The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: What Is The Pettiest Thing You’ve Ever Done? Elliott Connie Interview, Donkey Of The Day and more!

Episode Date: March 21, 2023

Today we are joined by psychotherapist Elliott Connie to discuss Solution Focused Brief Therapy, Parental Discipline, Conversation, Honesty and more! In addition to that, we open up the phone lines to ask our listeners "What Is The Pettiest Thing You’ve Ever Done?".  Finally, we find out why Charlamagne gives Donkey Of The Day to a man who was just released from prison.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Good morning, USA! It's Tuesday, man. Just got to scratch some things out. Crack some things. You know, before you get the day started. What's happening? How y'all feeling? It's good. It's Tuesday. It's Tuesday. See, this is what I mean.

You see, you wish you had that four-day work week now, don't you? Yep. Wish you was just getting here. Yep. You know what I mean? Speaking of four-day work week, that Larsa Pittman clip went everywhere yesterday. Y'all actually did the math. 33,000 times.

I didn't get the exact number. I just knew it was over 30,000. But now I know she lying. Of course. There were so many people commenting, especially women. I didn't get the exact number. I just knew it was over 30,000. But now I know she lying. It was so many people commenting, especially women. Women know their bodies. Women was like, what about periods? Women was like, what about after pregnancies? You know, women was like, so you made every road trip?

Like, it's impossible. Like, this is impossible to have sex four times a day. She was capping. I called her. I said, did you see the clip we were talking about yesterday? She said, yeah, you didn't hold me down. I said, I can't protect your vagina. I don't know nothing about that. She's still holding on to that?

She's still holding it down. Come on, stop, Larsa. Stop. Four times a day, every day, for 23 years. She'd be in the hospital right now. Come on, stop. That clip of us talking about it yesterday made me exhausted just watching it. People was like, so no sickness?

You didn't have the flu? You didn't have a cold? Like, nothing? Come on, stop. Jesus. Stop. All right. shit made me exhausted just watching it people was like so no sickness you didn't have the flu you didn't have a cold like nothing come on stop jesus stop all right well how you feeling jason lee you was out last night or you chill uh you know what i left here yesterday and went to some bar and fell asleep not at the bar yeah you fell asleep at the bar yeah didn't have one drink i just tied just tired and then i was up all night because i took a nap you just fell asleep at a random bar yeah my friends i just said order whatever i want and because I took a nap. You just fell asleep at a random bar in New York City? Yeah, my friends. I just said, order whatever I want, and I just took a nap. Hold on.

So that picture you posted on Instagram of you sleeping was at a bar? Yeah. That's a nice bar. I thought it was a hotel room. I thought it was a rooftop situation. Oh, okay, okay. All right. You sound like you had a good time.

Yeah, right? Well, Elliot Connie will be joining us this morning. Elliot is one of the most culturally competent therapists you're going to ever meet in your life. And he focuses on solution, what is it called? Solution-focused brief therapy. Okay. Yes. He's going to break that down, what all that means.

That's right. This morning, all right? And then we got front page news. Teslin Figaro will be joining us. We got a lot to talk about. LA, it seems like they're shutting the schools down. We'll let you know why. And John Moran, is he coming back?

We'll tell you when. So don't move. We'll get to it why. And John Moran, is he coming back? We'll tell you when. So don't move. We'll get to it next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.

We got our co-host Jason Lee hanging out with us. And let's get in some front page news. We have Teslin Figaro here. The Hood Whisperer. Now, let's start off with John Moran. It looks like John Moran is going to return to the Grizzlies, hopefully this Wednesday. He was with the team last night as they played Mavericks last night. And he was with the team.

He didn't play. He was in street clothes. But it looks like he will be back tomorrow. Now, what's going on with Trump? We got any updates with Trump? Yes, we do. Good morning, Breakfast Clubbers. I want to remind you again to do your own independent research because obviously this is a lot of information, guys, and we can only get in so much information.

So let's do a quick update on former President Donald Trump. Today is Tuesday. And as we discussed yesterday, Donald Trump predicted that he would be arrested today. So today we're going to find out. But since the grand jury will not meet until Wednesday, it is highly unlikely. And remember, Charlamagne, you mentioned that on yesterday. You said I doubt it's going to be today. So we'll see if they move forward today or Wednesday. social media campaign style ad and it ends with always remember they are coming after me because i am fighting for you so again like we discussed on yesterday this is an advantage uh for president trump a former president trump my apologies uh throwing that out there he's been able to raise money to galvanize his base and pretty much you know turn the world upside down and have us talking about trump so it's working i don't think trump is getting arrested today in fact i'm not sure he's getting indicted in nyc at all to be honest with you remember in endgame when thanos got hit in the chest by thor's thornbreaker and he said you should have went for

the head this ain't a headshot at all like everybody's saying this is a weak case and it's just gonna make him stronger because it looks like more of a witch hunt and it looks like the woke is attacking him again and yet in the optics of alvin bragg being black, he's going to use that to his advantage, too. Trump's going to use that to his advantage. They're preparing New York City just in case. I know they put barricades all around Trump Hotel and also downtown where the courts are. So they're preparing just in case. I think Trump did this on purpose.

He stirred up them waters just to keep himself in the news, just to keep the conversation going. Why do you think Trump's message connects deeper with his audience than like Biden's does with his? Because America loves gangsters. Yeah, that's right. Or the perception of gangsters.

And they're doing a ride out today from Long Island. So I guess all the MAGA people, they're going to get in their cars and it's probably

going to be a long line. Wait, they're coming out here? Yeah, to the city. They're going to ride them. For real? Yeah.

And once again, when somebody uses the threat of violence to avoid prosecution, we're in a dysfunctional society, a dysfunctional government. Now, what's going on with Florida governor now? Yeah, absolutely. You guys are right. And just as a piggyback on that, they argue that campaign that they're using Alvin Bragg's photo in that. And, you know, I told you guys years ago when I came to the Breakfast Club that Trump is absolutely the sugar night of politics.

But after being pressured for several days by Trump allies, in other words, they told them pick a side or step aside, Governor Ron DeSantis finally broke his silence about Trump's potential indictment. And honey, his response was nice, nasty. He did not hold back on the shade. Take a listen. I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair. I just, I can't speak to that. But what I can speak to is that if you have a prosecutor who is ignoring crimes happening every single day in his jurisdiction, and he chooses to go back many, many years ago to try to use something about porn star hush money payments, that's an example of pursuing a political agenda and weaponizing the office.

That was shady. It was. And you know he didn't have to say that, but he said it anyway. And then Trump came back and said, well, in paraphrasing, I won't read everything he said, but he said, you'll you'll realize what this is like basically once you become more well known so he threw some shade back and then put up a picture saying that the santas might face allegations from uh underage girls or possibly a man for them to hate for them to hate gay people they throw in the shade just like the girls do man son you got to move that over to the rumor report jason and let us know what's happening with and what's and taz what's going

on with these la schools what's happening in la today yes um absolutely uh this was really important i wanted to make sure that folks know uh that after almost a year negotiation education workers uh united uh voted to approve a three-day strike that starts today and is expected to last until Wednesday. Now, thousands of members from cafeteria workers to bus drivers working in the Los Angeles United School District per usual. They're demanding more equitable wage increases, more full time work, respect, respectful treatment and increased staffing. And so my did you know fact on this story is the longest teacher strike to date was an eight month strike in 1987 in Homer, Illinois. And before we close the front page news, I want to just double back on something I said yesterday. A lot of people said, are you telling me I can run when I mentioned you could run for president United States with a felon being a felon? And somebody said, I can't believe that's true

so I want to double down on that again yes you can run for president of the United States even if you are a convicted felon now you may have a hard time getting a job or a place to live you know and all the basic necessities but you can run for the highest office in the land and a quick google search can confirm that fact that was your front page news

okay thank you no requirements to be president huh honestly I have a question did Trump and Melania ever get confirm that fact. That was your front page news. Okay, thank you. Well, ain't no requirements to be president, huh? No. Honestly. I have a question. Did Trump and Melania ever get divorced? Did they get divorced? I don't know. I don't think so. No, they're still married. I never heard this. She looked like she wanted

to get divorced. Yeah, she wasn't holding his hand and she was dodging him. I've never seen them together anymore. Like, you know, when was the last time y'all seen her? She probably exhausted. We really didn't see it when he was running i mean when he was actually in office remember she was real she wasn't excited at all about uh the presidency remember it took her a while to even move um to dc they probably should have had sex four times a day hilarious ain't nobody's trying to have donald trump on him four times a day okay all right thank you tez get it off your chest.

800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051. Get it off your chest. Call us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlamagne. Izzy, what up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.

We can get on the phone right now. We can tell you what it is. Are we live? Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Ray B from the Campbell's Soup City. What is Campbell's Soup City? You said this yesterday and you still ain't told me what it is. This is for the ones in the hospital. Great day for everybody that's able to walk around. That's right. What is Soup City, sir?

What city is that? That's Campbell, Ohio. The other side of Youngstown. Okay, okay, okay. Get it off your chest, bro. Man, I'm still over here, like, stuck on that Trump thing. Because if it was a regular Joe Smoe, man, we'd have been in prison a long time ago, still waiting to get our date to see how much more time we're going to get.

It wasn't a regular Joe Smoe. It was a privileged white man who happens to be the former president of the United States of America, sir. Right. And we got all that money. That's just letting everybody know that when you got a lot of money and you know how to use it, it's occasion, you can get away with that type of stuff. I don't even know if it's about money as much as it's about power and privilege because, you know, they don't want to set the precedent of locking up that kind of white man. Because, you know, you set the precedent of locking up that kind of white man,

then you got to follow suit locking up many more. They don't want that to become a pattern. Hello, who's this? This is Talia. Hey, Talia. Good morning. Get it off your chest, mama. Good morning.

I pretty much just wanted to say how blessed i am and to see a message to other young people in my generation um to just stop running to drama a month ago um i was in my bed and i tried to run to go help a cousin that got involved in a fight and i ended up being shot and i have a bullet this part of my spinal cord. It broke my pelvic bone and shrunk a nerve in my left leg. So I'm just blessed to be here. And again, I just want to be a message to other people to just, if you're not in drama, leave it alone. It has nothing to do with you.

Just stay home, be productive, get closer to God, and just live life. Life is too short. Absolutely. I'm so sorry that happened to you. Glad you're okay. Where you from, Mama? I'm from West Palm Beach

I listen to you guys all the time I want things from your radio station Like seven times You sound so positive and so upbeat Despite the circumstances Are you able to walk? Yeah I'm able to walk My left leg is because it hit me on my left side

So the left leg where it shuts the nerve at Like if I'm sitting down in the chair I can't lift my left leg is because it hit me on my left side. So the left leg where it struck the nerve at. Like if I'm sitting down in the chair, I can't lift my left leg up to my chest. When I'm taking a shower, getting in and out of the car, I have to like lift it up. So right now I have to do physical therapy twice a week. And it's expensive. And it's just a lot of things that it happened at an actual home. So the state attorney is kind of trying to say that it might be a standard ground law, even though I've been a victim of it. Me and my family have been the ones coming out of pocket for this stuff, but it's just very stressful.

We're going to claim that you're going to walk fully and get back to a better house. I'm sending you love and prayers for sure. Amen. God is good. All the time. God is great. Chick-fil-A is good. Get it off your chest.

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I just wanted to say good morning to everybody. I'm a trucker. I just wanted to say everybody be safe. You know, drive morning to everybody. I'm a trucker. I just wanted to say everybody be safe. You know, drive safe. Just stay on the road. Stay in your lane. And everybody will be okay. That's it. Alright, you in your truck now? Yes, sir.

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All right, y'all. First off, I just want to say I love y'all. Y'all are amazing. I listen to y'all every morning. And I am an educator, activist, spoken word poet. And I wanted to put a quick poem for y'all. Go ahead. Go.

All right. So this is a one-minute piece. It's called Are You Black Black? My response to the men who take me out, tell me I'm pretty, and ask if I am just black. Well, I'm black mixed with black, so I guess that made me black black. Like, Afro-American, like, my ancestry be slayed black. Like, they slayed all day in pink cotton. You could wear that tacky shirt on your back black.

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would my arresting be safe well we still waiting on reparations so i hope you're paying for this date okay okay that's dope where can people find me that's. I appreciate y'all so much. So my Instagram is at LyricalFacePoetry. LyricalFace, L-Y-R-I-C-A-L-S-A-I-C-H. Poetry, P-O-E-T-R-Y. And you can find me on all streaming platforms, YouTube, Facebook, all of that at LyricalFacePoetry. Your LyricalFace ass. I appreciate you so much. Thank you, y'all. She had to think if that at Lyrical Face. Your Lyrical Face ass. I appreciate you so much. Thank you, y'all.

She had to think if that was an insult or not. She didn't know if it was an insult or not. You know what I'm saying? Hello, who's this? Gentlemen, this is Chalice, Goose Creek. Goose Creek, South Carolina. What's happening? Hey, Chalice, Chalice.

Hey, Chalice, man, I got a quick question, man. When are we going to have Chuck T on there, man? My guy, Chuck T? He's doing big things out here, man, for the Carolinas, man. That's a good question. That's my guy, DJ Chuck T, man. Chuck, my man, Chuck used to, when I was in between jobs, I used to go and buy mixtapes in bulk from DJ Chuck T.

That's how I used to make a little change on the side, man, selling those mixtapes. He's doing big things out here with the NBA and just putting on the Carolina rappers, man. Yeah, he do the Hornets night. He do the Charlotte Hornets night. That's my guy, man. That's my brother for life. Love Chuck.

Yeah, man. I'd love to hear him on the show one time. Anytime. All Chuck got to do is holler. Chuck is the reason we had the baby up here Back in the day When he came And did his first interview here Yeah he put me On a female rapper

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800-585-1051 If you need to vent You can hit us up Now JC Lee we got rumors on the way What we talking about Yeah well apparently Tamar Braxton and Candy Burr Heard the show yesterday because uh the gloves are off and

they're fighting again more again jesus christ all right we'll get into that next don't move it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we got our co-host jason lee with us let's get right to the rumors i've mastered the tea thing the only place i wanted to come and talk to that was here because We are The Breakfast Club. We got our co-host Jason Lee with us. Let's get right to the rumors. I've mastered the tea thing. The only place I wanted to come and talk to you about was here because I really feel like everybody in the culture pays attention to y'all. But I knew I could talk my... Talk to me.

This is The Rumor Report on The Breakfast Club. So first I want to mention Triple X, Tentacion. He was murdered back in 2018. The three people found guilty of first-degree murder just went down yesterday in Florida. So just wanted to get that out of the way. No surprises there. It was on video. And they deserve every single second of that time.

And it's sad because they're young brothers too. And I'm sure they're going to learn. It's just that they're going to have to learn in prison. Yeah, it was really sad. All right, so let's go over to what're going to learn. It's just that they're going to have to learn in prison. Yeah. Yeah, it was really sad. All right, so let's get over to what's going on in Atlanta. The gloves are off again. I love that sound effect.

So apparently Tamar Braxton and Candy Burris were watching the show yesterday or listening in and heard us talk about what was happening in the world of chaos that they're creating. Now, for those of you that missed the show yesterday, Tamar Braxton was recently on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen and she talked about being accosted by a Real Housewife of Atlanta and her husband and the fans found out that it was Candy Burst. Well, yesterday when we talked about it,

the fans went crazy and Tamar went live on social media to talk about what happened and this is what she said. Weeks go by, four or five weeks go by, and we all have a concert together. And I see Kandi in the hallway. And I'm like, hey boo, and I give her a hug, you know, whatever. And she just look at me and she's like, I ain't f***ing with you.

I'm like, what happened? She's like, oh, well, you said that s*** you said about Carlos King was bad. Now, people were saying that Tamar was lying and that this never happened. And so Tamar continued to explain the conversation between her and Kandi. I didn't mean no harm. You know, I wasn't trying to, you know, go against you or nothing like that. And she was like, nah, nah, nah, nah. You said, you said, you said.

And I'm like, sis, listen, if I offended you, I am so sorry. And plus, I sent her a DM, and I said, I sent you a DM, you know, when your fans was coming to my page. Nah, nah, nah, but you said, and you did, and did, and did, and did you double damn and put it in your story. I said, listen, Candy, I'm not trying to go there with you. Yesterday, I said that Candy Burris was allegedly a bully. You both said that you couldn't see it. Now, I'm telling you, this is very interesting because this is what happens when people don't like being called out. When you shake the cereal box and all the roaches fall out.

I'm not calling black women roaches. I'm just saying that I used to live in the hood and we had roaches in our cereal. When you shake the cereal box like Tamar did, the roaches fall out. I'm not calling black women roaches. I'm just saying that I used to live in the hood and we had roaches in our cereal. When you shake the cereal box like Tamar did, the roaches fall out. And Kandi Burr's did not like that, so she went straight to social media to gaslight the fans, and this is what she said.

The only thing I would say right now is, you know, simply that that's not true. My husband never said nothing to her. He did not threaten her or none of that. So that's why I was like, I don't even want to address that on on amazon live she and i did have words but he did so that's why i was like yeah some people like to twist things a little bit but we can talk about it later on a different platform or not well let's speak about on this platform candy because you're playing twister let's talk

about receipts because here's a receipt right here. What's that? This is a receipt from Tamar, because after she called her a victim, Tamar said, I am the victim. When your man steps to a woman, sounds like an abused woman to me. See nothing wrong with that. I hope he's not beating your ass. I pray for your healing.

Jesus Christ. She also then posted this receipt, and this is a receipt of her standing there taking a picture with a fan while her man is back there checking Todd, allegedly. And she posted that that conversation happened. And then, you know, fans were still doubting Tamar. What do they call checking based off a picture? You just see them talking. They're having a conversation.

Oh, okay. How do we know that's any hostile conversation? We don't. And this is what? This is Tamar's husband. For Tamar's husband for tamar's boyfriend this white man to walk up on a black man have a conversation there was a lot of courage there so she posted this receipt okay you might have been asking what can i do for the black lives

matter no he wasn't asking that he wasn't asking that can he donate some money he said what he said this is what he said what do you say he said for the record yes i did have a conversation with todd about what he said to tamar he immediately seemed embarrassed about it apologized and wanted to make amends for saying quote you know what it is he tried to rationalize why he about what he said to Tamar. He immediately seemed embarrassed about it, apologized and wanted to make amends for saying, quote, you know what it is. He tried to rationalize why he said what he said, but I stopped him and said it should have never happened. I then asked him to clear it up with Tamar

and apologize in person. Now, I'm not mad at any man, you know, approaching another man on behalf of their woman. But Todd, you let that white man check you? He probably thought he was still producing the show. You know, that's how they met. He was a producer on the show and then they fell in love or whatever, and now he's caught up in the storyline.

But, you know, maybe he wants a peach. I don't know. But what I do know is that Candy, and this is where celebrities have a problem with me, I'm a likable person. Hollywood Unlocked is not a likable platform all the time. I can like you. Hollywood Unlocked can think you're corny. Hollywood Unlocked can love you, and I can think you're corny.

You're Hollywood Unlocked, Jason. No. He's trying to confuse me. He's trying to confuse me. How dare you? That is your media platform. Speaking of confusion, she continued playing Twister yesterday, and Kandi had this to say about me in Hollywood Unlocked. That particular person, he had, like, been dogging me on his blog.

Like, he had said a lot of negative things. I'm sure you got seen it, because some of that stuff was on different blogs or whatever I guess other people had picked it up. This is a while ago and So if somebody had dogged you, would you want to interview for their page? No Jason Lee likes you candy. I said that yesterday. I said that in every interview. I still like you. I really do I'm a big fan. I'm going to play Who Should You Run To when I get here. But let me tell you

who you should run to. You should run to Elliot. Dr. Elliot can help you with some psychotherapy because at this point you're delusional. Hollywood Unlocked thinks you're corny.

Your storyline is tired. Your man thinks he's a woman out there fighting with Tamar Braxton. And now guess what? I'm going to unbreak your heart. Nobody cares. And I'm not going to come

to see your show on April 1st because her and Tamar are going to be in concert together, which is crazy, which I don't know if this is for a show or not. But what I do know is, Candy, you're always welcome to Hollywood Unlocked even though you're not going to come because T.I. canceled your appointment last time and he'll probably cancel it again. So what do you say?

You're basically saying that, you know, artists, you should be allowed to be critical of people and they can still want to sit down and have a conversation. The same conversation we're having about you in the white house you should be able to criticize people and still break bread but guess what we have a relationship with every celebrity some just choose to participate or not we're going to still continue to talk about candy's tired uh storylines and then i may pull up an old lady gang and get whatever they serving on the menu you are out of your damn mind if you talk crazy about candy and they go eat at

our restaurant bites are good though you uber east your damn mind if you talk crazy about candy and then go eat at her restaurant. Now, salmon bites are good, though. You Uber Eats, they ain't gonna know it's him. You ain't gonna talk crazy about me coming to my restaurant. Uber Eats, they gonna know it's him. He's Uber Eats. Oh, he said you were gonna

go there and eat. No, I'm gonna go pull up. Listen, I'm gonna support her as an entrepreneur. I thought you were smarter than that, Jason. You're gonna get a little root put on you.

Or I'm gonna buy the restaurant and bulldoze the hell out of it. I like that. Now Jason's talking my language. Get some old lady roots put on you. But you're gonna understand if candy don't wanna sit down. Yeah, of course. Well, let me ask you a question. We talked about the back and forth. I like that. Now Jason's talking my language. You're going to get some old lady roots put on you. But you can understand if Candy don't want to sit down. Yeah, of course. Let me ask you a question. We talked about the back and forth. I'm sorry.

I know we got to go, but where did it start? Why are they beefing? What was the problem? Why are they going back? I don't know, but Jason made that sound good. I enjoyed that moment. I never know. Why were they beefing? I enjoyed that scene. Why did she step to her? What was the problem in the first place? I don't know, but I'm ready to see a fight go down. I don't want to see them fight. We don't even know why they fight.

I don't even think they know why they fight. We got the fighter bells again? I don't know, but I'm ready to see a fight go down. I don't want to see them fight. We don't even know why they fight. I don't even think they know why they fight. We got the fighter bells again? I wouldn't mind seeing Todd and the white dude fight, but I don't want to see the women fight. I can't wait to see Todd with a peach. You are crazy. You are crazy. But who do you think will win? What you mean?

We fight. Todd. Todd, man. What you mean? Talk about Tamar and Candy. That's what I was talking about. I don't want to see that. I don't want to see that. Y'all are crazy. I don't want to see that. All right.

All right. Well, thank you for that rumor report, Jace Lee. So messy. But I loved it. I enjoyed it. Me too. Good morning to you. By the way, I thought I was the only one with a new intro up here.

Y'all got intros for everybody else? I don't feel as special as I did yesterday. All right. Jess Hilarious, you. Portia had one. Portia had one too. That's all good. Nene too. I think Nene had one. Yeah, Nene did. Taylor just been flexing her creative muscle. That's all. All right, Jess Hilarious, you. Portia had one. Portia had one, too. Nene, too.

I think Nene had one. Yeah, Nene did. Taylor's just been flexing her creative muscle. That's all. All right. When we come back, we got front page news. Teslin Figueroa will be joining us. We'll break some things down.

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Good morning, Tez. Good morning, everybody. Now, where do you want to start? The four guilty of conspiracy? Break that story down for us. Yes, four people associated with the far-right anti-government extremist group known as the Oath Keepers were convicted on Monday of conspiracy to obstruct Congress and obstruction of Congress stemming from the attack on the U.S. Capitol. Both of these charges can carry a sentence of up to 20 years behind bars.

And now, as so far, the DOJ says that at least 1,000 Trump supporters have been arrested for the January 6th Capitol riot. Now, I do, again, want to remind people this particular story, guys, look it up because there's a lot of information on this one that I couldn't get in on who was charged and why and their husbands and baby daddies and all it's a lot with this story so I want to have you guys look it up but I remember Charlemagne and Envy you talked about several times like when are people going to go to jail and so I just wanted to remind people that there have been over a thousand people who have been charged now convicted and going to jail that's another story but uh there's some movement

on that it's been quite it's been quite a few that's been convicted and going to jail too though now we also got to talk about this uh vermont high school basketball team girls team they're forfeiting a tournament because they don't want to play against a transgender player yes as of 2022 the the Vermont private schools are expected to follow the state's anti-discrimination rules if they want to get state funding. In other words, if you want to get the bag, you have to do what we say. But earlier this year, Mid-Vermont Christian School and another religious affiliated school told the Vermont Board of Education that they wanted to reserve their right not to follow all of the anti-discrimination rules due to their religious

belief. Well, it appears that they tried to exercise that right and decided in February not to play in a tournament because they refused to play against a team with a transgender player. Now, the head of school, Vicki Fogg, explained that the reason for the forfeit was that her school did not think it was fair to have a girls team play against an opponent with a biological male because it jeopardized the fairness of the game and safety of the players. Since then, the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in Activities Committee, the Activity Standards Committee, and the VPA executive council made a decision that the team violated the policies and they are now banned for all future activities and tournaments moving forward so they can't play anything terminates not in a tournament or activity

anything because they violated that policy that's not fair because that sounds like common sense to me like we've all seen uh jo, man. We've seen Grandma Ma. Well, not only that. I'm just saying, we've seen that. Well, not only that. That person was probably out there averaging 30 and 20 against them women, man. Come on, man. Remember that swimmer?

He was a man, and then he transitioned to a woman. And when he was swimming as a man, he was, like, number 80th. Yes. And then when he transitioned to a woman, he was number one. That's what I'm not pointing. Whoever they were playing against, again i gotta see the stats if this person is averaging 55 points 50 17 rebounds 22 blocks i'm not playing against him either that's not fair yeah my concern is you know even the religious beliefs you know them saying up front you know

hey we don't mind following your policy but we're a private school and it's a Christian school. It's a Christian high school. So it's really interesting to see, you know, how I guess they're not getting any leeway based upon, you know, their own individual right, you know, based on their religious beliefs. And they attach that again to, okay, if you don't do what we say, you won't get funding.

And so this is just a real interesting story. And I think I should look it up and look more into it. Jason Lee, what do you think? I knew they were going to ask the resident gay his opinion. He would be surprised. I actually agree with you. I just I don't think it's fair. I mean, can you imagine like when you look at what happened with DeMar Hamlin, if you put a biological woman on the field and she was he was to get hit, there could be like some real serious.

I mean, I don't know. People are going to be mad because they say, oh, you should say equality. I'm all for equality. But be some real serious... I don't know. People are going to be mad because they're going to say, oh, you should say equality. I'm all for equality, but in this instance, I just don't know that. That's not equality when somebody has a biological advantage

against you. You know what I mean? I don't dig it. I don't think it's fair, but I've always said, you've heard me on record say this, you should put one transgender woman on every Wba team i think

that put kaylin out there she's like the greatest athlete ever right she get washed now this generation of wnba player the asian wilsons and all them they'll wash kaylin jenna but you should have you if you want to make the wnba even more exciting because i like the fundamental basketball the wnba plays but if you really want to make it more exciting, put one transgender woman on each team. Can you please not use Jawanaman as a reference, though? Because that's what made me think of Caitlyn. But I'm just talking about how ridiculous it looked

when this person with a biological advantage was out there playing against women. That movie showed us what could go down. You know? I'm not mad at them. I do wish that this team wasn't hiding behind religion, though, Tez. Like, even with the religious rule, religious rule just stay straight up no it's just not fair what they did they said in the statement and yeah they said in the statement that no this is this is not fair based on you know having a uh a lady ladies play against a biological uh man i

was just pointing to the fact that when they changed this policy they they put it on the table earlier last year saying, we're telling you now we're not going to be in line with everything on this discrimination policy they had in place. So they're playing both angles on this. Wait, playing both angles. Hilarious. Shout out to y'all having Laverne Cox up here. I saw the trans Barbie back here too. Laverne, Jason put that play together. I was trying to get the stats, but I can't find the stats.

I need to see the stats. That's what I need. I need to see how much this person was averaging on that team. Playing both sides. It's too early in the morning for that. What do you think, Taz? Taz, what do you think, Taz? Well, you know, I think, again, I'm always going to look at the politics side of it.

And I think when we talked we remember last week we talked about separation of church and state um we talked about you know being able to uh have the right to do something and the fact that they said last year that this is not in line with our beliefs i'm leaning more towards that i hear what you guys are saying but you know i'm always looking at looking at it from a legal lens or a political lens and i think they made that clear last year so they obviously they could have had an opportunity as well not to accept the money you know you could always not accept the money and do whatever you want to do so if you can look at it from from that way as well that's true so there's two different sides to this no pun intended pause

hilarious all right not did you say pause she did say what's wrong with you you didn't say pause oh y'all don't know tennessee if y'all didn't tell you breakfast club didn't say pause. You've been hanging out with Breakfast Club too long. Right, I was about to say. Y'all don't know Taz then. If y'all didn't tell you, Breakfast Club ain't got nothing to do with the Hood Whisperer. Okay? That's Tazlyn Figueroa. I'm trying to let him warm up to me, Charlamagne. I don't know. Hollywood a lot just followed you.

Hilarious. Make sure y'all subscribe to the Scraped Shot No Chaser podcast with Tazlyn Figueroa on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network, man. Thank you so much, Tez. No problem, peace. We'll see you tomorrow. And Tez is going to be with us, too, in Atlanta on April 22nd at Pullman Yards for the first ever Black Effect Podcast Festival. She's going to be on the Business and Podcasting panel and the Women in Podcasting panel.

So make sure you go to Eventbrite and get your tickets. When is that again? April 22nd in Atlanta at Pullman Yards. That's right. All right. Well, thank you, Tez, again. And when we come back elliot connie will be joining us he has a new book uh the solution focus brief therapy yes therapy one of the most culturally competent psychotherapists you're gonna ever meet man and we're gonna chop it up with him when we come back

so don't move it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club because i think we're told you respect your parents no matter what they can say whatever they want they can do whatever they want but yeah i think that i don't agree with that yeah well i 100 was raised that way like you respect your parents doesn't matter what you do but i was in such a bad place i was like i'm pretty sure that i'm not supposed to die behind that rule like i'm pretty sure i'm not supposed to suicide out of here just because i'm not supposed to talk back to my father so i got back i got to a place where it's like i gotta set this boundary or else i wonder if it's it's the term rules for an adult you know i mean because as an adult as an you know you set the rules now

when your child because no matter how old you are you still he still looks at you i'm sure as his child growing up is the setting of rules i think that's an interesting point like if i said something other than rules but i think to's an interesting point like if i said something other than rules but i think to your point but if you if you look at your child you wouldn't take anywhere boundary rule request it wouldn't really matter like i was raised in that you know 1980s 1990s where black child is to be seen and not heard and all that stuff i don't think it would matter but i also agree with you i think part of the issue in today's world is not respecting authority i'm talking is not respecting authority.

I'm talking about not respecting abusers. I'm talking about not allowing abusers to have free reign to your life. I do think we have to learn to respect authority. I think there's a lot of reasons contributing to why kids don't do that. You told me the other day that you feel like kids should disrespect their parents. I think parents should expect. And in the context of our conversation give me go ahead let me let me jason let me let me put that in context my mother would say ellie go do the dishes and i would be like why didn't you ask one of them and that would get me popped you know that would get you actually pop and i told you so yeah yeah but if you're teaching your child to be confident to be strong to value their voice they should ask those kinds of questions

and it allows you to parent them. But we shouldn't translate that as disrespect. They're just practicing. That's not disrespect. They're practicing their voice. That was in our era. In the 1900s. That was disrespect to me.

I would never think to talk back. I would never even think to talk to my parents the way my kids talk to me. As Ellie said, it's not disrespect. It's just them being like asking valid questions. I don't agree with you with that, Ellie, because and this is gonna sound crazy all right here we go i got six kids so if i tell one of my kids to do something i expect it to be done i'm not gonna do it with something that's gonna be detrimental to their health something that's gonna hurt them it's part of what everybody needs to do to be in this household i agree with you meaning if if dad's

chores or dad's way is to make the money pay the bills do this that and the other and i ask you to shovel the snow don't ask me why don't say well why didn't you ask this this this you know sibling why did you ask this one no because i asked you to do it but you could explain it to them just the way you explained it just now envy listen you shouldn't have to is this a rule that applies to everything because it's one thing if a kid says hey you know i want to try some fentanyl well no don't do fentanyl let me explain why so you invite them to a conversation about it versus i expect these things to be done as your parent so go do them yes i think because when you start inviting the kid into i mean i don't have kids clearly yet but when you have this perceived

negotiation of what you expect as a parent that you invite them into a different type of relationship for sure and and not all things are negotiations. I just think we need to have more conversations. If my child said, I want to try fentanyl, it is perfectly okay to say no. And let me sit you down and we're going to converse as to why. Like, conversation is powerful. Look at what you guys have done with conversation. So I've ended my relationship with my father a few years ago.

I very intentionally, very, you know, I told him it's over. When you say you still, because I want to go's over when you say you still because i want to go back to you saying that you still want or desire to have that relationship people always try to guilt me and they're like that's your dad you need your dad and he gonna die soon you got to have that relationship i feel like people should have the permission to leave a relationship forever if they choose to and still be at peace because do you do you feel like people have guilted you into believing that you need to have closure? Because you can't have closure without having the relationship, right?

Yeah, Jason, it's a funny thing you say. So the situation I was in and am in with my father, you talk about people trying to guilt you. I went and got a whole master's degree in family therapy. My teachers would talk to me about, they talked to a whole class, what's your relationship like with your dad? And then I'd say my situation, oh, you need to call them. You don't know. Like people telling me that I need to subject myself to abuse aren't listening so when i tell you now like i pray every day and it's true i pray every day for healing to happen and for me to have a relationship with this man

because that's my dad and i love him to this day and i feel like i have this gift of forgiveness that i'd like to give him that he is not willing to accept because he's got to do these things in order to accept it however do i have peace of course i do because i've given myself this thing and anybody can come into my life as long as you give me emotional and physical safety because i can sort out everything else maybe i maybe i don't understand because i don't i don't have the type of relationship you guys have with your dad but but i i kind of feel like what you said because charlamagne and i always talk about it like our parents didn't have they didn't know

right there was no instruction manual they did the best that they could at that time especially during that time especially you know the grandparents and great-grandparents into slavery so you know my dad was growing up when you know he couldn't use a certain bathroom because he was black so i get it but you never feel that way like i at least want to try to menace and have a conversation before my dad dies like when my mother died right before my mother died literally in the hospital she said i did the best that i could and she was a bad mom i mean and when she got sick and all that with drugs and all that and i felt giving her peace by accepting that as her apology and saying i i accept your apology it's good i forgave her and then she passed away yeah i understood in that moment when she said, I did the best that I could,

was you basically did the best that you could with the limitations of health and drugs and all that. But at some point, there also has to be accountability. And I feel like we're taught, you know, no matter what your parents do, they can bring you in this world, take you out, do what I say, do what I do. Like, at some point, you have to be accountable. All right, we got more with Elliot Connie. When we come back, don't move.'s the breakfast club good morning mv charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club we have jason lee our co-host here we're still kicking it with

elliot connie he has a new book out and of course he's a therapist charlemagne you know what i want you to talk about um you know you've you've created something called the solution focused brief therapy can you break that down what is that yeah the solution focused brief therapy. Can you break that down? What is that? Yeah, man. Solution focused brief therapy. It's a type of therapy that I could best describe as outcome driven as opposed to problem driven. I think I think we associate most therapies with solving problems. Like I got this problem, depression, anxiety, alcoholism, whatever. And I go to a psychotherapist going to want to solve that problem.

And that never resonated with me when i was in graduate school and what solution focused brief therapy is is more like regardless of the problem what are you trying to evolve into what are you trying to grow into and who are you trying to become and let's figure out ways to create that because when you create that that's inherently going to solve or adjust your experience with the problem how do we do that in a world where everybody's afraid of being canceled and everybody that's canceling people act like they don't have problems you know i mean like you talk about twitter or whatever 10 years ago i said the craziest things when i found twitter but now you'll be held accountable for it so how do you help people like resonate in a world where their cancel culture is a real fear that they may have you know jason is funny so i started my career as

a psychotherapist i'm now working on TV projects and all these other things. And almost every entertainer I talk to talks to me about cancel culture. And it's hard for me to explain. But cancel culture in a lot of ways is irrelevant because like Jason, for example, is don't do it. I mess with you. I like Jason. So if you are your authentic self, cancel culture doesn't really exist unless you break like not just for being out there, but you could break some significant rules that all of us will say we're not okay with that as a world and i think i'm okay with that actually but like if you're just being your authentic self there are some people that'll say i can't i can't do that but there's some people are going to connect with it and you just have to be yourself so the people you connect with vibe with you how do we get the world on therapy you invite therapists up to the breakfast club. But I mean, seriously, this is what I said earlier when we were talking about parenting is conversation is powerful. And invite people into the conversation with all of your massive platform. And that's exactly what you do.

That's how we change the world. I was going to ask, do you think everybody needs therapy? No, I don't think everybody needs therapy. No, I don't think everybody needs therapy. But I will say Jason, if I can use you as an example, Jason having a trauma and appearing as if he's had a trauma prove his mental health. For example, if you have a physical illness in your body and you sneeze and cough, that is evidence that your body is healthy because it's responding to the germs within it. It would be weird if Jason got shot, observed a murder and all the other things that have happened. If he's just running through life, I'm an accountant working in my cubicle. Like that'd be weird. So the fact that Jason was doing things, evidence of his trauma, it's triggers him to say, man, you need to go deal with that. And I think a lot of people have dealt with things and we think that it's weakness, but it's actually

evidence of your mental health that you went through something and you were emotionally sneezing. Like you went through something, you're emotionally sneezing like you went through something you're emotionally coughing and we need to be able to have the conversation and say here's how we deal with emotional sneezes and emotional coughs does that mean everything that we deal with do we have to deal with though and meaning not have to deal with as a as in speaking to somebody but you know let's say you know jason you know seeing somebody get shot and he dealt with it his own way he was able to think about it talk about it he's never going to forget it it doesn't traumatize him but he goes to it on his own way does he necessarily have to speak with somebody that's a great question i'm

going to answer that question in two parts when i say deal with i don't mean talk about that issue like one of the beautiful things about solution focused brief therapy is i wouldn't require jason all right let's therapists use these words that i to me they're trigger words like let's unpack that like no i don't want to i don't want to unpack that i don't want to talk to you about the shooting or or whatever now can we talk about other things and get you to healing of course can you do it on your own it's harder to do on your own in a very similar way that um personal training anybody here ever hired a personal trainer of course a therapist needs to make you, and it's hard for you to make yourself that uncomfortable in the same way that a personal trainer makes you uncomfortable.

That's right. And more uncomfortable than you would... Can you be effective if you go to the gym on your own? Sure. But a personal trainer is going to push you a little bit further than you would have pushed yourself on that day, and you will have to be a bit more uncomfortable to deal with the things a personal trainer asks you to do. You'll get mad at your personal trainer.

Facts. You should be angry at your therapist at the time. I can't believe you asked me that. I can't believe you said that. I can't believe I'm in this space. And you wouldn't have gone there on your own. So can you work on it on your own? Of course.

But there's something about the uncomfortable nature that a therapist can produce by asking the kind of questions that way. Well, the solution for your therapist is a very question oriented way of doing things. And it's hard to be that uncomfortable if you're just doing it. And a lot of times I think a lot. Well, I think a lot of people know what they're supposed to do. Yes.

But necessarily don't want to do that. Correct. Does that mean that they need therapy because they know what they're supposed to do, but they don't necessarily want to. Do we know? Well, but hold on to En to envy's point let me think of an example and because i'll give you a perfect example i'm a vengeful hands down straight up there's people that have done things to me that i need my clap back i need my revenge i love that actually i'm the same way i'm petty enough and if you mess with me i'm cool but if you mess with my family i need that revenge and i know i shouldn't feel like that.

And I know Charlamagne would be like, oh, you need to heal because this, that, and the other. But that's good. And I understand that. I know that as a person. Right. But I need my lick back. And I'm not happy until I get that lick back when you mess with Gia, Madison, Logan, London, Brooklyn, Jackson, and Peyton. I need my lick back for that.

I think he was like that before all of them came in the picture, bro. But I never knew. Let me use. I need my lick back for that. I think he was like that before all of them came in the picture. But not in the new. Let me use. I've known you for a while. You taught me off the ledge a couple of times. But sometimes when it comes to them, I know what I'm supposed to do. And I know what a therapist is going to tell me to do. Wait, but is there anything wrong with that, though?

I don't personally see anything wrong with that. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to give you my therapist answer. I'm going to put on my therapist hat answer. No. with that i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna give you my therapist answer i'll put on my therapist hat answer no there is nothing wrong with being vengeful petty getting my lick back clack back i'm i'm that way too that is sean that is me that's the shadow side too though right yeah but there's nothing wrong with that inherently as a trait here's where we might need therapy like if you just came from to me for therapy like i do these things. Does it cause your life any particular harm? No.

Then why would you change it? But oftentimes there's a secondary consequence that we pay for our choices and we need to not have that secondary consequence. I don't search for it. Like I'm not. It's not on my mind every day. But if it comes around, I remember and I make sure I get a trigger. Let me give you an example. Like I don't know your wife, but let's say your wife is anxious.

I got a very close friend. His wife is super anxious. So let's say you had an altercation with somebody like I need to get this person back. They have threatened the people. Correct. I got to get this person back. If you were to do that, if you were married to my friend's wife, she'd be so anxious she wouldn't sleep for a month because she'd be so afraid that they're going to attack back. And at that point, you have to protect her from you at that moment because she's not sleeping because you've done something that is now making her

available to anxiety okay and now i would say envy like is it a problem being vengeful no but you decided to marry this person who's paying a consequence because you sought revenge and now it's something has to be solved seek out i don't believe that i understand but also like let's say ellie let's say you said something about my family or whatever it may be. Let's let it go, right? I know what it is and I know I'm going to run into you.

I know we're going to see something and not physically, right? But then I see online that your house is about to go on foreclosure. This really happened, by the way. Okay. I'm going to try to buy that house.

This isn't a hypothetical. I'm going to bulldoze it and then I'm going to give it to the goodwill. This really happened. Hands down, absolutely. That's the time I'm on. I wasn't hypothetical. I'm going to bulldoze it and then I'm going to give it to the goodwill. This really happened. Hands down, absolutely. That's the time I'm on. I wasn't looking for it, but if it lands in my plan... He was looking

at the list. How else did he find the list? If it lands in my lap, I am going to buy it. I am going to bulldoze it, put your name on the bulldozer, and then give it to the goodwill. That's all you need there, bro. I get my revenge and then I donate to charity i love it nobody got hurt nobody got hurt but envy i actually have his name is envy i envy that level of pettiness i actually have no problem with that

and i envy that level of pettiness however i wasn't looking for it it just fell on my lap however if you were now again i don't know anything about your wife but you were married to a wife that knows you did that she's like like, nah, they're going to buy, they're going to bulldoze. Now you've stressed her out and you have to think about your choices in a way. Now you might be married to somebody else that's, you know, I'm going to help you drive the bulldozer. So I don't think inherently because of the trait, you need therapy.

All right, we got more with Elliot Connie. When we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We have Jason Lee, our co-host here. We're still

kicking it with Elliot Connie. He has a new book out. And of course, he's a therapist. Charlamagne? We always have these conversations about culturally competent therapists. And one of the reasons I like talking to you is because I don't have to explain a Twitter beef. You know what I'm saying? I don't have to explain a twitter beef you know what i'm saying i don't have to

explain what somebody said about me on a blog or you you you see it you know it already like you know other therapists i've had you've had to explain that to them that takes a lot of time out of out of a session yeah i but that's that goes back to representation i hope all of you guys take that very very especially you like there are people watching you that you're never going to meet never going to see and 20 years from now they're still alive like forget they may be walking in your footsteps and have their own media company but they're still alive because representation matters and there's a frustration i was talking to somebody about this this weekend there's a frustration associated with being black because we have to explain things to people i was talking with somebody the other day this and i was furious i'm tired of

explaining this but i was talking to this person about racial trauma and this is a this is a clinician this is a professional clinician at a professional clinician event and somebody gave a lecture about racial trauma and this person came up to me said what do you think of the lecture i said i thought it was i thought it was good that person explained a lot of things that y'all need to hear and she said well i liked it too but i was really frustrated um because he said that black people and particularly men experience trauma every day that can't be true i said it's absolutely true damn i don't know a black person particularly black men that don't experience trauma every day and she, how could that be?

I said, let me explain it to you. If I locked you in your bedroom and I took the most venomous snake and I threw it in the bedroom with you and I locked that door and I close it, I want you out for a week. You didn't just experience trauma on the day you got bit. You experienced trauma every second of every day because you knew there was a venomous snake around. And she was like, oh, I get it now. Well, I'm tired of explaining day because you knew there was a venomous snake around. And she was like, oh, I get it now. Well, I'm tired of explaining that to y'all.

That's right. I don't want to explain blackness 24 hours of my day. I don't want to explain to everybody what we mean. There's a context for living this life that you and I just get. And I think we need more black therapists. Somebody said to me, why do I think black people, in particular men, don't go to therapy? And they said it's because black men, that's it. So don't do that. Don't say we don't go to therapy for some sort of flaw on us. We don't go to therapy for two very basic

reasons. Number one, therapy was not built for us. Number two, it is not currently being done by us. So we need more therapists doing this so that we fit into it. A lot of people go to therapists and the first time they go, they don't have a favorable time. And they feel like because of that, they don't want to go back. I just want to talk about that. People were looking for therapists because sometimes you find the wrong person. It's not the right fit. And people are scared to go back.

Right. I tell people all the time, like you don to you know a restaurant and have a bad experience and then just boycott food right you don't do that you find another restaurant right and i think it i think we need to recognize therapy is the same if i go to see a therapist and it doesn't work doesn't mean therapy didn't work just mean that particular therapist didn't work and we need to be just as variant in our attempts to find a good therapist as we are in our attempts to find good food i want to ask too like you know we've seen so many people discussing mental health nowadays number one do you think it has been a rise of black people going to therapy and and what do you think folks still get wrong about mental health um so to answer the first question

yeah i think we do have more black people going to therapy it's the it's the tiger woods effect right like we're all old enough to remember when tiger woods took over golf black people started going to play golf and they weren't playing golf before that uh serena williams and venus williams similar thing like young black girls go to tennis courts to play tennis because representation matters so the fact that you guys probably more than any other platform in the world platforms talk about black mental health more black people are going to therapy because they heard charlemagne suggested so and they like they they heard it so now they're like man maybe i can go do this and it's the exact same thing that happened in tennis it's the exact same thing that happens in golf and what i think we get wrong more than anything else is we think the therapist is supposed to solve our problems that's actually not true like life is a turbulent

flight the therapist is supposed to make you a better pilot i just got one last question i know we're wrapping up charlamagne's always talks about being anxious and and people always talk about anxiety but i don't look at anxiety as a bad thing it's how you control it right i have six kids charlamagne has four when they go out until even to this day when i go out as a grown-ass man my mom and dad still uh have anxiety about me going out because they're scared right but they're not scared to a point where they're you know listening to that right but it's not to the point where they're calling me at six in the morning oh yeah are you done but they're anxious same thing with my kids that That's never going to change.

No, that's healthy anxious. Okay. Like anxiety is like everything else. There's a degree of healthiness to it. And then some people go way beyond the spectrum to where and think about it in this term. When something is interrupting your ability to live a normal daily life, that's when it becomes a problem. So that anxiety, like my daughter's at NYU. She just called me, told me she's going to a party.

I'm going to have a hard time relaxing tonight cuz I'm something could happen like that's that's normal mm-hmm but if you have anxiety where like my daughter's at NYU and I can't eat I can't sleep like that's that's the problem and I think we have to learn how to manage that and learn how to make people hear anxiety they automatically think negative right we always think bad there is healthy anxiety. Like, you love that daughter or all your children. That daughter specifically because we're talking to her. I think I love them all, yeah.

You don't want anything bad to happen to her. So when she tells you, I've done this thing that puts me at risk, even mild risk, I'm going to be worried about that. The only things that will happen are things that God intended for you to experience. And so you can't have faith and anxiety because anxiety is fear based. So if I believe very strongly that God's got me, that means if I'm going through something hard, I'm going through that hard thing for a reason. So there's no reason to, I just have to trust everything.

And that's what I would say. I would end by saying, like, if you can figure out a way to trust every experience, you're going through all of these things for a reason and be grateful for everything. Like, everything. You are untouchable emotionally. Like, you are just an indestructible force when you're just grateful for everything. Not just grateful for the good things.

Not just grateful for the profound things. But, I mean, like, grateful for all of it. Life is different. What if I can only get there through medication? Oh, you can get there through conversation. Conversation is far more powerful than medication. Life is different. What if I can only get there through medication? Oh, you can get there through conversation. Conversation is far more powerful than medication. Okay.

Promise. What if I can only get there by being petty? Lies we've already established. Petty, this is okay. Ladies and gentlemen, Elliot Conley, man, make sure you go get the new book, The Solution Focused Brief Therapy. That's right. And he's got four books, man. The Art of Solution Focused Therapy, Solution Building and Couples Therapy, The Solution Focused Marriage, and Solution Focused Brief Therapy. That's right. He's got four books, man. The Art of SolutionFocus Therapy, Solution Building in Couples Therapy,

The SolutionFocus Marriage, and SolutionFocus Brief Therapy. Can I say something about the new book? There's something I want to say about the new book. The book is called The SolutionFocus Brief Therapy Diamond. And a lot of people out there, like if you're a clinician, get the book. It's going to teach you how to do SolutionFocus Brief Therapy like no other book will do.

But what is more important to me, if you're not a clinician and therapy is hard, like my colleague and I wrote this book so you could get therapy from this book. Adam Froer. Adam Froer. Dr. Adam Froer. So if you're out there and you're thinking like, I want therapy, but I like I got how am I going to get kids coverage and how am I going to get to that? Whatever. You can have your life change through conversation.

Sometimes that conversation is through a book. So this book isn't just for professionals. It's for people who want to be inspired. And an inspired person can do anything. And if you're not a clinician, the book sounds clinical. But I promise you, if you read this book, you'll be inspired to change your life. All right. Well, Elliot, Connie, ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate you joining us, man.

Yeah. How can they find you? You can find me on social media at Elliot Spe Speaks, on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. Elliot spelled two L's, two T's. And you can go to my website, ElliotConney.com, and that's where you can find all my stuff. All right. Well, it's the Breakfast Club. Elliot Conney, ladies and gentlemen.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jason Lee, our co-host, is here. And let's get to the rumors. Let's go. I've mastered the tea thing. The only place I wanted to come and talk to y'all was here because I really feel like everybody in the culture pays attention to y'all.

But I knew I could talk my shit. Talk to me. This is the rumor report on The Breakfast Club. What you want to know? Listen, one of the best R&B artists in the world dropped a new song yesterday. And I'm talking about Tyrese. He posted a snippet of his new remix to a song, I Don't Think You Ever Love Me. And I think it was addressed to Charlamagne.

The remix features 2 Chainz and Jeezy. And instead of talking about the song in the caption, he decided to talk about you, Charlamagne. Did you see it? I did see that, actually. He said, and for everybody out there, this is Tyrese's words. He said, I sent my remix to Charlamagne and he texts back that nobody cares.

That's facts. The link is in the bio. And then he said, I see the ex-Darkie still losing sleep over me because I'm still my original complexion. Called you Darkie? Definitely not losing no sleep. And first of all, I didn't say nobody cares. Yes, you did. I said still my original complexion. Called you darky? Definitely not losing no sleep. And first of all, I didn't say nobody cares.

Yes, you did. I said we don't care. We, being me, myself, and I. I don't care. Why are you so hard on him? He just sent you his record. Look, in this business, if you can't be used, you're useless. We know this. But Tyrese is a person who only reaches out when he wants something.

I like that. If you can't be used, you're useless. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we know that in this business, right? But he's a person who only reaches out when he wants something. He never reaches out to say, yo, what's up, man? How are you? It's always me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. And he sent me that song like two or three times.

I'm like, yo, we don't care. Wait, when he texts you that and you said, I'm going to text him back. I thought you were, I thought y'all were like homies playing. You were, yo, we don't care. Wait, when he texts you that and you said, I'm going to text him back. I thought you were, I thought y'all were like homies playing. Oh, no. You were really serious that you don't care. No.

Oh, no, no. They go back and forth. There was a group text with me, him, and Tyrese and it gets nasty. Wow. And I put, we don't care. And then he replied back,

light-skinned behavior. Listen, I was saying, I was saying, Jesus. I was saying outside the room, last time I saw Tyrese, he was at, I was saying, Jesus, I was saying outside the room. Last time I saw Tyrese, he was at the Clive Davis party and he was walking out with Kim Burrell. You know, Kim Burrell, she's had a lot to say about the gays. And so later when he said that she had pneumonia and that he wanted us to pray for her, I was like, I wanted to text him and say my gay prayers.

Oh, my goodness. Yes, that wasn't going to happen. Gay prayers work too. Prayers, prayer. No, I left that one alone. God bless her. that wasn't gonna happen Jesus your prayers work too prayer is prayer nah I left that one alone God bless her listen Chloe Bailey

are y'all not gonna play a clip of his record who record he don't know what y'all are found go ahead let's keep going oh he did say though he said hey homie

this one you know it's about to get real he said hey homie what you cannot do is disrespect one of the only real R&B singers that doesn't need auto-tune that is still

out here giving us real R&B music and real lyrics. Who said that? Tyrese. No, Tyrese didn't say that. He said that to you? No. Oh, sorry. It was Mr. Financial Advisor on social media said that. Sorry. We ain't taking your advice. Alright, well anyway, moving on.

Halle Berry and Chloe Bailey are in the news. Now, Chloe Bailey's sex scene and Swarm, I guess, has kicked off a conversation about colorism. And this is a topic that I hate talking about because this was created by white supremacy. But whatever. Social media started giving their opinions on Chloe Bailey's opening sex scene in the Donald Glover show Swarm.

And people are criticizing her for her choice to accept the role. And one person said that, where is the Chloe Bailey mentor, please? She's been making terrible decisions lately. She should have never done that sex scene in Swarm. And I'm not even going to go into her most recent collaboration now people are saying why can't she do a sex scene in a movie well people are comparing it to hallie berry hallie berry saying that she could have she could get an oscar because hallie berry got one from the movie

monster ball and people are saying the only reason why she got that is because she's light-skinned i'm so confused i'm lost this is ridiculous i don't know i did say i did see the scene i will say i love chloe and i love the fact that she's doing whatever she wants to do and it's her body her choices but uh i couldn't stop thinking about laurie harvey in that scene for some reason why because she was getting humped on by her man it's a movie it's acting that was kind of sponsored by pornhub.com i remember uh i had a conversation with megan good last year on my late night talk show hell of a week and she was talking about how she got to be cautious of the role she chooses now because nowadays people can't um determine reality from acting and i thought that was so strange but now

i'm starting to see it play out she's an actress i don't see a problem i don't see a problem either but even what you just said about uh you can't think of laurie harvey i wouldn't be thinking that i'll be like this is a movie well and then you can't i mean her sister is a mermaid i mean i don't know where it would go at the end of the day she's acting she's a disney star no i don't i don't know it is acting it should be escapism but people yes look at colorism is not our issue but it's become our problem i don't know it's it's this is a crazy conversation i don't even know what the skin color got to do with any of that i was confused then they said hallie berry hallie berry getting back shots bro got her an oscar i think i mean was that why she got the oscar i mean i didn't personally care for monsters i don't

think anybody personally cared for monster i didn't care about the ball for Monster's Ball I don't think anybody personally cared for Monster's Ball I didn't care for Monster's Ball well that's it I don't even know why we're talking about I mean yeah that's the rumor report okay what does Swarm on? TV

y'all not gonna play Tyrese's record? man shut up man for real Tyrese got a record for real? yes oh okay yesterday Tyrese posted

this one gotta go thing he put the Wayans Brothers. He put Jamie Foxx. He put Martin. He put Martin. He put Martin. He put Martin. He put Martin.

He put Martin. He put Martin. He put Martin. He put Martin. He put Martin. But then the second swipe was his song. That was too easy. I didn't say nothing because I'm not petty.

Right. But that was very easy. But you read the comments? I know. I started to die. So I'm like, how is nobody posting your song? It's the one gotta go. In all fairness, Tyrese is an amazing artist.

He is. I mean, that last album he had was fire. Shame was one of my favorite songs. I didn't know y'all had beef like that. We don't have no beef. I don't have beef. I don't have beef with nobody. Let me say, I'm trying to get Charlamagne to play your record.

That'd be funny. He might get on live and just start going at you. I'm not the DJ. NB is the DJ. And by the way, you owe Tyrese. Tyrese saved your life. Did he? He didn't save my life.

He saved your marriage. He didn't save. He helped save my marriage. Which sounds wild. It does sound wild. Really? Yeah. How?

See, that man has actually done something for you. Wait, but when? He's never done anything for me. I've done a zillion things for Tyrese. I love Tyrese. What did he do? We can't talk about it now, right? We'll talk about it when we come back.

Okay, cool. No, he did, though. Absolutely, positively. Tyrese saved your marriage. That's wild. That's wild. That's nothing I want to tell my kids. Are we going the are we gonna play the record on the way out no wow can we edit it with just two chains and cheesy verses yo come on man can we just order several

copies and bulldoze it yo come on man we're gonna I'm gonna play Tyrese record in the mix now I'm not gonna let y'all do that no no I'm not gonna let you do that no no. I'm not going to let y'all do that to me. No, no, I'm not going to let you do that. No, no, no. I'm not going to let you do that. I'm not going to let you do that. Nope, nope. Man, that'll be so funny. He's going to go at you for about an hour on live today. He's going to call you all types of names.

He's going to call me a beige bitch. He's going to call you dark. He's going to go back and forth with us. He better not hang with Kimbrough. He better not say no gay jokes. Jesus Christ. Who you giving your donkey to, man? Oh, man.

Four after the hour. Somebody that's capital Riot White. Okay? His name is Cleveland Grover Meredith Jr. He needs to come to the front of the congregation. We like to have a word with him. For real, we're going to do that. We're going to edit.

No, we're not. The new Tyrese record. No, we're not. To where it's just Jeezy and 2 Chainz verses. We can't do that. Man, that'll be so amazing. No, it wouldn't. Come on, man.

Just one time. No, man. All right, one time. One time. No, no. I ain't do that. Man, that'll be so amazing. No, it wouldn't. Come on, man. Just one time. No, man. All right, one time. One time. No, no, I ain't messing with you, man. Didn't we just have a segment with the psychotherapist? Yes. Ain't working.

We did. That ain't me being petty. That's just funny. That's just pure comedy. I'm going to show you. If I got the group chat, I'm going to show you the group chat with us in it. Don't kill the days up next. It's the Breakfast Club.

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This is America. There is no question that there are problems in this country between police and community. Yes, you are a donkey. The latest on that police killing of a black man. Now to new developments in the deadly spa shooting rampage. And yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did. And so we are in a state of emergency. Okay, white supremacist violence is and always has been the number one threat to our society.

But I'm also very proud that my wife is white. To the breakfast club, bitches! Alright, Charlene, please tell me, why was I your donkey of the day? Yes, donkey of the day for Tuesday, March 21st goes to a man named Cleveland Grover Meredith Jr. Who is Cleveland Grover Merritt of Junior? Well, he's a human jar of helmets. OK, the type of person that gets excited when Donald Trump calls for a protest, the type of human who stands back and stands by when Trump tells him to and waits for a command to take back his country. I'm not making this up.

OK, I'm not assuming things. All right, because he was arrested and pled guilty back in 2021 to make to making interstate threats which is a felony and he was sentenced to serve more than two years in prison and three years probation probation after being arrested a day after the capitol riots because he threatened to shoot former house speaker nancy pelosi yes he was arrested after his own mama his mother the wound from which he came called the fbi concerned about a text he sent to an uncle saying thinking about heading over to pelosi speech and putting a bullet in her noggin on live tv he also made a similar threat uh to the mayor of dc now here's the thing about those kind of threats

he didn't just text it you know he got in his vehicle probably a pickup truck and headed to dc for the insurrection that happened on january 6th but he was delayed because of car trouble and he arrived on the evening of january 6th after the riots were over now when this man got arrested in a washington dc hotel room listen to what was seized from him in his arrest an assault rifle a semi-automatic handgun and more than 2500 rounds of ammunition including armor piercing rounds and rounds. And now, Cleveland wants his stuff back. Okay, he doesn't just want his stuff back. He wants his stuff back for a specific reason. He's done his time, and he wants his ammunition and his artillery back.

The mayonnaise is so heavy on this one. Let's go to 11 Alive for the report, please. A Georgia man who served time for his part in the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol now wants his guns and ammunition returned. Cleveland Meredith Jr. was arrested soon after the insurrection. Agents found he drove hundreds of miles to D.C. and brought 2,500 rounds of ammunition and two guns with him. Meredith was released from prison in December and filings obtained by 11 alive we have learned that he is now asking the court to release the firearms and ammo seized during his arrest back to his attorney so they can be sold come on man now I'm not mad at anyone who knows the law and uses the law to their advantage because the motion cites the 2015 US Supreme Court case that in cases where a defendant was banned from owning

guns judges may allow the transfer of seized firearms to a third party as long as the judge is convinced the defendant will not have access to them. And in this case, the motion will call for his lawyer, Tyler Dixon, to sell the firearms to a buyer unknown to Meredith. That's the law. Okay, I'm not mad at it at all. But the reason Cleveland Grover Meredith Jr. is getting donkey of the day is because, yes, he served his prison time. But can you imagine threatening to kill an elected official, threatening to shoot them, getting caught with guns, sent to prison and then coming home and asking for your potential murder weapons back so you can sell them and make money?

Imagine, if you will, a big beach from BMF, right? Coming home from prison and asking law enforcement to give his lawyer the $21 million worth of assets they seized, including the cash, the jewelry, the 13 homes between Detroit, Georgia, and LA, the three dozen vehicles. Hey, give my lawyers that so I can sell them, so I can sell them to make some money. The absurdity, right? You think they would laugh Big Beach out the courtroom? You think they would laugh Big Beach lawyer out the courtroom? Only in America can you threaten to kill someone? Literally say, I want to shoot her in the head. Get caught with guns after traveling where you are to where the person is.

Get caught with the weapons you threaten the person with. And then there is a law that allows you to possibly get said weapons back. And you want those weapons back so you can sell them. Why do you want to sell them? Because you need the money. You just got out of prison trying to get back on your feet. But if I'm the judge, I'm going to say, get back on your feet. How about you get back in this cell? Okay, I'm locking you back up. You need to go back in this cell and sit here until you learn the error of your ways, because you don't think you did anything wrong. If you thought you actually did something wrong,

you wouldn't want to go near any guns, but in particular, the weapons that essentially got you locked up. But in America, the carcassity rules everything around me because let's be clear only a human that's capital riot white is getting two years for all those guns and ammo in the first place and a threat to an elected official a non-white would just be happy to be home a non-white would only only okay i don't know what a non-white would do in a situation like this because he wouldn't have the option. He'd still be in prison. Okay? Only a member of Vanilla Isis would feel privileged enough to

say, run me my weapons back so I can make some money. Some donkey of the days just sell themselves. Please give Cleveland Grove Emeritus Jr. the biggest hee-haw. I'm tripping. Chelsea, let Chelsea Handler give., the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw. Hee-haw. I'm tripping. Chelsea, let Chelsea Handler give him the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw. Hee-haw. That is way too much Dan Mayonnaise.

Oh, man. Oh, Kathy Griffin just hit me. She got something to say, too. Please give this giant jar of mayo the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw. Hee-haw. I'm gonna man Chris Rockfield about this situation. Cracker ass. Crack a ass. Crack a. Oh. Oh. My girl on shift yet?

She clocked in yet? Crack. Oh, okay. Okay. Anybody else? I think that's all we got. That's all. Okay.

All right. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today, sir. Yes, indeed. All right. Let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. Now, Elliot Connie was joining us last hour.

One of the most culturally competent psychotherapists you'll ever go meet in your life. And during that conversation, we were talking about get back, like getting your licks back. We have a piece of that convo? I'll give you a perfect example. I'm a vengeful m****. Hands down, straight up. There's people that have done things to me that I need my clap back. I need my revenge. I love that, actually. I'm the same way, that actually i'm the same way i'm petty enough and if you mess with me i'm cool

but if you mess with my family i need that revenge and i know i shouldn't feel like that and i know what a therapist is gonna tell me is there anything wrong with that though so i'm i don't personally see anything wrong with that i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna give you my therapist answer i'll put on my therapist hat answer no there is nothing wrong with being vengeful petty getting my lick back clack back i'm i'm that way too that is sean that is me that's your shadow side too though right all right so we're asking 800-585-1051 what's the pettiest thing you've done to get your lick back to get revenge revenge? That is the question. I cannot wait to hear this from YouTube page individuals, Jason Lee and DJ Envy.

I can't wait to hear. I think I know a lot of them, though. You know most of mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't. I'm trying. I actually was thinking about it because I know I've done so many things that I can't really think of anything that I sought out to be petty for because there's probably been so many. One thing I will say recently, my pettiest get back was that I felt good about and I didn't even have to be messy, was when there was a video that went viral

of me going to a party with ASAP and Rihanna. And then they took it and said that basically I was sneaking in a picture. They made it look crazy, again, like the Beyonce thing. And I wanted to say something, but then I thought, you know what, what can you say with the internet? You're never going to beat the internet. So I just left it alone. And then Rihanna gave me the baby photos and I put them out. So that was my get back. It was petty the way

I put it out and the way I threw it in everybody's face that they couldn't get it. But I can't remember. I'm trying to think of things that I've been really, really petty. Well, we'll talk about it when we come back and we want to hear from you I've never been petty 800-585-1051 that's a damn lie

I've never been petty you just tried to take Tyrese out of his own song I'm going to do that but that's funny that's not petty we'll talk about it when we come back it's The Breakfast Club The Breakfast Club my family

I'm the type I'm going to buy your house. I'm going to get a bulldozer. I'm going to knock it over, and then I'm going to give the land to Goodwill. That is me. I'm the type, if you park in front of my driveway, I'm going to let all the air out of your tire. You're going to think it's a flat tire. You're going to go to the place to try to change the flat tire, and you're going to realize it's just air. That is me.

I used to have road rage. I used to keep a cup of McDonald's cup with change in it just to throw it at drivers if they cut me off. That used to be me. I'm a changed guy, though. I'm a changed individual. That's not me anymore. I'm calm. I'm cool.

Jason, what about you? You're a cup full of change at people? All day long. This is New York. We used to keep pennies in a cup just for people that used to wild out. I don't do that anymore. I never did none of that. I'm a change individual. That's nuts. I couldn't remember times I've been petty because I've so since tried to become a different person.

So I called somebody on my team and she gave me a list. You know, one of the things I remember when I started my podcast, I wanted to have little mama on and I invited her on. And she wanted glam and she wanted a car service and all that. And I was like, we ain't got no money for that. So she didn't show up, and we still had a show to produce. So I printed out the photo of her here when you interviewed her, and I taped it on a chair, and I interviewed the chair for 45 minutes. Harvey. That's Petty.

Harvey. That's kind of Petty. Yeah. That's kind of Petty. I honestly haven't done anything, Petty. Really? No, I haven't done anything, Petty. Really? No, I haven't. I have learned in life there is nothing I could do or say that will take care of a person who harmed you more than life can. All right?

Because here's the thing about those kind of people. They are just those kind of people. And they didn't just do you wrong. They've done a bunch of people wrong. So eventually it all catches up. And I promise you when it comes to that, I'm undefeated. I let people say whatever. I let people do whatever.

I used to be the person who I can't wait to run back here And talk about you on this microphone But it's like now for what? Like nobody can piss you off Without your consent And I'm not letting Nobody piss me off

No that's old petty Old petty And I don't even think That stuff is petty I think when you When you say something About a person A person may have said

Something about you And you respond verbally That's just a response That's not going out of your way To try to get at a person a person may have said something about you and you respond verbally that's just a response that's not going out of your way to try to get get at a person you know what i mean i've never i've never used any energy going out of my way to try to hurt somebody yeah well i i get that i don't go out of my way either i do respond though and sometimes that is looked at as being petty right like you don't have to respond that's your point every everything doesn't require response i'm learning that um times i still get

weak and give it to him it just depends where you take it like you know buying somebody's house and wanting to bulldozer it that's that's an extreme you know i mean that takes a lot of energy to exert but now let me ask you a question goes into that a lot of time has to go into that i'm not doing all that now the person that that I was going to do that to, what he did wasn't extreme? Oh, very. Okay. Yeah, very.

So energy was matched. But you shouldn't always match energy though. Why not? You know what I'm saying? But sometimes you got to. But you got to teach people how to treat you. Sometimes. Sometimes you got to.

Sometimes you do. Sometimes you got to punch somebody in the face. I don't know if those people ever learn because it's not about you. Those people that treat you like that treat everybody like that we take those type of things personal but it's not just us that's why those people always end up crashing and burning in such a harsh way because it's not just us they do like that they do everybody like that so eventually it catches up i don't even take stuff like that person that's that person's character they got to

live with that they got to deal with that, just the punch in the face just feels better sometimes. And when I mean the punch in the face, you know what it is? I just, I like to kill people, right? And not kill people in the physical form, but kill them in the fact that they just can't do anything. They can't eat. They can't pay their bills. Like, they are dead to the world. That's how I feel.

That's not your place to do, though. Life does that for people. Man, I'm actually in a lawsuit right now. Now, just remember, that's something petty I i did somebody was harassing me online and i told him nigga i'm king kong of the internet don't play with me you keep doing what you do with everybody else he kept doing he released my home address so what i did was i waited waited waited and i saw this this uh kid stream saying that he was trying to have sex with him allegedly so what i did was i took that clip called his apartment building told him i was gonna hire people on craigslist to protest and and leaflet the

community that he was a pedophile jesus christ i called twitter i had his twitter deleted uh because he was harassing me on twitter releasing my home address i trademarked his business and owned it and then i had to remove from the app and he lost all of his income So he's suing me now for that. Drop a bomb for Jason. That's a lot, Jason. That's my time. That's what I'm talking about. That's my time. No, that's what I'm talking about. That took a lot of time and a lot of energy. I feel good for him.

My assistant did all the research. We called his... I want to chest bump him right now. What chest bump him, man? Chest bump him. Why can't you chest bump him? We called the Baltimore Police Department. We filed charges

and I reached out to the kids' parents as a former child molest survivor and an advocate to let them know that their son was being That's a lot. That's a lot, bro. That's a lot. Jason Lee is the king of the lights. Now you got me wanting to do something good. Play Tyrese's song. I'm gonna do that, Jason.

That's exactly what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna play Tyrese's song to show that I am not petty and I don't have any ill feelings towards Tyrese. At the end of this break, we're gonna play Tyrese. We're going to play, at the end of this break, we're going to play Tyrese's new record. Wow. Hello, who's this? Featuring 2 Chainz and Jeezy.

It's Carrie. Hey, Carrie. Good morning. Have you done something petty? What's the pettiest thing you've done to get your lick back? And that's why I'm calling. I'm hoping you and Charlamagne could give me petty lessons. People have done some nasty things to me and I'm always nice like a big dummy. Wait a minute now. You sound

Caribbean. Where you from? Jamaica. Come on now. You know what to do. Go get that goddamn chicken bone and get you a little piece of that person's hand. You know what to do. You know what to do. I can't listen. We can't do it. I can't, Charlamagne.

I have one lady. I feel sorry for her. Let her wreck my house. She destroyed my house. She rocked and rode. She's another house. She stole my plants, stole my furniture. I don't need revenge,

but I just can't do it. I can't believe we're sitting here having this conversation as if black magic don't exist. You stupid. As if voodoo is hard to do. Jay. Hello? Yo, you stupid. That's it. Voodoo is hard to do. Jay.

Hello? Yo. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. What's up, man? What's the pettiest thing you've done to somebody? Hey, this is Jay Cotton. I'm from the city.

Detroit. All right. So I'm working for the city, and I was a lifeguard or whatever. And I got rolled up for a no call, no show. And I called off. I had somebody call. I called off or whatever. And they didn't believe me for whatever reason. So, they gave me like three days suspended me or whatever.

So, I took the boss chapstick and, you know, hit my goops, hit my underarm. Listen, I'm like, listen, y'all did me dirty. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, listen, if Iall did me dirty. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, listen, if I wouldn't have called off, I could see that. But I really called off, and y'all still wrote me up and gave me three days off? So somebody got to pay for this. It'd be wild if you had crabs, though. If you had crabs, that would just, like, totally deliver. I got another story about that, but that's, that's, that would.

What flavor gooch, though? Because the gooch can change flavors depending on what time of day it is. I just finished hooping. Oh, my God. I'm so confused. Salt and vinegar gooch. Goodbye, sir. Salt and vinegar gooch is nuts.

Goodbye, sir. Whoa. Wow. Whoa. 800-105-1051. What's the pettiest thing you did to get your lick back? Let's talk about it. It's the Breakfast Club.

Good morning. I know it now. I know I'm lit. I know I Breakfast Club. Good morning. I ain't no waitin' there. I don't ain't playin'. I don't ain't playin'. I don't ain't playin'. I don't ain't playin'. They came down here. He was back.

Call me. And draw opinions to the Breakfast Club top. Come on. 800-585-1051. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we're talking, we have our co-host Jason Lee, and we're talking get back.

What's the pettiest thing you did to get your get back? Hello, who's this? Hello. Hey, what's your name? Hey, I'm Nia. How are you? Hey, Nia. What's the pettiest thing you did to get your get back? So, the pettiest thing I did, I was working at a job with my ex, whatever. I started talking to my boss. And long story short, I had this job opportunity that I thought, like, okay, this is going to put me on the map, going to make me be better or whatever.

So he basically was like, yeah, you should take it, do it. He was just being real supportive. I'm like, oh, you know, I got the best boyfriend. Let me put my two weeks in and get a different job. So I went to a new job or whatever. Come to find out, everybody at the old job was like, girl, the reason why he did that is because a new girl is there and he's, like, having a affair with her. That's the oldest MFA made me leave his job so he could do him. I said, oh, okay.

So me and my brain, me being petty, I had made, like, these, like, wanted posters saying he was wanted for rape or whatever. Oh, my God. No, that's criminal. That's criminal. Jesus. You need to be in jail.

Sheesh. Oh, no, he tried. He tried. If I can't say my name on here because he's going to court right now. But anyway, I put he was wanted for rape.

I put it all over the parking lot in his job and I went to his mama's neighborhood because he lived with his mama and put it all over all the stop signs. So you falsely accused this man of rape? Sheesh. I did. That's more than petty.

People like you should actually be thrown under the jail. It be like that. It be like that. You playing with that man's life? You playing with that man's livelihood? He's playing with my welfare. Making me leave my job for another female. He could have just broke it off. Emmett Till is dead because of people like you. Who?

Exactly. God, man. Central Park Five did years in prison because of people like her. What are we talking about? That's beyond pain.

That's criminal. She should be in jail. All right. Well, I don't want to play anymore with you guys. I want to do something positive. I want to salute to Tyrese.

Your new single, Tyrese, I Don't Think You Ever Loved Me, is actually tough. It's dope. I think the record is dope. The ATL legacy remix with 2 Chainz and Jeezy is fire. So I just want to congratulate Tyrese on the release of the record. And let's play it. You want to play the record? Let's play the record right now. This is 2 Chainz and Jeezy featuring Tyrese. on the release of the record and and let's play it you don't play the right let's play the record right now I think two chains and Jeezy featuring

Tyrese you have evolved I don't think you ever loved me okay why was that petty Tyrese ain't on the record Tyrese was all over the record no no he's not singing on the record that was Tyrese all over the record that's the version he sent me that was that is not the version he sent me he sent me that version with just two chains and Jeezy and him doing the ad-libs here you see all over the record. That's the version he sent me. That is not the version he sent you. That is the version he sent me. He sent me that version with just 2 Chainz and Jeezy and him doing the ad-libs. See, Jason?

Here, I thought he changed. I thought he evolved. I don't think you ever loved me. I thought he was a different person, but you're not. You're the same old Sean. I thought that was a dope way for him to embrace

what we all saw him go through. And the denial is making it even worse. What are y'all talking about? Salute to Black Tie, man. That is crazy. You know what I mean? You try to do something nice and then y'all gonna jump on me. And that's called you a donkey yesterday well i'm happy to be a donkey

okay you see how they you saw these beige people doing you tyrese they're discouraging me from playing your records you know what when we come back we got the rumor report what we talking about uh cameron is now i think he's leaving hip-hop to get into talk he's gonna launch his own advice talk show okay all right well we'll get into that next He's going to launch his own advice talk show. Okay. All right. Well, we'll get into that next. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Not right what you did to Tyrese. I didn't do nothing. Stop it. Knock it off. I was just playing. I'm having a little fun this morning. That's all.

Super petty. He can joke. I can't joke. See, that's why I don't like to play. Because when I play, everybody get all uptight when I play. When I want to have a little fun. It's because you're not doing it regularly. When you do it regularly, it passes.

I don't do it regularly for a reason. I will hurt people. Yes. Anyway, we are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Jason Lee is here, our co-host. Let's get to the rumors. I've mastered the tea thing.

The only place I wanted to come and talk to you about was here because I really feel like everybody in the culture pays attention to y'all. But I knew I could talk my shit. me this is the rumor report on the breakfast club what you wanna know well listen I said that the dip sap the dip sap dip say rapper Cameron was launching his own advice talk show uh and leaving hip-hop I sort of lied but he didn't say he's launching a talk show and he's calling out Dr.il this is what he said it's called come and talk to me where i get the advice of taking dr phil and i'm out of here dr phil y'all days is number i'm taking everybody out of dr phil you might as well wrap your up because i'm doing everybody black or brown or for my not even black

and brown every race i'm gonna tell them the real advice they need to hear and stop trying to act like, well, we got my friend in the crowd. He's a specialist. Hey, what do you think? Nah, stop cheating on the b******. You talk about your girl crazy and all this crazy b******, but you come home at 5, 6, 7, 8 o'clock in the morning every morning. Right, Whit?

Uh. Uh. That's the response I like. Uh. Well, Cameron is a highly entertaining human So if he wants to do a talk show He can do a talk show And that show that he got

With him and Mace Is funny as hell Who would you love to see on that? But Dr. Phil's show is over Right? Dr. Phil's show is cancelled Well that was the other part Dr. Phil already announced

That his show is going off the air After over 20 years Correct I don't know who I would like to see on that But I do remember And maybe I'm wrong Maybe I got my timelines mixed up But I remember Cam

Saying he was going to do a show that ended up being what we now know as The Catcher Predator. I remember him saying that years ago. This was when all hip-hop was the booming site, and it was on the ill-seed rumor report. He didn't want to beat him up, though, right? I don't remember what it was. I remember him saying he was going to do a show where he was going to be

setting up pedophiles. Yeah, I remember. And then, voila, The Catcher Predator was going to be setting up pedophiles. Yeah, I remember. And then, voila, To Catch a Predator came out. This was like 20 years ago. Not even joking. I'd love to tune in if he had Karen Civil on there. Oh, my God. I mean, because you're giving it Joe Budden.

All of them together? You got to stop, Jason. No, that's too much for one episode. He could have Joe to sing the intro music. Come and talk to me. Anyway, on the Jason Lee show tonight, I got NLE Choppa. He came on to talk about a lot of things.

And one thing I had to ask him was this beef that everybody on the internet was talking about with him and NBA Youngboy. And I was really amazed at the conversation and what he shared, but this is what he said. When I think about you and I think about another rapper who's really successful as an organ... I like how he can

kind of see where I'm going who has a really huge following and I'm like this guy's everything about him is positive what has he ever had any beef with anybody at all and then of course you know I found this stuff with NBA young boy y'all had your time that was at a time when you were in LA travel with no love at all for anybody, for myself. Are you in a different place now with that relationship, where that relationship ended? There's no beef. There was never any beef. More so like a misunderstanding or anything like that.

But there was never no beef. See, beef to me where we come from is like somebody died. And like you trying to get the get back for that person that passed away but it was nothing to be for me and bro i don't really get a lot of young male rappers on my show talking about the issues that they have with other rappers but i always see like academics or vlad talking to them about the beef that they have and it gets really real in the streets i've had a lot of friends die from violence so it was interesting hearing his perspective so as he kept talking he really went into a place that i had never heard a rapper in this generation speak about beef uh with other rappers that's what he said but when he said in the song that your mother will be

devastated when young boys send your stupid ass to god that's beef i mean internet music beef whatever it's not like somebody's chasing you down in the street But that's kind of I mean Especially with your fans being as rabid as they are his fans being the way that they are That gets people gaslit to where now the fans turn it into something, you know, some people have to release certain tension certain anger on a beat or Musically so that it's not bottled in so when you see a person you want to release it physically he marked me on a beat he killed me on a beat but physically I'm here I actually heard an OG rapper say something like that it was they said that if social media was around back in the 1900s it would have

been a lot less beef in the street because people would have been saying things on social media and getting it out right so a lot of things probably would have got squashed before it got to this to the actual street level because back then all you had to do all you could do is run into a person yeah right you know what i mean so i have heard i've heard stuff like that but hearing that from a 20 year old who's in the game now all these rappers getting kid up i i actually admired him saying that nah and ali chop is very smart dude him and his mom they run. I think she was probably, I'm sure, she manages him, so they run pretty close.

He's a really bright individual. I just can't wait till his rhetoric that he displays in interviews matches the content of his music. That's what I can't wait for. Well, he has a new project out, I think, out today. He hasn't been here in New York. I'm going to go check it out. That episode airs on the Jason Lee Show on Revolve Tonight.

And that record His new record I don't believe he goes there It's more of a dance record You've probably heard of it You don't dance with me Love don't live here I don't know I gotta hear the album

Remember we had this conversation Last time he was here Go crazy Last time he was here He sounded just like that Very positive But then the music Didn't match that

You know what I mean So I just hope that On this project it will Speaking of social media gaslighting Everybody's reacting To the conversation We just had about Tamar Braxton and Kandi and Todd and whether or not Todd's going to get a peach. And I don't know. Todd's going to get a peach. They're saying that Tamar was the bully.

But then when we were looking at that photo, people were saying that's not a receipt of Tamar's man checking Todd. Yeah. We said he looked a little bigger than Todd. You know, I said earlier, because you asked me a. You said, who would win in a fight between Todd and Tamar Braxton's fiance? I think his name is J.R.? J.R. J.R.?

Yep. And I said Todd. Right. But upon further review. Oh boy. Okay. I was told J.R. is an ex-Marine

and I can tell that there's a clear size advantage and J.R. looks Irish. Okay. He does look Irish. I might root for Todd, you know,

publicly. With that backdoor bet. Might have to put it on JR. Nah, nah, nah. You can't take it back earlier. You was like, Todd is black. I'm going with the black man.

I didn't have all the stats of the fighters. You didn't give me that. You know? I'm looking at the stats of the fighters now. I'm looking at the height and the weight

and the arm reach and the background. So you know background so you're ex-marine you're gonna have hell with the ex-marine bro especially ex-marine that's irish i'm telling you that right now back door bet that's what i'll do under the table okay publicly go to i mean but you know put your money on that's right yeah okay but i don't want to see any any of that happen i don't want to turn to violence i happen. I don't want to see him turn to violence. I do. No, you don't. Jesus. Stop it, Jason. It was just a hypothetical. No, I don't.

I don't. All right. Well, thank you for that rumor report. You hear the bipolarness? I do. No, I don't. No, I don't. I'm working on me. All right.

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All right, when we come back, we got the positive notice at Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jason Lee, our guest host, is here. We appreciate you for joining us the last couple of days, brother. Man, I had a great time.

We don't have nobody tomorrow. I don't know when he leaves. You gonna ask him when he leaves? Just gonna just invite him in? I thought you said he was here until Thursday. Oh, this is early. I need a day off.

Oh, okay. I have a two-day work week. He has a two-day work week. But definitely check out Jason Lee. When did your show come on? Yeah, the Jason Lee show. We're both tonight,

10 p.m. Eastern. And Ellie Chopper, right? And Ellie Chopper. That's right. All right, when we come back? Yeah, the Jason Lee Show. We're both tonight at 10 p.m. Eastern. In Elishapa, right? In Elishapa. That's right. All right. When we come back, we got the positive notice at Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are at a Breakfast Club. Jason Lee, our co-host, is here. Now, you got a positive note for the people out there? I do. I just want to remind everybody, man, make sure you go get your tickets for the first ever Black Effect Podcast Festival. Thank you to everybody that's been buying tickets, man y'all keep you know getting tickets at the rate

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It's going to be food. It's going to be music. It's just going to be a great day in ATL, man. If you're a podcast lover, I want to see you there. Okay. We got a business, a podcasting panel too for everybody who's trying to get into the business

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The positive note is simply this. Work on your boundaries, baby. Okay? You can't be everything to everyone and nothing to yourself. Breakfast Club, bitches! You all finished

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