The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Offset Speaks on Cardi’s Album, Tyler Perry Accuser Explains $260M Claim + Jermaine Dupri & Shaka Senghor Interview
Episode Date: September 10, 2025Today on The Breakfast Club, Jermaine Dupri talks about his documentary Magic City: An American Fantasy, his upcoming album, Billboard rankings, and his history with Mariah Carey. Shaka Senghor also j...oins us to discuss life’s 'hidden prisons,' finding true freedom, and the power of forgiveness. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to a woman who stole over $266K from her 95-year-old grandfather. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Waiting to be late to the Zoom,
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Getting over a strep throat.
I did shows over the weekend in Baltimore.
And I love my hometown.
Yes, I do.
But I got sick after meeting greet.
It always happens like that.
But that's why I don't do it as much.
got six, somebody came out with strep, passed it to me, and yeah, I've been home for recovering
for like three days.
Okay, and how many shows did you do out there?
I did five.
I could have added another one.
They were all sold out, but I started not feeling good Sunday.
You're still out there spreading strep all around Baltimore?
I'm definitely not in Baltimore.
I'm home.
I haven't been able to be around my child, my husband, nobody.
You look like you was in the dispensary yesterday on Instagram.
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You know, this is a great week.
And the reason this is a great week because, number one, the NFL is back, right?
So it's NFL week, too.
Regardless of how your team, regardless if your team sucks.
Yes.
Like mine, the Dallas Cowboys.
I'm glad that disclaimer had to come, didn't it?
Which team?
Who was you?
Pitchburg or Baltimore this year?
Ravens.
Hey, yo, not this year.
Ravens, well, they lost last week.
That they did lose.
That badly, that was a terrible loss.
No, it wasn't a terrible loss.
It was just stupid.
They always do dumb stuff like it.
They always do that though.
That was up in the fourth quarter.
About like four touchdowns.
Yeah, that was insane.
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Drop on a clue bombs for Terence Crawford and Conella Averress.
Not enough hype around this fight for me, but I didn't think it would be.
And the only reason I didn't think it would be
is just simply because, like, you know,
Conello is super popular in the Mexican world.
Correct.
Terrence Crawford is not as popular unless you're a boxing fan.
Right.
You know?
It'd be a good fight.
It should be an amazing fight.
Who y'all got?
I don't know.
It's a pick-me for me.
I know that sounds crazy because the boxing fan of me says
it should be Connello Alvarez, but I...
I'm going for Bud.
I've slept on Bud before.
Yep.
And that's when he washed Earl Spence.
That's right.
And Bud is a special kind of fighter.
He got a magic to him that you just never know.
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Even though he's going up a couple of weight classes, you just never know.
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I'm just going to enjoy the fight.
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All right.
Well, we got a big show.
Big show for you this morning.
We have Shaka Singor.
He'll be joining us.
He's an author, speaker.
Salomein was just in Rikers Island with him, so we'll break that down what he was doing out there.
He has a new book.
Yeah, he got a new book called How to Be Free, a Proving Guide to Excaping Life's Hidden Prison.
And Shockey is my man.
You know, he comes to my mental wealth expo.
He's been to my mental wealth expo a few times.
And this week we were at Rikers Island speaking to the inmates
because he does a lot of work with prisons all around the country.
And this book is really fantastic because a bunch of us are trapped in a lot of hidden prisons.
That's right.
In our lives.
That's right.
And he gave us a guide on how to get free of them.
And also, J.D. will be joining us.
He has a new documentary series called Magic City, which comes with an album or a soundtrack.
So we'll be talking to J.D.
about everything going on, Magic City and everything that he's working on.
If you've ever been to Magic City, man, you understand how special this documentary is.
And every time I watch this episode of Magic City, I want to go to Magic City.
I'm actually mad that I didn't go to Magic City when I was in Atlanta fan, Best Fest.
Me and my wife have had some great times in Magic City.
Well, you're not even like being around people.
First of all, your wife, like the strippers.
You just like to sit there and eat the wings.
I like to go there and empower the women that are in.
Empower.
Empower.
Empower.
Investing to the community of Atlanta.
Maybe he'd be sitting in the corner.
Yep.
Yep.
Making sure everybody got ones.
Looking for things to discuss on Mondays.
Yeah, right.
Discriminating.
I mean, they're discriminating.
Like, no light-skinned women.
I want all in melanin, please.
Hey, you know.
Oh, we definitely discriminate when we be in there.
What's wrong with that?
Hey, nothing.
You pick what you like.
You pick what you like.
Crazy.
All right.
And salute to the ladies at Magic City.
I'm sure they're just leaving now.
They just finished counting.
their singles and their ones.
Yeah, even the light-skinned ones.
Amazing club.
Slu-de-lala.
Amazing.
She works at Magic City.
Lala.
She's not a stripper, though.
She works there.
Flutal-L-L-A.
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Well, we start this morning with.
who draws the line and who gets to keep the power.
Politicians in several states are rushing to redo congressional maps before 2026,
but voters, they are not buying it.
An NBC poll shows most Americans want independent commissions, not parties who are in charge,
redrawing the maps.
Now, this all began in Texas where Republicans backed by President Trump pushed a mid-decade map
to lock in more house seats.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott signed it into law last week, Civil Rights Group.
immediately saying it dilutes the black and Latino votes.
Democrats in California, they're also pushing a Newsom-backed November ballot measure
that if other states keep redrawing, would temporarily let lawmakers replace the state's
independent map.
Republicans have already sued to block that.
And in Missouri, GOP leaders advance a mid-cycle map that deeply splits Kansas City and puts
longtime Democratic Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver at risk.
And now Utah is jumping in, jumping in. A judge there said lawmakers blue pass voter approved anti-jerrymandering rules and ordered a new map before the midterm. So in other words, voters set guard rails. Lawmakers went around them. And now the court is forcing a redo that would keep more of Salt Lake City together and make one district competitive at least. Now appeals there are also pending, but the clock is ticking. They have a September 25th deadline to look at that. Now all of this brings us back to Texas.
Texas, the state that helped kick this off, which is home to some of the nation's largest black communities, and how those lines are drawn will decide who's heard and who's pushed into the margins.
Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, she spoke earlier this week about those maps and what this now means. Let's listen to that.
These maps, racist. The fact that they are trying to silence black and minority voters in a majority minority state, racist. I want to give y'all some numbers because I don't think this y'all fully.
understand how bad this is. Texas, number one, has more African Americans than any other state
in this country. Right now, under the proposed maps, they want to make it to wear.
Texas only has two districts in which African Americans have an opportunity to choose their
representation. What does that mean for black voices in Texas? That means that it is approximately
one-fifth the voting strength of their white Texan neighbors.
So expect court fights, ballot measures, and confusion over who represents who, but the NBC poll is very clear that 82% of people, they want neutral lines from, they don't want party lines to be drawn based on if you're Republican or Democrat.
And so now to Capitol Hill where GOP leaders are facing a showdown over health care.
Speaker Mike Johnson is under growing pressure from within his own party to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits before they explain.
expire at the end of the year. So far, 11 Republicans, many from competitive districts have signed
onto a bill that would keep the subsidies in place for another year. Without action, millions of
Americans could see their health insurance premiums jump by an average of 18% by January 1st.
This puts Republicans in a tough spot because for years, the party has fought against
Obamacare, but now with more than 24 million people enrolled in marketplace plans, and
more than 90% relying on these subsidies, letting them expire could spark political backlash.
And so some lawmakers want to fold this into an extension into this month's government funding
deal, but Speaker Mike Johnson, he hasn't committed.
But he does say there are, quote, thoughtful conversations happening, but says there's a lot
of opposition.
Meanwhile, Democrats, they're drawing a red line, warning they will not support any budget
deal that lets benefits lapse.
They argue that without action, millions of people will.
lose coverage while everyone else will pay higher premium. So that fight is far from over.
Senate Republicans say they want to compromise, possibly by tightening eligibility requirements
rather than eliminating those credits altogether. But with a government funding deadline looming
and election season coming up, both parties are under pressure to act or face some political fallout.
Yeah, I just don't understand how you sit around thinking on how to make people's lives
worse like it should be an easy call to extend the affordable uh you know care act like it should be
an easy call like it makes people's lives better like why would you why would you why would you want
to cut people's health care in any way shape or form but now it's just it's the principle because
republicans have fought for so long against obamacare that now is just like they don't want to do
it even though millions of americans are on it and they need it and they will lose their health
care. So a lot of people are
riding and calling into their
senators and their congressmen
and, you know, making sure that
that is folded into the government
shut down bail. So we'll see, Charlotte, what happens?
Well, maybe if Republicans just
start calling it the Affordable Care Act
and stop calling it Obamacare and understand
that, you know, their constituents and people
that voted for them also benefit
from this because that's what government should be about, right?
It shouldn't matter who, you know, what party
what party implemented what
people, right? It shouldn't matter what party
implemented what what politician implemented what if it helps the american people that should be what
we care about that's right all right well that is front page news all right me we'll see you next
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Have you watched that documentary?
No.
Oh, yes, I have.
I'm sorry.
My brain is something well this morning.
Yes, I watched all eight episodes of the gambler.
documentary, the Cowboys documentary, yes.
It should be more like a billionaire in his emotions.
It pissed me off because
it showed me that Jerry Jones has been
the problem the whole time. Because
if he would have just got out the way,
put his ego to the side, and let Jimmy
Johnson be the great football mind
that he is, and Jerry just be the
billionaire owner, Cowboys would have had
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Super Bowls, man, during the 90s.
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Hello, who's this?
This is Tracy.
Hey, Tracy.
Good morning.
Get it off your chest, Tracy.
First, good morning, everybody.
Thank you for everything that you're doing.
The thing that's getting on my nerves this morning,
as a mother of four blessed black and highly favored children,
I'm frustrated about this new law that was passed about them taking the cell phones away from kids.
I don't think that they've seen.
fully thought about the safety ramifications
of this because with the active
shooters and all the shootings that go
on, who was
calling the police most of the time?
It's the kids with the phones.
So, you know, when you
have kids away from their parents
and they have no way to get in touch
if something happens, like nobody thought
about that. I mean, even at a comedy show,
they phone ways to effectively let
people keep their phones without taking them away.
Now, I live in Utica. Just this
week, they lost, I don't know,
many phones and the lines for the kids
to pick up their phones after school was a nightmare
so I really wish that they had thought about
this better or think of a better solution
to get this thing so I understand
the reasoning why they did it but
I just think that it's putting the kids more at harm
than helping. They won't let the kids
just keep it in their book bag without using them?
No. Now different schools
have enacted in different ways.
I know that one of my friends, she said
that their school lets the kids keep them in pouches
like they do with a comedy show when they take them
and they lock them up and I guess the teacher can
open it whatever they're leaving
but the school in the high school
in Utica they take their phones all together
and then there's this
grid lock at the end of the day for the kids trying to get
their phones and the first week of school I was told
by my friends that the line
to get their phones were so long
kids were missing their buses it was like
45 minutes some of the kids
couldn't even get their phones back it's crazy
I do think that they should restrict
student cell phone use but I agree with like
the pouches and if you pull it out you know
during during class
then it should be some type of opportunity.
You know, I don't think that they should take it
and, like, put it in the desk
and everybody got to try to get it afterwards.
The pouches is difficult, too,
because with the pouches, usually you have to wait to outside
and they got to scan something to get the pouches open.
It should be, you keep your phones.
It has to be in your book bag.
If it's not in your book bag, you get a detention.
And all my kids can keep their phones and their book bags
and they know that, you know,
they can only pull it out after class
or after school, I should say, but, yeah, no.
We can't sit here.
Some of the people that were saying,
there were people that were saying well when we were younger we didn't have to do all that
I said but you know what we also didn't have we didn't have active shooter drills either
so if you if you can put these kids through these active shooter drills you you can do these
same drills they show them an effective way to be able to keep their phones you know and again
like you said if if somebody is violating then take their phone but I mean to put a whole
school at risk how much a thousand percent but we do but we do um we can't we got to admit that
you know phones are a big distraction for these
They are, but at what point do you teach them personal responsibility?
That is true.
My kids would have been worried about, oh, my God, if I get caught with their phone
and they got to call my mother.
You know what I'm saying?
They would have been more worried about that.
And by the way, it's not like we were not capable because even when we were in school,
like we couldn't have beepers and stuff.
Like if you got called with a-at-at-at-le-at, at least in South Carolina, you got called
with a beeper, you would get detention, you might get ISS or, you know, even though
a lot of kids would bring their beepers and stuff anyway, we knew how to keep a
When Logan was a freshman in high school
there was a robbery across the street
and the guy ran across the school property
and they shut the school down
and they didn't tell any of the parents
but Logan had his cell phone
and was able to call and say this is what's happening
and I thank God because you're a parent
you're outside you don't know what's going on
they shut the school down you're trying to run it
and there was a staffing at the middle school
across town from the high school just yesterday
so I'm like okay I wonder who called it
yeah you're right well I would tell my kids to keep it in their
backpack don't say nothing don't pull it out
to back to school.
And, you know, if he gets caught,
tell them to call their mom.
I like that idea.
Because like you said,
it teaches them personal responsibility.
Thank you.
Right.
Thank you.
And they got to be accountable for that.
That's right.
For their phone or violating that phone rule
that's in the classroom.
Get it off your chest.
800585-105.1.
We got the latest with Lauren coming up.
We do.
Cardi B is talking about why
the more kids you have,
the better.
So more kids might be in her future.
We're going to get on into it.
All right.
I like that blazer you got on.
Thank you.
Palm Angels. I like her hair.
Thank you. I'm not going to feel all that.
It's giving TLC.
I like TLC. We went for that yesterday.
I was out. We're going to talk about it, talk about this too, but I went to Harlem
Harlem's fashion rules kickoff for fashion week yesterday.
They honor Usher with the Virgil Ablo Award.
And my outfit was very TLC-ish, black.
So this was the hair we did.
Okay.
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We'll get into that next.
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Let's get to the latest with Lauren.
Lauren becoming a straight fact.
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
She gets the details.
I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
She'd be having the latest on this.
The latest with Lauren LaRosa.
Sometimes you have facts, sometimes she have details,
sometimes she have a little bit everything.
Well, it's the latest.
On the breakfast club.
Talk to me.
So Cardi B sat down with Jennifer Hudson,
and she talked about why.
why she would have or want, why she wants more kids.
Let's take a listen.
Do you think you're going to have more kids?
You are?
Mm-hmm.
Aw.
Yes, it's like the more kids who have,
the less of a possibility you go to, like, a home.
One of them is going to wipe my butt.
One of them is going to wipe my butt.
That's true.
Yeah.
And they say that especially when you've got girls.
Yeah.
People tell me that all the time.
I've got four girls.
I'm going to be taking care for the rest of my life.
I got four girls, two boys.
That's what I always say.
One of them's going to make sure I'm good.
I'm not in home.
I say that to them, though.
I'm like, you're going to take care of Mommy and Daddy when we're all, right?
Me too.
Yeah.
I think the girls are definitely more inclined to do envy, but you got, your girls are already, like, I feel like they take care of y'all or try to.
Madison got me.
I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't concerned.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I thought that this was an interesting conversation because, you know, that there have been those rumors that Cardi is pregnant or if she's not pregnant.
So hearing that she's open to more kids, you know, is definitely a thing.
She also talked about the fact that she doesn't even have room at this point to get more kids tattooed.
So if she does have more, she's going to have to figure out where the kids are going to go.
But at the same time in LA, Offset was at the airport.
He was at LAX.
And TMZ ran into him and asked him about, because, you know, Cardi is promoting, Am I the Drama,
and he's running around promoting his album Kiari as well.
Now, Offset, Offset was asked by TMZ if there's competition between him and Cardi
because both of the albums are going to be, or his is good, and hers is predicted to be really well.
Let's take a listen.
Hey, are your kids going to have both their parents' nominate?
for album of the year?
For sure.
That's just, they're crazy.
You guys gonna go up against each other maybe?
Never, never, no, no.
But maybe, oh yeah, never, right.
All peace, man, all for us to win.
Everybody got to win.
We got kids, take care of, we got to catch the dubs, man.
Totally.
So last thing, you're going to support her album in some way?
For sure.
It's hard.
She's going to do a big one, too.
Hey, I love to hear it, man.
Hey, and thank you for your time.
You're a real good dude, man.
Yes, sir.
I appreciate you.
Dropping the clues bonds are offset.
That's a dogging that messy.
nasty ass question
that person was trying to
trying to present
shout out to Charlie
over it
that's Charlie from TMZ
that is the Ozzy over there
but Charlie's right in theory
both of them could be up for an album
of the year because their albums came out
in the same year but he knew what he was trying to do
yeah 100% but I will say too
shout out of all set because I think over this
press rollout of his album
and just some of the things we've seen them go through publicly
with their divorce situation
he's learned how to have conversations
about what they're going through in the media
from the beginning of when we saw them
to now, there was so much growth in that answer.
But speaking of Offset,
so we remember we were talking a lot about
why Offset and JID's bodies
has not been getting the push
that we think it should get.
So they were on Fallon yesterday
and they performed in
Drowning Pool, the band that originally did
bodies, performed with them. Let's take a listen to that.
That's dope. Yes. Yes,
I didn't really know much about the
original song that was sampled.
I learned that because of this performance, but I was
watching this interview with J.D. He was talking about how
the composition of that song is like
one of his favorite that he's ever wrapped over.
He killed it. Yeah.
He bought it that record. Two individuals who
did not get the proper promotion for their
albums, J.I.D. and Offset.
What I'm making the stops now
seems like with Fallon. That was a great
performance. Yeah, but it's been
weeks since their album came up. You're right.
You're right. You're right.
Well, speaking of album promotion, you guys
have been seeing Cardi and all
the promotions she's been doing. So
She's taking it back.
She's taking it back to the essence of when people used to run around and really, really push their out.
We got to stop doing this.
What's that?
We got to stop praising people for doing what they're supposed to do.
Yes, I understand what you could.
We did the same thing with the clips.
Clips had such a genius rollout.
And we're doing the same thing with Cardi.
Cardi's having a genius rollout.
No, she's actually doing a rollout.
Correct.
But here's the thing.
But rollout stop, right?
Because budget stopped.
People stopped putting money into marketing and they started doing it.
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Let's just do a TikTok dance
and that'll sell it.
But I think these artists are going back
to what makes sense.
Talking to their...
I don't know.
Yes, you need a budget,
but also, you know,
it don't really cost to go do media.
It don't really cost to do press.
It don't really cost to do promo video.
Or to lean into just what your audience knows you as
because what Cardi has been doing,
she looks like you could shoot that with an iPhone.
It looks like she's shooting it with an iPhone.
So Cardi B of you guys have not seen it has been...
Like, we know her for like the skits and, you know,
the personality.
It costs money to move Cardi around.
It does.
Don't give me...
But I'm not moving around
and what Lauren saying.
No, she is.
She's doing skits.
I mean, she's doing skits.
So, like, the last one she just did,
she talked about the budget.
It does take money to move for around.
But what I'm saying is you can pull out a phone
and speak to your audience
the way they're used to hearing you.
So the love...
You can pull up on the block
and lay your CDs on the sidewalk.
Yes.
But she's also going to Houston.
She's going to Atlanta.
She's in Long Island.
She's flying all over the place.
And Cardi don't fly in commercial.
No, no, no.
But I'm not talking about that part of it.
I'm talking about the piece that's promoting, like the vehicle that's promoting it.
She said, she jokingly posted a video saying that Atlantic only gave her $50 for the rollout,
so that's why she's been doing this.
And we have the audio of her, right, Jess.
I think, I mean, she's being funny, but there was the video.
Just like they only really gave her 50?
No.
Might be close.
No, Charlotte.
This is Cardi B.
They don't.
They just had that whole article with them talking about how.
These labels don't be spending no money, but continue.
I was just going to play the audio from where she had the CDs laid out.
I think she was uptown in Harlem.
I'm sure the CDs laid out on the ground.
Let's take a listen.
What up, y'all?
We have the exclusive party beat.
You are what we're selling it right now.
Look at it right here.
We got the vinyl.
We got the CDs.
We got the court edition.
Got the four edition, 99.
$999.99.
So which has it is, y'all.
And I think what she's doing is dope is she's making, she's giving physical copies, right?
Because it makes people feel special.
There's no disrespect.
You can download a record or you can stream a record.
But the fact I got a CD and it's signed by Cardi B,
I could get a chance to take a picture.
I got vinyl and it's signed by Cardi B.
I think that even makes it even more special.
And it's affordable.
It's $999.
I love that.
I'm just happy as a rollout
because people don't promote their stuff
outside of social media.
Like literally.
They're like posting on Instagram,
posted on their Twitter,
posted on their TikTok,
and that's it.
Make good luck.
I am just happy that it is an actual rollout
that she is actually out there
promoting her,
telling people to go by it.
That's so crazy because rollouts
used to look forward to see what the rollout would be.
And now it's like,
Cardi's always.
been consistent with having rollouts for her big projects but I mean her last album too but
it's just crazy that we like have to like be like oh my god this is a rollout when you used to look
forward to that's all this all this is got to be willing to do it all this got to be willing to
work as well well shout out to um um cardy and the rollouts and all the things I went to a galore
magazine Tokyo styles Cardi B party last night celebrating them um but they took I didn't I was
there it was late they hadn't got there yes I left before they came but they covered a galore
magazine. Yeah, so shout out to Tokyo styles and
Cardi B. And she does the boozy-ish and she does
the hoodish. She'll go to the club and then she'll go
to the booths. She does both sides. Yesterday was in the middle.
It was in the middle? Yeah, it was in the middle. It was like, I seen
the homies, but it was a lot of people in there. I was like,
how did y'all end up here? Okay.
All right. Well, that's the latest with Lauren. Now, when we come back,
we got front page news. And then
Jermaine Dupree will be joining us. So don't go anywhere
to the breakfast club. You're checking out
the breakfast club. Morning
everybody is D.J.N.V.
Just hilarious. Sholomey and the guy. We are
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some front page news.
What's up, Mimi?
What's up, y'all? So this is a story that has been having a lot of back and forth.
And there was another ruling that came down yesterday.
So a federal judge on Tuesday blocked President Trump's attempt to fire Lisa Cook
from the Federal Reserve's Board of Governors, issuing a temporary restraining order that
keeps her on the job for now while the case proceeds.
The judge in the case ordered Chair Jerome Powell and the board not to carry out the removal.
Cook is one of several, excuse me, seven governors who help run the central bank.
She sits on the Federal Open Market Committee, which votes on interest rates and helps the banking rules and financial stability policies.
Decisions the feds make, they make mortgage rates rules, car loans, credit card applications, and how banks are supervised.
For months, Trump has pressed the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates, arguing that his tariff policies will not push up inflation, but central bankers want to see how.
how the trade war and other policy changes affect the U.S. economy before resuming cuts.
Now, in the spring, Trump threatened to fire chair, Jerome Powell, then backed off, as advisors warned him,
this would spark the market volatility. So rather than take on Powell, whose term ends in May of
2026, it seems the focus has shifted to reshaping the board. Now, if Cook, a Biden appointee
were removed, Democratic appointed governors would drop to two of the seven-member panel.
Now, to do this, Trump has gone after Cook on mortgage fraud, allegations tied to properties that she owns in Georgia and in Michigan.
Cook denies any wrongdoing and has not been charged, and she sued to keep her seat.
During a cabinet meeting, though, Trump was asked if her attempted firing was political and if his administration was weaponizing government by digging into the mortgage records of people he does not like.
Let's listen to what he had to say.
No, they're public.
I mean, you can find out those records.
you can go check out the records yourself.
And you should be doing that job, actually.
You wouldn't do that because that's not the kind of reporter you are.
But you should be doing that job.
I shouldn't have to be doing it.
If you did your job properly, we wouldn't have problems like Lisa Cook.
Right then and there, that's when the reporter should be like, okay, Mr. President,
but what about the Epstein Foss?
Like, whenever he insults you, you should bring up exactly what you know bothers him.
Absolutely.
And that was a CBS reporter.
Presidents don't typically fire fed leaders.
part of a norm that that's meant to protect the central bank from day-to-day politics.
And it's also interesting to mention that Cook is the first black woman to serve on the Fed
board in its 110-year history.
And you said that was a CBS reporter, so Trump owned CBS, so that person wasn't going to buck back.
Okay.
All right.
Well, moving on, if you have ever had your flight delayed for hours or canceled at the last
minute and you sat there wondering if the airline owed you anything, this next story is for
you because the Trump administration is reversing a Biden-era plan that would have required
airlines to pay passengers compensation when flights are delayed or canceled due to airline-related
issues. Now, we're talking payouts that range from $200 to $775 plus coverage for males and
hotel stays if you were stranded because of something like a mechanical failure or a system
outage. Now, the plan was first introduced in 2023 under the Biden administration as part of an effort to
cut down on junk fees and pushed for stronger passenger protections.
It even made it to final approval the stage earlier this year, and it was waiting to take effect,
but the Department of Transportation under Trump Secretary Sean Duffy says the rule is now being
withdrawn.
The airline industry, of course, is celebrating this move.
The airlines for America, that's the group that represents Delta United in America.
They called the reversal a win, arguing the rules would have gone beyond the Department
of Department of Department of Department of.
of transportation's authority and they're not fixing the real issues but here's what you need to know
if you are still stranded or if your your flight is canceled the airline will refund you but they
do not have to compensate you for delays some carriers choose to do that but not everyone it's totally
up to the carriers now that this so we still have been reversed so we still do get the refund
you still do if your flight is canceled not delayed but canceled you do get the report
Yeah, yet again, I don't understand why this administration is so hell bent on getting rid of things that actually help people.
Like, after you've been delayed, you want some type of compensation.
Yes, people miss work.
Yes.
I've been late to shows.
Like, what are we talking about?
Yeah, like, especially if it's not your fault.
If there's a mechanical issue or staffing shortage, they should pay you for something.
Absolutely.
Not even shows, like kids' events.
Like, there's been times I had to fly back to make it to a kid's games and the flight was delayed or
didn't happen and I was late or missed the kids game
so yeah there's a lot going on yeah and you should be compensated
absolutely yeah the fact that the Trump administration cares
more about what these airlines think
than what everyday people think
is part of the problem
yeah I'm so sick of these politicians
that are beholding the corporations
yeah I'm talking about like me
doing shows I've been late to my own comedy shows
and people are there waiting
for me but my flight is delayed
and delayed and it's like
damn they want their money
at the end of the, you know what I'm saying?
So people miss work is what I mean, not me
going to shows. I'm talking. I've seen people miss weddings. I've seen people
miss funerals. I didn't see people miss a whole bunch of things because flights are
delayed and they couldn't get out. Imagine you miss your own funeral because the flight
delayed because, you know, sometimes they got a ship a body.
Well, the body's in there a couple days before this thing rule. He wasn't
even there. Well, thank you, Mimi.
All right. You're welcome. And that's your
page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me on social at Mimi Brown TV. And for more news coverage,
follow the Black Information Network or download the free IHeartRadio app and visit BINNews.com.
Mimi, maybe do your followers go up when you do that? And do they be all in your DMs?
Charlotte, that's an offline conversation. Crazy. Crazy. All right. Now when we come back,
J.D., so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Breakfast Club
Morning, everybody
is DJNV.
Jess Lari, Shalameen de Guy.
We are the Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building.
Yes, indeed.
J.D. J. J.Maine Dupree.
What's happening?
How are you feeling?
He's looking at the wall.
I'm looking at the wall.
We ain't got J.D. on the wall?
I don't know.
I don't think I don't think I made the wall.
That's all right.
That ain't really got J.D. on the wall.
Yeah, y'all ain't got me up there.
See, the wall represents, like, iconic
Breakfast Club moments.
Not that you haven't given us
great interviews.
I haven't had a...
You know what I'm saying?
You have had some, you know...
You never stormed out the studio.
Yeah, I don't have nothing to do.
I'm going to throw a chair in.
Yeah, I'm out of that.
I'm not in that conversation.
But you have always coming in and giving us
great conversation, man.
And I've been enjoying the Magic City
docu-series.
Thank you.
And it got me to thinking about like just Atlanta.
Like, in Atlanta's had a lot of
different runs as far as music is.
concern. But what is Atlanta
culture exactly?
Is it the script clubs? Yeah.
100%. That's
one of the things. Skating.
It's a bunch of different things
like the bass music and
a bunch of different things, but we haven't
we've never really highlighted
these things the way I guess I'm trying
to do and make sure that people understand
that that's what it is. Because I think like
people think like even with the
strip club situation,
it was me and whoever else was
promoting this from a long time ago
just black people trying to promote
strip clubs and you learn
from the documentary that this was a law
that was passed in the city
and might be more states in the
south that
nudity was something
that they opened the floodgates
and made it a business right
so even me growing up I never realized
why it was so many strip clubs
in Atlanta it was a strip club
damn no every corner or in every
hood in Atlanta and I never understood
I just thought we was just a strip club place.
But when you look at this documentary, you start going outside and looking at all the other places.
Like in Florida and all these other places, you're like, oh, it's a law that was passed, right?
And I used to come to, like, New York when we used to do things in, wherever I go to other cities and be like, man, why these cities ain't popping like Atlanta with the strip clubs?
And the law is a real law that gave us the entryway to just have this going.
So, yeah, that's an Atlanta thing.
Is Magic City the biggest strip club and the most recognized strip club in the U.S.?
No, I think, I mean, I think it's been, it's been a couple, you know, over the years.
I think Magic is in the top three, of course.
But like booby-trap in Miami.
King of Diamond.
King of Diamond is when, I mean, you know, Miami's always had, you know, I mean,
they've always had these trip clubs.
Turnover yet.
And I think, V-Live.
V-Live, I think that's Houston, right?
Yeah.
So I think Houston, it's a couple of places.
This is this got, but I don't think Houston can get naked, though.
That's the thing.
It's like, we're talking about nudity as far as strip clubs.
It's Miami and Miami in Atlanta.
Atlanta was nudity, nudity.
So what made you want to do?
Atlanta need that infrastructure now?
When I think about Magic City, I know people look at it as just a t-bawall,
but when I'm watching the DACA even just growing up,
I think of it as infrastructure.
This is a place where people went to break record.
No, I want to say, that's the thing.
Like, I was going to answer your question.
The reason why I wanted to do it is because
you know we don't talk about
the places that
actually helped us get to where we are
you know what I mean that that part of hip hop stopped
a long time ago like
when you watch like Wild Style right
when there's a person that's not from New York I watch Wild Style
you can see like how
Grand Master Kaz them
what they was doing to become
and made what made hip hop
turn into what it was here in New York
and in the later years of hip hop
what shows
shows or anything show kids how we got, you know what I mean, how we got to where we are.
And I think that, you know, it's important for black establishments to show.
Like, it's a 40-year-old black establishment.
The owner went to jail.
They tried to sell his property.
He took it back over.
And now it's back popping.
And then he got a TV show.
Like, that's an American dream.
You know what I mean?
Like, regardless of whatever good or bad, it's a black American dream that we don't ever really be talking
about.
Does Atlanta need that infrastructure now?
Huh?
Is it needed now?
Yeah, 100%.
I mean, we need it more than any.
Everybody, I mean, not just Atlanta.
Like, a bunch of cities need to,
it's probably a bunch of other cities that's got like 40 to 50-year-old black
establishments that I don't even know about.
Well, you think ruined strip clubs?
Because at one time, there was a strip club in every city.
They were always big.
There was 15 in Atlanta.
There was 10 in New York.
What do you think ruined the strip club?
Safety.
Right.
I think that's why magic stands out.
so much because you can go in magic with all your jury on.
You can go in magic and be the biggest star in the world and be standing next to the
biggest criminal in the world.
But whatever would happen somewhere else, ain't getting ready to happen in magic.
And I say that proudly because even me, I go to magic without security.
Like, because the security in there going to take care of me like if they was working
for me.
And I feel like it's the safest club in Atlanta.
So I feel like that, I feel like the safety of strip clubs and how magic.
ran the club
strip club etiquette
I think that is that
that's what killed
strip clubs
for the most part
now also
I noticed you know
growing up
when we used to go
to strip clubs
you go with a couple
dollars right
and you would
you would be fine
all night
that's totally
changed
no that's not
that's just your mental
okay
right
that's just people's mental
space right
if magic city's like
overly crowded
I'll go
stand by the bar
and I might
spend $500
to a thousand dollars
that you know
and by the way
Jaddy, that's still a lot of money.
I was talking about $100,000.
You said $1,000 at the bar.
I'm just saying, let me put this in perspective.
Everybody said what's happened.
The other night when Chris Brownham was in Atlanta,
they spent $200,000 in Magic City.
So my little $500 to $1,000 over there in that corner is like $100, man.
Look at his face.
Because I hear when people say those numbers and I'm like, I don't believe it.
No, I swear to God.
Oh, God.
To $100,000?
On God.
A hundred went to Chris, right?
I've seen people order 100,000 singles.
Yeah, I mean, 100 went to Chris without a doubt.
And magic, in magic, they go, when you order the money, they bring a Magic City bag upstairs for you, backpack.
I got one of the house.
So the backpack had a hundred in it.
Jada waiter, y'all know J.R.
She got about a dog, right?
I think, maybe more.
P from QC.
I think he ordered 40.
right then to that
you know that's that's 160 right there
you know what I'm saying
Chris by himself had 100
that's what I'm saying so if you start splitting it up
I think bow I probably got 10 or 15 20
you were 200 fast
so when you was in the back of the day
with BMF how much did you see them spend that one
on my album
I have a conversation with meech and he says
he spent $600,000 one night
that's insanity that's crazy
what's the most you spent
and now you were in there with Janet
what did you spend
I mean I had a limit
Like when everybody heard me say I spent $10,000, that was my limit.
So once I got to that 10, I wasn't trying to.
But by the way, I'm not in there trying to compete.
I always felt like, you know, at one point in time when BMF came or when BMF grew,
because I've been in the club with Meach for a long time before BMF was a crew like that.
And we used to be at the gentleman's club back in when you watched the episode where Magic supposedly was burnt down or whatever.
and everybody went to the gentleman's club
that's back in the period of time
when I actually met Meach
and Meach didn't have the crew
of people with him and we was in the gentleman's club
and in the gentleman's club
it was like what he said we weren't really
throwing the money we was just like
giving the girls the money right and that's
where the whole confusion about who started
throwing the money came from because
I started doing this
in money and a thing video and I know
people want to say they did it
and did it well you find a video that came
out before money in a thing where you see rappers throwing money like this right and that
i never had a like it wasn't about me trying to challenge nobody it got to it got to be like when
each of them crew came and it was like oh damn they throw them more money we got to throw it became
like a money war i was never i was never part of that we're still talking to jamean dupree
the new docu series magic city is out right now and the soundtrack comes out this friday
When I think about Mariah Carey getting the accolades, she got the other night of the VMA,
I don't know if that happens without you.
And what I mean by that is Mariah had a fantastic career, but that album was like a comeback album
that kind of solidified her forever.
I was talking to her about this yesterday.
And I was saying, like, it would have happened without me.
But Mariah is such a New York hip-hop person that she wants to gravitate towards
this shit, right?
As opposed to, like,
promoting the Boys the Men record,
which was, no,
her first song of the decade, right?
She ain't even performed that song the other night.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, she got records that's bigger than the records I did,
that she just like, yeah, you know,
we can already do this tonight.
This is what we're going to do.
Listen, I love it because I'm a part of it,
but don't get a twist of these songs.
You know what I mean?
She got records that she could do that's like hero.
You know what I mean?
these songs that's huge that made
her, Mariah had sold
30 million records before I even worked with her.
You know what I'm saying? Like that charm
bracelet and then that, what was that movie
called? I don't even remember that. Spockle.
Spockle. It was a bad,
it was dark for her. Yeah, but one
black guy can't kill you.
No, that's true. But then you came back with
emancipation of Mimi and that's a nuclear bomb.
I mean, that's not a normal
I mean, yeah. I just
I always look at that like I'm really
I can't take credit for Mariah.
She's who she is
And she was who she was before
I'm just happy that she let me be a part of the ride
I think that puts more pressure on you though
And what I mean by that is when you're tasked
With going in there with an iconic person already
And creating something that gets them
You know back seeing the way that they were seen
Before their last flop
That says a lot
That you was able to accomplish that
They didn't put pressure on me
I would think so back then
Nah because I don't think about it
Like you know like the thing about it is when I go in the studio
people I don't be like I don't get caught up in what's happening in their life and I think that
that was what was going on to her life outside of the studio I go in the studio and I'm like I say
this all the time when I when I work with Aretha Franklin she made me realize like listen if you
gonna be in here working and I'm gonna pay you and we gonna let you get this credit you better
say what the fuck you gotta say if I sound bad if I don't even sound halfway good she was like
tell me to do it again and I'm like I can't tell the Rita Franklin nothing
like this Aretha Franklin
but the way she was talking to me
was like I flew you here to Detroit
to cut my vocals
so what you're going to do
you're going to sit in and just watch me
or if that's I'm going home
that's what she told me
she says literally I'm going home
that's what you're going to do
and that's when I set that for me
and I'm like you know what
I got to do this
I just got to be brutally honest
with artists and when it came
to emancipation to me and me
we belong together
we made the song
I'm like listen Mariah
if you don't hit the note
at the end of the record
the record ain't going to be what people want the record to be they want you to
that's what they want we got to give them what they want and it was like nobody else wanted to say
this i had to say it and i had to be like you know if you don't like me for saying what is real
then why are we in the room together what was one of the artists that didn't like you being
brutally honest that was like nah this is not for me nobody i don't think nobody i mean i think
everybody want they don't want to address it but when it's right they like oh okay you know
But a lot of them, like, you know, Bawa didn't like, oh, I think they like me.
Usher didn't like.
You wrestle with him every time you're in the studio.
That's where it's Bally.
But I'm saying, Usher didn't like, you make me want to.
And you have to sit there and be like, man.
That's crazy.
Why?
What are you listening to that make you not like this song?
What was it about the emancipation of Mimi that got her back to where she needed to be?
Was it the freedom that maybe you provided?
Because I saw the brat telling this story about how Tommy Mottola got guns.
Pulled on you because you let Mariah go to bird?
I didn't let them do nothing.
They pulled off and went on their own.
But yeah.
So tell the story because I don't know the story.
Okay.
So the first time I started working on Mariah, I decided to do it always be my baby remix.
Right.
So I brought Escape and the Brat to her house that was out in upstate with her and Tommy.
And this was the first time me, I started bringing my people around Mariah.
And I brought Brat, her and Brat kick.
it they hit it off and she convinced bratt or either brack convinced her let's take a trip
in the car just me and you and go to mcdonalds or some old shit so they left together no
security left the ground without me knowing and showed up in the studio like what what's going
on i'm like i seen my was running around like and all was looking at me like jd this is your
this your person she don't ran off with maria and i'm like what the fuck like that was a crazy
moment. This is my first time being
there. This is my first time at her house
and
I bring some
this is like a story. You bring some
this over to the house and this is what happened.
And I'm in the house like this
like I'm just trying to make a record man
what the fuck is going on?
Like where are you at? Yeah I called her.
She's like, we're just getting some prize and I'm like
what? Why?
And she was saying that Mariah just
like at that period in time Mariah was
you know this was a different type of success
life at this point.
Real celebrity.
Yeah, she wasn't the artist that could go outside and go to McDonald's.
Or she wasn't even doing that.
Like, she was sheltered in the house and she just wanted to get out.
And Brat was her person that was ready to go escape and do it.
So was it that level of freedom you provided her?
That's what it's because I'm called the emancipation.
Yeah.
No, I just think, I think I make Mariah comfortable.
Right.
And I don't, I don't, I don't fake with her about the music that we should make.
And I think that's what makes her feel free.
you know, free, because I'm telling her, I'm telling anybody, if you sing, make singing records, man, like, hey, like, I get it, you want to rap. And I'm a rapper at heart, but I learned how to make music. And I learned through the success that I've had that these people want these records to sound like the records that they know. The audience don't change, right? So I just have to keep beating that in people's minds and letting them know, like, listen, you might want to change your shit up.
But the person that's listening, they want the new Mariah record to sound like the Mariah record that they heard before.
And that's always a hard fight with artists.
Did you ever take her to Madison City?
Yeah.
No. No, no, no. She won't. She probably won't go to that. That ain't. That ain't her bag.
Now, back to Usher. You said Usher didn't like make me want to.
Yeah.
Why not? What was the problem with that?
I don't know.
And how'd you get him to, how'd you force him to finally do it?
Well, I mean, I had to force him, but he just let me know it wasn't like that wasn't where he felt he should be coming with.
at this point in time usher was still
not sure where his career was going to go
so he still cut the song
luckily but if we was in that space
right now he's not going to cut the song
right now he ain't gonna be like
I don't f*** with that song
right now he don't care
but he don't like you now I'm not doing it's not even going to get cut
even now like right now I would trust
you to not right
he's going to be like that's right now
I'll be like yo usher please cut this song
uhsh should turn his phone off
like
when your name is mentioned 50 years from now
What's the one record or one artist you want to define your legacy?
I don't know who the artist is.
Somebody great.
I mean, I think, you know, I think, like, watching Mariah get Vanguard Award and her performing in that piece, two of records that I did, I think that means a lot.
You know what I mean?
Like, almost like you're saying, it's like, my records are loud enough to make people damn to believe that I had something to do with her success.
To me, that's a mean accomplishment because I didn't.
have anything to do with her becoming
who she is. No, that's not true.
That's not true. I mean, no, because it's
a second way. Yeah, but I'm saying, I think
I might have made more black people like her.
Yes. But she's still
Maraiccared. Yeah, but it says something when you
me, I mean, that's our best album. I get it.
Manifficitia Mi' Mara Carey's best album.
Absolutely. That's probably the definitive album
of her whole career. That's her thriller.
This is. I don't know.
I don't know. We're still talking to Jermaine
Dupree. The new docu-series,
Magic City is out right now.
And the soundtrack comes out this Friday.
Charlemagne?
What's the hardest personal sacrifice you've made for your career?
Life.
I don't really have no life.
I just be making music.
You know what I mean?
And I have people that tell me this all the time.
Like, Jada, you know, you don't really, you, my baby and mothers be saying this.
It's like, you know, your life is the music.
All you do is care about the music.
All you care about it's putting out records.
All you care about it's doing what you're doing every day.
And that's the truth it is.
That's what it is.
I don't care about nothing else.
You don't enjoy the money?
You don't go on vacation?
I mean, I come along with it, but that's not a chase for me.
Like, my chase is to be, you know, like what they said on the billboard.
I get number one.
I feel like I finally did something by getting number one on that list.
But then it's never enough because you want more.
No, but now it's like, but it's also like fighting.
It's like boxing.
You've got to, you got to stay number one.
Can you stay in that space, right?
You know what I'm saying?
It's like watching Floyd and Tyson.
and talk about they're going to fight.
It's like Floyd retired,
but he still want to be the,
he want to be the best.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like,
I'm not saying I'm retired.
I'm out here.
So I just know that, you know,
like,
I also know that the space in hip hop and R&B
that hasn't been touched.
What I'm doing,
going from 92 and being,
becoming the number one producer
of the 21st century in 2025,
ain't been seen ever,
ever,
Right?
So if you start doing shit
that ain't never been seen,
you don't have no reason.
I don't have no reason to stop.
I just got to, you know,
pray to God that don't stop, you know what I mean?
It's funny.
I wonder if hip-hop limits Jermaine Dupre.
And what I mean by that is
when people start talking about
who's the greatest producers of all time,
they'll start, you know,
naming a bunch of people
who do a lot of hip-hop records, right?
But you got to just say
Jermaine is a musician.
If you said Jermaine is just a musical producer,
then I think the conversation
is a little bit different.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Um, I mean, it's hard, man, because I, I feel like I switch from people, I switch up on people so much.
When I'm in R&B mode, I'm not talking about no rap, right?
I remember one time I came up here and I was so R&Bed out and I won't, I'm waving the flag for R&B and I ain't talking about nothing rap.
I think that confuses the podcast and the guys they usually talk to me about, they're like, wait a minute.
I thought this shit was money and the thing.
you know what I mean
in Magic City
this shit's over
talking about you want to make
Division records
you know what I mean
I think that
that that throws the whole thing
because I do switch
I mean that's how I have
that's the only way I can do it
that's only way I can make it
is to get away from
you know from one thing for a minute
and go into that space
and be 100% in that space
Is there a media bias
even towards the South
because I think about that
with the producers and the artists
because there's some artists
from the South
who should be getting mentioned
just top lyricists all the time
and some producers
from the South should be getting mentioned to the top of this.
I just think that, and I want to get, I want to see a bank, a shout out because I feel
like his interview with Thug.
Fantastic.
Pushes.
Brilliant.
Finally, somebody in Atlanta to the forefront of hip-hop media in the city of Atlanta.
And I think it's taken 30 years for somebody in the city of Atlanta to be the person that
you have to sit down and talk to if you, that guy in hip-hop.
and he just made himself that person if you asked me.
He killed it.
I'm glad you said that because I said it on the air, regional ideas.
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Identity matters in media.
100% and everything.
And Atlanta's been the hip-hop capital for so long but have never had that media press.
Luke to Grey Street and all, but they've never had that person you've got to.
And I think that's the problem.
It's like every time somebody from Atlanta that's popped,
they always had to come to New York.
And no disrespect, but I've been saying it should have been somebody
that did what he did with Future, ludicrous.
When T.I got out of jail.
We don't have so many artists that have so many stories,
but they missed the opportunity, like, what just happened with Thug
because we don't have that person in the city.
And that just goes to the culture.
Like, people should, like, I just saw the magazine out there
with you on the front cover variety.
I've never seen that before, right?
In Atlanta, I don't think young people read
and see things like that to push them to say,
you know what?
I want to do what Charlemagne doing, man.
I want to do what Envy doing.
He got a car show.
Like, they don't see that enough to distract them.
All they see is JD throwing money
and this shit throwing money.
I'm going to be a rapper.
Nah, you ain't got to be no rapper.
You know what I mean?
Bank getting ready to hit the bank.
Absolutely.
You know what I'm saying?
Based on what he just did.
did that one interview far as I'm concerned if he do what he got to do and he keep it at that
level and the way he talked to him it makes you're going to have people that really want to
sit down and like let you interview him the same way you did and big facts has already been
that platform to me yeah and then now to see bank doing the perspective with banks yeah I agree
what you ever said but it took 30 years that's what I'm saying it took 30 years for somebody
to say this what we need I'm gonna do it like this right and I'm so I'm really happy to see
that I feel like that's going to turn
that's going to change the city
because that's going to people somebody
going to see that and they're going to create another one
right and at that point that world
will open up because when I came here
I think the beginning
of me talking about Magic City I was like
everybody in New York got a fucking
podcast I mean everywhere
I went everybody got a podcast
Kluen them got one across the street in a little bar
fat joke
everybody fat Joe no I was going to all of them
I mean Carmelo in them out in Brooklyn
It's a podcast everywhere
And I was just like
This ain't this bug
Ain't hit Atlanta yet
Nah they got them in Atlanta
Because you got big facts
You got bank
You got 85 South shows in Atlanta
You got Portland podcast
Big Star of Atlanta
That's four
You don't have about 20 out there
That is true
You know what I mean
It's just
And they're moving
Y'all got 20 out here
That's moving
I'm just saying these guys
That you like
The 85 South show
I think that's probably
The closest next
But after that
It ain't no real like
ain't nobody you got to talk to
Paul Mises is big
You should sit down
But you ain't got to talk to him
That's all I'm saying
I'm just talking about as far as like
If you're one of these people
I feel like
We ain't had nobody
That you have to talk to
Like if they was like
Call me, call the wreck coming
They're like Joe Jermaine
Who you want to have a in-depth conversation with
Your name
Your name is going to come up
And then who's the competitor
To Charlemagne in Atlanta
And then who's the company
From Atlanta too
You know they're from Houston
But they're based in Atlanta
So I just feel like
Bank put himself in the category
to get, you know, the Gucci man.
All of these people that we want to hear
conversations. Gunners should be calling Bank right now.
Yeah, one percent. Gunner should be calling Bank like,
yo, I need to come sit down with you. And just
to read, not saying reply, but
I mean, but it ain't even like this. You've never heard his side.
We've never heard him talk. It's just, like I said, he just made it
where like Oprah Winfrey. Like, you want to watch it.
You want to hear it. And he's not going to hold back
on the questions. And he's not going to hold back on the questions.
and he's creditable in that category
to where you can't run no bull's shit on him
because he's going to let you know you running some bull's what I love
he wasn't afraid to push back
nah but I mean but he don't have no that's him
you know what I'm saying he wanted to he the guy that told me
when I said he's like JD we thought you
you want you want to be from New York that's who told me that
right and I'm like nah I wasn't trying to be from New York
I'm trying to just push my music and I just feel like
like I said I applaud him on that interview he did it
Well, JD, I know you got a run.
Well, yeah, I mean, before I go, I got an album.
I think my album's coming out on Friday.
You think?
Yeah, I think, because I've been, I had a lot of sample clearance issues.
We were supposed to come out last Friday to go with the dock.
But I'm hoping it comes out this Friday because this is the last episode of Magic City this Friday.
So you're trying to make sure the album comes out.
And I'm supposed to turn it in by 4 o'clock.
So that's what my running is doing.
All right.
That's what my phone is doing right now.
Well, Jady, Jemaine Dupree, make sure you check out the Magic City Doc.
and, of course, the album.
We appreciate you for always for joining us.
Thank you.
It's the Breakfast Club.
It's J.D.
And always a great time having a conversation with Jain Dupre.
Salute to J.D.
Guys, done a lot in this business.
Sure has.
Continues to do more.
Morning, everybody.
We ought to Breakfast Club.
Let's get to the latest with Lauren.
Lauren becoming a straight fat.
Tell her, man.
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
She gets the detail.
I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
She'll be having the latest on this.
She'll be having the latest with Lauren LaRoy.
Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything.
Well, it's the ladies.
On the breakfast club.
Talk to me.
So Derek Dixon, who is the man who accused Tyler Perry of sexual assault, sat down for his first interview after the filing with NBC News.
And in his interview, he went over just basically and recounted, like, you know, what he filed in the lawsuit.
So they have a conversation about what he alleges happened.
You guys remember that's the lawsuit for like $260 million.
dollars.
That's the white do, right?
Yes, who was an actor on, you know, some of Tyler Perry's shows.
So they talk about a bunch of different things.
So they get into what some of the instances that he alleges happens.
And one of the things he goes into is him alleging that Tyler Perry touched his butt.
Let's take a listen.
2020.
Another alleged incident that you outline in your lawsuit where you're, again, at Tyler Perry's home in Atlanta,
and it ends up with you locking yourself in a bathroom.
We started out having drinks in the living room like we,
I've done before, and it got to a point in the night where, you know, we were both kind of
feeling drunk, and I remember we were walking back to the guest area where I've stayed
before, and there was this health monitor scale on the way.
And I was like, what is that?
And he said, well, you have to be in your underwear to measure, you know, whatever, so
you should do it.
He reached down and pulled my underwear down and grabbed my, mat, my ass, and I, you know,
tried to stop him and pull back my underwear up, and he kind of grabbed my arms and said,
no, no, no, it's okay.
Just go with it.
And I said, you know, stop.
I don't want to be naked.
I don't want this.
And he was just like, no, no, no, I'm not going to hurt you.
And just continued.
Yes.
So he talks about that a bit.
Why are you looking at envy like that, Sholomey?
I'm not looking at envy.
Stop trying to be funny, Lauren.
Tell your story.
You were looking at envy.
I was not looking at envy.
You are great.
You've been in this room too long.
I will.
But continue to do what?
But continue, oh, you mean with Tyler Perry?
Yes, continue the story.
Going back to the audio.
Yes, true story.
He said, and then he continued.
Continue to do what.
So basically, because he talks about another time, too, where he, like, stayed at, or that basically he was saying that despite him not wanting Tyler, or showing allegedly that he didn't want Tyler Perry's advances.
If Tyler Perry still continue to, you know, throw advances his way, allegedly and things of that nature.
Now, now.
What is funny about this, Lauren?
No, I'm laughing at you, Charlemagne.
You're getting on my nerves.
Why?
I'm going back to my.
story. Now he also talks about
some of the text
messages that they exchanged
because Tyler Perry's team is denying
all of this. Tyler Perry's attorney
Matthew Boyd is saying that this is someone who obviously
got close to Tyler Perry but it was because
this was all a scam or a shakedown.
Now let's take a listen to him on
the text message conversations they had.
The complaint includes multiple
screenshots of text messages allegedly
between Dixon and Perry.
Picture where he's on the jet ski.
I said nice picture and he said yeah the water looks
comedy said nice picture you don't see that stud in that picture rude and i said l-o-l yes that's a
stud and all these texts i tried to de-escalate them and make a joke out of them some of the
messages more sexual in nature one of them says what's it going to take for you to have guiltless sex
have y'all found that in therapy yet i would hope that you would let someone hold you and make
love to you Jess i wish you who this who was the stud in the picture he said Tyler Perry was the
Yeah, so it was a photo in the text message of Tyler Perry
with on side of a jet ski.
Like Medea, might be a stud.
No, like, not that type of stud, Jess.
Like the stud, like a handsome, like a, you know, like a, like a, like a, like a daddy.
Definitely not you.
Like a daddy, wow.
Oh, so they called, that's the new term, they called handsome men studs.
Yes, it's always been that way.
Men have always been studs.
Like they said, a stud man.
No, that don't sound right.
Hold on.
Jeff is like, what is stud getting stud?
But that's like an 80s term.
It's a stud.
It's an older term, a study.
Okay, nice.
Now, they also talked about the fact that this lawsuit is
that he's asking for $260 million.
They want to know how did you even get to this number?
For a butt grab.
What?
Right, that's why I say.
What else that he continues to do.
Into you entitled to the conversation.
I've seen a man grab your butt before.
Oh, my goodness.
It was you.
That's a lie.
That's my story.
That's my story.
So how do we get to that number?
Right, let's take a listen to that idea.
260 from a butt squeeze.
You're asking in your lawsuit for damages totaling 260,
million dollars. How did you
arrive at that number? Yeah, part
of that number is my lost
a job, my lost income, the loss
of the show. The other part of that
is a deterrent for
how do you stop a billionaire who
won't stop themselves from doing
from doing this?
That's a lot of money.
So he was going to make 260?
Listen, they said telepray paid a lot, but
260 for 260
million dollars? All right, half of that.
130, he was going to make $130?
For the show. And then what show was he on?
He lost his job.
What show was he on when Tyler probably was paying him
Booty and Black.
What is it?
No, he was not a Beauty and the Black
because I watched that and he was starring on the Oval.
Oh, that was one of his big of the show.
Hey, man, let the record show I don't believe this man, okay?
I don't believe him either.
I don't care what y'all think.
Be mad.
I don't believe this guy.
I just hate the fact that somebody who accuses somebody
could do interviews before the actual court case.
That makes a note.
Like, why is this, who are the interview with?
He sat down with ABC.
Why is ABC supposed to be a reputable news organization, even entertaining this?
What, what has he presented to it for y'all to entertain this and give him an interview?
It doesn't make sense.
Before they go to actual trial, they're able to do that.
And if there's a jury, the jury hears one side.
Tyler Perry will never be able to do that because he's being sued.
So his lawyers are going to advise him to shut the F up to the trial.
So you're only going to hear one side.
I just think the whole thing is effed up.
But if he does get $2.60 for a buck grab, I'm coming for you.
He's not giving, for the ball, I don't have that type of money.
Maybe it's because he's white as well that this is happening.
I can see that.
Maybe they thought the story would be better and it would stick more because he's white.
I can see that.
Well, guess what?
I don't believe any of it.
Yeah.
And Tyler Perry's attorney, Matthew Boy, also said that Tyler Perry refuses to be shaken down
and that they are confident these fabricated claims of harassment will fail in response to this sit-down interview.
Yes
And I just want to say one last thing
I just said Charlemagne
It gives me 260 for grab my butt
Charlemagne didn't say he didn't grab my butt
He just said he don't have 260
But I don't know why he gonna say to me
Why I can't get through the story
And he in here giving you all these faces
Why this story is happening
There's cameras in here Charlemagne
Like who? Who got cameras?
You just be talking
I don't understand
Envy is a part-time victim
He's like to be a victim when he wants
I'm saying he wanted to be a studs so bad
I've seen you come in and grab
Charlemagne nipple.
You also hug him from the back a lot too, NB.
Yeah, you do hug him from the back a lot.
I got witnesses.
Nippling butt is not the same thing.
Who says?
Diddy's nipples got brought into court?
Damn!
Lauren, you're on a road this morning.
You just don't have nothing serious no more, do you?
You've been in this room way too long.
First of all.
I've told you a million times I'm not mature enough
to have certain conversations.
I think it's starting to rub off on you.
You used to be the mature one.
Diddy's nipples did make it into court.
I was trying to give it.
envy some help here. Everybody's nipples making it in the court.
How can you leave your nipples in the car?
Yo, please.
Get me out of here.
Please.
Give me out of it.
Where are your nipples not making?
The Dixon got...
I like that one.
Derek Dixon said, it's been humiliation
and all of that from him coming out.
And now look at you up here.
I'm not coming out, but talking about these alleged claims.
I haven't made...
All I said is, I don't believe.
And you're talking about nipples and...
You're the one bought nipples into the court.
All right, gals.
It's been humiliation, but you at Tyler Parry,
how it was having.
glasses of wine at night
and y'all walk into
a guest area
like you've did many times before
and you get a little ass grab
and now you want 260
we don't know
we don't know if he got his ass grabbed
well yeah that's
but from his story
and we've done this before many of times
oh all right so what happened on other nights
goofy? I don't believe him
I don't either
okay
all right well that is me
we're not believing him I have the right to not believe people
All right
You are so
You are kind of childish
Because why should you say like that?
He's very childish
Why say it like that?
Sue me
You can't
That's my opinion
Who are you giving your donkey to
A young lady named Erica Harper
She is disgusting as well
Okay she needs to come to the front of the congregation
We would like to have a word with her
Our elders deserve better
All right
We'll get to that next
It's the breakfast club good morning
I just wanted to know how you came up with the donkey of the day
Because you're mean
I am not
What did I do?
I'll have made donkey a day.
There's a bunch of donkeys out in the street.
That is why Charlamagne is here.
We live a life where we fight our tongue based off who we made a thing.
We never would say anything.
You don't get the damn don't throw it.
Hey.
On the breakfast club.
In the words of Charlemagne, the guy.
He's a donkey.
That's a man, Charlemagne, he's giving donkey a day to who now?
Well, Buster Rhymes, Donkey A Today, for Wednesday, September 10th, goes to Eric.
Hopper of Washington, D.C.
She is 45 years old, and she's accused of big scamming.
Okay, I'm talking, wham, bam, thank you, scam.
All right, super seon scamming.
And let me tell you something.
If there's two things that grind my gears,
it's when people take advantage of kids and the elderly.
Funny how life works, okay?
We start off as kids that need their asses wiped by others
and then grow to be elders that need their asses white by others.
But either way, neither version deserves to be taken advantage of,
and nothing hurts worse.
than watching kids are the elderly getting taken advantage of by their own family.
And that's exactly what Erica Hopper did.
She is accused of making more than $266,000 in unauthorized purchases from an old man's account.
Would you like to know who the old man was?
Let's go to NBC 4 for the report, please.
Montgomery County Police accused 45-year-old Erica Hopper of embezzlement, theft, and fraud.
When her grandfather went to an assisted living home in Silver Spring, following the death of his wife of 60-plus years, Hopper gained power of attorney.
In the statement of charges against her, police accuse her of using that to spend her grandfather's money, including from the sale of his house, on herself.
From November of 2021 until June of this year, expenditures listed include payments on a 22 Kia Stinger, the payoff of credit card balances on two cards, stage area seats,
an usher concert, elective cosmetic surgery, trips to New Orleans and Las Vegas, designer clothing
and accessories and rent payments totaling more than $266,000. Charging documents accuse Hopper
of listing her grandfather's pension and social security, making him a co-tenant to qualify
for an apartment at a luxury building steps from Union Market in Northeast DC. Police
say he remained in the nursing home during that time. Really, Erica, your 95-year-old grandfather
if your grandfather touching that kind of paper,
he probably got you in the will anyway.
If your grandfather touching that kind of paper,
you could have probably just asked them for what you want.
Then you get the money and spend it on a new car,
luxury apartment, cosmetic surgery,
but you got a BBL?
Luxury clothing, concert tickets, concert tickets?
Who did you go see the ratchet?
Oh, you wanted to have big fun on your grandfather's dime.
She actually went to go see Usher.
And didn't even get no cherries.
Now, I know you had power of attorney for your grandfather, Erica,
but that doesn't mean power to exploit.
Okay, we was just talking about this earlier
because Cardi B was on Jennifer Hudson saying how your kids are, you know,
going to take care of you when you get older.
They're supposed to.
You should be able to rely on family when you get older,
but you can't change a player's game in the ninth inning, okay?
Once the scammer, always a scammer, and no, Erica is not Nigerian.
I know you was thinking it, but a Nigerian would never do their grandfathers.
like this because Nigerians understand those who respect the elderly paved their own
road towards success.
The Bible even says you should submit to your elders with humility.
That's First Peter 5-5.
Erica, you was not humble.
You was arrogant.
Crazy thing is you wasn't scamming your grandfather.
You were scamming yourself.
Okay, what kind of soulless person steals from a 95-year-old, especially a person who was
probably going to leave you something anyway?
Elders are supposed to pass down blessings, not get bled dry by their own bloodlines.
Okay, I don't know who needs to hear this this morning, but please listen to your Uncle Shala.
Taking advantage of old folks ain't hustling, that's heartless.
Okay, if you'll rob your own grandfather, you'll rob anybody.
And that's why you have to, you, Erica, should have to deal with maximum consequences.
They need to make an example of you.
That man is 95.
He fought through segregation and probably two hip replacements.
Okay, he should not have to fight.
his own granddaughter for his bank account.
Please give Erica Hopper the sweet sounds of the hamletones.
Oh, now you are the donkey of the day.
You are the donkey of the day.
Yee-ha.
Got to make an example of her.
Now, I was thinking, I was thinking,
let me ask you a question.
What?
That's your granddaughter.
She stole from you.
It's wrong.
It's foul.
But do you press charges on your granddaughter to go to jail?
Now I got dementia.
I don't even remember.
Go ahead.
Y'all do what y'all do.
I don't know nothing.
Make sure my money back in my account.
That's your granddaughter.
Make sure my money back in my account and I don't remember her.
It's foul.
It's horrible.
But do you press charges on your granddaughter?
It's not about whether or not he pressing charges on her.
Some other family remember.
She's getting charges pressed on her because she committed a crime.
Well, some other family members.
Yeah, she needs some type of consequence.
Yes.
I mean, yeah.
Hey, you press charges on a little ass, man.
And then, like,
that's your grand daughter.
But she was probably in the will anyway,
if he's touching that type of paper.
Like, you don't even know.
That's crazy.
You don't know.
Because she's probably going to go to jail for some time, time.
Like, this ain't no 30 days.
She made a choice, man.
But that's your grand daughter.
She's a 45-year-old woman who made a choice.
Still your granddad.
Choices have consequences.
I agree, but still your granddaughter.
I don't care.
You know better.
What you're talking about?
Did she care about me?
As a grandfather when she was stealing from me?
No.
It was wrong.
Man, shut up.
But you still don't want you.
What would you do at 90 years old and Madison's daughter do this to you?
You 90.
I don't want her to go to jail.
What?
It's foul.
It's wrong.
I'm not saying I'm not saying it's right.
But you still don't want your granddaughter.
Your granddaughter?
All right.
Well, forget it.
And then, first of all, Charlemagne, who was thinking that it was Nigerian?
Why you had to say that?
Who said that?
You.
I'm tired of y'all accusing me of things I didn't say.
No, you did.
You said, and I know everybody thinking it's Nigerian.
Nobody, how you know what somebody thinking?
Never happened.
Roll the tape, never happened.
Never said that.
Never said that.
All right.
Well, thank you for that donkey today.
Fake news.
Now, when we come back, Shaka.
Just hilarious oaks.
I wouldn't say that.
When we come back, Shackas Agar is joining us.
He has a new book, How to Be Free, a proven guide to escaping life's hidden prison.
This is my guy.
He's also, he's a New York Times bestselling author.
I'm sure you've read some of Shaka's work before.
Me and Shaka was actually at Rikers Island a couple of days ago talking to the inmates
because, you know, that's what he does a lot of his work.
And he always shows up for me from my mental wealth exposed, man.
Just a really good brother.
And this book right here is really good because so many of us are trapped in hidden prisons that we cannot get out of.
And he has created a guide to help us get out of him.
All right.
We'll get to that next.
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Yes, indeed.
Chakas and Gore.
Welcome back, brother.
How are you feeling?
I'm blessed.
I'm blessed.
Thank you all so much for having me back.
Man, Chaka just put out an amazing new body of work, man.
A new book, How to Be Free, a proven guide to escaping life's hidden prisons, man.
What is a hidden prison?
It's the things that you don't see that, stand in a way of you living the best life for yourself, right?
So when I thought about this big idea and created this kind of blueprint to help people live the life that they're fully capable of work.
and fully deserving of, I recognize
that we all had these hidden prisons, you know,
self-doubt, negative self-talk.
You know, that's one of the big things
that kind of stand in the way. But it's also
things like anger, grief,
shame, things from our childhood
that really doesn't allow us to show up
fully and authentically
in our full potential.
You know, I wanted to, I know you got the book out,
but there's a lot that's been going on, and I figured
you would be the right person to ask
some questions about.
For sure. Everything going on in Atlanta, it seems like,
people, I wouldn't say, glorify the street and glorify
things that happen in the street. And I feel like sometimes people
don't know how to get out of it, right? You see what happened in Atlanta? Everybody's a snitch. This person's a rat.
When do you get to an age? When do you tell those young as it says, hey,
it's not worth it? We see what's happening, but it seems like they don't learn their lesson.
So what do you tell one of those little young brothers out there?
That's a prison that's not hitting.
But they're in it. I think one of the things with our culture specifically, like
hip-hop culture is we've kind of intermingled the idea that these guys are really street guys
and really they artists, their kids who are trying to figure out how to make money using
a talent, but also using the stories from a background that society has sold us on as being
like the way to show up in the world, right? Like the only way we can make it. And what I tell
the young people is that it's made way more money in legitimate enterprise. And like I was
pretty decent with street sales, but I can tell you I make way more money in legitimate
the enterprise and the accessibility
to it now is something we see
I mean like when you can take a phone
and build a whole career right
and so I think we have to separate like
what's really the streets from like what's
music culture and these kids pretending
to be street guys because
it's kind of ridiculous if you think about it
if you're making all this money and music
then why are you going backwards
because it's not many guys that's really
financially successful coming for the streets
like and I mean you talk to
any other guys that actually are
you know,
recognized from being in that environment,
they'll tell you most guys don't make real money in the streets.
Most guys are basically minimum wage, you know, workers.
So if you're making all this legitimate money and music,
why would you kind of try to intermingle that with this identity that's not real?
Man, that's a great point.
And what do you say to people who act like the streets is an industry?
And what I mean by that is you'll have folks that will say things to you like,
well, who determines what's legal and illegal?
Who determines what's right and what's wrong?
because they'll say, there's people out here that make money selling alcohol.
There's people that's out here that's making money selling marijuana now.
I'm like, that's not the same.
Like, the screeches is not a real industry.
Yeah, no, I mean, it's a kind of dispersed industry, right?
It's like anything goes.
But when you look at how, you know, for example, the marijuana industry, right,
how that's evolved to become legitimate enterprise, right?
Like, that's where we should be focusing.
How do we change laws and policies to work to our advantage?
instead of being, you know, victimized by these policies
and then somebody else reaps all the benefits.
And so, you know, I'm always telling, you know,
the young people that I mentor is really think about
how do you get ownership and whatever it is you're interested in?
Like that's, I've been in Silicon Valley for three years,
which actually was one of the inspirations for writing this book
because I work with people that's like ultra wealthy
and yet I see them have kind of like some of the same prisons
that, you know, I see people in the neighborhood.
I've seen people who was actually in real prison
have that same kind of mental blocks
that doesn't allow them to show up authentically
even though it looks like they got all the traps
of the success, they're still not happy and fulfilled.
So that's, to me, it's more like how are you getting equity
but also how are you creating like the mental equity
to really live the life that you want to live?
I got one more question with that.
Is there a cold when it comes to the street, in your opinion?
But we had a conversation about cold.
Is there a code?
Is there a code that you're supposed to follow?
Or is it just, is it illegal action?
activity, you know, I mean, or is there something that, the guidelines that should be followed?
I mean, I grew up in the era of, like, crack cocaine, so I can't speak to, if there's
codes. Now, I haven't been in the streets in, like, 37 years. I'm 53 years old, man,
successful business, man. I'm an entrepreneur, married, I got a kid, I got investments.
But I do, you know, I mean, I still do a lot of work with people in prison and in the neighborhoods,
and, you know, I kind of know that. The codes are really your personal values, right? Everybody
can say that they're real into them handcuffs
going to you in that interrogation room
and you're really facing a life sentence
and that's what we don't talk about
is how many different ways
you can end up serving life
without actually even really doing
anything meaningful just by associations
right? You know when you're talking about those
RICO charges a lot of these guys
not making real money they're just around
and then you get swooped up
and the way the feds players they're going to load
up everything they can charge you with
and then most likely you'll plead out which is like
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But yeah, I don't, I stay out the streets.
I'm out here just being a grown, married man.
We try to tell these youngers that to stay out the streets.
Absolutely.
Like, you know, I mean, it ain't worth it.
And any little bit of money you were going to make or any little bit of cloutre you
going to make ain't worth the 10 life sentences, two life sentences,
or one life sentence.
You know what I mean?
It ain't worth it missing your family.
Your wife, your kids.
It ain't worth it, man.
You know, the 19 years in prison that I serve, I watched life go back.
You know, I came home.
My younger siblings were adults.
My nephews and nieces didn't even know me.
You know, they had to get to know me.
And so you can't replace those years.
You know, there's nothing you can do to get that time back.
And this is what I can tell you for sure about prison life is the toughest break under those circumstances.
Everybody, when they, when they hit that pillow at night, they're wishing.
that they would have made different life choices, you know what I mean?
So I wouldn't wish that on anybody.
And I try to discourage, guys.
I think one of the things I will say that I'm proud of that I'm starting to see in our culture
is more interest being, you know, placed on actually legitimate financial investments.
You know, I think about what the young brother is doing on your leisure.
You know, I think about Walo and some of the brothers I've been able to interact with.
And I'm like, yo, that's a move right there because it's still cool.
At the end of the day, if it's really about making money,
investments is a way to make a lot of money, you know, and that's the freedom that I even talk about in the book is like financial freedom.
You know, how are you taking advantage of these opportunities that's really right in front of you?
And, you know, my philosophy is simple.
I came from 19 years in prison, seven years in solitary confinement to become really, really successful, not only as an author, but also as an investor.
So my philosophy is like, if I can do it coming from those circumstances, what excuse you got?
You know what I mean?
So I tell my mentees, you got to take every excuse off the table because I've done all the hard work for you.
And that's, you know, that's what I've done in this book.
It's like, here's a framework and a blueprint for you to literally live the freest life possible.
We're still kicking in a shock to Succoor.
His new book, How to Be Free, A Proven Guide to Escape in Life's Hidden Prisons.
Sholomey.
One of the biggest hidden prisons I see is people, you know, being defined by their past mistakes.
Or not knowing how to let go of their past mistakes.
So how do you keep from being defined by your own?
past mistakes when the system and sometimes even your own people want to keep you stuck
there. Man, I stay out the comment section. It's brutal out there, man. No, but really it's a lot of
self-affirming care, right? It's like negative self-talk is one of the biggest self-imposed
prisons I've found where even successful people are doubting themselves or, you know, dealing with
imposter syndrome. Like, why do I, why am I in this room? Do I really belong in this room? And so
for me, you know, the way that I've kind of
map my life out is really through
writing it down, like, journalists, one of the
greatest hacks in life. It's like,
when you see it, you can be super clear on
hey, here's who I actually am, not who they say
I am. I get judged all the time.
Like, why are you able to do
some of these things? You know, you went to
prison for a homicide. You know, it's
one of the most regrettable
acts in my life, and it's something I could
never undo, which is why
I'm so conscious about talking to
the young guys about the decisions that they make.
And I've also lived 15 years of freedom where I've been able to create, you know, a lot of value for communities that I'm in.
I've invested in a community in the real way.
And so I've done way more good than I've done bad.
But the reality is people are going to bring that up.
You know, they're going to judge you for that.
And so that's why that self-talk is so important.
And journaling and really writing it down and getting super clear about who you are really is what makes the world a different.
Do you feel like trauma is the root of all hidden prisons?
I think trauma is one of the core anchoring pieces of the hidden prisons.
You know, a lot of how we see our lives has been shaped by our childhood.
And there's like big trauma and small trauma, right?
But I think it's really shaped by just negative experiences.
Because some don't quite rise to the level of trauma.
But they do rise to the level of like making you think about something in a way that's unpleasant.
And I think that's where a lot of the negative self-talk comes.
comes from. It's like, you know, you're in an environment, somebody's like, oh, you can't accomplish that.
And now you've adopted, that's not necessarily trauma is just negative input. But now it has you
questioning whether you can accomplish a thing or not, right? And so I think there's like the kind
of big trauma. And then there's like this kind of small negative inputs. How do we use your new
book, how to be free to shift from telling young people, especially young brothers, to do better,
that are actually creating healing spaces that deal with that trauma?
That's a great question.
I think we saw a lot of that yesterday when we was at Riker.
So one of the things that I've done with this book is I started the largest book club in prisons.
So we gave the book away to 1,300 prisons to about a million people who are incarcerated.
Because I want to make sure that they had access to this information and this framework
so that they can live the most free life possible, even though their circumstances doesn't look free.
And I think what we do is we start a study group.
You know, we start to really have these deep conversations.
And, like, it was mind-blowing to see how the people who are incarcerated leaned into this book specifically.
They had questions.
They had thoughts.
They had all these things because we did create a real framework within the book for them to kind of, you know, guide the conversation.
And it was amazing, you know what I'm saying, to really see how they played out.
And I would love to do that out here where we started to connect the dots, you know, especially in our culture where it's like, it's wow.
Sometimes when I think about rapping all the things that they're rapping about, I'm like, I really live that life, but I may not be the person that they see as being accessible because I'm not over indexing on my past.
I'm like, listen, I'm living a whole different life, and I want to bring you to this part of it, not that old life, you know what I mean?
But I think this is a book opportunity that, you know, I would love to see more brothers and sisters in the culture, like starting study groups and think tanks around this framework because it really is one of those problems.
And we don't have nothing like it in our culture, right?
Like, you know, when I was set out to write this particular book,
I really was like, man, I thought about the books that helped me in my life
while I was incarcerated as a man think of the secret man,
search for meaning all these books.
And I didn't see any book that was authored by somebody
who really had lived and experienced that I had lived.
And so I was like, oh, it's up to me to create that.
And that's how we ended up with this book.
And shout out to my brother, Ben Horowitz,
actually encouraged me to write a lesson book, which was really powerful and impactful.
Is the desire to be accepted a hidden prison?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, I think it's one of the biggest hidden prisons is that we're, and it's really who are
you trying to be accepted by, and what do you think that they have that you don't have
inside yourself?
And I think when you begin to strengthen your sense of who you are as a human being, then
you would draw to you what you need, but you won't go out seeking.
acceptance from any and everybody
the book is out right now
and thank you for inviting me to Rikers yesterday
man Shacko was climbing me because I took security
to Rikers
he took a security personnel
in an environment
I didn't think about it
8,000 yo it was wild
I don't practice bad habits
was that weird
I was laughing the whole way
as I was thinking about what is going to happen
when it's security walk in
and it's like literally hundreds of officers
that are armed
And I'm like, Solomon, you're rolling in here with me, man.
What is you doing?
I ain't even think about it.
You're good in any hood.
You're good in any prison hood when you're rolling with me, bro.
I understand that.
I didn't think.
I don't practice bad habits, you know what I'm saying?
You need to move, you move a certain way.
That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
But that was stupid.
Right, and then we didn't make no sense.
He took his fire on when he gave him.
And you know, he used to be a cop.
So I was like, yo, you ever wanted to be a CEO of Rikers?
He was like, hell.
Jesus Christ.
He's also doing your wealth expo.
Yeah.
No, not this shit.
I'm on a book tour this year.
I'm going to miss it, man.
I've done it a couple of years.
That's what I'm so used to say.
Man, it's one of the best, best experience.
So I really encourage everybody to go check it out.
And we're going to do one on Rikers Island.
We're going to definitely do one on Rikers Island.
Yeah, we're going to make that happen.
But, you know, I'm glad you did bring that up, though,
because even though Shaka's not doing it this year,
the years he's done it, it was such an important,
it was so important to have you there as well as Wallow,
because to your point, every year that we did it,
there was always people there who had either,
just got out of prison or got
people who are in prison right now
and we don't understand how that impacts
their mentor, especially brothers that just came
home. Yeah, yeah. It's still
institutionalized. And there were people
like literally saying, you know, y'all need to add
this component to the mental welfare expo
because those are the people that are dealing with it
absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.
And I'll definitely be there next year. I'm
so sad to be missing this one, but
I'm super excited to be out on tour with
the book and celebrating
man, it's book number three, man. So I'm
This is, it's actually surreal, you know, and you know you've written books.
You know how hard it is to get a book, book out in the world.
So, I'm super proud.
What did Oprah Cook, you were there a few weeks ago, man?
I saw y'all, I saw y'all holding hands.
You had your hand braided on, nice of meat, back with you?
Man, you know, the wild thing about the relationship with Oprah is we're generally friends, man.
And, like, when I first wrote my book, I don't know if I told you the story of me,
but I wrote my first book in Solitary.
And I was like, yo, anybody want to read this book?
And the guy was like, man, this ain't.
oh, don't nobody want to read that shit?
And I was like, damn, I was like, that was cold,
but then I wrote it down as a goal.
Open and read three of my books
and invited me to her home multiple times.
And said that you were her greatest interview ever.
Imagine Open Winfrey saying that about you.
Just my greatest interview ever.
Wow.
Yeah.
And then we became real friends, man.
So that's my girl.
And I shout her out all the time.
And she always reaches out.
I'm sure she'll be like,
congrats on Pub Day Shockey, you know.
So she's genuinely, she's who she's.
says she is.
Love it. What did she cook, though? What did y'all?
Oh, she didn't cook. We didn't eat. Okay, okay, okay.
No tequila at the time. We was working. It was, it was great.
Hungry, man. No, I'm saying. She likes Cassa-Dragonas.
No, she actually sent me a couple of few bottles, though. She up my game on the tequila some
years ago. She asked me what my favorite was. I told her. She was like, eh.
Let me send you, let me send you something. And she sent me three bottles with my name
on that. I bet she was Cathedragonis.
Absolutely. And I drunk all three of them.
Jesus, all right.
Not at the same time, I figured that.
Well, pick up the book, How to Be Free.
A Proven Guide to Escaping Life's Hidden Prison.
Don't forget that part.
Everybody got a hidden prison.
That's right.
For every hidden prison, there's a door, and this book is the key.
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So yesterday, yeah, I started with this.
Yesterday, I went to Harlem Fashion, Harlem's Fashion Rose kickoff to New York Fashion Week.
It was a many fashion show, but it was also the style awards.
And they honored Ruth E. Carter, a ton of different people, but they also took the time to honor Usher.
He received the Virgil Ablo Award, which was a huge award of the evening.
Let's take a listen to Usher as he accepts the award.
It's a philosophy that, believe it or not, I don't know that I meant to adopt it, but Virgil had this idea.
You guys know about the 3% rule.
and this idea that innovation really starts
by altering something that is familiar, 3%.
So that right there became kind of a model
for how I would view what I was introducing again,
but I introduced it with what many of people in my team
called my ambition of just looking up
while they look right and live
and always have my best interest in my back.
I just dream and I see something that I think,
is a little bit better yeah so the the reason why this award is uh so impactful is because
harlem's fashion row um for years now and they've grown into such a big business and big company
they've been spotlighting black artists creatives influencers just people who are black and you know
when it comes to fashion we people always say we need to have a seat at the table their thing has always
been we don't need a seat at the table we're building the table so y'all can come because this is the
table and they spotlighted usher because of all the strides that he's made in music but
But Virgil Ablo, as we know, was such a big force in fashion as a black creative.
So they honor him with this award now, and Usher received it.
But one of the things that was big that Usher talked about was why it meant so much to him to receive the award in Virgil's name.
And Virgil's 3% rule.
Let's take a listen to that.
My pop, my nanny, my nanny, my aunt, Polly, and Uncle George.
And all of these people who were really significant parts of my ambitions to name.
ageous little kid who wasn't raised with the father.
But they taught me the dream.
They taught me to run wild and use my imagination in fashion and all of those things.
And although I didn't know that's what I was doing,
I found my being around them understanding the culture of the South.
And, you know, what it is to be proud of something.
I'm happy that the Lord has given me this opportunity to do what I do.
I recognize him over more than anything
for being saved it to me in my hardest moments and times.
That switched to audio, sorry y'all, but yeah, so
Usher talking about the South and what this meant to him
was also important too because they talked a lot about
HBCUs, and you guys know I was just at Dell State yesterday
and how in the South, but also just, you know, here on the East Coast,
putting money into black students which Harlem's fashion row is doing a lot of.
They have a huge investment fund that they do is important.
So wanted to give Usher, you know, congratulations there.
I was there.
Harlem's Fashion Root Take took really good care of me.
Shout out to Brandis and all of her team last night.
Slick Rick was there as well, too.
There were so many people in the building last night to support the organization.
Drop on the clues bombs for Usher.
Usher can't never get enough flowers if you ask me.
Yeah.
That man is an icon living.
And, you know, when people have achieved everything that, you know,
guys like Usher have achieved, they should be celebrated.
Oh, yeah.
Often.
Every chance they get.
Every single chance they get.
And I think it's fired, too, because he's been supporting this organization
before it was even a huge organization
to support, which always means a lot.
Now, shifting gears, speaking of creators,
Kaisenet, you guys remember, he reviewed Drake's...
I'm glad that we're finally saying his name, right?
We've been saying his name.
You've been saying Sadat for so low.
I know, and I'd be trying to...
Sometimes I still slip up and do it, but then I try to make sure I don't,
but yeah, we've been saying it wrong for a very long time.
But Kaisenet, he's responding to Drake.
So Drake posted Kaizenet's top of his head, right?
His forehead, yeah.
It was his forehead, but...
more so it was the fact that he has
dreds with a low cut
so there's this photo
posting online make sure you guys go take a look at it in the room
so you can see it as well that Drake
posted on his like swipe through and
Kai's hair is like low in the middle but then he has
dreds coming out the side and he sees
this and this is because remember Kai got on stream
and said he felt like the Iceman
part three episode was trash
he's been a huge Drake fan that we know
of so this is Drake because you're a fan of
somebody when they put out something that's wack you can't say
it's trash and you can't be honest
You can't be honest about it.
Not these days.
I mean, now, oh, you're a Drake Hater.
No, you should be able to say if I like a record or if I don't like a record.
I'm still a fan of that artist.
I just don't like that song.
Yes, I do think people were calling him a Drake Hater, but I think it's, but Kai is always very, like, neutral.
If he likes something, he like it, if he don't, he don't and whatever.
But his response to Drake posting him in response to him responding to Drake was funny.
Let's take a listen to Kai.
Why would he post this up?
Drake!
I'm calling him right now.
I'm so like that, I'm calling him right now.
I haven't supposed to him in so long.
It's not ringing.
Your call has been forwarded.
I don't be for Drake.
But why is he posting my shit like this?
Come on!
That's why even.
You think bodies, God.
It's going to go.
It's going to go.
It don't matter.
People want to go see the picture and be like, wow.
You need to hit.
This is a retwist.
And never even know what the .
What happened.
They see this, bro.
They ain't know why they didn't have a retweet.
They didn't get a retrace because it was working on a shit.
So what was funny?
I missed it.
It was funny.
You got to see the picture.
Did you see the movie?
I saw the picture, but it was funny because, right, Jess.
Thank you for the face because if you listen, you know it's funny.
And his friend is sitting next to him trying to make him feel better.
But low key, he's making him feel worse.
He called Drake first.
It rang international.
Drake didn't answer.
So somebody on the chat said call him FaceTime.
So you FaceTime audio.
He still didn't answer yet.
All I know is I know that hurt Drake's soul because Drake wants the validation of them young
screamer so bad. So when you
got one of the biggest guys, Kai
Sinette, saying that
Ice Man was trash, oh, I know that ice melted
quick. See, I don't understand that
you're an artist, right? You're going to put out a lot
of records and everybody's not going to connect with
old records. Everybody told us a long time ago, just because
you're an artist and I'm sensitive about my
But I love you as an artist, I just don't like this record.
But why can't this just be Drake just responding?
He ain't blocked, Kai. Kai said he wasn't blocked.
Right. And then to be honest with you, I thought
it was like some type of promo, maybe Drake will end up
on the marathon that Kai
I honestly thought it was that.
It could be.
It just doesn't say malicious, nothing crazy, just a little jokey choke.
They've been promoting him on that, I wouldn't be surprised.
They've been promoting Akai and Drake's scream.
It seemed like, oh, yeah, that never happened.
It doesn't happen.
So we'll see what happens.
But I also, too, wanted to talk about Marla Wayans on Kaizen's Dream.
Hilarious.
Oh, my God.
I love to watch the marrying of the two.
He is MVP of Mafia Thon, in my opinion.
There are so many different moments we could have pulled from this
that were hilarious, but let's take a listen to
they were freestyling. It was Reggie
and Marlon Wands going back from front of freestyle. Let's take a listen.
Then he went and
touched her on a thigh.
We're going to cry.
Let's do this in these streets.
Let's do this in the rap.
Let's do it on the beach.
Let's pull out our mrs.
What the whole
is you talking about?
You know why people like Marlon
Williams and Kevin Hart go on there
and actually, Akiki Pama going there and actually do
because they got talent because they're funny because they've been in movies they've been on TV
and they've been doing this for a long long long long long long time and also too I think
when you see regular guests like other music artists come even though they watch the stream
and they know the segments guys are going to do they always act like they don't know how to jump in
and participate marlin they they come from the variety show was the best one thus far no he had
other bomb guests and all of that like marlin is just just belongs right you know what
I mean? That was so funny.
I do think it was rather random how
Marlon was there with
Kaylani, like how Kaylani came in
while Marlon was there. I thought that was random as hell.
And also, too, those artists and athletes can't do what the actors
and comedians do. Like, but an artist
ain't going to never be on the level of talent as a
Marlin, or Kevin, R. Kevin, R. Kiki Poma.
They're artists. They can rap and sing
until dance. Like, if in living color
could meet stream, like, it was
it was really good. I watched it.
Yeah, right, like you said, if the living color could have met streamed, that would be funny.
Yeah, right.
Well, that is the latest with Lauren.
Let's get to the mix.
It's the breakfast club.
Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ NV.
Jess Hilarie.
Sholomaine the guy.
We are the breakfast club.
We had a lot of people that stopped through.
We had our Jermaine Dupree that stopped through earlier.
Yes, indeed.
Salute to Jermaine Dupree, man.
Listen, Jermaine Dupre is one of those individuals that you're not going to appreciate talking to until a long, long, long, long time.
from now because people don't realize how legendary
germane dupree actually is we're such a prisoner of the moment
people that we forget what people have accomplished
what he's done in this industry that's right so when they get celebrated and
billboard says yo jameen dupre is the number one producer of the 21st century
people who might look at it and be like what and like no go look at his resume
stupid no did y'all ask him i saying something that went viral like a couple weeks
ago did y'all get to ask him um did he really say that escape was a hard group
to develop because they was ugly.
Oh, we talked about that before.
Yeah, no, that wasn't.
Okay.
We didn't talk about this interview, but we didn't say ugly, though, but yeah.
But he's, no, no, no, I know y'all didn't say.
Somebody said that he said it.
Yeah, he did.
He's always had stuff like that.
Oh, okay.
Because, you know, they were like,
well, he had three dogs getting members of escape in the 90s.
So he's, I heard him talking about that before.
Even up here, he's talking about it.
Oh, okay, cool.
I just never heard him speak on.
I just heard that he said it.
Because remember Biggie said in a song back in the day,
he would have sex with Rupal before he had sex with them
ugly ass escape girl wow and no he did not no he did not what he definitely yes yes wow okay
i'm gonna send you the song let's go dreams i'm gonna send you this all the song wow
nobody said nothing not back then i mean but but we didn't realize how much that impacted them
back then because you know you didn't have the internet and all that kind of stuff right well yes
no no no nobody said nothing about him wanting to have sexual rapport oh no this was the 90s different times
Okay. All right. Also, Shaka's and God for joining us this morning.
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Charlemann, you got a positive note.
I do, man.
It's simple.
Do not confuse motion and progress.
Okay?
Because a rocking horse keeps moving,
but does not make any progress.
Have a great day.
That was the dumbest.
No.
Find another one.
What are you talking about?
You'll get it.
One day you'll get it.
A rocking horse don't move.
I didn't say that.
I said a rocking horse.
keeps moving, but it's not making any progress.
It don't go nowhere.
It's like being on a treadmill running in place.
You think you're getting somewhere, but you're going nowhere fast.
But you work it out?
You're not going nowhere.
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