The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Shyne, Raheem DeVaughn & CEO Dennis Pullin Interview + Can Your Significant Other Have a Work Spouse?

Episode Date: February 16, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Shyne Talks 25th-Anniversary Album Tour, Diddy Doc, Belize. Raheem DeVaugh Talks Healthy Love, Reinvention, New Album 'Quiet Storm Lover Tome Un.’ And, CEO Dennis Pullin Talks Virtua Health, Affordable Healthcare, NYC Nurse Strike. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Okay. I don't know what that means. I just know it's a day off. I know. And we're not even really here. We're not. That's why I said it's a day off. No, you said you're happy to be here.

I did? Yeah. You're lying again. Let me tell you something about Jess. She'd be lying, man, and we're going to find out this week why she'd be lying so much. All right, listen, on today's show, we have Shine joining us. That's what's up. Shibbidiwabit wibbidi-wo.

Yes, he would be here to talk about his new tour that he's going on. Plus, he's putting out new music. And Rahim Devon will be joining us as well. He's got a new album out. It's called Quiet Storm Lover, Tonem. Which means volume one. So he'll be here to talk to us about that this morning, man. So, hey, it's the World's Most Dangerous.

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Not just me. I'm with the coach of feeling. Hello, who's this? Hey, NV. What's your name? Morning. Devon, from Jersey. What's up, brother?

Get off your chest. I had a question for you. I have a one-year-old, and he loves Mickey. Do they have a job? Disney store in American Dream? I don't know every store in American Dream. I'm sure they got a store in there that's El Mickey. They got a Toys R Us in there, so I'm sure you could pass through there and check out

the Toys R Us. But I don't know where every store in American Dream now, bro. Okay, okay. What's wrong with your Google? What's wrong with your Google? They got Nickelodeon. They got Water Parks, but I definitely know they got a Toys Rust. You can check out their Toys Rust, bro.

All right, B. All right, Salomey, what's going on? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Yeah. I'm all right.

Yeah. I have a good day, all right? You too. Absolutely, you too. It said American Dream Mall got a store called Box Lunch and Maniso that sell Disney stuff. Oh, there you go. There you go. We can definitely check them out there.

And Jess will be there in a couple of weeks. You said 15 minutes? Yeah, 15 minutes. No full set. Nope. Okay. It's for the grand opening. Hello, who's this?

Hello? Can you hear me? I can hear you? Yeah. Yeah. What's up? Yeah, baby. How are you?

This is Ed Respots from New Orleans. What's up, brother? Get it off your chest. All right. I just want to say, I want more people to start selling. I'm celebrating black history months. I feel like lately people have not been celebrating it as much. And I just need people to have more morale about it, daily.

Who is people? Because everywhere I go, they celebrate. Justin Larson here with a Harriet Tubman sweatshirt. I got on actively black, red, black, and green. I even got on more red, black and green, Apple Watch. I'm doing an event this weekend. So people are doing these. When I say people, I mean more white people.

More white people in PWA spaces. Oh, Lord. We can't expect anybody to celebrate us. We got to celebrate ourselves. You think white people look around and be like, My golly on St. Patrick's Day, there's no black people in here. We have a black people. The black people out of my.

My God. You think Mexicans sit around and think of my mind. Like, my God, there's no black people in here. Like, no. Like, black people for us. I just want to say I do love this show and I love everything y'all do for the black community. And Jess O'Hillars, Lauren, Lorosa, Charlemagne, Envy. Y'all really do inspire a lot of black people.

And so I'm just honored to be on this show right now and talk to y'all. Shout out from New Orleans. And I have an event at Toulouse Theater on Edward Fox. Well, how do you get to do you get to? tickets and all that. You can go online. You can follow me on Edwards Pots. S-P-O-T-S. It's a white last name, S-P-O-T-S, first name, Edward. And I've been at Toulouse Theater on the, I'm hoping to have my guy Larry Marl and Big Frida be there. Oh, I hope you all me. I love Larry, man. What y'all what are y'all doing, though? Like, what is it, like a dance or? All right, so Bea, she's,

she's kind of like an exotic performer, and we're single girls. And it's about empowering women to, like, make guys get on her knees and bark like they wanted. Um, and, and, So it's a really, it's an event to promote individuality. It's an event to promote femininity and it's an event to like just have a good time about people being single and still celebrating love. So I definitely recommend to come. That sounds dope, man. Give them information one more time. The guys come because I'm sure guys will be looking for us and see what.

Guys can come. Actually, guys can come if they agree to wear a leash for free. Yeah, if they're going to get on their knees and buck for it. That's what he just said. That sounds like a decision. Yeah, so guys can get it free if you wear a leash with a girl. That sounds like a Decisions, Decisions Live show. That sounds like, man, Nea Weezy hosting that.

You can also pay to go. You don't have to do any of that. You can just pay to go and show up and have a good time. Will you have a leash on, sir, since you're a guy? Hell not. No. It's not really my thing. But I totally support it and I'm all about it.

What you should do is have... My name is Edward Spots. Again. All right, Edward, what you should do is have the white guys show up with the leashes. Don't have no black person showing... You're not. You're not. That's right.

Honestly, right? Yeah. But I just have to say, I do really do love y'all, and I listen to y'all every morning, and y'all really inspire me, and to be better and do better enough. We need y'all in this community, so please keep going and keep this show alive.

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Whether you are mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hello? Hey, what's your name, bro? I'm here. Oh, it's Will from Jersey. Wolfie Jersey.

Just briefly, I just want to highlight the fact that it's like, we're going through now, and I don't know if you guys or know what a Rochex is, is when, you know, the doctor gives you a picture or something, and you give you your interpretation of it, and then it is what you see. But now in real life, it's like certain things that used to be cut and dry. You see a square, it's a square. See a circle to circle.

There's no argument about that. But we're in the point of the country now that we can look at the same exact thing and something is cut and drive as murder and Justify it or look at it totally different You have people that can look at what happened in Minnesota To most people would like okay that was wrong But there's other people that could look at that same exact Uh situation and justify it and then some of those same people will look at what happened on January 6th Where most people will look at it like nope that was wrong what those people did and there's other people that would justify and

And so if we're at a point in this country where we can't look at things that are basically absolute and not have the same opinion on this is right and this is longer and we all see that with the same vision, we're in trouble. If we can't start at a baseline of what decency is and what right is right and wrong is, then everything else is totally off the table.

You're right. They treat and murder the way men treat getting caught cheating. You know what I'm saying? But you should be. able to, there's things that you can justify your opinion with a fact that, like, you know, Eddie Murphy had that joke.

You want to believe me or your lying eyes. Yeah. Christy Nome can say whatever she wants to say. We know what we saw. And that's what it should be about. You are so accurate. That's exactly what it should be about, right? Right is right.

And wrong is wrong. You know what I mean? Like if we're saying you got these people out here that got a job to do with you the ICE agents, okay, do their job. Do I want people impeding them doing their job? No. but I don't want them killing folks either

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Shalameen the guy We are the breakfast club Now if you're just joining us We're talking about a call That called in yesterday During get it off your chest She was a big stud And she was mad that her girlfriend

Oh I don't like how you said that Yeah Don't disrespect the stud community Like that talk about some He was a big stud I didn't know she was a big stud Like big stut energy Like big like notorious

It's big or like what kind of thing you talk about? Big stud energy. Big energy. Oh, okay. Like she was like, yeah. Like big stunt. Like Big D energy. Yeah, yeah.

I give what you're saying. She had big, big Dildo energy, is what you're saying. Oh my God. I like that. I like that. You like that. There you go.

So she called... It sounds like somebody getting electrocuted when she pulled that thing out. Damn. Y. You might as well say... Damn. that you went too far.

See, oh my God. You believe her. You always got to go to. Yeah. Play too much. All right. Let's listen to the call. So I have a girlfriend that I've been with for a year and a half.

We live together. We got a cat. You know real lesbian. Yes. Yes. Okay. Three cats in the house. Talk to us.

So she's a nurse. She's telling me a few months ago she started getting close with some girl at work. The girl is her work wife. I tell her to nip it in the bud. She don't do it. Then I go through her phone on Christmas Day. I see her texting with the girl. And the girl's talking like, what you're wearing, I can't wait to seize type of shit.

Today we had a big fight. She turned her location off and she left the crib. I drag her through her ear pods, my dude. Wow. She has the Shorty's house. Yo, damn. Crazy. I pulled up to the crib.

I said, come outside. She said, you in the wrong place. I'm not here. I knock on the front door. I'm not here. They told me they're going to call the cops, and I'm like, nah. y'all, you know. All right, so we're asking 800, 585, 105.1.

Do you mind if your significant other has a house, I said a house, workwife, or work husband? Now, I want the record to show. What? A normal show would have just said, do you mind if you're a significant other has a work wife or work husband? Actually, the stud lesbian aspect of it,

it has nothing to do with any of this. But that's what the conversation. It's starting from. But that's the conversation to start it from. It really did. I like that call. And there's an interesting story, too. It was interesting.

But that's where the call came from. She said she doesn't want her wife to have her girlfriend to have that. Yeah. So let's start with you. Would you mind if Chris had a workwife? I absolutely would mind. Like I don't think the label is going too far when you see wife and husband.

Why you just can't have a work friend? You know what I'm saying? Or a coworker that you're really cool with. Like, why does it have to be? Why does the term have to be work wife, work husband? I don't think it's appropriate. I don't like it. Now, a lot of times it is platonic. You know what I mean? But a lot of times it's not.

Right. So, and you never know. I want you, nah. Either we all friends or we not friends. Yeah, like, no. Uh-uh. Solomon? Yeah, I don't like it.

I don't like the term. Like I just said, like you shouldn't be calling nobody else your husband. You shouldn't be calling nobody else your wife. You know, those are like sacred titles. You know what I mean? Those are the titles that you earn. And, you know, you can't be calling nobody your work, husband,

work, wife. And to me, like, it applies other connotations. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Like, why does that got to be? to be your work husband, a work wife. You know what I mean? No, I don't like that.

I don't like that. That was funny. Me and Envy do it. Yeah. I'd be like, that's my work husband, but that's a joke. Exactly. And then y'all wives know each other,

you know, y'all wives know y'all. He played too much, though. He played for me outside. When we're outside of work, he's still playing. I don't want to play. But that's because there's streets, no. The streets, no, no, no, no, the streets, no, no.

The streets know, you're actually my work bottom. You're actually my work bottom, bitch. That's the way I look at me. What? What? Uh-uh. What's too fun? Hello, who's this?

Hey, this is J.R. from Brooklyn. Jay R from Brooklyn. What's up? Talk to us, Jail. What's your thoughts? What's going on? My thoughts is ain't no work wives, ain't no work husbands, y'am mean? Because, you know, soon as you get a little attitude with me, she go to work, talk about, you know, oh, he's not doing me right next to you know, a shoulder to cry on become a meet the ron.

I ain't with that. You're right? You're right? That's right. And I ain't going to front, man. Something happened on my algorithm one day where I clicked on one video and then I just went down a whole thing of videos where it's these girls talking about this is how you take care of your friend and it's like girls giving guys Hs and Fulacian. Oh, hell no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. It's like, but just-

I got to work from home. You got to work from home. She can't rock with me. Matter of fact, Amazon got to leave a package on the steps. Don't even ring the bell. Damn. Thank you, brother. Hello. Who's this? Hey, this, Nardo. Can I have all the doors, man. Nardo, what's up? Talk to us. What's your thoughts? Hey, man, good morning to y'all, man. I listen to y'all. I live in a morning. I want to start that out. Thank you, really.

Yes, sir. But yeah, I think these days now, being in a relationship, when you with a person and they're at a job site and they see this work for 9, 10, 12 hours out of the day, you know, they tend to go on lunch dates and, you know, that's going to happen. And I think, you know, you just got to either accept it or leave it because really that's what goes on.

Do you have a workwife, bro? No, I drive a truck, brother. I just started my own business. Cool of Old Express, man. Okay. You got to work a lot, Lizard? Hey. Try a have a, no, no.

I know. I heard that laugh. Hey, most definitely don't. It's that one rest stop on the route you be going. Do you got some men? You'll leave that man alone. Goodbye, darn. He's a dope.

Hello, who's this? Oh, Dion. Dion. What's up, brother? Talk to us. What's your thoughts? All right. Good morning.

First of all of y'all, everything y'all do. I think y'all are amazing. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you, sir. We appreciate you, man. Thank you. But another thing, I think the girl was insane for telling her girlfriend, she got a work wife. Yeah.

I think that you got to keep that to yourself. I've had plenty of workwives that didn't lead to nothing at all. But I ain't like I told my girl that. Like, I just kept it to me. We just getting coffee and doing stuff like that. We ain't doing nothing crazy. Now, that's the thing. The reason why I thought it was it wasn't crazy that she told her girlfriend

that she had a workwife. What made it crazy is that you really ever. with your workwife like y'all getting intimate y'all y'all flirting and dealing with each other she went in the phone saw messages and she cheat she was cheating on her girlfriend with her workwife that's where it went wrong you got crazy that's a whole other conversation i was the specifically hey you know you're all you're saying that you can't remember to yourself she is you always home for that i can't never go back for that now dion answer answer answer the real way right have you ever flirted with your workwife i mean of course that's why it's my workwife but it ain't up to

happen? No, but see, you shouldn't be flirting. You know your wife would not allow you to be flirting. Would you tell your wife you was flirting with your work wife? Of course not. Okay. But that's why don't say nothing. That's why you don't say that. No, you don't, listen, my rule is you don't do nothing. You can't tell your wife about it. You can't tell your wife about it. You know you ain't got no business doing it. Now, if you're just joining us, this conversation actually came from a woman who called

yesterday during get it off your chest. Let's listen to the call. So I have a girlfriend. I've been with for a year. And a half. So we live together. We got a cat. You know real lesbian. Yes. Yes.

Okay. Three cats in the house. Talk to us. So she's a nurse. She's telling me a few months ago she started getting close with some girl at work. The girl is her work wife. I tell her to nip it in the bud. She don't do it.

Then I go through her phone on Christmas Day. I see her texting with the girl. And the girl's talking like, what you're wearing. I can't wait to seize type of shit. Today we had a big fight. She turned her location off and she left the crib. I dragged her through her ear pods, my dude. Wow.

He has the Shorty's house. Yo, damn. Crazy. I pulled up to the crib. I said, come outside. She said, you in the wrong place, I'm not here. I knock on the front door. I'm not here.

They tell me they're going to pull the top, and I'm like, no, f*** y'all, you know? So we're asking $800-585-105-1. Do you mind if your significant other has a work husband or work wife? Hello, who's this? Hey, this juicy. She definitely's in my wife. You fat? I'm, I'm, yeah, I got called plenty fat bitches before, so I guess you could say that.

How tall are you? Oh, my goodness. I'm 5'3. How much you weigh? 200 pounds, but I'm juicy. So, I mean, it's, okay, ask for the question. Boy, if I. Answer the question, Mom.

I'm sorry, Juci. Are you somebody's workwife? She is. Oh, I'm somebody who caught my work wife. Happy, I want to say. Yeah, so my husband worked somewhere, right? We used to work together. I quit.

So I found, like, some placements that didn't work out. So, you know, because I know, like, I know how the work wife and stuff is. My husband was on drive. I was taking him the work. and at the same time I was taking him the work the work wife she got a husband too

but I didn't know this at the time because she just started so when I was leaving I see her I see her husband like me mugging the mess out of my mind so I wanted to be like what's up why are you looking at him like that

like because like it was something that didn't sit right with me so I made a mental note of it So the next time I went, she wasn't with her husband, but she was by her truck. So she was looking at my car, my two, I got real dark shit. So you can't see in there. I can see her. She can't see me.

So she's just looking ugly as hell at the car. I'm like, damn stuff. Hold on now. What kind of car do you have, first of all? What kind of car do you have? It's a big. It's a truck. I'm running good.

It's a BMW. It's a, with 10 and windows. But it's small. It's a 6. X6. That's a big one. I say she was like how she got in there. It's a truck.

It's a big truck. It's considered the SUV. It's a truck. Okay, okay, got you. He wanted to make sure it wasn't the one series. Go ahead, go. So, okay, so long story short, fast forward. The way she looked at me, I said, oh, I said, let me go through this phone.

Because I go through the phone, like maybe every six or seven months, depending on how I feel. Like, I just go through the phone. I normally don't be fine or nothing. But so I go right to her. I just the same, I caught it the same day. Only thing I'm mad because I want to see how far I was going to go go. Because I feel like I stopped it because I crashed out lightweight because when I went through the phone and went through their messages,

first it was like regular little work stuff. So then I started saying emo. He kind of corny, so I know that's his way of flirting. So like, but he don't talk a lot. So she's going to send a picture. She sent three pictures and they say, and they were like sexy pictures, but she's weak. She, she, they would make some sexy pictures.

Something about some. Ma'am, ma'am. Ma'am. Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am. Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, I need to tell you something that they don't tell you at dinner. Stop. Will you going too long? Could you get to the point, please?

I can't make a long story short. And you said you're going to make a long story short and you keep going. Okay, so, okay, so I tried to. She don't work there no more. I beat the shit out of him out of his sleep because. I told him to do this. I told him to do this. The thing was he tried to be sneaking and ain't tell me like, oh, he ain't tell me,

you know what I caught. If he would have been like, oh, man, now she's buying back on what you told me to do. All the reason I told him to flirt with her so she can work for him and he don't have to, so he can still be on the car. I don't like any of this. You opened up the door. You know what I mean? And I don't know why you opened up Pandora's box like that. I do not know why you did that.

That's her husband. She sent something like that. But you're going to beat him. up for telling him to do something that you told him to do her. He flirted, then she said he went too far, and then you beat him up. What size was the girl? She, man, I'm old enough to be her mom and I,

and that's her thing. She's like, ain't two 50, bitch? But if we sat next to each other, you would be trying to figure out who 50. Like, she, you know, she's, you know, she's hard. My thing is that he didn't tell me what she did. Like, I expect everything that she did that she was going to do.

Okay. But I had to, I had to, to go through the phone and sign and he said he was lying about it. Said he's like, no. Like, what did you lie for? I don't know. I don't lie. Because you just is messy too.

You called, you caused a lie to this mess. You told that man to flirt with that woman and there's no limit to flirting. Did you say, did you give him a limit? Right, but he was supposed to tell. Yeah, the limit was like if she bite back, you let me know. Like, uh, and then, but he didn't. And then when I asked them, like, I tried to wake him up. But he, I tried to wake him up, but he tried to fake sleep when I had that phone in his face.

I ended up FaceTime on her. Well, Mom. Yeah, you have a great day. You are so messy, juicy. Yeah, so messy. I mean, juicy, you are so messy. I'm glad I didn't tell you all my real name. But, yeah, okay.

Hey, Jess. Hey, my daughter did your nails when you was in Cleveland. So, hey. Hey, yeah. Oh, that wasn't your real name. So you picked the, you picked the song by Biggie Smalls on purpose. Wow. Wow.

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Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Shalameen the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lawn La Rosa's here as well. And we got a special guest in the building. We have Sean. Welcome, brother. Good morning. Good morning. How you feeling? I'm cold.

You're cold? You're used to this cold, man. No. Yes, you are. I am Belizean. This is why when I was here the last time I was talking about how much Belize is paradise. And this really underpins why Belize is paradise. Belize is paradise.

Did you forget them cold Brooklyn days and nights and waiting for the bus and taking the doll of head? Did you forget that? This is beyond brick. Nothing. Yeah, it is crazy. Ain't it? Nothing existed when I was in Brooklyn at this level. Shine.

It's never this cold in Brooklyn ever. It's never been seven degrees. Sean, you went to school in snow. We're now, if it's a little bit of snow, they canceled school. Yeah, it was snowing, but I don't remember being this brick. Or maybe, you know, there's a lot of trauma, so I've, you know, buried some of those memories. But I don't remember being this cold. Well, let's start off with saying congratulations.

You're about to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the Shine album, and you also have the 25th anniversary, World Tour with New York being the first stop. That's right. That's right. The Shine album came out September 26, 2000. So we're in the year of the celebration. It was this September 26th that passed, right?

But I was working out my work status here because the last time I was here, I was here as the leader of the opposition, if I recall. So I was here as a diplomat. but then I had to transition, you know, as a worker, so I wasn't able to come earlier to start the tour. But, you know, we started all of that out. And, yeah, so now we're going to perform and celebrate the album, you know, which was a very special album to me,

very special album to a lot of people throughout the United States and throughout the world. You know, I was at the Afka Awards in Los Angeles over the weekend. It's an African-American film critics award. And so Ryan Coogler, who obviously everybody knows who that is, wrote the records for most Oscar nominations for sinners. So he was getting a bunch of awards. And so when I saw him, he was like, yo, you know, we grew up to your music. And he's from Oakland.

But that just shows you the impact that the Shine album had. And I never got a chance to really, you know, even appreciate my career because that album came out September 26, 2000, and by March, I was in captivity. Yeah. So like five months, right? And, you know, that's, I would love for you to discuss, right? So, of course, that album came out and it was a huge album, right?

You had Bad Boys, that's Gangsta, Bonnie and Shine, those were the singles off that album. Then you had songs like The Commission. You had songs like N-word gone, I would kind of change that chorus. But, like, Pharrell made that record. That's like one of my favorite records. When you hear me perform that at King's Theater on May 2nd, it's going to be a movie. But there's some great records on the album. My question is you were huge back then, right?

And you got a locked up. You talked about it last time you were here. The amount of time you spent. And when you came out, you changed a lot, right? Yeah. You talked about your change. and you go to Jerusalem and you're reading the Torah

and you're getting into politics, right? And then you became the total opposite in my opinion of who you were as a young man, right? At one time you were talking gangster-ish and shooting and blowing people's heads off and you talk about stories of you carrying guns and I've heard stories about you in the bad boys office carrying guns

and pulling out all types of nines and glocks and all types of stuff, right? And you changed, totally changed. You became a gentleman that was speaking, positivity, trying to, instead of

promote crime, you were against it. You were talking unity. Trying to get kids off the streets. But the lyrics back then 25 years ago was still the lyrics

25 years ago. So as Shine to change gentlemen, how do you perform those records? I think you got to listen to those lyrics. If you listen

to Day America, I'm only what you made me. Young, Black, crazy. Please save me. I'm dying inside. Because you see it in my eyes, maybe if you would teach me how to do a craft or trade,

I'll come off the corner and stop serving that. Yay, build schools instead of prison, I stop living the way that I'm living. That's poetry. That's me crying out for help. That applies today to the NBA young boys, the same way it applied to shine back then. If you listen to, you know, what you're going to do

when it hit the fan that's integrity that's character that's me talking about you know I'm telling my life story and saying that I abide by certain codes and I get my friends in trouble

and you know being honest to who I am and trying to survive these streets I don't think my album or my raps I would say I know were never Quentin Tarantino gore, you know, violent rap.

I was talking about my life. I was giving you a dissertation as to what I was going through. And if you listen carefully enough, I was always saying, this is not what I want to do. I would like to escape this. But when you talk about the performance, people like Ryan Coogler and other people, regular people grew up to my music.

And so it's a celebration of that. You know, maybe when I'm performing, there might be a few words that, you know, I'll let the audience say and I wouldn't say. But it's a celebration of the music, of the evolution. And art is not to be condemned, right? But it's definitely not as much as what you're saying if you listen to those lyrics. It's really telling the story of, you know, 18-year-old, 19-year-old that's trying to navigate the muddy waters.

of, you know, what the system created. That's how I remember. And if you go lyric for lyric, you'll find a lot of, you know, please help me. This is not what I really want to do. But this is what I'm doing. I got to defend myself. You know, I got to protect myself. That was the energy that I was given.

And I'm not judging. Don't think I'm judging you because I grew up to this music. I play this music. I DJ's music. But it's always interesting when I have somebody like yourself or even, you know, Mace. Because Mace was probably one of the first one that we seemed doing. it where maces you know talking you know bullets hit off the car bling bling ding ding whatever and then when he comes out as a pastor and then he comes back as a rapist like well can

he do those lyrics right yeah and it's not a judge it's that when when people see people change they're for it they agree with it all right i agree with the change because some people don't have the balls to do it some people don't have the having evolved to do it but then when they do it it's like that's a good thing i understand why he did it where he's going with it but then when it goes back to the rap and it's like well how do you go back and forth and I'm like when I hear rap is like you know

fuck you I hope you die slow death as I co-c-tests see Dolores protest can't fuck with you weak rap is with your gay ass raps running around talking this and that I'm like how to shine do that you know what I mean but then on the other side but like please to my friends that Belize you know I'm trying to get the kids like I just

and I'm not judging I'm just asking but I think I think creativity we were talking about that in the Green Room, creativity is not as simple as, you know, you just read it. That's a, that's a poem. That's a work of art that people love. And this is a celebration of that. And even in my evolved state, I still help artists in Belize,

and I still support artists, you know, whether it's offset or Quaver or Pusha T or all these young kids that I see. and I run into them and we talk and I inspire them. I'm not here to tell them, you know, well, you shouldn't rap like this or you should rap like that. So, you know, my creative expressions should be studied in Harvard. Should be in a museum. They're enshrined in history.

So it's not something that I'm ashamed of. That was a young shine. That's how he felt. That's what he was going through. And he expressed himself. And so celebrating that expression, this is not for, you know, a 12-year-old kid or a 13-year-old kid. to come to my concert, you know, these are adults that are going to be in the room celebrating

that body of work. Now, now, if you're asking me about my new album, that's not what I'm going to be saying. And I would hope not. You're not slagging in the streets. But I think, I think it would be, it would be very unfair to deprive, you know, people that love that body of work. Correct. from that celebration and as I said there's a way for me to do it right I don't I don't necessarily need to you know there's crowd participation right

so I could you know who want to ask us to ask you know what I mean what type of what type of brother was slaying and do bad things in the street bad boy like I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do thank you thank you Lauren thank you Lauren thank you Lord I mean envy has a point

I mean, but I think you probably got a lot of this even before this tour when you, I mean, just as a politician now, what people know. Because he really ain't performed since we've seen him, right? I think he did. So the great thing is to wait and see what is Sean going to do? Is he going to set? It's the album. And no, you're going to go in a suit. You got to wait and see.

That's nothing. You can't come in the super time. Why can I? Hold on, hold on, hold on. My good brother. Hold on. Who did it? Who did it?

want to do it with the fitted low going in the court with the Gucci suit with the tie come on you right come on envy come on envy what changed your mind I think last time you were up here you were like you weren't thinking about performing and you said the only time that you think you would perform is if it was like a Grammys or a BET and they were showing you love that you weren't interested in performing what changed your mind I mean 25 years is that's a milestone people don't really get to celebrate a 25th anniversary and still be relevant a 25 years later. And also, I'm no longer in the House of Representatives,

so my focus shifted somewhat. I'm still focused on becoming the next Prime Minister of Belize at some point. I had a 2030 agenda, and so I'm way ahead of schedule on that. I still focus on helping the people in Mesopotamia, which is a constituency I used to represent. But when I lost my seat, you know, I had a few things that I'd been delaying

due to being in the legislator. So now I'm involved in real estate development for tourism in Belize. I get to finish my memoir. God bless you. Thank you. I have film projects to do. Like, I have a lot to do that I couldn't do

because I was in the legislator I'm one of those people that's a singular obsessed with whatever it is I am doing. And I just didn't feel comfortable focusing much on the creative as I did when I was in the legislator. Now I'm not. So I have a couple of years before the next election to do this. And this is not random. It's my 25th anniversary. I'm not going to be able to celebrate my 25th anniversary ever again.

So it's a great way to celebrate 25 years. of Shine the first album and to create new music I think it's dope because I mean I'm from New York so I remember the impact that record had on New York but I also feel a little bad for you as well right and the reason I say that is

when that album came out I don't think you ever got a chance to enjoy it because at that same time you were on court and you never got a chance to go to tour because you got locked up so you never got a chance to enjoy the fruits of your labor during that time. October

November, December, pick jury January, ready for trial, February, convicted March 16th. So I think not just me, but the people that love the music, never got the chance to celebrate it. So this is really a celebration, you know, and we're going to bring some special guests to help me celebrate from the hip-hop world, from the dance hall world. It's going to be an incredible. So what do you say, a people? Just one last question on it. What do you say to people at say, Sean, is this about the money?

Money? No, come on. No. That's irrelevant. That's not a... You don't take these steps in life just to get a check. I've been good. I spent millions of dollars in Belize in politics.

And so I became the leader of the opposition. inconsequential you know you just got to do things which is in line with what I had said to you it would have to be something special and so this is special the 25th anniversary is special the albums that I'm going to come out with are attached I think if you go back to that interview I mentioned it um that I would do albums that were attached to the film projects so I never put out the album for the honorable shine documentary So that's going to be especially curated album. Then I have the TV series, the bio TV series about my life.

That's another album. Then we have the motion picture. That's the final album. And then I would by that time be ready for the elections. So, you know, what should I do? Should I just sit around for three years and not do anything? Like what you mentioned is the furthest thing from my mind. It's just how do I spend my time?

and what have I been neglecting? What have I not been doing that I could do? You know, when you think about all that I've been through politically, been through a lot, I'm writing a book on that. You know, there was a coup in my party. You know, they tried to overthrow me. They broke all types of laws. I had to take them to court.

Like, it was, that was a movie within itself. And so I lost my seat because I, I took all that I had and gave it to my colleagues because I was a leader. So I took what I thought was enough for myself. But I made sure because in Belize parliamentary system of governance, you can't become prime minister unless you have a majority of the seats in the House of Representatives. And as the leader, you're responsible for getting everyone to 16. So we need 16 seats.

So I made a promise I'm their leader We're in the battlefield It's bad We're all about to go down But I'm not gonna You know turn around And be like alright well let's get in the tank

And you know They're gonna figure it out I made sure everybody had tanks And I made sure everyone was good So that was a lot So now as I catch my breath And I think about You know what to do next

I'm grateful for my own sanity And for my you know My emotional stability spirituality that I have something to do which is incredible to be able to celebrate my 25th anniversary

to make new projects to be in you know to be able to go to California and go to Dr. Dre's house and you know to go in the studio and for him to play beats for me that's that's a blessing. That's a miracle like a lot of people can't go to California and get in front of Dre.

So yeah, so, like, that's where I'm at with my art and what I'm doing now in life. And as I said, the projects, the real estate projects, you know, being able to work with somebody like Don Poo, you know, Robert Cummys, you know, Brooklyn Chapp House to open a Brooklyn Chop House in Belize with a resort. You know, like, so dope. So I have a lot of blessings, very fortunate. And I never shied away from who I was as an entertainer. I reject the idea that, oh, well, if you're an entertainer, just be an entertainer, just be an athlete. You know, you shouldn't be involved in politics. I'm not going to get involved in American politics.

That's y'all's problem. Or whatever it is. But I just believe that hip-hop is so diverse, and we could do anything. you know we were or are we fashion designers um you know movie producers restaurantees hoteliers like that's just that's always been hip-hop speaking of our problem or do you ask citizenship in the u.s or is that you ain't ain't worried about it no one i'm i'm i'm a um a one uh-one um worker so extraordinary ability workers so i have visa as an oh-one extraordinary ability worker so i could live and work in the United States.

What would you say to people, and I've seen you talk about, you know, your relationship or lack there of with Diddy, but what would you say to people who feel like you're finally getting kind of like, I mean, the support that a lot of people didn't give you back when the trial was happening because Diddy was like the mega superstar, but now people see him in a different light. So people are more kind of open to hearing anything that doesn't make him like this big, mega perfect person. Well, Diddy's not really interrelated with anything that I'm doing right now. I think that I've been able to build my legacy and I've always had the support of the hip hop community. There was a point where like the hip hop community you remember, it kind of hated Diddy when I went away and they didn't want anything to do with him. but you know being um the charlatan the very convincing person that he is he knows how to get everybody you know back in line but i've always had support you know throughout my incarceration um you know jZ was coming to rikers island on the mayback um you know when erf goddygaard

blessed his soul uh was at the height of his power and murder ink they all came up there to try to sign me Nas, you know, Dr. Dre, I was just talking to my guy, Imani Heli, who was managing Keisha Cole and Future and a bunch of, you know, superstars. Mani. Mani, mani, yeah. Mani Healy is saying, yeah. So he, when he first discovered Keisha, it was between him and Dr. Dre,

because Dr. Dre had this new kid called the game. And they wanted a verse from Shine. and Manny, who I came up with, Raw Flapbush, my guy we started in the cradle, he wanted the record for his artist. But everybody wanted a shine record, but it only could be one. And I gave it to Manny because of our brotherhood.

So I wouldn't say that, you know, people always embrace Shondon when I came out. Remember I did a deal while I was away. Yeah. Went number one again. Despite remember and you know I did the I don't know if double excel people remember double Excel the death before the sign of cover and And the most hip-hop most wanted cover and I was always telling people who did he was The irony I guess is just that well now You know everything everything everything has collapsed and every and the curtain has been removed and now it's like

It's you know irrefutable for for most people everything that I said back then but then for me it's like I'm I'm gone it's like you know for real in the clips you know respect to them on on that great album where you know that record where he says I'm so I'm so far gone like I'm you know as soon as they they wanted I don't want it no more I'm somewhere else so it's like for me I'm not I'm not there that was rumored that they asked you to be part of the diddy doc you know I saw I saw Alex that directed the film.

That's her name. The reckoning did he do. Yeah. Yeah. I know it was Alex. Because I had heard that too. Remember I hit you and I'm like, hey, what happened? And I told you, I'm coming out with a new album and you ain't saying that.

No, I said. Listen, I'm not like. You got a friend to know. No, no. She wants the scoop, right? So I'm like, listen, you know, I'm coming out with a new album, new tour, all that. I'm thinking she's going to go back. Well, listen, Shire said he's working on a new album, but he's going, you know, pop up.

I didn't do anything, though. No, I didn't know. wanted you to say that's why I hit you with that. No, I didn't know. I thought you were saying that like when a time is right. I didn't know you wanted me to say it. I thought, you know. You got to be specific with me. Yeah. You got to be, you got. So did they reach out? But, um, she said she did, but I tell you to, I tell you honestly, I'm so focused on me

and believes and all the great things that are before me. I didn't see the documentary. Are you to watch him? You didn't watch it. But I, I heard, I heard. I heard. that is great, as powerful, is award winning, worthy. I, you know, I heard I was in the documentary, even though I didn't speak,

but obviously they told the truth about what I've been saying, so nothing that I'm saying is different than what I've said before. But I didn't watch it because I, I just, that's my trauma. So,

so without getting into what, he did to Cassie and what he did to all the other people that have accused him. And I see that like there's some people that saying, oh, well, you know, well, Cassie, Cassie wanted it or, yeah, that's what she signed up for. You know, we all can't be wrong, right? So it's like, I know what he did to me as far as sending me to prison. He was one of the most powerful people in the world.

and he used his money and his power to make sure that witnesses lied people went in there not to say listen shine was defending did he because because we i owned up to having the weapon there was no dispute to that but it was a matter of self-defense and he had the power to make sure that if people went in there they told the truth and shine was defending all of us he didn't do that he said listen somebody got to go down and and he wasn't a gentleman You didn't say, listen, listen, just cop out. Or this is how we're going to do it. I'm going to make sure family good for life, you good for life. We need you to take this hit. No. He was like, you're going to take the hit. Because the DA was offering me 13 years.

So I couldn't even get a reasonable plea. And then I think the judge offered me like seven years. But I say all that to say, what he did to me, I would never do to another. human being worst thing in the world to send somebody to prison um so i could imagine all these other things that people are saying but his celebrity is so loud was so loud and you could still see it creeping in sometimes because you see people come out and and start attacking the victims it was the same thing that kind of happened to me where after a certain point people are like shut up we don't want to hear about that you know let's party let's drink some

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You can ask me whatever. And that's why I didn't mention anything because I felt like it was unfair to bring you into that conversation because we're reporting on dating his documentary. And it's like, oh, well, Sean and new music. So when you said you were willing to come and talk, I was like, all right, I'll make sure it happens so that you can have your own conversation about that. You're good. You're good. I like how you got. She just slid out of that one. She's great.

You're going to DME. Talk about my concert, damn it. Talk about my album, damn it. We're here talking about it. Well, listen, not that you're going back on tour for the money. And you're right. Because I didn't even grew up. You got to ask because these are the things people think.

So you clearly don't know. Why would somebody think that? It's not like I'm out here stunting. No, no. I'm like, I take the train. Like, I'm a regular guy. Like, it's not like I'm. I think it's because it's been a long time.

It's not like I'm fronting. Like I'm out here. Like I'm out here. Like, I got a hundred million music and you heard something. The first thing that people say is, well, why did they come back? I'm not, but I never got a chance. But last time you said, he was like, I don't want to perform.

Because I was in the legislator. I was in the legislature. You came up here. You can't pay. No, no, no, no, but I'm still Obama. Hold on, hold on. I got the, I got the polo crest on, but I still got, you know what I mean? Obama.

That's right. All right, I right. And then the shot. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Time to be dunked today no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not.

can these people do these things? Called donkey of the day and it really caught me off guard. Damn, Salome, who got the donkey of the day of day? Well, Jess O'Larry, it's donkey of the day. It goes to a real estate agent named Stephanie Lovens. Now I'm going to let you know right now the mayonnaise is heavy on this story.

Okay, Stephanie used to work for Century 21. We all know what Century 21 is, correct? Yes. Big real estate company. Stephanie was a real estate agent there. But she isn't anymore. She got fired. Okay, she got fired because Stephanie was dining

at a Mexican restaurant. in Columbus, Ohio. Salute to everybody who listens to us on 106.7 to beat in Columbus, Ohio. Drop on the clues bombs for 106.7 to beat in Columbus, Ohio. Thank you for listening to the world's most dangerous morning show. Now, before I tell you about Stephanie, I just need to remind you that since the start of President Trump's second term, thousands of undocumented migrants have been getting arrested and deported. We know this, okay?

Tom Holman and Ice Ice Baby, not playing. And there are a lot of undocumented migrants in this. country who are scared to death. Okay. ICE has asked me to go on a couple of ride-alongs. There is a part of me that wants to see for myself what is happening, how what's happening, so I can properly report on it. But let's just stick to the story.

I just needed to remind you of what's going on in this country to give the proper context to this story, okay? Stephanie Lovens was dining at a restaurant called Kazula's Mexican canteena. And she had a waiter named Ricardo. Now, Ricardo is a U.S. citizen. But who cares about that minor detail at a time like that? this, okay? Stephanie got upset with Ricardo, and she did this. Let's go to ABC6 News for the report, please. Customers head into Casuala's Mexican canteen on East Broad Street. Just days after this photo was

snapped of a receipt, a customer left behind Sunday. That includes no tip and a hateful message reading, You Suck. I hope Trump deports you. I think it's despicable. You know, that's not who America is. You know, we're all immigrants. Just hours after the photo of the $87. bill was posted to social media. It went viral. The restaurant chain, not allowing ABC6 to talk with employees, but in a statement telling us in part, we are deeply disappointed

by the offensive message left on a recent receipt which goes against our values and the welcoming environment we strive to create. There is no place for hate in our restaurant. Can't talk to our employees. Everybody ain't got their papers. But in the signature section of her receipt, Stephanie wrote, I hope Trump deport you. This isn't fair

to migrants, okay, because a lot of Mexicans, especially have just become the poster children for undocumented migrants. And that's not fair because most Mexican immigrants in the U.S. are documented. But a significant number are not, but that does not give people like Stephanie to write the profile them. Now, I know what a lot of y'all are thinking, because I was thinking it too. How bad was Ricardo's service that Stephanie wanted him deported? Like, this just wasn't a random attack, was it? You just don't go from zero to deport him.

Did he not bring the guacamole and chips to the table fast enough that she asked for no salt around? on the rim of her margarita and ricardo bought one with salt anyway she wrote i hope trump deport you followed by zero you suck zero is the amount of the tip that she wanted to leave but how bad was the service that she did all of this did ricardo not speak proper english so there was miscommunication i'm just trying to figure out i was just trying to figure out how terrible a mexican service must be if you want them deported i'm gonna be honest every encounter i've ever had with a mexican in the service industry has been pleasant okay dropping the clues bombs for all the Mexicans in the service industry.

They are super friendly, respectful, very hospitable, warm, which is why they thrive in the service industry in this country. So how bad was Ricardo's service that Stephanie not only said, I hope Trump deport you, but you suck and got zero tip? Well, if that's what you were thinking, that's wrong. That's not what happened. Stephanie decided to have a side of racism with her chimichanga because the restaurant had a one coupon per table policy.

one coupon per table let the record show that one coupon per table usually means one coupon per purchase so you can get one item you can't use the coupon for the whole table i know that's where the discrepancy lied but the reason stephanie is getting donkey of the day is because she at first denied any involvement in fact she went on social media and claimed that her credit card had been lost or stolen and that someone else used it but this proved to be a lie because The restaurant has cameras. And the restaurant reviewed the footage and confirmed that Stephanie had been sitting her ass right there in that restaurant the whole time. By the way, I like a good liar. Okay, I like a person who makes up extravagant lies and follows through with the lies. Stephanie went on Facebook and said, my credit card was lost, are stolen, and somebody attempted to use it. Thanks for the notifications. This has been reported through my bank.

Then she went on LinkedIn and said, thank you for all the recent notifications of scammers and profiles. hackers. I recently discovered a loss or missing credit card and an attempted purchase. I appreciate your patience while I manage the situation. Then she deleted all her social media accounts all together. Smart. Because she doesn't got the heart

to stand on what she said. I like a good liar, but I like a person who stands on what they said even more. If you wanted Ricardo to get deported, then stand on that. But I guess that racism wasn't worth losing your job, was it? Please let Chelsea handler give Stephanie Lovens the biggest

Hi-ha. Hi-ha! That is way too much, Dan Menez. You're a real estate agent. Work for Century 21. You lost your job because you couldn't use a coupon. You want a man deported because you clearly not selling any houses and wanted to use your coupon. I'm with you.

How bad was the service where you got a pen and wrote that down? Well, no, the service wasn't bad. That's what I thought at first. When I first read the story, she was actually upset because she couldn't use the coupon. Damn. That's what she was upset by Ricardo Obel. Yes. And we know you love...

Yeah, so what's next, show me? Five playing. I just say, we know you love the service of Mexico. I do. I love the service. Yes, I do. And? That's all.

All right. So what? The Breakfast Club, good morning. Yep, it's the World's Most Dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Shalame Nogne and the guy, just hilarious. NB and Lauren are out, but we got a special guest in the building right now. He's got a new album out, Quiet Storm, Love a Tom. Is it Tom Un?

Yeah, Tom Un. Yeah, Volume One. It's that volume one for French. Oh, okay. We learn something new every day. Rahim Devon is here. Yes, yes, what's going on? Good morning.

She still sick. Shut up. Shut up. Anyway, hi, Rahim. What's up, birthday, girl? Thank you. I know you still celebrating. Yes.

Getting it in. How do you feel, my brother? I feel good, man. You know, I feel vibrant. I feel like I reinvented myself once again. You know, and I'm thankful just to have my name and the conversation after all these years. You know, 20 years of the love

experience and being in the music business we celebrated that last year you know 2025 so I'm actually currently in approaching year 21 of my first album you know what I mean and uh it's great man it's great it's a great and man you know and what better

place to be in the morning breakfast club thank you brother I feel like your name is always in the conversation like we had Jill Scott up here and Jill Scott was talking about how like there's certain artists that it ain't about number one records it ain't about you know going triple platinum or anything like that.

But their name is just always relevant and in the mix. And I feel like you're one of them, especially when it comes to R&B. I appreciate that. You know, I think that that's pulse, that's culture. You know, that's what that's, you know, that's, that's what I always strived and aspire to inspire to be. You know, at this point of my career. And yeah, it's, you know, it's not, we make it look easy as an independent artist. I've been independent for 15 years.

You know what I mean? So I've been on, I've been my own trial in there. and Guinea pig for a lot of different things. You know, even this release, you know, this is an early release. There's two releases that have happened. You know what I mean? Shout to Even.Biz and Mad Rodriguez for creating a platform that allows us to go direct to consumer, you know, cut out the middle minute third party.

It's the second time Jay Coe has used the platform. You know, most recently and being back outside, I actually discovered the platform through La Russell, you know, who's the case study artist. Shout out to Russell. Yeah, and then we got technology like this, you know, NFCs, you know, digital real estate, where we allow, you know, the fans to get exclusive content, memorabilia. And, yeah, man, so it's about being on the cutting edge of it, you know. And I got in early, too, you know, if you know, you know, investment talk, you know what I mean?

So it's about not just, it's not just about utilizing the tool. you know, find a way to have, you know, ownership in the tool, you know what I mean? Partnership in the tool. Screaming is, like, you've been around long enough to see both sides of the game. Screaming is just a waste of time for artists. Well, I mean, yeah, absolutely.

When you see Jimmy Iveen going publicly saying that streaming is on his last leg, I mean, you know, for me, it's just like, you know, as somebody who came out in 2002 with the first record deal with Job and then the album dropped in 2005, you know, as a curator, and the first R&B soul singer to make mixtapes, you know what I mean?

And being on the cutting edge of innovation, like it's safe to say, CDs are back. Yeah. Physical, physical merch is back. You know, which, by the way,

you know, you get the album on Even, you get access to CDs, tape cassettes, vinyl that I got coming. For my top tier supporters on Even, you get a second album that's not even out. You know what I mean?

You know what I mean? So, so, so, so, you know, no shade to any of the DSPs. You know, I still rock with app, I still rock with title. You know what I mean? The digital release for the album, you know, where it goes global,

will be on March 6, you know, you know. But right now, we're focused on the super fans and giving the super fans an experience that only they can get. And, you know, I'm excluding Spotify. Like, that's the only place I'm not putting my music right now. I don't, you know, they run out ice ads, you know. Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Spotify's running ice age? Yeah, they were running... You know, you think you catch that? Oh, they would definitely run it. And they put it on your music. I mean, they'll put it on anything without telling the artists.

Yeah, and then the thing where... And then there's a thing where this is a lot of... If you go down the rabbit hole in terms of moral compass, it's just things I don't agree with. You know what I mean? And then you add the fact that, you know, we get a fraction of a penny as an artist anyway. They've been robbing as blind.

That's a billion-dollar company, and we get a fraction of a penny. So when you utilize a platform like even, where, you know, a couple My first release or even was 2013 Valentine's Day, February 13th. That project went on and to do somewhere between like 30 and 40K

and only 500 people bought that album before I made it public to the world. You know what I mean? So you do the math, 500 people, you know, 30 or 40K, you know what you have to stream to make 30 or 40K? Like, you know what I'm saying these days?

So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, I applaud the fact that, you know, that CDs are back and vinyl never left. And even for the cassette tape lovers out there, I'm trying to figure how we can get it, how we can get it on A track, Charlemagne. Yeah. I don't, you know, interesting, because I feel so sorry for artists. I would be the person that would go to your page and buy your album and download it to my phone. Yeah. I mean, I would do that. Yeah.

Yeah. Because when you say a fraction of a, you know, much a fraction of a. Penny is. And they don't even make. pennies no more. Did you know that, right? I mean, hey, that's modern day slavery. But did you know? No, no. I knew.

Yeah, I got me some stashed. Yeah, right, right. I got a 50 roll. So the name of the album, Quiet Storm Lover, Toneham, what's the significance? Well, you know, French, you know, French, I mean, transparently, I don't speak, a leak, a Fritz. Right. Closers and Giss is to the title of this album, right? But, you know, French has always been associated with the love language, you know, you know what I mean?

and, you know, I probably, you know, Pepele-A-Pew probably knows more French than I do. Why, too, me just say volume one. Yeah, volume one. Like, why did this feel like the first chapter or something bigger instead of like a standalone album? Well, you know, I won't give all the game away today, but I will say, you know, having the number one nighttime show and the music and the DMV right now. I've been doing the original Quiet Storm.

I'm now doing radio full-time. I did through Friday. And it's been so surreal because I grew up listening to H-UR. I grew up listening to the Quiet Storm. you know, Melvin Lindsay is where it started in D.C., you know, Kathy Hughes was the one who came up with the idea, gave it to Melvin. And so now to be in that hot seat, I'm living out my, I want to say, like, anything I wanted to do as a child, I'm in that space right now.

Like, you know, I wanted to do radio. I always wanted to have a go-go band. I got a go-go band in D.C. called the Cranc Crusaders. Shout to the Crank Cusaders. You know, I'm doing that. And I'm doing radio. So this album, I think, was unique about Quiet Storm Love of Volume 1 in particular

is that it's a fusion of, it's a fusion of my first love and my newfound love, which is radio and media. And, you know, and when you throw that shit on, you know, it sounds like, you know, it's like, you know, it's a vibe. You don't have to, just let it play. I like when R&B loves. The Lay and Play Zone. I love when R&B lovers do R&B radio shows.

Like, keep sweat, sweat, hotels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Y'all, Andre Harel, God bless the dead. He used to do champagne and bubbles. Yeah, yeah. It's a vibe, you know. But it all started, it all started with the Quiet Storm,

you know, that format, you know what I mean? So to be, you know, they say you want to make God laugh, make your own plans. To be now doing the original Quiet Storm in D.C. It's just been like, I feel like I'm getting my good karma back for all of love I poured into the city, you know?

Now with this album, are you writing what were you writing about what happened in your love life? Or this is accredited or just subjectively? Yeah, I mean, more importantly, just you have to test the music out.

So you got to make sure, you know, I'm big on custom service. So when you put it together, you got to make sure that it works properly. Yeah, you got to have it. This is be blunt, yeah, you know. But I mean, yeah, I mean, so what's also unique about this album

is all slow jams. So, you know, I'm going on record and saying like, you know, like, you know, this is the slow jam album of the year. Real R&B. Let's be clear. That's be clear. This is a slow jam album of the year.

You call you. So if you're looking for, you know, I got, I got, you know, I can be, Rahim Devon can be many things, right? But this is slow jam album of the year, you know. I got some more, I got some more treats coming, you know, in the next 12 to 24 months. You know, if you, if you love conscious Rahim, mixtape, mixed tape, Riham, you know, but this is like, this is slow jams, man. When you think about the quiet storm, you know,

when you think about Keith Sweat Shop, you know what I mean? Like, you think, you know, it's, it don't even require too much talking. It's really about that playlist, that laylist and what comes, you know, what's coming on before and after. You know, it's interesting, R&B today, like, it leans so heavy into, like, basically sing and sounding like rappers, right? So it's like a lot of, I guess, toxicity in a way. Where does healthy love fit in modern R&B coaching? I think it fits, man. you know, I think that speaks to someone's mental health

a lot of time in the space you in, you know, when you, you know, the older you get, you know, I remember somebody telling me, you know, in my 30s, in my 20s, you know, the 40s would be the best time of your life, you just got to get there. That's right. Yeah, so, you know, by the time you get 40, you know, a half a century,

you know, which battles in life to pick, you know what I mean, you, you, you understand the concept of time and that we're all running out of time, you know, from the time we get here, you understand, you know, the gift of decision, free will differently, you understand the gift of one another. I feel like those are the three greatest gifts.

And if you utilize those, you know, through your artistry, or, you know, as it relates to matters of the heart and intimacy, all the things, you know, life is just a lot easier and simpler. But, you know, it's a learning experience and, you know, that toxicity is part of, it's part of growth, I guess, you know? I love that you had Ari Lennox on the voicemail to start the album. What other significance other than her being from, you know, B&V as well? That was it, you know what I mean?

And just that was it, you know, I feel like, you know, I'm always waving the flag, you know, for home, for the home team, you know, whether it's Ari, you know, whether it's Waile, you know, the Craig Crusaders, the backyard band, Red Essence. You know, artists like Neptune 21 who's hanging out with me is just an incredible artist, you know, on a come up. She looked like she got boss. Yes, she do. She just ready. She's ready to. She's fired. She got the, and shout out to her and her team because, you know, she's, you know,

being an artist is being many things. It's being, is knowing when to be the artist. It's knowing, it's starting, you know, is knowing, being able to do content. You know what I mean? She's been helping, you know, been in charge of content for my rollout. And, you know, that, it gives me an opportunity to do what I'll do best. and just like invest in and what's next. You know what I mean?

Like because that's, you know, that's something that, you know, me coming up under the tutelage and the mentorship of like DJ Jazzy Jeff and, you know, Kenny Dope, Louis Vega, you know, DJ Terry Hunter, like a lot of those guys I met and countless artists as well through DJ Jazzy Jeff. You know what I mean? So I'm just trying to pay it forward, you know, with artists and just representing, you know. And I represent for Baltimore, too. You're with it.

With the cop, and you already know what it do. Shout to my Baltimore family, too. That's right. But sure. You said something interesting. You said that toxicity is part of growth, right? And it's funny because I think about the R&B that I grew up on. The music didn't even reflect maybe the lives those guys were living.

Which is crazy. Like, the music was all about love. Yeah, yeah. It was about love making. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, these guys were begging for their women back. Like, why? I don't understand why.

we don't have that energy now? It's almost like the lives those guys were living outside of the music back then those people are doing now and projecting it in their music. You know, Charlemagne, some will blame the generation before us. Some will say

that, you know, it wasn't passed down. You know? You know, you know, and some may argue you know, we're a product of what we see. You know, you know what I mean? So, you know, if we want to,

if we want to see more of that love vibration, we got to, you know, breathe life into it. I'm, you know, I'm a powerful manifest, I believe in manifestation, you know, power of prayer. And, you know, but it's the art of, I think it's a big difference

between believing and knowing, you know what I mean? And I believe in the art or, you know, I'm in the art of knowing. Yeah, man, you know, I hope that I think with this reason, I won't even call it a resurgence. I'm glad to Jill is back out.

You know what I mean? I'm back outside. I stay outside, you know what I mean? But I must admit, like, we're turning up on the promo side of things and the marketing side of things, you know what I mean? For far too long, I mean, I've probably been an industry best kept secret, you know, and continue to do the work. It's about consistency, though, you know, and being consistent.

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wherever you get your podcast. What is it? 20 lessons of love. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Now, what's the most important lesson of love that you learned, my bed? There's a lot of else.

Love lesson learned. In order to be happy, you know, happiness requires selfishness. Expound on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Happiness requires selfishness. You know what I mean? So, I mean, I think, I think, for one, being able to, to be just raw, blunt, and honest, you know what I mean?

Dodge the gray areas. Gray areas can be, gray areas can be, can feel like a safe space, but they can cause confusion. You know what I mean? But yeah, it's okay to just say, it's okay to say no. Word. Like, you know what I mean? Happiness requires self and desire.

It's like, it's okay to say no. It's okay to, it's okay to want to be alone sometimes. you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know a lot of times we're so busy we're so busy focusing on making everyone else happy you know family partners whatever case may be right like and there's nothing left for you so you got to start with you you know how can you say you know love somebody uh adorn somebody if you don't like love love and adorn yourself you know i don't like the person that you see when you look in the mirror. Be the best version of yourself you can be for you before you engage with the world

and someone else. I literally been telling you with that all day. Your first last and best love is self-love. Yeah, absolutely. You can't recognize it in yourself. You'll never recognize it. Yeah, yeah, you'll, you'll misuse it, you'll abuse it, you'll, you'll be self-sabotageing to it, you know. Now, you're a tourist right now. I'll help you into astrology. May 5th, single, the Maya Torres. Okay, okay, that's the Chris Bromber thing. Yeah. Very much. Oh, you love that.

That's a holiday from Mexicans too. You love it. You love it. Favorite holiday now. Anyway, what type of lover does that make you? If you're into astrology, because you know.

I feel like there's two types of lovers. I mean, you have givers and takers. So me, I'm the type that wants to please my partner. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm an OD. You know what I mean? In some cases, if that was necessary, you know? Yeah.

Yeah. But, I mean, I feel like, yeah, you got givers and takers. So you said you're a giver. Yeah. Yeah, I'm definitely not the two-minute brother. Okay. But not just... Unless you get yours off for 30 seconds.

Not just the second, but I mean just... Damn. A giver. I mean, I mean, just a giver in the relationship, period. But I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, for sure. For sure. You know what? Have you ever been a giver to a fault, though?

Like, has that ever... I think we all have. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I think when I learned... When I learned to not... I'm kind of giving this away. It's like... It's like a...

So much. you know free game you know a book I'm working on right now but like as well but like when I when I learns not to treat the person I'm dating like the girlfriend and not to treat the girlfriend like a wife because it's me and what that means is that

boundaries are you know what I mean but these are things you learn through therapy you know through healing trial and error you know and yeah so So, yeah, I mean, yeah, so every, so, so, so, so do it, um, do it to be intentional, but do it with boundaries. Yeah. Boundaries are necessary. Yeah.

You know what I mean? What's the sign? What's your sign? I'm in a crazy. Yeah, see, I got to stay away. Not, I'm just a mess up. Damn. I think you're right.

Oh, man. I used to, I wouldn't. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I would, I would, I would, because you can't hold people just accountable to the, to the, to the, to into the sign. Now you'll be jammed up. I'm talking about people will be going down a rabbit hole. Yeah, like you can't hear. Yeah, you got to. Sanchez her.

It's in the sight. I think at the end of the day, it's about, you know, it's energy, it's energy, you know, and energy is a frequency, right? And it's reading the room. Like, you know, it's compatibility, it's growth, you know, you know, any, no matter what the scenario is, you have to compromise is going to be evolved. Yeah. Because none of us are perfect, none of, none of, none of us are perfect and we're all,

growing in real time, hopefully. You know, good friend of mine says, evolve or repeat. You know what I mean? And to add, and to add to that, the only time you should be repeating the steps is in the process of evolution. Yeah.

Rahim Devon, man, thank you for joining us, brother. Quiet Storm, Love of Volume 1, Artum, Oong. Yeah, thank y'all. Thank y'all so much for having me. Appreciate you, man. Let's get into you right now. Introduce the record, brother. Yeah, you know what it is. You know who I am.

You know what I do. It's a love King of So and R&B. Radio Rahim Devon, aka Mr. Quiet Storm, and check it out. This is a world permit. We're taking it all the way, number one. You, the 20-year anniversary edition,

right here on the Breakfast Club. You did? It's that radio shit right there. I like that. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Salameen Nagar.

We are the Breakfast Club. Lawlerosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. We have the president and CEO of Virtual Health, Dennis Pullet here. Welcome, brother. Thanks for having. How you feel, man? Good morning.

Thank you. What is virtual health, my brother? Virtual health is a academic health system in South Jersey. So we have about 400 locations taking care of the people of South Jersey and Philadelphia, Delaware. Dope. They mean taking care of people. Is this for people that don't know? Is this older people or is this people that just have, break it down a little bit?

We provide health care for the community. So no matter what you need, from birth to hospice. So in everything in between, we take it. take care of all that needs our care. Now, break it down a little bit. I mean, that's needed now more than ever, especially with the way that, you know, they've got the healthcare.

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, yeah. You know, it is, and particularly in the communities that you guys all represent and sort of communicate with, it's even more important to me. Y'all, you black too. Oh, you? I don't have the community that you have. I don't have the audience that you have.

When I say, y'all, I'm talking about the people that tune in to listen to you every got you. And so that community, is very important to me. It's important to our organization. I was glad to see. I didn't know that you were a black man in this position, but glad to see it because I know a lot of what you guys focus on is early detection.

You know, the thing that a lot of people don't realize, of the top five largest health systems in the country, three of them are run by black men. And so we have a special affinity to try and do what's right, particularly in light of everything else that's going on in the country. We're committed to taking care of our community. I was going to ask with everything that's going on, like she kind of mentioned, with the health industry, what should people do, right?

So, you know, there's so many different scenarios, right? You hear from people that they go get a surgery in December, right? Now when they go back for post-op in January, their insurance is no longer covered by that hospital, so now they have to find new doctors or not covered at all, or they can't afford it, and they're saying that there's surgery or whatever, they have is not necessarily insurance doesn't cover it. So they have to go through the

emergency room. So what do you tell those people and those individuals that are going through all the things that I've been told? You ask a great question. You know what? I think the number one problem in health care today is health literacy. It's people understanding how to navigate the system, understanding how to take care of their bodies. I mean, you're a car guy. Most people spend more time focusing on the maintenance of their vehicles than they do their own body. And so people showing up at the emergency room, which could be, you know, $1,500, $2,000 visit when it's something they may have been able to do through a virtual care or through a primary care at $40 or $60.

So it's really about trying to educate people on how to better navigate a very complex system. How do you ensure you're showing up with purpose every day? You're not just treating this like a business. First of all, you've got to try and better understand the people that we're taking care of. and understanding what their needs are and demonstrate that we're going to be there for them when they need us, how they need us, and where they need us. And being consistent. You know, a lot of she was asking about taking care of certain population,

and black men in particular. You know, there's a lot of distrust in health care. And it's warranted. You know, our history has told us that it's certain individuals don't get treated the same. Yeah, yeah. And so for me, you know, I try and create an environment where we have cultural competencies where people understand the needs of

certain communities and we show up and we do what's right and not always, you know, what's best for the moment. How can I get that information? You talk about, you know, people should understand more, but where can people get that information from? And usually it's, you know, it's bottom

of the ninth and they can't look for that information. It's something's happening now and I need to get it fixed. Yeah, because, you know, if you look at it, black women have a much higher incidence of death from cancer, particularly breast cancer, not because cancer shows up more in black women. It's because they get diagnosed at such a later stage than the disease have already progressed. So how do you prevent that from happening? You know,

there's more information now than ever. But the problem is there's also a lot of misinformation. So finding a reliable source, finding somebody you can trust, you know, not on TikTok, but maybe a community physician, having a relationship with the health system, like a virtual or many others, that's what's important. Educate yourself. I was going to ask, you know, a lot of times people feel like hospitals in the quote-unquote hood are worse than hospitals in different areas. They feel like doctors in the hood, you'll get better treatment in different areas.

What do you say to those? Because some of your hospitals and your care centers are in the hood. As they should be. As they should be. But I will tell you, unfortunately, some of that. is true. Really? Sometimes, you know, people show up with their own biases.

And that, when I'm talking about people, some of the staff, we have to educate folks. And so at Virtua, we do unconscious bias training because there's this misnomer oftentimes when some of us show up in emergency rooms that, right, the drug seeking or our pain isn't as severe as we make it out to be. And a lot of that is because people have their bias about those individuals that are coming in. And then the other part of that, urban care, it is tough, you know, because of the social economics of it. You know, when you have a community that, unfortunately, may not be able to afford insurance and rely on the government as its payer. People don't realize that the government is the largest payer of health care there is.

We always want to talk about if we had a socialized medicine or one-pay. Well, right now the government is the largest payer. And unfortunately, it's through Medicare and Medicaid. Medicare pays us 85 cents on the dollar. Medicaid pays us roughly 55 cents on the dollar. And so that's at a loss. And so it's difficult to have an ongoing, you are all business people, to have an ongoing business enterprise when you're big,

pay or pay you less than what your cost is. That's one thing I would say that I dislike about certain hospitals. When you go into hospital... He had a bad prosthet screen in one. Oh, my God. He was with me, so he held my hand on the job. He held your hand.

I'm glad y'all shared that experience and I didn't have to be there. Not on the part of it. One thing that bothers me, I feel like when you go to the hospital, they care more about insurance than the actual problem. You know what I mean? Because they'd be like, yo, put her in the chair.

I need you to sign this to any other. And no disrespect, my mind is not on these people. My mind is on that person that's crying, that's, that's hurt, that's sick, that's that. And that's the one thing that always bothers me. It's like, it's so quick to throw that paper in your face and to worry about, and I know we all got a job and I know it's a business, but if my kid is crying or my wife is this or somebody's that, like, I feel like it's not personal enough. You know, I will agree and disagree.

Okay. Because I think in general, people that work in health care actually care. They're there because most of us have a higher purpose. It's not just about the money. It's not just about the title. You absolutely want to take care of folks. But there's a business side of it as well. And, you know, we have at virtual, I have about 16,000 employees that I have to be able to make sure we have the resources

to pay for their salaries to provide the care that you want to receive. And so should you experience that when you walk in to be made to feel like a number or made to feel like if you don't have insurance, then you sit over here and we'll get to you and we get to you? No, that should not happen. Does it happen? It does, unfortunately. And we have to take responsibility for that,

which is why you need more people that actually give a damn, you know, about all the people that come in at Virtua and one of the things that I sort of pride myself on as being a champion of humanity you know it doesn't matter what you look like it doesn't matter your ability to pay or not what matters

is we need to provide you to care when you need it thank you for joining us to stopping in today man we really appreciate you Dennis Pulling ladies and gentlemen and like he said you can go to avertua.org that's v-I-R-T-U-A-org and Charlemaine apologizes for using out of your doctors for colonoscopy. He goes every couple of months.

What's wrong going to get checked? You know, I'd rather him come in when he needs to as opposed to when he apt to. So I appreciate you guys having me on, giving me an opportunity to encourage people to invest in themselves and taking care of themselves. And keep doing a good work, bro. That's right.

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