The Breakfast Club - FULL SHOW: White House NOT Pardoning Diddy, Young Thug Offers To Help Kevin McCall, Free Reveals Story About Aaliyah + Debbie Allen & Garcelle Beauvais Interview

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Debbie Allen Talks Her New Barbie Tribute Doll, DA Dance Academy, 'Fame', Mariah Carey, Kobe. And, Garcelle Beauvais Talks 'Taken At A Truck Stop: A Black Girl Missing,' RHWOBH, Jamie Foxx. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to Trump, Who Wants Reparations For Himself. Listen for more!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is? Humpty! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Good morning. How y'all feel out there? I feel blessed black and highly favored. Happy to be here.

Another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. That's right. It's Wednesday. Middle of the week. Humpty. How you feel it, Jess? I feel good.

God is good all the time and all the time. God is good. Come on. Don't play. Don't play. We are here. You know sometimes. You know how you pray sometimes.

You know how you pray sometimes. Like, you don't know what to say. So if you feel like you get a bad grade on your prayer. But this morning, I was on fire. He was on fire. What? What? A plus, all day.

I love when the words just flowed. I'd be like, God, thank you for taking away that little nervous spirit. But you know, it's so ill about that. What? God already knows what you need. So it's like we get down on our knees and, you know, we may not have the words, but God knows exactly what's in our heart. So it's right.

However we choose to express it, God already knows. I know. I just don't like when I, like, stutter in my prayer. I don't know. I just something about that I don't like. Well, the only time your prayer is null and void is if you fart while you praying. What?

Yes, a lot of y'all be getting down on your knees and y'all be praying and y'all fart mid-prayer. That makes you pray a null and a void. What? That's in the Bible? Absolutely. That is definitely not in the Bible. Deuteronomy?

Deuteronomy. And, yo, he is always ready. He is crazy. But we eat. Well, we got a great show for you today. Man. The icon, the legend. Oh, my God.

Debbie Allen will be joined us. Let me tell you something, man. Debbie Allen kissed me twice. I mean, good, you know, grandmother, mama, and you know, twice on the cheek, like, and told me how sweet I am. Can't tell me nothing. He loves his old way.

Yes, I do. Yes, I do. He loves a whole black woman. Yes, he did. That's what I do. But she will be joining us this morning. Salute to Barbara. They honored her with her own Barbie.

Who is Barbara? I said Barbie. Barbie, you did say Barba. Oh, Barbara. She said to Barba. The barber's out of her. Barbie. Barbie.

What? They're honoring her with her own Barbie tribute collection dolls. So salute to her. Also, Garcel Bouveau. Bouveau, Bouvelle. Bouvelle. Bovey will be joining us. Garsal Bouvé.

Fancy, that's right. Yeah, she's in the movie business. So she's got a couple movies coming out on Lifetime. Taking at a truck stop. Taking at a truck stop. A black girl missing movie. That comes out this Saturday, right? Yes, this Saturday.

On Lifetime at 8 p.m. She'll be here to talk about that. All right. Well, let's get the show crack. And we got front page news when we come back. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. Hi, it's DJNV. Jess Hilary, Sholomey, Nagy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Good morning, Mimi. Good morning, NB, Jess. Shalameen, how y'all doing?

Good girl. How are you, Mimi? Good, thank you. So this morning marks day 22 of the government shut down, and for millions of Americans, the impact is getting harder to ignore. Across the nation's airports, frustration is also mounting.

The FAA says nearly 19,000 flights were delayed. more than 1,600 canceled between Saturday and Monday with the worst backups in Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, and Newark. The air traffic controllers and TSA officers are still on the job, but without pay. And it's not just airports feeling the pain. This Friday, hundreds of thousands of federal employees, they will miss their first full paycheck since the shutdown began. And starting Monday, federal courts will begin scaling back operations, meaning civil and criminal

cases could be delayed and staff furloughed as funding runs. out. And another important deadline in just 11 days, several states say they will no longer be able to fund SNAP food assistance, a lifeline for more than 42 million families. Meanwhile, lawmakers, they are still at a standstill. The Senate failed for the 11th time to pass a short-term funding bill that would reopen the government to November 11th, and the House remains out of session. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, they have asked to meet with the president, but the House. The White House says that Trump will not sit down with Democrats until after Congress votes to fund the government, something Democrats call impossible without his cooperation.

When asked about it, the president doubled down, though, saying he will not negotiate until the government is reopened. Let's listen to what he had to say. You know, the country is so hot right now. And they've never voted against, you know, continuation. They've never voted again. They've never done that. They're doing this because they have Trump derangement syndrome. know, but I will, I would love to meet. I would like to meet with both of them, but I, I set one

little caveat. I will only meet if they let the country open. People want to go back to work. They want to be served. They want to, they need the services of some people. And a lot of people need the money, the payroll. So I'll do it as soon as they open up the country. Yeah. Well, while Congress goes back and forth over when they will negotiate, the rebel effects are stacking up fast, missed paychecks, halted food aid, layoffs, federal firings, and experts warn the country is headed toward a crisis that

we have never seen before, so. Yeah, in regards to the snapping food assistance, man, I am an ambassador for the Food Bank in New York City. I also do work with the Hope Center in Charleston, South Carolina, so I would encourage everyone to find a food bank or food pantry in your area and do what the government

isn't doing, and that's tossed them a couple of dollars. If you have a despair, because you know, trust me, things are about to get really real out here. Absolutely. And while millions of Americans are waiting for their next paycheck, President Trump says he's the one who's owed money, $230 million to be exact. And he wants the Justice Department to cut the check. Yep.

So he's filed a formal complaint seeking compensation for what he calls years of wrongful investigation, dating back to the Russia probe in 2016 and the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case. Now, both cases were dropped after Trump returned to the White. House. But now that he's back in office, the president says those investigations hurt him financially and personally, and he believes that he is entitled to damages. Now, the tricky part is any payout would have to be approved by Justice Department officials that he appointed himself, including some of whom worked on the cases that we're just, we're talking about right now. So during a press conference at the White House, Trump joked about the unusual situation. Let's listen.

But look, what they did, they rigged the election. And as you know, we had, in one case, 60 Minutes had to pay us a lot of money. George Slopidopoulos had to pay us a lot of money. They already paid, you know, they paid me a lot of money because what they did was wrong. And, you know, when somebody does was wrong, now, with the country, it's interesting because I'm the one that makes a decision, right? And, you know, that decision would have to go across my desk. And it's awfully strange to make a decision where I'm paying myself. In other words, did you ever have one of those cases where you have to decide how much you're paying yourself in damages?

But I was damaged very greatly. Any money that I would get, I would give to charity. Man, if he wasn't the president in real life, he'd be my favorite movie villain. Do you hear me? Trump wants reparations. And he's going to get it because the Justice Department is his. He says, I got to pay him. How much I'm going to get myself, which is a weird situation.

That White House ballroom ain't going to pay for itself? Trump really, Debo. What you got on his ballroom, homie? what you got on his plane. This is crazy. You realize how unprecedented this is? We are in uncharted territory, for real. A sitting president asking his own administration to pay him millions for investigating him.

He wants reparations, Mimi, and he going to get it. Yes. I wish I could ask for reparations for myself. Yeah. This is crazy. Everybody can pay you, though. He's going to get every penny. Every dollar.

It's his justice department. Like he just said, I'm essentially trying to figure out how much. much to write myself. Oh, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Never seen anything like it. Yep. Well, we will continue to watch that. Justice Department. They declined to comment on that. So coming up at 7, a new study says we're giving too much of our energy away to texting. We'll tell you why and why that's taking a bigger toll on your energy than you think. I'll tell you one thing. This second Trump term is make America griff again. Okay, this is the great American griff. It ain't even a griff. He's just like, yo, give me me, man. I need

a little bit of everything. It hasn't even been a full year yet. You know that. What? Y'all, y'all worried about Project 2025. We're until January 1st and all of a sudden Project 26 drop. Damn. Exactly. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1.

If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open to get an 800-585-105-1. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 8-8-8-5-10-1-5-1. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this?

My name, Juce. Juice, what up? Get it off your chest, Juice. Man, I just got five for my job, like 20 minutes ago. Damn, what you do? What you did? I let these fools get the best of me. It was my fault.

Without what happened. I let all these in Sarkin Valley, Pennsylvania get the best of me. Wow. Tell us what happened. What happened? Where did you work? I worked that audio. You know that this the food store? Yeah.

Yeah, I worked with a distributor. Well, long story short, they kept messing with me. They kept, they kept, like, all right, they kept put me in the freezer and tell me I was their best, best forklift operator, but you give me the worst room to work with the worst people. And you're doing it on purpose because they know how I get. And I let them get me like that. Well, listen, don't do anything crazy. You'll find another job. Yeah.

Okay, you, if you're at a better... Man, I won't one of the hardest workers in America. I'll get a job tomorrow. I just went and got some smoke. There you go. I got some red-booter mix of my doo-same. There you go. See, I'm 39 now.

Back when I was 1929, I didn't win hit the block. But I ain't doing none of that. All right? I'm going to go home. I'm going to smoke or something, sip or something, and I'm going to get a job by the end of the week. You're going to be fine, bro. I've been fired seven times in my life.

Four times from radio. I already know. Exactly. You'll be fine. Like, you'll be fine. Just don't do nothing. I know I'll be fine. Oh, yo, yo, I called him before.

I'm going to do that one, the black men don't cheat cookout. Oh. The cheeks. Black men don't cheat. Oh, black men don't cheat. Oh, I was like, man, what a black, what cheeks? Okay, yeah. You got a, you got a lady?

Who me? Yeah. No. No. Oh, but you just practice in good habits. When you get you a woman, you're not going to cheat on it. I got a great resume. All my exes will tell you, I ain't never cheating.

That's what I'm talking about, my brother. Well, go home, man. Don't drink and smoke yet. I like your energy. I like your energy, man. Just relax. No, no, no, I'm going to talk to the crib. I'm going to go ahead and fall back.

And then I bet you, I'm going to fill out six applications today. I'm going to get five phone calls back tomorrow. That's what I'm talking about. I know. I love your energy. I love your spirit. God got you, my brother. Good love, brother.

Thank you. Yeah, yeah. You know, your son may pray for me, bro. Absolutely. It's done deal. All right. Good looking, y'all. He is crazy over there going to close his eyes like he's praying.

Because I really did pray for him this time. I'm not one of these people that tell somebody I'm going to pray for them and don't. See, you know what y'all do? Somebody die and y'all jump online and be like, praying's up for the person. How about pray first? Never ever say that. I say rest in peace or rest in power. Yeah, but pray for the person.

Like, if he asked me to pray for him, I gave him a quick prayer just now. Nice. You know what name? No, but I said pray for the brother that just called him. God just heard the call. Okay. He told exactly what I'm talking about. Pray for the brother that's smoking the weed and drinking the dude.

who just lost his job, God. There you go. Okay, yes. After the movie. Pray for juice. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105-1. If you need the vet and hit us up now.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlemagne. Envy, what up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest.

I got an indoor pool. Our outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. We lie? Hello, who's this? It's Olivia from Long Island

Olivia from Long Island What's up? Get it off your chest Good morning Oh my God First of all I love y'all I listen to y'all every day I'm so happy to be on But I have you too

Over the limit this morning What's up Olivia Who pushed you over the limit Oh my God I can't believe We're about to let the orange one We letting him contact the entire USMA We cannot pay the federal

And government U.S. workers But we're going to line him up To pay himself I can't take it no more I'm over the limit. Oh, man. Think about this. Lining up to pay himself,

paying for that ballroom, just gave $20 billion to Argentina. I'm going to say it ain't so. I can't take it no more. I'll over my limit. I can't take it. We got to figure this out. We got to get out of here.

That's the president. I can't take. Well, elections have consequences. That's all I can tell people. But you know, I don't know what else to tell you. Hello, who's this? This is Larry. What's going on?

What's up, Larry? Get it up your chest, Larry. How are you, Larry? I'm doing all right, Mr. the guy. Yeah, my middle name is Larry. Well, listen, my thing is, America is a dump anymore, man.

It used to be fun to live here. It ain't fun to live here no more. That's not true now. Come on, cut it out. Now we're being a little crazy. So tell me in fun of place. Hey, look, it's the current administration is going to kill us all.

That is true, but. Hey, the poverty line used to be like 20K or something, I bet you the property line is about 50K now. Listen, the Madden level just on 99 right now. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, it's America. Hey, it's built and stress in wild. This whole mental health thing is real.

I got the hook, you, man. I mean, I can get it, but I got it. I will. Thank you, my brother. I appreciate you, man. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning. This is Crystal.

Call it from Norfolk. Crystal from Norfolk. What's up, Crystal? I'll be out there this weekend. What's up with you? Hey, good morning, y'all. Good morning, Charleneen, Jess. Peace.

Good morning. I just wanted to share. Like, I'm so frustrated with this situation going on with the government. I'm a federal worker. I've been a federal worker for seven, eight years. We've been through this before with shutdown, but it has been nothing like this. It's so chaotic. I work in an operating room.

We are mandatory staff. We still have to come to work. And we know we're not getting paid. When the last time you got paid? So we got a partial paycheck, the last half. we got paid, though it was two weeks ago. We got a partial paycheck, but my check was short almost $1,000.

Lord have mercy. So were you able to take care of your rent this month and your card note and all that stuff like that? I was. Thankfully, I'm in a situation where my husband worked and they're able to take care of that stuff, but there are a lot of people I work with that have two federal workers in their household. You know, both their incomes come from the federal government.

So nobody's being paid. I know people that are taking out personal consumer loans to take care of that so they don't get in first step. I don't think people realize, like, I think it's what, 67% of the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Absolutely. So they don't understand how this government shutdown

is impacting whole households, like she just said. One check throws everything off, one missing check. Absolutely. I'm so sorry, Chris. People out here are trying to work two jobs, trying to Uber,

and then the cherry on the cake is it still supporters of this administration at work, and we got to sit there and listen to them, justify how it's the Democrats' fault. Like, it's ridiculous. I'm so pissed off going to work this morning. Every day I know I'm not getting paid. It's being harder and harder to go into there.

But that's what I don't understand. Number one, I don't understand how Democrats are losing in the messaging game when it comes to something like this. When Republicans control every, you know, the branch of government, and I don't understand how those people will even care whose part, whose fault it is when they just not getting paid. That's it. But anyway, thank you.

I hope y'all have a good day. Thank you for letting me this today. Absolutely. get it off here. It's real out here, y'all. It is really, really real out here. 800-585-105.1. We got the latest for Lauren coming up. We do. With all that going on, the White House has had to take some time to respond to Diddy in the conversations about him being commuted.

Okay. What is they say, no? We're going to talk about it when we come back. They said some things. What if one of them just say, no. Oh, my God. It'll be like, oh, my God. Honestly. That'll be crazy. We'll talk about it when we come back.

At this point, we wouldn't even care. We'll get to that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Lauren becoming a straight fit. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the detail.

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. The latest with Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes she has facts. Sometimes she has details. Sometimes she have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest. On the breakfast club.

Talk to me. L.L. Cool Bay, Brandica. Good morning. You know, I's running down on people for wearing counterfeit goods now. That ain't real. That ain't real rattlesnick you got on. It's fall.

It is fall. Yes, it is. Because I care about our animals. You care about the animals. I do. Well, you need to be caring about not getting sick. And you look cute, you look nice. But put something on.

I don't need you coming to here, coughing and sneezing and all of that. It's layered. And it's October. Don't cough, Sholame. Don't do that. He's dirty. You don't cover his mouth. You see that, right?

No, he don't cover nothing. He's just all over there. all right so let's get into the latest because the white house has had to take the time to come out and dispute the fact that president trump may be commuting ditty this week so you guys remember we've reported that tm z spoke to a high-ranking white house official who they say told them that as early as this week uh shone combs diddy could be commuted by donald trump so a high-ranking white house official came out yesterday and said there is zero truth to the tmz report which we would have gladly explained had they reached out before running their fake news. The president not anonymous sources is the final decider on pardons and commutations. Now, after

this statement hit, TMZ went back and updated their story in their headline and they're standing by their report. So they posted the White House Communications Office is saying our story is not true. We stand by our story. Our story is accurate. And that headline and that update is still

on the site as of this morning. Now, I had reached out to the White House trying to get a statement from them. Who the hell you know at the White House? How you just reach out to the White House? You don't reach out to anybody. I reached out to the White House. Keep going. Tell you got connections.

You got connections. Right. Dang. But also there's a communication office. Okay. So the White House did not respond to me. I did try again this morning. Maybe it's because you're sleazy.

What I got to do with me? You know they don't like you. But I thought that their email was interesting. It has nothing to do with Ditty, but I just thought it was interesting. Their email response that is automatic says due to staff shortages resulting from the democratic shutdown. The typical 24-7 monitoring of this inbox may experience delays. We ask for your patience as

you work through this matter. As you await your response, please remember, this could have all been avoided if the Democrats voted for the clean, continuing resolution to keep the government open. The press office. All that came in an email? Yes, the press office cannot accommodate requests or e-mails

at this time. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Oh yeah, that's on government websites and everything. I'm saying to read their messaging. They're messaging. you don't got to like them as a party but boy their messaging is they won when they want to beat a narrative into your head they will and the narrative

is the government is shut down because of the Democrats so Diddy is we don't know if Diddy is might or might not be getting pardoned possibly it was on his desk possibly as not we don't know so this happened before y'all remember that his attorneys reached out yeah no they went on they did interviews saying that

they were having conversations with Trump and then they did other interviews probably the same week saying oh no no no we're not having conversations with Trump. I think that there is something happening behind the scenes, but it keeps making news and somebody doesn't want it to. Yeah, it shouldn't make news. That's what I said the other day. Why are they talking about it? Just be quiet.

Do what you got to do. And when it's done, you know, it's done. Is it true that they be charging for pardons? I don't know if that's a real thing, but I always hear that, right? And it wouldn't surprise me coming from this administration. But I know whatever they're charging, they're going to charge double for Diddy plus tax. Just because Diddy

has been so critical of Trump. Yeah. And there are some reports right now, which I did reach out and ask the White House about having her back yet. I saw a report that Trump is also considering taking this off the table and not doing it because he's worried about his response from his base because Diddy has so

publicly like dragged MAGA and him they don't, he's from the report according to another White House source official. He's taking this off the table because he doesn't want the backlash from the MAGA supporters. Yeah. Now in other news Kevin McCall

he's talking about being on EBT right now because he says Chris Brown owes him money. Let's take a listen. Chris Brown. Yeah, girl, your man. Let's take a listen to Kevin. My ex. Why the fuck I got an EBT car? We got that breezy, bro. It made 90, whatever the

million. And it's a say, KKKKKMack. Can I get $25,000 for them four songs I owe you, bro? I just want to leave, bro. I'm not even tripping, though. I got an EBT car. I'm like, what the fuck, bro? I can't even get nothing. Bro, man.

I don't want to see you. cry. I'm here. Say I can think I'm a bad. That's a fucking fair. I'm on EBT, bro. Hey. That's why. Hey. I'm down, bro. I'm on EBT, fat, Lou. I say my name, bro. That's, man.

I had to go up in that motherfucker and hide my face with the balls like COVID, bro. Don't have, like, every, every thing you ain't had no more. That's EB card on the set. That's got an EBT call. And what's crazy is he ain't even about to head. That is crazy. Yeah. Oh, yeah, because everything that's happening with the government.

Yeah. I respect the honesty, though. I mean, there's a lot of people in the industry, probably in the same boat. That's why I'd be encouraging folks to go to trade school. Absolutely. Because with the way the economy is going now, you're about to see a lot more people in the industry having to be honest like that. I thought COVID was going to be what, you know, pushed a lot of artists to that. But, you know, the PPP loans came into stimulus checks and all the other small business loans.

So people was able to front a little while longer. But boy, the way things are right now, people are going to be able to be. But Kevin McCall need a little bit more than, you know, trade school. He needs some help. Like, you need to see somebody. Ben needed help. Yeah, but the crazy thing about this, they've been having this conversation for, like, 10, 15 years about this.

And Chris said he paid him. And Kevin said it wasn't paid him, he wasn't paid right. Yeah. Whatever the situation is. But shouldn't Kevin be getting, like, royalties and publishing and all of that? He should, because his name is on Deucis. He's a featured artist on Duce's, and he's a featured artist on Strip. Yeah, well.

There's some big records. I know them records made some money out. They definitely got big royalty checks With them record Deuce is what Two, three times platinum I think strip is platinum So yeah but I just

You know when you sign contracts I don't know Who signed off or what it was I was about to say You gotta kind of know the business behind And how that was like You know set up whatever Well Chris Brown has seemingly responded

He posted on his Insta story last night Remember this You can't walk across a burnt bridge And you know what's funnier Than a troll A broke one with a like the side smiley face Young Thug also saw the interview And he posted to his ex account

Kevin McCall Hit me, I'll give you the 25K you need, and I know CB would give it to you also, bro. He a real one. He said, people are just busy sometimes, my brother. I mean, Chris is right. You can't walk across a burnt bridge, but if I owe you, I don't know if he owes him or not.

But if I do owe you, bridge burnt or not, I'm going to still give you what I owe. But they've been going back and forth for years, and it's been nasty. It hasn't been like, you know, hey, you owe me this money, figured out and caught. Like, they've been nasty.

But even when it comes to thing, though, why not court? Like, why are you know what I'm going to go to legal route? In other places in an interview, he was talking about things even with, like, In the new podcast, Hell in Heaven, two young Americans moved to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead. The other tried for murder.

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He was talking about to start the legal process, it's a couple hundred dollars. But financially, he's dealing with so much other stuff. He says the last little bit of money that he got, he bought his mother house. And he paid whatever he could and back through child support. He's kind of at his end right now. So I don't think, you know, financially he can do court right now from how it seemed in this interview. I'm sure Kevin will be calling us later on today on next up. what I'm saying

calling us for it Mama would He reaches out He reaches out all the time Oh okay But with the last little bit of money He'll reach out to me I don't remember

What you mean What you mean What you thought He was going to reach Check your Instagram I guarantee you He had you on your Instagram Yeah

And he probably text my phone Like I know Kevin Kevin to school Whatever but you know But the last Big check that he had He bought his mother How his mom

Would have been living With me Especially if you Was this a long time ago Or was this He didn't specify the year But I also too Don't know

What the circumstance Was that his mom was like you know what I mean like what her situation was that he needed to go like get to that crib with the money that he said he had I know is man y'all better not look at that video and chuckle or no anything because that could be anybody at any given moment what industry you in I don't care what it is you do for a living that could be you in two seconds yeah wishing him the best I make then that he gets on the phone with young thug because seems like young thug wants to help him that's good I'm proud of young thug for doing

that's what's up hopefully that helps him out salute the young Doug, yes. Yeah. All right. All right. When we come back, we got front page news. That was the latest with Lauren. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess Hilary. Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. Let's get back in some front page news. What's up, Mimi? Good morning. Good morning. Good morning.

All right. Well, we start this hour in New York City where a federal raid on Canal Street erupted into chaos as ice agents moved in and crowds fought back. Now, the sidewalks of Canal Street usually packed with vendors. selling knockoff handbags and watches turned 10 to a second at witnesses say agents they swarm the area ordering people to clear out as shoppers and vendors they scrabbled to grab their belongings panic spread people ran in every direction um some falling as they tried to get away and also shouting at officers now federal officials say the operation was part of homeland security investigation into counterfeit goods which agents from ice the FBI the ATF they were on the ground to help out

with. But witnesses described the scene as a standoff with armed agents in military-style trucks moving through the area. And Department of Homeland Security says at least one protester was arrested for assaulting a federal officer. And the NYPD says it had no involvement at all in the raid. But by evening, protesters, they gathered outside of 26 federal plaza where detainees were reportedly taken, calling what happened a show of force, an unnecessary force and terrifying for immigrant workers. Now, at a press conference, city officials, they condemn the raid, calling it shameful and an overreach of federal power. Let's listen to that. There is no excuse for sending military-style vehicles and a national law enforcement response

for street vendors. None of this is about public safety. It is about fear and chaos. Ordinary New Yorkers on their way home are coming home. Stood up. and said what you were doing is shameful. And ICE's response to that was escalation and violence. So I didn't know ICE gets involved with folks over counterfeit goods. Like, ain't no... Well, it's illegal immigrants. They're saying that people that are selling the counterfeit goods are illegal immigrants.

I never noticed that. I'd be down there all the time. We used to work down there. I never, you know, notice they were illegal immigrant. But, I mean, you don't know who's illegal immigrant. And who's that. You don't know who's illegal. That's true.

We don't check people with paperwork. That's me profiling. You know what I didn't notice? What is an illegal immigrant? What I'm trying to say is, I don't see a legal immigrant. a lot of Mexicans out there, y'all. That's what I was trying to say. Oh, wow. Not be Africans out there, though? Yes, that is true.

That's what they were, yeah. Some of them illegal to? That is true. They were asking for passports. They were asking for identification. Video shows, you know, people who look to be African being arrested, people who look to be Asian being arrested. But that's been going on for years.

Like, they've never hid. Like, they're out there in broad daylight. Like, they're not hide. Every once in a while they run, like, cops are coming out. Everybody just scatter. But, yeah, They've been there for, like you said. Forever. Good laid out on the sidewalk. Like, yeah.

Damn. I do want y'all to know, too, if Mundani gets elected, you're going to see stuff like that all the time. It's going to be military in the street. It's going to be ICE agents. Every federal authority you can think of. I saw Trump yesterday speaking from the White House, and Trump was like, you know, you know, it looks like, you know, Mondani's going to win. But, you know, remember, everything goes through the White House.

And he was like, well, at least this White House it does. I was like, damn. Yeah. And it don't. By the way, everything's not supposed to go through the White House from on a local level. But he's letting you know when Donnie becomes mayor of New York City, we're going to be, we're going to be there. I'm on your ass. I'm on your ass. Absolutely. Well, yesterday's event wasn't an isolated incident in Los Angeles. There was a separate ice operation that left two people shot, including a TikToker and a U.S. Marshal.

And in Chicago, another raid led to another dramatic scene. And in Chicago, they now have to wear or a federal. judge has ordered them to wear body camera video to limit the use of tear gas. So ice rays happening all over the country. And a warning for parents this morning. It's a game that millions of kids play every day. But Florida's Attorney General says Roblox has become a breeding ground for predators. He's now issuing criminal subpoenas to the company, accusing the popular online gaming platform of failing to protect children from sexual predators. Now, investigators say, have used Roblox to communicate with and grew minors, even bribing them with the game's virtual currency known as Robux to send explicit photos and video. Now, experts warn is part of a much

bigger problem that stretches beyond Florida. The subpoenas will now allow prosecutors to dig deeper, searching for evidence tied to suspected predators, victims, and whether the company failed to report abuse or put proper safeguards in place. Now, Roblox, which has 70 million daily users worldwide says it takes safety very seriously. In a statement, the company said it blocks images and video sharing, filters private information and uses AI tools to monitor harmful content. But still, the pressure is mounting lawmakers in both California and Louisiana have already filed lawsuits accusing the company of not doing enough to stop predators and dozens of families across the U.S. are now joining in similar lawsuits. That is crazy. Very crazy. But you know,

I shout out to the people. I don't know if y'all have seen the people who take matters to their own hands where they have these group of guys. They'll pose his kids like on these games and they catch predators like that. I don't know what they do with them but like they catch them

and then they act like they want to meet up with the person and then they actually streamed themselves meeting up with the people. I see that too. Yeah. They'll get hurt. Yeah. Yeah.

I know. Because they're not. I mean, I love the fact that they catch these nasty ass individuals but they don't get to the point. They're not police. I know. They just do. They're just trying to, yeah, but they're going to get themselves hurt.

But, yeah, I love the fact that they are catching these nasty girls. Yeah, but they don't never catch them and beat their ass. Like, you know, that's the only thing I never used to like about Chris Hansen. It's like, don't just catch them. No, no, no. Sometimes they do. Oh, they do? Like, yeah.

Sometimes they do it. It's a group of guys that do. They're black. They be doing it. But they also get locked up doing that too because they streamed their self doing. Yeah. But yeah. They need to get some white, uh, white vigilantes.

Yeah. Yeah. So, bro, get about three or four white vigilantes with them, you know what I mean? Yeah. So it looked like a collaborative record. Yeah, I watch it all the time, and I love the fact that they catch these people. But, you know, I'm always nerd. I'm just getting some ass whipped, that's all.

Yeah, but they can still do it. These people need to be in jail, like, trying to lure these kids. Yeah, whipped their ass and drop them off to the police station. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I got no problem with both forms of justice. Yeah. And so while parents are worrying about how kids use technology,

adults aren't off the hook either. So a new study, I don't know if y'all do this, but I know I have been caught doing this. A new study says the way we communicate online may be stressing us out more than we realize. So if you've ever found yourself accidentally arguing with someone over text and suddenly you're five paragraphs deep and it's way too late to call,

well, researchers say there's a reason that that happens. They found that arguments over text last three times longer and get four times messier than when people talk face to face. So the study which was published in the Journal of Social Relationships, it says that it all comes down to what's missing, tone, body language, and real-time feedback. Without those cues, messages can get misread. Emotions run high, and what could have been a quick disagreement

now turns into a full-blown text message marathon. So have you guys ever found yourself, like, standing in steel, like standing still, just texting with somebody over an argument? Yeah, because you forget certain things that you say. It's like, oh, dang, I say this. So, yeah, you got to. And when you're in the moment and you arguing with somebody face-to-face, you're on a spot right there

nah you get let me give me like a couple minutes I'm gonna see you some it again get you watch you rock you know what I mean you get stupid but I need to call you you know what I'm saying I don't even like to argue over the front

I need to look at you face to face and see you in the eye you know what I'm saying that's what I like there's nothing better than that I like both but I like texting somebody and then blocking them

so they can't respond so when they see me whatever I just caught somebody like that too I've been waiting a few years to catch this person I caught him too boy I caught him

And I caught it. And the crazy part is when they saw me, they were like, y'all, I need to talk to you. And what threw me off is that they act like like they had something to say to me. And I was like, what? Are you? Oh, it felt so good to get it off.

Wow. Oh, it felt so good to get it. All right. Okay. Thank you, Mimi. All right, y'all. Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown TV.

For more stories, follow the black information network. Download the free IHeartRadial app and visit B-I-N-News.com. Thank you, Mimi. Now, when we come back to icon, the legend, And Debbie Allen will be joining us and we'll be talking to her next and don't go anywhere.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Jess, hilarious. Charlamaine de Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

Long on the Roses here as well. And we got a special guest in the building. A legendary, iconic guests. The legend. Hey, some guests are special. Some are legendary and iconic. That's right. And we have the iconic,

the legendary Miss Debbie Allen. Welcome. Good morning. Thank you. Good morning. How are you feeling? I feel really good. I'm on New York time.

I'm on New York air. I'm feeling good to be in New York. I like, I miss the city. Every time I come, there's so much happening. Saturday morning I woke up and there was this big protest outside. I heard all this noise and I looked down and there was like half a million people in Times Square. And then I went to new restaurants and saw new shows, saw two new shows. I love New York.

Absolutely. Yeah. Oh, condolences, too, on the loss of your mother. Thank you. Absolutely. I appreciate that. Absolutely. And I was thinking about you when you was coming in, man, because, you know, you've built such a legacy, you know, Broadway, television and film.

When you think about the word legacy now, does it mean what you've done or who you've helped do it after you? Oh. Well, you know what I would have to say who I'm helping? Because that's real legacy You know, I have so many Hundreds of kids that I'm educating at the dance school And across around the world

With the, you know The Internet has allowed us To be international You know, we can have these IG classes Yeah, legacy I think has to do with the future And what seed your planning What path you have lit

That helps people find their way When you started dancing and you got into drama. Did you know that that was going to be your career? Did you know that was that? Because even to this day, you know, I have kids. I was telling you that dance. And I always think to myself, well, what does dance take them to?

But then when I look at your career, I'm like, there's no, there's so many possibilities. Yeah. So did you ever think that that was going to be a career? I was determined that four years old that that was going to be my career. Wow. Because we were watching television and we would watch musicals will come on every Saturday morning. and I so wanted to replace that Shirley Temple, honey. I wanted that to be me going up and down those steps with Bill Robinson

and all those glorious musical films. I saw myself in that world. And then it was a challenge to get the training in the segregated South where I grew up. But mom was always very resourceful and she found ways. And yeah, I think children can see themselves. And this is why you have to. to make it possible for them by letting them see other things.

I remember when mom wouldn't let me go to the circus because she wanted me to go and see this East Indian dance company. And I was kicking and screaming. I wanted to see those clowns and those lions. But when I saw that dance company, I saw a whole other language of dance that I didn't know. I had not seen. I was probably eight years old. But this is why we have to expose our children to more, which is why.

right now we need more more and more education, more cultural programs for children, art programs, and just take them on those field trips. Take them to see art exhibits, take them to see dance concerts or music

concerts or, you know, little plays at the Y. Anything that is outside of the box of the TikTok of it all and television. Mom used to make us think that the television was broke so we would take our butts outside that's what makes it so important the debby allen dance

academy right yeah 25 years congratulations this is quite a landmark let's let's talk about what that means because as I was saying when I'm out there on a row with my daughters a lot of times we don't see too many people that look like us yeah and a lot of that is not because we can't dance it's because we can't afford it the traveling the costumes the privates it's it's a lot and didn't realize until I jumped in and my wife said like we need another check I'm like another check I know but it's so expensive so talk about the importance of opening their school well the Debbie Allen Dance Academy is in cultural oases that now has a middle school has programs for boys elders cancer patients but for young people it is designed to be an

open door for whoever it is that has the spirit of the dance can come through that door and find the class and I will get a program for you I basically said no to competition so I've been asked year after year after year and I don't do them because I want children to compete with themselves I want them to be in the classroom I want them to be in the dance studio

and see where are where am I? Did I do that turn? Can I balance can I do the passe? Can I you know what is it that I'm learning? Can I do that tap break? And I think it's great like you say the competition world is a great experience it teaches children performance and a lot of things and does cost a lot of money and so it would be

not possible for so many of us it's just not possible so where I'm living I am raising money every minute of my waking life to give more opportunity to the kids I mean right now it's very difficult with all the foolishness is going on in Washington. The foolishness is going on with the nonprofit world. I mean, you can't even write a grant now and say you're, you know, focused on brown and black children. You can't even say that. You can't say you're dealing with disabled. You can't, I mean, there's so many, this is ridiculous. So it means that we're going to just become more grassroots the way we were in the 50s, honey, because that's what it was. It was, you have to get your community together.

and there's a big community of diverse people who want to see the arts prevail and programs prevail because that's the future. The creativity that it takes to create a ballet-like revelations is the same creativity that will cure cancer. It's the same part of your brain that we are developing. Creativity, you have to think outside the box to figure these things out

and to come to some, you know, understanding or level of accomplishments. And to me, creativity is the closest you can be to God, is to be creative. So the Debbie Allen Dance Academy is a real purpose in my life and my husband Norman Nixon's life, my daughter's life, my son, the whole community. We have a community of parents and people who love us nationwide because we have to, you know, throw that tin cup out there. I mean, if I could say a million people just send me $2, it would help us get through a whole year of programming and opportunity. We have a program called, we have a program called Sons of Dada, and that's for the boys. I have more boys in my school than any school I bet in America. I don't make them wear the tights.

They can come to ballet class in their shorts or the sweatpants. but they are there I mean I got 30 boys and there's a program Sons of Dada that offers a scholarship for them all they have to do is say I want raise their hand I want to come

and then they're there David Cobran has been very supportive of this program but it needs to expand I just I just don't have enough hours in the day to do all that I know I could do and

I just have to keep working and I have a great team team that is helping me. And while we're here, just tell them how they can donate. Because people listen right now and you're talking about the school. If somebody wants to donate, that $2, like you said, a million people, how can they donate? If you go on the Debbie Allen Dance Academy.com, you'll see there's a program called Rhythm of Giving. Or you can just see how to get in touch with Dina Bartella or just how to drop through, you know, PayPal or what you might want to do.

It's interesting because you've been directing and choreographing for decades. How do you keep your art evolving when the culture itself always keeps shifting so fast? Well, that's what's exciting because I'm with these young people all the time. And there's a new language every, you know, a couple of years and you have to, you know, I mean, the Afro beat right now is everything. I was, I have been Mariah Carey's creative director many times. And last year when I worked with Jenna Tompkins to do her show, I introduced the style of dance, the Afro beat, into the choreography. And it was amazing to do joy to the world with that style of dance. The dancers were on a respirator child with the first number because that Afro beat is serious.

Fast. Yeah. It's fast, but it takes a lot of energy to do it. And they loved it. So, that's what's beautiful. The nature of the universe has changed. And anybody that doesn't understand that, well, sorry. Tell them again.

What do you teach, or how do you teach the artist you work with, like a Mariah Carey or even like a Shanty. You've been working with her for some time, too, about longevity and as things change because things will change. Like, how do you teach them how to, you know, relevance and impact, like, what the career you have? Well, I don't think I have to teach Mariah Carey anything about, longevity. I mean, she's been the songbird for

so long and she's got a new album out and she is one of these creative geniuses who writes her music and I've never gone into a production where she didn't have an idea about what she thinks it is. So, I

don't know if that's, I mean, you're asking me about... I guess it's like the mentorship. Because even the way that people look at you and how you handle just anything you deal with and throughout your career, there's a lot coming your way because of who you are. Mariah Carey has a lot coming her way every day. I guess I'm

asking what the mentorship between you and these women are men that you're working with that are these big stars. What does that look like? It's very personal. It's very personal. I think part of what I bring wherever I'm working is a

motherhood, embrace, push, knowledge idea. I mean, I just just said a lot of things that, I don't know if you got all that, but I, when people work with me, they know that I come with a huge experience in many things. And sometimes it's very intimidating to people. I've had some battles that you would be surprised. And I think it

has a lot to do with my expertise and ability. I'm an executive producing director of Gray's anatomy we're in season 22 we you know shonda rhymes put me there to be an integral part of keeping that show in energetic and moving and i hire all the directors i hire new directors felicia rasha just became a director on gray's anatomy you're right about her yeah she's becoming director yeah she's a new one yeah we kind of we kind of like her but um their to work with incredible showrunner, make Marinus who

I read every outline I'm part of the casting and I've worked with DPs who are brilliant I produced the movie Amistad with Steven Spielberg which will always be a big big accomplishment for all of us

it's not just me for all of us to get that movie made. You'd be hard-pressed to do it today the way things are going but I have such a wealth of experience, that is a big thing that I bring. So I see things very quickly. Yes. I can make decisions very quickly.

You know, I'm here doing auditions for Joe Turner's come and gone, and I'm seeing such wonderful new talent that I had not known before. But even in that process, I can see immediately this one has the potential. This one is talented, but not. not right for this part. I mean, it's just experience. I love people who got an intention. You know, you said at four years old, you knew you wanted to do dance.

Yeah, I did. How did that lead to something like fame? Same? Yeah. Well, because I stayed the course and I went and studied and did the work. I've been taking dance class my whole life. I was here at the New York School of Ballet, Richard Thomas, John Boy on the Waltons. His dad and mom had the best ballet.

school here in New York, the New York School of Ballet, and I was like a little, you know, urchin trucking around the streets and bought my dance card, and in my class, I'd look up in Rudolf Nureyev would be in the class.

Or Mikhail Baryshnikov would be in the class. Margot Fontaine. These are icons in the world of ballet. And then, right across town, there's Alvinately. Wow.

Alvin Aylid, you know, you, I don't know. I think my effort has proven successful because I've always done the work. When you come up in the dance world, it's like being an athlete. That's why Kobe Bryant and I were friends. He loved dance, and we had a very good relationship. You train, train, train, train, train, train. You can't shoot enough. You can't practice enough, you know, jump shots, whatever they're, you know.

those drills that they do to stay in shape, you have to do the work. And this is something young people really need right now to understand that you don't get to get there and stay if you haven't done the work. Misty Copeland, oh my God, Misty Copeland, you know, she's retiring tomorrow night from the American Ballet Theater.

I will be on stage with her. She invited me to be on stage with her. But this is not an ending, but a beginning of what else she's going to do. But she trained, train, train, train, train, train. You know, I've had parents come in. You, your daughter's dancing. I've had parents say, well, my daughter, you know, she's just, Ms. Allen.

She just feels like, you know, she's doing the same thing all the time. I said, because she needs to. Yeah. She has to learn how to point that foot. Turn out. Passet. Damn it. You said you're on Kobe Wood.

Well, friends, how did y'all get tight? How did y'all get so cool? Well, Kobe actually grew up in Italy. Fame was one of the biggest shows internationally. Italy, I still can't walk down the street. It was that popular. So I came to a Laker game, and he was on the court, and he looked at me, and he was like, and I was like, I'm looking at him, like, oh, wow.

And then that admiration was there. And then years later, he actually. was interested in learning how to tap dance. Really? Did you teach him? Well, we didn't get to that, but we were going to get to that. And it was Michael Jackson's death that really kind of brought us closer because Michael was somebody that I was very close to.

And I was talking about Michael on television and saying he was, he practiced, practice. I said he was like Kobe Bryant. I said that in an interview. And then Kobe called me, said, Debbie, Michael and I were friends. So I was like, what? He and Michael had become friends. And so we started talking, and he was writing these incredible books, and we were making plans to turn one of his books into the most incredible Broadway show.

Oh, wow. We were making plans. He had a whole universe that he was creating with animators and composers. and he brought me in because he respected what I do and what we could do together and when we were building the Debbie Allen Dance Academy

which is now the Rhymes Performing Arts Center because Shonda Rimes gifted us the building which was amazing amazing but we had to raise a lot of money to build it and so we took a meeting and Kobe was the first one

he was he put a million dollars towards building the Debbie Allen Dance Academy and now we have a wall called the Kobe Bryant Wall a light that has all the donors in his name at the top of that and so

we had a lot of plans and he loved dance you know we is being an athlete to be a dancer so Kobe Bryant Wallace Annenberg Barry Gordy Shonda Rimes

the Ford Foundation they've been our big angels. Barbie is honoring you with your own tribute doll. What went through your mind when you first got that call? I'm assuming that you're getting your own Barbie doll. I know. It was like getting to Oscar. It was like, you know, because I grew up in Texas.

And we didn't have any dolls that looked like us at all. And I was big on playing with my dolls. And I knew about the Barbie tribute collection. And I was so excited when they made Shonda Rhymes of Barbie doll. And I was just loving that in Misty Copeland. But then when they called to say they wanted to make me one, I just was so touched because I knew this had more to do with young people than anybody. Although all my older friends are buying them up, child.

That's what I'm buying them up. But the kids, I showed this doll to some of the students in my school. I actually videotaped it. it was so precious they were so proud of it they all wanted it it looks like them somebody that looks like them that is dancing that's you know and so we worked on what she was going to look like and how she was going to dress and i i said let's dress her like fame because that's your idea yeah amazing let's do fame and it puts me in a one more realm of um history that is very humbling.

I got to ask, you know, this week coming up is Homecoming Week, right? A different world was the reason why I went to HBCU. I got to see it. I seen what it was, so I have to ask. She is not going to teach you a one-two-one-two to go do at the homecoming. A different world was based off of what college.

This is, every HBCU talks about it. Okay, so let me say this. A different world existed for a year before I got there. And I was brought in by the creative the executives to come and see what was wrong and fix it

and I did because I had that HBCU experience which none of the people there had I went to Howard University sorry for both of y'all because the University is where it's that sorry sorry I'm sorry Well Hampton is great

Hampton is messing with you just messing with you But you know Howard we were the school the first school to take over the A building, the school, because we were demanding black studies. We pulled up the gate and threw it on the dean's desk. Ewert Brown led us. I had my big Afro child, and I was all up in there.

It was all up in it. Two months later, you know, we didn't think about dying and nothing like that. The parents were sending us orange juice and boiled eggs and begging us to come out. We're going to come out when we get where we were. Then what, how many months later? Kent State did that and four kids were killed by the National Guard? What the hell?

We knew, say it loud, black and I'm proud was our anthem. We had Mary Mackeba coming. In the new podcast, Hell in Heaven, two young Americans moved to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead. The other tried for murder. Not once. People went wild.

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But little by little, their dream starts to crumble, and our couple retreat from reality. They lose it. They actually lose it. They sort of went nuts. Until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to hell in heaven on the I-Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The forces shaping the world's economies and financial markets can be hard to spot. Even though they are such a powerful player in finance, you wouldn't really know that you are interacting with them. And even harder to understand. Donald Trump's trade war, 2.0, is only accelerating the process of de-dollarization, which in a way is jargon for people turning away from the dollar. That is where the big take from Bloomberg podcast comes in, to connect the dots. How unusual is a deal like this? Unprecedented.

Every weekday afternoon, we dive deep into one big global business story. The biggest story of the reaction of the oil market to the conflict in the Middle East is one of what has not happened. Katie, you told me that ETFs are your favorite thing. They are. Explain that. Why is that the case? And unpack what it means for you.

Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples, and so they sort of become outsized indicators of inflation. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here we go. Hey, I'm Cal Penn. and on my new podcast, here we go again. We'll take today's trends and headlines and ask,

why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture. And each week, one of them will be joining me

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The Crying Wolf Podcast is the story of two men bound by injustice, of a city haunted by its secrets, and the quest for redemption, no matter the price. White victim, female, pretty, wealthy, black defendant. Chicago, a white woman's murder, a black man behind bars. for a crime he didn't commit. I had 90 years for killing somebody I have never seen. He says the police are his friends and then that's it. They turn on it.

A corrupt detective. How he was interrogated the techniques. That's crazy. A snitch and a life stolen. They got the wrong guy. But on the inside, Lee Harris finds an ally in his celly, Robert,

who swears to tell the truth about what happened to Lee and free his friend. And if you're with me, your goal to, I'll take care of you. I'm going to be with you. You stuck with me for life. Listen to the Crying Wolf podcast starting on October 22nd on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

We had Stokely, Carmichael, named them. They all came to Howard. We were in Washington, D.C. Wow. So coming into a different world, we could no longer. do shows about people walking around holding eggs. We had to do shows that were culturally relevant, socially responsible, and still a lot of fun. And we did that. And so Susan Fails Hill, she is one of the most incredible writers on this planet. She was the showrunner

with a real book of all of when we did L.A. Rias, Mammy Dearest, all those shows that. that are so memorable. It starts with the writing. And Susan and who else was in that writing room? Gina Prince Bythwood, Reggie Bythwood. They were all in the writer's room, along with Yvette Lee Browser, who, you know, she is. Other, there was so much talent and energy.

And she, um, together we just engaged. And I was always in the principal's office, I say. I was always called into the network. Really? Oh, God. Oh, my God. Y'all have no idea what I had to go through and still. And still.

What were there upsets? Why were they calling you in? Oh, because. You took it from a sitcom to a social movement. Yeah. Yeah. You know, because we did the first show about AIDS. Whoopi Goldberg.

I knew Whoop was going to win that Oscar. She's been my friend forever. I said, Whoopi, would you come? Debbie, you know I'm there. She came. I had her. They didn't care. I said, AIDS is killing our people, your people, everybody, we need to do this, doing shows about date rape, what, you know, I was just always called into the office.

Why do we have to do? Why do, I said, child, we can't just talk about, you know, somebody bumping in a corner. We're going to do some of that, too. So what's your process for, I guess, how do you tell hard truths and still keep it entertaining, basically? Because that's the way the world is. In the middle of all this, you'll find something to laugh about it. In the middle of this You'll see somebody

You want to kiss Yeah That riot is happening But ooh baby Look at that boy over there Who is that You know Real life doesn't stop

Because of It will stop you It makes you think And have to talk And address But It goes on Miss Debbie Allen

Has to leave as well too guys Yes she does Okay You got a last one I do have a last one You know what I mean Like fame Fame showed what art could

be, right? And a different world showed what education could be. How do you think your work has shaped how young people now see the intersection between art and intellect and activism? You know, there's such a good question and I appreciate that question because Netflix just rebooted a different

world, the original on and a lot of people are talking to me and asking me, but the mind of young people, the curiosity is what you want. You want them to be curious and I think when they see these shows

when they see me and I make myself accessible they feel like they could do something too. That is really that's what it's about. They could do something to do I'm still learning. I'm still at this right old age I'm getting ready to direct August

Wilson's Joe Turner's come and gone on Broadway in the spring and I am in school because you can't come up there. It's like you can't direct Shakespeare if you don't understand the language The period. I am up in the August Wilson School of Thought

Deep, deep, deep, deep. So by the time we open in April, that show's going to be amazing. Ooh, I can't wait. It's going to be a child ticks to go on sale November 5th. I have to say that out loud. Brian Morland

who actually produced Othello, Denzel's Othello, is our producer. Amazing. But I'm just saying, I'm still in school. So I'm putting together a whole packet of information about 1911. What was happening? What was the music? Who was president?

What was happening in Europe? You've got to know all of these things. What was happening in Pittsburgh? Where were we with the Great Migration? Where are we with emancipation? Where are we legally with civil rights? You've got to do the work. That's right.

And I am still doing the work. Ms. Debbie Allen, have you ever taught a proper twerk? I just want to know. I don't know. Through all your lessons, no, you need help. Through all your lessons, I just want to know, like, have you ever taught twerkage ever? I love that. Well, you know, I don't know if I've taught it, but my husband is always on me to stop doing it.

That's how I guess. So you're twirled, you can twirking. Yes, I know, that's right. Why you've been married so long, okay? That was the secret. I love it. You got to tell you. Stop.

Stop. I know. He doesn't want me to do it in public. I can do it in the bedroom. I can do it at home, but not out. Yes, ma'am. Okay. That's all I am.

Thank you. We appreciate you for joining us. If you're out and about, make sure you pick up her Barbie doll. Also, donate to the school. Yes. And thank you so much. And please don't be a stranger.

Anytime you in the city, pull up on us. Yes. I'll be coming back here to direct that player. I come and visit y'all. Yes, man. Thank you. I love her always. I will definitely be there to see that.

Me too. Yes, absolutely. It's Miss Debbie Allen. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Debbie Allen kissed me twice, y'all. Debbie Allen kissed me twice yesterday. Yeah, like somebody, aunt.

Don't make a thing like she kissed you because you were so handsome. That's what I mean. No, but that's what I'm talking about. All right. But don't put that narrative over the radio later. And she told me that was so sweet. All the older women that come up here always think you're sweet and you are not. That is a lie.

Yo, yo, yeah. Guys, I don't want to hear nothing from Brand to convicts. Somebody said, I looked like a high school scene. you're dressed up. You definitely did. I'm ready. I'm just ready for homecoming. You got a game tonight. That's how they would dress when they had a game. Yeah, you do look like you would get killed in a horror movie.

Oh my God, yes you do. Take a white girl to the top of the hill. And you'll die first, too. No, they'll be behind the bleachers. Oh, my God. That's true. Let's get to the latest with Lauren, man. Lauren becoming a straight fat.

Tell us. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the detail. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this. Say, say, I'm the things. The latest with Lauren La Rosa Sometimes you have facts

Sometimes you have details Sometimes you have a little bit everything Well it's the latest On the breakfast club Talk to me LL Cool Bay Yes What you was about to say something

I thought he was Yeah No go ahead Brandon He agrees the only bad child All right so Michael Jordan He hasn't held a TV role since Stepping away from his Basketball Hall of Fame career

Until now So last night He debuted as a special contributor For NBA on NBC which is celebrating NBC's return to NBA broadcasting for the first time over 20 years. Michael Jordan.

Michael Jordan. Yes, Michael Jordan. I seen an interview, yeah. Yes. So he made a debut last night as a part of the opening night of the NBA. The Houston Rockets played Oklahoma City Thunder. And during halftime,

they aired a special sit-down that NBC created called MJ Insights into Excellence. It's hosted by the NBC commentator, Mike Torrico. And during this conversation, Jordan basically talks basketball. But you guys know he stays out of the spotlight, like purposely stays out of the spotlight,

which he's talked about. So they begin to talk to him in this first part of the series about why he's stepping back into the spotlight now and talking basketball. Let's take a listen. Why do you want to share what you're thinking about basketball now? It's paying for it. You know, I have the obligation to the game of basketball.

Not financially. I'm okay. I mean, I think more or less from as a basketball player is to be able to pass on messages of success and dedication to the game of basketball. Still love it. Love it like you wouldn't believe. I mean, in all honesty, I wish I can take a magic pill,

put on shorts, and go out and play the game of basketball today. Because that's who I am. That type of competition, that type of competitiveness is what I live for. And I miss it. I miss that aspect of playing the game of basketball. Being able to challenge myself against what people see as great basketball, but it's better for me to be sitting here talking to you as opposed to popping my Achilles

and I'm in a wheelchair for a while. So he's not going to be on, like, his Tom Brady where he's, like, calling games and stuff like that. I thought it was going to be like that, too, but it is a series that they've created and it'll be different parts. The next part actually airs on October 28th. But he'll be talking basketball

and about, like, where the league and every NBA and all the things are now. They also talked to him, though, about the last time he actually picked up a basketball. He said it's been years. I'll take a listen. Do you ever, do you ever pick up a ball on this shoot? I haven't picked up a ball in years.

No, come on. Just like walk past. There's got to be a hoop somewhere at your place. You don't see a hoop anywhere around here, right? I don't. Seriously, the last time you picked up a basketball and shot. I was at the right of cup, and I rented a house from the owner. Sure.

He came over to do pictures and had grandkids, and I was meet and greet and thank him for allowing me to stay in the house. And he had a basketball court. He says, I want you to shoot one free throw. I said, really. So when I stepped up to shoot the free throw, It's the most nervous I've been in years. Stop it. The reason being is those kids heard the stories from the parents about what I did 30 years ago.

Right. So their expectation is 30 years prior, and I haven't touched the basketball. I hope you switched it. Absolutely. I got the most gratifying event that made my whole week is that I was able to please that kid. Can you imagine if he didn't make it and they had Michael Jordan all over TikTok not making the shots? Who gives a damn? I mean, Michael's...

I mean, you got the last dance. But I love that conversation, you know. And it shows how competitive he is that he said, yeah, I missed the game. I want to get back. I want to put them shorts in that jersey back on and bust these young boys' ass. But, I mean, you miss Michael Jordan in this game. I do anyway. How much is Michael Jordan getting paid?

And what did we just listen to? Because I was confused. You thought that... He was going to be sideline, right? Or at least, yeah, doing color and time during the game, like how Tom Brady does on Sunday. Nah, this was like half-time conversation. Like during halftime, instead of they

go into the halftime performance, they went to a conversation, part of a conversation with Michael Jordan. It was pretty good, though. Whatever they was giving them the drink during the last dance, they need to give them back. Because when he was doing the talking head on the last dance, he was phenomenal. Okay, that right there was, you know, nah. He was just laid back in show. Give him some brown looking. The eyes

ain't even, his eyes wasn't even right. They were. They were. They were. Yeah, they were. Oh, okay. No, I don't know. What do you mean? Maybe read? For no reason? Listen, whoever was doing the talking head stuff during the last dance, that's who they need there talking to MJ, because MJ was giving it up during the last dance. That right there was nothing.

This is only the first part, so maybe he's going to get more into, like, some other things. He was giving it up. Yeah. And also, I don't want to watch the NBA and hear about MJ all day. What you mean? If I'm watching games, that came on during halftime of the game. Yeah, I want to hear about him talk about the game.

I don't want to hear him talk about him. But that was pre-takes, no. But if Mello was there, Mello was there. He was talking to the game. and they got their rings last night. O.K.C. got their rings last night. I get what you saying, though, Charlemagne. I definitely give what you saying.

So that's going to be at every game? I don't know how many parts the series is. I just know it's several parts. And the next one is airing out on October 28th. Yeah. And they'll be talking about load management. Yeah. Okay.

Just you going to watch? No. Oh, exactly. All right. Well, as we wrap up, do I have time for one more? Why not? Yes. So, free and AJ, 106 and Park.

former one or six apart. They are on the Tom Joyner, Fantastic Voyage crews, and Free, they were having a conversation with some of the audience there, and Free talks about a moment that she almost shared with Aaliyah

that she's never talked about before. Let's take a listen. So I was asked by Aaliyah to go on the video shoot, the video shoot, but the days got switched up with her schedule, and I had to host

a Tampax Total U-Tor in L.A with the Great Queen Latipa and Sister Soldier. And because I had to be there, and they switched the schedule, I couldn't make it to the thing. So when that came across the TV, knowing that, well, I wasn't going to let her leave me on a island. I've definitely been aware of her. It's just something I really held.

Her mom and I have discussed it, and it's just something I like. So, yeah, Alia, because Alia, you know? So I shared that. I felt safe space. Thank you y'all for allowing me to speak that out loud. I've never spoken that out loud. Thank you. Yeah, so that clip was circulating yesterday.

and on this cruise and even in that conversation they're talking about like the some of like the highlights of their careers things that they won't will never forget from their careers but the cruise itself just brings together like a certain era of like entertainment and feel good. You're explaining the cruise songs?

I'm explaining it to people listening who may not know about the Unks I know y'all know you probably went have y'all been on the Tom Cruise? I have not. Okay I heard it was a thing back in the time joining cruise outfit right now. And I too. The aunties be looking just like you on the time joint crew. Listen they said the crew

She was a time. Fake snake skin. Mm-hmm. Bathe and Susan they'd be having fun at sea, fun on land. They got Neo, Cat Williams, Mary Mary, Tyree's, Cheryl Underwood.

The cruise is a time, that's a time, but. Tom Jordan, I've been doing this forever. Yeah. Salute to the legend. Yeah, salute to the eyes. I remember I used to hear on the radio

when I was young. I was right. Legend comes to this radio thing. Yes. All right. Well, that is the latest with Lauren. Oh, happy birthday to Jeff Goldblum, y'all.

Y'all know him? Mm-mm. The Jurassic Parkman, the one, the Fly, remember? He played the collector in the Marvel series. Salute to him. It's his birthday. Okay, happy birthday. I just watched Fly last night.

Okay, she's right. That's our dad just watched it last night. It came out in 1986. All right. And don't forget, you can just stream us on the chat. We're on Twitch. It's Breakfast Club AM, so head over to the chat. On the chat, they said, we look like college students.

They didn't say we. Yes, it did. And they said Lauren looked like somebody, mama. She? is it giving like mama with a 401k or like what type of mama like responsible mom like i drop my kids off they said just love the club mama but don't you know what you're giving the donkey too man four after the hour man we need president trump to come to the front of the congregation uh there's a few things we should bring to america's attention on this fine wednesday all right yo um yo come on yo relax you're not the only one at work here what you got flight i'm just saying trying to keep a job we're not going to have no damn job dealing with this nigga yo We work for Black.

We all still work? Yeah, we'll work for Black Effect. If I'm not here, y'all still work. You got us, your hires? Black effect, he really shutting that down. He's coming right out just because of the name. It's the breakfast club. Good morning.

Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States. Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners when somebody disrespects our flag? To say, get that son of a bitch off the field right now out. He's fired. He's fired. He's fired. Please step up to the congregation. Yes, you are a doubt.

When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. These are jackass. Listen, donkey of the day for Wednesday, October 22nd, goes to our 5th and 47th president of the United States of America, Donald J. Trump. There's a few things I would like to bring to America's attention. I mean, we are on the third week of a government shutdown.

On day 21, I believe, okay, the second longest government shut down in American history. The longest was under the first Trump administration. That was for 35 days, and there seems to be no end in sight. Okay, keep in mind, this is the man who promised economic change on day one. Okay, he said grocery prices, inflation, more money in Americans' pockets on day one. Okay, in January, during his inaugural address, Trump promised to put America first. Okay, and he said he would usher in a new golden age for American families. We are 10 months in

and if you ask me, his policies have made things worse for American families. Are you living your life like it's golden? Huh? Huh? Am I making this up? His administration's signature legislation is delivering the largest Medicaid cuts in U.S. history. 15 million people will lose health care coverage, not to mention

taking food assistance from kids, seniors, people with disabilities. His nut-ass trade policies have made the cost of living in America worse. Some studies show a $1,300 tax. increase per household this year and the longer the government shutdown drags on essential services are stopped and hundreds of thousands of federal

workers aren't making no paper okay no money whatsoever oh and did I tell you that snap benefits will also stop because of the government shutdown 42 million people are at risk of losing their food stamps because of the government shutdown why am I telling you all these things I'm telling you all these things because when President Trump said it was going to be a golden age He wasn't talking about you. Okay, he was talking about the rich, all right, the tax cuts for the rich and bailouts for the rich. First of all, yesterday it was reported that President Trump plans to demand that his Justice Department pay him $230 million over the past investigations into him.

I can't make this kind of stuff up. Let's listen. But look, what they did, they rigged the election. And as you know, we had in one case, 60 minutes had to pay us a lot of money. George Slopidopoulos had to pass a lot of money. They already paid, you know, they paid me a lot of money because what they did was wrong. And, you know, when somebody does what's wrong. Now, with the country, it's interesting because I'm the one that makes a decision, right?

And, you know, that decision would have to go across my desk. And it's awfully strange to make a decision where I'm paying myself. In other words, did you ever have one of those cases where you have to decide how much you're paying yourself in damages? No. But I was damaged very greatly. Any money that I would get, I would give to charity. I'm going to tell you something. If he wasn't the president, he'd be one of my favorite supervillains.

Okay, the man is asking for reparations for himself, all right? And he's going to get it. Why? Because the senior department officials he's asking were defense lawyers for him. And now they are in jobs that typically must approve any payout. Do I have to tell you that this is a conflict of interest? Do you care if you are a Trump supporter that you might be starving right now? You have no idea how you're going to pay your bills

right now but he is about to pay himself whatever the hell he wants but it's going to be $230 million dollars listen okay that $250 million white house ballroom that Trump is getting built isn't going to pay itself but don't worry Trump said he's using some of his own money for the white house ballroom but he hasn't said how much and Trump says the project will be paid for with private donations and that no public money will be spent on the ballroom so if we're keeping score that's $480 million right okay so let's Let's just say you're a Trump supporter. Your defense will probably be well.

The investigations against Trump is BS. So he should get reparations for what the government did to him. Never mind. It's unethical. Never mind. He's essentially paying himself. Whatever. And then with the ballroom, I'm sure you will say, well, that's not taxpayer dollars, okay? Well, what about this one? A $20 billion payout for Argentina.

You heard me? A $20 billion bailout for Argentina. 9 news for the report, please. President Trump is now considering doubling his promised bailout to Argentina to 40 billion dollars. The move is now drawing criticism from both sides of the aisle. Trump praised Argentina's president during his visit to the White House, calling him MAGA all the way. The president's words. The president initially promised a $20 billion aid package to help Argentina's struggling economy. But Treasury officials confirmed another $20 billion

is now being discussed. Secretary Scott Besson says, the U.S. would exchange dollars for pesos, and Argentina would pay it back. However, with Argentina's history of debt faults, debt defaults, many in Washington are still skeptical. It doesn't make a lot of sense. You have to borrow the money from China to send it to Argentina. Rather than fix the health care crisis, devastating Americans here at home, Trump's doubling down on sending $40 billion to a right-wing MAGA strong man in Argentina. Treasury Secretary clarified that that extra money would come from the private sector, not from taxpayers.

Bailouts for another country's economy? At a time like this, is our economy flourishing? Is our economy booming? I thought it was make America great again, but apparently America has been replaced with Argentina, okay? My fellow Americans, I ask a simple question, what is America first about sending $20 billion to another country while Americans are suffering? Now, some people say Trump is just using U.S.

funds to influence a foreign election, which would definitely be a misuse of public money. Are tax dollars going to influence another country's election? Come on now. Now, I want to put a button on this thing by letting you know that U.S. farmers who have been shut out of China's soybean market because of Trump's trade war are really hurting. But when asked about the American farmers who feel like he's prioritizing Argentine farmers more than them, he had this to say. My question is, what do you have to say to U.S.

farmers who feel that the deal is benefiting Argentina more than it is them, as they are. Argentina is fighting for its life, young lady. You don't know anything about it. They're fighting for their life. Nothing is benefiting Argentina. They're fighting for their life. You understand what that means? They have no money.

They have no anything. They're fighting so hard to survive. If I can help them survive in a free world, I happen to like the president of Argentina. I think he's trying to do the best he can, but don't make it sound like they're doing great. die. Jesus Christ, our American farmers not fighting for their life. Our average everyday Americans not fighting for their life. What is benefiting Americans right now about what's going on in America? Do Americans have money? Huh? How is just making America great again? How is just America first? I just need you all to know that the only thing President Trump cares to make

great is his bank account. Okay? The only thing he puts first is himself. And I'm just here to make you aware of what's going on. Argue amongst yourself. because I'm not going back and forth with none of you MagaBots on social media today. Please get President Donald J. Trump, the biggest he-ho. All right. I don't even know how you can argue any of that. But I'm sure Maga supporters will find a way.

All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of today. Now, when we come back from a former from Housewives of Beverly Hills and now she's in a new movie taken at the truck stop, a black girl missing movie. We're going to talk to Garcelle Bouvet when we come back. That's a just hilarious love store. Yeah, right. I did not

me him in no damn truck stop. No, I didn't. He was on a break. No, I was not allowed to say. He met him at a truck stop. No, I did not meet him at a truck stop sucking on a lollip. Wow. That's so romantic. No. By N.V. Shut up. All right. We'll talk to when we come back. It's the breakfast club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envi. Just hilarious. Shalame Naga. We are the breakfast club. La Rosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Envy just insulted her for no reason. I did not. That was so disrespectful.

It was so ridiculous and out of pocket for no goddamn reason. Oh, damn. Gorsal Bouvae is here. Welcome. And I didn't mean to offend you. She said, envy, how's your family? That's in mind, good.

How is yours? She said, the boys are 18. I said, they get old. No, that's not what you said. You said, you get old. He said, you get old. I met the boys are getting old. God, damn.

Lord Jesus. Luckily, I'm not that sensitive. I was talking about the boys. Okay, I believe you. Well, wine gets better with time. Thank you. And you are fine wine. Thank you. I appreciate that. How are you feeling? I'm feeling really good. I'm really in a great

place. Work is you know, pop in. I have this great new movie that's coming out and I'm producing. It's been really, really fun. Do you miss housewives at all? No. So you're not coming back at all? Not anytime soon. Wow. No. I mean, it was great.

It was great in terms of like I got a new audience and there were really wonderful things that happened because of the show. But I think my time was up. Yeah. So why did you leave? Because your time was up or was it contracts? Was it one more money?

No, nothing like that. I just couldn't do it anymore. It was really hurting my spirit. I just couldn't do it. Yeah, that was really it. People try to put you and pit you and Bose against each other and they thought that was the reason. I don't know why.

No, not at all. Not at all. I mean, I met with Bose prior to her coming onto the show. show for lunch we got along great so no it wasn't anything like that it was just i couldn't physically mentally spiritually do it anymore i'm being on discernment how do you know especially in this business yeah something does not agree with your spirit you know what i've been really great about choosing me when when i'm when i'm faced with something i've done it with you know relationships i've done it in other places where i felt like you know what if i don't choose me it will probably not

work out for me. Wow. Yeah. So, yeah, I have faith and I just knew it was time. Yeah. Now, what is Sutton going to do without you? Girl, I don't know. That's on earth.

You've heard support, you know, in a lot of ways. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're on your own now, Sutton. My bad. When we had Bowles up here, I'd asked her about the unfollowing on Instagram because that became a whole thing. You unfollowed some of the ladies. All the ladies.

All the ladies. When I left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I left. And, I mean, the fans were, commenting why they thought it happened. And she said that she thought maybe it was just like, you know, you go through a breakup,

you just want to get rid of everything. That's exactly right. What was the reason? I just needed space. I just didn't, you know, if you're, I follow people who I want to see what they're doing and I want to support. And if, you know, in my life,

I don't see why I need to follow you. I don't want to see what they're doing. No, I don't care. There's no need for it. There was also the thing, too. Erica Jane and Bowles were on Watch What Happens Live and Andy asked about you not returning to the show. Did you see that clip?

I saw the clip, yeah. How did you feel about the answers? Mean girls. That's all. But was the clip because me and Shalaman, look at each other like, I don't know what that clue was. So basically he asked about how they felt about Grissel not returned to the show and they were silent. And it was like nobody wanted to say anything. And then when someone, when Erica said something, it was like, won't he do it?

Like, you know, it was like a, there was a weird pause and we were trying to figure out what that meant. And the fans hopped in the comments when Bose were here and said that there was no support from her to you. She said that that wasn't true. But do you feel like she supported you through that season? I really don't want to go back there, honestly. I'm here for my movie. I'm producing. I'm selling shows.

I just would like to stay on a positive note. I just want to apologize for my co-host. I mean, one of them called you. Oh, now they're going to bother you with housewise questions. You're not here to promote two movies. This is crazy. I don't know what's going on. How many times you go places and people are like,

I think we attach to you so much on the show because we're in your life. We're still going. And that's what I mean. We're just talking about it. We're fans of you and we miss you on the show. Thank you. I appreciate that. I understand what you're, you know, I understand.

It's also your job. That ain't me. I'm still attached to fancy. Oh, I know. And I know that you probably like, look, I ain't fancy no more either, but you always loved. I loved. I loved that character.

I loved that job. Like, I had never really done comedy and meeting Jamie and, you know, us having instant chemistry. And we thought if we did 13 episodes, we would have been golden. We ended up doing 100 episodes. Like, I mean, it's unbelievable. I can't go anywhere without someone saying fancy. He says when he's out there, they're like, where's fancy?

So it's like, people connected with that. And that's a great thing. That's how it was when you walked in the room. I don't know if you heard me. I was like, oh, shit. Right? It's like, when you walk in, I'm like, goodness is. Damn, I can't wait to bombard her with housewives questions.

That's true. He's not going to let it go. But God did it. God is doing it because you have not only one movie, you have two films, but you're up here for taking that a trust time, which also your production company actually shot that as well. Yes.

That's amazing. Congratulations. Thank you so much. I mean, doing this franchise, Black Girl Missing Franchise, has been an amazing thing. And that's what I'm so grateful for, for getting the platform to be able to put out things that I think will help our community, help us. And I was sick and tired

of seeing the disparity of when black and brown people go missing that we weren't getting the same coverage. We weren't getting the same urgency or validation. And we put out this movie, the first one, thinking that, okay, if we can get people to talk about it, that's a good thing. And then the

numbers went through the roof, and it was trending on Twitter at the time. And now we're on to movie three. So it's been really amazing and meeting amazing journalists who say, you know what, we take accountability too. Because we can tell you who the John Benet's are, the

Gabby Petito's, you know, the Natalie Holloways. But we can't tell you the names of the black girls because we're not featured like that. And that's what we want people to do is to know who we are when we go missing. The black girl missing movie subtitle is very intentional. Yes, very intentional.

Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm sure you did a deep dive into a lot of the young black girls that are missing. If you can't break it down, because I'm a father of four girls. Yes. Where is the biggest place that these girls are taken for?

In what reason? Is it the mall? Is it bus stops? Is it coming from school? Like, what is the biggest so I can be on more anxiety? Yeah, it's actually everywhere. It's actually everywhere. The second movie we did was called Abducted at an HBCU.

And we're really trying to teach the, you know, not only girls, but boys too. Like when you're in college, build a community, you know, so that if you don't show up for classes for three days, somebody's going to go, we're so-and-so. Like, it's about having a community, but it's also ringing the bell. And my niece has girls in college, and she was like, you're scaring me. with your movies. And I go, I'm trying to scare you, you know, just so that we're all aware. So it can happen anywhere. The malls, there are guys that groom the girls.

I mean, there's all kinds of ways of these girls going missing. I mean, I was just in Vegas at the airport, and I went to the bathroom. The minute I closed the stall, there's a whole sign about if you're being abducted, if you're being trafficked. So it's everywhere. I was in Alabama this weekend. I took a picture because I just thought it was, it wasn't strange, but one of them was like, if you're with somebody who wants to offer you money, I was like, what?

Yeah. Yeah. And they also target girls who, you know, sometimes are more vulnerable. And maybe there's, you know, people at home are working. So she's alone a lot. There's, you know, all types of ways. So. I just took that. How about that? Yeah. You said, didn't they ask you one time when you was with your daughter? Then they asked you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was on the plane. And somebody came on the plane. It's like, is that your daughter? And I'm like, I hope so. Yeah. But I'm actually glad they're asking, right? Just because it's so. prevalent when we are you know not everyone's aware of that yeah in this movie um you talk about community in this movie your community your truck community shows up for you in a big way and it's through like nothing i don't want to give it away but they show for you in a big way yeah what's the importance of uh not finding community but knowing how to utilize it best in a high-stakes

situation like once someone goes missing and the cops won't help you right and that okay that's one of the things i will answer your question but like a lot of families have to take it upon themselves to look for their family members because they're not getting the support they need. So with the trucking community, by the way, there's a, there's a, in the new podcast, Hell in Heaven, two young Americans moved to the Costa Rican jungle to start over, but one will end up dead. The other tried for murder. Not once. People went wild. Not twice. Stunned. But three times. John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive, and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill. But little by

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They're alone. They're missing out on birthdays and anniversaries. And their job is dangerous. So we wanted to showcase that there's a community in every sector of life. No matter what you're doing, no matter what your profession is. It's like let people know, you know, that you're around. Yeah. I want if the female truckers call them men, they pick up lock lizards.

Are that just... There is that. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That is a thing. But you know what? I learned a lot. Like, these truckers when they go to the truck stops up. Just his husband's a truck driver.

That's why she's looking like that. But he is so... Narrow-minded. Oh, how long have you all been together? No, I'm talking about this man sent the cross to me and narrow-minded. Oh, shit, you're talking about your husband. No, I'm talking about this man. That's all the war.

I'm not going to be together. No, no, no. But you weren't a lot of lizards, yes? No, I was not a lot of lizard. No, all the lot of lizards were, they were before me. Got you, that's good. Go ahead. I'm sorry, Mr. O'clock.

No, but tell me about your husband, though. How long has he been doing it? So, he's been in the business for five years. Okay. Whatever. But, like, I met him three years ago. So I was, he was, like, two years into it when I met him. And, yeah, you know, he had a couple of a lot,

is his hand there, you know, but when I came in, they laughed. Okay. That's great. Yeah. I just wanted to know what female truck drivers call the men that they pick up. That's all. You know what? I don't know if they have a name for them. I'm really sure she didn't do that research to do this movie. It's not it. And how do you deal with him being on the road?

I'm still trying to deal with it. Okay. You know, because the schedule, with my schedule and his schedule, we're trying to figure out like how we can balance. And then we have a one-year-old. Oh, you do. They're still trying to balance that and still trying to be full-time lovers. That's very hard. Very hard.

You should. And he's Mexican, so you know what everything going on in the world. Yo, Garcerra's face. It's like, why did I come this morning? I was in a happy one. We love you. Are you talking about ice? Yes.

That's scary for everybody. It's scary for everyone. No, death husband's not really running from ice, right? No, he's not. Oh, my. No, but it doesn't matter. You don't have to run. No.

They're profiling you. Yeah. Even if you're a citizen. Yeah, it is sad. Yeah. That's sad. horrible place to be. Oh, Lord. But that's another topic. Why was it important to add

the element of dealing with an autistic family member? We really wanted to, there's so much misconceptions about autism and what that looks like and what that is and obviously there's different, you know, there's different stages of autism.

So we really wanted to showcase a character that is functioning, but that doesn't mean that just because she has autism, that she's irresponsible. Yeah. And But what happened was because she's autistic, she's dealing with somebody online. And, you know, we all share too much,

and she shared too much. And so then she gets taken, kidnapped. So, yeah, it was important for us to. What do you want people, the family members and the friends of people who may have been abducted and, you know, have went through these experiences?

Their family members and friends, there's a level of, like, guilt that can happen sometimes in those situations. What do you want them, the message for them to take from the movie? the message is really is that we want them to be seen we want them to get help and I think you know things happen you can't feel guilty for that you know I think no matter how well you watch your kids I mean things are going to happen in life right but it's really about this movie is starting a conversation making sure the families that have missing family members know that they're being seen and that they should be helped just like everybody else and I'm not saying we don't need to help other people I'm just saying we don't need to help other people I'm just saying, I want us to have the same urgency, the same compassion. Don't say let's

wait for two days. They'll come back because we all know the first 48 hours the most crucial. Don't say, oh, they're on drugs, they're runaways. Like, give us the benefit of the doubt as well. That's important to me. One of the worst places that I've witnessed was L.A. If there's a missing

person, it seems like they will wait to the last minute. It got to the point where my wife's friend, she actually passed, but we were calling and calling, please go by the house. Check the house. They were like, we're too busy. We're too busy. We're too busy. I'm sitting there like,

there's a possibility that you could save somebody. Right. And it was just like, no, we're too busy, too busy. We had to get a family member to actually go out there and actually check. But I mean, I'm sure you experienced that a lot when doing that homework. Yeah, it's opened my eyes a lot, which is why we need to keep doing this. We need to keep talking about it. And hopefully one day we won't have to. Yeah, Kevin Hart and I put out a project called Finding Tamika.

It was about a younger named Tamika, Houston, who went missing in the early 2000. in Spartanburg, and you know, you learn that black girls and women get less media attention when abducted compared to white victims. Like, this is actual data studies. They call it Missing White Woman Syndrome. Yeah. Actually. Yeah, there's a big publication

that just did a 10-page spread on John Bonae, Ramsey, who's been dead 20 years, and we've never had anything like that. I don't know if you've been seeing the news about, Katie Scott, the young girl who was found dead in Philly. I remember when her story first

broke. It was only, I was watching it on like the local and my grandmother called me about it. And then I remember I started seeing other outlets pick it up slowly. Yeah. But it was just you know, just seeing, when I was watching the movie yesterday, I thought about her story because it was, it took some time for people who'd even know what was happening with her. And they were begging for the public to help and they needed help to find her. Right. Or even the documentary, I just watched not too long ago of Where's Amy Bradley? Amy Bradley, yes, been missing for what? It would be now for like 20 years.

years, you know, and, but not, no slight to her and her family or anything like that, but it's like, we don't get documents. People don't look for us that long, you know, if they ever do. They just move on. So, yeah, that's definitely decided. Thank you for giving me the time because you guys have a great platform and we want everybody to watch this movie and let's keep talking about it. Absolutely.

I said, like, I need to get the . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . can you, I don't know why you didn't end up on the view. Oh, well, they just went another way, I'm sure. Because I can listen to you talk all day. When is tempted to love coming out? January 31st. January 31st. Yeah, when it's the first one out, I'm like, okay, when it's tempted to

move coming on board. Okay. I like my job. I know that's right. How about if I come on a button on a minute? You know, so we appreciate she's like, enough enough man this one started jumping my film this is like enough we appreciate you thank you thank you definitely check out taken at a truck stop comes on the 25th of this month that's what

saturday saturday saturday definitely check it out and thank you so much thank you it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club latest on this. The latest with Lauren La Rosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest. On the breakfast club.

Talk to me. All right, so gospel singer Fred Hemman has had to come out in defense of a bishop, a bishop named Marvin Wayans. Wayans. I'm saying the last name wrong. Is it Wyens? Yes, Marvin Weinens. Marvin Weinens, who is, he is in relation to CCBB, the whole big gospel family.

You know Marvin Wine. Yes. I thought you was talking about Marlon Wayne. No, I just, no. Once I say it wrong, it sticks in my mind wrong. So do you have to say it right to me for me to be able to say it right? But thank you. All right.

All right. Oh, my God. I was about to say here, Mom. It's all right, whining. I was about God. Just going about God. Let the Lord rebupe the. Okay.

So he is in trouble or was in trouble. And Fred Ham had to come out and defend him because there was a video that went viral from a giving service that they had last Sunday. So he serves at a church called perfecting church in Detroit and they had its annual giving day and they were, he was asking people of the church of the church community to donate $1,000 toward the rebuilding and, you know, the continued structuring of the church. A thousand dollars at a time like this? And to additionally, you know, get other money donated from other, you know, people outside of the church. So let's take a listen to what went viral because he was under fire for people thinking that he rebuked a woman who didn't come. with a certain amount of money.

Let's take a listen. Hi, Roberta McCoy, giving faith and stand in unity with the vision of perfecting church of sowing this seed of $1,000 plus $235 and receiving the blessings to come to all that participated. Now, that's only $1,200. Yes. Y'all not listening to what I'm saying. If you have a thousand plus a thousand.

Okay. Well, I'm going to work on the other $800. Well, that ain't what I ask you to do. So Fred Heyman is like, well, it's like that sounded crazy. Yeah, definitely did. So listen. It sounds crazy. It does sound crazy when you hear it just cut up like that and it went viral that way.

But if you go back and listen to the full church service and the instruction, what was happening is he had people line up in a certain order. What he's telling her not that her money isn't good enough is that she came in the wrong order. And there was so many people that lined up. He was trying to keep it structured. So let's take a listen to his original instruction. We're going to do this a couple of ways. Those that have the thousand plus one. That means you're coming with your thousand that you're giving,

plus you've asked someone else to give. Now, you don't have to stop at a thousand and we're going to deal. So in other words, if you say, Pastor Winans, I'm coming with my thousand plus, another 3,000, then you'll say that. You understand? And if you didn't get plus one, but you maybe came with $250. You're going to come say that. This is my thousand plus 250. You're with me? And we're going to go all the way down. So I need you in order for this to work. I need you to come when you're called with the offering that you're bringing. You still confused? I disagree with all of it.

She did it wrong, but it still sounds nasty. Yeah, I don't think you should put a number on it. Just let people donate. Let people know what it is that you need, right? He said he needs something for the church. And then people donate whatever it is, they can donate. I don't think he should put a number on it or line people up and say people with a thousand go here and people would just go here. That's what it seemed like.

Yeah. Just let people donate. I guess he's going to look at it that I was trying to shout them out for giving that money. But like Charlemagne said it, it shouldn't matter. It shouldn't matter what you're giving. If I have it $700 to give and I give $700 and that's my last, you should be grateful. Well, he said, so Fred Heyman, when he came out and defended this, he said organizations and churches raise money for their own all the time. Let them do what they do, basically. And I just was taken out of context. But Ms. Roberta McCoy, who was the woman that you guys heard in the clip and Pastor Winens, cleared this up with a local news affiliate because she was getting threats and he was getting dragged. Let's take a listen to them. Why would she get threats? Because she ain't heard of the woman in that viral video. He did not rebuke you. He absolutely did not rebuke me. Now, there's a. difference. There was a correction because let me clearly state that pastor gave instruction

on the lines to get into. I was calling because the whole church was giving and it was our day of giving and the whole church was coming and we didn't want people standing the mothers and all that so I was calling them by increments and we had someone that had given out of before and I corrected it and I told everybody to listen and come when you're called. and that's all that was. What happened to passing the plate around? Nah, the niggas then stop doing that because people take it out.

Oh, okay. But this is like a special day. What about ushers? Like, you know what I mean? Because the reality is you shouldn't make nobody line up because you know there's a lot of old people there. If you need the money, you should have people going around

collecting the money from folks. Yeah, I mean, I've been to churches where that has happened. You know, and like he said, to his defense, churches have a certain way that they do go back and they ask. Like, I've been the churches that I belong to a church where they will come and tell, like, they will come and ask you for whatever they need. Everybody sold $100 a day. And then when

they tally it up, if it ain't enough, we're going to ask you all to go back. I don't agree with that. I've never agreed with it, but churches do that. Man, I can't speak for white churches because I've never been to one. You know, they're a little boring. But I, but the black churches, they do that. They will go back if they

feel like not enough was raised. I don't agree with that. Yeah, that's crazy. You can't put a number on somebody's offering. You know what somebody got? What's somebody got and you're putting pressure on them because some of these people will spend their last little bit of money you know it's sowing a seed in the church like just tell me hey the church need something yes and whoever wants to offer offer if you got it to offer offer it if you got it to donate it if not you know keep it moving but that's why i feel like a lot of people don't necessarily

go to church and they rather watch church on television or they rather stream it because they don't have to deal with that they can give what they want to give how they want to give and don't have to feel embarrassed if they are short a little bit or if they didn't got they got in the wrong line and if not i'm gonna use that excuse anyway see this is why i don't go to church now Oh, no, no, no, no, no, stop. Every time I'm all fucking that they're asking for a couple thousand dollars. No, but no, yeah, that is, that just, in any context, it just sounds nasty. I get it.

Well, speaking of taking you to church as we close, I told you all that the verses is going down this weekend in Vegas. It is going this weekend. Yes, it's October 25th at ComplexCon with a no limit and cash money. What's up with you? I'm reading something as I'm talking. You're supposed to know that off the top of your head. Yes. For the verses, Juvenile just dropped a new song.

That record is hard. That is produced by Swift's Beets. It's called you madly. Yeah. Swis Beat for Juvenile. Yeah. He's talking about it. That's hard.

He said, do y'all mess with it? Like, yeah. That's hard. I don't want to hear it at the verses, though. At the verses, no, no, no. He got to play that. I mean, I'm just saying, he still just got, even if he play it first or whatever.

I mean, I would play it because you got, you know, you got a big audience. Yeah, you got to promote it there. I want to hear Ha, back that ass up for him. Right the bridge, you understand, said it all. The only ones that bounce in the middle of the drop and the niggins run a corner to see what they're about. He's going to be out. That's there.

Soldier rags. So who wins that? Who wins that? Who wins that? Who wins that? Cash money or no limit? Who are you giving it to? That's a tough one.

I'm going to have to go with cash money. Wasabna, what's that? What's that? That's my song, y'all. That's a tough one, but I'm going to have to go with cash money. And I'm going to be the only one. Team Jeev, I'm the only one, Team Jeevy. Cash money, no limit.

I think, I would say cash money, too. That's a tough one, it's a tough one, but I'm all the day. Don't say cash money all day. It's just a easy thing. I was cash money all day for me. That's what I'm saying. Cash money all day. I want to say something, but y'all probably, it's probably not going to sound right.

See, Wayne, my, oh, my God, what, go ahead, go ahead. I was going to say because after, because no limit, after while some of the songs that they're going to play, it might not still be circulating as much as a lot of cash money songs. What's your man? Like, I don't know. I feel like there's certain songs. Like, you know how like you have those records. They do.

They both do. They both do. They both do. So you sling me an ex-fean. I think generationally, though, like when you go to, because there's going to be a huge crowd at ComplexCon. So you talk on all different ages. Will all those songs go through all those different generations on both sides?

I mean, listen, I got cash money. Trust me, they're getting ready. Cash money. Everybody who's going is getting ready. They're spending back. Everybody's working so they can know what the sing-along to. Trust me. Niggas get ready for stuff like this.

Well, that is the latest with Lauren. And this Friday, you know, we throw it back on a Friday so y'all can start hitting me up. I'm going to do a cash money versus no limit mix. You saw that jersey we had on yesterday. Yeah, you're throwing it back. We had on the jersey. No, I did not. On the back.

It said Vic. You took the V out and put a D. That's what you did. Oh, you didn't really have that. Oh, yeah, it was a big jersey. You did that. What did I do? He took the V out and put a D.

That's what he did. That is crazy. That's not a crazy. Took the V out as a vagina. You know what? I ain't judging you, man. Goodbye, man. Goodbye.

Goodbye. What in the fagotry are you talking? DJ envy just hilarious. Charlemagne de Guy. We are the breakfast club. We got a salute to the icon, the legend Debbie Allen for joining us this morning. Man, man.

I mean, it's conversations like that. I wish we could just have, you know, more time. But she is a very busy woman. But I told somebody yesterday, the fact that we get to sit down and talk to these icons every other day. Boy, that's a blessing, man. That is right. Like, Debbie Allen is just different, man.

Her energy is just amazing. Her, her sister. I was very, say, her sister as well. Alicia Rashad, rest and peace today, mother. Yeah. You know, she was from South Carolina. Did not know that. Yeah, she lived to be over a hundred.

I think she was 102. Amazing. When she passed her way. Wow. Amazing. Yeah, Felicia Rashah, Mother was 102. Her name was Vivian Ayers Allen. I'm pretty sure she was 100 to when she passed away.

Yeah. Yeah, she was from Chester, South Carolina. And also salute to Garcel Bouvet for Jonas. Yes, that's my girl right there. No, Fancy from the Jamie Fox show, Real Housewives, Beverly Hills, and of course her new movie, taken at the truck stop. It was crazy for Enviour just to call her old for no goddamn reason. He was not called her old.

I was just the way it came out, yeah, you know. Oh, and I want to tell everybody, too, man, this Friday I'll be in Columbia, South Carolina. Don Staley, you know, she put out her book. earlier this year. Uncommon favor came out through my book in print, Black Privilege Publishing with Simon & Schuster. She's been on the New York Times bestsellers list for weeks and weeks. But this Friday, she will be having

a conversation about her book, moderated by me at the Colonial Life Arena, starting at 4.30, and then the women's basketball team has an exhibition game versus Anderson right after that. And just announced yesterday, Big Asia Wilson, will be joining us

in conversation as well. So we'll see y'all this Friday at 430. p.m. at the Colonial Life Arena, go get your tickets. I was on Eventbrite just now, and Eventbrite got the little flame emoji, and it says few tickets left. So, go get your tickets. This Friday, 4.30 p.m., I will be in conversation with Don

Staley and Asia Wilson at the Colonial Life Arena in Columbia, South Carolina. You know it's University of South Carolina's homecoming weekend, so we'll be out there all weekend. And don't forget this weekend, I'm going to be at Hampton Homecoming. Salute to all the HBCUs. I know a lot of people have their homecomings this weekend. I'll be at Hampton on Friday on the yard. I think it's

G Herbo, I think it's Bow Wow, I think it's Cash Cobain, and then Friday night, I'm with Wyclef Waile, the Zat Band and Brownstone. So, there's a lot going on, and I'll see y'all and all the alumni at Hampton campus. And then Saturday, I'm going to Dominica. Hey, I know that's right. Do you know anything about Dominica? No. Oh, my gosh, I have to teach you some facts.

You know, y'all have 365 rivers. That's a river for every day, including the Indian River, which they shot the Pirates of the Caribbean. Really? You're welcome. Yeah. Wow. So we get over there and be like, yo, we're the Indian River at, y'all. I'm going to take you right to it

Okay And October 31st For Halloween and November 1st I will be in No you What you call the low country The low country? The low country is South Carolina

Oh that's what we once All right no matter Start us over And October 31st Halloween and November 1st I'll be in Charlotte North Carolina At the Comedy Zone We got four shows that we can

That's next weekend Yeah 704 So get your tickets If you have not yet Justilariousofficial.com And I'm giving away a cash prize to whoever comes with the best Halloween costume on me and Desi are dressing up it's going to be a fun show Friday Saturday we got four shows all together so get

your tickets now what you're going to be you can't you can't know I'm gonna be smoky from Friday oh okay all dickied out you know what I'm saying because I couldn't just go as a regular stud I mean people already think I'm that so I'm like no I had to I got to pop out like Chris Tucker you know what I'm gonna come out like smoky so study free very much study that's gonna be your name study study study study first What's your being, Lauren, for Halloween? Tony Braxton. Oh, I know that's right.

I just made that up. Okay, that's good. What's your going to be, Shalame? Hater. What's going to be Shala? It's funny, man, because people would be telling Lauren who she looked like, and she believes this. So somebody would be like Tony Braxton,

so now she want to be Tony Braxton. Now you want to brief again. Now you want to breathe again. You were so mad. I could have did Brindier and Monica, but I feel like that's an easy giving. Yeah, it is. You know what I mean?

What you're going to be, Charlemagne? Happy, because he ain't never, oh, straight. He ain't never either one of them. I'm going to do that. I'm going to wear a big ass on my chest, just for you. That's what I'm going to do. That's what I'm going to do now. That's exactly what I'm going to do because of the judge.

I'm going to wear a big S on my chest. Okay. That's right. Okay. Who are you going to be Envy? I'm going to be a prominent figure in our culture. Yes. Okay, Lee Daniels.

Okay, Lee Daniels. Oh, wow. We want to be Lee Daniels. Wow. I can't wait to see this. This is going to be amazing. See you got a positive note. Yes, the positive note is simply this, man.

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