The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: New 'The Fall of Diddy' Docuseries Details Alleged Cassie Assault & Violent Upbringing, Selena Gomez Deletes Crying Video About Immigrants Deportation Amidst Trolling + More

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

The Breakfast Club Dives Into New 'The Fall of Diddy' Docuseries Details Alleged Cassie Assault & Violent Upbringing, Selena Gomez Deletes Crying Video About Immigrants Deportation Amidst Trolling... . Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. What's up, Jess? You eating already? Young Big Back. But I'm... Young Big Back. It's a granola bar, though.
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Starting point is 00:02:48 Well, today on the show we have Vivek Ramaswamy joining us this morning. Yeah, you know Vivek, he was formerly of the Department of Government Efficiency with Elon Musk in the Trump administration and he left or got pushed out. It's only been like eight days. Seven days. I mean, we don't know, you know, Trump rolled back the DEI initiatives and all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:03:10 the brown guy was gone. But we'll find out why this morning. Jesus. Okay, yeah, we're gonna be kicking it with Vivek. All right. Now, how was your day yesterday? Y'all did anything? Anything special?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Anything at all? Yo, I was just, I got my truck wash. I was so happy that it's been warmer. Just a little bit warmer. But it's still cold. It's still cold, but it's not 17 degrees. Listen, if you 400 pounds and you lose 100, you still fast, okay?
Starting point is 00:03:36 All right? All right? Yeah, I get what you're saying. The temperature dropped a little bit, but God damn. Can you tell your friend over there? Every time he goes We have to don't know Every morning he does it yeah, and they dump it every morning So they don't hear what he says because they have to dump it and they just told me that I was using
Starting point is 00:03:57 Nigga too much, and I need here like that She's not here like that. Well listen, here's the thing. Here's the thing. If you know I'm saying shh, why are you dumping it? Because you ain't go shh. You know I'm not. I've been on the radio 26 years. You know I'm not saying sugar honey ice tea.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Just think about how that don't get. But if they dump it every morning, you do it every morning. Stop dumping it. Stop doing it. I'm not saying it. Okay. You know I'm not saying it, so why are you dumping it? It's a waste of a dump. White ears hear differently. White ears? He's Puerto Rican. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad red, my bad red. It's probably because he's influenced by Eddie who's our executive producer and Eagles fan.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Stop listening to Eddie, okay? How about that? Because I'm not saying the Sugar Honey Eyes T-word. You know that. Oh that goodness. Let's get the show cracking We got front page news when we come back Trump is deporting more people at an alarming rate. This is this is crazy No, we don't know if it's alarming yet because we don't know if these are criminals And if they're illegal and they're committing crimes. Yes, they're not then it's alarming. All right, well, we'll get to that next It'll go anywhere. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guide.
Starting point is 00:05:07 We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Good morning, Morgan. Hey, good morning. Good morning, DJ, Envy, Charlamagne the guide and Jess Hilarious. Y'all all right? Yes, ma'am. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Well, let's get into it. Okay. So listen, President Trump, he's joining House Republicans in Miami this week for the GOP January retreat. The event started yesterday afternoon at the Trump National Doral Golf Club and runs through tomorrow, Wednesday. President Trump joined House Speaker Mike Johnson for a dinner and reception on Monday evening around 7 p.m. where the president addressed the House Republicans annual policy retreat on various topics like his first week in office, recognizing only the male and female genders his rollback of diversity equity inclusion initiatives and the weapons and
Starting point is 00:05:51 Weaponization of government. Let's hear more from President Trump Past seven days. My administration has been moving with urgency and historic speed to reverse every single disaster of the Biden administration By the way, the guy was a disaster. OK, you know, we want to be nice. All of the lawless diversity, equity and inclusion nonsense policies across the government and all across the private sector and the military. They also signed an order to end the weaponization of our government against the American people and investigate all abuses of power.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah, so he also spoke about the Paris Accord and, you know, retreating from that. He touted his team's work, saying since taking office, including he has raised a lot of money for the next election that he assumes he can't use for himself. He credited his success during the 2024 election to TikTok saying he became a little more jaded towards the app, but we'll now see what happens. He also mocked the idea of course of multiple genders as you heard in the audio. Well, earlier in the audio he will say something like people like having seven genders and he made sure that there were only two genders to recognize male and female and You know jokingly saying oh wow that was a tough one And saying you know of course they've got some weird stuff going on so Trump is just not in favor of any of that
Starting point is 00:07:13 And he also turned his attention to immigration where he said the country is moving forward very fast in regards to What's happening with immigration reform, and I'm sure you guys have talked about it We talked about it all week with those ice round-ups We thought quick question just to clear it just to be clear So I know six months ago if you didn't use the proper terms to identify Agenda you could be called to human resources and you could be fired, right? Yeah, so now those terms out the window. Oh, we still think that you identify as a woman. So it's okay I'm not so far. Call you a bitch
Starting point is 00:07:47 In executive order what happens Because he issued an executive order it does not make it absolute law, but it does changes things It does change the scope of things So if you are working in federal government, then that is true I mean you're probably going to have to heed to those rules sooner than someone who's in the private sector. What does that mean? If a trans woman says something to me, I respond, sir? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:08:13 Yeah, well, if you're in the private sector, you should probably still say ma'am. But if you're in the federal sector, then you know it's going to be probably case by case and they will probably deal with that. So you just misidentified me. You called me a woman and I'm a man. So you misidentified me. Oh, I called you a bitch. It you cry woman and I'm a man so you miss identified your bitch this is a total difference
Starting point is 00:08:28 continue on. Alright yes the later today house speaker Mike Johnson and committee chairs will continue conducting breakout sessions as Republicans look to package the Trump administration's top priorities in one single bill that covers immigration energy and all the things you know Trump just wants one single bill that covers immigration, energy, and all the things. You know, Trump just wants one single bill. But yesterday, Speaker Johnson addressed House GOP members ahead of President Trump, saying he feels like the U.S. is entering a new era of government.
Starting point is 00:08:53 He also expects the U.S. to handle deportation, flight negotiations, how they did over the weekend with Colombia. I'll get into that more, but let's hear from Speaker Johnson. When the president says he wants to make the government more efficient and effective and we say we want to limit the size and scope of government it means that everything is on the table for re-evaluation. President Trump will, you've seen, he will have a heavy hand and we will support him on that regardless of who stands up against it.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So in case you missed it, Columbia is sending two government planes to pick up migrants who were set to take military flights originally. Now there were some planes rejected in Colombia, in Mexico, with migrants on it and yeah Trump he was real in his head. He was like, oh nah. So basically this comes after the Columbia government and President Trump have agreed to terms to, after threatening tariffs, in a statement the White House said that the country agreed to terms that include the unrestricted acceptance of all illegal aliens from Colombia returned from the United States the statement also said that drafted actions on tariffs and sanctions would be held in reserve and
Starting point is 00:09:57 not signed unless Columbia fails to honor this agreement now Trump threatened retaliatory measures after Columbia first denied entry to those pair of US military deportation flights. So he started a trade war on day six. He sure did. And won though. He did win. He back down. He moving those migrants out and making sure that when they land, they can land. So that's the whole thing. So yeah. You know the interesting thing about this. Just remember everything Trump is doing, America gave him the power to do. He was voted in as president and he has full control of government, all three branches
Starting point is 00:10:30 of government. So everything he's doing, he pretty much has a constitutional right to do. Yes. And if not, then you know, it's a matter of precedent and figuring it out through the courts and all of these things. And by the time you probably get to an answer, well, his presidency may be over. So you know how the courts and all of these things and by the time you probably get to an answer well his presidency may be over so you know how the courts move. I don't know yesterday right that uh that House Republicans annual policy retreat he was talking about a third term. Yeah I heard him say something about that. And you know that's something we was talking about in 2016 if he got back in in 2020 he probably wouldn't leave. He ain't trying to leave.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And he didn't try to leave in 2020. It's not like he just walked out. Nah, you're right. He made that one thing called an insurrection on January 6th. That's right. I'm just saying that four years from now, don't just jump out the window and say, he's going to just walk out.
Starting point is 00:11:18 No. I don't know. We should take his jokes for real face value. Yeah. All right. So that's your front page news for 6 face value. Yeah. All right. So that's your front page news for 6 a.m. at 7 a.m. We'll continue to talk about the legislative session, immigration raids across the country
Starting point is 00:11:31 and more. All right. And shout and salute to everybody out in LA. We're still praying for you. I know you recently had the mudslides, but I heard this morning on the news that they actually allow people to go to their house today. Today is the first day that during the daylight hours They can actually go to whatever is left of their house
Starting point is 00:11:47 So they can go in and see if with their house is still up if they have anything Artifacts or anything like that. So again, we're always praying for our family on the West Coast. All right, get it off your chest 800-585-1051 if you need to vent phone lines are wide open again 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club, good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk. I hate the way that you dress. Everything with me is blessed. Call up now, 800-585-1051. Not just me, I'm what the coach will fill it. Hello, who's this? call up next 800-585-1051 Hello, who's this? Pepsi Joe, good morning DJNC Breakfast Club What's up Pepsi Joe, good morning, get it off your chest
Starting point is 00:12:32 I need to get it off my chest man, just trying to rent an apartment in New York City seems like a whole game I put all my stuff in storage, they want a credit check, I've provided everything and it still seems like I'm jumping the loops And I'm so tired of sleeping on couches man Yeah, New York City is when my daughter went to NYU It was so difficult to find her a place and find her a place that was pretty affordable because it's so expensive I would just advise bro. Why don't you go to the outer boroughs Jersey? Just you know take the path training I'm you know Queens or Brooklyn. I'm looking at like Westchester just cuz I'm gonna try to avoid all these tolls You know these New York empty tolls
Starting point is 00:13:08 Avoid all that just go. I'm trying to go Mount Vernon Yonkers You know anybody or anything any you can you recommend any realtor rep to both realtor? You know that can help me. I don't not Stand down now. I don't know anybody in those areas, but I would just say just keep looking brother But I know it's expensive, but they're saying the price is gonna start going down, but it's super duper expensive This is low inventory, but they're gonna Work you know yeah, I work every day. You know it's just a regular job You know I just drive trucks regularly like this is a theme for me to jump through this mini hoop
Starting point is 00:13:41 I've been waiting for only one two months now. It's like oh come on in New York We got to do better than this. I don't know how to help you Joe. I'm sorry. I appreciate it Thanks for hearing me out though Actually, you called us, but thank you bro answering you man. Hello, who's this? Yo, yo this big Mike from Chicago, how y'all doing Mike from shot town what up get it off your chest Hey, what's happening? Hey DJ if y'all wanted to say man, please tell Charlemagne to stop messing with you, bro You know what you know when you were in middle school and that girl hits you cuz they like you that's what it is Charlemagne just really likes me. He's really upset that I'm married and I'm not telling another grown man
Starting point is 00:14:21 It's I'm telling the truth cuz why is gay? I know executive order about this. No another grown man Are you gonna say anything else we just joke on each other blah blah blah You're trying to manifest He likes you. He's trying to manifest this. Hey yo. He got what you wanted, Big Mike. Hey y'all funny as hell, now I'm funny. Yeah, that's all I wanted, man.
Starting point is 00:14:49 But hey, hey, Solomon. Yes sir. Hey, stop that sissy stuff, man. For real, stop. This man just said he like me. You like me? And you want me to stop the sissy stuff. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:15:00 No kind of sissy's there. This man just literally told the world he likes me. He likes me. He wants to be with me. Boy, I gotta stop the sissy stuff. I said you to be with me, but I gotta stop this I say you want to be with me. Oh, did I yes, I did you do 800-585-1051 Just it's the breakfast logo morning the breakfast club This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051.
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Starting point is 00:15:42 I'm all right. Just had four McMuffins and three hash browns. God damn, you a baby big back too. Don't sound big. It don't, huh Jeff? What's up? Oh my goodness. This guy be in front of the radio station every day.
Starting point is 00:15:59 That's right. And he came, I did a book signing with Anita Kovacs last week for her new book to wind on her tongue and he pulled up. All right, what up Frosty, you good? Yeah, yeah, prediction, who do you think is gonna win, the Eagles or the Chiefs? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I wanna see the Chiefs get the three peep, but I wanna see Saquon Barkley get a ring, so it's both sides. I got, I don't have no money on it, but I'm going with the Eagles, so that means the Chiefs probably gonna win. I don't know. Who you got? I got mom. I don't have no money on it, but I'm going with the Eagles So that means the cheese probably going I don't know who you got Okay frosty what's that move you do when you see us in the morning like you put what's that thing you do put to your mouth
Starting point is 00:16:40 Okay, all right here right the head the hair motion that show them in legs. I knew does the basket weave does every time he sees And we can't forget that move clearly. Goodbye frosty put something up to your mouth Envy is gay on the brain. We'll see you not gonna listen this morning Turn the radio Who's this? Donald Trump, you know calling you guys we're talking about the celebrities leaving America okay yes many are leaving you know Rosie O'Donnell's leaving she says she's leaving because I was elected let me
Starting point is 00:17:15 tell you we're gonna put Rosie on the biggest boat the world has ever seen the Titanic and tip her off to China okay okay all right you know lots of people I can't believe you but quite frankly it's gonna be a great 2025 great 2025 but all these celebrities God you know quite frankly it's pretty good you said Kirk Franklin quite frankly I thought Kirk Franklin had faith in God. He can't just help him leave. Are you a comedian? Yeah, I do comedy here. Okay, how can people catch your comedy, brother? Instagram, at crazy AZ Canadian. Can you just say I'm Donald Trump and the only station I listen to is the Breakfast Club go I'm Donald Trump and the only
Starting point is 00:18:13 Breakfast Club Alright I guess he says stay black Why you looking at me like that? I'm just listening. I wonder what people think when they hear that. You know what I'm saying? Donald Trump calls the Brefs club and says that's the only station he listens to.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Well I'm not listening no more damn it. And I know that wasn't Godfrey. Godfrey be doing that in the comedian. Yeah, he can sound like anybody but he definitely can sound like Donald Trump Oh, yes. Well get it off your chest 800-585-1051 we got just with the mess coming up. What we talking about? Yo the Diddy documentary drop y'all watched it. No, no No, it's a bunch of them. I know What's new on this one we'll talk about it next don't go anywhere as the breakfast club the morning the breakfast club
Starting point is 00:19:07 yeah it's the world most dangerous morning show the breakfast club Charlamagne the god DJ envy around here somewhere they go Jeff hilarious and it's time for just what the best do no lying. She don't spell nobody. Worldwide Jess, worldwide method. On the Breakfast Club, she's a coacheship. She was able to get y'all to see something and understand something that nobody could get you to see. It's time to set it off. Okay, so I know nobody here watched the interview, but Lauren, so maybe you can Fill us in on the downfall of duty. I'd be premiered it yesterday yesterday last night Yeah, so the first one I text y'all to nobody watch it. No, no, all righty. It's already seven of them We are here now, okay, so downfall of duty
Starting point is 00:20:00 Premier on ID channel last night. It's a multi-part series that is like a docu-series. First two episodes dropped so they get into a ton of stuff. So the first episode kind of sets up like what created this like monster that they are trying to allege that Puff is. So they open it with makeup artists that used to work for Diddy and Cassie. And she details the first time she saw, she alleged she saw Puff put his hands on Cassie. Let's take a listen. Puff and Cassie were dating. There was a party,
Starting point is 00:20:33 and she was staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel. I fall asleep in the couch, because I don't go out. And he storms in, why the fuck is she? I like wake up all of a sudden, like who? And then they go into the room, shuts the f*** is she? I like wake up all of a sudden like, like who? And then they go into the room, shuts the door. All I hear is get the f*** out of here, get the f***
Starting point is 00:20:51 out of here. He's like on a rage. He's being puff. I'm packing her stuff up. Once he leaves, I see the aftermath on Cassie. She has knots on her head, bruised eye, busted lip. It was horrific. And so all I can think of was, we need to get back to my house. You need to get the out of here. We can't call the police. We can't go to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:21:15 We're scared of puff. Yeah, and those were like her account. So that makeup artist, she's speaking in the doc, but there were other accounts in different filings. And when that Cassie video came out, remember there was like the former security guard who came out and said, he allegedly saw like Puff and Cassie, Dawn Richards also recollected some things
Starting point is 00:21:35 when she came out with her filing as well too. So they reiterated that a lot in the doc, but they also talked a lot about Puff's upbringing and his mom and how he was raised trying to, I guess, make the point of this is how he ended up where he is now. Let's take a listen to Diddy's childhood friend. At an early age, it was instilled in him that he can't be seen as weak and the only way to respond to weakness or this idea that you're being perceived as weak is to respond with
Starting point is 00:22:02 force. My mother was, I guess, raising me for the real world. She's always told me if somebody hit me, make sure I hit them back harder. Make sure they never hit me again. Make sure I'll f*** them up. Mom's made sure, listen, don't come here talking about you got beat up.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Don't come here talking about somebody took something from you. I don't want to hear none of that. Go get it back. You can't come in my house until it's right. So you had to make a choice. You had to man up. So I'm going to make more than you. I'm going to hear none of that go get it back. You can't come in my house until it's right. So he had to make a choice. He had to man up. So I'm going to make more than you. I'm going to do more.
Starting point is 00:22:29 You don't want to be more successful than you. So I could call the shots. I know poor mom like boy, I wasn't talking about no damn women. Yeah. I think most parents tell their sons that like, if somebody punches you, you hit him back. They wouldn't, they not talk about the wife.
Starting point is 00:22:41 All the way wrong. Damn. They talk a lot in the doc too about like, in this part about how his mom, you know, like, I don't know how y'all parents raised y'all, but like, don't come back home. Somebody, don't come back home if you ain't win that fight. Like that type of vibe.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Not don't come back home cause this is my house, but yeah, I can, you gonna fight him. You gonna keep fighting. Don't run from a fight. Like if my father had me, like, no, you gonna go back until you beat him. Yeah, don't run from a fight, but if you lose, you lose, you get back up,
Starting point is 00:23:04 but yeah, you don't run from a fight. Yeah, you don't fight women No, but you don't know about women About women what I said that to say that they people off of the balconies on the guys I'm saying that to say that they like they're trying to pay him as it's like violent like person who doesn't understand when to stop and I think that the reason why they brought this up even though they don't say his mom told him to do that with Like they're trying to paint him as this like violent like person who doesn't understand when to stop. And I think that the reason why they brought this up, even though they don't say his mom told him to do that with women is because they're beginning to paint this picture that they go into a lot in part two about how because of who he grew to be like the big icon, the
Starting point is 00:23:37 big, you know what I mean? He just never knew when to stop. He got these allegedly he would get in these rages and that's when things would happen. Power power, a lot of power So another thing they talked about too was and this was after he had become like puff. He his star is growing He has some money now him and me so Hilton had some issues that People recollect in his doc to let's take a listen one night puffy Decided that he didn't want me so Hilton to go out. He got into this rage and
Starting point is 00:24:09 she decided that he didn't want Mr. Hilton to go out. He got into this rage and she screamed and her parents came out. He just grabbed the baby and said, you're not getting this baby, you're not having it. The father tried to talk to him and he didn't like being talked to. The grandmother tried to talk to him and everything. Eventually they had to call the police. Mr. Hilton, they have felt that something was really happening, that she had no control over her. This is her life.
Starting point is 00:24:30 He was using the baby to control her. That, I think, scared her a lot. He was just angry and upset. He made threats. You know, he was arrested. She was one of the few people who got to understand that type of rage, who he was. There was a monster that came out of him that nobody knew about. And I think that too, for a lot of people, when I saw that, I forget the guy's name,
Starting point is 00:24:58 but it was like a person that was around them for some years. Like this guy, he's, he's when you watch the doc, he's a guy with dresss. I'll go back and get his name for you. But he's in both parts of the docs and he was around from the time when Diddy was coming up to first deal with, with Uptown Records to everything. So he's in a doc a lot. But a big part of the conversation I saw when this part was happening was that Misa Hilton, you know, during all the time when the conversations first started around Puff, she was online and she was recollecting a lot of her times with him and raising kids with him.
Starting point is 00:25:31 And she had asked the question at one point in time when she posted this stuff, like, were you not entertained? And I think a lot of people were saying that whether this happened or not, the conversation has always been the women that he's had kids with, what have they had to deal with and how do they deal with that? And people were basically saying like they feel bad for her because she had to deal with so much so early because they were so young. Yeah, I don't know what's true and what's not true. I know Diddy isn't getting any benefit of the doubt when it comes to putting hands on women because of the video we saw in the hotel. Yeah, but I also wonder like, I mean, these people are telling these other people stories.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I wonder how they feel, right? I wonder if Misa wanted to tell her own story, if she wanted this out, however, she wanted, or even Cassie, if Cassie wanted her stories out. It's always hard to hear other people tell other people's stories when they're alive. Not if that person was a witness. If that person was a witness, that's their story too. If it's true. Hey, it's Mike and Ian. We're the hosts of How to Do Everything from NPR's Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.
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Starting point is 00:29:23 deadly is distracted driving eyes forward Don't drive distracted brought to you by NHTSA and the ad council If it's true, yeah, I think too because I know what Mesa was posting stuff online It could have been a thing of Shane want to be in the documentary, but she you know gave the okay Are you you can talk about this situation that you was there for whatever? Maybe they want to hear it cuz they want to be traumatized The guy's name is Peter Noel. He's an investigative journalist That's who was talking about Misa
Starting point is 00:29:50 but he's used a lot in the doc along with other journalists because these are journalists that were like around and like reporting on these things and There was like a 9-1-1 call that he talked about with Misa when she actually had to call the police in that situation So he details all of that But I was gonna say to your point, Jess, when Misa was posting all that stuff on Instagram, it was seeming to me as if she wanted to tell her own side of things the way she wanted it to be told.
Starting point is 00:30:12 But she's never been a part of any of these docs and I don't think that we'll ever see her do that. I know one thing, all these documentaries are gonna absolutely impact Diddy's trial. Okay, I refuse to believe that a juror won't be swayed by what they hear in the court of public opinion with all of these stories It's 19 documentaries. I like they're gonna see wonderful. You're gonna see a
Starting point is 00:30:28 Little bit of it online. Are you gonna see 50 cent Instagram something? Yeah, well there's two parts and I think there's a few more coming so And this is not the 50 cent documentary, correct? No, no, no, this is the invest. No, this is the ID. There's a lot of 50 cent documentary correct no no no this is the best no this is the ID there's a lot of channel you know there's not 50 documentary because uh ain't no ain't no male victims in it right i have not heard from a male victim it's gonna be a lot of butt touching the 50s documentary i'm telling you right now when 50 do his uh his ditty documentary it's gonna be a lot of male victims i'm letting you know that right now okay all right all right well thank you i heard he was gonna name it i heard puffy touched your butt but that's too long the title that's crazy
Starting point is 00:31:07 yeah I heard puffy touched your butt that's what 50 was gonna name it you ain't heard that I got sources too Lauren I know you got the butt sources we know I do butt dials that's how I get that kind of information oh my god all right thank you for Jess with the mess now when we come back we got front page news. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake up. Wake up. You're locked into the Breakfast Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Good morning Morgan.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Good morning NV, Charlamagne and Jess. Good to see y'all. Hey girl. Yeah. Alright, so let's get Good morning, N.V. Gural. Yeah. All right, so let's get into it. Immigration raids, as you guys have mentioned, we've all been talking about it. They are taking place all around the country. The Trump administration has launched a social media thread showcasing what it calls, quote, the worst criminals arrested by immigration and customs enforcement since the president's inauguration.
Starting point is 00:32:02 The White House NX thread reads that President Trump's leadership ICE agents are working tirelessly to protect our communities. ICE reported more than 950 people were arrested nationwide just yesterday alone. The agency also said it has started what is called target, it's calling targeted operations in Chicago. So Chicago, look out.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Florida lawmakers are meeting are still meeting in committees today after calling their own special session to deal with immigration policies aligned with President Trump. Senate President Ben Albritton says he doesn't support Florida Governor Ron DeSantis' proposal to create criminal penalties against law enforcement. Let's hear from Senate President,
Starting point is 00:32:44 Florida Senate President Al Britton. President Trump clearly has a situation under control and is leading from the Oval Office. I want to be careful that we don't do anything to undermine President Trump's very good plan. I won't stand for that. I want criminal illegal immigrants to be deported efficiently and effectively. And the best way to do that is to follow the leadership of President Trump. So Florida House Speaker Daniel Perez entered the chat
Starting point is 00:33:09 and he called for the governor's proclamation too narrow and saying many of his policies or proposals are bureaucratic. Now he's calling on a second special session to deal with the proposed immigration policy. Let's hear from Florida House Speaker Daniel Perez. We do not need to duplicate the functions of U.S. immigration and customs and create a mini version of ICE. We have chosen to designate the commissioner of agriculture to serve as
Starting point is 00:33:35 as the state's chief immigration officer. We will create more badges, detain more bad guys and provide more beds. So, as mentioned in that audio, both the House House and Senate have agreed that the agriculture commissioner who is Wilton Simpson in Florida will be the state's chief immigration officer. I find that to be a little more of it a little weird, but you know, agriculture commissioner, chief immigration officer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:58 So that's happening in Florida. Meanwhile, in elsewhere in politics, President Trump signed three executive orders yesterday to aim to reshape the nation's military. That's according to multiple reports. One of those orders will reportedly include reinstating service members with back pay for those who were discharged for refusing to take the COVID-19 vaccine. Another will ban transgender service members from serving in the US Armed Forces, while a third will ban any adverse diversity related programs in the military, no DEI in the U.S. Armed Forces, while a third will ban any diversity-related
Starting point is 00:34:26 programs in the military, no DEI in the military anymore. So Trump first banned transgender Americans from serving in Armed Forces back in 2017 during his first administration and will undo former President Biden's repeal that was issued in 2021 to combat that 2017. Elsewhere, Senator Lindsey Graham, he's talking about the January 6ers and Trump's pardon of them. He says he doesn't approve of President Trump's decision to pardon those who participated in the January 6th riot.
Starting point is 00:34:56 The South Carolina Republican told CNN's State of the Union over the weekend, he's a firm backer of the president, but he doesn't think it's acceptable to pardon criminals who assaulted police officers. Let's hear more from Lindsey Graham. I don't like this. I don't like it on either side. And I think the public doesn't like it either. I've always said that I think when you pardon people who attack police officers, you're sending the wrong signal to the public at large.
Starting point is 00:35:19 If this continues, if this is the norm, then there'd be an effort to rein in the pardon power of the president as an institution. Re reign in the pardon power of the president as an institution Reign in the pardon power of the president He went on to criticize former president Biden for pardoning his son hunter and commuting the sentence of Leonard Peltier who was convicted of killing two FBI agents in 1975. So yeah, these are things We'll continue to watch and see as we as our nation shapes up I want to do that I wonder how you really the pardon powers of the president because you know like I was saying earlier like you know
Starting point is 00:35:47 Donald Trump literally is doing everything that he has the power to do like these things aren't illegal he's the president of the United States of America. Do you limit the amount of people he can pardon because I've never seen like usually you hear when a president leaves he pardons a couple of people usually hear about it but I've never heard anything like this like it just seems like they just parted anybody for anything I don't even know if it's about the limit I just think it's about I think things should be on a case-by-case basis who yeah exactly like
Starting point is 00:36:12 yeah yeah yeah for sure um well okay bringing things home to you guys in New York New York City Mayor Eric Adams he won't appear in federal court tomorrow Adams is scheduled to have a federal court appearance and it's been waived as the mayor reportedly undergoes several doctor's appointments. The spokesman for the mayor says Adams hasn't been feeling well in recent days and is undergoing numerous medical tests and doctor's appointments this week. He has canceled nearly all of his public appearances, including his weekly scheduled news conference with reporters.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Now, that has public advocate Jumane Williams concerned because under law he'd take over for Adams if Adams could not perform his duties, but he hasn't heard anything from the mayor's staff. Let's hear quickly from public advocate Jumane Williams. I would say just in terms of providing confidence for New York City, that might be better to have that communication. So he says, you know, you know, right now, I want to make sure we're portraying as much confidence as possible in city government. I would say if it was me, I think the communication would be a little better just to make sure
Starting point is 00:37:15 we're pushing that confidence. But again, they can handle this, you know, a supervisor to handle how best they can and make sure that they are portraying that we are all wishing for the mayor to be well as soon as possible. So this is interesting because this brings about the question of transparency in government. You know, City Hall isn't explained what's going on with Mayor Adams, other than the fact that he's just not feeling his best. best do you think that do you think that public officials and depending on what capacity they are in do you think they should be transparent in terms of their health issues? Yeah especially if it prevents them from doing their job. Yeah I absolutely positively think so yeah especially if they're missing advance and missing
Starting point is 00:37:57 appearances yeah absolutely. So the mayor's team is reassuring the public that Adams is in constant communication with his staff to ensure city business continues. But that also concerns me because the dude who the backup has already come out to say, I ain't heard from him. So just to give you guys a heads up in New York. That's something that we will continue to watch. And of course, we're wishing Mayor Adams well wishes as well. We don't want to see him sick or you know down and out. So but that's your front page news. I'm Morgan Wood. Follow me on social at social at Morgan media and for more news coverage follow me at or follow at black information network Download the free I heart radio app and visit us at BIN news.com. Thank y'all
Starting point is 00:38:34 Morgan later Morgan. All right when we come back we have Vivek Ramaswamy. He'll be joining us this morning You know Vivek was a part of Doge Doge was a new administration a new over Vic was a part of Doge. Doge was a new government agency. Department of Government Efficiency. That's right. It was a new government agency formed by Donald Trump for the Trump administration. It was him and Elon Musk. But Vic either left or got pushed out. And we're going to talk to him next. We're going to find out which one. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:38:58 The Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Naga, we are the Breakfast Club, Laurel and Rosa filling in for Jess and we got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. Vivic Ram Swami, welcome. How you doing man? How you feeling? All good, you're doing well.
Starting point is 00:39:16 This is your first interview in what you said like a month? Yeah, I've been, I've been, I've been, you know, a lot going on but I haven't been out on media but you know, people are going to be hearing more from me. Starting now, why not? You called me over the weekend. I told you I happened to be in the city. So this worked out well. Well, tell us Vivek, what happened with Doge?
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah, so- Well, congratulations on the job. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Well, you don't have it anymore. It's not my job right now. Oh, okay, I'm sorry. I'll take that back then.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I'm moving on to my next frontier. Did you get pushed out? Did you get fired? Did you leave? No, it was a slightly different vision from where we started to where we landed. And it's not that it's, you know, one's right or wrong. But if you take a look at where we began, right, Doge is going to be an outside body to the government. One of my core areas of focus throughout has been the constitutional and legal basis for shutting down the bureaucracy and the federal government and downsizing it. That's what I focus written my books on, etc. It evolved in more of a direction
Starting point is 00:40:08 of a technology project using a technology first approach and so Elon and I were in good terms. We have good personal relationship, slightly different approaches to the project and what he and I both concluded and I think this is right is given my focus on law, on legislation, the right way to realize my vision is through elected office. And so that's what I'm going to be pursuing. We have an announcement probably coming up in the next month, but that's my next path.
Starting point is 00:40:31 The governor of Ohio, we heard about that. Yeah, we heard about it. Coming up soon. But that was where we all landed. Was the right way to do this for me was, if I'm focused on constitutional law, deregulation, legislation to downsize government, that's been my vision for a long time.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Let me realize that on my own two feet through elected office. At the same time, I'm happy to have helped over the last couple of months to be able to get, get this off the ground and a technology first approach from within the government now it's not outside the government, it made all the sense in the world to make this the time that we went separate ways. So it was true. There was an exclusive report in the Washington Post that said you were pushed out because your vision didn't align with Elon's.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I would say that we arrived at it pretty mutually. I mean, I think when it came that Doge was in the government, so there's actually a law, it's called the Hatch Act, it's boring stuff, but you literally can't run for office while you are an employee of the government unless you're the president or vice president. I've been committed to this path of likely running for governor of Ohio for a long
Starting point is 00:41:26 time. My plan initially might've been to do those at the same time. Once it became clear that was impossible to do at the same time. Once it became clear to me that that was the right next leadership destination for me, felt like the start of the project on day one was the right way to start that next chapter. That's why we did it. Now you did say the last couple of months you've been focused on getting Trump in office. So now that he's in office and we've seen the last couple of days,
Starting point is 00:41:49 what are your thoughts and do you still stand by it? Everything that he's done? You know, I really think he's off to a pretty good start. I mean, you think about most presidents, they take a little bit of time to get warmed up. He didn't go through the warmup phase. He got started right away. And I think there's a reason for that, which is very few presidents have actually been the president before. And then they come all the way back. Then Grover Cleveland was the only one other one who did it. So he in some ways is coming in for a second term,
Starting point is 00:42:13 but actually do think those four years of being able to reflect on what actually mattered to him were actually pretty good. So I like, I like a lot of what we've seen in that first week, unleash energy production. That's going to bring down energy prices. It's going to stimulate the economy. A lot of the regulatory and red tape rollback. I think it's just a good thing for the country. If you travel the country and you ask most Americans, do you think there's too much red tape or do you think there's too little red tape? I don't think there's anybody who would tell you that. I think there's too little red tape. I think there's a lot of people, especially business owners, small
Starting point is 00:42:42 business owners, that tell you there's too much red tape. Trump has gone pretty aggressive even in the first week and saying we're rolling back a lot of those regulations. We're rolling back the regulations that hold back energy production in the United States, getting very serious about the border. And, you know, I mean, I think that you can have your debates about what the legal immigration policy in the U.S. should look like. But I think most people are united that we don't want an open southern border. And yet functionally, that's what it's been for much of the
Starting point is 00:43:05 last four years. So I think it's been a lot of pretty good moves out the gate. How is eliminating government diversity programs like DEI beneficial to anybody other than straight white males? Oh, I think, I think there are some ways in which it's not even beneficial to straight white males, which I'll tell you about in a second. But I think this culture of reviving merit in the country is a very American idea. You and I have talked about this in some of our discussions here in the past, I think, is America is a country where you are not judged on the color of your skin. You ought to be judged on the content of your character and your contributions.
Starting point is 00:43:36 The best person ought to get the job, regardless of their genetics. That's America at its best. We haven't always been that. You could argue that we've never actually been that perfectly. We're an imperfect nation because we're comprised of human beings and not gods. But I do think it is a step forward to say that after we've turned the page on 160 years ago and then 60 years ago with the Civil Rights Revolution, after we've made all the progress we have, now's the time not to engage in blaming for the past or
Starting point is 00:44:01 whatever. We haven't been perfect. But to move forward to say we're a country where we want the best person to get the job without regard to their skin color or their sexuality or their race. And the only thing I would tell you that you might be interested in for the angle you mentioned is,
Starting point is 00:44:15 I also think there has been a culture emerging in the last few years, a culture of excuses amongst people who say, oh, I didn't get that job because of DEI. And in certain cases, that may be true, that certain people, maybe white male was denied a job because somebody else got the job because of racial or gender preferences. But there's also a lot of instances in which that provides somebody else a new excuse. And I just want to know excuses culture across the board where one of the side effects of ending DEI is that nobody's going to
Starting point is 00:44:42 have excuses anymore for why they didn't get that job either. So I just think merit across the board is the way to go. But do you trust people though? Like do you trust people enough to say hey you know what I'm not going to be prejudiced against this person because of their identity? I mean we all have it. Let me say something we all have our innate biases right? We're human beings. As I said we're human beings we're not gods we're flawed and people have their innate biases. But the question is, is there a perfect system? No, there's not.
Starting point is 00:45:08 But what's the least imperfect system? And I think the least imperfect system is one where we aspire to at least think of our country through the lens of merit. You don't think DEI was a way to get there? You don't think that? I think it has proven not to be the way to get there. I've obviously been an opponent of it for four or five years, so I'm obviously going to have biased views on this from where I sit.
Starting point is 00:45:28 But what is it exactly? The policy, because you need diversity to get there. You need equity to get there. You need inclusion to get there. Yes. So I think part of what happened is when you, when you started using the capital D capital E capital I, here's what happened is, I think in the name of diversity of thought, right? Cause that's where you want diversity of thought in an organization, the capital D diversity actually ended up saying that certain viewpoints aren't welcome, that we actually sacrificed true diversity of thought. In the name of equity, which is measured in terms
Starting point is 00:45:56 of outcomes, I think we actually sacrificed true equality of opportunity. And then as a certain place, and this is really where it took a dark turn to me is in the name of inclusion, we created a culture of exclusion where certain viewpoints were not welcome in an organization. And what that does is it causes the bottled up emotion to fester. Okay, that doesn't lead to good places. When you tell somebody, shut up, sit down, do as you're told, keep your views to yourself. That actually fosters resentment. And the weirdest thing I think has happened in the last few years And I do actually blame a lot of the DEI and related policies for this is that we have seen a Reactionary wave of racism in the country anti minority racism that would not have existed
Starting point is 00:46:37 But for that DEI culture of not only taking something away from somebody based on their skin color But even worse in the name of inclusion saying that you can't express your view. But why would you have a conversation about equal opportunity if they don't even want to have a conversation about diversity, equity and inclusion? You get what I'm saying? Like, I understand where you're trying to go with it, but you can't have one without the other, I think is the point. And how do you do that? It seems like that's your disconnect even with Doge, right? No, I think a couple different, couple different topics there. Look, are we a country where we want equal opportunity for every person to
Starting point is 00:47:05 achieve the maximum of their God given potential? Yes, we do. Are we perfect in realizing that? No, we're not. Do we think that group quota systems are the right way to achieve that? I'm of the view the answer is no. And I think the last few years show us that it hasn't even been effective in actually empowering the people that was supposed to empower while it's created resentment of a lot of the people who felt deprived. So I think we just got to disagree with that last one. We just got to go to post, we got to go to post DI world. That ship in my
Starting point is 00:47:32 opinion for the better maybe in other people's opinion for the worse that ship has sailed. Now let's look to the future and say what does equal opportunity actually look like? All right we got more with V.V. Gramaswamy when we come back don't move it's the Breakfast Club good morning. Morning everybody it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club Lauren LaRosa is here with us as well we're still kicking it with V. Vik Ramaswamy. Now I got a question what were your thoughts on and you claim to be an honest person when Donald Trump signed off on the people that tried to overthrow the government.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Signed off pardoned them pardoned them. Here's my view is. And then I want to ask you what did you think when Joe Biden pardoned, you know his son and his family members as well? So let's start with with Trump. So here's my view they tried to overthrow the government, which is totally against law So I think that there were many people there's a rabbit hole We could have an hour on this and I don't really think it's even all that relevant anymore There were a lot of people who didn't do a thing that was wrong that ended up being ensnared in getting locked up,
Starting point is 00:48:29 getting prosecuted for peacefully without any weapons, exercising their first amendment rights. And as a country, we're a country that celebrates political dissent and opposition, people who never entered the Capitol, people who never heard anybody, people who were unarmed walking on the Capitol grounds. And it was just sloppy the way the whole thing was actually handled. Peaceful protesters. Yeah, and I think that those kind of peaceful protesters, the fact that they were ensnared and had their due process rights denied is an affront.
Starting point is 00:48:54 And I say that as somebody who, I'm a civil libertarian, I believe the same is true for left-wing protesters, I think the same thing has been true for civil rights protesters 60 years ago, I think the same thing was true for peaceful protesters on January 6th. Now the other side. So then when you look at it holistically, right? It was so messy in the way that it was handled. There were so many also unanswered questions and some stuff that didn't smell great.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Like if you look at the first thing that came out from the Inspector General's report, only came out a few weeks, a couple of weeks before Trump took office, how many FBI informants and affiliated people were in that audience. It didn't smell good. And that came out, if you said that two years ago, that was considered a bad conspiracy theory. But now they came out with the inspector general report saying that they weren't transparent with the public. There was enough that
Starting point is 00:49:38 the government did that smelled rotten there, that in the interest of just turning the page, you know what I think would have been the best outcome for the country? I said this before Biden left office. I think if Joe Biden had not pardoned his family member, but had pardoned the January 6 protesters in one of his final acts, to say that I've been critical of this, but in the interest of moving the country forward as I'm leaving the office, I'm turning the page and looking to the future, and then Donald Trump takes office and pardons the Biden family for any alleged offenses, that would have been, I think, the best case scenario for the office. I'm turning the page and looking to the future. And then Donald Trump takes office and pardons the Biden family for any alleged offenses. That would have been, I think, the best case scenario for the country. Yeah, but all the generals, people weren't protesters. Some of them weren't insurrectionists.
Starting point is 00:50:12 And I mean, there's actual people who are denying pardons because they said, no, we committed a crime. Yes, there was a woman who did a whole sit-down interview and said, we did really horrible things. People died. I heard her. I heard her interview. And so to that you will say, but there were people who were peaceful. I watched it. Peaceful. But then we seen people that have the gates ran up in there running in people's offices. We see them as well. I think JD Vance had the best reason that when JD Vance said, and this is before part of Trump did the pardons,
Starting point is 00:50:35 he said that we're going to look at everything. We're not going to pardon all the January 6th insurrectionists. We're going to look at it on a case by case. He's a case by case. You see who needs to be pardoned and who doesn't. And that's what I, that's what I had said for the last couple of years as well. I do think that when we're also moving quickly with respect to Trump talking about a new golden age for the country, that's what we all want, right?
Starting point is 00:50:54 We want a country where the issues we're focused on is what affects people in their everyday lives, the conversation about lifting people up economically and educationally. I think it is in that spirit to say that we're just turning the page and moving the nation forward. I understand the decision to do it not on a case-by-case basis, but on a blanket basis. I understand where it's coming from. Somebody's coming from actual criminals. One of the guys got out and went right back to jail. Just by definition, just so we're talking about the same thing, by definition, anybody who gets a pardon is getting a pardon, many of them. Anybody who gets a pardon after a conviction means they were convicted.
Starting point is 00:51:25 So there are hundreds of presidential pardons. Biden issued more pardons than any president has in his final month leaving office. Every president issues pardons. But part of the reason the president has a pardon power is the job of the president is actually to look after the country. The job of a jury and a judge in a case is to look after that individual case. But a president is a steward of a country, and to say what's in the best overall interest of the country, that's why the president has a pardon power. So everybody who a president has ever pardoned is by definition a criminal. The question is, even in the face of somebody being a criminal by definition of having committed
Starting point is 00:51:56 some crime, take a big step back and say notwithstanding that, is it in the interest of a nation to be able to pardon that person and move forward that's the judgment that belongs on a president's shoulders. Well let's talk about the forward stuff. Like how do you, how do you advocate for ending birthright citizenship when both your parents were illegal and non-citizens? Were legal. They were legal. They were legal.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Yeah. So they were non-citizens though. That's right. That's right. When they came to country. Yeah. So my view, and I've been pretty consistent on this, is that birthright citizenship should not be granted to the kids of illegals in this country. Yeah. So my view, and I've been pretty consistent on this, is that birthright citizenship should not be granted to the kids of illegals in this country.
Starting point is 00:52:28 What does birthright citizenship mean? Just to get everyone on the same page. It means if you're physically born in the country, you're automatically a citizen. And that's been part of the longstanding tradition of the country within certain guardrails. contests. Let's say you're the kid of a Mexican diplomat. Right. So this guy who's legally physically in the country, but he is the ambassador from Mexico or Panama or whatever country to the US. They happen to have a baby while they're here. Is that baby a citizen of the United States? Nobody thinks the answer to that is yes. If you're a diplomat from Mexico or a government official from another country, but physically the baby happens to be born here,
Starting point is 00:53:00 you're still a citizen of another country and goes to the 14th amendment. It says, are you subject to the laws and jurisdiction thereof? Then you're a citizen. That's what it says. So by similar analogy, if somebody who's an ambassador from Mexico or is in this country legally, but doesn't enjoy birthright citizenship because they're still subject to the laws and jurisdiction of the other country, then the question is, if somebody entered this country illegal, or let's just say, take another one, if somebody's a foreign invader to the country,
Starting point is 00:53:23 right, let's say you have a foreign invasion of the country, but includes a pregnant woman and she happens you have a foreign invasion of the country, but includes a pregnant woman and she happens to have a baby here. Nobody thinks that baby enjoys birthright citizenship. So then the question is, if somebody broke the law when entering the country, right, that their act of entering the country
Starting point is 00:53:35 was a violation of our laws, are they really subject to the jurisdiction and law in the same way? If they have their kid in the country, that kid does not automatically enjoy birthright citizenship. That's been my position. I think it's a reasonable position. Well, why is it that moving forward you would want an administration to pick and choose like when they give opportunities like so for instance, like what if I'm here legally,
Starting point is 00:53:55 I have my kid. Here legally. No, I'm here. Illegally. Okay. Yeah. Hypothetically, if I'm here illegally, right? I did whatever I had to do to get here just because of whatever my circumstances are. I'm not committing crimes while I'm here. I'm working the best I can just trying to raise my kid. My kid is doing amazing.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I'm providing a better life. And then all of a sudden now, because Trump is in office, it's like, no, my kid has to go back to whatever circumstances we came from, not too much set up because they're no longer a citizen. Right? So one of the things, if you look at President Trump's recent commentary in some of his interviews, even leading up to taking office, he himself has drawn a distinction between people who have been here for a really long time and established roots versus people who have come super recently to
Starting point is 00:54:32 the country right in the dreamers program you talked about how people have been here for a long time we could have our own debates about what my own views even are on that but let's just take start with the easy low-hanging fruit if somebody commits a crime while they're here and they entered illegally should they be automatically before yes And then we just go straight down the list. We're not going to argue that point because that's like, that's kind of like that's a lot of people. That's an easy point though. I know. I think where I'm getting confused
Starting point is 00:54:52 with you is like you kind of if it's a few years, I would say the same thing. So if somebody's come here and it hasn't been that long. So we're talking about double digit millions of people who have come here illegally under Biden's tenure. Those people have not established roots in the United States. Right. Those people should have followed a different route. And by the way, there are millions more who did not come here illegally because they were trying to do it the right way. They're the ones we kept out
Starting point is 00:55:13 and the ones who lied or broke the rules are the ones who we let in. That's not right. So I think that sending all of the people who at least entered illegally under Biden's tenure, just recently, even if it's just taking the last two years, that is millions of people. So even if we just said over the last 18 months the people who entered this country illegally have to go back to their country of origin, they haven't established roots in 18 months. That
Starting point is 00:55:33 alone would be the largest mass deportation in American history. Now you want to go beyond that we could argue the details, but that alone is the literally the largest mass deportation in American history and I think most people are in favor of it to say that that's fair. So why house Republicans are divided on this because it seems weird that you would want to Fight the in birthright citizenship now, especially when you've made so many scribes of Hispanic voters So I'm not following when necessarily what the house Republicans are divided on per se but what I will tell you is I think most People if explained right because I think the problem with this is it can become a pretty emotional conversation If you just objectively look at the low hanging fruit
Starting point is 00:56:07 that we all agree with, that's actually pretty far from where we are today. If you look at somebody who entered this country illegally, does their kid automatically get birthright citizenship? Going forward, we can't even change the past, right? Because those were the rules of the past. But at least going forward, we will say, that anybody new who enters the country illegally
Starting point is 00:56:24 and has a kid here, that kid does not automatically enjoy birthright citizenship I think is a very reasonable position. Alright we got more with Vivek Ramaswamy when we come back don't move it's the Breakfast Club good morning. Morning everybody is DJ NV Jess Hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club, Lauren LaRosa is here with us as well we're still kicking it with Vivek Ramaswamy Charlamagne. What did Trump say when you told him you wanted to leave? It was a pretty good mutual discussion.
Starting point is 00:56:47 He was very supportive. I think Donald Trump and I, we built a good relationship since I left the race. For me, I've always been somebody who I need to stand for my own vision for the country. I'm at my best when I'm standing for my vision for the future. I'm excited for that. Donald Trump was super supportive of that. We had a good time at the inauguration together and I think we're gonna be working together Informally for a long time to come one of the executive orders that happened
Starting point is 00:57:11 You know was Doge was rebranded as the US digital Yeah, service which was an Obama era group which is basically created to keep the manager affordable care acts website But now it determines best practices for the government's use of technology. That wasn't your initial vision. So look, there were a couple different visions in approach and I will say that Elon in taking a technology first approach, he's the best person to take that technology first approach, no doubt about it. You know, what I've always been drawn to in my books and a lot of the articles I've written in my own campaign for president, a lot of my focus has been on using the constitutional landscape and using the legislative landscape to bring
Starting point is 00:57:49 down spending to curb regulations. I think the best way to do that is from the perch of elected office. And I think that when you think about who's going to drive change through technology in the government, nobody better than Elon to do that. How is the Trump administration going to reduce food prices when they're deporting the people who are picking the food? Because he said first day out and we didn't see no prices drop yet. Well come on, it's been a couple weeks. It's not even a couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:58:13 But they're deporting the people who are actually picking the food. Well I mean deporting the people. Well maybe we should have a system, I think you would agree with me on this, maybe we should have a system where the people who are picking our food or Hey it's Mike and Ian. We're the hosts of How to Do Everything from NPR's Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Each week, we take your questions and find someone much smarter than us to answer them. Questions like, how do you survive the Bermuda Triangle? How do you find a date inside the Bermuda Triangle? We can't help you, but we will find someone who can. Listen to the How to Do Everything podcast on iHeartRadio.
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Starting point is 01:00:49 Hey y'all, this is Reed from the God's Country podcast. We had the one and only Bobby Bones in the studio this week, and we cover everything from his upbringing to his outdoor experiences with his stepdad Arkansas Keith to the state of country music. We may even end the episode with a little jam session led by Bobby himself. Y'all be sure and listen to this episode of God's Country with Bobby Bones on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Don't go shopping to Target
Starting point is 01:01:18 with khaki pants and a red shirt on. Don't go shopping to Target with khaki pants and a red polo shirt on. Don't go shopping at Target with khaki pants and a red polo shirt on. That's what you have songwriting. Oh, that's good. That's, that's, that's, that's, yeah. An old lady came up to me. She said, how much for this cream of wheat?
Starting point is 01:01:37 People who are in our food supply chain were not people who entered the country illegally, but actually fostered both American born and a proper legal immigration system to staff that in a way that isn't illegal. That's a separate question. You say you wanted to deport 20 million people and there's only 14 million people living in the country illegally. What else are you getting rid of? Let's, let's, let's just talk about bringing down food prices for a second.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Cause I think it's an important point. I would also add to the list, by the way, housing prices, I would add to the list, energy prices, especially electricity costs. I would add insurance costs. How things are going gonna be tough? Insurance costs? Get tax on everything. Well, here's the number one way to do it. Increase the supply of everything.
Starting point is 01:02:11 That's the laws of supply and demand. If you have constricted supply, you have higher prices. If you have more supply, prices come down. And one of the easiest things that we're able to do in all of those areas, housing, food, energy, you bring down the regulatory barrier to producing more of it, that is automatically going to bring prices down. That's at least the first and easiest step we can take.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Some of this is at the federal level, but keep in mind, not all of this is stuff that Donald Trump can do. Some of this is a lot of this is actually at the state level too. I mean, you think about most of the regulations that stop people from producing food, most of the regulations that stop people from producing food, most of the regulations that stop people from building new houses, including manufactured homes, which I think is actually an innovative area for the future. You think about even a lot of the restrictions
Starting point is 01:02:53 on energy production, nuclear energy included. A lot of that is at the state level, which is part of why in my own reflection, right, thinking about having an impact on the country, you want, if you're doing this public service thing, yeah, I have to tell you there's a lot about it that isn't super pleasant at all times. So if you're going to do it, you might as well have the biggest possible impact you can have. And the way I look at it is Donald Trump, he's got it covered at the federal level. I'm rooting for success and I expect success, but it's not going to be a one-man show. At the end of
Starting point is 01:03:19 the day, you got 50 states that have also have to tackle these very same problems. And especially when it's questions of affordability questions relating to education education is all driven by the states I think the states is where it's at in terms of actually the need to drive real change and so I've set my sights accordingly and I will try to yeah I've tried to stand I'm gonna hopefully stay true to not just talking about this stuff but to actually translate it to action and I do think that this is a lot of the issues we're talking about, bringing down housing costs, that is not a partisan issue.
Starting point is 01:03:47 There are a lot of Republicans who are pissed off about high housing costs. A lot of Democrats who were pissed off about high housing costs. And it is not a nature made problem. It's not a law of physics. It is a manmade problem and a manmade problem has a manmade solution. And Donald Trump can set the tone, but those regulations, most of them are actually at the state level. Same thing with respect to education, determining whether or not that poor young kid in the
Starting point is 01:04:08 inner city, black, Hispanic or white, can go to an actual good school isn't determined by the federal government, it's determined by actually those state laws. Same thing with respect to food restrictions, the constraints on nuclear energy production. A lot of those are at the state level and so I'm actually excited about making sure that we're not just looking at this as a one size fits all solution. I supported Donald Trump pretty heavily. I dedicated a significant part of my last year to getting him elected because I thought
Starting point is 01:04:33 he would restore that sense of spine, that sense of greatness to America. But it's never a one man show. It's never one man coming down from the White House to save us. It's never been that way. In fact, our founders envisioned this system of federalism to be led by the state's bottom up as well. And so I'm excited for both of those to work in the next couple of years.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Do you think you will push out of those because Trump rolled back the DEI initiatives? No, to the contrary. And I would say just to be super clear about it, I have no problem with framing or whatever. It was really just an actual mutual decision where you look at, here was one vision on approach, here's a different vision on an approach, that's great, there's no right or wrong answer.
Starting point is 01:05:12 With a technology driven approach and a technology first approach, there's no better person than Elon to run with that. With a constitutional law focus, with a legislation focus, some of the areas I was focused on, probably the right place to do it is elected office. And so we all agreed on that. And I think that that's actually a good thing where we're able to, where we're actually able to collaborate, divide and conquer. I hear you, Vivek.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Yeah, I don't believe you. Oh, that's fair enough. I think you either got pushed out or you know that it's going to implode. I think that you know Elon is going to crash and burn it and you're a smart guy and you said, you know what, let me get out of Dodge and go do my governor Ohio thing. So look I knew that the right step for me in the long run is elected office and to pursue the vision that we're talking about here to actually translate that action in my own terms. That's what I've been called to do. It was clear that I could not do that and serve on Doge at the same time even for logistical, it came to be in the government rather than an outside body.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I was proud to be able to spend the first couple of months offering my contributions and setting it in the right direction. With its focus now, with its digital technology focus, no better person to do that than Elon in the way that he's gonna lead it. And I am hopeful that there's gonna be a lot of streamlining of government bureaucracy
Starting point is 01:06:24 that comes out of that. And I'm pursuing my next steps at the state level. Are they going to endorse you? Is Elon going to endorse you? Is Trump going to endorse you? We're on, we're all on very good terms and so I wouldn't want to speak for anybody else but I will say that they're very supportive of the decision that I made to pursue my next step. Gotcha. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Alright. We appreciate you guys. I'm glad you hit me up over the weekend. I cannot wait until you unhitch your horse from this MAGA wagon. And you can really talk. I got my horse hitched to one wagon and I'm not being corny about it. I really mean it. It is the America wagon. I love this country and I will, you know what? I would rather fight to this country for the principles I believe in and stand for and lose than to win by checking some
Starting point is 01:07:04 box along the way. And this next step for me I think is gonna be it's gonna be really good. Hey Grandma Swami. Good luck in Ohio and how you gonna take care of our Haitian family over there that you know Trump said we... I visited a number of them in in Springfield and I think that I spent a lot of time in Springfield growing up actually. Did you have dinner with any of them? No we did not. We hung out. It was the daytime where we hung out.
Starting point is 01:07:28 But I would say that it's understandable where you have a tiny community that is really small population in Springfield that has had its population dramatically transformed. I don't blame anybody. That's what I said when I went and visited Springfield. I don't blame anybody in that community. I don't blame the people who live in Springfield
Starting point is 01:07:42 for being upset. I don't blame Haitians who made decisions for their own family to end up in Springfield the way they are. I do blame a lot of failed government policies. And at the end of the day, you could sit back and blame the government all you want. And some of, at a certain point in time, I said, okay, I'm sitting here offering commentary from an armchair. I'm done with that. I want to go in and actually be through action, make a difference that you want to see. And so I think that running to be the chief executive of a state, a governor, short of being a president,
Starting point is 01:08:09 is the single greatest way to have unshackled impact on your country. And I'll look forward to making a big announcement about that in a few weeks. All right, this is V. Vic Ramaswamy. We appreciate you for joining us. Good seeing you, man. It's The Breakfast Club, good morning.
Starting point is 01:08:23 All right, well let's get right to Jess with the mess. She's a coacheship. She was able to get y'all to see something and understand something that nobody could get you to see. It's time to set it off. All right, real quick before we get into this next story. I did want to say that that ID doc There's a lot of other parts coming out. I know I mentioned that We didn't even get to everything that we're going to get to because what I realized in talking to y'all is like people don't really care No more about these documentaries. We need to go to court at this point. There's so many of them. There's 23 of them. Yeah, it was like nothing new I learned. It's overload. It's overload at this point. Really nothing new I learned. Outside of me, my first time hearing a story about Diddy and Heavy D having a party and the people being trampled and all that stuff, that was
Starting point is 01:09:14 like the, that was probably like one of the only stories that I hadn't heard. Did Heavy D trample somebody? What? No. Excuse me? No. Where was this? They let too many people in the party people got trampled people passed away
Starting point is 01:09:25 It was a party at how I think was that Howard Howard How it homecoming that wasn't the celebrity basketball game now something else that was asking me I thought at Howard that was New York, maybe that was in New York. It was our time though, cuz no it wasn't Oh, it was after Howard when he was still known as like the party guy That basketball game was in New York. Yeah, I don't know if it was in DC or New York what I'm saying is that Early party guy and basketball game was in New York yeah I don't know if it was in DC or New York what I'm saying is that early and that whole thing happened but yes but the girl he didn't just as an artist that they did it together he didn't also he was in the stampede Yeah, no running over puffy was the party guy heavy D was heavy D. He was coming into the music thing
Starting point is 01:10:10 He was up there at a party, but that was a celebrity basketball game as a city college You watch the doctor don't sound like it The woman that they have talking about it is a woman who knew him from Howard in the parties there which made them go to The party up here. Okay. Yeah, that was a celebrity basketball game. They said a city college in the city. Okay. Well, we moving on. Yes, please. I'm glad we learned something. Selena Gomez, right? So yesterday, Selena Gomez posted and then deleted a video of herself reacting to the immigration enforcement sweeps that have been happening all over. Let's take a listen. I'll try everything I can. She's Mexican too, right?
Starting point is 01:11:06 She's Mexican American. And so she's she's scared because she's going to be sent back. Like what is no no, I know that she's crying because of other people. She was born here in Texas. She was born here. She's born in Texas. Yeah, no, she's just crying because I mean, it's it's in real time. We're seeing people on the outside.
Starting point is 01:11:24 She doesn't feel like she can do anything. And media. She don't feel like she can do anything. And yes, and she doesn't feel like she can do anything. It affects everybody. When I tell y'all the people dragged, sis, I mean, bad, bad. She deleted the video, that's how bad the drag was. People, it was a whole thing of like, y'all voted for this, so now we gonna sit it out. I know there's like a conversation right now,
Starting point is 01:11:40 especially amongst like- Who said Selena voted for this? I'm not saying her in particular, but people were using her as the example of well y'all asked for this at the polls and now y'all getting it so the American people voted for this and this is what's happening. A lot of people okay. They also were like on the you know how they act with people who are rich like you're so
Starting point is 01:11:59 rich you got so much money send people lawyers get them get people like housing that are going to stay here. Lawyers are not going to do anything if you're here illegally like a lawyer for what? got so much money send people lawyers did to Justice Point say Selena should be deported. Oh my god. Yeah, USN candidate Sam Parker said that. And that's probably why she was crying. But she's legal. That sounded like that type of cry. She was born with it. Oh my god, well I know Tom Homan, is that how you say his name? Tom Homan, he also responded as well too.
Starting point is 01:12:38 We have the audio. I don't think we arrested any families. We've arrested public safety threats and national security threats, bottom line. And look, President Trump won the election on this one issue, securing our border and saving lives. This, what happened on our southern border last four is the biggest national security threat this country's seen, at least in my lifetime, because we got over two million known gotaways. We got a 600% increase in sex trafficking. We got a record number of terrorists crossing the border on the terrorist watch list. We have quarter million Americans diving fentanyl coming across the open border.
Starting point is 01:13:07 We're going to do this job and we're going to enforce the laws of this country. If they don't like it, then go to congress and change the law. We're going to do this operation on apology. We're going to make our community safer. We're going to save. Once we lock that border on continuous operation, you're going to see fentanyl deaths decrease, illegal alien crime decrease, sex trafficking decrease. It's all for the good of this nation and we're gonna keep going no policies We're moving forward man that white man sound like a cop don't he he used to be this crazy He technically is just remember everything Trump is doing America gave him the power to do But that's what people was trying to Selena like girl. He was voted in his president
Starting point is 01:13:40 He said he was gonna do it. He's saying this is a surprise. It's not a surprise. Yeah Tom Homan I'm surprised when ice pop up Y'all the real surprise job is seeing the videos of um Dr. Phil Dr. Phil was outside of ice do what? Oh my god getting the people No, where you from You've been deported before? Yes, listen. No. Where you from? Thailand.
Starting point is 01:14:08 You've been deported before from the United States? No. Never been deported? I've been in the system before. What have you been charged with? I'm not a sinner. I'm not charged by the lawyer. Are you a citizen?
Starting point is 01:14:16 My mom's a citizen. Your mother's a citizen? Yes. But you're not? Nope. But you've never been deported before? Dr. Phil. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:14:24 How do you know me? I before? Dr. Phil. We've never been deported before. Yeah? How do you know me? No, I've seen Dr. Phil on TV. Well, this is an example of sanctuary cities, right? We've got an illegal alien convicted of sex crimes involving children. He's walking the streets of Chicago. Again, the problem with a sanctuary city that people like us walk in the street rather than the law enforcement working with federal agents.
Starting point is 01:14:44 This is what we're dealing with. You've been charged with sex crimes with children? Not really. Not really. And never been deported? You gotta go. No, Dr. Phil said how you know me? What you mean? I saw you on the damn movie. If somebody says to you have you been charged with sex crimes with children and your answer is not really, you gotta go. You gotta go. But is he really doing a ride along with us? No, and your answer is not really? You gotta go
Starting point is 01:15:07 Is he really doing a ride along with Outside and he's been tweeting the videos to him one of the videos he tweeted to basically make the point that Ice is not just doing these random sweeps sweeps and sending home families and like, you know Breaking up homes the way that people are making a scene They're only grabbing people who are here illegally that are potential harms and just didn't follow the law to be here. And that's what you were saying, Sheldon. You wanted to know what people did and who what. Case by case basis. Period. And he not really did something. So.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Not really. You got to go. That's like, that's like, that's like when Torrey asked R. Kelly how old is a little girl. You know what I'm saying? Like what do you mean? Not really. You commit crimes against children? Not really. What is that? No, no, no. Did you not understand the question, sir? A little bit. That means the same thing. But Dr. Phil's like the boogie man now. If you see Dr. Phil, you know what it is. Yo, he been there since he stood about that Trump rally and said DEI is what it is. Like I don't know what happened. I got him coming up here this week to scale it.
Starting point is 01:16:03 I'm running. I see Dr. Phil. I'm out. I don't care. I'll block got him coming up here this week to scale My grandma still finds a way to watch it though Jesus well All right, well that was just with the mess now Salome who you giving your down to two man for after the hour since we're on The topic let's talk about these Don't get you man for after the hours since we're on the topic. Let's talk about these Insurrectionists and these these capital rioters, okay talking about case-by-case basis. Let's discuss them All right, we'll get into that nexus the breakfast club. Good morning There is no question that there are problems in this country between police and community. Yes, you are a donkey. The latest on that police killing of a black man.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Now the new developments in the deadly spa shooting rampage. Man, you'd say it was a really bad day for him and this is what he did. And so we are in a state of emergency. Okay, white supremacist violence is and always always has been, the number one threat to our society. But I'm also very proud that my wife is white. My wife is white. It's at the Breakfast Club, bitches! Alright, Charlene, please tell me,
Starting point is 01:17:13 why was I your Donkey of the Day? Well, Donkey of the Day for Tuesday, January 28th, goes to a few individuals. Uh, I'm gonna throw some names out there. Matthew Huddle, he's 42 years old, he's from Hobart, Indiana Daniel Charles Ball, he's from Florida Andrew take he's 36 from Houston, Texas What do all these people have in common? They were all part of the militia known as vanilla ISIS Yes, they are all insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol on January 6th and they were all pardoned last week by President Trump
Starting point is 01:17:41 Why am I bringing this up today? Because we just had a Vivek Ramaswamy on Breakfast Club last hour. He just recently left the Trump administration. Our got pushed out, depending on who you ask. And we were discussing these insurrectionists. All right, full disclosure, we had pre-taped interviews. So the day before is when we talked to Vivek. So a couple of these stories actually came out yesterday afternoon. In the case of Daniel Charles Ball, that was the one I referenced during the Vivek interview, but I brought it up because there was no reason to do a blanket pardon of everyone on January 6th. No reason for President Trump to do that
Starting point is 01:18:13 because some of these people were criminals before January 6th, okay? Daniel Charles Ball was arrested for his role in January 6th. He entered the Capitol and broke a window, shut it through a device at law enforcement offices that exploded. But he also has an outstanding warrant in Florida and was re-arrested last week for a federal gun charge. Okay, Andrew Take attacked police with bear spray and a metal whip.
Starting point is 01:18:37 He has an unresolved charge of soliciting a minor. And Matthew Huddle, well, Matthew is dead ladies and gentlemen. Okay, deceased. Jesus. Yeah, he has Matthew is dead ladies and gentlemen. Okay, deceased. Jesus. Yeah, he has vacated his earthly meat prison. I know you're sitting around like Uncle Sharla, why would you ever give a dead man donkey in a day? Well it is possible to die dumb. And I want to reiterate that Matthew was one of the insurrectionists who was pardoned by President Trump. The FBI said he was at the Capitol for several hours during the riots and entered the building for
Starting point is 01:19:02 approximately 10 minutes. He was sentenced to six months in federal prison and 12 months on supervised release. But according to the Indiana State Police Criminal Investigations Division, he was pulled over by the Jasper County Sheriff's Department for a traffic stop and he was allegedly resisting arrests. You don't say a Capitol riot rider had zero respect for law enforcement and resisted arrest? No. Let's go to NBC News for the report please. Hobartman recently pardoned by President Trump for storming the Capitol on January 6th was shot and killed by an Indiana sheriff's deputy yesterday
Starting point is 01:19:38 afternoon. This happened during a traffic stop. The police account of what happened is that the deputy pulled over 42 year old Matthew Huddle on State Road 14 near the Jasper County line around 4 15 of the afternoon. When the deputy tried to arrest Huddle they say he resisted. There was an altercation that led to the deputy firing his gun killing Huddle. Police go on to say that Huddle had a gun but it's unclear what led up to that shooting. Now Huddle was just pardoned days ago for a misdemeanor related to the 2021 Capitol riot. He was originally sentenced to six months in federal prison.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Once again, a Capitol riot rioter? Had zero respect for law enforcement and resisted arrest? Listen, I'm just here to give people the credit they deserve for being stupid, and I'm here to inform y'all, you're making your president look bad. Now, I know folks don't listen to vice presidents we learned that very well during the last administration but JD Vance said
Starting point is 01:20:30 something that made a lot of sense in regards to the January 6th parties it was very logical. Listen. It's very simple look if you protested peacefully on January the 6th and you've had Merrick Garland's Department of Justice treat you like a gang member you should be pardoned. If you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn't be pardoned. And there's a little bit of a gray area there, but we're very much committed to seeing the equal administration of law.
Starting point is 01:20:53 And there are a lot of people we think in the wake of January the 6th, who were prosecuted unfairly. We need to rectify that. Well, I wanted to part with what he said, pardon should be done on a case by case basis, but you know, I never get what I want around here. But yes, pardon should be done on a case-by-case basis, but you know I never get what I want around here. But yes pardon should be done on a case-by-case basis and these three cases I just named to some of those, you know cases
Starting point is 01:21:12 All right Number one Daniel and Andrew were both violent towards police that should disqualified him for a pardon according to JD Vance I agree Okay Second Andrew was out here allegedly soliciting minors online and Daniel had a federal gun charge and got re-arrested soon as he was released. If Trump would have done these pardons on a case by case basis like his vice president said, he would have seen that and made the right decision. Matthew Huddle, I hate that you lost your life to law enforcement.
Starting point is 01:21:38 They said allegedly you was resisting arrest. You had a gun. It's hard to give you the benefit of the doubt because we saw how these domestic terrorists known as Vanilla Iceices treated law enforcement on January 6th I'm honestly shocked y'all didn't get shot and killed then no I'm not you had the complexion for the protection all right the things more often did not tend to work out but clearly they didn't work out this time for you because you're dead look all the insurrectionist capital rioters please
Starting point is 01:22:04 understand that double jeopardy in your case isn't the second round, okay, on the game show, all right, nor does it give you a second chance to break the law. I just want to make people aware of who these people are, who got these pardons. Let's go back to NBC News for that report, please. This is probably the trickle of stories we're going to get on January 6 going forward. It'll be about people who committed other crimes outside of this. Because remember, while there were certainly a lot of people who stormed the Capitol on January 6 and didn't have a long criminal record and might even have no criminal record at all and were upstanding citizens otherwise, according to their neighbors, there was this whole contingent of these January 6 rioters
Starting point is 01:22:42 who had some really awful criminal histories behind them. I mean, you know, um, domestic abuse, um, really ugly assaults on their, their partners and wives, um, child molestation cases. Uh, you know, these DIY cases, there's a lot of drug problems, a lot of, uh, a lot of alcohol problems. And now I think some of these January 6 prosecutors are wondering, you know, what's going to be the next, uh, what's going to be the next story to drop. Yeah, they dropping. Just remember everything Trump is doing, America gave him the power to do.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Okay. He was voted in as president and he has full control of government, all three branches of government. So everything he's doing, he has the constitutional right to do. Doesn't mean it's right, but sadly it's the American way. Please give Matthew Huddle, Daniel Charles Ball and Andrew Take the biggest he-ha In fact, let Kathy Griffin give him the biggest he-ha. Please give this giant jar of mail the biggest he-ha Yeah, the mayonnaise was heavy on those stores. Mm-hmm. Yes. That is crazy. Mm-hmm. I want them trapped before his funeral
Starting point is 01:23:44 Mmm That is crazy. Mm-hmm. I want to trap a people's funeral Mmm Doubt it. I doubt it too. Mm-hmm. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Yes indeed Now when we come back, we have Derek Lewis joining us now Derek is an ex-executive from Pepsi He recently retired. He actually graduated from Hampton University Good brother He brings a lot to the table when it comes to bringing us to places where we usually are not And we're gonna talk to Derek Lewis when we come back. He has a new book called Survive in Advance Lessons on living a life without compromise. So we're gonna talk to Derek Lewis when we come back
Starting point is 01:24:14 He bought me a hoodie and Lauren stole it. Damn Y'all definitely pull together. That's stud love if I never heard of it. Lauren can not handle me. She can not. She can't deal with me. Oh she got the vibrator with six seconds. That's the W. Okay, Jackie. She need to give me my video for real. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on in. Morning everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious. Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club, Lauren LaRosa, Phyllan and we got a special guest in the building, we got the good brother Derrick Lewis. Welcome brother.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Good morning my brothers, how you feeling? How are you doing? How are you doing now? I'm doing great, excellent, excellent man. Now for people that don't know who Derrick Lewis is, besides going to the greatest university and college in the world. Oh which one is that, Del State? Definitely not Del West State, Hampton University.
Starting point is 01:25:04 We'll relate you. That's right. Break down who Derek Lewis is. Derek Lewis is an inspirational leader. Grew up in Chocolate City back in the 1670s. Single parent familyhood, lifestyle. Decided I wanted to be something different. I wanted to dream big for myself despite the circumstances I was under in the chocolate city back at that time. And I was inspired by getting a great education, inspired by joining a big company, inspired by putting that work in, to become who I wanted to be, my best version of myself, to lead others, be not only a go-getter,
Starting point is 01:25:35 but also a go-giver, and strive for excellence. And I was able to do that over a 35-year career at Pepsi. Since then, I've retired now, and I keep doing my work. I'm obviously releasing a book. Thank you for the opportunity to talk about that today. And also I'm launching cheese steak restaurants in Orlando. Big Dave's Cheese Steak. So you know brother Derek Hayes who owns those. Yeah, I love him too. So I was his first franchisee. I'm bringing 10 units to central Florida. I've already opened up four locations, two in the Kia Center and
Starting point is 01:26:01 two in Camberworld Stadium. We're off and running. I got two brick and mortars that opened up at the end of March, beginning of April and the sky Cam World Stadium. We're off and running. I got two brick and mortars that open up in the March beginning of April and the sky's the limit. I'm also obviously serving on boards. I'm back at my alma mater serving as a trustee and putting in the work there. More non-profit boards, doing the family thing. So life has been great, but I'm also,
Starting point is 01:26:18 maybe I'll still contribute in ways that satisfy me and my family. What was your title at Pepsi right before you left? The last title? I was president of PepsiCo Multicultural North America. So for the entire corporation. So basically DEI before DEI? It wasn't DEI, so I want to clarify the DEI thing.
Starting point is 01:26:32 It was DEI had its own department. I was all about focusing on consumer, culture, and community. And so I was, primarily throughout my career, I was an operating executive. So I ran the P&L. I had billions of dollars of responsibility. At one point I was running North America. And then we did a restructure and I went, I assumed the South, the South responsibility as president. And then at the tail end of that run, which was about three
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Starting point is 01:30:10 to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. Situations evolve and we had developed such a good model on culture, community, and company that the company asked me to step in and create this big role for the entire corporation using the best practice that we developed in the southern United States and be able to start to implement that. So that was the last role that I had in coming. Primarily throughout my career I was out, I was all putting sales and driving profit, driving market share.
Starting point is 01:30:35 It was getting after it in the trenches each and every single day. You were one of the first people corporate wise, right? I graduated from Hampton a long time ago so I would go to all these different homecomings but you were probably one of the first to bring huge corporations to all the HBCUs, right? Not just the big ones, because it's easy just to go to the big ones where North Carolina A&T, which is the biggest university as far as students are concerned, or FAMU, which is a big university.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Why was it so important to you to do that HBCU run and to show up at those HBCU schools when other corporations weren't, but they started following after you did? Absolutely. It's all about legacy, right? And so my HBCU experience at Hampton was absolutely fascinating, incredible. And so to be able to take that experience, build that sort of legacy not only through the corporate side, investing not only just events, activation on campus, but also recruiting. I recruited heavily on HBCU campuses.
Starting point is 01:31:26 I pushed hard to have recruitment centers go down to these schools, not just in called Mid-Atlantic area, but also down throughout the Southwest. I was responsible for setting up the SWAC partnership that we still enjoy today. That has been now a long-term partnership and agreement based on the schools that are in SWAC.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Great schools, great campuses. Certainly the activation mainly revolves around sports, but I took that and extended that to recruitment and also community effort, right? And so me, it's a whole sort of end-to-end proposition, not just about the parties and social side, it's also about jobs, it's also about what we're doing in the community, it's also about setting up legacy for the future. When you, in the opening of your book, you talk about going through all of the pandemic and the riots that happened after George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery, and you realizing, I'm not an activist, but I do want to do something because I know what it's like to not know what's going to happen tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:32:16 When did you get to a point in your career where you felt empowered to be like, my activism is in the boardroom and this is what I'm going to do? Being a only or one of few in a big corporation like a Pepsi, it's not easy to be like, you know what, y'all listen to me, this is what we need to do, this is how we should get back, this is how we should help. That's a great question. I think mid-career I felt that responsibility now
Starting point is 01:32:34 because I was starting to really move up in the organization and there weren't many people at the top and so a lot of the younger associates looked for me for guidance, direction, and so I just started creating networks across, I moved around a lot, so when I ended up in the West Coast, we would be at a national meeting, and it would not be uncommon for me to call
Starting point is 01:32:52 all the black associates to a hospitality event at the end of the night, and we would have like 100 people in the suite, I'd just go over and up and go over in a suite, go and get everybody together and just talk to them about their journey, what's going on, how I see the future of the company. I'm the historian of the culture at Pepsi, right? That takes a hell of a lot of courage because at all times I'm worried.
Starting point is 01:33:10 I have my own concerns in my own life about what's happening. But the time when someone's leadership is needed, it was time for me to step in and step up. And I did that. I did it honorably and gracefully, humbly, and I was excited to do that. I was excited the company gave me the platform to do that. And I think it turned out very, very well for everybody. With companies taking DEI off the table,
Starting point is 01:33:29 how will that affect a company like Pepsi? How would that affect those big companies? Since you've been there and you've seen whether they hired African Americans or minorities. How does that affect that and do you think it's a good idea? I think they'll be fine because again, they're going back to their history. The history is so strong and the torch passing
Starting point is 01:33:43 from CEO to CEO has been really strong and solid. So it's like running this relay race that never stops, right? So I feel like they'll be in good shape. I think for what I'm seeing now, it's not obviously, it's unfortunate, but at the same time, as I talk about my book a lot, it's an opportunity, right? So while there looks to appear to be a setback,
Starting point is 01:34:00 there's times for now leaders, companies, cultures to step up to the plate. It's about people. And so even in this case where you're telling a cohort that we're de-emphasizing something, de-prioritizing, you haven't necessarily come back with something that you're doing to offset that. Something again that revolves greater good,
Starting point is 01:34:15 more collaboration, sort of more sensitivity around things that are going on. That's how you treat people. So that lack of sort of compassion that is being shown in the, we're cutting it, and we're not talking about really anything else I think it's just not good. So I think this is a time for leadership to step up to the plate It's not hard to write this new playbook by the way should have been written a long time ago
Starting point is 01:34:33 It leaves my like myself could have done it. I could almost feel in 2020 what was happening It was a more of you in your face moment everybody was going to get on board because no one wanted to be left behind or deal with the Rats of being sort of on the outside looking in. And then obviously what happens is time moves on, things move on. They really really weren't any call it scorecard metrics or calibration against what you said and what you were going to go do to now. Can anybody go back and even remember what people said back in 2020? Right so there was always a question around sustainability of that
Starting point is 01:35:02 effort. I can remember I can remember them pledging all that money to them corporations and not delivering. Right, there was a lot of money, a lot of checks written. A ton of checks written, but where are we today? A lot of pledges but no checks were written. Exactly, exactly, exactly. You had that happen too, right? So you had people in a quiet way resisting or just reacting instead of really reimagining what the new playbook would be. So we actually took the time to reimagine
Starting point is 01:35:27 the old DE9 to something more modern that focused again on being more comprehensive, certainly being more collaborative and being more compassionate, we can get there. That's not hard to do, by the way. I like that. It's not hard also to execute that plan. What's hard is getting everybody on board.
Starting point is 01:35:43 All right, we got more with Derrick Lewis when we come back He has a new book out lessons on living a life without compromise survive in advance keep it locked. It's the breakfast club Good morning. Morning. Everybody is DJ envy Jess hilarious. Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club Lauren is here with us as well We're still kicking it with Derek Lewis former executive from Pepsi also graduated from Hampton University He has a new book, Survive in Advance, Lessons on Living a Life Without Compromise. Charlamagne?
Starting point is 01:36:09 You know, I always said that the problem I have with corporate DEI, it didn't feel for us by us. Like it should have been more, it should have been black people. Right. Telling these corporations what is needed. Right. Not these corporations saying,
Starting point is 01:36:20 okay here, this is what we're gonna do. Well that's the difference with a Pepsi is that we were always at the table. You know, throughout the history of time, whether it was the black sales force back in the 40s or up until modern era, I was at the table when these programs were being developed. It had a point of view, it had perspective.
Starting point is 01:36:34 And I give all the cities credit to all the CEOs who listened, who adapted, who empowered the executives to take charge. And I would do the same thing. I would ask the employees, instead of putting your head down with all this, now you're empowered to do something about it. I believe in the structure of ERGs, employee resource groups, and I believe you have to have places to be safe where you're, if you feel isolated in the company no matter where you come from,
Starting point is 01:36:54 you have to have a place to go, and should go. So those things should structurally stay in place, but it's up also in coming upon those groups to lead a new agenda for the future, not keep looking up going, where are we going, where are we going? Guess what, you're looking up, there's nobody, there's nobody looks like you up at the top. Right. Okay. Think about it, CEOs right now, Fortune 500, less than 2%. So how much progress is that really from the 1960s and now we have 2%, less than 2% of
Starting point is 01:37:18 people running the top 500 companies in the world. They're qualified people out there, there's no doubt about it. I'm one of those qualified people that can run a Fortune 500 company. So I'm not trying to do that now, but I'm out here and there's hundreds, if not thousands of people like me that are qualified, but they're not getting the opportunities. So in some regard, you can look at, did the DEI structure actually hurt progress
Starting point is 01:37:36 from people elevating because of this receive, you're getting an express card. Check the box. Check the box. A fast mover without sort of having the merit and having the credentials do that. I think there were a lot of concerns. It actually held a lot of people back.
Starting point is 01:37:50 So let's reimagine this. Let's rebuild it. While we respect the grounded nature of how it was built, let's evolve it to a way that is more comprehensive, more collaborative, and more compassionate. And we get there, everybody wins. You can't have winners and losers in this space. You can't have mandates in this space. I was there.
Starting point is 01:38:08 I want to ask you this, right, because I love the title of the book, Survive in Advanced Lessons on Living a Life Without Compromising. It's rooted in the DEI thing. Right now you have a lot of people saying they want to boycott Target because they rolled back their DEI initiatives,
Starting point is 01:38:20 which I don't get it. You know, it's a lot of different companies that rolled back DEI initiatives, so why just Target? But what they're saying is they want to make an example out of this one company, but then now people are saying, hey, let's do a compromise, let's support the black brands in Target, but boycott everything else. What do you think the best course of action is?
Starting point is 01:38:36 I think the best course of action again is I think leaders around the space, people who have experience, people who have, you know, dealt with struggle in their life like I have, who've been through a journey, I've been through HBCUs, need to lead a new agenda, need to lead a more modern agenda that again, I go back to the same three C's, right, that is absolutely more comprehensive. Going this, this boycott angle and only supporting this, supporting that, that's not the answer either, that's not the answer. It's very short term, yeah, it drives a lot of engagement, but it's not the right answer.
Starting point is 01:39:04 You're going to You're gonna increase polarization to even a greater extent when you do that. Our time is now to look at this as a positive in terms of change and creating new change for the culture and do it in the right way that's gonna create sustainment. Doing these sort of side hustles and taking these tactics that are abrupt, abrasive, temporary, don't solve the long-term problems.
Starting point is 01:39:25 I'm into solving the long-term problem. Let's solve the long-term problem. Let's get people, leaders together with the corporations to say, hey, we want to take a different cut at this. That takes real strategic leadership. That takes real sort of collaboration and maturity to pull this off and not look at it with your head down, but look at what your head up on. What's the future look like in this space?
Starting point is 01:39:42 And having people at the table to do that will get us to the right space. I want to talk about you coming up with your wife as well. Yeah okay. How long you been married? We've been married 32 years. Now explain how that is having the right partner by your side. It's meant everything. Me and Charlamagne talk about it all the time but the right partner keeps you out of trouble, keeps you from doing foolish and sometimes you got a smack in the back of your head. So talk about that journey about having that right partner on your side
Starting point is 01:40:05 to make sure that you would use that confidence. I mean, it really has been the key to the success I've had. And I talk about this a lot, especially recently we've been talking about this a lot, is our line shared vision on how we wanna do live our lives. Now the story at Hampton, you know, it was volatile. We met, I was a senior, she was a freshman.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Things didn't work out, they worked out great at the beginning, but as you know, those things are temporary down there, didn't work out. I moved on, I wanted to be this, go get my job, go stab at some income, go buy my first house before I started taking relationships seriously. It was a big mistake that I'm glad didn't cost me,
Starting point is 01:40:34 because I wouldn't be here now if she wasn't part of my life. But we reunited, time heals. I matured, I came back, I saw the value, true value she brought to the table. And I knew all along that our vision on family, our vision on career, our vision on community, our vision on faith were so aligned that it was obvious for me to say,
Starting point is 01:40:52 hey, I need to lock this down, right? Because I knew that the place I wanted to go go, I absolutely had to have a partner that was willing to go along with that ride. And that ride wasn't gonna have lumps to it. So a lot of sacrifice that we had, but we've built the family we wanted to build. We call ourselves Team Lewis.
Starting point is 01:41:08 She's the co-captain or she's actually the chief household officer I would say to her. And been a part of all that. But shared vision has been the absolute focal point of our success. Leaning on each other, trusting each other, grinding each other. She's made me better.
Starting point is 01:41:23 I would like to say I've made her better, but she's certainly made me better in this whole journey. There's a point in the book, not the statistic, and this point in the book, just talking about your wife and leaning on her, you talk about your journey with finding out that you had a cancerous mass and just things you overlooked because you were working. Just in day to day, and the title of the book, Survived in Advance, you talked about feeling like you survived and you got away from a lot of things,
Starting point is 01:41:45 you didn't have to worry about what was gonna happen next in your life, and then you're super successful and then cancer comes, and your wife is there and your family's there, like, can you talk to me about what that journey was like for you? And you're faced with it, you're still, I see you kinda get emotional right now. Yeah, that was great, that was a tough time, right?
Starting point is 01:42:00 I mean, I'm retired now, I'm playing a lot of golf, and I'm having the time of my life, and then I start seeing blood in my stool, and again, sloppy for me, undisciplined for me, I had never had a colonoscopy, you know? And so here I am, 56, and every year I go get my executive physical, check in the box, and doctors are like, hey, Derek, it's your over 50 now, it's time to get your colonoscopy. I'm like, I got you, I got you, I got you, but I'm going back to the grind, I'm going back to the grind.
Starting point is 01:42:23 I'm focusing on people. I'm focusing on my job. Are you scared to go? I wasn't scared, I just ignored it. I deprioritized it. I made it feel like my executive physical was good. I'm feeling good. The boxes were checked. You said you had all the best doctors.
Starting point is 01:42:33 Yeah, your cognitive skills were good. Your motor skills are the highest they've ever been. You know, your blood comes back fine, you're good. So I'm like, I'm good, man. I gotta get back to the grind. And I ignored it. It was a terrible decision. I don't want anybody out there that is 50 or over it has not had a colonoscopy now a matter of fact
Starting point is 01:42:49 You start getting younger now starting to get a lot younger Depending on your family history a lot of has to do with your family history But the earlier the better so there's no there's no such thing as an early start with checking out You're checking out yourself in that regard. So was it it was a terrible decision It would have cost my life This thing is an early start with checking out yourself in that regard, and so it was a terrible decision and it would have cost me my life. But my wife was fully behind me. She took it actually hard, and I did,
Starting point is 01:43:10 but she was the rock in this whole thing and wouldn't have got through it at that level if it wasn't for her and her support. She came through big time, and my network came through big time, and it was one of the most incredible experiences. I say in the same breath, it was the hardest lesson I learned,
Starting point is 01:43:23 it's also the greatest lesson I learned at the same time. Because I got a lot of runway left. And that, you just motivated me now, for the next 30-some odd years of my life, to go after in ways that I haven't gone before. It refueled me, it re-energized me, it put me in a different space. And again, this whole notion of being a go-giver,
Starting point is 01:43:39 man, I'm in that space and I see the vision of what the future holds for that. That's right. All right, well, pick up the book. His memoir, Survive in Advance, Lessons on Living on living a life without compromise. It's out right now Derek Lewis we appreciate you for joining us. Thank you brother. Thank you all. Thank you for what y'all do man. It's the breakfast club. God bless. Good morning the breakfast club Morning everybody is DJ envy Jess Hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club. Let's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Let's get to Jess with the mess! On the breakfast club. She's a coacheship. She was able to get y'all to see something and understand something Then nobody could get you to see this time to set it all Are y'all nah, hold up. I'm excited. I know you're excited. This my show. I know now I'm only on episode 2 the new the new Netflix series. I'm not far from legs of riches Yeah, what's the update cuz I'm only on 2 but I don't it's like I don't want you to like I'm not gonna give it away. It's more this more than but what's the update cuz I'm only going to but I don't it's like I don't want you to like But what's the latest drama I forget it. Okay. So alright, so over the weekend I don't know if this is on the show or not. Yeah, I'm only episode four. Oh Because we locked in over here.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Come on over, Bill Maher. We're just ready to jump. Come on, y'all. I really love this show. No, Charlamagne. Yo, WAGZ the Riches. So WAGZ the Riches on Netflix. Over the weekend, MJ, on the show, you guys know MJ.
Starting point is 01:45:17 She is the mother of one of Kodak Black's babies. Her name is Miranda Johnson. She got into it at her baby's birthday party. So they were there celebrating her three-year-old daughter, her and his three-year-old daughter. I don't know, nor do police know who she actually got into it with, but law enforcement sources were called. It was a big ruckus, they said. Police spoke to several people who told them that they were injured and wanted to press
Starting point is 01:45:42 charges, but when push came to shove, and cops started asking questions, names and numbers, they was told that only one person was willing to cooperate. I don't know. Sounds like it. I don't know. Yeah. MJ on the show. She's gotten into issues before and normally before they were over Kodak. Like she's a little violent. On the show she pulled up on one of the baby moms, the other baby moms or whatever. Because. She broke up Kodak's cars. Oh, she beat his cars to a pulp, okay. Yes, now, but I like her though.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Everybody trying to figure out why he get high, please. No. I like MJ though because I feel like MJ, she's young and she's learning and it's like she's doing it in front of the world. She's not making the best decisions all the time about this man, but she's learning. And the other girls on the show to me specifically, and I liked Sherelle
Starting point is 01:46:27 before this, they're a little judgmental. It's a mean girl's show. It is so mean. I feel like MJ's actually not a mean girl. She just get crazy when she needs to and I'm not with somebody pulling up when they have to, right? I'm not talking to MJ, but that's a mean girl's show. Like very clickish. Some of the things that they be saying. And they're too old to be doing that. Yeah, they're very too old to be in cliques and be judging people off something.
Starting point is 01:46:47 So on the show you have that you have Sherelle on the show who is married to Ocho Cinco. They're not married yet. No. Well, whatever they do. Fiance or dating or not dating something. I don't think they married yet. Yeah, Ocho Cinco. You have Stoney on the show who's the ex-wife or ex-girlfriend of Rick Ross. I don't know if they were married or not
Starting point is 01:47:07 Yes, Jules is on the show. There's a ton of ladies on the show. I love Yes Jules. You do? Yeah. You're the only one. How you say it like that? Because I mean I'm indifferent, but you're the first person I ever heard say I love Yes Jules. You know in real life though. Okay, that's why. I met her a few times. She's cool. They was on her neck too. Yes So people have been coming out about the show really bad and talking about how they hate the way that the show portrays the women who are married to these athletes
Starting point is 01:47:31 because there's so much more to these women apparently, right? Like they're supposed to just be running businesses, managing mom life, while traveling with the athlete husbands. But all you see on the show is like, I hate you. I'm judging you. Sherelle literally told Stoney, who is the ex of Rick Ross,
Starting point is 01:47:45 I don't want to be your friend because I heard you used to be a prostitute. Let's take a listen to that. I just told them I just don't f*** with you. I don't see myself f***ing with you because of the reputation you have. And what reputation is that? The escort, the sex taste. I'm not an escort, for one. So what is this? You guys patrolling my f***ing home?
Starting point is 01:48:04 I ain't patrolling. I mean, like, can I get along? escort for one. So what is this? You guys patrolling? We're grown and I'm pretty sure you have pictures videos and you've been over and chose phone Okay, so you're telling me because somebody decided to act out a revenge to me that you not No, it's not just that if you're going to have sex videos of yourself advice make sure it's your own personal device. Oh lord a bunch of old ass clowns. I can already see you straight after now. Did you see that episode? No I did not. Sorry to anybody who didn't see that episode but you gotta watch it. That was early on. That was early on. They actually made up a bit since then, but I have, again, I'm only like four episodes
Starting point is 01:48:47 in so I don't know if they fell off. You gotta watch it. It was so crazy too because your girl gets into it. Yes, Jewel gets into it too. Did you see that? And that caused a big follow online. Let's take a listen to Yes, Jewel's. That's your girl.
Starting point is 01:48:57 That's your girl. You said she was a racist. You said cultural vulture. That's racial vulture. Let me ask you something. What do you do for your culture? I'm a real estate agent. I get people in... Oh, wow. So you make money off people buying homes. Okay, that's racial vulture. Let me ask you something, what do you do for your culture? I'm a real estate agent, I get people in...
Starting point is 01:49:06 So you make money off people buying homes, okay that is... That's cool, but you don't know me, you're talking about me like I'm a culture vulture. So I'm just wondering if you're gonna talk about the culture, let's talk about what you do. You stay in fact, you don't f*** me. I do a lot for my culture. You were the same b**** that wanted to wear a... thin shirt, right? The shirt said, ninjas lie a lot, just like... I'm not gonna say it!
Starting point is 01:49:24 I'm not gonna say it because I don't say it. Speak your mind! You're around a bunch of black women, I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say cuz I don't When I tell you went down after that that, so the shirt that, it was a tweet, Yes Jules had tweeted out a shirt. Years ago. And said, yeah, N words lie a lie, and she was like, so am I allowed to wear this shirt? And people were of course upset about that because Yes Jules is white.
Starting point is 01:49:53 And so the girl brought it back up on the show, they fought, so people were like, why is this cultural appropriator on the show? It caused a whole drag in the herd. How much is Zeus paying these women? It's not Zeus, it's Netflix. How much is Zeus paying these women Okay, most people don't like it though, they're like this is it's too rash
Starting point is 01:50:26 We gotta go real quick There's a woman in Detroit She filed a lawsuit. I just spoke with her attorney. Her name is big dang She's a music artist because she was denied a lift She filed a lawsuit for weight discrimination a lift driver pulled up is small. I can fit in this car. Well believe me Yes, I can Which one of them are my money So you're selling me I can't get in the lift because I can't fit in your car My best friend has a business more than this that I can't fit in a car? Cause the car is smaller than the back of me My best friend has a biz that's newer than this that I can fit in That's the same time
Starting point is 01:51:09 So you really telling me I'm too busy getting your car So I gotta order another lift And to be more specific with you I got very tired Tired I got very tired, tired I'm leaving, I'm leaving How big is she? So I don't know her actual weight but she she is a bigger girl. Show Shaluma in a picture. I do have a picture.
Starting point is 01:51:25 You know how one of them, because these different levels are big. You know how it looks like you're big in the front. There's a photo of Big Dang. She's a music artist too, by the way. So she's aware of her. No, no, no, no. God bless her because she would cut you out. She went off in a video.
Starting point is 01:51:36 I ain't going to say don't say God bless her. Why you say God bless her like that though? God bless her. I mean she said still, you know, she know her size. She know how, she ain't saying it. I mean, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's
Starting point is 01:51:44 like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she She went off in a video. I ain't gonna say don't say God bless her. Why you say God bless her like that though? God bless her! She know her size. She know her size. She know her size. You can't be sad for her. You did your homework? What? Yes. What did you just say? I just wanna say I did.
Starting point is 01:52:00 Or just order XL. Why she didn't order XL? The Benz was a C-Class. That he was picking her up in. Oh no. The small Benz. And when I did my homework it says the weight limit is 1200 so she could have fit. And she's nowhere near 1200. 1200 on weight limit for people or for luggage?
Starting point is 01:52:14 It depends on what he had in the trunk already. Like what's already in the car. I didn't do all that research. But yeah, cause it's, oh damn. Cause she's a perv. Why are you mad at the man for being honest? Yeah, he ain't say, you know. Because according to her attorney, under the the law refusing someone to ride because of their weight is the same as refusing them
Starting point is 01:52:28 a ride because of race or religion According to her attorney so she wants damages. She was damages and she wants her attorney fees paid for now Look, we deny him entry here. We gotta That was Big Mac, all right, that's the breakfast club morning. Let's get with the mess. And that was Big Mac. Alright, that's the Breakfast Club for the morning. Let's get to the mix. Wake up. You're locked into the Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We gotta salute to Vivek Ramaswamy for joining us this morning. Yes, salute to Vivek Ramaswamy, man. You know, he's formerly of Doge.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Doge was a agency created by the Trump administration. It was supposed to be Vivek and Elon Musk that was supposed to help with government efficiency, but Vivek walked away. That's right. Oh, he got pushed out. Oh, when Donald Trump rolled back his DI initiatives all across the country, they kicked him out.
Starting point is 01:53:22 I don't know which one it was. They kicked him out. Okay, but something happened. Oh, right. But he's no longer with them anymore. That's right, so if you wanna see that full interview, just hit up the Breakfast Club page on YouTube. And also, salute to Derrick Lewis for joining us.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Ex-executive from Pepsi, he graduated from Hampton, he has a new book out, he talks about how he got his job and how he climbed so high to that corporate ladder. And you can see that interview on Breakfast Club YouTube page as well, all right? Now when when we come back we got the positive notice to Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time to get up out of here. Charlamagne you got a positive note. I do have a positive note and it's simply this man to protect your energy
Starting point is 01:53:59 it's okay to cancel a commitment. It's okay to change your mind. It's okay to want to be alone. It's okay to take a day off. It's okay to do nothing. It's okay to cancel a commitment. It's okay to change your mind. It's okay to want to be alone. It's okay to take a day off. It's okay to do nothing. It's okay to speak up and it's okay to let go to protect your peace. Have a blessed day. Breakfast club bitches. We are finished. Are y'all done?
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