The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Weezy and Mandii B Cohosts, Eboni K Williams Chimes In, Donkey Of The Day and More!

Episode Date: May 4, 2023

Today we are joined by our celebrity cohosts Weezy and Mandii B. Eboni K Williams also comes through to clarify her previous statements. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Honestly, that's most of our Whore Hives. Whores, they're the doctors, they're the lawyers, they're the front line workers. They be hoeing. Every day working class people. Every day working class people. Every day. That's right. Well, good morning, ladies.

How y'all feeling? Feeling good. Feeling great. It's early. Gosh. A little bit. Well, good morning, ladies. How y'all feeling? Feeling good. Feeling great. It's early. Gosh. A little bit. I ain't going to hold you. I quit my job right before the pandemic, so I haven't gotten back to jobs.

I haven't gotten up this early in a long time. I thought y'all been quit y'all job. That's what I'm saying. Before the pandemic. Are you listening? No. I thought they quit way before that. No.

2019, I quit. Wow. I thought y'all quit in like 2017. I quit in 2018 Or something like that Okay okay okay I was taking I had a sugar daddy to help Oh Jesus

Well yesterday I went to Why does my mic sound like that? Wait mine too I'm like Do I sound hollow? Dude Like we in the closet

Okay there we go Now we sound like We in the closet Yeah I went to sleep yesterday At 3.30pm And I woke up this morning At 4am Damn you get that?

Wow. I was sick. I was feeling under the weather. My throat was hurting. I was passed right out. Now, listen, we just had to get tested. You get tested. I know you come up in there every day.

All right, now. I got six kids. I test every other day. I know that's right. COVID test, STD test. Every time I have to wait for a result, I feel like I'm going to have a panic attack. Right? I didn't feel sick at all walking in here.

But once I did that swab, I was like, well. If they gave you an STD test, you in the wrong building You went to the wrong place Any test freaks me out Quizzes just anything And so when I was taking that COVID test today She put that swab in my nose I'm literally sitting there thinking of all the suspects Who the hell I been around

What happens when you fail a COVID test nowadays Because it's not like back in the day when they send you home And everybody got to leave the building. You probably take a second one. They'd be like, well, maybe something went wrong. You go to a club. I think somebody's just still trying to make money off COVID tests because don't nobody abide by those COVID rules.

We're about to have COVID ibuprofen soon, bro. Like 1,000%. That's the evolution of COVID. Remember how we were in the wiping boxes phase? We're not there no more. Y'all wearing masks on the plane still? No. You know what, though?

I do sometimes just because I feel like Asians were always on to something. I was just about to say the only place I see the masks still is the nail salons, but they was doing that thing before COVID. That's fumes. Oh, is that why they wear that? Yeah, the fumes. What about when they wear them at the airport, too? They don't wear that at the airport.

They do it at the airport. There ain't no fumes at the airport. And you'd be like, well, who do you know that I don't that? Yeah, the fumes. What about when they wear them at the airport too? They don't wear that at the airport. They don't wear that at the airport. There ain't no fumes. And you'd be like, what do you know that I don't know? That's right. They've been getting their Michael Jackson on. Masks, gloves. They've been doing that. All right.

Well, today is Throwback Thursday, and we got a real player playing from the Himalaya. Oh, a couple of them. That's right. The Isley brothers will be joining us this morning. That's right. Wow. Ron Isley and his brother, Eugene? Ernie. Ernie. I know it began with an E. Yes. Ron Isley and his brother, Eugene? Ernie.

Ernie. I know it began with an E. Yes. I know it began with an E. Is that the one suing Ryan or whatever? No, that's the other brother. That's the other brother. There's nobody knowing now.

He ain't getting no attention. Did y'all talk to them about that? We did. Okay, good. Briefly. Real briefly. Oh, yeah. Shout out to them, though.

He turned into Mr. Biggs on Charlamagne with Charlamagne Ashton. He did a little bit. A little bit. He did a little bit. He loved getting mad at you, and I enjoyed it. He wasn't mad. I loved it though He turned into Mr. Biggs on Charlamagne with Charlamagne Ashton He did a little bit He did a little bit He loved getting mad at you And I enjoyed it He wasn't mad He wasn't mad He just

He had no words No I mean people in totality Like I was watching the Sukihana clip Where she was going off on you about saying something I'm like I want a collection of people going off on Charlamagne And you just It's online It's on Twitter

It's on Twitter It's online It goes viral every other month Has anyone ever made you sweat? Or is it just your job not to sweat? No. Not really. Not sweat.

Sweat means I think something's wrong. You're nervous? Nah. Maybe Nelly. I was about to say, you just said Nelly on Gilly and Wallow. No, but that's a different question. That was, I think, who would put hands on me. That was Nelly.

Yeah, but made me sweat now. Yeah, y'all are actually like the same height, so it might be an even fight. No, Nelly. No? Nelly got him by a couple inches like the same height, so it might be an even fight. No. No? Nelly got him by a couple inches? Nelly would have took that one. Oh. Okay. That would have been a long day.

Not even Birdman? Nah. All true, y'all. I would have had to help, too. I probably would have got washed, too, but that's all right. All right. Let's get the show cracking. Front Page News is next.

That's right. We figure we'll be joining us. We got a lot to talk about. Yes. I should move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning on BET. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Charlemagne, the guy.

We are the Breakfast Club. We got our guest co-host from Horrible Decisions. Mandy. We in the building, y'all. I try to do the Envy inflection. That's it. I heard it. Let's get in some front page news.

We have Tezlin Figaro here. Good morning, Tez. The hood whisperer. Good morning. Good morning, Tez. The Hood Whisperer. Good morning. Good morning, DJ Envy Charlamagne and Mandy B and Weezy in the building. That's right. Well, let's start off with some sports. It's going to be a lit day today, by the way.

It is. Y'all get the list. They already turned up. We're not going to say. We got the list. Why is everybody telling us about this list? I never seen them put the list right in front of somebody. Right in front of y'all.

They kept it right here. I just want y'all no words you cannot say don't say don't say well let's start off with sports last night the Celtics beat the 76ers 121 87 did you watch the game anybody I feel come on time one one let's go me too what's your team I ain't gonna tell you because I'll be knowing some people not flavor of the week team you feel me she'll be like well I like the clippers today for the last 60 days two months well tess let's jump right into atlanta so there was another shooting in atlanta yeah and this is i hate bringing this type of news but it is you know an important

story that is happening and it is still developing so some things may change throughout the day so i'll just do a quick recap for those that did not catch it. Yesterday, Wednesday, 24-year-old Dion Patterson was at a medical facility with his mother. He was seeking treatment after being dissatisfied with care that he was receiving from the Department of Veteran Affairs. He became agitated and used his handgun to open fire, which resulted in one person dead, four people injured. Now, yesterday, downtown Atlanta was in shelter in place for most of the day but before the evening ended I think around 7 o'clock 730, somewhere around that time he was apprehended in Cobb County in a condominium complex. Now also on the floor Georgia Senator Warnock provided a powerful speech on the Senate floor.

Let's take a listen and we'll talk about it on the other side. I think that the unspoken assumption is that this can't happen to me. But with a mass shooting every day, the truth is the chances are great. I shudder to say it, but the truth is, in a real sense, is only a matter of time. You know, Taz, I'd be wondering in situations like this, if these are, you know, people who are pulling up like this if these are uh you know people who are pulling up the places with the intent of shooting multiple people or is this people who have like beef with one person see their op and then some innocent bystanders get hit and then they call it a mass shooting like what is this well in this particular case and you know i'm a veteran and so i don't want to justify this in any any way. But I do want to say that this gentleman got one, a gentleman.

This this man got out of the military earlier this year. His mother said that in the in the press conference yesterday, the police said they don't want to confirm any motive or not. But his mother did say that he was suffering with some behavior issues. And because we also know that on the New York subway yesterday, that Marine, which we'll talk about later on this evening, but he also was a veteran. So I just kind of want to point out that 44 percent to 72 percent of veterans do experience high levels of stress during transition from military to civilian life. One point three million veterans go uninsured nationwide. So it looks like that this is an issue that he was having with some type of medical know medical treatment that he was not receiving and he just it just looks like he snapped but again not making assumptions they said that it's still

developing they want to get more into it but the reason why I pulled that clip on only a matter of time you guys remember last month when I told you my best friend lives in Atlanta she's a teacher and remember I told you that her daughter goes to Oklahoma University and they did a shelter in place. So this was so close to me because her son goes to college in Atlanta. So within one month, she's had two children, two college children that have had to shelter in place, one in OU, one that went to college in Atlanta, and she's a school teacher. So every day she goes to school on high alert so just the anxiety of when she called me just in tears and it's like how can you have two incidents two different children a

thousand miles away having to shelter in place and still got to go to school in the morning wondering if it could be you so when senator warnock said uh it's only a matter of time i just feel like it's closing in on us guys like getting closer and closer i will say this though and not to say that that it's it's it's that it should have happened that he should have shot anybody but when it comes to those vets i understand man they go overseas and they risk their lives for our country for our freedom then they come back and they're treated like dirt and they just made a recent they made a movie on it uh a couple of about a year ago i seen it on the plane the other day was the same situation the vet came home he needed his money he couldn't get his money and he was homeless at the bank yes and i understand because

think about it they fight for our country they can die they put their life on the line and we come home and we and we treat them like our government treats them like ish and in test that's something that's real that i never thought about uh it's something we don't talk about enough is there some type of halfway house for people who just came home home from the military just came home from war feels like they need some type of treatment before they get back into society. There's not. So both of my siblings, my brother and my sister, they're both army vets. One served in Iraq,

went over in Iraq right after 9-11 and my sister just got back. She did South Korea, she did Germany, she's done seven years and now she's just back in school and they both just went right back into work, right back into civilian life and so there hasn't been really any therapy for her to talk about. And she's went through things that she's like, I can't tell you.

I can't talk to you guys about it. Isn't it crazy how you could almost walk onto an airplane, you get the pre-board, and you get all these little special things everywhere else, but from your own government, you don't. That's right. That's right. Well, thank you, Tez. We'll see you in a couple minutes. Thanks, Tez.

All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051'll see you in a couple minutes. Thanks, Tez. Absolutely. All right, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? What's up, DJ Andy? This is Uber Mike Dallas How y'all doing? Uber Mike, what's up, man? Get it off your chest

What up, Mike? Hey, let me get it off my chest Hey, I want to send a public announcement to your listeners Parents and fellow drivers Stop picking up these kids with Uber If they're not 18, they should not be riding Uber or Lyft Alright, Uber Mike, I ain't go front. When my son was 17, I definitely put him in an Uber, too, every once in a while when I had to, though.

I ain't going to lie. Sometimes he had to get to practice. I had to throw him in an Uber. DJ Envy, I understand that, but it puts us at risk because if I get into an accident with your child, I lose everything. I didn't think about that. And the ride share companies are not telling the drivers this. They're not telling them that. So I tell the parents,

stop ordering a ride for your kids. They're not 18. They're not riding. I mean, that's a good thing because I definitely didn't know that. Let me ask you a question. How much does Uber and Lyft take?

What percentage do they take from you? About 55, 60%. 55, 60%. So you only make 40% of your ride. But DJ Andy, I have engineered something That works for me or whatever Because I know like

Different venues Comedy shows Baseball games I know how to move So I'm going to make my money With less time Yeah I still think it's crazy That they take 60%

When it's your car Your gas And that's a lot That's a lot I think but It is a lot I get it But we appreciate you brother

Is your Uber always clean, man. No problem. Oh, man, I drive a Prius, Salome. I ain't ask you about no Prius. You always talk about you want a Prius. That's why he said it. See that? Look at you.

Definitely give me a Prius. Right. Definitely give me a Prius. 615 miles in one tank of gas. Listen, there's an age limit on Uber. I know there's an age limit on Uber. 17. Yeah, you got to be 18 to hold them.

18 years and up. I did not know that. Yeah, I used to, when my son had practice and I wasn't home, I would send him to practice in the Uber because I wasn't there. You know, it's only like a on Uber? 17. Yeah, you got to be 18 and older. I did not know that. Yeah, I used to, when my son had practice and I wasn't home, I would send him to practice in the Uber because I wasn't there. You know, it's only like

a 10 minute drive. How do they know if you're 18 or not? They call you? They don't. They don't. So that's why he's giving a warning. But when they get in the car, they can look at the kid

and be like, you're not of age. Gotcha. And then my son be like, yeah, I am, I'm 18. And you can't question it. I wonder who would be liable in a situation like that.

That's what he would. He just said he would. Really? Even if the parent put them in the car knowing that they were underage? Yep. I guess it would be the parent's profile, right?

Mm-hmm. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is Jazz. This is Charlotte. What's going on? What's happening this morning? Hey, man, this is Jazz calling from out of Virginia Beach. I just wanted to give a shout-out to all the single moms.

I'm a first-time mom, and it is hard. It is hard. It is hard. It's like, doing it by yourself, it's a lot. And I just wanted to tell that story. Why did baby daddy not in your life? What happened? No, I actually went through a sperm bank, and I wanted to have a baby.

I've been trying for three years. I'm actually gay, so I don't like men. She's gay. Oh, got you. Yeah, I'm gay, yeah. So I went to a farm, don't have any. Because I really want to have my own child. Did you get a white man or black man or Asian or Spanish?

No, sir. I have a black donor. My son is very handsome. Oh, so you got a, do you have a baby mama? Do you have a, what do y'all call that? I don't know what you, do you have a baby mama? What do y'all call that? I don't know. Do you have a significant other? There you go.

No, no, no. I'm doing it all by myself. I have my family, but it's really just me. Okay. Congratulations. All right. Thank you. Thank you.

Who you got today? Mandy and Weezy. There's just some hoes in his house. Oh, how y'all doing? How y'all doing? How y'all doing? You know, so, yeah. You said he was handsome. Hold on, real quick. If he handsome, do you get his info

later? Like, how you get the... We want to know what he look like. What's up with him? He's a baby. No, no, no. The sperm donor. Oh, the sperm donor. If the baby's handsome, that must have been some good sperm. Oh, my goodness. It really was.

It really was. On Facebook, they have this place called Black Sperm Donor. Black Sperm Donor. Hold on. You got your sperm from Facebook? From Facebook. Oh, boy. Yes, I did.

Wait, did they ship it to you? How does it work? It's a group on Facebook called Black Sperm. There's a whole bunch of Black sperm donors on there. And that's where you can vet them out and everything. How come nobody told Debrack? No one told Debrack. Thank you, mama.

I don't think that's medical. I think she just went to a site and it's just semi-Black sperm. It's just mad Black sperm. And it's just a whole bunch of men just... There's a man in Europe that recently got banned from giving sperm because he had 550 kids. Oh, I know. To find him if he even wanted to donate anymore. But that's it. Because think about it. What if you live

in a small town? You know what I'm saying? All the kids look like you? Not even that. I'm definitely going to f*** one of my cousins. My brother's like, ew. That's one of the words on the list. Look at the words on the list. She's one of the words on the list. Look at the words on the list. I'm sorry. She said she couldn't do quizzes.

She literally... That's why she put a bunch on somebody. That's what I should have said. I want to make scissors with people. She said she was bad with quizzes, so you got to look over that list one more time. Put your glasses on. We should have talked about sperm this early.

What did you think was going to happen? Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest.

800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. I just decided to buy a piece of property. You might be in little correct me. Well, congratulations, brother. That's what we do up here, man. We try to push people to better themselves, whether it's mentally, you know, financial, wealth, whatever it may be.

But that's a great thing. And maybe I will stop through one of these days. Come on, ownership. Yeah, man. I'm waiting for you. DJ to DJ, man. I'm looking for you to pull up. Love, brother.

All right. No problem. What's up, yo? Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. Now, when we come back, we got your rumor report. And since my lady, some horrible decisions are here. Oh, Lord.

We're going to be talking golden showers. No kink shaming. I'm not. Okay? Thank you. I hear the judgmentalness in your voice already. I am not. Your voice did get high.

My voice always gets high. You're black and yellow, so you should be resonating with this kind of material. But the golden shower, she said, you color a dirty urine. Damn. She didn't say dirty urine. She didn't say that. She just said urine. Yeah, but.

I don't know if that was a compliment. You can drink some more water, yeah. All right. Get it off your chest. Rumors on the way. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Yes. We got our special guest co-host from Horrible Decisions. Hey. On the Black Effect Network. Y'all heard it.

There you go. Hey. All right, let's get to the rumors. Let's talk golden showers. Rumor has it. Rumor. Rumor has it. Call out a name or you gossiping or you chatty-pattin'. All right, here's how God works rumors. Let's talk golden showers. Rumor has it. Rumor. Rumor has it. Call out a name or you gossiping or you chatty.

All right, here's how God works. This is the rumor report. I mean, I guess we on The Breakfast Club. This is where the tea spills, right? Right. On The Breakfast Club. It's crazy how God works. We have Mandy and Weezy from Horrible Decisions here.

And there's actually a golden shower story in the news. You can't play in this kind of stuff. You can't. Now, why would you think that God wanted that? God created all of this, by the way. He did. Listen, we didn't invent it. God sure did. See, I'm looking at the words.

R where you put it. P, R where you put it. I'll tell you this. When we first started the show, I remember Mandy was the first that told her encounter with P, her golden shower story. Oh, yeah. I do the golden shower thing. Whoa, Mandy. Let's tell the story. Oh, go ahead. Let's talk about it. We'll get to that. Actually, it has to do with Diddy. thing. Whoa, Mandy, let's tell a story. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Let's talk about it. Give me a rumor report first.

We'll get to that. Actually, it has to do with Diddy. Didn't he want to mix it with Ciroc? Oh, right. Hold on. No, no, no, no. Now, wait a minute. That's a new flavor, Ciroc. Hit the intro.

Oh, we played it already. I've never heard that Ciroc flavor. You got me confused and flustered. Y'all know MVP flustered when we get into the kink talk. All right, so go ahead. So what happened with Diddy and Ciroc and me? No, tell the real, tell the real. No, I'm going to hear this more.

Well, basically, this is also coming from, as you guys know, Carisha sat down with D. Jason Lee on the Jason Lee Show, where he asked a question about if she's really into golden showers, because she shared that on her podcast, Carisha, Please. She did also end up just saying she just liked to say stuff we'll clear it up here they got the report you like golden showers did you have you on did you see maybe but do you really like to get on i just be saying you be saying it was a part of my card game i gotta promote my

y'all better go get these richard roulette cards baby i'm gonna spice it up like what because there's nothing sexual about getting p***ed on. I mean, people got their sexual desires. It's a lot of s*** that it's just like, I don't like to swallow c***. But you swallow. But you're not a swallower? Mm-mm. Why?

I mean, it's definitely. I don't have the way it tastes. And I feel like I'm not going to swallow any of this c***. You just need to tell your man to eat different. It don't taste like nothing. Not only in my mouth, no. Mm- mouth no you don't like a man to call you no i do i would just like being funny what is this now what happened first off she said she don't like how it tastes ladies if your man has a bad taste tell him to change his diet

like more fruit yeah more than just more something that ain't what he also ruins it uh well not pee i'm talking about something else what was that donut talking about semen thank you watching my words no like i remember dating a dude that had a lot of vitamins creatine supplements and i was like gee it was like it was acidic too much it smelled like pennies and iron and i felt all the vitamins coming out so what happened with the yellow dots hold on one second just if you're out there driving right now yes sorry you might want to change, turn it down a little bit if you have young kids in the car. Because I don't know where this conversation is about to go. I was about to say, how do you think they got here?

What's the yellow dot? The kids need to know how they got here. It's called science. That is true, too, though. So what happened with you and yellow dot? Okay, so she actually confused. Yellow dot. There's no yellow dot.

Nah, she actually confused the story about squirting with the golden showers. Okay, all right. But you know what? Okay. I'm not on the list. Yellow dot. Yellow dot. actually confused the story about squirting with the golden showers no uh i mean golden showers it's funny that she said that there's nothing sexual about it with a lot of kinks um intercourse doesn't have to take place for someone to be aroused by it um golden showers was introduced to me i had a partner that wanted me to do it to him it took me a long time psychologically. Sex, again, is a lot more psychological than it is physical. That's true.

In the realm of a lot of things. And for whatever reason, this is what he wanted. And it took me forever to do it. Like, so I had to go sit on... Stage fright, man. Yeah, it was stage fright. I had to go sit on the toilet, act like I was going to pee on the toilet, then hold my pee and go back over to the shower. Because he was laid out in the shower

because we didn't want to wet the bed up. Now that's class. Doesn't that kill the vibe though? What kills the vibe? You run to the toilet and then you got to run back? Have you ever had sex in the shower? Yes. Okay, so you're in an element to be kinky.

And if you like getting peed on, I don't think nothing can kill you. Yes, you're right. Come on. I don't like that Carisha said there's nothing sexual about it. So what? I'm platonically just peeing on, I don't think nothing can kill you. I guess you're right. You know, I don't like that Carisha said there's nothing sexual about it. So what? I'm platonically just peeing on it? I don't really like that. Platonically peeing on people? Like, what's up, girl?

Oh, hell no. I better be mean. What's up? Now, I will say, we talked about the taste of semen earlier. This is great, talking about taste of semen with you guys. It's almost a weekend, whatever. Because I'm sure y'all have tasted your own, because that's what men should do as well.

However, when it comes to pee. Wait, you guys should table this. Y'all have never tried it? No. First of all, if we did, that'd be a hell of a rumor for Rumor Report. No, that never happened why why would you be like uh can i say this uh put man milk in my hand i can say that and then lick it just to try it okay so it never just shot up in your face on accident no all right all right anyways back to that kind of screen all right back to science

that's a lot of volume, by the way. I will say that's one of the things that you have to do as well. You want to make sure your bladder is full if this is something that you're going to do. But also drinking a lot of water. Because pee, of course, if you're not drinking or you're not hydrated, then there is a smell, there's a color. That's not great. Why didn't this turn into a pee-pee tutorial?

I mean, we're bringing the science to it. I will tell y'all this, though. The good thing about being a... A tinkle tutorial. What happened? I'm sorry, BET. I don't know. First of all, we're supposed to be helping people.

You said no kink shaming, didn't you? That's true. That is true. And you kind of shaming over there. So the good thing is, and I only learned this from when I was trying to pass the drug test at my corporate job. I was like, let me get this weed out. Literally, you could drink, I think it's like 32 ounces of water,

and right after that, you'll literally turn clear. You just have to drink it within a two-hour time frame. Oh, so you applied that to now peeing on people. Hello? I ain't going to hold you. The one shocker, if y'all have not done it yet, it's hot. Now, I know the body is hot. I forgot how hot pee is hot, baby.

So if it's cold, if it is in the wintertime, you might want to do it in the wintertime, especially if you're in New York City. That is true. And, yo, heat ain't hit on you. I know they control it with the building. I felt like that when I first heard Young Miami say that. I'm like, it's too hot to be doing that in Florida. Especially in Florida.

Yeah, you're right. All right. All right, guys. I didn't think that. I really didn't think that. That was another story we'll get to later. We'll get to it later We'll get to it later Plies

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Ladies Look into some Natural resources For getting your smell right. We'll talk about that next time. We'll talk about that next time. Oh. Next hour.

Oh, Jesus Christ. All right. Spent too much time on pee. My bad, y'all. All right. Guess who's going to keep us at VST? We're going to use the bathroom. Well, if you're listening, we have front page news next.

And the Isley Brothers will be joining us. So you can turn your radio back on. I promise we won't be doing no kink shame or anything with the Isley Brothers. Right? Yeah, because pee ain't contagious. I don't think so. No, I don't think so. So they don't pee every day? Who knows brothers, right? Yeah, because pee ain't contagious. So they don't pee every day? Who knows what they into? Oh my goodness. Alright. Front page news next.

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Witnesses said that he was yelling, I don't have food, I don't have anything to eat, and I'm fed up. So things quickly escalated. 24-year-old Marine tried to subdue him by putting him in a chokehold and held him down so long that, unfortunately, he lost his life. Now, this 24-year-old was brought in for questioning, but no charges have been filed as of now, and activists are very upset by it. You guys have saw on social media, people have been talking about it. I know some activists have been developing protests around this and really, you know, trying to demand that there's some type of justice. The mayor's office did release a statement as well, saying that there are serious mental health issues in play here and that this is why it's important that they continue to make investments in mental health. And just, you know, again, we talked about this earlier in the show about veterans and the inability that a lot of them have to transition in civilian life. So, again, this was a Marine that was also recently released from the military.

And again, I'm not advocating saying that, oh, that was justifiable or he shouldn't have did that. But just as a veteran myself, I just want to remind people that we cannot get enough resources to help a military veteran's transition mentally. Now, this is, again, I'm not assuming that he had a mental issue or anything like that. I just think it's a great conversation to have. I mean, clearly it was something wrong. You know what I mean?

I don't think you just wake up in the morning and decide you're going to choke somebody out if they weren't doing anything to you. I would love to get more details, though, because one of the reasons why I don't ride the train and i will never ride the train and my daughter goes to school in new york city and i don't don't allow her to ride the train is because as a kid i would have to take the train to go to the city to go to work and i've seen so many things on the train i seen people get their face slashed i've seen uh people attack people on the train so i'm very

wary about the train and i always think about if somebody attacks me on the train or does something where i feel like my life is in jeopardy what am i gonna do so like that's why i tell people make sure we get the full facts of what happened before we make a a judgment call because that's true sometimes on that train it happens everything you just said right your life is in jeopardy when you get into a car your life is in jeopardy when you go to the mall when you go to a store your kids when they go to school so to me being not a new york native from florida having been on the train and rode it going to work every day six train all the way down to me you see homeless people on the train you ignore them i don't think i've ever feared for my life so for him to him for him to put him in a chokehold

to where he lost his life, I don't think that that's how that could have or should have been handled. I mean, even throwing food. I've seen stuff like that. What do you do? You get in another car. I mean, roll your eyes.

That's almost like the plight of a New Yorker dealing with somebody like that. Like I said, I don't know. I saw the video, though. What happened in the video? Yeah, I just saw the video. What happened? From what we can see from the video,

and again, story's still developing, so what I watched in the video, that guy did hold him in a chokehold, not necessarily for a long period of time. And you could literally see, and again, going back, and this is a Marine, and I don't mean to talk about certain branches of the military, but just again, as a veteran, there is a lot of veterans have this. I'm going to rush in and, you know, and and save the day or I'm going to rush in and stop the situation. And from what it appears, this guy was not a threat. And he held him down, you know, and just literally choked him out. Was he bothering anybody? Was the guy bothering anybody? He was yelling like that. He was fed up. Everybody was bothering somebody in New York.

Everybody. But he was hungry. Exactly. So yelling is not a reason to put somebody on the ground and restrain him and choke him out, you know, for an extended period of time. I mean, you could literally see him choke the life out of him. What's crazy, though, if that's the case, you know, not one person intervened. Like, I understand folks want to mind their business and you really don't know what's going on. But nobody, like.

So that's what New Yorkers don't do new yorkers don't intervene nobody told them to stop like no they were they were helping hold them down they were intervening helping them hold them down nobody was intervening and saying okay that's enough you got them you know so that's why i said is there more to the story because yes the little clip i seen there was a couple people on them are holding them down which seems like it seems weird you know what i mean that's why i said i didn't know that part man maybe there's more to the story i don't know but like i said remember my wife got slashed in the face or some wild so when it comes to people i don't play with people people don't play with me leave me alone i'll leave you alone but if you come in

my space i'm gonna defend myself to a point where i don't because i don't know what you have on you but what's your space is your space considered the train car if i'm sitting in my chair don't sitting in my chair, don't come over me, around me, touch me, nowhere near me. That's how I feel. But why put your hands on? For me, I leave. Do not walk away. Even if I'm walking down the street and I see people arguing, I'd be like, let me go the other way. I've seen people on a train follow people to other cars.

I've seen wild stuff on the train. The reason why I don't take trains. But I don't know what happened in this case, though. That's what I'm saying. I don't have all the information. Yeah, I don't have it all. That's what I'm saying. I wish we could get all the information to see what actually happened before everybody. I don't even think

the guy was charged. No, he hasn't been. Let's also keep in mind what color he was. What color was he? White. And it's a black man that he choked to death. Yeah. A white man choked at a black man. I didn't know that it was more than one person holding him down. When you say that, it makes me wonder, well, what else happened?

I think there was a total of three people. Let's just keep in mind, if there was a black Marine that was choking out a white homeless man, do you not think he'd be charged by now? Absolutely. Absolutely. I don't know. Again, these stories happen, and then we don't have all the facts yet. I'll definitely stay on top of this and see what's going on.

But just from what I could see, what they were spreading around on social media, he certainly held him down for a long period of time. And it just kind of reminds me just as a as a side note. You remember when I came to the Breakfast Club and was advocating years ago for Donald Neely. Remember the mental illness guy? Yeah. Remember? And he and his this guy's name is Jordan Neely. So it just kind of reminded me and they put a rope around Donald Neely's neck and paraded him through Galveston, Texas, for those who are not familiar with that story. But it just reminds me again, here we are again.

How do we deal with our mentally ill Americans, and how do we fix that? And how many investments can we put in it? Will it ever stop? Of course not. But there's a lot that New York has obviously been talking about this for years. That man definitely shouldn't be dead. No, he should definitely shouldn't be dead. If he was threatening them like they said, three people could have just held him down. Until the police came.

And we need more, I don't even want to say police presence, but we need police presence and presence of people that can actually help in those situations. I thought they did put police presence on the train. You could tell you ain't been on the train. The police is there. That's what I thought. They are there. I'm scared to smoke more police problems on the subway. You could tell you ain't been on the train. The police is there. That's what I thought. They are there. I'm scared to smoke

legal weed. There's so much police. There is so many police and they have the undercovers. The police presence. That's why they were holding them for 15 minutes and for 15 minutes

nobody came down. That's what I thought. I swear I thought there was so much police presence on it. There is police there but the police aren't in every train cart.

This took place on the train. This took place on the train. 15 minutes and nobody could call somebody because it wasn't like three minutes. 15 minutes they said. Well took place on the train. This took place on the train. 15 minutes and nobody could call somebody because it wasn't like 3 minutes. 15 minutes they said. Well, I know Tess, I know you had another story, but we got to go.

No, this was a great discussion. No, I'm glad to be here, but get the whiteboard out for the ladies on the words what they can and can't say. Envy is adding words now. Do we have another 30 seconds real quick? They're adding it every 30 seconds. I really want to just say um just to bring it to another part just some kindness goes a long way i used to live on 54th

and 8th when i was going to work back in the day when you remember we had regular jobs on wall street okay okay and i will say like i would even make packages for people that i was about to see homeless people down there if i had to go food from the night before i'd bring it with me anytime i go to a hotel shampoo conditioner mouthwash just carrying those little things for y'all that live in a city where you see people keep it in the trunk it goes a long way and sometimes that little bit of kindness will really keep somebody from being hungry and I'm not saying he deserved to berate everybody on a train but I can't imagine being hungry he didn't deserve to die yeah yeah he definitely didn't deserve to die all right well thank you Taz see you tomorrow and make sure you subscribe to uh Tazlyn Figaro's podcast

the Scrape Shot No Chaser podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network alright now when we come back the Isley brothers will be joining us so we gonna throw it back a little bit with the Isley brothers yes indeed throw it back we can throw it back with the Isley brothers well not that type of oh I'm sorry they got money

they got money it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club They got money. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. We called it Twisting Shout and Shout. And they, like, watched us. And my father always wanted us to be self-contained. Ernie started playing drums. And then he went to playing guitar.

Then my little brother played bass. Then my brother-in-law was playing keyboards and we became that self-contained group your father said let's not pay anybody on the outside anymore daddy said keep all the money now was that like ernie would did you was that self-taught those instruments yes wow let's start with drums first yeah at the time j time, Jimi Hendrix was living at the house, you know, and he was playing. Just gonna throw that name out there. Just gonna throw that name out there. Yeah, he was there, you know, like March of 63 to like November of 65.

Why was Jimi Hendrix just living at your house? Well, he was a guitar player, you know. And so, you know, we watched him. Ernie watched him. We didn't know Ernie was going to wind up playing guitar because he was playing drums at the time. And later on, Ernie started playing the guitar. And when I wrote the song, It's Your Thing, you know, Ernie picked up his bass and started playing the bass. I said, hey, you need to play bass on this song.

And he played bass on It's Your Thing from that time on. Did you have the problem early on with uh owning your own masters and and stuff like that did y'all own that and or if not did y'all get it back yes we own some of them they started a record company t-neck records and uh all the way up and to this point now i have another company which is ri top 10 and uh it owns everything how do y' everything only on some of you don't know the masses we go back to you after a certain point well it's all according to what you sign you know we had certain clause in our contract that

after 10 years we would it all would come back y'all should have been in debt eight times already right hell yeah oh man that's good though to have you mess with the what what's going on with ed sharon and this marvin gaye situation have you all i don't know if you know what's going on but uh ed sharon is is being sued by marvin gaye's family over sampling have you all ever heard something and you were like wait a a minute. That's us. Right, right. That sound like us. Have y'all ever been like, wait a minute. Well, the rappers always

had respect for our work. I love it when you call me Big Pop. That's between the sheets. Today was a good day. That was Footsteps in the Dark. There's a very strong association. We have more samples than anybody in the Dark. There's a very strong association. We have more samples than anybody in the industry.

Over a thousand samples. Do you have to clear everything? Do you listen to it before it goes? Yes, we have to clear. And it's legal samples. So when you heard Biggie, right? The first time you heard Biggie, right? I'm sure Puff called y'all.

Y'all heard the stuff that Biggie was talking about. What was your first mind frame? Because I'm sure, was it Puff that called you? We flipped out. Yeah. We flipped out. The first time I i heard that i knew he had a hit you know because it was done in such a signature way for him you know i'll see you some ladies tonight because you'll be having my birthday i started laughing when i yeah but i knew it was a whole thing i knew i knew it was a hit though he didn't reach out though he didn't reach out, though? He didn't reach out before him? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he did.

But you knew it was a hit. We were at the studio together talking about doing, you know, he wanted to do other records with us, you know. Oh, you were in the studio with Big? Yes. And Puffy. Puffy did a couple of records with us, you know. Then you turned to Villain, Mr. Biggs. Yeah.

You know, for a long time, that's what everybody looked at you as, Mr. Biggs. Yeah. for a long time That's what everybody Looked at you as Mr. Biggs Yeah So how was that That was yours It was Kel's or R. Kelly wrote the song Keepin' on the Down Low

And he said I wrote this song I see you doing it And my mother Wanted you to do it And so I listened At the record Did you know who he was

At the time Huh Did you know who he was At the time Yeah Okay He had out I think he body called him here or something and so his mother was a big fan of ours so she had told him all our songs and so we got together to do download and he said

i see you being mr big i want you we're gonna come in we going to do this video. I want to hear your foot when you come in the studio. That's how the video was. R. Kelly is really a genius, man. And we're doing music, and we went on. We did other songs, Contagious, number one albums with him. And sold millions of records. And any fear at the time because you were you know you were shout and you were between the sheets and now you were the villain and mr biggs you know me with the cane with the sword on it you know me well you know my brother gave

me the cane my brother took a picture with the cane rudolph yeah rudolph i didn't know about the cane would wind up being a video talking about, you're going to hit me with the cane. You know. But, hey, man, it's been wonderful. Wonderful. Let me say, we watch you guys. I know everything that you do.

Thank you. And I think what you're doing is so great, man. And never stop doing it. Thank you. Amen. Thank you. I feel like you've been the villain before, though. I'm sure some man has approached you about

being with their woman. They're all brothers, though. They ain't no good children. Yeah, they're all brothers. I don't know about that. What does tour life look for y'all after all of these years? It ain't like it was 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 40 years ago. What does tour life look for y'all now?

You know, we wouldn't know what to do if we wasn't doing the tour. We wouldn't sing and then seeing the response from the people, you know. I don't know what I would be doing if I didn't do that. All right, we got more with the Isley Brothers. When we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with the Isley Brothers. Who was your biggest competition back then, if there was any? Black, meaning black competition. James Brown. James Brown. Sam Cooke.

You know, Jackie Wilson. Oof. When we were on the show with them, they couldn't go on, man. When we did that song, we shut it down. You know what I'm saying? When y'all wrote music, was y'all trying to be like, like no we need to make a record that they know that they can't follow that's what that's what we were looking for and we hit that when we hit it's your thing and from that point on it was we went hey well that was kind of like the bobby brown my prerogative of

that yeah that was a dream that i had I said when I woke up I started humming the song I said no I did it's not gonna get away and I went down to my mother's house and uh Ernie was there he picked up his bass you know I said I got this song me and my brother and I sung it for him it went in the studio and uh I did it one time in the studio. Sang it one time while the band was playing. And then they said, well, it's time to do our part. I said, yeah, I already did it. So it came to you in a dream? Yeah.

It wasn't like a phrase y'all was saying or nothing like that? Came to me in a dream. And at the time, people were saying, it's your thing. Do your thing. You know, that expression was out but uh came to me in a dream you know now what about between the sheets how did that how was that song yes uh between the sheets there's a commercial you used to watch you can still see it on your computer chanel number five uh one man was at a far end of the pool and the guy was at

the opposite end and he dove into the water and he came up through her leg and they said she had a fantasy and i always liked that commercial and i had my guitar with me with the uh sound down and i thought what would the music be like and i started playing the chords to between the sheets genius genius and then we got into the studio Marvin and Chris and he says hey man okay you got any lyrics I got the news but you got any lyrics I said that yeah hey girl ain't no mystery at least as far as I can see I want to keep you here laying next to me sharing our love and I was stuck Chris picked up a legal patent and sharing our love between the sheets I said there you go and Marvin polished

off the rest of the song lyrically. Wow. What was the young lady that gave you that inspiration besides that? Oh, no. No, see, see, no. No, you see. Oh, man, what was her name? No, you see, like, that's, you know,

I refer to that person as my muse. Okay. You know, so that could be anyone. It could be one of my guitars, for example. I think of all my guitars as female. Have you ever written a song for someone else and then said, dang, should have kept that song? One time, I think we were thinking about the money,

and I said, hey, Aretha Franklin should do us her thing. And so we were trying to get $15,000 for it. Aretha Franklin was late at the studio, and she didn't come in. Oh, so Aretha Franklin was going. She took the record. Oh, no. Oh, she wanted her to hear it. Yeah, I would get her.

She was one of my girlfriends at the time. Wait, what? Yeah. Let's talk about it. Y'all ain't even playing. Y'all ain't even playing. She was one of my girlfriends at the time. Wait, what? Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Y'all ain't even talking about her. Y'all ain't even playing. You didn't say that was his girlfriend.

You said that was one of his girlfriends at the time. Well, at the time. So she was mad at you and she didn't show up? She was late in getting to the studio. And she didn't do the song. How do you fix that argument later on? Because, you know. I know you cursed her.

Yeah. Or did she curse you out for taking away her record? For taking her record? Yeah. How many girlfriends did you have back then? Yeah, I got so many. I don't know, man. I was so young, man. And it wasn't like the girlfriends that you guys have now.

You know? It was just like talking about music. And she was. That's the story. You sticking with it? Yeah. You know, it wasn't that I could. Y'all weren't between the sheets is what you think you know I was I have all my telephone from that time to now Aretha Franklin we talked maybe two and three times a week, even when she died. You know, we were the best of friends.

My wife suggested that she used Jennifer Hudson in a movie. And I said, well, I thought you're going to do Holly Berry. She said Jennifer would be, you know, a person for a movie. Jennifer came to see her that day and she sang a song to her. I said, you know what that song is? And Jennifer said, that's one of the Isley Brothers songs. It was the last song she sang. Wow.

That's how tight we were. I look at this, and I look at the span of how long you've been what if you could just is there a story of the craziest thing someone did on stage to get your attention or in the audience because that'd probably be something I did chase the tour bus or something like that was there ever anything did anybody throw anything on stage jump on stage were there ever I was on the stage singing Lucille, and I fell on my knees, and I had my eyes closed, and a lady threw a dress over me. What? No underwear. What did it smell like?

What did it smell like? Oh. Never mind. Was there any songs that y'all did that y'all didn't believe in, but it ended up being a hit? When I came down to the house for them to do the song, Love The One You With, they said, hey, man. I said, hey, man, we're going to do this song. That's what we're going to do. And it was a smash for us, you know.

Why you didn't like it? No. Well, to be honest, I think at that time I was growing into whatever musician or songwriter I was eventually going to be. You know, a lot of times, whatever you're going to do in the future, you can't see, but you have a feeling. You know, you don't know until you know, until you do it. You know, you listen to all your music and nothing sounds the same. Was that something that you made sure that you focused on and make sure that nothing was ever similar you know the shout didn't sound like between the sheets which didn't sound like they're like like it was totally different you know i remember when cbs first heard that lady they said well it doesn't sound like it's your thing it doesn't have trumpets or saxophones on it but we like it that uh you got elements of r&b dance funk but you also got a lead

guitar sound on there that's unusual that was the time that Clyde Davis signed us he was the one that listened to it and he had a serious ear he knew what a hit was and he did say uh it should be another verse we went back in the studio and Ernie wrote another verse because he needed three verses. At that time, yeah. And when we came back, Sony fired Clyde Davis for some bar misfits or something he gave and this and that. We said, hey, we just signed it. Don't worry about that. Your record will be out so on, so on, so on, so on.

And while we were arguing about Clyde Davis, the record was number one. Oh, wow. There was a time that you and, of course, the Isaac brothers and Earth, Wind & Fire, I mean, y'all were at the top of the top, these two groups. Did you all become friends?

Did you know each other at that time? Oh, man, my brother was crazy about them. I thought they were so creative. My brother was friends with Marvin and Verdine. They just talked all the time.

When they had That's the Way of the World. We would have had our record out at the same time, our biggest album, which was the Heat It song. The Heat It song would fight the power. But my brother was arguing with me, Brother Rudolph, because he said, it's another song we should have an album. When I was back, no, we could have six songs.

There's three slow songs in the album on one side and three on the fast side, Fight the Power. We were arguing back and forth. And that argument went on so long. And we didn't release our records at the same time. But anyway, they had the record was so successful. And our record was the biggest we our work it was a big swing I'm a half. I will not move. We got more with the Osley brothers when we come back and Kim Whitley's joining us as well It's a breakfast club. Good morning. Morning. Everybody is DJ envy Charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club

We're still kicking it with the Osley brothers and with all these records that that you've written and produced and sang and I mean you Keep talking my record. I'm like damn That's a lot of records and commercials and all that other stuff was there ever a time where things got tight at all in the industry no well when when when marvin gate came up with uh sexual real and he came up with in between the sheets when uh teddy pendergrass did Turn Off the Lights, which we took him on tour with us all night, and closed the door, we came up with Don't Say Goodnight.

And we would call him on the phone. Hey, so-and-so and so-and-so. We'd laugh and talk about that. Y'all was making diss records to each other. That was a diss record back then, right? So it was all friendly competition between all the legends. Yeah. Oh, no, no.

Keep going. You're not going to just throw that out. There was people that y'all actually had real beef with? I'm sure the beef is dead now, so. Right, right, right. The one beef I did wind up having was with Michael Bolton. Love is a wonderful thing. He did one of our songs, you know, and went to court for so many years.

You know, we won that case, and it's in the book again. It's because it's the biggest money case that he had to pay. He just went out and sung one of your songs? Yeah. Love is wonderful. But he wasn't trying to do credit. And I wanted him to, you know, hey, man, let's settle this. He didn't want to settle.

He went to court, and he had 100 lawyers. And who won the case? Damn colonizer. He just went coming. He sued his lawyers. He sued his lawyers then he sued his lawyers i think that case was for eight million dollars you know they ever pay all the money you got all your money yeah that's why they didn't have any problems yeah that's one of the reasons ernie do you think rmb is dead i meant to ask you that

no okay no no no not as long as there's all of that music waiting to be discovered or rediscovered and of course you know well we have a lot of divine grace still being here and with our track record and the way that we pursue the music ourselves no it's anything but dead it's more alive now than ever now do people call you or do you call, like, Beyonce? Do people call you or you call them? Like, how does that magic come together constantly? Well, I called her. I called her.

I called her. You know, we were talking about doing the song early in her career. But I called her mother. Her mother called her, and she said, yes! She's a beautiful woman, man. That's the biggest record for her right now, R&B right now. Oh, yes. It's still number one in California.

Oh, I hear that all the time. I love it. I wonder what inspires y'all now, because when you speak about how y'all were inspired by Marvin and Teddy Pendergrass, who do y'all look around to now and get inspired by wow yeah I look at uh it's some of the rappers too that we're doing records with now uh Takeoff and Quavo did a record with us and we were talking about you know what we was gonna do and what his death came about man it's just you know so y'all did a record with him on his project oh no on ours yeah on hers and we did a record with 2 Chainz then we did a record with Rick Ross then we did with Snoop Dogg you know I already uh Kendrick Lamar Kendrick Lamar yeah I did a couple of songs

with him who won the Grammy I love myself I. I love that record, too. Yeah. I love that record. Like, it was like, who's that lady, you know? What happened to, what happened to, like, the other members of the group? Did it ever sadden y'all that y'all look,

it's just y'all two now? Well, my older brother passed and my younger brother passed. My brother Rudolph, he decided to go into his ministry. So, so you know it's just me and ernie now you know do y'all ever feel peerless because you know so many of your peers have transitioned uh you know i think about my brothers and i think about you know it's not a day that goes by without me thinking about my older brother because he was incredible you know you know i think

about him being in heaven and watching sending down prayers for us yeah watching over your brothers yeah amen yeah absolutely the family what about artists other artists that you know y'all might have been close with that transition yeah i think about people like sam cook uh marvin gates a very good friend of ours uh jackie wilson was very very close to us james brown was he's crazy about us you know people like burt back rack i did an album with him i think it was one of my best out he's singing his song he just passed michael jackson we were crazy about him you know and i could go on and on you know people like jimmy hendrix and all you just oh my god i gotta get better friends and aretha franklin was my best friend when you was when you started making all

that money right do you remember your first big expensive thing that you bought? What was it? Well, I remember our first gig that we made like $500 between the brothers, just the three brothers. And we went to one of those thrift shops. Thrift shop, yep. Yeah, I went in there and bought me a suit. We all bought different suits, and we thought that was $500. About $500.

Wow. That one's suit was $10 thought that was $500. About $500. Wow. That one's suits was $10. It was $20. Yeah. You bought 10 of them. Yeah. That is great. That was what you remember.

Look at that. That was a great feeling. I wanted to know when the Versus thing happened how did that come about? Who called you and said this Versus thing is going on and what made you say

you know what this is going to be a great idea? Well my friend Greg Walker he called me and he talked on the phone for just hours and hours saying y'all should do this and he called switz and i talked to swiss you know and we talked over and over and over i don't know if we want to do this we had this record that you know friends and family and so i said well maybe we should do this we did with earth and earth went in fire you know when they call them they said yes and we said yes and then well it's gonna be then steve harvey called i i gotta i gotta be the

host there yeah and it was good because families got to watch it. My young kids, my parents, me. So it was good. Is it true y'all got your own liquor coming out? Oh, yeah. I know it's burnt. I know it's burnt. Oh, yeah.

Right there. There you go. Right there. Yeah, I had it in my purse. You had it in your purse? I mean, just tell me if you were on some class. Right, right. We got some.

It's Brandy and Vodka. Vodka. And we. Brandy. Brandy. Andy and contagious is the name of the brandy brown that's brandy brown i'm this vodka right here look at that right here how many babies you can make with this i don't know i don't know now we gotta ask i you know i'm looking in the corner over there And I see a guitar just sitting there And people don't bring guitars unless they want to use it Two guitars People don't bring two guitars unless they want to use them

We got millions of people We on BET I carry my guitars with me You know like the character in Peanuts Always has a piano It's a very secure thing for me. Really? Emotionally to have.

So I, you know, I knew he would come in here, so I was like, yes, I'll bring my guitars. I don't know whether or not I'll play them, but you know, I just have them with me. All right, well we appreciate your brothers for joining us. Yeah. All right, man. No, we thank you so much.

Thank you all you guys who contributed to this industry and to this world, to this world man thank you y'all are icons absolutely thank you absolutely well it's the Isley brothers it's the breakfast club is your country falling apart feeling tired depressed a little bit revolutionary consider this start your own country I planted the flag I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel.

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Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Good morning. Yo, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God, DJ Envy. I just want y'all to know that there's a spirited conversation happening behind the scenes

between Ebony K. Williams and DJ Envy. Ebony will be here next hour. What up, Eb? What up, y'all? Okay. Very spirited conversation. It was great. Does Beige Rage come back?

Huh? Does Beige Rage come back? No, I don't think Beige Rage came back. Man, you came back. Ebony, huh? You said, I'm talking, I'm talking. Was it there? Yeah. Oh, the Beige Rage was there. Ebony said the Beige Rage was there. Make sure y'all go get Ebony's book, Bet on Black,

and we are going to do a bus campaign for Ebony's book. Y'all about to see Ebony on the bus, y'all. I feel like Ebony hates me now, but I really did feel like a bus ad. No, I said Ebony hates me now. But I really do feel like a bus ad is like fun and funny. I do too.

You know what I'm saying? Because Ebony's got her books. She's got her shows. She's got her podcast. Like, I'm telling you. We're going to talk to Ebony next hour, though. Yeah, we're going to talk to her next hour. But let's get to the rumors.

Let's go. Let's go. Rumor has it. Rumor has it. Rumor has it. Call out her name or you gossiping or you chatty patty. I am gossiping.

This is the rumor report. I mean, I guess we on The Breakfast Club. This is where the tea spills, right? Yes. On The Breakfast Club. All right. Now, ladies from

Horrible Decisions are here with us. Weezy and Mandy B. They are our guest co-hosts for today. Hey, hey. Knowledge. Co-hosts.

They came up here and stepped in some ish this morning, huh? Listen. Oh, it was fun to watch for today. Hey, hey. Nelly. Co-host. They came up here and stepped in some ish this morning, huh? Listen. Oh, it was fun to watch you fight. Yo, shut up, man. Nelly and Ashanti are back together. That's what people are saying and they're saying they're very happy after

their 2013 split. They said that they were spotted together at the fight and a bunch of parties after and even doing a performance together at a pool party. What do you guys think? Like it, love it, hate it, what? I mean, I'm here for a double back. I think that especially if someone put it down and you like them and you take some time apart and it doesn't work out to come back together,

it might make sense. I'll tell you what, Ashanti Fine, he saw some pictures. He grabbed that thing back. Oh, yeah, she looking beautiful out here. I mean, we all kind of have championed J-Lo and Ben getting back together. I mean, I think it's the year of the double back. They waited 10 years and got back. What do they call that?

Respinning the block? They respin the block. No way. Spinning the block is the respin. It's the respin. Respin the block. Respin the block. Third time.

We're just trying to keep up here. All right. Now, Plyce has a serious message. He hit Joe Biden yesterday. He not serious? Yes, he did. He said, Joe Biden, you should pass a stank poom poom law. Any poom poom stank, 30 days in the county jail, no bond, non-negotiable.

Send this to Congress immediately. You think Joe's seeing this stuff? Yes. For some reason, I feel like we're so unserious as a country, and our government is so unserious that somebody in the White House would show him that. What the fuck I said about you, President Biden? Yes. You think so?

I don't know. None of y'all really know how to pull the skin back sometimes. There's a spell that's not only going to women. I am circumcised. For every stank poom poom, it's probably a man that got you there. Boom. Jesus Christ. So you know what?

Yeah. If you're talking about sending someone or imprisonment or whatever, the man that got you there is definitely- Why do men got to get blamed for everything? Why do men get blamed for y'all stank poom poom? Because you the damn problem. Ladies, let me give you a tip. Sometimes men mess up the page, man.

Yeah, y'all mess up the page. Sometimes. Don't say men. That's the thing. Just all men mess up women's page. So see, you added a word. We didn't say all men. We are speaking about women.

You said men, though. Men, but I didn't say all. You got to say some men. You have to put some in front of men, because if you don't put some, then it's a generalization. Well, I'll tell y'all what. Get some tea tree oil suppositories. Clean that thing out. Let it melt overnight.

Get that stank out of there. And you know what? Matter of fact, why don't you sage the poom poom, too? thing out. Let it melt overnight. Get that stank out of there. And you know what? Matter of fact, why don't you sage the poom poom too? That helps. Jesus Christ. Not bad energy. If you got to do all that, you got to keep it to yourself. If you got to sage your poom poom, you need to be celibate.

Okay, I'm going to be real with you. Sometimes great, what's the word I can find on this? Oh, boy. A great thing is hard to run from. You know what I'm saying like you know what bill i want to pass what men who don't know they condom size fellas if you are here putting on condoms that are ending up getting stuck in our poom pooms making the poom poom have a smell because now we got to go fishing because it wasn't your size to begin with you should go to jail

that's something you need to pass to President Biden. Know your size. Well, the larger issue with men not wearing their proper condom size is one. That's not a large issue. The smaller issue. No, men that have bigger penises that wear smaller condoms, that's when it ends up popping, breaking, and you end up with an STD and or a month of pregnancy. And now you're on Maury talking about,

that ain't my baby. So sorry. Go ahead. And again, I apologize for everybody that got your kids in the car i'm sorry i should have warned you first now uh kanye it seems like he's a troll he's trolling adidas allegedly they're saying that he just purchased a new place to have his headquarters and it's next to an adidas store in los angeles people are saying he's a jokester this is what he wants to do and he just wants to uh make it known that he is continued better than adidas no he's just a d i can't say the rest of the word he did he did

the same thing when he moved out of the house with kim and bought the house right across the street walk around with them damn socks on i was literally shopping at the webster shout out to the girl there and she was like kanye was in here with no shoes on he's trying out some new like sock type of shoe thing where it's like thicker sole like oh that was real yes i thought that was ai because i saw him he had the uh leggings on y'all saw the leggings oh i thought that was ai you can't be doing those pictures of the pope kanye is walking around la with no shoes on kanye is thick thick out here looking like them girls everywhere in them leggings i you, Kanye, with your thick ass. Leggings by Ye is crazy. Leggings by Ye.

He makes all his girlfriends wear them on their face, so. That's a good point. That's a good point. He took the mask off his face and got them on his ass now. Bro, I'm going to be honest with you. If I was out to eat in L.A.,

and honestly, since I've lived in L.A., I've learned so much. These celebrities are really out everywhere. If I was out eating and seeing one of them girls with the stocking on,

I would freak out because it's like a fetish in real life. That is absolutely a kink. And I realized I've been watching Kanye play his kink out in public. And Adidas employees actually was talking about how that man was making them watch porn in the office. So, listen. Jesus. We don't let him walk out here in his kinks because we don't kink shame.

All right. Well, that is your rumor report. Now, next hour, Ebony K. Williams will be joining us. We spoke about her the last two days, about her comments on dating bus drivers and her double downing. And we're going to talk to her when we come back. Which we should have done from the beginning, though. Because that's our people. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah. Shout out to Queen Ebony. Yes. All right. And you got a donkey today who you giving that donkey to oh man there's a man named paul bellowsie of hicksville uh he needs to come to the front of the congregation we like to have a word with him i didn't know people were still

smuggling drugs in this way but we'll talk about it oh is it Why did that turn y'all on? What? You said it was so fast. Ooh. Well, they do have to put a lot of lube on it to put it in. Okay, never mind. They actually call that nature's pocket. Go to commercial, please. That's the Breakfast Club. Come on. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.

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Goes to a 55 year old man named Paul Belosia hicksville i have no idea what hicksville is but i can only assume it's a town full of hicks well this hick clearly believes in a creed that a great urban philosopher by the name of pastor young jeezy that is once delivered and that creed is trap or die okay in this case trap or fly because that is exactly what paul was attempting to do, because Paul is an American Airlines mechanic who worked at JFK Airport, and he was found guilty Thursday of trying to smuggle over $300,000 worth of cocaine stashed in a hidden compartment under the cockpit. Let's go to CBS News for the report, please. An American Airlines mechanic has been convicted of smuggling cocaine through JFK Airport.

Paul Beloisi was found guilty of trying to transport 10 bricks of the drug from Jamaica in 2020. The cocaine was hidden inside an electronics compartment beneath the plane's cockpit. Prosecutors say the drugs were discovered when the flight was selected for a routine search by Customs and Border Patrol. Officers caught Beloisi by replacing the 25 pounds of cocaine with fakes and waiting to see who would come to retrieve it. The mechanic faces up to 20 years in prison. Come on, man. 25 pounds of cocaine trying to smuggle on a plane? Who still does that?

Y'all watch Cocaine Bear, the movie? No, I never saw it. Basically, it was a true story where a plane that was carrying cocaine crashed in some kind of forest and the bears got high and went crazy. And honestly, when you first said, how do people still do this? I don't see how they don't. I honestly, like, when you first said how do people still do this,

I don't see how they don't. I mean, literally, the fact that he did it is probably because he's been getting away. Yeah, he's probably doing this

for a long time. No, I agree. He's probably number 10. And what kind of pit was it? A cockpit. Yes. Oh,

got him. We in the building. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. No, I mean, it's crazy because

this is Clearly happening Did you see the BBL The girls that just Got a BBL They got pulled over From a traffic stop And literally

She had to lay down In the back seat Because her butt She couldn't sit on it And she said Can I just Can I just get away With a warning

She was found Oh god I think They had 150 pounds Of weed In her BBL In a Sienna In a Sienna van In their luggage Damn I thought it was In the BBL with a warning. She was found, oh God, I think they had 150 pounds of weed in a Sienna, in a Sienna van in their luggage. Oh, I thought it was

in the BBL, man. No, it wasn't in the BBL, but she's laying down in the back of the seat because she can't sit on her BBL. And now she got to go to jail with her BBL.

I agree with a lot of what y'all saying, especially about the movie thing because I feel like, you know, Pablo Paul has watched one too many episodes

of Snowfall. You know what I mean? Because smuggling cocaine in the plane's electronic compartment like it's a glove box in the car, that's kind of wild.

You know what I mean? Is that why flights have two hour delays? Imagine hearing you missed your connecting flight because Paul was inspired by season one of BMF. That's crazy.

Now, I don't knock nobody's hustle, but when the hustle is executed like Tyreek in season one of Power, it's a problem. Okay? And Paul got caught because the police actually swapped out his drugs with dummy bricks that have a luminescent spray in them.

Whoa. Yeah. What I'm trying to figure out is how he didn't notice that. So he opened that thing and it just... Yeah. But how you don't notice that? It just came in his face? Is that how that happened? You said the luminescent thing.

Whoa. Whoa. Wheezy and crazy I'm so sorry they already dropped off in that school

right yes yes they are they are the moral of the story is uh all of these

all of this drug dealing ends the same way all right either you get caught or you get killed

all right did you not see what happened to Franklin Saint okay there's not a drug dealer that wins ghost is dead okay the stories are all different but the endings are all the same you know what's a better job what's the better job driving a bus listen man when it comes to drug dealing no idea is original nothing is new under the sun it's Listen man When it comes to drug dealing

No idea is original Nothing is new under the sun It's never what you do Because no matter how it's done You will end up in jail So please give Paul Belosi of Hicksville The sweet sounds of the Hamilton's Oh now you are the donkey

Oh man Of the day You are the donkey donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw. All right. Thank you, Charlamagne, for that donkey of the day.

That's right. Before we do, we have to close out and shout to BET. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Say bye to BET, Mandy and Weezy. Bye, BET. No, see you guys tomorrow. Our guys say bye to BET Mandy and Weezy. Bye BET. Over there. No no no over there. Look I like it.

We're not doing it. Everybody else when we come back we're going to have a real conversation. Ebony K Williams will be joining us. That's right. We talked about it the last couple of days about the comments she made about bus drivers and then doubling down. I think it's a bigger conversation than just the bus driver thing too though. You know what I mean? Because you know she doubled down in her comments. I took it's a bigger conversation than just the bus driver thing too, though. You know what I mean?

Because she doubled down in her comments. I took it as she said that the working class was average and mediocre. She feels like she didn't say it in that way. I felt that way too. That's not what her intention was. So she'll be up here to talk about it. Right, and we're going to talk to her next, all right?

And the beige rage doesn't come out. So the beige rage meter is going to be in this conversation? I'm sure it will be oh 100 if you have good producers that's all going in there we'll have that discussion next it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club a lot of sex talk earlier today but but you know and just so i know off air envy in here y'all, but I ain't going to call him out. What? He like, he? I mean, he was a culprit.

He was involved in an activity that he ain't share with everybody. You was part of that activity, y'all. No, I was not. I didn't do what you were doing. I mean, part of it. We got a special guest in the building as well. We got a special guest in the building. Ebony K. Williams is here.

Ebony K. Williams. Good morning, Breakfast Club fam. Good morning, Harbor Decision's family. Hello, fam. This is like Ebony K. Williams Good morning Breakfast Club fam Good morning Horrible Disciples family Hello fam This is like a family Reunion up in this piece It really is

I feel like we about To start fighting So let's just say We love each other now I actually feel bad I actually feel bad And I'm going to tell you Why I feel bad

Because I did two things This week that I normally Don't do Number one If somebody I know Is got something going on On social media We should have spoke to them.

I appreciate that. And not about them. You know what I mean? And Ebony is our people. So I feel like we should have probably spoke to her. You know, reached out to her. Like we always do

for everything else. And I didn't watch the full interview with Ayanla. I watched the clip online. The good thing, the good thing I reached out to you, my good brother.

Yes. And we had a productive, spirited conversation. Yes, we did. And you rolled out the red carpet and that's why I'm here today. So my good brother. And we had a productive, spirited conversation. Yes, we did. And you rolled out the red carpet. And that's why I'm here today. So I appreciate it. Absolutely.

Now, who watched the full interview with Aiyana in here? I did listen to the full Holding Court episode with Ebony K. Williams and Dustin Ross. Of course, I saw the clips as well. And I as well responded on my podcast, See The Thing Is, and spoke about it as well. However, there was more agreement with you than not. And so I'm excited to have this conversation. I don't think Ayanla was really the issue when watching it, though. Like, I mean, I made a comment on your page and Breakfast Club page and men was jumping down my throat.

I'm like, what does it matter what she wants to be with? But I think the other comments were tough to watch. So here's the thing i want to first of all as i started with my holding quarter episode offer gratitude because i think what we know the fact that this conversation with myself and dr ayala shout out to my sore it aired last week and let's talk about what's happened since then we've had a whole white house correspondence dinner which which roy wood jr kill shout out to roy we've had the met gala we've got a war in ukraine and still a war in sudan and yet folks is still talking about this more than anything else

and i think that speaks to something right i think it speaks to the insatiable nature of the fact that we've got to have this conversation as black men and women and we're talking about the black family structure and black wealth building and all of those are tenets that are tethered to why this has hit such a nerve and why it's reverberating uh you know in a way Tyrese posting about it Jason Lee posting about it the shade room posting about his spiritual world posting about it uh Ava Dubonnet in the comments you know Viola Davis what was Viola saying we get to it so so so that's a good thing I want to start by that framework nothing about this is negative uh people are disagreeing people are feeling a way we're gonna talk about it but I want to start by that framework. Nothing about this is negative. People are disagreeing. People are feeling a way. We're going to talk about it.

But I want to start by the framing that this is. We cannot have rupture in the culture and not do the work of repair. So to me, this is a conversation about repairing and restoring what has historically been a productive, valuable conversation and relationship between black men and women that somehow some way has gotten away from us. Yeah, I think it's two different conversations like i watched the full and like i don't care who there's a lot of people that don't know what you're talking about that might have just tuned in and have no idea some people because you have to tell people what you're talking about okay so it's something from comments that because i don't want to misconstrue because we only had a small piece of your conversation with ayya sure so during your ion conversation she asked

if you would date a bus driver would you date a bus driver would you date if he owns the bus if he owns it if he owns the bus that's no that's a problem that's a problem because the standards and requisites and i'm not talking about him laying on his sofa playing video games all day. I'm not talking about that. But the standards and the criteria that we use to measure men is off for who we are as women and who they are in this society. I would date a bus driver if he loved driving the bus, if he was a man of integrity, if he was good to his mama, if he treated me well, I would date a bus driver. So, let me back up for one second and be correct. I invited

a young law on my griot show. That griot show airs on Byron Allen's network. The griot airs every night at 6. Let's first of all start with this whole shit is y'all's fault. It always is. This whole shit is y'all's fault here at the Breakfast Club. No, love y'all.

Y'all had a young line. And Yala made a statement on the Breakfast Club morning show. And she said that a lot of young black ladies out here are men in skirts. What is the distinction between feminine power and masculine power? And we've been conditioned and trained to be men in skirts. We do everything like men. We compete like men. Most women want their boyfriend to act like their girlfriends you know chatting shopping but when the man comes home what they meet is another dude which you agreed with which which

i found very provocative did i not call you yep that day i said oh this is spicy i would love to participate in this conversation and then you do what what you always do. And you went radio silent. That's cool. So then everybody that knows Charlamagne and is in a loving relationship with Charlamagne know that's the shit pool. It's cool. I've never taken a place with her. So it's cool.

It's always love for seven years. So then I said to my team, I said, reach out to Ayanna. Let's book her. Let's bring her on the grill. Because I want to have the conversation. And probably more productively, right, y'all? Black woman to black woman. Yeah. let's talk to each other and also generation to generation let's talk to you because she old yeah sorry i was gonna say

you should hope to get to that age that's it i want to age amen gracefully beautifully okay so yalla comes on and i and i say this is the framing i say to Dr. Vanzantel Yanla, I say sis doctor, soror talk to me about what you would recommend black women do in terms of our posture and positioning when you're right we are, I am showing up in a posture of building

providing and protecting my own self, I'm showing up in masculine energy as you would call it I'm conceding your point but tell me how you would guide me to not do so when i'll be honest i don't really feel like i can trust that if i don't do it that there's going to be adequate keyword they're adequate provision and protection if i don't do it which is how you said it that's exactly how i said it right and she said beloved would you date a bus driver and then the clip goes and

then i i i did stare into the abyss because i wasn't really that moment if he owned the bus and that's what i said mb but what people heard based on the comments, that I said bus drivers weren't s***. People heard that I said that bus drivers broke, don't make no money, and got no benefits, and that they were beneath me. That somehow was the interpretation of me saying that I will date a bus owner.

Now, let me tell you what I actually said, and this is what the whole Holden Court s*** was about. Go check that out right now where you get your podcasts. Holden Court with FDK Williams featuring Dustin Ross. I said on Holden Court, y'all, let out right now when you get your podcast. Holden Court with Ebony K. Williams featuring Dustin Ross. I said Holden Court, y'all. Let me tell you why ownership is it for me. It's not about salary. Y'all made it about salary. Y'all started debating

125 a year versus 160 a year versus 200 a year. Well, you did quote stats before you went into the thing with Yaya. You talked about women who earn more money than men. And I talked about black women buying more homes. We buy homes. Single black women are buying 20% of the market share of new real estate on the market.

I know because I just closed last summer and it was a show in underwriting. That's another conversation. They're graduating more. They're in college. I think I said it to you, Charlemagne. Charlemagne, you guys do so much work on The Breakfast Club about what? HBCUs. And I was devastated when my good friend uh eugene scott sent me a post uh washington post article that said black men are going to hbcus one to two it's two to one for

black women graduating so these are things we got to look at because you have daughters and you have daughters and some of y'all here got daughters and if they're gonna want to partner and marry men and black men at that and they're gonna want to partner and marry men and black men at that and they're gonna want to build together as you two cite your marriages as examples of we gotta we gotta talk about how people can be equally yoked so back to ownership charlamagne i said ownership is key for me why not because i'm a bougie bitch this is not about everybody being a harvard surgeon this is about this book right here bet on black you've You've read it, Charlamagne. Y'all were at the party. Y'all know what time it is. It's hard to be free in America as a black person when you don't own anything. And I mean that with my fiber and my being,

and I'm going to prove it to you. My mother drove a bus as well, y'all. She drove a bus until she acquired a skill set. In her case, it was cosmetology. And this is not about shaming bus drivers. But I want to be clear. If you are driving a cosmetology and this is not about shaming bus drivers but i want to be clear if you are driving a bus today and that is the maximum of your skill set i love and appreciate it for you i have to because it's an honest day's living so this goes back to everybody in the comments well my daddy drove a bus and he did this and this and he was respectful he was a good black man he was a great black man i'm sure i'm sure all the bus drivers are saints and none of them cheat and none of them beat women and they all are just god-fearing men that show up and how

they're supposed to in this world i believe not all but i'm saying no no that's the narrative and all people that dare to own they dare to uh advance a skill set in a different kind of way not a better way or a worse way a different kind of way they all They all have full-blown AIDS, beat their wives, and will die alone. That's the narrative. What Tyler Perry movie is this? That's what I'm saying. It's temptation. It's very Tyler Perry. Alright, we got more with Ebony K. Williams when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's D.E.J. N.V. Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Ebony K. Williams, and we also have Weezy and Mandy B. from Horrible Decisions here. What about the bus drivers that their goal was to own a home? And what if they came from something that necessarily wasn't the best

education and driving the bus is successful? I think we gotta broaden the conversation. I think we keep using words like bus drivers. This is what bothers me to make it seem like bus drivers only drive buses. Why do we keep talking about bus drivers? Let's generalize. We could talk bus drivers? Because that's what she said. We can talk bus drivers.

We can talk police officers. We can talk MTA workers. We can talk all these different people that work at these quote-unquote average jobs. Everyday working class people. Now, this is my problem, right? Now, you know I do real estate and I do these seminars all across the country, right? We get thousands of people. The majority of people that own homes and investment homes are your quote-unquote average workers. All your bus drivers.

All your MTA workers. so they just don't drive Buses they have properties they have I know a police officer that drives Ferraris Because it's not from his police job it's from The houses that he owns that he made off to the Police job. You sure it's not from the cocaine he's stealing In the home. I'm a thousand percent I'm a thousand percent

He has more properties than you me and Charlene Put together that's who he is but they take it Serious but I know these people that do it, and they put in hard work. So when you said, I wouldn't date a bus driver unless he owned his own bus, a lot of people felt it like, yo, that's disrespectful. Because just because I took a job, and a lot of people take those jobs for a couple of different reasons. One, the benefits, right? They know they can work for 20 years. After 20 years, they can retire, and they still get their retirement, and they still get their benefits.

So after 20 years, they can. Most police still get their retirement and they still get their benefits. So after 20 years, they can. Most police officers, the same thing. They get their retirement. They can still carry their firearm and they can still get their benefits. So I look at it as that's a great hustle. They work for 20 years. At the end of 20 years, let's say they start at 21. At 41, they're done working the bus company, done being a police officer, done being MTA.

And now they're just making money on top of money. So it's value over values right envy let me stop you right there it's not it's not do you think for one second and i know you don't know me that well we've had enough conversation i had you on revolt black news you talked to me about your father who was a leader in law do you think for one second i'm about to push back on anything you just offered in that statement you can't right so i cannot and so what i'm telling you is what you are applying now is not the facts as they were given to me ayala did not ask me ebony would you date a bus driver that also had a real estate

portfolio ayala did not ask me hold on now uh ebony would you date a bus driver that also has um a litany of franchises because you and your wife just bought five right crystal crystals crystal barkers okay she didn't ask. That was not the framing of the question, Envy. Had that been the framing of the question, I would have said, Dr. Vons, I would have f***ed he at. But that wasn't the framing. So real quick, but you have to come with

a resume and say, are the properties that I own or do you get to know that man and see what he's about? But see, that's semantics now. Here's the thing. Y'all didn't listen to the whole Ayanla interview. Go ahead, Char. Ebony actually agreed with Ayanla. That's what's confusing me. Because you actually agreed with Ayanla when she talked about

you should be open to dating a bus driver. You can bill with a bus driver. You actually agreed with that. That was confusing me. You agreed with Ayanla then also conflated more and said a loving man. Someone that loves what they do. There was a whole lot of other things. So she agreed that of course

I want a loving man. I want a man that's passionate. I want a man with a plan. All the other things that came after the bus driver is what Ebony agreed to. I said why let the griot put out a clip that is more salacious and out of context when you actually didn't agree. I'm not going to throw the griot under the bus. See what I did

there. But what i am going to do but what i am going to do is say that we know the business that we are in so you said something charlamagne um on the show yesterday we're like we're entertainers um and we have to not over um okay so i want to be clear my my beloved oh my god i'm actually not an entertainer i'm not i'm an educator i'm an advocate. I happen to use the form of television, radio, and podcasting to do my work. See, we can't conflate

platform with purpose. So why did the Griot and the brilliant, talented team of journalists over there decide to use the bus driver clip, which is sensational and controversial? Because let's be honest, the Griot is not getting the eyeballs the Breakfast Club is getting. be honest the grill is not getting the eyeballs the breakfast club is getting revolt black news is not getting the eyeballs the breakfast club is getting or the

view is getting or the talk used to get because the the nature of not just black culture of american culture is entertainment first so when you start doing the work of educating around where artificial intelligence is taking the culture where you start doing the work about where criminal justice reform. How this summer the U.S. Supreme Court, y'all, affirmative action is we all know what the f*** is going. Know that. But no one is going to watch in the volume that

we need to have the impact that I seek as a teacher in this world, Charlemagne, if we don't put out that clickbait. That's the reality. So it was to bring attention to a larger conversation. And guess what? What we know, because we all sitting here today talking about the reality. So it was to bring attention to a larger conversation. And guess what? What we know because we all sitting here today talking about this shit a week later is it worked. It worked.

It worked. Then you came back and the next day people feel like you doubled down. No, you don't feel like I did. I stood ten toes down. But I don't think that was standing down, though. I think you completely took a different turn. I agree. You think so?

I agree. I actually thought it was tough to watch. I only saw a handful that even considered the possibility of a bus owner being a more aspirational position. Now, I suspect that some of y'all are the same men that were bringing home C's and D's on your report cards, only to then be coddled by parents that said, well, that's okay as long as you're doing your best. Well, listen, I love and believe in the excellence of black men. So no, my dear, C's and D's or any other form of mediocrity is not okay. But could it be that black America has been sold a narrative of average, regular, and typical being good enough for us? Well, see, that's called white supremacy. No, average is not and will never be good enough for us. Hmm. Well, see, that's called white supremacy. No, average is not

and will never be good enough for me. And the gag is, I don't think it's good enough for you either. What I watched, were you talking about people as a whole?

Right. And even white supremacy bringing up calling, saying average, like it to me, it felt like almost attack on the working class and the people that were

in them comments more than it was the man you're looking for. So let's address it, Weezy. I'm glad you brought that up because that is the turn that I took. So at this point, who gives a f*** about who Ebony K. Williams is dating? Let's throw that over to the side because it's irrelevant. That's your preference. I agree.

And who gives a f***, right? So now let's talk about my real work in this world. The work God has called me to do, which is to always sit in a posture of elevating, advancing, and offering options to black Americans for us to have a first class existence. So when I talk about a permanent black underclass, that's something that I talked about in the

response video that we see citing. A lot of people felt away about that. What the does she mean a permanent black underclass? What I mean is the data. So I sent Charlemagne a bar graph from the from the u.s census yesterday and it listed about 15 different global identities so again you got to zoom out for this this is not about black folks and white folks in america this is global at the top of that y'all this is earnings indian americans earn more than anybody else in america at the very bottom black americans it's like they were only

earning about a hundred thousand dollars per year per average not a few not half a hundred percent of their average is a hundred thousand plus we were down here at around 28 000 30 000 okay where are white people in the middle we they weren't up here so that's why i have a personal problem with a lot of the culture saying that we should not have to be excellent we should we used we talked about this charlamagne the culture saying that we should not have to be excellent we should we used we talked about this charlemagne yesterday on the phone we should get to be basically as mediocre as average as white americans for me that's a no i'm gonna tell you why i travel the world y'all all travel the world y'all are global citizens and we're blessed and privileged to do so

i got news for y'all white mediocrity is depreciating fast. So I'm not going to hold white mediocrity, white subpar, white averageness as a standard for the generation of black children we're raising today. Well, what does America do without the working class? First of all, it's not about not not having a working class. It's saying that why do black people? I'm so glad you asked this. Why do black people disproportionately occupy it? Now, you made a very good point yesterday, Charlamagne, talking about essential workers. Okay. America found out, if we didn't know before, how essential our bus drivers, our MTA drivers, our home health nurses, our custodians, our grocery store workers were during fast food, all of it during COVID. And God knows we were ringing those pots and shouting them out. And God bless our essential workers. Nobody loves them more than your girl here. But you know what I don't love

is that black folks died at a 2 to 1 rate of during COVID. That black folks were on ventilators more often during COVID. And part of the reason why that was the case y'all is because we over index in the blue collar working sector, in the essential jobs. And many of us don't have the option that we all had, which was to do our jobs virtually.

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And we're talking to Ebony K. Williams. So, of course uh everybody's been talking about this bus driver comment now you've been talking for the last 20 minutes and i feel like you're moving the goalposts right what people were upset about was what you said and everything that you said could absolutely positively be true people were upset that they felt like that you were putting down the average person quote-unquote average job and the person that was working the average job that that they're they're what they do is not as good as what you do. That's a projection.

That's a projection. Because, you know, I let you speak. So when you start talking about all this and I read the comments just like you did, because I wanted to prepare myself when you came up here to understand what people were mad about and understand what people are upset about. So when you're talking about all this brother this and the black man this and the white supremacy this and this that and the other that's all to the side of how you felt about that quote unquote average job right? And I'll be honest with you right? One of the comments that I said

and maybe I'm not sure right? The guy was like he was like you talk about all this about lifting a brother up and lifting this up and white supremacy and what you do for our people and then the first thing the brother said was, but your fiance was white. And I'm sitting there like, how do you talk about how much you uplifting and how much you're going for black people? But that's not necessarily what you're even looking for. Well, first of all, Dr. Umar.

Damn. Well, let's not skip a beat. So I would love to know how you envy know what I'm looking for. I've never had'm wrong. I'm just asking. Let's not skip a beat. So I would love to know how you, Envy, know what I'm looking for. I don't know. Because we never had the conversation. I don't know. But you just framed it. I'm telling you what people are saying on comments what I've read.

And I'm talking for them. I'm not a bus driver. Oh, I know you're not. I'm speaking for the average person out there because I feel for them. Because the bus drivers and the average person are what keeps these lights on here on The Breakfast Club. That's right. They keep me booking shows. Envy, nobody is saying.

Okay, first of all, this is not about you booking shows this is about how i feel so when you on the people that no first of all you're dead ass wrong for framing it as me shitting on them you don't think it was on it first of all i know it wasn't i think what you're saying is irresponsible i think i think i think what you are framing right now in this moment is highly irresponsible because we're i'm going to if you listen I'm going to tell you because if you were to listen to all of the full Yonla interview, the full sidebar, the full episode of Holden

Court, nowhere in any of that commentary did I say a cross or negative word about the working class of black America of America broadly or black men. I'm going to get to the why was my fiance. Embiid let me finish this statement. I'm going to get to the, why was my fiance? Embi, let me finish this statement.

Do you know what people feel? I'm going to get to, I'm- Just because you didn't mean to hurt somebody, just because you didn't mean to affect somebody doesn't mean you didn't hurt a community. I don't feel in feelings. I can say anything about somebody, but I didn't mean to hurt you. But if you hurt people, you hurt people.

If people feel a way about you, they feel a way about you because those people that you talked about are the people that buy your books, that listen to this show, and they hurt hurt ebony what about words like average mediocre typical in the bigotry or low expectations i think those are the words that hurt the working you can sit here and say no i didn't hurt nobody you hurt people out there they buy your books and follow you and support you you asked me to be quiet y'all please y'all asked me to be quiet i

listened to your full statement i understand you have a feeling about it. And now that you talked for 22 minutes and I just spoke for 60 seconds. But she is here to talk to us. I know, but I'm just saying. We got ours off already. Let Ebony talk. I'm just returning what she said. Go ahead, Ebony.

Don't act like I didn't let her speak. She spoke for 22 minutes. Absolutely. Go ahead, Ebony. Let her talk. Don't do that. Let her go. Go ahead.

So, Envy, this is where we're different. My primary focus and goal when I do what I do in the world is not to protect feelings. I'm going to be candid with you. I understand it's clear from the energy that there is an emotional attack that you felt was on black men, the working class and black America. I'm going to hold the space for the hurt feelings around that. But more than I care about hurt feelings, I care about providing my people with facts and information that say that the current way of life for the majority of black Americans is not serving us. I'm going off of the data and the facts that is I am not okay. And I don't think it's okay that the vast majority of black Americans again, overpopulate

disproportionately occupy spaces that are not ideal. That make us vulnerable. I talked about the COVID that make us vulnerable to death, disease, maternal health, all the things that we are, that y'all all talk about in this show every day. Now, if y'all are okay with the current positioning of black America, that we are the lowest income, the lowest home ownership, the lowest educated group, then so be it. And let's just, let's just stop talking now and keep on going about our business. If I'm not okay with it. So that is why I said what I said about addressing the bigotry of low expectations.

It's the bigotry of low expectations is the reason why I have to submit that black men are now going to HBCUs and college and generally at half the rate of black girls and women. I don't think that's okay. Shouldn't we address the system that put us in this position? We are addressing the system, but first we have to name it Charlemagne.

See, that's where people's feelings are getting hurt is the fact that I am naming it. I am saying that it is not okay to bring C's and D's to your home and then expect to go on to higher education and acquire a higher skill set. And when you say that, that is hurtful to people, Envy. I'm acknowledging the pain. But somebody has got to start telling the truth to our people.

And some of y'all wonder why you get the political representation y'all get. Because some folks would rather hear things that make them feel good Than understand and hear the things that are the truth. So let's talk about average, mediocre, and typical. Because a lot of people felt a way about it. Well, I looked it up. I did the service of pulling it up out of Merriam-Webster. So this is not Ebony shitting on anybody, Envy. This is simply to say when you do something average, by definition, it is of typical value.

It is normal and it is standard when you are regular normal acceptable when you are mediocre that would have people real hot it means ordinary medium commonplace and moderate and the bigotry don't forget the bigotry of low expectations i'm gonna get to that that's an academic study. So those of you that think that's George W. Bush, go do your reading. Go do your reading. But let's talk about those words, Charlemagne. Nothing in there says you ain't shit. Nothing in there says it's bad or low or beneath.

They've applied the negative connotation. That's a projection. And I'm not going to stand for it. Because you need to be honest with the actual semantics in which we are talking about. So when you say regular, hardworking, everyday people, Charlamagne, that is rhetorically not any different than me saying average, mediocre work. I disagree because those words can be weaponized. It's like the word basic has been. I can call y'all basic.

I can call y'all basic. But there's a negative connotation. You call me mediocre. I'm out the room. But also, we've done that with the N-word. We've done it with the word whore. There's negative connotations to a lot of words. And if someone calls it to you, I get that. We reclaim the word whore.

You are talking about something totally different. But what I'm saying is, even when she brought up C's and D's in school, academically, a C says you're average. That's exactly what it means. I don't know why that's a problem being average. Because people mandate accepting C's. Because I don't think essential workers are average. First of all, let me finish this statement. Uber drivers, bus drivers, I don't think any of those people are average and mediocre.

I'm not saying that the people are average. So let's slow it down. I don't think any of those people are average i'm not saying they're that the people are average so let's let's let's slow it down the job is average the job is average i don't think the job is average by definition it says that most people can do it per the skill set it also speaks to the income it commands it speaks to scarcity and demand so that's what we're talking about people that are holding college degrees that have to drive uber right now because they're doing mediocre work so sweezy let me be very clear as to what i'm not saying no y'all have to listen to this i am not saying that a piece of paper makes you a more valuable individual i didn't say that i don't believe that i prove it to you i let us i let a lawyer go because when i was ready to go where i was trying to go and vacation with him sir your particular way of practicing law did not allow

provision and protection i think it's it's, what's the real question is, if C's and D's aren't good enough and you're saying that a higher education What I'm saying is, you're saying a higher education also doesn't mean that, then what do they have to do to be excellent? Because I'm someone who did have C's, B's, A's I own three businesses

I'm sitting here with all y'all and we all make seven figures. Maybe I'm on the lower end of this as a mediocre person. It's like, I don't know what I make. I don't know. Make that kind of money. He probably makes eight.

But we did. Did you hear about story about my mother? We said she doesn't have a college degree. My grandfather didn't, but she never did it. I didn't hear about your mom. Right. So she's not mediocre.

Not because, but when she drove that bus, she was doing mediocre work. We can call her up and she'll say that. My father was a military. He was a mechanic. He was a bus driver. He was's not mediocre. Not because when she drove that bus, she was doing mediocre work. We can call her up and she'll say that. My father was a military. He was a mechanic. He was a bus driver. He was a police officer. Your father was exceptional. My mother worked at Guardian Life Insurance. I'm the first person in my family to go to college. First person to graduate from college. And my parents put me through college. So I don't look at them as mediocre. I don't look at them as average.

They are exceptional and they did what they do to get their kids through all this stuff. What you said is so different than what I'm talking about. i am the same with them and i am the same and the difference is what you said is oh you want to encourage and you want to do this i do the same thing without putting people down i'm not putting people down i'm being very honest and people have been saying i don't think you're listening like as much as you talk you're not listening what people say i'm not bothered by that though i'm not'm not going to be shamed. Because people are hurt and they have opinions. Just like you have your opinion, you can't talk over people and not let people talk. But you're also interrupting me, Envy.

I'm not. I was talking. You keep talking to me. I let you speak. And then I just started talking. You got it. I just started talking. I let you speak.

And I waited for you to be quiet. And I started talking. You heard something that you didn't like. And you cut me off. That's how it just went. Because once you start being intellectually dishonest. There we go. Now with the Envy.

Go ahead. That's exactly what happened. Let's how it just went. Once you start being intellectually dishonest. Now with the envy, go ahead. Let's keep it cool. If I give somebody the platform to speak and I let you speak, then I speak. It doesn't matter that we don't agree or disagree. We can have a conversation, but we got to respect each other in this conversation. And part of that respect is being honest.

I think the conversation is healthy. If you listen to the whole Ayanla interview, I get a better sense of what you're trying to say. But the second, the doubling down is what threw me completely off. What threw you off about it? It did sound like you was shitting on the working class. I'm not shitting on the working class.

And if you weren't, I think you need to make that very clear. Well, I've tried to make it clear with three different examples. I think y'all don't want to hear it. And that's okay, Envy. It's okay. Like you said, it's okay to disagree.

Okay? So we can say, we can argue semantics back. Because that's really, Envy. It's okay. Like you said, it's okay to disagree. Okay? So we can say, we can argue semantics back. Because that's really, at this point, this is an argument around semantics. How do you feel about the American dream? And what I mean by that is the American dream is the belief that anyone, regardless of where they were born or what class they were born into, can attain their own version of success in a society which up with mobility is possible for everyone. So all of these jobs that we're talking about, that is those people's version of success. That is their American dream.

What's wrong with that? What's wrong with them having that? I think you know the answer. Nothing, Charlemagne. Okay. Nothing. Like, come on. Now we're talking circularly, to Envy's point.

There's nothing wrong with that. I am simply, he said it, there are people that don't know what's possible. There are people that don't know, man, I would love to have a salon. What does that take? Well, let me start an LLC. Well, maybe I need to convert to an S corporation. Maybe I need to do this. And so when we are so cut up with feelings, because we don't want people to feel bad,

we don't want to call on what people don't have access to or knowledge around. I think it's stagnant. I think we all agree with that. And what Envy's saying and what everybody else is saying is you can say all of that and that's true without calling people average, mediocre, typical or telling them they're stuck in the low expectations. And I think

per the dictionary, per the dictionary and per the facts. So again, we spent 40 minutes talking about something that's very simple and unfortunate that this is really where we landed charlemagne because we're talking about personal projections around defined words that's really what this whole and that's why brother is nodding but you can you can weaponize this conversation but don't put that on me because i'm not whether you think you did or not i told you i think you did well you can think whatever you want char not, I told you I think you did.

Well, you can think whatever you want, Charlamagne. And a lot of other people did too. I don't care what. It could be Jesus Christ thinking it. I know what I said. I know what I said. But Jesus Christ, you better listen. But Jesus Christ, you better listen. Well, you listen.

But all I'm telling you is. I do appreciate the broader conversation. You said you better listen to Jesus. That's right. But we thank you for your conversation. I appreciate the platform. I really do. But let's be very careful that we are not so blindsided, stuck, and regressive in our

feelings that we're not able to hear clearly the facts and the truth. Ladies and gentlemen, Ebony K. Williams. Ebony K. Williams. That's it. All right. Well, that was your rumor report, too. Bus driver gate continues. Bus driver gate.

Bus driver gate. All right. People's Choice Mix is up next. We'll see you guys. Eb, you guys love her, man. All right. But we should do this more often. It's just a conversation. This should have happened last week, actually.

Yeah, I agree. It's the People's Choice Mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Good morning, everyone. Good morning. Good morning. We're taking your calls. We know it was pretty spicy up here this morning. It was. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. We're taking your calls. We know it was pretty spicy up here this morning. It was. I was surprised. You got a little heat there.

Beige rage. Beige rage. What you think, Mama? I understand your point. So basically, I want to touch on things really quick. Ebony said, I can definitely feel the emotionality behind all the comments. Ebony said, I can definitely feel the emotionality behind all the comments that Ebony

received behind what she said based on her personal preference. Let's remember, Ayanna asked her who she would date. This was all about who Ebony would date. A lot of people were bringing all of their emotions on what a black woman should want from a black man

versus what they actually get from a black man versus, you know, what they actually get from a black man or what their expectations are supposed to be. And I think the real basis behind what she was saying was not that working in those bus driver positions or not working in the business class or working class is a bad thing or that people shouldn't accept those things, but more so that you can always be better. It doesn't matter that she had a white fiance and not want to want the advancement for her people. That's not the point of the conversation. The point of the conversation is you can be okay with being a bus driver.

You can also be okay with being a bus driver owner or have the CDL and things like that or whatever. But people have to continue to progress or want to progress. You know, coming from my position, for example, I have a mother who always wanted better, who always wanted to progress, who came from being a single mother, having worked three jobs, decided to go to school and get her degrees, and is now making a six-figure income and working for herself and things like that. She actually did divorce a man at one point who was just okay and complacent

and being in a working-class position. That doesn't necessarily mean she was down on him or didn't respect him in his position in his ability to be the provider but he knew he wanted to continue to level up he knew that he wanted to continue to advance to a lifestyle that he wanted that he wasn't oh he was okay with not having you know and at that point that's when they became Unable to go At that point Is when they realized That their marriage Wasn't gonna work You know And see what I said

Of course people Can be together I think you got it I think you got it I think she got it As far as You can't be mad at Ebony For her preference

And I think that is What Ebony's overall Conversation is That she wants everybody To realize their full potential You know what I mean I just Once again

The only problem I have With it is The wording You know what I mean I don't think that The working class should be referred to as average mediocre or typical and she she said she didn't mean it in that way she just using words and that was that was that was my my problem i just i just didn't you know she's she could prefer who she wants to date she could date who want marry who she wants but when i heard that it just bothered me because

i i know where my parents started from i know know where I started from. And she cleared it up. She said she didn't mean it like that. Hello, who's this? Vicky. Hey, Vicky. Good morning. Talk to us. Good morning. I appreciate Charlamagne and the outlook on essential workers and just life in general. I live in Charleston, South Carolina. 843. That's it.

I'm a single mother of four. I have three boys and one girl. My two boys are on the road kids, athletic kids. I did not graduate high school. I take care of my children. Damn. I am a night auditor full time, and I do Uber to make my ends meet. So when Ebony says the things that she says, it's a downer because you're saying that the little things that we do strive and do doesn't matter.

No, I get it. And that's not right. I get it the only thing i can say is you know i don't i you know she said this morning that wasn't her intention i don't i don't if you ever read her book bet on black i don't think that's her intention i think she really does want to see you know black people prosper but i think we you know we do have to be cognizant of other people's feelings and we got to be cognizant of our language because words definitely do matter right and i and i just i always want to say too that it's always open to have a conversation right

we don't everybody doesn't have to agree with each other i said some things out there that you guys out there don't agree with and and charlamagne says some things but i've never said anything people don't agree that's a goddamn lie but uh we should be able to have that conversation at any given point and be able to talk about it and shake hands and give each other hugs after. We should be able to. Weezy and Mandy, y'all still here. Y'all know that, right? Just want to make sure.

Oh, I'm still thinking about it. I'm here. I ain't going to. I mean, I'm not going to hold you. I have some probably unpopular takes, which is why I'm going to be quiet on a lot of things. No, go ahead. I just think even for the callers calling in, like, yes, you can try as hard as you can. But I do believe the partner that I have, the friends that I keep around me, I want them to strive to do more than what they are.

So I do also have a problem with people that I feel are complacent and just accepting what they're doing and not striving for more. I do think it was said wrong. I think Ebony's delivery could have been much better. And I do think as individuals, once someone is condescending or once you feel attacked, that your ears are not open to listening to what all she's saying. But why do you have a problem with people that feel complacent? Oh, I just said I ain't dating them and they're not my friends. I don't, I personally strove my hardest. I did AP courses.

I went above and beyond. I could have got one bachelor's degree. Instead, I got two. I'm one of those that continuously above and beyond. I could have got one bachelor's degree. Instead, I got two. I'm one of those that continuously wants to climb. The people around me are that way. I personally don't want people around me that are complacent and not striving for more. Envy, you got one house, two house, three houses. You wanted more.

Like, you continuously want more for yourself. Charlamagne, you do the same. Weezy, as my partner, you do the same. People around me, but people around me, and i think in what she wants as a partner it's okay to say that's not good enough for me it could be good enough for you two things can be true i do think it was delivery but unfortunately i agree not in her delivery but in what she said those aren't the people i want around me and i want my people my my partners, my friends to do better. If you had four kids, Mandy, would you be able to do all that you're doing now?

Probably not. Oh, I ain't going to hold you. That's why I'm pro-choice like a mother. I do not want kids. Pull out the vacuum. I want to focus on me. So, I ain't out here talking about I'm a single mama. Am I?

That ain't my story. I hope you guys have a permanent guest spot for me. I won't say this, though. I don't care what people do. If they're my friend. I don't care if they're bus drivers, if they work at AT&T, if they are whatever. If they're good people, they're good people. They can be good people.

You ain't going to invite them on your trips because they can't afford to go on the trips with you. I got friends that go on my trips. Yeah, I got friends. That's real. That's real. I recently paid for one of my friends to come on a trip because he's a hard-working-ass friend.

He's my best friend. He's an amazing person. He's lit as hell. He runs our tour. And you know what? At the end of the day, like, some people deserve to be gifted. My choices in life,

you know, took me somewhere else. That's right. But that don't mean I'm leaving them people behind. I'm going to always make space for good people. And I think that's what we're missing. I think we're missing that

in this conversation. Regardless of what position you're in in life, professionally or personally, I'm going to always find a place for a good person. And I just remember being in college, right?

Being at Hampton University and everybody going to their business classes and their stock classes and being an accountant in business and communications and all this. And they asked me what I'm going to do.

I said I was going to be a DJ, right? And they all laughed. Oh, this, that, and the other. Yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. The people that said, I don't care what you're going to be. You're a good person. Those are still my friends now. Yeah.

Still my friends now. But they love you for you. They love me for me now. Because they heard you on the ones and twos. We don't say ones and twos no more. But they... Ones and twos. Ones and twos.

I ain't never heard you DJ. But they believe in me as a person. And those people are still around me now that I went to college. And the rest of them dudes are probably... I don't know what you DJ But they believed They believed in me as a person And those people Are still around me now That I went to high school To college And the rest of them dudes Are probably I don't know what they're doing now

Nor do I care I married my best friend Who believed in me You and me both You know what I mean I didn't marry you Your girl Your wife

But I married my best friend I know what you mean You know what I mean I just need to be sure If y'all was single You would marry Charlamagne He's not my type He's not your type

He's too short If he's not my type He's too short He don't got a vagina too short i mean you don't know what i got what i identify as sir he says the positive note is simply this man uh it's just a little financial advice. Don't go broke trying to look rich. Hack your wage. I know that's right. Final note for me. If you are a good looking bus driver, that's all I really want.

See? Can you take me to eat? Final note for me. It's a hot girl summer slide in my DMs. What's up? I'm saying I ain't going back to that. I would love to take a ride. All right.

You feel me? But also, wait. Before we go, uh-uh. Make sure y'all tune in to Horrible Decisions every Monday. We would love to take a ride. All right. You feel me? But also, wait, before we go, uh-uh. Make sure y'all tune in to Horrible Decisions every Monday. We are on the Black Effect Network.

We've been with them since day one, photo one. Hello, just killed the Black Effect Festival in Atlanta. And talk about the tour. I was about to say,

we are going on tour. We are going on a 16, looking ahead of city, so potentially 17 city tour kicking off in June. We are hitting the Midwest. So if you want to hear about more pee, watch people f***ing each other, things like that, come to the tour.

But you ain't going to see it in person. But we're going to talk about it potentially. Make sure you go to whorehive.com and get your tickets. We're kicking off June 9th in Detroit, followed by Cincinnati, then ending in Chicago that same weekend. So there's June 9th, 10th, and 11th. And again, if you're looking for another podcast and you want to hear us talk about some real stuff,

it's Horrible Decisions. Type in whore, we pop up. That is not on the list. We can actually say whore. So, type in whore, we pop up. It's Horrible Decisions. Thank you, Charlamagne, for always vouching for us. Guys, guys, guys.

I mean, you're starting in the D, but you know you're back tomorrow. Like, you're acting like you're signing off forever. Yeah, no, no, no, no. You're coming back tomorrow. They want tickets to move today. I was about to say, we got to sell these tickets. I'm not mad know you're back tomorrow. You're coming back tomorrow. We're coming back tomorrow. I was about to say, we got to sell these tickets. Thank you. We'll be back tomorrow.

We don't want to be behind that wheel on the bus. It's the Breakfast Club. Bye, y'all. Breakfast Club, bitches! You all finished or y'all done? Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag.

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