The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Quavo Responds To Chris Brown With New Diss Track; Chris Brown Reacts, Kanye Goes Off On Drake & Cole In New Interview + More

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water,
Starting point is 00:00:46 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zaka Stan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-A-S-T-A-N on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best, and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro, host of the hit podcast, Family Secrets. How would you feel if when you met your biological father for the first time, he didn't even say hello? And what if your past itself was a secret and the time had suddenly come to share that past with your child? These are just a few of the powerful and profound questions we'll be asking on our 11th season of Family Secrets. Listen to season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host.
Starting point is 00:02:13 And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You guys, this is history. What you've done, what it shows. You guys have built a platform that influences. You gotta work. Man, it's the world's most dangerous morning show.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Wake the fuck up, Breakfast Club. DJ Envy. Envy playing my record, I made it. Jess Hilarious. Jess, he would. She don't spare nobody. Charlamagne Degas. What made you think the liking of Controversial Questions would take this far?
Starting point is 00:03:01 I like this show. Thanks, Breakfast Club. Good morning, USA. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Breakfast Club. Good morning, USA. morning what's happening how y'all feel out there i'm blessed black and holly favorite what's happening how you feeling jess i feel good yeah i feel good yes i didn't get enough rest but i feel you're resting for two you do know that we pray i know but what was you doing watching judge judy judge judy yes oh my gosh she got this new show it's called judy justice and it's the same thing it's basically you know her solving crime and all that you know being a judge but it is so good she's actually nicer she'd be saying thank you to the bailiff now. Really?
Starting point is 00:03:46 And everything. Wow. Yeah, yeah. She's not as hot up as she used to be, but she still don't be playing around. The Screech want Judge Judy to come from behind the desk, man. That's what the Screech want. That's what the Screech want? Why do the Screech want her to come from behind the desk?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Because she thick-eyed. That's why. Because she thick-eyed. She is cakey. She is. She is. And she 81 years old, so think about that, Streets. Yes, when I said that last week, our boy that I've read pulled the picture up.
Starting point is 00:04:10 He couldn't believe it. Yeah, nah, I couldn't believe it either. He was like, is this photo? Is this AI? I'm like, nah, bro. Just Judy been around way longer than AI. That's real. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Well, salute to the New York Knicks. They pulled it out last night. They beat the 76ers 104-01, and then I watched the Laker game. That's the reason why I'm tired. They pulled it out last night. They beat the 76ers 104-01. And then I watched the Lakers game. That's the reason why I'm tired. I was up late last night watching basketball. There's no reason to stay up and watch the Lakers game. They were both good games.
Starting point is 00:04:32 There's going to be no upsets in the Lakers Nuggets series. That's going to be a clean sweep. They was up by 20 at one point. Well, that's going to be a clean sweep. Lakers might can get one. Maybe. I doubt it, though. I don't know. It's good basketball. Good basketball, though. All right. Well, let's get one. Maybe. I doubt it, though. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It's good basketball. Good basketball, though. All right. Well, let's get the show cracking. Bakari Sellers will be joining us this morning. My South Carolina brethren. He got a new book out, The Moment. The Moment.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Thoughts on the race reckoning that wasn't and how we all can move forward now. That's right. So we'll talk to him in a little bit. And then when we come back, we got front page news. We'll tell you about Donald Trump. He's pissed off. He's like, I can't get out out there i can't do what i need to do i need to let people know that i'm running and this court stuff is really effing it up jesus but he has to it's court like you can't skip it well he would like to it's the breakfast club good morning
Starting point is 00:05:17 morning everybody button then turn breakfast club because they want to wake up morning everybody we are the breakfast go back to sleep. Let's get into front page news. Good morning. All right, let's start with the New York Knicks. Like we just said, NBA, the Knicks beat the 76ers 104-101. They were losing by six with 54 seconds left and came back and won that game. The Lakers lost to the Nuggets last night 101-99.
Starting point is 00:05:44 It was a buzzer beater, and the Nuggets won. Cavaliers beat the Magic 96-86. Now, Trump was back in court. He's tired of being in court, man. He's saying this is just a witch hunt and he needs to be on the road and actually making sure that people know that he's running for president. Mr. Trump has
Starting point is 00:06:00 pleaded not guilty to charges of falsifying business records to conceal a hush money payment to cover up an alleged affair with a porn star when prosecutors say he was in damage control after the release of the access hollywood tape just before the 2016 election quote this case is about criminal conspiracy arguing mr trump colluded with his former fixer, Michael Cohen, to catch and kill negative stories to influence the election. Quote, then he covered up that criminal conspiracy by lying in his New York business records
Starting point is 00:06:34 over and over and over again. Former President Trump's defense attorney noted he was not charged with conspiracy here. He attacked Cohen's integrity and said the former president was innocent, insisting he had nothing to do with the Cohen payments and adding, quote, I have a spoiler alert. There's nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. It's called democracy. Listen, man, him saying that, him saying that about, you know, how he should be on the campaign trail. Yeah, that's the best campaign he can possibly do because Trump controls the media.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Every narrative is about him. Every storyline is about him. And none of this stuff is hurting him in any way. The people who support Trump will support him regardless. He's on the front page of every newspaper. You know, he's every headline. I have no idea what President Biden did yesterday. And you know whose fault that is?
Starting point is 00:07:22 The media. Well, also, they said that the gag order that he has might come into play a little bit and might be hurtful for him because he's still online posting. He's still on his own line posting, so they're saying that might come into play. Prosecutors said he violated his gag order ten times and ain't nobody gonna do nothing about it. So what does it matter?
Starting point is 00:07:38 What does it matter? None of that stuff matters if you're not gonna give these people the consequences, or give Trump the consequences and repercussions that he should get for violating a gag order. He violated it 10 times already, prosecutors said, and ain't nobody going to do nothing. All right. Now, also, we tell you about Columbia University and the students protesting yesterday. Over 100 people were arrested.
Starting point is 00:07:57 But now this is happening all over the country. It happened last night at NYU, and a lot of colleges are very nervous and going to online teaching. Well, like I said, it happened to a bunch of universities yesterday. Tonight, tension across major American college campuses. If you do not leave, you will be arrested. Students setting up
Starting point is 00:08:18 encampments from University of North Carolina to MIT. Harvard's yard closed until Friday. We shall not be moved. All of it as fury over the Israel-Hamas war boils over, with students expressing fear for their personal safety and concern for anti-Semitic hate speech, raising new questions about the line between hate speech and the First Amendment. We're asking for the school to call for a ceasefire in Gaza.
Starting point is 00:08:42 This morning, police say at least 45 pro-Palestinian protesters were arrested at Yale University for violating Yale's policies and instructions. Police say they were later released. Meanwhile, at Columbia, today's classes were online only, with the university's president calling for a reset to de-escalate the rancor, while also adding more than 100 safety personnel to campus
Starting point is 00:09:04 after more than 100 protesters were arrested last week i mean they have the right to peacefully protest that is their right yeah they're doing it all across the country and like i said the universities are getting nervous so they're doing a lot of virtual classes and we don't we do know i think there's like three weeks left or two weeks left in classes so and they out there protesting what's happening in gaza they're calling what's going on in gaza a genocide and guess who they blaming for it president biden i don't know how all this is going to play out in november but boy oh boy yeah boy oh boy all right well that is front page news next hour we will we will tell you about president biden he will be speaking at morehouse college and people mad about that
Starting point is 00:09:43 doing a commencement and people don't want to hear. People are pissed off about that. We'll tell you about that when we come back. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset and you need to vent, call us up right now. Again, 800-585-1051. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:09:59 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning, this is Latoya.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Hey, Latoya, get it off your chest. Okay, I'm a delivery driver for Walmart, and I just want to get off my chest these customers when i'm at the door they know i'm at the door and they open the door and they dogs come out like you know i'm at the door why would you let your dog out gotta make sure gotta make sure it's all peaches and cream gotta make sure you are who you say you are that's all a little added protection and didn't expect for me to grab them because they running. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Well, hopefully you get bit one day and it don't cause too much damage and you get a nice little lawsuit. Because they got to warn you about the dog. They're not supposed to just let their dog out on you now. Well, you know what happened when they opened the door to get the package, a lot of times the dog just ran out. No, they know that dog behind them. They should know better. And they know how they dog are. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:04 And how they dogs are. Right. They come to the door first when they read when i ring the doorbell so yeah and depending what kind of day depending what time of day it is it might have been a long day for you dog might smell fish be a little hungry when you come to the door tell him you don't smell like fish mama tell him you don't smell like fish no i don't smell like fish. And my uniform is always clean. There you go. That's right. That's right. Have a good one, my friend. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Hello, who's this? This is Jay from St. Stephen's, South Carolina. How are you? Hey, 843, what's happening? Jay, what up? Get it off your chest. Yeah, I was listening to Charlamagne, and we do have the right to protest in peace,
Starting point is 00:11:43 but I've seen some of the protesters bump chests with the officer and et cetera. And it's amazing how certain people can protest and bump the cops and get in their face and do things and they restrain. Don't say certain people. Say white people. It's okay. I'm an activist, so I try to Guard the words That I use carefully
Starting point is 00:12:07 You know But you know exactly What I'm saying And it's amazing All over I was seeing Different places They actually
Starting point is 00:12:15 Push the cops And I seen one guy Kick the cop And the cop Just pushed him back And you and I both know If it was the way Of them
Starting point is 00:12:23 Around They would have gone to jail. If it was a black person who kicked a cop, they'd be hashtagging his name this morning. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's amazing how they can restrain themselves from certain things and certain races. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:37 That's right. Well, thank you for checking in, brother. Be blessed, my brother. Salute to everybody in St. Stephen, man. Salute to all the Baileys in St. Stephen. Hello, who's this? Hello, this is Carl. How y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:12:46 John, what up? Get it off your chest. What's up? What's going on? I'd like to get this off my chest. First of all, yo, I'm not a fan of any of y'all, but I respect your platform. Thank you. My first time on the radio, and I'd like to say, Charlamagne, you was right.
Starting point is 00:12:59 While we playing all this slow music early in the morning, we drive to wake up. All y'all doing is putting us to sleep. Too many commercials in the morning. But I love y'all All y'all doing is putting us to sleep. Too many commercials in the morning. But I love y'all. God bless y'all. Thank you for everything. That's right.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Me too. I had to be asleep. I'm here for all the commercials. Yeah, the commercials. We need the commercials. Yeah, but not the slow music. Yeah, we definitely need the commercials.
Starting point is 00:13:16 But slow music, I agree. I try to change that in the morning first so I don't get too slow every morning. I don't get it. All right. Well, get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:13:24 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast too slow every morning. I don't get it. All right. Well, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wait.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed. It's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Brianna.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Hey, get it off your chest, mama. At first, I just wanted to say good morning to you, DJ Envy, Jess, and Shana Baines. Thank you. Good morning. I just wanted to say good morning. But now that I was on hold, they, I suggested, just suggested, they should put us on hold with some good music. They had me listening to like 411 Pain and, does anybody want to listen to that when they're on hold? 411 Pain, what is that?
Starting point is 00:14:14 That's the little commercial. That's actual radio people. They put us on hold. I don't know. And they make a business call these ads. I don't know nothing about radio, man. Oh, when they call up. Oh, they put ads on? That's smart, though,
Starting point is 00:14:25 because if you're on hold, you just got to listen to ads the whole time. That's pretty smart. Did they tell you to come to the second annual? No, that's not smart. I want to listen to some music. Did they tell you to come to the second annual Black Effect Podcast Festival this Saturday in Atlanta? No, it didn't say nothing like that. Well, I don't like it then. It's whack. You don't like it then?
Starting point is 00:14:41 Well, Bri, you have a good morning, mama. No, you said, but you don't want to... You forgot what you wanted to talk about? No, she just said she just called to take a moment. Exactly. Oh, okay. Well a good morning mama No you said But you don't want to You forgot what you wanted to talk about No she just said She just called to take a moment No I Exactly Oh okay well good morning
Starting point is 00:14:49 Good morning Y'all have a good day You too You too Peaches Hello Is your name Peaches No my name's Jay
Starting point is 00:14:56 Oh I'm sorry We'll get it off your chest Your name what CJ Hey CJ how are you I'm fine how are you I'm blessed black and highly favored As you always say.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yes, ma'am. I love y'all listening. I'm taking you on a date. This is what I want to get off my chest. My best friend and I have been together for about five years. He's 47 years old. He's 46 to be exact. He went through something traumatic, but it's like it diverted him and turned him into a child again.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Like he's back out here in the street doing little boy shit, and I don't like it. And that's why I wanted to get off my chest. Okay, what do you mean he do a little boy? Don't curse him. What does he do a little boy is? He's out there sleeping around? Any? Oh, he's sleeping around.
Starting point is 00:15:42 We'll just say hustling. Oh, you're back selling dope? Yep, and he's bigger we'll just say hustling. Oh, you back selling dope? Yep, and he's bigger than that and better than that. Well, you got to call the police on him. Don't you call the police. What's wrong with you, man? Don't you call the police. He ain't doing nothing but being out here cheating on you,
Starting point is 00:15:56 and he going to jail anyway. Just go ahead and call the police on him, man. Mm-hmm. I'll pay the advice. Record this and play it for him, but don't call the boys on him, man. I'll pay the advice. Record this and play it for him, but don't call the boys on him. I'm on death's will. I don't want to
Starting point is 00:16:13 get to kill this one. You ain't going to do nothing but catch a conspiracy charge fooling around with this little boy. Have a good one, mama. He got a big age and a little boy mentality. First of all Black men don't cheat Second of all
Starting point is 00:16:26 He 40 plus years old And he back selling dope Just leave You ain't gotta call No boys Just leave Black men do cheat No black boys cheat
Starting point is 00:16:35 Black men don't cheat You're right about that Alright Old ass boys out here man That's right Call the police Call the cops for that guy Get it off your chest
Starting point is 00:16:43 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. Now, we got Jeff with the mess coming up. Yes. Retaliation. Spending a block. Beef. Rap.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Apocalypse. All that. All that. Apocalypse? There's so much going on. Apocalypse, though? Yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:58 We'll get to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Come on in. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ KB. Jeff Solarius. Shalom in the guy. We are The Breakfast Club She don't spare nobody. Worldwide Jess, worldwide message. On The Breakfast Club. She's a coach of shit.
Starting point is 00:17:34 She was able to get y'all to see something and understand something that nobody could get you to see. It's time to set it off. Okay, so clearly Quavo was not on his Kendrick. In other words quiet because he jumped down the steps and slid down a banner instead of getting that studio for real and the record that he came out with was it's called overhose and bitches and 50 cent couldn't wait to post this right so play it number two. He called him a crackhead Michael Jackson. I mean, he basically repeated what he had said in the other song,
Starting point is 00:18:26 but he's going in depth. His feelings were hurt. That's what he's said in uh in the other song but he he's going in depth his his feelings reserved that's what he's supposed to do i mean chris went at him hard and he mentioned his deceased nephew yeah he should he should respond he should have responded yeah he should have he should have he also um poor sweetie she just sitting in her house minding her business doing her rich girl ish right and and and he said something about her too playing that's not it we played the first one we mentioned it should have been three clips but either way my bad so sweetie she responded to that my bad she responded to it and because he said that he can make a thousand sweeties like trying to trying to, you know, make it seem like it's like he not stunting her. She posted a screenshot from January of an unopened DM from Quavo. And it said, hopefully the model he turns into me replies. But what he said was so funny because it said, damn, we used to mean AF to each other.
Starting point is 00:19:19 She posted it. I would open it just to be like, what are you talking about? I think what he was trying to say is, damn, we either, we used to be so mean to each other or we used to mean so much to each other. Yeah. So he did miss this old thing at one point, right? Now, there's a part of the song where he claims Frank Ocean beat Chris Brown up. And I couldn't believe this.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I was like, Frank Ocean? Chris didn't want to hit him back because it would be a hate crime. If they was to get into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah I can't hit you back no seriously yeah I forgot that uh Chris Brown and and French uh I mean not French uh Frank Ocean had a little fight back in 2013 so I pulled up the articles to refresh my mind right and Chris Brown said uh Ocean told the police that Chris Brown threatened to shoot him saying we can can bust on you too. But this was shortly after. This was shortly after O'Shea came out. No, this was after he came out.
Starting point is 00:20:12 So you can only imagine that O'Shea was like, we'll do it then. You know what I'm saying? Because you can't say that. Don't threaten. What? Let's rumble with it. Please pull out. So that's not good.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Y'all stop. All right. So Chris Brown even So, that's not good. Y'all stop. All right. So, Chris Brown even responded to the track or whatever. But now, play the other boys, y'all. Yeah, number one. Not divide the country, but he was dead serious. Chris Brown responded to it basically saying, man, having fun with it. That is just cool.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I was excited. I thought that you was going to give me something to fight back or whatever, but I'm not even responding. Take Off rap was better. Take Off rap better. And then he said, come on, Quavius. So some people think that Quavo cheated by putting Take Off on a song, but at least it wasn't AI.
Starting point is 00:21:22 You know how many archives archives like like songs that take off probably didn't do the thing you know i'm saying so didn't finish yeah i love the ad-libs the ad-libs on the regals record is always crazy yeah it sounded like it didn't even release it well it did sound like a diss if you're taking it to a diss i know but it sounds you sound like one of them but i like the sound and how much of that stuff be true though like how much of that stuff are they just saying because they're trying to hurt each other's feelings i know it does matter when you say certain things like you can't accuse you know chris brown are trying to beat up tiana taylor bro like that's been the whole thing i heard that
Starting point is 00:21:59 wasn't true right right and then also remember when you say yesterday i don't be hearing nobody bring it back to rihanna he said that he said it in the song he he said you you beat up re or you hit re or something like that it always goes back to re yeah but i was talking about in general when him and uh when he's beefing with other men like when he's about to get into it with frank ocean he's getting into it with drake or he's getting into it with us people don't bring it back to rihanna then with guys yeah like you said okay yeah no I feel you but you said every every battle rap they make things up every single one there's not one where they say well we're gonna keep it truthful yeah it does feel crazy to hear it you know take off
Starting point is 00:22:36 God bless the dead on a record that sounds so violent is your country falling apart feeling tired depressed a little bit revolutionary consider Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warheads.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High.
Starting point is 00:24:24 It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection. It was literally that step by step.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher.
Starting point is 00:25:47 That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're Black, Asian, White, Latinx, Indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, I'm Dr. Maya Shanker, a cognitive scientist who studies human behavior.
Starting point is 00:26:46 On my podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, I marry science and storytelling to better understand how to navigate the big changes in our lives. It was like a slow nightmare, you know, because every day you think, oh, surely tomorrow I'll be better. And I would dream of being better. At night I would dream that my face was quote-unquote normal or back to the way it was. And I'd wake up and there'd be no change. I also speak with scientists about how we can be more resilient in the face of change. You can think of the adolescent brain as like the social R&D engine of our culture. Something that looks risky and idiotic to us
Starting point is 00:27:26 is maybe their way of creatively trying to solve the problem of having social success and fewer of the things that bring you social failure. Listen to A Slight Change of Plans on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Especially when Takeoff was a victim of senseless violence. Because I don't know what Quavo and Chris Brown are
Starting point is 00:27:48 even beefing about. Like all of this seems senseless to me. Where did all of this start? Where did it come from? A girl that's not even with even one of them. I just feel like all of this could be a conversation. Or a coordinated fist fight. If y'all really gotta
Starting point is 00:28:04 get it out of each other. If y'all really got to get it out of each other, if y'all really got to get it in, do it. What is just y'all two, nobody around, whoever wins, wins on some, you know, old school Apollo Creed Rocky. We don't know who won that fight
Starting point is 00:28:16 in the gym at the end of Rocky III. Because Chris will bust on him too. Damn. Wow. Got to be careful saying stuff like that in 2024. Okay. All right. Meek will take that line. Oh, y saying stuff like that in 2024. Okay. All right. Meek will take that line.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Oh, y'all like that. He's stupid, man. That's just what they're messing. Y'all crazy. When we come back, we got front page news. More house. That's right. HBCU out in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Their commencement speaker is President Biden. We'll tell you how they feel about it. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out The Breakfast Club. Morning, it. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Let's get in some front page news. Now, in sports, if you're just waking up, the Knicks beat the 76ers last night, 104-101. The Nuggets beat the Lakers, 101-99. Now, the Knicks were down, I believe, six with 54 seconds left. And the Lakers lost. I mean, it was a buzzer beater. And the Cavs beat the Magic last night 96-86. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Now, Morehouse College, you know, HBCU out in Atlanta, their commencement speaker is President Biden. And a lot of faculty don't necessarily like this. And students. Raymond Ennibokian is a sophomore at Morehouse College, the school he calls the best fit for him. Camaraderie and brotherhood that comes along with just being a Morehouse student. Next month, the historically black college will host its most prestigious visitor, President Joe Biden. According to the White House, Biden will deliver the commencement address on campus on May 19th.
Starting point is 00:29:42 It's not something that I feel like I would honestly even partake in that commencement. I don't see myself being there. An Ibogian sees Biden's visit as a campaign stop and a political tool in an election year. At the end of the day, this is kind of like something that's on his political agenda to kind of maybe get more young black voters or something. However you feel about Biden, having a president be willing to speak at a graduation is a tremendous honor. Eugene Sledge supports the president's visit. The Morehouse sophomore says Biden's address could inspire him and others to go to the polls in November. But there are reported concerns among faculty and a potential for protests to break out surrounding the president's visit.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Oh, I like when I hear both sides in the news report. Because, you know, things aren't all good things aren't all bad i always believe in the rule of 10 that's what i was always taught three people gonna like it three people not gonna like it four people don't even know what the hell's going on right you know so i like i like a news report that shows both sides yeah i mean i think when they have those commencements and the fact that the president is speaking at is speaking at your commencement is something that you remember forever uh he's gonna be all he's gonna be doing is talking about positive things.
Starting point is 00:30:45 He's going to throw a couple of things in about election, but it's all about, you know what you should be doing with your life from there. So I don't, I don't necessarily see that much of a problem. But the pushback is a lot of the pushback is because of Biden's support for Israel and this war against Hamas, what the media is calling a war.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Those college kids are calling it a genocide. That's why they're on these college campuses protesting. Right. And I really want to know how this all is going to play out in November for president Biden. Cause I don't see how a lot of these young folks are going to switch gears come November after going so hard against president Biden. Like how do you go,
Starting point is 00:31:19 you know, from protesting him on, on, on college campuses saying he's, you know, funding a genocide, to now saying I'm going to switch and vote for him in November. But are they protesting on HBCU campuses? Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I haven't heard. That's what I'm asking. I'm sure they are. Yeah, because when you read the article, it says that, well, when you read the article, it says a lot of the pushback at Morehouse is because of increasing protests on college campuses. So I can only assume that they must be doing some protests on morehouse as well all the stories we usually hear whether we heard yale we heard columbia we heard nyu we heard mit
Starting point is 00:31:53 we heard north carolina state but we didn't i didn't hear but maybe they are i'm sure they are now we got to talk about california banning claire now you know what claire is claire is uh a way to i wouldn't say skip the line but it makes it easier for you to go through tsa it's a uh it's something where you can either scan your eyes you can scan your fingers you don't have to pull out your id in most cases now this was done early on and it was a way to get through the lines faster but now it seems like everybody has clear yeah i got them i got them i don't know if i want them to come to the front of the congregation this morning it's a senator named josh newman he's a democrat they don't know if I want them to come to the front of the congregation this morning. It's a senator named Josh Newman. He's a Democrat. They don't got nothing better that they can be presenting. Well, this is why they want to ban Claire.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Well, could California be putting the brakes on the ability to bypass TSA lines at the airport? The proposed bill, the first of its kind in the U.S., would ban screening company Clear from operating in airports in the state. Lawmakers say Clear effectively lets wealthier people skip in front of passengers who have been waiting to be screened by TSA agents. Are you serious? Clear charges members $189 per year to verify passengers' identities at airports and escorts them through security.
Starting point is 00:32:57 The service is in use at roughly 50 airports across the U.S. So far, Clear has declined to comment on the proposed ban. Do you realize how many things in this country are unfair because of the wealth gap? Not being able to afford health care is unfair. Not being able to afford housing is unfair. Not being able to make a livable wage is unfair. Clear is $189 a year. That's probably the cheapest thing you can buy at the airport. Absolutely. The plane tickets cost crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:23 You're right. Okay, what are we talking about? Charging even to check your luggage sometimes. Yeah, no, they charge you for a carry-on. Yeah, oh. On some planes.
Starting point is 00:33:32 No, I don't. I fly Delta. Oh, yeah. Little convenience stores at the airport, you can run up $180 buying some peanuts and a water.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Yes. What are you talking about? Yep, yep, yep. $189 for some convenience? A year? Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. And your excuse is because it's unfair?
Starting point is 00:33:50 It's unfair because of the wealth? Basically because of the wealth gap in this country? Are you serious? There's a lot of bills that y'all could be passing to make things a lot fairer for people who aren't doing well. But not clear. But clear? The people who aren't doing well can't even afford to fly.
Starting point is 00:34:07 That's what I'm talking about. That is facts. All right. Well, that is front page news. You know, they have clear at a lot of the parks and places like that as well,
Starting point is 00:34:15 too, now. At the parks or fields or the baseball field or anywhere where professional teams play, a lot of times they have clear as well.
Starting point is 00:34:23 So you can get through the lines, too, and it helps you through. Oh, you mean when you're going into a game? Yeah, like if you're going to Yankee Stadium or you're going to a lot of times they have clear as well. So you can get through the lines too and it helps you through. Oh, you mean when you're going into a game? Yeah, it's like if you're going to Yankee Stadium or you're going to a lot of these stadiums or arenas, they have clear. I thought you meant like a regular park.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I'm like, what? No, no, no. We got a park at home. We're going to be in the backyard. It ain't no $189 to be in no damn park. All right. Now, when we come back, Bakari Sellers will be joining us.
Starting point is 00:34:41 He has a look called The Moment. Thoughts on the race reckoning that wasn't and how we can all move forward now. And we'll talk to Bakari wheners will be joining us. He has a book called The Moment. Thoughts on the race reckoning that wasn't and how we can all move forward now. And we'll talk to Bakari when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Larris, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Bakari Sellers. Welcome. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:35:03 What's up? What's up? I'm glad to be back, man. How you feeling? Man, I feel really good. More blessed than I deserve, man. I like that hoodie right there. Yeah, official. You know, we got to represent our girls, man. Shout out to Don Staley. Shout out to Camila Cardoza. My Lady Gamecocks, for sure. You've been on the Lady Gamecocks, I mean, for a long time, right? Yeah. My wife went to USC, so I have too, but what made you start supporting the Lady Gamecocks so much? Coach Staley.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I mean, I believe in her. She's a good friend of mine. She's like a sister, an aunt. She keeps it real with you. If my daughters can grow up and be like Coach Staley, I think that they will be amazing women. I mean, what she does for the community. There's no, I don't think there's a woman who's contributed more to basketball,
Starting point is 00:35:41 sport, black womanhood than Coach Staley. And I just appreciate it. Your new book, The Moment. Yes. Okay. Is your thoughts on the race reckoning that wasn't? Why? Well, first of all, the title.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Why the title? So back in 2020, 21, when we were all kind of locked in our homes, and then we saw George Floyd be murdered on camera. I thought about why we saw what we saw. And we were in a pandemic. And so people were locked in their homes. We had the audacity of a 17 year old black woman to take her phone out and videotape what happened. We had nine minutes of a black man calling out for his mom with a knee on the back of his neck. And the world could not turn away. And then everybody came out in the
Starting point is 00:36:22 streets around the world. And it took all of that just for us to have accountability not justice but accountability justice is George Floyd still being here and at that point maybe it's my youthful naivete but at that point I thought that maybe the world was changing maybe we were starting to understand the plight and pain of being black in this country and maybe we were actually having that racial reckoning you know those were the conversations we were having and then she changed changed and we went backwards. I mean, we we have literally since that point when I thought we were making that change. We have been going backwards over 1600 books banned. You see what's happening with the attacks on diversity, equity and inclusion.
Starting point is 00:36:57 You see the the abortion bill in Arizona from the 1800s. And so, you know, I wrote this book about that moment. I was on TV with Felonious Floyd, who spoke before me. And Charlamagne knows this. I'm real emotional. I cry all the time. But he was on the segment before me. And I was on with Dante Stallworth. And I was in my home, my beard and everything, pajama pants on.
Starting point is 00:37:18 That's when we were still doing TV from laptops. And I began to think about my kids and what was I going to tell my black kids listening to Flonius Floyd just just speak well what made you that's that's a great point you brought up about uh how everybody thought things were going to change what made you have a more audacity of hope the George Floyd situation or Barack Obama being elected Barack Obama being elected I thought was a moment in time because we had gone so far I remember saying and I had these conversations I remember being on call with people like Dick Carputlian and Michelle Obama when it wasn't many of us who who supported the president of the United States Anton Gunn in South Carolina uh then Senator Barack Obama and there were fears about Barack Obama one we didn't think white vote would vote for him that's why Iowa was so important when he went
Starting point is 00:38:04 Iowa we were like oh white people will vote for him. That's why Iowa was so important. When he went to Iowa, we were like, oh, white people will vote for this black man. And number two, my father would bring it up all the time. We were afraid that they were going to kill him. I mean, older black folk had a legit concern that Barack Obama was going to be assassinated. And the reason being is because it came from a valid place. They had seen all their heroes become martyrs. And so that was a legitimate concern. And so Barack Obama gave me a lot of hope when he got elected.
Starting point is 00:38:28 The death of George Floyd was something that it was a moment that we missed. It was a surreal moment. And being able to meet the family and see how the world kind of embraced his daughter. And, you know, God works in mysterious ways because he always uses somebody that you would not imagine to bring people together. And nobody would imagine that the person or the vessel he would use would be George Floyd. And he did. I write about that. But I was excited, but I was I was I was more let down, not by George Floyd, of course, or his family, but by the way people reacted to it or the white lash.
Starting point is 00:39:03 There's still a word from Van Jones. Now, you just mentioned you said things went backwards, right? but by the way people reacted to it or the white lash is still a word from from van jones now you just mentioned you said things went backwards right why do you think things went backwards because you had like you said so many people out in the street and it just wasn't black people it was yeah white people asian people jewish people it didn't matter everybody was out there protesting why do you think things went in reverse um there are a lot of white people in this country that are afraid of the browning of America. Um, there, I mean, Tucker, I talk about this in the book, how we've monetized racism and xenophobia.
Starting point is 00:39:29 And Tucker did an entire segment on nightly news in front of millions of people talking about the great replacement theory, which is just a white nationalist racist theory. And, um, you begin to see that fear bubble up. I mean, you have people like Clay Travis, you have Ben Shapiro, you have Candace Owens. I mean, you even have black folk who prop up this type of ignorance and type of white supremacy thought. And I just think that there was a lot of fear in this country. And you saw that you saw that rise to the top. And that fear has made its way into policy, whether or not you're talking about the Supreme Court and the attacks on DEI or the attacks on wokeness. We invented, you know, we used to call people, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:10 woke because you were, you know, sleeping with your eyes open, right? You were just trying to see what the man was doing. And now they've taken that and bastardized it and turned it into something that I don't even know what it means anymore. But I think that fear is palpable amongst a lot of folk and they've monetized that. I mean, you a lot of the echo chamber that is Fox News are people who they're afraid of brown folk. They're afraid of black folk. They're afraid of migrants. I mean, it's just it's fear.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Donald Trump was a was white last two. And do you think that Democrats might have did themselves a disservice by running a woman right after a black man because the black man scared the hell out of them too. But that woman getting close to the presidency scared the hell out of them as well. Let me be extremely clear. There was no person more qualified to run for president of the United States in the history of this country than Hillary Rodham Clinton. Shout out. I know she's listening to The Breakfast Club this morning,
Starting point is 00:41:00 so shout out to the Madam Secretary. But this is a sexist country. There was a lot of misogyny involved in it and i get in trouble with the dark with the dark side particularly there are a lot of a lot of black men who who get mad at me on the inner webs etc when i talk about there was a lot of misogyny involved in that 2016 election there were a lot of people who just didn't feel like a woman could be president should be president could serve and a lot of them were white women who felt that way and there were a of, listen, white women let us down in that election. That's right. We're going to be 100% honest.
Starting point is 00:41:27 It was wild to see that a lot of white women felt some type of way. Hillary Clinton was a death by a thousand cuts. They have been ostracizing and beating Hillary Clinton up since 1988 just for little things.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I don't think we made a mistake. Very rarely do we elect the most qualified person in our party and we did that and so she just she just got beat I mean there was some people have to look back at that election nothing happens in a vacuum I remember they were like she didn't go to Wisconsin well she was scheduled to go to Wisconsin she was going I think University of Wisconsin Green Bay with Barack Obama they would have a big rally what What happened? The Post nightclub shooting. So they canceled the rally. Nothing happens in a vacuum. And so that race, that blew my mind.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I was actually in D.C. I was hosting a party at Park in D.C. And I told them the only way we would host it is if it was a watch party, is if my daughter could come. She was 12. So they let me sneak my 12-year-old daughter in the park. And we were watching the results come in. And it got bad quick.
Starting point is 00:42:30 That's what we were there. We were at the Jacobs. She invited me to the Javits Center. We had our daughter there thinking we about to see her. First woman president. We had our spouses. We were all there. My daughter was there.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Listen, when Florida happened, I was like, this is different. And then the blue wall chipped away. I mean, I remember that. I was depressed. I went to bed early. No, you say something about drinking. What did you say? I drank myself to it.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Because I tell people, back in the day, my saying was, when I had good days, I drank Jameson. When I had bad days, I drank Jameson. But now I drink tequila. But I was out of it. My wife was like, you know how you get drunk and snore? You got that drunk snore mouth open? By 2 o'clock, I was done. I couldn't watch it no more, man.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I was sad. All right, we got more with Bakari Sellers. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:43:19 We're still kicking it with Bakari Sellers. You talked about how you feel when celebrities don't get involved. Let's talk about that a little bit. Yeah, I mean, me and my dad had this conversation. And it starts because of a picture in my book. with bakari sellers you talked about how you feel when celebrities don't get involved yeah and let's talk about that a little bit yeah i mean me and my dad had this conversation and it starts because of a picture in my book well a picture that i talk about in my book my dad got arrested up here in front of the uh south african embassy he was protesting apartheid and he was with jim um jim foreman and he was with john lewis the people who built my dad in them out was sydney poitier and harry belafonte right and there was
Starting point is 00:43:46 such a cross-section during that time between celebrity pop culture entertainment and grassroots activism and my dad believes there should be more of that today and i articulate that there is people don't know the work you do charlamagne people don't know the work they don't know beyonce and jay-z bailed out all the protesters down and and um baton rouge when alton sterling got killed um but his argument is that there should be more. His argument is that, you know, the work and he used Kanye West. Right. He said Kanye West could do that much more for the black community.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And I said, Dad, Kanye West is gone. He's been gone. Right. I mean, like I said, I said on CNN, I got in trouble for it. But I said Kanye West is what happened. What happens when Negroes don't read. Right. But he believes there should be more.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I think there are a lot of people who get involved. We don't know the work they do, but I compare it to the black church as well. There's just not enough. They're not enough people with means who are putting their shoulder to the wheel to help us get out the ditch. That's their prerogative. If you want to have two Teslas and live behind a gated community or behind a
Starting point is 00:44:41 in a gated community, that's fine. But you know, I think, you know, the, this ministry isn't for everybody. I think that you have to be decently selfless. And there are a lot of where we're from.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I'm sure where you're from, too. But there are a lot of black folk who are suffering. There are a lot of black folk in poverty. There are a lot of black folk who don't have access to quality health care. There are a lot of black folk who don't have any opportunity. I mean, we still have in our communities first generation college students we literally have people who are still going to college today who is it's their first generation in their family all you got to do is go to a high school graduation that's why we act the ass the most non-listened to statement in the history of america is please hold your applause
Starting point is 00:45:20 all the names have been called don't nobody listen to that nope but and so we just have so many problems and i think that there is a we we don't have a lot of wealth but i think that we have more wealth than we've ever had and there's an opportunity for us to contribute more what's the number in stocking line what do you say 50 almost 50 of all people don't aren't don't have their basic necessities oh yeah i mean and that and time back into covet this is what i'm talking about we missed a moment so people ask bakari why did black people die at a higher rate from covid than anybody else well in denmark for example i lived in a food desert which means you can't go one or two miles and have access to fresh fruits and vegetables our hospital shut down we didn't expand medicaid etc hospital shut down our drinking
Starting point is 00:45:57 water is not clean all right so you have all of these things that means you have high instances of preventable diseases diabetes heart cardiovascular disease etc you can't get quality health care and then you overlay a pandemic it's no wonder we're dying at higher rates but we never peel back the onion and ask those questions and people ask what is systemic racism that there is systemic racism like how do we fix those systems of injustice i wonder did we miss a moment or did we just get pacified? Like, you know, you had a lot of these corporations do all of these corporate DEI programs you had. And then it was an election year. So people thought, hey, we can just vote. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:32 The change we want in. Like, did we miss a moment or did we just get get get get get pacified? It's a combination of both. You know what? Trump put his name on them checks. Yeah. Which was a brilliant political move. Absolutely. So what was on the check? Sixteen hundred dollars. Twelve hundred, I think. Twelve hundred. Twelve hundred. know what trump put his name on them checks yeah which was a brilliant political move absolutely
Starting point is 00:46:45 um so what was them check sixteen hundred dollars i think twelve hundred i think twelve twelve hundred i think it was another six hundred two or something wasn't it it was two twelve hundred dollar check two twelve i can't remember yeah then biden did one but nobody remembers though and so yeah i i just you know i think that we got pacified and i think we missed a moment i think but people were going through so much too like. I talk about Garland Gilchrist, who's dope. Garland is the lieutenant governor of the great state of Michigan. And I think it was 26 people he lost in his life, in his orbit. I mean, there's a lot of death in black communities.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And so I think we were trying to survive, which is, that is my hope. I have two hopes in life. One is that we no longer have to be in a position where we're trying to survive all the time. There are so many people out here working today who are listening to this show, truck drivers listening to this show, who are trying to survive, make ends meet. Jury number five in the Trump tribe. I'm trying to get us to thrive. I want to get us in a position where we're having an abundance, excess.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I want us to all be able to live like DJ Envy. That's what I want to live like we light skin. I'm very modest. Let's hear about jury number five. How do you get the moment? Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show,
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Starting point is 00:52:53 Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Back though, because I feel like... That's my number two thing. And so the problem for us is that, like, in order for us to have change in this country, the price is so high for black folk. I'm trying to lower that price. Like, in order for us to have the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights so high for black folk. I'm trying to lower that price. Like in order for us to have the voting rights act and civil rights act, we have to have the Edmund Pettus bridge. People had to see that brutality with their eyes in order for us to even talk about criminal justice reform.
Starting point is 00:53:15 We had to watch George Floyd die in order for us to take the Confederate flag down in South Carolina. Nine people had to die. There's so much pain and sacrifice that goes with being black in this country just so that you can have a modicum of change. Like that price is too damn high. And isn't there a saying up here in New York to rent too damn high?
Starting point is 00:53:31 Rent too damn high, yeah. So for black folks, the price of change is too damn high. So I'm trying to lower that price. And that's hard. Hard as hell. Shout out to jury number five. Who was that?
Starting point is 00:53:39 You heard about jury number five on the Trump trial. When they interviewed her, they said that she gets her news from TikTok. She gets her news from TikTok and Google. And she said that she listens to inspirational podcasts in the Breakfast Club. So we were trying to figure out from a legal standpoint, why is that information necessary? So during voir dire, voir dire, you get to ask a number of questions.
Starting point is 00:54:03 And those questions have to be, you put your questions forth, the defense puts their questions forth, and then the judge reviews them, and he puts together a list of questions. And so I usually ask questions like, are you a member of the NRA? Like, what bumper stickers do you have? You know how much you can tell about a person from their bumper stickers? Like, don't tread on me. You know, the blue-black bumper stickers,
Starting point is 00:54:23 like the law enforcement bumper stickers honk if you horny yeah that'd be funny well that's probably somebody you want on your jury right yeah university yeah yeah or who you voted for um you know uh if i'm in a criminal trial i want to know did you contribute to um what is it moms against drunk drunk driving mad right because that means that you just have this bit that you may not give my client that type of grace. And so you're trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:54:47 the psychology of the juror by asking them that. And then there was one juror I saw, I didn't even see the breakfast but there was one juror I saw that only gets their news from Truth Social.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Really? They can't be a juror then? They made it. They made it? Wow. Wow. This trial is crazy. How do you think it's going to play out? He's going to be found guilty. I mean, he's going to be found wow wow this trial is crazy how do you think it's gonna play out oh he's gonna
Starting point is 00:55:06 be found guilty i mean he's gonna be found guilty in this trial he's gonna be found guilty in the two uh criminal trials federal criminal trials he's not gonna go to prison it's gonna be a bit of irony that he's gonna be a convicted felon unable to vote for himself but still could be president of the united states do you think he's gonna win no why not. Do you think he's going to win? No. Why not? I don't think he's going to win. Not what you hope. No, I don't think. I mean, I'm looking at the fundamentals. Charlamagne and I, shout out Jared too,
Starting point is 00:55:32 we have these conversations all the time. But I think the fundamentals are, the biggest threat to Joe Biden is not Donald Trump. It's not RFK. It's not Cornel West. It's the couch. That's right. Like people will stay home. That's right. And we have to get out of this subject verb donald trump like people are tired of that they know he
Starting point is 00:55:51 has five kids by three baby mamas right they know he's uncouth they know that he's been found guilty of rape or whatever he was found guilty of in a civil civil matter they know he has 91 felony counts and all that other stuff and they don't care they don't care but also you know part of it is we have to you know we talk about this often people say is your life better now than it was four years ago and people usually say you know my life was better then what we've realized is that when they were talking when they say that when they answer the question that way they're not talking about necessarily because donald trump made it that way they're talking about their life was better before COVID and still haven't bounced back.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I think that Michigan is going to be very important. But I do believe that you're starting to see black and brown voters come back to Joe Biden and wake up. People are paying attention. And I think that Donald Trump has a very low ceiling and a high floor. So he's going to be in the low 40s, period. I mean, that's just where he's going to live. He's going to live at 40 percent, 42 percent period. I mean, that's just where he's going to live. He's going to live at 40%, 42%. And I think that Joe Biden can
Starting point is 00:56:48 eclipse that. Alright, we got more with Bakari Sellers. When we come back, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking in with Bakari Sellers. His book, The Moment, is out right now. It starts
Starting point is 00:57:03 on the race reckoning that wasn't and how we can all move forward now. Charlemagne, why is this so hard for this country to reckon with race? Just on a just on just in general, because we've never dealt with the original sin of this country. I mean, we've never dealt with or one of the two original sins. Shout out to my Native American friends and followers. But we've never dealt with we never we never dealt with the issue of slavery. Like, this country, I mean, we built this country for free. Like, we were raped, pillaged.
Starting point is 00:57:30 They took everything from us. And nobody, they act like that was, like, we never dealt with that. And then we had, you know, we had 100 years of oppression in Jim Crow. Like, we literally have not been a republic until the voting rights act in the mid-1960s i mean think about that people like like we haven't had full full right in this country until 1960s and that we're still fighting for that and so we've never really dealt with that issue and now now be you know one of the quotes i write in this book is that you know for a lot of a lot of people including a lot of white folk that we love that we talk to that are our friends equality feels like oppression to them and that's
Starting point is 00:58:10 the definition of white supremacy um and so we've just never we've never dealt with it i just don't want more people to have to die which oh and going back to college campuses look we do have to we we have to do a couple of things we have to to root out anti-Semitism at its root. We also do not need Eric Adams in NYPD or Kathy Hochul and the National Guard on college campuses. That's no mix. OK, my dad was shot by law enforcement when they were brought on campus in 1968. We had Kent State. We had Jackson State. just let's figure out a way to have some constructive conversations with students these outside groups arrest them whoever's from the outside infiltrating these pro-homas groups you know arrest them put them under the jail but but college students let's
Starting point is 00:58:56 figure out a way to have some i mean let's figure out a way to have some dialogue you got the chapter white terror part two when you talk about legal genocide and you talk about how you and Ben Crump receive so many threats that y'all face for the work that you do. So it makes me wonder, is it is the work worth it? And shout out to Harry Daniels, too, who worked with us on that case. And Andrew Brown is the work worth it. I have a job that I wish didn't exist. You know, I'm working with a family right now in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Ricky Cobb. Yeah, he was he was gunned down by Minnesota State Police.
Starting point is 00:59:30 And, you know, just seeing the pain these families go through. I mean, when you do this work, you have to be not only their lawyer, but you have to be their psychologist, psychiatrist, their friend. I mean, we have like, you know, these phone conversations or meetings where we just kind of you have to let them grieve. You have to let them get it out because they want justice. I mean, they're part of a fraternity sorority. You never want that knock, but you never want your loved one to be a hashtag. And you but you never know when it's going to happen in the threats we get. I mean, Ben, I pray for Ben all the time.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Ben is one of the most complicated, simple people you'll ever meet in your life like every Sunday he's in church with his family when we travel he goes shopping at Walmart gets his shirt dress pants like when we go out to restaurants he get a you know fried shrimp or just a cheeseburger well done
Starting point is 01:00:18 we could be at Papa though I always judge people by how they eat first of all some of y'all need to be judged. He didn't say well done, though. He just said cheeseburger. Well done. I mean, I got to judge. Some of y'all need it.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Well done. That one's Bobby. He might get his burger well done. Yes, it does. I mean, some of y'all got some eating habits that should be judged, right? I'm just saying. But he's a good dude, man, and he doesn't get nearly the credit for the work that he does. And so shout out Ben and people like Harry Daniels, people who do this work and who do it well.
Starting point is 01:00:48 You think the news is doing a poor job of amplifying and highlighting the things that the Biden administration gets right? Because it seems like all they do all day is talk about how bad Trump is. To your point, nobody cares about that. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to hear about Trump farting in court i don't want to hear about him falling asleep right i mean like treat him like treat him like every other criminal defendant right but yeah you don't hear about what joe biden did for black farmers you don't hear about the seven billion dollars for hbc you don't hear about the fact that the number of black businesses the share of black businesses between 2022 and 2019 has doubled right you don't hear
Starting point is 01:01:25 about what he and kamala harris have done for african-american female mortality you don't hear about the the holdings or the writings opinions of kentonji brown jackson who he put on the supreme court you just don't you don't really hear enough about those things and so is that the media's fault yes is that the white house's fault yes right and so there is a certain level of distrust you know kamala joe biden are not the best messengers people don't even really listen to barack obama like that anymore yeah so i mean we got to find the people who are i would argue that more people listen to y'all than listen to them all right and so you know it's important that you have the right messengers out there meeting people where they are all right well you know, they're gearing up to blame this election.
Starting point is 01:02:06 If Biden loses, you know, they're gearing up to blame it on black men. I know. I write about that. And, you know, for a long period of time, you can't just show up and begin to talk, talk to black men, you know, at Labor Day. I think we have to do a better job of listening to black men, all of them about the pain that they're feeling. It's hard. It's hard being a black man in this country because when you walk outside your doors, you're not loved. You have to live in this perpetual state of angst and anxiety because you don't know what's coming your way. You have to take care of your household. For me, I have a wife. I have three kids that I spend a great deal of my time
Starting point is 01:02:42 in my own head, making sure I can provide for them. You're making sure ends meet the stresses that you deal with, the way people look at you and the way you have to carry yourself. All right. We live in a very toxic type of environment. And so I talk about all of those things and we have to listen to the pain that black men are going through until we begin to open our ears and listen to that, you'll continue to see slippage. And they you know, a lot of black men will gravitate to the toxicity or the toxic masculinity that is Donald Trump. They black men who were voting for Donald Trump. I don't think it's great numbers, but they're voting for him because he looks tough. He talks hard. Right. I mean, that's what it is. It's a it's a personality. It's an entertainment factor. And we have to understand that. Right. We have to understand where that comes from and then you'll be able to attack it.
Starting point is 01:03:27 What is what's your hope for this book? What's the biggest takeaway you want people to get from the moment? I want people to realize where we are and where we can go. And I want people to realize that particularly as black people, we have the ability to change our destination. I want at the end of it it I talk about young people in this country and I go to Applebee's a lot all right and the reason I go to Applebee's across from the VA on Garner's Ferry is because they pour liquor like it ain't their own you know they actually pour they actually pull like they supposed to these fancy places they anyway but I was talking to the bartender and she told me
Starting point is 01:04:04 she was born in 2000 and there's more and I began to Anyway, but I was talking to the bartender and she told me she was born in 2000 and I was like, and there's more? And I began to think about that. I was like, imagine a kid born in 2000. They've seen 9-11. They've seen a housing crisis,
Starting point is 01:04:12 a financial crisis, election of the first black president, Tea Party, re-election of the first black president, Parkland, Fort Hood,
Starting point is 01:04:20 Charleston Massacre. They've seen the synagogue shooting. They've had the largest mass shooting in the history of the country in Las Vegas, Nevada. They've seen the election of Donald Trump. An insurrection? Oh, insurrection. They've seen COVID.
Starting point is 01:04:36 They've seen the precipice of World War III. They've seen Russia invade Ukraine. And they've done all of this under the auspices of social media where it's like you know just the vitriol that is what it is and they're still here i mean these young people are so dope your kids are amazing i mean that's why they need more grace all of us have kids that are amazing because they're still here i mean y'all are worried that you i mean everywhere he's gonna show up in the freaknik uh uh documentary definitely not that not. That was not my error. I was way behind that error. That's a real fit.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Everybody should be concerned about that. I don't have a problem with people being afraid about that. So I'm just saying, these young people, they need grace. And I write that, you know, they give me hope. And there's a lot of hope to be had. All right. Wow. The book.
Starting point is 01:05:21 New book, The Moment. The Moment is out right now. Make sure you go pick it up. And I want y'all to know, he bought it right back to food with Applebee's. Food and liquor, you get to Bakari's heart. Food and liquor. When Bakari first started talking about inflation, he was like, the white ain't too damn high. The white ain't ass too high.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Man, my daddy went to Piggly Wiggly, man. That's how I knew it was real. He was like, we were just talking. He was like, man, you seen the price of white? It's Bakari Sellers. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. I don't even want Kendrick to reply no more.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Wow. I'll talk about it in Just With The Mess. All right. Well, let's get to Just With The Mess. The news is real, brother. The lines just arrive and more. Just don't do no lying. Just talk about it.
Starting point is 01:06:01 She don't spare nobody. Worldwide just, worldwide message. On The Breakfast Club. She's a culture shift. She was able to get y'all to see something and understand something that nobody could get you to see. It's time to set it off. Okay, so one of two Pac brothers, well, his stepbrbrother Mopreme Shakur he told TMZ Hip Hop that he had an issue with Drake using
Starting point is 01:06:27 AI for Tupac's voice because he weaponized it I mean Mopreme is right but that's the whole point. He was weaponizing it on purpose because it's a diss record. Yeah, Moprim was saying that he thinks it should be one-on-one and he shouldn't need no outside help. He shouldn't use any outside help,
Starting point is 01:06:55 especially from people that didn't authorize it. I just thought it was creative. I thought it was a creative way of doing it. He didn't use outside help. He wrote the verse. He used it in Tupac's voice. He wrote from the perspective of Tupac. Itac yeah it's not actually tupac yeah yeah but i mean i get what i get what his brother's saying right he weaponized it on purpose that was the point
Starting point is 01:07:14 oh okay so yeah that was that um is there anything you wanted to say about kendrick not right now all right good okay so kanye and justin leboy recap so remember when i said well everybody's saying this when kanye responded he threw himself in the drink thing it's like nobody asked for that that was like dumb to me i'm justin leboy sat down and did an exclusive interview with kanye the name of the show is download if you only saw clips and you couldn't get and you're only only looking for the full access to the full interview, you can only get it if you buy something from Yeezy.com. I'm not going to lie, that's smart.
Starting point is 01:07:53 That is real smart. I thought that was smart. In order to monetize an interview, the only way you can watch it is to buy something off the website. I thought that was smart. Yeah. Is things on the website still $20 though? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:08:03 This stuff is still on there for $20, but if you're not even try and spend that you can get your news here I'm just all that because he shared his thoughts
Starting point is 01:08:12 I mean I'm talking about the same stuff that y'all already saw but it's he was talking about the ongoing beefs and he spoke about Drake
Starting point is 01:08:20 well he called me I went to the studio laid that and then we called the hooligans, call them out in London to get on and join. You know, everybody is very, very excited about the elimination of Drake.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Yo, you not excited. We was energized. Why do they want to eliminate? I don't understand. I did not understand that. I mean, like I said, I don't be understanding the male rapper beef a lot. i didn't know that kanye had such a huge problem with dredd i didn't know that it seems like it was like huge huge huge like that like he was like that press he's hate like it's it's hate yeah like jealous like you sound jealous at uh at some point um he also
Starting point is 01:09:00 spoke on um justin leboy asked him about Cole's apology. J. Cole apologized to Kendrick. F*** all that s***. F*** all that s***, man, because it's like, that s*** J. Cole went on tour with Drake. He know what it is. It's like, f***, you can't run now. It's you also, all this like.
Starting point is 01:09:19 It's up for Cole too? If you say Cole, you can't say up and Cole in the same sentence. So shady. So shady. So shady. And then Justin asked him who would he choose if he could have a threesome with anybody, any woman in the world. And this is his wife. Who's one other woman y'all going to have a threesome with? You can pick anyone in the world.
Starting point is 01:09:44 There's just one person. Michelle Obama. Got aama got a president's wife he's so happy kanye west is the leader of the legion of lame okay what a hating ass human like what type of man sits around and says we are all we were all energized by the elimination of another man like this man is so miserable and has never dealt with whatever hurt and pain he's feeling that he just wants to project it onto other people. And that's why I don't even want Kendrick to respond no more, okay? Because unlike that, you know, he clowned Drake and Cole for clicking up.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Don't you be a part of the Legion of Lame, Kendrick, okay? Future, you neither. Run from Kanye. Metro, what are you doing? All of y'all should be running from Kanye West. Have you not read the 48 laws of power avoid the unhappy and the unlucky you can die from somebody else's misery kanye then made the whole thing corny it was entertaining until he bought his jealous envious ass into the picture so lame and by the way he's been hating on drake when i interviewed him back in the day when we was walking through the hills. Wyoming? No, that wasn't
Starting point is 01:10:46 Wyoming. It was Calabasas. He was hating on Drake and Virgil then. Talking about they took the culture from him. And this is when he was up. This is when Yeezy was booming. And he was still hating because he's an unhappy, unlucky, hating-ass human. We shouldn't even give him no energy. What you think the problem is?
Starting point is 01:11:01 He actually edited that part of the interview out when he was hating on Drake drake and virgil and they stole the culture from me in your interview you mean well it was his interview because he taped it he taped it yeah so question so why do you think the hate is is so prevalent because like you said he did it when he was on top and now he's doing it when he's trying to come what because you got titties man i'm saying there's a certain level of insecurity that always come with men having titties so you say because he has titties is the reason why he hates so much i don't listen i don't know why the man hates so much i just i hate unhappy unlucky people he's miserable he was
Starting point is 01:11:34 miserable when he was up he's miserable now he's not as up as he was he's just a miserable person how do you sit around and say we're gonna eliminate another another man. Why? Over rap? No, I can understand why people might want to eliminate somebody, but not because Drake is hotter than you. Not because Drake gets more chicks than you. Not because Drake has more nobles than you. I mean, there's a lot of reasons. That's the reason.
Starting point is 01:11:58 This is all jealousy and envy. That's all it is. Stop using my name when you're talking about Kanye. Well, you should have named your stupid ass as Envy, dumbass. Won't you? They named me that. Hater, DJ hater, DJ jealousy. Okay? Why? my name when you talk about well you should have named your stupid ass dumb ass dj hater dj jealousy okay why yo i was shrimp i was shrimp at first you should have kept shrimp yeah i was only five foot four i had glasses braces i was dj shrimp so it was either dj's shrimp envy which one would you choose jesus yeah envy say thank you. All day. Big envy. You can't be big shrimp like what? Big shrimp. Big shrimp.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Not the little one. But that is just the best. All right. Charlemagne, we're giving you a donkertoon. Well, after the hour, can we have Senator Josh Newman come to the front of the congregation? We really need to have a talk about this whole clear thing. Okay. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:38 All right. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.
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Starting point is 01:15:21 Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys,
Starting point is 01:15:30 like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward.
Starting point is 01:15:43 And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're Black, Asian, White, Latinx, Indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and
Starting point is 01:16:17 conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist who studies human behavior. On my podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, I marry science and storytelling to better understand how to navigate the big changes in our lives. It was like a slow nightmare, you know, because every day you think, oh, surely tomorrow I'll be better. And I would dream of being better.
Starting point is 01:17:04 At night, I would dream that my face was quote-unquote normal or back to the way it was, and I'd wake up and there'd be no change. I also speak with scientists about how we can be more resilient in the face of change. You can think of the adolescent brain as like this social R&D engine of our culture, that something that looks like risky and idiotic to us is maybe their way of creatively trying to solve the problem of having social success and fewer of the things that bring you social failure. Listen to A Slight Change of Plans on the
Starting point is 01:17:36 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. All right. And then when we come back, we're going to take your calls 800-585-1051. It's a topic that came out of a little REL interview, and we'll get into it when we come back, we're going to take your calls, 800-585-1051. It's a topic that came out of a little Rell interview, and we'll get into it when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out The Breakfast Club. Some donkey today has just sold himself. I've been watching you, Charlamagne.
Starting point is 01:17:58 What's ready for you? I never heard of a donkey the other day. What is it? Say it again, Charlamagne. I'm a donkey. Yes, you are a donkey. I'll show you how to act a donkey. Everything that Charlamagne is saying is true. Yes, donkey of the day for Tuesday, April 23rd goes to Senator Josh Newman.
Starting point is 01:18:20 He is a Democrat from California who clearly has nothing better to do because he has presented a bill that will ban clear in California. You know what clear is, don't you? Many of us have it. But here's the technical definition for you. It's a private security clearance company founded in 2010, and it verifies passengers identities at airports and escorts them through security. It allows you to bypass all the TSA checkpoints. Basically, it helps you get through the airport faster. I got clear TSA pre-check. Only thing I don't got is global entry because of old felonies. And that's why I can't wait to get a pardon from the state of South Carolina. But Senator Josh Newman, a Democrat, has presented a bill that bans clear. Can we go to the report, please, Ray? Well, could California be putting the brakes on the ability to
Starting point is 01:19:04 bypass TSA lines at the airport? The proposed bill, the first of its kind in the U.S., would ban screening company Clear from operating in airports in the state. Lawmakers say Clear effectively lets wealthier people skip in front of passengers who have been waiting to be screened by TSA agents. Clear charges members $189 per year to verify passengers' identities at airports and escorts them through security. The service is in use at roughly 50 airports across the U.S. So far, Clear has declined to comment on the proposed ban.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Now, y'all know I'm frugal Vandross, okay? Ain't nothing wealthy about me, okay? I don't like to spend no damn money, but my cheap ass got Clear. Because the first time i got presented with the option to buy clear they told me it was 189 dollars per year that sounded like a deal to me okay you got clear yes you got clear yes that's 189 a year it might even have been a little bit less when we got it right it was 99 yeah very affordable especially for as much as we fly. Now, here's the thing. They are saying this bill is about dignity and it's about the travel experience of people who don't have money to pay for upsell services.
Starting point is 01:20:14 If you have money by all means, but that business shouldn't be at the expense of the average traveler. Let me translate. They feel clear, less wealthy people skip in front of passengers who have been waiting to be screened by TSA. And this is unfair. Senator Josh Newman, do you realize how many things in this country are unfair? Because of the wealth gap, not being able to afford health care is unfair. Not being able to afford housing is unfair. Not being able to make a livable wage is unfair. But y'all passing bills for clear are trying to pass bills for clear.
Starting point is 01:20:42 You want to help people financially? Lower the price of plane tickets okay the average price to fly around trip in America is three hundred and sixty seven dollars and seventy nine cents that's just the average price okay to fly pass a bill to lower that and I'm a salute clear because I learned something this morning and what I learned is that clear is pumping a lot of money into the economy of California media representative for clear said they partnered with nine airports across california they create hundreds of jobs and they share more than 13 million in annual revenue and serve damn near 1 million people
Starting point is 01:21:14 in california you got me at hundreds of jobs by the way i love clear employees drop on the clues bombs for all the clear employees they are always very pleasant people okay they remind me of what chick-fil-a employees used to be no disrespect chick-fil-a workers you all used to be a lot warmer i will say when you down south you still get that feeling but chick-fil-a's everywhere else didn't get the memo but i don't like these performative stunts and gestures that politicians do to act like they care about the poor in this country put some real resources into anti-poverty policies and programs in this country. Put more resources into food assistance, housing assistance, family tax credits.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Y'all not really trying to reduce nobody's financial hardships. Raise minimum wage then, okay? And eliminate the sub-minimum wage. Protect people's SNAP benefits. Expand the child tax credits. That's how you help ease the financial burdens for struggling families.
Starting point is 01:22:03 I could be wrong, but people that are struggling financially aren't thinking to themselves, you know what would make my life easier? If we got rid of Clear. Okay, you know why they're not thinking that? Because they probably can't even afford to fly. Senator Josh Newman said the bill doesn't seek to punish Clear or put it out of business. It wants to create a better traffic flow so customers aren't intersecting with the general public
Starting point is 01:22:23 and causing a moment of friction that is so frustrating to the average traveler. He said all it does is up the tension in the line. Senator Josh Newman, shut the F up, Thelma. OK, I need you to put that energy into bills and the policy solutions that can create a more equitable economy and leave those of us who choose to pay an extra $189 a year to save a little bit of time with clear the hell alone. Please give Senator Josh Newman the sweet sounds of the Hamiltones. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day.
Starting point is 01:22:55 You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw. I'll be proudly using my Clear this weekend when we go to Atlanta. the day. Yee-haw. I'll be proudly using my clear this weekend when we go to Atlanta. Proudly. And if you have a certain American Express card, they pay for a clear for the year for free.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Excuse me? You know, I love me a little Amex. I just got with them. That's how I got into the Barclays. Like, skip the very bad. Yeah. What's it called? Amex. Well, that's the shorter version, but a Market Express. What you thought I said? I don't know. You don't have a Market Express?
Starting point is 01:23:32 What's in your wallet? I don't. I still got a Rush card. He's lying. You still got a Rush card? Don't be judging people. Y'all still see what I'm saying? I just asked the question again because I wanted you to hear yourself.
Starting point is 01:23:41 You know he ain't got no Rush card. You have a Rush? Actually, I got my JetBlue credit card. That's what'll be using okay my jet blue card that's a number on it let me see the number right everybody can't be as fortunate as you individuals okay um all right well thank you for that it's the ghetto child trying to make it man thank you ghetto day at a time thank you for that. It's the ghetto child trying to make it, man. One ghetto day at a time. Thank you for that, Donkey, today. Now, let's open up the phone lines.
Starting point is 01:24:08 800-585-1051. Yesterday, Lil Rel was on the show, comedian Lil Rel, and he was talking about proposing to his wife, and he said this when it came to marriage and the wedding. We really been planning a marriage. Like, the wedding, that's easy. We can do that. I want to make sure everything's in order by the time we get into that new place and all that that's a great
Starting point is 01:24:29 perspective i'm not planning for the wedding i'm planning for the marriage yeah we talking about you combining finances we have seven kids between us so we need to make sure it's the right home we have you know everything has to be in order and even just us and communicating yeah i love talking to her every day and we talk about everything you know sometimes we don't agree on a lot of shit but we talk it out and i love that so that is the question 800-585-1051 like that perspective you plan for the wedding or do you plan for the marriage and for those of y'all who have been planning for the marriage i'd love to hear from y'all and hear what uh what that entails right i think you also have to be a little, well, I wouldn't,
Starting point is 01:25:06 you have to be a little grown to plan for the marriage. A lot of people that got young, me and my wife got married early on. I don't think we thought about a lot of the things that people think about now. We weren't thinking about finances. We didn't have no money. We weren't thinking about a lot of the things at the time because we just didn't have, we didn't have the knowledge for it. But I think now there's so much knowledge about it. Now, I a lot of men when a lot of men say things like i want to make
Starting point is 01:25:28 sure i'm right before you know we get married meaning like like whether that's financial whether that's you know going to therapy to do some work on yourself to me that's thinking about the marriage yeah you know i don't know if they look at it like that but to me that's thinking about because a lot of people plan for the marriage and we'll take it cause but a lot of people spend all that money on the wedding and you know to make that dream wedding. But then they don't have anything for the marriage to make sure that they have a solid foundation. And we'll discuss when we come back. Let's discuss.
Starting point is 01:25:52 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 01:26:15 We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, salute to little Rel, comedian. He stopped through yesterday. And this is what he said about marriage and the wedding. We've really been planning a marriage. the wedding that's easy we could do that i want to make sure everything's in order by the time we get into that new place and all that that's a great perspective i'm not planning for the wedding i'm planning for the marriage yeah we talking about you combining finances we have seven kids between us so we need to make sure
Starting point is 01:26:43 it's the right home we have you know everything has to be in order and even just us and communicating yeah i love talking to her every day and we talk about everything you know sometimes we don't agree on a lot of shit but we talk it out and i love that so we asking 800-585-1051 what are you playing for the marriage or the wedding let's start with you jess well Well, ever since Lil' Ro said that, I went home and I told Chris, I said, look, plan for the marriage. What does that mean, though? It is exactly what Charlamagne said. And then what you said, like, when you were younger, you weren't thinking about it. I mean, as a woman, you just think about the fairytale wedding.
Starting point is 01:27:19 I know I can't speak for all women, but what I hear a lot and even myself, like I've always wanted that fairytale wedding, walking down the aisle in front of my friends and family, beautiful dress, the kiss that I do. But then after, what is it now? So that's just one ceremony. You know what I'm saying? Like this is us. This is us becoming one. Now we're joining accounts. We're joining finances.
Starting point is 01:27:40 We're joining. Like I can't think for myself. Only think about the future for myself. I have to think about another partner. Right. We live in the same house. We. Two children.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So this is literally what you should plan for. And that's why I said the wedding is easy. You know, if you got money. Wedding is easy. What is it? All of it entail after that.
Starting point is 01:28:03 But let me ask you a question too you can say that but what about the ring because most women when they get the ring that ring is expensive and that ring could be something that you use to plan for your marriage right because those rings be expensive yeah they're not no cheap rings diamonds ain't cheap so you know a lot of people spend a lot of money on the on the diamond and then they have to wait to save some more money then they got a plan for the wedding and they got to wait to save some more money but by that point is it planning for the marriage yeah and not just financially you know you got to be be right ready as well yeah and then also it because weddings do cost so much if the if you already if you play
Starting point is 01:28:38 you do all right you plan for the marriage is the person worth all the money like you got to think about that because i hear some people they'll be like yo i spent all that money on the wedding and and we ain't even you know like i shouldn't even have did all that that's why you should plan for the marriage first and get to know this woman or get to know this man because it doesn't your love shouldn't have a price on it like if you do it you did it from the heart man my baby worth all this like you know whatever so you gotta think about it from that perspective too when you plan for marriage that the wedding is easy and that is easy to to get to pay for that yeah i agree with you too i think that you should plan for the marriage marriage figure out how you're gonna make this
Starting point is 01:29:17 thing last longevity whether it's like you said finances or we're going to therapy together to make sure that we know how to keep this marriage in a place where we both respect each other, we both keep it sexy, we both know the business of marriage and make sure that it's a successful marriage. But I think, like you said, when you're younger, you plan for that wedding. Like, I wanted to give my wife that fairytale wedding
Starting point is 01:29:38 that she wanted, and I'm sure she wanted that fairytale wedding. I don't think we plan for the marriage at all when you're younger. I think you're really just thinking about, i'm gonna get married what does that mean correct you know what i'm saying it sounds good the wedding and all of that but then what does it actually mean to be married personally and business-wise are you right i remember when i when i got married after the wedding i went on a honeymoon and then i live i live with gia's mother like right right we got married spent all this money on the ring all this money miami huh would After the wedding, I went on a honeymoon, and then I lived with Gia's mother. Right, right. We got married, spent all this money on a ring. Where'd y'all go for a honeymoon?
Starting point is 01:30:07 Miami? Huh? Where'd y'all go for a honeymoon? Why you say Miami? Because y'all was younger. I'm just asking. We went on a cruise, sir. We went on a cruise.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Oh, okay, okay. A cruise, sir. That left from Miami? I'm telling you from Miami. We flew from New York to Miami. We flew from the West Side Highway to Miami. Let's go through the phone lines. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 01:30:26 Yeah. Hey, what's your name, brother? Hi, Carlos. Hey, Carlos. We're talking about planning for the wedding or planning for the marriage?
Starting point is 01:30:33 Planning for the marriage, absolutely. And why is that? One point in the wedding, man. You know, I've been with my spouse for 11 years.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Since first out of high school. That's my plan, you know. Aside from two humans trying to grow together, you know, that's what the marriage is about. Two souls. That takes time. That takes planning.
Starting point is 01:30:49 That's more important than the wedding. What did you do? What were some things you did to plan for the marriage? We bought a house. I've been helping her. She's an esthetician. She's a makeup artist and start her business. Focus on that.
Starting point is 01:31:10 So, you know, we've been pushing the business. I, myself, am graduating. I told her to focus on civil engineering. So, you know, and growing together. That's finally going to get my bachelor's. We focus on going forward. Okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:31:24 I'm not seeing people talk so fast. Hello, who's this? Hey, MB. Hey, Uncle Sharla. Hey, Jess. Hey, girl. This is Denise from Virginia Beach. Hey, 757.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Good morning. Good morning. It says you're getting married next week. I am getting married next week. Congratulations. But we planned our marriage and not our wedding. We're having a very small, intimate little ceremony, but we have talked way more about our marriage than we did our wedding. What does planning for a marriage look like?
Starting point is 01:31:53 Well, we talked about how we're filing taxes and how we're combining finances. And between the both of us, we have four kids. So it's how we're parenting each other's kids. And they all live with us. So that's how we are planning for our future. Instead of, you know, the day is, you know, a day to remember forever. However, I'm spending the rest of my life with this person. So I'd rather plan the rest of my life than the one day.
Starting point is 01:32:20 I love it. I love that. Thank you, Mama. Hello, who's this? I'm going to go with Anonymous. Uh-oh, that means the wedding didn't work out. Yeah. Yeah, no, definitely not.
Starting point is 01:32:32 I agree with Lil Rel. Once you're out of the hypothetical of what we're going to do when we get married, when we get married, my ex, she just wanted to live in the same field, the pageantry, and i wanted to go back to premarital counseling i wanted to plan the future i set up the joint bank account and she just wasn't moving accordingly so i canceled the wedding okay you saw it before it even got
Starting point is 01:32:58 there because how it starts is how it ends absolutely yeah you know it's like she didn't want to put she didn't want to put Equal amount of work Into the future We were on the hypothetical Like Yeah You know the whole time
Starting point is 01:33:10 You're dating There's always the conversations Oh Let's do this When we get married Oh I'ma be like this I'ma be like that Well
Starting point is 01:33:17 The ring is on It's time to Start planning that You know what I mean You're right Okay Well thank you brother 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 01:33:27 If you're just joining us, we're talking about comedian Lil Rel. He stopped through yesterday, and he was talking about he just got engaged, and he said he was planning the marriage, not the wedding, and we wanted to know what your thoughts are. Let's discuss. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Tell her.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Made it. If y'all talking about it, you know we talking about it. It's Topic Time. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's the EJNV, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about comedian Lil Rel.
Starting point is 01:34:03 He popped up. He was here yesterday, and he was talking about the fact you're just joining us, we're talking about comedian Lil Rel. He popped up in, he was here yesterday and he was talking about the fact that he just got proposed and we were talking about the wedding and the marriage. And he said, you plan for the marriage,
Starting point is 01:34:12 not the wedding. Yes. You gotta also think, like, not even just finances and stuff, too, like, plan responsibility, too.
Starting point is 01:34:20 And then also, like, for arguments, for things to not be. Because the last caller just was talking about like how she was living his wife was living well his fiancee was living in this in this bubble this false reality or whatever like you have to plan for arguments as well this is what we do when we argue when we're not agreeing and what like you have to even though you can't
Starting point is 01:34:39 you don't know what you're gonna argue about right but it still has to be a plan like you know what i'm saying because beef get crazy it does if you think you're gonna live argue about, but it still has to be a plan. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because beef get crazy. It does. If you think you're going to live with a person, wake up with them, go to sleep with them, raise kids with them
Starting point is 01:34:51 every minute of the day and y'all not going to argue? Yeah. Y'all not going to talk crazy to each other sometimes? Are you serious? Y'all don't watch too much Cosby Show then.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Right. If y'all think that's what life is. Right. I got a plan for that. But let's go to the phone lines. A lot of people on the lines. Hello, who's this? Brittany. Hey, Brittany. Good morning. We're talking about planning the wedding or planning the marriage yes i'm definitely planning the marriage um i am engaged and i even act as if i'm like
Starting point is 01:35:16 having the biggest wedding of my life my ring it came from pandora like it's it's very much easy to just plan for a wedding versus actually knowing the plans afterwards, like children and finances and housing, all that thing, all those things come first to us. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I hate the fact that, you know, weddings have been such a thing that's been, it's almost like they sell you on on a wedding so you spend the money on the wedding the flowers and all this stuff and you spend you know you could spend up to 10 20 30 40 50 000 on a wedding in a ring together but a lot of that could be somebody's first foundation for a home yeah the first started yeah that's exactly what because i'm tired of paying rent rent is
Starting point is 01:36:00 expensive it doesn't make sense for us to keep renting $1,500 a month. And, like, no, I'd rather just save up, stack up my money, have a nice house. And when it's time for us to have kids, I can actually take off and not worry about trying to send them to daycare. Because all that stuff is put up and saved for. That's real. Yeah. Marriage all the way. You know, I've been hearing that a lot too, man. I was listening to something yesterday.
Starting point is 01:36:27 I think I was actually listening to Elliot Connie's podcast, Family Therapy. And the woman on there was saying how, you know, when they planned for their marriage, that was her whole thing. They wanted to have enough money to where she could stay at home and be with the kids. Like, you know, that is something that a lot of people think about nowadays but simply can't afford to do yeah there's plenty of people that would want to be stay-at-home parents and stay at home with their kids but they can't afford to do it yeah yeah i mean you're absolutely right but that's like you said part of the planning of what you both want as a couple when you get married you know hello who's this hi this is fatima from st bill north carolina hey fatima talk to us about planning a wedding versus planning the marriage Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Fatima from St. Bill, North Carolina. Hey, Fatima.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Talk to us about planning a wedding versus planning the marriage. So one of the things that we always talk about is the fact that you're going to be with this person for the rest of your life. So the marriage is great. The wedding is nice. But love is not everything. And I say that by saying, do you like this person, right? Can you be with this person for the rest of your life? Can you combine finances like little girl was talking about?
Starting point is 01:37:35 And also think about you're also marrying this person's family, right? So a combination of both, you have to plan for the future from finances, sickness and health, like everything that you can think about, because marriage is not easy. It's work. People think it's fun and games until some real ish really happens. Can you be there for that person and have that faith? Hey, guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout?
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Starting point is 01:43:01 thank you mama yeah what's the moral to the story guys? If there's more plan for your marriage, that's what we trying to tell you this morning. Plan for your marriage. The wedding ceremony is great. That's cute, but that's really just the moment in time. The marriage should be forever. That's right.
Starting point is 01:43:16 I can't wait to your little big head. Get married. Yeah, I can't wait. But you know what? I can. You know, cause yeah, planning for a marriage now yeah because you also gotta make sure people mental state is right too like yo some of the phone calls that i get up
Starting point is 01:43:33 here for just fix my mess remember we had that one caller where she was like she didn't know she married her husband and when he left her when she left him for cheating he killed himself because he felt like i remember that he you know he couldn't have you know he couldn't deal with losing her but that went back to something he was dealing with way before even meeting her like you know what i'm saying so you just gotta uh therapy mental evaluations all that you gotta know who you are becoming one with just that's that's real because we're having all these conversations about financial, but you really got to go do the work on yourself,
Starting point is 01:44:07 man. Both partners. Yeah. To be in holy matrimony with a person. And do it together as well. Lord have mercy. Talk about you're going
Starting point is 01:44:13 to be with this person forever? That's right. Until they get triggered by your fart. And then, oh my God. You know what I'm saying? Y'all in the bed together and you fart on the person
Starting point is 01:44:20 by accident. Not realizing that happened to him in jail and some crazy stuff happened after that because when a man farts around another man that's flirting you don't even understand why that happened now he's bugging out and you don't realize why see that's personal like when he throw them those scenarios i'm like okay somebody flirted with him when he flirted
Starting point is 01:44:37 with somebody and that's why he is a mental health advocate yeah because he's still working through some things yes i am that's why he pulled out his pants when he fought. I hate a little fuck, though. I don't fuck my clothes. See? He pulled out his pants when he fought. Yeah, like... I don't fuck my clothes.
Starting point is 01:44:48 I hate a little fuck, especially the Mexican fucks. What? Because they eat a lot of... No, never mind. Her boyfriend is Mexican. And black, but his eating habits
Starting point is 01:44:57 are very... Mexican. Yeah. And so, you know, I hate a little Mexican fuck. A little rice and beans rip-hitting him. Yeah, like, you know, with the queso Mexican for it. A little rice and beans rip hitting it for him. Yeah, like, you know, with the queso and all that. I'd be like, nah.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Yeah. Yo, we got chances of that coming up. Yes, Kim K loses over 100,000 followers behind Taylor Swift. Oh, okay. We'll get to that next. It's some beef. It's beef. It's beef?
Starting point is 01:45:22 Yes. It's the breakfast slogan morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious.'s beef. It's beef? Yes. It's the Breakfast Club in the morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to Jess with the mess. News is real, brother. News is real.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Jess Carabamore. Jess don't do no lying. Jess don't do no lying. She don't spare nobody. Worldwide Jess. Worldwide mess. On the Breakfast Club She's a culture shift
Starting point is 01:45:46 She was able to get y'all to see something And understand something That nobody could get you to see It's time to set it on Okay, so Kim K loses over 100,000 followers Thanks to Taylor Swift fans Now, on her newest album
Starting point is 01:46:02 She got a song called Thank You Amy Now, the only words that are capitalized is the K in thank and the I am in Amy. Right? So, her fans speculated that she's talking about Kim. Right. There's no direct lyrics that says,
Starting point is 01:46:17 oh, I'm talking about you, Kim. But she seems like she's confronting a bully from her past. Like, no matter how many times you try to knock me down, I'm going to get up and all that. So Taylor is spraying up on the block. Is she? Yeah, you know. But she sounds so sweet.
Starting point is 01:46:33 She's an American sweetheart. I like you playing white people's diss records this morning. You know what I'm saying? It provides balance. Thank you. We did the Drakes and the Quavos. Thank you. I like this.
Starting point is 01:46:42 I like this. She's not playing. What did Kim do to her, though? Listen, that's what she wants us to. She's trying to getavo's and Chris Brown. I like this. I like this. She not playing. What did Kim do to her, though? Listen, that's what she wants us to... She's trying to get us to figure it out. We got to pick it apart like we be picking apart the Drake stuff. We got to pick it apart. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:53 But I do know that last part that she was like, your kid's going to come home singing songs about me. She mentioned North? Yes. Because you know, North posted TikToks singing Taylor Swift songs many times before. Oh, this is beef. Absolutely. And she got those followers,
Starting point is 01:47:07 unfollowed Kim, and there's people in there saying, thank you, Amy. Thank you, Amy. Like, quoting. They unfollowed? Yes.
Starting point is 01:47:14 Oh, this is wild. You know how that is. We ain't got no more bars from Taylor, though? We ain't got no more bars from Taylor? No, we ain't got no more bars from her.
Starting point is 01:47:20 But her fans, Taylor's fans, are talking spicy up in Kim's comments. Oh, the Swifties don't play what they love that music crazy
Starting point is 01:47:28 so what's Kim gonna do back I don't know she might act like she gonna stay in her place if she know what I know because Kim ain't got no bars yeah she been in the studio
Starting point is 01:47:35 a few times but nothing serious we don't want her in there no we don't but is North gonna respond then might North might have some you know who daughter that is
Starting point is 01:47:43 that's right because North North got bars listen and yeah know who daughter that is. That's right, because North got bars. Listen. And yes. Bestie. The bestie. You know what?
Starting point is 01:47:49 It could get messy. You know what I'm saying? Taylor Swift music is like a mix between 80s movies, soundtracks, and herpes commercials. Herpes commercials. Like the same stuff you hear in 80s movies and herpes commercials. What herpes commercial you heard? That got music. That got soundtracks.
Starting point is 01:48:04 I don't know what that is. Her songs is not one. Soundtr's commercial you heard? I got music. I got Vowel Tracks. I don't know what that is. Her songs is not on those commercials. No, no. Also, Taylor Swift makes me understand why they have always called cocaine white girl. Because people are addicted to her. You hear me? Yes, they are. She sold 1.4 million in the first day and 2 million in the first week.
Starting point is 01:48:20 That's right. You better keep it coming. And so when she got a problem with somebody, you better believe they riding. With a rap album. That's not a rap album. That's not a rap album. Don't say that. Don't say that. No, no, coming. And so when she got a problem with somebody, you better believe they riding. With a rap album. That's not a rap album. That's not a rap album. Don't say that. Don't say that.
Starting point is 01:48:28 No, no, no, no. It's called the Poet, what's it called? The Poetic Poet something. Something about it, yeah. So she on her wale, okay? She is not playing. Yeah. She spitting these nice American sweetheart bars.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Beyonce did a country album, Taylor did a rap album, and she's selling two million in the first week. Crazy. Now listen, in UK news, I haven't done this in a while, y'all, but I got something. What you got? Rebel Wilson, the comedian actress. Y'all may know her from Bridesmaids and from Pitch Perfect 1 and 2 or whatever. She dropped a memoir earlier this month.
Starting point is 01:48:58 And in the book, she shared a story about getting invited to a swingers type of party. Right? Now that's not a big deal. But the person who invited her is a part of the royal family okay yes and we know they frown upon stuff like that so the party was back in 2014 and she got a last minute invitation because the royal members said that they needed more girls at the party right so she said around 2 a.m they started handing out candy uh freely but she realized it wasn't candy. It was drugs, right?
Starting point is 01:49:26 So then she was so confused, and she asked her friend, like, why are they handing out drugs? What's going on, right? And the friend was like, oh, it's for the orgy, right? The orgies normally start at this, like, start about at this time,
Starting point is 01:49:40 but she wasn't with none of that, so she got put out. So she's snitching. Tell her. That's why she won't be getting invited with none of that so she got put out so she's snitching telling that's why she wouldn't be getting invited but she wouldn't even invite it in the first place she was only there
Starting point is 01:49:52 she only made it in because they said we need more girls I would never invite I would never invite the person who invited her back to anything that I ever did
Starting point is 01:50:00 ever again because the friend the friend was like come on this is for the OGs like come on like celebrate this and she was like no I don't do that and she got Mm-hmm. Because the friend, the friend was like, come on, this is for the orgies. Like, come on, like, celebrate this. And she was like, no, I don't do that.
Starting point is 01:50:08 And she got put right up out of there. So. Okay. That's just what the mess. And her news is real. How many days does Kim have to respond?
Starting point is 01:50:17 Oh, my God. None. You're not giving her none? No. She not on the clock? No. Come on, y'all. If it come to studio time,
Starting point is 01:50:24 we want Kim Kardashian to throw her clock away. Remember that record she did back in the day that was so clock? No. Come on, y'all. If it come the studio time, we want Kim Kardashian to throw her clock away. Remember that record she did back in the day that was so terrible? Yes. Throw your clock away if you ever think about
Starting point is 01:50:31 being in the studio of Kim Kardashian. She could've got better shit since then. She been married to Ye. She been married to Ye. Ye ain't get better. So how she gonna get better?
Starting point is 01:50:39 Oh, my God. Well, I don't know. But we'll see. And I also want to remind y'all the second annual Black Effect Podcast Festival is happening this Saturday. Salute to everybody who's listening to us on 96.1 The Beat in Atlanta. We'll see you, I said Saturday, right?
Starting point is 01:50:52 Yeah, we'll see you Saturday at Pullman Yards in Atlanta, man. Wallow and Gilly on that stage. Just Hilarious on that stage. Horrible Decisions. Poor Minds Podcast. Debbie Brown. A lot of good stuff, just like last year. So we'll see you Saturday.
Starting point is 01:51:04 Still got some general admission tickets left. VIP is sold see you Saturday. Still got some general admission tickets left. VIP is sold out, but you still have some general admission tickets left. Go to eventbrite.com or black effect.com slash podcast festival. All right, let's see you Saturday. It's the breakfast club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:51:15 You're checking out the breakfast club. Morning, everybody is DJ Envy. Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the breakfast club. Salute to Bakari Sellers for joining us. Salute to the good brother, Bakari Sellers, man.
Starting point is 01:51:26 My South Carolina brethren. Make sure you go get the moment. Thoughts on the race reckoning that wasn't and how we can all move forward now within bookstores right now. Quick read. Quick read. 186 pages, I believe. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Or 178, actually. That's right. 178 pages. So these are my type of books. I'm at the point right now where I like to keep, you know, I like to read books that have short chapters because I can breeze through it, you know? Okay. Because, you know, everything is competing for our attention nowadays.
Starting point is 01:51:54 But salute to my guy, Bakari Sellers, man. Go get the moment. And this Friday, we're going to be broadcasting live from Clark, Atlanta. So salute to Atlanta. We'll be out there this weekend. Yes. We'll be out there. We were going to be out there anyway, right?
Starting point is 01:52:05 Yeah, but you know, the Black Effect, the second annual Black Effect Podcast Festival is Saturday. So, you know, might as well fly in. Pull up to HBCU. Yeah, might as well fly in Friday afternoon. Pull up to HBCU. We celebrate our new position on 96.1. That's right.
Starting point is 01:52:20 Well, it's really our old position. They just upgraded the signal. It moved us to a different frequency. Which is great. So now they can hear us all over Atlanta. That's right. We'll really our old position they just upgraded the signal and moved us to a different frequency which is great so now they can hear us all over Atlanta that's right we'll be the judges of that
Starting point is 01:52:28 we'll be in Atlanta on Friday to see if they can actually hear us all over Atlanta that is true and I think we're bringing somebody up there with us right
Starting point is 01:52:34 I have no idea okay I don't think anybody in Atlanta is going to be available why I think it's Rico's funeral it is Rico's funeral
Starting point is 01:52:41 rest in peace to the great Rico Wade man dungeon family all day I think it's his funeral on Friday it is if's funeral. Rest in peace to the great Rico Wade, man. Dungeon family all day. I think it's his funeral on Friday. It is Friday. It is. If that's the case, ain't nobody coming to no damn Clark Atlanta University while Rico
Starting point is 01:52:50 Wade funeral going on, and they shouldn't. Right. Pay homage to royalty, okay? Atlanta wouldn't be Atlanta without brothers like Rico Wade. That is correct. God bless Rico Wade, man. Send a healing energy to him and his family. That's right.
Starting point is 01:53:01 Yeah, but we'll be there Friday. Clark Atlanta University. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. Well, when we come back, positive notice to Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess O'Leary, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time to get up out of here. Charlamagne, you got a positive nook. I do, man. I want to remind y'all once again
Starting point is 01:53:17 to go get your tickets for the second annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. It's this Saturday, y'all. Okay, so we'll see you in Atlanta. Go to ventbright.com or blackeffect.com slash podcast festival. And I'm going to see you in Atlanta. Go to ventbright.com or blackeffect.com slash podcast festival.
Starting point is 01:53:26 And I'm going to tell you what I'm going to be doing in Atlanta on Saturday. And this is my positive note. Avoiding the unhappy and unlucky. Okay, you can die from somebody else's misery. Emotional states are as infectious as disease. You may feel you are helping the drowning person, but you are only speeding up your own disaster.
Starting point is 01:53:44 The unfortunate sometimes draw misfortune on themselves. helping the drowning person but you are only speeding up your own disaster the unfortunate sometimes draw misfortune on themselves they will also draw it on you associate with the happy and fortunate instead always avoid the unhappy and unlucky have a blessed day breakfast club bitches hey guys i'm kate max you might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not.
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