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Episode Date: February 8, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
Starting point is 00:00:46 Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro, host of the hit podcast, Family Secrets. How would you feel if when you met your biological father for the first time, he didn't even say hello? And what if your past itself was a secret and the time had suddenly come to share that past with your child? These are just a few of the powerful and profound questions we'll be asking on our 11th season of Family Secrets.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Listen to season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show, Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence. And we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home workplace and social circle we're going to learn how to become better allies to each other so join us each saturday for civic cypher on the iheart radio app apple podcast
Starting point is 00:02:34 or wherever you get your podcast Breakfast Club. It's a very, very, very, very big movie. You guys are changing the entire scene. They've got cultural hip-hop. Well, y'all came a long way. They might not watch the news, but, you know, they're listening to The Breakfast Club. Who the GOAT? Let's go. DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, and Charlamagne Tha God. Y'all are like a mega force. Breakfast Club, that's how we get our days started.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Good morning, everybody. How y'all feel? I feel good. How are you? I am blessed black and highly favored. Good, good. Listen, only thing about these nails, right? This is a button-up shirt. So I was struggling. Yeah, Lose had to button it up for me. I ran across the street, shirt open. I was like, shoot, this is crazy. You had your top-tops out? Yeah. I mean, I'm out there right now. There's always somebody out there. It's New York City. Yeah, I mean, I had my coat on, but that's the only disadvantage about these nails is buttons, little buttons.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Well, Mel Robbins said you're actually a genius because people that use their nails comprehend better and take in information better. It helps them understand better. People that use their nails when they read, that's what it was. Absolutely. Thank you, Mel. Yes. Thank you. That's true.
Starting point is 00:04:03 That's what I've been saying all this time. Yeah. That's what you've been saying. I knew it. I knew that. I knew that. Well, this morning, little. Yes. Thank you. Fluky Mel Robbins. That's true. That's what I've been saying all this time. Yeah. You've been saying that? I knew it. I knew that. I knew that. Well, this morning, Little Brother will be joining us. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:04:10 The legendary Little Brother from North Carolina. Well, no. Poo's from Virginia. He's from Virginia. Poo's from Virginia. Yeah. But they have a documentary out called, I forgot the name of the documentary. May the Lord Watch the Little Brother Story.
Starting point is 00:04:22 There you go. I knew it was something with God. God watching over us. I said, the eyes are watching God. Something like that, yes. But it's on YouTube right now, so they'll be here to talk about it this morning. That's right. So we'll chop it up with them in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And let's get the show cracking. When we come back, we have Tizzlin' Trigger. We have front page news, so don't move. Jess Hilarious is here. This is, what, your fourth day? And you feeling good? Yes, my fourth day. I'm feeling good.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I'm looking good and everything. Oh. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, looking good and everything. Oh. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Morning, Tiz. Good morning, DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. Peace, Tiz. Let's start off with some quick sports. Now, Kyrie Irving was in Brooklyn last night, I believe. They were playing the Nets. And I guess he was going back and forth with some courtside fans. And he said the reason he left the
Starting point is 00:05:05 Brooklyn Nets, he said it was because of the New York vaccine requirements. So he said, just say, thank Mayor Adams for that, or I would still be in Brooklyn. Damn! Mayor Eric Adams getting the blame for everything. Everything right now. Jesus Christ! Everything right now. Alright, well, what's up, Tez? Let's jump right into it. We talking immigration?
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yes, once again, this is going to continue to be a hot topic. Yesterday, they officially voted against the border spending bill. Now, that border bill also included funding for Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. And again, the immigration package that they just keep debating over and cannot find some type of consensus. I want you to take a listen quickly to what's happening with the bill. We'll come back with more information. A procedural vote on a long-negotiated border security and foreign aid package has failed in the Senate.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yes, very interesting because this was a bipartisan agreement, but now the upper chamber is expected to hold a second vote that will consider only a narrower version of the legislation. Senators will consider a measure that excludes immigration enforcement provisions, the border security part of the legislation senators will consider a measure that excludes immigration enforcement provisions the border security part of the bill a growing number of republicans have expressed opposition to the deal in recent days now the 118 billion dollar package included 60 billion for ukraine 14 billion for israel and aid to tawon for the humanitarian assistance to gaza and 20 billion in measures to tackle the border crisis. And that's where the divide keeps me in how much, you know, goes overseas, how much goes here, and what do you do with that money with the border crisis here. So at the core of it, it is about, remember we talked about this a little bit yesterday on the migrant, the Title 42.
Starting point is 00:06:40 You know, Republicans are saying that whether you believe them or not, they're saying that they do not want the provisions of the uh 5 000 a day of migrants that are allowed to come over they want narrow uh they want narrow provisions on how to seek asylum um and so they just want something a little bit more tighter now to your point yesterday charlemagne you mentioned they will be against it either way um but this is know, what they're saying they have a problem with. How do you justify that when people in America are over here starving, when people are over here homeless? How do you expect Americans not to feel a way about seeing all of that money getting spent overseas? Are you playing in people's faces?
Starting point is 00:07:20 Bro, not even that. Think about it like this. They're spending, what, hundreds of millions of dollars for border control? And there ain't no control. So what are we spending this money on? We spend, you talking about what? They said, I'm looking right now, $496 million to fund 22,000 border patrol agents last year. And there is no control.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Like, we spending this money and people are still crossing the border. And then you'll read a story about America being in debt. People wonder why you can't get a student loans. Like I said, you see all of these homeless people in the street. You know, the public servants are underpaid, but they got all this money to send overseas. And you wonder why Americans are pissed off. You wonder why America first messaging is working. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And speaking of that, they will be voting today on since they couldn't come to some type of agreement on packaging it together the fund the foreign spending and the border today they'll be voting on a standalone bill on more money going overseas so we'll see how that vote turns out and again want to come kind of go back with some other information republicans are also saying the reason why they did not support this bill is because it increased the number of green cards extra funding for cities receiving migrants such as you know new york chicago um and then 650 million uh for the the border wall funding and 450 million for countries to take back uh the resettlement of illegal immigrants so there's just a lot going on i want i want you to listen quickly to what uh arizona christian seminar had to say. She's an independent.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Remember, she was a Democrat before, but now she's an independent. Take a listen. So if you want to spend the border crisis for your own political agendas, go right ahead. If you want to continue to use the southern border as a backdrop for your political campaign, that's fine. Good luck to you. But I have a very clear message for anyone using the southern border for staged political events. Don't come to Arizona. Take your political theater to Texas.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Do not bring it to my state. Because in Arizona, we're serious. We don't have time for your political games. We are not interested in you posing for the cameras in arizona we are busy that sounds good but all of y'all using the border for political purposes all of y'all playing uh with the border for political purposes both parties are trash especially christian center don't you think it's interesting that christian center out of all people because remember she stopped plenty with her and joe manchin so i thought that was interesting i want you to take a listen to the
Starting point is 00:09:47 other side though i want you to hear what florida republican senator rick scott said why he did not uh join in on this deal take a listen it was so simple what we wanted was a border bill we got an immigration bill and then chris murphy the senator that negotiated on the democrat side put out immediately after the bill the checks came, the border will never be closed. Wait a minute. That's what we wanted, the opposite. So it was a bill that we couldn't support. And fortunately, they didn't get cloture today. So now Schumer is going to try to do another bill that would just eliminate that. So what he wants to do is he wants to provide security money for Ukraine to secure their border, but not help us secure our border. I mean, I just think it makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Now, let me name the names because they're not named. They're just quickly on the Republicans who voted for the bill. So these are the Republicans that said, yes, we want to move forward. All Republicans voted against it, except these four. James Lanford out of Oklahoma. He's the one that created the bill. Susan Collins from Maine. Lisa McKersky from Alaska. And Mitt Romney from Utah.
Starting point is 00:10:51 But another point on the Charlemagne people are kind of skipping over is five Democrats joined Republicans in voting no. So these are the five Democrats that said no to the border crisis bill. Senator Elizabeth Warren out of Massachusetts. Ed Markey from massachusetts senator uh alice padilla from california bob menendez from new york uh and chuck schumer uh from new york as well um bernie sanders is against this as well but he did not vote no i thought he would vote no but he was not on the list for voting no but he said he will be damned this is quote he'll be damned if he'll if he will give
Starting point is 00:11:25 another nickel uh to the uh israeli government in order to continue to fund the war against palestine people so i'm gonna see where senator bernie sanders is going to stand on that today because they will be voting for foreign aid today when y'all gonna get some of them nickels to the american people man democrats are trash republicans are trash y'all all in this together i don't care about none of your politics i care about people where is the paper for the people that's who will always get my vote whoever provides the paper for the people of america where is the paper for the people all right that's a good campaign paper for people of america you got to be clear about that though they got people for everybody else but not americans it seems like all right well thank
Starting point is 00:12:03 you tess what we talking about next hour? Yeah, coming up, federal appeals court said that Donald Trump does not have immunity from his participation in the 2020 election. And if you have a lot of credit card debt, we have hit some historic numbers. You're not alone. I'm going to tell you why. Alright. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:12:20 If you need to vent, hit us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning, guys.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I'm Brian, man. Peace and blessings, man. Peace. I'm here. I need it, man. Get it off your chest. Yo, man. I was stuck in the elevator for a whole us, man. Peace. I'm here. I need it, man. Get it off your chest. Yo, man. Listen, man. I was stuck in the elevator for a whole hour, man.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And the main reason we're doing this, man, is to really wake up earlier, man. Because I felt like my life was over, man. I made so much promises to God in this elevator, man. Yo, look at my mother, man. Like, I'm going to wish her for my worst enemy, man. No windows. No escape. I'm thinking about Bruce Willis.
Starting point is 00:13:05 And Die Hard. Die Hard. I'm thinking about Bruce Willis. And Die Hard. I'm thinking, I'm pressing the buttons. I'm kicking, I'm trying to punch cones. I'm doing everything. I'm like, you know what,
Starting point is 00:13:13 let me pick. Yo, I ain't gonna lie. I had a little reception, but not too much. I was playing Marvin Sapp. Never would've made it. Damn.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Oh my God. Where were you? The only reason why I got out, the only reason why I got out, the only reason why I got out because of the Spams dude, he kept pressing the button downstairs and he kept kicking the door
Starting point is 00:13:30 and then all of a sudden it opened but it was a half of the floor and then it popped up and then I got out. And I just tell everybody right now, man, I don't know if I think I'm going to get elevated again.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I think it's a lawsuit. I don't know if it's a lawsuit but I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy because I got a daughter who has a very unhealthy fear of elevators. Oh, it's like the walls are closing in. Like, you just feel like...
Starting point is 00:13:49 I feel like I was in one of those Titanic submarines, man. That's the whole of the story. But anyway, but look. We're in the Bronx of Brooklyn. Bronx of Brooklyn. You know it's the Bronx, bro. Of course it's the Bronx. You know.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Come on, man. Everything broken in the Bronx. Damn. Everything's cleaning, man. Have a blessed day. I'm glad that you got out of that situation. Absolutely. I'm telling you, my eight-year-old is definitely afraid of elevators. I don't know what she watched that she saw somebody get stuck on an elevator,
Starting point is 00:14:14 but Lord have mercy. She don't mess with them elevators. She do not like elevators at all in no way, shape, or form. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Crystal from South Florida. Hey, Crystal, get it off your chest Yes, I woke up early this morning To tell you guys this
Starting point is 00:14:29 So, my nephew attends Bethune-Cookman College And he told me he's taking African American Studies And they have a white professor She just gave them a group project To do called Escape from the Plantation And she wants them to Pretend to from the plantation and she wants them to pretend to be a slave and she wants them to not know how to swim not know how to read and write
Starting point is 00:14:53 um how they would maneuver um trying to escape like the underground railroad she wants them to be like oh one of you try to be a slave and try to escape and get your foot cut off. And another one of you, I want you to be like a mom with a whole bunch of kids that's like illiterate. And I want one of you guys to be a house worker. Tell your son to tell the teacher that he want to be Nat Turner. OK, and they want to do a slave rebellion starting with her right then and there. OK, let's see how she want to do a slave rebellion, starting with her, right? Then and now. Jesus. Okay, let's see how she want to play that game.
Starting point is 00:15:27 They're like, they, some of the kids in his class, like, I guess they're green behind the ears. So they're like, oh my God, this sounds so cool. But with him, he's like, it doesn't sit right. And I'm like, what do y'all want to do about it? Because personally, me, I'm born in the 80s. I definitely would have went to the dean dean about that how old is he yeah he is 18 he's in college wow yeah oh i thought she said yeah he's in school yeah well you know
Starting point is 00:15:52 he's in college he's at bethune cookman college nat turn of slave rebellion okay 1831 that's what we need to take it back to okay stono rebellion charleston south carolina 1739 that's what we need to take it back to, okay? Stone-O Rebellion, Charleston, South Carolina, 1739. That's what we need to take it back to, okay? Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:16:14 The Breakfast Club. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed. It's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:16:29 We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning, this is Monique. How are you guys doing today? Monique, good morning. Get it off your chest. Well, first I want to congratulate Jess. Thank you, honey.
Starting point is 00:16:41 My second thing I need to know, Jess, did you get your candles from Moly Candle Company? I did not get my candles at all. Charlamagne Tha God, DJ Envy, what happened to the candles? From Moly Candle? Yup. I didn't see no candles. He's getting up out of his seat right now.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I guess he got it stashed. It's been a while now. It's definitely been a while. It's over there with his stuff. Charlamagne Tha God, he got it over there with his stuff. He looking through the stuff now. I ain't say this hers now. I just definitely been a while. It's over there with his stuff. He's looking through the stuff now. I didn't say it's hers now. I just said it might be. Some mold-lit candles?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Yup. It should be in a brown box. It says Jess Hilarious on it. For real? We should be stealing up here, man. We just be liking candles all the time. We just like whatever candle we get. We don't necessarily be checking. Who got the brown box that says Jess Hilarious on it?
Starting point is 00:17:24 I think we might have lit that one. It smelled good though, mama. Thank you. Don't worry, Jess. I'll send you some more since you're permanently there now. Thank you so much. And I will get it this time. Shout out your company, though. Molit Candle Company on Shopify. On Shopify.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yes, Molit Candles. Thank you, baby. You smoking this morning? That's weed? What you hitting on? I wish. I got a cold. I just came to Maine from Texas, so the weather is, yeah. Okay, okay. All right, Monique. Thank you, mama.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Hello, who's this? This is Israel. Israel. Look, I want to say this to you, man. If that man wanted to close that border, that border would have been closed. You know, when Joe Biden took office, he overturned every policy Donald Trump had on that border. Anything Trump liked, he disliked it. That's why we done lost four embassies.
Starting point is 00:18:14 We got the world on fire. And the migrants have been coming on here for three years, getting free debit cards, motel rooms, everything. And the black man over here sleeping on the bridges with our soldiers. And we've been voting for these Democrats for over 50 years. and we ain't got nothing about what the migrants got from them. So who's side you're really on? That's what getting it off your chest is for, my brother. Yeah, I'm just saying, you know, you know, the past, you know, they keep talking about Republicans, this and Republicans. It's not that. It's Joe Biden. We got a dementia president in there.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Nobody really don't know who's running the country. And everything the black man been crying for for the past 50 years, the migrants come over here and get it in three. We still run a tongue. You know, our kids graduate from school, don't have a fifth grade reading level or math. You know, they don't want private schools. You know, and now they just treat us like oh like an abuse like an abuser or something you know because they know we're gonna come back to them anyway they can't get my vote okay they can't get it this country is going to hell in a hit the whole world burning up
Starting point is 00:19:14 charlamagne the whole the whole world you don't have none of this going on with trump was president anybody said there was a line i'm gonna be honest with you. Trump trash too, though, bro. Republicans are trash. Democrats are trash. You know what I'm saying? I feel like they all are because of me. I'm not saying they trash, but you know what? I'd rather be trash and stay in my pocket.
Starting point is 00:19:37 You're not going to win my vote on being a user scare type. The only thing nobody can say is proper existential threat. Okay, you don't want to tell us that we can't have our gas stoves, no more. You don't want to tell us that we got to pull up in some latrine.
Starting point is 00:19:52 You don't want to tell us that we can't have our light bulbs, no more. You don't want Trump to do that. Joe Biden said all right. Joe Biden said you can't have gas stoves and light bulbs? That's why you got to get paid to be more objective with our report. Yeah, that's Joe Biden said you can't have gas stoves and light bulbs? That's why you got to get paid to be more objective with a report.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah, that's Joe Biden. God damn. He the one telling us that we got to get rid of, we got to get rid of that dishwasher. They the ones doing that. Now, that's funny. Now, I don't think any of this is true. I'm going to put my foot down now.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I don't think any of this is true, but God damn, that's I don't think any of this is true, but goddamn, that's funny. You said Joe Biden want to get rid of gas stoves, dishwashers, and what else? Light bulbs? You got to get LED light bulbs. Light bulbs cost $8,000. Now, sir, I just Googled it. It said, Biden administration, the rule that sought to make dishwashers and laundry machines more efficient. It ain't say get rid of them.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Hey, hey, hey, hey, Andy, you work on houses, right? Yes, sir. The best dishwasher is the one that was made like 10 years ago. Do dishwasher come out? It takes 24 hours just to go through one cycle. And it still don't be clean.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And that's your life, bro. You know, just like you tell the politicians to stay at the women's bedroom, stay at my house. Let me have this question. I won't. Now, they all... You know, I'm going to say this one more thing. I'm going to let it go. Everything them little rat, everything them rat Democrats be saying, it's the opposite.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Like, they call abortion reproductive health. What are are you reproducing you're not reproducing nothing he does want to get some some light bulbs he do want to get rid of though the man ain't lying man i don't know what hey man some of the light bulb i don't know where y'all get y'all information from i just only thing i agree with is that i understand how he is upset that he sees all of this money going to uh other places and people in amer America are starving and homeless. Everything else, I don't know nothing about. It says,
Starting point is 00:21:50 the Biden administration put the final nail in the coffin for, what is it, incandescent light bulbs? What kind of light bulbs are those? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:58 But yeah, so he's right. He want to get rid of some of the light bulbs. He wants the dishwasher to be more efficient. Man, shut up, man. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:22:04 You got a fact check. I got a yeah, you got a fact. I see him. Fact efficient. Man, shut up, man. That's what he said. You got a fact check. I got a, yeah, you got a fact. I see him. Fact check says you got a fact check him. That's right. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:22:13 800-585-1051. We got, uh, just with the best coming up. Yes, we do. We're talking about Monique. On Club Shay Shay? On Club Shay Shay. On Shay Shay out here.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Smoke. Ain't he? We'll get to that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed?
Starting point is 00:22:30 A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe my country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a racket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh, my God. What is that?
Starting point is 00:23:08 Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:06 follow and admire join me every week for post run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to post run high on the I heart radio app Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth,
Starting point is 00:25:07 gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, I'm Dr. Maya Shankar, a cognitive scientist who studies human behavior. On my podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, I marry science and storytelling to better understand how to navigate the big changes in our lives. It was like a slow nightmare, you know, because every day you think, oh, surely tomorrow I'll be better. And I would dream of being better. At night, I would dream that my face was quote unquote normal or back to the way it was.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And I'd wake up and there'd be no change. I also speak with scientists about how we can be more resilient in the face of change. You can think of the adolescent brain as like the social R&D engine of our culture, that they're something that looks like risky and idiotic to us is maybe their way of creatively trying to solve the problem of having social success and fewer of the things that bring you social failure. Listen to A Slight Change of Plans on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Whether you're black, Asian, white, Latinx, indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic accountable and equitable america you are all our brothers and sisters and we're inviting you to join us for civic cypher each and every saturday with myself ramses jaw q ward and some of the greatest minds in america listen to civic cypher every saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:28 The Breakfast Club. All right, morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to Jess with the mess. Hey! News is real. News is real.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Jess Hilarious, Jessica Robin Moore, Jess don't do no lie. Jess is gonna bring numbers. Jess with the mess. News is real. On The, Jessica Robin Moore, Jess don't do no lying. Jess is going to bring numbers. Jess with the message. And this is real. On The Breakfast Club. I know they know the difference. Superstar.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Monique on Club Shea Shea. So, as we all know, Monique sat down with Shannon Sharp on Club Shea Shea. Club Shea Shea, let's give him a big shout out because that couch, man. Club Shea Shea is smoking 2024. Yes. Drop on the clue sponsor as soon as you said monique's name he started lighting the stage i know i see him and then maybe he should okay i'm like this is palo santo i'm like palo santo just because okay
Starting point is 00:28:14 you need to go sit on channing's couch and be starting mess for no reason pause look the interview was two hours and 55 minutes these comedians be having a lot to say. I think it's interesting. The first thing I noticed that she called out the Breakfast Club before I got here. And we have audio. What did she say? What did she say? We were able to do the special and we appreciated them saying, listen, how can we work this out?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Now, you know what happens with that? People were having call-ins when I said, this is not right. I was donkey of the day. Remember that? I was donkey of the day. Remember that? I was donkey of the day. The breakfast nubs called me the donkey of the day. That's what they said.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And they had a whole call-in about how I was donkey of the day. But you didn't do the same thing when you found out we settled. Now all of a sudden, nobody knows what a settlement is. It was really, really quick. We just won't throw it away. So with that Netflix special, it was just like no guys i gotta i gotta stand out that is not we gave monique big love when the netflix happened absolutely and i said you know what that's why i
Starting point is 00:29:16 need to mind my damn business okay when it comes to other people's business so you did say that yes okay because i just wanted to absolutely because i wasn't here no you're not part of the breakfast nubs yeah i'm not a breakfast nub at all so i just wanted to make sure hey we need that image and taylor get that you already know what to do um and then monique on dl higley obviously we know they had some static before but we also have audio she also talked about him as well i do dl's radio show yes DL Hughley is not there. His team is there. And Shannon, we having a great time. When we get to the end of the show, they say, Monique, you want to play a game? Well, I want to play. I said, sure, sugar. And it's a game called Would You Rather. Okay. They said, Monique, we want to play a game of Would You Rather. Would you rather your husband
Starting point is 00:30:01 sleep with Lee Daniels with a condom or Corinne Steffens without one? So I said, I'm going to call my brother. I called DL Hughley on the phone. I say, Hey baby. Yeah. That's how he responds. I said, listen, I just got off the phone with your team and they wanted to play this game. Would you rather ask me about my husband and Lee Daniels and Karen Stephens and his exact words Well, that's how we do it. That's a great would you rather though? You are into the coach and you know about certain things Would you rather have sex with Lee Daniels without a condom you think that's a word that you really do? With your body say that's that's a good would you rather? You can sit there with your bald head and say that's a good would you rather. That's why he's like the pilot doctor.
Starting point is 00:30:46 So what do they get at? What would you rather? Would you rather have sex with Lee Daniels without a condom or have sex with? No, no. Would you rather have sex with Lee Daniels with a condom or with one? That's a good would you rather. All right. So what would you rather do?
Starting point is 00:31:00 Neither. All right. So if somebody asked your wife that, what would she say? She would say neither. We you we know how she exactly i'm just thinking about the game would you rather it's a good game that's a good question for the game but what are you getting at that's her thing like what what are we getting at y'all trying to say my husband is yeah i understand why monique feel away okay i'm just saying that's a good would you rather and are we calling out lee daniels for sexuality like you know what i'm saying? So she didn't like that. But it was interesting to see.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I don't think Lee Daniels need to be called out. He's out. Oh, yeah, he is. Shut up. Oh, he out here. Lee Daniels? I didn't know that. Yeah, Lee.
Starting point is 00:31:33 He out here. Big, big. See, I don't be in people's business like you. I didn't know that he was out like that. I don't know. I ain't seen him in a minute. Okay, Lee. Did you know I ain't seen nothing about him?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Daniels been waving that flag. Okay, I know that's why. He better keep. He better wave it then't seen nothing about that? He was big waving that flag. What you talking about? He better keep. He better wave it then. All right, that's what's up. Now, it was interesting to see how quick D.L. Hughley jumped online. I think he responded before the interview was over. And this is what he said.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Every time I see Monique these days, she's on uh doing some greasy ass video with her and her daddy complaining about something or working out i don't know nobody to work out that much in game weight unless every crunch you do has got captain in front of it but apparently she goes on club and tells the story about how she came on my radio show and i wasn't there at the time my co-host jasmine sanders played a game that we played all the time with everybody called would you rather she apparently was so offended by that that she says she got off. She called me. Monique did.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And she said I was very dismissive. Like, huh? Monique's a liar. When Monique did call me, I heard her complaints. I listened to her and I pulled the segment. So if I hadn't been as dismissive as she alleges I was, that segment would have aired. It didn't because I respected her wishes. And so what he didn't say was she had also told Shannon Sharp that he was sent a cease and desist because how he handled it,
Starting point is 00:32:53 how he felt, I mean, how she felt like he dismissed her. So when he was sent the cease and desist, no, it didn't air. It was immediately sent after she talked to him. You can send a cease and desist for an interview? That you do? I have no idea. You can send a cease and desist to anybody. But if you do an actual interview,. You can send a cease and desist for an interview? That you do? I have no idea. You can send a cease and desist to anybody. But if you do an actual interview, how do you send a cease and desist and say you're not played if you actually did the interview?
Starting point is 00:33:12 I don't know. You have to ask Monique. Okay. What was you about to say? I was about to say Monique is a grown woman. These are the way we do things. You know what I'm saying? She also spoke on some things about how we know how taraji just uh during the press run spoke on
Starting point is 00:33:25 how unfaithful that she was treated and um she had uh hinted at when taraji had said that their trailers were infested before you know everything was made better for the cast of color purple and um monique had spoke on their trailers blowing up play number five remember how taraji said the trailers were infested yes our trailers blew up now what i whenever this airs i'm gonna post the trailers blowing up so the people can see right but they blew up and if any of us were in those trailers we would have been gone when i was smelling the gas we went to the brothers that was hooking up the trailers and we said hey we smell gas they said mo we let him know talking about the head in charge we let him know he just said okay and walked away did will pecker
Starting point is 00:34:12 reach out to anybody i can't say he didn't reach out to me and say hey is everything okay did you lose anything is everything good the only thing they wanted to know from me was remember how to where was aunt may's wigs? Huh? Where are those wigs? They was only worried about the wig. And thank God nobody was in those trailers. Lord have mercy.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And she actually did post a video. She took to our Instagram and she posted the video. So she actually does have receipts for that. And it's honestly mind-blowing to see, yeah, their trailers did blow up. It wasn't only hers it was a couple of them she spoke on we got a
Starting point is 00:34:48 oh we did yeah yeah cause ain't nobody do that cause you know I'm gonna keep on coming I was listening it was good I was paying no attention
Starting point is 00:34:55 club shea shea is smoking I don't know what's true and what's not true everybody got a story but they telling them on club station absolutely and there has been
Starting point is 00:35:02 no mess like comedian mess all year Meg and Nikki don't got nothing on the comedians nothing all year. Meg and Nikki don't got nothing on the comedians. Nothing. Ice Spice and Lotto don't got nothing
Starting point is 00:35:08 on the comedians. Nothing. That's not even a beef. Ice Spice and Lotto, that's not no beef. That's not like Dunkin' Donuts versus Starbucks Donuts.
Starting point is 00:35:15 A lot of ice spice. Jesus. All right. Thank you for Jess with the mess. When we come back, we got front page news. Teslin Figaro
Starting point is 00:35:21 will be joining us and then the group from North Carolina, Little Brother, they'll be joining us. It's the Breakfast Club North Carolina, Little Brother. They'll be joining us. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. What up, Tez? What's going on, DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. Hey, Tez. What up, Tez?
Starting point is 00:35:40 Y'all want to jump right into Donald Trump? Yeah, let's jump right into Donald Trump. As you... God damn, Envy. You love him that much? You worse than Tim Scott. Pause. is y'all want to jump right into donald trump yeah let's jump right into donald trump as you you love him that much you worked in tim scott donald trump has been fighting for immunity about his involvement in trying to overturn the election i know it's hard to keep up because it's a lot of different cases but this is the case where they said he interfered and the federal courts made a decision take a listen a federal appeals court on tuesday unanimously rejected rejected Donald Trump's claim
Starting point is 00:36:07 he's immune from criminal charges that he plotted to overturn his 2020 election defeat. The ruling is a rebuke to the former president, who is once again seeking the White House as he fends off numerous criminal cases. Today, an indictment was unsealed charging Donald J. Trump with conspiring to defraud the United States, conspiring to disenfranchise voters, and conspiring and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding. The election subversion case landed before the three-judge appeals panel after Trump was criminally charged by special counsel Jack Smith with a number of illegal schemes to try and stay in power after losing at the polls.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Now he has until Monday to ask the Supreme Court to block this federal ruling. You can pretty much anticipate that he'll try to continue to fight it. But if it is not blocked, the trial will move forward. We don't know a date on that. But Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, she said that the National Guard was at the Capitol the day of Biden's inauguration. And she's wondering why the media didn't call that an insurrection. Take a listen. And then the American people who pay for elections with their tax dollars
Starting point is 00:37:12 actually own the elections and have the right to care about their elections, election integrity, and the results of their elections. When they came to Washington and protested. All of you called it an insurrection. And then when Joe Biden was inaugurated and this entire Capitol complex was surrounded with 30,000 National Guard troops, none of you stood there and called that an insurrection. Oh, no. You all stayed silent.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary, but I'm pretty sure the National Guard was there because of what happened on January 6th. If there was an attempted coup of this country on January 6th, I'm sure that they would have heightened security during the inauguration. That would only make sense to me. Yep. And they tend to have security, you know, during the inauguration. But she wants to know why you didn't call it insurrection,lemagne you know because the national guard was right because it wasn't an insurrection that's pretty much the reason for that but i thought that was interesting um just give you some more information on what happens next so again he has until monday to fight this in the supreme court but today uh they will there will be another ruling. The Supreme Court will decide if he stays on the ballot in Colorado for his participation in the insurrection.
Starting point is 00:38:30 So this is going to be a big deal if they decide that he gets off the ballot or on the ballot. Of course, there will be a domino effect. So that will be really, really something to watch today. And I'm going to give you an update on that tomorrow. I got a question for you guys, though. I was going to cover this tomorrow, but I want to ask, you know, we talked about the border in the six o'clock hour. We talked about how, you know, Democrats, we talk about all the time
Starting point is 00:38:50 how they don't do messaging. There was a story that came out that said President Biden will not be speaking before the Super Bowl. He said that people are just tuned out of politics. They don't want to turn anybody off.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Do y'all think he should take that opportunity to do the traditional interview? He skipped it last year. Do you think he should take that opportunity to speak to the 160 million plus people or no? What do you guys think? I think he should take every opportunity to be in anybody's face to make sure that, you know, he's selling himself right now. This is election teaser.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Why wouldn't you do it? I mean, you see Donald Trump at all these college games. Anywhere Donald Trump could be, he's going to be. He might be at the Super Bowl. It's just Donald Trump knows how to play the game. And it's always impactful when Donald Trump speaks. I don't think Biden knows how to. But it's not when Biden speaks.
Starting point is 00:39:31 President Biden sucks, okay? So he needs to hide, all right? He don't need to hide. You're saying don't do it. Don't even take the chance that maybe 20 people. The less we see him, the better. And if he's not going to hide, if he is going to do something like the Super Bowl, do it with his vice president.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Do it with Kamala Harris. You know what I'm saying? Let Kamala Harris do a lot of the talking. I don't know why they got Kamala Harris in the tux. She can be charismatic if she chooses to be. If they let her go, let her go. But if you're going to do something like that, she should be sitting beside him doing a majority of the talking.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Let me ask you a question. Let's say he got a suite at the Super Bowl, right? Wouldn't that just show he's there? And then I would just walk into Taylor Swift's suite, take a picture with her. Now it would look like Taylor Swift is promoting me, right? There you go. She look like she endorsing me. He's inconveniencing too much of the American people by doing something like that.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Showing up to the Super Bowl. Super Bowls are, it's like, how many, 80,000 plus people? Like, it's too much. They got to do Secret Service. They got to do different type of suites. They got to do different types of suites in the building. Like, no. Nobody's going to care about him much. They got to do secret service. They got to do different type of sweeps of the building. Like, no. Nobody going to care about him anymore.
Starting point is 00:40:27 They're going to care more about Taylor Swift. No, it's just the... Nobody going to care about him. Who are they going to care about more? Taylor Swift. See? But it's just the inconvenience he would cause at an event
Starting point is 00:40:35 that's already causing so much inconvenience. Yeah. You know what? It takes a lot for a president to show up places, yo. Don't do that. You might want to see us. I'm kind of torn on this, though, Sean.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I hear what you're saying. Like, he's not the best interviewer, but kind to dj amy's point like i think people are already turned off on politics they've all they've already turned off to not use you know 15 minutes before the interview you know before the super 160 million people to at least if nothing else say hey you know republicans have stopped the border or you know shouldn't you take a chance maybe to convince 20 people and they say i would do it but i would do i would do it with the vice president i would do it with kamala kamala would be sitting right by me and kamala would be doing majority of the talking that's that's what i would do yeah they're saying oh this is not a part of our big master plan well
Starting point is 00:41:14 what's the master plan then with the with the messaging because we don't see it anywhere so i just thought that was interesting i wanted to point that out to you guys i think you should go swag sir for taylor swift that's what i think he should do. He'll bring it back. Yes. Oh, gosh. Well, another report I want to tell you guys quickly about credit card debt is at a staggering $1.13 trillion. Now, according to a new report on household debt from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Americans now collectively are, again, $1.13 trillion in their credit card debts. They said that it increased by $50 billion, or roughly 5% in the fourth quarter of 2023.
Starting point is 00:41:47 The delinquency rates are really high. They said this is among younger millennials, borrowers between the age of 30 and 39, who are burdened by high levels of student loan debt. So they said this is a big deal. The debt keeps rising. Mark Schultz from LendingTree said that even though $1 trillion in credit card debt is staggering, wrap your brain around the unfortunate truth that's going to keep rising from here. So the Americans are still struggling with lingering inflation and rising interest rates and is forcing them to have to live on their credit cards.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Yeah, which sucks because credit card interest rates go anywhere from, what, 16 to 27 percent when it comes to borrowing those people's money. Like you said, with people not having jobs and all their jobs not being able to pay for their food, their rent, their car note, you got to use credit cards. You got to use credit cards to pay for clothes. And even though public school is free, you still got to put your kids in clothes. You still got to have food for your kids.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And the credit card business is going to make a lot of money off of it because with those interest rates at 22%, Jesus Christ, even if you paid a minimum of $ or 50 or 100 a majority that is going to interest that's right well that's your news well thank you tears thank you make sure you uh follow at tesla figaro on all social media platforms subscribe to her podcast it's great shot no chase a podcast on the black effect i heart radio podcast network i noticed that you say subscribe with a V. And I didn't know Lisp did that.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Oh, really? It's subscribe. For real? There's no V's in there. Okay. Yeah, you be saying subscribe real, real clear. How many W's in you, Jess? How many W's in you?
Starting point is 00:43:17 Ain't no W's in you. How many W's in boo? All right, whatever. Just take the criticism. Flu. All right. I love y take the criticism. Flu. All right. I love y'all. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:43:28 All right, when we come back, Little Brother will be joining us. They are underground legends from North Carolina. One member is from Virginia. Who are the members? Dante, Poo, and 9th Wonder. Ain't nobody named no goddamn Dante, man.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It's Fante and Big Poo. Fante and Big Poo. And 9th Wonder. Man, you so disrespectful to the down south rappers. Why man. It's Fante and Big Pooh. I was going to say Big Pooh. And Night Wonder. Man, you're so disrespectful to down south rappers. Why? It's Big Fante and Pooh, man. How about Dante? Night Wonder wasn't here.
Starting point is 00:43:53 You were going to say Night Wonder. He wasn't here. But we'll kick it with the neck. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Damn, man. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:44:04 It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. Yes, indeed. We got Little Brother here. Absolutely. Bonte and Big Pooh. How y'all brothers feeling, man?
Starting point is 00:44:15 Good, man. We alive. That's all you can ask for nowadays, right? That's it. Wake up. That's it. Thankful, thankful. They got the new documentary, a Lord Watch The Little Brothers Story
Starting point is 00:44:25 Why that title? I mean first We started this When we were making The album Made a Lord Watch 2018 2018 So this was kind of like
Starting point is 00:44:34 To bring Into that era And it just made sense Yeah it just really made sense Like thinking about Everything that we kind of Went through and survived The Lord had to be
Starting point is 00:44:44 Watching over us Yeah There was no other F next relation yeah i mean so uh nah man that was just kind of felt this felt like a conclusion of that chapter and um yeah five years in the making man so it's out now on youtube so you got to college and you guys met each other so talk about that process how you guys met i know a lot of this is actually definitely in the documentary but how you guys met and what attracted you guys together and then you started this rap group that became underground legends man it was uh it was very organic uh I met Pooh well first I met uh 9th we met uh I think I met we met first 98 I was like yeah we met like yeah 98 yeah um so yeah we met in 98. Yeah, 98. Yeah. So, yeah, we met through a mutual friend. 9th was on campus, and we was moving in the dorm.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Like, we saw each other just in the dorm. And over Source Magazine, we started chopping it up. All this is in the doc. But long story short, we basically just kind of started, you know, working together. This was at a time when, you know, it was at the time, this is like 98. So, this is when No Limit is like killing everything. In the South especially, yep. Yeah, so HBCU, No Limit, and like the Ghetto D album dropped my freshman year. That was all you heard in every room.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Like we was bumping that nonstop. Nobody made crack like this. Listen, what? Yo, Ghetto Dope. Listen, man, we ran Ghetto Dope. So everybody was pumping that so if you were a kid that was into like raucous or soundbomb like you know meeting someone else that was into that that was kind of rare you know i mean so when you met somebody that was on that same wavelength it's
Starting point is 00:46:16 like oh i found my people so we just kind of linked up and just started making records and people out there when he said ruckus ruckus record you got to tell them because something you gotta know because ruckus doesn't exist yeah because this was the label that you know uh i would say miracle miracle spiritual that type of thing he can't help it they said ruckus somebody might not know what ruckus it was you know it was very much they like, it was an underground label, but it was, you know, I mean, most, uh, quality, um, you know, barrel much, barrel much. It was like pretty much. Eminem was on Rockets Soundbomber.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Yeah, he was on Soundbomber. Yeah. So, um, so they were just, you know, putting out amazing stuff that we really enjoyed. And so, um, we just kind of started making records, put some stuff up on the internet and, uh, yeah, we had a record deal. And that's what your sound is like today? enjoyed and so um we just kind of started making records put some stuff up on the internet and uh yeah we had a record which is sound is like today but i don't know how would you describe your sound today like now it's not the same it's not the same but it's still us it's still us it's weird it's like it our our sound has evolved musically but it still sounds like little
Starting point is 00:47:22 brother yeah like one of i had um after our last album came out uh maylo watch and then we just put out two singles last october october uh with uh wish me well and glory glory september september september my bad and uh one of the biggest compliments we got was that somebody said yo i can make a lb playlist from y'all stuff 20 years ago. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.
Starting point is 00:47:56 There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana Craigman country, my forefathers did that themselves.
Starting point is 00:48:14 What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. Bullets. We need help!
Starting point is 00:48:28 We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. you get your podcasts. Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise
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Starting point is 00:49:32 It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her
Starting point is 00:50:22 wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist who studies human behavior. On my podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, I marry science and storytelling to better understand how to navigate the big changes in our lives. It was like a slow nightmare, you know, because every day you think, oh, surely tomorrow
Starting point is 00:51:06 I'll be better. And I would dream of being better. At night I would dream that my face was quote-unquote normal or back to the way it was. And I'd wake up and there'd be no change. I also speak with scientists about how we can be more resilient in the face of change. You can think of the adolescent
Starting point is 00:51:22 brain as like the social R&D engine of our culture, that they're something that looks like risky and idiotic to us is maybe their way of creatively trying to solve the problem of having social success and fewer of the things that bring you social failure. Listen to A Slight Change of Plans on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is, not everything is a mess.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like J-Lo on her third divorce. Living. Girls' trip to Miami. Mess. Ozempic. Messy, skinny living. Restaurant stealing a birthday cake.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Mess. Wait, what flavor was the cake, though? Okay, that's a good question. Hooking up with someone in accounting and then getting a promotion. Living. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living. It's kind of mess Well, you get it
Starting point is 00:52:28 Got it? Live, love, mess Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin On iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts Or wherever you get your podcasts So now, and it sounds like y'all haven't missed the beat I can't tell that it's dated It doesn't sound It it still sounds timeless.
Starting point is 00:52:47 And that was something I think we always strive for. So that's, if I had to describe it, I would just say it's timeless. But you guys also came out in an era where the DJ and the producer was part of the group, right? Yeah, yeah. Whether it was, of course, Run DMC, JMSJ, Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff, Salt Pepper Spinderella. I didn't even know that. Gangsta. I didn't even know that. But Gangsta. But Gangsta. Gangsta. GK. GK. Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jaff, Salt Pepper Spinderella, Gangstar, Gangstar,
Starting point is 00:53:07 Gangstar, GK. And 9th Wonder was part of Little Brother in the beginning. He's not here now, so what's the relationship with 9th Wonder? Is there no more relationship? There's no more relationship, but there's no... I mean, we talk about it in the doc, but no,
Starting point is 00:53:22 we're just separate entities, you know what I'm saying? We came in the game together, but we're Little Brother, he's 9th Wonder mean, we talk about it in the doc, but no, we're just separate entities. You know what I'm saying? We came in the game together, but we're a little brother. He's Night Wonder. And we're just a separate entity that we coexist peacefully. You know what I mean? And that's just what it is. Why didn't you participate in the doc though? Because, I mean, this is the little brother's story.
Starting point is 00:53:37 That's a question for him. Yeah. The story is told, you know, but I would like to have heard his perspective of it now as well. Did y'all reach out to him? We asked. Absolutely, yeah. We reached out, you know what I'm saying? Made it clear that, you know, it wasn't this wasn't going to be a hit piece. We wasn't coming for nobody next, you know. We're just telling our
Starting point is 00:53:54 story in just a beautiful, honest way. And he just shows not to participate, and that's his right to. I feel like y'all set him up nice, especially when you first told the early story about I forgot what album it was, but it was an album, I think it was Afu Ra. Afu Ra. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:06 That got produced by DJ Premier, and he was like, yo, that's what I want to be. And one of y'all encouraged him, like, yo, you can be that. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:54:13 We were always, I mean, we coming up. I mean, you got to keep in mind, like, dude, we like 19, 20 years old. You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, we, you know, we're just trying to figure out, let alone trying to figure out how to be artists.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Trying to figure out how to be men. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, so, you know, we're just trying to figure out, let alone trying to figure out how to be artists. Trying to figure out how to be men. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, so, you know, trying to figure out all that stuff at the same time. I mean, man, it's, you know, it's tough. So, but yeah, but we tried to tell the story just as honestly as we could. But, you know, we can't speak for another person. We can only tell our experience.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And so he chose not to, and that's his right. You see evolution in it. I mean, you see dark-skinned Leonard in there. Absolutely. You see Leonard with a hairline. When I see the interview,
Starting point is 00:54:52 I'm like, that sound like something, but that man got hair. He was showing everybody. He was like, look, I was like, oh my God, he look like one of the kids
Starting point is 00:54:58 from Lean on Me. Oh, wow. Crazy. Mr. Club, Mr. Club, some kid with a hair. You said what? What year was that? 2002 or 2003? Nah, that was Mystery Show. Wow. Mr. Club. Mr. Club. I can't write. What year was that? 2002, 2003? Nah, that was Mystery Show.
Starting point is 00:55:09 That was 2005. 2005. Yeah. It was 2005. Because I remember that was 2005. That was the only... We talked about it briefly on QLS. But yeah, that was the only interview that I missed.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Because when we had to do that, that run... I think your son... Yeah, that was when my son was born. Yeah, his son was born. So it was just me and Knife on that run every time i see that i think about it because i wasn't as polished as i am now they're doing interviews none of us were i was like i was like i was struggling why was he on bt i don't know. I don't work there. You trying to dance around? I ain't dancing around.
Starting point is 00:55:45 I said I ain't work there. I said, raw ass caroling. That's what it was. That's what it was. Nah, that was funny. That was a blast from the past.
Starting point is 00:55:54 That was 05. Yeah, it was 05. Nah, it was 05. So when 9th Wonder got the call from Hove to work with him and Hove started doing production,
Starting point is 00:56:02 do you think that production area kind of dismantled the group a lot absolutely not nah nah man like we we we was happy we was excited for him you know i mean like we got to go to baseline and hear it before it came out sitting there with hove and all that but nah we was we knew it that's a big opportunity it's jay-z you know i mean like come on yeah man you want stuff for your team like you want you know if you you know studying hip-hop most of the big producers they get their starting groups so we just saw it's just a natural progression you know I mean so yeah it was amazing just to know that you know one of your homies can make a beat on his laptop and it ends up with Jay-Z
Starting point is 00:56:40 rapping over I mean it was like oh my like what you know i'm saying and it really it really for us was um for me it was a sign of the kind of the changing of the guard in terms of what constituted studio quality you know because for a long time you know you had to have when people thought of a studio they thought of it as like okay it's this big the big boards and like these big you know big consoles and big speakers and everything i guess the the lesson for me was just that you know as long as you have a taste there are no really no rules in music you just have to have a degree of taste that can translate to an audience and if you can make it make sense to them and they get it and that's really all you need and uh we were able to do that with very limited means and so
Starting point is 00:57:24 i'm just uh I'm just thankful. All right, we got more with Lil Bruv-a when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:57:35 We're still kicking it with Lil Bruv-a. Charlamagne? Why you two? That was the other thing I was wondering. Did y'all even try to shop into Hulu or Netflix? Bruh, the writers of Stranger Things were on strike nah I mean
Starting point is 00:57:49 and Lovecraft Country's on Tubi absolutely oh my god for real today I love Tubi I love Tubi too you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:57:56 I did a Showtime at the Apollo Marathon the other night like straight out of Compton on Tubi yeah nah I think for us cause people always
Starting point is 00:58:04 ask that question right and first to start off as a joke on YouTube but then we start thinking about it like that's exactly that's where it's going like I know seven-year-olds who stay on YouTube I know 69 year olds who stay on YouTube so for us it was just like all it is on the internet it's's all the same. It all looks up to the same Internet. So the objective here was I was talking to a homie of mine. I was just like, you know, he's like, yo, I got this project. I don't know what I should do.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I said, listen, what's your objective? Are you trying to be validated by one of these companies? Are you looking for the bag or do you want people to see that? We wanted people to see our documentary. So the easiest way is you get anybody can go up on YouTube. You can watch. You don't got to see it? We wanted people to see our documentary. So the easiest way is anybody can go up on YouTube. You can watch it. You don't got to watch it in one sitting.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I ain't got to explain to my mama how to log into YouTube. At all. Everybody knows how to go on YouTube. You can watch it on the phone. It's on TVs. It's on the laptop. Anywhere.
Starting point is 00:58:59 It just felt true to who we were and who we are. And so that was why we decided to go YouTube. What would have made your brother bigger, though, right? Because a lot of the fans, a lot of the people that listen might not have heard Little Brother, right? What do you think would have made Little Brother bigger? I don't know if it was in the cards for us to be bigger, honestly.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I think we are. Yeah, we was the lead blockers. You know what I mean? We was sent to take out the linebacker. It wasn't necessarily, you're not going get the glory you're not gonna get the touchdown you're not gonna you gotta do your job do your job well and you'll be remembered rewarded honored for that you know i mean respected for that and so yeah i don't i don't know if bigger was in the cars for us honestly because i know who we are you know what i mean right you know and i know
Starting point is 00:59:46 who we are is i don't know if that's conducive nah it wasn't like i remember having i remember uh minstrel show came out and we did uh i think what was the first week it was like 18 18 something like that you know i mean 18 000 records and you know back then that was just that was the worst you got a weed plate. Yeah, straight up. But you sell 18,000 now. But it's a phenomenal album. Yeah. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I saw Donald Glover say recently that all new, most new rappers now, and I think he kind of meant like that generation that started in 2010. Yeah, yeah. Were because of Kanye. I would say Kanye and Lil Brother. Absolutely. That's what I would say. Absolutely. Yeah, man kanye was uh we had um god kanye he first came to durham 2004 three four yeah it was before college dropout though yeah and um he had at the time the records that was
Starting point is 01:00:38 bubbling he had the um stand up by ludicrous that was out and he was about to put out the this way record he did with dilated peoples but he was in durham doing some kind of like conference or whatever and so he was there and you know this is before anything like he's just you know chilling and he just would walk around just like rapping out of nowhere yo yo fine conge and fonte is like like he would just be rapping like bro but and i thought he was you you know, acting, you know what I mean? But now, you know, 20 plus years later, it's clear. I'm like, yeah, that wasn't an actor.
Starting point is 01:01:12 He's the same. His acting is on a different level. It's just on a higher platform. Exactly. But he's the same. He's always been. But yeah, but back then we, you know, we did shows, you know, we toured with him. You know, we opened up and everything.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Yeah, man. It was a, it was a it was a fun time you know i mean you know you could kind of see just him putting the pieces together and you could see him also really kind of struggling with fame to some degree like i remember we were at um on the billboard hip-hop awards hip-hop boys yeah we were in like south v he was in miami for like a weekend whatever and he had his rockefeller chain and he will we was going to a club we were going to club and he would take his chain out and you know have his chain out in the club but then the minute we left he would tuck it back in and that was just something that i always
Starting point is 01:02:00 saw you know when you uh speak you know you, you know, why weren't we bigger? I think one of the things, well, first of all, it was a choice. It definitely was a choice. And that was something that we really want to make clear in the documentary that the little brother story is not a sad story at all. You know what I'm saying? You know, it was really, you know, choices that we made. And I think for me, I kind of had my you know ghost of christmas past present scrooge kind of thing and that i saw a lot of these guys when they were kind of on the come up and was able to kind of see what fame i don't know if they did to him yeah it did to him or and i just you know like they were just you know prisoners or something but to see the effect that
Starting point is 01:02:43 had on their lives and how they had to really live it wasn't just yeah you know everyone wants the money everyone wants that but that ain't all it come with was tucking your chain in you know being scared of fame was just not wanting to get robbed well i mean it was probably a little bit a little bold but it was very but it was real like he wasn't an image that you have to have in certain places exactly when you leave it's over he back regular. It's over. He back regular. And because, I mean, because when we was, when he was like kicking it with us, I mean, we just.
Starting point is 01:03:09 We just kicked it. Yeah, we just kicking it. But when the camera's on, he knew how to become Kanye. I gotta, I gotta be me. A different way. Much more amplified. A different way. Yeah, amplified version of who I am without the lights and the camera.
Starting point is 01:03:24 So little brother wasn't willing to perform, basically. Nah. Nah, man. Because that's not, you know, this is a long game. First of all, that shit's exhausting, fam. And unsustainable. Very unsustainable. You burn out quick.
Starting point is 01:03:37 But y'all have always shown y'all humor, especially in videos. But that's who we are. Yeah. Naturally. Who I am in this interview is who I am when this interview is over is who I am when I get on this plane to go home is who I am when I get home. Like, I am who I am. And it's not. Well, I talk to people when the lights come on.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I don't really talk to people when the lights go off. That's the difference. I don't like people. That's the difference. Why would you be in the dark room with strangers? That, that, that. Not the conversation we're having. Not the conversation we're having.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Not the conversation we're having. Not a back out. Not the conversation we're here for. Nah, man. I mean, we just, you know, I just saw like when I looked at a lot of the people that, you know, I looked up to in the game and looked at the people that were able to have that longevity. That was something that was always important to me you know i'm saying really being able to stand the test of time and be in the game and you know this is a game where with music and
Starting point is 01:04:33 just entertainment just art in general i really do believe that it's a game that the longer you play the luckier you get you know i'm saying the longer you stay in it but you're only going to stay in it for a long time if you're doing things that you enjoy. You know what I mean? You otherwise, like, I don't care. Like, people, they say, you know, looking from the outside, they're like, oh, man, if I had an opportunity, I would do anything. I would do whatever. I would do this.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Like, nah. Say that to the wrong person. Listen. Listen. Say that to the wrong person. Say that to the wrong dark room. No. Hey, bro. Hey, it's going. Yo, listen, listen. Say that in the wrong dark room. Hey, it's going, yo, listen, man.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Seriously, and you have to make those choices because this game, like me and Pooh was talking in the break room. You know, man, this game, it don't know what to do with that ain't thirsty. Like, they don't know what to do with that. Like, when you are not, you know, the whole thing, just just oh yo you did you do whatever you know i'm saying that's hungry that's hungry you got to be hungry that's not i'll do whatever that's not hunger that's thirst all right we got more with little brother when we come back it's the breakfast club good morning
Starting point is 01:05:38 morning everybody we still kicking it with little brothers dj envy just hilarious charlamagne the god they're in the builders just how important is like awards to you like and that because you guys are very very very stern on who y'all are yeah and like you said earlier you don't know of who you are is conducive to some shit like this or you know especially nowadays and the thirst and you know versus hunger so how important are award shows and in getting awards to artists like you? Man, I'll go first. I was nominated, my other group, the Foreign Exchange R&B group,
Starting point is 01:06:13 we were nominated for a Grammy in 2010. And I had the opportunity to go to the Grammys and really see what that experience was. And I think having that experience just showed me like yeah it's kind of a racket basically i'm just keeping it a band i mean it was you know it was great to be honored but again this is just the behind the scenes stuff that people don't get you know i mean you know when you go to these shows first and foremost you know at least at that time you know
Starting point is 01:06:42 you you still gotta buy tickets you still gotta pay for like this don't come with a check at all you can get out there and you can try to make something shake on your own if you want to do like i know the roots they do their grammy jam session every year whatever so if you want to kind of do that you can but generally speaking just as a nominee like everything is on you so this is you know you gotta pay to go to the grammys if you're nominated yeah they pay for your flight they give you like a ticket but you get two tickets like in there yeah you get tickets for use at a time it was like some discount tickets right so it's like so if it's me and you or me and him is grammy nominated it's like okay y'all get free tickets to the show but anyone you want to bring gotta pay y'all gotta pay and we'll let you get
Starting point is 01:07:25 it for half off but you still gotta pay how much is it half off still like a hundred dollars or something oh no no no not at the time when i did it oh well i know when when i don't know what it is when dreamville was nominated and luke went he got a ticket i think doe got a ticket and i think any extra tickets would have been like a hundred100 or something it might have been more I don't know it was even for the BET Awards at some point like you had to pay I remember I wanted to go one year and I had to pay like it was like 340 or something like that I didn't pay $340 so we might have been getting a super duper discount at the time when I went at the time when we went the tickets for the Grammys and again
Starting point is 01:08:03 this is 2010 so you know I don't know what it is now. But yeah, it was 2010. Tickets for the Grammys, $1,200 a piece. And so in order for us to go, me and Nick, Nick and my partner, shouts to him, we went. And so our tickets were free. But then everyone else, we brought. Family, everybody. That was $600 a pop.
Starting point is 01:08:24 You know what I'm saying? So that's $1 a pop you know i'm saying so that's 1200 on tickets then you got you know hotels flights like you know you gotta buy clothes everything we had to pay like a pr person you know i'm saying um to like walk to talk about to walk you to red carpet to talk up your nomination and everything and you know and i've never like we never talked about it you know it was something that we didn't just have time to get into the doc. But like, man, I thought came back from the Grammys. I had to take out like a personal loan.
Starting point is 01:08:49 I'm like, God damn, I done spent my damn eight thousand dollars. You know what I'm saying? And so so for me, so to your original question with the awards, I think that just in my experience, it was I was glad I got to see it. But ultimately, I'm just like, nah, I don't care. I'm good. I don't care. Because again, it plays to image. It plays to image.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah. And I mean, listen, it's all, you know, to be nominated for a Grammy, like to be, you know, amongst, you know, to sit amongst, you know, be in that room and see it. Like I'm watching the show and it's like Kenny G is like standing right there, like same hair, like same hair like same thing and and that's another thing too with the Grammys do specifically like y'all watch it on TV at home and it's like three hours you know I'm saying it's not three hours longer it's longer and with no and you it ain't no at the time when we went the Staples Center was like closing down so like you
Starting point is 01:09:44 they have like the pre-Grammy brunch before and you know you get a little food whatever and then they take you over to the main hall to the Grammy ceremony and all the vendors in the Staples Center they shutting down so it's no food for hours it was like one dude we caught that had like the little uh he had like some candy and he had like you know little snicker bars and damn m&ms so we bought like a couple like a bag of m&ms and some snickers we sitting in that goddamn taking the m&ms passing us now and i'm like this is supposed to be music greatest night and i'm eating goddamn m&ms in the stable center no fool not when we went i'm just saying i don't
Starting point is 01:10:19 want to speak about my i've never been to the grammys but, but I've been to a BET Hip Hop Awards and that shit. No, ain't no food in there. No, yeah, ain't no food. That was about five hours, and I was like, hell no. No food. We went, I walked out, I left, though. We were supposed to present. It was taking too long, man. I had to go. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:10:37 He really left. We were supposed to present. He was like, I'm giving y'all ten minutes. I was like, he ain't going to leave. We was there all day. I was like, he ain't going to leave. Nah, that's real. I am like, I'm not beating for none of that stuff.
Starting point is 01:10:49 No, man. And I mean, like for me, you know, yeah, it'd be cool to be nominated for a Grammy. I ain't never been nominated. But at the end of the day, I can't be somewhere too long and not just say what I need to say. So I just don't go to places where I'm gonna be there a long time because might have to say something it might happen to say the truth learning kind of learning what all this is you know I mean like it's a campaign it's a campaign it's not a meritocracy like the
Starting point is 01:11:18 minute you and that was I guess the thing for me but once I saw that you know it was really you know it's super political it's super you know who you know like it's a lot of those things but you know for for me all i cared about was just making the music and you know if my music is standing up against somebody you know just judging on the basis of the music once you're getting all this other it's just like again it was educational it's like oh okay i know that's what it is now all right cool i'm good on it you know i mean and that's the thing i want to make clear it's not that we don't care yeah we just understand what it is and what it's going to take if you want to make that run it's like running for president you know i mean yeah will we ever get a fonte
Starting point is 01:11:57 pool knife wonder reunion nah damn damn i didn't even think about it it was like maybe there was a possibility why why why are you acting like they don't know they don't understand from the jump that's why we gotta watch the doc yeah it's in the doc i mean we we talk about everything but it don't seem like it's none of y'all is your country falling apart feeling tired depressed a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag.
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Starting point is 01:17:22 I can't reconcile? It doesn't seem like they can be like, at least a maybe. It's not even a It's not even a... It's not even a... It's not even a thing about reconciling anything. It's just... Because everybody alive. Yeah. It's just...
Starting point is 01:17:33 That's just not what it's going to be. That's it. You know, little brothers, Fonte and Poo, and Knife Wonder is Knife Wonder. And, you know, we wish him all the best and, you know, whatever,
Starting point is 01:17:42 all his endeavors and we're going to keep doing us. And that's just what it is. Anyways, Beyonce, what's up with Michelle and Kelly and Farrah? They might do a Destiny child review. They might not. Come on, Farrah. But if Beyonce be like, no.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Not with all the names. She said Farrah. It's not the same, though, because Destiny's Child, we got like, it felt like we got closure with that. I don't feel like we got closure with that you know i don't think i got closure with little brother the documentary is closure yeah no and he said no charlamagne the documentary is all you want sometimes we not we're not afforded the closure we want damn i know i'm a girl but it's closer you get the closure you get well definitely check out the documentary learn about little brothers made the lord watch the little brother story. See Dawkins Menonard with that hairline.
Starting point is 01:18:27 That was fun. That took me, like, watching videos, because, you know, we weren't even thinking about video. I wasn't thinking about video back then. Right, no, for real. So to see that, I was like, damn. And we were surprised we even had that footage. Yeah, I didn't know he wasn't thinking. He didn't even know who he was.
Starting point is 01:18:39 He said, hold on, what? He didn't know who he was. I showed everybody. I was like, who's that? He was like, I'm not in the dark He ran over there Got some cream Full of spaces
Starting point is 01:18:47 And he got mad I was like yeah That was you When you was dark skinned That was you Man You got the Columbia
Starting point is 01:18:54 Columbia, South Carolina 803 803 803.9 Absolutely man Well it's little brother Thank y'all for having us Thank you
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Starting point is 01:19:29 monique on club shea shea so also what i found interesting is her story on kevin hart so we're no stranger to the history of monique and tyler perry um but she did have some help um she was saying l shopton uh reached out to help her She had talked to people like Stephanie Mills and Kevin Hart was one of the people that she actually was talking to about setting down, like getting him and Oprah. I mean, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Tiffany Haddish and, I mean, what? What are you saying, Jessa? Use your fingernail. Kevin Hart was trying to get Tyler Perry and Monique to sit down together. But Tyler Perry told Kevin Hart, look, I want to move past that. I don't even want nothing to do with it no more. So that's what Kevin Hart, you know, called her back and said to her.
Starting point is 01:20:16 And she said, OK, Kevin Hart did say, listen, I will help you, though. Whatever you need to do to get past this, any production is fine. I'll make it happen for you, Mo, need to do to get past this any production it's fine i i'll make it happen for you mo wanting to help her so she she went on ahead with that she told her husband okay listen kevin hart's gonna help us a couple weeks later we have the audio she explained that kevin hart's manager called her said this we get a call from indomore indomore says we just got a call from kevin hart's manager dave becky and d. And Dave Becky said, Kevin doesn't want anything to do with Monique. You know, he doesn't want any kind of relationship with Monique. I called Kevin Hart immediately.
Starting point is 01:20:51 I said, hey, baby, we just got off the phone with Indermaw. And they said, Dave Becky called them up and said, you don't want anything to do with me. He said, Mo, that's a miscommunication. I can tell you right now. I said, wait a minute. Are you okay, though, with this white man calling them up, getting in between our relationship, something you said? He said, Mo, that's a miscommunication, and we're going to talk Tuesday. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:21:11 I'm telling you right now, it's a miscommunication. That was two years ago. If you talk to him, I talk to him. I've never talked back to Kevin Hart again. That is very, very interesting. She was very adamant about that story okay so ain't nobody got nothing to say?
Starting point is 01:21:29 I don't know what's true and what's not true I know everybody got a story but they telling their stories on Club Shae Shae drop on the clues bombs for Club Shae Shae you better go here and stick next to your friends I know that's right Club Shae Shae out here smoking I love it I was getting wrapped up at the first but i bought it right back
Starting point is 01:21:46 all right so we're gonna we're gonna move on to what she had some interesting things to say about tiffany haddish because tiffany haddish said some things to say about her play number three i remember our beautiful sister tiffany haddish did an interview with gq magazine and i'm assuming the journalist was a white person and And the conversation turned to Monique. And she said, well, I don't do business like Monique do business. And I'm glad I don't have that husband of hers. And when I saw that, it's like, Tiffany, if you had a husband like mine, you may not have two DUIs. If you had a husband like mine, you may not be caught up in what looks like you could have been grooming a child and I say all of that was no judgment but when you speak about having
Starting point is 01:22:30 a husband like mine you open up the door and I'm saying to you if you had one like mine you may not sit in these positions that you can't explain the next day that's very fair I mean if Tiffany said that about Monique and GQ, Monique has every right to respond. Yeah, yeah. People were saying that Monique quoted it wrong. She didn't say, I'm glad I don't have a husband like her. She was just saying, I don't have that husband that she has. So, I mean, none is better than the other.
Starting point is 01:22:58 It's whether she was glad that she don't. She was just saying, I don't have that husband that she has. But either way, Monique has every right to respond. Absolutely. And then Shannon Sharp, he's so funny. He said either way, Monique has every right to respond. Absolutely. And then Shannon Sharp, he's so funny. He said, well, she ain't even married at all, is she? And Monique took a sip of that cognac and said, well, you said it, I didn't. Shannon don't need to do that, though.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Shannon, they already coming on your platform, spilling their guts. You don't got to add no seasoning to it. He sure don't. Shannon, you don't got to put no sauce on it. You don't got to spit on it at all. But he puts very little, very, very little. Very little sauce on it. He sure don't. Shannon, you don't got to put no sauce on it. You don't got to spit on it at all. But he puts very little, very, very little. Very little sauce on it. He don't.
Starting point is 01:23:29 He don't need to put none because, you know, all of us in this room know how sensitive people can be. Yeah. You know what I mean? So that little bit of something, they'll turn into something more major. Shannon Shaw don't care. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Why put yourself in that situation if you don't have to? A couple of times she also made him look in the camera, right? Because he was asking questions about when she was telling stories about Tyler Perry and Oprah. And she said, look in your goddamn camera and ask them yourself. And he was like, well, okay. He said, Tyler Perry. I was like, how about you come on Club Shay Shay and then you have a conversation with me. And we'll sit here and we'll try to figure out how we can get Monique compensated for this.
Starting point is 01:24:06 I'm going to join you. And I'm going to do one better. Me and my husband will sit right next to him and ask him these questions. Y'all out your damn mind if y'all think Tyler Perry ever doing something like this. Hell no. And these are the things we know but they still had to prompt to ask. Yeah. Tyler ain't doing it. Madea ain't doing it. That'll never
Starting point is 01:24:21 happen. Nope. Tyler or Madea? Definitely not. Madea ain't the one with the problems. Alright, well thank you for that jest with the mess. Charlamagne, who you giving your donkey to? Well, you know, let's stay with the Monique situation. I want to give the breakfast
Starting point is 01:24:37 nub. I guess that would be myself a donkey of the day this morning. Absolutely. Anybody ask, you Baltimore. Alright. He do look a little nubby, don't he look a, Baltimore. All right. He do look a little nubby. Don't he look a little nubby over there? He definitely look a little nubby. Okay, okay, guys.
Starting point is 01:24:50 And I think it's funny that I decided to speak on that she called you a nub and you got the fresh bald head, Mr. Clean and shiny, everything. And this is exactly what you get, Lenard. Donkey, they haven't started yet. All right, okay.
Starting point is 01:25:01 The Breakfast Nub will be back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out The Breakfast Club. I was born a donkey. It's the donkey of the day. It's these donkeys.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Bunch of jackass. For the donkey of the day. That's pretty funny. Charlamagne the devil? It's possible. The Breakfast Club. Yes, donkey of the day for Thursday, February 8 Possibly. The Breakfast Club. Yes. Donkey of the Day for Thursday, February 8th goes to the breakfast nubs.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Or should I say breakfast nub, which would just be me. Singular. Singular sounds better. Charlemagne the God. Jess told me I should do this because Monique is from Baltimore. Absolutely. And that's her aunt, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Yes. And I'm a sweet baby. Yes. And Envy don't have anything to do with this. Jess Larris has nothing to do with this because she just got here Monday. Okay. Together, us three are the Breakfast Club, but I am the breakfast snub. All right.
Starting point is 01:25:53 That's what Monique called us on Club Shea Shea yesterday. Well, called me on Club Shea Shea yesterday. When she was reminiscing over the time, she received Donkey today. Let's listen to her on Club Shea Shea. We were able to do the special and we appreciated them saying, listen, how can we work this out? Now, you know what happens with that? People were having call-ins when I said, this is not right. I was donkey of the day.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Remember that? I was donkey of the day. The breakfast nubs called me the donkey of the day. That's what they said. And they had a whole call-in about how I was donkey of the day. But you didn't do the same thing when you found out we settled now all of a sudden don't nobody know what a settlement is it was really really quick we just won't throw it away so with that netflix special it was just it was just like no guys i gotta i gotta stand out now if you remember uh monique back in the day like 2018 called for a
Starting point is 01:26:39 boycott of netflix saying they lowballed her monique said in an instagram video that netflix offered her a half a million dollars for a comedy special. And she pointed out Amy Schumer was offered 11 million. Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock, 20 million. I gave her donkey of the day for that because it was in my opinion that Monique, you know, wasn't on the level of Dave, Amy and Chris. And she came on Breakfast Club and said this. What happens is when you give me a title of donkey of the day, is your mother still alive? Yes, ma'am. And you're from what city in South Carolina? Monks Corner, South Carolina. Monks
Starting point is 01:27:10 Corner. And if I was to call your mother, your grandmother, could they tell me stories of inequality that they had to deal with? Absolutely. So would your mother be a donkey? No. Would your grandmother be a donkey? No. I need you to explain how you gave me the title because you're not explaining it. You're going off of what I me the title because you're not explaining it you're going off of what i assume but because you're on that microphone and when we open up these microphones we know just how powerful our voices can be and we know that what we say can become law correct lenore absolutely so when we do that we must then explain it to our community because we know how poisonous it can be when we put things out.
Starting point is 01:27:46 But we can't back it up. We just say it. She's right. Netflix ultimately ended up taking back their offer. And then in 2019, Monique sued Netflix for failing to negotiate in good faith. The federal judge in the case sided with Monique. And in 2022, the lawsuit was settled out of court. Dropping the clues bombs for Monique. OK, here's the thing. I've said this before and I've said it a few times on this radio when it comes to that point monique was right i should have minded my black owned business okay and she's right when she speaks on the power
Starting point is 01:28:13 of the microphone because people from netflix were definitely reaching out to me behind the scenes and they tried to explain why monique didn't get the money that amy dave and chris got doesn't matter what the conversation consisted of just Just know, as I just said, Monique sued them and they settled. So there clearly was some validity to the injustice that she spoke of. Monique, you were right. OK, I've said that before on this radio and I'll say it again. So you hear me. I had no business speaking on your business. OK, there is absolutely a pay discrepancy for black women. Black women are typically paid only 67 cents for every dollar paid to white men. And the wage gap actually widens to 65 cents on the dollar for black women who hold doctorate degrees compared to white men with the same education.
Starting point is 01:28:52 OK, not to mention all the proof is in the pudding. When you see a company as big as Netflix with all the money Netflix has, they could have dragged this out. OK, they settled with Monique. OK, and still put out a Monique comedy special. All right. We've heard Taraji come out and complain about the paid discrepancy in Hollywood. Look, we can have a million conversations as to why that is, what that is. The moral of the story is there's too many black women out here with the same story. OK, Monique, God bless you, sister. And if you have never heard me say this before, or if I've never said it because I was born in 1978 and my memory is not what it used to be. I apologize for being wrong.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Say it again. Man, shut up. No, seriously, you need to go ahead. Could y'all stop? Give me a moment. That's crazy. I apologize, Monique,
Starting point is 01:29:36 for giving you donkey of the day because once again, regardless of how I felt about the situation with you and Netflix, I had no business in your business and broadcasting your business and it was Envy's idea to open the Netflix. I had no business in your business and broadcasting your business
Starting point is 01:29:45 and it was Envy's idea to open the phone lines for people to comment on your business. It wasn't mine, okay? But I truly... Were you going to apologize? I apologized, Monique.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Okay. And I think you should apologize to her husband as well. What did he got to do with this? Because it was both of them. Both of them was doing this and both of them felt disrespected. That's her manager.
Starting point is 01:30:04 He wasn't here? He was here. He was outside. You should apologize to her husband as well them felt disrespected. That's her manager. He wasn't here? He was here. He was outside. You should apologize to her. He's always around. That's the thing. He's always here. He called in.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Yeah, apologize to her husband too. Well, apologize to her husband. I apologize to her husband, Sidney. Sidney, right? That's his name? Sidney. Yes. I truly, truly, truly pray this apology is received by you, Monique.
Starting point is 01:30:20 And I hope you heal. Because I feel like when I hear somebody talking about something for a long period of time, that means they have been holding on to it and it's bothering them in some way. And as a therapist once told me, if you don't want your peace to serve, don't disturb the peace of others. I clearly disturbed your peace. I heard Donkey of the Day mentioned in the intro to your Netflix special. I heard you talk about Donkey of the Day on Club Shea Shea. Monique, I apologize. i want peace i want us to heal whatever this is i want that for everybody you mentioned in the club shea interview i truly pray for peace and healing for us all monique i want that for you i want that for
Starting point is 01:30:56 me because i love us for real please give charlamagne toa God, a.k.a. The Breakfast Nub, the biggest hee-haw. Absolutely. That's good. You're doing what's right. Sitting over there looking like a wannabe-ass Bokeem Woodbine. I just knew you had something to say. Yeah. I just knew it. I'm going to keep on saying you look like DJ Paul Nub.
Starting point is 01:31:18 That's what you look like. And his look a little better. I think. Yeah. Yeah. You like my damn Light that sage Let me get one of those Fresh kneecap head Look good
Starting point is 01:31:36 Let's open the phone line Oh now you want to open up the phone line Well it was your idea to open up the phone line for something negative before I just said just open up the phone line That's positive He get locked up Envy come out the bushes Well, it was your idea to open up the phone lines for something negative before. I just said just open up the phone lines. That's positive. I thought you wanted to buy. See, he get locked up. Envy, come out the bushes.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Envy right there. You got there right. Both of us. Listen, but that is what happened, though. We just opened the phone lines and we asked people what they thought. Opinioners. Well, it's the same thing now. Let's open up the phone lines and ask people what they thought.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Okay. About Charlamagne, the breakfast snub, and the Monique situation now. It's five years later. Right? That's right. Six years later, actually. 800-585-1051. Let's open up the phone lines.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Yes. Let's have a conversation. Yes. Charlamagne. Charlamagne. Charlamagne. I am not yours. Just apologize.
Starting point is 01:32:19 I don't know what the hell you got going on in your head, but I am not yours. Charlamagne just apologized. I am not yours. Charlamagne would buy. Leonard would buy. He just apologized to apologized. Charlemagne Woodbine. Leonard Woodbine. He just apologized to Monique and Big Daddy and Sidney.
Starting point is 01:32:30 So let's open up the phone line and have a conversation. Yeah. Big Daddy. That never happens. You should have said I apologize to Big Mo and Big Daddy. That's what you should have said.
Starting point is 01:32:39 There's nothing serious up here. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you just join us, Charlamagne apologized to Monique.
Starting point is 01:32:56 I gave myself donkey today because I had no business being in her business. By the way, I've said this on the Breakfast Club a few times over the last five, six years. But, you know, on Club Sexy, I guess she hadn't heard it. Right. Well, we need to do some investigating. We know the online people, they can pull it up
Starting point is 01:33:11 when and how many times you actually did say it. That's right. Receipts are out there if they are. So we're opening up the phone lines 800-585-1051
Starting point is 01:33:20 and just asking your opinion. Because you apologized this morning, which I can't explain. Yeah, and it's six years later. Yeah, but did he apologize to Daddy? Who is Daddy? You want me to say I'm sorry, Daddy.
Starting point is 01:33:28 That ain't happening. Just say it. You need to say it for the world. I think it's right. I think you need to say that. That's crazy. All right, well, say Mommy and Daddy. It don't matter.
Starting point is 01:33:36 You just go Daddy and Dad. Hello, who's this? What's up, baby? Hey, what's up, Trav? I ain't here for your sister Cowboys loss. What's going on, brother? I thought you asked me, Andy. I know.
Starting point is 01:33:47 He didn't say anything. He didn't say anything. What's up, Jeff? Hey, how you doing, baby? I'm doing good, baby. Char. Peace, sis. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:55 I told you four or five years ago that you was wrong for giving Monique donkey of the day. You told me to shut up and mind my business, and I remember like it was yesterday. Thank you so much for finally apologizing to that black queen. You should have been did it publicly like this. Trav. I think you should apologize to Trav, too. Apologize to me.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Thank you, Envy. Trav, Trav. Shut up and mind your business, okay? All right. All right. Why? I can't say it. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 01:34:28 What's poppin', y'all? What's poppin'? This is Alicia from New York. How y'all doing? What's up, Alicia? What's your thoughts, mama? What's my thoughts? I want to just give a big shout-out to Charlamagne
Starting point is 01:34:37 for holding himself accountable. You know, it's been many years, and sometimes you got to look at people from a different perspective, and black women have been fighting with the pay-to-strategy for many years, and sometimes you got to look at people from a different perspective. And black women have been fighting with the pay disparities for many years. And so for you to take that perspective and just shout her out and give her apologies, I got to give you your grace for that. That's what's up.
Starting point is 01:34:55 I just want to shout out Black Investor. We are a women's group that are pushing women and generational wealth, especially black women. And just shout out to Monique for holding her, you know, standing on business. And you guys, I just love your show.
Starting point is 01:35:10 And I think you guys are doing a great thing. And Charlamagne and Envy, DJ Envy, shout out to y'all for really standing on business this morning and seeing that there was a,
Starting point is 01:35:19 you know, an issue. And you guys apologizing and giving that woman her flowers because it's hard out here for the black woman. We out here, not only are we black, but we are women. And we deserve to be paid the same amount as everybody else.
Starting point is 01:35:32 We do the same amount of work. More. I just want to say that. We do more. We do more. We're raising households. We're starting businesses. And again, I just want to shout out Black Investor.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Go look it up. We're a new black women group and we're talking about black women and generational wealth and that pay gap. Trying to close that. Thank you, mama.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Well, thank you, Alicia. Yes, ma'am. All right. 800-585-1051. Charlamagne gave himself donkey today, the Breakfast Club nub. Mr. Nubby himself,
Starting point is 01:36:01 he just wanted to apologize to Monique and her husband. I said Monique. But I do, I give it to her to Monique and her husband. I said Monique. But I give it to her husband, too, because they are definitely a unit. But it's mainly to Monique is what you're saying. Yes, mainly to Monique. Monique is the one I had a conversation with. And all the people that called in and checked them years ago, you want to apologize to them, too?
Starting point is 01:36:17 I don't remember none of them calls from years ago. I can't do all that now. Okay? I can't. I don't remember none of that. All right. Did you say sorry to Daddy? Because you're the one who opened up the phone line.
Starting point is 01:36:26 You took the call. You took the call. You're the one who said, let's open up the phone line six years ago and see what people think about, you know, Monique's claims. I was just opening up the phone lines to see good or bad. Not all bad. And did he say, hello, this is daddy. I'm calling up dad. Did he say that?
Starting point is 01:36:41 Envy said, daddy's on the line. Hey, y'all. 800-585-1051. Let's discuss. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlemagne the guy.
Starting point is 01:36:51 We are The Breakfast Club. If you just joined us, Charlemagne gave himself donkey of the day, The Breakfast Club nub himself. Yes, because I gave myself donkey of the day, but I apologize to Monique because I had no business in her business back in the day. Without knowing all of the day. Without knowing all of the business. Without knowing all of the business. So, yeah. Yes. Because your job is to be in people's business, but only if you know it all. I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:14 You're just with the mess. Your news is real. Yes, it is. Yes. So, we're opening up the phone lines and talking to people out there about, you know, Charlamagne's donkey today. Hello, who's this? What's going on, Andy? What's up, King? Hey, what's up, brother?
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Starting point is 01:40:44 how to navigate the big changes in our lives. It was like a slow nightmare, you know, because every day you think, oh, surely tomorrow I'll be better. And I would dream of being better. At night I would dream that my face was quote unquote normal or back to the way it was. And I'd wake up and there'd be no change. I also speak with scientists about how we can be more resilient in the face of change. You can think of the adolescent brain as like the social R&D engine of our culture, that something that looks like risky and idiotic to us is maybe their way of creatively trying to
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Starting point is 01:42:30 app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We need you on Fort Lauderdale for the show ASAP. I will. Thank you, King. Charlotte, I'm from the 1700s myself, brother, and I appreciate you. You're from the 1900s? From the 1900s, bro. 1900s the 1700s myself, brother, and I appreciate you. You're from the 1900s.
Starting point is 01:42:45 From the 1900s, bro. 1900s and 70s. 1900s and 70s, absolutely. That's how I feel. But I want to give you appreciation for being a man and apologizing. That's a great thing. But the only thing we need you to do in this community is pay attention to your level of who you are right now. Because a lot of things you said inspired me and opened my eyes.
Starting point is 01:43:11 So your voice is very important in our community, brother. But I appreciate you for being the man that's stepping up and doing that. Thank you, King. Appreciate you, brother. All right, man. All right, y'all. Hello, who's this? Good morning.
Starting point is 01:43:22 It's Malaysia. How you doing, Breakfast Club? What's up, Malaysia? That's good. Well, I just wanted to touch on what you guys were talking about with Monique. I've been behind her since day one. She's definitely always been a good comedian, a good actor. And, you know, I'm with her for going after Netflix and making her say her words.
Starting point is 01:43:42 That's amazing. That's good. All right. Well, thank you for checking in. She sued them in one, so clearly it was some validity to the things that she said. Right.
Starting point is 01:43:50 You're definitely right. They probably want, you know, it to get bigger than it was, so they just kind of tried to, you know, make the snowball smaller. So that was smart
Starting point is 01:44:02 on their behalf. And, Charlamagne, that was very mature of you to apologize brought you know broadcasting it everywhere just like you did when you you know kind of put her out the first time no you know i said it in the room i said i should apologize to bonica just yes you just said harry said yes you should you stupid mother yeah or something to that effect i don't know it was worse hello who's this this is me hey what's up good morning how you feeling i'm feeling great first of all just congratulations i've been
Starting point is 01:44:32 missing just with the mess so much thank you boy i got one coming today so thank you charlamagne that was so big and so proud of you it takes a bigger person to apologize than me when they're wrong. Thank you. You're welcome. We appreciate you. You have a good one. You too. All right.
Starting point is 01:44:51 Well, what's the moral of the story? The moral of the story is, man, I just want peace for everybody. Like I said during Donkey of the Day, if you don't want your peace disturbed, don't disturb the peace of others. So I hope that, you know, that apology can help us all, you know, heal from this. Because I love us for real. The more in-depth moral is mind your business until you know all the facts.
Starting point is 01:45:10 And that's, yeah, maybe you should do the same too. That's right. But you should apologize. And stand up for all fairness. That's right. That's what needs to happen all around the board.
Starting point is 01:45:17 So that's what I'm here for. I'm glad I'm up here now. That's right. And we got Jess with the mess. We got Jess with the mess? Yeah. Yeah, we got jess with the mess and guess what we talking about what dang don't say what so quick this is we're going we're going um we're talking about uh men and how they can be affected by things as well men are are strong people but they they're like any other human being they are emotional as well so we're gonna talk about that all right we're gonna do that next it's the breakfast of the morning
Starting point is 01:45:48 morning everybody it's dj envy charlemagne the god just hilarious we are the breakfast club good morning let's get to just with the mess Okay, G Herbo breaks down over the loss of his best friend. So a video of G Herbo talking about, you know, losing his best friend and how, you know, it hurt him very bad. He was on a podcast actually with the father of his best friend. And they actually grew up together. And he lost him. He lost him. And we just have an audio for it. He was saying this.
Starting point is 01:46:32 I know I'm not responsible. I know I'm not responsible. That's all I was really hoping, bro. I'm able to sleep at night comfortably and know that it's not my fault. But I'm going to still feel like it's my fault because I can't live life. Nothing I do, if I get a Grammy, an Oscar, I'm going to stink about my little brother, gang. I ain't going to lie to you. You see what I'm saying? My life can't be complete without me. I ain't going to lie to you. It don't feel complete. It's never going to feel complete without him. And I've
Starting point is 01:46:54 been through a lot of shit, way too much shit. It still ain't making sense to me. Why? It's a million other people that feel like this. So I can't take it personally. It's not about me. It ain't about Greg. It's about the way we feel every day trying to navigate through this i know y'all try to feel like this gang i'm g herbo don't cap what the world crying i'm that for real and i know i am let it out king absolutely nothing wrong with what you feeling my brother you gotta feel your feels And although he did say that it was not his fault, he, you know, ended up saying that. He felt like it was because, you know, he would always tell his best friend, you know, Lil Greg, don't go to that barbershop.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Stop going there. And this is just the cause and effect of being in the hood, hanging in certain places. And he said that Lil Greg wouldn't listen to him. You know, like, you know, he wouldn't listen to him. And like I said, that is Big Greg, Lil greg's dad that g herbo sat down with and it's um it's a small podcast but i think after this you know it's gonna actually do its thing um as it showed the emotional side of a rapper which people tend to act like is not there he's still a man he's still a human you know and he and people deal with loss different ways.
Starting point is 01:48:05 That's right. And I applaud him for actually just being vulnerable enough. And that's his best friend's father. So I know they know each other. They have a deep connection. That's right. And grief is not linear either. It's not like a slow progression forward toward healing.
Starting point is 01:48:19 It's a zigzag. It's a back and forth. One day you might be fine. Right. Next day you might be in tears on a podcast. That's how grief works. Yeah. And you can literally see he's still tore up about it.
Starting point is 01:48:28 You know what I'm saying? And just to shout out the dad's podcast, it's called Daddy's Podcast. Okay. And it is, I believe it's out of Chicago. Next, Logic confronts his dad for being absent. He, logically speaking, he a car a podcast it's called logically speaking pod and he uh sat down and had a public conversation with his father he got emotional when he confronted his dad about not being around but number one i waited every weekend
Starting point is 01:48:55 and you never showed up and he always told you always said that you would what is it like as a man who used a substance that would allow you to make that little boy wait forever the things in which like i have done in my past have come back to haunt me okay you know because like you say peace love and positivity right yeah but you know how can you have peace love and positivity if you don't have experience strength and hope because they both come together yeah uh that was also emotional as well because uh for those who don't know uh logic is uh biracial when he was actually talking about his parents so his dad is uh black and his mom is white he was saying it affected him greatly when his dad left um because he he suffered from you know substance abuse addiction, and all that.
Starting point is 01:49:49 And when his father left, his mom would say racist comments about him, call him out of his name and words and stuff like that. And that actually played a part on... I wonder if that's racist as much as it is just anger. Anger, yeah. A little bit of both, I'm sure. If it makes you say those things. Because I actually said that as well. Well, she was with this man at one point, then he left and he became a nigga, you know, to her.
Starting point is 01:50:10 But just imagine how Logic grows up because he's grown up on his white side and he's probably raised to be like, F that end, F those end, because they just going to leave you anyway. So you have to start feeling that. F that end, F that particular one. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, that's his dad but um he uh also uh spoke on how not giving his dad money also actually affected that as well when i give 10 000 here 5 000 here of cash to somebody and then they blow it and then they don't got nothing they don't use it right and then they look at me like i f***ed up or i something wrong. And then they come back and they ask me again and again and again.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Now, as a millionaire who is broken that cycle, made it out the hood, educated myself and understand what it means to be self-sufficient. There is no way as a man that I could ever, as much as it hurts me to see the people that I love struggle, give them money and watch them just burn it to nothing again. So I say all that to say, Daddy, I love you with all my heart. And the only reason I ain't never given you a crazy amount of money is because I didn't want to see you blow it. Yeah. Yeah. I actually can understand that as well. Growing up in Baltimore City with, you know, family members that, you know, were addicted, you know, still are and just people that i know and i've seen people get money and then i've even had money there's money that i won't put in certain people's hands because of that you know i'll buy whatever you need for you right but giving you the
Starting point is 01:51:35 money just so you can you know you know they ain't gonna do the right thing with things but it you know it's just it's not good so i understand that um and stop asking stop asking people for for amounts you've never had in your life. Before. And talk about you're going to pay them back next Friday.
Starting point is 01:51:47 You ain't never had this in your life but you can all of a sudden pay me back next Friday? Yeah, I can't stand that. But let me ask you a question. Now, he breaks it down more. He talks about, you know,
Starting point is 01:51:54 giving people houses and cars and things like that but as our parents grow up and we have aunts and uncles and family members when we're growing up a lot of times they give us their last, right?
Starting point is 01:52:03 Their last might not be how much we make now. Their last at the time might be a hundred dollars that might be everything to them so now we get in position where we make a little bit more money and now they're asking for money is it that bad but i'm saying it depends on what they're doing with it and if you know what they're doing with it then you and you buy them what they need you know what i'm saying you buy them things that are going to help them be in a better position now you can't go broke taking care of other people. No, no, no. Because their ask are different.
Starting point is 01:52:26 They go online and Google net worths and all kind of stuff. Yeah. And think that's what people are actually holding on to. Yeah. And liquid. And that's what they be asking for crazy amounts that'll make you go broke. Like the way Logic broke it down just now is absolutely right. I buy all of these people houses.
Starting point is 01:52:40 That's like $5 million in houses. And I got to pay the bills. And I got to take care of your mortgages and all that. No. I'm going to give you my last. Yeah. Meaning and I got to take care of your mortgages and all that. No. I'm going to give you my last. Meaning, I'm going to give you the last thing that you gave me. Okay? You gave me $22?
Starting point is 01:52:52 $22? I'm going to give you $22 back. You can't be ridiculous with it. But you know why those black men are able to be vulnerable like that? Well, you look at Logic is Black, I'm proud of you. Black man and a half of black man. Because they have both done the work on themselves. Okay? Logic is in therapy. G proud of you. Black man and a half of black men. Because they have both done the work on themselves. Logic is in therapy.
Starting point is 01:53:06 G Herbo is in therapy. G Herbo has been a guest at the Mental Wealth Expo. I do it every year. So those brothers have done the work on themselves and there's nothing wrong with expressing yourself. And that's exactly why I chose both of these stories to report in the last hour, just to cater to the fact that men are still human and they handle things differently
Starting point is 01:53:21 and they need to be uplifted and encouraged as well. Before I get out of here, I saw something different. Yesterday, I mean, I saw something interesting. Jaheim is back. Remember, we Jaheim fans have gone years without hearing from him.
Starting point is 01:53:35 And then I remember there was a meme circulating when we saw him. He was like bald. He wasn't looking good or whatever. And they played a joke. It was a joke or whatever, a laughing matter
Starting point is 01:53:44 when it was like, this is what happens when you put that woman first or something like that. Yep, yep, yep. And some people saying he was struggling with addiction and all of that. And he just resurfaced on the net. He looks great.
Starting point is 01:53:54 His skin looks good. His hair is curly. Like, it's growing back and everything. And he sounds great. He sounds, his age, I mean, yeah, his voice with his age. You love OGR and B things. I really do, I swear. You love OGR and B things. I really do, I swear.
Starting point is 01:54:06 You love OGR and B. And he looks good, so hopefully he will be booked in the future and everything. It was announced, I don't know if it was true or not, but it was announced that he's joining Keisha Cole and Trey Songz for a couple shows. That'd be dope. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that would be dope. Shout out to Jaheim. And also... What Tank doing?
Starting point is 01:54:23 Huh? What Genuine doing? I don't know what's up with them. Oh. They not in the news today. Oh. And also, um, what tank doing men? Huh? What genuine doing? I don't know what's up with them. Oh, they not in the news today. Oh, R and B money is the last thing I heard from tank. R and B money podcast. And then genuine, I was trying to dance and all that on stage. But, uh, it, like I said, again, men are, um, it's okay to be vulnerable.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Yeah. It's okay to invest in your mental wealth and it's okay and everybody is human Jaheem I'm sure he didn't like saying that stuff about himself and I even shared the meme
Starting point is 01:54:51 a couple times but I'm sure he didn't like saying those things and when you look at where he is now it's like dang he just like my uncle
Starting point is 01:54:58 he just like just a person without money he's just in the limelight so just go a little easy on people what? alright the hell did you just say
Starting point is 01:55:05 Jess Hilarious? Because my uncle can sing two B's on drugs before. All right. No, because they said Jess Hilarious, man. All right.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Jess with the mess. Multiple people are crazy for real. I'm saying when they go wrong. But they say they just don't stop. They just go wrong. But is she really being sincere
Starting point is 01:55:21 but it still sounds like a diss? Oh my God. All right. It's the breakfast club good morning you're checking out the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj mv just hilarious charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club it's black history month what we doing listen man uh salute to my guy b dot you know every day during black history month b dot puts out a podcast
Starting point is 01:55:39 called i didn't know maybe you didn't either on the black effect iheart radio podcast network and today he's talking to us about no trespassing signs. Have you ever wondered about their origins? Listen. On today's episode of I Didn't Know, Maybe You Didn't Either, I have a question. Have you ever seen a no trespassing sign? Did you know they were rooted in slavery?
Starting point is 01:56:00 Because I didn't. All right, so let's hop into a time machine. We're going to go all the way to the end of the Civil War. Okay? Black people are free, technically. But we still can't vote. So the white people of the time vote a bunch of white people in office. And the first laws they make are no trespassing laws.
Starting point is 01:56:19 And why did they make these laws? Well, it was an effort for white landowners to disadvantage black workers. See, if you go back to season one of I didn't know, maybe you didn't either. Right here on the Black Effect Podcast Network. We talked about down in Charleston, South Carolina, where I was educated on different plantations. And the reality is the white landowners, they just own the land, but they didn't know how to cultivate anything on the land. Black folk? Oh, we could survive, baby. I mean, growing our own fruits and vegetables, catching rabbits and catching fish.
Starting point is 01:56:52 But wait, if you don't have any land, now you're trespassing. And what's the penalty for trespassing? Well, usually it was astronomical fines that poor black people just couldn't afford. So what did the white lawmakers of the time implement? You know what? New laws and new rules that said that white people could sell you off to other white people for the amount of months that it would take for you to pay off that fine. So there will be auctions at the courthouse that were very, very identical to the auctions that were taking place 10 to 15 years earlier in the enslaved periods.
Starting point is 01:57:28 But now, instead of enslaved individuals being auctioned off, they were criminals, you know, for trespassing. Simply put, no trespassing signs were designed to confine Negroes. It was a very easy way for white folks to continue the traditions of those enslaved periods, but now under the guise of new laws, they even had black codes where you could be arrested for not having a job, even if you didn't need a job. If a black person worked for a white person, he still had to call him master. They would have to get written permission in order to leave. These black codes in Mississippi, South carolina that jim crow south so yes once upon a time in america people were free to roam around as they pleased and then
Starting point is 01:58:11 came the civil war in 1865 and i didn't know maybe you didn't either all right well salute to b-dot that's right and make sure you subscribe to i didn't know maybe you didn't need the available every day during black history month on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network. All right. Now, when we come back, we got the positive notice, The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now it's time to get up out of here. Jess Hilarious, you good? Thank you. Yes, I'm good. I'm not tired today. Yes, you are.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Yes, you're breathing heavy. Oh, my God. I am tired, but I don't look like it today. All right. Well, leave us in a positive note, Charlotte. Listen, listen. The positive note today is not that, okay? It is some people grow up and some people just get older.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Understand the difference. If you don't understand that difference, you're probably not growing up. Have a blessed day. Breakfast Club, bitches! You all finished or you all done? Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag.
Starting point is 01:59:16 This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that?
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