The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: Wendy Williams’ New Test Rules Out Dementia, Kirk Franklin Opens Up About His Son & Sexuality + Kardea Brown Interview

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Kardea Brown talks about her new cookbook Make Do With What You Have, celebrating Charleston cuisine, and her recent Emmy wins. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to a man arrested for domestic abuse just hours after being released from jail. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Shal, I'm making the God. Peace to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is? Pump day? Ah! How y'all feel out there? I feel blessed black and highly favorite.

Happy to be here, another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. What's up, Jess? What's up, y'all? How are you good? My voice. You know what? I can tell I'm about to come down with something in the next couple of days.

I can feel it coming. It's the kids, ain't it? I don't even know if it's the kids. I haven't really caught a cold. flu or anything in a long time and I think it's just time for me. It's probably the change of weather and you don't be taking care of yourself. You know what I'm saying? You don't be putting all the right vitamins and minerals in your body throughout the year.

Okay. Okay. Mr. Plastic baggy vitamin man. Okay. Yeah, every morning. I see. Every day. I'm being here like an old man because I am. He sure did. He sure did. And Janko Bolova. All right. And soursop gummies. All types of stuff. Soursoap gummies. Yes. But I do it every morning. I take my

stuff every morning when I get up. That's my routine. When I do my facial stuff, I do my vitamins. as well. You do a facial? Yes, I do. Every morning. He do. Like, you get, you know, I put a little vitamin C, you know, moisturizing. I got my exfoliating cream and my vitamin C. I do all of that.

And the sunblock and all that, you know. Same to me. I can't never let nobody live. Yeah, I do that too. Like, okay. All right. Because I be getting tired of Envy coming in here looking like a sugar cookie during the winter.

You ain't been watching them the last 15 years. I'm glad that he finally taking care of his skin. You don't know about sugar cookie, man. That's how you been looking when it get cold. You like sugar cookies. You came in there. with the power code on. You look like an episode of power.

Like you're about to go film. It's cold. It's cold out. Yesterday it was snowing. They said they expect a little bit of flurries today. So I'm just being warm. That's all. Yeah.

Oh. Well, get everybody sick up there. Who you at? I'm in Atlanta. I'm reporting from the Atlanta studio. Make Louis B. By you breakfast.

Oh, no. He's doing it. He's on it right now. Because he's going to come to you with a bunch of jingle ball drops. He's going to try to get you to read. Already sent three of them to my phone already. And it's only 602. You know, I'm like, yo, relax.

Like so he definitely getting me breakfast or whatever But yeah I'm down in Atlanta So all right well this morning Chef author Food Network host Cardier Brown Cardier Brown South Carolina zone Low country dropping a clues bond for Cardier Brown

Okay She got a new cookbook out called Make Do With What You Have 100 delicious new recipes From favorite old school meals And as you just said She has a show on the food network Called Delicious Miss Brown

She's got an amazing restaurant In the Charleston Airport Called Cartier Brown's Southern Kitchen So she'd be here to talk to us about our type of things. Nice. All right. And up next, Mimi's going to be breaking down everything that's going down from the government shut down. Are we opening? When are we opening?

She'll break all that down. So don't go anywhere. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess O'Lari. Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. Let's get in some front page news.

Yes. And another way to avoid colds is to not sag your pants. Envy likes to sag his pants. I don't sag my pants. That cold air gets right in your ass crack. Next thing you know you coughing. And sneezing. and blowing the nose everywhere. What is wrong with you?

Yo, the cold air getting in his crack, y'all? There's no cold air in my crack. I saw him yesterday with a hoodie on sagging his pants. I'm like, boy, that cold egg is going to get right in your ass. I didn't wear a hoodie yesterday. You were just looking at my ass. I was not looking at you. I was looking at a grown man sagging.

Like, why is he still doing this? I didn't have a hoodie yesterday, and I don't sag my pants. Come on, Mimi. I'm sorry. Good morning, Mimi. Good morning, M.V. Shalameen. How y'all doing? Because Jess is the only one out in here cutting up.

Right. Good morning, girl. Good. All right, so we started this morning in Washington where the House is back in session for the first time since September, and they are set to vote today on a bill that would reopen the government. Now, lawmakers will be voting on that same funding bill package that the Senate passed on Monday night, which would keep the government running through January 30th. It also includes what is called a mini-bust, three major spending bills that would fund everything from road and bridges to school meal programs.

And that bill also fully funds the SNAP program through next September. Now, the House is expected to meet today at noon Eastern standard time with the first order of business swearing in the Arizona Democrat Adelita Grivalda. After that, members will turn their attention on debating and voting on that funding bill. But already there is a clear split. House Minority Leader, Hakeem Jeffrey, says Democrats, they are united in voting against the measure because it lacks those subsidies for the Affordable Care Act. Let's listen to what he had to say. Listen, it's unfortunate that you had eight or so Democrats, seven Democrats who made the decision to vote in a different way than the overwhelming majority of the Senate Democratic caucus and what you'll see from the overwhelming majority of House Democrats when the bill comes over to us. But they're going to have to explain themselves.

This fight continues. And over the last several weeks, we have successfully elevated this health care issue such that the American people are demanding action. And now it's going to be on Mike Johnson and House Republicans to demonstrate. Are they willing to actually do something for someone other than the wealthy, the well-off, and the well-connected? No, they're not. And there's an opportunity to do it by making sure that the Affordable Care Act tax credits are extended. Every single Democrat stands behind that proposition in the House. Let's see what the Republicans decide to do.

You know what they're going to decide to do. The fact that people keep acting like Republicans give a damn about the poor and working classes is insanity to me. But it's good to keep pointing out. that they don't. Yeah, well, it is definitely good to keep pointing it out. That means that Speaker Mike Johnson, he has a razor thin margin to get this done today. So once Gravalda is sworn in,

the breakdown will be 219 Republicans to 214 Democrats, meaning he can only afford to lose about two GOP votes if he wants to pass the bill without Democratic help. Now, if that bill clears the House today, we'll go straight to the president's desk for his signature, officially ending the shutdown, restoring pay benefits, and key services nationwide. So we'll see what happens with that. But while that is happening, there's another something brewing on the other side for the Senate.

They are kind of trying to figure out more about the Affordable Care Act because Republicans say that they are open to extending part of that ACA funding that's set to expire at the end of the year. But there is a catch. Now, they want tougher abortion restrictions on insurance. plan in in exchange for their vote. So Republicans say that they will not agree to an extension unless the new bill includes stronger language tied to the Hyde Amendment. The Hyde Amendment is what bans federal money being used for abortion. And Democrats say that that protection already exists. But Republicans led by Senator John Thune, he insists that without those new limits on abortion, there will not be enough GOP votes to extend the Affordable Care Act funding at

all. I don't believe anything Republicans say in neither should you. Republicans have zero reasons to make any concessions. They got everything they want in that big deadly bill. So what reason do they have to play ball? Yeah. Well, we will continue to watch that. And while lawmakers

argue over how to reopen the government, millions of Americans are still waiting on something more basic, just food money. So the Supreme Court has once again hit pause yesterday on whether the Trump administration has to send out those full snap benefits during the shutdown. That means about 42 million people who rely on food stamps are still waiting to find out if they will fully get their November benefits.

Now, the court's order issued late last night or late Tuesday evening keeps everything frozen until Thursday night. So it's not a final decision. It's just a temporary hold that gives Congress time to act. Now, if lawmakers pass the funding bill and reopen the government before then, and those snap benefits would automatically be restored, ending that standoff during that dissent. Justice Katanji Brown Jackson. She was the only member of the Supreme Court to publicly disagree saying that the payment

should go out immediately. So for now, the freeze stays in place. Millions of families, though, are still wondering if their grocery money will show up this week. So listen, once again, I want everybody who, you know, wants Democrats to hold the line. Make sure

you're donating to your local food banks, okay? Make sure you're donating to these community organizations that are providing food for people in these communities, all right? Just don't be getting on social. media and your Instagram and making your videos talk about how Democrats should hold the line in the Democrats case. Don't do all of that if you're not

donating to your local food banks and local community organizations that are providing food for people during this season. That's right. All right. Thank you, Mimi. All right. Really quickly, coming up at seven, Americans say that they are being priced of the American dream. A new idea that could help, but experts are warning. It may not be as simple as

it sounds. We'll talk about it in next hour. And everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Call a up right now is the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club wake up wake up with your ass this is your time to get it off your chest whether you're mad or blessed we want to hear from you on the breakfast club hello who's this hey this is brihanna

good morning get it off your chest hey enzy hey jess hey charla i'm calling in today because i am a feral essential worker and I just heard Charlemagne's rant about Trump Martin and he really can bite it because at the end of the day our lives and our livelihoods have been sacrificed for other Americans and we're not getting nobody's speaking up for us

that's true what just happened to us for the last 41 days is wrong we are all livelihoods we're used as political times we have incompetent leaders with both parties Schumer and Jeffries both need to step down horrendous horrendous incompetent to sacrifice the strategy that they have came up with is let's hold this group of Americans hostage while we try to help this group of Americans.

How asternine is that? Like, these are the leaders, these are politicians, these are the people that we're supposed to entrust to fight for us? Absolutely not. And Roland Martin can bite it. I'm sick of him. And you ate him up, Charlemagne. Thank you.

Rightfully so. I'm sorry you're going through it first and foremost. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. I hate these conversations so much. but nobody ever talks about the federal workers. Nobody talks about the fact y'all ain't been paid in 40 plus days as if 67% of the country ain't living paycheck to paycheck

as if y'all landlord don't want their money and electric companies don't want their money. Do you know what it's like to come to work and see people getting evicted? People crying about not being able to feed their kids sending their kids off to live with relatives because we don't know where our lives stand. People have invested their careers, their lives into these positions. They take care of full families and for them to sacrifice them for 40-something days.

It's ridiculous. this is our peak season. So we've been in here, but now overtime for $0 and just to watch the news and watch all these politicians not even speak up about us. It's like, oh, we know people aren't getting paid anyways. Like, what's like a business is that? I'm telling you, that's what I said during donkeys.

It's just like they talk about it. Like, it's just so nonchalantly. Like, we understand people. Like, we're so insignificant. I get it. I'm sorry again, Mom. I'm sorry you got to go through it. Yeah.

No problem. I'm happy to still stay here and protect my fellow Americans in my country. the end of the day. It's not our fault. We as a people have to stick together. So all my other essential federal workers out there, all my furlough fellow workers out there, stand strong, stay tough. Only we know where we have been through for these last 41 days because we are the only ones that have been affected by outside of the other, you know, snap recipients or whatnot. But I just want to send out some love and positivity to everybody

that has made it through the shutdown since we are near in the end. Just love and blessings to everybody. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest, guys. Thank you. Absolutely. Salute to all the federal workers out there getting lost. We're lost in the conversation, man. We salute you. You know, the crazy thing I was driving in, and there was a soldier who was supposed to get deployed. And he couldn't get deployed

because the people that do the clerical work were off work. So he was supposed to be home for Thanksgiving and Christmas, but now since we're not going back, he doesn't have another appointment of January 5th. So because the government shut down, he won't be coming home until after Christmas and Thanksgiving. Come on, man. And you don't know if that's going to be his leave.

God forbid, I hope he gets a million more Christmases. But what if you don't? Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, people are crazy. Like, I don't know why nobody's thinking about the federal workers, man. It makes no sense. Man, imagine watching a federal worker who ain't never been on snap or nothing

have to come to the food bank to get groceries because they can't afford to get food. That's the type of stuff I'm seeing. So that's why my mindset is the way that it is. Well, get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. I'm telling. I'm telling. Hey, what you doing, man? I'm darling. I'm call call a yo. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed.

800-585-105-1. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this? Yeah, this got the 803. See, what up? Metro, what's happening? Get off your chest, bro. What's going on, Shaillamaine?

These Jenkinsville, but it's all right. I miss with Metro, too. Yes, sir. What's going on with our, what's that, Envy? What's up, Jamie? What's up, baby? Get it off your chest, brother. Hey, man, that's so glad this shutdown is over, man.

and the people being able to get their benefits and stuff back because that was messed up. They take people through all that just for the little politics that you do. 100%. But if y'all do, when y'all do get it back, don't go out here selling these stamps, man. If y'allel at me.

That's stupid, man. Hey, not coming. They beat the 400. The price is still a long line. It's the holiday season, man. They might trade a little bit of them stamps for, you know, some cash. That's right.

Yeah, there you go. One more time, hey, four you have that go, because I know you will. Can I shot for a podcast up? Yeah, I think you shouted out last time, but you was all over the place there. Go ahead, do it again, brother. I'm a shoot out every time I call, man.

I got to get it out there. The best call family big. Shout out the part about nothing, but we talk about nothing and a little bit of everything at the same time. Shot for a boy Marley Valley out, Johnny. We're in Spiders and Saturday night. We're on Spotify now.

It's growing support. I appreciate it. All right, brother. Have a good one. That's right. Hey, yo, salute to the lady. Gamecox, too, man, number two team in the country. They beat the Clemson Tigers last night.

Big South Carolina business, 65 to 37, okay? Salute to Tania Latson and Joyce Edwards and Raven Johnson. They got busy last night. Hello, who's this? Good morning, good morning. DJ, Hey, what's hiding with you, brother? What's up, brother? This is your guy, Mr. Show Money.

What's up? Yes, how long. What's going on? Good morning, Mr. Show Money. My brother, Saul, Man, the guy. Peace, my brother. Peace, King. What's the word?

Listen, listen, man, listen, I need my breakfast club family to get involved in this effort. So far, we've fed, like, so many families drop their stuff for them. And we got to get involved. We're going to Restaurant, Depot, shop, right, and out of these. Right now, we're feeding the family of four for about $52 of families. They're breaking it down with some of the turkey, stuffing, all of the stuff that y'all don't. Like for Thanksgiving, me guys to get involved. Please,

please, please, the cash app is Uncle U, Uncle Y U-N-N-N-0-8. Uncle Y-U-908. DJ Envy. I know, everybody know, you have six kids. We get it. But if you

can do anything for these families, I would appreciate it. That cash happened ain't coming up either, bro. And we get money All you alone. So. The cash app is in my bio. Oh.

See, I'm sorry. I spelled you like a regular person. He said why. Yeah. Uncle why you. Got you. So listen, Jess, I know you got the babies and everything. I know.

Whatever y'all. How many kids you got, Jeff? You got it. You're walking down on me. Yeah, yeah. Aaron got two. Yeah, see, I'm saying, listen, my, my point. is that I know y'all

have families. And you know what I mean? My point is that we try to feed 100 families this and is giving around $52 per family. We're getting it done. We're dropping this food off to these people. You got mothers out here. You've got the fathers

out here who are by themselves trying to feed their family. We just want to get this done. We already spread about 30, 40 family. You got about making more families to go. We do have families, but we also have other families too, like my

aunts and cousins and all that type stuff that. What I'm saying. Right. Well, I'm feeding them too. I'm feeding a lot of people. So I'm not just feeding my family. I just don't want that notion out there. Like, it's just about me and my kids.

I'm doing a lot for other families too. Yeah, and Mr. Showmoney, you in Newark, man. Go check out Congressman Kelly's nonprofit 211 Community Impact. You know, They partnered with some food banks out there. I made a donation to them as well.

So you go check out the 211 community impact in Newark with Congressman Kelly, man. They're doing some stuff for people over the holidays as well. Yeah, and if you are in Newark, November 17th, Monday, I'll be out there with Mayor Ross Baraka. And we'll be doing a turkey and food giveaway. I'm going to that too. You're going to that too. Yeah, so we do do it in different areas, but that is Monday, November 17th. It starts at 10 o'clock.

They say arrive by 9.30. arrive early. It's going to be a lot of people out there that need everything. They need food. They need size. They need everything. I do it each and every year. So I'll be out there Monday, November 17th. So salute to the mayor of Newark, Ross Baroque. All right. Now, we got the ladies for Lauren come out. L.L. Cool, babe. What's happening? Good morning, y'all. I'm going to get you a cold for the winter, man. I got a coat outside. I work coat in here.

You do? Yeah. Like, showing that stomach. Yeah, it's flat. I tell how about that all the time. Y'all, this is throw on clothes. We're in move mode. Okay. So, You throw that on even when you wasn't moving. You're right. I love to show the stomach. But I do have a coat, though. I got coat outside.

It's okay. You're going to let us show your ass coughing and sneezing, too. You keep showing that goddamn stomach. Always want to show shape. Watch what you're happening. First of all, I have a very nice coat. I take my vitamins. I'm good, okay, but thank you guys.

Dang, good morning. We do have the latest coming up. Y'all know who we have not talked about in a while up here. And people have been asking me about Wendy Williams. And yesterday, there was a story that broke. That is a bit confusing for the people. so I've done some digging. We're going to clarify some things this morning.

Okay. All right. We'll get into all that. When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Lauren becomes a free fat.

Tell us. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets to detail. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything.

on the breakfast club Talk to me. Hello, Kube. Good morning. Hey, Jess. All right. So, Wendy Williams, all right. I, if I'm being honest,

feel like we started a blender for Wendy Williams in a conversation that we had here with the very first conversation we started. And I'm going to explain why after I tell you what just happened. So yesterday there was a report that broke. TMZ did an exclusive that Wendy Williams underwent a ton of additional testing

in New York to figure out whether she has the frontal temporal temporal dementia or not. The story said that she did the testing with a bunch of different neurologists who are top neurologists. It didn't mention like from what hospital or anything like that. And you guys remember

some months back there was a story that leaked that Joe Tocopina, who was one of Wendy's attorneys told me they were really pissed about because the legal records or the medical records should not have leaked that said she did have dementia. So there's down these two big medical reports

from very top neurologist. that are saying two very different things. So in the story yesterday Joe Takapina says that what they plan to do is submit these testing results to a judge and to the court of course try to get Wendy out of this conservatorship and if the judge does not

just go along with the new testing that they have he's going to request a trial by jury which is what he's been saying for some time as well too. What happened with Wendy I was BFFs? You spoke to her every week and then all of a sudden everything just stopped. I have no I mean you can't I can't pick up the phone and call her but the person that I was

talking to that was working with her, is no longer working with her. I do reach out to Joe Tecuh. Yeah, Gina Lisa and shout out to her. I do reach out to Joe. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you. Don't let them down. Unlock Elite Gaming Tech at Lenovo.com. Dominate every match with next level speed, seamless streaming, and performance that

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And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history. And some of the worst people. Horrible ideas and destructive. of companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want.

First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're going to have mavericks on the show. We're going to have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what?

They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great. moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked, like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood,

a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arnest, a trailblazer, a businessman, a husband, and maybe, most importantly, the first Latino to break primetime wide open. I'm Wilmer Valderrama, and yes, I grew up watching him, probably just like you and millions of others. But for me, I saw myself in his story.

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It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Month, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo, somebody had tomatoes. Now, I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head.

We made a mistake. The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. We failed. But this podcast is about that And how we made it through So when they sat me down They were kind of like We got into the small talk And they were just like, so what do you got? What? What ideas?

And I was like, oh no. What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcast, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. But, you know, I get responses when I can I can't really answer that question. But we did have a direct line

And that has slowed down. But it's okay because I always find my way in. Is she still out and about? Is she still coming out? Wendy is. Yep, she's still out and about. Actually, I just saw a photo of her. She was at Joe Takapina's son's wedding. But yeah, Wendy's been out and about. She's definitely been outside. And she's been looking good, too. Yeah. So, okay. I haven't seen her out since Fashion Week, though. Well, the follow that I saw for the Joe Takapina's son's wedding was in the story that we're talking about right now. But

other than that, it was Fashion Week and Laquine Smith and New Yorker and all that stuff. But she's moving around to my point. So listen. Here's the questions that I got some answers to. So when you go to a judge and you're like, we have these two very different test results from two very good doctor sources, right? And I've confirmed for a fact that when Wendy took that first round of testing

that was requested by the conservatorship, Wendy's team had to okay those doctors. They had to say, yes, we believe these doctors are legit. They come from a high, very well-known hospital, all the things. That test came out that she does have the dementia. Now, Joe Tecapena had told me that they were going to do independent testing outside of that. That is what this is.

There have been reports that the doctors originally, the original doctors walk back their reports and change their mind. That is not what happened. These are separate doctors. What's going to happen is they're going to get into court. And from what I'm told, it's going to basically be a battle of the doctors, which will put Wendy in a really bad place.

Because even if a judge says, and I'm told that it's probably very, it's probably not going to happen that a judge does not see any brain damage whatsoever. But even if a judge does say she doesn't have the dementia, there are things that will be shown in these testing from either doctor. So any cognitive, what's the word, cognitive impairments? Yes. And so what I was,

I'm a decline, I guess. Yeah, so what I was told by a person, you know, who's worked on this for some time and has been very close in the situation is that right now, this puts Wendy in a position where even if they walk back things and allow things to open up a bit for her, she's still going to have to live a life that she has been very vocal about she does not want to live. She doesn't want to have a aid with her. her all the time. She doesn't want to have people. That's not up to her though. Because if she is

having problems and her brain is declining and her mental is declining, she's going to need somebody. A hundred percent. But I'm just saying, I think when you open up, you know, the floodgates, things will come. And I'm very interested in this is why I reached out to Jotechapina to understand legally what their strategy is because at this point, you kind of just are like, you're adding more fuel to the fire because in all these findings, you're going to see things that maybe you wouldn't even want to have a conversation about because you want to keep the main thing and the main thing. But maybe she'll be let out a little more it won't be as I guess

she's stuck in this quote unquote you know high in jail as she says you know what I mean so maybe she'll be able to go out with some family maybe she'll have different aids but hopefully it depends on what the judge decides go ahead Jess and then when she be outside right like because like shard said we haven't really really seen her out a lot since New York Fashion Week but I think it was

it was a video when she'd be like outside in New York and she'd be on her scooter or whatever are the people she mean on her school she has like Wendy on wheels you know she'd be rolling up around Wendy on wheels is a great Wow

But you know the video is like good Does she be out And the people be going to fit check One of the influences that walked down on her Yeah And asked you know did a fit check with her Then she was shopping Like are they

When we see her like that Are they with her Or is I mean are you asking me A gross thing set up? Yeah Like normally I can't Does she just say

Yo I want to go out today And then they just take her out I can't answer that question indefinitely but most of the time I know you yes You do let people know where you're going to be but I did ask that too

like she's been moving around a lot right now and I know she doesn't want people up under her and all in her business and she wants to make her own decisions but who is her person right now making sure she's straight because she's talked about having addiction issues right and that's what caused a lot

or added to a lot of the issues she's having and they're saying that she has various security guards that have been like the people but I would like to I would like to salute Gina Lisa drop on the clues bond for Gina Lisa Gina Lisa is the reason

that Wendy got all emotion she got now to begin with personally I believe she was in better hands when she was with Gina Lisa. You know, Joe Tocopino is a great lawyer, but you need more than a great attorney. You need someone who knows that guardianship situation inside and out. That's Gina Lisa's world.

So any of the freedom that Wendy has now, it's because of Gina Lisa. It's because of the work that Gina Lisa did prior. That's why when you saw things slow down on Wendy's case, it seemed like, and you know, it seemed like she went back to ground zero. It was because Gina Lisa was no longer. So what happened with

Gina Lisa? That's a Gina Lisa conversation. Yeah, that's not... Yeah, not nothing I can speak to, but I will say that things have been a bit different since everything that Charlemagne has said. But, you know, I wish Wendy the best. And I'm going to, of course, try and stay in as much as I can. But when I saw this report, I was like, man, this is going to be a battle of like, what does she have and what does she not? And hopefully it ends up where she can get things, you know, just softer in the lifestyle that she's living. But we don't even know everything that the test results say.

So you've kind of kind of have to, like, cross your fingers here. And last, I just always wonder when things like this is finances, right? Because you've got to pay for where you're staying. You've got to pay for attorneys. You have to pay for all these tests. Yes. How long do the finance last? Because I don't know her finances, but is money still coming in, you know?

Is she getting royalties from the shows or the show is still airing? Like, how are they taking care of finances, right? Because she's paying her conservatorship, right? That comes out of her check, right? That is what Wendy Williams said. Now, I would say I can't answer that fully, but I did check in on that A&E. lawsuit because remember that was happening there was a toss up there about that and how things were going not going money for did she profit off that right now inside a standstill there

no one's profiting off of anything and they say they didn't even know of these uh this testing but it's because it's independent so we'll wrap up now i'm doing it i see the i see the wrap up just had a question i'm going to answer that is that is it y'all right of my face charlemagne now when we come back we got front page news so don't move it's the breakfast club good morning Good morning, everybody. It's the EJNV. Jess O'Lari, Shalameen Nguyen. We are to Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news. What up, Mimi? Good morning, NB., Jess. Shalameen. How y'all doing this morning? Good morning. All right, so we start this hour with the latest on air travel. And so while the shutdown may be near an end, the travel headaches, they are not over just yet. Transportation Department says it plans to begin easing flight limits at dozens of major airports. Only once safety improves and more air traffic controller. are back on the job. During the shutdown, many controllers who've been working without pay called out, causing delays and cancellations that have frustrated travelers across the country. A transportation

secretary, Sean Deffi, though, he does say things are starting to look better. Let's listen. Saturday, Sunday, Monday, very rough travel days, significant cancellations, and significant delays. However, today has been a much better day. A lot more air traffic. controllers are coming in. So just for comparison, on Saturday, we had 81 staffing triggers. Today we have four. So I think our air traffic controllers are seeing an end to the shutdown and feel more hopeful, and they're coming into their facilities. So we're grateful to them for all that they're doing. So he went on to say about 24 to 48 hours after the shutdown ends, air traffic controllers can expect to be paid 70% of their pay, and they would

receive about 30% of their pay within a week after the shutdown being over. The FAA says flight cuts, though, they will remain in place until data shows that the system is stable again. And according to the numbers, the shutdown is costing the U.S. economy, about $14 billion a week, largely because of how much we rely on air travel to keep people as well as goods moving. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, he told Morning Joe that airline executives have already been reached, well, they were already reaching out to him before.

or a deal was announced, worried about what the shutdown was doing to their bottom line. Let's listen to that. How reliant is our economy on air travel, on the airwaves being open and us being able to move freight and move people across the United States? Well, it's a core tenet of that along with trucking and shipping. But in terms of business travel, I received several. texts from airline executives over the weekend before we got news that the shutdown might be ending

saying that they were quite worried for their businesses. There's always corporate interest over the interests of the people. If these airlines weren't being impacted, this shutdown probably would still be going on. I'll tell you that right now. And to say he got a text, which means that they were

worried about what, you know, how much longer was this going to go on and what that was going to mean for them and their bottom line to profits over people for sure. So for now, travelers can still expect some delays and cancellations, but airlines say that those delays are temporary. And once the shutdown officially ends, flight schedules could start to get back to normal within days. So now to housing and a plan that has a lot of people talking. So would you sign up for a 50-year mortgage just to afford a house?

That's the idea that the Trump administration is now floating, a loan that would stretch payments over five decades in effort to make home ownership more affordable. But experts say not so fast. They say, sure, your monthly payment might go down a few hundred dollars, but over time, you'd end up paying nearly twice as much in interest compared to a traditional 30-year loan. And because most of those payments will go toward interest, it would take nearly decades to actually build any equity, meaning that you'd own very little of your home for a very long time. So analysts warned this kind of mortgage could do more for the banks than it would for buyer. So letting lenders collect interest for about 20 extra years while families stay in debt longer.

It would also push home prices even higher since more buyers would be competing for the same limited number of homes. And the move comes as President Trump continues to face criticism over housing costs, even after campaigning on a promise to make everything more affordable for Americans. He was asked about the issue of affordability yesterday in the Oval Office. Let's hear what he had to say. The fake news yesterday, they talked about that. They said, oh, I don't want to talk about affordability. The reason I don't want to talk about affordability is because everybody knows that it's far less expensive under Trump than it was under sleepy Joe Biden. And the prices are way down. Caroline, could you discuss that question that was asked and how it was asked in such a fake, disgusting manner by the fake news?

affordability is what the American people elected this president to do and he is doing it and you guys refuse to cover it and you refuse to cover that the previous administration created the worst on affordability crisis in American history and I've been watching the TV all day saying that he doesn't want to talk about affordability that's what he's working on every day and that's what this administration is doing Donald Trump and his administration have no idea that people are broke like like when he's talking about people he's talking about people in his immediate circle that be at them dinners and stuff that they be having he's has no idea about what's going on with the working class and poor people in this country. The 50-year mortgage is two sides to it, right? Yes, somebody

could afford a house that they probably couldn't afford because it lowers the price of the actual mortgage. But people say you're paying more interest, which is true. But a lot of people are not going to have money to invest. Because people like, oh, you can take that money and invest. A lot of people don't have that money and invests and just want to buy a home but can't afford it because the prices of homes

are so high. You look in areas where whether it's California or New York or Atlanta, where people have to live, damn there, hour away or they got to live in a place that they can't because they can't afford it. So I see both sides of it. You know what I mean? Because people, at the end of the day, people want to actually own something and not be stuck, you know, in a rental or in the projects, you know. So I see both sides of it. Interrupting conversation. Yeah, for sure. They said, meanwhile, the house of home prices keep rising to your point,

NB. The typical household now spends about 40% of their income on mortgage payments as well above with financial experts consider affordable. And searches, on Google for help with mortgage have hit their highest level since 2009. The adjustable rate mortgage, they are back on the rise. And they said that's a sign that many Americans are just stretching what they can to stay in the market. I mean, I do want to know more about it, though, because I was reading something that they created the 30-year mortgage for the same exact reason they're talking about doing the 50-year mortgage. They want to make a home ownership more accessible to people. So I just, I mean, I just want more information on it.

Yeah, but I think because it's coming from Donald Trump and he has shown a lot of interest in, you know, putting more money with the banks. The 50-year loan is going to keep interest rates going, you know, for a very long time before you ever hit that principle. And so a lot of people are just pointing that out and that could, you know, definitely keep people in debt longer than it would. But to your point, NB, A lot of people just want to buy a home right now. Well, that is your front-page news.

I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi-Brown TV. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network. Download the free I-HeartRadio app or visit B-I-N-News.com. Thank you, Mimi-Brown. We got another Brown coming in right now. That's right. Cardiard, Brown, chef, author, and Food Network host.

And we're going to talk to her next. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious.

Charlemagne de Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lawlerosa's here as well. And we got a special guest in the building. Chef, author, Food Network host, Cartier Brown. Welcome. Hi. How are you feeling this morning?

I'm feeling good. How are you feeling? Bless black and highly favorite, man. I literally said this morning, man, we should have had Cartier cook. I know, you know what? Let me tell you what it took to get here. Okay. So my flight was canceled from Charleston.

Oh, right? But I knew it was going to be canceled. So something told me, just go ahead and book a trip on the Amtrak. You took the train? I took the train 14 hours. What? We should be cooking for you then. Right, exactly, right.

I need a little continental breakfast. And then the train got stuck in D.C. So when did you fly in? I didn't fly in. She just said, she said, she was scheduled to fly in. I was scheduled to fly in yesterday at 255. Damn. So I didn't get until 4 a.m. this morning.

And they can't, they already had canceled to death? They already canceled. Yikes. He was going on in the world? But I made sure I came. You made it. I made sure I was here. That's because you're supposed to be here.

We should have cooked some breakfast. Well, how are you feeling? I'm feeling good. You feeling good? I'm feeling great. I could have cooked you breakfast. No, you couldn't. She didn't want that struggle meal.

She said, use what you got. Exactly. So I could have, you know what did you have in your house? We could have did eggs, bacon, pancakes. I do a little fried apples. My grandmother does. Yep, that's the thing. Where are you from?

My grandma from Virginia. Okay, so yeah, that makes sense. So you just take the apples, slice them up, cut them up, and put them in a pan with, like, some butter or something. And the cinnamon, brown, little brown sugar. Yeah. Oh, I definitely could have took that. That's her favorite meal.

That's an easy breakfast. That is a very easy breakfast. No, because I haven't had any breakfast. So, you know, since your name been on the list that you were coming up here, Shalomaine's been salivating, right? Yeah. Just come to just roll down the mouth. So, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's find out.

How did you get into cooking? Like, let's start from the beginning. It's your first time here. How did you get into cooking? What made you realize that you wanted to get a chef? We got some time. Okay, so my grandmother and my mother are excellent cooks. My grandmother on my father's side was known for her red rice in Charleston.

Hey. Okay, you know, you know about that red rice. So, um, she was a cook at the Piglo Wiggly on Meeting Street. Pigley Wigley. Pigley. That's a grocery store for all you up north of, okay? So she was a cook, a long time cook there. But I get it from both sides of my family.

I do not have any professional background experience. I did not go to culinary school. It was just something I always loved to do. That food and pig wiggily used to be so good. You know, and it still is. The one on Savannah Highway, it's delicious. Okay. Fried chicken, you know, collard greens, red rice on Fridays.

My husband now knows about it. But so I started out with just like, my background is in social work. I went to school for psychology, just thought I was going to do something in the nonprofit world, which I did. I worked at Big Brothers Big Sisters. I did removal of children from homes and I did child placement. I did all of that. So in the midst of doing that because it's just a very hard job, you know. It's rewarding, but it's hard.

So I use cooking as an outlet for me my entire life. I've always done that. So there's some stress. and I was dating this guy who one day was like recording me I was like I don't know why he's recorded me I thought he was just gonna put him on Instagram I get a call maybe a few days later

from a producer who's like your boyfriend sent in a video of you cooking I was cooking in the kitchen so I'm sorry yes I was cooking you over there like I didn't know what was going I was cooking this is a chef's story what's wrong with y'all?

I was cooking I was cooking in the kitchen and he was recording me cooking and I got a call from producer. My bad, let me back up. So I got a call from a producer said, hey, we are featuring home cooks on this new show on the cooking channel and we want to feature you. We like your style of cooking. We like your personality. I thought it was a joke. I'm like, y'all are not about to come. I'm living in Jersey. I'm just cooking, you know, for fun. This is not serious.

You can't be. They were serious. They filmed the show over a course of like a weekend. And on the last day of filming, the producer came up to me and said, I think you, you have what it takes to be like a food personality. I think you should try it. I'm like, listen, I don't know what kind of jokes you got going on here, but this was fun. I'm going to go back to my cubicle on Monday and go back to my regular life. He was like, I really think you should give this a shot. You're natural at this.

I know you've never been on TV before, but if you let us pitch you, we want to pitch you to the Food Network. Wow. So they pitched me and, well, before that, something in me. It was just like, God, you wouldn't bring me this far and show me this if it wasn't something behind it. So the following week, I put in my resignation letter at work. Ooh. So your discernment just said, you know what? It's time to step out on faith. Nothing ever felt right as that weekend did. And so I stepped out on faith, sold all of my belongings, got on the Amtrak, and moved back down to Charleston and said this is what it's

going to be. I started a supper club called the New Gullah Supper Club, where it featured all of the gulliguchi dishes and I honed in on my skills and eventually they we did a sizzle reel and and food network kind of gave in was like oh we'll give you a shot and um it took about four or five years before that yes because I did get a no I got a few nose but I didn't take it as no it's not for you I heard it as no not right now yeah so I kept kept honing in on my skills kept kept doing my thing I did my supper club and I had little appearances here and there on the cooking channel and Food Network and eventually they gave me my shot

and with a proof of concept they saw the proof of concept and Greenlit the first season of Delicious Miss Brown and you've won two Emmys for that so far Wow Outstanding Culinary Instructional Series and outstanding culinary hosts

and the first black woman to do so Wow man it's so interesting right because you know you and Sunny Sunny was the first black woman that I know from culture right who's Sunny Anderson who broke through on the Food Network

How hard is that for a black woman to break through on the food network? I only know y'all too. Right. It is us. That's it. You know, I think over the years, they've gotten better with diversity and inclusion on the network. But for a long time, it was just Sonny, the Neely's. Oh, Neely.

I forgot about the Neely's. Yes. And chef Aaron with Big Daddy's house. But as far as a black woman, back then, all I knew was B. Smith. and yes God bless her soul but Sonny was the only one and Sunny was all you know

I tell anybody Sunny is who I looked up to and I saw her on there and I saw her being her authentic self and I was like if she can do it I can do it I can too but yeah it's just really been us

and then now Carla Hall is on the network as well but it's it's hard you know it's a white male dominated field in and out of television even with the culinary world in general, you know, most executive chefs, head chefs are white men.

When you used to work at CPS, what was the reason why you would take a child from a home? Like, because usually they say it takes a long time. It has to be almost like to the word. So what would be that reason? Like, how far does it go? Just, just curious. Deplorable environments. Like if you, you know, I've said before that sometimes CPS can let things slip through the cracks.

And on my watch, you know, any notices, anything like coming in, and seeing multiple reports of abuse and you walk into a home and you see that they're clearly living in deplorable environments. After that, in multiple cases and multiple write-ups, then it would warrant a removal from the home. Like, there's emergency removal where there's clear abuse, and then there's some that it takes some cases and some write-ups before that happens. I know a lot of parents are always scared that. My kids are going to come to the school and say, my mama hit me or my daddy hit me. But that doesn't get your kid taken out. No, not immediately.

No. We always want reunification, and we always want children to be in their homes. But if it's clear and there's multiple signs of something going on, then there has to be an investigation first before a child is just removed. Did a child ever complain that their parents couldn't cook and they wanted to be? Of course. That happens. That used to happen like, oh, I didn't want this or kids would complain.

Like, oh, I didn't get a chance to wear this. I wanted to wear those sneakers. They took my game for me or something. That's, you know. Don't you get mad when they call you to the house and you be like, you call them you because your mama took your game? Or even when I was a social worker and I had like, you know, kids on beyond like them being with their birthright families.

Like when I did child placement and they were with their temporary households and I would get calls on the, and I can hear the phone now, the on call phone and I would get some of my clients who would be like, well, I'm on punishment. So why are you on punishment? What happened? I got a couple of Fs. And so you decided to punch holes in the wall and do crazy stuff

because you got Fs on your report card. Now, how does that, 3 o'clock in the morning, like I got to go remove a child and put him in another home because of craziness. But, you know, kids will be kids. That's real.

I was going to ask, did those two worlds ever, like, collide at all? Like, did any of the kids that you helped find, like, placement homes or whatever? Now they watch you on a food network. You run into them. Like, did that ever happen? That recently just happened.

I also worked for Big Brothers, Sisters in Newark while I was living in Jersey and I recently hosted a Big Brothers Big Sisters meet and greet at my restaurant in Charleston, which was really nice as a full circle moment going from being a mentor manager at Big Brothers Big Sisters to hosting them at my restaurant and... The one airport? Cardiade Brown's Southern Restaurant. Yeah.

Yes. In Charleston Airport. So it came full circle to have them, you know, there. And I remember being a struggling social worker, you know, rubbing pennies together to make ends meat to having the same organization that kind of, that's organization I left before I started the Food Network show. And so to have them

at my restaurant, gosh, almost 10 years later, it meant a lot. You know, I've heard you say that your cooking is a love letter to the low country where we're from. What's one dish that best tells the story of where we're from, you think? Shrimp and grits. Yes,

absolutely. It's my favorite, you know, it's nothing and I tell people every time you come to Charleston, you have to have Charleston shrimp. like it's it's it's it's like none other you can go anywhere in the world and have seafood there is nothing like

low country seafood that that's my that's my favorite I gotta go I gotta come to Charleston that rice too though and a red rice but see you don't you don't eat pork in your red rice yeah but a lot of people cooking out with turkey though turkey you can do turkey some people do it vegan

who is what's the what's the guy's name that's from Charleston that has the late night no the late night show Stephen Colbert Stephen Colbert his wife put anchovies in her red rice yeah that sound like

raisin never you know I love you but god damn god damn anchovies and the rat rice so the holidays are coming up right

yes Thanksgiving so for people that that are not cookers right because there's a lot of women a lot of men out there that don't cook

what's an easy dish for people to make that can still impress some type of people like for instance Lauren has a new found man right She really doesn't know how to cook.

So what would you suggest her to cook to impress this gentleman? Don't do shrimp. Chicken Alfredo. We don't. For Thanksgiving, I would never. But see, everything, every time I see something on social media, everyone's like, oh, you got to do the Alfredo for, you know, for a day. We're not doing Alfredo.

For Thanksgiving, I would say a spatchcock turkey. That's super simple. People think that that takes a lot to make, and it really doesn't. You just take the backbone out the turkey or chicken. if you don't want to do a big chicken, I mean, a big turkey. Smash it flat down, season it, inject it with some, you know, some butter and some Creole juices, bake it off. And it's like the tasty, as juicy as turkey you will ever have.

There's some other recipes in there. I'm already getting all of any business in here. I mean, it's so simple. Like, you don't have to do a lot to impress someone. I say do something simple that takes a little less step so you don't get all flustered and stuff and just make it taste good. That's it. Presentation, too.

Has your husband ever hurt your feelings, right? Because you are a chef, right? Yes. He's sitting back there. Have you ever said, nah, that's not it? And you'd be like, what? Yes.

Several times. What meal was it? That he said, that's not it. What was the last meal? He was like, baby, you got to go try that again. I made this, I tried to make this, like,

jerk chicken and dumpling thing. And I made the dumplings with, like, frozen biscuits. It usually works. No, you got to make the biscuits from scratch. I know. I know. She had that much time.

I didn't have much time. And the, dumplings just kind of like it did something in there. It was it was yucky. It was thick. It was slimy. Also, he is a dessert snob. And he

will call somebody's cake dry in the heartbeat. Dry. I said, not me sitting on these. I am a judge on holiday baking championship, spring baking. I have no desserts. So I made a red velvet cake one time. He took a slice of the cake and said,

I need water. It's a little dry. I said A dry where I said do you If you put your finger I said the crumb on it Do you see the crumbies?

I don't know about all that I know is My Aunt Pam Wow Make a Wow Pam in there Aunt Pam make a good red velvet

cake And hers be a little buttery And it's a little dry I don't know what you want me to tell you So wasn't in business or something Did you I thought I did right I put my stick of butter in there

A little oil For me technically A stick of butter A stick of butter I guess a pan put about two or three sticks in there. I thought one stick would be enough. 12 tablespoons I'm measuring. He was like, no,

it's dry. So what happens after that? After he tells you it's too dry or it don't taste too good? So what's your next move? Mumbling across the house. Did you finish a piece of cake or no? He threw it away. Damn! That's cold. But then I thought about it too

because I did go get another slice later on that day and it was reading a little dry. So, you know, he's, he ain't, he's not, he's not going to fake it. You know, I want to ask about when you started Delicious Miss Brown, did you ever imagine you'd be representing like an entire region on national TV? Absolutely not. I just thought I was coming in there and, you know, just, and you know, growing up in the low country and being of Gullah descent,

you really don't think about it. It's just a way of living. It's just like, we're Gichi, that's it, you know, that's all we know. And then, but seeing the interests from other people and, like, genuine interests of the Gullah. Gichi culture. Then I started to realize the importance of what I was doing. It's not only just cooking southern food and frying fish and making red rice, it was really

about preserving a culture. How is your Gullah Gichi heritage shape, not just your recipes, but just the way you see community and success? Oh, man. You know, just coming from being of Gully Gichi descent, it's like, you know, it's not many of us. It's a particular region and area and area. And there's not many of us.

that make it out of Charleston, out of South Carolina. And so being one of the very few, it means a lot to me. But it also means that I have work to do because we're not going to be just us. We have to pave the way for other Gullah Ghi folks, black folks, to be able to do this too. I don't want to keep saying that it's only one or two women, black women in general, that are on the Food Network. Why is that? All these years later, why is that? there should be more of us.

I mean, the fabric of American cuisine comes from African-American people on the backs of enslaved people. So why isn't there more representation across the board with our food? Yeah, on Pam, need a show. Wow. They're stabbing you up today.

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I'll take you in a journey to Desi's life. The moments it has overlapped with mine, how he redefined American television, and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like hours on screen. This is the story of how one man's spotlight lit the path for so many others and how we carry his legacy today.

Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valdera That's part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it?

I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo, somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget.

We bumped our head. We made a mistake. The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. But this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk. And they were just like, so what do you got?

What ideas? And I was like, oh, no. What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. I think it wasn't long until the first season where it kind of hit me like, oh, this is happening. But later on down the line, I'm in my 10th season now of the show. And recently, winning the Emmys, winning two Emmys, I think before then it's not really the validation of it, but it's like having your peers recognize you in a sense because there's been some. so many times where I've sat at tables

and people are like, well, how many restaurants do you own? You know, so what culinary school did you go to? And I never really have an answer. Like, no, I didn't go to culinary school. No, I did, I don't own, at the time I didn't own in restaurants. I had a traveling supper club. And so it was always trying

to fight for that. I belong here. I don't know why y'all don't understand that. God would not put me in this seat if it wasn't a thing for me. And so winning the Emmy was like, oh, I guess you do kind of. got something going on here but but before that I think I realized it kind of it wasn't too long until I was like all right this is this is it I want to ask you right in the intro you got these

mantras you already talked about you got McDonald's money I just want to say some of these mantras okay and you tell me what they mean to you right you said these are matches your mother and grandmother instilled in you and I also want to know which one is most relevant to where you are in life right now if you want to act grown be grown now that was uh you know you think you've grown well then go ahead and take your stuff and get out and do it on your own. Damn. Yeah, my mom is... You remember the first time you heard that? Yeah. I was about 14 or 15 and I guess I had got, you know, started feeling myself a little bit and I said something back to her and she was like, all right. If you want to act grown, you can be grown. Pack your

stuff up, call your grandmother and tell her you on the porch. You need to go. I was like, what you mean? Like she actually had me pack my stuff up and put me outside and called my grandmother said you can come get her she can figure out what she doing since she want to be so grown here and i was like you can't do that you can't put me but that i mean back then like i mean i kind of felt i guess i was feeling myself a little bit i the grandma come get you no no grandma she was like patty let her back in the house don't don't do it like that she you know she didn't mean she didn't mean any harm um but you know it took about an hour too but she let me back in but at that point i realized i was not grown the lord will make a way out of no way absolutely

every single time and i and i say that with conviction every single time. I am a living testimony of making, God will bring you through the darkest storms. I was homeless at one point. So to be here today talking about my second cookbook and being here with you all as a testament that God will bring you out the darkest situation. Was that the moment? Because we all, you know, we all are believers and we all have faith, but we always have that one real moment where we like, Lord, God,

I know that was God. I don't know. I feel like it happens on a daily, you know like just driving to work or flying on a plane or just doing it like when you land like that that was nothing but God or you know getting home to your your house and your family that that had to been God because anything could have happened in between times so I you know you see that on a daily he would never give you more than you can bear never and I think as as humans we underestimate how much we can actually take and deal with and God shows us like, okay, yeah, this may be a very trying time but I'm giving this to you because I know you can handle it. And once you handle it and if it happens again, you know that I've been

here before, I've handled this so this coming, the next thing coming it, you know, it's easy, it's nothing. And I think this is one people need to really understand in this era. Don't be penny wise and pound foolish. Yeah. My grandma would be saying that to me. Yeah. What's that mean?

Don't be penny wise and pound foolish means that you don't think you know more than what you actually do, you know. Be open and receptive to feedback and criticism and constructive criticism. And you don't know everything. You don't. And there's somebody that's going to know a little bit more than you or somebody's going to help you understand this. But be open and receptive to criticism, constructive feedback and just advice. What's next for the delicious Ms. Brown brand?

You know, we got cookbooks. We got restaurants, we got products. Yes. You know, right now, I am looking forward to I'm hosting Kids Baking Championship with Duff Goldman at the top of the year. Holiday baking championship is on now. You know, I'm at this time, I'm the type of person that's always like I got to have everything in control. I got to have my next plan written down. I know I'm doing this.

I know I'm going to do that next. I am allowing the universe to do what it is. Oh, okay. whatever God has for me, I'm not going to limit myself to anything. What piece of mind has that given you in work? That has given me so much because social media and I am very, I do it to this day. I'm guilty of comparing to other people's where they are in their life. Their point C to my point A.

We was talking about that this morning and I was like, yo, people got to stop doing that. They could be lying. They did be on social media lying. They asked off. every all day long especially the people that you know that you know I know you don't live like that but I you know get caught up with that and social media makes it really easy to get caught up with comparing your journey to someone else's and um I've I've caught myself saying that okay I I you know if this book doesn't get New York Times bestseller but why did their books

you know why is their book why is this book not selling his father and I'm tired you get tired of that because at the end of the day what my piece is my slow mornings being with my husband having the freedom to get up and do what I love to do every day that's the older you get the more of those things matter to you so it's a peace of mind of knowing just like hey whatever happens happens but I know it's going to always be for my greater good well thank you dedicate the recipe I got one more quick you dedicated the book to your husband I did why did you dedicate to your husband he's a reason why I cook he's I enjoy cooking for myself, you know, but it's nothing like,

babe, what you're feeling like today, you know, or like, you know, seeing his face when he's excited about something that I'm making and when he walks in the house and I'm cooking and he's like, ooh, it's smell good in here. That makes me feel good. So I get gratification and satisfaction from, it's my love language, feeding, you know, not only his body, but his soul too. And I also want to say, you know, do we always say,

we're losing recipes. Do you think cookbooks? are spiritual because of that. Absolutely. Especially coming from black and brown households

where recipes are not written down. It's only like word of mouth. And so God forbid if Big Mama goes and y'all didn't get that sweet potato pie recipe or that fat back recipe and nobody wrote it down and nobody can call her, you know? So having recipes written down

and the stories that follow the recipes are so important because eventually all of us are going to leave this place one day and you got something, you got to have something left to talk about. That's right. Well, thank you for joining us this morning. Thank you so much. And listen, I'm over the holidays. What's the date? We're going to be with Chris Kalin. Yes. Is that November 27th? The day after, um, Thanksgiving. So yeah, November 28th. Actually, November 28th will be at the Magnolia Room. Um, myself, Cartier and AJ from the We Talk Back podcast will be with Chris

Kailing at the Magnolia Room in Charleston, 720 Magnolia Road, man. So tickets are available for that now. That's right. I believe. I don't know. I'm just reading what's on Chris Kellyn's page. All right. It is.

Cardier Brown. Cardier Brown. Make sure you're going to Cardiardier Brown Southern Kitchen in Charleston Airport, man. That's right. I'm telling you, somebody's listening to me right now. And they're like, you know what? On flight's delayed for two hours.

Might be getting some things. Go ahead and hook yourself up. Walk right past the Chick-fil-A and go on the summer kitchen. That's right. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's D.E.J.

J.N. Jolarious. is Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight fat. Tell her, man. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest. On the breakfast club. Talk to me.

So Kirk Franklin sat down with Carlos King for reality with the King. and they had a conversation about a lot of different things, Kirk Franklin and where he stands with his son currently, Kirk Franklin and just who he is as a person. And I think Carlos King was honestly kind of shocked by how real Kirk Franklin was. But they got into a very deep conversation about sexuality.

There's been a conversation around Kirk Franklin and his son. You guys remember the phone call that happened and, you know, between the two of them. And it's obvious that they've been trying to mend things behind the scenes, right? But there's been another conversation about if Kirk Franklin feels away or has whatever animosity toward his son because his son has come

out as bisexual and Carlos King asks Kirk Franklin about that and Carlos King and Kirk Franklin then talk about Kirk Franklin's sexuality being questioned and that not being a factor. Let's take a listen to Kirk Franklin. Where do you think things went wrong between you and your oldest son?

As you follow his life, you can see that there's more of internal struggles that are not environmental. They are not just from experiences. I'm only sharing what has been very public that people can see a lot of times in the deterioration of certain moods and behaviors on his social media and a lot of its platforms. At age 9 and 10, we were trying to figure out how much of it was disciplinary, always having to be called up to the school and not knowing at times that

they were deeper issues. We are very trepidious in our community when it comes to mental conversations. And, you know, you just don't have the language. You don't have the language. You don't know much. And so that's my perspective. That's the perspective of his mother.

That's perspective of other professionals and other great men that have been in this life. It sounds like he's talking about mental health issues right there, not sexuality. Yes, we went to the wrong clip. But it's okay because. I was confused. I was so confused.

It's okay. Always. talk like he's preaching. He just that evangelist voice is just always I love it. And Lauren, it's okay to stop the clip and say it's the wrong clip. I didn't want to because we were on live radio. I was so confused. Sorry, I thought maybe I could just like No. Yes. Okay. So yes, that was the clip where he was

he was being, well yeah, Kirk Franklin is always going to mind you of the church because we've been hearing his voice for so long. And in that clip, yes, he is talking about what the deeper issue is. So basically Carlos King's poses that question to Kirk Franklin. Like is the issue that your son is bisexual? Kirk Franklin says no not at all and I'm still fighting for my son and then he says this is exactly what is happening or what we believe and he talks about his son's mental health

and they're still figuring not out but then they go into the conversation about Kirk Franklin's sexuality because Kirk Franklin is trying to make the point that he accepts all people and he's been in conversation with people about his sexuality so he understands where certain things are coming from but he doesn't hate anybody

now let's take a listen to Kirk Franklin on sexuality go ahead somebody in the chat said it's always the wrong clip y'all I'd be stopping the show forever if you're having it all time. Thank you for noticing, chat. Okay, because they make Uncle Charlotte feel like he's crazy in here. You are crazy in here. Go ahead, Ray.

Carlos, most of my life, I was, I've had my sexuality question. You know, I'm little. I think I like poems a little bit. And then I came up in gospel music, you know, where a lot of my brothers were feminine men, but they were great friends to me. They were beautiful souls to me. Did it hurt you, though, when people question your sexuality?

Oh, yeah. It did. Oh, yeah, when I was a young boy, yes. How early on do you remember your sexuality being questioned? Middle school and high school. It's because when I was in choir, because I've always been in the arts. And then I was adopted by a woman.

I probably, you know, was very comfortable in my feminineity as a man. My sexuality for me was never a space where it was anything but heterosexual. But I've always been loving and compassionate to people. I can't wait until y'all stop caring where people want to put their penis. Like, who gives a damn? I'm going to start thinking, If you care so much

Huh? What are you talking about? I'm going to start thinking If you care so much about where a man is putting his penis It's because you want to try me It's like how when you're asking a girl You got a man, you got a man You got a man, you're single

No, they're wanting to know So they can put their bed in That's what I'm trying I just said that That's exactly what I'm saying I got what you're trying to say I think with Kirk Franklin The reason why

Because he's talked about this multiple times before And refuted claims multiple times before But with him people like to have this conversation, not just because of whatever is happening with his son, but because he's a man of faith and, you know, he leads and all the things. Because they also get on him about his outfits. Remember, he was dancing on stage. He tried

to make that a thing as well, too. So, I don't think people will ever let Kirk Franklin just be who he is. And why, just because you little, you got to be gay. That's little pimps. Most pimps are little. You know, I thought about you when he said that. And shut up. Right. Come to think about it, I don't really know

a lot of little gays. What? What are you talking about? What? I don't really know no little gay's Because your algorithm is full of transgender and a lot of them be big, so you upset. That's what you're thinking about. But no, no.

Gaines coming to all sizes, Jess. Yeah, no, no, I'm just saying, like, when you tell, personally, I don't know the little ones. Like, I never seen it. The little ones? What you mean? What you mean? Like, size.

Go ahead, Jess. What you said? Franklin ain't little? Yes, he is. He's so short to me. He's not little to you because you're little. And that's why I thought of you when he said, I've always been little.

I was like, dang, Sharla, you've been fighting your whole life. First of all, gay rumors didn't start for me until recently. Okay. I've never had those before. Did you have? What? Recently. You've always had gay rumors.

As of when, recently, like when? Actually, probably since I got to New York. The guy said you took a bus to go see him. And when was that? That was recently, that was, what, 15 years ago? But I was in New York. That's the when I got to New York back in the day. How does that make you feel?

Yeah, unless we know that there's a lot of gay men in New York, so they think I'm just one of them, especially in the industry. Maybe you know. happened when you pulled up on them? What y'all did? In the bus? I don't know this person. I didn't know this person back then. Oh, it was a lot. He had a whole story. He did have a whole story. It was funny too.

People got whole stories about you, too. Are they true? Nope. Honestly, maybe that's the thing. It's that Illuminati and you gay. Then that's what you made it, right? I am in the Illuminati. I've admitted to that. I've told y'all this already. I think both, but all right, guys. That was your opportunity to come out.

What? I am. I just did. That's what I'm in the Illuminaity. Do they take gays? they... I'm not in that faction. What makes you eligible? You have to be... I'll let y'all know soon.

Okay. Yeah. I'm gonna let y'all know real soon. Well, shout out to all of this. Real soon, my Illuminati membership will be confirmed. Just want you to know. Oh, okay, okay.

The other thing won't? No, that'll never get confirmed, unfortunately, for some who may not hear who want this. What? I know I'm trade. I know I'm trade. What is wrong with you?

Why do you look at me in his eye down his throat like that? I know I'm true. Enby no. I don't know. I don't know. Back up here. One of the first things I was warned about

with DJ NB. I walked into an apartment complex. What? What? Tell a story. Tell a story. Tell a story. I walked into an apartment complex and the lady at the front desk that I just want to tell you something. You need to watch out for NV because NVB over here

with a man that's about your size and you got a ball head like you and you're about the same complexion. That's what you tell. See, and that's how it starts and that's why you got to get on these interviews like her from Glenn Carlos King, clear things up. What did I do? As soon as she told me, I told me I told Enview, I'm just letting you know somebody

wanted you about you yesterday. Man, well, listen, shout out to all the little gays. And it's, uh, Tevin Campbell birthday. Happy birthday of Tevin Campbell. Can we talk? Wow. For a minute. All right.

Girl, I want to know your name. All right. What? You'll be at Brunt. That was the latest with Lauren. That was the latest with Lauren. Now, us, this guy's crazy. You're not going to explain the story?

I am not explaining no damn story. false. I'm not explaining for anything false anymore. I ain't got to explain you. Believe what you want to believe. I can put you down with Carlos. I'm glad you got that T-NVy. That's good. I'm not explaining nothing. Believe what you want to believe. If I'm gay, Shalerman, Gay. Who you give me your don't? Make sure you listen to the reality with the King

from Carlos King on the Black Effect podcast. Yes, for the full combo. Yes. Now, who are you giving your donkey to your donkey two? It almost slipped. It almost slipped. Who you giving that donkey two is crazy, you know? I've got to chill out with that.

We need James Bowman to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him, please. James Bowman, the third. From Maryland. All right. Just my knowing. Oh, my God. We'll get to that next is the Breakfast Club tomorrow. With a donkey. It's time the donkey of the day.

A bunch of don'tkeys around here. With the he-hop. Yes, you are a donkey. What the hell? What the hell is he? What a hell are you? Some donkey the day's just sold himself. He are a gong.

John of the man, give it to him. Breakfast Club all day. Give it to him. Oh, man, Solomon, who you giving Donka to do tonight? Well, Rob, 4-9, Donkey of the day for Wednesday, November 12, goes to a Maryland man named James Bowman III, okay? He is 40 years old, and he was recently arrested for a domestic-related assault. Okay, according to the reports, Bowman punched the woman in the face,

and he bit her hand. So, rightfully so, that got his ass locked up. But he was released on a PR bond. We know what a PR bond is, right? It's when a defendant is allowed to leave jail before their trial without posting money. got to sign a document and pledge your word to appear in court for all required hearings. Well, that's what he did, so he got released. What's also interesting about PR bonds is a judge assesses the defendant's risk factors.

Things like their criminal record, employment status, community ties, et cetera, et cetera, family, if they got kids, all that. Yes, yes, just to determine if they are reliable, if they are a reliable candidate for release. Well, it's safe to say the judge got this one wrong. Okay, let's go to Fox 5D.C. for the report, please. Bowman and her toddler were assaulted inside their home in this Waldorf neighborhood last week, allegedly by the same man arrested for the same crime hours earlier. This is James Bowman III, 40 years old, arrested last Friday for a domestic-related assault,

where he's accused of punching the victim in the face. That happened just hours after he was released from the Charles County Adult Detention Center. A state-appointed district court commissioner released Bowman on his own recognizance, telling him not to abuse the woman. But within an hour, Charles County Sheriff's investigators say Bowman was back on Drake Court inside the victim's home, where he broke into her locked bedroom and assaulted the terrified woman and her toddler, leaving them beaten and bloody. She was able to call 911 and have Bowman arrested again. this time a judge ordered the suspect be held without bond you know ladies sometimes

just sometimes I understand why you would trust the bear more okay I did Melissa Ford's hot and bothered podcast recently dropping the clues bombs you can check that out wherever you listen to podcast and on YouTube and we had a discussion about that whole women trusting a bear over a man's scenario that y'all was debating about on social media a couple of years ago and I know it sounds ridiculous in theory but I get it okay because with a bear

at least you know what you're going to get for the most part all right a bear is a wild animal all right its behavior for the most part is pretty predictable if that bear is not getting you know it's snap benefits if that bear is a federal worker who hasn't been paid in 40 days and can't put food on the table for his kids you're in trouble okay the moral of the story is

bears attack when they are threatened or hungry all right humans way too unpredictable okay it's a whole host of complex reasons a human might attack and I don't got time to be playing guessing games with you niggas so the bear it is okay i get it uh james bowman is one of those examples that women will point to in order to say they trust the bear more and who am i to argue okay this man punched a woman

in the face bitter hand and then when he got released six hours later just six hours later spun the block and went back to this woman's house and beat her up again and this time she was holding a toddler hey i i want to say something to these correctional centers these correctional facilities it's okay to keep people okay bail is a privilege not a right all right i hope that whatever judge he goes in front of now looks at the fact that he was granted bail and went and committed the same heinous crime within hours and she was holding a toddler in her hand and he did not care keep him keep him okay these correctional facilities have to start doing some real correcting see this brother is hurting and as long as he's hurting he's going to continue to

hurt others and you can't heal in the same place you keep hurting people so he needs to be away from this young woman okay if the first thing you do when you walk out of jail for beating the woman is go right back to the person you just traumatized and traumatize them again oh you don't need bail okay you need boundaries you need a therapist a bible and probably an exorcism definitely an exorcism trust and believe if you can't break the cycle the cycle will break you and this brother is beyond broken Please let Remi Ma give James Bowman the third, the biggest he-ho. He-ha, he-ha!

You stupid, motherfucker, are you dumb? I don't know his ass. Yeah, Maryland is a big state. Yeah, he right where he belongs. That's ridiculous. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. And what's crazy is how fast they let people back out of jail for doing things like this.

Well, that's what a lot of people are saying. With these new bail reforms, a lot of people get out for doing the same crime over and over and over again. So a lot of times it discourages police to lock him back up because they're like, they're just going to get back on the street. He's weird because he could have killed her this time. The second time, right. And it's such a heinous crime. Like, you know, I think when you get out that

fast, you should be like something traffic related or with your license, you know what I mean? But when it's something violent, it's just like, yo, within six hours, you're just out? Like, what? That's a little crazy. It makes no sense. Happens a lot. No. But that was donkey of the day. Now, we was talking about reality with the King a little while ago with Carlos King

in the whole Kirk Franklin conversation. Right. And I think we're talking about Kirk Franklin's sexuality. And I'm just sitting here thinking and I'm looking at the chat and we was having a conversation about why do y'all care so much when a man is gay or if a man is gay? Like why? What does it matter? Well, who that man is sleeping with don't make you skeet, skeet, so what does it matter? Okay, let's open up the phone lines. 800-581-151.

Over there, ready to say the wrong thing. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm saying you don't know people. Better she's with times what another man. But that's the thing. And that's what I think is. Like, who cares?

That's what I think is. That ain't got nothing to do with me. It's the same when you see a woman and you'd be like, damn, I wonder if she's single. Like, why do you think, like, you want to know if she's single because you want to at her? So why you want to know if I'm gay so bad? But we know, you are.

But that's the question. 800-58-105-105-1. What just happened? Why do people care if a man is gay? Let's open up the phone lines. Huh? He accused you of being gay. Again?

Again. Yes. It should be it. But it can't be anybody. It just got to be a man. Yeah, because don't nobody care when women gay? Nah, they don't really care. They don't like it.

No, it's not. No, nobody cares. Yeah, yeah, it does be cool, too. So nobody cares. All right, but 800-585-105. This is the chat. Somebody said, so we can act accordingly around that person. What does that mean?

What the hell does that mean? So you can act accordingly around the person. What does that mean, chat? Yeah, what is it? Yeah, what is it according? All right, well, let's discuss. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on.

The Breakfast Club. Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Salomey and the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. If you're just joining us,

Charlemagne came up with the question. Why do people care if he's gay or not? Yes, because Lauren LaRosa during the latest. She played the latest episode of Reality with the King from my guy, Carlos King. You can check that out on the Black Peck Podcast Network. And he was interviewing Kirk Franklin. And Kirk Franklin was on there having conversations.

And I guess people think his son is gay. Well, he said he said they questioned his sexuality. but Kirk Franklin is not gay. And people question Kirk sexuality. My thing is this, Kirk is not gay. Who cares? Why do we care if another man is gay?

It's 2025. Why are people still having this conversation? And it just got me to thinking, I think that these men be wanting to try the other man. That's why they want to know. It's the same thing when you see a woman and she look good and you're like, damn, I wonder if she's single.

You know what I mean? So you get your mind ready to holl at her. So the guy be like, oh, shoot, I wonder if he's gay. So you want to make sure, you know, before you shoot your shot, that's what I'm taking from this. Well, in the chat, they said because, you know, they said they want to make sure, the chat is so stupid.

They said, they want to make sure they're not sharing a blunt with you. No, listen, yo, that is a real thing. I'm glad somebody said it, not me. Look, yo, so I have you shared a blunt with a gay person you doing that before. Shut up, Envy, you know that's not how it worked because you ain't get it yet. So look, yo, I was, I was, I was

cool. I was real, real close with with this gay dude, yo, and he smoked a lot, but he always had some good weed, but every time he rolled, I ain't want to hit it. You know what I'm saying? Because I know that he be, you know, on the so I'm like, oh, man. So other girls be on the

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She said, Johnny, the kids didn't come home last night. Along the Central Texas Plains, teens are dying. Suicides that don't make sense. Strange accidents. and brutal murders. In what seems to be, a plot ripped straight out of breaking bad. Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people.

There are people out there that absolutely know what happened. Listen to paper ghosts, the Texas teen murders, on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all times?

You get Desi Arness, a trailblazer, a businessman, a husband, and maybe most importantly, the first Latino to break primetime wide open. I'm Wilmer Valderrama, and yes, I grew up watching him, probably just like you and millions of others. But for me, I saw myself in his story. From plening canary cages to this night here in New York, it's a long ways. On the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama, I'll take you in a journey to Desi's life.

The moments it has overlap with mine, how he redefined American television and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like hours on screen. This is the story of how one man's spotlight lit the path for so many others and how we carry his legacy today.

Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Robert Smith. This is Jacob Goldstein, and we used to host a show called Planet Money.

And now we're back. making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history and some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, How Southwest Airlines Use Cheap Seats and Free Whiskey to Fight Its Way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're going to have mavericks on the show. We're going to have plenty of robber barons. So many

robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked. Like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kev on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends,

people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo, somebody had tomatoes.

I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head. We made a mistake. The deal fell through.

We're embarrassed. We failed. But this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk. And they were just like, so what do you got? What? What ideas? And I was like, oh, no.

What? Check out not my best moment with me, Kevin, stage, on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcast, YouTube, or wherever. you get your podcast. She gay, you know, so she's on the cup. So think about that. Think about how messy your vagina is. And all of the stuff that come on your vagina.

Wow. Wow. I'm just saying, women have natural discharge. You ain't got no problem smoking a blown with a woman. Yeah, I understand. And straight men. And Bookie. Yeah, but what about girls?

What about dudes that? What about guys that? Fresh off the butt and you shared a black. First of all, I'm not even in a, you act. I'm with a lot of smokers all the time. Like, I don't be smoking. With a lot of people, yo, like, why are you trying to convict me? Like, I'd be around a bunch of thirt monsters.

Like, no, I don't. I know people, my sister, I smoke with her. I spoke with my husband. I don't smoke with me. I don't do that. You smoke with bottom feeders before. In my life, yes. And a bottom feeder is somebody that eat.

Damn. And men, straight men, poom-pum, and they get boonkey. You ain't got no problem. She ain't a blunt with them. But you just never know. Talk about this weed thing. No, they ain't the weed, man. Wow.

Wow. That's that boogie. You just. I never know how many, you know, how many things to be gobbling. You just never know. Now, let's go to the phone line. Hello, who's this? Hello, yeah, this is Patrick.

Sadrick, so why do you want to know if a guy is gay, bro? I mean, it's not like I want to know, but if I do know, it's like, you know, you kind of act different. It's the same, but you're not going to talk like how you talk to a regular straight dude or, you know, do the same thing. Why not? What are you going to change up? But look, though, are you gay or are you straight, Sajic? Man, I'm straight, bro. Okay, I don't understand why you think

Why do we think that gay men are a different species of human Like, like, no No, it's not, it's not for it. I got nothing to guess, but it's not, but it just, it'd be kind of, it's kind of weird when you, you know, you can't just talk about it anything else. So when you would act differently? Like, what, how would you act differently? How would I like differently?

I mean, like, you know, we talk, talking about girls or whatever. You know, they're not anti-all that. But he's really just saying Right He is fine She is fine He's talking about The conversation

So if he's talking about You know what I'm saying Like yo I'm gonna go and jump up In something I was in I was in and sure He was done

And he like Nah I can't relate Cause Yeah but gay men Good wing men That gay man You want me to go To say something

To her for you That's how they talk Oh that's the voice I was doing the voice Yeah That was my regular Your neck Your shoulder was one up

Go to the Mexico But hey no I don't want to say My love y'all I've been trying to get To y'all Thank you, Cedric.

We appreciate you, man. Okay. Young throw monster in the making. Hey, yo, you're tricking. Hello, who is? Yo, this is C. Keith, what's up, you gay or you straight? Man, shut up.

What the hell of the hell of the road? That is not the conversation. We're trying to get... No, we're not. We're just asking a question. Sir, we don't care if he's gay. I don't care about that question. I'm gay.

Now, why do people care if a man is gay? All right, so, For my experience, I feel like a lot of people have the concession of us being soft. Soft, not in a way of us liking guys, but soft on the way of we take everything offensively and pretty much the stigma that you see on TV. So I know for me, a lot of times when people find out I'm gay, they're like, you're the coolest gay person I ever met. And that's, and not all of us fall in that possession of we get easily offended, we feel

some type of way. Like when Jeff said the thing about not a female can't have baby I wasn't offended by that and I felt like that was a truth and that should have been nothing that should have been taking offense to begin with. Thank you.

I appreciate you so much. But Keith, you know what? I really don't understand because what's the problem? Like, what's the difference? Like, I see in the chat, I see in the chat, I see people be like, I don't want my gay homie jumping on the table

doing a split. I don't want my straight homie jumping on the table doing split evil. Now, I'm going to tell you something. No, I disagree. If you can do a split in the air, like, what's a little homie name that was on Cousin not scream? Jack, what's homie name? That was impressive.

If you can do that, do it. I don't care what he is. If you can get him like that. Rott's not gay. Tileil, yes. If you can do that, that's impressive. I don't care if he's gay or not. My point is you said that you wouldn't want your straight homie doing that.

I disagree. If you can strut my gay wouldn't do that. I'm going to want me in a club that jump on the table doing the split. Bro, if you're that acrobatic and you that flexible, do it. And you should be back up dancing for Chris Brown. Fly little What's his name Ty Little

Kyle Little got some Superpowers that he's not using to his great capabilities That is impressive He had a split in the air I'll be telling all my homies Yo watch homie Yo Ty Lills do that thing

Yo jumping in the end That was impressive I don't care what y'all say Y'all kiss my ass We got Omar on the line Omar What's up? So unsurious

Omar Ohma Hey Omar what's up baby What's going on Jeff Hey Yo what's up Starlaw

P's Omar Jess think all Omar Just think all Omar is a gay because of the wire. No, I don't think all Omar is gay. This crowd, man. Get out of here, man. First of all, first of all, and reaching out to everybody in Jamaica,

and saying to love him for the storm that's going on. Yes, sir. To my mom while the storm was blowing over, and I was here all night with all in the phone. Yes, sir. To the top of him. You don't know what he said. Yes, I did.

He said that he's shouting out of everybody that got hurt in this storm in Jamaica, and he was on the phone with his mom while she was going through the storm the whole time. Sing! I like that. All right, brother. Bless you, bless us. Okay. I had a friend, man.

Well, not a friend. This guy. Oh, now you're not a friend. He's a friend. He's a friend, Omar. Yeah, well, I say a friend. You know what I'm saying? But he used to hang out with all the friends, the girls, man.

He used to f*** up and cry all the time. He was real girls. You know, we used to pick on him. You mess with him. He was a bit of a f***ling. Because every time he was around with the girls, you know what I mean? So we used to pick on him. A few years later.

I went back to Jamaica this man has six kids man. I couldn't believe it. Well, that's what you get for judging that's what you get for stereotyping that man. You thought he was gay. Yeah, I didn't sterilize, man. If you suck your fingers and cry all the time, man,

there's something wrong with you. Yeah, but that's not anything to do with being gay just because you suck your thumb don't mean you're sucking. They didn't say what finger he's something. Yeah? Yeah. Don't put nothing in your mouth, man.

So you don't smoke weed? You don't wear that way. Don't you smoke a big spliff, a big fat spliff? Jesus. Yeah. Hey, Dahlah, come on, man. No, but you just said, don't put nothing in your mouth. I need y'all to be consistent and make sense.

All right, come on, what you been? You being, like, purposely descriptive like that, like, extra, like, big, fat, long spliff. Like, come on, yo. What you're talking about? This show is gay. Hello, who's this? One time, this is Jasmine from the Bronx.

Hey, Jasmine. Hey, Jasmine. Why do you care if men say if they're gay or not? I actually don't care. I think it's weird when people care about other people's sexual preference. I agree with Charlemagne. It's the same thing with parents. caring about their children's sexual

preference. It's just weird. If it ain't true, why you care? Why do you care? I'm with you. Thank you for calling. But Jasmine? Yeah. Dick Shalerman Gay? Don't even answer that because you're on here. Jasmine, Jasmine, remember what I said earlier? These men that

want to know if other men are gay Envy want me to say yes so he can't try me. Remember? I think NB got low-key, envy got a crush on you. I know. He just made it already. He got it It came up in the 90s in New York, and as we found out over the years, the 90s in New York might have been gayed in Atlanta in the 2000s.

Oh, no, nothing gets gay than that. No, I'm saying, no, no, no, it's just more openly gay in Atlanta. New York is a little different. New York is oil up your ankles. Oil up your ankles, let your tip-tip. Nah, see, that's so brutal. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying?

Well, before we get to tomorrow, I do not have a crush on, Shal of me. But go ahead, what's your, what's your, well, What you mean? What? You don't have a crush on me. I don't. But that told me and you're not gay. You got a crush on somebody.

Yeah. I am not. I am not gay. You have a crush on me. But again, what's the moral of the story? The moral of the story is who cares where another man is putting his penis? It's 2025. It's about to be 2006.

Y'all really got to stop giving a damn about that. And I'm telling you right now, for all of you men that keep wanting to know if a man is gay, I'm just going to assume you want that man. You want to know if that man is gay for your own personal benefit. That's all I'm going to know if that man. I'm going soon from now on. All right. Well, look, look, look. Okay, so what if a girl

want to get to know a guy, right? But he did the thing with the dudes back in the day, but he don't do that no more. Should she not know that? No, it's the same. No, it's the same thing as when a girl try to holler at you

and you married. You'd be like, no, I'm married. So if the girl try to hollet the gig guy, the gay guy, just be like, nah, I'm gay. I'm bisexual, yeah. No, no, no, no, but that's the thing. What if he not now?

Like, what if he, like, but that was in his, past. Like, he was, he was going to think the dudes back in early 2000. And you want to know if... Yeah, I'm talking about he did the bend. Oh, he's delivered? He got bent. He, yeah. Yeah, like, yeah, he was delivered back on the other side of the fence. Well, that's different. And I don't got to tell you about my past. Okay, I was going to say, shit, he let her know or... Until they go to the club and homie, come up to y'all. And be like, hmm. And then,

yeah, like, I hate your fuck up before. Like, what if a come up to you? I hate this place. I hate this late. Like, yeah, how my f*** tastes when you, when you, when you kiss him, you're like, Oh, whoa, you know what I mean? Hey, yo, shoddy, tell me how my a-taste. You know? So, we got a situation, you know. My goodness, all right.

All right. All right, we got the ladies for Lauren coming up. Don't move with the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Ah, ma'am. Salute to everybody on the Breakfast Club chat. You can always tune in. We start at about 8 a.m.

And it's the Breakfast Club AM on Twitch. I don't like the chat today. Chat's funny as hell, man. Chat said Lauren built like Taylor Swift. Oh, wow. That's what the chat. They say who? They're like, shake it off.

That's crazy. Oh, no, no, no. She got a little bit of that. I'm like, thank you. Wow. I said, don't disrespect Taylor like that. Right? She's talking about me, dummy.

No, I'm sorry. Let's go, Evie. Let's get to the latest. Lauren becoming a straight fit. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this.

They say I'm the best. The latest with Lauren LaRosa Sometimes you have facts Sometimes you have details Sometimes you have a little bit everything Well it's the latest On the breakfast club Talk to me

LL Cool Bay What's up y'all Okay y'all We have some beautiful love news Because Terrence J And model Michaela Sulton Are officially married Dropping a clue box

For Terrence J What's her name? Michaela Michaela I believe I'm saying They're married in what Dubai Right I'm married in Dubai

And it has been days of events I saw they did A yacht situation and you know all of the things they were married at the atlantis over there and anthony anderson actually officiated the wedding let's take a list to anthony anthony anthracian by the power vested in me it is with delight and honor to pronounce you husband and wife but god has joined together let no one separate parents you may now kiss your bride I didn't know Anthony Anderson could do that

You can get the Like, yeah, like a certificate You gotta be ordained and all that He's not a minister or anything like that No, because yeah I don't know how to be ordained to do a marriage You could get married beforehand And this could be the ceremony

And he could have did that before When they were back in Miami Oh gosh They probably did it in New York They probably did it in Miami in the States I ain't gonna say anybody can marry somebody But my gosh is to do that And she, it was easy

I think it's like a couple classes that you take at a church and then you can officiate weddings. Yeah, I think you got to get ordained and I thought you had to get like a registration and like a license and thing. I thought you could get the license beforehand and just go with the ceremony.

Like they probably did it back in the States, right? Gotcha. Because it's in Dubai, so they probably did that already and this is just the show. Just for show. And as they walked out to the actual ceremony, T.I. actually walked them out the groomsmen and they walked out

to bring them out. And then T.I. actually performed at the reception of the wedding as well, too. Let's say it was in the TI. Let me tell you something. They had a good time. Terrence and the whole crew, they were such a good time. I know they had a great time. T.R.J.

Gras to them, yeah, absolutely. T.I. is my top seven favorite rappers of all time, and there's nobody that I want to see in a versus more. Okay, I need T.I. and a versus, because I am sick of y'all acting like T.I. Don't have one of the best catalogs ever. Who does he battle? You keep saying that. Wayne. T.

I like that one, Jess. I do like that. I like the T.I. versus Little Wayne. I really do. But I just want to see T.I. in the verses. I got records You hear me What you know about that

Rubber Band Man Dope boys in the trap Bring them out Live your life I mean he got joint Asap Oh Swagger like us

Definitely Whatever you like Oh Motivation Crazy Continue on I know All right

Okay Now in other 24s big things popping Keep going What's up what's happening Head down Keep going Netflix

So this came out yesterday And we wanted to send some congratulations over to the cast. Netflix has officially ordered a sequel to the sitcom, A Different World. So this new series will be centered on the daughter of the original characters, Dwayne

and Whitney, and I also saw that Ms. Debbie Allen is involved as well too. So that'll be coming to Netflix soon. You said the second season? No, I said they've ordered. Like, it's happening on Netflix. Gotcha. No, I'm glad that Ms. Debbie Allen is involved. That's dope.

Yes. Well, she talked about it when she was here on breakfast. Yes, she did, but the announcement came out, what the name dash called The Trades. The announcement came out in the trades yesterday. Oh, they've been announced it. Well, yes, no, yesterday. I'm not doing this with you.

In other news, moving on. That's why I asked her a bite when she was here. And it was in conversation then. It's officially ordered and released yesterday as of Netflix. That's the Lauren, because that is the latest. Yes. Based about our HBCUs, I love it. 100%.

And other news, speaking of conversations, we've been talking about people who they're dating and who they are in bed with or not. Kevin Gates shared some thoughts that got some people going yesterday on why men want to date younger women. Let's take a listen. Man, don't know no old washed up as bitch, man. What the shit I don't want a young man? You don't like it.

He's my dick, man. Straight off. The fuck. What the shit? Want something that been, you heard, man. My ain't have emotion. We ain't going to the youth call out, man. What the fuck?

But see, that beat, there won't be nothing but that washed up on it. Like, hey, yeah, no old enough to be your daddy. Yeah. Yeah. I sense enough to know how to listen. things be so weird I'm so sorry like it used to be so weird

yeah that's not a used car that's a uh that's you gotta look at that like fine wine you know wine gets better with time you know cognac gets better with time you know some antique cars you know are worth way more than some of these new cars that's his preference that's a 19994 8 series

BMW CSI that I just drove yesterday yes that's a Chevy Chevelle 1970 I'm saying Kevin ain't looking at the same 40 plus 50 plus years older that I'm looking at, because I'm taking Angela Bathold over any of you, 20s. He wanted the Lord Honda Coopsis. No. Yeah, he was, yeah, he had the baby sonatas.

And for all the men that were, like, arguing in defense of what he was saying, what makes men think that just because you're older, you're the better choice either. Oh, talk to talk, Lauren. I'm just saying, because I feel like a good person, whether a man or woman doesn't come with age, that's a personal choice, that's personal development. Like, there's a lot

of things that go into that. Men think just because they get older, y'all are like the golden prize. I hate that conversation. You all ran through half the country. Y'all are old and washed up too. And y'all want somebody to deal with that? What are you talking about? You've been burnt, fried, died, laid to the side.

Now you're pretty fried. What are you talking about? I don't know, J.D. I'm here. Slude to Stephanie Mills. Trappling. He's tripping. Angela Bassett.

There he go. Okay. I'm just saying. Patty LaBelle. I don't know. Felicia Michelle. Okay. Oh, you used up.

Okay, Debbie, okay, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, okay, I don't know what he's looking at. But these 40 plus, 50 plus, 60 plus is killing these youngans out here. That crew you just named 60 plus. And? And fine. And sexy. See, that's the thing.

Sexiness comes with age. Oh, you know, we were just talking about that when I was prepping for this segment. I was like, I think you. It wasn't talking about you. You love sex appeal. Age. You love sex appeal. All right.

All right. That's the latest one. I'll let you know what they're doing. All right. Let me come back. We've got the Bigot Choice Mix, 800-585-105-1. You're so mad.

Oh, man. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club.

We got a salute to Cartier Brown, the chef, author, and Food Network host. She came and talked about her new cookbook. So she's got a new cookbook called Make Do It What You Have 100s of. delicious new recipes from favorite old-school meals. She got other books out, too. She's in New York Times bestseller.

But I'm going to tell you something about Cartier-Brown. Her food is really good. She's got a restaurant in the Charleston International Airport called Cardi-A-Brown's Sovereign Kitchen. And you know how you be flying out somewhere? Uh-huh. You want to get to the airport early? Like, I always want to get to the airport early,

especially when it's in the morning, just to go to, you know, suburb kitchen. Oh, absolutely. And when I was home, I was home last? I mean, I'm always home, but one time I was home this year. I can't remember when she had made. me some seafood salad with the red rice with the turkey sausage

oh my god okay oh my god salute the cardier brown man she'd get busy well i want to salute to everybody i've seen last night at the record room which is a spot in new york on me yeah queen's new york on tuesday they do nothing but rm b so my daughter celebrated

lauren's supposed to be taking me there yo but go eat yeah my daughter celebrated her birthday which is this thursday so you know they only do armbia on tuesday so they all went out and i popped up on last night and I had a great time. They play everything on. It's just a vibe. They play new stuff from Leon Thomas to Bryce and Tiller to new addition.

It's just funny how Jess be saying somebody supposed to take her somewhere, but it'd be hurt that don't want to go. So that's up. You never show up. Lauren didn't say it. Shut up. You hear what Lauren said? I will literally be like, hey Jess, we're doing this for Fashion Week. Hey, Jess, remember you said you wanted to have drinks. I made the reservation. Hey, Jess,

working room is happening on Tuesday. I called the owner. Made reservations for us. Oh, Jess. I didn't call the owner of Brooklyn Chopper. Shout out the Dompu. Then set it up for us. Just don't ever want to go anywhere, y'all. You see what I'm saying? I do be one of the go places.

Lauren goes late and Charlemagne goes to a lot of nasty places. So I don't like to go. I don't even go in a way. No, when you try and go out to eat, yo, you pick the worst places and there's always an end. Let's go to, like, what, Red Roof Inn, the Burger Inn, the State Inn. It's like, why we always eating in a hotel? Why are you doing that to me, yo?

Damn. Well, salutes again, everybody came out. It was a late, it was girls night out, and I popped up on them last night just to say, happy birthday. You said it was on brand. Oh, shut up. And salute to Mercedes, who was my assistant in the gym. She actually walked me out because I didn't have security last night, so she walked me to the car. Whoa.

What? What's that? She was out there. See what I'm saying? She was out of six foot nine. See? With a size 12 in men. Well, she would have pulled out if something happened.

And see, that's why men be wanting to know. Ben's with a flip somebody else. Ben's get busy That's my basketball too She box somebody to F out Hand big as hell Envy screaming hands in the air And Ben's handling business

That's crazy That's what I'm saying That's why people be wanting to know If a man is gay Well it's night time though So it's night All you see is You know envy walking

With this big shadowy figure You're like I gotta be security So I get it I get it Salute to Benz She set everything up for me Thank you Benz

Now where you're gonna be at this weekend I'm gonna be in Toledo Ohio y'all So get your ticket Saturday is almost sold out. We've still got tickets available for Friday, both shows. I'm doing meet and greet at the late shows on both days. Jess O'Laretsofficial.com and the Perrysburg area, guys. So get your tickets if you have not yet. I can't wait to get there.

Ohio. Who lies more? Charlemagne, when he said he's going to go out or just when she says she's going to do a signage after, a meeting greet after? Definitely, Jess, with the meeting. Right. And they did come back Monday like, man, I couldn't even do it because it wasn't set up for that. Let's set up. Y'all N'i'all didn't have masks on.

I was too tired. The shows are too close. They didn't have doors. They didn't have doors. Shut up, y'all. Anyway, get your tickets, y'all. I'm going to take some pictures with you. I got y'all.

All right. You got a positive no, Shala? Yes, I do. And I just want to tell y'all, man, life is too short to waste any amount of time on wondering what other people think about you, okay? If they had better things going on in their lives, they wouldn't be thinking about you in the first place, okay? They wouldn't have time to sit around and talk about you.

What's important to me is not others. opinions of me, but what's important to me is my opinion of myself. That is a fantastic quote that I love from c.Joy Bell C. Have a great day. Breakfast club, bitches! You don't finish or y'all's done? In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you.

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