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Good morning, USA! Bombs at 420. Salute to everybody out there who don't care that it's 420 because it's 420 every day for them.
That is true.
They wake and bake every day.
That is true.
But you got something?
You don't smoke, though.
No, I don't like flour.
I like edibles.
What you got?
You know, this is my pre-rolls.
Give me some flour anyway.
I give it to people.
Those are good gifts.
Those are good for pre-rolls.
Just, you know, light up.
We call them dog walkers because they're short enough that when you walk the dog,
you can smoke and get your little smoke on.
I thought dog walking was when you was beating somebody's ass.
I'll dog walk that hoe.
Nah, nah.
We call them dog walkers because they're short-sized and you can smoke them.
And, you know, by the time you get back to the crib, you're done.
Short-sized, but you can smoke them.
There you go.
You should call them Charlemagne then.
What?
Put Charlemagne in your mouth.
What?
Short-sized.
What?
So shout to the staff.
I gave all the staff some happy 420 gifts. This is good. Thank you, sir. For the staff and everything like that. Thank? Short size. What? So shout out to the staff. I gave all the staff some happy 420
gifts. Thank you, sir. For the staff and everything
like that. Thank you, sir. Turbo Blue Rose.
Slurred. I can't smoke, man. You know why I can't
smoke? Because the way my anxiety is set
up, that anxiety creeps in too fast
when I smoke. I've never had a good experience
smoking. Really? With edibles, yes.
Because edibles is a nice body
high. Yeah. And you know how much you take
in. You know what I'm saying?
And it creeps up on you over the hour.
That's what I like.
That weed hits you too fast when you smoke it.
I can't smoke it.
I like edibles.
But thank you.
It's a good 420 gift.
If you're in Detroit, you can hit up Mary Jane.
Most of the dispensers in Detroit has my actual strain.
So shout out to them.
And if you're in Vegas, Hardeen.
My wife is mad at me right now.
Why?
You know, we've been talking about
colonoscopies and I took a colonoscopy
earlier this year and they found two polyps.
Yep. I got one in December.
I had no polyps, no redness, no cancer,
no nothing. Yeah, it could have, I didn't have
any cancer or redness, but one of the polyps
could be precancerous, so I have to go back
in five years just to make sure.
I think yours is short. I think yours
might be three. Three years. Yeah, I'm going back in three.
I got to go back in five.
You go back in three.
But long story short, when they found that,
I'm making everybody I know go get colonoscopies.
As you should.
I'm like, I can't talk if you don't because I just want to make sure my
friends and family members are around.
Absolutely.
So I made my wife go.
Now, my wife is not the age to go, but I just made her go anyway.
So today is her procedure.
So, you know, last night, yesterday she had to take those pills.
Oh, my goodness.
Poop city.
She wasn't ready for that.
Loose booty.
She wasn't ready for that.
She done cursed me out.
She wasn't ready for it.
It's funny when you try to explain people the prep of colonoscopies
because they don't understand what we're saying.
When we say diarrhea, like they're just thinking about, okay,
I've had diarrhea before.
Nah, this is different.
This is literally every 10 to 15 seconds.
Maybe.
Yes.
Maybe if you're good every 10 to 15 seconds.
Every time you sit down, you're going to get back up.
She is so mad at me right now.
Yes.
Man.
She is so mad at me.
And I guess, you know, she did the suit tab.
But the suit tab is where you have to take the pills.
Some people take liquids.
That's what I did.
They had to take the pills.
I did the pills. I did the pills.
I did the pills.
So the pills didn't agree with her stomach.
So she kind of, she was like almost vomiting.
Yeah.
And then she pooping.
Oh my, she's mad at me right now.
But the beauty is, boy, when you wake up this morning, that stomach going to be on flat,
flat.
Yeah, she going to be on flat, flat.
You going to be on flat, flat this morning when you wake up.
Yeah, so.
Any work you've been doing in the gym on your abs, you going to see it this morning.
You going to see it the day after you do prep for a colonoscopy.
Believe that.
Yeah, so she's a little tight with me this morning.
She's very tight.
Why'd they let her go early?
Because y'all got a history of it in your family?
No.
That's why I was able to go early.
I was able to, because I won't be 45 until this year.
We paid for it.
Oh.
We just paid for it.
Okay.
Because, you know, it's one of those things I'm nervous after seeing Chad with Bozeman
and all these brothers are dying from different things.
I'm checking everything. I'm with you. I'm nervous after seeing Chad with Bozeman and all these brothers are dying from different things. I'm checking everything. And I want people
I love to check everything because I want them
around as long as possible. I'm with you.
Now, today is 420. Yes. Did they put
the song in that I wanted? Oh, good, man.
What song you want? Because today is
our good brother Killer Mike's born day, man.
Drop on the clues box for Killer Mike. You want to start with Killer Mike?
I damn sure want to start with Killer Mike because today
is Killer Mike's actual B day. I want to start with Styles P. I get high, but we can do Killer Mike. I damn sure want to start with Killer Mike because today is Killer Mike's actual B-Day.
I want to start with Styles P.
I get high, but we can do Killer Mike.
We can do Styles P a little later.
Killer Mike put out a new record for his B-Day, man, called Don't Let the Devil with LP.
You know, the whole Run the Jewels movement because Killer Mike has an album coming out called Michael.
But happy born day to Killer Mike.
We don't celebrate our people enough when they are here.
Killer Mike is a treasure to our community.
It's a pleasure to call him a friend and brother,
and he's one of my top five favorite MCs of all time,
and this song is hard.
Before you play it, I want to salute to Killer Mike.
I just want to tell y'all a quick story.
We got like 10 seconds.
There was somebody getting people in Atlanta
where they would act like they were investing people's money
and really wasn't doing it.
And Killer Mike went down to that individual
and got so many people their money back.
Nobody ever talked about it.
And Killer Mike, he's a good brother.
He's a hero.
And he continues to do things like that.
So Killer Mike, I love you.
Michael Rinder is a real-life superhero.
And let's get his joint on right now.
Now, if you're on BET right now, you're going to have to Google it later.
It's called Don't Let the Devil, featuring LP.
Let's go.
Hit one of Clues Bomb for that.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Front page news is next.
All right.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy,
Charlamagne Tha God.
We are the Breakfast Club.
That was Killer Mike.
Happy Born Day, Killer Mike.
Happy Born Day, Killer Mike.
Drop one of the clues bombs
for Killer Mike, man.
That's Killer Mike and LP.
Don't Let the Devil, man.
Let me tell you something.
Michael Rinder, Killer Mike
has a new album coming out
called Michael.
I'm not going to put too much sauce on it because y'all going to say I'm biased
because that's my partner and one of my top five favorite MCs of all time.
But, man.
Crazy.
When he drops, you'll see.
All right.
Man.
I'm sure Killer Mike will stop doing it when he drops that album.
Man.
All right.
Well, let's get in some front page news.
Hey, Teslin Figaro, good morning.
Teslin Figaro, the hood whisperer.
Yes. Good morning, Charlamagne Tha God, DJ Envy, Breakfast Club, and the E.T.
Now, I just want to start off with some quick sports.
Last night, the Bucks beat the Heat 138-22.
The Nuggets beat the Timberwolves 122-113.
And the Grizzlies beat the Lakers 103-93.
Of course, Brooks and LeBron kind of were chirping at each other all game.
And after the game, this is what Brooks said about LeBron.
There are people out there that say maybe you shouldn't do that with one of the better players in the game.
I guess, what were you thinking?
I don't care. He's old.
You know what I mean?
I was waiting for that.
I was expecting him to do that game four, game five.
He wanted to say something when I got my fourth foul.
He shouldn't have said that earlier on.
I poke bears.
I don't respect no one until they come
and give me 40.
Why they got to call a man old?
Now, Brian, I need you to drop 40 next game.
But that's the thing. You got to show up for the us old
is next game. That's the thing. God dang.
Now, Dylan Brooks last night scored
12 points, one rebound. Now, that
old man dropped 28 on you in 12 rebounds.
How you call them all?
You got to drop 40.
I never thought I would get to the point where Bron would be up here with us OGs.
All right?
But I guess he is at this point, right?
He's considered old in the league.
He's been there 20 years.
Bron, you got to drop 40 next game.
And how did the Lakers lose to the Grizzlies without Ja Morant?
And did Giannis play last night?
I fell asleep at 9 o'clock.
Giannis didn't play last night.
Because I'm an old man.
Giannis didn't play last night. And the B an old man. Giannis didn't play last night.
And the Bucks beat the Heat? Wow.
And LeBron, don't let that Canadian talk to you like that.
40. I need 40 next game,
Bron. And I ain't no Laker fan, but I want
to see you drop 40, Bron.
What else you got, Taz?
Yeah, it was a really, really good game.
Just want to say my special happy
birthday also to Killer Mike.
I'm glad you guys did that special shout out.
So I will be going to Atlanta for the sold out Black Effect Podcast Festival.
So don't be surprised if I'm reporting live from the Blue Flame.
Blue Flame.
There you go.
I'll be in there with you.
The Blue Flame with Killer Mike and his wife, my sister, Shay.
So shout out to him.
Yep.
So Biden issues an executive order to make child and home care cheaper.
So wanted to give some good news with President Biden signing an executive order Tuesday to advance affordable caregiving and support workers.
Now, the order includes cabinet level agencies taking steps to fix the nation's child care and long-term care system, such as lowering copayments for services and other provisions that will seek ways for Medicare and Medicaid dollars to go further.
Now take a listen to what President Biden had to say about the executive order.
The executive order I'm about to sign is the most comprehensive set of actions any administration has taken to date
to increase access to high-quality quality childcare and long-term care and
support for the caregivers. You know, under this order, almost every federal
agency will collectively take over 50 actions to provide more peace of mind
for families and dignity for care workers and who deserve jobs with good
pay and good benefits. The executive order doesn't require any new spending.
It's about making sure taxpayers will get the best value for the investments they've
already made.
Okay.
Yep.
So good thing.
This was, you guys may remember when they were pushing the infrastructure bill early
on in the administration, this was pushed to the side.
And so it wasn't able, they couldn't get support early on in the administration this was pushed to the side uh and so it wasn't able they they
couldn't get support early on so now they bumped it back up as they should as democrats prepare
uh to run in 2024 so i'm excited about this and thought folks should know people spend a lot of
money on child care every year about seventeen thousand dollars so this should be pretty helpful
and what that hopefully that trickles down to the people who need it and when i say the people who
needed the black people in the hood.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
All right.
Well, we'll see you in a little bit, Tesla.
Figure I know this is a short one.
We were talking.
Yeah, I have more news.
We'll do it in a couple minutes.
All right?
All right.
Peace.
All right.
Get it off your chest.
800-585-1051.
If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open.
It's 420, so get your ass up. Light up.
And it's 420. It's 420, so get your ass up, light up, and it's 420.
It's The Breakfast Club on BET.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy.
Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Let's get in some front page news.
Now we got Tez and Figaro on the line.
Good morning, Tez.
Tez, the hood whisperer.
Absolutely.
Good morning, family.
Let's go through some quick sports. The Grizzlies beat the Lakers last night, 103-93.
The Bucs beat the Heat, 138-122.
And the Nuggets beat the Timberwolves, 122-113.
I can't believe that the Bucs beat the Heat without Giannis,
and I can't believe the Lakers didn't seize the moment
and beat the Grizzlies without Ja Morant.
Yeah, they lost by 10.
They were down by like 20 or something at one point, 21 at one point.
They came back, but yeah, it was a very physical game.
It was an early game, too.
I was asleep.
I was in bed by 8.45 last night.
Your game started at 7.30, I think it was.
It was early.
Really?
Very early.
It was surprising.
All right, now what are we starting with now?
Are we starting with the guy, the inmate that passed away because of bed bugs?
Yes.
That was wild.
Brace yourself for this one.
Just even reporting this makes me queasy.
The family of 35-year-old Georgia man LaShawn Johnson,
who died in a bedbug-infested jail cell last year,
is now demanding a criminal investigation into his death
as well as closure and replacement of the jail.
Now, the family attorney, Michael Harper, said that Thompson was found unresponsive in his filthy cell on September 19th, 2022.
After being eaten alive by insects, he went on to say that the jail cell Mr.
Thompson was housed in was not fit even for a diseased animal.
When Thompson was arrested three months earlier, he was put into a psychiatric unit
of the jail because officials had determined that he had mental health issues. His attorney said
that officers and medical staff at the jail noticed Thompson was deteriorating, but they did
nothing. And when they found his body unresponsive, they did not administer CPR because in her words,
she freaked out. The correctional officer actually said she freaked
out. According to Fulton County Medical Examiner's report, Thompson's body was covered in bedbugs
with no obvious signs of trauma, and they did determine his death as undetermined. Now, in the
meantime, the sheriff's office said that they have taken immediate action, which includes spending
$500,000 to address the infestation of bedbugs and new protocols for security rounds and adding additional staff to help on overcrowding.
And so today they're also doing a press conference to demand a federal investigation.
I'm so confused. How do you determine somebody's death? Undetermined. Right.
That's number one. And number two two this man had to be screaming for help
right like you're not gonna get eaten alive by anything and not be yelling and screaming you
know at the top of your lungs screaming for your life so they just ignored the brother
yeah it was a slow process um you know it wasn't like all you know at one time but
having the infestation you know slowly, slowly eating away, slowly deteriorating. They said he deteriorated over time, but he just never got the medical help.
And basically just let him, you know, stay there in filth until eventually it took over his body.
And so that's what the federal investigation will do.
We'll actually go back in and, you know, I assume have the medical examiner make a determination.
And once they do that, they can continue with that lawsuit and
see if there's any criminal charges that they can file
as well. That's how I mean, jails aren't
supposed to be the rich carton, but you know
jail shouldn't be a death sentence if you're not sentenced
to death. Not on bed bugs and
now, but you know, most jails, a lot of jails
are, whether it's roaches, whether it's infested
with mice, whether it's bed bugs
which is disgusting. Oh my goodness.
I mean, at least make them livable human condition like i said it ain't supposed to be no five-star hotel but at
least make them livable conditions for a human damn yeah all right what else we got what else
we talking about facebook yes facebook uh in case anyone wants to see if they can get the bag from Facebook, Facebook users who had an active account any point between May 2007 and December 2022 can now apply to receive a piece of the parent company's Meta's $725 settle a longstanding class action lawsuit, which accused Cambridge, who worked with the Trump campaign to access private user information of more than 87 million Facebook users as an attempt to influence the presidential election.
Now, the claim form, which will only require a few personal details and information about your Facebook account, can be filled out online or printed or submitted by
mail. Now, the form only takes a few minutes to complete and must be submitted by August 25th
to be included in the settlement. You can complete the claim at www.facebookuserprivacysettlement.com.
So if you want to see if you have some money coming to you, I thought this was an important story.
Submit that claim and see what happens.
All right. And lastly, you got to talk about this Toronto Blue Jays pitcher and his wife.
You got to talk about this flight. I just thought this was disgusting.
Yeah, yeah. So many of you may have seen it on Twitter.
I wanted to see what the family thinks. So Toronto Blue Jays pitcher Anthony Bass has sparked heated debate on social media after claiming that a United Airlines employee made his pregnant wife clean up a food mess left by his children on the flight.
Now, Bass wrote on Twitter, the flight attendant at United just made my 22 week pregnant wife traveling with a five year old and a two year old get on her hands and knees to pick up popcorn mess by my youngest daughter. But not everyone, DJ Envy, agreed with the outrage,
and they took to social media to say that he is responsible for his own mess.
One user commented, be a decent human,
and if you're going to give your kid popcorn on the plane,
be prepared to pick it up.
Another person said pregnant women can bend.
They may not want to, but the solution to that
is not to give your child popcorn on the plane.
And another user who identified themselves as a former flight attendant may not want to but the solution to that is not to give your child popcorn on the plane and another
user who identified themselves as a former flight attendant said that a flight attendant is there
for safety not to pick up after your children so do you think you should pick up after your own
damn kids or yeah i mean i can see both sides yes i think that you should pick up after your own
damn kids but i do think you have to take into consideration the young lady was pregnant so if
it was difficult and you know if you've, you know, I travel with my family.
So when my wife is pregnant, you know, and we got, you know, two other kids,
at one point three other kids, I see how it is, how difficult it is for her to do certain things.
So I'm there to pick up the popcorn.
So if I was the flight attendant and I saw a pregnant woman with some other kids,
I probably would help.
You know what I mean?
Yes, yes.
She's 22 weeks pregnant.
She has a two-year-old and a five-year-old.
The popcorn, I'm sure, fell out.
Yes, I get it.
And I'll be honest with you.
I've been on some of them planes
and I've been seeing messes on some of them planes,
cookie crumbs and all types of stuff.
And not to say that the flight attendant had to pick it up,
but there is a cleaning crew before and after
that that's their job.
They're supposed to clean up the plane and they could clean up the plane that child was
two years old and five years old and it's not like it's difficult it's not like she was encouraging
the kid to spill popcorn i'm sure the kid dropped it by accident exactly we on a flight and you want
me to bend down on my knees pick it up no i'm not picking it up no no i thought that was my point of
view like when were you supposed to pick it up because you can't get out
your seat you know it's only certain times you can get out with your seat belt so did they want
them to do it before they got off the plane or like where was the time that she was really going
to have for anybody pregnant or not to get on their knees and pick it up i just think about
like if you got to catch another flight you got to get off the plane you know where was the time
i guess that she wanted her to pick it up
i have no idea i was thinking some of these flight attendants be nasty for no damn reason
i've been seeing that and experiencing that i understand that you might be having a bad day
but you know you don't have to project you know that bad day onto the passengers of the airplane
because we all just trying to get to where we're going that's it and i'll be honest if i was on
that flight and seeing that pregnant woman on her hands and knees picking up that popcorn, I would have helped her.
Because I know what it is to have kids and have young kids and trying to handle everything together.
You know, I got six of them.
So I would have helped her on that flight.
Well, I would have counted the kernels first.
If there's only like two kernels left, I was like, oh, she got it.
I'm saying she already down there.
She got it.
You know what I'm saying?
No, you wouldn't.
You would have helped.
I would have counted the kernels.
That's all.
I would have counted the kernels.
I would have looked and be like, oh, there's only two left. She got it. You know what saying you wouldn't you would help i would have counted the kernels that's all i would have counted the kernels i would have looked and be like oh it's only two left she got it no you know me i'm like that sometimes when you're sitting in your seat
and i'm gonna tell you something else you know you'd be sitting down you'd be offering to help
women with their bags i got to the point where i stopped doing that because women don't be
wanting help some women want to know yes we do i look every time somebody don't help me i look and
say i mean are you gonna help okay you're gonna going to help that's how I am some of these women be like
I got it I got it I don't need your help
but most of the time they do
need help and I have no problem helping them
I have no problem helping them either you know I've just been scorned
because some women just be like I don't need your help
they probably feel like you're short
and you probably can't reach the upper end
of the plane so that's why they probably feel bad for you
and guess what they can be right about that
see
well thank you Taz we appreciate you or into the playing. So that's why they probably feel bad for you. And guess what? They can be right about that. See?
Well, thank you, Tez.
We appreciate you.
No problem.
All right.
We'll see you tomorrow.
And make sure you subscribe to Tezlin Figaro's podcast,
Great Shot, No Chase,
on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network. And check Tez out this Saturday on the Women in Podcasting panel
at the sold-out Black Effect Podcast Festival atl shawty all right now when
we come back we have author and therapist resmaa menakeem joining us and we're gonna kick it with
him when we come back so don't move it's the breakfast club on bt rumor has it rumor rumor
has it call out a name or you gossiping or you chatting i'm gossiping this is the rumor report
i mean i guess we on the breakfast club this is where the tea spills, right? Yes. On the breakfast club.
Now, in more Jonathan Majors news.
Now, his attorney filed evidence on Wednesday that appears to show Jonathan's accuser uninjured and partying in a club after their alleged altercation.
Now, if you go to Ball Alert, Hollywood Unlocked or Shade Room, you can see pictures of this alleged woman in a bar or club after.
Why do you call her an alleged woman?
I just want to say alleged because to make sure.
I don't want to be like, that wasn't me in the photo.
That wasn't me.
I said alleged victim.
The woman, yes.
The alleged woman in a bar or club partying after the incident happened.
So they basically say she really didn't have any injuries.
Now, also, they're saying sources close to the case are saying that more victims of Majors
have come forward following his March arrest and are cooperating with Manhattan District
Attorney's Office.
Yikes.
So I don't know what's happening, but they're saying more people are coming up.
But I don't know.
Yeah, all of this is very unfortunate,
but the reality is you are innocent until proven guilty.
Sorry, Internet.
I know y'all think otherwise,
but there is still a thing called due process in this country,
and that's why when I see Hollywood
and all these people separating themselves from Jonathan,
I'm just reminded that innocent until proven guilty
and due process is only applied to certain people.
Yeah, and, you know, it's crazy because when you see something like that, innocent until proven guilty and due process is only applied to certain people. Yeah.
And, you know, it's crazy because when you see something like that,
it seems like it's a media attack on them.
It seems like a planned attack on them, the way that everybody's coming out. Oh, it does seem coordinated.
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a coordinated media.
I'm not going to say attack, but it definitely is a coordinated media.
Blitz.
Blitz, yes.
All these press releases coming out at the same time.
And, you know, you see the management and the PR team on one accord with one press release.
Like, yeah.
And they're using one outlet.
I think the outlet they usually use is Variety.
Yeah.
So, absolutely.
All right.
Once again, innocent until proven guilty.
That's supposed to be.
That's what it's supposed to be in this country.
It's supposed to be.
Doesn't always apply to certain people.
And the people it usually applies to aren't black.
Yeah.
I'll tell you that much.
But we'll see.
Now, Javante Davis and Ryan Garcia are fighting this weekend.
Can't wait.
April 22nd.
Now, yesterday they were on live, IG Live.
They were on Kai.
I think his name is Kai Sinat's live.
And they were talking about wagering their purse.
So if you don't know what wagering their purse is, they're going to make a certain amount on this fight.
Now they're talking about betting.
Yeah, not real purses. I know that we live in this era where, you know,
you might think that two men are absolutely betting their actual purses.
Right, right.
You know, men do carry purses in 2023.
Men do carry purses, but they're actually talking about betting or whatever they would make
on that fight yo you want to bet yeah let's do it the whole let's do it the whole person
yes let's bet you hear me on the live let's bet so everything for sure let's make a contract let's
sign it both of us let's do it okay and if you don't... If you really want it. Call him up. Call him up. We can't... Hey, we can't... Hey! We can't play.
We can't play.
Them young boys out there
goddamn, man.
How are you sure?
I don't speak twice for myself.
You already know.
Your boy Aiden
think he gonna win.
I know.
I am gonna win.
Them young boys out there
goddamn, man.
Yeah, they stupid.
Matter of fact,
I'm not even gonna bring God into it.
Them young boys out there
devil damn, man.
Yeah, they stupid.
Let me tell you something.
If you don't train all those weeks, okay, you don't train all those months to go in there and bet your purse.
I don't care how sure you are because guess what?
If you lose, you definitely deserve the money.
Yes.
And if you win, you definitely deserve your money.
Yes.
Cut it out.
That's pride.
Has anybody ever really done that?
Because I hear people say that.
If you beat me, I'll bet you my whole purse. You know, I'll bet you my whole purse I'll beat you. Does anybody ever really give up because i hear people say that if you beat me i'll bet you my whole purse you know i bet you up my whole purse i'll beat you does anybody ever really give up
their whole purse when that happens i i hope not there's no manager there is no attorney there's
no agent there's none of them that would advise you to do that none not at all none none none
whatsoever that's good listen man that's that's ass betting all day long because i promise you
if i lose i don't care what i said on live live, you ain't getting this hard-earned money that I got my ass kick for.
No way.
Because we all know any given Sunday, any lucky punch can swing,
and I don't mind.
You can be the nicest.
I'm trying to tell you.
You can knock me out and you take everything.
I'm trying to tell you.
Nah, it's not going to happen.
I can't wait to watch the fight, though.
Yeah, I can't wait to watch the fight, too.
Now, also, Young Miami confirms that her and Diddy have split.
Girl, tell me more.
Who am I saying that?
Tell me more, girl.
Hold on.
Get it together.
Tell me more, girl.
Get it together.
Hold on.
Tell me.
She says, we are still friends.
We are good friends.
But she says, we are single.
That is not my man.
When she said that? this was in the cut
the source is the cut she did a magazine for uh she did a interview with a magazine called the cut
was there an official couple i don't know they were remember she said they go together but
they single that's what i said she said they go together she said we go together real bad
so they don't go together real bad no more nah they don't go together real bad. So they don't go together real bad no more? Nah, they don't go together real bad anymore.
Damn.
You look disappointed by this one.
You like them together?
I did like them together.
Tell me more, girl.
I did like them together.
I just thought that they complimented each other.
I thought she kept Diddy younger.
That's impossible.
Don't lie.
She did.
See, that's what you think that Beijing do for y'all too.
You think it keeps y'all younger, but it don't.
Y'all just look stupid.
Diddy had a different swag. He had a different vibe. No, he didn't. Yes, he did. No, he didn't. Absolutely didn't. No, he didn't. Yes, he did. Still look that's what you think that Beijing do for y'all, too. You think it keeps y'all younger, but it don't. Y'all just look stupid. Did he have a different swag?
He had a different vibe with it.
No, he didn't.
Yes, he did.
No, he didn't.
Absolutely didn't.
No, he didn't.
Yes, he did.
Still look like the old man in the club.
Did he?
He was still shaking a little bit.
He was shaking a little better.
Yes, he did.
No, he didn't.
Yes, he did.
He look more tired than me, if you ask me.
Young girls, wearing him out.
Young girls, wearing his ass out.
Nah, did he look a little younger?
We're messing with young Miami.
I don't believe none of that.
He did.
Well, we wished him the best.
No, we don't. So, who he is? we wish them the best No we don't So will we use
What y'all is now
That's a good question
I don't know what they is now
What they is now
But they not together
Alright
And that is your rumor report
Why you got the fan like that
You was telling that
You was spilling that tea
About them relationships girl
I had to get into it
I got some more for you too
Cause there's a lot going on today
Give me
Where's my fan
We might not need a woman in here
If you keep giving me This feminine energy Where's my fan I need might not need a woman in here if you keep giving me this feminine
energy. Where's my fan? I need a fan.
I'm going to go get me a Flamin' Roll fan. You want to share my fan?
I don't want to share your fan. When we come back, we've got
front page news. Tezlin Figaro will be joining
us and we're going to open up the phone lines. It is
420. So 800
585-1051. We want to
hear your high stories. We want you to
finish this sentence. One time I got
so high that I what?
We'll take your calls after front page
news, so don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning on
BET.
Morning, everybody. It's D-E-J-N-V
Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
The Breakfast Club. It's 420, so happy
420 to everybody out there. What's happening
420? Now, 420 is a day
where most people celebrate
cannabis, marijuana, and people get high.
It's usually a time when people that don't usually smoke get a chance to smoke and try it out.
It's a damn shame that marijuana is not decriminalized on a federal level.
It's a damn shame that marijuana is not legalized on a federal level.
And I don't think there's no greater hypocrisy than these states that have legalized marijuana
for medicinal and recreational use,
but you still have people in prison for marijuana.
That's right.
Insane to me.
Absolutely.
So we are asking today, 800-585-1051.
Shout to everybody out there.
Everybody, all the stoners out there.
And shout to my own strain of marijuana.
Cannabis is called Slurred.
You can get it out in Detroit, House of Mary Jane Jane or any of the dispensaries out in Detroit and Michigan
should have Slurred.
If they don't, definitely ask for it.
But we're asking, one time I got so high that I what?
That is the question, 800-585-1051.
I'll tell you the story.
When I was up here, I think I was laughing for four or five hours.
It took me about 12 hours to get home that day.
My wife does not smoke or take edibles.
She had a bad trip one time.
I gave her an edible, and, man, she was all over the place.
She was one minute, she was crying.
Then she was happy.
Then she was mad at me.
Then she was happy.
It was the craziest trip.
My kids were there.
They didn't know what was going on.
It was the weirdest thing.
So we're asking, what is the
craziest thing? What's up with you, Charlamagne?
Well, I don't like to smoke. I like
to do edibles because when I smoke, it hits me too
fast. I have really bad
anxiety and really bad panic attacks.
I like to do edibles,
indigo. The last time I did smoke
was during COVID.
You know what I mean?
I smoked during COVID because I was bored, you know?
And you couldn't tell me I wasn't going to die.
You could not tell me that this was not going to be the end.
I really thought that I was going to overdose on marijuana
because this new weed, I don't know what's in this new weed.
So it was wintertime, and I had on some short pants and a hoodie,
and I figured, you know what, I need to go ground myself.
So I went outside barefoot with just a hoodie and i figured you know what i need to go ground myself so i went outside barefoot with just
a hoodie and shorts on in the freezing winter in new jersey trying to ground myself and then i went
to my favorite tree and i put my back up against my favorite tree and had my head up against my
favorite tree and i just remember i don't know how long i was out there i just remember my wife
saying get back in this house right now she literally came to don't she said get back in
this house right now and so i went back in the house and I lived so
that's the last crazy thing I remember doing
I remember one time taking it on a plane
and I just remember I was sitting first class
I was by myself and it was a big
I'm sorry I gotta use this word
it was a big fat family on a plane
big fat family the clumps
I was sitting next to the clumps on the plane
they were all big
and it just felt like they would just keep getting
bigger and keep getting bigger.
And I couldn't breathe and I was by
myself and my manager wasn't with me.
I just remember calling them like,
why aren't you here? And they just kept getting bigger
and then they were taking all the oxygen on the
plane. How many seats did they have?
They had like five seats. God damn.
And they were big. And there was only two of them.
And I just remember that.
Envy thought it was a family, but it was really one person.
One big old beast person on the planet.
Envy was so high, he thought it was a whole family.
Man, that messed me up so crazy.
Let's go to the phone line.
Man, that is horrible.
Hello, who's this?
This is Libby.
Good morning.
Libby, good morning. We're talking today is 420, happy 420 mama
Happy 420 is the best day of the year
I ain't gonna say all that now
Yeah, oh yeah, definitely, oh my god, I can't believe it
Now we're asking, one time I got so high that I what?
Man, last year 420, me and my homegirl, we were faded.
We ate edibles.
We were smoking.
Going down the highway, and I stopped at a green light.
Why was you driving high?
Man, it's better to drink.
Listen, no, no, no, my bad.
It's better to smoke and fly than drink and drive.
That's right. No, no, I mean smoke and fly than drink and drive. That's right.
No, no.
Don't do any of them.
No, I mean smoke and fly like if you're in a plane and somebody else flying the plane.
No.
Don't do any of them.
Because, man, when I'm high, I drive better.
No, no, no.
I feel like I pay attention better.
Nope.
I'm more alert.
Nope, nope.
You just said you were stopping at green lights, but you said you drive better.
Exactly.
You stopped at the down.
That's because I was too messed up.
You shouldn't have.
Them edibles put me on a different level
Yes
That's why you shouldn't have been driving crazy
Your crazy tail self
My goodness
Hello who's this?
Hey this is HML Sleep
What's up brother
We're talking about
One time I got so high that I what?
Man one time I got so high man
I was riding in the car with my wife
She started asking me questions Saying saying that I was sounding different.
Like, asking me questions.
I'm like, what do you mean I sound different?
She's like, yeah, every time you say something, you sound different.
Make a long story short, she got me so high, I was convinced that I was somebody else.
I couldn't even tell who I was.
Damn it, man.
I'm saying like, damn, are you really, am I really somebody else?
I'm thinking paranoid like a mug.
I'm riding in the car. I'm like, damn, my alter ego just came out. Damn it, man. Am I really somebody else? I'm paranoid like Muggs. I'm grinding the color.
My alter ego just came out.
Damn it, man.
That's the beauty of weed, though.
You should turn into somebody else.
Start freestyling.
Start rapping.
That happened to me one time.
Now that I think about it, I was in Columbia, South Carolina,
and I got so high.
I used to have a gray Silver Honda Civic, and I was high,
and I was driving, and I shouldn't have been like 20 years ago.
And I thought I was speeding.
And I looked to the passenger seat, and I saw myself in the passenger seat,
and myself looked at me and said, slow down.
So then I started driving slow, and then I realized I'm doing like 30
on the highway.
Cars going by.
Zoom, zoom, zoom. And then I got paranoid because I'm like, I'm driving so 30 on the highway. Cars going by you.
Zoom, zoom, zoom.
And then I got paranoid because I'm like,
I'm driving so slow the police going to stop me.
So then I started speeding up.
So I just started playing a game with myself the whole time
where I'm speeding up, slowing down, speeding up, slowing down.
But I made it home.
Jesus Christ.
800-585-1051.
Happy 420.
We're asking, one time I got so high that I what?
Call us up right now.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Happy 420.
That was a 420 mini mix, by the way.
So we're asking, 800-585-1051.
One time I got so high that I what?
We're going to the phone lines today.
Hello, who's this?
Tatiana.
Hey, Tatiana.
Good morning.
Good morning.
We're asking.
Hey, Jay.
And we're trying to know.
What's happening?
One time I got so high that I what?
I drove to the chicken place that I was at.
I ended up walking home.
Wait, you drove to a chicken joint
and then you walked home?
Yes.
But you forgot you drove?
I did.
Jesus Christ.
That's high.
I got all the way home
and was like,
oh shit, where's my car?
You must not have lived
too far from the place.
I was probably like 20, 30 minutes away.
Lord, have mercy.
Well, God bless you.
I'm glad you made it out alive.
That sounds crazy.
Hello, who's this?
Hi, this is Ty.
Hey, take us off Bluetooth.
Goose Creek, South Carolina.
Hey, 843, what's happening?
Take us off Bluetooth for speaking if you got us on there, mama.
I don't.
You can hear me?
Now we can.
Yes, we can.
We're talking about one time I got so high that I what?
So one time I got so high that my son came downstairs and asked for a bowl of noodles.
And I made it.
I sent it back upstairs and I made it.
And then I sat down, not realizing that I made the noodles for him.
And I sat there and ate the whole thing with my cup of Kool-Aid.
And then eventually he came downstairs asking, like, well, mom, where my noodles at?
And I was looking dumbfounded, like, oh, just give me a minute.
I'm going to make it.
But when I went in the kitchen, I made the last pack of noodles.
So I just ended up giving him McDonald's anyway.
So wait a minute.
So your son asked you to make noodles.
You so high that you made noodles for him and then you ate his noodles.
And then you had to go get a McDonald's.
I did.
I did.
First of all, first of all, first of all, I don't see nothing wrong with what you did.
Because when you high, them children's snacks be hitting.
Okay.
When you high, when you high, the things you high, them children's snacks be hitting, okay? They do.
When you high, the things you make for your kids be hitting.
Then you turned around and was a great mom and got him McDonald's,
and I know you got you a little something for yourself from Mickey D's, too.
I did.
What you got?
Apple pie.
I love them high meals.
What you got from McDonald's?
I did get an apple pie because apple pies are the best,
but I just got apple pie and some french fries. That's all? That is the I just got apple pie and some french fries. Everything else tastes weird.
That's all? That is the high meal.
Apple pie and some french fries.
People will go to McDonald's high and order a quarter pounder
with cheese and an apple pie and put the apple pie on the
quarter pounder. That's a sweetie meal,
isn't it? I think that might be a sweetie meal.
Carol, good morning.
Good morning. How you feeling
this morning? Tired,
but I'm here.
Happy 420.
So tell us the one time I got so high that I what?
So one time I got so high that I came home and my dog was with me and I was watching a TV show with another dog in the show.
And the dog in the show was barking and i felt like the dog was talking about
me and i thought my dog was sitting on the floor not defending me for this dog i love it so i locked
my dog up and put him in the cage and i went upstairs and went to sleep and the next day i
felt so bad no i'm with you so you punished your dog for no reason i the dog on the tv was talking
about me he definitely was talking about me first of all if The dog on the TV was talking about me. He definitely was talking about me.
First of all, if that dog on the TV was barking,
the dog in your house should have been barking too, just in case.
Oh, my gosh.
Just in case.
I'm with you.
That's what I said.
I'm with you.
Goodness gracious.
Yeah, the dog got the night in the cage.
I don't see nothing wrong with what you did.
He just did a little overnight stay, a little bit.
A little bit.
Hello, who's this?
My name is Janice.
Hey, Janice.
Good morning.
Where you calling from?
I'm calling from Indy.
Oh, you don't want to say.
All right.
Well, what's the one time I got so high that I what?
Oh, well, one time, me and a friend of mine, we took an edible at work. And I can say this now because I don't work for this job and haven't for a few years.
But I was supposed to be doing interviews for people's food stamps and whatnot.
And I was at my desk thinking, why don't people sit in the front lobby?
So them people didn't get their food stamps because your ass was high.
Because you fell asleep.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Somebody was coming to wake me up, but I got the job done.
But, yeah, I was in the clouds.
What if I told you that we used to be high as hell up here at the Breakfast Club
all the time back in the day?
All the time.
I'm sure of it.
You would believe me?
It was a bad time.
We used to be on them edibles and hit trip.
Oh, my goodness.
You hear me?
Definitely.
Definitely off the edibles.
I mean, tripping. Tripping, tri goodness. You hear me? Yeah, definitely. Definitely off the medical. I mean, tripping.
Tripping, tripping.
Yeah.
Saying anything to make each other laugh and dying laughing like it was the funniest thing in the world for no reason.
It was all fun and games until I passed out in this goddamn studio one day.
Not this studio, the old studio.
Yep.
Until I passed out in this studio one day and had to be rushed to the hospital for dehydration.
Yep. I bet y'all didn't know that. I thought y'all did know that. Maybe I told y'all. I don't remember. I don't know that. the old studio, until I passed out in this studio one day and had to be rushed to the hospital for dehydration.
I bet y'all didn't know that.
I thought y'all did know that.
Maybe I told y'all.
I don't remember.
Yeah, you took like two days off.
I had to.
And then you ain't want to play no more.
I ain't want to play no more.
We was wilding.
We was in and out of the clubs late at night,
getting high, doing edibles right before we came on air,
bringing the club with us, in here drinking, having a ball.
But that's all AI.
Any of that old stuff y'all heard from back then, that's AI.
That ain't even us. That was AI.
That wasn't really us.
That was other people.
That ain't even us.
All right.
Well, I also would like to say, please keep in mind that it is ridiculous,
absolutely ridiculous, that there's so many people,
so many states in this country that has legalized weed in some way, shape or form, whether it's from additional or recreational.
And there's still people locked up for marijuana in America. That is absolutely positively ridiculous.
And I know Joe Biden did a mass pardon of everybody who's in jail for simple marijuana possession.
But the reality is there is nobody in jail on a federal level for simple marijuana
possession so if joe biden wanted to he could literally pardon every single person that is
federally jailed for a non-violent weed offense he could pardon every single body if he wanted to
you know and that's what he should do because like i said it's ridiculous for people to still be in
jail for marijuana in a country that has legalized marijuana recreationally and medicinally in so many different states.
All right.
It's so silly.
Look at me right now.
I'm sitting here with a pre-rolled joint in my hand from Envy's pre-rolled line.
But there's people in this state locked up for marijuana.
That's right.
That don't make no damn sense.
No sense at all.
All right.
Well, happy 420.
Now, when we come back back we got your rumor report
we got to tell you why they keep taking down ice spices uh pictures and videos it's kind of crazy
we'll tell you why when we come back it's the breakfast club good morning rumor hazard rumor
rumor hazard call out a name or you gossiping or you chatting i'm gossiping this is the rumor
report i mean i guess we on the breakfast club This is where the tea spills, right? Yes. On The Breakfast Club.
Now, Ice Spice's post the last couple of days have been getting removed.
Charlamagne, you know why?
Nope.
Because she put a caption that said,
So I guess Instagram took it down because they thought that she was talking about, I guess, ISIS.
What is she talking about?
Herself.
That's her name.
That's her real name.
Her full name is ISISis and Nija Gaston oh but I guess they thought Isis was referring to the group that are terrorists I think they did that to me
before when I when I be calling no I said no I call those white domestic
terrorists that like storm the Capitol and stuff I call them vanilla Isis mm-hmm
I feel like they took one of my poles I don't know I feel like I did have taken
a poll done I guess it was for the same reasons yeah they said it violates I feel like they took one of my posts down. They took it down. I don't know. I feel like they have taken a post down.
I guess it was for the same reasons.
Yeah, they said it violates Instagram's community guidelines on violence or dangerous organizations.
But that's her name.
It is her name.
But better safe than sorry.
Because Ayo Isis sound crazy.
Ayo Isis!
Like, sound like you calling the troops.
Yeah, but that's her name.
I get it.
Yeah.
But they don't know that.
Now, Serena Williams is shopping her memoir. And they're saying that it could catch up to $10 million.
Easy money.
Now, this is just months after retiring from professional tennis.
The 23-time Grand Slam singles champion, Serena Williams,
is shopping it around.
So she's expected to get $10 million or more.
Easy money, and she deserves it all.
You have a book in print?
I don't have no $10 million.
I don't have no $10 million budget for no book.
No.
You get it back, though.
I got good budgets, but not no $10 million.
Not no $10 million?
Not $10 million.
But it's not too many people can fetch $10 million anyway.
No.
Serena Williams is, you know, once in a generational talent.
Right.
You know what I mean?
One of the greatest athletes of all time, period.
Mm-hmm.
You know, some say top five greatest athlete of all time. I don't see why you wouldn't put her in that category. So, yes, that sounds about right. She's definitely one of the greatest athletes of all time, period. Some say top five greatest athlete of all time.
I don't see why you wouldn't put her in that category.
So yes, that sounds about right.
She is definitely one of the greatest of all time.
Yeah, $10 million for a book, that sounds about right.
Just a side note, if you had to put three athletes,
greatest of all times, what three would you put up there?
Greatest athletes of all time.
Ooh.
Michael Jordan, definitely.
Michael Jordan.
I would do Serena.
I would. Michael Jordan. I would do Serena. I would.
Michael Jordan.
I'm not mad at Serena.
I have to think about that.
I don't know who I consider great.
Because, you know, you'd have to put, like, track and field people in there.
You'd have to put bicyclists because, you know, athletics to me mean, you know, stamina and conditioning.
I would do Floyd.
As a boxer?
I don't know if I'd put Floyd up there.
I'd do Floyd.
I would do Michael Jordan.
And I would do Serena Williams.
Three greatest athletes of all time?
No, I disagree with that list.
I'd put Tom Brady in there.
I definitely would put Brady in there.
But see, some people even talk about that.
They feel like Brady's not the most athletic person,
which I think is ridiculous.
But I don't know.
I'd have to think about that one.
That's a lot of sports because you have to put football players in there.
Football, soccer.
That's football. Whatever. You know what the hell i was trying to say yeah athlete means something
different like it's not about who was the best in their field it's like i don't know what the
hell athlete mean i just know that i wouldn't put floyd in that great athlete though i don't know
if he's top three all time but great athlete all right now uh ge, George Santos. You know who George Santos is, right?
The elected official.
Yeah, the elected official.
He is trying to do a bill called the Nicki Minaj Act or Minaj Act.
Now, the Minaj Act comes after Nicki Minaj was talking about the vaccine during the pandemic.
Now, she posted this.
She said, my cousin in Trinidad won't get the vaccine because his friend got it
and became impotent.
His testicles became swollen.
His friend was weeks away from getting married.
Now the girl called off the wedding.
So just pray on it and make sure you're comfortable with your decision.
Not bullied.
Did he ever find that swollen, that man?
I don't know.
So Santos said the purpose of the Menage Act is to establish a developmental period of new vaccines in order to generate public confidence.
I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
I just told you he was creating an act called the Menage Act,
and he told you what the Menage Act is supposed to do,
but it's based off of Nicki Minaj's post.
Let's go back to the greatest athletes conversation.
Greatest athletes of all time.
Michael Jordan, Deion Sanders.
Deion?
Definitely Deion Sanders.
Deion Sanders was all world in football and basketball.
I got to put Bo Jackson in there too.
You know what I'm saying?
Bo Jackson.
Dion Sanders, Bo Jackson, Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali.
Some people would go Muhammad Ali.
Some people would say Arthur Ashe for tennis.
Some people would say Babe Ruth in baseball.
Some people would say Tiger Woods golf.
I don't consider golf as athletes. Golf is athletes. Don't do that. Cristiano Ronaldo. Some people would say Tiger Woods golf. I don't consider golf as athletes.
Golf is athletes.
Don't do that.
Cristiano Ronaldo.
Some people say Cristiano Ronaldo.
What's the other one?
Messi?
Messi.
Some people say Messi.
I mean, for me, definitely, when I think about it, Mike,
I don't know why Deion Sanders and Bo Jackson are the two that stick out the most to me.
Just because they played two sports at high, high levels.
Deion Sanders might be the greatest athlete of all time.
Deion Sanders might be the greatest athlete of all time. Deion Sanders might be the greatest athlete
of all time. Because I know a lot of times... Over MJ?
Yes. A lot of times when we have these
conversations, Michael Jordan is a great athlete,
of course, but we think about the championships and
everything else, even though Deion won championships too
in football. But we're talking
athletic ability.
Deion Sanders might be the greatest athlete of all time.
He played football and baseball at a supremely high level.
He did.
Sometimes at the same time.
Yeah.
I could be making this up, but I feel like Deion used to play a football game in the day
and a baseball game at night sometimes.
I feel like I remember this.
Deion Sanders is the greatest athlete of all time, y'all.
You're saying Deion.
Deion Sanders is the greatest athlete of all time.
Oh, I can't even say all time.
I've only been alive 44 years.
So this is a kind of, in my lifetime,
Deion Sanders is the greatest athlete I've ever seen.
Yes.
I was born in 1978.
Michael played basketball and baseball.
He didn't play basketball and baseball at the same time.
And he didn't play professional baseball.
He didn't play for the White Sox.
Man, shut up.
Played for the Barons.
The goddamn Birmingham Barons.
He played for the Chicago White Sox. Man, shut up. Played for the Barons. The goddamn Birmingham Barons. He played for the Chicago White Sox.
Google it.
I got the jersey.
Google it.
Google it.
And take that.
You look stupid with that in your mouth like that.
You sound stupid.
I'm not arguing with you about this.
Michael Jordan did not play for no Chicago White Sox.
He played for the Birmingham Barons.
Okay?
I knew this before I saw the last dance.
The Barons jerseys look like Chicago White Sox jerseys.
Chicago White Sox.
Bet your butt.
Bet your butt.
Nope.
Bet your butt.
Nope.
Bet your butt, cheeks.
Nope.
Michael Jordan, Jordan's decision.
It says, Ed Jordan did his time on the ground
in a stint with the White Sox as a light-hitting rookie in double-A ball.
So he played for the White Sox.
He didn't play for the White Sox.
He played for the Birmingham Barons.
He played double-A White Sox.
He played for the White Sox.
Oh, he should have bet your butt.
Oh, it was the double-A Birmingham Barons.
Man, shut up, man.
I'm not talking to y'all no more.
He played one season with the Double A Burns.
He played 127 games.
He just hit 202.
You're right.
I'm glad I didn't bet my butt.
All right, and that is your rumor report.
Now, Charlamagne, who you giving that down?
I ain't going to talk to you.
You know what, though?
That's why therapy works so well, because I ain't even got to argue.
I knew I was right.
You know what I'm saying?
You almost had my blood pressure up for two seconds.
But it ain't work.
It's over here minding my goddamn business. Okay? Four after the hour. You know who Donkey of saying? You almost had my blood pressure up for two seconds. But it didn't work. It was over here minding my goddamn business.
Okay?
Four after the hour.
You know who Donkey of the Day is going to?
Donkey of the Day is going to an unidentified man who really pissed me off when I read this story.
Because he was on a Southwest flight to Orlando.
And he was bothering people that he don't need to be bothering.
Okay?
And we'll talk about it four after the hour.
And Jordan did sign a contract with the White Sox.
It was just the double A team.
I don't remember anything about that.
I just remember the Birmingham Barons.
You should have bet some butt then.
I'm good.
Okay.
I'm all right.
All right.
Rumor report, Ma.
Donkey of the Day, when we come back, it's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
The Breakfast Club.
The Breakfast Club, bitchy.
Donkey of the Day. Withlemagne Tha God.
I don't know why y'all keep letting him get y'all like this.
Donkey of the Day for Thursday, April 20th, 420,
goes to an unnamed Orlando man, okay?
But if y'all know his name, please let me know
because I can update this story later
because this story pissed me off.
Why? Because I got four daughters, okay?
Ages 14, 7, 4, and about 18 months.
So even my children, okay, so even though my children are pretty good on flights, all right,
there's times where, of course, they have cried on planes.
I'm sure your kids have cried on a plane before.
Absolutely.
Why? Because that's what babies do.
They can't communicate.
They don't know how to use their words because they don't know how to talk yet.
So they cry to let you know they want something.
Whether it's food, sleep, hell. their words because they don't know how to talk yet so they cry to let you know they want something was this food sleep hell maybe on a plane their little ears are popping and they don't know what
else to do because they don't know what they are experiencing okay but i was reading the new york
post today and i saw the headline man on orlando flight throws a fit over crying baby f that that's
literally the headline it's got the f that in there and everything see this man was on a Southwest Airlines flight aka his first mistake oh that's what it was right there
Southwest Airlines ain't nothing but a Greyhound bus in the sky matter of fact I'm not even gonna
do Greyhound like that okay Southwest Airlines ain't nothing but a Peter Pan bus a mortar bus
in the sky okay and ghetto is as ghetto does and if you ain't never been to the ghetto don't ever
come to the ghetto because you wouldn't understand the ghetto So stay the F out of the ghetto now replace ghetto with Southwest and it's the same damn thing
Okay
And this video that went viral is proof of that because this unidentified man on this Southwest flight to Orlando is upset that a baby
Is crying on the plane listen to this fool They're not in Florida yet. Who needs to call? It can't do with the house sleep the whole time.
You haven't served me anything.
I'm trying to keep my calm, but if I wasn't on this plane...
Because there's a child trying with the flight.
God f***ing stop.
That's what's happening.
Who's worse?
A baby with no mask on or a boy with no mask on?
Can you lower that voice?
No, let's not. No, no, no, no, no. Can you lower that voice?
Let's be rational.
No, let's not.
No, no, no, no, no. No, let's be rational.
Hold on, hold on.
You want to be rational?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't tell me what you're talking about.
Let's be rational.
We are in a f***ing tin can with a baby in a goddamn echo chamber.
And you want to talk to me about being f***ing okay?
Okay, because you're yelling.
So is the baby.
Did that motherf***er pay an extra to yell?
First of all, first of all.
He said you're yelling, so is the baby.
Let's not even get to that part yet.
First of all, I know you ain't complaining about not being served nothing on a Southwest flight. I know you're not complaining about not being
served nothing on a Southwest flight. Second of all, you can't be upset that a baby is throwing
a fit and then throw a fit like a baby. Okay. The actual baby is just doing what actual babies do.
That baby had a reason to be crying and throwing a fit. The reason is because it's a baby.
But what's your problem, sir?
The flight attendant told you you are a man and you are indeed a man.
Unless, of course, you identify as a baby, which could possibly be the case because it is 2023.
But for you to be upset that a baby is crying on a plane, I'm really starting to wonder what's up with y'all empathy.
OK, yes, a baby is crying on a plane.
That's normal.
OK, but mind your business. A baby just can't stop crying on demand. And a parent can't make a baby is crying on a plane. That's normal. But mind your business. A baby just can't stop crying on demand.
And a parent can't make a baby stop crying on demand.
You got to figure out what's wrong with the baby and then you handle it.
That's the way it works.
And then you got the nerve to say, did that baby pay extra to cry?
Probably, because it's Southwest.
All right.
But that is also why you really 100% grade A sucker in my book because you would not try any other baby like that, okay?
Not little baby, not soda baby, especially not the baby.
The baby would smack fire at you.
And Birdman baby, the number one stunner,
you would put all respect on his name, so stop playing, okay?
And the main reason I don't like this story,
the main reason you get in the biggest e-hall is because it it feels like it's a man picking on a woman flying by herself because if that woman was with
her husband or it was a husband traveling alone with one of his babies which i've done you wouldn't
play with that man like that and you damn sure wouldn't play with that woman if she was with
her man this is how the convo would have went on southwest if she was with her man. This is how the convo would have went on Southwest if she was with her baby father.
Let's do rations.
We are in a f***ing tin can
with a baby in a goddamn echo chamber,
and you want to talk to me about being f***ing okay?
Y'all b****es gonna die in the hood.
You lived your whole life, bro.
You ain't s***.
Did that motherf***er pay an extra to you?
Suck my b****. Y'all b****es ain't gonna never make it out the hood. That's right. Y'all b****es gonna die, bro. You ain't s***. You're dead, motherf***er. Pay me back for the deal. Suck my b***h.
Y'all a**es ain't gonna never make it out the hood.
That's right.
That a**es gonna die, bro.
That's right.
That's right.
Big, soldier boy, SMD energy.
Suck my D from the back like a pacifier.
Who the baby now?
Jesus.
Okay?
I'll have you crying uncontrollably.
You'll be begging me to burp you.
All right?
Do a whole rectal temperature check on you.
The moral of the story
is leave mothers and their babies alone okay trust me the only thing you should be doing when you see
mothers attempting to mother in public is mind your business please give this unidentified man
that was on this southwest airlines flight to orlando really being a baby the biggest hee haw The biggest E-Hawk. Mm-hmm.
Directive temperature check got you excited?
I mean, don't excite somebody with a good time.
You know, he might like it.
But anyway, you want to play a game?
No, I don't want to play a game.
You want to play a game?
Why you don't want to play a game?
Because the credits is rolling on BET right now.
The credits is rolling on BET?
The credits is rolling right now.
You want to play a game?
Mm-mm.
Okay.
I don't want to play a game.
Mm-mm.
What do you think he is? What do I think he is? Mm-mm. I want to play a game. All right. What do you think he is?
What do I think he is?
Mm-mm.
Well, I saw the video, so I know what he is.
What is he?
A nigga baby.
You know what?
Wake that ass up in the morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building.
That's right.
An author.
He has a new book out right now, Monsters in Love. Resmaa Minikin. Welcome, brother. Hey, man. Anytime I get a chance to spend some time with y'all, it's always good for me. Oh, thank you. I missed you
last time. I was traveling, but you're here now. How are you doing? How are you feeling, brother?
I'm doing good, brother. I'm doing really well. The book's doing well. All of my books are doing
really well. My family's good. My wife's good. My doing really well. I am, my family's good.
My wife's good.
My kids are good.
You know, I can't complain, man.
Reginald's not just an author to me.
He's a teacher and a healer.
Absolutely.
You know, tell me, talk to the people about what Monsters in Love is about.
So Monsters in Love, man.
So a lot of people don't know, but I started, a lot of my work started as a therapist.
So I've been doing therapy for 32 years.
And and a lot of my work was in couples working with couples.
And a lot of the stuff that I saw out there, brother, that was that was especially as it relates to black people and embodies a culture.
It was just basically giving people tips, you know, and, and, and a lot of times, man,
when you in long-term relationships, being in a long-term relationship is different than being
in a dating relationship. Right. And a lot of the tips are about how you rekindle things as
opposed to how do you grow up? And so, and so, uh, I wrote a book a number of years ago called Rock the Boat. Rock the Boat was really about, you know,
some of the same stuff that Monsters is. But what happened was, is that once Rock the Boat came out
and it didn't really sell that well. But what ended up happening was, is that over the course
of the last 10, 12 years, I've grown as a person, I've grown as a therapist, I see things differently.
I've grown as a husband, I've grown as a father,
and I've grown as a black man
who's trying to do liberatory work.
And so when I got the rights back to my book,
I was like, let me put the stuff in
that I've learned over the last 12 years.
And that's what Monsters and Lovers is.
Oh, wow.
In the book you say, no matter what you do
or who your lover is, eventually your partnership begins love is. Oh, wow. You say in the book, you say no matter what you do or who your lover is,
eventually your partnership begins to hurt.
Yes, right.
Why is that?
And how do we deal with that?
So, you know, we've been conditioned to believe that all we got to do is try and rekindle
or try and, you know, let's start having date night.
Let's start doing all that different type of stuff. And what you find is that those that that that purpose of relationships at the beginning is to draw you two together.
That's the purpose. That's the only purpose.
And you start in the way that you draw each other together is that you start you.
You usually only tell each other about the similarities or you like underbarter basket weaving. Oh, you like this.
And you, I like that too, right?
But what happens after about a year or two years,
what you start to find is that you start to show the differences.
And that's when we start to think something's going wrong.
Nothing's going wrong.
It's just the machinery of relationships doing what is,
and it's designed to squeeze you.
So you get past your own adult developmental immature issues,
right? But it don't feel good. And it takes a long time before people are willing to actually say,
you know, there's pieces there. How do I be the person that I want to be at the same time that
I'm connected to somebody that I love more than anything else? It's easy to do it by yourself, right?
It's a whole lot harder when you're in with somebody
and over the course of time you start to notice,
hey, I love this person, but I also hate them.
There's some hate between us.
That's healthy?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Really?
Hate is healthy?
Brother, let me say this.
Y'all been married a while, right?
22 years. 22 years. I've been married. I've been married with my wife for 25 but we've been married since 2014 28 yep i've been i've been with my wife for
30 years right one of the things that i learned through the course of that is that over time so
so so relationships end up at the beginning or relationships at the beginning end up being this thing where you think that the design is for the person to make you happy, right?
But the design of it is designed to make you grow up.
So when you say to a person, I choose you.
It's just me and you.
There's nobody else.
At that moment, the relationship becomes more finite.
More of what I do impacts you.
More of what you do to me impacts me.
When you get to finite relationships, when a person doesn't want to do what you think they should do, you are tested.
Right? That's where the hatred comes in at, because what ends up happening is you want to find a way around it.
Your partner wants to find a way around that pressure, that critical mass. And what happens
is, is that over time you either learn how to grow up through that or you blow it through your
partner, right? That makes you start to make choices about how you want to be
and who you want to be with that only happens in a long-term relationship that doesn't happen in
an infant relationship when you're just dating or you out here screwing around are you doing it
what the reason why people screw around is that they what they do is that they bring in a third
person to handle the heat that two people should be handling i'll explain that break that down
that's not like a little threesome.
Yeah, no, but that's what he's saying.
But that's exactly what I'm saying.
So if something is happening between me,
and that's why I wrote the book.
I wrote the book, I wrote this book to address
not just heterosexual relationships,
but what I did was look at all of the people
that came into my office, both trans relationships, gay relationships,
heterosexual relationships. And I said, you know what? There's this patterning regardless, right?
It's not where things go. It is that when you get into a relationship with another person and you
say, I choose you, that pressure increases, right? Because it matters what they think about you it matters what you think about them right so what ends up happening is is that when we start to look for ways around it to
take the heat out what you're really doing is taking the heat that could actually transform
the relationship so if i can't handle stuff that's happening between me and you i bring a third person
in now that heat is being carried by three people but it should only be carried by two right right the and and what we try and do is find a way around stuff as opposed
to going through it and and you know i mean y'all been in relationships long enough you know there
are times where you were the easy way out we're we're trying to get around it looks good but you find that when you do it that it undercuts your development right it
undercuts like like the pressure the pressure i'm not saying you always should have pressure but i'm
saying the pressure actually creates opportunities for you to say who do i want to be and not only
who do i want to be but who do i want to be with but who do I want to be with you? Right? So in layman's terms, you're basically saying, you know,
in some relationships, let's say they're having problems sexually
in a relationship.
And instead of keeping the heat in the relationship,
a woman might step out with somebody else that solves that problem
instead of dealing with it at home.
Not solves the problem.
So takes the heat out of it. Right. Because if I if so.
So a lot of times people steal each other's choices. Right.
So so it's one thing if we're in a relationship and and I come to you and I say, look.
I want to deal with somebody else. Right.
I'm giving you the choice to you. You wanted to have a monogamous
relationship. I'm giving you the choice to decide whether or not you want to continue to be in a
monogamous relationship. I've made a decision. I no longer want to be in a monogamous relationship.
Right. So what I do, what we do a lot of times is we don't give our partners that choice. We steal
it from them. We say, you don't get a choice to be in a monogamous relationship anymore.
You have to be in a choice.
You have to be in a poly relationship, right?
And so the moment that I do that,
I take the heat out, right?
And if I stay with that person,
here's the catch.
That heat always comes back
because it's not the heat around
getting people to do what I want to do.
It's the heat, it's the call to grow up as a person being connected to another person, not being disconnected, but being connected to another person.
You mentioned something earlier I want to go back to when you you said when you when you talk to couples and a lot of times the answer for couples is, well, let's have a date night.
The date night will fix that. And you said that's not the answer. So that's the answer for couples is, well, let's have a date night. The date night will fix that.
And you said that's not the answer.
So that's the first thing couples usually say.
Those are the tips.
We have kids.
We work too much.
We're not spending time with each other.
Let's do a date night.
But you're saying that might not be the answer.
So think about it like this.
When we were first dating, we had infinite choices.
There are things that we could do.
At some point, I could make a decision.
I don't want to do this no more.
I'm going to go date somebody down the street, right?
But when you make a commitment like this, have y'all noticed this?
And we've heard this before.
When we were first dating, everything was cool.
And the moment we moved in together, the moment we started, the moment we said I do, stuff changed.
Sex changed.
The perceived respect changed.
Like all of this stuff changed.
And what I tell people is that that is an important element in long-term relationships.
Isn't that normal?
It's absolutely normal.
It is absolutely normal part of relationship,
but we've been conditioned to believe that when that happens,
something's going wrong, right?
But when you say to another person, I choose you,
you get right up against your own development because if you do something like, it's like this.
This is why people can go out to a club
and tell a person in the club all their
secrets but the person that's laying on the pillow next to them they won't say nothing about why
because if i say that to you if i say something to you something about either sex or something
about the way i want to have a baby and i know you don't want to have a baby i want these particular
things and i say it to you and you turn your face up right then if I don't
have a clear sense of myself in that moment I'm eventually I'm gonna stop saying that to you
because what you reflect back to me I can't tolerate correct I wonder um you know did that
make sense did that make sense it does I wonder when you talk about that that that rough patch
how do you know the difference sometimes because like some people will get divorced and they'll say irreconcilable differences.
That's right.
That's what that sounds like to me.
That's right.
So the way that you, sometimes you only know the differences as you go through it, right?
This is what I say, that relationships are people growing machines, right?
I'm not the same dude I was when I met my wife, right?
Hopefully I'm a little bit more, hopefully I'm I'm a little bit more and
hopefully I can tolerate things a little bit differently hopefully because of the arguments
because of the fights because of some of the some of the what I call the kind of critical mass that
comes into the relationship hopefully I've been able to say that when we go through it, that there's a purpose to it.
Right.
And it takes a minute to,
to,
to find like when we're going through stuff,
when my wife,
when,
when,
when something is important to my wife or important to my partner and we're
grinding on each other,
like,
like,
like there are things in a relationship that you're not going to get through
over just because you agree to disagree.
You're going to have to get through it because you're grinding on each other.
You're going to have to get through it because this is not a choice.
This is not about making quote unquote choices. this is about us growing up in a way that says,
I actually now can handle what it is that you're bringing to the table.
Before when you brought it to the table,
I would need you to change in order for me to be all right.
I need for you to agree in order for me to be all right.
Well, long-term relationships, you don't get that bargain.
People actually have to grow up and transform
and be the person that they want to be to tolerate the conundrums that are happening right now.
Right. It's not about just behavior change. And that's one of the things when I would be working with couples.
Couples come in thinking that your job is to protect or your job is to fix something that's working in a relationship. So they give you this
frame and your job as a therapist. And what I realized over time is that my job as a therapist
is not to just take their frame as the, as what the problem is, that there is historical stuff
that's happening. There's intergenerational stuff that's happening. There's persistent,
especially if we're in black skin, brown skin, indigenous skin, there's persistent institutional weathering that happens to us and in our bodies.
And then there's our own personal pieces that all show up at the same time.
You're not going to weather. You're not going to deal with that by just agreeing to disagree about something.
Let me ask you a question. You know, you being a therapist and talking to couples and married couples,
do you feel like couples give up too fast?
Because of the things that you just said that, you know, people don't want to grind.
Yeah.
Let's agree to disagree.
That's right.
They need to find ways around it. Release the fire somewhere else.
Do you feel that?
Here's what I would say.
So there are times when I've been in a
in a session with a couple
and I go
they may need to get away
from each other
right
and you recommend that
I don't recommend it
I don't say that
I don't think y'all need to be together
I think you need to go over there
you need to go over there no You need to go over there.
No, no, no.
I don't recommend it.
But as a therapist, I'm working with the energy that's in the room, right?
I'm working with what's showing up in the room.
I don't have these like this kind of tab that says, okay, this isn't happening.
You don't need to be together.
You don't need to be together.
What happens is that people end up making that decision because they end up coming up against things that say if i stay with this person and i
allow them to keep eating my heart the way that they're eating my heart i'm probably not going
to be the person i want to be on the other side of this wow and so and so in those situations people
stop being together and so so to answer the question around whether or not to give up too soon.
I'm not I don't think that this is not about Resmaa saying y'all need to stay together no matter what.
This is about being being able to key into things that say.
When we get to this place. Am I willing or not willing to give up the most precious parts of me
and and and there you know there comes a time in a relationship when you're in there when i'm in
there with a couple and i end up seeing um a pattern play out and the the one person in the in the couple because they're so busy
fighting does don't see that the other person just grew up in that second you
can grow up in a second oh yeah okay oh yeah there are there are things there
are things that happen in an office where the I'll give you an example about
about two years ago I was working with this with this couple
and they kept arguing about and the thing kept coming up around wanting to have a child right
he wanted to have a child she didn't right and she kept saying as soon as my career
we can have as soon as we get a house we can can, as soon as, and he was like, okay, this is going, this is five years now.
And every time I bring it up, you keep acting like you don't want, and you're saying you want to have it, but you keep acting like you don't want to have it.
And I keep coming to you trying to get you right.
Now, in a typical, in a typical situation, the therapist would be saying, well, you know, what do you want?
And, and let's just try and figure this out.
And let's write down and let's use I statements and do that stuff.
I didn't do that because I knew that the heat was important.
This was an issue that they can't agree to disagree about.
This was an issue that you're going to have to grow up through this.
This is going to be a deal breaker.
This is going to be a deal.
But not a deal breaker in that a deal breaker where you get away from each other a deal breaker was in that this is important
correct do you understand what i mean and so what ended up happening was there was a moment in time
where she said he said he said she said well you can't make me have a baby and he did this thing
and it was very subtle he did this thing he she said you can't make me have a baby and he did this thing and it was very subtle he did this thing he she said you can't make
me have a baby he said you know you're right and I'm gonna stop making trying to make you have a
baby I'm gonna stop trying to make you have a baby with me and stop trying to make you
be with me. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to start doing the thing. I'm going to start acting
in accordance with what I say I want. I'm the one that's responsible for the birth control
in this relationship. I'm the one that always has to put the condoms on. I'm the one that always has
to do these particular paces. I'm no longer responsible for that. So if we're gonna start to have a child
I'm gonna act in accordance. I want to have a child I'm gonna start acting like
it. You don't want to have a child you've been acting like you haven't wanted to
have a child. You haven't you you you haven't you haven't come to me about
having a child. You haven't worked it you know you we haven't talked about how we
get the fertile and all that. We haven't worked it you know we haven't talked about how we get fertile and all
that we haven't talked so you're acting in accordance with what you want i on the other
hand have not been acting in accordance with this this happened in a second this is what you did
i haven't been acting in accordance i'm acting in accordance she goes what what you're gonna make me
have a baby he goes no i'm gonna make me have a baby you get to make whatever choice you need to make. I'm no longer
responsible for the birth control. Now,
that's one thing. That sounds
like an ultimatum. That is not an ultimatum.
If it is an ultimatum,
it's an ultimatum to him.
So,
long story short, they start going through
it, right?
They get ready to engage in
sex and all that different type of stuff
and he says and she looks at him she goes you got the condom he goes i'm not putting a condom on
right and she goes get up we're not we're not going to have sex we're not going to do these
pieces right and he says okay but i'm not going to do this forever right and they keep nothing's
going wrong when that's happening you're making sure You're giving people a chance to make choices.
That's right.
That's right.
And in the process, she gets to say,
I really don't want to have a baby,
or I don't want to have a baby with you.
And those hard arguments start to, right?
Nothing's going wrong in that moment.
People are growing up as adults in real time.
And that particular couple, what ended up happening is,
is that they ground on that for like a year.
Going back and forth like that.
Looking for ways out.
Looking for, you know, I don't, blah, blah, blah.
You can't make.
And then at one point, he got to a place where he said,
look, I love you more than anything on this planet.
And I want to have a baby.
I understand you're saying you don't want to have a baby and I can't make you have a baby.
I want to have a baby and I'm going to act like I want to have a baby.
And I'm telling you that.
And they got through it.
They ended up having a child.
Wow.
Right? got and they got through it they end up having a child right but through the grind not because
they found a way around the grind or you you can't agree to disagree about the things that are
central can't agree to disagree about children can't agree to disagree about money you can't
disagree to disagree about in-laws right you can't agree to disagree about those things you're going
to have to go through those things and grow up let me ask ask you a question. In a lot of time in relationships,
you always hear a lot of older people, right,
call them the OGs, they say,
sometimes losing an argument is winning a battle.
Sometimes apologizing when you're not wrong
is winning the battle.
Sometimes just pretty much saying that person is right,
women or men is not necessarily losing the battle,
is not losing the war, is just winning that battle maybe what are your
thoughts to that when people don't necessarily be certain 100% honest but
they say certain things just to stop the argument or so that person this is the
vibe piece can let me ask you let me ask you a question yes sir
can you tell when you and your wife are dealing with something that's important
and vibratorily she just placates you she just blow it she's like she gives in of course but
the sweetness that you really wanted has been taken away of course you know so sometimes we
say we want something from our partner right and they give in and we say that felt nasty they felt like you just did something
to me right that's the sweetness that's been withheld right so those types of like tips like
just give in and stuff like that your partner if you're with your partner over three years
you're not just languaging with them in terms of what you say out of your mouth. You're picking up on vibes and vibrations.
You're picking up on sensation in the body.
You're picking up on a whole different embodied language.
You're not just picking up on what they're saying.
So when people give in, right, just to get.
So one of the things I used to say in my relations,
when I worked with couples couples was this kind of dynamic
there would be a time where the person a person would give in if you're talking about sex or
something like that the person would just give in right say okay you want sex all as much okay i'm
gonna give you sex right and one and what i call that dynamic is and i would say to the partner i
say oh i get what you're doing you're getting on your back to keep your partner off your back.
Your partner always knows that.
Whether they can articulate it,
they always knows when you've withheld those pieces from them. Because what you really want is the sweetness from them,
not just them giving in.
But you can't articulate that.
So when it happens, you don't know what else to say.
You just take it.
And every time you take leftover sex or leftover things from a partner, you break your heart and your partner's heart.
You know it. your partner that you know they're not really giving themselves or giving themselves to the
relationships or giving them to you know the sweet parts of themselves and you take it your partner
goes you don't even deserve the good stuff that i got because you're taking the crumbs right there's
nothing going wrong when that happens so but, but, but we think little tips like
that. Let's do this, let's do that. And everything will be right. But eventually the critical mass
will build back up and you'll be deal. Have you noticed you have some of the same arguments? I'm
saying this to you too. Have you noticed you have some of the same arguments now with your partner
that you did when you first started? Not the same exact ones, but the patterning. It's the same, the things.
Because you're learning each other all over again.
Not only are you learning each other,
but it's because those things are important
and the things that you could normally go,
oh, that's not that important,
or maybe this, that, and the other, right?
That's already done.
The only thing that's left is the hard stuff now,
the stuff that you can't placate.
So that's why you keep going over and over and over again.
I love everything you're saying, man.
And you have a section called How Therapy Really Works.
Yes, right.
And it's in the chapters of When Therapists Cop Out.
How do therapists often fail couples?
Tips.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tips.
What you're giving sounds like real, tangible things I can apply to a situation.
It's the grit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This stuff, marriage forces you to develop a thick skin, a fortified mindset, and a malleable heart.
You understand what I mean?
That malleable heart is the key piece.
Some of us develop a thick-skinned relationship.
Some of us develop a fortified mindset and a hardened heart.
Right?
It's much harder to be in a relationship.
Most of us that are in long-term relationships are in long-term relationships with somebody at some point that hurt us.
Absolutely.
Right?
This isn't a relationship with somebody you just meet.
This is a relationship with somebody that you've had the opportunity to hurt them
and they have hurt you in some way or another, right?
And you're still in a relationship.
That's a whole different process of working through than dating, right?
The way that therapists cop out is that most here's the here's the dirty little secret. Most therapists. Are not as conditioned to deal with the heat and the trauma in relationships.
They've been trained and got their Ph.D. They've been trained and got the L.I.C.S.W.
They've been trained in those pieces, but not trained in conditioning around conditioning their body to be able to deal when all that heat shows up in the room.
Think about it like this.
If you've ever been, if DJ, if me and you were boys, right?
And I came to you one day and I said, hey, man, I'm thinking about running a marathon.
And you'd be supportive, right?
You both would be supportive.
And you say, hey, cool, man, I know this dude.
And, you know, I ran a marathon. You give me all the support.
And then I looked at you in all seriousness. And you looked at me and you said, hey, man, when you're thinking about running a marathon.
And I looked at you in all seriousness. I said tomorrow. I'm going to run this tomorrow.
The first question you're going to say is, well, have you been running before?
And I looked at you and I said, no, I haven't run it. But I did hear a podcast on it.
I read a book on it.
Right.
You know, I'm getting ready to be in some trouble.
Right.
I'm getting my whole.
You know that I'm not conditioned to deal with what I'm getting ready to put myself through.
Marriage and race and sex is no different.
Most of us are not conditioned to deal with long-term relationships and sex.
Right?
And so that includes therapists.
So when that stuff all comes into the room, when all that heat comes into the room, we've been trained to teach people I statements.
I was going to ask. I statements?
I statements.
Rather than me saying, you know, when you do this, this is a, can you use the I
statement?
Say how you feel.
Say I feel.
Got you.
Got you.
Got you.
Got you.
The moment you do that, couples know, oh, you can't handle the heat that we're bringing
into the relationship.
So they start taking care of you.
Right? So they start taking care of you. Right. That's how and most therapists are trained in that way.
They have not been conditioned to actually work with the heavy heat that shows up.
Most of the time when people come into the come into our office or come into the office, y'all think about this.
Most of the time when you go see a therapist, that stuff has been going on for four, five, six, seven,
eight, nine, 10 years before it goes.
That's all that heat coming into the room.
Most therapists are not conditioned to deal with that.
A lot of people go to therapy, a lot of couples,
because they want to learn how to communicate better,
but you say you're against that.
They don't want to know how to communicate better.
They figure, they done tried to do this for 10 years.
They figure they'll pay you
$200 an hour
for you to figure out
a way around it too.
Or to be a referee.
to figure out a way
instead of going through it.
Instead of going through it
to find a way around it.
Got you, got you, got you.
Right?
And so what ends up happening
is that,
and then most therapists
think that their job
is to help them
or help to fix them.
Right?
Rather than helping them create a
container so the stuff that happens literally every everything that happens in a relationship
has a function everything there's not one thing that happens in a relationship that does not have
a function and most of the time therapists have not been conditioned to look at what's the function of this particular
thing whether is whether it's good bad whatever how does it function and once i know how it
functions then i can work with it and see if the function can be changed if it can be worked with
if it can be grown up some that's not where it starts though we don't want to give them too much
i know i know i did i did have a one last question for
myself I wanted to know you know it's course we on BT so a lot of couples
watch on BT and listening on the radio a lot of things that when people call they
always say they have a problem in a relationship for one or two reasons one
is financially they feel like their their spouse is not working at potential
that's right and if you like they have to be too much of a support system.
That's right.
And the other one, I realize a lot of people feel like their spouse doesn't understand them.
Right?
Let's say you're a woman and you're taking care of two kids and you're working.
And then you come home and you're tired and your husband doesn't understand that.
Or your husband and you're working and you're working two, three jobs.
And when you get home, you're tired and you want that break. And your wife doesn't understand that or your husband and you're working and you're working two, three jobs. And when you get home, you're tired and you want that break. And your wife doesn't understand that.
How do you help people in that situation? So, so, so, so, you know, that same pattern also happens in the gay relationships and the trans relationships that I've worked with in my office. So it's not just, you know, male,
female, right? This idea of communication is one of the things that I think really jacks us up,
right? We think that communication is verbal, like communication is if I tell you what I need,
that's good communication. In actuality, if I already know what my wife thinks about me, right?
She's communicated, whether it's verbally, non-verbally, whether it's through vibes or whatever.
She has communicated.
I know exactly that I know my wife does not like a particular thing or does not like me, right?
You better change it.
Right.
I could change it.
If I could change it, I if i could change it i probably
would have changed right the easier things i would have changed my wife because i know that
from my wife that's good communication she has communicated to me that she doesn't like me the
problem is i can't tolerate what she's communicating right that same thing is I say in relationships happens in the two scenarios that you put. We think that if I if I say to my partner, I'm tired. Then they should in some way respond by making me not tired or at least helping me when I say I'm communicating that I'm tired. And what I tell people is, is this what I say the thing about conditioning?
Most of us are not conditioned to pick up on when our partner is really getting to a place to where this is a, to use your term, this is a deal breaker.
Right. Like not deal breaker in that I'm going to leave, but a deal breaker in that I i don't know what i'm going to do but i know i ain't doing this no more right that's not anything
going wrong that's an important element because it is it what it does is helps people be very clear
this right here i've been doing this for 10 years i'm no longer doing this no more with you
i'm not leaving but i ain't doing this right Right. And what happens is, is that a lot of
times when this stuff is showing up, people want to find ways around it. They want little tips.
They want little things to try and figure out a way around it. There is no way around that piece.
You got to grow through that. You have to get to those places. That buildup has to happen.
And people have to be able to get to a place to where
they go you know what this is you're important to me i'm important to me too though and that is a
lifelong thing right that happened so the four things that get people into conundrums and in
difficult situations four things money sex kids and in-laws you can't agree to disagree about those things
money sex kids and in-laws not even in-laws you can't agree to disagree hey somebody i don't like
your mama but for the last 10 years she's been coming and staying with me and giving her opinion
about stuff and i've been getting around and i've been scooting around i've been scooting around it
and i've been trying to say something about it. Now I'm at a place now,
we 10 years in, I'm at a place now where I have enough in me to where you're important to me.
I'm important to me too. I can now say to you, I don't like your mama. I don't want her coming,
staying with us for five weeks. I don't like, I don't like the way she deals with me right and I'm willing
to fight with you about that do you understand what I mean it's important
that we fight about this glad you keep using the word fight absolutely but it's
an important fight it's not a fight that about something's going wrong it's a
fight about you're important to me this is important to, and I'm important to me at the same time.
I got a few more questions because I know people will hear this and they'll be like, is Monsters in Love just for couples in conflict?
No. Monsters in Love is really about how you develop an understanding of the architecture of how relationships actually function.
That's the primary thing.
Monsters in Love, all of my books are about you read pieces.
You know this show, man.
You read parts of my book, you have to put it down, right?
Because the most important part of my book are the activities,
the practices.
It's not just reading.
There are parts of my book, you pick it up, you look at it,
you got to put it down because it works on you.
It's about, oh man, here are the ways I've moved around this.
And so Monsters in Love was really my take. So Quaking, so My Grandmother's Hands was really about self.
Quaking was about kind of like community.
This one is about couples, the more intimate
relationship, right?
But they work with some of the same
skills, some of the same practices, some of the
same pieces. And so
this was just my take on it.
And
yeah, it's not about just being in conflict.
It's about understanding how conflict actually
functions as opposed to all of
the things that we've been kind of conditioned to believe it is.
Can you tell the people what are the five anchors real quick?
Yeah.
Why they're so important.
Yeah.
So one of them.
So I said it earlier.
Maintain a clear sense of yourself while connected to an important other.
Right.
Tolerating pain for growth.
That's the one people I feel like people will disagree with.
That's right.
Why we got to go through pain to grow?
Pain shouldn't be love.
Right, right, right.
Right.
So, Envy, you built a real estate empire.
You're working on it, right?
Yes, sir.
Every day you got to do a
little bit of something you can't do everything you can't build a road you
can't say I'm gonna build a road and I got it right you you learn from the
mistakes from the oh I could have done I could have didn't write there is there
is there is something to be gleaned from even the difficult pieces, right? That's a painful process because it is the pain of growing up as a human being,
not the pain that, not just pain without a purpose, right?
And so relationships are really about how do I begin to have the, I'm going,
so it's the choice between what I call clean pain and dirty pain
dirty pain is the pain that you get by going around something right uh having a failure
relationship stealing your partner's choices um um spending money that you know you ain't got
and not telling your partner right all these different pieces stealing your partner's choices
that's dirty right and we all know the dirty piece.
Clean pain, and as adults, we don't get a choice between pain and no pain
when you're trying to grow up.
You get a choice between clean and dirty.
I know that when I'm doing this, it's going to be painful,
but it's the pain that can build capacity, not the pain that takes me around it.
Those are two different pains.
And so for those of us,
for those of the listeners saying,
well, pain, love shouldn't be pain.
Of course it is.
But it's a capacity building pain,
not one that keeps you immature, right?
And so those that say pain, you know,
in a marriage you shouldn't have pain
or there should be no pain
are people that want to stay immature right um um i and so so those are the two those
two anchors i think are the most important anchors like those like having a clear understanding that
this piece is about growing up like one of the things that I've realized and I just like over the last 10 years
I've realized with my wife
is that I realized
that in a good
long-term relationship,
the outcome of a good
long-term relationship
is that one of us
is going to bury the other one.
That's the outcome
of a good long-term relationship.
Yeah.
That our work with each other is we're growing ourselves up, growing each other up,
and the payoff at the end of that
is that one of us is gonna bury each other.
And that hopefully at the end of that,
our hearts are light enough to where we say, good job.
Wow. I'm glad you didn't
give the other three in because I want them to go by.
One more question.
What's the one biggest piece of advice
you have for couples who are going through
conflict, who are going through difficult times?
Slow down.
Slow down. Just breathe.
White body supremacy, and I haven't
talked about this, but this is the more
larger pieces. White body supremacy, i haven't talked about this but this is the more larger pieces white body supremacy one of the one the primary things of white body supremacy is urgency
urgency is what is how this whole thing especially with our bodies right that's how this whole thing
was founded right the the plantation what i tell people is that the plantation was actually a sanctioned rape factory.
Right. And we a lot of us come from from bodies, come from bodies, bodies, bodies, bodies, bodies who were for 200 years raped and used as product.
What makes us think that those bodies weren't conditioned around that trauma and what makes
us think that that stuff is not going to show up in our relationships right now those conundrums
those pieces those pieces around body sovereignty do i have by do i have sovereignty over my own
body or do you have sovereignty over my body that's the whole thing right now and so what i
tell people is one of the first things that i do when I'm working people is slow down hmm quiet it's all
right yes it feels like you're gonna your body's gonna be ripped apart yes it
yes you think that you're not gonna survive this slow down learn the things
that you need to learn. And you have time.
Wow.
Res Mimicum.
Res Mimicum, ladies and gentlemen.
We appreciate you doing it, brother. I appreciate you, brother.
I don't want to overload y'all, but go get Monsters in Love.
Go get The Quaking of America.
Go get My Grandmother's Hands.
And I haven't seen these albums.
Yeah.
So the Dismembered and Unarmed.
So I do an album with each book.
Okay.
Either I get with other musicians and I train them on the practices in the book,
and then they go and create songs about those things.
So that's Dismembered and Unarmed.
And then Feral Dreams is actually a – I kind of looked at it as –
remember Ballad in the Bullet by Malcolm X?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Just all of his speeches?
That's what Feral Dreams is about.. Just all of his speeches. That's what Pharrell Dreams is about.
It's all of my speeches.
Okay.
And so if you buy the album, you can download it on your phone,
or it's also a vinyl album.
So for people that love your culture quote, I'm sure that's on it.
That culture quote is everywhere.
Thank you, man.
Everywhere.
Thank you.
That's every place, man.
And it's one of those pieces, man, where I actually have a thing on my Web site where people can sign up for all of my quotes.
Three hundred sixty five days a year for free. You just you just get a quote on your phone.
And it's designed to help particularly black and brown and indigenous people understand that we're not defective.
Right. That we live in a culture where we've been taught and have been connected to
bodies that have been taught that we're defective.
And one of the things I want to do with my books and with my music,
with the music and everything is to say, we're not defective.
We don't need to start from that place. That's not, that's not what's happening.
So.
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rumor has it
rumor rumor has it
call out a name
or you gossiping
or you chatty patting
I am gossiping
this is the rumor report
I mean I guess
we on the Breakfast Club
this is where the tea spills
right?
yes on the Breakfast Club and This is where the tea spills, right? Right.
On the Breakfast Club.
And shout to DJ Nala Simone, who's in the building with us for a little bit.
Came through to say what's up.
Now, Kylie Jenner, she addresses the misconception that she's had so much surgery on her face.
Now, the 25-year-old.
Man, shut up.
We ain't got nothing else to talk about man She says listen
Listen
Man shut up
She says I think it's a big misconception about me
Is that I've had so much surgery on my face
And that I was some insecure person
And I really wasn't
Yes I love full lips and wanted full lips
But growing up I always
What she said, I was
always the most confident person in the room.
I was the girl performing for everyone.
I had my one lip insecurity thing, so I got lip filler.
One lip?
And it was the best thing I've ever done.
She says I had my one lip insecurity thing.
She got one lip?
So I got lip filler.
And it was the best thing I've ever done.
I don't regret it, but I always thought I was cute. There's people out here with one lip so i got lip filler and it was the best thing i've ever done i don't regret
it but i always thought i was cute there's people out here with one lip i know white people got real
thin lips but one lip so that so she's uh that's all she's got was uh lip filler okay i don't care
but kylie jenner's business is people being in our business so you know she's sharing her business
for people to be in it yes yes but i thought But I thought she had, like, her whole face changed.
Didn't it?
I think it's a misconception.
We watched it.
Yeah, like, the whole face.
We watched you on your whole family.
The whole face.
She's also a kid.
We've seen her since she was a kid.
That's what happens
when you grow up.
Kids' faces change.
Oh, that's her story?
You gonna stick with it?
No, I'm sure she probably
got something,
but kids' faces do change.
You have been watching her
since she's been a child, too, now.
You do realize that, right?
Yeah, that's her story.
Nobody's denying that.
But her whole face changed, bro. Yeah, because we saw her, but you saw her since she was a a child too now you do realize that right that's just nobody's denying that but her whole face changed bro yeah because we saw a different person but you saw her since she was a kid all right okay like i'm saying though like people do go through puberty and
things change like you literally saw her since she was a child and i'm not saying she didn't
get no surgery i'm just saying you did see her since she was a kid he might he has probably
lip filler coming out on college i don't even got nothing to say to that. But maybe she, I don't think necessarily the low self-esteem has anything to do with the changes.
You wanted the changes because you like, you're different.
You know, you wanted something more exaggerated.
That don't got nothing to do with your low self-esteem.
Oh, y'all do care about this story.
I didn't know.
No.
We're just reporting.
You don't want us defending it.
First of all, you'd be insecure if you had one lip too.
Stop judging her. Stop judging her. No, for real. I don't like how you're so judgment be insecure if you had one lip, too. Stop judging her.
No, for real.
I don't like how you're so judgmental about that young lady just now.
I'm not judging her.
She got one lip.
Okay.
If you got one lip, you'd want more than one lip.
Okay, now Glorilla is being sued by a New Orleans rap group over the song Tomorrow.
Now, they're saying that she sampled the song Tomorrow and they didn't get clearance.
So, let's play Tomorrow first.
Classic.
They snap. Cardi and Glorilla snap on this. Pop up. the song tomorrow and they didn't get clearance so let's play tomorrow first classic
not now this is how today just sent my nigga five attachments now this is the
song is called Street of the West Bank and they're saying that it was sample
without permission I hear it.
What year was this recorded?
1900 and what?
1994.
That's what I'm saying.
You can hit it to the same piano.
Hey, man.
Somebody got some splaining to do.
Just to pay, you know, give them their credit.
That's all.
All right.
Now, we reported this story earlier and I want to say it in depth.
So we reported earlier that Young Miami
Confirms that she split from Diddy
Give me my fan
Oh lord
You telling this story again
You gotta get the fan together
Other way
Other way
Other way
Give me the fan
Come on man
Act like you a damn lady for once
Okay there you go.
There we go.
All right.
There you go.
So Young Miami, let me do it right.
Young Miami girl, she talks about her split from Diddy.
She says, that's not my man.
She put this comment out when she was doing her interview.
She said, I want everything.
I want to be an actor.
I want to be an artist.
Tell them, girl.
And an entrepreneur. I love it. It's just my work ethic that's going to be an actor. I want to be an artist. Tell them, girl. And an entrepreneur.
I love it.
It's just my work ethic that's going to determine my success.
Get what you deserve, young Miami.
I never expected to be an artist.
That's right.
I will say that I manifested being famous.
That's right, young Miami.
I always thought maybe I'd be somebody's baby mama or wife, girlfriend, or something like that.
Or just an influencer.
Goals.
Goals.
A lot of people don't understand it.
And they say it takes me being, like, illiterate or not being able to talk properly.
I understand you.
I always think about it.
I'll be like, I'm going to do it.
But I never follow through.
I can't disguise my voice even if I wanted to.
You don't need to, boo.
Be you.
You are an original.
God made you who he made you to be or who she made you to be.
Okay, you are a one-on-one, young Miami.
And being young Miami has got you this far. Okay? You you deserve it all because every day the sun don't shine but that's why we
love them all that's right and we're talking about diddy we still friends we still good friends
but we're single and that's not my man that's right we had our own situation that's right i'm
not gonna put a title on it he touched my. We were effing with each other hard.
Hard.
We were together every day at one point.
Talk to him.
He supported me.
I supported him.
There you go.
I supported him.
I love it.
I love it.
I'll let the internet call it whatever they want to call it.
That's right.
You won, Young Miami.
You won.
You won.
You won.
Drop a little kooz bomb for Young Miami.
You go ahead, Carisha. You do you Young Miami. You won, you won, you won. Drop a little Kuzma for Young Miami. You go ahead, Carisha.
You do you, boo.
And lastly, I got to talk about this girl.
The Daily Show?
I heard about it.
The week of May 15th?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I heard about this.
Guess who hosted?
I heard about this.
Guess who hosted? Brad, can you guess who hosted? No, you can't guess. Nala, can you guess who hosted? I heard about this. Guess who hosted?
Brad, can you guess who hosted?
No, you can't guess.
Nala, can you guess who hosted?
No idea.
I'm talking about the girl with the big hips.
Oh, come on now.
The big hips.
You in here giving compliments.
The girl with the big hips.
You in here noticing things.
Noticing it.
What?
With the slim waist.
Okay.
Oh, tell me more.
What is going on right now?
Tell me more, Envy.
Flattery will get you everywhere.
Tell me more.
Charlotte McGay, drop a bomb for him.
Oh, what?
Yo.
You said the girl.
You said the girl.
Charlotte McGay is going to be hosting the Daily Show.
Why are you laughing?
You don't know what I identify as.
You see, that's your problem.
That's right.
I don't respect people in 2023.
You don't know what I identify as
What do you identify
You identify
Say it
Whatever I want
Whatever he wants
I said the girl with the big hips
And slim
With the J down
The big thick
Whatever you heard what I said
The week of May 15th
Charlamagne Tha God
Drop a bomb for him
Yes
I am looking forward
To see who I piss off that week
When I host the daily show
I need all listeners Of the Breakfast Club And Brilliant Idiots who are in the NYC area
to pull up and get tickets to The Daily Show for that week.
If you plan on watching me to tell me I suck, I appreciate that, too.
That's right.
So you can tune in again the week of May 15th.
It airs 11 p.m. Eastern time on Comedy Central.
So again, drop a bomb for Charlamagne Tha God.
And all one-lit people are welcome.
Just shut up, man.
Shut up.
All right.
Well, that is your rumor report.
Now, when we come back, we got the People's Choice Mix.
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