The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Ryan Coogler & Peter Nicks Interview, Are Married Men More Desirable? Looney Cohosts and more!

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

Today we are joined by Ryan Coogler and Peter Nicks to discuss reimagining The National Anthem, American Roots, Symbolism and more.  We are also joined by our celebrity cohost Looney.  Finally, we o...pen up the phone lines to ask women the question, “Are married men more desirable?”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, USA! Looney. Now you might know Looney from the host of It's Up There podcast. That's right. He's interviewed people like Lil Baby. Who else you had on there, Looney? I've spoke with Moneybagg. I've spoke with Dr. Umar Rich on me, Quan. Yeah, man. Bunch of names, man. Well, welcome, brother. How you feeling? I'm good, man. How you doing? Some early. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Beautiful thing. Looney was here before
Starting point is 00:00:39 both of us, brother. Oh, listen. Looney is a hustler. A hustler's hustler. Yeah, he was there preparing and ready to rock and roll. A hustler's hustler. For sure. Oh, listen, Looney is a hustler. Yeah, he was there preparing and ready to rock and roll. A hustler's hustler, for sure. Now, shout out to everybody again that's heading out to Houston for my car show. That's what I've been doing
Starting point is 00:00:51 the last couple of days. I got to get all the cars prepped and ready for loadout because the cars are heading to Houston. So for Father's Day weekend, if you guys are out and about, join me in Houston. Of course, kids five and under are free.
Starting point is 00:01:02 We got cars from everybody in Houston. 50 Cent gave me his car. Shout out to 50, spoke to him yesterday. Shout out to Young Dolph's family and PRE. They gave me his car to take on the car show, which I think is always special. People get to see his fleet. So that's pretty dope. That's right. And we got some special
Starting point is 00:01:17 guests joining us today. We got Peter Nix and Ryan Kugler. Ryan Kugler, man. They have a new documentary on Hulu called Anthem that comes out June 28th so they'll be here to discuss that with us yes excited about that
Starting point is 00:01:30 yes and then we got a lot to talk about a lot to discuss what is up with this OG beef I'm seeing man you walked in here this morning
Starting point is 00:01:36 I walked in here this morning and everyone was hype it was like yo you seen what's happening with Anita Baker and Babyface I know we about to be old
Starting point is 00:01:43 I'm going to be 45 in a couple of weeks and that sounded crazy it did sound crazy but Anita Baker and Babyface? I know we about to be old. I'm going to be 45 in a couple of weeks, and that sounded crazy. It did sound crazy, but Anita Baker's going in. You saw what happened with Anita Baker and Babyface? Anita Baker got the chopper, and she just sprayed Anita Baker. I don't know who pissed Anita Baker off. She's going crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:57 She's calling Babyface fans the crazies, and she's going at them crazy. Well, I need to know what happened. It's funny. She said Babyface don't like Beyonce. That's just crazy. She's, man, she's, like I said, she got the shopper. I don't like fights like that.
Starting point is 00:02:10 That's not a real fight, though. I know what I'm saying, but if me and you got an issue, let's keep it between us. Don't start bringing other people in. You don't even like Beyonce. What the hell Beyonce got to do with this? Now you know the B, especially on the internet, because the B-Hive going to jump on your ass. Absolutely. Well, we got to talk about that in front page news.
Starting point is 00:02:23 We got a lot more to discuss. Of course, when we come back, Teslin Figaro will be joining us. I don't know if you guys seen the game last night. Denver Nuggets and Miami Heat will tell you about that as well. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:34 It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got our guest co-host Looney joining us. He's from the It's Up There podcast. And let's get in some front page news. Good morning, Teslin. Good morning, Tesson. Good morning, DJ Envy Looney. Thank you for being here with us in Charlemagne, God.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Peace, peace, Tess. Let's jump right into it. Last night, the Denver Nuggets defeated the Miami Heat 94-89. Did you guys watch the game? I went to sleep beginning of the third quarter. I wanted to stay up to watch Denver win their first chip, but I was knocked out, man. Yeah, what about you, Looney?
Starting point is 00:03:07 Me, I can't stay up for games no more. I'm getting old. Yeah, pass right out? Yeah, I go down. If it ain't somebody that I'm really in tune with, I go right down. Yeah, and let's be real. The Nuggets are great.
Starting point is 00:03:17 We got some audio from Luka. From Joker, yeah. Okay. Nikola, they didn't go away. You had to take it. What was the difference down the stretch? We knew it. They are a great team. They are a great, great team. Intelligent team. Amazing team that I respect a lot. It was an amazing effort by the team. It was an ugly game. We couldn't make shots, but in the end we figured out how to defend.
Starting point is 00:03:42 They scored 80-something or 90 90 points so that's that's why he won the game and now you are an nba champion nicola how does that feel it's good it's good the job is done we can go home now the nuggets are great man they've been building towards that for a long time and uh they're gonna be around for for years to come because they got a young call but you can you can only you know play who's in front of you but this is by far one of the easiest roles to a championship ever. Yeah, and I love the fact that he was picked number 44. Number 41.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Number 41. He was the 41st pick, which showed that he had to work for it. Even at the All-Star game, when they would go back and forth and they'd pick plays, he was the last person LeBron picked. So the fact that he's been grinding it out and working hard is definitely dope. And they only lost four games in the postseason. And the reason I say this is the easiest road to a championship ever, they beat a number eight team,
Starting point is 00:04:28 a number four team, a number seven team, and a number eight seed in the finals. And it showed. They had no competition. Let's talk about Donald Trump. He's going to be in the Miami court today. They said he wasn't handcuffed yesterday either, right? They don't handcuff former presidents?
Starting point is 00:04:44 I guess they don't, but he is checking in with the feds today uh former president donald trump is expected to appear in a miami courthouse following last week's unsealing of a federal indictment accusing him of mishandling classified documents now trump is facing 37 federal charges federal prosecutors say trump illegally stored dozens of highly sensitive documents everywhere from bathrooms to ballrooms at his florida resort refusing to return them to the fbi and national archives his hearing is scheduled today at 3 p.m eastern but before he can appear in court he will surrender for pre-trial services including booking and processing he is expected to enter a plea of not guilty wow how many trump protests is expected to show up today okay yeah similar to manhattan court appearance but very different than manhattan
Starting point is 00:05:31 because obviously florida uh is a trump state uh so it's going to be a little bit the energy is definitely going to be different uh he's asking supporters to mobilize to protest wow the chief police said that they are prepared to handle a crowd anywhere from 5,000 to 50,000. Trump said, quote, we need strength at this point. Everyone is afraid to do anything. They're afraid to talk. They have to go out and protest peacefully. But Carrie Lake, the former Arizona Republican nominee
Starting point is 00:06:00 for governor has a different message. Let's take a listen. I have a message tonight for Merrick Garland and Jack Smith and Joe Biden and the guys back there in the fake news media. You should listen up as well. This one's for you. If you want to get to President Trump, you're going to have to go through me and you're going to have to go through 75 million Americans just like me. And I'm going to tell you, most of us are card-carrying members of the nra that's not a threat that's a public service announcement that's a promise that's
Starting point is 00:06:34 a promise i tell you man today is a great test on whether or not maga really is still about that life because i don't feel like they got that fight in them anymore we don't want any of that of course but i'm starting to feel like what we we saw on January 6th might have been an exception and not a rule. I didn't expect them to wild out in New York. They wasn't going to do that in New York. But if they don't wild out in Florida, MAGA may not be as tough as we think they are. See, New York, you can't carry a firearm. It's against the law to carry a firearm.
Starting point is 00:07:00 You automatically get three years. In Florida, you can legally carry a firearm. And they're saying, I need you to come with strength yeah but i think they saw a lot of those protesters get locked up on january 6th and they like you know what and so you don't think there's no crash outs i don't think it's gonna be no crash outs today man i don't you don't think so but they're definitely gonna be there they may not crash out but they they definitely are going to be there they have already said you know they've already had some back and forth with some anti-Trump supporters, protesters on yesterday. But I don't know if they're going to run up on the courthouse.
Starting point is 00:07:31 But Miami's preparing very differently, which is my concern, than New York. They haven't really put any barricades in front of the courthouse to prevent it being stormed. They've just pretty much put light yellow tape. They have not. Oh, they need to have the same barricade they put out when us black people go down there
Starting point is 00:07:47 for South Beach in front of that courthouse I think the talk is going to be tougher than the actions because listen he got charges brought up against him
Starting point is 00:07:55 in New York the indictment has happened we haven't seen nobody wilding out that's a good point these past few weeks and days we ain't seen nobody
Starting point is 00:08:02 really cutting up but New York law is different I'm just talking about around the country, period. That's true. We're going to see those senior citizens might roll up on it. What's the summary of the charges, Ted? Yeah, so we can't unpack them all, but I did want to give people a summary just quickly.
Starting point is 00:08:19 37 federal charges. Here's a quick recap of it. Willful retention of national defense information. Conspiracy to obstruct justice. With withholding a document or a record uh corruptly concealing a document or a record concealing a document in a federal investigation scheme to conceal and false statements and representation and each one of those charges carries a maximum fine of 250 000 dollars and a maximum prison sentence from five to 20 years. So that's time,
Starting point is 00:08:47 time. Yeah. I mean, the, the, the nuclear code thing, him talking those that's 10 years by itself. I think I read. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:55 What I'm really concerned though. I can't see. With the feds though. I don't see. I just think it's globally embarrassing. I don't think, you know, I'm not sure if they'll do that well i'm concerned um i was watching something last night and one of the
Starting point is 00:09:10 uh security analysts that's been kind of following this case said that it's not just the groups like the the proud boys but they have found you know a lot of intel coming from police departments and you know former military and they said it's a lot of groups out there that are in positions of power that are far more dangerous and prepared than a lot of the protesters that you'll see. So we'll see how it plays out. Hopefully everybody, you know, be safe today and, you know, I guess exercise their right to protest. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm not saying they won't while out today. And of course, we don't want them to. But I don't think Trump folks riding with him like he thinks they are, i feel like if they were they'd have been riding already we'll see we'll
Starting point is 00:09:48 see they said those they said those senior citizens from the block yeah different energy in florida so and that is front page news you remember they did that whole you know that that whole like damn near whatever they call a caravan or parade of cars remember when the trump and they were all driving through long island and driving through Queens and they came through the city and there was hundreds of cars. And then in Florida, remember, there was hundreds of boats. They had all their boats protesting. That's toned down, though.
Starting point is 00:10:13 You're not impressed, gentlemen? No, I ain't. That wasn't storming the Capitol. You know what I mean? That was a nice little car show. Shut up, DJ Andy. Car show. Shut up, DJ Andy. Nah, that can't come to mind. But alright, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:10:29 If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051. If you need to get anything off your chest, phone lines are wide open. Tez, we'll see you in a couple of minutes. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:10:51 We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Ashley. Hey, Ashley. Good morning. Where are you calling from? Columbus. Columbus, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Oh, I am. Get it off your chest, mama. Okay, so I'm a stay-at-home mom, but I also have my business on the side, and I just feel like my husband is just so inconsiderate half the time. He doesn't understand what I really do.
Starting point is 00:11:16 In the matter of words, I actually do. You know how you can fix that, Ashley? Go away for a day. And let him watch them six kids on it. When I go away for a day, my kids, they call me. I'll be like, where's your dad? They'll be like, oh, he's in the room. Nah, you turn off your phone for one day and let him have to deal with feeding them kids,
Starting point is 00:11:35 watching those kids, taking the kids out. Why are you giving this bad advice? That's dumb. If your wife turned off her phone for one day, you'd have a fit. Right. No, don't turn off your phone, Ashley. He doesn't appreciate her. So she's saying that she's a stay-at-home mom.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And we've been together since high school. He's the only man I've ever been with. I really give everything and all my time to everybody. My kids and him. Do not turn your phone off for your husband. Relax and let him have to take care of the kids. I bet you when you come back, he'll be like, baby, please don't leave. Baby, baby, baby.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Don't turn your phone off for your husband, man. Do not listen to Envy because Envy would have a fit if Gia turned off the phone for him one day. That's true. Shut it out. But I would check my wife.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I know how hard it is. Six kids? You still would have a fit if she turned her phone off for a day. Imagine calling your wife. Imagine how many times we call our wife a day
Starting point is 00:12:18 and we can't get in touch with her for 24 hours. He don't respect his wife, so he got a lot of respect. I agree. He does have a lot of respect. But she's speaking for her and you're speaking for you, so you respect your wife, so he got a lot of respect. I agree. He does have the most respect. But she's speaking for her, and you're speaking for you. So you respect your wife, but that doesn't speak to how she feel about what you're presenting her.
Starting point is 00:12:31 So he could think he's respecting her, and she may not feel it. That's true. But I voice that, too, because I do understand that communication is key. And I voice that, and he'll be like, well, I just want this, or I just want that. And I'll be like, okay, I just want this or I just want that and I'll be like, okay, like in the morning. I see.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Sounds good. Respect is subjective though. I was going to say that too. Respect is subjective so I got to know what her definition of feeling disrespected is. Right. She just told us.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Right. You know what I'm saying? So you might have to... Well, but see, I'm specific. Like, especially,
Starting point is 00:13:04 I catered a wedding. I had five other orders besides the wedding this weekend. And I was just exhausted. Up every hour with the baby. You know? And he's off on the weekends, but he didn't get up and help me. But didn't want to try to wake me up and then get an attitude when I'm like, no, get out my face. Damn.
Starting point is 00:13:21 See? You might just have to wake him up at 3 o'clock in the morning, sit on his face, and be like, how's it feel now? You might have to do that. But good luck, man. Thank you. That's not disrespectful, though. Not to me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:35 Man wants a fellatio in the morning. Poor man, poor woman been out with the baby all night. I get it. It might be inconsiderate, but it ain't disrespectful. There we go. Inc get it, but it might be inconsiderate, but it ain't disrespectful. There we go. Inconsiderate, not disrespectful. It would be disrespectful to go the other way. That's right.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Go find something. That's right. It's real talk, dude. Hello, who's this? Good morning, how are you? Good, good, good. Get it off your chest, mama. I am really upset at my husband this morning because I had an accident
Starting point is 00:14:06 on Friday and when he changed up the car he never carried over rentals so now I'm having to freaking
Starting point is 00:14:14 like get up early in the morning drop my kid off early and freaking have to struggle all week because of his
Starting point is 00:14:22 idiocy like he's just like damn it feels like he's like Well, we can't we can't really hear you cuz you so upset that you yelling but all I all like we can hear is that you're Mad at your husband something about a rental car. He didn't give it back and now you have to do it And you want a while out on his ass Well, yeah, no I got into a car Yeah, thank you. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Well, yeah, no, I got into a car accident on Friday. It was my fault because I was rushing. But, like, when he turned over, like, when we changed cars, he never put his rent on.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Like, how do you have two cars on the insurance with no rent on? Hmm. I don't know what to tell you. So, now I'm forced to figure out how to get to work
Starting point is 00:15:02 back and forth. We work opposite ways and opposite schedules. Oh, so he got the rental and you don't have one? No, no, no. He never put rental on when he changed over cars. He never put rental on when he changed over cars. You know when you get into an accident and you have rental insurance?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yes. Oh, got you. So you got to pay for the car now. Got you, got you, got you. So you're upset. Yeah, and it's like, we got to pay for summer camp. Like, they ain't even cheap. Well, you shouldn't have gotten into an accident.
Starting point is 00:15:33 We won't figure it out. No, you shouldn't have gotten into an accident, ma'am. It was your fault. You said that. But you know what? Okay, yeah, it was my fault. But however, this is why we have insurance. This is why we put options on there.
Starting point is 00:15:45 What if somebody would've hit me? It sound like all y'all... It sound like both of y'all blaming each other for things that are out of y'all control, and that's whack. Yeah, I mean, you should've put insurance on your car,
Starting point is 00:15:55 but people do that because they be like, I'm never gonna get in an accident. Why I gotta pay this extra for insurance? Same way you shouldn't've got into an accident, he probably should've had insurance,
Starting point is 00:16:02 but there's no need for y'all to be pointing a finger at each other. I understand that, but like, now our kids have to... for y'all to be pointing a finger at each other. I understand that. But, like, now our kids have to, now our kids have to be up at 6 a.m. to go drop meals at work. That's not fair to y'all. You got to figure it out, though.
Starting point is 00:16:11 That's life. You know what I'm saying? You got to figure out how to pivot in life. So y'all arguing now? We ain't arguing. Y'all, you should go in the bedroom right now and give him some fellatio. Just make up.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Jesus Christ. But it's been a month. Nah, we good. Nah. All right. Have a good one, mama. Fellatio don't fix everything, guys. It does's been a month. No, we good. No. All right. Have a good one, mama. Glacier don't fix everything, guys. It does most of the things.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah, it fix a lot. It fix a lot. Help us to sleep. Right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed. It's time to get up and get something. Call up now.
Starting point is 00:16:53 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning. This is Matt from Atlanta. How are you all doing? I'm Matt from Atlanta. What's up, brother?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Get it off your chest. I just wanted to get off mental healing, anxiety, and anything that everybody's going through. For me, I've been suffering from anxiety for a couple of years, and I can tell you that I'm much better mentally, and I'm able to pursue my goals and my dreams that I want to do in life. My goal has always been to talk to your host and with my YouTube show I'm promoting that and just journey of healing so anybody that's going through that just please
Starting point is 00:17:33 pray and I pray all the mental healing that you all get and I just wanted to express that and my love for you all that I have especially MV Charlemagne you too I listen to you every morning and thank you all for everything that you do it means a lot and I you all for everything that you do. It means a lot, and I just want to put that out there for everybody. What's your YouTube channel, brother? It's M-A-T-T Productions.
Starting point is 00:17:51 That's all capitals, M.A.T.T. That's making accomplishments through troubles. I got my YouTube show called Tenga Talks. That's just talking about my healing, and it's just talking about me, and I'm coming out with another episode For Father's Day this Sunday For all the fathers out there
Starting point is 00:18:08 So be on the lookout Keep growing, black man Absolutely Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Wise Out of North Carolina What's up, Wise? Get it off your chest, brother
Starting point is 00:18:18 Aw, man I just want to give big Gemini energy For my daughter today, man She's turned 24 years old Wow Infinity beyond Well, happy birthday to her, brother big Gemini energy for my daughter today, man. She's turned 24 years old. Wow. Infinity, beyond. Well, happy birthday to her, brother.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Yeah, man. And for all y'all out there, man, she's an R&B artist, one of the top R&B artists out of North Carolina. For her birthday, all I want is for somebody to go and scream her single, Real Love. All right, well, spell her name out so people could hear it.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Alright, man. Infinity, I-N-F-I-N-I-T-Y S-I-O-N-E You know when people type in Real Love, first thing coming up is Mary J. Blige. Definitely Mary J. Blige. You already know that, right? No doubt. Yeah, but when you hear the song,
Starting point is 00:19:01 you'll understand what I'm talking about. So you say Infinity and her last name is S-O-N-N-E? S-I-O-N-E. Let me see if I find it. Let me see if I find it. You mean like Buzz Lightyear? That's from Toy Story, right? Infinity and Beyond?
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yes. Oh, okay. Yes, yes. It's spelled like that. And that's her government name, Infinity and Beyond. You named your child after toy store you shut up man it's not after toys inspired by inspired by inspired by i tried to look it up bro i don't see it though yo it's i n f i n i t y gotta get that together
Starting point is 00:19:42 i keep looking brother i ain't see it though on the-O-N-E. I keep looking, brother. I didn't see it on the first look, but I keep looking. Yeah, keep looking. And it's probably on I-T-Y-S-I-O-N-E. All right, brother. Underscore Dion. Okay, brother. A father loves his daughter.
Starting point is 00:20:01 He's going to put his song out on Instagram. Instagram, everything. All right. Get it off your chest. Instagram. That's right. Yeah. All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. When we come back, we'll tell you about some old school beef. Anita Baker pulls out the chopper on Babyface. That sounds crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:14 It does, but it is pretty good. It's very entertaining. And we'll get to it next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:20:26 We are The Breakfast Club. We got our guest co-host, Looney, with us. Yes, sir. Of course, he's our host of the It's Up There podcast. Let's get to the rumors. Let's start off with Anita Baker. Rumor has it. Rumor.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Rumor has it. Call out her name or you gossiping or you chatty patty. I'm gossiping. This is The Rumor Report. I mean, I guess we on The Breakfast Club. This is where the tea spills, right? Yes, on The Breakfast Club. This sounds crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:48 It does, but let's get right into it. It's pretty, it was pretty funny. Now, Anita Baker, if you don't know who Anita Baker is, I'm sure some of you might not know who she is. If you got to explain to people who Anita Baker is, then you don't need to be talking to those people. Continue with this. No, but give a little something of what Anita Baker sings.
Starting point is 00:21:02 You ain't seen our demo. But that's... If you got to explain to people who Anita Baker is, they are uncoached swine. Just in case. Well, Anita Baker and Babyface are on a multi-city tour. I'm not going to explain to the people who Babyface is. Babyface Ray, he's from Detroit. He's a phenomenal rapper. Not Babyface Ray.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Stop it. You can't Babyface Ray. Stop it. You're confusing people. Babyface, of course. Now, Babyface, Stopper. You're confusing people. Babyface, of course. Now, Babyface, they're on tour, and it seems like some of the tours stopped. Babyface hasn't been able to do his full set. So people were complaining about that, and they have been, quote-unquote, harassing Anita Baker.
Starting point is 00:21:39 So Anita Baker, throughout these comments, she says, Good morning to Kenny's Crazies, who continue to harass me. Kenny's Crazies who continue to harass me. Kenny's Crazies. Kenny's Crazies are online bullies. Babyface, please call off your fans. I have been only kind and supportive of you as the special guest support on my tour. Special guest support.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Damn. That's like a C&I dog. So people was like, special guest support. Yeah, I thought he was co-headline and she was like no read the contract he was only there as a special guest support they're going back and forth like that on facebook that's crazy actually black planet now i'm just joking i'm not black but it's twitter and instagram she and then she put he hates beyonce as well kenny's crazy. Now, somebody said that.
Starting point is 00:22:25 That's petty as hell, Anita Baker. That's when you in a beef with somebody and now you want people to jump in. He don't like Beyonce either. Get him behind. That's what you're saying. All right. Then somebody says you're a jailbird to Anita Baker. Why is she a jailbird?
Starting point is 00:22:39 She responded, I fought and won that case 20 years ago. And now I'm more successful than ever. What? It doesn't diminish babyface. Manager connected as my special guest support act to help expose him. Him to my arena-sized fan base. It helps him. How you calling me to bake a prison pants?
Starting point is 00:22:57 Bye. That's crazy. Bye to Kenny's creepy crazies. So then somebody else said something. And then she responded. There's a white man behind these grown black men harassing me and gaslighting my fans because he can't take over this tour. Shout out. He wants to destroy this tour. Kenny's Crazy Narcissist.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Babyface, call off your boys. Here's the thing. I don't know why Anita Baker and Babyface are beefing, but I know that Babyface and Anita Baker have both earned the right to beef. So I'm staying out of grown folks' business. Facts. What I see about, I think, if you had to do a concert with Babyface and Anita Baker, who should headline?
Starting point is 00:23:37 Who should? Ugh. I don't know. Because it seems like the beef is about, you know. No, I think the beef is. That's a co-headlining tour for sure. It is a co-headlining tour. But I would say, I guess Anita Baker is the headliner.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And I guess in certain places, I guess the music and the set hasn't been right. So they've been starting a little later. And since they've been starting a little later, they have to get out of these arenas on time. So that means instead of cutting her set short, they cut Babyface's set short. And people have been complaining about it you know what I think Anita Baker
Starting point is 00:24:08 probably would be the headliner if you're just looking at them as artists if you're looking at it as a producer level it'd be different it also depends
Starting point is 00:24:16 on demographic because Babyface has written so many hits for so many people but as far as him as an artist I think it would it depends on demographic
Starting point is 00:24:23 as well well they're on the same age yeah but I think Baby would be... It depends on demographic as well. Well, they're around the same age. Yeah, but I think Babyface relates to a little bit of a younger audience than Anita Baker. But who buys the tickets relates to buying the tickets
Starting point is 00:24:34 is a different thing. So when we buy the tickets, I think they serve the same audience. I think the person that'll buy a Babyface ticket will probably buy Anita Baker tickets. I think so, too.
Starting point is 00:24:43 They're only two years apart. Anita's like 66. Babyface's like 64, 65. I don't know, but just Babyface ticket are probably about Anita Baker. I think so too. They're only two years apart. Anita's like 66. Babyface like 64, 65. I don't know but just Babyface I guess he's done so much with the younger artist production
Starting point is 00:24:52 and he's more known for the younger because of that. I mean the man has done stuff with Usher, Jay-Z and all these different people. Are those the records
Starting point is 00:25:00 you want to hear? If you go to a Babyface show do you want to hear the record he did with Usher and Jay-Z? No, I said he's known. The younger audience knows him for that. I just know every day more and more I start to realize why Stephanie Mills made that face when we brought up Anita Baker's name last time Stephanie Mills was here.
Starting point is 00:25:12 We got that clip, right? Is there anybody you would take notes from, like respectfully? Like is there anybody that could give you a note and be like, you know what, I'll listen to that. Diana Ross. The legend. That's right. You just got in. Diana Ross, Gladys Knight.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Patti LaBelle. Patti LaBelle. Anita Baker. Who? the legend that's right you just got it dinah ross gladys knight patty libelle patty libelle who don't don't say that i've seen that face jesus all right you and anita got smoke no no we don't no we don't you just wouldn't take no no she just can't take no i wouldn't take She just can't take notes from me. No, I wouldn't take notes from Anita. I love Anita. That face ain't look like you love Anita, Missy. No, it just look like she can't take notes from me. She ain't say she ain't love me. She said, no, I can't. One thing about them OGs, them OGs can't hide what they feel now.
Starting point is 00:25:56 No, they can't. Anita clearly been applying pressure to her peers for years. Jesus. Clearly. Jesus. Wow. Now we got to jump to Dwayne Wade now duane wade addresses the uh 50 50 comments by gabrielle union when they were talking about splitting the finances he was talking to
Starting point is 00:26:13 shannon sharp and this is what he said we decided together because i think i said one time we was in miami i said something about it being my house that i paid for my wife looked at me she was like you will never say that to me again when it's something that we share. And so my wife was like, when we move to LA, I got half on it. You will never say my house again. If we take a yacht trip,
Starting point is 00:26:32 we could do a 50-50 or I could do it myself. But my wife is a working woman. She's a boss and an independent woman of her own life. She's like, I'm going to put, you know what,
Starting point is 00:26:41 that little 200 that she was going to spend on this, I'm going to throw something else on there and we little 200 that she was gonna spend on this I'm gonna throw something else on there we're gonna go on a bigger trip we're gonna ball up like this is my wife right right like I don't know about y'all but I like having a wife that's like that's cool you can do that she was like no let me put something else on and let us live a little different so we probably share three things in our life that we 50 50 on right everything else I'm 1,000 percent it's's just one thousand percent right i respect it
Starting point is 00:27:05 i'm not sure i think um 50 50 man i don't know i think if it's if it's not a situation where she is financially in that position i think you should be able to take care of it but both of them are rich so i respect it yeah and he caused the issue yeah he caused the issue he caused the prop i was gonna say that when he said this is my house, I paid for it. Oh, yeah. Okay. That would still be an argument. Gary, let me show you something, young boy.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Or is that reverse psychology? What do you mean? You think he said it just to make a bet? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can tell you that to make you start paying. Like, you know, maybe I want some help on it. Maybe I do. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I don't think he wanted that smoke in the crib. F right well that is your rumor report now when we come back we got front page news teslan figueroa will be joining us and ryan coogler and peter nix will be here so don't move it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club your mornings will never be the same if you had the power to go back in time and change something, would you? In a new movie to flash, worlds collide in an epic adventure that brings us two Batmans, General Zod, and a badass Supergirl. Get tickets now for the new Flash, only in theaters June 16th, rated PG-13. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get into some front page news.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Now we got our guest co-host, Louie, here. Of course, he's the host of It's Up There podcast. And we got Tezlyn Figueroa back. Tez, good morning. Good morning, DJ Envy and Looney and Charlamagne Tha God. Peace, Tez. We got to congratulate the Denver Nuggets. They beat the Miami Heat last night, 94-89. So congratulations to Joker and the whole
Starting point is 00:28:41 Denver Nuggets. This got to be one of the lowest rated finals too, right? Thanks. I'm sure. It's got to be. I'm sure. It wasn't exciting. No.
Starting point is 00:28:49 In no way, shape, or form. But, I mean, that's what happens when you've got a team like Denver going up against number eight, number four, number seven, and number eight seeds. You know what I'm saying? They swept the Lakers. They was the number seven seed. Lost one game to the Heat. They were the number eight seed.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Only lost four games the whole postseason. We knew what the outcome was going to be, man. But we were hoping that it would be a little closer, right? Weren't we? I guess, maybe. Hope ain't a strategy. Gina Butler's been playing. We say, Lou?
Starting point is 00:29:13 Hope is not a strategy. Hope is not a strategy. That's not a strategy. All right, well, let's get into front page news. Now, let's talk about CNN's Town Hall with Chris Christie. Yeah, so I wanted to give you a quick update on a few takeaways from the CNN Town Hall with former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. Yeah, so I wanted to give you a quick update on a few takeaways from the CNN town hall with former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. He laid into Donald Trump in the town
Starting point is 00:29:31 hall, calling the former president angry and vengeful and accusing him of a vanity run amok. Here is what he had to say about what he thinks Trump will do if he is reelected for a second term. Let's take a listen. Oh, because he's so angry now. He's angry and he's vengeful. And he said, I will be your retribution. Well, I don't think I don't want him to be my retribution. I don't need him to do that.
Starting point is 00:29:56 And I don't think anybody in America needs it either. He wants to be retribution for himself. I am convinced that if he goes back to the White House, that the next four years will all be about him just settling scores, Anderson. That's a fact. Everybody who he thinks wasn't perfectly nice to him. Oh, that's a fact. All his political opponents getting locked up.
Starting point is 00:30:15 He's going to put cases on all of them, from Clinton to Biden to Obama. Pelican Bay. Yeah, we got to worry about that. Pelican Bay. Okay? I'm putting cases on all you bitches. Guaranteed. A hundred percent. What did he say was the reason he turned away from trump test well you know uh the the comment caucus is what i like to call him on youtube you know they're saying he's just bitter and upset you know that trump
Starting point is 00:30:36 which that's probably some truth to that but his reason uh that he gave that he said why he turned away from trump was the moment that trump basically told the American people, you know, to when he denied the election. He called Trump a loser and a child. He compared the former president's refusal to accept his defeat for reelection like a blame deflecting tantrum from a child who just failed a test at school. Chrissy said, I beg of you to think about this. Don't allow the showmanship to obscure the facts. The facts are he lost to Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Here's what I don't like about Republicans. They all talk tough now. If Donald Trump becomes the GOP nominee, will they still talk tough or will they fall in line? They'll fall in place. They'll fall in place. You know what I mean? That's when you know you really got something. If he becomes a GOP nominee and they all don't support him.
Starting point is 00:31:23 No, they got to fall in place. That's what they always do. They make sure they fall in place to support whoever's running. No matter what. That's across the board for politicians. I would say, you know, except Joe Manchin. He's the only one that don't fall in place. Now let's talk about this COVID-19
Starting point is 00:31:38 relief aid and they're saying like billions were stolen or wasted. Yeah, they're calling it the great grift. An Associated Press analysis again that they're calling the great grift, found that fraudsters potentially stole more than $280 billion in COVID-19 relief funding. Another $123 billion was wasted or misspent. Combined, the loss represents 10% of the $4.2 trillion the U.Ss government has so far distributed in the covid relief aid now the u.s government has charged more than 2 230 defendants with pandemic related fraud crimes
Starting point is 00:32:12 and is conducting thousands of investigations so it looks like some more folks might be going to jail did they say anything about a ppp loan for us yeah the pPP loan that you have always heard about and a lot of folks got it. Well, they said that the SBA inspector general's office has estimated fraud in the disaster loan program. Eighty six billion for the disaster loan and the PPP program. There was about 20 billion in fraud in the watchdog. The watchdog group that is laying out all of this. They're expected in the coming weeks to revise those figures and they expect it to be much higher so folks can find that report on the associated press it has a lot of information that i think is really interesting
Starting point is 00:32:55 it talks about how much was stolen what agencies were hit the hardest how that money was allocated what could have been done better and more importantly who is to blame so it's pretty good report i ain't see him going at nobody anymore i just seen what's homie from what was name uh blue what's the name big blue he was the only one i ever seen got arrested right yeah probably probably somebody with a name but i'm sure they not they're gone yeah regular every day people what's happening is they they have a different way of they still investigating it but i've saw them grab people. I've seen people get into big trouble about it.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Take homes, take cars. Really? Right, yeah. People has been going crazy. What's crazy to me is y'all made all of that money and y'all didn't do nothing with it. Y'all don't even know how to money launder, right? Right. Back in the day, drug dealers knew how to properly money launder
Starting point is 00:33:39 when they got some illegal money. Y'all give this illegal money and don't even know what to do with it. Well, they're going to get jewelry, cars. That's what I'm saying. Pops and bottles. Dumbness bottles dumbness yeah all the things they tell drug dealers not to do back on the pj all the things that make you hot when you were the drug dealer back in the day they doing now with stolen money on instagram so you know taking photos right
Starting point is 00:33:59 the first thing we do or most people do is they want to compete with people who's been in business a long time they instantly try to look like you look to compete with people who's been in business a long time they instantly try to look like you look like we looked at we've been doing business a long time and so they'll instantly get the private jet to cause the bro this is stolen money that's right have some reserve all right well that is front page news thank you tesla yes no problem thank you hey tez thank you and make sure you subscribe to the Tezla Figueroa Scrape Shot No Chaser podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Now, when we come back, Ryan Coogler and Peter Nix will be joining us. They have a new documentary called Anthem, which comes out June 28th on Hulu. And we're going to kick it with them when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 00:34:50 We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining us this morning. Yes, indeed. We got Ryan Coogler and Peter Nix. Welcome, fellas. What's up? Thanks for having us. How y'all feeling? Feeling good. Feeling good? New documentary anthem. Yeah, man. I've long felt like the national anthem, like most things in America need to be changed to represent the world we currently live in.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Clearly, y'all felt the same, which is which is why the doc was created. Right. Absolutely. I mean, I think we're in a time right now go a little bit deeper on, you know, the history of that song. And also the opportunity to imagine what an anthem would be like for today that reflects the American story. What made you dive deep into the anthem? Right. Because we're in school. You learn it. You don't really think much of it. This was very knowledgeable because it taught where the origin came from. When when you're a student they don't teach you the origin they just say sing it you know i mean so what made y'all dive deep into understanding learning and to even discuss this i've been looking at a couple of projects that were examining this collision between patriotism and protest and obviously we're seeing it in in the headlines every day
Starting point is 00:36:00 i've always wanted to make a music doc. Number one, the anthem seemed like a perfect stage to examine the American voice in the American the American story. And also this notion that music does bring us together and that may be a project using music as an exploration of the American story could in some way reflect some idea of optimism in this difficult time that we're in right now. One of you both know is going to be a profession, right right because i'm sure at one time you thought you were gonna play football in the league you know i mean i'm sure one time you thought you were gonna do something else when did y'all know like this is a profession well when i was at howard um i was on the 11 year plan at howard it was interrupted by my my stay with the federal government um and i was a creative writing major i I was going to be a writer. That's what I thought I was going to do.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I was writing. And I'd met this kid in an AA meeting. And he worked at this little tiny news service called the Hispanic Link, which at the time, there were very little. There's very little news telling the story of the Hispanic community in America. So this tiny hole-in-the-wall news service in D.C. was syndicated nationwide. And it was run by this white guy who'd married this woman from Oaxaca, Mexico. And it was a love story. And so I was just struck by it. And so I made a little short documentary and it was my thesis project on my senior project at Howard. And, um, I fell in love with the documentary and I looked at where, where the
Starting point is 00:37:17 best, you know, documentary programs and UC Berkeley, the journalism school at Berkeley has one of the, one of the top programs. And so I went there. When I made that decision to apply to graduate school, I kind of knew this is what I'm committing to do. This is what I'm going for. Right. And you, Ryan, when did you know that this was going to be your profession? Because I know at one time you said, I'm going to play in the league.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I know you thought you were going to play for the Raiders. Big time. Yeah, yeah. It's a great question. I've been asked it before my wife always laughs but it was after I made my fourth movie
Starting point is 00:37:48 it was when I was like okay I'm gonna be doing this for a while what was the fourth one Wakanda Fabric that's when you that's when you said this is a profession
Starting point is 00:37:55 I think it could have been before that one nah I'm telling you bro Fruitvale, Creed Black Panther that one kind of thing yeah cause I don't know
Starting point is 00:38:03 like some combination of like imposter syndrome that's what I was gonna say that sounds like eat black panther and all that kind of stuff? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because I don't know, like, some combination of like imposter syndrome. That's what I was going to say. That sounds like imposter syndrome. And internalizing this internalized feeling of it's like
Starting point is 00:38:16 it's all going to be taken away from me. You know what I'm saying? Like that, that, it just went away. So you didn't think you were good enough?
Starting point is 00:38:24 It was a combination of a lot of things. For one, I didn't think I were good enough? It was a combination of a lot of things. For one, I didn't think I was good enough. Like, I was thinking I was fooling people. I got lucky with each movie, you know what I'm saying? But I think, like, we were kind of forever going through so much. You know, number one, losing Chad. Chad, what happened? No, number one, losing Chad, rest in peace, man.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And he had so much confidence in me, you know what one losing chad you know number one losing chad rest in peace man and and he had he had so much confidence in me you know what i'm saying um and and and he would speak you know he would speak confidence in me when i was having moments of doubt um and i and and a lot of times i would think he was just just trying to get me through the day you know you know what i'm saying because you do that with your teammates right right? Hey, you got this. Even though you might not believe they really got it, but you tell them, you know what I'm saying? But then in retrospect, after he passed,
Starting point is 00:39:12 and knowing what I knew about him, that he would never BS somebody, you know what I'm saying? And finishing that film, that was like the first time I was like, okay, I think I'm going to be doing this for the rest of my life. How nerve-wracking was that film and that was like the first time I was like, okay, I think I'm going to be, I think I'm going to be doing this for the rest of my life. How nerve wracking was that film
Starting point is 00:39:28 with all those celebrities and all those stars and people that's been in so many movies? The first one? Yeah. Man, crazy nerve wracking,
Starting point is 00:39:35 bro. But the thing is, all my movies was nerve wracking. My nerves was wracked on the short he was talking about, you know? So, I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:41 you know, you know that feeling, you know? And like, like, you don't ever get to a point Where you're like I've done enough
Starting point is 00:39:46 Where I'm comfortable And I I'm getting there I think I'm getting there You know You don't ever want to Get to a point Where you're comfortable
Starting point is 00:39:53 Yeah Where I feel like I'm going to be doing this For some time I would say confident You're confident in you Getting there Getting there
Starting point is 00:40:02 Also I think It's a belief That your voice What you have to say, is going to be received. It's going to be received by the culture, by the critics, by the audiences. And our culture sort of shifts. And those voices, the voices that do matter, that do bubble up to the surface, it's not always because of the relevance or the power of those voices. It's sort of the ecosystem of our culture and society allows certain voices to come forward.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Is it the pressure of knowing how many young minorities look up to you guys like, I want to be the next? You know what I mean? Is that part of it as well? Yeah, man. It's so much. It's all of it, bro. Like, y'all feel it.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Y'all black. You know what I'm saying? You know, when you first got this job, it's like, I got to do my thing for my family. But I also got to do my thing for the next person who look like me who want to do this. That came later. At first, it was just about survival. Yeah. You know, because I had been fired from four times for real.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So it was about survival. Then once you start to realize the magnitude of the platform it's like you gotta do it for the people yeah and what's great is like look it's Monday I didn't check the papers
Starting point is 00:41:10 but I think Stephen Cable's movie was number one Transformers it was number one yeah so like Pete got this movie coming we got a Steph doc that's gonna come
Starting point is 00:41:18 and the more of us that succeed it actually takes some of the pressure off you know what I'm saying like that's also that has also helped you know what I mean saying? Like, that has also helped. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:27 Like, it's not like, oh, it's only one. We got one shot. We got one representative. It's like, I'm always a bunch of us. You know what I'm saying? And that's changing the fabric of what a blockbuster director looks like. You know, or how much support a nonfiction film gets from a studio or from the audience.
Starting point is 00:41:44 You know what i'm saying like which is typically very little yeah i'm extremely grateful for for the platform that prox proximity has provided and that is a powerful idea to sort of validate not just different perspectives of voice but different genres and styles of storytelling one more thing about the imposter syndrome when you're ryan coogler and we know the greatness of Ryan Coogler, but the media will say things like, oh, he's the next George Lucas. Like, you're always the next somebody. Right. They never just use it.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Does that contribute to the imposter syndrome? Them always saying you're the next someone? It don't help. All right. That never helps to hear somebody compare you to, like, a generational great. You know what I'm saying? That's why I always feel for Brian. You know what I mean? Yeah. We will I always feel for Bron. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah. We'll never appreciate Bron. I say that all the time. You'll never appreciate Bron if you keep comparing him to this ghost that is Michael Jordan. Let me tell you something. But I will say, this whole time I've had Pete, bro,
Starting point is 00:42:37 you know what I'm saying, as a friend, who, you know, people don't know him as much as they might know George Lucas or Spielberg, but incredible working filmmaker and a family man, you know what I'm saying, who got wisdom for me whenever I needed in terms of navigation.
Starting point is 00:42:52 So I'll be forever thankful for him and to help him make this beautiful movie, man, Anthem, that only he could make. Y'all can talk to him more about it, but only he could make a movie where, you know, it's like, yo, we're going to examine this national institution. You know what I'm saying? It's got all of these, it's triggering for everybody, you know, and come out with a song on the other side. You come out watching a movie feeling good, you know. But yeah, like I'm thankful.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I'm thankful for him too. All right, we got more with Ryan Coogler and Pete Nix. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Ryan Coogler and Peter Nix, when we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:43:27 We're still kicking it with Ryan Coogler and Peter Nix. They have a new documentary, Anthem, out on June 28th. Charlamagne? You know, Pete, it made me wonder watching Anthem. Why did black people ever accept the anthem to begin with? Why did they ever accept the national anthem to begin with? I don't know. You know, I've seen it from a lot of different perspectives.
Starting point is 00:43:44 You know, I guess I like to say I was born into the story of race i was born in 68 oh wow my birth mother's white my birth father was black her family threatened to disown her if she married him she put me up for adoption i was adopted by a black family my dad's uh descendant of slaves from the south gulla my mom's south car Yep. At home. My mom, her parents came over from West Africa, Cape Verde. I married a woman, a refugee from Laos. I've got kids who are mixed race. Been in federal prison on a drug charge. Went to all white private schools.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Went to Howard. So I've seen life from all these different angles and perspectives in all my work. At the same time, I've never been thrown down on the ground by a cop i've been called a couple times but that's usually when i'm with my other family people don't kind of know how to pin me you know and and i i generally can can slide through uh like miscellaneous and kind of miscellaneous yeah and that that also sort of borrowed into my own psyche about my identity who am who am? And I think that question of who am I is also the question I think as a country we're trying to sort of grapple with, who are we?
Starting point is 00:44:50 We're all different, but we're all the same. And I think all of my work, I like to step into spaces that are a little bit messy and examining those questions, whether it's what are our values as a country in delivering healthcare to Americans and setting that in a public hospital waiting room. What does it mean if a police department says they're trying to reform? What does that mean? Is that real? How important is education, you know, to to equity in our culture? And so, you know, the anthem was was sort of a natural examining that question of should you love it or hate it? Should you should we tear it down? Should or hate it? Should we tear it down?
Starting point is 00:45:26 Should we burn it? Should we recreate it? Some people love it. Some people hate it. I love Jimi Hendrix's version. To me, it was always beyond. It went into some spiritual place. It was still the anthem.
Starting point is 00:45:38 It's still the Star Spangled Banner at the end of the day. Marvin Gaye's version. Jose Feliciano. These are all beautiful renditions of a song that that is is being unpacked but it's it's still the the anthem and i felt that that was a great starting point to sort of you know think about well what would it mean to create a new anthem and if we were to create a new anthem today and allow the diversity of voice in this country to create that song what would that be and on the surface it's in this country to create that song, what would that be?
Starting point is 00:46:05 And on the surface, it's an impossible task. Right. Because you can't really, we were like, do we need to, like, you know, get into sort of, like, blues, hip-hop, gospel, jazz, like, rock, house music, go-go? I mean, there's so many different styles of music that reflect the American story. So, you know, there could be another two or three movies, you know, on this side, using this construct. One thing I do love is, you know, there could be another two or three movies, you know, on this on this side using this this construct. One thing I do love is is, you know, Anthem besides Anthem.
Starting point is 00:46:29 I love the evolution story. Right. Because a lot of times in this day and age, people don't allow you to evolve. Right. They look at your past and they try to keep you in the past of who you were. And the fact that you talk about everything that you've been through and how you've changed and the things that you're doing i don't i don't think a lot of times people allow people to have that evolution and to change so i commend that and have you had a hard time because of your past because you know charlamagne and myself we've all had a past and we talk about our past and the reason we talk about is because you know nobody's ever perfect right there's no life that's perfect so the fact that you talk about the things that you've been to and you're still able to leave your mark on the world on some positives is the amazing story.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Well, I think I don't know why, you know, I, you know, I remember distinctly when I got out of prison, I got a job working at this this elementary school in D.C., which, you know, I was I went back to Howard and they have like an internship program where you fill out, you know, where do you, where do you want to work? And I kind of went into the space of denial of what had happened to me. And I didn't check the box, you know, basically lied. And I got placed at this elementary school, which happened to be a school where like presidents, like where Obama sends his kids, where like some of those powerful people in DC send their kids. And i remember i took the job i was working at this job and one day the lawyer who represented represented me in my case which was prosecuted by merrick garland he's now the attorney general united states walked in on a tour with his son and i was my job that day was to like check all the parents in and give them name tags. And here comes my lawyer. Oh, boy. And he sees me.
Starting point is 00:48:08 And we looked at each other. And he was like, oh, how are you doing? And he's probably thinking to himself, what the hell is this guy doing? Drug trafficker doing, working at the school. Presumably, I'm going to send my kid. And I eventually left that job. And I had to tell all the people that I had lied. And from that point forward, I decided that I was had to tell all the people you know that i had lied and then from that point
Starting point is 00:48:25 forward i decided that i was going to tell my story i was going to step into the difficult space of being real about my story um talking about my dad's alcoholism asking my dad about his alcoholism on camera we had never talked black families don't talk about trump their trauma no their mental health things like alcoholism and it it just felt like an empowering thing. And it also felt like something that our country needed to do more is examine and step into these more real, authentic spaces. We are all those things. I want to ask about Anthem. What do you think it would take to actually create a new national anthem well one of the insights that seemed very common as we asked that same question
Starting point is 00:49:06 to a lot of people in in the making of the film and also now that the film is coming out is that maybe there can't be one anthem you know there there has to be many anthems i mean the idea of anthem is so you know there's the anthem the national anthem but then there's like personal anthems of the song you put on at the gym or the song that you recall when you got married or the song that just gets you hyped. You know, something that inspires you. You know, we all have different ways of allowing these songs and these songs are ultimately stories. They're narratives, the narratives that we tell ourselves and the narratives that we use to reflect, you know, our families, our communities. and that can't be boiled down into one song, but that the intention of allowing multiple perspectives to inform a national anthem, a national story,
Starting point is 00:49:50 wasn't how the original song was created, that Francis Scott Key was created, using the music of this British pub song. And so that intention could lead to other insights and meaning that we could carry into our future as a country. The doc also had me thinking, if there was a new national anthem what what genre of music would it be delivered to because i love the way y'all went through country which i never even referred to as white when you refer to it as white soul i was like oh it is white so you know i mean
Starting point is 00:50:17 like what genre of music would it be best delivered through the way america would embrace it i was having this conversation with the dude outside the cellar last night. I think I... what's his name? David or Brian? And I asked him and immediately he was like hip-hop. Hip-hop. And I'm 68, I was born in 68 so I am the age of hip-hop and we talked about it you know because we brought on Dahi early in the process and Dahi's produced it, you know, because we brought on Dahi early in the process. And Dahi's produced some of, you know, hip-hop's greatest artists. So many different people. It was weird to hear him say that he's only been to New York and L.A. too.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I was like, wow, that he hasn't been in the middle of America. I thought that was weird. A lot of us haven't. A lot of us, you know, don't enter these spaces. We grow up in our communities. We sometimes step out sometimes but there are you know definitely places in the south or nashville it's it's like you saw what happened when they pulled up and what are y'all doing it and they didn't fully articulate what
Starting point is 00:51:15 they were doing they said what are y'all doing you know we're all we're making a documentary exploring american music they didn't say we're making a documentary rewriting the national anthem you know so um i i do think but i but i think you know um you say hip-hop it should be hip hip-hop like that that that is you know gospel you know house house music all these things are inflections but you know the blues thing we knew that there were certain foundational places that we wanted to explore. Blues is one of those foundational places. Native American music, which is very rarely included in the conversation of the American music story. We knew that we wanted to step into those spaces and allow them to inform the song. All right, we got more with Ryan Coogler and Pete Nix. When we come back, don't move.
Starting point is 00:52:02 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Ryan Coogler and Peter Nix. They have a new documentary, Anthem, out on June 28th. Charlamagne?
Starting point is 00:52:14 The movie made me, I mean, well, the doc made me think that hip-hop tonight is rooted in soul and spirit as it should be. It feels like a lot of the hip-hop is rooted in that we list who now is rooted in capitalism more so than The stuff that y'all had in the dock that when you listen to the blues and the country was like it was written the Native America stuff it was rooted in soul and spirit Why do you think that is right? That's a heavy question, bro. I mean I'm older today than I've ever been I Think music's complicated. I love that this doc is kind of about American music You know what I mean like this doc is kind of about American music. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:47 Like, it's anthem on the surface, but it's really about American music and about watching a song being written, which I think is fascinating because you got stand-up comedy and you got music. I think them is like two, like, it's straight alchemy. You know what I'm saying? Like, when you see people do it. And I think that, like, I think that black music
Starting point is 00:53:04 has always been a call back home. Like a report. Hey, we still here. Hey, we okay? Like, this here's what's happening. You know what I'm saying? There's nobody out there that hears. You know, I always feel that this electricity runs through my body whenever I come to New York.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I think a part of it is just that it's it's 10 10 million people running around trying to make a way another part of it is this force that's been ever present in my life that's given me a sense of power hip-hop it was founded here you know what i'm saying and and you can you can feel it you know what i mean like i don't know if it's that i know it was here or i can feel it here but it's fantastic you know what i'm saying i think that that thing has constantly changed and and i think the reason why you hearing this trend towards like hyper capitalistic where you know
Starting point is 00:53:51 a lot of it is like war music you know what I'm saying but I think it's like about the right to self determine that people looking for and whatever route that whatever route they can find it you know what I'm saying and sometimes sometimes maybe it's quote on quote misguided sometimes it's truthful you know what i'm saying and sometimes sometimes maybe it's quote-unquote misguided sometimes it's sometimes it's truthful you know what i mean like like somebody that's
Starting point is 00:54:09 living in poverty surrounded by it they think they might think that having some money is a way they can self-determine make themselves safe get their family out of where they where they are you know what i'm saying um sometimes they think picking up a weapon and it was a way to self-determine they feeling vulnerable or weak you you know what I'm saying? Like, I got to show them that I'm strong and I'm not. You know what I mean? I think there's usually some form of truth in it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:34 Like, whether at 37, you know what I'm saying? I'm loving it. That's my best explanation for it. But I think that's what everybody wants. I think that's what's so interesting about it. You know what I'm loving it. That's my best explanation for it. But I think that's what everybody wants. I think that's what's so interesting about it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I come from the home of the Panthers. It's all about the right to self-determine.
Starting point is 00:54:52 You know what I'm saying? To claim my humanity and self-determine my safety and where I can go, where my body can be, where my children can feel safe. You know what I'm saying? And I hear that in the blues. I hear that in the jazz. I hear that in, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I hear that in the blues. I hear that in jazz. I hear that in, you know what I'm saying? I hear it in all of you, you know?
Starting point is 00:55:09 Hope that answers that question. Yeah, I'm saying, I guess when you was talking, it made me feel like, damn, sometimes I guess capitalism can ruin art, right? So I wonder what's more fulfilling for you, doing something like Fruitvale Station or Black Panther? I think at the time, I've been blessed to do the most fulfilling thing
Starting point is 00:55:26 you know what i'm saying like at the time you know right i think as i think as black people we can be the hardest on ourselves when it comes to that i saw a black panther in a theater in utah where my daughter was in in treatment for from mental health and addiction. She was 16 at the time. And we were visiting her and we went to see Black Panther in a theater packed full of white Mormons watching Black Panther. And to me, that was a profound reality and impact that Ryan's work, this very
Starting point is 00:56:07 commercial, big blockbuster Marvel movie, I don't think people fully sort of understand the impact that that had on the culture and sort of changing the narrative. And, you know, changing those narratives is so important. It's important internally. Talking about trauma, trauma that's not dealt with in narrative is profound. And I think Ryan's work is doing it both in this very intimate way with an independent approach like Fruitvale Station. And on the biggest stage with these blockbusters is powerful. And I think it's also going to influence other creatives in those spaces to use their their voices and to use these stages because now we're getting more
Starting point is 00:56:49 opportunities that's why i like black panther too so much because um you know i put ryan in the same vein as like a kendrick or even a cole because even with the massive success you won't compromise your art i appreciate that bro i i just realized I didn't ask you a question, man. Like, they all are fulfilling at the time. Because I'm different each time. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:11 Like, you know, Mike Fruva, when I was 25, 37 now, I don't know if I would, I don't know if I can make that movie now.
Starting point is 00:57:20 You know what I'm saying? I don't got the optimism that I had then or the energy. You know, we met in like 20 days. We didn't sleep. You know what I'm saying? I gotta sleep now. You know what I'm saying? I don't got the optimism that I had then or the energy. You know, we met in like 20 days. We didn't sleep. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:27 I got to sleep now. You know what I mean? Like, our family now, you know, like it would have been impossible. But that was the most fulfilling thing that I could have done at that time.
Starting point is 00:57:35 I've been blessed to like do fulfilling work. You know what I'm saying? With this company, bro, it's fantastic. I get to support filmmakers' vision. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:43 Like Pete said, hey, I'm going to make a movie. We're going to make a new national anthem. I'm like, holy s***, let's do it. What do support filmmakers vision. You know I'm saying like me said I don't make a movie We're gonna make a new national anthem. I'm like, oh, let's do it. What do you need? You know, how can I help and it's been an incredible blessing man How do you keep the national anthem hopeful and empowering with so much of America's history? Being negative for the majority of groups that Been here, you know, we keep talking about we are having
Starting point is 00:58:05 these discussions about what America is. I think we know what America is. We trying to put the mirror up to them and let them see what America is.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Yeah. I mean, it's different things and different people, right? Like, and that's what's so beautiful about
Starting point is 00:58:16 the song they made was that, you know, you got four women from different backgrounds and different experiences
Starting point is 00:58:24 with the country um you know putting down verses that feel true to them that's not compromising and then when you hear it saying you know it's like you know you you identify with each with each piece because maybe it's like i don't know somebody who's indigenous well i'm not indigenous myself to this to this to this land but i know people who are you, but I know people who are. And I know people who are having issues with borders moving across them and back and forth or getting more. And when you hear the words, sing, you feel it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:54 When you hear Charity in her 20s from Nashville sing about her family in the military, that she says, like, all gave some, but some gave all. Man, you feel it. You know what I'm saying? And white people don't own the military. You know what I'm saying? I got my grandfather fought in every war that was fought
Starting point is 00:59:14 while he was alive. You know what I mean? And so when you take a step back and look at the song that they made and the process of how they made it, man, you know, the young choir sang it, man, and it works.
Starting point is 00:59:26 You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, so I think it's an incredible utility that they gave. And that's all a song is, is a utility, man. You might use it to get through some personal loss.
Starting point is 00:59:36 You might use it to do your homework. You might use it to lift at the gym. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a piece of art that's a utility. And it's up to the people to use it. You know what I'm saying? That's how you feel about a it's a piece of art that's a utility and it's up to the people to use you know what i'm saying yeah i mean i think it's just real simply empowering people to tell to tell their story you know and you know and anthems inspiring people to express their own idea of an anthem and i think hopefully this film can allow people to
Starting point is 01:00:03 recognize that sometimes we do have to put these stories that are difficult next to each other and allow the alchemy to just happen. Because we just can't ignore it. We're in a difficult time in our country right now. We're at a crossroads right now. And it could go this way. It could go that way. But the optimism, both for my own family and the generational trauma that we face, that there's a path out. You don't have to stay in that.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Yeah, well, we appreciate you, brothers, for joining us. It's the Breakfast Club. Don't forget Anthem, June 28th on Hulu. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:00:40 We got our guest co-host, Looney, with us this morning. Sir. You know him from the It's Up There podcast. Yes, indeed. How you feeling, Looney? You good? I'm good. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Blessed. Highly favored. All right. Well, let's get into it. Let's talk Jocelyn Hernandez and rumors. Rumor has it. Rumor. Rumor has it.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Call out her name or you gossiping or you chatty patting. I'm gossiping. This is the rumor report. I mean, I guess we on The Breakfast Club. This is where the tea spills, right? Yes. On The Breakfast Club. Now, Sunday night was the fight.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Floyd Mayweather versus John Gotti III. It didn't go the full distance. I mean, I'm sure you've seen it by now. It was a fight, and everybody started fighting in that arena. Not only in the ring, outside the ring, around the ring, outside, inside, backstage, front stage, left stage, right stage. Just a bunch of nigga nonsense for no damn reason. And Zeus co-signed it. Oh, they definitely co-signed it.
Starting point is 01:01:28 That's who won. That's who won the night. Yeah, so Jocelyn Hernandez was arrested after a backstage brawl. She started off fighting Big Lex, but if you've seen the video, she slapped everybody. Like, literally. Yes. Everybody. How many assault charges she got?
Starting point is 01:01:44 I don't know. But she slapped one security dude like three four times like bang bang bang she treated him like her son she said i told you to get out of my way and smacked him he had to be every bit of six eight 300 pounds he was slapping everybody so but she got arrested that's what should happen in situations like she was arrested now uh they also said that behind the scenes, and I don't know how true this is, they said that Floyd Mayweather and John Gotti spoke after the fight and after the brawl, and they squashed out everything that, I guess, the internal beef. I just don't understand the reason for Floyd Mayweather Jr. to be doing this. I understand if he wants to have exhibition matches, but why do exhibition matches on this level?
Starting point is 01:02:23 I was talking to Lo for what to looney about it and i guess they were saying that it was more than just a chat right so what i'm hearing behind the scenes is that is an equity play so what's happening is of course people are saying that zeus has around allegedly two million subscribers and i think they're giving him a piece of the equity along with a bag then in sponsorships so I'm not sure how that adds up and how that plays out. Floyd Mayweather been getting equity since he started Mayweather Promotions. Yeah, but if you got an equity in Zeus, so let's say there is 2 million subscribers and they pay, what, $5 a month? That's $10 million a month.
Starting point is 01:02:55 This is a guy that used to get $100 million a fight because of what he used to get on the back end for pay-per-view. What are we talking about? But now if he has to do nothing, he gets $30 million a year because he's an equity owner. But I'm sure he could get this doing something at a bigger level i'm saying because this because you don't want your name attached to stuff like this right right right you get in the ring you get in the ring with these amateurs like john gatti who after the bell ring still want to fight what if he just rushed your knees you know what i'm saying right if he just rushed your knees to take your knees out of somebody from his crew runs in the ring and you know does something to you
Starting point is 01:03:23 that you can't return from like He might not fight with Zeus again. He might do TV programming with Zeus. But if he owns a percentage of it and he's getting a cut of it and he's making $30 million off of it, I don't know. We don't know. I don't know what the finances is or what the method to his mind is. But I think at some point everything can be about the money. And then that's what they're doing a lot in the culture, too, is the whole equity thing. Get equity, get equity good equity and sometimes you can sell out go over here get some equity but
Starting point is 01:03:48 then crash your brand absolutely now uh john gotti the third sister i actually she took a bunch of shots he said at floyd may wait mayweather your daughter was ran through by an animal with 12 different baby mamas your little circus animal you're all a pack of zoo animals i swear on my kids i'm coming for your daughter it may be two years three years from now but i'm coming you uh word that usually uh rhymes with bunt but begins with the word c what is it i'm not gonna say it we don't need that fine we don't need that fine right so and then uh floyd sister clapped back at her nicole got it we don't need two years. We don't need that fine. So, and then Floyd's sister clapped back at her. Nicole got it.
Starting point is 01:04:26 We don't need two years. Little girl pull up with all that mouth. Floyd, you an OG, man. Your life should be about ease and peace at this stage of the game. This don't sound like ease and peace to me. Sound like a bunch of mess. It was. And Zeus, if you didn't see it, played the entire fight.
Starting point is 01:04:42 When I say they let the camera run for 20, 30 minutes with no action, it was just fight after fight after fight. So it was amazing. That seems like that's Zeus brand, though. We were saying any other network show time, they would have cut it. That's Zeus brand. Every time I see a Zeus show, it's somebody fighting on a Zeus show. Every single time. Yeah, well.
Starting point is 01:04:59 And some other news. It looks like Tyler Perry is reportedly finalizing his deal to buy bet it appears the billionaire filmmaker studio owner tyler perry is the front runner to the be the bet's next owner so let's go my dear versus jocelyn hernandez that's gonna be one of the first things we see baby let's go so it looks like he's gonna be purchasing b drop on the clues bond for tyler perry i mean did y'all think otherwise? Right. When he got in the race. He already owned a percentage of it, right? He owns 25% of BET Plus, if I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Yeah. But I mean, every program on BET right now, other than Breakfast Club, is a Tyler Perry program. Put it like, come on. Yeah, it makes sense. Does it? Yeah. Don't they got Grown-ish or Black-ish on there, though?
Starting point is 01:05:39 No, man. Reruns. Oh, reruns. That's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. That's an original program. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:44 All right. Well, that is your rumor report. Now, Charlamagne That's what I mean. Yeah. That's an original program. Right. All right. Well, that is your rumor report. Now, Charlamagne, who are you giving that down to? Before after the hour, I need one of my favorite people, Ingrid. Ingrid Newkirk, the president of PETA. She needs to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with you. Ingrid, you know you're welcome on The Breakfast Club anytime this morning, but we got to discuss
Starting point is 01:05:59 you off right now. All right. Yes. You like Ingrid. I love Ingrid. You like messing with Ingrid. Y'all have no idea. Ingrid sends me stuff
Starting point is 01:06:06 up here all the time. Ingrid's always sending me stuff from Peter. How she got my email? She sent me an email the other day. She sent us an email the other day.
Starting point is 01:06:14 I love messing with Peter. I really do. All right. All right. Let me get my carbone sauce. Hold on. Yes, I'll be back.
Starting point is 01:06:22 What? Oh my goodness. All right. It's the breakfast local morning the breakfast club your mornings will never be the same with audio titles on business career advice fitness and more audible keeps you inspired whatever you're looking for check out all the audiobooks podcasts and originals you could ever want all in one place sign up for 30 days free at audible.com slash breakfast club.
Starting point is 01:06:48 It's time for donkey of the day. I'm a democrat, so being donkey of the day is a little bit of a mixed place. So like a donkey. Donkey of the day. The breakfast club bitches. Now I've been called a lot in my 23 years, but donkey
Starting point is 01:07:03 of the day is a new one yes donkey of the day for tuesday june 13th goes to the president of peter ingrid newkirk drop on the clues bombs for ingrid newkirk ingrid ingrid doesn't even know she's really one of my favorite people i love what she stands for and what she is committed to she runs the world's largest animal rights organization and if i know her like i think i do she is probably highly offended by the fact that i use the term donkey as an insult uh as a means to give someone the credit they deserve for being stupid not because humans shouldn't be called dumb but because donkeys should not be labeled as dumb because peter opposes what it calls a speciesism or a human
Starting point is 01:07:39 supremacist worldview speciesism is the assumption of human superiority leading to the exploitation of animals i actually agree with that i do even though i do believe in the circle of life uh i promise you ingrid when that amazing piece of red snapper or maya maya is on my plate i thank god for it i don't feel superior to it at all i feel privileged and blessed to eat it that's why when it comes to red snapper i like it still with its head on and its eyes. I actually think it's disrespectful to behead a fish before you eat it. But that's another convo. Now, the reason Ingrid is getting donkey of the day this morning is because Ingrid is actually encouraging us to eat flesh. I know, Ingrid, this is not your intention, but this is what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:08:19 What do you mean, Uncle Charlotte? The president of PETA is encouraging us to eat flesh. Well, I'll tell you what I mean. I came across this New York post article with the headline peter president explains why she wants her flesh to be barbecued after she dies i just piqued the interest of all our cannibalistic listeners somewhere right now there is a cannibal listening to us eating a nice bowl of grits and legs this morning. And they're like, tell me more.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Well, Ingrid Newkirk said she updated her will to include a request for her flesh to be cooked and for her body parts to be transformed into activist messages after she dies. She's not joking. She's as dead ass as a deceased donkey. Would you like to hear her explain? Let's go to Fox News Digital for the report, please. Does it be serious? Because the issues are so serious. We see terrible things done to animals. People don't see that.
Starting point is 01:09:12 And you can't really tell people about the gore nonstop. So I thought I'll continue my activism in a provocative, gimmicky way, but making very serious points. That we're all the same under the skin, you can barbecue my flesh, and you'll smell it cooking with those onions. And you'll think, oh, I want some of that. And then you'll think, oh, no, it's her. And please don't eat any flesh. Here are the vegan alternatives, the vegan hot dogs, the vegan hamburgers, the vegan fish, the vegan steak, vegan chicken. It's all available now. And so we'd hope to change their minds without having them to put me in their mouth.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Ingrid thinks that if it's her we know we're eating or if it's her skin we know that is on these products, you know, we won't use it. I understand exactly what you're trying to do, Ingrid, but I have to let you know it's been done before. A great book to read is The Delectable Negro, Human Consumption and Homoeroticism Within U.S. Slave Culture, written by Vincent Woodward. The book breaks down human cannibalism that occurred during slavery in the United States. Yes, white male slave owners used to eat the flesh of black men. And Ingrid, I'm sure you know the flesh of dead Africans and African Americans were used to make shoes. And I'm sure you know after World War II,
Starting point is 01:10:28 it was reported that Nazis used skin from murdered concentration camp inmates to make lampshades. I'm saying all that to say, Ingrid, none of that stopped anybody from eating animal flesh or using animal products. Because if you have a hunger for flesh, human, animal, or otherwise, you're going to get your fix. And this is why I believe your plan is going to backfire.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Because, Ingrid, the way you described how you want to be cooked in the onions sounds tasty. And I promise you, if you're offering up your flesh as a meal, we're going to have a barbecue. Pete Davidson is organizing it right now. Ingrid says she wants to be cooked specifically with onions. Why stop there, Ingrid? Let's do a half cup of white onions, dill pickle slices one cup of barbecue sauce we're
Starting point is 01:11:09 gonna add about a quarter teaspoon of salt one teaspoon of sugar three tablespoons of water we're gonna get four to six inch center split white sandwich rolls and 16 ounces of uncooked ingrid meat and we're gonna make us a meal called the McPeter in your honor. It's going to look just like the McRib. Okay. When we done and believe me, sweetie, we're going to have enough to feed the needy. Ingrid, I hear you. I really do. When you say you're trying to raise the point that flesh is flesh, I get it. And you're probably right. And that's why you can't just be offering yourself up to be barbecued. Because when someone tastes you and says, tastes just like chicken now because of you, they're going to be barbecued because when someone tastes you and says tastes just like chicken now because of you they're gonna be looking for another kind of meat to be added to
Starting point is 01:11:49 the menu you can't be out here serving yourself up all barbecued and tasty expecting people not to eat you now the only difference i can see ingrid when we serve you up it's gonna have to be in slices okay can't serve you like red snapper we're gonna have to behead you that would be just a bit too much but what i'm trying to get you to understand ingrid the only thing folks care about when it comes to flesh is does it taste good we don't eat animals because we are monsters who can't control ourselves we eat animals because they are tasty at the least at least the ones i've tried i've had chicken fish turkey deer bear shoulder squirrel dumplings, of course, lamb, ox, goat, and every single one of them are tasty.
Starting point is 01:12:29 It's that simple. So, Ingrid, if you really don't want people to eat flesh, don't offer them more to put on the menu. Because if I ground you up into a patty, you're just mystery meat at that point. In fact, Ingrid, you will be impossible meat because it will be impossible for folks to tell the difference between you and every other animal product out there. Especially when I add this carbone sauce to it. You see this right here? I think you would taste great in a lasagna, Ingrid. Okay, I don't know if we should just keep it at barbecue.
Starting point is 01:13:00 I got tomato basil. I got marinara. How do you pronounce that, Envy? What is that? Abracadabra? Arabribita? Sounds right. Whatever it is, we got it.
Starting point is 01:13:09 All I'm saying is when we add this, Ingrid, you ain't going to be able to tell the difference. Please give Ingrid Newkirk, the president of PETA, the sweet sounds and the hammer tones. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw. Yee-haw. You hungry? No.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I'll pass. Okay. Actually, you still opened my mouth. You did? Wow. Hungry, though? No, sir. Okay. Not at you still opened my mouth. You did? Wow. Hungry, Lou? No, sir. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Not at all. All right. All right. Well, I guess thanks for that donkey today. Ingrid, come up here whenever you're ready. I'm going to have the chef here. You're sure? Just in case.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Just in case. I'm going to have the chef here just in case, Ingrid. All right. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Everybody on BET, we'll see you guys tomorrow. Peace, BET guys tomorrow peace BET everybody else let's open up the phone lines 800-585-1051 now uh every once in a while we see uh people asking questions on social media and this one went viral yesterday it was a gentleman asking women about would they prefer to be with a married man that tells you yes 100% of the time or I guess a man that's not married that
Starting point is 01:14:28 tells you no 50% of the time. You got the audio? Of course we do not. Married men say yes 100% of the time? No, no, no. The question was they went to a bunch of women and asked them would you rather date a married man that never tells you no or would you date a regular man that's not married that tells
Starting point is 01:14:44 you no 50% of the time? But I said married men tell time i said married men tell women well if they're being blackmailed yeah yeah i think not not on just being cool i think it's a motive to it it's definitely a motive to it i mean if a married man is telling you yes 100 of the time it's like what lou said he don't want you to go out there running your mouth right because all you're doing is asking for money that's what you really mean right when you ask for money and things. So let's open up the phone line. So there are some women out there that prefer married men. So the question is
Starting point is 01:15:11 800-585-1051. Ladies, what is it about a man being married that makes him more desirable? I'm like my pal, Asante. Nothing to do with this conversation. That is the question. Came from social media yesterday. I don't even know why you're doing this. 800.
Starting point is 01:15:26 How you told this to me? How I'm the one? You need to stop reading everything that come across the desk. That's what you need to stop doing. Okay? I don't even know what you're trying to do this for. You see, this is the problem, Looney. We agree with him.
Starting point is 01:15:38 We're like, all right, let's do it. Then when he hears it, he'll be like, why you doing this? Because here's the thing. You've been working with me for 13 years. You know I don't be paying no damn attention. I don't even know what y'all be talking about 96% of the time. Well, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 01:15:51 I'd be like, yeah. Ladies, what is it about a man being married that makes him more desirable? Close your mouth. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 01:16:11 It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our guest co-host Looney joining us today. Now, if you're just joining us, this was going around social media yesterday. And the clip was supposed to be in earlier, so the clip could explain exactly what we're talking about. But of course, nobody put the clip in. So the question is, 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Ladies, would you prefer having a married man that never tells you no, or your own man that tells you no 45% of the time? Do we still know how to clip? Yeah, we have the clip now. Do you rather deal with a married man that never tells you no,
Starting point is 01:16:47 or your own man that tells you no 45 of the time no i'm dealing with the married man no i take the marriage dude i'm sorry i'm with the marina i'm married i'm sorry tell me yes everything oh the marriage yeah give me him i will deal with my man that tell me no because i'm gonna beat him the up i'm taking the married guy because why am I with you? You keep saying no for her. I ain't going to go with the married guy. I don't like the word no, so. Charlamagne, so would you prefer a married man that tells you no?
Starting point is 01:17:16 I told you yesterday that you got to sign the don't play gay bill. Okay. I'm just asking the question. No, we have a don't play gay bill. There will be no more gay Cosroll. What is it was it the cos cosplay cosplay there'll be no more no more gay cosplay going on up here but i will say this i don't believe them stats because married men do say no and married men have no problem saying no because the side chick can take things too far and if the side chick gets upset at the married man saying no then he can always just cut her all
Starting point is 01:17:49 the way off and that's her law so i don't think any man says yes 100 of the time i actually think the highest percentage uh you're going to get to say yes is a husband husband probably say yes 80 85 of the time i think well here's the thing it's an illusion right so you can think i say yes to everything but what you've asked me for has been minimal to me right so my wife can ask me for things that inconvenience me and i still get those done when you deal with a side piece or you deal with these kind of you know straggler loans what happens is they are under the impression that you'll say yes to everything sometime just because of what you're willing to do for them um financially financially
Starting point is 01:18:31 luan brings up a good point men do things for their wives that inconvenience us we ain't never doing that inconvenience at all ever correct well let's go to the phone lines oh you don't want to participate no no i don't want to marry? No, Negro. Yeah, yeah. Get you some. No, Negro. I don't want to marry a man. What are you talking about? I'm married. What are you asking?
Starting point is 01:18:49 Answer the goddamn question. What? No. I agree. I'm a married man. Whatever my wife asks me to do, I do. Whatever I ask her to do, she does. We ain't talking about why I believe.
Starting point is 01:18:58 This question ain't about why. This question was about married men messing with shy chicks. Yeah. I don't know. You got to dip back in the old bag like me. See, I know how to dip in and out. Nope. I can have conversation based off past experiences.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Not me. I'm out. You done. I'm done. You see how he brings you? I'm done. You walking to the plane? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:19 I'm done. You set it up. I thought you had an opinion. I don't have an opinion. I'm done. I can't relate. I can't relate either. It sounds like you're relating to me. I can remember this. It thought you had an opinion. I don't have an opinion. I'm done. I can't relate. I can't relate either. It sounds like you're relating.
Starting point is 01:19:27 I can remember this. It sounds like you're relating. You all in the water. You want to put your foot in the water? Nope, I'm not even putting my toe in the water. Hello? Hey, good morning. Hey, what's your name?
Starting point is 01:19:38 Jasmine. Hey, Jasmine. Talk to us, Jasmine. You sound like you're sleeping with somebody. All right, so, I mean mean i prefer like a married you know i'm a single woman well i'm a single woman so i would prefer a married man because whenever he's not getting at home i've i've been through situations where you know they're unattracted to their wives and you know that's where the work days came about so i just feel like it's more
Starting point is 01:20:03 desirable to date and well well i wouldn't say date, but have a situationship with a married man rather than a guy that's going to taste. Another common misconception is that y'all think something would be wrong at home. There's nothing wrong at home. They just be lying to you. That's all. Whatever he's telling me on the outside. Men just be wanting their cake and eating it too.
Starting point is 01:20:22 That's all. And then why are you considering what's wrong at home? don't i mean that's between me that's right don't worry about what's going on with me and my wife no i don't i know i just i just stay in my lane i hope you can fight too because i got a homegirl man her name is uh her name is ashley james they call her aj from the we talk back podcast she says that you should always beat up the side chick because the side chick makes it possible for it to be cheating in the first place.
Starting point is 01:20:48 If women weren't cheating and being willing to be the side chick, they wouldn't have no problems. Yeah, he be looking paranoid when we like, you know, go on our co-worker bar, whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Oh, you work with this married man? Yeah. Jesus Christ, don't say that. Different department. Where you work at department where you work at where you work at though no i ain't telling you i ain't telling you all right put my name out there so so he don't he don't turn he's a white woman if he's a white woman he's a black haitian so i'm not that ain't really cheating he's just coming home you'll shut up so he tells you yes to everything mama once you go black you never go back jesus christ dr umar would be proud dr umar would say brother yes complete the assignment yes i'm not done yes i'm not done hello who's this hi good morning, what's your name? Janine Hey, Janine, talk to us
Starting point is 01:21:45 Hi, good morning, Salome, my guy, DJ Envy, all the guests today Peace, that's Loom, say what up to Loom Hey, what's up, Loom, how you doing? What's up, what's up, peace Now, you're dating a married man currently I'm dating my girl from Sumter, South Carolina I live in Plainsville right now Hey
Starting point is 01:22:02 My name's Jo, from Sumter, south carolina okay you out there that's john country yes and you're dating a married man now right i am i am and i'm a little embarrassed in that um for one it doesn't fit my it doesn't really fit my uh image uh It doesn't tie into anything that I believe in. I'm a God-fearing woman. I've been doing a lot of work on myself. Man, you ain't got to explain all this. You don't cut it out.
Starting point is 01:22:35 You got me in here smudging myself. I'm finna ask for the smudge. It doesn't fit my image. I'm a God-fearing woman. I pray every day. But these are my circumstances. I give my time to the church. When I see homeless people, I give them money.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Why are you doing what you're doing? Okay, why I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm not kind of selling my life. I didn't seek out for this. I don't look for my marriage list. I really don't. That's not what I did. But this is one thing I gotta say about
Starting point is 01:23:07 this man is that during his marriage, he's obviously been trying very well. He's a great provider. He acts as if he and I were possibly married. But at the end of the day, I realized to know
Starting point is 01:23:23 that that is not so. That his life will always be perfect and formal. And I get that. And he makes that very clear, too. But at the same time, they're out here for single men who
Starting point is 01:23:39 don't step up to the plate. Who are all over the place. You know, you have to worry about who they're sleeping with, who they're not sleeping with. This man I know is not sleeping with anybody outside of, you know, his wife or, you know, or anything else. But at the same time, it bothers, it bothers myself as well. It makes me feel as though I'm settled.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Why don't you, why don't you, why don't you put together a proposal? Oh, boy. To take to the wife and the man. What? And provide your services. Say, hey, look, I can be an addition, a help to the family. The wife don't know. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Be a sister wife. Why don't you do that? Or at least propose it. No. You put it on the table. You never know. No. You never know. Well, ask the man first before you just have a conversation with him but i don't know if you heard what she said she said that way if she's dating him she knows that he's not doing anything
Starting point is 01:24:34 but her and the wife so she knows that if she if he's doing anything it's only with the wife so he's not cheating on her that's how she feels she likes to challenge i think i'm not gonna i think she should bring a proposal to him and the wife. I think that there's a lot of situations that could be polygamous situations where people don't be wanting to open up the conversation. 800-585-1051. If you just joined us, this was going all over social media yesterday. And the question is, 800-585-1051. Ladies, would you prefer having a married man that never tells you no
Starting point is 01:25:02 or your own man that tells you no 45% of the time? Let's talk about it. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got our guest co-host, Looney. He's the host of It's Up There podcast. If you're just joining us, this was going around social media yesterday. Do you rather deal with a married man that never tells you no or your own man that tells you no 45% of the time now I take the marriage dude I'm sorry I'm with the Mary me in Mary I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:25:36 tell me yes everything I will do with my man that tell me no cuz I'm a beat him the fuck up taking the married guy because why am I with you? You keep saying no for her. I ain't going to go with the married guy. I don't like the word no, so. So we're asking 800-585-1051. Ladies, how do you feel about that? Let's go to Lauren.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Good morning, Lauren. Good morning, guys. Hello, Breakfast Club. How are you doing? I'm doing good. Which one? You dating a married man or your own man? Which one?
Starting point is 01:26:10 I'm dating a married man that will treat me well because have y'all heard of poly relationships? Yes, I just mentioned it. There's women sharing married men. Yes, there's women already sharing married men. Yeah, but does the other woman know you're sharing her man or you just do it on the side? Oh, they will know. So I'd rather have a man treat me right. That's it.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Hey, I just want y'all to know every single woman that has called up here thus far is in a relationship with a married man. Right. Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's called poly. And the wife knows about you? Yes. Do y'all sleep with each other together or just? I don't, but
Starting point is 01:26:48 some women do. So he has more than just you? Yeah. And we all good, because as long as he do what I need him to do, I don't complain. And what do you need him to do? Financially? Pay your bills? It don't have to be financial. Because I have my own job. I work. I'm a
Starting point is 01:27:03 truck driver. He gives me the love the attention affection we go on dates he's romantic that's just all i need okay you in your truck now no not right now i was glad you blow the horn that's all that's all right mama thank you hello who's this yo what's up this is me um and my opinion is women need to speak and choose you can deal with a single man that's all yours that you think is all yours or if you deal with a married man just know your place and know your lane i don't like these new chicks they out here want to be side chicks they want to go and burst the wife and go and you know like girl be a mistress be a mystery be in your place like real talk like or you could have a man that's all yours
Starting point is 01:27:55 that's supposed to be single but he's around on you at least with the married man you know just put yourself in a position to say look i'm number two because you got to know that his wife is number one and you're not supposed to ever try to go up against that bitches want to fall in love with a married man like you stupid like dude you can't do that you talk that talk boo you tell him i don't know what the hell is going on at first go ahead no i was like we solicited these calls so i can't be upset but god dang every woman is with it yeah first i was thinking like yo maybe that because when you run up on people in the middle of the street they kind of know it's for tiktok they kind of put a little cap on the answer yeah but for these calls to be coming in and co-signing and i'm saying wow
Starting point is 01:28:40 wow you're kind of crazy mary yes good morning Good morning, Mary. Talk to us, Mary. Good morning. How are y'all? Doing well. Good. I do not agree with the women saying the married man. To me, my morals cannot do it. I have friends that have gone down that line, and to me, the emotional stress, the mental
Starting point is 01:29:01 stress is not worth it. Even though he's going to be telling you yes, when you want somebody by your side, he's going to probably be over there with his wife. Like, there's going to be some conflicts at times where you can't get a yes all the time. So we got to consider that, too. I agree with you. And I want you to know, you're the first woman to call up here this morning that's against it. Are you serious?
Starting point is 01:29:23 Yes. No, it is not worth it, ladies. Like, it's that's against it. Are you serious? Yes. No. It is not worth it, ladies. It's seriously not worth it. You got to think about the other woman too. I couldn't do it, but before I get off of that, would y'all mind if I give my son a birthday shout
Starting point is 01:29:38 out? He's 16. Of course. Okay, I want to just give Jamin a shout out. I love you. I hope you have an amazing birthday I hope you've enjoyed your trip down here At Margaritaville And we have one more gift to give you When you get back home
Starting point is 01:29:51 Hey I was in Margaritaville Y'all in Orlando? No we're in the one in Biloxi Oh okay okay I was in Margaritaville in Orlando A couple months ago Well enjoy alright
Starting point is 01:29:59 And y'all be safe out there Yeah Thank you so much Y'all have a good day You too What's the moral of the story guys? Stop humping on that woman's husband too what's the moral of the story guys stop humping on that woman's husband all right that's the moral of the goddamn story stop humping on that woman's husband unless that woman knows about it if y'all got some type of arrangement or agreement cool if y'all got some type of polynesian sauce situation
Starting point is 01:30:17 going down cool other than that stop humping on that woman's husband because that woman gonna beat you up all right when we come back we're, we're going to discuss YNW Melly. He was in court yesterday, and there's a lot going on. We'll break it down. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 01:30:32 We are The Breakfast Club. We got our co-host, Looney, here. Sir. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk YNW Melly. Rumor has it. Rumor. Rumor has it.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Call out a name, or you gossiping, or you chatty-patty. I don't gossiping. This is The Rumor Report. I mean, I guess we on The Breakfast Club. This is where the tea spills, right? Yes. rumor rumor has it call out a name or you gossiping or you chatting this is the rumor report i mean i guess we on the breakfast club this is where the tea spills right yes on the breakfast club now y and w melly uh of course is a rapper he's on trial right now for double murder the 24 24 year old faces two counts of murder for the 2018 shooting deaths of uh his peoples at the time, Chris Thomas, 20, and Anthony Williams, 21. Now, allegedly, they're saying that YMW insists that the two died in a drive-by shooting, but prosecutors are saying that didn't happen, and they believe that possibly YMW was the
Starting point is 01:31:18 one that did the shooting. So yesterday was day one in the trial, and it was all over the place. It was all over the place it was all over the place at one point they're saying after the shooting ym ymw melly ymw melly uh hit up frederic frederic bang and told him he needed to be picked up and he pinned his address there's a lot going on we're here from the prosecutor and then we'll ask looney to break some of this down asking if mr demons is good after he's been tagged in multiple social media posts about this driver, this shooting. And Mr. Demons responds very succinctly, I did that.
Starting point is 01:31:53 So what you're also going to find out is while Mr. Demons is out there on the side of the road, 4 in the morning, he sends a drop pin, digital homing beacon, to his current location, to one of his friends frederick gibbons and he asked to be picked up frederick gibbons then about 11 minutes later is sending another drop pin yes a lot going on so so what did you get out of this i know you was watching this case yesterday yes my my um opinion on it as far as what I was looking at, the prosecution is presenting a very crazy case, right? They're alleging that he shot his own friends, of course, but I just think all the evidence is circumstantial. The only damaging part that I think I felt they presented was when Fredo Bang or whoever was reaching out to YNW Melly him saying I did that they have no gun they have you know the evidence in my opinion is just scarce so I don't
Starting point is 01:32:52 see what's happening um what's your opinion on the show I don't know nothing about what the young boys got going on I just saw I saw him say that he got a bunch of uh he hear a bunch of different voices in his head or something I saw that when he interviewed with nyla uh some some years ago now here's the thing all of that i think will play into um how the prosecution tries to paint him to the jury is that some of these videos some of these lyrics some of these things he's said are popping back up but as far as evidence in this case i thought i saw they had him i heard you say that just now but i thought i saw they said uh they saw him communicating via snapchat a dm that he did it yeah yeah i don't know bro right and it's it's a very vague thing like i did that in response to like the the prosecution said this the context
Starting point is 01:33:36 is important she says that when he said i did that it was in response to someone saying are you okay so in her opinion that places him as the person that did it sure that could be that could be a verse that's like i mean you could be replying like somebody posted your song you might reply back i did that yeah and then you got you got also other people uh the other guy who they are trying to lean on for reasonable doubt is saying that um he sold his instagram account allegedly there's a lot happening on that instagram account that has to do with the murder but he said i sold it for 20 i don't know who i sold it to yeah i don't know who i sold it to and the prosecution let him go so y and w melly
Starting point is 01:34:17 uh lawyer is saying hey they should have looked into that guy a little bit more like if you're looking for a suspect of a murder you don't just pin it on the first person so i don't know what's going on i'm just trying to get my cholesterol down it's down now i'm just trying to keep it down that's all i'm trying to do all right also nini league posted yesterday that uh her and her boyfriend it seems like uh it's over it's a wrap now you know her boy i need to get my fan yeah get your fan for this to get my fan out for this you're out here talking about people relationships yeah now the african brother that's been up here pretty cool dude
Starting point is 01:34:45 that ran into him in Atlanta he does suits he wanted to do a suit for me and you he said that their romance is ended you remember when she was up here she talked
Starting point is 01:34:52 about how she actually enjoyed being with an African who are you attracted to Nene Yanni's T.O. that's your fiance or something
Starting point is 01:35:01 I don't know no that's my boyfriend that's your boyfriend okay so you were attracted to him how much did he have to buy before he got... Not a lot. What was it?
Starting point is 01:35:11 A dinner? A vacation? No, but he gave gifts too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come here. Is that the smooth brother in the corner with the accent? Yes. Smooth brother with the accent?
Starting point is 01:35:19 Yeah, that brother's smooth. That brother got leather pants on at six in the morning. He ain't playing. When I saw him walk in this morning... Hey, Lala was up here last week, and Lala said, you got to get you an African man, because them African men spend that bag.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Remember she said that last week? She did say that. African guys, you know, I would say they do take care of their lady, but, you know, one and done for me. Like, you know, if something happened with us, I would never date another African. Damn.
Starting point is 01:35:42 The whole continent? Damn. NeNe built the wall around the whole continent ofrica whoa because things didn't work out yeah she posted a narcissist is the devil so that's what she posted all right and that is your rumor reports hey listen salute to my guy looney too man if you've never listened to the it's up there podcast with looney you need to uh some of the best conversations in regards to the world of podcasting and just the world of media. Some of the best conversations with artists and entrepreneurs. Looney's having all those convos.
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Starting point is 01:36:56 Looney, man, we appreciate you for joining us this morning, brother. No problem, man. Bless him. And listen, make sure you go subscribe to the It's Up There podcast via the Black Effect and iHeartRadio. Yes, Lord. Where are you based out of, Looney? Nashville. Nashville.
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Starting point is 01:37:38 lotus flower bomb jeremiah birthday sex and beyonce drunk in love so all you got to do is go to our socials right now to vote for the song that you want to hear and then tune in friday to hear if your song was chosen my plan is all about having control get exactly what you want only pay for what you need or on the network you want that's for rosin and when we come back we got the positive notice to breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club all right we got a shout to ryan coogler and peter nicks for joining us this morning you can check out anthem in uh i would say in theaters on hulu june 28th it's crazy we had ryan coogler up here we was having such a good conversation about anthem and you know
Starting point is 01:38:19 just things going on in black uh culture and things going on with us as men we didn't even talk about any Marvel. No Marvel news at all. We did a little bit and he kind of went right back to Anthem. So shout out to Ryan Coogle and Peter Nix. Also, have you tried to watch USFL yet?
Starting point is 01:38:38 Have I tried to what? Watch USFL. Is that a rapper? No, it's the football league, man. Oh, no, I never watched that. Why? It's good? You know what? It's kind of hard now because basketball season's over. Baseball, we're not at the playoffs yet. There's no football, so this is the time
Starting point is 01:38:54 where it's like... It's that funky time. It's that funky time. It's like the Goochers sport. It's like that... At least the Gooch feels good. What are you talking about? It's that runway between your ass cracking your balls. I know what it is. That's where we at. Yeah, and it's bad.
Starting point is 01:39:06 I tried to watch you at SFL over the weekend, and there's nobody in the stands. It just doesn't. It just doesn't. Ain't no energy. No energy. Just don't feel right. All right. Well, you got a positive note for the people, Charlamagne?
Starting point is 01:39:17 I do, man. The positive note is simply this, and I've literally stayed away from people who do this my whole life, but stay away from people who talk bad about people they still hang around. Okay, think about it, all right? If they talk bad about their so-called friends, how do you think they speak about you? Facts. Breakfast Club, bitches! Y'all finished or y'all done?

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