The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Ray J Arrested on Thanksgiving, Kandi Burruss Addresses Spending Holiday with Ex + TJames 'JJ'88' Jacobs, Contessa Gayles & Richie Reseda Interview

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, TJames ‘JJ88’ Jacobs, Contessa Gayles, and Richie Reseda talk Songs From The Hole, transforming prison experiences into purpose, and the healing power of art. ...Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to Juelz Santana after he says kids don’t really need to learn to read. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:21 Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Joe, yo. Just hilarious. Good morning. Shalamey running a little late, and it's Monday. Back to the work week. Yes, sir. How was your break?
Starting point is 00:03:37 How was your Thanksgiving? It was good, man. I felt good cooking. Listen, listen, I cooked half of everything, and then my mother-in-law cooked. I did not know that lady had chops like that in the kitchen. Mexican food? Like, no, Nick, no. We didn't have no Mexican food, Joe.
Starting point is 00:03:53 We did, okay, so we did turkey. Okay. Now look, I'm gonna say if I do turkey and turkey wings Because I don't like the whole turkey I just like the dog me So I did the turkey wings She did the turkey I did uh she did um sourcrete
Starting point is 00:04:05 I mean sourcrow with the pigs feet I know a lot of people don't do that But I do that still Collar greens with the hog not the hog mugs The uh the smoke pork neck Okay I know y'all probably ain't used to that No more but I do's that And then we had mac and cheese
Starting point is 00:04:21 For cheese making cheese Then now you made her mac and cheese Which was different so we had a mac and cheese off. I won, you know, obviously. And then we had yams and sweet potato cats roll. It was so much food. So there's no taco. Stuffing, no tacos, Joe? I'm just asking. No, she didn't want to do that. She wanted to be country and do it the black way. How was yours? I know you're all
Starting point is 00:04:44 different, mixed up in the house too. Yes, yeah. So Andrew's mom came. You know, Andrew's mom? Yes. I met her in Ohio. I love her. Yes. So her, her mother and his two siblings came. So, you know, we usually do like a Caribbean type of thing. So we usually have, we have oxdale, we have jerk chicken, we have curry chicken. We do the mac and cheese and all that other stuff as well. But because his family was there, we did the turkey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:06 We did ham and some of the traditional Thanksgiving feast. It was dope, though. We had a great time. We had a great time. Did they like the decorations? You know, you put up your decorations back in October. Yeah, they love the decorations. Yeah, they love the decorations.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I bet. And then I also had to, during the break, I had to fly to Alabama to do a show with Drew Hill and John B. Okay, Baltimore, Drew Hill. You know, I didn't know there was like eight members of Drew Hill now. Did you know that? No, I did not. They just kept coming on stage. It was like Cisco and Nokia and jazz.
Starting point is 00:05:35 What's the brother's name? I can remember. I don't know. But it's three more after that? Then I think player into the group, like the R&B group player, they're part of Drew Hill now. Somebody else's part of it. It was mad. It was on stage.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I didn't know why they had it. Why they asked so many people? It was mad. If they got only originals. Mad people on stage. Okay. I was trying to Google every time somebody came on stage. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I look like you. You know nobody. I didn't know nobody. Because I knew Cisco. I knew Nokia or knew jazz. Of course. The originals. And when player came on, I was like, I know player, but they're not Drew Hill. And I had to Google and see. Yeah. See, I got too. They was confusing. But, yeah. They killed it. They killed it. Drewill killed it. John B. Joe killed it. John B. Just a cool white boy. Yeah. Shout out to John B.
Starting point is 00:06:12 He performed. Yeah, he played the keys. He had his sunglasses. Oh, he's just a cool white. Yeah, he killed. He killed. He killed. He white? Or is he pulled around? I thought he's Puerto Rican. I thought he was white. John B. White? John B. White? Well, the last interview that we did with him up here, he do look like a member of Insank back in the day. But back in the day, he looked like our engineer,
Starting point is 00:06:29 he looked like, and you know, weird is Puerto Rican. No, John B. was Puerto Rican, all these things. No, John B. Damn, okay. I'm going to be singer John B. All right, all right. Well, let's get the show cracking. We got front page news when we come back.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Also, get it off your chest, 800585-105-1. And it's officially time. What? Now it's Christmas time. Oh, God. Okay. Now it's Christmas time. Now we should play Mariah.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Is Mariah officially thought out? Okay, we got 25 days. Now it's officially... 25 days of Christmas. The Christmas season. All right. Now we should be able to play this. Let's get it.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Let's get it. So back on the club, good morning. All right. That was Mariah Carey. The greatest Christmas song of all time. What's that? Belize Navidot. Your people's song?
Starting point is 00:07:10 That's not my people's. That song is so fire. What you're talking to you? Not today. Not my people. My favorite song is Give Love on Christmas Day by Johnny Gill. Mine is that Shaw House song. Christmas and Hollis and Christmas.
Starting point is 00:07:21 All of those are great, but Felice Navidad is really the slap of Christmas. You know she had tacos for Thanksgiving? I did not. My mother-in-law, cooks. No, no, no, no. We had turkey. We had ham. We had pulled crabs and everything.
Starting point is 00:07:34 They just put it in a taco. That's dope. That's right. That's what I said. No, they didn't. No, we did not do that. Why are you listening to him? Police Navidat.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Oh, wow. Police Navidat. That's the only part you know. No, I don't. What else you know? I want to wish you a man. The English part of the Merry Christmas. That's true.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Oh, my goodness. Morning, everybody. We are the breakfast club. Back to the work week. Let's get in front... Take that off, man. That's fires. Why do you hate on your own people? All right. Well, let's start off with sports. All right. Now, the... What? Yeah, the charges beat the Raiders last night. The Broncos
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Starting point is 00:08:25 on the Patriots. What's up, Mimi? Good morning, Mee. Judge Hellamane. How y'all doing this morning? Peace, Mimi. Good morning. All right, so we start this morning in Washington where investigators are still working through that ambush that killed one National Guard member and left another in critical condition
Starting point is 00:08:41 just blocks away from the White House. Now, officials say 20-year-old specialist Sarah Bextram was killed and 24-year-old staff Sergeant Andrew Wolf remains in critical condition after both were shot in broad daylight while walking their patrol route last week. Now, authorities say the gunman and Afghan refugee opened fire with a revolver before another guard member returned fire and detained him. He is now under guard at the hospital and prosecutors are pursuing a first degree murder charge. Now, in the wake of the
Starting point is 00:09:12 shooting, President Trump has paused all asylum decisions from so-called third world countries and ordered U.S. embassies to stop issuing visas to Afghan nationals while the administration reviews its vetting system. The White House is placing blame on the prior administration, even though immigration records show the suspect's asylum was approved this April under the Trump administration's own process. A national security officials say the suspect previously served on a CIA trained strike force in Afghanistan, meaning he would have had to gone through U.S. security vetting years before ever coming to the United States. Now, Homeland Security Secretary Christine Nome, she was asked about those conflicting details, including the vetting
Starting point is 00:09:52 and the asylum approval during an appearance yesterday on Meet the Press. Let's listen to that exchange. But I just want to be very clear about this because his asylum was approved in April of this year on the Trump administration's watch. Yeah, the vetting process all happened under Joe Biden's administration. So was he vetted when he was granted asylum? Are you saying he wasn't vetted when he was vetting is, vetting is happening when they come into the country, and that was completely abandoned under Joe Biden's administration. And that's why I'm so grateful we have a president now that isn't going to allow it to happen, that he now has put in place measures under his watch at the Department of Homeland Security that we are bringing in new information on vetting, new information to use, such as what do they do on Facebook? What do they do on TikTok and other social media platforms? well the president is now requesting an additional 500 national guard troops to be sent to
Starting point is 00:10:50 Washington and so far officials say they still do not have a motive for that shooting that took place I hate our things move so fast in this country like you hear about two national guard members getting killed before you can digest that Trump is permanently pausing my migration you know they're politicizing the situation already like I don't we don't even like you said we don't even know what the motive was yet exactly so there still investigating that. We're going to talk more to your point, Charlemagne, how fast the new cycle moves about
Starting point is 00:11:20 Venezuela in the next hour. We'll save that. But coming up at 7, a warning for anyone trying to stretch their dollar this holiday season. It is officially Christmas season. We'll tell you about the scams popping up online and how you can avoid them. And today is Cyber Monday, right? That's what the deals was going to be on line. We'll talk
Starting point is 00:11:36 about that as well. We're going to get all into it. All right. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-105.1. Let us know how your Thanksgiving week was, how you Thanksgiving was, how you're feeling? If there's some things you need to get off your chest, like I said, phone lines are wide open. Call us up right now.
Starting point is 00:11:49 1-800-5-105-1 is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hello? What's your name, bro?
Starting point is 00:12:05 My name is Eric from the song. Ed from the bra. Get it off your chest. Yeah, I'm just tired of doing politics. I'm just proud of doing it. Let's get dumb for the month, man. Huh? I said, let's get dumb for the month.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I'm with you. Let's just drink coquito and get high and just forget about everything for the tell-tale January 1st. I'm serious. Like, the politics are so real, man, that it's messing up the holiday season. Like, the holidays don't feel like the holidays
Starting point is 00:12:32 with so much that's going on in the world. Damn. No, silly. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, y'all have a good one. You too. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:12:41 Hello? Hey, what's your name, bro. Yeah, what's going on? This is Jimmy from the BX. Jimmy from the BX. So many people from the Bronx calling in this morning. Listen. I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Listen, Charlemagne. Yes, sir. We already know that Afghan immigrant. We already know what he came to do. He can't get to terrorize the United States. You got to stop picking and choosing on investigating stuff. We already know that they're terrorists or whatever. He can't get to do harm.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Who's that day? I mean, I don't know that. I mean, he did do harm, but I don't know that. I don't know nothing about him. No, you just right now, you just say, oh, that's not rush. judgment or whatever. I did not say that. Who the hell's like that?
Starting point is 00:13:16 You said it right now, not so long ago. That's crazy. I ain't say nothing about that. I said, we don't know the motive. Yeah, we don't know the motor, but we exactly know the motor. We got to slap sugar cord. I don't know the motor. We know the motor.
Starting point is 00:13:28 He wanted to do harm. He wanted to instill fear. Hey, man, leave me alone. I just got it. I don't got time. I just walked in the building. I really don't have time for this. I don't feel like this right now.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Hello, who's this? Good morning, y'all. This is Chi from Connecticut. So, too, Connecticut. Hey, Connecticut. You better be getting tickets for the show this weekend. I got you. I'm going to go and get it.
Starting point is 00:13:50 All right, Clay. I'm lying. I know you lying. I just let you go with it. But I love you, though. I love you, too. I love you too. What's up?
Starting point is 00:13:59 No, I just wanted to say shout-out to all of the parents that got their kids things throughout the years that were blessed to give the kids things throughout the years. So that this struggling Christmas season, we don't have to come. out of pocket for damn there anything like my kids i asked them today yesterday i said what y'all want for christmas they was like we have everything and i said you know what i ain't so that's amazing it's good when your kids it's beautiful when your kids know you broke yeah uh you're right oh when it's okay they understand yeah at this point they have more money than me in their little sandwich bag and they drawers they dress the drawers like they
Starting point is 00:14:40 yeah well i love your energy You don't sound down. You don't sound, you know what I mean? I love your energy. You know what you're going to do? What's you going to do about it? The day moves on, the year moves on, and money comes and goes. And you got life.
Starting point is 00:14:54 That's right. And you got life and you got good health. Like, that's the most important thing. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I told you out the last time I was on, like, when it comes down to my mental health, remember, I was telling you all I go to counseling. And that was one of the biggest things I went to counseling for.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Financial stress is just terrible. It wears on the body. So, nope, you can't, you can't worry about stuff like that. No, you can't. But you know what you need to do? You know what you could do? What can I do? You can come to the show.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Oh, for free? Yep. Yes, I'm in Hartford, Connecticut this weekend. At the Funny Bone Comedy Club Friday and Saturday. How far are you from Hartford? You said you're in Connecticut. It's about an hour, give or take. Dime.
Starting point is 00:15:36 It's 25 minutes to an hour. It depends on the traffic. Are you going to be able to get there? I'm in Norwalk. I'm in Norwalk. Okay. but are you going to be able to get there? Yeah, I could get there.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I got a car. See, they think you destitute. Hey, y'all. You got those $20 for gas to get there? Because she said the kids got more money in their sandwich bag than she got. So I'm like, is she going to be able to get there? I'm just like, dang.
Starting point is 00:16:00 You're going to throw $20 for gas for a jazz? No, I'm going to give her and two other tickets. Hold on, mama. Don't hang up. Get your information. Now you got a show this weekend. I got two shows this weekend. I'm in Hartford, Connecticut at the Funny Bone Comedy Club. We got two shows on Friday and two shows on Saturday, so I'll be there.
Starting point is 00:16:16 All right. Get our info on now. Don't leave her all. Yeah, I got a hole, so you'll grab it. 800, 585, 105.1. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlemagne. Enzy, what up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool. I want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now.
Starting point is 00:16:36 We'll tell you what it is. We lie? Yeah, hello? Hey, what's up, man? Get it off your chest. Hey, what's going on? this Molly Vita Electrician, man. I want to be a shout out for the breakfast club.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I just want to shout out all of my students is graduating from this trade school I teach at. Word. Shout that out, please, man. We're trying to encourage these kids to go to the trade school. It sound like you went underwater, man. Hello? Boy the devil busy, man.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Salute to any, all of them students that are graduating trade school, salute to Lincoln Tech. All the trade schools, whether it's welding, whether it's automotive, whether it's electrical, whether it's HVAC, whether it's what else they have? have um health care electricians i said electrician health care i was talking to one of my home girls yesterday she's a teacher and uh uh charleston and i don't want to say the school she teach that but she it's like a critical need school oh boy and she was telling me about these kids i
Starting point is 00:17:25 was like man these kids can't be as bad as you saying and then they was telling me about it and i'm like yeah they all need to go to trade school just pull them out of high school our teaching trades in high school man now you know trade school i always tell people if if you don't know what you want to do but you want a job that hopefully AI can't take over, it's definitely a trace. When you get a trade, you'll be good money. And they say the next generation of million is going to be the blue-collar workers.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yep. They need like a half a million, a half a million skilled laborers over the next five years. Yep. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1 if you need the vent. Hey, Lauren, how was Thanksgiving? Good morning. Thanksgiving was great.
Starting point is 00:18:00 My birthday was great. Yeah, I'm just floating. Y'all not. Not right? I am not pregnant. Thanks for checking. Did you accept his offer? Because he said, will you be my girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:18:09 I do. I know. I know what's not happening. I don't know what I did ask you to be his girlfriend. He took you all the way out of the country to ask you to be his girlfriend. Did you accept? We'll talk about it in the latest. Now you're two weeks pregnant and don't even know it.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Wow. Congrats on everything. I am not pregnant. Okay, I'm birth control down over here. You're not about, no, you're not. But when it's time,
Starting point is 00:18:28 I do need all the money and all the rich uncles. Why don't you took you up the country to ask you to be his girlfriend? It was my birthday. We'll talk about it, okay? I think it's dope. I don't want to talk about it. I want to talk about it. You've been up here saying all these things and I was not here.
Starting point is 00:18:41 That's something that. you're going to remember. He doesn't remember that. That's really dope. Took him out the country to ask you to be his girlfriend? You don't feel like that should be a formal ask of like, will you be my girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:18:49 I'm not leaving the country with you if I'm not your girlfriend already. Oh my God. It's crazy to me. Maybe it's different 2025. Maybe it's just sad. And in Bastain, well, right. What hell?
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Starting point is 00:19:30 All right y'all So the holiday weekend was pretty festive For some So we're going to start With Ray J and Princess Love So over the holiday weekend on thanksgiving morning actually uh ray j was uh he was arrested and he was charged with making a
Starting point is 00:19:47 criminal threat his bail was set to 50 000 which he later posted um and everything was on live stream um so let's take a listen to ray j and princess love get into it on thanksgiving morning what you're trying to do take my kids okay take your kids watch how they cry take my kids because you're drunk drive drunk princess right you just drive drunk you just pointed a gun drive drunk Drive drunk, Princess. You and your drunk, your drunk cousin? Because y'all drunk is fucking your alcoholics. Take my kids in.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Go ahead. Who's going to drive? Tony, he's been drinking, too. I'm not driving. Who's been driving? Everybody, everybody, I didn't point nothing at us. You put it at us. You put a gun at us.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Yeah, whatever. All I wanted to do is have a good thing. Why did you wake my daughter up? You're a woman abuser. You're a delusional. I'm a woman. That's what drunk people say. Bro the f*** up.
Starting point is 00:20:36 All right, cool. You eat a f***. You're not taking my son. Oh, no, don't touch you, don't touch it. Hey, I kill you, y'all. I kill you, bro. Stop. Okay, I'm trying to help you out.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I got to help you out. So what you hear, uh, is... They hear a lot of it. That is not okay. Okay. That is not okay. That is not okay. The dumb butt because the curse lit through the butt.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Yeah, well, what, but basically what happened. Um, and so I talked to Ray J, um, trying to kind of understand where all of this came from. Because Princess Love later went and explained her side of it and we'll listen to her as well. And she, because we were all trying to figure out why they were together on Thanksgiving being as though
Starting point is 00:21:15 they're separate and they co-parent. Like what made them choose to be together because we know that sometimes they, yeah, but they haven't had the best cordial relationship. So I just naturally would have assumed that they would have done Thanksgiving at two different places and figured that out.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Princess did the whole thing what she explained was. Yeah. So what I'm saying is we're going to get to that. But backtracking it, I asked Ray J, what was happening prior to this live stream and why did you go on live stream
Starting point is 00:21:38 to do all of this? And he says that they got into it downstairs. Yes, I spoke to Ray J. Yes. He says that they were prepping the food, you know, holidays, everybody's drinking, prepping food. And they got into a conversation about a woman that he's dealing with, Sheila, the woman that was up here with him. And he says that went left. And when that went left, things kind of got under control.
Starting point is 00:21:57 He says he claims he went on live stream because he wanted to have an account of things from his point of view because everyone else was recording in the house. So then we see or we hear all of the chaos, break out. he says that the police were called when you hear the police actually come into the house later on in the live stream and Ray J. Alleges there were like 14 police officers that showed up. The kids are screaming, crying, everything's happening
Starting point is 00:22:21 and then he's taken away. Now he also is saying to me that he did not pull the gun on Princess Love. In the live stream you do see him with a gun when he says that someone is coming up to grab his kids. He says that it was because of her cousin's
Starting point is 00:22:37 husband, the guy that you hear tackle Ray J. But he says that he would never have pulled a gun on his kid and his, you know, kid's mom. Now, Princess Love did go online and speak from her point of view and clear things on her. And I did reach out to her, but having heard back anything additional in this video. Let's take a listen. I just want to say, I've been doing a really great job at protecting my peace. I love my kids.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And I would never do anything to put them in danger, including leaving them with a man who's waving a gun around. I'm the best mother. and I do it alone while you're out here running around the world terrorizing women and abusing women. What I'm not about to do is let you deflect and not take accountability for your actions for pulling a gun out on me and my cousin's husband because I was trying to take my kids and leave your house. I agreed to come over there and cook for Thanksgiving because I wanted you to be around your kids with me present because the last time I left them with you, they found you naked in a bed with a woman. And when I tried to ask you about it, you told me to fuck myself and that I don't run
Starting point is 00:23:41 shit over there. Take accountability, Ray, do better. Take yourself into rehab because you're more than drunk. Everything I do, I do for my kids, including being around you when I don't want to or have to. I'm going to continue to pray for you and pray that you get the help that you need. Yeah. So the woman that she's mentioning, Ray J. told me is Michelle as well. And he said that the way that the incident happened, And it wasn't like he was just like aimlessly walking around with this woman in front of his kids. The house is separate where they were upstairs. There's nannies and he's back and forth. And then he was there with her.
Starting point is 00:24:14 But it didn't happen. He's a legend. It didn't happen the way that she's saying it. But he's also a legend that he didn't pull the gun on her. And at this point, too, I've asked him like, have you been able to talk to your kids? Because they're screaming at the top of their lungs at the end of that first recording. Have you been able to talk to them to just make sure they're okay? He says he hasn't talked to his kids and he probably won't until after everything ends.
Starting point is 00:24:33 and he's talking about he goes back to court on December 19th for this incident. So, yeah, that's where they've left off at this point. I wonder how much law enforcement uses social media content for situations like this. I'm sure a lot. A lot. Probably, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:48 They use it a lot in other situations, so I don't know why they wouldn't in this one. Well, it's not my business, but I wonder why Ray would have Sheila around his kids if he had his kids. You know, I mean, unless that was his girl and they were, you know, thinking about moving on. Like, would you have your kids around somebody?
Starting point is 00:25:03 just knocking off like in that kind of weird not really but that's the I mean yeah it's weird to answer your question but I mean that's his girlfriend right I mean he was just up here he told that was his girl right I don't remember couldn't really answer he didn't say that was yeah but he because I know everything is like for the antics and like the show this TV show yeah yeah but you know you just never know what is you know just I don't believe anything I see online when it comes from that way he got locked out I believe what I saw just now and I don't like none of it yeah no not that I'm talking about like with
Starting point is 00:25:33 his relationship with the girl, she'll know, like the press run that they're doing to me. He got a show on Zuz that he's trying to promote as well. So, I mean, I don't know if I believe that relationship, but if he was to have his kids around her, I mean, it would be because that's his girlfriend, I guess. I mean, who knows? I just wonder what makes people say,
Starting point is 00:25:48 I'm going to go live with this. Well, he's, like, why? I asked him that, and I said, I told him, I'm like, you know how stupid that was to see you on live with a gun in your hand? But he literally said to Cam Newton, did he say to Cam, or some one of those interviews that he did
Starting point is 00:26:01 where he's like, yo, as long as I'm going down, on a decline, whatever is negative, it sells. Like, nobody sees the good I do because I have to pay for people to post that. I don't got to pay for blogs to post anything negative about me, so I crash out literally, willingly. This is a bit much, because now you see the kick. But now he's banned from Twitch for Life.
Starting point is 00:26:19 He is banned. He had to go over to kick once he got released. We have that audio. But he said he went live to protect himself. Let's take a listen to him after he was released on kick. I just got out of jail. That's not cool. Jail was not okay, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Just arguing with this in here It's fucking off in jail It was crazy, yeah Bro, I'm almost peeping in the fuck full time Because I'm like, bro, I'm trying to survive in here, bro He did what? Fing up in here, bro, under his bed, bro. It was crazy, almost beat that shit under his bed, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Talking about Ray J, Ray J, it was a lot. Never go to jail, y'all. It was really bad. Nah, we banned from Twitch permanently, forever. We'll never be able to go back on Twitch. We just transferred over. They banned me permanently. because I was defending my kids, but it's cool.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I'm not worried about it, bro. I don't work for none of these, I don't work for nobody. So he did show the gunner, because I didn't, yeah, he did. You don't see him pull it or point it at Princess Love in the videos I saw. You just saw him holding a gun. You DC, but you hear him threaten and shoot the is shot of somebody. That's the guy that comes in. See, that's why I say I don't see how going live protects him in this situation
Starting point is 00:27:29 because if somebody accuses you appointing a gun at them, and then you, in the video, with a gun. You know, people are just going to start piecing all types of things together. Right. You know, I don't see how that helped him in this situation. Yeah, I don't either. Yeah, he's claiming it's because they were, the guy was trespassing because he shouldn't have been upstairs in his home or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I understood that now. Yeah, when I saw the random guy come in, I understood that because I didn't know who that dude was. But once again, we don't know the context. We just know he went live in that moment. We don't know everything that happened around that situation. Well, the guy was her cousin's husband, right? Yeah. And he says that he came.
Starting point is 00:28:01 upstairs because Princess Left told him to come and help her get the kids but Ray J said basically that crossed the line Princess of course you're going to come get the kids do what you're going to do I ain't going to argue with you he said he would never put it he wasn't going to put his hands on or anything like that either but the husband he said that crossed the line in his room and tried to get his kids out of his bed
Starting point is 00:28:18 they did get the kids out of bed they were asleep yeah so yeah there's going to be more because he will be in court in a few weeks so we'll keep you guys updated all right that's the latest for Lauren we come back we got front page news so don't go Anywhere's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's the J-N-V. Jess Hilarious.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. Let's get in some front-page news. Now, the Bengals beat the Ravens, Dolphins beat the Saints, Jets beat the Falcons. Wow. Panthers beat the Rams. Buckinaires beat the Cardinals. The bills beat the Steelers. Chargers beat the Raiders. Seahawks beat the Vikings. The Jaguars beat the Titans. The Browns lost to the 49ers. Texans beat the Coles. The Bears beat the Eagles. And the Cowboys beat the Chiefs. We definitely did. And tonight and Monday night football. Oh, the Giants will get their ass kicked by the New England Patriots.
Starting point is 00:29:04 The Giants don't even care no more. It's over. It's fine. It's all right. I mean, they ain't cared all season. We're going to be good next year. What's your record? We're like two and something.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Damn. Something. Yeah, something. Okay. Like two and eight, two and nine, something like that. Two and nine, I believe. Yeah. What's up, Mimi?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Get me out of here. I'm coming for you, Envy. So, good morning, y'all. Oh, two and ten, actually, Mimi. Two in ten. I'm sorry. Two and ten to John. I was trying to move fast.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I'm sorry. He's kidding. Stop me. All right, y'all. Well, to new fallout this morning over those U.S. military strikes on suspected drug trafficking boats in the Caribbean, those strikes have now killed over 80 people.
Starting point is 00:29:39 According to a Washington post-report Defense Secretary Pete Hetzeth, he allegedly told troops who, quote, kill everybody during an operation in early September. And sources familiar with the mission say a second strike was later carried out that killed the survivors of that first hit.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And the Pentagon has it confirmed those allegations but the allegations alone, they have triggered bipartisan oversight on Capitol Hill where lawmakers are now looking into whether the missions broke U.S. or international law. And the administration, they maintain that the people killed were, quote, narco-terrorists tied to foreign terrorist organizations and that the strikes are legal because drug cartels
Starting point is 00:30:17 have been labeled as terrorist groups under the Trump administration. Meanwhile, Heg Seth, he's pushing back. He's calling the report fake news and insisting the strikes were aimed, at stopping drug smuggling boats. And President Trump, he's defending him to a group of reporters this weekend on Air Force One. Let's listen to that exchange.
Starting point is 00:30:35 He didn't even know what people were talking about. So we'll look at, we'll look into it. But no, I wouldn't have wanted that, not a second strike. The first strike was very lethal. It was fine. And if there were two people around, but Pete said that didn't happen. Does that make you?
Starting point is 00:30:51 I have great confidence. He said no second strike. I don't know. I'm going to find out about it. Pete said he did not order the death of those two men. Do you have any concerns about how those boat strikes have been carried out at all? Very little, because you can see the boats. You can see the drugs in the boats.
Starting point is 00:31:09 So the president doesn't need to be brief beforehand? I thought he did. You don't know about the second scratch. So I'm trying to figure out it. Yeah. Well, the president also says that he's going to pardon the former president of Honduras, who was serving 45 years for helping cartels move cocaine into the U.S. Trump said that the former president of Honduras, he was treated unfairly, but some lawmakers,
Starting point is 00:31:32 they are noting the contrast that the administration is striking alleged narco-terrorists on boats while pardoning a leader convicted of drug trafficking. And meanwhile, the president is ordering the airspace over Venezuela close as the U.S. increases its military presence there. So we'll continue to watch what's happening. Talk about a lack of consistency. Jesus Christ. For sure.
Starting point is 00:31:55 A lot of people are pointing that out. And now to a story in Northern California where investigators are searching for whoever opened fire at a child's birthday party in Stockton, a mass shooting that left four people dead, including three children and 11 others injured. Officials say more than 100 people were inside a banquet hall on Saturday evening when the shooting started indoors and spilled outside. The victims were just eight, nine, and 14 years old, along with a 21-year-old adult. officials believe this was a targeted attack and are asking the community for surveillance video tips, even rumors that could possibly help identify the shooters. On Sunday, families returned to the scene to collect their children's birthday gifts and belongings, city and county leaders.
Starting point is 00:32:39 They are calling on the shooters to come forward. They are urging neighbors to come forward with any information. I've been in touch with Stockton Vice Mayor Jason Lee, who grew up in the area and has been with families on the ground. He spoke at a prayer vigil yesterday, urging families to stay calm and to not retaliate as families begin to process their trauma. Let's listen to some of that. But what I will say to the people that did this is it's never been gangst to kill kids. Never.
Starting point is 00:33:06 It's never been gangst to kill kids. You went in a birthday party and shot people's children. Parents brought their children out and they left with medical examiners. That is not human. That is not human. And I will say to those who are thinking of retaliation, when my brother got murdered, I thought about it too. It's human to want to hurt people who hurt people you love. But I had a choice to make, and I hope that the people out there in our community make the right choice.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And contact law enforcement, call me, call the mayor, call whoever you know, call the pastors, call your friend, turn yourself in. Because at some point, the redemption for what you did is going to happen when you see the person that created you. but you can start that process by turning yourself in and doing the right thing today Hey Jason is right but whatever happens to those people happens to them man
Starting point is 00:33:55 F them you know like that I feel like you gotta find them type of folks and bury them under the jail or whatever happens in the process of you know them getting caught
Starting point is 00:34:06 it just you know whatever happens to them happens I can care less you pull up to a birthday party and shoot off all those shots and kill kids come on man can you imagine no I can't imagine
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Starting point is 00:35:10 I was literally, I was like, this doesn't track for me at all. When he found out Trey's shortcomings. I'm kind of excited. talking about, you know, I think he's a guy spends time in Central Park, you know, he's probably, you know, he'll be some surgery stuff, you know, and I was like, all this kind of stuff going on. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. And they said, but he's impotent. And I was like, he's impotent. And why he chose not to return to it just like that. They came and presented an idea. And I was like, I get, I see it. It's so kind of a one joke idea.
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Starting point is 00:39:02 Right before Christmas. Man. Very, very sad. The city says counselors will be available at school this week, especially since one of the youngest victims. She was a student in the district, and their parents worked for the school system. The district attorney is urging the shooter
Starting point is 00:39:16 or the shooters to turn themselves in. And Stockton is now offering a 25,000 reward for information leading to the arrest. How old are these kids, maybe? Do they say? They were 8, 914. Yeah. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yeah, and the oldest one was 21 as an adult, but there are still 11 others injured, so we'll continue to watch and see, you know, what their progress is. We don't know this morning, but there's been 380 mass shootings in the U.S. so far this year, and a mass shooting is where four more people have been shot.
Starting point is 00:39:46 shot. So it's a very sad situation. Thank you, Mimi. Of course, that's your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown TV. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network. Download the free IHeartRadio app or visit BIN News.com. Peace, Mimi. All right, me. Now, when we come back, we have James J.J.88 Jacobs, Contessa Gales, and Richie Reseda when we come back.
Starting point is 00:40:12 They have a new documentary. It's called Songs from the Whole. Now, it's a documentary that details James' life. He was convicted of murder as a teenager. When he got to jail a day later, he found out that his brother had died and brother got killed. Yeah, a lot of people have been watching it on Netflix, so I can't wait to talk about it with them. Yeah, so we're going to talk to him next about it. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Sholomey and you guy. We are the breakfast club. Long LaRose is here today. We got some special guests in the building from the documentary on Netflix songs from the whole. We have James Jacobs, JJ 88. We have Contessa Gales and
Starting point is 00:40:47 Richie Reseda. Welcome. How are you guys feeling? It's on Netflix right now by the way. Yes. How are y'all feeling? Great. Feeling good. Happy to be here. Now for people that haven't seen the documentary, break down what the documentary is about. Well, it's a documentary visual album. We tell the story of my life when I was 15. I was incarcerated for second degree murder. And during that time, I spent 18 years in prison and during that time. I wrote an album. I met him. We produced and recorded that album in prison. And I wrote the visuals. We met Contessa and grew to his film, essentially. I want to ask you something,
Starting point is 00:41:23 Adia. You know, at 15, you committed a crime. It was murder. And three days later, your brother was killed. Yeah. But how did those two events so close together, I guess, shape your sense of identity and ultimately give you purpose, I guess? Oh, yeah. Um, well, At first, it took me down, like, a really dark, like, mental place. And after coming through, like, you know, suicidal ideations and just, at first I just felt like, at first I just felt kind of purposeless. I took a life which at 15 is kind of hard to hold and really recognize the gravity of it. But by the time I was 18 and in prison, I just kind of felt worthless. and without hope.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And losing my brother within that span was kind of like, he was kind of who I was emulating and admiring growing up. So it really devastated me. However, like through music, it kind of gave me a place to talk about it and talk about what me and the homies was just experiencing, what me and my family went through. And so through, I guess through music is where I kind of found
Starting point is 00:42:40 purpose in my story and where I could use it. I want to talk about when you was 15, man, because you said something that I often feel like with these kids, and all of us with kids at some point, you make a terrible choice, a temporary decision, you know, at least, I mean, a temporary feeling leads to a permanent decision, you know. Do you really understand the consequences of your actions at that time?
Starting point is 00:43:03 I mean, not in the way that I do now. When you're 15, you know, I mean, I mean, I think when I was a kid, I knew if you shoot someone, they could die. Like, I know that. I've seen people die. I've seen violence in my community. But I don't think I knew what it meant, for real, like the finality of it at 15. I don't think I knew truly at 15 the impact it was having not only on this person, but their family.
Starting point is 00:43:35 when there's people that I've like got back in touch with since I got home who were you know there that night and had to witness that and that night altered their life and I didn't learn that until I was in my 30s so you you don't at 15 you don't understand the gravity of it but you do understand that it is serious and the older I got the more mature I became the more I understood how serious it is which is why we make this film for you were charged as an adult not a child why was that because California is racist to put it simple at 15 serving 18 years it just seems like in any other state you would have been charged as a child
Starting point is 00:44:21 giving a second chance another opportunity on life they're doing it in other states too they charge they charge kids as adults because they want to take away futures and they have a belief in In this, like, punishment system, we live in a culture where revenge is normal.
Starting point is 00:44:42 We value it as a culture. Revenge is something that we explore. Me being a perpetrator of murder and having my brother murdered is something that I had to face for myself, you know? So the reason why they charge us as adults when we're kids is because they believe in revenge. They believe in retribution. They believe in eye for an eye. 15 years old when you were sitting in front of the judge not really understanding what's happening in your sentence
Starting point is 00:45:10 and the doc, you talk about looking over to your attorney and being like, so when am I going home? Yeah. Right? At that moment, as a kid, what did you need outside of just being locked the way behind bars? Like, what could they have given you that would have actually, like, in that moment,
Starting point is 00:45:25 helped you reform? Do you mean, like, after I've committed murder, like, what to offer a kid? Yeah, like, what should be the, you know, the rehabilitation of a person that is 15, years old that murders a person um i don't know what it should be i can tell you what i did um what what helped me was like um just having safe places to talk about it so i didn't to talk about what i had done um i don't think i needed to necessarily be locked away once i committed murder i knew
Starting point is 00:45:57 it was foul um i felt the seriousness of it it wasn't like i was i wasn't celebrated um by my homies so I knew that this was not the move to make but I needed to understand why and I didn't get that opportunity in court they don't give you an opportunity to understand why you are in this moment how serious it is that that you have taken a life and there's no plan to help you mature through it and process it you know you said you weren't celebrated you also talk a lot about how you thought like you know this is kind of like a song like we talk about in the songs. The song is over.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah. So you had an idea of what you thought committing a crime would be like, and then you actually found yourself committing. Yeah. I mean, that's true for a lot of my homies. We listen to music, and this is no, this is no, like, condemnation on, like, hip-hop and the music we grow up on. I think it's just true that when I listen to music as a kid,
Starting point is 00:46:59 when I watch films as a kid and I saw violence, it didn't seem, you know, the, cuts off. And then I see the on the red carpet, excuse me, I see him on the red carpet. Like,
Starting point is 00:47:11 it's regular. You don't really understand that that person in that story didn't come back in real life. And so, as a kid, I thought,
Starting point is 00:47:21 you know, in 2003, 2004, I was listening to get Richard die trying. And like, that was the epitome of being a gangster.
Starting point is 00:47:31 And so, once I realized after, you know, as a kid, It's not, it ain't, you know, just a song. Like, when you go back to your homies, they're going to look at you and they're going to be scared of you. They're going to look at you and they're going to have real fear.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Like, what did you just do? The homies ask me, what you just do, fool? What did you do? Like, why did you do that? The homie, everybody I know who had a murder in prison, like, none of them got dapped up when their homies found out. Everybody got enough for what? They might talk about it. and they tell
Starting point is 00:48:07 war stories, sure, but it's like, not after it happened. I don't know nobody who got dapped up directly after, like, oh, we did that, let's go. The bitch is in that car, quiet. Dealing with the gravity. Smoking, drinking.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah, trying to numb out. Them out. honorable to me, especially in the context of just regular street. Contested and Ritchie, how did y'all connect with James to help him tell the story? So what 88 didn't share was that he wrote the music that's in the film in solitary confinement. After he got out of solitary, he transferred to the prison where Ritchie was at, and that's how they met. He could talk about how they collaborated more on the music. But I met the both of them when I was filming a documentary for CNN.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I used to work at CNN, and the last project I did for them was a feature called The Feminist on Cell Block Y. And it was about a group that Ritchie had co-founded in prison and was leading for his fellow incarcerated men where they were reading feminist literature, like Bell Hooks, and, you know, learning about patriarchy and how it shows up in their lives and unlearning it.
Starting point is 00:49:29 So Ritchie was leading that group, and 88 was a participant and a co-facilitator of that group. And that was the first time that I heard a little bit of 88's story. And it was the last day of filming that documentary had nothing to do with the group, but the two of them were in the prison gym. And it was Richie's last day at the prison. He was about to be transferred to finish his sentence somewhere else. And they had the prison rental keyboard, and Richie had the keyboard on a trash can,
Starting point is 00:49:56 and 88 was singing and rapping some of those songs that he wrote in solitary. And there was a group of the guys gathered around, and they knew all the lyrics, so you could tell, like, this is, you know, something that they've been sharing. And I was just struck by, like, how powerful the music was, how much storytelling there was in 88's lyrics. But I didn't know the context of, you know, his story and the relationship between that and the music and how he came to the whole and writing that music in the hole. Fast forward a year after that film came out, they both approached me about, you know, would you want to work on a visual album? using 88's music, you know, you heard some of it. I was like, send me what you got.
Starting point is 00:50:38 And I, once I would like listen to the recordings and really like over the course of our development got to know more about how 88 came to the whole and then writing the music there and then what they were able to do inside producing a whole album, I knew that that we had something really special that could really be a testimony. Like 88's story is a testimony and the music is so, um, impactful in being able to like hold the narrative and tell his story so we started collaborating from there and really like evolved our relationship from this like kind of more traditional space of like journalistic i was the filmmaker they were the film participants to like co-collaborators
Starting point is 00:51:19 on this project and it was a true collaboration like 88 was inside the whole time we were eight months into the edit when he was released and and we managed to figure out how to collaborate um across the prison walls through phone calls, through letters, you know, 15-minute phone calls at a time. That's how we met. I got a two-part question for you, 88. What are you going to ask, Ritchie, how did he met? Because I know you asked both of them, but Richie didn't.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yeah, Richie could fill in more, though, with it. I had met 88 while I was in prison. I had just released an album from prison, so everybody at the prison kind of knew me as a producer. So when 88 got to the yard, the people who knew him from other prisons were like, you got to meet 88, you got to meet 88. And, you know, I wasn't a lot of,
Starting point is 00:52:00 Everybody in prison think they can rap just like everybody on the streets think they can rap. You know what I'm saying? You got a way to go without his shit. Yeah. I wasn't like in a rush to meet him necessarily. I was like, okay. But when I did meet him, we have a homie named Talib who was trying to put together a poetry book. So he was bringing all these artists together and we had met in the law library.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And I heard him rap and sing. And I was blown away. Honestly, he could both rap and sing very well, which a lot of people can't do. Usually they do one well, and then the other they kind of do for fun. And the story he was telling and the position he had on it, it's not an easy thing to make music that doesn't necessarily glorify or judge the streets. And I was like, yo, let's make this album. Y'all had only equipment in jail?
Starting point is 00:52:56 You are able to have the equipment in jail? No, we broke the rules. Okay. The way that we made the album was against the rules. Well, y'all out now, so I said, how do you do it? But I can't tell you. Because there's people in who still make music that way. But, yeah, the way we made this album in prison was completely against the rules.
Starting point is 00:53:13 The prison was against it in every way. They ran up in my cell. They threatened to send me to the hole for making music. But it was like- They denied me at board for making music. Really? I was able to be a part of a collaboration that, Richie was EPN, and it featured incarcerated artists and free artists.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And when I got to board, they named that as like a reason why I was a danger to society is that you make music. Wow. Yeah. It's important to point out. He had life. He wasn't sentenced to 18 years. He was sentenced to 40 years to double life. Right. So, you know, we didn't know when 88 was coming home. We knew spiritually he was coming home, but we didn't know when he was coming home. So when we finished the album, we were like, you know, typically you finish. you do an album, then you tour it. And we didn't have that opportunity with him. So we were like, let's do a visual album. And that's kind of how the idea began. Then we approached Contessa,
Starting point is 00:54:08 and she built it out to an actual film. One other question. Is it true that you can't profit off of a crime that was done? Is that true? I always have to hear that. So in California, the way that the law is written is that basically you can't take, if you're incarcerated in California, you can't talk about your crime in a way that makes you money.
Starting point is 00:54:26 So you can't write a book about it and make money. You can't make music about it or a film. or anything and make money. All of that typically has to go to the people who are impacted by about the crime. And 88's case is unique in that his, he didn't, the album in the film is not about the fact that he harmed somebody, but rather that he had committed harm and he had been harmed, that his brother was murdered. So, but we also didn't release it until he got out.
Starting point is 00:54:54 During your time, I was talking about 88, like you turned music into a lifeline. right like what was the moment you realized music was an escape for you but I know that probably what kept you saying in the hole yeah as soon as I got in when I as soon as I got locked up I knew I grew up with music I grew up in a church I grew up singing I grew up rapping I started like writing in about the seventh grade so when I got locked up you don't know what the hell to do when you're a kid just in a box kind of you just sitting there thinking you're listening different sounds and suddenly next to me the cell next to me
Starting point is 00:55:31 is the hummy we call him Johnny West Jonathan Marquez he beating on the bed and he rapping but he rapping radio songs some of his
Starting point is 00:55:40 you know he was rapping some of his stuff but mostly he was just rapping songs that we all knew and so I was like hey yo I yelled through the van
Starting point is 00:55:47 like yo I could I could rap too like when we come out we're gonna rap we get to the day room he beat on the table and when I perform like these little
Starting point is 00:55:54 chicken shit ass excuse my language these little like you know raps I wrote in this series the you know the kids is kind of like yo you are and it's it's like changing the environment so when I when I realized like oh I could impact people around me just by you know occupying our time they're not like annoyed trying to get away from me they like spit that song um I started
Starting point is 00:56:18 to do it more and then I shared it with my father who um is an elder in the church and doesn't listen to hip hop and he's just like well you know son um you Music brings people joy. So if you share your gift with them and become their joy, they will protect their joy. And so share your gift with people, and you'll see that. Is that the moment you realize that music can also be your voice? Yeah, I mean, I've always known music was a medium to, like, express myself and use my voice. It was going to come in some oratory fashion for me, my dad being a pastor, my mom being a singer.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I knew, like, the power of my voice. I just didn't know the significance of it. Sometimes I still don't, but I didn't know that it could be meaningful to write what's happening in my life. To be meaningful that people would actually value it and care about it until I started to see the impact I was having on the yard. Contested, there's footage in the dock that shows a time when 88 and his family was still fighting for him to get out of prison. What made you see the value in his story before? knowing he'd be free than it. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:57:31 The value to me was the music itself, and, you know, I think we can share a little bit. I hope folks go watch the film on Netflix, but the whole story is leading up to the moment where 88 realizes that he's incarcerated with the person who killed his brother. Mm-hmm. Knowing that and what happened after that,
Starting point is 00:57:52 maybe that's the part I won't say, but that there was like so much power for healing and transformation, if people heard this story, to understand that, you know, what we were talking about in terms of, like, our culture's obsession and reliance on retribution and punishment and revenge, like, we can choose something else in our interpersonal relationships and systemically. So that's what drew me to it. But, no, we had no idea that 88 would have the opportunities that he had to come home.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Like Ritchie said, he had 40 years to life plus life. And we kind of structured the whole narrative arc of the story around spiritual freedom and like internal healing and freedom. And that's, you know, each music video treatment kind of builds on that healing the younger self. We didn't know that we would have the ending that we would have in the film when we started. And once those opportunities started picking up, so we're following, you know, his family going to court, what's condensed. down in the film was two and a half years of going to court. And then commutation from the governor, we had to follow it in real time because it was so, it was relevant to the story.
Starting point is 00:59:06 But it really was never a film about, because I think there's a lot of films about incarceration where it's centered on, does the person get to come home? And do we all get to celebrate at the end if they come home? We wanted to resist that because we really wanted it to feel like everyone watching this had an entry point into their own healing. So to make it about the spiritual journey was more satisfying for me, creatively, and I think for all of us spiritually. But then, you know, we got, we got the legal reason why I got home is irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Because it's not legality that's going to get us free. For the incarcerated and for us as a people. It's found on that, brother, because I like what you're going with this. It's fine on that. So what I'm saying is like we participate in this system. We vote, we pay our taxes, we do the thing, and it's not working. It's not working for nobody. So it's working for the people who set it up.
Starting point is 01:00:11 That's true. It's working for, you know, some, but it's for for us. The system is working for the people who are designed to work for. Right. For us, it's a different story. And so my logic tell me it ain't going to be that that give me free. No, I agree with that. I've been running that thought in my mind lately.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Like, I think that we're just past the point of any political solutions. No. You know? We need freedom. Freedom now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to ask, you know. Oh, Richie, Rich you're about to say something.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I was just going to quickly say it's, it's, if you think about it, like, it's kind of silly to even believe that a system that was also set up by other flawed human beings is perfect. And that just by following the rules or voting or just, like, following the system that someone else set up, that that's all that's needed. And when our problems are so great, like actually, I think it calls upon us to say, okay, we can look at how this system is an improvement from, you know, the feudal system in kings and queens and serfs.
Starting point is 01:01:11 And, okay, we've improved from there. And there is much more improvement that needs to be done if we're going to live in integrity with each other in the earth. I wanted to ask, you know, it's hard not to talk about this because you really want people to see it, right? you want people to see the ends and out to this documentary. But I do want to ask about forgiveness, right? I was talking to Lauren earlier, and she was like certain things I just can't forgive, right?
Starting point is 01:01:35 She was like, I can't, like, you know, my family can and I can't. And I think Charlemagne knows me. There's certain things I ain't forgiven. It's like, it just is what it is. It's just, how did you find, I would say, I don't even want to say the courage, but how did you break down and be able to forgive somebody, especially the person that, you know, killed your brother. How, like, when did that happen? Was it immediately?
Starting point is 01:01:55 Did it take some time? Was it talking to me, a dad who was a pastor? When? Um, it, when I'm editing, I had to make a decision. It is not a superpower. It is not an impossibility to, to, you know, all due respect to the things you say you can't forgive. It's not.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I'm just not there yet. I'll get there one day. I'm just not there yet. But truly, it's a matter of choosing it. it's a matter of saying to me what I this is how I defined forgiveness for myself in that moment
Starting point is 01:02:26 you you kill my brother right how you get that back how he gone can't gone what do you owe me now
Starting point is 01:02:40 because that's what we're talking about in retribution in a retitory like system it's like now you owe me so this man Jay killed my brother now you owe me what do you owe me you owe me my brother what's the value of my brother's life it ain't even yours it ain't even your life for real your life is value differently
Starting point is 01:03:01 than my brother so i can't just take your life so now i know you can't pay me back so what i'm gonna do be mad my whole life i know you can't give it back i know you can't that's first for forgiveness i know you can't pay that debt so forgiveness to me is releasing within myself what I think you owe me because you hurt me. It's just letting go this idea that you're going somehow give it back or you're going to somehow realize that you owe it. It has nothing to do with you. It has everything to do with me letting go of what it is.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I think you owe me because you did me sour. Right. Now add to that, I did somebody file. I did a number of somebody's file throughout my life. And I am not like, that's not my legacy that I want to leave it's not something that I want to be like I want to be known for hurting people nobody wants to be known for hurting people um and when you hurt someone as seriously as I have and you you want to be accountable for it um then you got to look at all the parts of your life but you were accountable if that individual wasn't accountable no no no if he wasn't accountable it don't make no difference are are you accountable are you accountable? about you yeah question don't you gotta give
Starting point is 01:04:19 you would have to give the person who killed your brother the same grace you would want the people family that you know you killed to give you right that's true and and I think that was clear
Starting point is 01:04:34 for me but I do not think that that is a requirement for forgiveness that you have to do an equal harm in order to forgive somebody who was harmed to because the truth is we all commit harm daily um in some form or another and i think when for me to forgive um i knew i wanted it in my life
Starting point is 01:04:56 i was i was trying to be as accountable um as i could be growing up in prison um but i i knew i wanted forgiveness more than i wanted anything because forgiveness symbolized being restored back to my community it symbolized me being restored back to my value that my grandmother sees when she look at me, you know, but I know the more and more I become accountable, it's not, forgiveness isn't something I can ask for. It's not even, I just took everything or I took a lot. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers, but it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long
Starting point is 01:05:43 Island serial killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York since the son of Sam, available now. Listen for free on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Kristen Davis, host of the podcast, Are You a Charlotte? The most anticipated guest from season three is here, The Trey to My Charlotte. Kyle McLaughlin joins me to relive all of the magical Trey and Charlotte moments. He revealed, what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby. Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I was literally, I was like, this doesn't track for me at all.
Starting point is 01:06:23 When he found out Trey's shortcomings... I'm kind of excited at talking about, you know, I think he's a guy spends time in Central Park, you know. He's probably, you know, he'll be some surgery stuff, you know. And I was like, all this kind of stuff going on. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. And they said, but he's impotent. And I was like, he's impotent.
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Starting point is 01:07:04 You'll hear us being completely honest about her own health. I'm talking about very serious stuff right now, and you're laughing at. And you'll hear candid advice and personal stories from experts who want to make health care more human. Sometimes you're there to listen, to understand, to empathize, maybe to give them an understanding or a name for what's going on. That helps people a lot, understanding that it's not just in their head. We are breaking down the science, talking with experts, and sharing practical health tips you can actually use in your day-to-day life. From when to utilize and avoid artificial light to how to sleep better. Everything you need to know about fiber and how to poop better.
Starting point is 01:07:43 How to minimize the effects of jet lag and how to stay hopeful in times of distress. We human beings, all we want is connection. We just want to connect with each other. We want to make health less confusing and maybe even a little fun. Find health stuff on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The forces shaping the world's economies and financial markets can be hard to spot. Even though they are such a powerful player in finance, You wouldn't really know that you are interacting with them.
Starting point is 01:08:13 And even harder to understand. Donald Trump's trade war, 2.0, is only accelerating the process of de-dollarization, which in a way is jargon for people turning away from the dollar. That is where the big take from Bloomberg podcast comes in, to connect the dots. How unusual is a deal like this? Unprecedented. Every weekday afternoon, we dive deep into one big global business story. The biggest story of the reaction of the oil market to the conflict in the Middle East is one of what has not happened. Katie, you told me that ETFs are your favorite thing.
Starting point is 01:08:48 They are. Explain that. Why is that the case? And unpack what it means for you. Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples, and so they sort of become outsized indicators of inflation. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Robert Smith, and this is Jacob Goldstein, and we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History, about the best ideas and people and businesses in history. And some of the worst people, horrible ideas, and destructive companies in the history of business.
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Starting point is 01:10:08 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast from you. And now I'm going to ask you to give me something else. Like give me grace. That's not something I feel willing to ask for. However, what I can do is plant the seed in the universe. I can plant the seed in my daily walk and in the way I live. And maybe it'll come back. Maybe it'll come to somebody who needs it in my life.
Starting point is 01:10:34 But either way, a friend of mine, Chris Wachnick used to always say so accede from your greatest need. What you need the most, go give it to somebody. Songs from the whole, the documentary on Netflix right now. Definitely check it out and we appreciate you guys for joining us. Thank you for having us truly. James, JJ 88
Starting point is 01:10:51 Jacobs, Contessa Gales, and Richie Small are receiving. Thank you so much. That's the breakfast club. Lauren becoming a straight fact. Tell her, man. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets to detail.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I'm a home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest. On the Breakfast Club. Talk to me. Okay, so the Reckoning, which is a new Diddy documentary, will stream on Netflix on December 2nd,
Starting point is 01:11:28 and it will be brought to us by 50 Cent. So 50 Cent is the executive producer of the documentary, and then Alexandria Stapleton, who is an award-winning director, is also helping him. bring this project to Netflix. Now, today, this morning, 50 Cent will, in Alexandria, will be on Good Morning America. That goes live at 8 a.m. And we'll actually be revisiting once they're actually live
Starting point is 01:11:50 so that we can kind of talk about what they're talking about and some exclusive details just around the full situation. And looking at things from both sides, from Diddy's side, but also 50 Cent's side. So we'll be back with some more exclusives in the next hour. But the background and the premise of this documentary is basically, it's supposed to be a conversation about how the industry puts celebrities on a pedestal and when you do that what this means. So Alexandria Stapleton says this isn't about the story of Sean Combs or the story of Cassie or the story of any of the victims or the allegations against him or the trial.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Ultimately, this story is a mirror reflecting us as a public and what we are saying when we put our celebrities on such a high pedestal. Now, I'm going to be honest with y'all, a lot of people thought that 50 Cent was kind of like just trolling when he was talking about. doing this documentary. I thought he was too. I didn't really know because you just never know what 50 cent, but for Netflix to be the platform that he's doing it on, when I saw it, I was like, oh, wow, okay, only because Diddy has come after other places that have done documentaries. So he's currently suing, and this has been since February, for $100 million, NBC, Peacock over a documentary that they did, where his team alleges that they didn't vet a lot of the claims in a documentary. I think it's
Starting point is 01:13:03 smart. That 50 cent waited until everything happened to do the documentary, but it is just a dicey situation to be in. Didn't TMZ do one too? Didn't TMZ do a couple of documentaries? Well, see, but a lot of a lot of what normally when you do these documentaries,
Starting point is 01:13:19 the attorneys want you to reach out and vet claims and allegations and get both sides. Diddy's attorneys are claiming that like with the NBC Peacock situation, they said to them hey, these things aren't true and they still added certain things in a documentary that then certain lawsuits were dropped about and like whatever
Starting point is 01:13:35 so they went forward with their lawsuit so yeah there's a way that you can do it where you can protect yourself legally but we'll see they're supposed to have never before seen video that's what I'm interested in yeah I heard them say that in the clip he posted last night from Robin Roberts I'm wondering what is never before seen video so they actually
Starting point is 01:13:51 begin rolling it out and we'll have that in the next hour one of the videos is actually you guys remember Diddy was here in New York in that hotel waiting to turn himself in but they ended up going and just getting him and locking them up there's video from that time where he's actually going back and forth with his attorneys about this situation. Yeah, so this one's going to be a really close look
Starting point is 01:14:11 as we figure out what it was like as Diddy was heading to jail. So we'll be back with more in the next hour. So that's what it's about when he's headed to jail? It's a timeline. So I'm assuming it's going to start when the claims first started because they do mention Cassie. Don't assume. Do you know?
Starting point is 01:14:27 I'm telling you what the Netflix rundown says. So according to Netflix rundown, it's going to encompass everything, but they don't want it just to be about. about Cassie or just to be about victims or just to be about Diddy. So it seems like it's going to be the timeline of everything we've talked about up here. Things we've never
Starting point is 01:14:41 seen interviews, they say with people that are close or were close in Diddy's orbit. But the bigger conversation is how did we get here? But we'll be back with more and I'll have some exclusive details. I wonder that's going to be interesting because 50 Cent is a rapper, right? And 50 Cent is a rapper who's, I guess, considered
Starting point is 01:14:57 you consider him a gangster rapper, right? And you know him and Eminem and Dr. How do you hold a mirror up hip hop without holding the mirror up to yourself as well there's a lot of people that have been asking that question I want to see it I want to see how they did this based off what you just read us I want to see yes it would be pretty interesting
Starting point is 01:15:12 yeah I want to see what it's about like what the documentary is about is it just the rise of a hip hop person or if it's based off of the sexual assault you know seems like it's going to touch on a little bit yeah no not tomorrow we'll see next hour it goes live this today we'll see next hour now
Starting point is 01:15:30 in other news taking a completely No, I mean, the documentary comes out today, the interview drops today, but the documentary actually... Yeah, but you'll see some of the video, yeah, December 2nd. But you'll see some of the video they gave it exclusively to GMA. I know because I tried to get it for us, but they said they couldn't because they had a situation with GMA already. But yeah, so we'll see and talk about some stuff in the next hour. Now, in other news, Candy Burrs and Todd Tucker. So I know you guys reported on their divorce and, you know, all the things after 11 years.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Now, over... How do you say you know we reported when you wrote... She wrote the stuff for me. She wrote the script for me. She wanted you to deliver the game. I made sure you stayed up to date. But over the weekend, holiday weekend, Candy had posted a photo of like their Thanksgiving dinner and Todd wasn't in the photo.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I wasn't surprised to not see him in the photo because she said that it's been tough. It's been a lot. It's been a long time coming. But she came in the comments and said before anybody starts anything, he was here for Thanksgiving dinner, but he didn't stay for the photo. His daughter is like the daughter that he had prior to Candy is in the photo. there are children are in the photo or whatever
Starting point is 01:16:34 but people made it a thing now I spoke to somebody who would know who tells me that they're handling this the best way that they can he was always invited to Thanksgiving dinner was never not going to be invited and people want to make it very salacious and you know whatever because
Starting point is 01:16:48 they've been together for so long but it's not that I also saw a photo circulating of like there's like a baby that was supposed to have happened and that's why they 100% not true from what I'm told so yeah when people explain themselves to social media are they doing this because they really want to clear the air
Starting point is 01:17:04 or they're just doing this for their own engagement. Because I can't believe that people sit around and be like, I'm going to tell everybody why he didn't come to Thanksgiving at dinner. Well, he came. But she just explained herself and said why he didn't. Why? You don't know none of these people. Like, what is the point? I don't understand. I really don't understand that
Starting point is 01:17:22 life. And I'm actually shocked that Candy did that. Well, I'm not because Candy always, you know, she does her speak on it. So she's doing it for her own engagement? Or because she really cares about what people think. It may be a little bit of both. But I know in her speak on it, she always addresses what's going on with her.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Even on her Amazon Live, like she was like, I'll talk about this when I'm ready, but she gave us enough. Yeah, like she's a person that kind of interacts with her people. But just to see the picture that she had posted from Thanksgiving and then put in the captions for all y'all who want think that you, you know, I just, I wish I could see it. Because she's doing it for engagement.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Yeah, because as soon as I saw the picture, I was looking for Todd. I was like, all right, well, first getting Thanksgiving without them. But I do get why Todd, you know, reached out to you. or whoever you reached out to the sources and said that he didn't cheat and he doesn't have a baby on the way because I would want to clear that one up.
Starting point is 01:18:08 I think everybody's trying to figure out what happened. Yeah, and wrapping up. Everybody's trying to figure out what happened. We still don't know. I didn't get that answer to that question, but from what I was still doing. But don't want nobody to know nothing about your own life. You can know what you want to know.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Oh, we're going to open up the phone lines next hour. 800-585-105-1. We're going to ask about, you know, when you're dating with somebody, is it okay to pop the question? Do we go together? Do we go together? Do you mind the writer or note with the boxes to check?
Starting point is 01:18:37 Yes, no, or maybe. How are you not thinking of a note, too? We'll talk about that in a little bit, but we got Dunkin today up next. We're talking about. Before, after the hour, I'm spinning the block because I should have did this last week, but I need you all Santana to come to the front of the congregation.
Starting point is 01:18:49 We like to have a word with him. You're doing it now? Yes, I am. All right. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. We'll get to it next. We're reading all Thanksgiving break.
Starting point is 01:18:58 We'll get to it next. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. You are a donkey of the day Don't get undershay You are a donkey It's time for donkey of the day Donkey of the day does not discriminate
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Starting point is 01:19:24 December 1st goes to Jewel Santana Now I know in this fast-moving a media ecosystem, a story that's a week old like this one can be considered ancient. Okay, but damn it, if you're still eating Thanksgiving leftovers today, then shut it up. All right, your concept of old is off. But the reason I want to do this story is because we spoke about
Starting point is 01:19:42 it last week during the latest. And I kept thinking to myself, why didn't I give Jewel Santana donkey today for this? I was thinking about that over the holiday break, and it could be such a teachable moment. Okay, so let's spin the block, all right? Jules was on the No Funny podcast with Kenny K.P. Supreme
Starting point is 01:19:58 And DP, salute to those brothers. And Jewel said that financial literacy holds more importance than reading. Let's go to the No Funny podcast to hit what Jewel's had to say. We got to start teaching our kids, though, just financial wealth and literacy and all that. That's early because by the time they get the ninth grade, they should be just learning how to start businesses. These kids can't read. But they don't really need to know how to read. Wait, stop.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I say that respectfully. I'm not saying that in a way to be literate because you're not supposed to be literate, but you can... What's more going to be reading or math? Math. You can still obtain the information. You don't have to know how to read. I believe common sense is better than everything.
Starting point is 01:20:38 I'm a common sense. I'd rather have zero book smarts and common sense be able to read the room, be able to read life, be able to read people. I try to understand people, understand. And I'm saying, like, nowadays, you can listen to a book. You can read your contract, elves. You don't have to listen to that, too.
Starting point is 01:20:53 They got big of apps you can put it in and then to read it to you. Are you crazy? Now, I admit, I don't speak nigger like I used to, but I still speak it very fluently. Okay. And I understand a lot of what Joel Santana is attempting to say. And I want to tell you why I don't agree. First of all, there shouldn't be an either or to this discussion.
Starting point is 01:21:13 All right. You should be able to read and you should learn financial literacy. And, you know, if you're going to learn financial literacy, you need to know how to read. Okay, you need to know how to read to really become financial literacy. financially literate. If you rely on the apps and audio books, then you're always going to be dependent on someone else's translation. But if you know how to read, then you have direct access to the information yourself. Then you can read it. Okay. And what you can't comprehend, what you don't understand, then you can ask questions. That is the beauty of reading. Okay. But you can't do any of that. All right. You can't comprehend or understand if you don't know how to read first. All right. Kids need to learn how to read. Full stop. All right. Adults, needs to know how to read full stop reading matters so much man first of all reading scrimpins your brain okay when you're flipping pages the coding sentences uh visualizing ideas it helps to build mental discipline and build your vocabulary and build your reasoning skills
Starting point is 01:22:13 even empathy all right reading trains critical thinking which is really a lost art nowadays okay books expose you the complexity okay not just in regards to understanding the complexity of financial literacy but emotional intelligence okay more Moral judgment, pattern recognition, if you don't understand anything I'm saying right now, then there's another example of why you should read more. Okay, financial literacy is vital. There's no argument there, but there are studies that show financial education efforts produce better outcomes when coupled with general literacy. Okay, budgeting, investing, financial resilience, all improve when people have a broad literacy foundation. Also, guys, I don't know if y'all notice or not, but math and financial literacy are not the same thing.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Okay, they overlap, but they're not the same thing. Math is like the toolbox, right? You got your numbers and your equations and, you know, operations and your logic, you know, adding and the subtracting, the multiplying, dividing. Math is about how numbers work. But financial literacy is about how money works. Okay, it's about how people use money in the real world. So yes, you need math to understand financial literacy, especially in regards the percentages and interest rates and basic calculations. So I understand what y'all was trying to say in that conversation, but I need y'all to understand how,
Starting point is 01:23:28 stupid y'all look to a lot of people okay nothing worse than watching a group of black men be happy about not knowing nothing okay all right there's nothing worse than watching a group of black men be happy about not being able to read all right joel's you from hallam okay you know you know who else was from hallam malcolm x was from hallam and malcolm x used reading to realize his full potential i would say reading is the superpower that turned malcolm little into malcolm x Okay, Malcolm X once told Alex Haley, I knew right there in prison that reading had changed forever the course of my life. As I see it today, the ability to read awoke inside me, something long, dormant, craving to be mentally alive. That was Malcolm X.
Starting point is 01:24:16 You know what my daddy used to say? He used to say, if you want to hide something from a niggas, put it in a book. All right? That right there should make us intellectually curious enough to want to know. what the hell are they hiding from us all right pick up a damn book kids all right everything that joel's was saying you should learn can be learned by reading books teach history and culture and you know most importantly something that's missing from the world they teach you context all right the world is out of context because people don't even understand they don't even
Starting point is 01:24:45 understand what context is nowadays and you can do audiobooks okay you can do audio books i recommend you do both all right but i'm telling you if you want to work out your brain if you want to you know do some exercise on your brain, read. Okay. And it's more important now than ever that we read because according to the National Literacy Institute, not only a 21% of American adults illiterate, but also 130 million adults are now unable to read a simple story
Starting point is 01:25:13 to their children. You can't even give your kids cat in a hat, okay? You don't know how to read to your kids, man. That's something money can't buy. Okay, reading to your kids before bedtime, you can't put a dollar amount on that but the way this world is going you're going to have kids in first grade reading the daddy before he goes to bed if the father's even in the house okay listen i'm all for teaching our people how to handle money okay i'm all for teaching our people how to invest and build businesses but to think that reading is secondary it's like saying the foundation don't matter as long as you got nice windows okay i promise you one of the fastest ways to level up is reading okay that's how you learn that'll teach you how to question things that'll teach you how to think that's what literacy teaches you how to do read learn question think so kids okay invest in your mind
Starting point is 01:26:07 right invest in your mind just like you want to invest in your pockets not because you're trying to get rich but so you can stay sharp and not sound illiterate on somebody's podcast please give you L Santana the biggest he huh okay wanted to put that on record. Mm-hmm. Okay. That way. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:30 What? It's sad. It is. It's sad. Yeah. But you, just as, just aside, but you know where the frustration comes from, right? Well. It comes from him being in the industry early, making all this money, and then losing a lot of it.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Yeah. And being damn there broke and saying, I wish I knew generational wealth and financial literacy to figure out what to do with that money. Because him, he's probably in a situation who was like, I wish I knew what to do with the money more than anything else. but it's also You're still isn't even hard to read Yeah, it's also with the reading
Starting point is 01:26:59 And you're a rapper The more you read The better you get is an MC Yeah Like you're in the world economy But that comes from I'm sure Personal the fact that he had a whole lot And had all this money
Starting point is 01:27:09 And money coming in And he didn't know what to do with the finance What to do with the money How to invest And he lost it all And that's what that frustration comes From him saying I wish I went to class
Starting point is 01:27:17 And did you know Financial literacy opposed to But the moral of the story It's not an either or No it's not It's all encompassing. It's all part of education. It's all part of an education that you should try to acquire on this planet while you're here.
Starting point is 01:27:31 All of it. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today, Shalemite. Now, can we bring Lauren back in? Can we have a real conversation? 800-585-105-1. It's the Jewel's instrumental, y'all. You're crazy.
Starting point is 01:27:48 800-585-105-1. Now, over the weekend, she went out of the country for her brinket-o-one. And during this, I guess, vacation, her babe put on a, I guess it was like a note on the window that said, will you go out with me? So the question is, 800-581-105-1. Is it necessary to ask the question, will you go out with me? First of all. Do you have to ask whether I'll go out with you? As an uncle, I was embarrassed.
Starting point is 01:28:13 And the reason I was embarrassed. For Lorna for him. Yes, because you already out the country. So you already went out the country with the guy. So clearly all have established something. Right. So you post a picture and your close friends and on the window. though it says, will you be my girlfriend?
Starting point is 01:28:26 I thought it was a proposal. I thought it was going to be my girlfriend. When I seen all the roses and everything, I said, oh, oh, oh, oh. He wanted to. I said, who's going to walk lowering down the aisle? I thought you was getting proposed to. But, see, I know how to read. So when I read it, I was like, will you be my girlfriend?
Starting point is 01:28:46 Yes, I thought it was really, really cute. Why do you hate it so bad? I thought it was cute. And then that only sets him up for the proposal. What the hell are we going to do? for that if he had to take you to know though like we're not 16 anymore We went out the country together
Starting point is 01:28:59 So at that point Did Chris have to ask you do we go out or do y'all just was like See? Exactly exactly we got to wrap He didn't ask you No I needed to know for sure Let's discuss it's the breakfast club
Starting point is 01:29:09 Good morning Morning everybody is DJ NV Just hilarious Shalameen the guy We are the breakfast club Now if you just joining us We're taking your calls 800 58515151 Now over the weekend our very own Lauren was on a vacation
Starting point is 01:29:25 for her birthday and you know she posted everything so cool it was so nice everything was so dope then all of a sudden we see this room with roses and flowers and then on the window it says will you go out with me
Starting point is 01:29:38 will you be my girl will you be my girl so we're asking 800585 1051 I think it's crazy that y'all think it's crazy that I wanted to know you go out with somebody is it necessary to ask the question will you go out with me that is what it is I guess that's the I think it's cute. I think and yes
Starting point is 01:29:54 to ask you a question before we went to break yeah Chris did ask me to be his girlfriend um and he just straight asked me over dinner and he ain't take me out you know what I'm saying? Whatever he didn't take me to Mexico you just was together you know we did not He never got to beat
Starting point is 01:30:11 Miamo Shut up no but I thought it was very very cute I think he just wanted to court her like the right way I mean because I guess it's been unspoken y'all were dating for a while It's been a thing, but I did make a big deal because I'm like, it's a thing, but I felt like, the last time I was in a relationship, that relationship started, I was like 19, 20. So I've been asking, even here, I'm like, how do you have that conversation as an adult?
Starting point is 01:30:36 Like, what is it? Like, I didn't remember what it was like. So when we just, like, we linked and then we never, like, we've been together since. So it kind of like just turned into a thing. And I was like, let's have the conversation. So we had the conversation. Then I was like, I feel like that was supposed to be cuter. Like, it was supposed to be a thing.
Starting point is 01:30:50 And he was like, that makes no sense. It's like if we together and we're doing this and we've made it exclusive and we whatever, why does all that matter? And then when I walked, it was kind of funny because when I walked in, I was like, you get on my nerves because I made it such a thing. And he's like, if we've talked about it, why is it a thing? And I'm like, I want all the bells and whistles all the time. And so we delivered and that's where the trips to the Bahamas. So why is it stupid? And the relationship proposal came from.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Ben, my head. Go ahead. Well, now, as a very judgmental unc, I try to mind my business and talk behind your back. And you thought I put you in my clothes. I would never. But since you bring it to the radio, let's discuss. Okay. I'm just saying you've been telling us that you had a man for a while.
Starting point is 01:31:29 I personally know you was too niggalo, okay? But you've been like, no, stop saying that. I got one boyfriend. That's what you've been telling you. Yeah, stop saying that. I got one boyfriend. I got one boyfriend. My man, my man, my man.
Starting point is 01:31:38 But to me, if that was your man and y'all go out to country and he finally asked you to be his girlfriend, I'm like, oh, so you was the only person acknowledging that you was in a relationship up until that point. Oh, damn. That's why I'm taking it. No. No, you're taking it that way because you like a plot twist. We all know how the girls get down.
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Starting point is 01:36:39 Have to be in context. All I saw was a video, a picture, and the picture said on the glass, will you be my girlfriend? But I sit with you here every day and I tell you, that's my boyfriend. I tell you what's going on the way. We know this. We do Loolemon. Damn. We know this. But so when I see it... You think I'm a delusional girl? I'm just going off what I saw.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Envi, you think I'm a delusional girl? When you saw it, what did you think? I thought it was funny. I laughed. And we laughed too. You didn't think like, damn, he just asking her to be... See, but this is the thing. But now when you were crazy...
Starting point is 01:37:08 No, we laughed too because it's like... When I first saw it, I was like, damn, they just asked. They just get into this now. But when you break it down, it's cute. It's the fact you had the conversation. Right. It was something that was bubbling in a relationship. And he was like, I'm just going to ask officially.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Why is because Lauren done the most? So I didn't know the backstory. And that was certified. All right, you didn't ask either. But this is what you don't understand? You're posting this to the world. I don't care. The whole world is like,
Starting point is 01:37:34 damn, they're out the country and he just asking her to be a girl for the drugging on the radio for a whole year. Talking about she got a man. You know what? You know what people were asking me? Everybody was like, so did you say yes? You didn't, you left us with a cliffhanger. And I was like, I didn't.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Everybody was asking. Why would you on that shipper pole? That's what the chat is asking. But let's go to the phone back. She was on a stripper pole. Oh, you see the shit pole? Nice. That was a video just missed.
Starting point is 01:37:55 She got all the other videos. She missed that one. He was like, God damn it. I spoke too soon. I shouldn't ask to be my girlfriend. Hello, who is this? Hello, who's this? Eddie.
Starting point is 01:38:06 Hello, this Christian from Miami. Bauer County can do more specific. Talk to us, brother. What's your thoughts? Foolish, man. I got like three girlfriends. I don't know. I feel like some high school stuff to ask her,
Starting point is 01:38:19 especially if you're taking her out of town. Not the town. Not the town. That's my point. And on top of it, I feel like females, they really just like it more so just for the post more than anything. They want to make that IG post. They want to feel special, you know, go back to their friends. That's just my opinion.
Starting point is 01:38:36 I got three girlfriends. I never asked one to be my girlfriend. By the way, if you're posting that on the gram, you are child this year. You need to grow. Don't nobody care about your little go-together and big 30s plus years. If I wanted to do it for the gram, there was so much more I could have posted. I kept a lot between us. If you get proposed, yes.
Starting point is 01:38:53 You know what I'm saying? If you get proposed to yes. Yeah, my proposal will be a thing. It'll be a whole unveiling. It'll be exclusive somewhere, potentially like essence, vogue, whatever. We'll figure it out. But it was cute and I wanted to share it. I just think it's crazy to go out the country with somebody that's already been sweating on you
Starting point is 01:39:08 and have them ask you just to be a girlfriend. That has been my man. What's wrong with me? I think it's cute. I get it now. Yeah, because what's wrong with that. Sim actually was with me when we first started having a conversation. First of all, stop taking advice from single women.
Starting point is 01:39:20 No, no, no, no. No, she actually told me I was doing a bit too much. Someone's like, look, this man has already been dedicated to you. Y'all, I've talked about what y'all need to talk about. The bells and whistles, why does that, like, matter to you? And I was like, I just think it's true. You didn't have that young love, so you want that love now. Wait, I did.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Young love. No, no, you said you were in, you haven't been in a relationship with you was 19. Yeah, but I was young. So what do you mean? And so now you're an adult. Oh, you mean like a real thing. relationship as an adult and you wanted to be formally asked
Starting point is 01:39:52 you got to formally ask me everything I also wanted just even when we had the conversation I was like I just wanted no blurred lines because I was a little bit like are we are we not like what's happening so you didn't know this whole year this whole year no my man my man my man
Starting point is 01:40:08 wasn't when I told you I needed to have a conversation because I was confused that was a long time ago before that trip it was a long time before the trip and just until this vacation you finally got clarity? No. You out here letting them sweat on you? No. That sounds crazy because you've been screaming out. And if you just... You all are making
Starting point is 01:40:24 this into... We're making this too? Y'all are making this a thing. That confusion was like seven months ago. So you been confused for seven months? No, stupid. And when did you get clarity? I've been at clarity. This was just a little cherry on top. Which I just did this for the gram. I shouldn't ever posted it. 585.105.
Starting point is 01:40:40 I was drunk and happy. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Everybody is DJ NV. Just hilarious. Shalameen the guy. We are the breakfast club. If you just joining us, Lauren La Rosa was on her little vacation and she posted a video and in the hotel room there was roses
Starting point is 01:40:55 and flowers and then written on the window said, will you be my girlfriend? Will you be my girlfriend? She already out the country. I've been claiming this man for a whole year. But now she said she knows. And the guy just made it official. I been new. I've been at least now
Starting point is 01:41:12 it's official. No, it's been official. So what's the difference now? Like, is it a Is it a phone-up relationship, but like you can say, hey, bad, here's my phone, and you can say, I'm taking your phone. No, the difference is now. Been there. Been there.
Starting point is 01:41:24 No. Oh, the internet. That's the difference. And I'm not going to call you two niggas low no more, because now I understand why you were still hanging on the two guys. Very good. You wait for the question. You get on my nerves, I'm not true.
Starting point is 01:41:35 You just, that's basically what you're talking about. No, no. It had nothing to do with the other people. You had to have a backup plan. And I remember you saying something like that a long time ago. You was like, whoever steps up. I remember you saying something like that. Oh, I remember you saying.
Starting point is 01:41:47 No, I said who, yeah, I mean, he wasn't even, no. You tell her yourself. No, because we had that right. That was way before he was even in the picture. That was a way. Oh, my God. You're down to you're going to love. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:42:03 That was in February, early February, and I was joking. No, it was around Balatized days. Yes, it was. And I remember you said, whoever step up, I remember you said that. You had your own episode of Love Island going on. Down. Low Island. Damn.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Damn. You're talking about to turn out of the I, though. You're doing it. You're doing on yourself. Hello, who's this? Oh, my guys. Hey, y'all. This is Sidney.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Hey, what's up? Hey, y'all. So, first of all, Charlemagne and Envi, y'all haters. Thank you. Thank you. Because it's nothing wrong with her boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Because it's nothing wrong with her boyfriend asking her in the cutest way to be his girlfriend. And in this climate of dating, we actually need to establish if we're going to be together, if we're a boyfriend, a girlfriend, because if not, it leaves room for air. Because if they just acting like they're together and they're not, that's when people start, you know, acting funny,
Starting point is 01:42:56 like having other people on the side. And then it's like, I mean, we didn't say that we were together. So what's wrong with him establishing that they're together? I'm going to let you know. Uncle is a hater. I'm a big hater. Okay, you know what I'm saying? Because I want to make sure that my people are being represented properly at all times.
Starting point is 01:43:10 She's been out here claiming this man for a whole damn near year. And he's just getting around the act. asking her to be his girlfriend? I mean, they could have did it in private, and y'all just didn't know about. And that's exactly what I just told him. That is not what you just told you. That is. I said we had a conversation of a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:43:26 The confusion was a long time ago was clear. No, you were confused. You just told us that you were the one that was confused, and you just told us that you was waiting on one of these men to properly step up. That's what dating is about. You hold on the one and wait for the other one and then you go to the other one. Y'all ain't never been sitting here. I'm not the minute here.
Starting point is 01:43:45 What do you want to make it? It's a relationship It's called monkey bar You hold on a word of town What do you want Your daughter That are single And
Starting point is 01:43:51 Look at that monkey Just swinging from one monkey To the next That's the monkey Me or him No you hold on to the boss It's added Anyway, guys
Starting point is 01:44:00 Don't even go into it You suppose a date And figure things out And then lock in What makes the most sense And what it's like You know What your passion
Starting point is 01:44:08 And your love is No Don't debt me up about nothing Come on Come on That's what I'm talking about. No It's never been too
Starting point is 01:44:15 nothing. You just admitted to it. This was before him. Could you stop? Could you stop? I'm not sure. So what's the moral of your story? The moral of the story is there's nothing wrong with clarity, period. There you go. At all. I want to be clear about everything in my life in this season. Even if it's eight months in, I get it. I don't care if you got it.
Starting point is 01:44:31 I don't care if you got asked me or tell me three, four, five thousand times. If you want to tell me and show your love for me, keep doing it. I love that. Love to see. I love to be a part of it. I had a great birthday and I got great gifts. And I'm going to Ghana for the years. With my man, it was my birthday gift For New Year's Eve, for Duddy December Okay, so maybe he'll propose. Don't put that pressure on that.
Starting point is 01:44:51 It's not too early for that. If he proposed, I would say yes. Oh, okay. You would say yes? That's 100%. But he knows I want my proposal. I want my grandmother and everybody be there. My grandmother is flying to Ghana, so that happened.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Nice. He can do it twice. He can do it in front of the family. See, twice if I would have said do it twice, you'd be like, what? He got to propose twice. You didn't believe it. What?
Starting point is 01:45:13 Can I say something respectfully? No. No. Why would you want to propose to somebody in Delaware? Like, seriously. You know what I'm saying? Why are you putting that on that? It could be in New York. If you can get in a car and go anywhere, my grandmother's not getting on a plane or boat. Okay, okay, but
Starting point is 01:45:26 goddamn. But that's what I said. Do a choice. That is a little crazy to get down on your knee in the middle of Delaware. You know what's in Baltimore? He can't even get down. He got to really stay down if he can get down. I appreciate the jokes about Baltimore, but we have a bigger you can sit. You can sit Delaware inside.
Starting point is 01:45:43 of the hood and you got good stuff we got a waterfront too y'all got a waterfront now ball harbor we got waterfront yeah okay we got other things more than what's the thing we used to book when you a kid like the veterans in like the end the little in thing where you could rent them out you could do that and it'd be dope okay I ain't know you had a waterfront so they got waterfront yeah it's with nice restaurants and beaches we do okay there's actually a gay beach I bet you know oh I got gay beach and so I'm not I'm just being a clucid You know the beaches. That is not homophobic. I, you know, I support you.
Starting point is 01:46:17 All right. All right. We got the latest with Lauren coming up. We do got the latest. So we are going to go back 50 cents. So he is telling all about his new documentary. He sat down with Good Morning America and Robin Roberts. And we're going to get into it. Well, let's get to it now. Lauren becoming a free fat. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
Starting point is 01:46:35 She gets to detail. I'm a home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. She'd be having the latest on this. latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest. On the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Talk to me. All right, so 50 Cent in Alexandria, who is working with him on this documentary, sat down with Robert Roberts and Good Morning America to talk about Sean Combs, the Reckoning, which is a new documentary that he is bringing to Netflix about Diddy and everything that has been happening over this last year or so. And it airs tonight at midnight, so December 2nd, it's live on Netflix. It's a four-part series. Now, they talk about a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:47:15 So first, you get to see some of the footage that 50 cent was able to obtain that was never before seen. And these are the days leading up until when Diddy was arrested. Let's take a listen to days leading up to arrest. Never before seen footage of Sean Diddy Combs in the days leading up to his arrest in New York last September. You want to put this stuff in my fan back in? The exclusive video obtained by Netflix shows Combs debating with his. lawyers about strategy. Listen to me. I'm going to get off the phone right now, and I am going to let you professionals look at the situation and come back to me with a solution. No matter what,
Starting point is 01:47:54 no matter what nobody said. Let's just here and there, y'all are not working together the right way. We're losing. Was anything that surprised you when you were watching? It was surprising that he actually filmed it. It was very interesting to watch a man who's known for his brand presence. he has a really amazing knack for marketing and all of that and how he was sort of taking that into account and how he was coming off to the public
Starting point is 01:48:18 geez yeah so that's all we get to see now but in the actual documentary you get to go more into those days with him now here is the crazy part about all this so it's all crazy because if he was if he filmed that how to know we hear it so did he had a video
Starting point is 01:48:34 person a photographer that was always with him these couple days that video person sent someone and didn't come on his own. Diddy has a legal agreement from what I'm being told by his team. He had a legal agreement with that videographer, photographer. They're not for sure if it covers this person that would have sold or whatever, however 50 to entertain this footage. There was also a disagreement between Diddy and this person who shot this footage. This guy was never paid and they didn't find that out, his attorneys until this documentary dropped. So all of that stuff, edited, unedited, that was shot in that time. They are, it's, I mean, if they
Starting point is 01:49:08 bought it and they own it the right way and Diddy's team is still checking that out it's there to be used so we are about to see some things that I'm sure if he was in control of we might not have seen now they also get into the fact that people are saying 50 cents you're trying to take Diddy or add on to
Starting point is 01:49:24 what Diddy is going through because it's personal let's take a listen How do you respond to people who say that that it's more about the disdain that you have for Sean Combs than it is for giving the victims a platform what they consider a pre-existing beef right for 20 years is me being uncomfortable with him suggesting that he takes me shopping or I looked at it like he
Starting point is 01:49:44 was like it was like a tester like maybe you'll come play with me type of thing and it's not personal I think it's important to also let people know that this the show is not completely the perspectives of people that did not like Sean we weren't trying to just get the highlights the salacious details you know that the real goal was to storytell and if you not everyone needed to have an allegation to be a part of this project Was that the whole context of what 50 said? Did you edit something? I need to hear the whole context.
Starting point is 01:50:12 That's crazy. But y'all know 50 cents are so, you know, he's being a little humorous at the same time. I mean, I don't, we don't know that. And for all we know, Diddy really made him feel uncomfortable when Diddy said he wanted to take him shopping. And by way, yeah, 50, I've been talking about that for years. Diddy was up here and Diddy was like he wanted to take 50 shopping, man. 50 stupid to it. That's one of the people you don't play with.
Starting point is 01:50:33 If you got problems with him, you got problems with him for life. Now, question, who else is on the documentary? So, listen, they have. jurors that are part of it, Aubrey O'Day who was a former member of Danny DeCain and making the band. Kirk Burroughs who was co-founder of Bad Boy. What was a guy who rubbed the semen on his nipples?
Starting point is 01:50:50 I don't know that men's, that squirt's name. Oh, my God. It wasn't a punisher? That wasn't a punisher? No, it was a different one. That was the finisher. Hey, yo. D1, Eric Sermon, Roxanne Johnson. Eric Sermon.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Eric Sermon. Yeah. The EPMD? rapper and former member of EPMD. Roxanne Johnson. who was ex-wife of bad boy artist Craig Mack Mark Curry who's a former bad boy artist Kalina Harper which I think is also insane because you guys know she's a former member of
Starting point is 01:51:19 dirty money and this is the so it was her and it was Dawn remember people were alleging that Diddy like might have paid her off or something because he was there was contact between him and her and she was saying that what Dawn was saying wasn't true Brooklyn Baps who was on making the band Clayton Howard
Starting point is 01:51:37 Capricorn Clark I'm like Capricorn Clark who's a former assistant and creative director of Bad Boy She had some good testimony That was the one that was in the car
Starting point is 01:51:47 When they Allegedly blew up his car Yeah But I'm like yo How did he get her in this I don't know Yeah there's about to be And the jurors
Starting point is 01:51:57 Why do you think she wouldn't do a duck She testified Yeah against them I mean I I don't know But the jurors I think Anna, I think she wants to write a book. Yeah, she does.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Why wouldn't she do a doc? I just thought maybe she, no, I don't know. Listen, she's gone through her own experiences. It is. Like, I cannot believe. The jurors, too, even like the people who like. They talk to the jurors as well. Yeah, they talk to a, it just says jurors with an ass.
Starting point is 01:52:22 I don't know, like, who, whatever. Well, we get to watch tomorrow. Tonight at midnight. Tonight at midnight. Yeah, we're staying up for that. Now, let's take a listen. I'm staying up for this one. I'm going to stay up for it too.
Starting point is 01:52:33 I'm saying. I'm going to watch this one. So a lot of people have been talking about. you know whether this turns another bad light onto hip-hop and hip-hop being attacked and like why 50 cent wants to be the person that adds into this let's take a list in 50 talk about that do you think that hip-hop culture was on trial as much as Sean Combs was not oh look if I didn't say anything you would have interpreted as hip-hop is fine with his behaviors there's no one else being
Starting point is 01:52:56 vocal so you would look at it and just say because that mind your business or let me not say nothing about nothing or those things it would a lot the entire culture to register as if they're for that behavior. If Sean Combs watches this, what do you think he's going to feel? Like, wow, this is amazing. I think he's going to say this is the best documentary I've seen in a long time. Because you'll see people saying that. He might feel a different way about pieces and bits of it, but he knows the truth.
Starting point is 01:53:22 I think he'll see the truth in it. Yo, this has nothing to do with hip-hop, and I hate when they do that. Like, when Harvey Weinstein is on trial, nobody says, what is this Hollywood on trial? When Abercrombie and Fitzgoy is on trial, nobody says it's the clothing industry on trial. Like, no, it has nothing to do with hip-hop. This was one man's choices. That's it.
Starting point is 01:53:40 This is about Diddy and nothing else. This thing I'm nothing to do with no damn hip-hop. I hate when they do that. I'm sure you're going to see a bunch of lawsuits because if that guy worked for Diddy and he sold that footage to somebody else, he had to be under contract, right? There had to be stipulations because there's no way Diddy's going to have people around him that he does not own that footage. I can't see that. That was the first question I asked.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Why did you make a mistake? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. And then how the hell are you going to let them just leave with the footage? That footage comes with me. That SD call come with me. So I don't have any confirmations of any legal action as of yet.
Starting point is 01:54:10 But the statement that I received from Diddy's team says that we have confirmed that Netflix used footage that was never authorized for release, including private moments. The footage was created for an entirely different purpose under an agreement that was never completed. So for background information, what I was told was that Diddy's team says
Starting point is 01:54:26 that there was supposed to have been a conversation between Netflix and Diddy. And he was recording footage Diddy to do his own documentary. But once he was told he was not going to have full creative control, he backed out of the situation with Netflix and they believe that this is some of the footage that was being used for that. But from what I was told, there is a contract with the original
Starting point is 01:54:43 photographer, videographer, but they don't know if it covers this guy yet. So they're still trying to sort that out to see if there's any legal steps that they can take. And then I wonder if legal steps are taking, do they go after the videographer? Because he's the one that allegedly sold it, right? So they would have to go after him because they made the deal with him,
Starting point is 01:55:00 correct? Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. The doctor's already coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to see it. Even if it's pulled down, you're going to watch it. Everybody going to watch it tomorrow. They're going to record it. And plus it's Netflix, right? Netflix ain't even going to put that out
Starting point is 01:55:13 unless they've already crossed all the T's Dotted their T's. Dotted the T's. Huh? I said, crossed their T's and dot the I. You said, Dotted the T's. I said, cross the T's. Crossed no eyes. I said, cross the T's and Dada die.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Who the hell crossed out? You always try to throw shots this morning. What? What? What? What? What? What?
Starting point is 01:55:34 I'm just sick of this, Laura. I got your back. No legal action can happen from it, though, right? That's it. Well, I don't know because they don't know yet what were the terms and not the terms or all that, but they did tell me that their legal, their legal team is formally notifying Netflix of the fact that they feel like that this was unauthorized use of, like, you know, all the things that they just said.
Starting point is 01:55:53 Yeah, like Charlotte says too late. Yeah, but I see putting this out unless they have done all their due diligence. But y'all know he got this appeal coming up. So I don't know character-wise how this might help because it. a judge and anybody like that was my point yeah and I asked that and they say listen not legally but judges are human and maybe they get some emotional spirit out of this and render a decision based on some of that which and they just need to go peel some potatoes okay doll he doesn't appeal how many times like it's like do just do the time like it's like he works at the chapel sir he does books
Starting point is 01:56:23 not food oh whatever you know what I'm just saying go do the time like this is it is it is it got two years right yeah yeah all right well that is the latest with Lauren now we We come back. We got the mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on it. Everybody is D.J.N.V. J. Salarish. Y'allamee McGa. We are the breakfast club. Let me salute all my Pops. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Pops. Big O.G. Dominican. He's not Dominican. He's no one. He's no one. He's no one. He's no one. He's no one. He's no one. He's no one. You just went there. Dominica. It's totally two different things. Dominica. I'm not arguing with you about you. Oh, my goodness. Belize Navi died. I'm not arguing with you about you.
Starting point is 01:57:01 I'm going to give me a number. Let me say you give you some of the 90s words that you forgot about. That's why I was he go. call you. And I also salute to American Dream. I brought my daughter there this weekend for her birthday. You know, American Dream is not just a mall in Jersey. They got everything. Amusement rides, games, Lego Land. Happy related birthday, baby, Peyton. We had a great time. So, salute to everybody that I've seen at the American Dream. My daughter's having a good time. She's home today, though, but
Starting point is 01:57:29 the whole family's sick. I think I gave everything. Oh, damn. Everybody said. Everybody had a sore throat last night. That's me. She started that. Yeah, so if I get it again, I can give it to y'all. Nah, I won't be here. If I got it, you got it. Yeah, but they got sick. Now, you out in Connecticut this weekend?
Starting point is 01:57:43 Yes, I am. I'm in Hartford at the Funny Bone Comedy Club. We got two shows this Friday and two shows this Saturday. So are we on in Hartford, Connecticut? Do y'all know? Or no? We're on in Connecticut. Well, if y'all hear my voice, y'all get your tickets, Jocelarance Official.com.
Starting point is 01:57:57 I will be doing meet and greet at the late show on Friday and a late show on Saturday. And Baltimore City, be prepared. December 13th, we got two shows, two free shows at the Nevermore Hall, which already sold out. Sold out in like seven minutes, but it's free. So I expected that your admission is a toy, a brand new toy. Do not bring no old-ass toys up in there for no kids, right? I need y'all to bring brand new toys. Everybody got to have a toy. Also, because the tickets was free, and if it's a group of y'all that come is four, I need four toys. Don't try to, don't think one toy you're going to get a group in. All right? I see you, Baltimore, December 13th at the Nevermore Hall for two free shows.
Starting point is 01:58:38 There you go. All right. And, yeah, we're on in Hartford because they can hear us and also New Haven, Connecticut. Got you. Okay, good. Solomon, you got a positive note? Yes, the positive note is simply this. It is December 1st.
Starting point is 01:58:48 So we are officially in the Christmas season, man. And I want you all to know that Christmas isn't a season. It's a feeling. And the best way to spread holiday cheer is to be the joy you wish to see in the world. So let's remember that all Christmas. season long. Okay? Have a great day. Breakfast club, bitches! You're not finished or y'all done?
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