The Breakfast Club - Gangster Chronicles: Jim Jones Winning Because Everybody Loves A Gangster

Episode Date: March 1, 2025

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and that's how most of our episodes go. Me and Eight having a conversation, and we just go with that. I asked a question, is it every time when someone is too old to gangbang and claim their neighborhood? I guess it depends on if gangbanging is the backbone and the foundation of who you are as a person. And what I mean by that is gangbang

has been around for a long time. And you got to feel some, to some of us, that was our heritage of foundation, right? You know, you didn't have a grandfather who had the big farm and generational wealth was passed down. You didn't have the celebrity, whatever. All we had was gang banging, right? So that became your foundation because that was what you, you know, I didn't, after I turned a certain age and before I started rapping, I didn't think that, you know, my future existed

as of being the man who went to nine to five job and came home, you know. Those years between 14 and maybe 30, it was hood representation. You get me? It was making khaki suits and, you know, and okay, I started rapping and you're able to acquire a little bit of success or whatever,

but that still doesn't transition over to the hood was everything. You get me? The hood, you know, allowed me to serve and make money. The hood allowed me a space to congregate with my peers to where you felt safe in your neighborhood to where you wasn't out of bounds or nothing.

And so I'll say a lot of niggas, some niggas who went away to prison and got that 25 to life and whatever, and they're just now coming home, you're welcome back to the hood, you get me? You're seen as that OG who represented, who walked that line and who gave, you know, prowess to the neighborhood.

So a lot of niggas feel like, yeah, I mean, you know, some niggas come home and like I said, you back to the block. Niggas get killed, niggas go to prison, whatever, blah, blah, and then back to the neighborhood, they see us go. Because like I said, yeah, for a lot of niggas who don't change the mentality of the hood is everything,

you unable to go out and be, you know, regular man and get a nine to five and whatever. And then some niggas who still do that still go back to the hood and represent the hood. You get me? So. What do you say about the dude that's a grandpa? No, he's a grandfather. Let's say he don't get a beard. He don't been locked up and he come home after

15 years. He's a grandfather. Now he got grandkids and in some cases his grandson might be claiming the hood. He might be a little tiny low or a little tiny blood from the hood. You feel what I'm saying? So he's gonna be out there gang banging with his grandson. Like I said, he gonna be out there putting work. But when you go to grandpa house, everybody know he was the OG from the set.

You got, it's, like I said, it's hard to decipher this cause a lot of people don't understand gangbanging from the point of it. And so, but yeah, a lot of that is family tradition handed down. I knew, I knew brothers, brothers that I hung with, you know what I'm saying? 30 years ago, they had kids and they kids had kids. They kids is like, uh.

Yeah, that's crazy. You know what, bro? I guess, and you know what, I should understand gang banging. I've been on the West Coast since I was 17. I don't have my 50s none. All my friends- Don't you, right, don't you know niggas that you hung around, like you said, you didn't gang bang,

but you niggas, you niggas who bang. All my friends are gang bangers. All my friends are niggas. Would them niggas turn around right now, just on the strength and be like, what up, Cubs, you know, blah, blah, you know they still saying where they from. You get me?

It's not like that. Half the niggas you know probably still doing that. And it might, and you know what? I'm gonna tell you like this. That's not a all the time thing. Now with a couple of them it is, but with most of them, it may be when they get upset about something

or maybe with something funny. Ha ha, Cud said this, ha ha ha. You see blood, you hear this. That's how it is, right? But they, for the most part, kind of like stay in this kind of like neutrality about the whole thing. Now, if somebody come tripping,

they gonna let you know this sucks and such, you know what I mean? Exactly. And they ready to flash at a moment's notice. I'm just saying, man, don't it get a little too old at some point when you become grandpa in the set, man, and your grandson is gang banging, and your grandson may have a son. Man, you know what I saw the other day?

Shout out to my homeboy, Marv, because he takes credit as the oldest living preroo. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. I told him, Marv, and he's a funny dude. I told him, Marv is 70 something years old, still look like he in shape. And I've heard, you know, allegedly that I told him,

still knocked a few dudes out, a few young dudes. Put a few young kids in they pocket. It's not impossible. Like I said, I guess being of age and representing the neighborhood, I mean, you got OG status, you get me? And then some are accepted for that. You know what I'm saying?

Putting in work for the hood, going down, doing the bid, coming home. People still recognize you as that, you know, they might not think like, oh, this nigga finna come home and he finna be on one and hitting corners and whoopie whoop, but you're respected because of the line you walked. And I don't know, I don't know why it's, you know,

it's frowned upon. Like I said, when you get a certain age, I guess you're supposed to transition, you know, just for anything as a man, you get me? As we get older, we supposed to get more mature, wiser, and, you know, be aware and steer them on the path of a straight line. But like I tell niggas, when that's your foundation,

it's kind of, you foundation, it's kind of, you know, it's kind of, it's kind of difficulty to, to, to just say, you know, I, you know, I'm 50 now. So, the rag is put up, so to speak, because even though you're trying to walk a straight path, there's a nigga's always out there who know you used to be from here. And nigger might want to test you still. You could have all the respect and whatever you want from niggas and the OGs love it and whatever, but, you know,

enemies is enemies and that's what it is. So you just always have to be fearful of that. So that's why I think, you know, because gang banging is that generational, you know, that generational shit. You get me? If I was, if I was still, you know, in the hood and living in the crib in the hood, you know, because some niggas do that, you know, on a regular, on regular shit, you know,

you grow up in the hood, right? Didn't become, you know, still with the podcast and the football and the motherfucking. You're a regular nigga and you still in the hood. There's a chance that you're not gonna venture out of the neighborhood. Nigga, if you can rent a house around the corner and coming out of mama's house,

you get me, you can rent an apartment around the corner. That's where you gonna go, right? And then you gonna go to apartment, you gonna be in the hood, still kicking it, whatever, or not too far away. And then you gonna come to the hood every day. And then you're transitioning of what? Getting around shit, nigga, I got a job,

I'm working construction or I'm down at the docks, you know, whatever, whatever. You still come into the hood every day when you got to lay your way. Okay, let's say you are one of them dudes that you know, because you got dudes that still claim the hood, but I like to call them kind of semi-retired. You feel what I'm saying?

If you will, like they semi-retired, they still mess with the homies here and there, but for the most part, they go to work and they hanging out with their families. They may have- Niggas, you know, older niggas, niggas that was older than me, that are still around. And they still meet up at the park

and they still kick it and barbecue and be in the alleys, you know, playing dominoes and it's niggas. That's just what else? That's what they lifestyle. So would you say that gang banging is a lifestyle? Oh, definitely. But it's, but the lifestyle has been manipulated. You get me?

Because the lifestyle has been monetized. The lifestyle has been openly accepted by those other people now. And then there's a lot of craziness with the shit now. We were talking about? We was talking about Jim Jones earlier and Jim Jones is kind of like, I don't see Jim Jones reinvent himself a couple of times. Right. You know, he came out,

he was like cams and then he was like kind of like the executive slash bodyguard slash just the homie that was around the rep that he wants to wear to where he put out a hit records. When he put balling out, he had out a hit records when he put when he put Balling out he had a hit record right then you saw him kind of a scene the way he came with a certified gangster record You like okay this dude is the rap star now, right? He really worked his way up the ranks in the traditional way cuz that's kind of how I used to be with us

You know, you might start off as a roadie. I'm the red man. They've started off as roadies for EPMD You feel what I'm saying? They went around in the first, they was just the homies that, you know, trying to get on, right? Battling cats at the shows. So we see him now, he's kind of like on this hood world tour. He was just out here with Wacko

and he out here showing Wack 100, like I'm out here in the neighborhood. But the thing is, this guy's in his 50s. Right. And people are loving it. This dude is 50 years old and they're loving it. That's because his representation right now is of the streets.

And like I said, you're gonna get tired of a lot of bullshit, you know. It just happens in hip hop. You get me? The gang banging music was always frowned upon, but it was loved. You get me? And it sold a gang of records. But then music started, you know, basically the doors blew off.

Right? And basically, everything is open with hip hop. You get me? You can be the backpacker, you can be the hip hopper, you can be LGBTQ, you get me? Rap is open. But the foundation of rap was something different, of hip hop. It was something different. So, and for New York to be one of those places who's looked at as the mecca or the foundation of hip hop was bred on hard shit New York niggas. You get me? The Rock Hymns and the Big Daddy Canes and the EPMDs,

that represented hard music. You know, the Bronx scenario and the Harlem shit and all that, that represented a scene. And when you start confusing that with all kind of shit, you know, niggas now wanna, you know, be three piece suited and you know, niggas wanna be popping champagnes and Lamborghinis and just wanna be made backs and all that.

And you forgetting about the niggas who, you get me? You forgetting about the niggas on the blocks and the bricks where the foundation of what we, you get me? Because you know, they started banging and niggas was cripping and blood and then, so now you got a niggas of a foundation of street shit that niggas, they missing, you feel me?

Just like the scenario when 50 came out. You get me? We had all this same song ass rap shit. And you know niggas was too balling for the niggas jumping out with Louis Vuitton, Drawzone and all kinds. You feel me? Niggas forgot the foundation of hip hop. So when 50 came out, it blew the doors

because it was something New York was missing. Like we missing that, you get me? That greediness. I think that with Jim Jones, he's taking it to a place where like, damn, like we, y'all niggas is all trying to be fancy and we just some greedy niggas at the block in front of the bodega trying to make money in.

We in the projects still and niggas is, we still wearing Timberlands and hanging out on the corners and shit. We not in the high rises and shit, you know, with our feet kicked up with the white executives and you know, I got a $20 million check, you know. Nah, nigga, we out here struggling. We gotta get jingo here, man.

We gotta get it done. When a nigga represents us, makes niggas go fuck that other shit. You get me? So now, not only do niggas start looking at it in your section, they start looking at it like across the board. Oh, this nigga like, y'all trying to hate on it

and talk about a nigga old and why he still in the hood and woompty woomp, but you start seeing all the hood niggas respect it. You get me? Because they feeling like we got representation for us again, and with the music. You get me? This nigga talking about nigga, I'm from Harlem.

Fuck all that other shit. Fuck all of this and that nigga Harlem. Nigga back in Harlem, we did this and niggas did that. And niggas, he making niggas remember of what it was. And so niggas go, oh,iggas, he making niggas remember of what it was and so niggas go, oh fuck that. You get me? So, and what not, what not's gonna work more

when you get the hood niggas behind you. You get me? Niggas like, come on man. Nigga, I don't give a fuck, nigga, yeah. Okay, you 50, nigga, the homie, you 50. Nigga, the homie right here, 40. The young cat is 20 something, but then you connecting with all the niggas who still own that shit, you feel me?

And when it comes to that shit, it don't matter the age. If you representing the block, niggas gonna respect it just period because you didn't sell out or figured you had to do what the other niggas is doing that ain't really representing us. Like, I don't know, niggas started thinking that money made you OG, you feel me?

And money just make you have money. You still be a fuck nigga with money. You just got money. You ain't hard cause you got money. You just got money. You ain't hard cause you got money. You just got money. Well, you know what, man? I'm gonna tell you, money became a thing for the sucker to kind of flex on the hard dude.

Exactly. That became his flex. So it was a time to where, and it's always been that way, the guy that has money has kind of got a past because if he had money, he didn't have to be that tough because he can have people hanging out with him. That was tough.

That wasn't nobody go bother him because he was paying these people around him, right? So it really was kind of distinct. It was a distinct genuine relationship, right? You hear it all the time that a woman may marry a dude that she don't really love because he got what? He got paper, he got security. Most women want security.

They're like, man, you know what? That other nigga, he put it down. He, you know, he that nigga, he know everything. I need a knockin' nigga out in two seconds. And this motherfucker gotta pay motherfuckers to do it. Hell yeah, and this dude right here got a job. He got a home for me and my, you know, she may want to start having kids if she don't got them.

So she thinking about the bigger picture. She's like, well, man, that other dude, that's cool. But I'm going over here with the money. You see what I'm saying? I'm going with the money. Because money, you know, forget about money, bring happiness. Exactly, but it don't all the time, you get me?

I've learned it's all about who's true and who's, you know, it's all about who will fuck with you if you got $7 in your pocket or 7 million. And I've learned that, you you know it's only a few of them type of people you get you get me but you know what bro I'm gonna tell you this right I think is the average person in this country makes forty thousand dollars a year right yeah I'm talking about people that take care of families, two or three, a car note, got a house note or whatever like that. And they make $40,000 a year.

They may have a wife that work, she may make $30,000, $40,000. So they do that, they take care of kids, they make it work, right? That is the common person in the United States. The whole thing, the whole misconception about everybody being a baller is a big-ass myth Yeah The people in this country bro make I want to make sure is right. Let me look at that average salary in us

The average salary in the u.s. All was off The average yearly salary in the u.s. is $65,000, right? $65,000. Hold on. And then they say the median annual wage for all U.S. workers is $48,000. That's what I saw. That's more like it. That's more in line with what I was talking about, right? Right. That's the average everyday American because $65,000, $66,000. I ain't gonna say you upper middle class, but you kind of you okay, you feel what I'm saying? You are, you are right. You can make that work.

You can, yeah, you can, you can survive and not be worried about paying the cable bill next month. You don't. Exactly. But when you make them 40, $48,000 a year, having cable, luxury homeboy. Exactly. That's gotta be the first bill getting cut off every month. You know that you're not gonna let your lights

get shut off to watch TV. And depending on what your mortgage or your rent or your lease is, you anywhere between motherfucking two and 4,000. Oh man, out here in LA, you know, my son, he live in a cool area, but he stay in Long Beach, right? He stay off, you know, a few hours down from the beach. This dude is in a one.

It's not a studio apartment, but it's one of them little apartments where you got your separate little kitchen. You got your living room. But then the other half of the living room was like a little bed where you could put your little bed at or whatever. Man, he paying $2900 a month for that. Yeah, because it's L.A LA County and it's Long Beach. And when you down in Long Beach by the water

or wherever in a nice area, yeah, that shit is ridiculous. Like I said, so you definitely would be in a predicament. You get me? And that's for a young kid just starting out. And again, that's him, you know, you definitely would be in a predicament. You get me? And that's for a young kid just starting out. And again, that's him, you know, you got to remember, and he make good income, he a fireman, right? So he hang out with all the other firemen and he like it down there because half the places they go like you got them little bars they're going to Hunter Beach and stuff that's right down the street from there and he go hang out with his, you know, firemen boys and he's safe and he kicks it.

He has a good time. Cause he told me all of my sons, all of my kids are total opposite. Stefan is the square straight lace one. He always knew he wanted to be a public servant. He was going to be a police officer or fireman. And he's a fireman, right? Chris always played football,

but Chris played with a bunch of dudes from Compton, Watts, Long Beach, you know what I'm saying, the projects. So he kind of emphasized a little bit more, even though he wasn't a hood dude, farthest from it, all his boys are. That's who he is, who he played with. Even at St. John Boswell, he played with dudes that was from the neighborhood. He played with dudes that had the eggs to him. You feel what I'm saying? Right. neighborhood that he played with dudes that had eggs to him. You feel what I'm saying? Whereas Jasmine, she the mixture of both. While she appreciates all that stuff, she's still like, oh, I ain't doing that. That's ghetto. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They all extremes. Stefan don't want to be around that stuff. He thinks all that stuff is just like the worst stuff in the world. Chris think everything got a motive. He think everything got a reason. Jasmine, she kind of in the middle. She think it's ghetto, but she like whatever, you know? So the average dude out here that he was kind of keeping it real, so to speak, he's going to identify with more people because that's who the average person is in this country.

The average person in this country is the person that's kind of living check to check. Oh, definitely. It ain't no whole bunch of balling going on. And I think Jim always identified with the common man. Cause he says someone day that I kind of as a dude that got a mediocre career. You feel what I'm saying? You're living cool, but you're not really living. You know, it's not a steady

thing, right? He says something one day. He says sometimes he gotta tell a wife and them, hey, you know what? We can't get Louis Vuitton and go do this and go on trips and all that now, but we could be back to balling in about five, six months. I gotta get these projects together. I gotta do this and do that. Then we go get back to it, right? That's the reality for the average old cleaner, bro. Yeah, you, like I said, you gotta have,

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Listen to the hookup on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. We got the homie Glasses Malone in the house. He just came through. He gonna love this conversation. So we kind of got away from it a little bit, bro. The question was, is it ever too late for a dude to be out there gang banging

or pushing the line in his neighborhood? What do you mean pushing the line for his neighborhood? Like a dude is just saying he a gang bang, he from the hood. He may be a grandfather, he may got grandkids that belong to the neighborhood. Now he may not be out there active, but he's in his late 50s, early 60s out there still pushing the line

for his neighborhood. But you don't really push the line for your neighborhood like you really push the line for your friends. So, I don't know if there's ever an age where pushing the line for your friends, you can get too old, but I think there's a rhetoric about pushing the line for your friends, you can get too old. But I think there is a rhetoric about pushing the line for your neighborhood versus pushing the line for your friends.

Do you ever get too old to stand up for your friends? No, I knew you old ass was gonna have some kind of like common logic to the stuff. You and Ape both, Ape pretty much said the same thing you did by the way. No, you don't never get too old to take care of your friends. Take care of your homeboys. No. So, a lot of gang banging is kind of frowning. Made to think like it got something to do with the the name of the

street or the sign at the park. I don't really have nothing to do with what this thing is about. This is about your lifelong friends most of the time. If you like really from where you from, these are your lifelong friends. So right now if Russ live around the corner for me right now, Russ said he not even like he did some time. He don't even feel like he want to be apart. But if he called me and needed me, you know, at 45 I'm going around there and take this pistol around there just in case I got to get active to save his life

and stand up for him. Fuck yeah. Hell nine got too old for that. See, that's a thing you talking about looking out for a homeboy right now, holding somebody down right there. There's nothing wrong with that. That's to be suspected. Cause you know, any one of y'all called me and need my assistance.

I'm gonna be there, right? I'm talking about the thing, dude. You know what I'm talking about. The dude is still got the rag on his head. He's still got the rag on his head. He's out there. He's still got a, he's still got a pistol in his waist. He's still doing his thing.

Is that dude too old to be gangbanging? I still, I know it sounds like I'm being disingenuous or misleading. I'm telling you the truth. I don't see it the same way you see it. Well, you can answer the question. So you can't tell me you ain't seen a dude in his 50s, early 60s with a rag on his head

and he's still out there pushing the line. I mean, pushing the line like what? Like he is a proud representative. Yeah, but a proud representative of what? That mean he's still a hardcore gang banger. What do you think that means, Steel? I think that mean he's a man that's still stuck in his childhood,

that's trying to relive his childhood and has been stuck in his childhood. That's what I think about them dudes is. I think it goes further than a dude gets in his childhood. He's trying to relive his childhood and he has been stuck in his childhood. That's what I think a lot of them do, Zills. I think it goes further than a dude just representing his neighborhood. I think these are men who still are, are still tied up in being a juvenile. And they've missed, they've missed their childhood.

Huh? You said that way about Fombie? No, Fombie is not a dude to walk around with blue rags on his head or do this, do that. Fombie is a dude that own a business. He owns a business. You don't think Fombie is a proud nigga from insane crib right now? He, gee, you know what I'm talking about, man. Don't do that. Fombie not walking around. Fombie not walking around with a Raiders jersey on and a black Raider rag and then the thing. And just give back to him. You don't think Fomby wear Raider jersey right now today? Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure he do. That's just one of his favorite teams. I'm pretty sure Fomby do that right now,

but the thing is, he's not out there with a rag on his head, just out there, just calls him just in the middle of the hood, just calls him to stir. A Raider's jersey is a rag for somebody come in saying. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. He don't do that all the time. Most of the time I see Fomb,

he got a Polo or something on him. What about Trey D? You think Trey D too old to be? Man, I don't see Trey D. Trey D is a man of intellect. Trey D, he's a man of intellect. He don't wear no whole bunch of... I actually, I've never seen him outside of him

when he do his performances. I ain't seen him wear a whole bunch of Raiders stuff and he don't be dressed like a gangbanger. He kind of be dressed clean cut. Got a little fade. You know what I mean? From your mind, gangbangers dress a certain way. I'm talking about dudes that's just active. Gee, I ain't talking about all my friends are gangbangers. So you saying all this time Trady when he wasn't a Raider jersey, he

wasn't active. Huh? Are you saying whenever Trady is not wearing a Raider Jersey, he's not active? I didn't say that. See II didn't say that because the Raiders could just be his favorite team too. Or it could be the fact that this is the it could be a fan and it could be that too but I ain't talking about the dude that's just over the top man. It's just like I'm naming dudes over the top. You think you that's just over the top, man. It's just like. I'm naming dudes over the top. You think Trady over the top?

Trady is a fucking insane creep to the day he died. Same for Fonby. Yeah, they do, but they don't walk around with no blue rags on their head. No, they walk around in a raider's jersey with a blower and a blow your head off if you play with them or their friends right now. Traidee ain't finna be like,

oh, I'm a grandfather right now, you can play with me. That ain't finna let you play with him? Being a gang member still is all saying, will you take the law in your hand to advance whatever? Will you take that? Will you will you go beyond the laws rules to would you go beyond the laws rules to advance your cause? I don't think you ever get away from that.

If you like grew up how we grew up. I don't think Tracy. I don't think Fombie. I don't think Dan Tana. I don't think Tracy, I don't think Fombie, I don't think Dan Tanner, I don't think none of them people, you could play with them. They not gonna wake up and be like, I'm a grandfather. You know what, you could just punk me.

That ain't happening. And if you play with them, they may not call the proper authority still to get with you. They might give you the justice you asking for right now. Judge, you're the future. Let me ask you this right here, right? You brought up Fonby, right?

Yeah. Fonby is more focused on increasing his revenue than he is on anything he's related. Every time I'm talking to him, you know, he got that car shuttle business he got going on. He do security for trading, he trade his security. Fombie always handling some business. What makes you think that's what we wasn't doing

as gang members? We was trying to handle our family when we was gang banging every day. You remember when you found what Fombie was doing when you first met him, he was advancing his finances. Yeah, we was kids though. We were doing it in a legal manner, in a legal fashion. Now he's doing it legally

because he doesn't want to go back to jail. Again, it ain't worth going to jail for that. Now there are certain things to Fombie. I'm sure if you ask Fombie, if you ask OG Fombie, is there a thing worth going to jail? He gonna give you a list of things that he would go to prison over. Gee, it's everybody with everybody has a point

that they will risk it all, right? I got a point where I risk it all. I go to prison to protect my family and mine. Because you knew you wouldn't go to prison for that. I wouldn't go to prison for what? For protecting my family? Self defense, yeah. I go to prison for self defense like a motherfucker.

Hell yeah. You wouldn't have to, that's why you reference it as self-defense. Yeah, I wouldn't have to go to prison. The thing is, I would do everything I can to protect my family and my loved ones. Within the laws. No, sometimes man, sometimes the laws, man, like the thing is this.

If I got a blower, right? Let's say I got a blower, right? Let's say I got a blower, right? And that motherfucker might not be legal. It might not be my right to go. So you're not gonna have an illegal blower? No, but let's just say the situation is like that, pretend like the situation is like that where I grab this pistol.

You think I'm gonna be grabbing and mixing stuff happening. Oh, I wonder if this heat is legal. This is not my registered gun, so I can't use it. No, I'm a bust dude down and worry about the repercussions later on. Because- You're not going to get in a legal blower still.

I might be at your house, dog, and somebody might have did something to you, and I might have to grab your strap and get busy. You're gonna come with your legal blower then. Yeah, it's good to have a legal blower, because I don't want to get, why, because I don't want to go to jail So I'm gonna have my legal ease

So you asking me the difference between you and let's say MCA is MCA is not going to worry about if this blower legal if he needs the blower He that's not the first thing on his mind. You know what this motherfucker ain't legal. I think the first thing on mine either Still yes ain't legal. It ain't even the first thing on mine either. Still, yes it is. That's what separates you from being a gang member. The only, I keep telling you, our lives ain't that different, right? We all grew up in street urban culture.

Only difference is people like me and Eight decided to thug with our friends. You thug by yourself to some degree, but you also grew up and you like, you know what? Most of this shit ain't worth going to jail. People like me, eight, Trady, we still think there's reasons to go to jail. Eight don't think to itself, you know, I got grandkids now.

You know what? I'ma let this nigga do this to me, no. Bro, it ain't about me saying you just let a nigga just do something to you. It don't work like that, dog. What I'm saying is, if you a dude that's out there, you 65 damn near 70, you pressing people, you banging on people, where you from fooling all this

and that, you don't think that's too old dog? Still data, even a press is understated bro. You don't press people to say where you from. You press people if you think they're a threat to where you at. Where you from is a way to identify who is this foreign person within my realm. It's not like you just trying to be me

and you walk around here niggas. Hold on, he trying to say something. This thing ain't on though. Yeah, we still can't hear you bro. But anyway, man, it is fools that's too old to game, Bangji. It ain't never, it ain't never an age still to change.

Look, it's up to you. The day you don't ever want age still to change. Look, it's up to you. The day you don't ever wanna go to jail for nothing is the day you done as a gang member. Well, see, I'm saying this right here, right? I have legal guns, right? Sure. And I do that because that's the right thing to do.

That's a logical thing because I understand that we live in a time in society the way you should have Weapons in your house because this people outside that could be coming you don't want to be up there You know, you don't want to be unprepared. You feel what I'm saying? No, you don't think it's right to have guns you have to abide by the law and that's your goal as a That's all right as American citizen to have guns I'm not looking for America to be in a have guns. I'm not looking for America to,

being a gang member means you're not looking for America to give you rights. That's all. You're trying to give me a hard time right now, bro. You know what I mean. I'm not giving you a hard time, big bro. You know I'm not. You know I'm dead serious.

You know some of these fools are too old to be out here doing the stuff they doing, man. What are they doing, still? Assessing a threat by saying, hey, where you from? Are you from around here? That's not too old to ever assess a threat if you around the way. If you, so you somebody's grandfather

and somebody, his little grandson bring his friend home and that little dude got some red strings in his shoulder. You think grandpa should ask him like, hey man, where you from? I mean, is he active? Is his grandson friend active? Do he look like he's blowing his head off? He don't know what to do, he's? Is his grandson friend active? Do we look like he's blowing his head off? He don't know what to do.

He's been recording his team colors. Huh? The thing might be his, it might be his, it might be his school colors. Okay, so then once you assess the threat and ask this man where he from, then you gon' know. Say something. One, two.

Yeah, you on now. What was you saying, man? We saw your mouth moving. I was saying that I don't think that, you know, necessarily that you got 70 year old niggas, you know, putting bandanas on their head, pulling up on niggas like, hey, blood, they could, where you from, homie?

Like Glass has said, that's only gonna be in the expectation of I already had an issue with this dude, or it's a situation to where I might need to have some words, but at 70 years old, I don't think no dude who was still in his neighborhood is going around actively like, I'm gonna jump in the car, fold deep with the homies, and we gonna put bandanas on, and you know,

that's TV comedy, that's TV comical shit still. I'm gonna tell you now, the homie I had told of Marv just got at somebody. I ain't gonna get the total on this thing too much, but he socked the nigga out. He don't start with me. But like I said, that's probably some other, that's probably some other deep rooted issue.

Marv is older than gang banging. Marv is a fool. It has nothing to do with gangs. Like Marv is the real deal nut. He is serious. Marv is older than the first Crips. The first Crips was born in 53. I think Marv was born in 49.

You can register whatever Marv is. You ready? You ready? Call him up and see what is up in there. Your ass is to do. You is messy and crazy. Listen, whatever, Marv is that way. I want to put you on here real quick. I've told them, Marv, when the last time you don't sock somebody out, you try, I'm gonna put you on the podcast right now.

Is that cool? Oh, it's the Gangsta Chronicles. I'm just gonna put you on for five minutes. Just real quick. I want to ask you a question. All right, sure. Hey, yo, we got the homeboy Marv here. Marv, just for five minutes, just real quick. I wanna ask you a question, all right, sure. Hey, yo, we got the homeboy Marv here.

Marv, just for the record, how old are you? 75. 75. When did you last turn? When you turned 76. When you turned 76, that's Glasses Malone. He said when you turned 76. I just turned 75 February the 4th.

February the 4th. So Marv, what Marv got going on, Marv is for real. This don't got nothing to do with gang banging. Marv just not playing. You keep chalking Marv behavior up to something to do with gangs. Marv was on some shit, period. If gangs stopped today and there was never no more gangs,

Marv still gonna be on his shitty own. It don't have nothing to do with gangs. Did you hear that Marv? Did you hear that, Marv? Uh huh. Did you hear what Glasses said? He said, he said, yeah, I heard what he said about, what's the discussion about? What we're talking about is there ever a time for somebody to be too old to be active? What do you define active? Sitting in the park holding your nuts and active?

I'm talking about when you're really out there pressing people. Do you think that, because see Marv, the thing is about where you really out there pressing people. Do you think that you see more of the thing is you're not out there pressing people. You actually a well-spoken man. You're not out there pressing, but you're not trying to make game-makers like they just retarded. After a certain time, you ain't gonna press nobody.

No, what 45, 50 years old, you gonna get your ass beat. You all hear them all. These youngsters ain't playing. I mean, they ain't no more punching me. The bully life is over. They say old man for council, young man for war. Ain't no more OGs. Them OGs that you call OGs is hanging in the park,

slapping dominoes, talking about what they did in 77, 80. Nobody care about 77, 80. It's 20, 25. What are you doing now? That's real spit, man. That's real spit. Yeah, but, Mark, can you hear me? Hold on, can you hear me, Mark?

Yeah. This glass is big, dawg. I'm trying to tell Steel. I'm trying to tell Steel who you are don'm trying to tell Steele who you are don't have nothing to do with Elm Street. You not playing with nobody period. Oh he said he ain't from Elm Street G. I'm sorry Mark. Who you are has nothing to do with Pai Roo. before Piru? Before Piru, our neighborhood, I'm from Elm, my street, I was born on Elm Street.

Yeah. It was treetops first and then they turned into cedar blocks. Facts. So when I'm telling him, Marv, you was this way way before anybody told you they didn't have to organize you to be this way. Marv you was already this way. I'm telling still I don't think he heard your story that you in a penitentiary when gang banging started he was in trouble already when gang banging started. When it's so when the first Crips came to why I was already there.

Crips came to why I was already there. He's not playing still when Cunningham after the balloon killing. He was the first Crip that came to San Quentin. I was there. Still he not playing this don't got more of not playing. I know Marvin playing see, I think y'all confusing what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about more of Marv gonna be walking around with no rag on his head, slapping dudes in the back of the head talking crazy. I've seen dudes trying to do that.

Nobody's 75 slap nobody in the back of the head still. I ain't saying they all 75. You don't talk about people in their 50s. Marv, would you agree this a lot of older men out here faking the funk? As more as more of those people 55, 56 walking around slapping. For the first time in 15 years old,

hanging out with 20 year olds, talking about what you did back in the day. If you did what you said you did, you'd still be on death row. So it's a lot of false scenarios. That's why we're in the position we in as blacks, because we got 30 years of OGs not being able to relate to and you got these old dudes misleading,

misleading kids on what gang activity or what, the creation of, I can only speak for power from comp. What blood's doing LA is a whole different entity. For the comping car, we don't have enough education and us given the real of what is supposed to be done. I ain't got no IBs on blacks in prison. All my enemies respect the words of Mexicans. I ain't never done nothing to a black

and you had it coming. I don't just shoot at folks. I ain't got no crib mad at me for killing another crib. Mine all been economics for these dudes. And I feel the same way for dudes been down 20, 30 years and get out here calling themselves OGs, but you done killed a black, but you ain't killed no white or Mexican in the penitentiary in 30 years.

What kind of sense that make? There you have it, Steele. There you have it, Marv. I appreciate you, man. And we gotta get you on, Marv. When you gonna be back in town? I'll be all this month. Well, I leave on the eighth going to,

I'll be back from the 15th until the 30th. All right, we go hook up, man. I wanna hook up with your big dog. Oh, for sure. For sure. Love you, man. Much love, big, we go hook up, man. I wanna hook up with you, big dog. Oh, for sure. For sure, man. Love you, man. Much love, big dog. Love you too, man. I talked about you yesterday.

Yes, sir. I'm gonna own you when you get back, man. We gonna make sure we politic. Okay, for sure. All right, thanks for calling, Steve. For sure, for sure. Be safe out there, big dog. Still.

That's my boy right there. See, he just living on me and stuff. See, that's not him gang banging on See, he just living on man stuff. See, that's not him gang banging on nobody. Still gang banging his man stuff. You thought it was something different. And that's what I'm saying. You persecuting something you don't realize about him. I didn't persecute.

I just asked, I just asked is there, cause I didn't start it. We talked about, he made a reference to Jim Jones, right? He said that Jim Jones is winning right now because people love authenticity. They see him going in these neighborhoods and they like him. Yes. I speak on the fact that

anytime somebody see, you know, some of this gray or know that your career was, you know, 20 of this gray or know that your career was, you know, 20, 30 years ago. And then first of all, it's attention because niggas are all gold. You niggas are old, you feel me? That's the first thing with the hip hop, the tag, is that you get a certain age

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I mean because if I turn around right now and a nigga see me on the corner with some Cortez on and some khakis and a white t-shirt. First thing they gonna say is that nigga ate too old to be gang banging out here. And they got to put on some Cortez and some khakis today. But that fits the demographic of, I used to gang bang or whatever, and I used to rap or whatever, and I talked about the hood and all that shit. So, you too old to be doing that shit.

You should be uplifting the niggas. You should be telling niggas, you know, how to come up and get up out of this shit, get up out of that and get up out of that. So they tag us to a certain extent of, and I say the nigga winning because it's still niggas in the hood. It's still niggas in the hood. It's still niggas in the hood and they don't look at it like that.

They look at it like we got representation of us and we love that type of shit. But everybody frowns on it. It says too old to be done. My big homie plug 60. That's my low right now. If I hit him up, he gonna be like, what up cuz? that says too old to be done. My big homie, Pluck 60. That's my look right now. If I hit him up, he gonna be like, what up, Cuzz? If I hit Ice T right now, Cuzz was born in 58, he gonna be like, what up, G Cuzz?

I love that. See, that's just them being who they are, G. You know what I'm saying, bro. You just trying to just paint this picture. No, I'm telling you, I think you have this negative perception like an outsider, even though you saw it up close and personal. So I think that's the disingenuous part.

Like we was talking about it earlier today, where you was talking about how Fonby and it brought you in. They made sure you ate. They made sure you made some money. They looked out for you. They showed you genuine interest. I'm sure it come with some other shit, but it comes with love, right?

Because that's just how we live. But if you- But all they do is really just jingling people. No, that's what most homies is. Most homies is like that. There are situations that break down and you get the worst of some people who been through a lot. And that's just what comes with

being from a poor community period. People been traumatized, people friends been shot, people friends been shot people mom died people mom on drugs A lot of mental things is happening to people dramatically and then that becomes a representation of what people think gang banging is But no that person just a fractional person. I got homies my homies right now I was grown and all adults them niggas take care of a family. They take care of grandkids They do all of the same thing any man do. No different than, hey, go to their kids, football games, they do all the same shit.

And if you play with them, they'll hurt you. That's still gang banging at that age. They still representing the community. To me, that's just being a man. To me, that's just being a man. That's all gang banging is, Phil. I've seen some, see, I think me you know what I'm talking about.

You know what I'm saying, right? The thing is, gee, that's man stuff to me. If you mess with someone, you mess with me, I'm gonna do something to you. Yeah, but you gonna do it within the laws ramification. No, when I get on your ass, I'm really gonna get on your ass. It ain't gonna matter.

The laws ain't gonna matter at that point. It is gonna matter because that's the only thing that makes you not a gangbanger. That's the only thing that makes the everyday civilian not a gangbanger. The law becomes the ultimate standard of how they gonna live their life.

People like that come from our walk of life, they're not, the law is not the ultimate judge of how they gonna live their life. They're not just fighting for the law. We didn't think about shit. We didn't think about shit. We didn't think about nigga, I know if I get caught in the alley selling rocks, that whatever.

Nigga, I'm going to jail. You feel me? I know if I jump in the car and we go do this bussin', and nigga, I'm going to jail. Like, there was no like, hmm, should I do this because I could get time and I could, nigga, we going to mount up? We going to mount up.

There's no thinking. And an average citizen like you, you gonna be like, yeah, I'm gonna jump in the car with y'all, but then while we rolling, I'm gonna be- Let me out, though. I'm gonna be Cuba. And I'm gonna be like,

nigga, if it was too late, let me the fuck out. Y'all my niggas, but you know. I'm not doing it this way. Because you in my neighborhood and we doing that, oh, you about to claim the hood. You're gonna be from the hood or it's gonna probably be some conflict when you say no. Because now niggas is looking at you like you the homie.

Making money over here. Making help with us. You serving with us. You eating with us. Niggas come through and bust. You pulling out the deuce deuce and busing back. Why you ain't from the hood? And then when you start going, now I'm going to start thinking something is the problem. You're just taking advantage of us. Might garner a few enemies in the hood now because of that. Now you're just taking advantage of us.

Man, you know what though? I'm gonna take the honest to God truth. Fonby told you. The day the Fonby got locked up was the day he was playing. He told me, he said, we was gonna put you on. You was gonna be from Long Beach insane. We was gonna beat your ass. You was gonna show up and we was gonna put you on, you was gonna be from Long Beach insane. We was gonna beat your ass, you was gonna show up, we was gonna jump your ass.

We was gonna jump your big ass and rush you, you would have been from a hood. Cause everybody said, this dude is always with us, how come he ain't from a hood? Yeah. Yeah, back then man, back then loyalty was everything. Like nigga, you ain't coming over here drinking up the 40s, making a couple of dollars off the corner and you ain't coming over here drinking up the 40s making a couple of dollars off the corner

and you ain't trying to be from insane. Nigga you America, America, America the same way. Hey, when it comes to a draft, they like what? You ain't trying to fight you. You benefit off this country. Exactly. Oh, you're finna go. There ain't no if ands of you joining up right now. You going to jail. Oh, you're finna go. Ain't no F as if you joining up right now.

Well, you're going to jail. Yeah, which one you would do? You will go to jail or you go join up, put that green rag in your back pocket in this motherfucking M60. He tell me all the time, he say, if I wouldn't have went to jail, that nigga would be from insane.

I'm telling you, he's serious. He said, we would go beat your ass. Oh, them niggas taking care. Listen, I keep telling you being a gang member is not the dumb ass thing that people think. It's really just everybody you knew growing up for the most part. These are all the same people. Y'all committing crimes together. Don't always be about crimes. Most of the days in the hood is like Friday. You just chilling and you joking with niggas. You trying to make some money. Somebody lying about something.

You calling a nigga out online. You may fight, you know what I mean? It ain't the way everybody think. It's a really a comradery. I'm not trying to sell it to people that, cause if you ain't grew up where we from, I really think you shouldn't even be able to be from the hood.

Man, I almost lost my football stuff, because you be kind of that, man. I started hanging out with them dudes so much, man, doing what I was doing, that I stopped going to class. I would go to practice, but I might stand out there all day and catch the bus to practice and ride back with one of homies and go back. Because it was fun, dog.

We did stuff, I made money, man. I had some influence, I had, it was good, dog, it was fun, dog. We did stuff. I made money, man. I had some influence. I had, it was good, dog. It was fun. I could see how young dudes attracted to that. But you not really supposed to, it's not really, like, I don't know how somebody gets put on a game that didn't grow up with the people.

Like, how do you even motivate yourself to go shoot for a bunch of strangers? You might as well join the army or the Marines at that point. At least they gonna pay you like my homies. My homies is different. You know what I mean? I knew him my whole life. The young ones, I raised them. The older homies raised me. Even before I wasn't doing nothing. When I was going to school, I would see them every day. They

mean the people my age, we would play as kids. So, that is the motivation when something go wrong to go stand up for them. It ain't got nothing to do with that sign at the corner. That's just what we call each other. That sign don't mean nothing. The blood running through my homeboy body means something. The sign don't mean nothing. The sign means us. That's all it means and we gonna be that way even when we somewhere else. It don't have nothing to do with that

So I think a lot of the perception of gang banging is rooted in ignorance people don't know so they think it's something more than just Really some people from this area coming up together trying to make something of they show so when you say to me Somebody at 65 gang banging. I'm looking like what do you mean? What are they doing? Are they out there selling dope? Do you think I see something wrong with somebody 65 selling dope? How else they gonna make their mean? What are they doing? Are they out there selling dope? Do you think I see something wrong with somebody 65 selling dope? How else they gonna make their money? What are they doing? What else could they be doing? Are they out there?

Did somebody do something to their little homie and they bustin' at 65? You a cold nigga. If you 65, hopping in the car to go get somebody, I'm not playing with him. That nigga serious. And this for sure gotta be his 30th time doing this. Cause you don't just pick up the heart at 65 to do this.

That means you didn't got away with this a lot of times, or you just got out of jail for doing this. Either way, I'm not playing with that man at 65 that's gonna hop in the car still. So when you ask- You know what I just thought about? Is he too old to push the line? You know what I just thought about, right?

Yeah. The Italian about, right? Yeah. The Italian mafia, right? Them dudes don't usually get made until they in they either they thirties or they older, right? And they move on that most of the bosses of mafia is who older people, right? Do you think it's a double standard when it comes to that? I think you're being, I think yes you are.

I think yes, you are racist and prejudice when it comes to black people and you be, I think yes you are. I think yes you are racist and prejudiced when it come to black people and how we grew up together as poor people. But y'all watch the movies with them old white men and y'all look up to that. Y'all are they cool cause they wearing suits. Man, fuck them suits. They motherfuckers murder.

They motherfuckers murder everybody. They motherfuckers, man gangbanger can't compete with no mafia. The mafia people will put a hit over your ass on everything. They will, and they not, they not like gang. You might survive. Yeah, a hundred motherfuckers eating linguine in the restaurant, no tell a soul.

Like the nigga just laying there dead at the table, just got smoked. And they got a hundred motherfuckers. They buried you somewhere for nothing. And niggas don't say nothing. So our reputation of gang banging is always frowned upon. I think just because it's a black thing. I don't know, you know, anything that we do as a people is frowned upon. Gang banging. Niggas playing sports and they get

to dancing in the end zone is frowned upon and all man why they doing that? Oh, why you can't they just frowned upon Kendrick at the Super Bowl You get me but you don't fuck it We take it on and keep it pushing because we know who we are the people that's all What was it go say about Sammy G Sammy they murdered over 20 some people He be doing people podcast right now. He didn't told on people, murdered all them people and he be sitting on podcast

and everybody looking up to him. But you see a crib, he didn't probably shot two, three niggas. You like, oh, this nigga the scum of the earth. Or he the snitch. And it's the biggest snitch or rat or whatever they want to call him. He live comfortably every day, don't he?

Ain't worried about a motherfucker. Look on his YouTube information, it's a Salvatore Sammy the Bull Gravino. He got 625,000 followers, 127 million views. He done killed all these people for no reason. Some of these people done died for, just because some simple shit, they didn't want to turn over money for their business. And he knocked their motherfucking head off

and they didn't bury their body. They family still ain't found them. He on motherfucking YouTube with a million subscribers. And you niggas want to talk to me about old game maker. He on there, that man, every bit of 79 on there talking about who he murdered back in 1967. You want to talk to me about gaming. Talk about gaming.

Talk about that. I wish an old game bag would imagine took you out of channel. He wouldn't have a million followers. You niggas be like, game member. You see what they did to tooky? They killed tooky over allegedly robbing a man at 7-Eleven and robbing somebody and shooting them at a hotel, allegedly. This mother, that's two people.

He got the death penalty. They put that motherfucker underneath him. He changed his life, wrote books, all kinds of shit. They killed that motherfucker still. Sammy the Bull set up, they figured out he set up 20 murders so you know it's way more than that because they didn't figure them all out. This motherfucker then went,

got out of jail after murdering all them people, right? After murdering all them people, got out of jail, start selling dope in Arizona, went back to jail, got out and started a fucking YouTube channel and you interviewed him. But you want to sit here and ridicule me about, is it too often is it gangbang? I don't know, I'm just asking questions people want to know.

This motherfucker would have told on everybody. He talking to a million subscribers about what he did in 1972. All niggas is hypocrites. But we frowned upon our own type, you get me? That's, it's always that, you know, you'll see people like, oh, why this nigga still doing? Oh, you too old and you done did this,

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You know, my stuff, I don't been through, you know, my stuff, I don't been through? You know how much stuff you don't been through? Gee, how much stuff eight don't been through? It's like we don't been through some stuff, man. We don't been through some circumstances to get these grades in our bigs, you know? Yeah. So I'm proud of it, man. I ain't nobody ever tell me it's nothing about being old.

It's my strength. That's why I won't let you convict me on this Crippin. Like I'm out here being a great representation. I look at people like Dogg and them, them people being a great representation of what we could become and still be proud of everything we've been through. I look at eight, all the older homies

and people that walk the path that I walked and then made it in the music industry and changed their life and shit. And hell, no, I don't think they too old to be where they from. I'm proud that MC8 is still MC8. That mean the world to me that he ain't woke up one day and was like, you know what, I'm too old, I'm just Aaron. No, that nigga ate right now.

That nigga message, his phone say big Ocho. When you see that, that's big eight. I love when I look at something and I see Snoop Dogg, IHT, why should we be ashamed of our street cultural experiences? Feel me, if you're a righteous man, I'm gonna fuck with you. The law ain't the ultimate judge in this life.

Sammy the Bull got a million subscribers damn near on fucking YouTube from talking about telling all these people and killing all these people. And you want me to look at some older brack man that's surviving the best way he can and be looking at him like, man, you too old to be doing that.

Fuck all that. Them old white men, how old was Paulie when they killed Paulie? Paulie on the Goodfellas? No, Big Paulie. Oh, you talking about Sopranos? No, no, Big Paulie, the real big Paulie that got killed. When John got into power. When John got into power. Hold on. Big Paulie Costellano.

Big Paul died. That man was 70. The one that got killed down in front of Spark Steakhouse in the Lincoln back in the- He was, how old was he, 70? 70. How was the people that knocked, probably some other old men knocked him down? Maybe, shit. Let them tell it, they say, God, he set it up

based off the movies. But they didn't be like, oh, he old, he gonna move out the way. They knew that man wasn't playing with them. They knew if they didn't take that man head off and try to take his job, that man would have had all them people killing their family kids.

Yeah, for real, for real. So when y'all asking me, when y'all asking me, is there two A's? First off, if you 60, you hit somebody 25 upside their head, they probably gonna whoop your fucking ass. So you ain't finna be out there slapping nobody upside their head. Part two gonna whoop your fucking ass. So you ain't finna be out there slapping nobody upside their head. Part two, if you 65 and you walk around this motherfucker in a rag, you ain't

finna get away from nobody shooting at you. So you want to die anyway. You're a baby or a fool. Either way. Lord knows if you 66 and you hop in the car to go put in work, I don't want to say nothing bad about you, period. Cause obviously you a professional. If you 66 jumping in the car to go shoot

at some niggas still, you gotta be the real deal. You ain't your first rodeo. Shout out to all the OG riders. Shout out to all the OG riders and them. I'm not even talking about some niggas. Do I recommend it? Nigga, I'm not finna say nothing to that old nigga. That nigga still killing niggas at 66?

Man, I'll be the last nigga to talk about him. He a professional. He is. Marv is 70 something, he ain't nothing to play with. I would tell people, do not play with that man. Man, that man is before Pah Ruin, bro. When gang banging started, he was already in prison. You not listening to what I'm saying.

That means what he is don't got nothing to do with Pah Ruin. He was that way and this just fit his way of life. He was already who he was. That's how all of this stuff work. This stuff really just make you more of a man. It don't mean the law is supreme. So if you're a raggedy man coming into it, you're gonna be even more raggedy.

If you're a righteous nigga, you gonna have power to enforce righteousness. But the law is just not the ultimate morality. That's it. The law don't matter. The law is not the judge. So you start to take away like like somebody like OG Fomby, you feel me? Like he not finna go to jail for selling no dope no more. Now shit I don't know now if quarter-pieces, if Rox was back in Staten and everybody start smoking crack,, he might open up a spot because he gonna eat You understand but what i'm saying to you is he gonna do what it takes to survive because that

What this thing is all about and he ain't finna let nobody play with his name right now at his age same with tracy david Tracy ain't gonna let nobody play with his fucking name You ain't finna be playing nigga. He ain't he might ain't finna come look for you like he used to But when he see you bro, you got a problem. That's the type of line. I'm from my older homie Moon. He's go for sure be a cracker. My older homie Moon, my older homie Shady,

my older homie Pluck, all my older homies I send them they six them niggas ain't playing. Niggas are blowing your fucking head off you playing with them. Man don't play with them people. And I believe in that. That's for real man. Ain't having technical difficulties, man.

We about to check out of here. Glasses, I thank you, man, for coming and kicking it with your people, man. And always taking note for your Crippin', man, and your G-ing. Here you go. That's it, man. On that note, man, we out here,

shout out to all the Crips out there. Shout out to all the Bloods, all the Pyroles, everybody bang, bang. All right? We got all the people, all Crips out there. Shout out to all the Bloods, all the Pyroles, everybody bang bang, all right? We gone, all the people, all the human beings out there. And we out. Well, that concludes another episode of the Gangster Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the iHeart app

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