The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Terrell Owens Reveals He Doesn't Date Black Women + More

Episode Date: October 3, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey y'all, Niminy here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Like a blink eye. You think I'm going to come here when this shit ain't hot? DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Being here next to all of you guys, it's really big. This is one of my favorite shows to do. Just because y'all always keep it 100, y'all keep it real. But what better place than here? I think everybody should go on The Breakfast Club and start with that if you want to shake it up. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlamagne. Lindsey, what up? Are we live?
Starting point is 00:01:47 This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. Made it. We live. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:01:59 Hey, how's it going, man? Kai. Kai, what's up? Get it off your chest. Why you sound so down, brother? No, I ain't down. I just woke up, man. I'm about to start my Uber shift Get it off your chest. Why you sound so down, brother? Nah, I ain't down. I just woke up, man,
Starting point is 00:02:05 by the sound of my Uber shift. Your Uber shift? Where you do Uber at? I thought he said he woke up smoking Uber. I was like, God damn, you got to get your life together.
Starting point is 00:02:13 He said Uber. Where you do Uber at, bro? In Brooklyn. Oh, Brooklyn. Okay. Is it true that Uber takes like,
Starting point is 00:02:20 what, 40% of what you make? Nah, I don't think they take 40 percent once the ride pops up on your screen you just accept it you get all the money that pops up on the screen okay i don't know why everybody be complaining about it and we appreciate you brother no doubt uh appreciate you too but yeah i just want to let all the drivers know when they'll be on the road stop with these emotional turns y'all be making. The bike lane is to the right. Every time you drive.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Every time there's a driver in front of another driver and they trying to get around, they always make this emotional turn. Try to get around the driver in front of them. And I'm always to the right. Drive with it. We are to your right. Stop with the emotional turns. Y'all going to hurt somebody.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Okay. All right. Well, thank you, man. No doubt, man. Have a good day. Bless. Yes, sir. You too.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Hello, who's this? It's your boy KP from the Bronx. KP from the BX. What up? Get it off your chest, bro. What's up, man? Listen, I'm calling because I want to be positive this morning. Like, in the next, like, five, six hours, I'm getting ready to get on the Carnival cruise
Starting point is 00:03:20 and go on this eight-day trip to Turf, St. Thomas, and Puerto Rico. Hey. With the fam, I know it's going to be a good vibe. That's Turks, St. Thomas, and Puerto Rico. Hey. I know it's going to be a good vibe. That's right, man. Set the vibes early. I like that. Who are you taking? Your wife?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Nah, I'm going with the fam. I'm going with one of my close best friends, his mom, everybody like that, my extended family. Oh, that's beautiful, brother. Enjoy, bro. Enjoy that, man. Put your feet in the sand of Turks and Caicos. Huh?
Starting point is 00:03:43 Say it again? I said put your feet in the sand of Turks and Caicos, man. It's a beautiful place. Yeah, no, in fact, I've been there one time, but only when I was younger, so I know it's going to be great now that I'm an adult. Have you been on a cruise before? Yeah, probably like nothing. It's like my ninth time cruise. I haven't been on Carnival, Caribbean, Disney, all types of stuff. So you're a professional. You know where you need to go, what time you need to go to lunch and dinner, and how to book all those scourges and all that.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You're a pro. No, that's a fact. My grandmother taught me a long time ago. We've been going on courses for years. She's not with us no more, but it's something I like to keep doing because it makes me remember her. Okay, brother. Have a good one.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Sean. What's up? Sean, what up? Get it off your chest. Hey, as a founding member of the congregation, we are about to revoke the membership from Charlemagne if he don't change his era.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Change my what? Soft girl era. We don't want that anymore. I am in my soft girl era, bro. No, we will revoke your membership. Why? You a soft girl? No. We vote your membership. Why? You a soft girl? No. We don't
Starting point is 00:04:47 like to hear you like that. What membership are we talking about? What club am I in? You're in a real man club. You don't know what he identifies as, sir. We definitely do know what he identifies as. I'm in my soft girl era, okay? He's a soft girl right now, sir.
Starting point is 00:05:04 He looks good. Show them that you got 24. Look at that. You ain't even got a good Dente. You can't even be in the iPhone family. You still got an Android. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:05:16 If you need to vent something on your mind, call us up right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Break it up. This is your time to get it off your chest 800-585-1051 we want to hear from you on the breakfast club hello who's this yo this is prince free from virginia beach seven five seven what up brother in your beach what's good family Look, man, let me get this off my chest real quick, man.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Because I got a daughter. She's 20. She's at Norfolk State. Sorry about that, Envy. But anyway, she's in Norfolk State. And, you know, I went up there to go get her. And all these kids are walking with their phones. They're not even paying attention.
Starting point is 00:06:03 So every morning, I'll send my daughter this text message, ABC, always be checking, always be careful. And I want to send that out to folks, man, because there's a lot of evil going out there, man, a lot of evil lurking. You know what I'm saying? So my message this morning is to tell these young folks, man, get out of them phones while y'all walking.
Starting point is 00:06:24 No place outside, you know what I'm saying, the outside is not safe. So I just want to send that message out, man, on my favorite. You absolutely right. But shouldn't you call your daughter if you're trying to get her to stop looking down at her phone? Why would you text her? Why would you contribute
Starting point is 00:06:39 to the problem? Now, I've seen that to her before classes, but Charlemagne, you're totally right, bro. I do call her. One of the things is, with my mental health thing, is that we don't call and we don't talk. We're not humanizing things anymore. But you're
Starting point is 00:06:56 right. I text and I call. But I know that she be in class, so that's why I text. As you should. And shout to everybody heading to college. Shout to Norfolk State. Shout to Hampton, of course, and Virginia State, Virginia Union, all the colleges out in Virginia. Salute to the 757. All right, brother.
Starting point is 00:07:10 No doubt. No doubt. He's right. I can't stand that either. I hate, like, if I pull up, you know, to pick my daughter up from cheerleading and all the girls are outside looking down at their form. And pay attention to your damn surroundings. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:23 You can't even see nothing coming. Hello, who's this? Hey, Slag from North. Trucker. Hey, I just wanted to say, you know, my chance to talk about the car show, man. It was amazing. My family had a good time. I was amazed to see how your kids were able to walk around, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:42 play with other people's kids. And it was, like you said, nothing bad happened. We had a great time. Yeah, nah, my kids had a great time. I mean, they love the car shows because it gives them an opportunity to really just enjoy themselves. And like I tell everybody, that's what it's about. It's your kids playing with my kids. And, you know, we have enough security and safety there
Starting point is 00:07:58 to make sure all the kids are straight. But also, it's a big community. Everybody's looking over each other's kids. And just everybody had a great time. And salute to you bringing your family out, brother. Appreciate you. Hey, thanks. Hello, it's a big community. Everybody's looking over each other, kids, and just everybody had a great time. And salute to you bringing your family out, brother. Appreciate you. Hey, thanks. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:08:09 Hey, good morning, brother. This is Blue from the Bronx. Blue from the Bronx. Get it off your chest, brother. Yeah, this one right here is for Charlemagne. You know how he always say, Florida people are crazy, the Bronx people are crazy? That's a fact. Yeah, he'll say this little flick.
Starting point is 00:08:22 He'll make a slick remark, but then he don't let nobody respond. He hang up the phone. I just want you to stop hanging up the phone. Give the man a chance to respond. I don't even control the phone, sir. But yeah, respond to him. Yeah, I just want him to, like I said, there's some crazy people in the Bronx, yeah, but I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:08:39 you don't never give nobody a chance to respond. So what I'm telling you is all the slick stuff you be saying, give the man a chance to respond. It I'm telling you is All the slick stuff you be saying Give a man a chance to respond It's not slick, it's a scientific fact The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida This is science, sir Why you arguing with science?
Starting point is 00:08:55 Nah, nah, I mean All I wanted you to do when you make your slick remark Instead of just hanging up I'm letting you respond and you're not responding You just showing how crazy You just showing how crazy y'all are this morning, sir. I tried to let him respond. He just said, I just want you to let me respond. I let him respond.
Starting point is 00:09:12 He just said, I just want you to let me respond. He's just showing how crazy they are. 800-585-1051. Get it off your chest. Call us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:09:29 That ain't calling my phone. Tell her, tell her. What's up now? It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our guest co-host Kiki here. Hey, friends. Now we're asking 800-585-1051 what are some signs you are getting old? This conversation comes from Kevin Hart. We reported in the rumors early that Kevin Hart was trying to I guess race somebody in a foot race and got himself injured.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Let's hear it right fast. So we're asking 800-585-1051 let's start with you kiki okay now for me when i knew i was getting older and i'm i'm an early 30s so i'm still you know a little young but what tells you is when you hang around younger people so like my sister-in-law is younger than me shout out to quila when we go on vacation i want to go to the spot and lay down right she want to go to the club we gotta turn up we want to go to the club. We got to turn up. We got to pop bottles. And I also know when I go over to somebody's house and they music real loud. Like, why is everything so loud?
Starting point is 00:10:31 That's when I know I was getting old. And also, when I discovered baseboards in my house. Like, I didn't know. I was just living life in apartments. I didn't realize I had to clean a baseboard. And I finally figured out what that was. I was like, yeah, you're getting old. Yeah, for myself, there's a couple of things um one i i when i drive now i listen to the traffic report to see what the traffic is gonna be oh my god yeah yeah yeah also i watch the news to see
Starting point is 00:10:57 what the weather's gonna be okay that that also um if i'm going somewhere like i'm touching a long flight i watch what i eat oh Meaning like if I know if like, let's say I like cheesecake and I want cheesecake before I catch a flight, the person sitting next to me is going to have a bad flight. There's certain things I know when I drink too much, I know I'm going to have to go to the bathroom. There's certain things.
Starting point is 00:11:17 The nap thing is always one. I do the old man basketball. So, you know, I got six kids. Yes. Two boys, four girls. And when I play my kids in basketball, I no longer am competitive real. Like, I back them down like my dad used to do me, just old man style. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And just kind of just do like a hook shot to beat them. Because I'm tired. I don't want to play with them no more. I'm tired. Like, I just want to win and then go. Those are a lot of them. And then I got tennis elbow. And I haven't played tennis in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Okay. And I think that's an old man's injury, tennis elbow. So I got tennis elbow right now. Charlemagne? I was born in 1978. The question is, what can't we do anymore after a certain age? Your memory's messed up. I can see it right now. And he was just struggling with Instagram, too.
Starting point is 00:12:00 How do I tag Michael Bivens? Where are my knees? Can my knees help me? Yeah, when you get frustrated. What can I do anymore? Damn near everything. And especially everything
Starting point is 00:12:12 I don't want to do. And it'd be the littlest things. Like, I realize now why our parents, you know, used to be in like the living room
Starting point is 00:12:18 and they would call us no matter where we was at in the apartment or the house or the trailer just to get them some water. Get them the remote control. The remote control
Starting point is 00:12:26 was literally right there. I'm talking about like right there a foot away from you. But boy, when you be on that couch after a long work week or after a long day, you don't feel like getting up to do it.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So come use your little young legs and get it for me. Another thing I can't do anymore at my age? What's that? Small talk. I don't want any small talk. I have no problem
Starting point is 00:12:43 either sitting around in silence or if you're talking to me about something i don't care about i might tell you shut the f up right in the middle of the conversation because i don't have time for the small talk i don't care in no way shape or form and you know another reason why i knew i was getting older i started wearing crocs okay oh yeah i started wearing crocs when i won crocs first come out look at them ugly ass old ass people shoes nothing wrong across but now you ain't mentioned hair dye you ain't realize you was getting old Oh, yeah. I started wearing Crocs. When I went Crocs first, I was like, look at them ugly ass old ass people shoes. Nothing wrong with Crocs. Why you ain't mention hair dye? You ain't realize
Starting point is 00:13:07 you was getting old when you had to start dyeing your beard and painting your fade? I don't know how you'd be out here leaving them little stains on t-shirts and stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yes, he did. He did that to me. What? No, he didn't. He put it on. No, you know what? He had it on himself. He had a hoodie on one day
Starting point is 00:13:24 and it was all on the neck of the hoodie. That little black powder. Yes, that little black powder. Kiki, whose side are you on, Kiki? Whose side are you on, Kiki? I don't know about your side. She's just observing like the rest of us. Why is she laughing at me, Kiki?
Starting point is 00:13:37 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Why you don't do that no more? You stop? Because I keep calling you on it? Yes. That and the Walgreens ran out of Just For Men,
Starting point is 00:13:47 so I've been stuck for a little bit, but I got a new delivery coming today. Don't worry about it. Okay, okay. You a hater, man. You a hater.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Kiki, don't laugh. I know. I know. You act like you ain't dyed your hair before, Kiki. Oh, baby, you not. Well, no, I don't dye my hair. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I put a whole wig on, so it's a cheat code. It's a cheat code. Trust me, he would, too, if they made beard wigs hello who's this hey it's kd from milwaukee hey kd from milwaukee we're talking about signs you know well i know i'm only 30 and it's a bad example for sure i gotta carry a kit around with me that got biofreeze uh ice packs and all of Why? What was you doing in your 20s? Word.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Well, I was always a sports head. So, I mean, recently, like probably like a year and a half ago, I was at a track meet and they had like a little parents relay. And I was like, you know what? I think I still got it. I started running. I got 50 meters of the 100 meters. And all I know is I was on the ground next.
Starting point is 00:14:43 How old are you? I pulled my hamstring and I have been the same since. How old are you? I pulled my hair straight and I have been the same since. How old are you? I just turned 30 in February. Man, y'all is babies, man. If y'all don't cut it out. I will tell you another sign is always going to the doctor. If I get a pain, an injury, or any funny feeling, I go straight to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I'm just having good health insurance. That's what happens. No. Plenty of people who would love to just go to the doctor whenever they feel something but they can't because of the health insurance. I's what happens. No. Plenty of people who would love to just go to the doctor whenever they feel something but they can't because of the health insurance. I'll go to the ER.
Starting point is 00:15:09 If something hurt too much, I'll go straight to the ER. I'll tell you another good sign is when you go to the doctor and you get a good report back. Oh, baby, you be so happy.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Man, I got one Monday, okay? It says, overall, my results are excellent despite a high calcium score for your age. There's only minimal plaque in your heart arteries.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Furthermore, your cholesterol profile is excellent and well below goal on your current statin medication and aspirin, which I would continue. Your blood pressure and heart rate are those of a man 20 years younger. All these factors contribute to a very low 10-year cardiovascular risk of only 3.5%. Optimal for men of your age would be 3% so you are in very good shape what about your butt though
Starting point is 00:15:48 salute to Dr. Puma and everybody at Soarin Medical what about your butt though man shut up man I'm not even colonoscopy that's a mask I did that already
Starting point is 00:15:55 I got no polyps no redness no nothing I think you need a second opinion this booty I don't I'm good
Starting point is 00:15:59 that booty brown I'm sorry all I can think about was sexy red. Stephanie! Hello? Hello. Hey, Stephanie, good morning.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Good morning. How old are you, Stephanie? 50. Okay, now we're talking. Now we're talking. Now what are some signs you're getting old, Stephanie? Hey, listen,
Starting point is 00:16:20 I've been like five, six years ago had to go back to missionary. I can't do the flips, the tricks and the turns. So, yeah, we back on missionary. No more back shots for you. No more back shots. You ain't riding nothing. They ain't riding, they ain't kneeing, they ain't doing nothing.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Okay, okay, okay. Okay, I need to know the measurements. I need your height. Girl, don't do it. Don't do it, girl. Don't do it, okay. Okay, I need to know the measurements. I need your height. Girl, don't do it. Don't do it, girl. Don't do it, girl. I think there's other factors involved other than age. I'm so, so serious, missionary.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And it's not for long. I'm going to get 20 in and that's it. I'm so serious, too. How tall are you? How tall are you, Stephanie? 5'2". How much do you weigh, Stephanie? Don't do it, girl.
Starting point is 00:17:04 160. Oh, girl. 160. Oh, okay. Now, what's the excuse? I mean, a little round, but nothing crazy. You know what I mean? She just lazy. She's just lazy. God, I'm having these bones.
Starting point is 00:17:15 These bones ain't right. Damn. Well, how old is your boyfriend or husband? 50. Oh, sorry to that man. Were you 60? He 50? No, both of us were 50. Oh, 50. Might be time to tag somebody else in, mom. Yo, sorry to that man. Were you 60? He 50? No, both of us were 50.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Oh, 50. Might be time to tag somebody else in. Yo, shut up, man. Stephanie, you have to go. He can. I got the permission. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Oh, you gave him permission? Thank you. I got permission, yeah. I'm just saying, Kiki. You interested? What's going on? When she can't do nothing but missionary,
Starting point is 00:17:40 it's time to tag somebody else in, especially if he is able to do other things. Is he able to do other things? That's right. not selfish like that go on do your thing y'all are bugging that's y'all married y'all supposed to look y'all supposed to go all the way to the end how long y'all been together y'all been together a long time oh 20 years oh yeah no no no he's supposed to take that this is just like if he lose a leg she's supposed to still stay with him regardless she ain't gonna be like all, let me go get a man with some legs. No, she
Starting point is 00:18:05 got a stick of it. I don't want nobody. I don't want nobody. I love you. That's right, girl. You stay with your man. He probably be catching chocolate. And you can always get a vino lotion. You can make miracles happen with a vino. Who's the man? Alright, never mind. And she ashy.
Starting point is 00:18:21 She don't even know who a vino is. She don't know a vino. She don't know Jergen. You know what I'm saying? She think Gold Bond is where you go when you get locked up. Oh, my God. What's the moral of the story? The moral of the story is aging beats the alternative, so enjoy it. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:36 The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. The brother Malcolm Jenkins. Welcome, brother. Appreciate y'all having me. How y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:18:49 I'm blessed black and highly favored. How you doing, my brother? Doing well, doing well. Malcolm got a new book out called What Winners Won't Tell You. I love that title. Break that title down. Yeah, I mean, you know, a lot of the times we see people who have a lot of success, who champions and we hold them up high, but oftentimes we don't see, you know, what makes them that way. And oftentimes we kind of glorify that, that process and look at the end, you know, the end result. But for me, I've always been a bridge builder and wanted to make sure that I
Starting point is 00:19:17 contextualize the 13 year career that I just finished, you know, all of the things that I've kind of accomplished by showcasing like that journey, that process, that evolution of, you know all of the things that i've kind of accomplished uh by showcasing like that journey that process that evolution of you know a man uh into what you see now and really that's to me that's what you what you want to do that's what you want to live you want to have impact on things you want to leave people with breadcrumbs to that success uh and so i kind of open up the the reason i don't have a shirt on on the cover is because it's a very uh vulnerable memoir it's one of the things where i show kind of the failures the, how I developed into the person I am today. Nobody likes to show that no more.
Starting point is 00:19:50 You played in the NFL. You're a former NFL player. You got drafted with New Orleans, and then you played for the Eagles. Oh. You got that cowboy shirt on. Is your shirt like kryptonite to you? No, not at all. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:20:03 We know what's going to happen at the end of the year. He's going to the Super Bowl. I don't know about that. He says that every year. Every year he says that. This the year. What year does that ring from? You said that last year.
Starting point is 00:20:12 1996. You said that last year. You said that last year. Now, what made you want to write this book now? You talk about the winning and the losing and being so open and vulnerable. What made you want to write the book at this time? Yeah, so, you know, one of the things as an athlete your your life is usually documented by other people everybody else writes about you talks about you and we rarely get to hear the athlete talk about their own
Starting point is 00:20:33 experience and contextualize it for themselves i got two young daughters like you know that i think a lot about what they what i want to leave to them how i want them to view me and so i figured it was better for my story to be told from my own words. So I ended up writing a book myself, you know, cover to cover is all me. And it's one of those things that I'm always involved in everything I do. So, you know, for me, it's one of those things that, again, everybody doesn't get to see what goes into the process that goes into the mindset, the cerebral parts of not only football, but life, the failures.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And I think that has always been important for the people I know who are watching me to see that part of it, because that's the difference. You know, most of the time, though, you'll see somebody at the top and you you think you can't get there. You seem so different, you know, some far from your example. And hopefully this this kind of closes that gap for the reader to see that none. These people who have success are just like you. They go through trials. They go through tribulations as those who continue to fight. Those continue to play. You know, the idea, you know, that life is this journey. You don't especially with sports. I think life is like a game.
Starting point is 00:21:36 We tend to only enjoy life or the game after we've won. The victory is when you enjoy life. But really the the winners will tell you that you enjoyed playing the game and in life you have to enjoy where your feet are enjoy the process regardless of the results and and really that's how i've lived my life that's how i've grown to to have success and i try to live that every day i love um in the book you talk about a lot of the things you did as far as in the social justice space because you were the head of the players coalition hey what's up this This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're black, Asian, white, Latinx, indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable and equitable America.
Starting point is 00:22:47 You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. When it comes to social justice and being an athlete, what's the balance? Man, it's, you know, one of the things we had to do was find what our role was, you know, because we're not the experts. We're not devoting our lives to be activists, but we do have a role, you know, as role models and a platform to do something. And I think one of the things that we found to be very useful
Starting point is 00:23:25 was to place ourselves as conveners. We can bring communities to politicians, to police. We can use all of the intention that we get to put pressure on those who are in power, especially in our local markets. And that's really how we formulated Anquan Boulder and myself, formulated the Players Coalition as a vehicle for athletes all over the country. If you say, I want to get involved, you know, with the things going on in my community, you want to get involved with politics and whatever, you want to lobby. Here's the education on the issues locally. Here's who you need to push on. Here's people are power.
Starting point is 00:24:00 And here's some resources to put those things together. So, you know, we've we kind of worked through that on our own. And then once we figured out the plan or figured out what worked, we just held the door open for anybody who wanted to come. It started with a group of about 12 athletes and now it's expanded to 12 professional leagues of sports, which is far greater than anything I could have imagined when we started it, having impact with, you know, grassroots organizations all the way up to you know politics what are some of the accomplishments that the players coalition
Starting point is 00:24:27 did that we didn't hear about uh so the majority majority of the work was like hey all right talking about the negotiation with the league and things like that but what we were able to turn that into you know so specifically my focus was in pennsylvania uh one of the things i was most proud of was uh we pushed for a bill to get passed called the Clean Slate Act. And most people don't know one in three people in America have some kind of criminal record. And so what this did was roll back or expunge those records after 10 years if you hadn't violated for nonviolent offenses. And we were like, you know, that's a low hanging fruit. Let's get that out of the way. But that ended up affecting like over three million people across the state of Pennsylvania. So that's that affects how you, you know, what jobs you can get, where you can live. And it's these are happening all over the country, Louisiana, Florida, Ohio,
Starting point is 00:25:29 all the way to Cali. And it's being done not only by me, but obviously by athletes all over. Now, when players were kneeling at one time, how did you guys support the players, if at all? Yeah, well, I was raising my fist. And that's how the Player Coalition kind of came to about. And I talk about it in the book uh just about like that moment everybody wanting to figure out what to do but not quite agreeing which seems to be over the time of
Starting point is 00:25:53 history a common thread like people having you know the same ideals a bunch of people want being very passionate about you know pushing black people forward or getting involved but having differences of agreement you know differences of opinion and strategy. But my biggest thing was always about the work. I'm like, whoever is about, you know, making the change and putting in the time and effort to do it, let's collaborate, let's work together. And we've been doing that over, you know, over the course of now,
Starting point is 00:26:19 coming up on a decade. I feel like you took a lot of heat back then. Yeah. You know, Eric Reid called you a sellout. You know, y'all had y'all if you watch football your famous confrontation you know during the game before the game as well like have y'all been able to have a conversation since then no you know and a lot of people you know even in those times were like hey man you need to reconcile that you need to squash that but i've always maintained that you know i never wanted to
Starting point is 00:26:42 be besides that and i was very disappointed after that game on myself because i gave the media that image the last thing i wanted was two black men fighting over trying to save their people or trying to help their people it's counterintuitive it doesn't work and so for me i've always maintained that like i'm proud of the work that they did i'm proud of you know all of us were we're trying to figure it out at that time but it's not me it's not on me to reconcile the situation like i never had a problem i don't hold any gripes um i was always focused on the work i knew that regardless of how you know i was feeling the things that were coming
Starting point is 00:27:13 down to me the things that people were saying my focus was always on the people i got into this not you know to lift myself up so my feelings didn't matter it was like okay what's the what's the goal here and it's to help so all of that to me was distractions. And I had to stay, you know, stay focused on the goal, why I was there, why, you know, I put myself in that position and just maintain. All right. We got more with Malcolm Jenkins when we come back. His new book, What Winners Won't Tell You, is out right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Malcolm Jenkins. His new book, What Winners Won't Tell You, is out right now.
Starting point is 00:27:48 What was your thoughts on everything that's going on with Colin Kaepernick and everything that's happening right now? What's your thoughts on that? I mean, it's confusing at this time. It's almost seven years away. You almost want him to just kind of stand on his legacy. I think the way that it's being approached now and the way that it's being kind of laid out,
Starting point is 00:28:07 it almost, you know, it's like worrisome. It makes me a little worried. What you mean? I mean, you know, you're talking about, you know, somebody who wants to play in a Super Bowl that's down like begging to be in the practice squad. Seven years after later, it's, you know, forget the politics or who he is.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Any athlete that's out of the game for seven years and is still begging to be in a practice squad is concerning to me. It's that now being on the other side of retirement and having to deal with that identity change myself, you know that it's a strong thing that he's dealing with. And you worry about, like, okay, how does one handle transitioning into the next phase of life, the next chapter? Because that one's done. Like, you can't play football forever so we need to see you know what that next example is and i it's with so many people following them i think we all want to know like all right what's that what's that next move you know some people would say that you know he's been playing similar
Starting point is 00:28:57 to you i'm sure since you were three years old so that's all that you know and love and maybe on the bucket list was playing in the super bowl or winning a super bowl i should say so for some people who say maybe he hasn't got that off yet and then some people would say you know like even Charlamagne has mentioned that he feels like that letter was kind of like an embarrassment and a disgrace that you know you go from pro athlete to Super Bowl contender to practice squad no I don't I don't think anybody want to win a Super Bowl that bad I don't think it's about the Super Bowl because that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about just getting on the roster. But who knows?
Starting point is 00:29:30 I think that's the one thing that leaves the concern is we don't know what the motivation is. But I don't know that one is chasing a Super Bowl. I think it comes down to and I'm watching it in many teammates of mine.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I don't know if you saw Kelsey. Jason Kelsey did a documentary about his life last year. He was trying to decide if he wanted to play or not. At the end of it, he goes through all of these things that he loves most, his family, his wife, his health. But he is so afraid of moving on to something else. He says, I can't imagine myself being the best in the world or anything else. And so he decides to come back. He's obviously playing again this imagine myself being the best in the world or anything else. And so he decides to come back.
Starting point is 00:30:06 He's obviously playing again this year. And I watched it. Most people applaud it. I watched it in fear because here you are saying all the things that you value most, you're willing to sacrifice because you're afraid of stepping into the unknown. And I think that's one of the things that I know for me, the opening chapter in my book is fear. I've learned to always step into the things I'm afraid of.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And that's how I knew I was ready to step away from the game is because the only thing that was holding me there, I had made enough money. My body was healthy. I was, I was focused on other things, but the only thing really keeping me there was the fact that I was afraid to step into the unknown of, you know, I've been playing football since I was seven, same, same type of thing. But for me, my, my response is to lean into that. So it's, I think there is a lot of that going on with athletes right now. And I think with Kaepernick being who he is and what he means to especially our people I think you know we always want him to be the the example but I think it's a great kind of reminder that everybody's human everybody's dealing with their own stuff
Starting point is 00:30:58 and oftentimes too when you when you're when you're when you don't let go of something you block a lot of your blessings you never know what what the future is going to hold if you keep holding on to the past. Yeah. I never thought I would write a book. Never in my life thought I would write a book. Wow. And it wasn't until, like, yeah, you start to let go of these ideas of who you're supposed to be and these limitations we've kind of put on ourselves. And you lean into the unknown and say, well, okay, I can't tell myself i can't do this until i've proven
Starting point is 00:31:25 myself you know until life proves that i can't do something i have to always assume that i can and for me it's just always about like trying to expand you know the human experience as much as possible i'm a forever learner i'm curious about everything and the more and more you learn the more you do you start to realize you know that there are no limitations that any of the problems that you have in your life you are going to be a base of that solution and that's a journey it's not easy to get there that takes a lot of trial and error i love how you started chapter two you started with a quote we must all suffer one or two pains the pain of discipline or the pain of regret regret which one did you suffer the most i think i suffered both until i learned you know the pain of discipline i i think i've gotten so much more comfortable in the pain of discipline than the
Starting point is 00:32:10 pain of regret um both hurt though and i think you know especially when you talk about like even love is one of those things i've come to find love is like an action word i take love out as a noun in my vocabulary because we we often love and feelings but to really love somebody or even love yourself it looks like discipline it doesn't we'll look in the mirror and say i feel good about myself so i love myself or i feel confident so i must love myself and so we love everybody else with feelings but when you start to just look at actions like how what are the things you do to love yourself okay do you have discipline with what you eat how you work out how you take care of yourself you know do you go places you don't need to are you reading are you cultivating
Starting point is 00:32:49 these parts of yourself those things are uncomfortable they take discipline but they always expand who you are they help you grow they help you go to where you're trying to get to and i think a lot of the times we try to avoid that discipline and end up just still being uncomfortable with the results because we regret it not having that you know not taking advantage of those times so for me i'm always trying to focus on you know the end goal doing those small things daily uh that starve yourself maybe sometimes there's some enjoyment but at the same time you know you're moving in in a direction you want to go now you mentioned earlier you had two daughters and i always ask athletes when they come up here if you did have a son uh would you want your son to play in the NFL uh I don't think I would have a desire for him to play if he wanted
Starting point is 00:33:28 to you know for sure I got all the keys to to show you how to get there and stay there you know it's a dangerous sport but everything is is dangerous and I think one of the things about me I my first that first half of my career I was I would get these nagging injuries my neck I talk about in the book I had to get a bunch of epidural shots in my neck i'm like i thought those were just for women pregnant women yeah i was getting them in my neck to play football you're on heavy kind of anti-inflammatories things like that so there are negative things but when i stopped trying to hurt people in the game i stopped trying to punish my defenders i stopped getting hurt and i played eight seasons straight with no injury which is absurd in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:34:09 So there is a way to play the game. There's a way to to kind of move about it, take care of yourself. That is safe. But obviously, it's a violent sport. But the things that I've learned from playing football are things that, you know, have made me who I am. I think they give me an advantage in any situation. You know, you talk about, you know, stepping away from the game and being since seven years old, you've been trained to be a leader. You've been trained to problem solve. You've been trained to go through processes, to evaluate yourself, to evaluate your opponent, fail, do it all over again, like live on routine. Like all of those things are things that when you get out into the world, you see regular people, CEOs all the way down struggle with. Yet we've been equipped to do this and been kind of trained to do that.
Starting point is 00:34:46 So, you know, it's a tradeoff. You know, I think some of those things are good. Some of them bad. It's just up to if I had a son, it would really be up to him. All right. We got more with Malcolm Jenkins when we come back. His new book, What Winners Won't Tell You, is out right now. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Malcolm Jenkins. His new book, What Winners Won't Tell You, is out right now. Charlamagne? You know, Tom Brady wrote the foreword of your book.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Explain that relationship. Because I would never have wrote a foreword for you if it wasn't for Tom Brady. Yeah, I mean, you know, we were looking. Obviously, we titled it, you know, What Winners Won't Tell You, Lessons from a Legendary Defender. And we're kind of like, all right, well, who do we get to write the foreword? And Tom's name came up. And I'm like, guys, I've been trolling Tom about this Super Bowl for a few years now.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I don't know if Tom's going to write it. But when I think about, as a defender, who was my favorite opponent? It was Tom Brady. Loved playing Tom. He always brought the best out of me as a player. And he's the greatest of all time. So I just kind of shot my shot shot shot him a text uh and he obliged you know that was and it was kind of the cherry on top of the book definitely you know a stamp i
Starting point is 00:35:49 appreciated him for that did y'all have a relationship before that or really just a mutual you know relationship respect is like an opponent being peers in the league uh but no we're not like friends we don't hang out uh so this is really just based off of like i see you you see me type of thing now you said he's the greatest of all time i do yeah so you that you you stand by he's the greatest quarterback of all time yeah okay why because he does the ordinary better than everybody oh like i look at aaron rogers and i'm looking at his skill set like okay aaron rogers is probably the tougher one to play because he he has a skill set that really nobody else has like on the field it's hard but tom he's not faster than everybody's people have better arm talent.
Starting point is 00:36:25 You know, there have been other cerebral quarterbacks, but it's like, well, why is he having the success he has? And it's because of his process. He does all the ordinary things better than everybody else. And I think that, to me, is like the cheat code of life. Like, you can, there's always going to be people with God-given talent, but you master the things that don't take talent and watch how far it goes.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I feel like, man, what you just said makes so much sense. When you look at the people who have God-given talent, they usually do the basics better than everybody. They usually do something as simple as practice harder than everybody. I mean, think about, you look at Steph Curry, Jordan, all these people like Kobe. They talk about practicing. They don't talk about like oh yeah i gotta you know i can jump high so that's i just jumped over no they doing the very simple things over and over and over again and we only see it in the game like oh this is crazy you
Starting point is 00:37:15 don't realize he just been doing this same drill since the age of seven right and so now it's like clockwork body you know it's a muscle memory and i think that's that's something i've always been fascinated in and try to do myself is like instead of trying to be the best at some guy given talent or do these amazing things. Like how do you just do the ordinary better than everybody else? Absolutely. Now, you were just inducted into the Ohio State Hall of Fame. So congratulations. Now, just if you could go back and change it, because, you know, we talk about all the things you stand for now. Would you prefer or would you rather went to hbcu both my parents went to um to north carolina a and t i think going back no it was a different time right i think right now the way that there's attention on it there's people willing to put resources behind the programs and all this happened
Starting point is 00:38:00 of course i would now you know i think back then it would you would have just kind of been selling yourself short. It's like you need the entire environment. You need the eyes. You need the coaches to come see. It's not just one player coming. You need the coach. Like what Deion was doing, you know, for HBCUs was a movement.
Starting point is 00:38:17 And that's something is what we wanted to see. That's what would have made it, you know, appetizing for me as an athlete. But I do look at these athletes now who were doing it like I wish I had I wish the environment was like that when I was coming out
Starting point is 00:38:29 we have those conversations man but I keep thinking I want people to remember Deion's an anomaly man he is like Deion was one of the biggest stars
Starting point is 00:38:36 in the world because it's not like Eddie George is coaching right right you know what I mean like we can be supporting Eddie George it's a few yeah
Starting point is 00:38:43 it's because it's Deion yeah like that's what it's a few yeah it's because it's dion yeah like that's what it's not how is it hugh jackson's coaching too right i believe so yeah yeah yeah i mean like i said he's not the only one but it is the dion effect for sure it's the it's not just the on-field stuff and coaching it's the attention you're bringing the message that you're bringing the the pride and kind of the the showmanship that you bring to it too you gotta make it cool yeah how did your trip to ghana um influence your advocacy yeah oh i just changed your life period they changed everything you know you start to i think all of us have a bit of an identity crisis at some point you know if you're african-american you want to know where you came
Starting point is 00:39:20 from and at the lowest point in my life it's like one of the most critical moments in my in the book i needed to get away and i was like i always wanted to go to africa so i went to ghana and it was just to be around something you know a place that's all black for a week and a half i didn't realize how much i needed that until i came back i was like i hadn't i hadn't even thought about being black for a week and a half. And I was like, that must be what white privilege feels like, man. And like, oh, you know, it's like you didn't realize you needed those spaces to get away. And so just going to the slave castles, the door no return. You just feel this this connection with your ancestry that I hadn't had before. And so and even just nature and all of those things.
Starting point is 00:40:05 So for me, it was life-changing. It changed my perspective of what's important. What's my role here? I don't strive to have success in this kind of American society. It's like I'm here for a purpose. I'm going to live here. This is what I call home. But I don't have to buy into the ideology.
Starting point is 00:40:21 You have something before slavery now to tap into a history to explore. And I think that was mentally liberating for me. Did you take your daughters? No, they haven't been yet. We've been to the continent. We were in, like, northern Africa, Morocco, Marrakesh. But they haven't been to Ghana yet. Yeah, I took all four of mine.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And my seven-year-old, she's eight now. She literally was like, where are the white people at? Like, is that noticeable it's that knows where the only i was like i tell you i talked about in the book the only white face i saw was jesus and they have him white jesus is everywhere it's crazy but i did bring uh i brought my two brothers uh brought some of my frat brothers i've been there like four times last time um and we closed out the book with it is uh the time i bring my parents they always wanted to get to the continent. And so I bring them with me, and they had a blast. You got to pick up the new book.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Oh, yeah. What winners won't tell you. We appreciate you joining us. We appreciate you. Thank you for joining us this morning. Appreciate y'all having me, for sure. Pick up the book right now. Malcolm Jenkins.
Starting point is 00:41:19 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Make sure you tell them to watch out for Florida man. The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes, you are
Starting point is 00:41:36 a donkey. A Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason. It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested after deputies say he rigged the door to his home in an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife. Police arrested an Orlando man for tucking a flamingo. The Breakfast Club, bitch. Donkey of the day. Put Shalom Hayne to guard. I don't know why y'all keep letting him get
Starting point is 00:41:55 y'all like this. Well, do all of your own people, okay? Donkey of the day goes to Renee Don Skoglon. I know I pronounced her last name wrong, okay? but Renee is from Florida, ladies and gentlemen. And what does your uncle Charlotte always say about the great state of Florida? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. And today is no exception. OK, Renee is 30 years old and she will spend two years under community control, which is a form of house arrest, eight years on probation and will have to pay a fine of more than 17 grand. And personally, I don't think that is enough.
Starting point is 00:42:27 In fact, I think she should get actual prison time. Why, Uncle Sharla? Why are you wishing prison time on this woman? Well, let's go to Fox 13 Tampa for the report, please. South Dakota resident Renee Scoglin is far from home and in legal hot water that even surprised the judge. This is really unbelievable. Scoglin's trail of lies started when she decided to come to Tampa Bay and cheat on her husband.
Starting point is 00:42:52 That she felt guilty about this due to her marital status and she wanted to get checked for sexual transmitted diseases. But she wanted to get tested for free, so she decided to call 911. Skoglund made up a story about having car trouble and pulling over on the side of the road. An unknown male approached her.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Because her face was covered, she couldn't describe her attacker. When police checked her cell phone and found this Walmart surveillance video of Koglan buying the rope herself. She confessed to making the whole thing up. She was charged with making a false police report and decided. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward.
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Starting point is 00:44:24 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. To take a plea deal. She's not even from Florida. She's from South Dakota. Came to Florida and became a Florida fool because it's in the water. All right. This woman made up a false rape report in Florida to get a free STD test.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Let's just sit here for a second and take that in. You like my Palo Santo. Just think about that renee made up a false rape report in florida to get a free std test believe all women huh define all okay that's what we should have asked when that foolish ass slogan became part of our lexicon what do you mean by all because women like renee can't possibly be under the umbrella of all correct i have so many questions. Why didn't she just go to the clinic? Okay, I did some research, and by research, I mean Google,
Starting point is 00:45:11 and all I did was type in free STD testing in Florida. It's a whole website called saferstdtesting.com. It tells you all the clinics that are near you. It says right here, if you're looking for cheap STD testing clinics in the state of Florida to get an HIV, herpes, chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, or hepatitis screening for yourself or your partner. You can get tested today by selecting an option below to find an affordable STD test clinic near you. Same day STD testing locations also available with results in one to two days. Why didn't you just go to a free clinic? Now, Renee at the time was married and she lied about this sexual assault in an attempt to get a free STD test after she had a one night stand in Tampa.
Starting point is 00:45:49 So she cheated on her husband, felt guilty about it. So she decided to go get checked out for STD. And instead of just going to a doctor or clinic, she decided to lie about being raped so she could get a free STD test. Renee, what was your plan B? b okay if that was plan a what was plan b this couldn't have been the only plan not to mention you lied about a rape claim so you could get a free std test so clearly you hard on money but you had money to buy rope we looked it up uh the hollow braid rope that she bought is 22 okay how much is an std test in florida according to google the cost of an std test in Florida? According to Google, the cost
Starting point is 00:46:25 of an STD test will vary by location and test type. Some clinics, usually community or non-profit clinics, offer free or low cost testing. Labs, clinics, and at-home testing companies may accept insurance to cover or lower your cost of testing. And lab testing fees range from $8 to $150.
Starting point is 00:46:41 You had money for an STD test, okay? I saw other sources say that an STD test in Florida is $55. The test covers syphilis and HIV, chlamydia, gonorrhea, herpes test, $45. All I'm saying is if you had money for rope, you could have gotten some money for an STD test. Hell, you had money to travel from South Dakota
Starting point is 00:46:57 to Tampa to creep in the first place, okay? Renee, what about condoms? Which you too can get free from the clinic, alright? Two words for you, Renee. Planned Parenthood. They can help what about condoms? Which you too can get free from the clinic. All right. Two words for you, Renee. Planned Parenthood. They can help you get condoms and other birth control methods for free. Is that where inflation is taking us now?
Starting point is 00:47:13 Where people can't even afford to cheat? What happened to the good old days when, you know, you got an STD and blamed it on your significant other? We used to be a country. We are getting away from traditional values not to mention you nasty renee not only are you a despicable human who would lie about being raped you slept with your little side piece unprotected bareback shimmy shimmy y'all shimmy yeah shimmy yay you fought bare knuckle in the club and thought you lost that's why you went to go get an sD test. Okay?
Starting point is 00:47:45 Lock this woman up. All right? Put her under the jail. There's too many women out here who are real victims, who actually are dealing with the real trauma of being sexually assaulted, and you out here lying simply because you cheated on your husband and did the raw dog roulette with another man? Huh? Please give Renee Dawn Stoglone the biggest hee-haw.
Starting point is 00:48:10 What a world we live in man wild you wanna play a game? I do alright let's play a game of Guess What Rations Renee Don Starglon
Starting point is 00:48:22 from South Dakota traveled all the way to Tampa, Florida so she could do the raw dog roulette with a side piece. Thought she caught an STD, so she lied about being raped so she could get a free STD test. Mona, guess what race she is. She is a Caucasian from the Caucasus Mountains. One of Yacoub's finest creations, Mona says.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Jesus. Okay, DJ En off. One of Yacoub's finest creations, Mona says. Jesus. Okay, DJ Envy. White. Shake it off, shake it off. Well, don't call me white girl. And DJ Envy. Yes, sir. You are both correct.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Renee is Caucasian. She got made by YacKub on her ass cheeks. Jesus. Right? What did I win? Nothing. Nothing? Oh.
Starting point is 00:49:12 You didn't win nothing. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Charlamagne, the guy we are, the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. The legendary.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Taraji P. Henson. Welcome. How are you? Yeah, how are you feeling? I feel great. I feel great, you know, whenever I come to New York, and especially when I'm coming for Boris Lawrence Henson Foundation, you know we coming to spread joy, spread a message that it's okay not to be okay.
Starting point is 00:49:41 That's right. You started that conversation. For people who don't know what the boris lawrence henson foundation is okay yes um boris lawrence henson foundation we launched in 2018 and it's really to eradicate the stigma around mental illness in the black community and to bring more awareness to mental wellness in the black because you know we don't talk about it we suffer in silence we isolate And we try to be strong. And we're dying.
Starting point is 00:50:06 So out of my own necessity for my own help, mental wellness, and my son, I realized there was no real help out there for us. So I had to do something about it. So my best friend since the seventh grade, Tracy J. Tracy. friends since the seventh grade tracy j tracy we launched the boris lawrence henson foundation to hopefully um help a under underserved community how's your son doing he's doing great he's doing great he's doing great yeah he's doing great he's maneuvering through you know trying to become being a young black man in america you know when those rose colored glasses come off i'm sure you remember those days but he's maneuvered through it pretty well. Did he have a moment? Oh, he had a
Starting point is 00:50:46 huge moment. But I was, he picked the right mother because, you know. And it's interesting because I had an older gentleman tell me years ago when I was on the television show called The Division. It was my first series regular and I came in upset about something with Marcel. He was little
Starting point is 00:51:02 at the time. And this guy said, don't you ever give up on him. Don't ever give up. I don't even know if Mark is still alive to this day, but I just remember him. I never forget him saying that. And every time I would have these issues with my son, I would be like wanting to choke him.
Starting point is 00:51:16 I would hear his voice, don't ever give up. And you can't give up on your kids. You just got to pray. Tracy sent me something. Oh, was it you or Pam? Somebody sent me something about, I think it was a pastor who was saying, don't give up on your baby. I don't care if they strung out on drugs.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Whatever their problem is, you wrap them up in prayer. Don't ever give up on your children. So what if you have to, damn, can you set, you made me think, can you set boundaries with your kids that you need? You have to set boundaries. You must set boundaries. Are you kidding me? What type of boundaries? Boundaries.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Like, what are you willing to accept and not accept? You have to. Because these kids nowadays come so privileged. They're not like us. Now, I was talking to somebody the other day. I was like, I don't even think I can't remember the last time I saw a group of children playing outside. That's real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I make mine go outside. You have to. Yeah. Because they have these devices now um which is not good for the mental so um these kids aren't they don't even know what fresh air is anymore i don't think you know it's just a weird time to be a young that's true you don't even tell kids i mean you smell like outside because they don't go out they don't go outside i can't remember the last time i seen girls playing double dutch or or just riding bikes or anything i guess
Starting point is 00:52:25 the scariest thing is you don't want them to like make any mistakes that's going to really cost them while they're coming around absolutely that's that was your mother's fear that's every parent's fear that was your father's that's all of our fear forever like my mother to this day she tracks me i'm 53 and she tracks me she's like i just feel so much better knowing where you are and when i see you're not moving i can sleep at night it never ends it never ends what what you know we don't talk about enough the resources that are available for the friends and family that have to deal with folks who have mental health issues exactly you know because it takes a toll on them especially parents because you feel like I can't fix my child.
Starting point is 00:53:07 It's something that I did wrong. It's really hard because that's your job to protect your kids and save them from, you know, mishaps. And when you can't, you feel inadequate or you feel like you're not doing your job. It's hard. Parenting is not easy. And then being a single parent, I promise you, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I wouldn't. I just wouldn't. First of all,
Starting point is 00:53:32 children need both parents. Boys and girls, I don't care. You need both of your parents. If you're not living in the same household, you still need both. I mean, you know, regardless of whether your relationship works out, that has nothing to do with
Starting point is 00:53:46 the kid, you still have to show up, both parents for that child. Unfortunately, my son's father was murdered, so I didn't have an option. But, yeah, it's hard. It's tough. Especially me being a boy mom, I need the man. I can't teach him how to be a man.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I don't know how to be a man. You know, and that was the that was the hardest struggle for us. Because when he was becoming a man, he's looking at me like you can't tell me anything. What can you tell me your girl? It's just the dynamic is it gets a little difficult in the young adult years. Like Charlamagne was just saying, you know, so what do you do to make sure your mental is good? Remember when I went to Bali? You there for a long time i went for a whole month yeah i had to i had to i was coming apart at the seams and i didn't realize it because i was working and and god is god is amazing because god will put you in a situation where you have to sit down
Starting point is 00:54:38 and i have been world and it's doing this for over 20 years. I have been working nonstop my entire career. Right. And it was just this past year where I didn't have a lot. You know, I did Color Purple and I was just kind of like sitting around and not sitting around. I had other stuff to do. But as far as like a call sheet and showing up and knowing lines and that kind of work, acting gigs. And it was for a reason because I needed to I needed to take care of me I was not in a good place mentally I just really wasn't and um
Starting point is 00:55:13 and thank god I had that time to take care because lord knows where I would be if I didn't have the time to to really listen to myself and take time for myself. And I think we live in such a grind society. It's all about grinding. You can sleep when you're in that box. Well, if you don't sleep now, you might get to that box a little sooner than you planned. When you finally slowed down, were you surprised that you weren't happy?
Starting point is 00:55:40 I was at first, but then I wasn't. Because once you sit down and you go, well, how did you expect to be happy if you weren't paying attention? Like I wasn't tracking my feelings. I was just working. And when you finally make it, you have this dream. I don't care what it is. It could be to be a chef or whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:57 But you have this dream and it finally comes true. It's like I can't stop now because what if the phone stops ringing? You know what I mean? So you're not really paying attention to you're not doing a mental check. And then, like I said, God did it for me. I didn't have the jobs piled up and I literally had to stop and check myself. I wasn't doing well. And I knew because I was looking at the people around me and they were like walking on eggshells.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And I'm a cool person. Like I'm the most fun person. But they were concerned because i was a short fuse any little thing i was like i'm so annoyed i was annoyed about every little thing and it was like like i could even feel myself wanting to get into like arguments on the streets and you know nowadays that's not safe it could be the end of your life you know and so it was things like little things were triggering me little things that once upon a time would just you know be water under the bridge or water off my back well whatever but i was literally everything was just just i felt like i could just run through a wall
Starting point is 00:57:00 but you had to self-awareness to know it was you though a lot of people don't you know a lot of people would be like that's everybody else no no no was you though. A lot of people don't. A lot of people would be like that's everybody else. No, no, no, no. I'm the type like if I don't feel
Starting point is 00:57:09 100% I stay home. I don't put my on other people. Like if I'm not in the best mood. I want to be the type of person when I come into
Starting point is 00:57:17 a room and I leave everybody's much better after my presence. Right. And if I can't give that then I need to stay home.
Starting point is 00:57:25 We got more with Taraji P. Henson. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:57:34 We're still kicking it with Taraji P. Henson. Charlamagne, what is Joy Joints? Joy Joints. Okay, this is what I love because this is a time for us to really celebrate us and to find that joy and remind ourselves that that joy is our birthright it's something that we were born with and it's something that is ours and so across the nation we want people to if you have
Starting point is 00:58:00 if you're at work it can be an office group. It could be friends. Remember how I said we don't see people playing outside anymore? We're trying to recreate that. Get the kids. Have kickball. Go outside and play kickball or spades games, double dutch. Whatever it is that brings you joy, get a group of people and do it. And we're all connecting through the Boris Lawrence Henson foundation to raise awareness of just finding your joy tapping back into your joy so it's like a party it's a huge party and a nationwide party
Starting point is 00:58:32 got you got you got you and you're with kate spade on this yes kate spade has been our partner since 20 and 2022 and they have really just been incredible partners. Case paid New York just been everything. They are the reason why we're able to erect these wellness pods at HBCU campuses. They've been our partners in that and just our partners and getting the message of mental wellness. And talk about that, what you're doing on those HBCU campuses and the first campus you started with. Yeah, we started with Alabama State University. We erected the first pod back in April. And it's been a huge success. We're interested in universities that have, who are very serious or invested in their student body mental wellness.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Because it's one thing for us to bring the pod, but now we need your help to keep it going and make sure that the kids are getting, you know, the help and the resources that they need. And our next stop is Hampton. And we're doing this one in November. And this is our second university. Are you allowed to do it at Hampton? Being a Howard or whatnot? I knew you was going to bring some. He's trying to get me back because he missed me on his wall over here
Starting point is 00:59:45 wow see how people take it too far negroes always gotta take it a little too far i know y'all lost last weekend you know it was a hampton highway game but that's okay but y'all it's not like y'all number one on in anything damn it's okay joy joy we have we're here to spread joy anyway he threw me off my joy i'm back so what are the pods exactly oh they're like these containers you know those containers that everybody's making into homes now yep yep so we found a company si container bills and they are amazing we had a student from um alabama state university who's a visual artist and she made made the whole mural, which is so beautiful. But in the respite pod, you can have meditation. You can do yoga.
Starting point is 01:00:52 We have two actual rest pods. Because, you know, when you're in college, you're always around people. You know, you have roommates. It's the study hall. It's the students. And sometimes you just need to get away from all of that. And so we have these rooms where you can go respite, you can rest, you can meet with a therapist virtually or in person. Or you can just go in there and just relax and chill.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Sometimes you just need to decompress. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So it's a safe space for students to go when they feel stressed or when it's too much. How many HBCcus are you going to four that's dope yes that's dope yeah students need that because i mean because it gets stressful and especially uh for students that's never been alone going to those schools and not knowing people gives you anxiety having to pass and knowing that if you get a lower grade than a certain you lose your scholarship and then meet a new friend so i think that's that's amazing yeah and it's also for students to feel like they belong correct the dropout rate is
Starting point is 01:01:51 insane um and it's because i think it's a lot of it is it's you know it's a lot on these students and now throw social media in the mix oh my god on top of all the other things you know so we're just trying to help we're just trying to save us and save our future by saving these kids. I feel like you should come out with a line of pre-rolls called Joy Joints. Joy Joints? Yes. Okay. Hey.
Starting point is 01:02:14 You don't think so? Joy Joints. A line of pre-rolls. Why not? I got it. A lot of people are using plant-based medicine for their anxiety and depression and stuff like that. Yeah, they are. That'd be dope.
Starting point is 01:02:25 You also have the One Million Hours Joy Challenge. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, you started that last spring. Yes. How does somebody join that? BorisLHensonFoundation.org. And you can find out how you can sign up for the Joy Joints or if you just want to donate. You know, Tyler Perry spoke about something a couple of days ago.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Oh, Lord. I had to go to the bathroom. I'm like, is this real? You got some milk? you know uh tyler perry uh spoke about something a couple of days ago can you talk about your broadway show or that's oh i can talk about that okay okay all right i am so proud to be a producer of a broadway show what i love about this show is it because it showcases these women and i love hey what's up's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people.
Starting point is 01:03:22 We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're black, Asian, white, Latinx, indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Of bringing life to Hidden Figures. You know, I grew up in D.C. I used to get my hair braided, but it was always over somebody's house, a friend's house. I never really knew about the hair braiding salons. I hung out millions of times in Harlem, and I would walk past the salons. I just walked past them, you know. But this play brings such a light to these women. And another thing, when you think about ICE and deportation, you never think about us.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Because the only images they always show are the Latin community, right? But this play showcases that. These women are undocumented. They're in this country and they're trying to make a living. This is how they're doing it, braiding hair. And in the play, you see that they have an issue with ICE and their documentation. I never think about that. Do you think about that?
Starting point is 01:04:46 No. One time when they, I think it was, was it the Haitian migrants who they say were coming over? That was a couple of years ago, but it was like a mention. It was just a mention. But whenever ICE shows up, you never see. It's always, they're coming down on the Latin community. So I never even thought about that. I never even thought about undocumented black people
Starting point is 01:05:05 in the U.S. you know what I mean and these women literally just trying to make a living and so that was very interesting to me not only that yes bringing life to their their story and their lives these incredible women but I love hair I almost became a cosmetologist I mean I almost went to school for cosmetology but but I missed it by one year. And I have a hair care line, so it really made, it was a no-brainer for me to produce this show. And congratulations on the hair care line. Thank you. Won a bunch of awards.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Yes. Congrats. Are you using it at your household? I did try some. My kids as well. You know what? My daughter had a problem with. Boy, the Hampton people lie for a second.
Starting point is 01:05:42 No, no. Let her finish. No, no. I'm going to tell you why. Because I actually had to go and get everybody's hair product because my daughter had... What is it called? I don't know what it was. But she had something in her hair. And we went and got everybody's hair.
Starting point is 01:05:55 I mean, I done got the brat. I didn't even know the brat had a hair product. Oh, yeah. I done picked up the brat hair products. Portia has hair products I picked up. Because my wife sent me to the store and I just looked for anybody black and I just got on the products. But you love TPH. But anyway, that's what you forgot to say.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Alright, well hold up, hold that thought. We got more with Taraji P. Henson. When we come back it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake up, good morning. We are The Breakfast Club. DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We're still kicking it with Taraji P. Henson. Charlamagne? What makes TPH stand out from everybody else? Because TPA specializes
Starting point is 01:06:26 in scalp care, honey. You gotta clean your scalp first. And you have a head that is naked. You can... Do you have anything for him? No protection. Do you have anything for him? He has a scalp, doesn't he? You still gotta clean your scalp?
Starting point is 01:06:41 You still have to clean your scalp. And moisturize it so it don't get dry. You got something for him boy that's that this is what i came for but that but that but that's another way to bring joy oh absolutely i believe self care hair care is self-care especially for women from ethnic backgrounds because we have curly thick big hair and we look at doing our hair as a chore and so with the tph line it's more of um it's like a spa experience so you pamper yourself from scalp to toe that's because
Starting point is 01:07:20 you don't have a body line too so um So the whole line was created to change the narrative of, you know, taking care of yourself as a chore and look at it more as self-care. Like, take yourself to the spa. And the reason I came up with that is because my hair care line launched during the pandemic. People were afraid to go to salons and be around other people. So it was more like bring the salon home to you. At an affordable price. Can men use it?
Starting point is 01:07:50 Absolutely, men can use it. You have a scalp, right? Yes, but I'm talking about guys that use the Just For Men and the Beijing. Will it wash it out? It'll wash it all off. Damn. Yeah, I hear soap and rain. Here comes the staff.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Yeah, you try to be funny. No, that's him. yeah i think i hear soap and rain here comes the staff here comes the staff yeah you try to be fun we had a whole conversation about this because i think a lot of guys are doing this now they're getting the hair transplants in the beijing and the just for me and i'm like i'm like why like who are y'all doing this for and so a lot of women call them if they don't even like that they rather the guys just just be bold be bald and grow the salt and pepper just like y'all rather us just wear our hair and not wear wigs and stuff oh I don't care you know I know but I hear that
Starting point is 01:08:28 you know a lot of men just be natural they don't believe that I think they just be I think you should do whatever it is that makes you happy that makes you happy
Starting point is 01:08:35 unless you a man if you a man you should let the salt and pepper grow out how come men can't do cause it looks ridiculous that's terrible they haven't learned
Starting point is 01:08:42 how to blend it in like it don't look natural if it looks good mind if it looks if it looks good right yes because some of those wigs look really good i'm not i'm trying to say this with a straight face i'm really not trying to be funny because i believe people should do what makes them feel good and if if women can't wear lace runs men can too i haven't seen a good way yet baby hair they've been going crazy with the baby hair the. The baby hairs are a little out of control. They're bangs, they're not baby hairs. Baby hairs going down to your mouth,
Starting point is 01:09:10 your nose, your cheeks. It's getting crazy now. You know what it is when the baby hair meet the eyebrow. But I don't judge. Some people like it. And if that makes you happy, wear that baby bang, baby. That is a bang on your forehead. But if that makes you happy, wear that baby bang, baby. Because that is a bang.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I just want it to look natural. That is a bang on your forehead. But if that makes you feel good, wear that bang, baby. And get you some TPH products to slick it down. That's right. That's right. That's right. Now, World Mental Health Day is coming up.
Starting point is 01:09:37 That's right. What are some things people can do in their communities to create their own joy joints and joy challenges and all that good stuff? Get the best group. If you like Spades, you like Uno, whatever it is that brings you joy.
Starting point is 01:09:49 It could be sitting outside, sitting on a stoop, talking. Whatever it is, whatever brings you joy. I can't tell you what brings you joy. I know what brings me joy.
Starting point is 01:09:58 I want to play. I want to do double dutch. I want to jump double dutch. You still doing that? And play jacks. I haven't in a while but i would for this to bring myself joy i'm willing to do anything people don't bring you back to your inner child absolutely never let your inner child die people don't double does nor do they know how
Starting point is 01:10:16 to double dutch i know and that which is crazy because when we do the um events i bring this double dutch team a husband wife and they teach people how to double dutch men and women and they teach you the easy way how to how to, you know, because I'm double handed. So I don't know how to do it. But but it teach you because it's fun and it's an exercise. And a lot of people, they don't know how to do it. No, they don't. Because people aren't playing outside anymore. That is correct. I like what you said about that, because, you know, a lot of people are afraid to do that because their inner child still is so broken. Yeah. So what do you do when your inner child still needs to be loved you have to nurture it you have to nurture
Starting point is 01:10:49 that little child pay attention to it that child cries out for attention all the time i play still to this day that's what my salon is about i have a salon in my house and i get my friends tease me all the time because i have a square like a register it's just I used to play register when I was a kid and as I grew up I was like I'm gonna always purchase the things that I couldn't afford when I was a kid I was good I was told no so much because we couldn't afford it and when I can afford I'm gonna get it and so my salon is more like my playroom and that's where I go when things become too much. I go in there and I tell people, don't call me.
Starting point is 01:11:28 I have clients. You got clients. And what do you do? Do you go through a whole, like? Yep. I have an appointment book and I make up appointments. Wow. I go there.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I let my inner child play. Love it. And I have these dolls these heads and I do their hair like one may have a wet set appointment one may have a dye
Starting point is 01:11:52 I may have to cut you do by yourself? yeah wow I went to the University of YouTube and I learned a lot I graduated magna cum laude
Starting point is 01:12:01 so I know a lot of things I'm going to bring my girls over to your house if you're doing hair like that you should I do nails too you of things. I'm going to bring my girls over to your house. If you're doing that, I do nails too. I do at all. Yes. Bring them over.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I was like that. Why did I have a girl? You know what I mean? Girls are hard, man. My son be like, miss me with all of that. I'm not interested.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Girls are hard. I got four of them. And my oldest is at that age where she don't want nothing to do with daddy. She's 15. Oh my God. And that's heartbreaking. Put your want Nothing to do with daddy She's 15 Oh my god And that's heartbreaking Put your seatbelt on My wife says
Starting point is 01:12:28 It'll go away But how long though Jesus You never know Yeah Then she's gonna get a boyfriend And she's really not gonna Care about you
Starting point is 01:12:35 It could be five years It could be ten It's usually a ten year Ten Pretty much If I can wait till she's 25 Then she's gonna get married You're not
Starting point is 01:12:43 Yes Cause it's true Then she's gonna have a baby? You're not. Yes. Because it's true. Then she's going to have a baby. You're done. Hang it up for the 20s. That's right. You're done. Just don't.
Starting point is 01:12:50 What? Just wait for her to come back like 28, 29. Stop crying now. Yeah. I don't think people realize how heartbreaking. That's something that fathers don't talk about enough. That's heartbreaking when your little girl all of a sudden don't want nothing to do with you. And act like they don't even like you.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Yep. Would you say that the Boris Lawrence Henson Foundation is your life's work? Yeah, definitely my life. A life purpose, a purpose, a clear purpose. Like, I thought it was acting. I'm going to touch the people through my work. And, of course, I did. But I just felt like that was to bring me here
Starting point is 01:13:22 because this feels really fulfilling. Because you can do a performance. Will you touch somebody? Will you change my? felt like that was to bring me here because this feels really fulfilling like i really because you could do a performance at will you touch somebody will you change my i don't know i hope so but this is the work that is really changing and saving lives and um and i feel good about what i'm doing i feel important you are important for a number of reasons i know but this really makes me feel like i have a life purpose beyond vanity and being pretty in front of a camera. Or what does she have on? Are you almost tired of Hollywood?
Starting point is 01:13:52 Yeah. Almost is... Anyway. But I still got some jobs to complete. Word, word, word. I have some things that I'm working on, but I know what... Yeah, it's getting to the point where I'm ready to let these kids have it. I'm looking for my exit strategy.
Starting point is 01:14:09 I don't want to be doing this one. Not on a grind. You know, I want to dip back in when I'm ready, when it's a project that I feel so inclined that I will come out of my retirement, you know. But I'm literally ready to go stick my toes in some sand somewhere and let these kids have it. How can people donate and contribute to the Boris Lawrence Henson Foundation?
Starting point is 01:14:29 Always. You can always go to www.borislhensonfoundation.org. That's right. We appreciate you joining us. Always. Thank you so much. You are loved, valued,
Starting point is 01:14:39 and appreciated. Absolutely. I will know that when I'm up on this wall. But we appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, from Howard University. Hey, do you know? Period.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Get that water bucket out of here. Taraji P. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 01:15:05 We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining us this morning. Yes, indeed. We have Queen of Four, welcome back. So glad to be back. And Stephanie McGraw, welcome. Thank you so much for having us. You've always supported the wellness for our communities.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Thank you. And I'm welcome to see you all together. We are partnering in WARM, a work of WARM, as we're coming forth to bring awareness to domestic violence month. And within that, in October, it's happening right now. Thursday the 5th, we're coming to a spectacular work. It's the Day of Harlem Healing. What is that? Tell us what that is.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Well, we're coming together and we're going to share ways in which to protect ourselves, to heal ourselves. And it's a family affair. Although the women, you know, you have all the women that have been challenged. They've been murdered, basically, in their own homes. So there's violence in our homes and we have to heal as people, as family. So it's not we're pointing the finger at our men, but we're looking at us as a community. What can we all do collectively to protect one another because when you take a woman's life you're taking your own life
Starting point is 01:16:10 and then the children are highly in danger so we're coming together as me a holistic healer for the last 50 years and you're doing your work in community building and not-for-profit in warm but it's been over 12 years it's been actually 13 years yes this is 13 i gave birth to warm in 2010 coming out of this cycle of domestic violence yeah and when i came back to harlem i didn't see any women that looked like me i didn't see any representation of women of color and i certainly didn't see any lived experienced women where I come from. It is you are to be quiet and it is a shame. And we're saying that domestic violence is not a shame. It's a crime.
Starting point is 01:16:51 And we want to expose it for what it is, because women are dying. This book right here, every woman in this book has been murdered. The candlelight vigils, the funerals for mother and children. So it's a critical issue here. And I'm so honored to for you to have us here. But one of the things that we want to talk about is it's important to feel. You've got to feel first. Then you've got to deal.
Starting point is 01:17:14 And then you've got to come to that table of healing our body, mind, and spirit. So that's what we're going to do in Harlem this year, in Harlem on October 5th, is bring our community together because we've been devastated. Let me ask you a question. When you deal with people that's been affected by domestic violence, right, especially in our culture, black men, why don't you think people shun them enough or shove those cases enough? A lot of times you see a lot of domestic violence cases get swept under the rug. A lot of times you see domestic violent cases, people get plead out to lesser charges. Why do you think that happens so much in our community?
Starting point is 01:17:48 And why don't you think it's spoken about more in our community? Well, the first thing is it is an uncomfortable conversation. And a lot of times because we're dealing with women and children who are still considered to be second class citizens in the world. So they don't take it serious enough. It's like, OK, well, it just happened. The brother got a little upset. It's not that bad. But we're saying that it is bad.
Starting point is 01:18:16 It is a human rights issue now because women and children are being murdered. This book right here, all these women didn't make it out. And one of the things that, you know, in our community, there's just so much. There's a lack. There's no resources there. So that's why I came back to Harlem, because there wasn't anything in Harlem for women like me that looked like me. So we opened up the floodgatesgate and god has sent hundreds and thousands of his children in who are some of the people y'all gonna have at the event oh we're gonna have well both of us are gonna be there yes yes and then we're gonna have um china china is the ceo
Starting point is 01:18:56 of dollhouse cosmetics and we invited her because she's uh she overcame domestic violence yes she did and as a result she became an entrepreneur to let you know that there's a future, even though you've been beat down and hurt and wounded in your own home, that you can rise up, you can overcome. And she has a healthy relationship now. So that's an example. Then we have a moderator, B.B. Smith.
Starting point is 01:19:19 She's going to moderate everything. And then we have Dr. Jeffrey Gennard. So he's going to be there and he's going to talk about the psychology and the emotions of it i'm going to be talking about a way to bring medicine in our own homes food is medicine is my specialty and a lot of the anger and the stresses is what we're eating and what's eating at us and so we're reacting one of the things i had asked you i said well what time when does this happen the? And you said on the weekend. So that's after having some alcohol and some, you know, something to numb the hurt. Women and men are numbing a lot of the hurt. And so, but it doesn't numb out.
Starting point is 01:19:53 It actually expresses itself further out. So I have a whole campaign of detoxing. We can detox the woundedness, the hurt. Then we're bringing attention that we can de-stress we can release our anger in a positive way maybe walking maybe uh you know working together fasting and cleansing so i'm doing a seven day at the um the end of october end of october yes we're going to come together i'm going to launch at warm yes at your location on 26th street in harlem yes and we're going to launch our seven day detox not seven too much not 21 days can we do seven days and every night we'll be talking to the women
Starting point is 01:20:31 encouraging them strengthening them because i always see the women as the healers of the home the women can heal and if they raise their vibration strong enough and we all come together then our men will respond to us differently because we'll be able to help them. We'll be able to walk them off the edge, walk them over the bridge, help them to detach. Just something, a green juice every day will bring the stress levels all the way down. A healing bath would have you not fight against yourself, but go inside and say, what are my issues?
Starting point is 01:20:58 What did I carry over through my mother and father fight? And I'm bringing that into my house in this generation. And then it just keeps going from generation to generation because you talked about the vicious cycle within your own family you know that we've gone through that we have a passion for this because we went through it ourselves you know somebody might say well you know why should we have to help the men that are going through their own problems and beating us why should we have to be the person to stop them from doing that what would you say to to to that woman and people out there listening you know i would say that it is our duty to help our men um it is our obligation to help our men it is uh what we've been called to
Starting point is 01:21:38 do to help our men you know everything is birth from a woman. Everything comes from a woman. So we are talking about if we are getting ourself right and we are doing all the healing and eating right and fasting and praying. And if we don't. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, Asian, white, Latinx, indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some
Starting point is 01:22:46 of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Bring our men into this equation of healing, then who are we going to turn to? So it is our obligation to tell our brothers look and it is your obligation to tell your brothers your brother that's domestic violence for 30 something years i'm in living in this world and i didn't have the identification it wasn't talked about so we just thought that's what happened in the household right that's what my mother and my father do so what our job is to bring our brothers into this equation so yes it is my obligation you're not you're not saying that if a woman is in that situation and she's receiving abuse from
Starting point is 01:23:31 the man she should just stay there and try to help the man no no we're saying get out we can get you out let's get you out so you can get you some help and thank you brother for bringing that around get you some help what they say when you get on a plane put your oxygen on first okay if i'm not breathing then nobody's breathing so i got to breathe first then brother let me come back and help you i had to get out i wanted to you know i had a conversation with one of my abusers i'm not mentioning no name no names and i asked him why were you violating me like that? And he said he was beating his mother. I missed all the issues. And he just passed.
Starting point is 01:24:10 I just like, okay, God, you right now, that statement, I got to go back and be available for our brothers because they are hurting. It's deep. It ain't just happened. I get an abuse relationship. It just happened. That thing happened when I was five years old. was implanted it was in depth it was birthed in me because i seen it you know when you spill something on the sofa you see the little stain but you don't see that thing is steep down in there all right we have more with queen of four and stephanie mcgraw when we come back
Starting point is 01:24:39 their event day of harlem healing is happening thursday october 5th at the harlem hospital we'll discuss with them more so So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Queen of Four and Stephanie McGraw.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Charlamagne? If somebody wants to get involved, how can they? Thank you for asking that question. So WARM is a 5OC domestic violence organization. We're at 8 West 126th Street. That's between Lenox and 5 and fifth we are open nine to six we work on saturdays from uh nine to two but if you want to get involved you can reach out to us at we are really matter uh at gmail.com or you can find us on instagram that's warm nyc we need
Starting point is 01:25:22 everybody involved like i said at the top of this segment this is a human issue this is not just a domestic violence issue or man it's a human issue and it's affecting us from around the world so we just encourage everybody you can reach out to us at 917 736 1621
Starting point is 01:25:40 or 917 736 0680 a lot of women I'm sure feel like you said earlier like you know I mean or 917-736-0680. A lot of women, I'm sure, feel like you said earlier, like, you know, I'm in a, this is my family. I don't want to do this to my kids. I don't want to break up the family. So what would you tell a woman out there that's listening right now
Starting point is 01:25:54 that might be going through similar situations, might be being abused mentally, might be being abused physically? How would you tell them how to get out if they don't know how? Well, it's not just you do one thing it's a multitude of things first you have to say no more you have to be standing for yourself in your own quiet and soul and say i'm because my children will be damaged from this
Starting point is 01:26:14 when when you spoke of the one of the last cases you said the husband took his life first took his wife's life then he took his one-year year old and then he murdered his three year old. So it goes to the mother that he ended his life at the end of that. So it is something that we have to act now. There is someone right now who's listening to us and who's feeling I don't know how to get out. You go to your mother. You go to your friend. You come to warm.
Starting point is 01:26:42 You come to Queen of Four. We will for we'll because everyone's case is not the same right and sometimes you have help that you're not even realizing sometimes women are fighting with their own mothers so they can't even go to back to their mother's home for help so we as the people must begin to heal so every case is a bit different we're saying everyone come out on wins on thursday because it's going to be around the world everyone can see it it It's free. Those who can get into the building at Harlem
Starting point is 01:27:08 Hospital. The fact that Harlem Hospital opened up your doors for us to be able to do something like this is saying that we need the community to be the healers too. It's not just the hospital that's going to heal us. We as a people are going to have to heal us. And that's why it's not about fighting the men or fighting women. We need families.
Starting point is 01:27:23 And you cannot have family with just women. You cannot have family with just men. You have to have men who are healed up. You have to have women who are healed up and prevent. Don't wait until, because everyone's going through something. Sometimes yelling at someone will break someone's self-esteem. Someone's just pushing them. It seems so harmless.
Starting point is 01:27:38 There's nothing to it. Sometimes they'll yoke, they'll fight all of this. Probably everyone who's coming out, they'll say, it happened to me at least once in my life. But maybe we can stop that when we start talking about it. And remove the shame. And so if we remove the shame and say, this is what we're going through. Let's work it out. What I have is, it says, black women are in a state of emergency, but families are in a state of emergency.
Starting point is 01:28:00 In the spirit of Domestic Violence Month, I'm saying, get out the trap. Overcome now. Be the change. I'm a change maker. We all be change makers and do our portion. So on the October 27th, this is like part one. Part one is let's get all to Harlem. The drums will be playing.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Yes, they will. You know, Bob Ward's coming out. Yes, indeed. Who else? Erica Ford is coming. We are unifying. It's not like one organization or one group of healers. We're united.
Starting point is 01:28:29 Breakfast Club saying, I am supporting us. This is a big deal because we respect you. We love you. And we honor you. And you honor us as a people. So you're allowing us to be here now. It's going to help to stop some of the violence. Yes, it will.
Starting point is 01:28:41 We're talking about the event and the time and where people can come and how they can get involved. How they can contact you, all that stuff. Absolutely. Yes, thank you. So it's going to be at Harlem Hospital. The door's open at 530.
Starting point is 01:28:52 We're asking everyone to come. Make it a date night with your girlfriend, with your children, with your man, with your grandmother, with your aunt.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Come out as a community. It's going to be at Harlem Hospital. That's 506 Lenox Avenue. Again, the doors open at 530. It will be an auditorium on the second floor. If you need more information,
Starting point is 01:29:14 you can go to warmwearereallymatter at gmail.com or you can reach out to us on Instagram. That's warmnyc. And we will be there. We will be offering Summer Queen's amazing
Starting point is 01:29:28 tonics and detox. And because for myself, you know, I didn't know how to grieve. I did not because they told us, you know, you get a little shot of alcohol, get you a little joint. That's how you do it. So I didn't know how it was. Okay. I put on
Starting point is 01:29:43 10 pounds of betrayal because I didn't know how to get in touch with what betrayal felt like, how to process it out. So what I did, ate a Haagen-Dazs ice cream, chocolate cake every night because I didn't know how to. Until I got in touch with Queen in 2016, I crawled into her, broken down, and I got into the Queen of Sacred Woman training. I graduated as a Sacred Woman in 2016, and my whole life was shifted and changed. So I promote healthy eating because I know for myself, I can't get what God got me if I'm clogged up. I got to keep this vessel clean to read to receive the messages it's serious like that what we're dealing with now is spiritual
Starting point is 01:30:32 in nature a good old steak is not gonna fix me from getting getting in a out of a bad relationship but i know i know if i get on my knees and ask god to guide me out. You can't take something spiritual and fix it with something material. It's just not going to work. So working with Queen has been one of my greatest gifts. And I give that what she gave me to the women. It's all gravy. I love it. I love what I do.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Well, we appreciate you guys so much for joining us this morning. Thank you so much for joining us this morning thank you so much but also for those who want to um change their lives now and they see they're in trouble they can join us in a seven-day detox and make it a community of wellness so the women are coming and getting well but also our men are getting well our people are getting well so uh check out queenoffloor.com. You can register for the seven-day detox that's coming up and be a part of the change. And if you have an organization that the women are stressing out,
Starting point is 01:31:33 you know it's time to bring those women together so they can help the other women and help our families and our community to build up. So we're just so grateful that you have us today. We're going to pass the word. You're passing the word globally. Absolutely. Queen of Floor. High respect. Stephanie McGraw, thank you so much. today. We're going to pass the word. You're passing the word globally. Absolutely. Queen of food.
Starting point is 01:31:45 High respect. Stephanie McGraw, thank you so much. Thank you. And don't forget, the event is this Thursday, October 5th at Harlem Hospital, and it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Breakfast Club, bitches! We all finished or y'all done? Hey, y'all.
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