The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Tyler Perry Sued for $260M Over Assault Allegations, Angela Simmons & Yo Gotti Split, Pusha T Disses Travis Scott + Jonesy Interview

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club,Jonesy Opens Up About Reconnecting With DJ Envy, Radio History, Wendy Williams, Tina Knowles. Plus, we open the phone lines for listeners to give their own Donkey of the Da...y. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:54 It's Wednesday's hump days middle of the week. How y'all feeling? How you feeling Jess? I feel good. Yo, it is nasty outside It's disgusting like the last seven days has been yes. I'm like damn yo Yeah, my kids have been highly upset for like last seven days in the tri-state area, which is New York, Connecticut and Jersey Parts of Delaware. It's been nothing but nasty rains. We can't even enjoy the outside. We can't even enjoy, I think this Friday is summer. We can't even enjoy any of that. Oh yeah, this Friday is summer. It's the start of summer, that's right. Damn bro.
Starting point is 00:03:16 So it's been pretty nasty out. But, oh good. Good morning. Hey, Lauren here. What's up Lauren? Hey. You got your quarter tire on today? Yes. Oh, that's right. I thought you wasn't going to court today.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I am going to go late though. Oh, Narnia. What's up, Narn? Hey. You got your quarter tire on today? Yes. Oh, that's right. I thought you wasn't going to court today. I am gonna go late, though. Oh, okay, okay. All right, cool. Well, Mrs. Jones will be joining us this morning. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Mrs. Jones, if you don't know who Mrs. Jones is, AKA Jonesy, she is an artist. She sang on Azeez's record, "'I Wanna Be Sugar Hill.'" Remember that record? I didn't know that was her. Yeah, that's Jonese singing on that record. Okay wow.
Starting point is 00:03:46 She has her own joint and she's a raising personality of course she does morning radio she's on Pix 11 and she actually got me my start on morning radio taught me how to do morning radio probably about 18, 19, 20 years ago. She I guess she's seen something with me at the time. Yeah. Seen something in me I should say at the time and said decided like let me give this kid a chance. And it grew to what it was.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So we're gonna be kicking in with Jonesy in a little bit. And let's get this show cracking. Why you looking like that? I'm just getting my life together. I ran in here trying to not be too late. You know, if you leave like five minutes early, you ain't gotta run in. This morning was a morning
Starting point is 00:04:18 because I couldn't figure out my shirt because I was trying to do something in between court and like regular. Right, right. You seem like the type of person that picks your clothes out the night before and lays it on the bed so when you get up you can just get back in. That seems like you.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah, but I don't try it on so then when I tried it on this morning I'm like, I'm not really feeling this for court. It would be good for the show but I'm not feeling it for court so then I have to change the full fit. Gotcha, gotcha. Alright, well let's get the show cracking. We got Morgan. She'll be giving us front page news so don't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:04:41 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the go anywhere it's the Breakfast Club good morning. Morning everybody it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club let's get in some front page news. Some quick sports now game six of the NBA Finals is tomorrow at 830 p.m. Eastern Time. Now the Stanley Cup is going on right now y'all know anything about the Stanley Cup? Golf?
Starting point is 00:05:00 No my goodness do you? You talking about the cup the actual Stanley Cup right? No the Stanley Cup is so much. Hockey! Hockey! Golf no my goodness deal Daddy's I'm about the the cup the actual my goodness no Stanley hockey It was the Panthers and the Oilers last night the pair was one five to one no no no all right figure out about it even I don't know exactly I know it's hockey all right. We're here to Stanley Cup shout out They won the Stanley Club last night Champions five one oh, that's what's up. Congratulations That's nice. That's new team cuz you know, we got a hockey team. I don't think that's new team. All right
Starting point is 00:05:37 Let's get it to a first off our page according to multiple reports The White House is considering an offensive strike against Iran. The report comes after President Trump said he wanted an unconstitutional surrender from Iran. There's growing speculation whether the US will enter the conflict offensively on behalf of Israel and take out Iran's remaining underground nuclear facilities. Israel has dealt a significant blow to Iran's nuclear program, but lacks the technology to reach sites buried beneath layers of mountain. Meanwhile, shortly after Trump got back to the White House yesterday following his early exit of the G7 summit in Canada, he spoke about the conflict aboard Air Force One.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Let's take a listen. The Iran cannot have any nuclear weapons. Very simple. Not to go too deep into it. They just can't have a nuclear weapon. We'll come down so hard if they do anything to our people Will come down so hard that that loves her off so beautifully now they I think they I think they know that to touch our troops
Starting point is 00:06:39 So they already been protecting Israel right by shooting down missiles and things that's been coming to Israel But now they're talking about actually attacking Iran to make sure that they you know hit all the other things. Okay. Yes to make sure they yeah exactly to your point what they consider eliminate the threat the nuclear threat. They say they call it a proactive attack to make sure that it doesn't come back and burn us or kick us in the ass later on.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah and they're also saying that it's you know, it's it's not just about us or about Israel But it's about you know, the bigger picture of the world and saving the world You know saving the overall world in that that you know Iran cannot have they have they are standing ten toes down on that stance that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon now there have been recent reports at least 600 people killed in Iran and At least 34 in Israel and most recent strikes. And to your point yesterday, NBS, some of those are civilians as well. Some of those are also military.
Starting point is 00:07:33 As a result of this, the U.S. is of course warning Americans not to travel to the Middle East. State Department spokesperson Tammy Bruce announced the Middle East Task Force. And let's take a listen to what they're supposed to do. Not to travel to Israel or Iraq, and not to travel to Iran under any circumstances. The Department of State has established the Middle East Task Force to help coordinate support for US citizens, our US diplomatic missions, and personnel and diplomatic engagement. So Tammy Bruce says the Israel-Iran conflict is rapidly evolving.
Starting point is 00:08:11 She called it a rapidly evolving situation. Bruce also said the State Department has set up that task force. She again reiterated President Trump's stance again and again that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. The US Embassy in Jerusalem is also closing. The State Department says the post will close on today through Friday due to the current security situation involving Israel's conflict with Iran.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Now, meanwhile, President Trump's national security meeting concerning the next steps of the conflict wrapped up yesterday. And he, again, as I said, is reportedly considering an offensive strike against Iran. So at this point, it's a matter of galvanizing our troops, getting people out of the way, those people who are in the area, US citizens out of the way. And we will see what takes place as a result of President Trump's I don't know if you would call it a threat, but he definitely is calling for Iran to have a unconditional surrender of their nuclear program.
Starting point is 00:09:10 So I will keep you posted as to what happens with that on the other side at the seven o'clock hour as we're running out of time now. We'll discuss what members of Congress, how they feel about this. There is a bipartisan effort to stop the president's efforts to you know on that offensive strike So we'll get into that and of course We'll have some updates on what's happening with ice on the home front now Do we know for a fact if they have nukes or is this a guessing game? This right now it does appear that they said that they were working on a nuclear weapon
Starting point is 00:09:41 So that has whether or not it has been confirmed that remains to be seen. And I wonder why somebody would not want to protect that but I guess we'll find out next hour. Okay we'll see you in a little bit. Everybody else get it off your chest 800-585-1051 if you need to vent phone lines or wide open again 800-585-1051 get it off your chest it's the Breakfast Club good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. I'm telling, I'm telling. Hey, what you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:10:10 I'm telling. I'm calling, I'm calling you. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Moog Moog.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Moog Moog, what's up, Moog Moog? Moog Moog. What's good? Where you calling from? And I'm calling from Hampton. Hampton, Virginia? Hampton, Georgia. Oh, Hampton, Georgia. What's up? Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Man, I just want to talk about my 17 year old twin boys. I'm sick of it. You hear me? Sick of it. I can't wait till this time next year. You hear me? Damn. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:10:40 Getting on my nerves. God damn nerves. Sicko, you hear me? Sicko. I can't wait till this time next year, you hear me? What'd he do? Getting on my last goddamn nerves. Jesus. What's next year gonna be? Always beg. Every time I turn around, they beg me, beg me, beg me, beg me. They gonna beg next year too.
Starting point is 00:10:57 You think cause they 18, they just gonna leave? They gonna beg next year too. And I know that, but guess what? I love them, but I'm sick of them. What's their names? Country. Zamaan Zamaan, man. They're my babies so I love them.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yeah, but you love them. See that? I bet you every time they beg you give it to them. Yup. I do. That's me. I'm the problem. I'm the problem.
Starting point is 00:11:20 As long as you know. Well, you have a good one, mama. Be safe out there on the roads. You too. You too. Thank you. All righty roads Everybody they come hello. Who's this? I'm doing an internship in Atlanta right now, and I keep backing up speed as I teach us, bro Like they keep getting I gotta pay like $800 and tickets Damn no, I don't be late to my internship. I was driving down to Florida like last weekend.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I was going like a 1970 Bose 3 for speeding. And the police caught me. Envy, why are you talking to him like that? You know him. Why don't you slow your dumbass down? Ay yo! Because I'm thinking, how old is this kid? How old are you?
Starting point is 00:12:00 How old are you, yo? I just turned 21 three weeks ago. And I bet he's still under his parents' charge. And you know what? You still under your parents' charge? How old are you? I just turned 21 3 weeks ago. And I bet he's still under his parents insurance. And you know what? You said that's so personal. See he's still under his parents insurance. And we kicked him today.
Starting point is 00:12:12 We got a bunch of citations, $800, insurance gonna go up, and he's just gonna say, sorry mom, sorry dad. No, slow your dumb ass down. See, dad is in dad mode, bro. Dad mode instantly once he hears you. You're gonna get in an accident, you're gonna kill somebody, and you're gonna raise my insurance. Crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:30 But chill, like, I'm driving the same way I do in Florida. Like, Georgie just cares way too much about trust clubs. Bro, why don't you just leave 30 minutes earlier? 20 minutes earlier. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Mom, Dad, I'm sorry. He's really concerned too.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yo, let me find out. Yo, Andy made him apologize. Did you hear him? He sounds so concerned. He said, dang. Yo, let me ask you, who paid the car though? Yeah, I'm gonna lie mom dad. I'm sorry Let me ask you who paid a car note Me you're lying Car no, I'm fine. It's not too much I like I got a I got a picture but the car. No, it was only like three three hundred forty six And who paid the car insurance? Okay, true true true. See true true true
Starting point is 00:13:04 See I would take you on my insurance immediately immediately take your insurance and we got six kids No, you ain't learn your lesson you was gonna call up here complaining talking about the cops pulling you over you speeding Real young baby is the's the law. It's the crime Jesus yeah Yeah, I'm getting all the people taking too much seriously. Oh my goodness Well slow your ass down for your somebody hurt yourself. All right, be safe out there. Appreciate it. Have a good one Bye man. You too. You know how much the insurance go up now? I know He didn't just say one ticket he said he got a couple. Yo, you kicked into dad mode straight up. Cause that's cause, shoot, he's 21 years old,
Starting point is 00:13:49 he's a male, so boys 21 until like 25, insurance goes through the roof. But how did you know? It's like you just knew he was a young age. Cause he sound like Logan. He sound like Logan. Now if his parents are listening, what I would do is I put a track on the car so you can see exactly how fast the Kid is going at all times and if it goes over a certain speed it gives you a text and you could yell at him immediately I haven't had that problem. I had no idea that that even existed. Yes, yes You got a young man that's about to drive You got six kids, that's right. No, that's right. Get it off your chest
Starting point is 00:14:24 Sorry to interrupt. What? Four, you do that four times right now because your other two are not driving yet. They're not only two, Madison and Logan. Oh, dang, I got stressed out for you. That's a lot of money. Oh yes, and if you speed, it shoots up,
Starting point is 00:14:36 your insurance could double. You got a savings fund just for your kids' cars and insurances? Yes. Yo, that's a lot of thank yous. In college! And they all on your policy? Yes! Damn! That's crazy! All of them. And none of them got no tickets not going what? I love it. And they all on your Netflix account? All of them. And my Amazon. She rethinking having a bunch of keys. That's crazy. I just thought about it like that. MV is birth control for you.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And not only that, Uber Eats too! Every time they order Uber Eats, it goes on mine. Yes. So when they don't tip the Uber Eats person, and they curse me out, they curse me out. But get it off your chest, 800-585-1051. You can get it on your chest. It's a breakfast club morning. He literally just got it off.
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Starting point is 00:15:31 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Oh my God, my name is Tiana. I listen to The Breakfast Club every morning. Good morning, Lauren. Good morning, Jess. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I won. Oh, I'm so excited. I told my daughter I was going to call. My daughter. every morning. Good morning Lauren, good morning Jess. Good morning. I won, oh, I'm so excited. I told my daughter I was gonna call. My daughter is graduating from high school today. She got a full ride to LSU academically. Yay.
Starting point is 00:15:56 She graduated from a local college down here with her. So she is a degree. And she is graduating today with her high school diploma. I love it. Congratulations. I know you're a proud mommy. Yes. high school diploma. I love it. Congratulations. I know you're a proud mommy. Yes. Yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:16:09 That's right. I listen to y'all every morning. Y'all start my day, keep doing what y'all doing. Thank you. No problem. I have a good one. Congratulations to them. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:16:17 You too. Hello, who's this? This is Jordan from Atlanta, man. Jordan from the A. What's up? Get it off your chest. Man, I really want the callers. The God dang when they Jordan from Atlanta, man. Jordan from the A. What's up? Get it off your chest. Man, I really want the callers, the god damn when they call up
Starting point is 00:16:28 here, man, call up there. I mean, keep that shit to a minimum, man. Man, folks be calling up there, they want to tell you about their whole life story. Like the lady with the water at work that happened a couple of weeks ago, then the cupcake guy. I'm so happy for the cupcake guy, his business and everything going up and getting the recognition, but man,
Starting point is 00:16:46 I'm just trying to call up there since Biggie and Pac got shot, man. I'm just gonna give my shout out and say that, man. Good morning to y'all, y'all have a blessed day, and I'm out. Good morning. We ain't got no, we ain't been on radio since Biggie and Pac got shot.
Starting point is 00:16:58 You and Sean LeMay had been on radio since then. I haven't. No, oh, then I thought y'all was on radio when that happened. No, I was in school. What kind of, like what, high school? College. I School like what high school college. Oh, okay. Why are you a copy that long though? Yeah, the same number this whole time Hello, who's up, baby boy? Morning. I'm ballin' and chillin', man. I've been callin' the last two days. I've been trying to politics with Jess. I love Mr. Jess, man.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I've been callin' to show you some love, Jess. How you doin' before? What's up, baby? I'm good. Thank you for the love. Yeah, man. When I called about two weeks ago, I was a big on politicking with DJ Infi and Charlamagne.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I forgot to show me some love, so I just had to make sure I stuff up, I can do that. Oh, I appreciate it. Are you doing large? I'm doing good. How are you? Good morning. What's happenin', man? I just wanted to call and show y' me some love, so I just had to make sure I could do that. Oh, I appreciate it. Are you doing good? I'm doing good. How are you? Good morning.
Starting point is 00:17:48 What's happening, man? I just wanted to tell y'all how I'm doing and show y'all some love this morning, man. Hey, Andy, I'm trying to come to the Chicago show, bro, and I'm gonna come from Florida. I ain't got no old fooling around like that. My baby mama's fresh, so I step up, but I'm still gonna bring it, you hear me? Bring it on up, or just bring the family. You can just bring the family and enjoy. It's July 19th in Hampton, Virginia.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Come on out. Kids five and under are free, so you can just bring the family and enjoy. It's July 19th in Hampton, Virginia. Come on out, kids five and under are free. So you can just come and chill, have some drinks with me and we just chill. I'm gonna come part of the team with you for real, bruh bruh. And I'm trying to catch the one in New York, though. I ain't gonna hold y'all up, man.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Y'all be blessed, man. Y'all know who it is. 10.9 on four. God, baby boy. And it's all love, man. We outside this Friday, you hear me? It's the first day of Promo Friday. We outside every day the We're out there every day. We're out there every day. We're out there every day.
Starting point is 00:18:28 We're out there every day. We're out there every day. We're out there every day. We're out there every day. We're out there every day. We're out there every day. We're out there every day. We're out there every day.
Starting point is 00:18:44 We're out there every day. We're out there every day. I'm gonna bring the family back. He could leave his wife with gear and he hang with me and get some drinks. Get it off your chest 800-585-1051. Now we got the latest Lauren coming up. We do and we're going to talk about Tyler Perry. He is being sued. It was announced yesterday for 260 million dollars for sexual harassment and assault. He's denying it but we're gonna get into all the $260 million. You know when they come and they ask for that money, they ain't coming like, uh, all right, we'll get into that. Next is
Starting point is 00:19:10 the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody is DJ envy Jess hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy we are to Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight face. She gets into somebody that knows somebody. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren be coming in straight fast. Tell her, tell her! She gets in from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
Starting point is 00:19:32 She be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes she have facts, sometimes she have details, sometimes she have a little bit of everything. But what's the latest? On the Breakfast Club. Talk to me. So Tyler Perry is being sued for 260 million dollars for sexual harassment, sexual assault and workplace.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I'm sorry. Workplace sexual harassment and sexual assault and battery by a man named Derek Dixon. So this man named Derek Dixon. Why go away with this man named Derek Dixon. This man named Derek Dixon was a former he's an actor and he was formerly in the oval. He is not only just suing Tyler Perry, he's also suing Tyler Perry studios. So in Tyler Perry is denying this. His attorney has already made a statement calling this a scam. So to back up Derek Dixon says that him and Tyler Perry met in 2019 at an event and Derek Dixon's words in the documents he says that Tyler Perry picked him out of
Starting point is 00:20:29 a crowd and asked for his number suggesting that he might have a role for him. So then following that Derek Dixon says that Tyler Perry did end up giving him a small role in two episodes of a show called Ruthless. Then Derek claims that in January 2020, Tyler Perry allegedly invited Derek to his Atlanta home. Derek says that he accepted the invite. He hoped that this would build a friendship between the two of them and lead to more acting gigs. But according to the lawsuit, while there, Derek claims and alleges that he drank too
Starting point is 00:21:01 much and he ended up sleeping in the guest room. Now he alleges when he was asleep in the guest room that Tyler Perry got into bed with him and started touching his thighs and although Derek alleges that he rejected this, the advances at night he says that Tyler Perry remained interested in him. Now he says shortly after he landed a role as Dale in The Oval and he says this was great for his career, but he says that at the time, this is when he alleges at the time, this is when Tyler Perry started to fire off sexually suggestive, suggestive texts, including asking what Drew's sexual preferences were and telling him that he allegedly telling him that he has sex with men.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Now Derek also points out in his lawsuit that the character Dale that he played was written as a gay Homeless and desperate store clerk who had to sleep with other characters for a place to stay And Derek claims that Derek alleges that this is exactly what Tyler Perry told him He was looking for in a real-life partner, someone who would be loyal and dependent upon him. Derek is also alleging that he feared that his career would be derailed if he said no to Tyler Perry.
Starting point is 00:22:12 So instead, he told him he just wasn't the sexual type allegedly, but he was always terrified he'd lose his job if he complained about sexual harassment. Now Derek says that this happened to the point that, you know, once again, Tyler Perry allegedly invited him to his home back in 2020 and things took a dark turn, according to Derek. Derek is alleging that Tyler Perry greeted him warmly at the home, but then quickly started to sexually charge the conversation, asking him things allegedly like if he likes it rough in bed.
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Starting point is 00:26:17 These days, I'm interested in expanding what it means to be voiceover, to make it customizable for anyone who feels the need to explore their relationship to relationships. I'm talking to a lot of people who will help us think about how we love each other. It's a very, very normal experience to have times where a relationship is prioritizing other parts of that relationship that are being naked together. How we love our family. I've spent a lifetime trying to get my mother to love me, but the price is too high. And how we love ourselves. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Let me hear it. Yes. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Scott, he alleges that he pushed Tyler Perry away and that was the end of this alleged incident. Now, the lawsuit includes a bunch of different text messages over the years between both of the men. Most of the text messages that are included, he's trying to show that or trying to allege
Starting point is 00:27:20 that Tyler Perry is sexually charging and bringing sex into the conversation and doing things that made him uncomfortable. Now one of the text messages in particular, there's a there's a couple included in the lawsuit, one of the text messages in particular, Tyler Perry is responding to Derek and allegedly he's saying no straight men will be going on walks with you or cooking dinner for you unless they wanted to f you and then I would f you is in the text. Now this text there's a so there's the text go like this. So there is a photo that is sent to Derek of Tyler Perry in the water. He's on like off of a jet ski and there he's asking him like you know you don't see like
Starting point is 00:27:58 a stud in his photo like it's the conversation obviously between two people who are familiar with each other. And then there's another text message where Derek, I guess there was a photo posted or something like that, or maybe Tyler Perry received the photo of Derek walking with another guy and he's texting him like, Oh, I'm jealous. Like who's in this photo type of thing. And Derek is like, you know, responding like, Oh, it's just, he names the guy or whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 00:28:23 There's another text message conversation where Tyler Perry is having a conversation allegedly with Derek about when are you going to be able to have? Sex without any guilt and then there's like a whole like religious guilt conversation that they have as well Yeah, but again, so who's the lawyer? So Tyler Perry's attorney is a man named Matthew Tyler Perry's attorney. Um, the other guy the guy's attorney is I mean cuz this just it definitely sounds like you know something that we've heard, you know over and over I really honestly feel like Maybe they was dealing with each other. You'll got mad over something and then Yeah, he want to come out. Oh, I need 260,000 I mean 260 million dollars, but like it sounds everything sounds consensual everything sound like they were talking
Starting point is 00:29:16 like and then now you're just I would say this there's this two sides to every story, right? You hear this one side and I would tell people you got to look at somebody's character and somebody's integrity right we always look at Tyler Perry He's always carried himself with integrity. He's always done so much to uplift each other Especially our community. He's hired so many different people like I said, I don't know all the details Well based of what we know on Tyler Perry's Tyler Perry's character Sometimes you just got to sit back and relax. You can't judge too fast because Tyler Perry has done so much.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Like I said, there's always two sides to a story. And because Tyler Perry is being sued, you know what? He can't say anything. He has to let it play out in court. But knowing what we know about Tyler Perry and who he is as a person, sometimes you just sit back and relax and let it play out. Well, Tyler Perry has not said anything directly and just to answer your question, the guy Derrick Dixon is being represented by the law offices of Jonathan Deschard, PC out of
Starting point is 00:30:14 LA. Tyler Perry has an attorney, his name is Matthew Boyd, he's an attorney for Tyler Perry and Tyler Perry Studios Production Services who's also being sued. And their statement reads, from Tyler Perry's legal team, who's also being sued and their statement reads from Tyler Perry's legal team This is an individual who got close to Tyler Perry for what now appears to be nothing more than setting up a scam But but Tyler will not be shaken down and we are confident these fabricated claims of harassment will fail period Yes, I mean I know we got sit back and wait. I just feel like, yo, this is crazy. $260 million.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah. Like, it just sounds like a money grab, yo. $260 million. This is weird. Yeah, he's seeking the $260 million for damages. And this all comes after he quit the Oval back in June of 2024 and filed a complaint with the Equal Employment and Opportunity Commission saying he could no longer put up with the alleged sexual harassment.
Starting point is 00:31:07 So yes, to Envy's point, we just sit back down and watch it play out and just see what happens. Yeah. Alright, well, as we hear more information, we'll give you more information. Now when we come back, that was the latest with Lauren. Front page news, Morgan will be joining us and then Miss Jones will be in the building, so don't go anywhere, it's the Breakfast Club. Donkey.
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Starting point is 00:31:40 the Breakfast Club good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front-page news. Start off with sports. Game six of the NBA Finals is tomorrow at 8 30 p.m. OKC vs. the Pacers. And last night the Stanley Cup Florida Panthers beat the Edmonton Oilers 5-1. It was an amazing match. Did you see it, Jess? Yes, man.
Starting point is 00:32:07 They was going back and forth with the, you know what I mean? Yup. Yup. Lauren? You didn't see it. I didn't see it. What's up, Morgan? Hey, y'all.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Hey, all right. So in case you missed it, in the first hour, 6 a.m., President Trump is reportedly considering an offensive strike against Iran. In a bipartisan effort, members of Congress on both sides of the aisle are looking to limit U.S. involvement in the Iran-Israel conflict. Virginia Senator Tim Kaine, who is a Democrat, introduced legislation yesterday that aims to limit President Trump's war power. Let's take a listen to his comments.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I happen to believe that the U.S. being at war with Iran would be a colossal mistake. There is no national security imperative that suggests that we should. I support aid to enable Israel to defend itself, but this need not be a U.S. war. Those who are urging us on apparently have forgotten the lessons of the 20 years of war in the Middle East that caused so much heartache and damage in the region, but also in Virginia and all American states. So this legislation would keep the president from being able to use military force in Iran without Congress authorizing it.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I think it is important to note that the power to declare war is vested in Congress. The Constitution, specifically Article 1, Section 8, grants Congress the sole authority to declare war. While the President is the Commander-in-Chief of Armed Forces, they cannot declare war independently, so they will need the help of Congress. Meanwhile, Republican Congressman Thomas Massey announced his plans to introduce a bipartisan War Powers Resolution. In a post on X, Massey says, this is not our war, but if it were, Congress must decide
Starting point is 00:33:46 such matters according to our Constitution. Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez indicated that she would support the resolution by responding to Massey's post saying, signing on. Now switching gears back to the home front here on the home front, New York City Comptroller and mayoral candidate Brad Lander. He was arrested for allegedly obstructing an immigration hearing. Lander was handcuffed at the immigration court in Lower Manhattan yesterday as he was observing hearings involving possible deportations, which he has done a few times.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Now, the video of the arrest shows Lander being pushed against a wall and handcuffed. Let's take a listen to that incident. I'm not obstructing. I'm standing right here in the hallway. I asked to see the judicial warrant. You are arresting the constable. By asking for a judicial warrant. You don't have the authority to arrest US citizens asking for a judicial warrant. So prior to his arrest, as you heard, Lander shouted he was shouting to ICE agents to show
Starting point is 00:34:42 him their warrants and badges as they were taking an immigrant into custody. Lander shouted he was shouting to ICE agents to show him their warrants and badges as they were taking an immigrant into custody. Lander has been a big advocate for immigrants and is calling for more legal funding and resources for migrants who are arrested by ICE. He was later released by ICE hours after his arrest. Now this comes, of course, just a week after California Senator Alex Padilla was also aggressively removed from a Homeland Security press event regarding just asking questions for their constituents and for their people about what's going on with ICE and how ICE raids are taking place. So New York Governor Kathy Hoke was condemning the arrest of New York City Comptroller Brad
Starting point is 00:35:17 Lander and she basically is saying how dare they take an elected official who's been down there for weeks doing what he's been doing to escort people who are afraid to walk into the courthouse of the United States of America. So moving on and San Diego congressman Mike Levin is responding to the president's calls for more immigration enforcement in large U.S. cities. Of course this comes as Trump's administration is reportedly reversing its decision to halt immigration raids on undocumented workers in agriculture, hotels and restaurants. Let's take a listen to San Diego Congressman Mike Levin's comments on immigration. They seem to be going after people who are contributing positively to our economy, to
Starting point is 00:36:00 our society. Of course, the president seems to go back and forth on whether or not to do things on farms and hotels and restaurants. And it's just going to further disrupt our economy. Yeah, you talked about that yesterday, and the about it being a disruptor to our economy. So the change comes when the Department of Homeland Security has informed ICE officials about the shift on a Monday call as reported by the Washington Post. Now, this decision follows the president's acknowledgement that his aggressive deportation efforts were affecting these industries by removing essential workers.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Recently on Truth Social, though, Trump wrote, we must protect our farmers, but get the criminals out of the USA and added that changes are coming. So we'll continue to keep you guys posted. I think before I leave though, I think it's important to note that tomorrow is Juneteenth. Yes. Hey. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:53 So June 19th, 1865, the day marks when slaves in Texas were finally free to an extent, free-ish. And the slaves in Texas finally learned about the Emancipation Proclamation so Juneteenth June 19 1865 we've been free ish and that's your front page news I'm Morgan Wood follow me on socials at Morgan Media and for more news coverage follow the black information network at black information at work download the free I heart radio app and visit us at BIN news comm thank y'all.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Now I do have a question. Juneteenth is a national holiday right so banks will be closed. Yes now everything is closed. It's a federal holiday. It's a federal holiday. I just want to make sure because I thought Trump would try to change that back but I just want to make sure it's a federal holiday. Things are closed.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Post office closed. Matter of fact y'all we I don't think we should make too much noise about it because he won't remember I think he forgot about it. Oh snap. Got you, alright. So it's a federal holiday. So enjoy the day off tomorrow guys. Yes, alright. Well, I'll see you guys on Friday. Thank you girl. Now when we come back, radio legend, radio icon, Miss Jones will be joining us. Now, Miss Jones got me my start in morning radio 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:38:03 She gave me an opportunity, gave me a chance to ride with her and taught me morning radio and we're going to talk to her next. She actually lost her love for music industry radio a couple of years ago during COVID and we just happened to reconnect and I was very upset that she gave it up. She said she didn't want to do it no more. She had to raise her boys. So we came up with a plan to get her back on radio and she'll break all that down and we'll talk to Miss Jones next so don't go anywhere it's The Breakfast Club good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Good morning everybody it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are The Breakfast Club Lauren LaRosa is here as well and we got a special guest in the building yes we do now she is the first black woman to host a syndicated morning show. She had one in New York. And Philly has one in New York right now. She does entertainment reporting on PIX11. And she has her own morning show. It's where I got my start, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:38:55 It's Miss Jones, AKA Jonesy. Welcome. Good morning. Thank you. Thank you. And V, thank you for that. Thank you for having me here. Oh, look at that!
Starting point is 00:39:03 Ah! Yeah! So if you don't know, Jones is how I got my start in morning radio. Thank you, Envy. Thank you for that. Thank you for having me here. So if you don't know Jones is how I got my start in morning radio And I'll just break down the story then I let you girls take over because I know everything about Jones. Yes So I was doing morning radio with Joe Button at hot 97. This is when Starring Buck left suede left. They tried a bunch of different shows, it didn't work, and they had Joe Button, and we were doing Morning Show, and Joe Button was a rapper at the time,
Starting point is 00:39:32 so he was on tour and doing all types of things, and it just didn't work. So they brought in Jones, and when they brought in Jones, me and Jones really didn't have a relationship. We knew of each other, but didn't know each other, and I remember the first day, me being nosy, I was air hustling. And I found out she took she was talking, I don't know her manager or whoever at the time, and she said how much they made and how much they were giving her. And I pulled it to the side and I said, look,
Starting point is 00:39:56 just to let you know, they paid Joe button this much. So you should ask for that much. And right then and there, that's what's up. That's what he said. They paying Joe 250. And we became brother and sister. She asked for that. And the rest of them, you got more. You're a starting point. So thank you. Yeah. And that's how our brother and sister became. And from there on, we've been through ups and downs and battles and wars. And we always had each other's backs. The good, the bad, we were always there for each other. And even after, we were always there for each other. And that's how it became.
Starting point is 00:40:30 So she is somebody that I look up to in radio. So when I talk about radio, she taught me how to do interviews, she taught me how to tease, she taught me how to not have anything to talk about and just pull a topic out of thin air and make it big. Like she was the moment. And she was somebody that mentor or idolize when it came to radio because she knew how to do it and she did it so effortlessly.
Starting point is 00:40:49 So miss Jones ladies and gentlemen. I love how you advocated for her first of all like you because you know nobody would have did you know what I'm saying. Not many people would do that. Oh this person getting paid this and you knew that you knew who she was and her worth and what she was worth you know and that was real Your value no one does that anymore. No nobody no, so that that's really dope. Thank you How do you feel about how radio is ran today that the the current state of radio today? You know what? Business is always business once I got that once I understood that it just became an
Starting point is 00:41:23 Understanding of do your show and expect them to perform the business. Once you take the personal out of it, it's easier to just focus and move on and do your other thing. Yeah. Let's talk about you getting to radio. So before radio, you were a music artist. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:39 R&B singer. Yeah. I had singles, Where I Want To Be Boy. My first album actually never came out. It wasn't until I left Stepson Records and got with Andre Harrell at Motown. It was going to be the new Motown. And then he got fired and then it was just bringing in A&R, bringing in a new, it was a mess.
Starting point is 00:41:59 So I'm glad that when they asked me to do Weekends at Hot 97, although first I was like, radio? I'm gonna be a big singer star, I don't got time. I'm glad I humored them because that wound up maintaining my lifestyle, which wasn't a huge lifestyle, but paying my bills because my mother died June 26 of 91, right after I got home from college. My dad died freshman year, so I had nothing.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I had nothing, so I needed that little weekend job and I didn't know I would wind up needing it to be my full-time job when they offered me morning. Now Jones was the R&B singer, we're talking to Miss Jones, she was the R&B singer, kind of like how Fab used to do the Clue mixtapes, she used to do the R&B version of that before Fab, so she would sing on the mixtapes,
Starting point is 00:42:40 who was ever beat was out, she would kill it and that's how Jones got popular, she did with Ron G, legendary mixtapees, who was ever beat was out, she would kill it and that's how Jones got popular. She did with Ron G legendary mixtape DJ Ron G. That's amazing. You never have an R&B mixtape. Oh yeah, that was the start. And it's funny because once I did it, it started catching on. But I was just doing it for fun primarily because I love the beats and I always wanted to sing. I didn't want to necessarily be a rapper, but that was a good fusion and it was safe because I, you know, I studied music.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I thought I could sing. I know that people liked it, but hearing a mixtape on Jamaica Avenue in front of the Coliseum Mall was everything. You already made it when that happened. So what happened? Like, why, why aren't we, you could blame it on a lot of things. Now I'm so glad I avoided the baby oil of it all Okay, yeah, I'm glad we said um I
Starting point is 00:43:31 Always wound up with labels that didn't necessarily have the resources Hmm I was always with a small engine and then when you have the other artists that have the bigger engines and maybe not necessarily The bigger talent or the bigger gifts you lose But I flipped it and I just stayed the chorus of radio, never knowing that that would be my full-time thing and then from radio I would then go back to making records because last year I went back to music,
Starting point is 00:43:55 I have a song called Calling All Ladies that was Grammy nominated. And this is the first time ever, thank you. So, and I have a new single, Let's Play, it's the birthday song, hopefully Envy will give it a spin or so No, we'll get it on this morning. Yeah Do you think Diddy took what you were doing back then? I know for a fact he did. You want me to tell the story? Please
Starting point is 00:44:15 So if you remember the so back then it was Mary J. Blige and it was well before that it was like maybe Allison Williams, but she wasn't really a contender because she was a little more mature at her marketing. But back then it was Michelle A, Alison Williams, and Mary J. Blige was the new kid on the block. Michelle A was from the West Coast, so she didn't really have the edge, the New York edge. And they, well, then I came and Ron G was my person
Starting point is 00:44:39 and Diddy was behind Mary. So Mary's first album, if you go back and listen, it was really all jazz, R&B. Diddy always had his ear to the street and so he heard about my stuff coming and he came to Ron G, heard the mixtapes that we were doing and he knew that my album was supposed to be like the mixtapes, which wound up being Mary's remix album. So when he couldn't get Ron to give him my stuff, because Ron was like, no, Ms. Jones is Jones is gonna be my Artist I'm getting her a deal He took the music and went and remixed her first album and released it before we could even get out the gate with mine
Starting point is 00:45:11 So because he couldn't have you or not me he wanted the music for Mary Oh, okay, you wanted the music from Ron G for Mary so every song that was supposed to be mine That's not that's on the remix album. Right. That was, he got it from, and he tricked Ron, told Ron, just bring all your tapes down here, I just want a vibe. And Ron dumped all the tapes there. And I'm like, why would you do that? In hindsight, he didn't know.
Starting point is 00:45:36 We didn't know that Diddy will wind up being, you know, the way it was. So that's it. But she didn't know. Yeah. Have you and Mary J. Blige ever sat and had a conversation about this? And no, and she doesn't know she doesn't like I probably shouldn't even still remember. Why shouldn't you remember? Did somebody give you something where you ain't supposed to remember? I mean, because it's so many years after so many years, it's supposed to move on. Right. So don't get me wrong. I have my moments of Tourette's and going down to Rabbit Hill but primarily I realized that she did not know and it wasn't her fault.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And that's not to say that even if she didn't she wouldn't have been the huge star she is today. But I just know that particular situation happened that way and that is the truth. But I'm not denying her success. I know after that Diddy did the reality show for you for free. I've heard you talk about that. Oh right! Remember that Envy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:32 My god. What was the exact reality show? We don't even know. We were just kids happy to have some cameras because this is before reality shows. This is before Keisha Cole. This is before anything and they brought cameras into the Hot 97 studios, so Envy was like, it would be good, it would be dope actually, if you could get Diddy to co-sign you go shoot some scenes with Diddy.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I'm like, what are we talking about? He's like, whatever! So we get in there, I get into the office, and he's, first thing he says is, why are you always talking about Beyonce? And I'm like, I don't know, what are you drinking? He's like, broke Ray T, do you want some? And I'm like, yeah, and then we just broke the ice
Starting point is 00:47:03 and started talking, so the show never went anywhere, And he said it was horribly produced. It was so bad We're still kicking it with miss Jones now break down how you got on morning radio with starring buck back at hot 97 days Now mind you star and buck wild used to write talk shit about me in their little magazine that they had right as an R&B singer They always took him out the gap in my mouth and all the things and I'm like Since when do dudes talk about a woman's features? Yeah. But that was them. And so when they put me together with them, I still had an attitude.
Starting point is 00:47:32 So he apologized, but it don't matter. Like, you know what I mean? And then he used to talk about everyone, which I understood what he was doing. But I didn't necessarily want to be a part of that because I'm still an R&B singer trying to make a comeback. Yeah. And you got to rub hands or shake hands. Right, and I'm outside at night. You're not, you go back to wherever it is you live.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I'm in these streets and I gotta. Wow, yes. Yeah, and then. So why did you leave that show? Because. I knew all this stuff. I'm not gonna lie. I'm also a guy who knows.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Before we get to why you left, I wanted to ask, because it kind of sets up for that question. So just hearing that background and knowing about the magazine and you coming in with the attitude of I got to protect myself Is that why before you left you chose to protect yourself in a situation that with Aliyah? Yes, that was a straight disrespect and it was too early for the bulls and I didn't like the fact that I knew all morning They were whispering. So I knew something was brewing. It was always something brewing with the kids, right? But that morning it was too soon for the bulls. I knew something was brewing. It was always something brewing with the kids, right? But that morning it was too soon for the bull.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I knew she had just died. So it was, and I was like, but I know they would never like go that far. Well, what happened? I don't know. Oh, go ahead. You tell them it's your own thing. So Aaliyah passed away the week before.
Starting point is 00:48:34 This was right before 9-11 would happen, right? She passed away. This is tragic because no one girl, R&B young singer had been dying at all. The next week, Starr and Buckwild, primarily Starr and his assistant Reese, they decide to reenact her dying on the plane crash. And they played the screams and the sound of fire burning,
Starting point is 00:48:59 like a plane crashing. And I knew they were up to something. It's like to this day, he goes, Miss Jones knew. No, you kept it from me. And you know you didn't tell me what it was. But when I heard it, I walked out and I said, I wish you had died in a plane rather than Aliyah. And then Tracy used that. She was like, you don't wish death on your coworkers and go home and you cool off and you think about this. Like she punished me, right? She yelled at me. And not them, on the radio on the radio
Starting point is 00:49:26 and then an hour later mcdonald's pulled their money burger king pepsi everybody pulled their money i don't know if it was jay-z and dame dash telling them this is what happened i don't know because we didn't have social media back then we didn't travel that quickly but we had a lot of listeners back then and everyone that was listening to star Buckwild featuring Miss Jones Heard it and knew someone that heard it right so when the corporation started pulling the money Hello Jonesy is Tracy Tracy the one that just told me to go home and think about it. We need you back I have to pull Storm Buckwild off the air the world that everybody's mad I bet yeah, and we need you to to calm the savage beast that is the...
Starting point is 00:50:05 And I did what I was told and went back on air. There's always been a conversation that either Dame or Jay-Z either called the station or came to the station or something like that after all that happened. Probably. And now that all this other stuff is coming out now, years later, I'm sure they probably took her to breakfast and made the threat that either you get them off the air or else we're... You won't have any more Rockefeller artists. I'm sure, they probably took her to breakfast and made the threat that either you get them off the air or else you won't have any more Rockefeller artists. I'm sure of that. I'm finding out now, we're all finding out
Starting point is 00:50:30 that those type of conversations were had. Wendy got let go because Diddy allegedly called Tracy and said by the time I get back in town, she better be gone or you won't have any bad boy artists. So when they finally left Hot 97 and you were in Philly. Yes, right? You got to call to come back to New York. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Wait, wait, wait. Let's stay in Philly real quick. Because you going to Philly was Wendy Williams giving you a call. So I called Wendy. Wait, so Wendy called me and I think she called me. Yeah, I've seen interviews where you said she called you because she heard what was happening. She's under me. Lauren B. No.
Starting point is 00:51:03 She's so informed. That's what I said about that. I really do. You, Wendy Williams, Ms. Info, Angie Martinez, you guys are like the pinnacle of like, if I could have a radio career all combined, it is that. So I enjoy all your interviews, especially your Drink Champs interview. I've watched it a couple of times. Thank you. Thank you for carrying the torch and getting in there and getting those stories because I pay attention to you too.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I'd be like this like what? Thank you appreciate that. I appreciate you still having the love of it So Wendy call yeah Jones cuz she always had to sneak to call me because her husband Kevin Later would try and have me murdered in front of hot 97. That's a whole nother story Welcome to the you versus you podcast I'm Berero, and every week we sit down with some of the biggest names in entertainment to talk about the real stuff, the struggles, the doubts, and the breakthroughs that made them who they are. We go deep, throwing childhood trauma, family,
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Starting point is 00:55:26 who will help us think about how we love each other. It's a very, very normal experience to have times where a relationship is prioritizing other parts of that relationship that are being naked together. How we love our family. I've spent a lifetime trying to get my mother to love me, but the price is too high. And how we love ourselves. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:55:58 There's court documents. Go eat. Wendy called again. So Wendy called. Yes. She said, I heard what's going on. There's court talking, man. Go eat. Okay, Wendy called again. So Wendy called. Yes. She said, I heard what's going on.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Called Golden Boy, who was then doing mornings at, or the PD for Power 99, and called Luscious Ice over at the beat. I didn't know either of these people, but I needed a job, so I called. Luscious Ice responded quickly, and in a couple of weeks, I had the position, I didn't know anyone in Philadelphia except for Charlie Baltimore and thank God for Chuck. She took me under her wing, she sat in with me on my first week and introduced me to people,
Starting point is 00:56:36 told me kind of where to party, where not to party, what to stay away from and Derek Coleman. He from the Sixers and we went to Syracuse together, he helped me find my apartment. And he just was being real big brother to me when I got to Philadelphia. But it was very rewarding because when I got to that station, they were like number 50 in the ratings. They had no signal. And they had little resources. And I brought them to number three in three
Starting point is 00:57:05 months. Wow. So for me that was self what? Self proclaiming. Self proclaiming. You know what I mean? It was comp it was um because I still had the hurt of did I mean that little to the Star and Buckwild show that they think that they could just throw me out and I'm like, maybe I ain't s***. And then... You go somewhere, you revamp it, you replenish it, and then you make it a whole new thing. And you just, I just brought the same thing.
Starting point is 00:57:33 They were happy to have me. They were coming to my Grown Folk Fridays, which I created, by the way. They were coming, it was everything I did in Philly. I love Philly so much because they gave me what my soul needed without being paid or without yeah without being paid to do so. They showed up for me and at that time in my life they gave me the confidence I needed
Starting point is 00:57:52 to stand in being the only woman doing morning radios like that and then it was so gratifying when Hot 97 had to call me back to save that ass. So now we get back to Neera or Jesh you want to ask her about the front page with a. Yeah. So somebody tried to have you killed. Oh, Kevin, Wendy Williams husband. Allegedly. According to the court documents.
Starting point is 00:58:14 OK, yes. Break it down. Allegedly, break it down allegedly. Kevin never liked me and Wendy's friendship. And I think it's because when Wendy introduced me to Kevin, when she very first met him, he and I was sitting in the car together because she had gone in the store to get some gum. And we had a conversation and I told him to take care of my friend. He goes, No, when she makes
Starting point is 00:58:30 it, I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna take care of her. I didn't like that. I don't like that. What you mean when she becomes a star, you're gonna be right there. I didn't like that. And maybe it was harmless. Right. But no, it's not because look how it ended up. So I knew Kevin didn't want her having any part to me and I guess it got to the point because I wasn't backing down at that point. She would start saying slick stuff about me on air and I would start saying stuff back. For many years I did nothing but I was tired of being a punk ass bitch and so I started saying stuff back and he wanted to silence me and so in the court documents when their
Starting point is 00:58:59 intern, Nicole I think was her name, sued them. She came out and testified that he attempted to have a murder plot placed on Miss Jones. Now three years ago when me and Wendy Williams reunited, I think this was 2022, she told me, she goes, oh, as far as Kev trying to have you murdered, he was just playing, he didn't mean it. But that doesn't mean he didn't say it.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And that doesn't mean that someone who is trying to be in his graces, we see people now shooting and killing people because they think they're doing something in the spirit of, I got her, I got her. So how you playing? How you shooting? How do you feel right now about the thing? How you shooting? You don't catch that. It was so regular. You better go and throw it out the pressure. You better basket it.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Yeah, no, I had to. How you basket it? Yeah, thanks, Jess. Thank you. I almost missed it. You say it so regularly. And I'm Wendy. How you killing me?
Starting point is 00:59:53 How you killing me? How you killing me? Oh my God. All right, we got more with Jonesy. Miss Jones and we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning. Girl ain't nothin' to the pain Ain't trickin' if you got it what you askin'
Starting point is 01:00:25 For, I'll put you in the mansion Somewhere in Wisconsin Like I said ain't nothin' to the pain We can change the last name, what's happenin' Cause you look so good Tell me why you wanna work here I'll put you on the front page of a king magazine But you gon' meet yourself hurt here Baby I brought you in the back just to have a conversation Really think you need some ventilation Let's talk about you and me Oh I can't believe it Ooh ooh she out on me on me Morning everybody it's DJ NV Jessilarious, Charlamagne the God, we are the Breakfast Club,
Starting point is 01:01:08 Lorna Rosa is here as well, we're still talking to Miss Jones, radio personality singer, she's on PIX 11. So now, you know, when Jones goes back to Philly, leaves Hot 97, I was mad because I'm like, how she just gonna leave us in Philly? We've been doing this show for three, four years and I was mad at Jones. And I don't think I spoke to Jones for like two years three years. I didn't know you were mad at me. We didn't speak maybe for five years. No, Envy, that's not true. I had to be longer than that. We didn't speak for a minute. No, we were talking. We didn't talk personally. I had no idea you were mad because I
Starting point is 01:01:38 thought I did invite you to come to Philly and you said you had money in the clubs. So I thought I was coming. I thought we was gang gang. Yeah. She, I had y'all deuces and left. So I was always mad. I'm like, damn. So I had to start over. But I'm so sorry. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:01:52 No, bring it back. Rewind. I am sorry because I wanted you. I don't, maybe I didn't come to you directly. Maybe I, I knew I couldn't afford you. So maybe I asked somebody in the team, do you think I should ask Envy because he's not gonna come. I can't afford to pay him.
Starting point is 01:02:08 But I thought- I'd have did it for free. When COVID hit, I haven't spoke to Jones and you was watching the own network. You and your wife, and I did not know this, Jack and Joe mom called and said, I had no idea you're Miss Jones because I had created a new life for myself.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Once I got fired in Philly the third time, the last time, I couldn't mess around anymore. So I separated myself from the industry. I couldn't listen to radio. It made me bleed to hear. You didn't do radio industry stuff at all. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I changed my name. I started using my married name, just so that no one could trace Miss Jones back to me and that my kids would have a shame free upbringing. So I was not doing that. So one of my Jack and Jill moms, the Jack and Jill of America called and said, I didn't know that was you. And I said, we took him out.
Starting point is 01:02:59 And then she said, there's a program on own. DJ Envy, his wife just said that we're not for you giving her husband a start in radio. He wouldn't be where he is. And I broke down crying because I hadn't spoken or heard from him in years. And I was angry because I felt like he's doing well. The other co-hosts, everybody's doing well. They started on my show and no one has reached out a hand
Starting point is 01:03:17 to even see if my kids had Christmas, if everybody was doing okay or nothing. I was upset. But that gave me the, to get outside of my ego, to pick up the phone and call and say, hey, can we talk? And he was like, hey Jones, he was very, yeah. You were very, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:41 You're gonna make me cry in here. You're gonna make me cry too. So I can't look at it now. So during COVID, she was telling me what she was going through. She left the industry. She didn't want to do radio anymore. She was fine just being a mom. She had two boys.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And I'm like, nah, B. I'm like, I don't think you understand what you bring. So I said, this is what we're gonna do. Let's create a reunion show. We use my platform to push it. And I guarantee you a program director will call you. Did I say that? You did. And then what happened in a couple of months?
Starting point is 01:04:11 You're not even crying. I'm crying. Girl, what? I'm crying. I'm crying. I know the alone. I mean, we don't know your height of it, me and Jess, but like, you know what it's like to be dealing with something.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And being alone and feeling alone and I felt so alone all the time that I became numb to it Just felt like it was always gonna be me and just me Especially because in this I think people look at you. It's like you had a career people think you're doing well You just don't know what some people think that you're so resilient that she's not bad cuz she doesn't choose to be back Look at her. She's out there being football mom wrestling PTA mom. She doesn't want to come back into the industry and God bless her because the industry is poisoned. Not knowing, I would have enjoyed, you know, having a stable check. And I was sick and I had multiple more surgeries with the tumor, which is, I want to say it's gone. It never leave me completely But I had I had been diagnosed with amelia blastoma since I was child and was told I would never sing or have a career
Starting point is 01:05:10 That required speaking Which is why God is just so miraculous right and wonderful But can I can I talk about the um the surveys? Yes This is what made me cry, okay? the surveys this is what made me cry okay but this yeah so for Jones to make money she would do surveys she go home on the wig and do the survey again then go home put on another wig and do the survey again so she would wear three different wigs to get paid to do...oh sorry. Don't go blowing up the spot.
Starting point is 01:05:50 But you had your baby at this point right? You had to feed your baby. So you would get paid first. Oh he crying too? We all in here crying. I'm not going down after all of this time and I'm back. We'll bail you out. So she would do these surveys to pay the bills and to pay the rent and to get food. And she would change the wigs.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Mm-hmm. And the n***a was like, nah, this gotta stop. Although it's humor in it and, you know, now or whatever, but like, you were doing what you could do to take care of your baby. Mm-hmm. Well, you know. And to pay your bills.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Right, but. Yes, you know that story. That's a little, That's a good story. Yes, I do. I just want it like, for me, my kids did not ask to be born to me. Yeah. So why should they have to suffer and go without what their classmates have? Because of my reckless mouth or poor decisions.
Starting point is 01:06:40 So you have to do what you have to do. And those surveys, like, real talk, I like still do. I'm not stupid. I'm not stupid. You're stupid. You're stupid. They're so easy. This is what your opinion on,
Starting point is 01:06:54 do you like this pressure or do you like that one? It's easy to money. Oh my God. I still can't. This is crazy. Oh my God. So listen, so if we start doing a podcast, and within about three weeks she gets a call, right?
Starting point is 01:07:06 Somebody a program director from down south, offers her a job. And she goes, Envy, what should I do? I said, you should wait. And she goes, why are they going to give me a deal? They're standing up. I said, you're not from down there. This is your town. This is where you're from.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I said, somebody from New York is going to call you. She was like, you think? Another month later, you got the call from New York. And it took about a good year and a half of me meeting with Skip and Chris to convince them that the Jonesy that they're hearing about or the Jonesy that they once knew that was doing shock-jock stuff has matured, has children, has reasons to not come and destroy your radio station, sir, and say reckless stuff to cause us all lose our jobs, right? And ultimately that really was who I had grown into. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I had grown up. Grown. I had grown up, I'm growing. And so it was, I felt like for me, because the radio station dropped on my birthday, that's me and God's thing. He knows when he does things on my birthday, I'm, oh, that's for me.
Starting point is 01:08:03 So I hung in there. I did get discouraged along the course of the way because it was just taking so long. A lot of women, maybe men too, we're so used to fighting and things not happening that we're always waiting for their other shoe to drop. Yeah. But I'm so thankful, I guess, that I had nothing to lose and everything to gain by humbling myself and letting it happen in their time and in God's time because here I am and now I feel like God is moving me up so quickly because I did do a lot of work when I was home. Like I got into the scripture and I would write down my pastor, Darius Daniels,
Starting point is 01:08:39 I would write down everything and so I could apply it whenever I was faced with a challenge because I don't want to go back to being hothead Tarsha. I want to, right? And so I was doing the work and I was applying the work. And even now I listen to the scripture every morning on my drive into the block because I don't want the listeners that God has blessed me with again to be tortured or tormented with some that I'm going through, right? Because it's bigger than me, right? And so, there's always work to be done. It never stops. I'm just thankful that I'm able to sit here with you and you and you and Charlemagne, you're here in spirit.
Starting point is 01:09:16 But thank you for allowing me in y'all's house. Because I never imagined, I thought it was over. I thought I was going to be Jalen and Che's mom. And I was happy was over. I thought I was going to be Jalen and Che's mom and I was happy being that Yeah, right, but um as my kids grew older they had needs so I'm glad I'm in position You know to meet the needs. We're still talking to Miss Jones radio personality singer. She's on picks 11 Jess When did you meet Miss Noles and the why did you say that? She told me off you You know I won that argument. What happened with the argument with Ms. Knowles?
Starting point is 01:09:50 So Beyonce, it was a Friday afternoon and the staff was trying to rush me out. You still here, Jonesy? We always would leave, same thing as now. Friday, we're out of here. Gone. Most of the time I wasn't even coming in. I'm at the Borgata. Did I tell you that? You did. thing is now Friday we're not going I wasn't even coming in I'm at the border
Starting point is 01:10:05 I was at the bugata yeah jones is winning at the bugata she's not coming to work I might not come back Monday she's like, mb, done with my mom sick bing bing bing but on that day I was there I didn't know Beyonce was coming up so Michael
Starting point is 01:10:22 Sean the comedian on our show at the time he happened to be downstairs because his routine was to go down after the show and smoke Okay so he said he sees a whole like Secret Service black SUVs pull up and all of a sudden doors fling open doors fling open and Hair blonde hair is just blowing in the wind and these long beautiful elongated legs step out of the SUV. He's like Jonesy so he runs back in the building and let me know that Beyonce, who we have been joking on, laughing on, I mean, cause we always played too much.
Starting point is 01:10:51 We didn't have to be personal. There was really nothing. There was no real beef. No! Okay. I was just being stupid, right? And I was being paid to be stupid and to mind people's business.
Starting point is 01:11:04 And if you ever want me to stop minding your business, you have to pay me a separation fee. Yes. So she came upstairs and she went to hug me. But just being stupid, I was like, uh-uh, I don't hug. I have newborns at home or whatever. Just something stupid just to be extra. I didn't know she was going to be Love on Top.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I was going to say, where Erya Beyoncé is. What song? Give us a song. I didn't know she was gonna be love on top. I said what era Beyonce is What song? Popping from the coochie of jean and old Does this say my name what was this ring ring the alarm? Yeah, I got kids at home. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't hug me.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I got kids at home. I just said, no, no, no. I didn't say it like that. I just was like, you know, she went in for the hug and I did the stiff arm. And she was like, I'm Beyonce. And I was like, nice to meet you. And she, nice to meet you too. She walked on to the studio to do her voice work.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Here come that damn Tina Knowles. Yeah. I like how you keep my daughter's name in your mouth all the time. This is in public, it's in front of everybody now. Everybody, I'm there, it's in the hallway. Okay, and now I'ma continue to keep it, and now I'ma add yours to the list.
Starting point is 01:12:16 You need to worry about that grand Joker lipstick making you look like the damn Joker, what? You said that to Miss Tina. I did. Yes. You still feel like that? I definitely feel like Josie said that back in that back. No, I believe I was there But you just said that with so much conviction
Starting point is 01:12:29 I just wanted to know if like where we at right now with miss Tina and I was reenacting which you know I mean, yeah, that's being came out But no I had so I didn't have a problem with Beyonce back then despite all the parody songs all the things Yeah, we were like kids being let loose in the fun house Yeah, remember what MC Hammer came and you wasn't there. I was a bit and you said be careful. Yeah all the things. We were like kids being let loose in the fun house. You remember when MC Hammer came and you wasn't there that day and you called and you said be careful. Yep. I warned you. So I made fun of MC Hammer. What the hell happened with MC Hammer?
Starting point is 01:12:52 First of all, because I heard he be getting down with the get down back in the day. I didn't know MC Hammer was a gangster from Oakland. Absolutely. Right? I heard, you know, you see the dance, can't touch this. Yes. So this is when interviews were live. Really live. So when he landed he was on his way to the station. Jones was in the casino. So she didn't come that day. Went in. So man, my asshole was making fun of him. Like, Hammer's coming. What you gonna say? Can't touch this. Like, Hammer, what happened? I got to pray. Like, we were making fun of him. And Hammer's in the cab listening to himself be clowned because he's thinking he's coming
Starting point is 01:13:23 for love, a great interview, and it's New York. Who wants to be clowned in New York? He's never expecting. Right. So he gets to the station, him and an older gentleman come inside, closes the door, stands at the door and says, I'm here to test the coward's heart. I don't even know what that means.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Right. I was like, what that mean? He says, I'm here to f*** y'all up. Talk that s*** in front of me. Now at that point, he's not letting us out. He's not letting us out. So what you started doing, dancing? What?
Starting point is 01:13:51 I was nervous. No, no. You joked again. You was like, can't touch this. It started dipping and dodging away from him. See, he playing around. Yup. And then Mike Shawn starts going in with his type of comedy and then somebody called Ebro.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Ebro came from the Bay Area and he had a relationship with Hammer. But it got so real, like I think Hammer started sweating and was in their face like when you're talking and spitting out. Oh yeah. And then had it not been for Ebro saying chill, chill, chill, chill Hammer, they not, yeah. They would have had to squabble. Ebro called me and said, look, I don't know if you know, but Hammer's real him is real and that little that that guy the old guy you got probably got a gun in His bag right there. Yeah, so he was like At the time I scared my little tootoo. Yes, so those little two bullets ain't gonna do nothing
Starting point is 01:14:35 And I was kid I was my part of my scariest interview after that was about the so he was the original bird man Man, yes, he was original Birdman. Yes he was. Damn, yes. But in all perspective, yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So your ass at the casino. Doubling down on a hard four or something.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Split the fours or something. I do wanna ask the last question. You were in Biggie's video. One More Chance. One More Chance, how was that video? That was very, very special cause everyone didn't get invited to be in it. And I was one of the girls whose records may not have been the biggest, but they invited
Starting point is 01:15:08 me because Shorty was ill. And everybody was showing up and everyone was being regular like nobody was being nasty. Everyone came with love and excitement because we didn't even hear the song, Diddy wouldn't let anybody hear. And the only song that was out was the remix. So all night before I'm practicing in the mirror to the remix, not knowing that that wasn't gonna be the one. But everybody was, and there were people outside
Starting point is 01:15:31 still trying to get in. So I'm actually glad I got there early, but Patra, Jhane, like I'm fans of these girls and now I'm like in a video with them. And to this day, when those, see things like that would happen while I was raising my kids when they were little a video would come on and somebody would be like that looks like you things like that and I think the defining moment when the cat came out the bag that tarsha jaylen and chaise mom was miss jones I was running around as football mom and before a football game
Starting point is 01:16:01 you have to make sure that the announcer booth, everybody has the names of the players, the coaches, all the things. And then you have to press a button for the Whitney Houston National Anthem. Bitch, I'm pressing buttons and nothing's playing. And they're all looking at the black lady in the booth that they probably think should had no business up there to begin with. I grabbed the microphone and bust down the national anthem
Starting point is 01:16:23 to the point they're clapping before I even get to the and the land And my son's they're looking they're like jail and that's your mom and I'm like And at that moment they're like you're somebody you do, you know white folks are Google. Oh, yeah somebody you do you know white folks start Google oh yeah at that point and I couldn't hide and then I was like maybe I'm not supposed to maybe I need to figure out you know some things and I wanted to sing I just didn't want to be back in the industry so I started singing with a little band and that fulfilled me and then that and my little say um surveys yeah the money from singing in the band we were good we were. I appreciate you so much.
Starting point is 01:17:05 You can check her on Pix11 on Thursdays. And now I have a TV talk show special on Pix11. What is that on? Hopefully June 22nd. If not, because you know me, I'm never satisfied so I'm still tweaking. If I don't make my June 22nd debut, it'll be July 6th on Pix11. We're definitely supporting. Go out and watch that.
Starting point is 01:17:25 And I love this so much history here man. Thank you guys for respecting and carrying the torch on ladies. No problem. That's really good for us. We here because you. Literally. Well, thank you because you're doing it well and you're looking great doing it. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Stay focused. Black out the white noise. Okay. Yeah. And just keep going. Thank you, guys. Well, it's Miss Jones. Jonesy! It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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Starting point is 01:18:22 Okay, I'm listening. Uh. Well, Lauren was doing a report about Tyler Perry. Jess was over there giggling and stuff. Lauren kept stopping. You, Tyler, instead of talking about character, what I have to do, whether you do it or not, he could have a really good character, but he could also be guilty of it.
Starting point is 01:18:37 These things do happen. You're absolutely right, but my whole point is I'm not gonna judge a man based off of one side of a situation. I know Tyler Perry's character and based on his character I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until we hear more information. I'm just not going to crucify a man, especially that somebody has done so much for our community. I don't know if he's guilty or not, but me personally, I'm not going to crucify the brother until I hear his side of things.
Starting point is 01:19:00 You can if you want. That's your opinion. And that's on your decision. You literally said just sit back and let everything go. No one said to crucify, but when you start talking like opinion and that's literally said just sit back He's just like, whatever, I don't think he did it. Why would he do that? No, nobody said, nobody said Diddy's character was great. Nobody said Diddy's character was great. People said, let's say the information. I'm just telling you what Tyler Perry has done to people and you hear all the things that,
Starting point is 01:19:35 the good that Tyler Perry has done for people. And all I'm saying is don't judge when you only hear one person side of the situation. That's what I said. Why couldn't it be, if he did this, this is traumatizing to the sky. If he did this, this is wrong. You could have said that. Alright, but look.
Starting point is 01:19:50 And just over there giggled. I could have said it, but I didn't want to say it because I don't believe it. Alright, look, let me tell you this. If something funny, I'ma laugh. I don't care what you talking about. You can give me donkey if you want. That's cool, but if something funny, I'ma laugh. Derek Dickinson, that's funny.
Starting point is 01:20:04 That is kind of funny. And the character of a homeless gay dude this that did it it's funny a lot of Tyler Perry stuff is funny so I'm a laugh haha on that ass but Dre you can give fucking gross. That is funny. Hello, who's this? My name is Keisha. Hey, Keisha. Who you want to give donkey to date to? I want to give donkey to my ex-boyfriend. Why? He cheated on me with a gay man.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Ha ha ha, on that ass. That's crazy. What a transition. Oh my god. What a transition. I'm so sorry. I don't know what I did wrong. I'm sorry, mama.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Oh, no. It wasn't you. You didn't do anything wrong. Maybe that's been what he wanted to. I'm sorry mama. Oh, no, it wasn't you you didn't do anything wrong Maybe that's been where he wanted to be but he could be by to be honest with you He could just be by cuz you know, they exist, you know But he should have gave you that choice he definitely need don't get a day cuz he should have gave you that choice Welcome to the you versus you podcast I'm Lex Burrow and every week we sit down
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Starting point is 01:24:02 Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. To most people, I'm the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded in 2024. Voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's more than personal. It's political, it's societal, and at times, it's far from what I originally intended it to be. These days, I'm interested in expanding what it means to be voiceover,
Starting point is 01:24:37 to make it customizable for anyone who feels the need to explore their relationship to relationships. I'm talking to a lot of people who will help us think about how we love each other. feels the need to explore their relationship to relationships. I'm talking to a lot of people who will help us think about how we love each other. It's a very, very normal experience to have times where a relationship is prioritizing other parts of that relationship that are being naked together. How we love our family. I've spent a lifetime trying to get my mother to love me, but the price is too high.
Starting point is 01:25:04 And how we love ourselves. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Yes. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sorry about that.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Yeah, so I caught him on the Jack app. The Jack app? Oh, Jack, oh, he's really in it. What the him on the Jack app. The Jack app? Oh, Jack is, oh, he's really in it. What the hell is the Jack app? The Jack app is for the girls and... What were you doing on the Jack app? She was trying to figure out why her man was on there. Yo, it's the app where you can track if your guy is gay?
Starting point is 01:25:37 No, the Jack app is, it's like, you can be in a location, you on Jack and you can put your location in and you can see who's in your area that wants to like hook up, link up, put on all that type of thing. Oh wow, and that's for gays in streets, right? It's not just the crowd. I don't know the right people that go on Jack and you can put your location and you can see who's in your area that wants to like hook up, link up, put on all that type of that. And that's for gays in streets, right? It's not just the crowd. I don't know straight people that go on Jack, do you? Shayna, we have a gay in the house.
Starting point is 01:25:50 For everyone who's in the community. So how did you know to even check that? We're like, what gave you a sign that he was gay? Okay, let me tell you what he did. Okay. So I walked in the room, no man should have their legs up. Okay? I don't care what anybody tell me. He gone. No man should have their legs up, okay? I don't care what anybody tell me.
Starting point is 01:26:06 He gone. No man should have their legs up and be comfortable like that. He like a little butt action. That don't mean he's gay. But you walked in the room and he had his legs up waiting for you? Or?
Starting point is 01:26:17 I don't know if it was for me. Honestly, I should have put on my cousin clothes to act like I was the man. Dang. Because I didn't know what was happening. Oh, okay. Would you get back with him? No.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Okay. Okay. Alright, well. Well, I'm sorry, mama. Sorry, Keisha. I'm sorry you had to go through that. So, that goes to him. Because he is the father of my child.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Oh! That's different. It's different. It's different. It's different. Y'all got a boy or girl? We got the daughter. Okay, okay. That's okay. Alright. No, it's different. Y'all got a boy or girl? We got a daughter. Okay, okay, that's okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:26:47 No, that's not safe. Okay, thank you. Jesus, we should have asked his name and I ain't gonna put him on the glass like that. Hello, who's this? Tario, Tario, good morning, and we just, Lauren Morgan, how y'all doing, it's Lauren. What's up, Tario?
Starting point is 01:27:01 Who you giving donkey to? I got a double donkey if I could. So one, I wanna give a donkey out to my cousin and her bag of kids. All right, this is what's going on. My mom got a little dog, Annabelle, and then my cousin was misplaced. My mom let him in the house, so they stand up with her and get another son. He's like 10 to 8 years old. Was going to be boys, but he ended up breaking Annabelle's leg. My mom is 70 years old, and she a good Christian woman, but she can't afford to get this dog
Starting point is 01:27:10 out of the house. So I got a little dog, Annabelle, and then my cousin was misplaced. So one, I want to give a donkey out to my cousin and her bag of kids. All right, this is what's going on. My mom got a little dog, Annabelle, and then my cousin was misplaced. My mom let him in the house, so they stand up with her and get another son. He's like 10 to 8 years old. Was going to be boys, but he ended up breaking Annabelle's leg.
Starting point is 01:27:18 My mom is 70 years old, and she a good Christian woman, but she can't afford to get this dog out of the house. So I got a little dog, Annabelle, and then my cousin was misplaced. So they stand up with her and get another son. He's like 10 to 8 years old. Was going to be boys, but he ended up breaking Annabelle's leg. My mom is 70 years old, and she's a good Christian woman, but she can't afford to get surgery done to get it on.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Love it. But you got to go find me page. That's the first part. But I really want to get a donkey to the bad little boy. But if anybody on the platform or listeners, you can go to Cindy. C-I-N-D-Y Burgess. B-U-R-T-E-S-S Brown. And if y'all can help my mom get the dog leg, please. I appreciate it. I threw the guard in the healing bin and she didn't think I was funny.
Starting point is 01:27:59 So I say I'll come to the breakfast club with it. All right, I'm a second donkey. Gonna go to Tooby. Y'all doing great on the TV, but I think y'all the breakfast club with it. Alright, on my second donkey, gonna go to 2B. Man, y'all doing great on the TV, but I think y'all can put more segments in, like the donkey the other day, geared up in chest, just with my mess.
Starting point is 01:28:15 It's more segments that y'all can put into it, so I wanna get 2B the biggest, see how? But not following up. On 2B, it depends who the interview is, so sometimes we do interviews, sometimes we do the segments. There's two different formats, but not follow enough. On 2B it depends who the interview is, so sometimes we do interviews, sometimes we do the segments. There's two different formats,
Starting point is 01:28:28 so definitely salute to 2B and definitely check us. You can watch it on 2B each and every day. Donkey of the Day, 800-585-1051. You can give Donkey of the Day to whoever you want. Now, when we come back, now when Jones was up here, Ms. Jones just joined us, she was talking about some odd jobs she did to pay the bills, right? I tell you that when Jones was up here, Ms. Jones just joined us, she was talking about some odd jobs she did to pay the bills, right? I tell you that when I spoke to her she was doing these surveys and
Starting point is 01:28:50 these surveys would pay her money where she could, you know, pay for her kids food and pay for rent and all this other stuff and she said she would wear a wig so she would go home put on a different wig and then fill out another survey to come home and fill out a wig and it was that tough for her because she gave up music. So we're asking 800-58585-1051 what's the craziest thing you did to make some money? Legal. Well I don't know if that's legal though. But what's the craziest thing you did to make some money? Let's leave it at that. I'll ask you when you come back because I know you did some crazy stuff and she's smiling so I know you must have did some wild stuff. We'll get to it next at the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Pull out, pull out your phone. Call in right now. Call me.
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Starting point is 01:29:39 Tell her, tell her, I made it. It's topic time. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy, we are The Breakfast Club, Lauren LaRosa is here as well. Now if you're just joining us, we interviewed Miss Jones and I was talking to Miss Jones because we haven't spoken in a long time and she was telling me to make money and to make
Starting point is 01:30:04 sure that she was able to feed her kids. She used to do these surveys and to do these surveys, I guess they pay you a certain amount of money to do these surveys and then she would go home, put on a wig and go right back and do it again. And then she would go home and then put on a long wig or red wig and go right back and do it again because she had to make sure she took care of her family. So we're asking 800-585-1051, what's the craziest or weirdest thing you did to make some money? What about you?
Starting point is 01:30:29 See the crazy, there ain't nothing weird that I ever did. Well, you know, I was a sugar baby for a little minute. I was, you know, I was out here with what I had this old guy, right? I had a sugar daddy. How old was he? He was like 65 or 66. Jesus Christ. I was younger, so it was crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:41 I know he probably like 75 or dead now. Yeah, but it was a white dude. He had a lot of money and yet below his waist didn't matter. He was a man of his word. He was a man of his word. He was a man of his word. He was a man of his word. He was younger so it was crazy. I know he probably like 75 or dead now. Yeah, but it was a white dude. A lot of money and yeah below his waist didn't work. He was a he was paralyzed a long long time ago. Yeah. And so I really had to do nothing but work up top. So I was like, okay. And it was like, what work is there to do up top? You know, just kissing, making out, playing with his nipples. You know, like things like that.
Starting point is 01:31:05 He liked things like that. He liked for me to choke him. Like, with like, he would have like, he really liked bondage. He liked all that. Cause nothing worked down the side, but he loved being abused. And I loved it.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Cause he was white, why not? Why did y'all break up? Because I was done, he wasn't about to be my n***a. And he, what? Sorry, I'm just asking. He wasn't gonna be my man or my husband. I grew out of all that money. Once I racked up enough, I was good. You know, I was good. But I know somebody
Starting point is 01:31:32 close to me used to do sleep studies for money. What you mean? Like sleep studies, like yo, like John, they would go to John Hopkins Hospital and let the people play in their brain. They put you to sleep. It's different sleep studies like It's one you like a five-day one You'll be sleep like they'll put you to sleep every day and they've gone to experiment on your brain and they pay you to do It and they make you sign something right? That is like you can sue us if you if this affects you later on down the line Really crazy like people do studies for money. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. Let's go to the phone on I do not create
Starting point is 01:32:05 I just didn't tell a market. That's as crazy as I would that's it. That ain't even that crazy I think you hold back on something. I do nothing. All right. Hello. Who's this? Yeah. Good morning. Good morning D they easy with the word envy easy. What's up, man? What's the craziest thing you did for money? Yo, when I used to live in Fayetteville, I used to sell pizza and sell blood at the same time That was like the main hustle for me down there when I was down there What you mean piece of blood like blood at the same time. That was like the main hustle for me down there when I was down there. What you mean pizza and blood? Like blood on the pizza or separately? No man, not blood on the pizza. Like I was working for Domino's and right after my Domino's shift I would go to the plasma turner and sell all my blood and then I was running that for a while.
Starting point is 01:32:35 I was doing that for a while. How much would they give you for blood? Wow. Yeah, it would be like it would be like $50 every time you go in. So like you would have to wait maybe like an hour, two hours before you could go back in Again, so you go in there numerous times a day No, I think the cap was two times a day the capital two times a day But now that was the hustle and you never passed out like nothing now. I'm a soldier now. I'm selling head wraps You know saying I'm selling brown girl grinding head wraps I'm selling brown girl, brown and head wraps. Hey, hold on, no, because I don't, where's your website?
Starting point is 01:33:06 Oh, everything you can get from, everything you can get is all off my Instagram. He said you might have to pay for that. But I got a head wrap for you and I got a head wrap for the whole crew. I own that, that trademark. Easy, good luck, because Laura's going to sue you. Thank you though. Yeah, she going to win. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 01:33:20 Hi, this is Reese. Hey, Reese, what's the craziest thing you did for some money? OK, so when I was in undergrad, I had a paper route. And I would go to the club. Then I would go pick up my son. And then we would go get the papers. And we would be out until like 5 30 in the morning. Then I would drop him off at daycare.
Starting point is 01:33:42 And I would go to class. A paper route ain't too crazy. No, it's not. A lot of people used to do paper routes. You don't think that's crazy for a whole grown up? People used to laugh at me. Nah, because I see people doing paper route now. What pisses me off about the paper route now
Starting point is 01:33:53 is when y'all throw the papers and it rains and now the paper's all disgusting in front of my lawn. And all that mushy. Besides that, I ain't mad at that. See, back in the day, back in the day, we had little blue bags. Yeah, now I ain't. So your papers wouldn't get wrecked.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Nah, no blue bags now, but that ain't that crazy. Nah. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Stacy again. How you doing? Hey, Stacy, happy pride. Hey, Stacy. Oh my God, here we go.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Okay, so wait, real quick. So I always been like a hustler. Like I always been about my money, even when I was little. So I grew up in Brownsville. I don't know if y'all know about Brownsville, but everybody knows that you don't go in that neighborhood if you don't live there. I used to put up flyers in a building. I used to go to the store called People Choice. I used to pack bags there. They used to pay us to put flyers in the building, right? So that's like the craziest thing I ever did. Now mind you, I never got robbed doing it, but I got robbed like three times in my own neighborhood
Starting point is 01:34:46 So that was very dangerous for me to be but yeah, right because I always been about my money one other thing I just want to touch on a topic about the lady who said that she lost her boyfriend to jack Not that I know anything about it, but jack is a gay ass. It is where we Jack is a gay ass where um is where we drop is a gay after where? they See listen, you know about Jack, you know, you know, you know about You know about poppers. I know about all that I know about all that stuff. Yes. So yes
Starting point is 01:35:27 If y'all ladies want to know if your man is D or Bestie or anything, go on his phone and go on Jack. And if he got a Jack, that's the cake. Okay, here he is. Thank you, Stacy. Thank you, Stacy. Thank you. Yeah, sure, y'all have a great, Jack, you gotta be there Friday, right? Yeah, yeah, sir, I'm gonna be there.
Starting point is 01:35:38 My cupcake's gonna be here? Okay, yeah, no, yes. Listen, I'm baking them Thursday night. I got you. Okay, thank you, baby. All right, no, but thank you. Y'all have a good day Stacey see Friday. Yeah. Now if you just joining us salute to miss Jones She was on the show earlier talking about our job that she had to pay the bills. Let's listen So for Jones to make money
Starting point is 01:35:58 She would do surveys She'd go home on the wig And do the survey again Then go home put on another wig and do the survey again. So she would three different things to get paid to do So we're asking eight hundred five eight five one oh five, what's the odd job you did to make some money now? What about you Lauren? My odd jobs were always like real careers. Like I was a flight attendant, for real I was a flight attendant, I did marketing for
Starting point is 01:36:35 barclays, I was a publicist, I've lived some lives. Yeah like I said I worked for the US Open, I did telemarketing, I ain't do nothing too too crazy. I was a pilot, I did, you know I do nothing too too crazy. I was a pilot I did Hey Isha, what's the crazy thing you did to make some money interview with this place that said it was a spa in downtown Manhattan. It was good money, it was $15 an hour, 2004. When I got there, it was a receptionist job, but it wasn't exactly a spa spa. It was a place where men got enemas. I had to read off a script. They shaved men's underparts. It's Very interesting. Wow, so they had happy endings in there too as well.
Starting point is 01:37:29 I'm figuring that. I wasn't in the room with them, but I'm sure they did. Okay. But you stayed there and got your money though, huh? Period. I did that for like two weeks. Then it got a little uncomfortable because the quality would ask for me.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Oh wow. Yeah, I wasn't into that. That's crazy. Yeah, you ain't trying to do that. Thank you mama. Hello, who's this? It's PC. PC, what's up?
Starting point is 01:37:54 What's the craziest thing you did to make some bread? I worked as a security guard and then they had me start doing videography at a sex club. Where was the sex club? It's in Vegas. On Vegas. So you did security? It's called the Green Door. The Green Door.
Starting point is 01:38:09 What celebrities would be in there? No celebrities, just a bunch of different people out the porno industry. I don't know any of their names. You ever run into the Punisher? Jesus Christ. No. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:38:21 No, it's not. On the video board, we had a couple that used to come in there and do the same thing the guy is like everybody in the club finish on his girl And you were going to a private room see It's a thing. It's a category. It's a fetish Did he's not the only yes, that's what I'm saying. Hello. Who's this? This is tweet and I was just calling to tell you how to crazy think I would be it for money back in my day Well, first of all, I went to a trick town. Hold on. Hold on. First of all, we know your name's not tweet because we got call I'd be I see your name but we're not gonna say
Starting point is 01:38:56 Okay, so what you did to make some money Went to the house money was a little short. I had to make him go upstairs and get his mama and write my check. So wait a minute, you was an escort, the guy paid you but it wasn't enough money so you made him go back in the house and his mama got a check from his mama? Yeah because I wasn't leaving without it and she said well damn how much is she? Well I need all my money. How much you charged him and what you did? Well back then you know that was years ago, that was years ago, 30-40 years ago. How much did you charge him ma'am? Right.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Well he was short 60. I was 160 and he was short 60. How much would you charge him today with inflation? What the answer? How much would you charge him today? You said that was years ago. Oh girl you know what? It ain't no enough. It's too much going on. It ain't no enough now. It ain't no enough. It's too much going on, it ain't no enough now. Ain't no enough. I hope you retire by now, because you would be an old electric. Yes, yes, yes. God is good, look at him. There you go.
Starting point is 01:39:52 All righty, have a good one. All right, y'all too. Wow. What's the ball of the story? Z with you, Y and Z, as long as they don't get you in jail. Have a couple weeks. Y'all look stupid, all right. For real.
Starting point is 01:40:02 When we come back, we got the ladies with Laura. What we talking about We talking about push your tea in the clips cuz he's throwing shots at another rapper and uh, we talked to people yesterday Listen to the lyrics and now we know exactly who we know exactly My little mama he said the lip gloss ain't I saw my little mama Next is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Nogawi on The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight face. Tell us, man! She gets into somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. She be having the latest on this. Is that having the latest on the latest with Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit. Everything is the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me. Okay. So yesterday here on the Breakfast Club, we dropped a worldwide exclusive where we played a new song called So Be It from the clips from their new album Let God Sort Them Out coming on July 11th. Now, and we told y'all yesterday, listen to the lyrics, listen
Starting point is 01:41:10 to the lyrics because Pusha T was taking shots at somebody. Wow, I hit Lil Mami. I said, what did you do to Pusha? Because you heard the lip gloss. What are you talking about? So yeah, now we not, he not talking about Lil Mami. I know y'all was thinking the same thing. No, he's actually talking about Travis Scott. So pushy T is throwing some shots at Travis Scott in that verse Your mic went off your mic one of we got to plug it in I don't know what just happened There you go. Now say something pushy T actually pushy T was talking to
Starting point is 01:41:39 Travis Scott in that verse and he actually sat down and explained why he came at Pusha T in that verse He sat down with the New York Times podcast Popcast let's take a listen to Pusha T. He's shameless. It all came from actually being in Paris paying Through carrying the you know, the utopia briefcase He comes he he interrupts the the the session the day, the meltdown verse or whatever comes on. You know? Yeah, yeah. Talking about melting Pharrell's jewelry.
Starting point is 01:42:10 Yeah, and all of that. That was a corny, like you shouldn't have been here anyway. And then to like, you know, to come back in our fold. To make a point of. Yeah, to invade the fold and then, you know, do all that he did was like, man, I was corny. He's shameless He does it you've seen him do it to everybody
Starting point is 01:42:28 I've definitely had to put my hand on your shoulder before you died in front of me You cried in front of me Calabasas took your bitch and your pride in front of me I had to help you people take that type of granted Yeah, so he said he felt away. Um, so it down for layman's terms, Travis Scott allegedly played Pusha T&M, his project, his album, and didn't play that Drake verse. Yes. Then the next day they're saying that the Drake verse came out and it was like, bro, we just played the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:42:58 You never played this and I thought we was cool. Yes. And Pusha does what Pusha does. He felt away. Now the Drake's, I mean the Drake, the verse specifically he's talking about is from Meltdown and the reason why he fought the way is because Drake not only took a shot at Pusha T in that, but he took a shot at Fyrwell. Let's take a listen.
Starting point is 01:43:14 But in that verse that y'all just heard from Drake, he's referencing the nerd chains and different chains that he wore in the Jumbotron video that were previously Pharrell's. He said he melted them down. Yeah, he melted them down. Now Pusha T also talked to GQ about this because when the verse came out and people started to pick up on the fact that he was talking about Travis,
Starting point is 01:43:31 people of course started saying, well, Pusha T does this every time he drops music. And specifically when Pusha T talked to GQ, he said, it's not about him, he said, it's not about him, you know, trying to do things for shot value. He said for the last couple years, he's only been wearing clothes. You know, basically I don't bother nobody.
Starting point is 01:43:50 But he said, it's like, you know, people go out of their way. And then you do something like meltdown and you bring it to our house where you play it for Pharrell. You play it for me and my brother, him and Malice were in the LV studio headquarters. And y'all leave off a verse. And then it's like basically like you're playing in our face type of thing. So we don't bother y'all don't bother us and don't bring that home.
Starting point is 01:44:11 Like we, we, he said, I got away from Kanye. I got away from all the goofy things that y'all involved and dodge yourselves in. But when it comes to you firing at my camp, I don't take it lightly. And I think, go ahead. And I also think there was an old way of doing stuff, right? The old way of doing stuff was you only when you clap back at somebody you clap back on your own album, your own project. You didn't step out of your realm to do it and that's what I think is doing it because
Starting point is 01:44:33 it brings anticipation to the album, the project and now what? I can't wait to hear the whole album. Yeah. 100%. Because he's shooting. Oh yeah he's definitely shooting. Do we have our next clip in for the next story? Yes. Okay, great Oh god is good. So this just happened
Starting point is 01:44:50 We okay, so Angie Martinez. She has her in real life podcast shot the energy. Yes that errors on her YouTube channel Her Angie Martinez YouTube channel and today at noon Eastern Standard Time. She going to be dropping a interview with Angela Simmons. Angela Simmons announces on that podcast that her and Yoh Gadi are no longer together. Let's take a listen. Angela Simmons, are you telling me right now you're in your single girl era again? Not my choice, but you know, I respect them. It's all love. It's not your choice?
Starting point is 01:45:20 I wouldn't have chose it, but it was what was best, but I wouldn't have chose it. No. What are you saying to me right now? Angela Simmons? I'm saying that I'm a lover. I love love. I love relationships. This man proclaimed that he wanted to get with Angela Simmons. This man like pursued you. So you're not telling me that he, that he ended, did he end the relationship or did?
Starting point is 01:45:40 No, it was my choice. You know, I just, I had to make a decision. Was it heartbreaking, mom? Yeah. It's hard. I feel like for me, you were, I just I had to make a decision was it heartbreaking mom Yeah, it's hard I feel like for me you were relationships cuz I get really invested like it when I'm in love I'm in love like which means I got I'm staying with you But yeah, my feelings, you know, it didn't feel good to not do it to not be with him Damn yo, I know so they broke up. Yes
Starting point is 01:46:02 And again that interview you call Angie my As if she wanted that part put out there did you just feel it like you stole everything else? Oh, no, no, no Angie Martinez is the icon not that the clips are not but you handle that differently than you hand you in Do you handle Angie Martinez? I did make the cause to not mean maybe not even her but to who I need to talk to to make sure that you know This was a fair like they knew what was happening giving people heads up because up because this is- Don't let Angie come out of retirement and have to give two piece shoes. I'm just going to let you know that. She will come up paying two piece shoes if she comes out of retirement. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:46:30 We do things correctly here at the latest with Lauren LaRosa and the Breakfast Club. But make sure you guys go and listen to that interview in full because there have been these like cryptic things that have been happening, right? Like Angie, not Angie, Angela Simmons had posted, I want what wants me in life in all areas with flows, flows with goals, goals to her Instagram. People were like, wait, are they broken up? Yo, Gotti took a trip to, I believe it was a London he took a trip to and we didn't see her. Y'all know they always together and they're like, wait, did they break up? So now she's actually sitting down and talking about it.
Starting point is 01:46:58 And I think a lot of us were so happy for them, right? Yeah, like that, yo, he had a crush on her and he chased her like he won her and she finally gave him a chance and then What happened? Oh, no, you don't mean well, you know what happened, dude You gotta find out on is it on is it gonna be on the interview the full interview on Angie Martinez YouTube? Uh, you have to watch to see I have heard your mouth rumblings, but we won't get into it here, but well, yeah We'll hear what's right. You're crazy. Well, you're gonna wear rumblings. Oh, yeah, we'll take it. We'll watch the interview Learn to go too far sometimes you gotta pull it back. Got a real back in. Thank you All right. Now that was the latest with Lauren Paul McCartney birthday
Starting point is 01:47:39 Name a Paul McCartney song come on. You always don't want him in Michael Jackson damn girl is mine What a dog damn girl is mine, or the doggone girl is mine. Ain't that Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson? That is Paul, yes, it is Paul McCartney. You thought she didn't know. But that's an easy one for Michael Jackson. All right, now when we come back, we got the People's Choice Mix, it's the Breakfast Club. Come on.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Wake up, wake up, you're locked into the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Now tomorrow, Juneteenth, shout to everybody that's doing Juneteenth celebrations. Lauren and myself will be hosting a panel at the American Dream Mall in Jersey. And then tomorrow evening afternoon I'm going to Queens, Roy Wilkins Park in Queens, they're
Starting point is 01:48:21 having a huge celebration, they're expecting like 8-10,000 people. It's all free so come on out. They're expecting like eight to 10,000 people. It's all free, so come on out. They're gonna have free rides. It's all free, all free DJs, music, and just a good time, just a great celebration. And I'm bringing a bunch of special guests for my DJ set to perform for everybody out there. So I wanna salute to everybody in Queens.
Starting point is 01:48:42 I don't wanna say the names of the people performing because there's so many people coming and yeah Just in case somebody doesn't come I don't want to say this person and this person comes and this person this person comes But it's gonna be a huge celebration a lot of New York artists a lot of artists more all over the place that are gonna be Coming up to perform so get there early. We'll have a good time and it's all free all in fun. All right Now just this weekend where you at? I'm a, New York y'all at the helium comedy club. We got two shows on Friday, two shows on Saturday. Get your tickets at Jessalaria's official dot com.
Starting point is 01:49:10 They are going fast. I think Saturday is already sold out for the second show, the late show and I will be doing meet and greet at every late show. So that's the nine thirty show on Saturday and the nine o'clock show on Friday. Yeah, get your tickets. Can't wait to see you Buffalo All right And also this week and I'm gonna be in Canada Winnipeg on Friday Saturday Albany. So salute to everybody in Albany
Starting point is 01:49:31 I can't wait to see you guys now Jess you got a positive note I do if you got to do something strange for a piece of change don't feel bad What? Because people got to do strange things for money. And they shouldn't feel bad about it. It's about the mental health is what she was saying. Yeah, because it's also men's mental health month. And if they all here popping it because they need it, they need some money, what else you expect for them to do?
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