The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Shannon Sharpe’s $10M Settlement Plan, Ms. Tina Knowles on Cancer & Mathew’s Infidelity + Devi Brown & Alencia Johnson Interview

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Devi Brown joins us to talk about achieving higher consciousness, embracing grief, and developing self-mastery. Plus, Alencia Johnson stops by to discuss her book Flip the Tables, political disruption, reciprocity, and why she quit therapy. And in ‘Donkey of the Day,’ Charlamagne calls out the Trump administration for seizing wages, pensions, and tax refunds to repay student loans. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo Good morning y'all. Charlamagne and Envy are stuck behind a dump truck somewhere and they should have left home like 10 minutes earlier, but it's okay because sometimes I be late too. It don't matter. It don't matter. How was your night last night? My night was great. Shout out to 63 Auto Spot. They took me out to dinner with Porsche and we were having some great conversations and some great food.

Oh, okay. So that's all? Yeah. That's all I can say right now. It wasn't a date? It wasn't a date? Oh, no, no, no. It wasn't a date. I was going to say, did you sound like me or someone? They's what's up. Yeah, you're about to be a mechanic too girl You know, I can't do these nails. I'm just saying Mechanic outfit you look nice Set it off. Yeah

I'm not to be you know, just don't bring work. Look at Eli. He's so high He's telling me I look like set it off every time I wear this Milano outfit But he said he gave you queen with TV He shouldn't have did that and my wig isah, he ain't shitting in the dead. And my wig is on, and I didn't have the braids. He can't even see your braids. Yeah, well yesterday, you know the weather was nice, me and my man took our daughter out for the first time, well not the first time, I didn't like Shane never been out,

but to the farmer's market. Like we had her in the stroller strolling around and she was like looking out the stroller, she was chilling and it was a whole dope time. We got some fruits and vegetables, you know, that is very much on brand for my man, yo. Like he loved doing that, he loved planting and growing and all that type of stuff. So yeah, it was a nice little, and then we of course had to have a drink somewhere. We went to a local, I love local eatery, it's a spot in Jersey City. It's lit. You gotta go. Oh yeah, I gotta figure that out. I never been there before. I'm cracking up. You talking about she was looking around the shoulder like she ain't been nowhere.

No, I know. We just the first time was actually having her at a farmer's market. Like people close to her can see her walk up on her and stuff like that. So it was, it was a nice experience. Now, you're trying to hide it from us. You know what? I already deal with that from these two niggas up here. Yo, do not be in on the ice stuff with my daughter. Cause they not gonna get her. This is the first time we open the show together.

I know, right? Yeah. Ain't it crazy? Over here sweating bullets cause I don't know what to say next. Anyway, oh yeah, it is Wednesday. It's Wednesday so it's hump day. Yeah. Hump day.

What y'all done made do? Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha podcast with the Black Effect Heart Network you know something something something or another and then also later in the show we got Alyssia Johnson also with a new book these authors I tell you it's called flip the tables the everyday disruptors guide to finding courage and making change and it's out now as well and we got front page news cracking off and Mimi Brown is here because Morgan is out so we're gonna get the show cracking and we'll be right back after this Yeah, that's right Morning everybody is TJ and V Jess hilarious. Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club. We are here. Yes

Yeah, I'm telling on the garbage trucks this morning I mean, there's nothing you can do when things are out of your control Yeah, but you know if you're in New York City where we from, NYC 311 is the number to report to garbage trucks. You do know that. Damn! That was disrespectful this morning. Anytime you get stuck behind the garbage trucks and they just disrespectful like that,

I know everybody start blowing their horn. I don't, because there's nothing you can do in that situation. But if they don't have no regard for people that gotta get to go where they gotta go and they taking their slow time, report them. A couple minutes I understand, but- 10?

Literally Charlamagne and I was between 10 and 15 minutes. We were behind the truck. And you two blocks away from work? We two blocks away from work. Come on man. 15 minutes, we stuck. Come on man. NYC 311, you don't know if people in emergencies

and they sick trying to get to the hospital, you don't know what it is. Report them garbage trucks that do that. And they was taking their sweet time, man. Oh my God. I'm sitting there, yeah. Wow. I would've called ICE on them if I, if I, I would've called.

First of all, a lot of dump truck workers are black. They're not Mexican, don't ever. I would've called ICE on him if I, if I, I would've called ICE. First of all, a lot of dump truck workers are black, they're not Mexican, don't ever do that. Sure, but I was just thinking about somebody I could call in that moment, that's what made me Google and find out about NYC 311. Because in that moment, I was just like, Yo, you literally Googled who to call on the dump truck.

Yes, we were there for 15 minutes, it was nothing to do. It was disrespectful. It was nothing to do. I wasn't even thinking about me, I was just thinking, what about anybody else that might be sick or trying to get to the hospital trying to get to work? It was just bad. Well alright, well let's get in some front page news. Let's start off with some quick sports. Now last night the Lakers tied the series. They beat the Timberwolves 94-85.

Thunder beat the Grizzlies 1-18-99. They lead the series 2-0 and the Pacers beat the Bucs 1-23-1-15. They lead that series in the playoffs. What's up, Mimi? What's up, y'all? Good morning. How y'all doing? Good morning. Peace, Mimi. Good morning, good morning.

All right, well, let's start with something that is about to hit people in their pockets. The Trump administration says it will resume debt collection for people who have defaulted on their federal student loans starting May 5th. Now student loan goes into default if you hadn't made a payment in about 270 days or approximately around nine months.

The Department of Education says this will apply to all federal loan types, including direct loans, Perkin loans, federal family education loans. So right now, more than 5 million people are already in default and another 4 million people are close to it. That means nearly 9 million borrowers could soon face really serious consequences. In a press conference, Press Secretary Caroline Levitt explained how the administration plans

to move forward with collections. Let's hear what she had to say. Borrowers will now be clearly expected to repay their loans and those who default on their loan obligations will face involuntary collections. The government can and will collect defaulted federal student loan debt by withholding money from borrowers, tax refunds, federal pensions, and even their wages. Yeah, I thought they already did that. I know for a fact when I had school loans and I got a tax refund,

they automatically took that to pay the school loans. So I thought that was already done. Well, you know what, they started it, they put it back into session like right around COVID. So they haven't pressed or went after student loan borrowers since before the COVID-19 crisis. And so now the Trump administration says it will start sending out notices later this summer informing those who have defaulted on their student loans about their wage garnishment. They can take up to 15% of your check. Again, all this starts on May 5th. And if you think you might be in default, the administration, they recommend you contacting

the Student Aid Default Resolution Group. You may be able to get back on track by making a monthly payment, enrolling in an income-driven repayment plan or applying for a loan rehabilitation, but this is about to hit millions of people in about a week and a half. Hey, if you voted for Trump because of the economy, if you voted for Trump because he was going to put more money in your pockets, you've got to be rethinking that decision at this point. Of course.

I mean, dang it. It ain't even been 100 days. Lord have mercy. You're right, but when we have school loans, right, and when you graduate, you have to look for a job, and then it gives you a certain amount of time to find a job, and then nine times out of ten, that job can't pay for your rent. If you have a car, you're eating, and then to pay that school loan, there's no possible way.

You can't afford to pay all those things. Yeah, and if inflation is high, if people are losing their jobs, if tariffs got the cost of goods high, where people gonna get this money from? Exactly. What wages you gonna garnish? I ain't got nothing.

You just gonna mess up my credit, but I can't pay you, because it's either my rent or it's gonna pay these school loans. And which one you gonna pay? And if you got kids, I gotta put food on the table, I'm gonna pay these school loans.

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Oh, all right, well, that is front page news. Mimi, we'll see you next hour. All right, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. 800-585-1051. Maybe you're driving to work, you're about 15 minutes, 20 minutes from work and then you got stuck behind a garbage truck.

We were not no 15, 20 minutes from work. We was three minutes from work. I know, but we were two blocks away. I know. Damn it, man. Whatever it is, get it off your chest. Call us up right now. Phone lines are wide open.

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He's Ebony. Good morning. What's up? Okay, so I'm calling from Thay of North Carolina. I'm calling to get off my chest in reference to what y'all was talking through good morning. Get up your chest. Peace, Ebony. Good morning. What's up? Okay, so I'm calling from Fayetteville, North Carolina. I'm calling to get off my chest in reference to what y'all was talking to about this morning. The student loans?

I'm one of those, yes. I'm one of those people that is like still in distress. I'm a single mom, I graduated from college, not even using anything for my degree, by the way. I'm driving trucks now. I went and got my C.E.L., probably made more money in the last four years doing this than I ever would have made with that piece of paper. Oh, you carry it.

I love to hear that. That's dope. But the student loan is about to kill me. Like I'm struggling taking care of the student I got by myself. Daycare is stupid high. I moved my cousins in New York to come stay with me just to help me with that. And I'm working 60 hours a week to maintain the bills that I got. Like you said, I got a car, I got rent, still trying to buy a house.

And now that Dr. Barnard's wages for student loans are something that I'm not going to pay for, I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to pay for it.

I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to pay for it. I'm going 60 hours a week to maintain the bills. But like you said, I got a car, I got rent, still trying to buy a house. And now the doctor garners wages for student loans on something that I'm not even using. And that's what I was saying. It's like they got to come up with a better way because I can barely pay my rent, barely pay my car, no barely put food on the table. If I have a child got to pay daycare and then you're going to garnish 15%?

That's impossible. You can't do that. It's crazy. I don't even know how we wanna make it. Like I'm sprayed with the gas every week. So I drive an hour to work at a day and now I gotta pay, I gotta worry about you taking a 15% for school?

That we're not even, oh my God. In a lot of countries, school is free. Education is free. You're right. That is very true. You know what, man, I really do hope that people realize elections have consequences. And, you know, I'm not sitting here saying that, you know, the economy was any better

when the Biden administration was in, but it was a little bit better than this. And I don't know if people know that if you get married to somebody and they have school loans, their school loans are now your school loans. So if you get married to somebody and you get some money back on taxes, they take that money to pay your partner's school loan. Ask me how I know. Because when I got married, Gia had school loans. I did my taxes and I thought I was getting money back.

Nah, right to the school loans. Her school loans. Yes, absolutely. Well, I need to see if Chris finished Iowa State because I don't know. I only went for like one semester, but I ain't got paid that back if you only went for one semester. Yes, you do. Yes, if you went you went you gotta pay. Maybe it's one semester. I sold crack. But you ain't got paid nothing. Good morning. Hello, who's this?

This is anonymous in Jersey. I don't know who's listening so. What do you mean? Millions of people. But you can give a fake name. Nobody can see you man. Yeah, Melissa. Tasha, Tasha. Hey Tasha. What's up Tasha? Millions of people you can give a fake name is like nobody can see you man. You're Melissa Tasha So I'm mad because I am tired I work three jobs, I'm not a single parent but I'm tired Right I am praying for you. Absolutely. And you know, there's nothing anybody can do about this situation at the current moment and the gap between the haves and the have-nots is so wide in this country, man.

And people are just trying to make it every day. And it feels like these people that are in positions of power these rich folks these elected officials they do not care about you know uh people that are not in the same tax bracket as them it doesn't even make sense between this and even the late fees with credit cards right people are usually late it's because they're trying to figure it out or they're waiting for their next check they're gonna bring back the high rates for for being, which affects nobody like you said to have. It makes no sense.

No it doesn't. And I can't never get through to fix my mask. Oh man, oh man. This is the mask. It's not nothing like I'm cheating or nothing. It's just my husband and my mother be bumping heads because we all live together and I do not know what to do. Well hold on, hold on Tasha.

Hold on Tasha, hold on, hold on, hold on. We're gonna put you on hold. We're gonna have Jess hold you down in a second, okay? Okay. I just wanted to record this short and not to make this political man, but you know Trump promised to make the economy better on day one.

Like if you ran on things like groceries, which he said, he said he won the election because of groceries. If you ran on that, then you have to come in and immediately try to bring some type of relief. He's come in and just immediately hurt people even more. Right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Yo, what's up, bro? Get it off your chest. Yeah, I just, I mean, honestly, I want to talk about this whole studio thing. Go ahead, talk to us, bro. I just, I don't understand how y'all get on the radio. Specifically, Charlamagne.

And y'all are on the radio, and you're on the radio, and you're on the radio, and you're on the radio. And you're on the radio, and you're on the radio. And you're on the radio, and you're on the radio. And you're on the radio, and you're on the radio. And you're on the radio, and you're on the radio. And you're on the radio, and you're on the radio. And you're on the radio, and you're on the radio. And you're on the radio, and you're on the radio. And you're on the radio, and you're on the radio. And you're on the radio,'all be on the radio, specifically Charlamagne. Y'all have people scared out here about what's really going on.

I just don't appreciate it. If you borrow money, why shouldn't you have to pay it back? I don't understand that. Nobody's saying you don't have to pay it back, but if we're getting a loan from the government and times are hard and times are bad, nobody's saying they're not have to pay it back, but if we're getting a loan from the government and times are hard and times are bad, nobody's saying they're not going to pay it back. But if you're going to start garnish my wages and I can't pay for my rent, you're going to start garnishing my wages and I can't put food on the table. If you're going to garnish my wages and I can't pay for my rent.

Not just wages. That's not the taxpayers fault. But not just wages. That's not the taxpayers fault that we decided to get along with and we can't afford to pay it back. We gotta stop pushing this This uh, not taking accountability. No, nobody's that nobody's doing not taking accountability on the radio City city, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question Cuz it's his administration doing it. It's his department of education.

When the automotive industry was going down and the automotive industry couldn't pay anybody and was defaulting on their loans, the government helped them out, right? When the airlines were messed up and they couldn't pay their loans back and they were messed up, the government helped them out. When all these billion dollar companies are messed up,

the government helps them out. All we asking for is a little help. Nobody saying nobody gonna pay them back, right? When all these billion dollar companies are messed up, the government helps them out. All we asking for is a little help. Nobody saying nobody gonna pay them back, but just help out. Just look for the common people when they know things are F'd up right now. And brother, can I ask you a simple question? You told me not to blame Trump,

but the Trump administration announced Monday they're the ones who are resuming the debt collections for federal student loan borrowers. So who else am I supposed to blame? Absolutely, because again, we have to start taking accountability for the choices that we make. We can't sit here and take out federal funds and then not expect to have to pay it back.

That's why American people don't do that. That's why, tell the people that. Time out, did you hear what Envy just said? When these big corporations need bailouts, when they take out big loans and they You're not making no sense You're one of those people who came up you care more about the rich than you do everyday working class You can't you care more about the rich than you do everyday working class people. You're rich, stop telling people you're not rich. You're rich. You get on here and say completely different things than what you say on the brilliant idiots.

Stop it. You know why? You know, listen, I care about everyday working class people because those are the people that listen to the radio everyday. You said you wasn't rich? You don't keep the same energy on the podcast with shows. I'm doing okay. Keep that same energy that you keep on the podcast with shows. I don't talk no different than on on breakfast

but this is what you don't understand city light you know it that's a damn lie you ain't never heard me think I will always be here for the working class bro you can get on here and cap all you want to I'm city light from Florida alright I'm outta here bro bye he doesn't understand. Yes, I might be okay now, but I was in the same situation that all these people were years ago.

Absolutely. I was the one that was working. My dad, I say, is a retired police officer. We didn't have a lot of money growing up, but every little bit mattered. And for all these people out there, every little bit matters. Like you cannot do this to people where people are hurt, they're struggling, they can't, they gotta make a decision to pay rent or to pay school loans.

They gotta make a decision to buy eggs or to pay school loans a daycare. It ain't right when the government helps so many people and helps so many nations. Hope home. That's what I'm saying. And you know what's so great? It's not even that they just doing garnishing wages.

They're doing that to pensions and tax refunds. So how can any person ever get a freaking, a step forward in this country? They just raised the late fees for the credit cards again. Like it's crazy. You can't do that to people that are struggling. You just can't. You can't.

You gotta have a heart. Lord of Biggie Smalls is mad. He was so mad. He doesn't make no sense. No he didn't. He said I'm blaming trustee and that's why I don't even like to be, I don't even like to say politics

because people think you on the side. The Trump administration is the one who's doing this. So who else we supposed to blame? Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. When we come back, we got the latest with Lauren. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Morning everybody, it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious. Charlamagne the guy, we are The Breakfast Club. Good morning! What's happening? And let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren be coming with straight facts. Tell her! Tell her! She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.

She gets the details. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. She be having the latest on this. The latest on this. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes she have facts, sometimes she have details, sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Well, it now know that Shannon Sharp did try to settle with his accuser for at least $10 million. This was revealed yesterday by his attorney in a phone call that they had with a bunch of different media outlets

But prior to this phone call and I believe what sparked the phone call was the fact that there was this audio released by TMZ But in the audio is a phone call between the accuser and Shannon sharp. Let's take a listen to the phone call I don't know anything. I say you're just gonna like get mad at and you're just gonna hang up on me So I feel like I'm gonna go hang up on you. Yeah, what is it? What does that even mean? You want to be a bitch to me now, so I don't want to be don't manipulate me I don't know that mercy if you sit down one more time. I'm gonna choke the shit out of you that I see you. Thank you well, I don't... You don't what?

Well, I don't want to be choked. Yes, you do. I don't think you have a choice in the matter. How old is that girl? You said what? How old is she? She's in her early 20s now. So like what, 21, right? 21? Yeah, she was in 2023, she was 19, so.

Like, so she's like 21, 22? Yeah So she looks like she's like 12, 13. I have not seen the picture. Show just her. Oh wow. Show another photo. Oh my God. You gonna have to call Liza in a minute. She's on her way to class right there.

She does. She does look like a young college student. She's gonna get detained on the way to class. She looks like a college student. So what happened was after this audio was released College students. She's gonna get detained on the way to class. She looks like a college student. Oh wow. Yeah. So what happened was after this audio was released, at the same time, literally like moments apart, Shannon Sharp then released a video statement. And in the video statement, he is addressing-

She's 22, by the way. 22 now. He's addressing what he believes is about to happen, but he doesn't address the audio. Let's take a listen to his video that he posted, Shannon Sharp. This is a shakedown. This is all being orchestrated by Tony Buzzbee who was targeted jay-z Tony Buzzbee targets black men And I believe he's going to release a 30-second clip of a sex tape that tries to make me look you Yo keep up is it's your boy bomb Han and I'm bringing you something epic Introducing the k-factor the podcast that takes you straight into the heart of K-pop.

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And play into every stereotype you could possibly imagine. That video should actually be 10 minutes or so. Hey Tony, instead of releasing your edit, put the whole video out. I don't have it or I would myself. You know what happened and you're trying to manipulate the media. The encounter in question took place during the day at her invitation, and now that appears to be a deliberate setup. Coordinated by Gabby, also known as Carly on OnlyFans,

Gabby and Tony Busby want $50 million. What they're getting is soo for defamation and trying to take me down. My career is all about real talk and honesty, and I'm going to be out there telling you whatever I need to say, just like I always do. I love all you guys. You know, it is a shakedown, it is a targeted attack,

but Shannon needed to have some accountability because he gave them something to shakedown. He gave them something to target by making poor choices. Yeah. And when he, so basically when he mentioned her name and the fact that she's the only fans girl, people went and looked her up. So that's how her photos begin to surface.

Now on this phone call that his attorney had with the media, the phone call, the attorney, Shannon Shrupp's attorney addresses that audio that we heard first. And what he says is that Shannon spoke in the heat of the moment and did not literally mean the words. Then they start having conversations about, you know, the different text messages that have been released. And I printed out the text messages for you guys. Now, one of the things that I want to point out here, because basically what Shannon is saying is that there's this video that's about to come out They ask people on this phone call with the media to not judge because it's going to be in an edited format allegedly

And so you won't get the full context but Shannon had said earlier in his statement the first statement He released that there were things that he was doing almost like role play that was he says that this was at the woman's request. And from the look of these text messages, so there's two sets of them. The first text message that was that came out, Gabby, who's the woman the accuser. This is from January 2nd, 2025. And this is when she says that she was sexually assaulted. So she's texting him and she's saying that she had cried when he left because she had asked him to put on a condom and she had begged him to not put it in her behind. But he didn't listen and she said that she doesn't care what their history is, no means no, right? Then she's like, I don't know how to process this. And then they're

like, you know, can I call you later? I guess, can they talk later? But then in other text messages, you see the conversation. It goes from that to her sending text messages that say, I want to be abused daddy. I want like some hardcore BDSM action though. So then she says, I want you to tie me up like this and abuse me daddy. And you can see when these text messages were released, you can see it says like from Gabby to owner. So it's painting a picture that their relationship was giving that, you know, there were role playing everything that were happening. Now, this is a very unfortunate situation.

It's a horrible situation. Shannon Sharpe and his lawyer have handled this whole situation terribly. First of all, if you're saying this, Sharpe, you shouldn't be saying anything. No, you shouldn't. But me and this young woman got audio, video, and text messages. If you know all of those things are out there, you should shut the F up and continue to allow your lawyer to do his job. And your lawyer said out of his own mouth that you was close to a $10 million settlement

with that girl. That right there is all the more reason to shut the F up. I'm not here to speak to Shannon's guilt or innocence because I don't know, but I do know attempting to settle looks like an admission to guilt because I'm not settling. Yeah, or you're just scared. Honestly, you're just probably scared. I'm with you, Charlie, man. I feel like he's being advised wrong, right?

And you know, when people go through this, they go to an attorney because the attorney usually knows what's best for them. They usually know what to do and in this situation, like any attorney would say, shut the F up and let's deal with it in Court let's deal with facts because you can't change public opinion unless it's in court with facts now But one thing I would say if somebody said this but I cried when you left because I begged you to put a condom on And you put it in my and you didn't listen I don't care what our history is if that didn't happen. I'm gonna be like what the hell are you talking?

Yeah, nah, we agreed on this I'm not gonna be like I'll call you later cuz I'm feeling like this is a setup right here Absolutely soon as you text me this I'm gonna feel a little nobody's just gonna respond. I'll call you later You can be like what the hell are you talking about? We both agreed to this, you know, like this is part of the game Like nobody's gonna respond with that which scares me But like Charlamagne said shut the f up let it let the facts play out in court because right now all this talking is doing Too much audio and it's making it worse

out on court because right now all this talking is doing too much audio and it's making it worse. Yeah, even audio and she was like, yeah, you're manipulating me. Like even that would have been like, oh no, okay. I see what this is. You know what I'm saying? They were role playing. But when you have changed that right, right from the door, what are you talking about? Like, no, no, no.

Like, let's not play this game. Are you taping me? Because last night we was good with this. Like my opinion. Well, his attorney is saying that these text messages only show that the woman in question likes and asks for fantasy role playing and other forms of unusual sexual behavior. And they shut down the idea that, you know, they're still denying any sexual assault allegations or anything of that nature.

I did reach out to attorney Busby though, because that audio we listened to, it wasn't in full. It was like a minute, a little bit over a minute. And I'm like, yo, why would you only release that? And he said to me, he said, I'm not trying this case in the press. We released this only because Shannon Sharp's lawyer chose to attempt to discredit and dox Jane Doe

by releasing multiple texts with no context. Did they release the entirety of the texts surrounding the ones from yesterday, which were the original texts in Shannon Sharp's statement? The audio is very clear of the situation and speaks for itself. So I know one thing if you're 54 you have no reason to be talking to a 19 year old. She's 22 now Shannon is 56. I'm so glad that audio of Monique went viral yesterday because it's true. Sit your old ass down and go find somebody your age and build a family with them. As I said yesterday men we need stability and we need D discipline right you gotta have D discipline but see yeah but if he

does not want because some people don't want families they're not built for that but just find somebody in your age bracket. Yes apparently he already tried that you know what I mean the family thing or whatever but yeah he just needs somebody his age. Has she seen all seasons of the wire? Excuse me he doesn't know she did. Does she know any Scarface albums? She doesn't do any. She don't even know what the hell it is what it is man. She said what does that even mean?. You know what I'm saying? But I have a 23 year old daughter. Like that's crazy. And this girl looks young. She looks young.

She looks like she's on campus at University of Miami or like she looks young, young, young. Well, we got to wrap up. We did have the Monique audio, but we do have to wrap up. So I mean, yeah, this is all the updates so far in this situation. And I will say too, they said that they were surprised that they were in the middle of the mediation and then the lawsuit dropped. So I don't know if that's why they're responding so frantically and not making sense about their responses.

But definitely seems scared. Yeah. So in conclusion, in the middle of mediation, to put out a press release that you're looking to sign a deal for a hundred million dollars was not so silly. Because if I'm in the middle of mediation, I hear you about the sign a hundred million dollar deal What are you gonna do? Oh, I'm gonna pull out and wait for you get that deal and I'm gonna ask for more money If that's the case, I have not seen a team handle something so poorly in a long time the way Shannon and his team Crazy. All right

All right. Well, thank you for the ladies with Laura now when we come back we got front page news Mimi will be joining us, Morgan is out. And then we have Debbie Brown joining us. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out The Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody. It's DJ NV, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.

We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Start off with some quick sports. Lakers beat the Timberwolves. They tied the series last night, 94-85. The Thunder beat the Grizzlies, 118-99. They lead the series to nothing. And the Pacers beat the Timberwolves, they tied the series last night 94-85. The Thunder beat the Grizzlies 1-18-99, they lead the series to nothing and the Pacers beat the Bucks, they lead that series to nothing. What's up Mimi? What's up y'all? All right well let's start in Florida where GOP rep Byron Donalds got an earful at a town hall earlier this week. The crowd wasn't shy about pressing him

on the Trump administration and its controversial plans for the Department of Government Efficiency. He was asked as a member of the Oversight Committee, what oversights was he proposing on Donald Trump and Elon Musk? Let's hear what he had to say. I like how everybody's shouting at me, the black guy on the stage with a microphone on his head saying, have you read this book, read this book, read this book, read this book? Don't marginalize my life and what I've done. Don't do that. Don't marginalize the life of other black people in this country about love. Don't do that. We should celebrate the successes in our country, not push them down because you have to have

these. So that was his response to, the crowd asked him about DEI and about his pushback. So he pushed back and told the crowd that as a black man, don't talk to him about diversity, equity, and inclusion. But then when he was talking about Elon Musk and Donald Trump, the crowd had some boos and some other things. So let's hear what he had to say about that. What they're doing is under the direction of the President of the United States. If you're going to talk about what oversight is doing, we actually have to let the Doge about what oversight is doing. We actually have to let the Doge committee, the Doge department, actually finish his work. What they are examining right now is inefficiency in the federal system.

This is something that President Obama wanted to do when President Obama was elected president. So therefore he was not, the crowd wasn't happy during this town hall. They were trying to get Byron to answer questions about Doge about the Trump administration and the crowd in Florida of all places. They really gave him a hard time. Dozens of people left after voicing their frustration with his answer. Now, Donald is also running for governor of Florida in next year's election. I listen to people. Maybe people are out here hurting.

So if the economy is bad, people are going to be mad. And if you voted for Trump or you endorsed Trump like, you know, Byron Donalds did, people are going to hold you accountable. Like that pain they're feeling in their pockets, they're going to project that pain on you. So you got to, you know, Byron got to stand ten toes down on his decision. And he's the face of it right now. So if you're holding a town meeting, you are the face of their frustration. That's right.

So and speaking of Doge and Elon Musk, Elon Musk said he will take a step back from his work as leader of the Department of Government Efficiency. He made the announcement on a call with investors yesterday. He said he will continue to spend a day or two per week on government issues for as long as the president will have him. But this announcement comes after a tough year for Tesla. The company's stock is down 40% this year. And earlier this month, it warned investors about the biggest drop in sales

history revenue for the first quarter. It fell 71% compared to the same time of last year. I wonder if that's gone. I don't think that's gonna work for Elon. And the reason I don't think that's gonna work for Elon is because he has chosen a side. He's chosen a political worldview. So the only thing,

only way I think it's gonna work for Tesla if he steps down, period, as CEO. He's definitely gonna have to step down because people don't wanna drive Tesla anymore. And not necessarily because it's not a good car because it's actually a really good vehicle. Because of Elon and his politics. But not only that, but when I'm driving around the city and people are smearing dog poop on your car

Or because they're giving you middle fingers. They're flattening your tires Do you want to deal with because the Elon and his politics? So it's like no I don't want to deal with it So I'm not gonna buy a Tesla when you got people that's that's protesting outside of Tesla's I don't want to pull up there if I drive one I know I'm going to face consequences if I leave it on the street. If people who've lost their job,

because of Elon Musk. Elon Musk went in there and slashed all those federal jobs. So when they see those Tesla's, the same thing with Byron Donnell's, that Tesla represents Elon Musk. Correct. So yes, the Elon Musk in his politics. The only way things gonna bounce back for Tesla

is if Elon Musk steps down as CEO. I agree with you. Period. All right, so President Trump's his approval rating, it is dipping. It is at 42%, which is the lowest since he has returned to office. Now this is according to a new Reuters poll. The drop comes after more Americans expressed concern over his efforts to expand his presidential power. And the poll found discomfort with Trump's push to punish liberal universities,

his attempt to appoint himself board of the chair of the Kennedy senator. Now, a large majority, 83%, said the president must follow federal court rulings even if he disagrees with them. 57% said it's not okay to withhold federal funding based on political views, including that includes one third of Republicans. Now, his approval rating was underwater nearly in every issue, including immigration and inflation and the rule of law. Three out of four respondents said Trump should not seek a third term, something that the

Constitution bars, but he's been floating anyway. And even among Republicans, 53% say no to a third term and 59% of Americans say that we are losing credibility on the global under global under his leadership on the global economy. And it hasn't been a hundred days. Listen, you can't have a bad economy and authoritarian rule. Okay, if the economy was booming, people might let you get the authoritarian rule off. Okay, but you can't have both. Yeah. So that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me on social at Mimi Brown TV. And for more news coverage, follow the black information network or download the free

I hard radio app and visit BIN news.com. I saw you on TV or something Mimi, what you was doing. You was on somebody TV network. Hey, I was. Thank you, Sharla. I have been promoting my docu-series to Out to Dena with Love. It just documents the Eaton Fire and how it displaced a historically black neighborhood

in Altadena, California. I could be watching that. Yeah. It is on the I Heart. You can go to I Heart. It's on the I Heart Radio podcast network. Just put in to Altadena with Love, and it'll pop right up. Okay. Thank you. You mean me? See you tomorrow. You back tomorrow? I'm back on Friday. I'll be back Friday. Okay.

See you Friday. All right. I'll see y'all then. All right. Okay. Bye. Everybody else, Debbie Brown will be joining us. She has a new book, A Living in Wisdom. A path to embodying your authentic self, embracing grief and developing self mastery out right now. So Debbie Brown, when we come back, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God.

We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. My good sister, longtime friend. Debbie Brown is back here. Good morning. Good morning, y'all. Oh, my god. How you feel on book publishing day? Yeah, I feel so free I've had a lot of anxiety about it for the last few weeks

Well, I know what's like, you know that creative birthing and like there's a lot of like vulnerable stories in it And you're like did I do that? Should I have done this? But yeah, now I just feel free. It's here, it's done. I'm proud of it. I feel great. Living in wisdom, a path to embodying your authentic self, embracing grief and developing self mastery. Tell us about that title. Being a healer, being someone that has been on their own spiritual journey for decades and being a teacher, I found that those are the three things that really give you a feeling of a well lived life. You know, when we're looking for healing or when we're looking for self actualization or self awareness, all the things, whatever we're looking for when it comes time to grow,

it's like ultimately we're looking to be the embodiment of our authentic self to get past the performance of like who we say we are and actually get to the core. And then all of being alive is to have grief a part of that, you know, every day there is grief and whether it's losing someone, which I'm sure all of us have or will because that's what it is to be here. Or it's, you know, the daily grief of bearing witness to everything that's happening, finding a way to embrace that grief is a part of what it is to be human is I think a really powerful shift in our growth. And then walking a path of self mastery like looking to always not necessarily like be better or prove things but to just deepen in what you already are. Like mastery isn't perfection. Mastery is like the slow process

of excellence of self, you know, and only we kind of know what that process is inside. I want to go back for people that don't know. Debbie's been here a long time ago, but for people that don't know who Debbie Brown is, I want to start from the beginning. If you don't know, Debbie was a successful radio personality. One of the best. And media media personalities and at the top of her game decided she didn't want to do it anymore it wasn't like she was pushed out it wasn't like she had bad ratings she just said you know what I don't want to do it anymore top of her game and then she started going on this healing journey that Debbie was out in the clubs somebody got into a brawl two but we're not gonna go there. A brawl? I have no idea what's happening.

What brawl was Debbie Brown in? I don't know what that was. This is a healing journey. A rebirth. A rebirth. I want to go to, for people that don't know, what made you say, you know what, this industry is not for me? I want to give this up.

You were doing radio, you were doing different markets, you just had a baby. You said, it's not for me. At the top of your game. How did you go from a woman in radio to just like, no, I'm done with it? First of all, I just have to say, and y'all know this, like to me, radio is one of the most incredible, sacred ways to broadcast.

Cause like you're really in someone's head and body when you talk, right? Like they connect to you with their whole being. It's, I've always found it to be like a sacred responsibility that makes you good at like everything else. I realized that my purpose was evolving. And I realized that a lot of the skills that I was amassing, like communication, connecting with people, building community, I just kept getting very, very clear direction from God that I was meant to do it differently and use it differently. And I felt like I personally was going through so much like while I was still on the radio for many years, I was like kind of secretly quietly getting

certifications and like meditation and breath work and spiritual psychology. Like it was such a huge part of my off the air life. And I felt like, at least at that time, because I left the industry maybe almost 10 years ago, at that time, there was no blending of the two. And I was having situations where I was having, wanting to have these deeper layered conversations. And I was being told by the people I worked with, like, no one wants to hear that.

Like now we can't run that on the air. Like ask more questions about dating, ask questions about beef, ask, you know, and for whatever reasons, it's like what I had to give and what I felt God wanted me to give, it was not valued at the time. But you were so ahead of your time and now it's okay. Now people are vulnerable.

Would you see yourself coming back to doing radio? I love radio. Because you were so ahead of your time, now we have those conversations, and it's not even a thing. We talk about that, people are vulnerable, it seems normal almost. Well she got to Deeply Well podcast.

Yeah, Black Effect Network, come through, yes. And you know the interesting thing about Dev, and I want people to know this, like I met Dev in I think 07, 07, 08. The person Dev is now, she's always been. This is just to me an evolution of who you've always been. You've always been the same one in the room. You know, the one in the room that people can go to

for sound advice, the leader in the room saying, hey, let's go do this, we should be doing this. Like I've always felt that in you. I've always seen that in you. I've always seen that. Why you don't work here? If you, if you have order. Well, she was in New York. Yeah, she, she was Sway's cohost for a while.

No, I'm saying why she don't work here at fair East side. Hi. We got a leader. Good. Y'all, when it comes to healing, the way y'all have been healing in this room, I am just so impressed and inspired. Thank you. There have been some beautiful, transparent conversations.

Yeah. I love the chapter 15, because we're talking about that in a way, heal and accept. Yeah. Talk to us why that's important, that you have to heal and then accept. You know, this is the thing about healing, right?

And I've worked in wellness and wellbeing for over for over a decade now and I work with clients directly. I do workshops, I run retreats. I've had a lot of access to studies and data all around healing, around trauma, around all of it. And I found, you know, from my own journey and with others, it's like there is this misconception that you work on yourself to eventually be rid of everything that's ever happened to you and that then your life will be perfect, that you'll go to therapy, that you'll do somatic exercises, that you'll meditate. And then one day you're going to just like everything in life is going to feel so happy.

That's not God's design, right? Like no feeling is more holy than the other. God wants us to know and experience and feel in real time everything that crosses our path. And that means grief, that means joy, that means, you know, jealousy, sometimes anger, that means fear. It's like, all of it is part of the human experience. And so when it comes to healing, a huge part of it is also accepting that the past can't change. For some of us, that can feel heartbreaking, right? Like a lot of things have happened to so many of us, so hundreds of millions in your life

that didn't get your consent maybe, that you've never uttered aloud, you know? Sometimes we carry things and we're thinking about and ruminating in thought our whole life about the things that have hurt us. And I think it's important for people to know it doesn't mean you're broken or deficient or not healed because you still remember those things. It's really about changing the way you relate to them. Some things will absolutely never change, but when you heal, it really gets transmuted into wisdom where it doesn't feel like this hard, full, painful charge inside of your body. Every time that

memory comes up, you're able to kind of look at it from an observer standpoint and be like, that happened and that really hurt and God, that was hard. And I have respect for what I've been through. I have self-respect for who I am and what I've moved myself through I we got more with Debbie Brown when we come back her new book a living in wisdom a path to embodying your authentic self Embracing grief and developing self mastery is out right now. We have more with her when we come back is the Breakfast Club Good morning. Morning. Everybody is DJ envy just hilariouslamagne Negao, we are the Breakfast Club, we're still kicking it with Debbie Brown. Now when you talk about working on yourself, what does that mean for people, right? When people say I need to work on myself and then they come

back 10 hours later, I worked on myself. I'm healed! So for somebody out there that says, you know, I need to work on myself, what does that mean? God, that's such a good question. And like that I'm healed thing is so funny to me because people will go to one therapy session and be like, I did it. And it's like, actually it takes eight to 12 therapy sessions to have like a real, you know, cognitive breakthrough or, you know, you read one book and it's like, yeah, yeah, I do this because this happened to me and that's who I am. I think that self awareness.

But when you're looking to work on yourself to transcend your experiences, there's a difference. Instagram has given us so much language. A lot of people are using it to manipulate now. I hate the language when it's used the wrong way. Hate it. I know it bothers the issue out of me. It drives me nuts because it's dangerous. To be clear, it's dangerous. People using certain mental health language that haven't done the work, that don't know the work, it's a manipulation tactic.

It can be very harmful for people. It can be very narcissistic. None of those things are devoid in the spiritual or the mental health space. All that same stuff still exists. But when it comes to working on yourself, I think at the base level, it's noticing how do you feel when it's just you with you? If there is anything inside of you that feels unmet, unexpressed, unheard, if there's anything inside of you where you feel anxiety, there is a charge in your chest or there is a rejection

or a cringe, those are things to notice because it's information that maybe something wants to rise to the surface for your review. And I think when we're working on ourselves, it's really about being willing to look at the truth of what is. It doesn't have to be perceived as positive or negative, it's just what is true right now, and then being honest with yourself about it.

Well talk about some of the mental health and mental health things that you've been talking about that I feel have been commercialized to a point where people are using these terms, but they don't really mean it, right? So talk about that a little bit. Uh-oh, you about to make Dev go off now? Yeah, no, I wanna talk about,

no, because it really bothers me because I hear people using these terms and I'm sure they don't even know what these terms mean. Right, like you say somebody, you just gas lit me. And I feel like sometimes it actually stops a conversation because sometimes when people hear those words they automatically say oh I'm not talking about that especially in a workplace where you can't have a normal conversation If somebody says something because now when you hear those terms that also comes after human resources, you know, I mean, absolutely Yeah, I mean there's just so much and and I think people should really do like a lot of deeper layers of research, right? Like I

think the internet is phenomenal in that the last five years our consciousness has raised so much since the pandemic because we have had access to understand, hey, a lot of people have experienced trauma or a lot of people have experienced life frictions or, you know, deeply challenging relationships, but everyone is stopping at like one graphic, right? Like they're stopping at reading one thing or asking chat GPT one question and then they leave it there, you know? And it's like, so I think a lot of terms like understanding,

like a lot of people are overusing the term like narcissist or narcissism, right? Not getting your way with someone or someone kind of even being self-focused, like every single person alive has some layer of narcissistic behavior. That's part of like the human expression too. It's some self-focus, but narcissistic abuse is something entirely different. And those that have experienced understand, like you get CPTSD from it, you get PTSD from

it, you have changes in your body, your health decreases. Like it is a psychological warfare that is insidious and can dramatically change the trajectory of your life. Now if that level of feeling isn't really happening to you, it may not be narcissistic abuse, you know? And so I think we just need to go deeper into the layers of the things that we're learning. really happening to you, it may not be for those things. One thing you told me one time that makes so much sense and I love the fact that you give so many actual examples of how to do it in the book. You told me that when it comes to the language you can have the language and know what it is you're dealing with but a lot of people avoid the actual

healing. The healing work. So if you read the book there's a lot of different exercises that can walk you through that actual healing process. Why do you think you know people forget the healing part once they go to therapy? Because it's hard, you know, and I think it and that's the thing that I really speak to very clearly in my book. It's like all of this is hard. There is no tip or trick to heal from challenging experiences, right? Like I'm not going to tell you, all right, do this five minutes every day. Yes, five minutes every day will build your capacity, but you need to stretch past the five minutes to devote actual real time to the changes you want to see in your life. And so, you know,

something I talk about in the book is like, there's a huge difference between having self awareness and having higher consciousness or being embodied in your self-awareness. Self-awareness is having the terms. It's going to a couple therapy sessions perhaps or reading a bunch of self-help books and saying like this is what happened and this is why I act like this and this is why this is this but it doesn't mean you're changing any of it right like it doesn't mean you're taking it to the next step to behave differently or to invite in different experiences with people and that comes through practice.

That comes through process. And so in this book, I talk about a lot, like how to get out of your way. A lot of people have a lot of sophisticated language around avoiding themselves. You can avoid yourself with anything. You can avoid yourself with therapy. You can avoid yourself with therapy. You're seeing the same therapist for 10 years and nothing in your life changes. What's going on in there?

You know, or you know, I see a lot of people avoid themselves with religion. You can be a part of a church. You can go there on Sundays and you can still not know God. You can still not make better choices, right? It is daily practice. It is showing up in your interpersonal relationships. It is having the hard conversations in real time as they come up and just being present with all of it without expectation, without trying to control it or make it go your way. And so in the book, we have a lot of practices. I teach meditation in the book. We work with mudras in the book, which are hand positions that can really elevate your meditation practice because your hand positions open different energy channels in your body.

There is breath work that can be done in the book. And every single one of those practices anchors in the changes that you want to experience because it shows you how to regulate when you do get triggered, when you do have charge. And so both are needed. You have to have the cognitive and you have to have when you do get triggered, when you do have charge. And so both are needed. You have to have the cognitive and you have to have the somatic. You have to have the spiritual. You have to have the physical. All of it kind of beautifully goes together.

All right. We have more with Debbie Brown when we come back. Her new book, Living in Wisdom, a path to embodying your authentic self, embracing grief and developing self mastery is out right now. We'll be back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning everybody. It's DEJ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.

We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Debbie Brown. Charlamagne? Why is meditation so important? Oh my God. You know, and I think in some other maybe wisdom traditions, some people might relate to it if you call it reflection or if you call it moments for contemplation. But meditation is the master healer because it gets you call it reflection or if you call it moments for contemplation, but

meditation is the master healer because it gets you out of your identity. And our identity is almost 100% made from like all of the culturally created beliefs that we have or beliefs from our family of origin or you know the things that were influenced by by society. And so when you're able to get out of all those extra layers of like, what your titles are, you know, what the role you play, I'm a husband, I'm a wife, I'm a someone's child, brother, sister, friend, when you take yourself out of all of that, you actually get to glimpse like, what am I designed to be? What was God's intention for me of me before I fit into anybody's box or any relationship? And so the thing about meditation, and I really want to share this, you know, I believe in trauma-informed practice and it's a little bit different to hold that space within the

healing community than if you're not. It's recognizing that a lot of people will have barriers to almost every healing modality that comes up because of some of the things that they may have experienced. So in meditation, you're going through so many layers and the first time you try the first several times you try, it could be so hard and frustrating and anger inducing and irritating to Yo Kebob fans, it's your boy Bom Han and I'm bringing you something epic.

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episode is out now. Listen to Las Culturistas on the iHeart radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey kids, it's me, Kevin Smith. And it's me, Harley Quinn Smith. That's my daughter, man, who my wife has always said is just a beardless, d***less version of me. And that's the name of our podcast, Beardless, d***less Me of me and that's the name of our podcast, Beardless D***less Me. I'm the old one. I'm the young one.

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It's a work in progress. Listen to Beardless D***less Me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever. You get your podcast. Sit down and be still and it could bring up everything and make you feel like you're failing at it And then you want to stop and then let me go do things. I'm actually good at you know that is literally me Yeah, that is I feel like I'm missing out on doing something or I could I can be doing this with this time Or it's not working it like so I grow to be frustrated when I try to Meditate man, so I just grow to be frustrated when I try to meditate, man. So I just be smoking.

And that, yeah, well, I mean, that too, smoking and meditate is like a great little collaboration and yoga and stretching. But I'm so glad you said that because I think that is almost everyone's response. But especially if you have been through hard things. And what I want everyone to know is that phase passes. And that's part of what doing the work is, right?

It's being patient with yourself and witnessing yourself, especially when you don't wanna do it. And it's saying like, God, I'm sitting here and I hate this, this is stupid. I don't wanna do this. Breathe, breathe, okay, okay. Wiggle. Release. Open your body. Like you start meeting those feelings with things that harmonize that experience for you. But

eventually the level you're aiming for is like higher and higher consciousness. Higher consciousness means a greater ability to be what you are designed to be on earth and to also extend love and goodwill and compassion and power and influence to others for the higher good of all concerned. Yeah. You also, you dedicated your book, and I'm probably going to pronounce her name wrong, to Mai Haskell. Mae Haskell.

Mae Haskell. Yeah. And I didn't know who that was until I went to go look it up. And she was a young woman who was dismembered and Encino. What made you want to dedicate the book to her? And you said, I pray you are free. I have to be really careful talking about this because the trial hasn't begun yet. Gotcha.

She was a beautiful woman. I had the privilege and the pleasure of meeting when my son started kindergarten, and our boys were friends. And so my son is in first grade. So this just happened last year. And, you know, I'm sure the parents listening, like when your kids are in kinder, like you're still very connected to the other families, right? Because the kids can't communicate on their own. So you're creating the play dates. You guys are getting together for all the birthday parties. Like you are seeing each other almost seven days a week.

She was the mother of this sweet, beautiful little boy that was in class with my son and two other sons. And her husband is currently incarcerated for allegedly murdering her and her parents. And her body was completely dismembered. Her head was taken, her limbs were taken and not recovered. Her parents were dismembered and then their bodies were dispersed in the trash cans in my neighborhood. There are horrors in this world, you know. I dedicated my book to her for so many reasons, but it's really just like if someone takes your whole family, who remembers you? You know, like I wanted to just honor the fact that she was here,

that she was alive and that I will be thinking about her every day of my life. Living in wisdom, ladies and gentlemen. Debbie Brown is out today. I got a lot more questions. I just don't know where we got it. I do, okay, Musa. Yeah. Does everybody need to have a purpose?

I think everybody does have a purpose. I think what we get wrong is that purpose has to be quantified by something or that it has to make money. You know, I think just does have a purpose. I think what we get wrong is that purpose has to be quantified by something or that it has to make money. You know, I think just like so many words are being appropriated right now within mental health, I think other words are being used for performance, for really self validation sometimes or ego, right? Like you hear people, well, my purpose is this or, you know, what's my purpose?

And it's just another thing that you are kind of mis-pouring yourself into. Purpose in my belief is simply your lived experience and the wisdom you've gleaned from it. It's the skills you've amassed in any and everything you could have ever done. It's your innate gifts, you know, the things that you have that God gave you

and it's then using it to serve Putting it back into service for others And so, you know, it's like I could say my purpose is talking right because I was a broadcaster for years I lead meditation I communicate all the things but really like I look at my purpose is like being able to be in darkness with People, you know I think my life's greatest purpose is the fact that I'm not afraid of the dark and I can be in darker moments and not recoil with other people

that I can hold space for that. And I think that may not be the most glorious purpose. It's not the thing that's maybe gonna land me on a billboard, but it's the thing that God trained me for. It's the thing that my life has bloomed into and I love it. I love that. I love how you break that down and also you spoke to how people overuse words because half the time people don't even know how to answer that question.

Well, what is your purpose? Like me, I still don't know what my purpose is. I mean, I'm grateful for the woman that I'm becoming and my spiritual growth and everything, but I still don't know what my purpose is and what if it's not just one thing, you know what I mean, I'm grateful for the woman that I'm becoming and my spiritual growth and everything, but I still don't know what my purpose is. And what if it's not just one thing, you know what I mean? Exactly. And that's the thing. It's not. Yeah, it's not, you know, and like, it's okay if finding your purpose takes your whole life. It's the point of being alive. Like, why do we think we have to move so quickly through everything? That's the validation piece, right?

Like that's the wanting to be seen in it or celebrated for it. But like, if it's your life's work, it is supposed to take your whole life. Yeah, that's right. Because my mother-in-law, my husband's mother, she literally just told me she just found out what her purpose is. And that is to take care of like to oversee her granddaughter. I just gave her a beautiful granddaughter, her very first grandchild. And that's what she said holding a baby, like a few months ago.

Oh, I know what my purpose is now, is to be here with my family and to take care of my family. Cause she was living out the country for decades. Please don't. No, that was him. That's him. He started it. What just happened?

You started it. Why are you having to do it? I was letting you have this moment. He started it. You started it. Why are you out of the room? I didn't say nothing. I was letting you have this moment. You started it. I didn't say anything. Wait, what are we talking about? They trying to say, I think that's her purpose too.

Because of Ice being bugged. No, we ain't got nothing to do with Ice. No. What are we talking about? She came back. What? I have nothing to do with it. She came back over here to take care of my child.

And every day they joke about her being sent back, and I don't know what to do. Yes, literally. I mean, I understand the friction in this room. I get why. They just have to grow up. Because, gosh. Debbie Brown living in wisdom,

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iHeart Radio podcast network. Deb, you already know I love you to death. Thank you three. I love you, big fan. I remember her knocking nobody out. That happened. Do we get back to that? Give each other grace even the old Versions shout out to Debbie Brown man Make sure you go pick up her new book living in wisdom a path to embodying your authentic self

Embracing grief and developing self mastery. Yes All right, we are the breakfast club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren is coming straight back. She gets into somebody that knows somebody. She gets into details. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. She be having the latest on the list. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes she have facts, sometimes she have details, sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest. On The Breakfast Club. Talk to me. So Miss Tina Knowles revealed in a sit down exclusively with People Magazine that she'd actually

been battling, and she's now cancer free, stage one breast cancer. Let's take a look. Wow. I'm doing great, cancer free, feeling great, and just feeling very, incredibly blessed that you know, God allowed me to find that early. Well, I struggled with whether I would share that journey because I'm very private, but

I decided to share it because I think it's a lot of lessons in it for other women. I wanted to make sure that they knew how important it is not to slack on your mammograms because you don't have to let this, I mean, we can catch cancer at stage one or even stage zero. I didn't know that there was a stage zero. I could have caught this at stage zero if I had not missed my mammogram, but I did because of COVID. And as a result, it was stage one. It could have been stage zero. So you have to go get your mammograms. Well, God bless her.

I'm glad she was able to catch it early, man. And I love to hear when people talk about their journey, right, because sometimes people forget or they don't talk about it enough. Like, he had missed us, but she was able to catch us four years later, even with Charlamagne and myself talking about colonoscopies. People need to go to the doctor. You need to get checked out, because you need

to catch it before it gets worse, you know? And I remember there used to be like an age requirement for you to have to wait until you're 40 to get a mammogram. Now you can get it like in your 20s. Yeah, I'm sure if you got a history in your family, they probably encourage you to go get it earlier. Yeah, so I definitely encourage young women to get them too. Is there another way, I thought there was another way of doing a mammogram. I know there's one way the women actually...

They smash down on it? Yeah, but then there's another way... They don't have to show us Envy. You don't even have any breasts. I wish there was another way though, like they didn't have to like... They have to do all the stuff. Yeah. Envy was holding him. I was not saying it's the end of it, because I'm trying... Okay. Delicate what there is. That's what I was saying. It's not a financial thing. OK. Delicate with it. It's awkward. Like, you know, just want to put it in the machine.

All right. Oh, they keep you all awake when they do that? So it's not like colonoscopy? Yes. Yes. They say it hurts. It's painful, right? Yes, it is painful.

Because a colonoscopy, colonoscopy, they knock you out. It's just awkward. Envy like to be awake. Like, they like put pressure. It's like, they knock you out for the colonoscopy? Yeah, they put you to sleep. Yeah.

Unless you want to be awake. No, they have to put you to sleep. I thought that was quick. I thought the colonoscopy? Yeah, they put you to sleep. Yeah, unless you want to be awake. No, they have to put you to sleep. I thought the colonoscopy was quick. You don't know what they put you to sleep. You're knocked out. Wow. I'm going over my physical today. Look at you.

You cannot say that. Y'all can say that? I'm talking about prostate exams. But you can't say the... If y'all believe that, that's crazy. But I'm talking about prostate exams. But you can't say the fake. That's ridiculous. If y'all believe that, that's crazy. Why say doctors do not be? But I'm going today. What else?

I know you are. You can't wait. Why are you going today? He ain't even got no appointment. You just want to be touched. You just want to be touched. Feel a little lonely over there. What is the doctor saying?

Insurgency. I don't know what you're going through. Why is he having to go? Why is he having to go to jail, Mr. Casey? Well, so Miss Tina Nose is promoting her book, matriarch. So she has been talking or releasing a lot of the you know, different excerpts from the book. And in one of the passages, she actually talks about Beyonce and Jay Z and how Beyonce chose to be with Jay Z because she says at the time, Beyonce was actually dating another guy and

it was like really serious. But at the same time she had started dating Jay-Z and Beyonce came to her. She was dating, she wasn't in a relationship. She was just dating and she came to Miss Tina and was like, I don't know what to do because at this point, like they, I think both the guys that came into Houston at one point, she was like, I need to make a decision. So Miss Tina was like, well, how do you feel? And she was was like I already knew it was Jay-Z for her and when they talked about it it was him and that's where she decided to go and she was like you know they were young just talking on the phone barely getting to spend time

with each other he would come and do dinner at her house because they couldn't go anywhere for real and that's how the relationship developed early on she also talked about y'all remember back in 2011 when Beyonce got pregnant with Blue Ivy people were saying that she didn't deliver a baby? Yes. Miss Tina for the first time talked publicly about how she felt going through all of that because she was told not to say anything. Let's take a listen. I want to talk about fame and the impact that has on a family. You say it's specifically about just the rumors. Yeah. What was that like? To hear people say the most horrendous things and to call my whole family a lie. You know, because we would all have to be part of that conspiracy and lie about something

so sacred. It was, it was one of the worst times in my life because I couldn't say anything. My daughter was saying, no, because you're just going to make the story bigger. So don't say anything is going to go away. But it didn't go away for a long time. And it's one of the most painful things for me to know that people could just be that disgusting. And people just get to lie. And they don't have to suffer any consequences.

I knew Beyonce would be telling Miss Tina, don't say nothing. But just imagine being the mother having to shut up and sit back and see cuz like she said they will all have to be a part of it right and this is what this girl wanted this wish she wanted for a while a long time and y'all talking about his fate she she also got into details of like Beyonce and Jay-Z's wedding and talked about how they had to do it so private because again, they didn't want it to get out.

So they literally had to do it inside of a house and Miss Tina and Jay's mom cooked the food like everything had to be so private, so sacred. She also for the first time in this book talks about her split from Mr. Matthew knows, let me try get Mr. in there. Yeah, so she says that they were married in 1980, divorced in 2011, but it was because he was a really, really horrible cheater. He actually had a baby within their marriage and that was like the last straw for her. She said that like 2009 is when he had the baby on her, but before that he would do some

crazy things when it came to cheating and she would take him back every time because she kind of just couldn't let it go. And then when that happened, she was like, no, I can't do this. And then she thought about getting together at some point, but she was like, she knew that the girls would be upset at him. So we're back together. Yeah. Where's the baby?

Where's the family? She does. He has other kids outside of Beyonce and Solange. Yeah. No, where that baby? The baby that he had? Yeah. It's a boy.

I think it's his son. Let me look this up. He has, so outside of Beyonce and Solange, he has Nixon, Alexander knows and Koi Michael knows. So, two kids. Yes. Yep.

Two sons. All right. You know Tina named Beyonce and Solange because them names sound regular. Them names sound too regular. Right. Okay. Yeah.

Is that book out? Yes. The Matriarch is now out. It's available now. Yep. And it's all about Miss Tina's life and not just Beyonce and Solange and that, but really about her life upbringing. She talks about, you know, watching her brother almost get killed by the cops at one point.

And just, yeah, it's a lot that you learn about her and watching her talk throughout the interviews too. Matthew knows, Mr. Matthew knows is not doing any interviews anymore because he doesn't like when people talk about his personal life. Like they put questions not to ask. And how can you not ask these questions when, you know, Tina Nose talks about it, Ms. Tina Nose talks about it. Yeah, and then what else is we gonna ask you?

Well, I interviewed Mr. Matthew Nose about, he has a cancer company that he works with that helps people find like help and aid when you're going through like cancer and different things. And we had a very great conversation, and Beyonce never came up. And he was super nice. But he wasn't allowed to ask about it. I didn't want to Let me just say I know I wanted to

Happy birthday John Cena. Where did you get that from? It's John Cena birthday. He just broke the record too. He's been WWE champion 17 times. Broke Ric Flair's record. He follows me on Twitter. Isn't that real? Really? John Cena?

Hey y'all, I know that's right. You be having some of the most random, like, potentially. No, no, not like that. Like, what? What? Donkey of the Day is up next, right? Yes, it is.

Who you give your donkey to, man? Four after the hour, we need the US Department of Education to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with them, please. All right, we'll get to that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake up.

Wake up. You're locked into the Breakfast Club. Your execution on the Donkey of the Day is something to go He gave me donkey of the day and I deserve it you need to know you need to tell them I am It's time for donkey of the day it's a read but you're so good at you're trying to be a fake ass Well sexy red, Donkey today for Wednesday April 23rd goes to the US Department of Education who under the Trump administration announced on Monday that it will resume debt collections for federal student loan borrowers who have defaulted on their debt.

So millions of borrowers are at risk of having federal payments or portions of their salaries withheld in the coming months because the White House said it can and will take borrowers wages, pensions, and tax refunds. Let's go to KOAA MBC 5 for the report please. Major whiplash for millions of federal student loan holders. For the first time in five years, the Department of Education will start collecting, restart collecting, that is, federal student loans in default. Student loans go into default after 270 days

without any payment. The Trump administration said in a statement, quote, there will not be any mass loan forgiveness. The Trump administration has announced we will put an end to Joe Biden's illegal student loan bailout attempts. Loans have been on pause since March of 2020 because of COVID-19.

The Biden and Harris administration even tried to cancel the debts of millions of borrowers. Now the Trump administration says the previous administration did not have authority to cancel that debt and it will start collections as soon as May 5th. Debt cannot be wiped away. It just ends up getting transferred to others. So why should Americans who didn't go to college or went to college and

responsibly paid back their loans, paying for the student loans of other Americans? I didn't go to college, so I don't have student loan debt. So this won't impact me, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna care about this. Okay, the reason I care about this is because I care about people. All right, period. It doesn't matter what your financial situation is.

If you live in a country where people are barely getting by, that is not gonna make for a pleasant society. Not to mention, working class people are a benefit to our business. Okay, working class people who are listening to this, they're the ones who listen to the show every day. Okay, they're the people who buy books They come to the comedy shows They'll spend their hard-earned money to be at the black effect podcast festival this Saturday in Atlanta and every working-class Person in this country should be able to pay their bills and have a little leftover for recreation

Okay They should have some money for leisure activities and if you're voted for Donald Trump Because he promised to make the economy better better you gotta be scratching your head right now okay Donald Trump said he was gonna make the economy better on day one but all he's done so far is cut federal programs that benefit working-class people put Elon Musk in charge to fire a bunch of federal federal workers this half-assed trade war that's going on that's hurting our wallets and 401k plans and now the White House is bringing more pain to millions of Americans by restarting debt collection for student loan borrowers who have fallen into default?

I hope that you all realize this is just politicians playing with the lives of people again, right? I was reading an op-ed that Linda McMahon wrote in the Wall Street Journal and she blamed the Biden administration and universities for making empty promises to students while pocketing their loan dollars. She said greedy colleges have profited massively from Biden-era forgiveness measures. When I read that, I said to myself, oh, the American people once again have to suffer because of this pissing contest between Democrats and Republicans. See, I hate when political parties do that.

If Republicans do something that's good and benefit people, Dems should let it stand. If Democrats do something that's good, that benefits people, Republicans should let it stand. Linda McMahon said, colleges profit massively from Biden era forgiveness loans. Well, Linda, there are plenty of corporations, institutions, and people in the Trump administration

who profit massively from things y'all do too. I honestly don't care as long as the working class people are getting some relief. When the rich get richer and the poor don't get a devil damn thing that's not good. But if the rich get richer and people are able to get some money in their pocket too so they can live that's a beautiful society. Okay, and I don't want to hear you idiots say no they gotta pay these loans back you can't get a loan and not pay it back sure But how come there is never that sense of urgency to pay loans back when it comes to these corporations?

Okay, 2008 financial crisis US government bailed out banks AIG got 182 billion city group got 45 billion in TARP funds and hundreds of billions in loan guarantees Bank of America got 45 billion through the TARP program. Those were loans. 2009 auto industry, GM got 50 billion in federal aid. Chrysler got 12 billion. GM filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy and had over 30 billion in debt wiped out. What about during COVID? Airlines, Delta, United, American Airlines, all got billions in payroll support and loans. My point is I don't ever hear or see about these corporations getting pressured to pay money back the way we are so quick to do American citizens. Yes I'm glad all these institutions were able to stay afloat. We need those institutions. We need the

airlines. We need the banks. But don't we need the American people too? Is it really gonna hurt us as a country if we don't garnish the wages of student loan borrows? If we don't take from their pensions, their tax refunds, is it really going to make or break us as a society if we choose to simply let those folks be for the time being? Why at a time like this would the Department of Education and the Trump administration be doing this? Because it's not about what's right. It's about revenge. I'm not a Joe Biden fan. I think his legacy is trash, but the student loan forgiveness that he provided was great.

Okay, one of the better things on his resume, but Donald Trump is hell bent on wiping his ass with Joe Biden's resume. It's that simple. And we the people have to suffer because folks have political scores to settle. Please let Rumi Ma give the US Department of Education the biggest he-ha. He-ha, he-ha. You stupid motherf*****, are you dumb? Let me ma give the US Department of Education the biggest he are You stupid mother are you dumb? Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's what we said earlier. It makes no sense None whatsoever. They deserve that

All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. Yes, ma'am. Now when we come back Alencia Johnson will be joining us She has a new book called flip the tables and we're gonna talk to her next don't go anywhere What's the whole no, it's the whole book name flip the table You know what flip the tables the everyday disruptors guide to finding courage and making change Your your book title better be short then the way you be coming I'm going back with them right now. Oh, you need a subtitle and why? That's what it should be called and why? Morning everybody is DJ envy Jess hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club long The roses here as well and we got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed a new book flip the tables is out right now

We have Alencia Johnson. Welcome. Thank you. I'm glad to be here. How you feeling? I feel good. Interesting to say that in the midst of everything going on, but I feel good taking care of myself and getting this message out. Well, we find joy what we can, right? Right, we have to. You got to. That's the only way to survive it. Absolutely. I love the title of your book because I think that you know people don't ever expound on that part of Jesus enough You know what I mean? Yes Flip the tables the everyday disruptors guide to finding courage and making change break that title there. Yeah, you know it act

I'm glad you mentioned that reference. I'm a pastor's daughter. I love that story of Jesus and in all of my work I've worked on a lot of presidential campaigns. I've worked for Planned Parenthood People constantly ask me. Oh my goodness. How can I make change? And in all of my work, I've worked on a lot of presidential campaigns, I've worked for Planned Parenthood. People constantly ask me, oh my goodness, how can I make change? They think it has to be at this massive scale. But what I realize is that when we find the courage to really be ourselves and to live in our truth and to speak up in rooms and do these small acts of disruption every single day, it doesn't actually require folks to quit their jobs and run for office,

so I don't think a lot of people should do that. It doesn't require us to be like Dr. King or, you know, having these massive platforms, which are really important, but there are things that folks can do every single day. And I found that getting connected to your individual purpose and having the courage to be who you are is directly connected to being an everyday disrupter that propels our communities forward. And I think it's kind of divine that it's such a time as this that it came out when I started writing this book five years ago and who knew that it would come out three months after, a few months after Donald Trump was elected again.

You worked on the VP's campaign, right? And you worked with Barack Obama? Yeah, I worked on Obama's campaign, Joe Biden's campaign, Elizabeth Warren's campaign, and Vice President Harris' campaign. What bothers me is I know people like you exist and people like you work for these individuals. Why aren't they disruptive enough? Why don't they flip tables? Why don't they have the courage to disrupt the status quo?

You're talking about Barack Kamala? All of them. All of them. Well, you know, it's interesting because I don't want to say I look at, well, I don't think I look at all of them in essence the same. In democratic politics, in politics in general, elected officials, I think, tend to follow a certain path, right? And sometimes it seems as though

making sure that the status quo remains. I do think if we step back a little bit, Barack Obama was a bit of a disruptor. Because of him though, because of his identity. His identity, and because he, you know, folks told him he shouldn't have ran, and he did, right? Now there's a whole system at play that folks, you know, when you become the President of the United States or the nominee for the President of the United States, you know, you uphold

this party platform. But the reality is I don't look at them to disrupt what our country needs politically. I actually look at us as the people and the groundswell, which is why it's just as important. Yes, I work for a lot of presidential campaigns, but it's just as important, yes, I work for a lot of presidential campaigns, but it's just as important to work for these local races, to work for these primary races, to work for these governor's races. All of these people who are actually trying to challenge the system and get more reflective folks in position to actually push for the policies we care about, like universal health

care and racial justice and access to abortion and all those things. And so you know it takes a lot of courage to shake the table and it takes a lot of courage to concede that if you're going to shake the table you actually might lose in the short term but you're going to create a path for other people to push forward that change and it'll be a little bit easier because you were there and you started something. How did you get into politics? What got you into politics in that part of the game? I think it was always in me.

I talk about my late grandmother in the book often. I actually dedicate the book to her, Miss Ozella Bennett. And she was one of those people who, much like a lot of our ancestors, their names aren't in history books, but they were foot soldiers. My grandmother was in the church. I'm the daughter of a pastor, so I group in the Black Church.

And there's a lot of politics there, right? A lot of social justice there. And just this understanding that where much is given, much is required, that my gifts are not my own and that they are actually on loan and that I actually have to get those out and help the world around me. And my grandmother, no matter how much she had or what she didn't have, she always felt like she had to stand in the gap. And voting for me is just all, I mean, I would go with my parents to the voting booth, I had that little sticker, but that was just like one part of it. I had to be an active participant in the world that I wanted to create. And so for me, it was just kind of natural that it would be a part of my life.

Now how I got to my position, I talk about in the book, I didn't know anybody in democratic politics. When I moved to DC, I was working a corporate job. I just had a dream. I was like, oh, this black man is president. I think I kind of want to work for his reelection campaign and figure it out how to network with folks that ended up taking a job that I wasn't even qualified for, but they took a chance on me. And I figured it out from there. And I can't just sit on the sidelines and critique something and not be a part of it. And I also understand how engaging, if so many more of us engaged in the process, the outcomes will look different, our communities will look different. But for whatever reason, there are so many barriers

for us to engage. And that's another reason why I wanted to be part of this because I felt like, well, if I can do this and people can identify with me, maybe it won't feel as hard for me to engage in politics. Maybe I won't feel ashamed that I don't know every single term that they're using or every single way that a policy is developed. I'll be honest with you. Sometimes when I have to go and see an MSNBC and talk about something, I gotta research what I'm talking about because government class was in high school.

I'm 37 years old. I don't remember everything. And so if I can't remember all these things, if I have to continue to inform myself, imagine all the other people who are just scared to participate because they don't remember everything. And so if I can't remember all these things, right, if I have to continue to inform myself, imagine all the other people who are just scared to participate because they don't know. It's not that they don't want to. And so I know that I have to be a representative of that. But I also, again, is this calling where much is given, much is required. And I'm required to make my communities better. I think right now with politics and like how we're seeing people get messages out through like TikTok and stuff like that, things are changing. And I saw an interview that you did where you talked

about you weren't the most qualified, but you were the most recommended when it came to working for the Obamas. And I saw another interview where you talked about your red flag is you chapter in your book. And putting both of those together, I think that there's like a renaissance of like new political leaders, but they're afraid that they don't know enough for it, that they can't challenge the trumps of the world. You know what I mean? So how do you speak to those leaders that are coming up in this book because they're there? Yeah. They just need to figure out how to do what you did. No, they literally are there, which is why I start the book with a disruption of self. Yo, K-pop fans, it's your boy Bom Han and

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We actually have to look in the mirror, and that's the hardest thing to do. One thing that I've realized in working and advocacy spaces and political space, I'm not going to get in trouble for saying this, but we're telling the world to treat us well and to vote for us to enact these policies that see us as worthy for humanity and all of these things and fighting for justice. And yet we're not treating each other well. Right. And a lot of that is because we are not healthy. We're not dealing with the things that are holding us back from being who we are. We're not dealing with this trauma.

We're doing this interpersonal harm that is actually not allowing us to do the work that needs to be done for communities. And so I put that chapter, The Red Flag Is You and the disruption of self section of the book, because so many times we are the Disruption of Self section of the book because so many times we are the ones that are getting in our own way and that's why the only thing stopping us sometimes, yes, there's the system, right? Like there's all of that and yet at the same time sometimes it's us getting in our own way.

Alright, we have more with Alencia Johnson when we come back. Her new book, Flip the Tables is out now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. We're still kicking with Alencia Johnson.

Her new book, Flip the Tables, is out right now. Lauren? What about your arm? Because I know you did a lot of work with Planned Parenthood and now a lot of what you were doing is, they ain't supporting that. So when you do all this work, you stopped taking the risk to fight, to break this ground, and then you see this new administration come in who is completely against it and it's stripping

all of that. You feel defeated or like, what happens now? Because you're not there anymore. No, I mean, and then they have the audacity to talk about they want to put policies in place for people to have more babies and give people $5,000. I'm like, but y'all voted against the child tax credit. So what's interesting about working at Planned Parenthood, I worked there for six years at the national office and talk about disruptive, being the daughter of a pastor, lover of Jesus and advocating for abortion rights. People

are like, how do you reconcile that? I was like, I just exist. Literally, I just exist. And the teachings of Jesus, the red text in the Bible, tells me a lot of ways in which I should show up in the world. When I was working at Planned Parenthood, President Obama was still in office. And I was like, oh, we good. He believes in reproductive freedom. This is great. And they're like, oh no, let's look at these state policies and these states that are overturning the right to access to abortion. And not only access to abortion, but sex education, contraception, all of these things and just gutting healthcare systems and health centers

that are helping people who have nowhere else to go. When I look at what's happening now at the federal level and the Trump administration is literally going after organizations like Planned Parenthood. It reminds me that these people do not care about people at the margins. They do not care about low-income folks who have nowhere else to go. And if you actually wanted people to have more children in this country, you would actually support and bolster the healthcare system instead of gutting it.

Last week was Black Maternal Health Week, and Black maternal mortality is on the rise. Maternal mortality across the country, across demographics is on the rise and the wealthiest nation. And so it's challenging, it's frustrating. There's this Alice Walker quote I put at the beginning of the book and I'm paraphrasing it. You have to keep a healthy soul in the face of constant oppression, which reminds you that at the end of the day, there's going to continuously be something that you're fighting for. So how do you maintain your spirit in order to keep going? And that is through the joy and the rest and all of those things can coexist together. While you're also still fighting for the ability to have agency over my body. The one thing I will say of everything being burned down from abortion access to everything

that's happening in our country, it gives us the opportunity to build something better and something new. I don't want to rebuild the old because the old was clearly, it was able to be dismantled. I actually now want to be able to imagine something even better that's actually going to work and how do we build that? And that's actually what gets me up at night. I'm like I'm not fighting these people to rebuild what didn't work. I have this vision that excites me to build something even better even on the days that are hard. That's too simple.

Even, you know, I'm going back to the urgency and now when people ask us now they like they'll tell us all of these different things that Trump is doing every single day and they're like, what do you think of that? And I'm going back to the urgency and now when people ask us now, they like, they'll tell us all of these different things that Trump is doing every single day. And they're like, what is, what do you think of that? And I'm like, I don't know what to think. Cause I'm like, what am I even supposed to do? Because it always seems like the urgency is put on we the people. But then when these elected officials that we voted for from 2020 to 2024, when they were in the white house, they didn't govern with a sense of urgency. That's what always gets me about Democrats. Whenever it's election time, it's a sense of

urgency. It's on y'all. It's a threat to democracy. You're going to lose all your rights and everything else, but you don't govern like that when you get in office. Yeah, you know, it is frustrating. I will say I don't pay attention to what that man is doing all day every day because then I'll just sit in this place where I'm immobile, right? But I do look for small pockets of hope. And to your point, it does end up being us that have to save our own communities. But I think that's in general a nature of who we are

as a people and that is community. I mean, look at our friends who started State of the People, which I was a part of, you all broadcast it, and now there's a whole tour. K.S. Right? Shout out to Angela Rye and Joy Reid and so many folks who are just building something beautiful, reminding us of our power as community. And I think out of that births people who will govern with urgency of now. So I write about Ayanna Pressley in the book, but I also write about Shirley Chisholm, who was just fed up and was like, oh, I'm going to actually be the one that changes.

You know, David Hogg, who was the vice chair of the DNC, but was a survivor of Parkland shooting and had done all of this activism, and now he's challenging, he's getting with Parkland shooting. It's an all of this activism and now he's challenging. He's getting a lot of heat. That man is getting a lot of heat. I have said, I said that two months ago, anybody who's not willing to fight in the Democratic party should be primary. I came Jeffries Chuck Schumer. Y'all should resign.

If y'all not the people that can meet this moment, I really feel that way. And anybody else in the Democratic party who's not willing to fight should be primary. I am all for what David Hogg is doing. I said that months ago. And listen, you know, there are some people who disagree with it, but he said, listen, change has to, we can't just keep talking about change. You got to actually go after it. And whether or not you believe in what he's doing, whether or not you believe that there

needs to be new leadership, whatever it is, like change doesn't just happen when we sit around and wish for it. We actually have to do something about it. And sometimes in order to get these folks to operate with some urgency, you gotta put some pressure and some heat under them. That's why everybody in the party should have had a copy of this book flip the table. Absolutely. I don't know if the Earth did, if they're gonna do it though. They have no choice now. We never don't have, when do we ever have a gonna do it though. They have no choice now. They don't have a choice.

We never don't have, when do we ever have a choice? No, there's really no choice now. I feel like it's always a fighter fight, like do what you gotta do to get out of a situation for us. It's different, I could be with sister Fran. I hear you, but I feel like it is different, but I don't feel like anything has changed about the way that people are handling it.

I don't really feel the sense of urgency. There was an interview that you talked about DEI, you're like, these companies are folding. It was Glamour magazine. And you said these companies are folding. They don't understand that the proximity to the president isn't power. Power is showing him that he needs you. People are not going to do that. Everything that we're talking about, people just don't do it. You know, but I think what I hear you and I do have to remind us all that this man has only, he hasn't even been in office 100 days. Lord have mercy.

But because we are in such an information overload. It's like forever. It does. It's like you open Instagram and I'm seeing restaurants I want to go to and then I'm seeing what this man is doing in the White House. Right? So like we're in this information overload. And yet, and at the same time, I think about at the State of the Union, shout out to Congressman

Green and y'all had him up here. And I was like, oh my gosh, every single Democrat should have gotten up right after him and disrupted the entire speech. Right. And then when, you know, Senator Booker did his filibuster, people were saying, yes, this is what we need more of. And now you're seeing more people in the streets. And I think people are, are, some of our elected officials are understanding that there's more that they can do now. And then there are still going to be some who don't. And we have midterm elections and special elections. And I am all about getting people in office who are going to be effective. And also us participating in that if you, whether you agree with them or disagree with them, if they represent you, you have the power and the right to show up

and tell them what is working and what isn't working. And I want more of us to do, I want our elected officials to be scared. I want our elected officials to be like, my constituents aren't going for this or my constituents told me I have to do this and that's why I'm doing it. Absolutely. Well, Flip the Tables is out right now. Alencia Johnson, the everyday disruptors guide to finding courage and making change. And this isn't a book, you know, just for people who are into politics.

Just in life, if you want to learn how to flip some damn tables like Jesus did. Yes, more of that. Like, can you imagine, like, Jesus flipping over tables? He was angry. Yes, I think you should. I think you should find a table to flip. Listen, OK. That's a whole nother conversation for us to have.

That Jesus. A little bit of wine. No, that's it. He turned water into wine. Lincey and Johnson. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Y'all.

The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Jess, Larry, Charlamagne, the guy we are the breakfast club. You just reminded me, salute to my guy Mr. Show Me The Money. Mr. Show Money is his name. Mr. Show Money.

I was in Newark, New Jersey over the weekend and he gave some gifts for Jess and Lauren and you as well. Yeah, I got a t-shirt. But he told me to give you this sombrero. What's that for? He said, he said get at the cowboy. I said who is cowboy? He said Envy. And I said why you call him cowboy? He said, get at the cowboy. I said, who is cowboy? He said, Envy.

And I said, why you call him cowboy? He said, he know what I'm talking about. I don't know what he's talking about. And I'm just passing you to some, but that's a sombrero though. I'm not Mexican and I'm not Latino. Well, you Dominican. I'm not Dominican.

Why'd he get me a sombrero? I bet you know how to wear it. You look at you. You put it on your head. You know exactly how to wear it. That is so cute. You didn't get too big for that. They all over Jess in-law's house. Listen, you know exactly, look at you. You put it on your head. You know exactly how to wear it. That is so cute. You're too big for that. They all over Jess in Law's house.

Listen, you know exactly, look at you. Oh, there you go. There you go. What? That's good. What did I say with this umbrella? Like what? Now you don't know?

I don't. Yeah, right. Well speaking of legal. Tequila! Right, tequila. I thought we got some. Look at Mom look like she ready to take a shot right now. Oh wait. She always, so I'm gonna take my sombrero with me. Why didn't that happen this weekend so we could do the Black Effect Festival and then go drink tequila after?

Shut up you alcoholic. Let's get to the witness one. Lauren be coming in straight back. She gets in from somebody that knows somebody. She's like, I'm gonna go get some tequila. She's like, I'm gonna go get some tequila. She's like, I'm gonna go get some tequila. She's like, I'm and then go drink tequila after. Shut up you alcoholic. Let's get to the latest one. Lauren be coming straight back. Tell her.

She gets into somebody that knows somebody. She gets to details. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. She be having the latest on the site. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes she have facts, sometimes she have details, sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest.

On the Breakfast Club. Talk to me. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. But what's the latest? On The Breakfast Club. Ryan Coogler has posted a thank you letter to his ex-account and it is the sweetest thing ever. Drop a bomb for Ryan Coogler. Yes, we need to drop him. Do it another time, Red. He deserves two of them.

Can you do two in a row? Is that okay? Thank you. So he posted this letter to his ex-account and he's just talking about how grateful he is and how his heart is bursting with gratitude because everybody that came out and supported Sinners over its opening weekend, over Easter weekend, he says he wants to thank everybody who went and brought a ticket to go see it. You know, people who carpooled, who, you know, got babysitters, made a new friend while they

were there. You know, he talks about how he believes so much in cinema and the theatrical experience, and he doesn't get to do what he does if people don't come out and see it. That's right. Sinners was a spiritual experience. They mixed black music, black magic, the black church,

to create a black masterpiece, man. Drop a cool box on Ryan Coogler. That I kept hearing about was the soundtrack. I kept hearing about the soundtrack. Oh, the music was fire. Everything was fire. Like the music, the way that it looked, the coloring, the storyline, the acting.

That's what's up. Yeah, I'm going this week. I was supposed to go last night, but I couldn't make it. I'm going this week though. Same. I'm gonna go again. I'm gonna go for a third time. Just because I'm just-

Oh, so you say the movie three times? Mm-hmm. I know that's right. Yeah, I'm gonna go again for a third time. Just because, first of all, it's one of the movies you can watch. You went with different dudes too, didn't you? I went with that she and me.

Wow. And with that wedding. Wow. And with more of all, it's one of the movies you can watch. You went with different dudes too, didn't you? I went with Archie and me, and what's that with it? And what's wrong with it? That's what I'm gonna go see. And remember I told you, I actually got three dudes that day on Valentine's, three people sent her flowers. Wow. Yeah. Okay, Beyonce, you been telling on yourself all the time.

I don't know what to do. First of all. What should I do? I went by myself, first of all. Liar. I swear, I went by myself. The first time Liar! I swear I went by myself. The first time I watched it, I watched parts, I watched up until a certain point because we were in it.

You know every time you lie you stutter. Second time I went by myself and then the third time I'm going to go by myself. Tell them what you back there laughing at. Because they know you lying. Okay anyway back to Ryan Coogler. Not enough about me. I thought he did something that was really sweet at the end of the letter though. He ended the letter, then he said PS,

and he talked about the fact that people are making a big deal about him and Michael B. Jordan's relationship, him and his wife's, or they're married, or they, I believe they're married. Yeah, him and his wife's relationship, and other relationships that he's had that have spanned across all of these years, and helped him be the creator that he is.

But he said he wanted to take a second to shout out Michael Schaver, had that, you know, spin it across all of these years and help him be the creator that he is. But he said he wanted to take a second to shout out Michael Schaver, who is their picture editor who he's been working with for over 15 years. And if you see any of the photos from the film and just like how cinematic and then like the photography, like the stills or whatever from the film, fire as well too. But I thought that that was so fire that he took the time to do that to make sure this man got a shot. He said that this guy missed the press tour because he was spending

time with his family. So he wanted to make sure he got some love as well too. But Ryan Coogler been, he been out here doing a thing. I love Ryan Coogler's mustache, girl. For real, that's the first time I actually seen a mustache that actually looks good. Cause you know, that's Steve Harvey on my stage. But when you put it on Ryan with the straight backs and nothing else on his face, I can see that little resident. And he got an unprecedented deal for centers.

He did. So he actually did a deal with Warner Brothers where he will retain the rights to the film centers in 25 years. He gets the ownership rights back up. Yep. And that has been the source of a lot of conversation as well, too.

And people are talking about how, well, something- Oh, one more thing too, he secured a first dollar gross deal. Yes, talk about what that is and why that's important. It means that he receives a portion of box office revenue before the studio even begins recouping its production costs. Oh, wow. Which is a big deal, and it feels like this

don't happen often. I think the last time that people keep pointing back to that things like this have happened was Quentin Tarantino And he mentions Quentin Tarantino in his letter as one of his inspirations for what he does as well, too Yeah, but as of today, he has grossed forty five point six million dollars domestically and seventy one million dollars globally At during his open weekend opening weekend. Yeah, we got to keep supporting And that's original IP, man. That's an original story written by Ryan Coogler. Drop on the clues, mom, for Ryan Coogler.

All of the original IP that Hollywood is looking for exists in the South. Black folklore from the South. He includes family photos in his letter as well, too, because he talks about how it stems from his ancestry, which he talked about up here as well, too. And Ryan's pretty young, right? Yeah, he is young. I can, how old because he talks about how it stems from his ancestry which he talked about up here as well too. And Ryan's pretty young right? Yeah, he is young. I can look, how old is he?

I'll look it up. I want to real quick before we get out of here go back to Shannon Sharp. Back to Shannon Sharp. Back to Shannon Sharp. Oh my Jesus. Well nothing new happened. Okay. Nothing crazy as of yet.

I can check my emails. But Stephen A. Smith did go on his show and talk about the situation and he had a really good point about the career stuff and where Disney is right now with everything. Let's take a listen. All I can speak to about is what I know based on the reports and I can speak about ESPN and Disney. To be clear, even though this podcast, this YouTube show is owned and operated by me solely. It doesn't mean that I'm going to be dismissive of ESPN who employs me in my daytime job on First Take. With that being said,

it's important to point out a couple of things. Number one, I was not there. I am not, I can provide no eyewitness account. And even though I got love and respect for Shannon Sharp, and I'm sincerely hopeful and prayerful that he is completely innocent of the allegations that have been levied against him, I can't sit here and speak to his innocence or guilt from a knowledgeable place because I have nothing to do with this. I haven't seen anything. I don't know anything.

I don't even know this person. Yeah. So I mean, people wanted to update from the career side. ESPN, Disney, you see where that was going to go. And I guess this is the closer you're going to get to it. Before this happened, though, I think a lot of people were saying the obvious, that normally with a company like a Disney, they don't want to get in the mud or the mess at all. They normally take a step back.

They haven't said anything officially yet. But let me ask you a question. What did I say though? Oh baby. Listen, I'm standing with Uncle Shannon because I don't like when black men get taken down. I got to stand by him. Yes. He's a lifetime snow bunny hopper. Yes. He's a lifetime snow bunny hopper, but that's my brother. Uncle Shannon sharp is my brother. I'm standing with Uncle Shannon Sharp until the facts prove otherwise Okay, all right Yeah, I don't like seeing brothers get taken down either, especially when it's a self-inflicted but we got to remember destiny is not a matter of chance it's a matter of choice and all of this is happening because

It seems like Shannon Sharp made some poor choices and being 54 at the time hollering at a 19 year old It's a very poor choice. Okay, it is what it is. Yes, it's a shakedown, but you know people can't shake you down unless you give them something to shake. Yeah. Well, we don't know what it is yet. Let the facts play out in court.

Well, it's definitely a shakedown. But we don't know if it's true or not. $50 million? Okay, this is what you're talking about. What does that even mean? What do you mean? But we don't know if we don't know if it's true or not. Fifty million dollars. OK, so what you're talking about? What does that even mean? Because if there was if there was a violation, if it wasn't a shakedown, then she'd be pressing criminal charges.

That might be coming next. I don't know. But you did that. That's why I asked you yesterday. I asked, could they still press charges on them criminally? I mean, some of this stuff is as recent, according to the victim, as January 20, 25. So I mean, I don't know every law in the world but that's like a couple months ago. I don't see why not, right? And just watch. I would have to look up the laws in Nevada though and talk to the attorney.

Nevada says it's a 20-year statute when it comes to sexual assault. And just hearing the lawyer say out of his own mouth that they was close to a 10 million dollar settlement. Why? When you settle, it looks like an admission of guilt. Like, if you're innocent, why would you settle? Or if he does settle it, it doesn't have other people come out, right?

They always say Michael Jackson settled out that one case so other people wouldn't come out. No, that's not what they said. Johnny Cochran actually told Michael not to settle because as soon as you settle, you become a piggy bank. But he didn't settle. And everybody and their mama gonna be coming out With the hand out and accusations people coming out regardless if that's what they want to do at this point in our day and age But yeah, because remember when women remember the Cassie he settled did he settle her and then our real day came like oh

She's like excuse me who got $300? rbod? no she didn't. then he gave her $300. shut up because that's what the damn masses was worth it was I think it was like yeah it was $300. I'm about to look at a but oh but that but that to your point did he settle with cassie and then what happened? everybody came on out yeah like I want my payday too. but if he was gonna settle he should have settled before it was a lawsuit came out. yeah behind the scenes behind the scenes that's why it don't make no sense. That's why none of this makes any sense to me. Jess is correct. It was $300.30 for the... Forgot the 30 cents Jess. But that was the because she didn't sign that whole deal with the NDA and the Masters and all that stuff.

But yes, Jess, $300.30. Went through all that for $300. And Ryan Coogler's 38 years old Okay I gotta know the Mexican birthday. Oh my god. All right. Well, that is the latest with Lauren Now Lauren, you also talked about earlier that John Cena follows you. Yeah about earlier that John Cena follows you. Yeah. Don't do that. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. John Cena follows everybody. Follows a million people. Follows me. Follows Charlie. Follows Ray. Follows a million people. She was so happy. I'm so excited. He follows everybody. I'm so excited. You know what I see he just recently talked about? Getting hair plugs and bringing back hair. So you follow him. Maybe, you know, he follows you.

Maybe you should DM him. Wow, Envy. You got what? Let's see what happens when they put them tariffs on them wigs. What would your wig gonna look like? Oh my God! It's a breakfast club.

I like that. I like that. Don't stop. You're locked into the breakfast club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy, we are The Breakfast Club. Salute to Debbie Brown for joining us today. Man salute to my good sister Debbie Brown. Her new book, Living in Wisdom, A

Path to Embodying Your Authentic Self, Embracing Grief and Developing Self Mastery is out now. Make sure you subscribe to her podcast, The Deeply Well Podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio Podcast Network and Debbie will also be at the third annual Black Effect podcast festival happening this Saturday in Atlanta. We have a mental health and mindfulness panel that she will be sitting on man. So join us, you know, go to blackeffect.com slash podcast festival to get your tickets. Okay, Sarah J. Roberts will be on that podcast stage. Cam Newton will be on that podcast stage. Cam Newton will be on that podcast stage.

Carrie Champion with the naked podcast and a host of others, man. So go to blackeffect.com slash podcast festival to get your tickets and we'll see you Saturday. And Weezy is hosting. Yes, Weezy and Mandy from Decisions Decisions. Weezy is hosting. Our hosting.

Love that. Also salute to Alentia Johnson for joining us this morning as well. Yes, her new book, Flip the Tables, The Everyday Disruptors Guide to Finding Courage and Making Change, a book that Jess Hilarious does not need to read. She's already a disruptor. Period!

And listen, y'all can catch me May 10th. It's a pre-Mother's Day comedy day. We got three shows in Detroit at One Mic Comedy Club. Make sure you get your tickets at jesshilariousofficial.com. Yes, I'm doing three shows because I'm only going to be there for one day. We got the 11 a.m. brunch, the early evening show at 7 p.m. and then the late night show at 9.30 p.m. So make sure you all bring your mothers, your aunts, your grandmothers, brothers, bring your sisters, whatever, whatever, whatever. Just get your tickets and I will be doing meet and greet at the last show. JustHilariousOfficial.com. Can't wait to see you Detroit.

Now it's time to get up out of here. You guys have a great day. In salute to Atlanta, I'll be in Atlanta next week, all next week. Still promoting my book that's out right now, Real Life, Real Family and then of course Tequila Festival. Alright Sheldon, you got a positive note? I do. I just want to tell everybody man, gratitude man.

Gratitude should always be your attitude. Gratitude is one of the strongest and most transformative states of being. It shifts your perspective from lack to abundance and allows you to focus on the good in your life, which in turn pulls more goodness into your reality. So always be grateful. Let gratitude be your attitude. Have a great day.

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