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Good morning, USA! Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Hump Day. You wanted to jump right into Hump Day, huh?
I did.
No peace to the planet enough for this morning.
I forgot.
I forgot all about it, man.
It's Wednesday morning.
It's early.
Yeah.
Good morning.
What's happening?
What's going on?
Well, we got our guest co-host back, Willie D.
That's right.
He's back joining us this morning.
Dropping a bomb for Willie D.
Came in here yesterday stirring up all that trouble.
Yeah.
Pissed all the ladies off.
Ladies want flowers, Willie D.
They want flowers. Ladies want flowers, Willie D. They want flowers.
Ladies want flowers, Willie D.
Man, I have to make amends for that.
Pissing the ladies off.
The ladies say they want flowers on their first date, Willie D. There you go.
How you feeling?
I'm feeling good.
You all right?
Yeah, I feel like a veteran now.
This is my second day on the job.
You feel like a veteran.
So getting up early is not a problem for you?
No, that's a problem.
He said that.
That's a problem.
As far as media, though, Willie, you problem. He said that. That's a problem.
As far as media, though, Willie, you've been in the media thing for a while now.
I mean, with the podcast and the YouTube channel.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Before that, I did a talk show on 97.9 The Box in Houston.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes.
I didn't know that.
I've been doing it for a while.
See?
Okay.
Willie ain't new to this. No, not at all.
Not even a little bit. Did y'all charge your crystals last night? It was while. See? Okay. Willie ain't new to this. No, not at all. Not even a little bit.
Did y'all charge your crystals last night?
It was a full moon.
No.
You ain't charging crystals in the full moon last night?
I don't participate in stuff like that.
That moon was so beautiful last night.
It just went, it was still up when we came in the building.
Yeah, I seen it this morning.
Yeah, man.
I seen it this morning.
Yeah.
I actually went, I went fishing last night with my son.
We didn't catch nothing, though, but we went fishing last night.
Where the hell y'all went fishing at?
There's a lake pretty close to where we live, and a neighbor, actually, one of my neighbors
actually live on a lake, so we went over there, and we were fishing, and we didn't catch nothing,
though.
We didn't catch nothing.
There might not even have been no fish in that lake.
I'm not a fisherman.
I'm from New York.
We don't do those type of things.
I just try.
He wanted to do it.
Did anybody catch that billion-dollar lottery ticket?
I didn't catch that either.
Nobody caught that?
No.
Okay.
But going back to the fishing, though, man, I got a story.
The first time me and my son went fishing, we were out there at this little lake for about maybe five hours.
And, man, we had the catch of the day. Very maybe five hours. And man,
we had to catch up the day.
Very first time fishing.
We caught a turtle.
A turtle?
Did y'all eat it? Y'all made a turtle soup?
No, we threw it back.
I started, you know, back in the day
I would have kept it as a pet.
But we let it go.
I had a pet turtle back in the day.
Same thing.
Did you eat it?
No, we caught it out in the wilderness
in Montesquieu and the Sarkin line.
What happened to it?
My dad made me put it back in where I got it from.
Yeah?
Yeah, I don't know.
How are you supposed to keep a turtle?
Like, especially a turtle you catch in the wild.
It's one thing when you buy one from the store
and you feed it turtle food, but...
They don't eat much.
Yeah, I have no idea what they're talking about.
We do dogs and cats in New York. Dogs and no idea what they're talking about.
We do dogs and cats in New York.
Dogs and cats and rats.
There's really no need to have a pet turtle, honestly, when you really think about it.
What's the point of having a pet turtle?
Let that turtle go, man.
Free that turtle.
Free that turtle. I think any type of pet that you have should earn their keep.
That's why I don't do little dogs.
Little dogs serve no purpose to me.
Willie D sounds like my pops.
My pops are the same way.
My pops like, everybody who lives in this house needs a job.
If it's a little dog, that little dog ain't doing nothing.
Get a big-ass dog that's going to be protecting.
My dads are the same-ish.
I think little dogs are for comfort.
People keep that like emotional support dogs.
Yeah, you know, my daughter just got her one.
Emotional support dog.
Yeah, that's what that is.
And at first I thought to myself, where did I go wrong?
You did nothing wrong.
But my daughter loves that dog, man.
I mean, absolutely loves that dog.
Emotional support?
Yeah.
All right.
Well, let's get the show cracking.
Charles D. King will be joining us this morning man he's the ceo of macro studios now if you don't know what macro is uh
they do a bunch of different things but they fund a lot of black big black hollywood business uh
like fences they funded they funded uh they cloned tyrone tyrone and a host of others he's a brother
uh he started out he went to howard law he started working from the mailroom, worked his way up.
And we're going to talk to him about all that.
I love to see brothers winning like that.
So we'll talk to him a little bit.
And then we got front page news next with Teslin Figaro.
Let's go.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Let's get in some front page news.
Our guest co-host Willie D is here.
And Teslin Figaro, good morning.
Good morning, DJ Envy.
Good morning to the big homie, Willie D. morning willie he can't hear you we turned off his phone you can hear him he said good morning
she said good morning good morning okay now let's get on what's up charlamagne peace ted let's get
right into it donald trump let's go yes i i didn't think i i would be the first one to admit that i
never thought this particular day would come.
But former President Donald Trump was indicted on four felony counts that accused him of working to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in the run up to the violent riot by his supporters at the U.S. Capitol.
Let's listen to U.S. Attorney General General Garland.
He explains what happens. And let's also listen to Trump.S. Attorney General Garland. He explains what happens and let's also listen
to Trump's response. Take a listen. So immediately after the January 6th attack on our democracy,
career men and women of the Justice Department engaged in what has become the largest investigation
in our history. In November last, I appointed Jack Smith, a special counsel, to take on the ongoing
investigation in order to underline the department's commitment to accountability and
independence. Mr. Smith and his team of experienced, principled career agents and prosecutors
have followed the facts and the law wherever they lead. Any questions about
this matter will have to be answered by the filings made in the courtroom.
Former president's campaign swiftly responding to the indictment saying they consider it an
attempt by the Biden administration to interfere with the upcoming 2024 election. The state calling
the four felony charges quote fake. Hey man, Donald Trump.
Hello. Go ahead, Terry. state calling the four felony charges quote fake hey man donald trump oh go ahead i always want to
just give you those those charges right quick uh conspiracy to defry the united states conspiracy
to obstruct an official proceeding obstruction of an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding
and conspiracy against rights so four felony charges hey man donald trump got more criminal
charges than nick cannon got kids and nick Cannon couldn't catch Trump if he tried.
78 criminal charges.
Okay, Nick Cannon is never going to have that many
kids. And look, nobody is above the
law. You are innocent until proven guilty
in this country, but there's consequences to your actions
and we've been watching Trump operate with impunity
for a long time and it seems like it's
all caught up. Yeah, 78
charges, but it should be
around 156 minimum because he is a
criminal he's an international criminal and he should have been locked up a long time ago him
and his constituents that's right i said it well it's happening now well let me ask you it's not
easy clearly that we've never seen this before a president president, you know, being indicted like this.
A president having all these criminal charges.
So this is something new.
So I'm sure something new would take a little bit longer.
But this is definitely happening now.
But he can still run for president, right?
That's what they're saying.
He's still leading in the polls right now and it's not even close.
So we have these conversations and yes, he's being indicted.
But he still could run for president and there's no problem with him running.
And he still can be the president, right absolutely and then when he's president he can
drop his own charges right he could uh wipe his own charges away well i don't know about that
that'd probably be yet another charge if he would want to do that let's just take step by step but
like charlamagne said yes he's absolutely still running and the polls i don't know if this is
more about biden or more about trump or this country but they are still uh neck and neck in the general election i did want to do just a quick
for folks who may not be following all of the charges that you mentioned just quickly uh there's
still one pending investigation the georgia election interference and then the three
indictments uh that have happened is now the january 6th insurrection the classified documents
and the hush money and you know again i was one of the ones that was skeptical to see if this january 6th
indictment whatever happened and so uh it did here we are i do say though we definitely need more
you know qualifications and stipulations to run for president because that's the problem i have
man think about any other business or any other industry if you was facing all of this if you had
all of these criminal charges you'd be suspended you'd be fired people wouldn't want to do business with you they'd
separate right i mean you can't even get an apartment right you can't even get an apartment
in some cities uh you know with a felony a place to live over your head and let alone
president united states and we know he hasn't been convicted yet but even still even even still
even being innocent until proven guilty so many industries
would separate themselves from you if you was facing all of these criminal charges yet he can
still run for president that's right like god dang we don't have we gotta have some better
stipulations and qualifications for running for president man and and be president not just run
but actually be president of the united states y'all don't want that the sad part about it is that this dude has been committing crimes from day one.
Like he is an international criminal.
And I can't wait for the day that we make accountability great again.
I can't wait for that day.
You feel like it's happening now.
We're going to see, though.
No, it's not happening because let's face it, man.
This country is ran by a bunch of corrupt people that's bottom
line all the way at the top both sides they are corrupt they are dirty and we need to have term
limits these people it's people that that are that are in office holding office that's telling us how
to live our life that's in control of our lives and they're way dumber than us and we sit back
and we're letting it happen.
These people should be
all locked up.
They should all be put in jail.
True indeed.
What accountability is
happening right now, Willie D.
I mean, the guy got
78 criminal charges.
I mean, what, four indictments?
I mean, that's a start.
I thought someone was...
Let's get to the convictions, man.
And let's get to the jail time.
They got to start somewhere.
Because I don't see them putting... Just like most people, most of us don't believe he'll ever do any time in prison.
I don't think so.
And that speaks volumes about this so-called.
I never thought this would happen.
I never thought he would get 78 criminal charges.
I never thought he would get indicted.
He's going to be the first person indicted to be president.
That too.
Thank you, Tez. We'll see you in a couple minutes let's get it off your chest
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Hello, who's this?
This is CJ.
CJ, what up? Get it off your chest.
I'm all right, bro.
You know, I'm representing that town.
CJ City J on the mic.
Talk to us. What's up?
I want to comment about politics with Donald Trump.
The thing about politics is that they always make the run.
They say what?
Every last one of them.
Donald Trump, he ain't a politician.
But you know what?
The rooster's coming on the ground.
He don't care about none of that s***.
All right.
For real.
There's not a person alive on this planet who don't care about 78 criminal charges and three indictments.
Why do people keep saying Donald Trump is not a politician?
The moment that he decided to run for office, he became a politician.
He's definitely a politician.
He is a politician.
Right.
100%.
Hello, who's this?
Yo, good boy, DJ Eazy.
What's going on?
What up, what up, Eazy?
What up?
Get it off your chest, brother.
Yo, Envy, man.
Good morning.
Charlamagne, good morning.
What's going on, man?
What's going on?
Peace, King.
How are you?
Can you hear us?
You said good morning.
Yo, listen. But real's going on, man? What's going on? Peace, King. How are you? Can you hear what she said? Good morning. Yo, listen.
But real talk, though, right?
I'm not sure what Trump beating these charges.
Wow.
I'm not sure what Trump being elected president is again.
Oh, my God.
Because when you look at it, now, honestly, when you look at it, who do we got?
We got Biden, 94 crack bill.
He's been running through all of that.
I mean, Trump been racist.
Trump been doing all this
and breaking all these laws,
but he's always been putting money
in the black community's pocket.
When it came to these STEMI checks,
we was living.
We was eating good through COVID.
Man, you listen to me.
So, I mean, who are we going to choose?
I'd rather choose a thug over a troll.
You can have all the money in your pocket
all you want,
but you don't want to...
What's the point of having money
in a fascist society, sir?
I told you. People don't care. He don't want to... What's the point of having money in a fascist society, sir? I told you.
People don't care.
Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.
What he said
just now is no different
from what white folks
said during slavery and even
in post-slavery. It's like
it boils down to money.
If it helps me out and I'm making
money for it, hey man, it doesn't matter if it's a crime.
It doesn't matter if it's immoral.
You know, I'm going to do it.
And that's the problem with people in America.
And that's the problem with living in a capitalistic society.
That's right.
Get it off your chest.
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Good morning.
The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
What's up, y'all?
This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records.
It's a family-friendly podcast.
Yeah, you heard that right.
A podcast for all ages.
One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going
to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it.
Make sure you check it out. Hey y'all, Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast
for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop.
Flash, slam, another one gone.
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The crack of the bat and another one gone.
The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about
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Like this one about Claudette Colvin,
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Check it.
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We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Jay. What's up, brother?
Get it off your chest. Holler at OG Willard. I'm a subscriber of his. I'm glad that y'all got somebody
on there that ain't gonna hold no punches. What's up, King? He said everybody at the top. they ain't gonna hold no punches what's up king he said everybody at the top it ain't just
the left it's the right and the left and the far right far left that's the rough and then they
want us to you know what i think i think that one side goes and do so bad that they make you run and
jump into the other people's arms other than taking time out and looking for people that are independent. Like, what's his name?
Nelson?
Used to be a college professor.
Got that phone.
Oh, Cornel West.
Dr. Cornel West.
Cornel West.
Yeah, nobody seems to talk about him, though.
I advertise for him.
He coming on Breakfast Club soon.
I think in the next couple of weeks.
Yeah.
Cornel West is a great human being.
The problem with our country is that we don't vote for the person who's best for the job.
We vote for the person we think can win.
Right.
Hello, who's this?
Hey, this is Anisha.
Hey, Anisha, good morning.
Get it off your chest, mama.
Hey, I was just hearing you guys talk about Trump and everything.
I think those charges that he has
pending i think he'll walk from those i think the politicians and everything just need a read
a whole readjusting like he was saying they are all corrupt i feel well they all corrupt
they all corrupt but he's not walking from 78 criminal charges and three indictments like they they crossed a lot of t's and dotted a lot of i's to uh you know bring charges against
a former president but what's the punishment going i mean i hope so i don't know what the
point is gonna be i really really do i'm focused on the punishment but lock this sucker up man
i mean put this sucker under the jailhouse throw away away the keys, man. Throw away the keys. In fact, put him under the jailhouse, man,
and put concrete on top of the jailhouse.
Let's make sure that sucker never come out, man.
I don't see how he walks from these.
He got to go.
Hello, who's this?
This is Tario.
This is NB, Charlemagne, Mr. Willie D.
What's up, kid?
Just chilling, man.
Listen, Mr. Willie D, it's kid just chilling man listen Mr. Willie D
it's an honor just to be here in your presence
to hear you
alright listen let me tell you something
a lot of people say gangster rap started with
a lot of other rappers
I used to pull up that song Assassin y'all did
way back in the 80's y'all my favorites
man
yes alright listen
but here's the whole thing with Trump.
If y'all
look at it,
they're playing
chess,
not checkers.
They put
DeSantis in
the place.
I mean,
Trump won't
go where he
gotta go
just to put
DeSantis
where they
wanna go.
So they
gotta play
this strategically
and just
pay attention
to it.
I don't
think Republicans
want DeSantis
either,
brother.
I mean,
one thing we
know about
Republicans,
they're gonna
fall in line regardless, but when you look at these poll numbers, it don't seem like they want DeSantis either, brother. I mean, one thing we know about Republicans, they're going to fall in line regardless.
But when you look at these poll numbers, it don't seem like they want DeSantis either.
I'm looking at something right now.
It says if the election for the Republican presidential nominee were held today, this is in the New York Times, by the way, which candidate would you most likely vote for?
Donald Trump, 54%.
DeSantis has 17%.
I don't think they want Ron
like y'all think they want Ron
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we got your rumor report we got to discuss
Lizzo she's in the rumors
some of her dances are saying that
she fat shamed him
that's hilarious
we have to acknowledge that is a hilarious headline we'll talk about it When we come back That's hilarious Yo shut up We have to acknowledge
That is a hilarious headline
And we'll talk about it
When we come back
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Good morning
The Breakfast Club
Man sit your ass down
And act like we got a show to do
I get my headphones
Oh you didn't have them
No
Oh okay
Morning everybody
It's DJ Envy
Charlamagne Tha Guy
We are The Breakfast Club
We got our guest co-host
Willie D with with us.
And let's get to the rumors.
Let's talk Lizzo.
Rumor has it.
Rumor has it.
Call out a name or you gossiping or you chatty patting.
I am gossiping.
This is The Rumor Report.
I mean, I guess we on The Breakfast Club.
This is where the tea spills, right?
Right.
Now, yesterday, three of Lizzo's former backup dancers
accused the singer of sexual harassment and creating a hostile work environment.
Now, the three defendants. What about the weight shaming? You missed out. Don't don't leave out the weight.
I'm going to get to that. But that's the funniest part of the head. I'm going to get to.
We have to admit that's a hilarious headline. Before we discuss, we have to admit seeing that Lizzo possibly weight shame somebody is hilarious.
Like those are the type of headlines that comedy shows are built around.
Well, let's let's discuss.
So three of the defendants, Lizzo, Lizzo's production company and Charlene, which is the dance captain.
Now, in three of the lawsuits, they say that three of Lizzo's backup dancers alleged that at a club in Amsterdam,
she pressured them to take turns touching a nude performer's breasts, even after the dancer said no.
Invited dancers to catch dildos launched from the performer's vaginas and eat bananas protruding from the performer's vagina.
Now, if that story is true, do you really think it would be something as healthy as a banana in a strip club?
Like no wings, no fries.
Like you really think it's going to be something that's a good source of potassium?
Asked one of the security staff members to strip on stage.
The dancers also alleged that Lizzo subjected them to an excruciating 12-hour audition rehearsal
after accusing them of drinking before performances.
Lizzo allegedly planned to fire and send them home if their performances wasn't good enough.
Allegedly, dancers didn't use the bathroom out of fear of losing their job.
One dancer, Crystal Williams, argued to Lizzzo that they weren't drinking on the job in response lizzo allegedly
mocked her and then fired her five days later another dancer ariana davis recorded a rehearsal
due to health concerns from an eye condition in response lizzo allegedly called out her weight
gain berated her and fired her davis was then forced to stay in a room while
a security staff member searched her phone to make sure
the footage was deleted.
She is now suing Lizzo's production company
for false imprisonment.
What is a false imprisonment? I don't understand that part.
They said it made her stay in a hotel room
while they deleted the footage.
Oh, okay.
Now, the dancers also alleged that they experienced
racist and fatphobic discrimination at the hands of the company's tour members.
When asking for downtown compensation at a rate of 50 percent of a weekly pay, they were told that they were disrespectful for being and only offered 25 percent by the accountant.
And a lawsuit, they state only the dance cast comprised of full figured women of color were even spoken on to this manner additionally lizzo's former performers uh claimed that their dance captainess is charlene was
sexually inappropriate according to the plaintiffs uh charlene described sexual fantasies simulated
oral sex commented on the sex lives of other dancers allegedly uh the dancer's lawyer uh
ron zebrano said in a statement uh this stunning nature of how Lizzo and her management team treated their performance
seemed to go against everything Lizzo stands for publicly,
while privately she weight shames her dancers and demeans them in ways that are only illegal,
but also absolutely demoralizing.
When I first heard that, I thought the story was going to be about her shaming skinny women,
but she allegedly was shaming the big girls.
Yes. The majority of this seems to be about her management, skinny women. But she allegedly was shaming the big girls. Yes.
The majority of this seems to be about her management, though, right?
It feels like it, from what you just read.
A little bit of everything.
But, you know, it's like anything else.
With any other lawsuit, there's two sides to each story.
And then anybody can claim whatever they want when it comes to a lawsuit,
and then it's up to Lizzo to try to, you know, have to fight it in court.
And you don't understand that if you've never been sued.
Like, I don't know
what's true and what's not true and I'm not about to speculate
but I do know people sue and just because
people sue doesn't mean it's true and it doesn't
mean it isn't either that's right that's why they have
a court system and there's a lot been
said here though man there's a lot
lot lot has been said
and it's going to be interesting to see how
it plays out because often
times you know people
will accuse you of something and there's you know one or two things they say you did
this is a whole plethora of things but you got to prove it yeah that's that's the whole thing
and with a lawsuit especially when you get an attorney attorney's job is to try to put as many
things especially in the press as possible to make people look bad in this case lizzo hasn't said
anything and lizzo probably her attorney will probably tell her say nothing because wait for the court case but
like you said all this stuff has to be proved you know it can can that stuff be proved in a court of
law that's that's what we have to wait for i'm interested to see how the people who uh do business
with lizzo react because you know they usually like to react and pull things you know just based
off you know allegations but you know lizzo lizzo checks off a lot of boxes all right she's a woman They usually like to react and pull things just based off allegations.
But Lizzo checks off a lot of boxes.
She's a woman.
She's a black woman.
She's a big woman.
You know what I mean?
And she's always been an advocate for marginalized people.
Yes, absolutely.
And black people as well.
I'm interested to see how a lot of these corporations react.
Because I would think that they wouldn't have a knee-jerk reaction and just start pulling stuff.
I would think somebody like Lizzo would get the benefit of the doubt.
I would think.
Absolutely, I would think so, too.
I don't know.
They don't give men the benefit of the doubt
when they get caught up in these me-too types, man.
No, they definitely don't.
Oh, man, come on.
If she was a man, a black, she'd be out of here.
Yeah.
Three different women saying things like that?
Oh, she'd be out of here already.
They wouldn't give that human no grace.
That's why I said
I'm interested to see
how they react with Lizzo.
Yeah, because Lizzo
is somebody that the world loved.
They still love her.
Well, love.
Yeah, well, love.
I mean, before this.
See how you do to people?
No, they love her.
They love Lizzo.
Oh, that mercy.
I want to see how this plays out.
But like I said,
this is a lawsuit.
And like a lawsuit,
you know, it's, you know,
you got to see in the court of law.
All right. And that is your rumor report. Now, when we come back, we got front page news.
Teslin Figaro will be joining us and also next hour, Charles D. King will be joining us.
He is the CEO of Macro Studios. That is the company that finances a lot of black films, directs a lot of black films and make sure they put a lot of black films to the forefront some of the films are offenses uh sorry to bother you cloning tyrone uh judas and the black messiah
they clone tyrone yes a lot of different things ray and dion on the netflix out of the tv show
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It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Let's get in some front page news.
Cousin Figaro is back.
What up, Tiz?
Absolutely.
What's up, DJ?
Envy the big homie Willie D and Charlamagne the guy.
What's up, Tiz?
Peace to the hood, Whisperer.
Now let's talk about the lawyers from Malcolm X's family.
What's going on in that situation?
Yeah, I don't know if a lot of people have heard about the family of Malcolm X suing the government,
but lawyers for the family of Malcolm X have unveiled new witness testimony that they say corroborates their claim that U.S. authorities were involved in his assassination.
Let's take a listen.
Tuesday's press conference introduced Mustafa Hassan.
Hassan says he was part of Malcolm X's security detail the night of the assassination, February 21st, 1965, at the Audubon Ballroom in Upper Manhattan.
Reading from his signed affidavit.
I saw a man running down the aisle towards the exit where I had been posted with a gun in his hand.
I would later see the same man outside as he was being beaten by Malcolm's followers,
while a group of policemen who suddenly showed up on the scene asking, is he with us? While at the same
time holding back Malcolm's followers from beating him. He says despite what he witnessed, he was
never approached to give a statement or appear in court. He and Crump's legal team believe the
shooter was one of several informants at the Audubon ballroom to carry out the assassination.
Mr. Hassan said he is certain, no doubt in his mind,
that Hagan was working on behalf of the NYPD or another government agency.
So what does that mean for the family? Like, what are they going to be able to sue?
Absolutely. They are actually suing the FBI, CIA and New York Police Department for 100 million,
alleging that the law enforcement agency played a part in Malcolm X's execution in 1965. The daughter of Malcolm X said, for years,
our family has fought for the truth to come to light concerning his murder. The lawsuit also
claims that officials withheld evidence in the original prosecution of the three men convicted
of killing Malcolm X in an effort to conceal their roles in his death.
And I'll just leave this with the quote that we know Malcolm X said.
They said the media is most powerful.
The media is the most powerful entity on Earth.
They have the power to make the innocent guilty and make the guilty innocent.
Ben Crump was handling that case, too?
Yes, sir.
Go ahead, Ben Crump.
Ben Crump don't be playing.
I saw Ben Crump do that.
And I saw the Henrietta Lacks family.
They settled their suit against biotech.
Like, they reached a settlement in that case because of the cells that were harvested without her consent.
These are a lot of the cases that they don't talk a lot about, you know, Charlamagne.
You know, they like to focus on police brutality, but actually does more cases like this than anything at all.
And, again, who has sued the FBI, the CIA?
Let me say that again for the people in the back, the FBI, the CIA and the New York Police Department on behalf of Malcolm X.
And yes, his family would be the one receiving those benefits.
But it's more than just it's not just about money.
It's putting on the record that one of our leaders were assassinated by the government. And just to FYI, in 2021, they overturned the Supreme Court, New York Supreme Court
overturned two of the men's convictions
because they said that
they withheld evidence. So
this is what makes this case stronger
because when you got allowed
folks out because, you know,
they were allegedly innocent, now
they're saying, hey, you said that they didn't
kill Malcolm X, so who did? And now they're
trying to go after the government on the civil side.
That's the biggest point, Tiz, is
putting the government on blast because
everybody knows
that the U.S. government played a role
in Malcolm X's assassination.
Everybody knows that.
So it's cool that they're putting
them on blast, but we all know
they're not going to see a penny
of that money.
Because if they pay that lawsuit out, they're going to have to pay the rest of them out.
Because this government is responsible for killing a lot of our leaders, black and white and others.
Oh, yeah, 100 percent. I mean, you know, my late night talk show, The God's Honest Truth.
I did a whole second episode about the fbi and i
was asking why is jay guhu's name still on the building when this man was responsible for so
many of our black leaders you know being assassinated he was the ringleader he was a
document he was a harbor human being his name should not be on any kind of buildings his name
should not be on street signs airports none of that stuff because he don't deserve that. You know, they absolutely need to be held
accountable, but they won't be held accountable. It's like somebody's suing me and I have to
write the check. You're going to sue me? You're coming to me to sue me and you're pleading
your case to me. Hey, Willie, you messed over, man. I want to sue me and you you pleading your case to me hey willie you messed over man
i want to sue you will you take on my lawsuit yeah come on in let me hear what you got to say
all right you sue me for a hundred thousand dollars okay cool all right yeah man uh i've
decided that get get out of here you know that's what's gonna happen like you're going to the government to ask the
government for relief for your pain right that they cause i feel that but it's still it's still
important you know that that it like you said willie that it goes on the record you know uh
somebody gotta do something somebody gotta put it on the record and so since 1965 you know i don't
see nobody else had no leaders no attorneys no congresspeople no Senate you know
like let's put this on the record whether they pay or not I mean as you
know lawsuits are not always about getting paid or you know the result but
it's really putting it on the record so I do hear you I feel you but I don't
want to gloss over the fact that somebody had the the gall to put the FBI
on blast I think that that's critically important.
I agree. I absolutely
agree with you because it takes a lot of
courage. As we know,
you can easily end up
taking a dirt nap
shaking up the government. I agree.
That takes a lot of courage.
Salute to Ben Crump and
everybody involved. Salute to Ben. Ben has done some
good work this week. Not only is that on the record, the Henrietta Lacks case is on the record,
and I know that family getting a settlement from Biotech.
Y'all can kiss my ass on that.
They're going to get some money, and they deserve it.
Well, that is front page news.
Thank you, Tez.
Can I give a quick shout-out quickly?
Sure, of course.
Okay, just since Willie D is here, I want to give a shout-out to Willie D
for helping me put together an organizing event in Houston, Texas today with a conversation with Michael, who you know is our brother, a.k.a. Killer Mike.
So Willie D helped me put together an organizing event with brother Derek Muhammad.
I'm also doing an event this week in Dallas with the DLC.
And basically what we're doing is going to the barbershops, and we're sitting down, and we're talking about the record.
To me, this is what really symbolizes 50 years in hip-hop, to talk about how hip-hop has influenced politics and social justice.
As you guys know, because you've all heard the record, Killer Mike's new album, Michael, is a statement of this generation.
We're going to sit through and go through the lyrics and chop it up and really talk about what that album means.
Thank you so much to my brother, Willie D.
Absolutely, Tiz. You're doing some great work and killer mike salute salute salute it's beautiful to see somebody like killer mike represent the culture because he is the
culture he's the definition of the culture all right now when we come back charles d king will
be joining us he's the ceo of macro studios he's's a brother that really started from the bottom. I mean, he went to Howard Law.
He started at the mailroom, worked his way up,
and now he's funding a lot of movies,
and the majority of them, black movies.
So we'll talk to him when we come back.
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Now, let's get into our guest.
He goes by the name of Charles D. King.
He's the CEO of Macro Studios.
Now, Macro Studios is a studio company that finances black films, directs,
and helps so much of
putting black films in the forefront.
The brother started from Howard Law, started in the mailroom, and he's doing big things.
Charles D. King, good morning.
Thanks for having me.
How you feeling?
Man, I'm excited to be here.
Now, where you from, brother?
I grew up in Decatur, Georgia, man.
Decatur, Georgia.
Yeah.
And how did you get into funding movies and into doing things like that?
Where did that come from?
I don't think that's something a kid thinks about when they're a kid you know man it's a long journey man tell us
you know i got the bug in college my big break was here in new york city i got an internship at
summer 95 working at mtv and it was really from that where i just learned about all these different
aspects of the industry and someone said you know what You'd make a really good lawyer, but you'd make a great agent.
I had no idea what agents did, but then I looked it up, and I was like, oh, man.
A lot of the heads of these studios, guys like David Geffen, Barry Diller,
all these media moguls, they started out as agents.
So that really kind of stuck in my head and became my thought about my initial path.
And really, that's kind of what I did.
When I graduated from law school, I moved out to L.A.
I landed in the William Morris mailroom, became an agent two and a half years.
You said in the mailroom.
Started in the mailroom.
So as an attorney, you started as a mailroom.
Yes, started in the mailroom.
Do most attorneys start in the mailroom or is it the fact that you were black?
You know what?
No.
The good thing is this is the training ground where
people whether you had an mba law degree film school everyone starts at the bottom of this and
that's it was one of those things where it's actually prestigious to actually get into the
mailroom so the fact that i landed in that mailroom six weeks after i moved to la at the william
morris agency like the the oldest entertainment institution in our business it was like a big
deal and then to get promoted in two and a half years where you know it was really it was at a
time where i was the first of many of doing our thing in that space you know charles is being
very humble man he's the founding ceo of macro macro was a big big deal as a film studio thank
you bro what i'm saying could you tell people the whole complete picture of what macro is, what you do, even some of the things that you put out?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, man. We lost the company eight and a half years ago. Raised capital, brought in great partners.
And we're we're operating in numerous areas. We've got three. We have our content studios, our film studio, our television studio.
We have a representation vertical and we also have a creative agency all within the hub of
of of macro and some of the projects we've had about 14 movies that we made and had out in the
marketplace we've had 15 oscar nominations so some of our projects have included you know most
recently they cloned tyrone you know with jamie foxx john boyega teyana paris great pr plan the whole jamie clone thing i know that was fake
okay yeah we can't you know that that that was just that was just happened man it was crazy
circumstances with everything but i'm so blessed and we're so happy that he's doing better man
and uh but no we've had other projects like judas and the black messiah but then also sorry to
bother you was another one of our projects that we co-produced and financed.
Mudbound was another one that was the first movie that we actually financed and produced.
Fences and I could go on, but Really Love.
We've had television shows, you know, like Raising Dion, which was like the number one kids and family show on Netflix.
So we've been involved with a lot of different things across all platforms.
What makes Macro different than other film studios?
I would say what makes us different is we're very much artist advocates. The fact that we also have
raised capital and we have a team of executives that are best in class throughout the industry.
And we're very focused only on making sure that people of color are at the center of all of our
projects. And we're also making sure that the production quality and the value of our content, regardless
of the genre, is at the highest levels of execution, is at the level of cinematic excellence
regarding everything that we've done.
So you take that through line of people of color, not only domestically and globally,
artist excellence, artist advocacy, being empowered both financially and creatively,
I think is really one
of the reasons why our company has really been blazing the trail and and using it used as a
model for many others who are coming up to the industry what's the difference between linking
with amazon and doing a multi-year deal like y'all have done are raising 90 million to broaden the
media ambitions like what's what's what's the difference it's a combination okay so the fact that we raised capital was to build out the team build out
our infrastructure we have our own capital to develop projects like they clone tyrone where
we can incubate them internally we can put them together and then we go and figure out who is the
right distribution partner for that project so that's what we'll do this in a black messiah
that's what we did you know so with a project like they's what with Judas and the Black Messiah that's what
we did you know so with a project like they cloned Tyrone we developed the project we paid for the
script we had it ready we had cast attack and then we went to marketplace and then everyone
was bidding on it and this one landed at Netflix and Netflix was you know wildly excited about it
and they really like rolled out as you can see from the film they didn't cut any corners and
they provided all the tools and resources behind this young filmmaker and so we realized
that in this case that was going to be the best partner for it i was going to ask when it comes
to to picking a project or green lighting a project what is is it story is it working with
a director because sometimes you might not see the vision that a director sees because he might be a
different art form so how do y'all decide which i'm going to go with you know what man first off we have a culture at the company where everyone's got a voice
everyone from the youngest executive to the ceo and i'd say first and foremost passion and vision
mean mean everything so we want to make sure that every project that's on our slate there's someone
at the company where they feel like this project has to get made like
if this movie doesn't get made like i've got to see this come into existence every one of these
projects is almost like a miracle in and of themselves and it takes a lot of hard work in
a village to get behind them so you got to have passion the filmmaker and the artist at the center
of it they have to have vision they have the uniqueness of perspective and point of view and
the way that they do that they're telling the story and why they want to tell it.
And so that's one of the key things we look for.
We also look for people that are looking to do something differently, that are having a different perspective, not just making the same kind of run-of-the-mill content.
I think we've seen a lot of things that are just kind of turned around and you've seen it before.
So we want to make sure there's a freshness to it.
So we have like six things we have on our macro rubric.
We make sure that there's at least four out of those six things.
But at the heart of it is passion.
I love the fact that y'all like black sci-fi, man.
Sorry to bother you.
They clone Tyrone.
I want to see more black people in sci-fi.
I love that.
Hey, man.
Like I said, man, we know where we come from.
We know who the Egyptians are.
And we also know where we're going to be in the future.
And we also know how involved we've been with technology
and so many inventions through history.
And so it's important for us to make sure that we're making projects
that are sci-fi.
We also have projects that are action-oriented,
just like the more dramatically period piece you know critically acclaimed projects we've been involved
too and as well it's important for us to make sure that we're making projects across all genres
what movie got away from you that you said you know whether you passed on even like damn i
shouldn't pass it or you just couldn't grab oh man there is one there's something to stand you on there's one
there's one man there was a big one um one of our projects was uh with roman j israel with with
with sony with denzel washington we did that we were executive producers and co-financiers of that
after we had amazing success with denzel uh on fences and you know roman j israel you know i didn't do as well as
we'd all hoped for at sony but we also had a great relation with with the studio and we were trying to
find other things to do they brought us spider verse and said hey man the spider verse is dope
uh you know our friends and we said we would love you know we loved it we didn't have enough capital
and so we couldn't come on as co-financiers.
And that's one I'm like, still to this day,
especially when the latest Spider-Verse came out
and it was so amazing.
I remember being at the premiere with my sons.
It was 16 and 14.
That would have been amazing.
But obviously, man, it's an incredible film.
So that's one that got away from us.
Hopefully, there won't be others.
All right, when we come back, we got more with charles d king so don't move it's the breakfast
club good morning it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it
with charles d king he's the ceo of macro studios he's a brother that uh backs directs and finances
a lot of uh black movies out there charlamagne what's more important the the and i don't want to say
what's more important but ownership or capital you can have ownership yeah but if you don't like
in your case if you didn't if you don't have the capital to invest in something like a
spider verse i think capital helps lead you to ownership there are some people that are so
uniquely positioned they can also leverage who they are and their skills to get ownership at times if they've got, you know, depending upon the situation.
I do it all the time.
Even when they don't have capital, you know, because they've got sweat equity and maybe they take less money up front.
But then they say, but hey, I want to own it.
And I've seen those types of deals and been involved in deals like that during my time as an agent.
And we've seen that even since. So I think ownership absolutely matters the most.
Having capital and access to capital helps you leverage into ownership.
Do you only want to do black productions?
You know, with so many of our projects at the center of them and i in our core to have been
black production but we also we lost the company we said it was important to make sure that we
were going to be making content for poc community globally and domestically so we have been making
productions that that have been involved the latinx community the aapi community there are
projects we're looking at for the indigenous community
and so I'll take
like Hentify was our second television
so it was a kind of multi-generational
family
half hour comedy that we did as a
digital series originally. Partnered
with America Ferreira, did it as a
digital series and then it turned into
a half hour show that did two seasons
on Netflix and we're really proud of that.
Or a movie like Tiger Tail that we made for Netflix that Alan Yang directed.
It made his directorial debut.
It was a beautiful story about his family, kind of based on his family moving from Taiwan to the United States.
There's a film called Blue Bayou that we made.
And also, you know, Justin Chong.
They really talked about immigration reform
that he co-stars in with Alicia Vikander.
So we're absolutely, you know,
the culture's always going to be at the core,
but we're making sure that people of color
whose stories haven't been told across the board
are also being told,
and we partner with great producers and creators
to make sure we can do that as well
uh i wanted to ask you too um what does macro do right now during a writer's strike and a
actor's strike like what is what is macro doing unscripted content documentary like what do you
yeah we have um i'd say first off what i think about is um when people are going through periods
of chaos and there's a lot of change
and upheaval, I'd look for the opportunity within that. And so when I look for the opportunity,
I'm looking to provide opportunities, not only for our company, but unlocking and creating value
for others as well. And so I'm spending a lot of time thinking about new models, new business lines,
as well as obviously, you know obviously building bridges with the international community
and figuring out international productions.
There's IP across every platform imaginable that we're thinking about,
from video games to manga, comic books, graphic novels.
But, of course, we're getting active in the scripted space and the documentary space.
Most recently, we were very fortunate to be one of the executive producers on dear mama which the brilliant director Alan Hughes
Allen you know he's the he's a he's visionary he's the man and obviously
they just said you know he was blessed with two Emmy nominations for that we
have a few other documentaries that are in production that I can't speak to yet
we haven't announced them,
but we're very active there. We're investing quite heavily in the space. And we're also,
like I said, looking at the areas that we're currently operating in, how we're going to go
further into them, but then what are other complimentary lines of business for us as we
scale the company. So if anything, i'm actually busier than ever it's
gotta be tough for you though right because you're a like you know like i said the founding ceo
of an actual film studio so you're kind of on the suit side but then you also are for the creators
as well the actors and the writers so so who do you think's being unfair in this situation well
we're not in the amp tp which is you know those are the streamers
the streaming platforms and the major studios we're an independent studio so we're not part of
that that organization and like i said when you asked me earlier what's different from macro and
other studios we actually share an upside with the artists that we're working with we want to
make sure that we're providing value not just for ourselves but also the artists that we're working with. We want to make sure that we're providing value not just for ourselves, but also the artists
that we work with.
And so that there's where it's a win-win opportunity.
So, of course, I'm leaning on the side
of being an artist advocate
and wanting to make sure that the artists
in our community can support themselves and live.
And so I understand the financial pressures
and the change of what's happened in the business models
as there's a tremendous amount of investment made to build up subscriber growth on all the streaming platforms.
And, you know, there's a market correction that took place last year and there was, you know, shareholder value that was lost. under tremendous pressure but at the same time when you've got showrunners of prominent television
shows and actors that are extremely recognizable who have to drive uber in between projects
clearly there's got to be a balance here and uh and and something needs to something needs to
change and so i think that what we're going to see through all of this is there's obviously it's a
very tough time in the industry but change was needed and and you have to go through periods of like like like the one we're
going through right now to get on the other side of it while you know we're all feeling pain from
it but i do think it's going to make the industry better in the long term i think it's too many
screamers and and i think too many of these screamers uh are not being transparent about
what they're actually doing
like numbers wise yeah and i think they care more about wall street and and what those stock
evaluations look like than actual profit well i could tell you there's definitely a lot with
around data and analytics we've been fortunate enough with our projects with
you know netflix in particular they'll share share information just real verbally share
you know 10 days in 28 days and how well how well the content is performing where it's you know
being streamed and the numbers of hours that are that are being spent and it's really eye-opening
when when we've gotten that information because these notions of certain content you know certain
content with us doesn't travel, doesn't perform.
It's not true.
You know, Raising Dion was the number one kids and family show globally
about an eight-year-old kid with a black kid with superpowers
being raised by his mom, black woman.
And so what I hope for is that there'll be more transparency
going forward with sharing of data and analytics and
and perhaps there's going to be some tie for independent studios who provide content for
platforms and the artists that are making content that's performing well on these platforms where
there's going to be some upside for people when it when these projects do perform right now what's
happening is everyone's paid on the front end
and uh you know you really bought out on the back end and and back in the day used to have
syndication or you know with box office you had you know the theatrical box office results to go
by and so there needs to be something that's going to shift to be able to you know for when projects
are actually hits and when they're successful how does that work for somebody like y'all because
y'all y'all do co-pros, right?
Yeah, we do co-pros.
So when you come in
and you've already funded half of the project,
do they give y'all back in?
Yeah, we get the statements.
We get the statements.
We'll share alongside,
but it also sits behind any of the marketing expenses
and the distribution expenses as well.
So you never really know.
There's a certain amount of transparency.
I mean, there's always people can audit, and we haven't had to do that yet but look each product each project for us is different
there's some projects that we're the studio to deliver the project for a platform some of them
we make independent is licensed by a platform some we're co-financing with traditional studio
so it really depends on what the business model is. But the long term is really at the end of the day, we figure out what is the best scenario for each project.
What is the best scenario for us to maintain and build long term library and asset value?
But also what is the best way for this project creatively as well?
We weigh all of those when we make our decision about how we're going to go about our project.
All right. When we come back, we got more with Charles D. King.
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Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
We're still kicking it with Charles D. King.
He's the CEO of Macro Studios.
He's a brother that backs, directs, and finances
a lot of black movies
out there. Charlamagne? What is a Charles
King dream project for Macro?
What's that one you
want?
Well, first and foremost,
one dream project is Dacron Tyrell being
out in the marketplace right now because
to be honest with you, man, we're so excited
with how the culture
has leaned in on this film.
You know, the freshness of the story.
You got a first-time filmmaker.
I watched it three times.
I don't want to talk to anybody
who hasn't watched it at least twice.
If you haven't watched it at least twice,
I don't want to have a conversation.
Man, it's hard to pick up everything.
I've seen it.
I've read every draft of the script.
I was there every day through production
and I've seen every cut of the film and I still pick up gems each time I seen it. I've read every draft of the script. I was there every day through production, and I've seen every cut of the film, and I still pick up gems each time I watch it.
And Joel Taylor is a brilliant filmmaker.
And I'm just really passionate and excited to see how the marketplaces responded and if people really, really saw the fresh voice, but then the smart, subversive things we're saying.
So that's one one passion
project and another thing i would say i love movies that show us as kings and queens i'd love
for us to see um a film where you see us as warriors like the woman king classic right like
that was that was bad when you see more movies like that so i'm thinking you know what's gonna
be our gladiator you know what's gonna be our uh our brave heart and so absolutely one thousand percent one of my patch projects will be making
a movie of that scope and magnitude on that level and um yeah we have a few we're developing but
definitely something along those lines what did the what did the clones represent what was the
metaphor for the clones to you i say it's got a lot for
you to think about about what's happening in our communities and and um we know what's historically
happened to you know dwells from tuskegee alabama you know you know about the tuskegee experiments
and um there's so much that's happened in history and there's so much that continues to happen about
what gets pumped into our what gets pumped into our community you look you walk in any community
you know what you see when you work in certain communities and i think that there are a lot of
real life metaphors and examples that are in our film they clone tyrone to get people to
think and ponder watch it two or three times,
have real dialogue for us.
And then you also see what happens
when the community clicks up
and they come together.
Yeah, for me,
it represented the never-ending cycle
of generational trauma that can exist
and how every generation,
there is the characters in that film,
or the people that I represent, like the drug dealer, the you know the the um i don't want to say
the whore but yeah you know yeah but also to your point when we come together we can break those
generational absolutely traumas but what you're saying about that generational trauma man it's
real man and and uh and the trauma but then how even through the trauma the strength that
we still have and and the heart that we still have as people so i think about that time we were in
production one of the most powerful days on set was i can't i can't give i can't give it away here
on the show for those who haven't seen it but it's the one scene where you know you got a man
wouldn't he's not going to the door talking to his mom and he was this he
really needed and that really happened in that scene later on yeah that the
emotion on set that day of just like you know this this this this this brother
who's supposed to be this stereotypical drug dealer
who just needed his mom, really needed his mama.
And it just says something about our communities
and how our mothers are there for us,
but then what happens when people aren't there for them?
But then when he steps outside and that conversation that happened with Junebug,
the lightness around it and how it reminded him of his brother.
So there were warm elements like that for us
that we needed to make sure were in there.
There's another part,
I don't want to give the movie away either,
but it's like when it shows how the black woman
wasn't under control.
Yeah.
So she couldn't be brainwashed.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like that was like,
yeah, that was powerful, that was, yeah,
that was powerful, too.
I got a whole...
How she switched it up on him.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I got a whole thesis
I could write about Deacon.
But also the strength of her,
of her and her character.
And then when she...
She was leading the charge.
That's right.
That's right.
Oh, y'all don't want to do it?
I'll go do it myself.
That's right.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes.
Okay, y'all, y'all going to...
Y'all not going to man up.
I'm going to... The steps I'm going to take, yes. go do it myself that's right yes okay y'all y'all gonna y'all not gonna man up i'm gonna the steps i'm gonna take yes and then even in that moment when uh the uh keith and sullivan southern southern character was like i don't even care about you like you know i mean
like basically that's basically that's what he basically told yes but your regular old yeah yes
but she was somebody to them that was i don't want to say i was about to say worthy of rescue but i
don't want to get the movie i'm gonna see of rescue but I don't want to give the movie away I'm going to see the movie
this weekend guys
I was out of town
I was out of town
I was in a letter
for Karsha
I was there
I'm back this weekend
I'm going to watch this
you went for a fun ride bro
yeah I can't wait to see it
I can't wait to see it
so 15 Oscar nominations
3 wins
congratulations
is there any project
that you thought
should have got a win
Judas and the Black Messiah
we got
we got
we got Song and Daniel won for that one.
I felt like we were definitely right there.
We were right there in contention.
There were a lot of great movies that year, but I feel like we were close.
There was definitely a sense from members of the Academy that we were very much in the mix on that one.
And we're incredibly proud of that film honestly i'll say we're more proud of the fact that chairman fred hampton you know junior and mother akua and and so many other members of the
black panther party that they that they still love the film and were and supportive of and how it's
really you know been able to educate our community about you know this revolutionary so oscar
nominations were great but that was the thing that was the most rewarding of that.
In terms of someone that I felt like got robbed,
man, there's a few, but I got to tell you,
I felt like Jamie Foxx, man, and Just Mercy, man.
It was really, he did his thing.
Just like he did his thing.
Y'all seen all these movies.
I ain't even know who the macro movie is.
Even raising the deal on the TV show.
We were one of the executive producers
we co-financed the film
we weren't
creatively involved
in that project
that was
other great producers
but that one
we were more financiers
and Jamie Foxx
did his thing
and he was incredible
I mean when did
Jamie Foxx not up
for some type of Oscar
you know what I mean
like every role he did
even in
Nicol and Tyrone
knock on wood man
I feel like his performance is absolutely worthy of real conversation, man.
He is an extraordinary actor.
And it was just so incredible to work with.
So much fun, but he brought it, man.
He is truly like a gifted man.
I always wonder why like Macro doesn't collaborate with like tyler perry and
everything that he's doing because it just seemed like it would make so much sense well man uh well
tyler is you know was one of the artists moguls that i was fortunate blessed to work with i was
his main agent for over 10 years oh yeah uh back at at uh william morris and wme and and um he had Oh, wow, wow, wow. film and TV and as a young agent I was right there as part of the forefront of it alongside of his lawyers of
structuring those deals at Lionsgate
and the 1090 shows
and I clearly
saw when someone
who has a vision and a team
behind them to also
support his vision
in addition to the hard work
literally tenacious hard work
the fact that he bet on himself, that he invested in himself,
and you look at the empire that he's built.
So I have tremendous respect for him.
And so obviously, even when I went to leave WME and I said,
hey, I'm going to go do my thing, he was just like,
you're going to wish you had done this five years earlier.
It's going to be incredible.
And I have to say that although we haven't worked on a project together
or found that thing, there's absolutely nothing but respect and love.
And I'm sure at some point we'll find something.
But, you know, clearly there's nothing but respect.
There you have it.
Charles D. King.
Appreciate you for doing it.
Yeah, thank you so much, brother.
This was a great conversation.
Thank you, brother.
It's Charles King.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
We got our guest co-host, Willie D, with us.
Let's get to the rumors.
Let's talk Lil' Meech.
Rumor has it.
Rumor.
Rumor has it.
Call out a name or you gossiping or you chatty patty.
I'm gossiping.
This is The Rumor Report.
I mean, I guess we on The Breakfast Club.
This is where the tea spills, right?
Right.
Now, Meech was, Lil' Meech was trending yesterday for a couple of reasons. Well, one, it seems like his relationship with Summer Walker, they're saying is over.
She posted something on social media. It's just crazy how eager will really try to pursue the F out of you for two years.
Make you meet the whole family, want to be around you and your kids all day.
Pay bills just to embarrass you to the world laughing my
ass off i don't understand men but i'm gonna give it to god well yesterday a ring camera footage
surfaced of little me entering and exiting a home with another woman uh and uh he actually spoke
about it after the footage came out and i can't help my cousin bring the bags in the house. Went to the grocery store, man.
Problem was that
not too many people seen grocery
bags. So people started making memes and they
started adding grocery bags. They started adding
shopping carts and all those other things.
I saw groceries. You saw groceries?
I saw groceries. Didn't Janelle Monáe say?
Not Janelle Monáe. What Janelle Aiko said?
I hate the booty like groceries.
You seen the groceries. I see some groceries
going in that damn apartment.
Okay.
The crazy thing is
I'm married,
but I ain't blind.
How could you have a neighbor
that releases the ring footage
of your apartment?
Is that legal?
I don't know.
First of all,
I want to welcome
Lil' Meech to Houston.
Oh, he was in Houston?
He was in Houston.
Okay, okay.
You know, man, that's a major invasion of privacy.
Hell yeah.
And it should be illegal.
If it's not illegal, it should be illegal.
It should be a crime.
And I'll tell you straight up, bro,
if my neighbor tried to play me like that, the moment I see him, it's on sight.
Putting hands and feet on him.
What if it's a woman?
The moment I see her, it's on sight.
Could you stop, Willie D?
Knock it off.
I'm just saying it's on sight.
I ain't saying what's on sight.
I'm just saying it's on sight.
It's on sight.
Man, it's a violation.
It is a violation. You a violation do that that's not
right the man was helping a woman with her groceries that's right you know if a crime
was committed i can understand he releasing something like that but just be spying on your
neighbors like that and then just putting it out there first of all whoever did that i'm just going
straight up safe that was some ho stuff well they're groovy because if it wasn't little me a groupie. Because if it wasn't Lil Meech,
they wouldn't even care.
If it wasn't somebody,
if it wasn't a celebrity,
they wouldn't even care.
Correct.
It's the fact that
they caught a celebrity
on their ring camera
and they wanted to
send that out to the blogs
or whoever else
or post it on their own
social media.
That's got to be
some type of invasion
of privacy.
I don't know what happened, man.
I just know black men
don't cheat.
And, you know,
if the man said
he was helping somebody
with their groceries,
why couldn't that man be helping somebody with their groceries?
You stupid.
Now we got to move on to Carlos King.
Carlos King was interviewing NeNe Leakes.
And we're talking about her on Real Housewives of Atlanta and how she felt.
NeNe said that she could have been bigger than Kim Kardashian.
You think you should be bigger than Kim Kardashian?
Absolutely.
If not bigger, right there with her.
I feel like they pushed Kim and they didn't push me.
Kim came on after me and they opened up every door and every opportunity for her.
Even putting us together at times and making her, you know, much more bigger than me.
They pushed Kim to the front and pushed me to the back and i
don't think that was by chance i think that was the way they wanted it to be um i just think that
they made her more successful and she was able to get opportunities and open walk through doors
that they just did not want me to walk through how do we feel about conversations like
that because i just be feeling like what's for a person is for a person i understand that there's
machines that can push things but you can push some things sometime and that don't mean the
consumer is going to gravitate towards said thing there's something about the kardashians that
people gravitate towards and they've been gravitating towards it for years Nene had a great great running great moment too I just think you
know with with with Kim I just think it was the perfect storm with the way that everything folded
out you know Paris Hilton was her best friend at the time and Paris Hilton was in in front of
the lights and Kim was her side you know her whatever her best friend at the time then the
Ray J tape came out and at that time Ray J Ray J was growing in his fame and it was perfect.
Then she was married Chris Humphries and he was playing for an NBA team.
I know you ain't giving Chris Humphries no damn credit.
You're right.
Strike that one from the record.
What's the other baller's name?
Reggie Bush.
Reggie Bush at the time.
He was one of the biggest players in the league at that time.
Like, I just think it was a perfect storm for Kim.
Maybe it's scrimping numbers.
Maybe if it was a bunch of leaks.
Seriously.
Maybe if it was a bunch.
She had a whole team with her.
She had her sisters.
That's true, too.
You know what I mean?
She had her mom.
They had a whole squad.
Maybe it's scrimping numbers.
But I do think they did Nene dirty as far as a reality show.
I think they should have pushed him more.
Now, she also talks about one of our homies, Claudia Jordan, and talks about that term
which Nene made real famous up here, talking starless.
Claudia Jordan.
Starless.
Who won between you and Claudia in Puerto Rico?
I'm always the winner.
And so I obviously won.
But I will give Claudia this, although she said the most nastiest things about me and she's been
holding on to a grudge for a hundred thousand years I would have to give I'm gonna give her
this I've read many of girls honey and I've been on this show with many girls I would have to say
that she was probably my number one battle she was definitely right up there to battle with
yeah I don't think that has not been one other girl that could probably battle the way she did.
Because I took her through it.
And I feel like she took me through it.
And so I feel like we gave each other a run.
Yeah, I think they did.
And I will say one thing about our homie, Claudia Jordan.
She don't back down to nobody.
So, salute to Nene Leakes and Claudia Jordan.
You ain't got nothing to smoke. You ain't play nothing to smoke. That they talking and Claudia Jordan. We ain't got none of the smoke.
You ain't played none of the smoke
that they talking about?
No,
we ain't got time
unless you want to be late
for your donkey.
I don't even,
I never even heard the smoke.
I don't know.
All right,
well,
that is your rumor report.
But who you giving that donkey to?
Man,
four after the hour, man.
What is going on in the world?
We got white people
screaming racism
against other white people.
This is crazy this morning.
We going to talk about it.
Is that possible?
I don't know, but we're going to discuss it.
All right, we'll get to it next.
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I was donkey up the deep end.
Baby.
Damn, the hee-haw again it's time for donkey of the day i'm ain't trying to be donkey today no more they should be
embarrassed by what they already did i'm not making these people do these things called donkey
of the day and it really caught me off guard damn solomay who got the donkey of the day today
yeah it's donkey of the day for wednesday august's Donkey of the Day for Wednesday, August 2nd.
It goes to Michael Sack.
Michael Sack is a white police officer in St. Louis
who has filed a racial discrimination lawsuit against the city
and two black city officials claiming he was excluded from a promotion to become police chief.
Now, this is something you don't hear too often.
A white man screaming racism because he didn't get a position he wanted.
We've seen this a billion times from black people and others. OK.
And usually they are correct. Systemic racism is something that exists in every industry in America.
We know this. That's why we have laws to prevent this kind of discrimination from happening.
What is it? The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission under those under the laws enforced by the eeoc it is illegal to discriminate against
someone applicant or employee because of that person's race color religion sex including gender
identity sexual orientation pregnancy national origin age 40 or older disability or genetic
information i'm saying all that to say there are rules in place to keep people from being
discriminated against and to keep that discrimination from impacting their employment not saying saying it always works, but the laws are there. And when you feel
there is discrimination, you can sue. That's what's happening here with Michael Sack. He's
suing, like I said, for racial discrimination because he said he was excluded from a promotion
of police chief. But here's the problem, ladies and gentlemen, the position ended up going to
another white man.
Yeah, you heard me correctly.
Let's go to NBC5 on your side for the report, please.
Tonight, the city of St. Louis faces a lawsuit over its selection of a new police chief.
Lieutenant Colonel Michael Sack alleges he was not promoted because he's white.
Sack, who served as interim chief, was considered a frontrunner in the initial search.
But Mayor Tashara Jones started a second nationwide search seeking more diversity in candidates. The city ended up hiring Chief Robert Tracy, a white man. Sacks' lawsuit claims the mayor made that choice only after two black
finalists dropped out and to cover up for not giving the job to him. The mayor's office says
it cannot comment on pending litigation. What is going on in America?
You have a white cop suing the city and two black officials claiming he didn't get a job
because of racism. Yet another white cop got the job. You got Lizzo being sued for weight shaming.
What's next? Is Laverne Cox about to be accused of transphobia? I mean, this is ridiculous.
Michael Sachs says in the lawsuit, his race was a determining factor, motivating factor,
or played a part in the city's decision not to promote him.
I'm so confused here. I'm not white and there is no white people in the room.
Oh, well, I guess Nick and Nick is your white, right?
Nick. Yes. Spicy white. There's levels to whiteness. All right.
Is there I'm not talking about levels in regards to class. I'm talking about strictly race.
Is there levels to the white race? Is there white and off white?
Or is that just Virgil's clothing line? Because I don't understand this.
Is Michael Sack transracial? Does he identify as something other than white?
I don't understand. How is he seeking financial compensation for loss in wages and benefits for racial discrimination when another white man got the job now michael is saying that him and another white were the only two people who met the roles in qualifications and who had passed the written test but the mayor
tashara jones told them that she would not pick either one of them because she only had two white
male candidates to choose from and st louis is more diverse than white males that's what uh michael
saying in the lawsuit the lawsuit also says that the city wanted a black commissioner but had to settle for robert tracy the other white candidate because
there was no other black candidate to select from because one of the finalists who was black
withdrew his application and another decline the city's offer hey if that's true that's life but
it still doesn't negate the fact that a white man got the job i'm not the highest grade of weed in
the dispensary but if you're telling me that you didn't get a job because you're white,
but another white person did indeed get the job,
then I'm going to ask you to drink this ginger ale and these crackers
because you must have a fever and a stomachache.
All right, there is no way you could possibly be feeling well.
Here's the thing.
White people, stop.
You don't have to colonize everything, okay?
It's always the unpigmented population trying to take everything
the marginalized has and make it their own they trying to take hip-hop they tried taking tiger woods but
they gave him back and trust me he didn't want to leave and now they trying to take racial
discrimination from us no no no no the unmelanated gall of michael sack a white man losing his job
to another white man isn't racism it's called america okay racism you know uh is if the boss didn't hire him
because he don't want no chalky colored cracker working in this building but that wasn't the case
he didn't lose the job because he was white he lost the job because they found a better white
see if america was just about the best person winning then it would be all good okay if it was
about all things created equal and the most qualified person
succeeding and things like race and gender and sexuality didn't help or hinder it would be fine
but that fairness only exists when you're dealing with men who look like the founding fathers of
this country so sorry michael if you just weren't the white person no I mean right per... Wait. Maybe I do mean white.
Okay.
Sorry, Michael.
You just weren't the right white man for the job.
Please let Chelsea Handler give Michael Sack the biggest hee-haw.
Hee-haw!
Hee-haw!
That is way too much Dan Mayonnaise.
Come on, Michael.
Relax.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
All right.
Well, thank you for that donkey today, sir.
Mm-hmm.
When we come back, well, first BET, we'll see how them all.
Peace to BET.
You got to say peace to BET.
Peace BET.
I think I know what you're talking about, man.
What?
I think I know what's on your mind.
I saw y'all contemplating it.
Well, what's that?
After we talked about it.
What's that?
The Lil' Meat situation.
Play our Breakfast Club theme music, please.
Court music.
Breakfast Club court.
Now, Lil' Meat, you know, he cleared up something that happened the other day.
Now, he was out in Houston and a young lady needed some help packing her groceries and getting her groceries to the house.
So, Lil' Meech did what any brother out there would do, what our parents have taught us to do.
If you see somebody in distress.
You help them out.
Especially a woman in distress.
What do you do?
You help them out.
Now, Willie D, you are from the South.
You from Houston. You from Houston. Southern Now, Willie D., you are from the South. You from Houston.
You from Houston.
Southern hospitality, Willie D.
Don't mess with Texas.
Now, you see a woman out there that's struggling with her groceries.
Are you going to help her carry them groceries to the house?
Depends on how fine she is.
Oh, Lord, Willie.
Willie.
800-585-1051.
That's not what I was talking about Little Meat talks about what happened
Good old Southern Hospitality
Am I can't help my cousin bring the bags in the house?
Oh, and that's his cousin?
Went to the grocery store, man
Man, why are y'all bugging out on the internet, man?
This man was helping his cousin
Now check this out
Bring her groceries into her apartment
i looked at the videotape the video he was only there for like 10 minutes 17 17 minutes there you
go i tried to shave off so so a good friend of mine sent me this text message okay and it's
important that's why it's important to have women input on things like this. Yeah. She said, what if the chick
told the neighbor
to hit the ring camera?
To release the ring camera.
That's right.
That's right.
Hey, I got Little Meech
helping me with my groceries.
Little Meech was helping me
with my groceries.
Hit the ring camera.
Yeah.
You right.
For a come up.
Boy, I tell you.
Let's talk about it.
I tell you, man.
I think we just solved the case.
Is Lil' Meech wrong?
He was just trying to do his
suddenly hospitality duties.
I think your homegirl right, Willie.
Yeah.
Your homegirl too.
Yeah.
Tesslyn.
Oh.
Tesslyn the beast with it, man.
Okay, I didn't even think about that.
So, okay, we figured it out.
Lil' Meech was just helping this woman
with her groceries,
being a good Samaritan.
And somebody hit the, she called her neighbor to hit the ring camera just so she can have a little come up.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Wow, do y'all believe Lil' Meech?
That is the question.
Lil' Meech was trying to do the right thing out there.
Whoa.
You know, trying to put out a little Southern hospitality to help a young lady.
You guys have been saying men are not helping people, not opening doors, not carrying the groceries.
So this brother helped him carry the groceries and y'all got him under the bus.
Let's talk about it when we come back. And I heard there wasn't no elevator in that building.
Heard it was six flights of stairs that man had to climb up.
God bless Lil' Meech.
800-585-1051.
Let's discuss this.
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It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
We got our guest host, Willie D, joining us.
Now, if you're
just joining us we're talking little meech all right play the uh breakfast club court theme
please now little meech was charged with uh we'll say cheating allegedly now black men don't cheat
little meech uh this video of him uh helping a young lady who looked like she was distressed
it looked like she just went grocery shopping and uh allegedly her building didn't have an elevator so meech was just helping her
i heard that she didn't have no elevator there were seven flights of stairs little
me being a good samaritan little me decided to help this young lady with her groceries that's
right her neighbor caught her caught caught uh caught them on the ring camera correct now
willie d bought up a fantastic point.
What?
What did you say your homegirl said, Willie D?
What if the girl, I mean, the girl employed the neighbor to record herself
and then, you know, she had an opportunity to release it to the public.
I think that's clearly what happened.
And blew her name up.
I think that's clearly what happened.
She saw Little Meech,
took advantage of
Little Meech's kindness,
him being a great Samaritan.
Little Meech helped her
with the groceries.
She told her neighbor
to hit the ring camera,
sent it out to all the blogs.
Little Meech is innocent.
But not only that,
let's think about it.
Little Meech was there
for 17 minutes, right?
17 minutes.
How many?
17.
17 minutes.
Now, he went in,
went out.
Now, on his way out,
we seen the girl again
on the way out.
She didn't look disheveled at all.
She wasn't disheveled.
She wasn't wearing a t-shirt.
That's right.
She was wearing the same hat.
Her hair was good.
That's right.
That's right.
Okay, okay.
You know, just devil's advocate.
It's possible.
Very possible.
For him to walk into that room, walk into that house, and he get behind her.
Black men don't cheat.
That didn't happen.
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. That didn't happen. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
That didn't happen.
I ain't saying it happened.
No, no, no.
Not necessarily.
I mean, like,
I mean,
well, I am the cleanup man,
so not necessarily.
I mean,
it just depends on who it is.
Right, right, right.
It depends on who she doing it with.
Right.
You know,
I'm not saying that he did something.
Black men don't cheat.
I'm not saying that these type of things,
that is a scenario
where something like this could happen.
Now, Taylor, our producer, she was in the other room,
but she can hear us.
Right.
And all I heard over the microphone was, I hate y'all.
And I don't understand where that came from.
So Taylor's here because, you know,
you got three grown men in here talking about a situation
that clearly needs a woman's perspective.
Taylor, why did you say you hate us?
Because clearly, I didn't even think about it, what you said. Like, he was helping with some groceries. That's how a woman's perspective. Taylor, why did you say you hate us? Because clearly, I didn't even think about it what you said.
Like, he was helping with some groceries.
I saw some groceries too.
Good Samaritan.
Yeah.
But Taylor, if you look at the young lady's hands, it looked like they were putting things
in the refrigerator.
Like, you know when you get groceries?
What?
I don't know.
Taylor, if you saw him helping with groceries, what's the problem?
I didn't see no bags of groceries.
That's what I'm saying.
You talking about groceries? Oh, you talking about booty? Yeah.
He wasn't done. Come on, stop. Get your mind off the
gutter, Taylor. It only takes 17 minutes.
That's how long it was, right?
What are you accusing this man? Are you saying
this man is guilty? I'm saying I ride with
someone, Walker. That's what I'm saying.
Taylor's been riding on us, man,
you know, for the last 48 hours.
I think Taylor needs
counseling.
Let's go to the phone line.
Carry on.
Yes.
Good morning.
Yes, good morning.
Did you see that video of Lil Meech being a great guy?
Being a good Samaritan.
A great Samaritan helping that young lady with her groceries?
And do you stop being guilty?
Guilty of what?
Being a good Samaritan? I agree. No, you stop telling it? He guilty. Guilty of what? Being a good Samaritan?
I agree.
No, you stop.
Salome, that man guilty for talking himself to the goodies.
That's what he was talking.
Black men don't cheat.
Yes, they do.
Look in that man's eyes.
You can see the devil coming out of his eyes.
I saw a man trying to enjoy a blunt, but he just finished walking up 17 flights.
He was tired.
He just walked up. No, he was helping himself to the booty.
He had the right to get a fat ass.
You know he guilty.
He guilty as doo-doo.
Thank you. You can't prove none of this.
Sarah. Yes?
Hey, good morning. You seen that video of Little Meech
being a great Samaritan helping somebody?
I mean, just being a good Samaritan.
First of all,
all this crap that's going down with me,
with Little Meech, even Little Alert Meech, is ridiculous.
How you going to come across like that?
What did he do?
What did he do?
All he did was help a young lady in her groceries.
First of all, everybody keeps talking about what groceries.
I don't see anything that nairn groceries.
The only thing I saw was
that bag of
trash that he
should have
took out
before coming
in that house
the only
groceries I saw
him doing
was following
that ass
inside the house
the video cut
off right before
he took the
trash out
what happened
was he had
already went up
17 flights of
stairs
he took the
trash out
and when he
was walking
back out
the girl was
like hey
you should
come get
some Gatorade
before you
make that
trek
and that's where he walking back out, the girl was like, hey, you should come get some Gatorade before you make that trek down to 17 flights of stairs again.
And that's where he went back in the hospital.
That's right. Yep.
The only bag that I saw he had was in that liquor bag.
It was probably filled with gas, maybe some candy bars, some condoms.
Wow.
He had in his hand or something he had in his hand.
Wow.
That's the only thing.
No, sir.
The only groceries I was going in that house was that ass he was following.
Sarah, as a kid.
You're all internet detectives or something else.
You never seen Sarah, your dad, help a lady with bags at the grocery store before?
Who?
My father?
No, no.
The only person that he would help anything would be my mother.
My mother would have been all over that ass.
All right, how we know that wasn't an old lady, too?
That could have been an old lady.
We couldn't really tell.
How we know that wasn't just a young-looking old lady?
She might have been 67 years old, for all we know.
And Houston, they age better, right, Willie?
Absolutely.
She looked like she had on a full sheen outfit.
I don't know what 70-year-old or 50-year-old wears sheen or fashion over.
Patti LaBelle.
I'm sorry.
Patti LaBelle, you're stopping me.
800-585-1051.
We talked to Little Meech this morning.
Now, there was a video of Little Meech going viral yesterday,
and people are saying he cheated, he cheated, he cheated.
But the brother said, I was just helping out with the groceries.
And from the video, it looks like he was helping with the groceries.
That's right.
I mean, Charlamagne said allegedly there was no elevator,
so they had to walk up six, seven flights.
I heard it was 17, actually.
17 flights.
I said six and seven, but I heard it was actually 16 or 17.
So the fact that the brother
helped put all the groceries away,
got a little Gatorade,
and then left.
And I want to explain something real quick
because I know people are saying,
what damn apartment complex
has 17 floors with no elevator?
So I just want to say that
perhaps the elevator was broken.
It was broken.
Yeah, it was broken.
And there is such a thing as innocent until proven guilty.
So we reserve the right to give Little Meech the benefit of doubt.
Brother, more power to you.
More power.
Stay strong, brother.
Stay strong, you good Samaritan.
Stay strong, brother.
Black man don't cheat.
There you go.
800-585-1051.
We'll take some more calls when we come back.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about Little Meech.
There was a video that went viral yesterday of him at somebody's house, and he responded
with this.
So we're asking 800-585-1051.
Little Meech seems like he was being
a good samaritan i mean people are saying all the time that you know they don't see kids and
people helping old women and people at grocery stores anymore they don't see people from the
south man little me understand sovereign hospitality little me understand being a good samaritan
black men don't cheat bmf black men faithful like little meat wasn't doing nothing
but what he was supposed to be doing was just helping that young lady uh old lady because I
think she was older but she just looked young I think she was 67 actually he was just helping
her with her groceries hello who's this Bianca hey Bianca good morning good morning you seen
that video little meat helping that uh young lady with her groceries yeah uh-huh let's start with it listen and i'm
from detroit so i know a lie when i know you don't that's that's why he's lying why he lying
tell me why he lying okay so he was carrying groceries yeah he was carrying groceries
in what in what bag i couldn't really see because the ring camera was high and his hands was down
so i couldn't really see what he had in his hands.
Nothing, no bag.
Mm-mm.
Listen, and I love,
I love the fact that y'all want to take up
for a black man,
but knock it off,
he got caught.
Listen.
Listen, I know he got
my mother in the car.
I'm talking about
that girl booed me.
Listen, y'all worrying
about the wrong thing,
which y'all should be
worrying about
is the invasion of privacy
that happened with that woman
who recorded that ring camera.
Is that?
That's the actual crime.
Me can't commit no crime.
And what if it was an old lady?
Would they be still having this type of energy?
She was old Willie?
No, I'm talking about old, old lady, like 90.
I think she's about 67.
Kasha!
Yeah?
You see that video of Lumi trying to be a great Samaritan
helping that lady with her groceries?
I did see that.
Nonsense. Why is that nonsense? So you don Samaritan helping that lady with her groceries? I did see that. Nonsense.
Why is that nonsense? So you don't think people should help women with their groceries?
Man, come on. Now you go out.
Now you reach them because he was not
helping nobody with no groceries. Where was
the bag? What kind of bag did he sell, man?
You know, I'm going to tell you something.
We couldn't see the bag because he had his hands down
and the camera was cut
off so you could only see him from the waist up. He's like a black man making his shoes. I couldn't see what he because he had his hands down and the camera was cut off so you could only see him from the waist up.
So I couldn't see.
Like a black man making his shoes.
I couldn't see what he had in his hands.
And I can tell you how I know he had something in his hands because he had a blunt in his
mouth and he never reached for that blunt.
Couldn't reach for that blunt because he had bags in his hand, man.
Yeah, he had a whole box in his arm.
It looked like he was carrying a box of milk or something.
And he was only in there for 17 minutes.
So all in the face,
he wouldn't ever do
anything really.
But helping with
some groceries,
I didn't see no
groceries either.
Let's just keep it real.
That black man was cheating.
No, he was not
because black men
don't cheat.
What is up with y'all?
I don't know.
Hello, who's this?
Hey, my name is Keisha.
Hey, Keisha.
Good morning.
We're talking about
the video Lil' Meech
being a Great Samaritan
helping this young woman
with her groceries.
I'm sure that there's been times when you needed help for groceries and didn't have help.
And he could have been there to help you as well.
Oh, no.
I have a husband, but I've experienced something similar.
I feel like it's very inappropriate.
If it's just a cousin, why can't someone meet her?
Well, first of all, you're from the 843.
I can hear it in your voice.
What do you mean?
You say you experienced something similar.
What happened? Well, my husband,. You say you experienced something similar. What happened?
Well, my husband, he is friends with the young ladies.
I've met them, but I'm not too comfortable with their friendship.
But he still hasn't allowed me to meet the girl.
He still hasn't what with the girl?
I still have not met the young lady.
Well, we already know that your husband is innocent because he's from the low country.
And black men definitely don't cheat from the low country.
OK, that's why we do not cheat.
He has to do. I think it's inappropriate. And I think the girl, she was trying to catch him.
So I do agree that someone should meet the cousin. You know what I'm saying?
But you can't meet all your cousins. She in Houston. That's his cousin from Houston.
Hello. Who's this? It's your boy, Yagi.
Yagi, good morning man
You see little Misha's trying to be a great Samaritan
I'm sure that might have happened with you before
You just trying to be nice, right?
Yeah man, 17 minutes you had to be taking groceries in there
Because you know, if you were doing anything
You'd be between 5 and 10 minutes
17 minutes you would have to put the groceries up
Now hold on now, see I don't like that
Because see what somebody's going to do is the math
So they're going to say between five and ten minutes.
That means it took you about three minutes to get undressed,
five to ten minutes to hand to your business,
then three minutes to get dressed again.
That's about 17 minutes, bro.
I don't like that math.
I don't like that math.
Ten minutes.
Ten minutes.
You got to be in and out of there, man.
You can put groceries up.
I can't even believe we're having this conversation.
Black men don't cheat.
You're right.
That man was definitely helping putting the groceries up.
Hello, who's this?
Hey, it's Alla.
Hey, Alla.
You seen that video of Lil' Meech, man, just trying to help that woman with her groceries, man?
It's such a great Samaritan.
Don't you agree?
That's what he was doing?
Yes.
Nah, he wrong.
Wrong for what?
Do y'all know what the definition of hospitality is?
The friendly and generous reception and entertainment of guest visitors are strangest.
Little Meech is renowned for his hospitality, and now y'all judging that man for it.
I don't like this.
Guilty and embarrassing.
I don't like how they doing Little Meech like that.
I think it's a smear campaign against Little Meech.
First, they were saying that he ain't shower.
Then they said something else before.
Now they saying this.
The brother just trying to do good out here.
And y'all messing with him. And I don't like
the cast of
Power and the other shows clowning
little Meech for this. Because my
brothers, this could be any of us at any given
moment. You see this man clearly
got set up. This man was being a good Samaritan.
Walked up 17 flights
of stairs. You couldn't see the bags
in his hand because the ring camera was cut off
from the waist down.
Clearly, whoever he was with
called somebody and said,
hey, record,
Lil' Meech helping me with my groceries.
This man was set up.
That could be any of y'all at any given time.
I don't think y'all should be making jokes about this.
They really trying to stop the Black Men Don't Cheat movement.
In closing, what you think, Willie D?
I think that the man is innocent
to prove guilty.
We should all reserve
judgment
unless we see
something different.
Black men don't cheat.
That's right.
Black men
don't cheat.
They don't even understand
that when you say
black men don't cheat.
Black men
don't cheat.
Men.
Put that in quotes.
And black men
don't cheat. Okay. How about you? Alright in quote and black men don't cheat okay how about
you all right when we come back we got to talk lebron james uh in his school we'll discuss when
we come back at the breakfast club so y'all this is quest love and i'm here to tell you about a new
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Throw my hat, sit.
Throw my, throw my hat, sit. Call out a name, or you gossiping, or you chatty-patty. I am gossiping. Rumor has it.
Call out a name or you gossiping
or you chatty.
This is the rumor report.
I mean, I guess we on the breakfast club. This is where the tea spills,
right?
All right. Well, we're going to start off with Javante Davis.
Now, yesterday, Javante Davis was talking.
He was talking about if he would stop
Terrence Crawford, what would happen?
I got a question for you, Tank.
At 147, how does a fight with you and Terrence Crawford look?
147?
I tapped that Chan.
You know he's going to sleep.
I already know.
I already know he is.
You ain't got no chance.
I already know he is.
You said no chance.
Hey, I got round five.
S*** out round six.
We'll do what's up.
I'm going to put my money in round six. What do you think uh gervonta tank at 147 i mean tanking um crawford crawford
at 147 oh i'll take bud in that i love i like tank a lot though why why yeah man based off
what i saw saturday night that's why. Okay? What you talking about why?
Like, Terrence Crawford unlocked the level that, you know,
none of us have seen.
We all know Terrence Crawford is a beast.
We know that.
With 40 and 0, how many knockouts?
Like 32 or something like that.
Like, we know he's a beast.
But on Saturday night, we saw him unlock another level.
So he has another level.
And the level I saw Saturday,
I don't see nobody beating Terrence Crawford at 147.
Willie D, what you think?
I concur.
Yeah, what Terrence Crawford did, man,
it was magical.
And it was reminiscent of the golden era of boxing.
You had the Hearns and the Sugar Ray Lenners
and the Haglers
and the Roberto Durans
and the Wilford Benitez.
Man, that was like,
hey man,
that was on that type of level.
That's right.
Is that a fight y'all would want to see?
We haven't seen that in a while.
Is that a fight y'all would want to see?
Oh, I would absolutely like to see that fight.
Tank Tank and Bud would be great at 147.
But like I said,
after what I saw Saturday night, I don't see nobody beating Terrence Crawford at 147. If he like to see that fight. Tank Tank and Bud would be great at 147. But like I said, after what I saw Saturday night,
I don't see nobody beating Terrence Crawford at 147.
If he can go to that level in a fight, no.
Now let's talk about LeBron James.
His I Promise School, they're saying that eighth graders failed to pass the state math test.
It was reportedly last year that, of course, the school is in Akron, Ohio,
hadn't passed the math portion of their state proficiency exam in three years.
Yikes. Now, Stephanie Davis, the new principal, said this.
One of the things I'm most excited about coming into the I Promise School is the optimism and energy around getting our students to a level of achievement we know they're capable of.
At this recent board meeting, our preliminary OST data was shared, but it's important to note that proficiency is based on master and grade level standards our students have not yet met
the grade level mastery mark but they are demonstrating growth based on i-ready scores
of our incoming eighth graders 32 met their annual typical growth and reading while 11
met their stretch goal for the year now i will say this uh i don't think it's just a
i promise school thing
i think it's a education thing you also got to think of the last three years a lot of these kids
haven't been in school you know most of it because of covet because of the pandemic a lot of these
kids were being taught over computers and coming back has made it very difficult if you have uh
kids you know how difficult it's been because you know we as when i say we i mean parents had to be
the teachers and for a lot of us it was difficult it was it was it was difficult for me to help my
kids with their homework i'm sure it was difficult for you charlamagne uh so so what are your thoughts
on this yeah it's great first of all that lebron james can uh you know make financial contributions
like that to our communities and you know the schools now need to double down on education.
Having said that, I find it very hard to believe
not one single kid in the eighth grade
passed the state math exam.
I don't care where you go,
there's always going to be one kid
that just is an overachiever.
That's always going to be that. So I find it hard to believe in it, in it, in it, in experimental schools like I promise.
The kids are made to actually fail in many of these type of schools.
They're actually made to fail so that they can get state and federal funding.
If the kids don't fail, then the money don't trickle down to the school districts and they
can't create jobs.
That's a big deal.
And most people don't want to have that discussion.
But that's a big deal. And most people don't want to have that discussion. But that's a real thing. I'm not saying that's exactly what's happening there.
But it happens more than you can imagine.
Yeah, I'm not an educator. I would have to bring in an educator to have this conversation.
But it sounds to me like somebody clearly wasn't focused on academics.
Right. And I'm also wondering how many students are actually in the school.
You know, I mean, because we can say all all the eighth graders but how many eighth graders students were there
you know i mean because this is a small school it's not a huge school what you would think of
and i think i'm reading now one one report says you know in the eighth grade i'm trying to see
but i think in the full school is 500 students and that's from three to seven i think or three
to nine i'm not sure but uh i'm just curious to how many students are actually in that.
I don't know. But either way, if all your eighth grade students fail in math, somebody is not focused on academics.
So to me, that that that lies squarely at the feet of the educators.
And this is over three years. This is over three years.
But let's make sure that we also include the parents because everything starts at home and no
matter what the school is doing,
the parents have the most access and authority over the children.
And if the parents are not on board,
it is extremely difficult.
Having said that it is anytime you can have an adult that could step in and help out kids and kids, there's a place that kids can go to.
Like I promise and have there's a safe space that they can go to and and have these experiences and be able to learn.
You're in a place where people really care about you.
That's important because as we know, like one adult could change the trajectory of a child's life.
That happened for me with my homeroom teacher, Miss Oliver, Miss Emmett Oliver.
I mean, she literally saved my life.
And this could happen when you get good educators.
And I do believe that there are some good educators there, but you're going against the system all right well that is your rumor report i gotta remind you guys tonight at
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I'm doing my last car show of the year.
I'm doing a two-day show in Jersey.
It's August 26th, August 27th.
It's actually the first time in three years that I'm back in the tri-state.
Usually it was Atlantic City, which is a two-hour drive, or it's been in Memphis and Houston,
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But this year, we're actually back in the city.
I'm so excited.
So we got to do a two-day show.
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channels. How you feeling man?
Thank you for hanging with us for the last two days brother.
Absolutely man. I appreciate the
invitation. It's been fun.
It's been fun. You going back to
Houston tonight Willie? What you got going on this week?
I'll go back to Houston tomorrow.
Okay. Okay. Let me ask you Willie.
Since you said that you wouldn't give
women flowers on the first date. Have women been hitting you upset about it no they want an understanding
they called and they're asking for clarity of clarity yeah that's where it starts yeah
yeah you know hey man you know i and i want to be clear you I absolutely love the women. I mean, I really do respect them.
But I do believe that there is a such thing as being too nice too soon.
And that's why I have my reservations and trepidation about what dude did with those flowers.
That's like, uh-uh, bro.
You don't do all of that on the first date now
some women you you're cool you know you're gonna be cool with that but then there's gonna be a
certain segment of women that are not and i'm not willing to take that type of chance when when i
first meet a woman right the last thing you want to do is spook a woman just like you can spook a
woman with your conversation when you first meet her you can spook her with your acts right of giving of giving you know so yeah okay i'm not with that all right well when we come back we got
a positive notice to breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy
we are the breakfast club charlamagne you got some positivity for the people i do man uh and i wish
some of y'all fools would understand what i'm about to say but you don't and won't but i'm gonna tell
you anyway because maybe one day you will learn.
But understand that nothing that's for you will require you to act out of character to get it.
Absolutely nothing.
If you got to act out of character to get something, it ain't worth it.
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