The Breakfast Club - GARY OWEN in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast

Episode Date: January 18, 2026

Comedian Gary Owen joins the 85 South Show podcast for a hilarious conversation. The episode features anecdotes about his career and personal life, including stories from the stand-up circuit and his time in the Navy. || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They'll fucking kill you up, right in the middle of the show. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. I've been waiting to tell this story on this podcast about the dude in Oakland, the DeMarcus cousins.

Which one? The one we did, we filmed it. Oh. You don't even know the story, but I can't wait. Jayree. Drop me about 30 seconds word for Pippe right quick, man, I don't need bus some Piper, and that's all. Hey, Jay-O-Bee.

There you go. See, Gary, we don't listen to music over here. is pimping on me. I like it. You feel me? I made this with Kim My God. Thank you. Is that why I got the little guitar twang?

Yeah. He's from Ohio. They don't fuck with it. We got Bootsie Collins. Come on. Hey. Issey brothers. Come on.

Ohio players. Ohio players. Yeah. Tech Nine. My mom. My old family's from Cleveland. Oh, really? Yeah.

You can't forget, bone. B'em. B. B, B. Bones. On the music side. They still. You been out there?

You been in the Yellow Springs? I did it during COVID. You've been out there. This motherfucker got a whole town, bro. Yeah. Yellow Springs? Yeah. We used to go to summer camp there when I was in sixth grade.

Every year we went through, what the hell is it called? Camp current, uh... I can't remember the name of it. We went out there for a week. Dave Chappelle got a whole town, bray. They got a dispensary and everything. They said it is like the camp. It is.

Nice white people everywhere you look. And you know you know you. your black ass is only there to see Dave Chappelle. That's why they have to do. Did you notice when I did it, it was election year. That was the Trump Biden 2020 year. Yeah. As soon as you get up the highway, it's Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

As soon you get Yellow Springs, it's Black Lives Matter. Oh, wow. And the rainbow flags. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely rainbow. So they're a little, they're a little oasis got there. It's like a bubble. Yeah.

I see the rainbow American flag over there. Hmm. Some strange shit. Now, Gary, before we even get into this, I know I fuck with the car is heavy, and we recently discovered, you got a whole-ass dunk out here. That's yours.

I ain't mine. I was probably fronting on Instagram. I front a lot. You can't believe everything on the internet, bro. I didn't tell us this. Believe it in this, Gary Owens' car, it was like a 73 Impala or something. Oh, I think that was Russell Peter's car,

and I was driving it. And I took a picture like, that was Russell Peter's car. He had Russell Peter's car. You don't even, you want all the car blogs, like, Gary Owens, fuck with the Owls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, he know how to market this shit.

Because I, you know, Russell's so generous. You know, Russell? Yeah. If you go out to L.A. and you're cool with them, who just be like, stay at the house, what car you want. I don't know him like that. No, no, I didn't know him like that either.

That's the crazy part. I called him to be on my podcast. He said, when you're coming out, And I go, you know, Thursday, let's say. And he was like, all right. He was, where you stay in? I go, a hotel. I go, man, stay at the house.

This is we had the house and hidden hills, like right next to the Kardashians. So I was like, all my soul was hitting hills. I see I probably stayed there. Yeah, yeah, that's all right. He had this huge house. He was by himself because he just broke up with his girl at the time. That's crazy. He was just chilling.

So he literally like, all right, he had like five cars. He goes, take one. So I took the dunk. Oh, look. And I was like, he just took pictures like mine and shit. Talk about that That's wild Yeah, bring my car back

Man Bring my car back I thought you had Then dropped a quarter mill On the old school Borrowed it He didn't take it The car shows

And everything He didn't want a car show With somebody else I'm gonna go back and find The post I'm gonna send it to you Because I was like I did not know

He fucked with the old school He's big on sixes And everything I could lie Yeah But I didn't want to get in the conversation You started asking me About spark plugs

And shit Right Right Right Hey man, welcome back to the 85 South show. We got a very special guest in the house with us today. He's been threatening to come for five years. O-G, man.

He said I didn't put him on the show. I was like, I didn't fucking know you would come on here. I knew he would come probably. I didn't know. I thought he would be like, no, I ain't fucking with that. Because we'd just be over here talking shit like we do. You know what I'm saying? I was like shit.

We don't let nobody go to bathroom no more. You just got to hold it. You just got to hold it. You just got to hold it. Yeah, we don't let nobody go to the bathroom, but none other than the very hilarious Mr. Gary Owen.

Yeah. Mr. Gary Owen. No ass. No ass. Oh, man. We do that. No edge. We do that.

Shrooms. Kroger's. Kroger's. Joe Burroughs. Exactly. Yeah, man, you know, Black people, we love to make some shit plurial. Yeah, you do. Yeah, man.

And then your shit is specific. It's Owen. We know a lot of Owens. We don't know no Owens. Terrell Owens, Jesse Owens. Candace. We don't fucking with Candace. But there's- We got, well, there's Clive Owen, the English actor.

We don't know. You know if you saw him. You've been in a lot of movies. Uh, Sin City. You've been in some other stuff too. What the fuck make you think I'd be watching Sense City? Hey, man, this is the only thing I could think of a long time. Mm-hmm.

Gary, welcome to the trap, man. Thank you, Matt. How you been? Good. I feel safe. You are safe. It feels good here. It's fortified around here.

We got some of that shit. I made sure I came during the day. Yeah, this is Antonio Bendez couch. We flipped that bitch over all the guns under that bitch. It's exciting. Yeah, man. I know what you meant by that. That's all that for me.

Yeah, that motherfucker. And they're not just loose under there. They're fitted. I was like, damn. To the bottom of the couch. Flip that over to the door. Then we just get to pulling out all kind of yawks and stalks. Spray did that do that.

You were in the military for a long-ass time, right? Yeah. Six? Six years? Navy? Mm-hmm. And you said, that's where you kind of, like, started fucking with the jokes and shit.

I knew I wanted to be a comedian. I just didn't know how you did it. That was my dilemma, too, because I was from a small-ass town, and we had no... You're in Mississippi? Yeah, we have no entertainers, for real. Like, not other than, like,

motherfuckers who would go and play, you know, music at, like, a bar or something shit, They were like the big stars. Nobody came through? Nobody came through. Nobody. Only people who came through. And my whole step there was like,

Morgan Freeman was a regular. He wasn't doing no common. He owned a lot of shit in Mississippi. It's a cool story about him, too, that he actually went to John Deere to buy two of those big-ass tractors, like the big $700,000 tractors. And he was just walking around

and nobody would help him. So he went across the street. And he bought two of them. It was like, fuck y'all. It was John Deere, and whatever their competitor is, he went over there and bought some shit. Who compete with... Well, I mean, whoever fuck make trackers,

it's the number two in every industry. I'm trying to think, too, like, what is the number two? I don't know, but they read. John Deere is green and these motherfuckers is red. Okay. So that was a cool. But he was a regular, because he's big into, like, you know, not the politics of Mississippi,

but, like, the representation and, you know, the tour. And they have, like, a blues bar? Yeah. Yeah, he got some shit down there. I think he's from around Clarksdale way. He's from the Delta over that way. Where are you from?

I'm from Oxford, the bougie part. That's where everything's 18 miles per hour or something, right? Yeah, Archie Manning. Well, the speed limit. Oxford, Ohio. Oh. The speed limit at Old Miss is 18 to honor Archie Manning. Like around the campus.

They change it. Oh, okay. Instead of 20. Yeah, okay. But if you go 20, they ain't go. But if you go. You go 30, they're on your ass. You go.

You go 30, they on your ass. Yeah. Yeah. But like I said, he was a regular around Oxford. John Grisham, the author, the author from. Yeah, Jurassic. Oh, not Jurassic. I wouldn't know what he looked like.

Time to kill. Yeah. Cool, white dude. Cool as fuck. That's a good movie. Yeah, he used to let us have baseball practice in his yard. Like all this. John Grisham?

When we were like, because he got a son that's my age. He was on our class. So he got the big ass, all these acres. And he would let us come out and, you know, play baseball at their house and shit. And Charles Barkley came through, randomly. We were at school one day, and Charles

Barkley showed up and gave these speeches to all the kids and gave everybody a T-shirt. You can still see them T-shirts around the Oaf. Banner, when he started touring, he came through. But we didn't really get a whole lot of people through that. We get a lot of, like, white celebrities. Like that one lady, you ever seen Chasing Aymie?

I know the show. You know the movie, Jason Amin? What makes you think I would have seen Chasingham? Because I know you should. I don't know. I don't know. Clerks. You know clerks?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Kevin Bob. Kevin Smith. Yeah. Yeah. That white girl with the funny voice, she live in Oxford. Now? Yeah.

She played, she was Amy in the movie, Chinese finger trap. That's who I. She lived in Oxford. Chasing Amy. Where's the cast? Her? Yep. Joey Lauren Adams.

Yep. Okay. Eli Manning lived in Oxford. He went to. He had to. Yeah. He was a cool motherfucker, drunk ass. He liked them beers.

So you were saying, comedy, you always knew that that was going to be your thing. Like, how did you get started with it? Was it just, like, funny dude? Yeah, I was class clown. Most obnoxious in high school. I did get upset because I was prom king, but they didn't vote me most likely to be famous.

And they voted this guy named Chris Jones. But the prom king ain't never the one who's, like, most likely to be. Melville's class clown and most obnoxious. So you felt like stacking these awards. Yeah. And you got prom cake. I'm like this.

So I'm going, I was really one of the most likely to be famous. You're going to take all of them. And they went to this guy named Chris Jones. He was going to Air Force Academy. So I remember I pulled him aside. I was like, uh, you know pilots are only famous when they wreck. That's fucked up. That's what fucked up.

I hope the man is still alive. I hope he ain't go there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's like a shout out to Chris Jones. There he go right now. I'm sure he watches. Man, you've got the strangest relationship with the breakfast club.

Why? It's like every time you go on there, like they give you shit, they make fun of everything you got going on. I can tell somebody that shit be bothering you a little bit. Nah, it's funny. It's all content. I tell everybody, all my beefs are fake on the Internet. I don't take none of it serious.

Everything I say is just content. Yeah. So even when they come in it, because they make fun of me about the Netflix thing. Right, right, right. Because I've been told no so many times. They tell you no?

They say, uh, our, it's, our budget is done for the year. You gotta get in January. And it's only what time of the year you hit them. It's always the same answer.

It's like this. Uh, I only think they're watching it. It's fine. That's crazy. Yeah. I'm like, the only thing I'm doing not now is waiting

on. them because there's been two times they got me where they had me on waiting for, five months on the answer, and then they just say no, and I'm going, well. Right, right. Do you even give a fuck? Not anymore. I think in the beginning, like five, six years ago,

because it's almost like everybody was at the birthday party, but you wouldn't invite it. Yeah. You're at the door like, yo, I'm happy for everybody against them. Right. I'm going, you know, what is it is. I got a funny story about this guy. Okay. I don't think he's ever heard it. So, 2019, Demarcus Cousins did a special...

Comedy slab. Yeah, yeah. Amazon. So he went up right before me, right? And I don't ever really watch anybody when I'm on them shows like that. Stay in my dressing room because I've seen comedian psyched themselves out

as somebody's killing, right? But you got to go up five minutes before you go up because you're up next. Right. So I go up and Carl's up there. He's killing him. My first joke was his last joke. And I went,

talk about fucking sweating. So in Oakland, they always say hella. You tell you hella funny. You hella slow. You hella good. He goes, man, you motherfuckers out here. You're he was hella for everything. And I'm going, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

He's like, no, no, no, my God. Oh, this motherfucker here. And it was, it was so bad. That was going to be my first joke. Like, you know, you guys in the bay, heller means everything. And it's like, you had to be there. Yeah. He didn't take it for me.

You never saw me do it. Right. So I wasn't thinking like, oh, somebody told him. I was like this. I go, it's just one of the things comedians thinking like, right? But you got a reposition. What? Fuck me, dude.

Especially you only got like five, ten minutes. I think we got 10, 15 minutes on that show. Yeah. And my shit was like, say it right off the bat. Oakland, hell of funny, hell of slow. Right. And then I had a call back at the end. And I go, well, fuck.

The beginning of ends, fuck right now. Yeah, you got a chop day. I went up there like, yeah. I just got into it. I figured, I figured it out. But it took me like, minutes. It was like a standing eight count. I was like, ugh, uh, oh, oh, oh, oh. And somebody said, they go,

you figured it out real time. You figured it out on stage. Yeah, yeah, because somebody said, was you nervous? I go, no, Carlos, man. He said this hell of joke and they was like this, because you was flying the first two minutes. You were like, trying to get that laugh, you know? Yeah. I was like this. But it wasn't a knock on him. It was just funny because I was going, when I saw it happening, it was you motherfuckers into Oakland, man. You see,

you, we got a hell of girls. We got a hell of Halloween. I was like this. Okay. There goes the callback at the end. There goes the first joke. Yeah. Damn. My bag, yeah. It happens, man.

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podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Didn't you say some shit that got them on? Like, they was on your ass. You said the wrong football team. No, no, that's what I train.

transitioned. Okay. I said, you got Raider fans and 49er fans. Oh, they hated that. Rader,

and as soon as I said that, the Raiders are just like, Raiders. Yeah. They wouldn't shut up. And I, I just, the joke was,

you could die at a Raider game. Yeah. You know, they're fucking, Readers! Yeah. Like, if you wear a Bronco, they'll just fucking stab you.

I was like, it's fucking Tim Tebow. Right. Protected by Christ, bro. And I go, if Nider fans ain't gangster, and that's when they started

booing in a fun way. It wasn't like, booed my fucker, we can ask the two. Like, why do you, why are you acting like that's a good thing? Right, right, right. You can get stabbed in their stadium is next to six flags. I always stay away from teams because that shit is so touching. It is, facts. We were in fucking Boston and D.C. was like, fuck the Patriots.

All of them was up there. I was like, why didn't you do that? He should have been right, though, because there's mostly white dudes on Patriots when Brady was there. No, they weren't there. Not that girl. The other ones. It was, there was some more.

About the D-line? Yeah, this. But you know, but they know why. He said that. You can't be from Atlanta in, not Super Bowl. That's real tough.

Yeah. Like, they get it. They got all the Super Bowls. They got all the Super Bowls. They would be crazy, but they'll be bad. Who's your team? Pittsburgh. Oh, that's a motherfucker here, man.

The Steelers, man. I'm a Bengals fan. Oh, you know how the Browns fan? Cincinnati, baby. Go, Burrow. Why? Wouldn't that have they ever been good? They just went to the Super Bowl three years ago?

What you're talking about? What do you mean? They didn't win. I'm saying they went. What does that mean? Man, you got, dude. What? You're hella negative.

You're being hell of weird right now. We're in the fucking Bengals. You're hella loyal from Mississippi. What made you like them? I grew up there. But that, they weren't ever been good in your life time. Yeah, they were. They had boomer-sized to Nicky Woods.

That doesn't mean shit. They were just two-wheel twice when I was growing up. They keep going. They got to win. They will. Bring me back. next year. They're not going. Bring him back next to

this year. Who plays for the Bengals? Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins. What? We. That's not enough motherfuckers to win. He's got a 99 on Madden. That's not enough people to win the Super Bowl. That's whatever. I don't like how y'all

doing my cousin should do up. I don't like this shit. I don't give you. It's Ohio. That's the whole other team. I don't give a fuck. Oh, my God, Georgia Tech. I don't like how you motherfuckers Did AJ Green? No.

I'm gonna fuck. You ain't a yellow jacket? Yeah, but shit, still. Somebody should make a call. This is bullshit. Watch. What do you talk about? Should you do it?

Yeah. Because they let him play that first game? No, because they fucked and fucked all his money up and drafted him all late. He knew he was better than it. He was already rich of them. I'm going to give him a fuck about that. You don't get to decide when the motherfucker go because they already got money. If you think about it, though, he didn't treat them different because he got a daddy and shit.

It was really only like. like six teams that were passing on him. Like, most of the teams weren't, didn't need a quarter times. Five times. Yeah, but he was like the six round fifth, 50th, eighth, fifth. But we got to realize, you know,

Kansas City wasn't going to take him. That was out of the question. So when they passed, it's not really passing any quarterback. They don't need a quarterback. Right. They're acting like the whole NFL pass them where really was five teams that needed a quarterback. So it really wasn't like 32 teams passed on him. It was like the five. You know what I mean?

It's fine. He had folks who was watching. Because folks was watching deep into the... I didn't know they televised this deep. You want me to smoke some weed? Yeah, you need to calm down. No, I was... I was true.

Because I know you didn't smoke weed. It was like this. You need to bring it down a little bit. You're right. Yeah. I just know you didn't smoke weed. Mississippi, slow pace, cool, cool, weed. But I don't understand why you don't smoke weed.

You're a comedian. I tried it a couple times. It just hurt my throat. The rasping. Whoa! I knew that was going. I knew that. I didn't step myself off for that.

Hey, yo. Man, that was, that was, hello. You can have body parts when you talk about shit. Man, my goddamn. Because that's a man, why the fuck is something hurt in your throat? That's raspy. This part hurt. When you secure your sexuality and you know if you don't go that way,

you can say shit like that. You scared to save my neck, brother. And man, you know, I do a lot of research and shit. And I heard. You say that the motherfucker you had opening for you did some dirty shit and told on you. Yeah. Yeah, a dirty motherfucker. You can see him at a coffee shop near you.

I don't even know who it is. That's my point. You never will. Damn. That's the opener? The opener? So when I got, when I got DeBorris, we was a mediation. And my ex, we were pretty, pretty cool.

And she just goes, Gary, I know about some of the girls. And she was wrong about 90%. Okay. But 10% she was right. Right. Right. Not that there was 100. Right.

Just percentage. Percentage wise. She named off this name. She goes, I know about boom. And I went, wait a minute. There was only one motherfucker on the planet and knew about her. And then he told her that he got fired because I found out he was sleeping with this girl behind my back. I didn't know he was sleeping with her either

so not only did he tell on me he was when I fired him he was open for you on stage and with his hope yeah damn that's crazy and then we knew we listen I wasn't under no pretense I was the only one with her everybody

she was she was cool like that dirty diameter she was good people she was friendly but I'm like but what point are you going behind my back as a sopranos you die for that shit.

No, he went behind your bag twice. That's the dope. That's why I didn't kill him. I killed his career. Damn. So, he'll never blow up. Damn.

Ever. Damn. It was older. The second he gets a little heat. Damn. Gary, that's fucked up. It is fucked up. Don't do him like camera.

That was a good idea. You see this? Good one. I'm not paying him $7,500, though. No. No. That's so fucking lame, man. Lame.

Totally like That was your boy? That was my boy Yeah I let him go in 2018 So you gotta realize The divorce happened in 2021 It started

That's when you started talking to her I follow you on Instagram That shit was sad It was all right I'm saying Like when you was like When you was like Rebuilding the relationship

With your kids and shit That's what I was saying Okay thanks For real I was like damn Let's talk about football again No I like how

I like how where the story ended up going You get what I'm saying? He's like, hey, we're rebuilding. We back talking. And I was like, that last one was heavy. When I saw you, when you went to the graduation or something shit, and he was like, I'm just going to chill.

See my baby. Oh, yeah, my daughter. Yeah, but I ain't going to go over there. And I was like, damn. I was respectful. Yeah. She graduated from A&T and I went. And then they was like, don't.

No, but you did something that you don't see a lot of men do, though. Like, you never gave up. Like, you kept pursuing. Like, you kept being there even when you weren't. there the way you wanted to be it still meant a lot. Like later on down a lot in the grand scheme of things that you still show. That's the goal.

Yeah, yeah. You always got to think about that. So I fuck with you on that one. Well, it's also you got to tell men too, like when you get a divorce, you know, don't lash out on the baby mama because the kids see that. You can't lash out. Behind closed doors, when you're with your close friends,

then you can drop whatever you want. Right. But on social media, it's like, it's no win. And you know what I learned through all that was like, um, internet is not real life. It's definitely, when I say I was locked up at the four seasons in Baltimore for two weeks.

I was under Mohammed Shabazz because the processor was trying to serve me. So I was hiding. Right? And they knew. You picked that name. They knew I was lying because when I order breakfast, I get bacon and eggs. It was like, what?

Mohammed Shabazzett. So, you know, I'm two weeks. I'm in the hotel. All I'm doing is reading every couple of days. A new blog comes out. Everybody knows why we're getting divorced. Getting dragged by everybody. And then as a man, you don't get to tell your sag.

You just kind of got to take it. Yeah. But the first show in Baltimore, I'm going to say about 45 minutes. I ain't lying. I got on stage like, how are these people going to react to me? And then it was nothing but love. and then about 45 minutes in this lady in the back just yelled, I love your little cheating ass.

I go, you don't know how bad I'd hear that right now. It just hit me like the hardcore fans and the people that really fuck with you. And you guys know, on the internet, people be dragging you, but you never see in real life. They don't see anybody going on. Because those people who do that, they don't buy tickets to shit. No, that part.

They don't leave out the house for the most part. Right. I got to tell my guys now, I got my guys that are on the road with me and they'll get all fluster with a comment or a post. I go, dude, worry about the people to come see you live. Yeah. If somebody comes to you live and makes a comment, like send you a message, like I enjoy this, didn't enjoy this.

You paid to see me. I'll have a back and forth. I've had a lot of back and forth with fans and then it turns into something positive at the end, like, well, you know I'm still going to come to you. That's been like that joke. You know what I mean? But they paid to see me. If you just going off something you saw off the internet.

A lot of times they're wrongs, too. You respond to them, and that's all they wanted was to respond. They'll back down the media. Hey, man, I was going to fucking with you. I want to see if you was going to say anything. You're like, how about home? Bro, but the Baltimore Comedy Factory, that's a rough-ass room. Oh, that's one of my favorites.

What night do they usually fight on your weekend? Oh, they fight? Because you know they're going to have at least one fight. Oh, no, I don't have that. I have at least one. I think I got, I must have the uncles of the people going to your friends. Because you know, you can do a three-show set? that second show, that's where all the fighters be.

Really? Hell yeah. So I know I'm getting older because my third show is at four. When they say you want to add, I'm adding to Matt May. I go, ooh, I age down to the midnight show. Facts. Every time I add shows down, they're like, 4 o'clock. I'm like, what happened to the midnight show?

No, no, no, your fans aren't awake at midnight. Yeah. So I prefer the 4 o'clock show. Now I'm like, all right, I'm still back in my room. I mean, you know that midnight show on the night. three notes, like that shit is on your ass. Like, you feel all of them first two shows. Like,

I wanted to ask you this. I know you've been playing most, like, all black rooms forever. You ever play all white rooms and be like, what the fuck is going on? Nah. There was a time. Do you ever play all white rooms? Yeah, all the time. There was a time. No one of them

frowned out you're a secret Asian. You got a little bit. A little bit. A little bit. I thought you'd just be in the hood shit fucking around. Let me find out you a mainstream act. I'm going to Fox News, suddenly leave here. 85 South to Fox News, baby. I was going to say you cover all babies.

Right to Pio Von, right after that. Yeah. Joe Rogan? No, that's all. No, I do remember when I first started doing stand-up, I was doing all the quote-unquote black nights in L.A. So that's Fat Tuesday, Mobetta Mondays, chocolate Sundays.

And even on the weekends, I was doing like Mavericks Flat and all the places. and Compton, so to speak. So I do remember when I started getting more white people with my shows, I go, oh shit, my act, I got to work this so everybody gets my jokes. I can't work. Easy for it.

Right. For you, personally. Now it doesn't matter. Right. Now it doesn't matter. In the beginning, you know, a lot of my actors is just trying to, honestly, you're just trying to get women. It's a lot of your acting, how beautiful black women are.

So it's like, you know what I mean? You're just trying to get something after the show, hopefully. Right. Right. Dance or something, little Destiny's Child. You say, no, no, no, no. Then you say, yeah. That was my jam, boy.

Back in back. I used to dance in the whole song. They go, is he gay or is he not? What are we going on? You know what's a good three minutes on? When I came out to Desi's Child, the women loved it, and I was not a threat to the men anymore. Like, yeah, my fucking with some dude.

Is dancing a Desi's Child. The whole dance, the whole thing. What was your experience like hosting Comic View? Because that's totally different pace of just like doing a weekend or doing a night, bro. You were the host. Well, you know, when I hosted the year before I hosted, it was the contest. Yeah. They only had like 30 of us maybe.

They only accepted 30 comics. There was three an episode and you would win your episode and you moved on to the next round. And it's just the stars lined up. Like I kept winning my rounds. You went four rounds. then you get a half hour special. Okay. It was an hour special,

but you only had to do 42 minutes because there was a lot of commercials and ads. Yeah, yeah. So it really was a 42 minutes better than you filmed it. So when I became the host is when they opened it up, no longer a contest, and that's because Def Jam went away.

So Def Jam was no longer around, so it made comic a few different than Def Jam was a contest. Def Jam was just a showcase. Def Jam goes away. Company was like, oh, we can be the showcase now. And that's when they opened up to like 300, comics. Okay. So the year I post it, oh my God, like you look back and, Grant, there was

285 comics you never heard of, but Epps, yeah, Kat Williams, Monique, yeah. Everybody was on that season, that D-Ray, everybody was coming on that year that we didn't know they was going to be who they are. Right. You know what I mean? That was wild. But they would just, honestly, it was just like, I would just go up there with Ronaldo Ray. That's a legend, man. Yeah, we had so much fun. So glad we got to meet Rinaldo. Shout out Rinaldo Rade, man. He came to Uptown for a weekend when it was on Marietta Street. You remember when he came?

He set all the comics around and he bought everybody's drinks and he just told us all these old-ass stories. And it was just one of the coolest things because he didn't have to, you know what I'm saying? He would take me, we would get done film and Comic View and he'd take me to like, like some training day shit. We'd show up for some building in L.A. that had a gate, and, like, he hit a buzzer, and the motherfucking gate open, you came back, and then you go back there, and it was like dolomite. Oh, those players.

Richard Roundtree is. Oh, back, where the fuck are we at? Some young girls, everybody had champagne. He didn't think of the blessed. I read a crystal back to the gold rappers. And we're all about, yeah, stay down. And then he crossed his legs, and then, like, hey, this is my young dude, man.

We got that TV show together. Come on down, Richard. it you know i just like i didn't say shit i was just a sponge on the wall i was like you know what i mean and it's the good thing about someone like rinaldo and stuff their stories were true they weren't lying yeah you know okay the last time i worked with him was at the emerald queen casino in tocoma washington and he fell off the stage i'll never forget it the the indians there was like you can't drink well ronov drinks every show He drinks his champagne on stage.

So he drunk to champagne. He drank too much. He was telling a joke, bro, and just fell. And then he rolled back up on stage and finished the joke. And champagne never spilled. He went, you just saw a glass up. And then he rolled back up and went, and then I told that bitch. Are we not to acknowledge?

He didn't say shit. He just kept it moving. That's hilarious. He rolled, though. Rolled back up. And then I told him that there. That was my last time talking to him. He had the whole stories because he was around Richard Pryor.

He saw, that was the last time I talked to him. I think he saw, he knew something that clearly I didn't because he was reminisced about all his contemporaries had passed away. Remember, we got something to eat before the show. And he was talking about Red Fox. And I was going to be comedians. And he was like, he was like, yeah, I'm the only one left. Everybody gone, man.

It was almost like he was coming to grips. Like, I don't have much time. I think he passed away probably two years, three years later. Yeah. Very shortly after that. Because he was sick for a while. I think he had a stroke. Yeah.

So he was kind of down. Yeah, Red Foxx was definitely his guy because that's the drinks that he bought everybody. He made everybody drink, Grandma, yeah, and orange juice. Oh. That's what we used to drink. That was in L.A.? That was in Atlanta. Plan on that. Okay.

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and you ain't know Richard Pryor was in the crowd. Yeah. Well, no, we knew he was sick. This was before the Kings of Comedy. So this was probably 98. I did in LA, right? They had a comic store. And they said, Richard's coming.

And I was like, and everybody was, you know, he sat down at his booth, had his two people with him. And they told all the comics, no pictures, don't go up to him. He just wants to sit and watch the show. And so, all right, I get off stage. One of Richard's guys come on and said, Richard wants to meet you. And I was like, all right.

So I go sit down and two things happen. That was funny. One, he asked to get a picture with me. And I was like, all right. I said, well, can I get my camera so I can remember it? This is before iPhones and all that shit, right? I'll be right back. I run to my truck because I had like the yellow

Ketitia. Right? I'm looking at what we can do in LA. You don't ever know who you're going to be. I'm young in the game. Yeah. I come back with my camera. That fucking security guard lifting me up. Move over.

We said no pictures. I go, he asked me. He asked me. And Richard was so soft. He goes, it's fine. You know, he was sick, but he was still coherent. And then he whispered in my ear. He goes, you're funny.

He goes, don't have a chain. And I was like, I was like the last dragon, like the gold. The globe. Right? Yeah. Why am I watching Oprah two, three years later? Monique's on Oprah. And Oprah goes, when did you know, Monique?

When did you know you have it? She was, well, I had a show, and Richard Pryor was in the audience. And after the show, Richard pulled me a thigh and whispered in my air. Don't change. Don't have a change. I go, what's this small? I was saying to everybody? Yeah.

So you guys some whack comedians that are like, I'm not going to change, which Richard Pryor told me, Dolte. Not saying that Monique is one, though. No, no, I'm not saying that. You know how the internet is. Yeah, yeah. I told the story before, but I was like this, I was going, I was seeing her watching Oprah like, no.

It's kind of like when you was on stage in Oakland. No, no, no, no, no. Because at that point, I was like this, that's my Oprah story. Yeah, yeah. I'm saving it for Oprah. Yeah, man. Delche. This thing been telling everybody that.

That's crazy, though. That might be how he just wanted to never fuck over the next. I mean, you know what I'm saying? I mean, it could have just told me of Monique that too. Yeah. You know what I mean? It could have been just made y'all too. Yeah.

Remember, we were the last two to show up at Oakland. We had that long-ass band ride. Yeah, I think you were tired. I said, I talked about my podcast. I go, the comedians don't realize other comedians could be tired because I was on 10 because I lived there, so I wasn't tired. He got off the plane. I think he went to sound check and you was checked out.

I just want to go to the room. I ain't going to sound check. Yeah, it's kind of pointless. How fucking hard could it be? We're not musicians. up or down. It's usually up. Facts.

Not fucking showing up at 2.30. Go of no fucking sound check. I sound the same way everywhere I go. Yeah, that was apparent. You don't want to be there. Not at that point. At that point.

He don't want to go. We was in a man at the back. I'm trying to have a conversation with Carlos and every answer is like, yeah. Nah. Uh-huh. Like, where are you coming from? Another state.

I was, you know. How did you get here? Good. Right. It's like this. All right, man, we'll see you tonight. But it was tired, right? So I went on my podcast and I talked about, I said, man,

sometimes comedians, we can get in our own heads because it's like, hey, what the fuck I do to Carlos? Like, you ain't never did this. That's what I'm saying, but it's funny. That's why I like podcasts, especially because I do a lot of them by myself. Like, you will have a self-therapy session because I sat there and realized, oh, he didn't do nothing. Because he was just tired from the flight.

Yeah. But there's some comedians that some people be like, man, I don't like Carlos. I don't give a fuck. A fucker quiet to himself. I don't like that my fuck of fucking mind his own business, man. Yeah. I'm sure there's a few.

And then there's some people you meet and you're like, oh man, he's seeing standoffish and who wabby then. Then you talk to somebody else and you like, no, that's how they are. And then you get around them another time you're like, oh, they're not standoffish, they just stay in the same spot and they're not going to do a lot of, you're like, yeah.

What about this? You ever forget this? Some motherfuckers don't light up till some white women get in the room. I'm about to say. So, bingjas get around, niggins get... Niggins get...

Making drinks and all... You're a boyfriend. No, no, no. Now, he can juggle. You juggled. Hey, let me take the funniest. One of my dudes would be on the road with me, right?

I'm never forget we was in Oklahoma City. He's laughing like, you know? This motherfucker is late for everything. He was late today to get me here, right? He's always late. We was in Oklahoma City. and these two white girls is at the bar. And then he goes, this had to be 15 years ago.

He was like, I don't know how they got my info, but the one girl called and she goes, are you guys at the courier, man? And I was like, yeah, she goes, okay, we're on our way. I go, why does she call him me? I think he used my phone or something. Okay.

So I called him, I said, hey, that white girl's coming with her friends to the hotel. I got to let him in the lobby because one of them, you got to let him in. He goes, all right, this motherfucker was like on the 20th floor. I was on the 10th. I hung up, walked out of my room, when the elevator, and when that shit opened up, he was on it.

I go, how don't you punctual? I said, how did you get to the elevator fast? He was just sitting there like this. Dress, though. Hat, cock. I'm like this. Oh! I see what it is.

I've seen that shit happen. No money. No fun of the time. Hardcore gangsta-ass rapper, bro. We go out to the ball with him. I don't know whether, I know what you're talking about.

I know what you're talking about. We ended up being the only three black dudes in the club. This motherfucker, a whole gangster now. I look up, this motherfucker asking the white girls, do I get some yager bombs? I'm like, what's the fuck? What the fuck in my sense? Yagerbombs is a panty droplet.

There is those whitest drink you can get. You took me back to high school. Let me watch somebody, old man, whisking, but a yager bomb? A yager bomb. That's crazy. The crazy thing is, Yeagerbein's that ain't even real liquor. That shit ain't even liquid. It's like liquor.

That shit like a melted Twizzler and some shit. Yeah, I ain't understand the appeal of that Yeager, man. Yeah, I don't get it either. Gary, you ever had, who was, like, who would you say would be your biggest hater for you being a white dude? Oh, my God. Do you have somebody who just hated on you for that? You're talking about stand-up or in life? Just stand-up.

On the comedy side. Because you know, comedy beef is way different. Yeah, I don't know. It seemed like you can catch it from both sides, though. I heard some white comedians going on me. I was like, well, I don't even know that dude. Like at a left field unsolicited. Yeah.

Yeah, there was one guy named Joe DeRosa. You ain't have to name him? Well, it's fine. Oh. I don't know if he's got to name me, I can name him. Yeah. I really don't know what I did this dude. He went on the pockets.

He goes, and that Gary Owen, you know, he deals the black shit, and it's offensive. It's offensive. He acts like, I know black women and I know black people. He goes, and he does it. I was like, yo, where did this come from? I don't think I've ever met this man in my life. What you do, man? I don't know where he came from, but I was like, I see him out there now, like,

in the algorithm sometimes on different podcasts, like, he's stand up. So it'd be good to, like, talk to him. Like, hey, what I do? I had to do something to him. I don't know if he featured for me and I was cold that day. I have no idea. But the way he did on that podcast. What if you took a black girlfriend that he had?

Ooh, could have. That's true, too. Maybe. Because you never know, man. Sometimes these motherfuckers hate you because you remind them with somebody that, you know what I'm saying? Funny.

I didn't do that. Yeah, I didn't think about that. I'm like this. Huh. It could be it. Be careful out here, man. That's what the weed do. He'll give you a quick little therapy.

Yeah. You just got to be around it. I'm starting to get secondhand smoke high. It's all this. I'm not going to lie. You guys got any free dose? Yeah. We bring some chips over.

No, we're good. I got to go in a minute anyways. Oh, yeah, you got a drive, bro. Let's talk about the new ship. The new special. Oh, yeah, it's on YouTube. Let's go. Okay.

It's called no S. Yeah. I see you been doing the crowd work, too. You've been working in the audience. Well, here's the thing. I think we've all done crowd work, right? Yeah, but I just finally bit the bullet and said, I got a full-time camera guy now.

Always with me. I got a full-time editor. And we just filmed the show. and sometimes it looks like crowd work, but it's really not. Like the one that hit last month, the paper straw was on where the guy, security guy was there,

and I was imitate like four people. It was at the Baltimore County Factorily. That was back in February. That wasn't necessarily crowd work. I got interrupted. Like they had such a heated discussion. I go, what's going on right now? So it wasn't like I was up there about to do crowd work.

Right. But that's where it comes up. Yeah, there is crowd work. But it's also like things just happen, you know, on stage. Your audience fights. Yeah. Mine just argues over straws.

Yeah, because the mom audience. Yeah, your argument would turn to a fight. Sometimes they get so excited and they get fucked up too fast. Like, they be fucked up. Like, earlier that day they had smoked like three blunts. They didn't drunk like a whole Don Julio. Now they had to show fucked up way earlier. Then they usually be fucked up.

And that's, you know, like kids get sleeping. They need a nap. Yeah. Same thing happened with grown people as opposed to saying, hey, I need to lay down. I'm cranky. They just start shit. So I'm going to say that next time.

If there is a time when somebody starts to fight in my show, hey, this ain't no Carlos Miller show? What the fuck y'all doing right now? That's crazy. You hella whack. And then when they don't fight, I'm going to be like, man, y'all acting like Gary Owens in this bitch. With y'all talking it out.

You don't act like Gary Owens in there. Man, y'all knocks like shit. I bet you woes. Here are the one. You don't want to do. No, but the latest specials on YouTube is called no S. We just went over a million. That's what's up, man.

To keep people to catch up for a lot. Come on, man. Especially when they tried to say it was all short-form stuff. They tried to make us that comedy was going to die. But you just trying to make it seem like, bro, you ain't you. We give you your flowers all the time. You're cold on that mic, man. I appreciate it.

you to really be that humble and not be an actor is crazy, man. A hour ain't shit to you. We don't know. I see you rip all the stages, man. And all the- I am happy. Very consistent with the work, Gary. I appreciate it.

All the Comic View comedians, my grandma used to let me watch Comic View with her. So it's like a special place for the host and stuff because... Yeah. You might have been the one white person she fucked with. I think I'm the only white, on-air personality that ever. Like, I had the reality. show on BET, then I got the host

of the Comedy View. People like, you're the, people obviously say, you're the first white host of Comedy View. I said, well, I was only White House of Comedy View. Yeah. And then the, it's funny, I go out like eight, nine years ago to pitch reality show and BETT bought it in the room. And then I was like, dang, out of all the networks we went to, BETT bought that shit. Tell the what the fuck you was about to say?

BETT about that shit. You said, all the networks. I was like, you're like, shit. You think he got this far about being sloppy? I'm not going to get this blood too close. Oh, no, what is in that weed? All the big is in that room. What the fuck, man? I'm throwing away right here.

This is not what you throw it away. I'm going to be like, Burmamp. I got to edit this. I need the footage. I got to edit all this out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This didn't happen, you guys. This is not happening.

I promise you for like a second. I was like, what the fuck is he doing? Oh, you should clink that shit. shit up, Gary. Yeah, networks. Networks. There was a lot of networks in BET. A lot of networks going on in this motherfucker, man.

It's kind of like we're at now. This is a network. Yeah, this is a network. 85 network. Right here. And, man, Trump got everybody on his. You're stupid. I got to bounce, guys. This is a mini but mighty show. This was a mini

but mighty show. I'm glad I got to do it. I'm glad you guys came in on your day off. If you're mad that the episode ain't longer, you blame Atlanta traffic. It's all my fault. It took me a fucking hour to get here in traffic. How long have you lived in Atlanta? That's why we don't shoot around this stuff. I haven't known that.

20 years. The traffic just hit you today? No, but every time we have to shoot early, it always get fucked. Because I got to come from all the way on the other side to this side. It's already far. I'm going to tell you what I told. first time with the London and I had the

opener that did the bitch move on me and I had the same one at me I didn't do it the same guy that the same guy that likes white girls in Oklahoma City was there they got the London night before me it's about an eight hour flight

from Cincinnati to London they're out partying because the time change I said hey I'm about to take off I said listen have fun tonight party what are you going to do I said my flight lands is six one of you need to be at the airport when I get there. I've never been a letter.

And I'm, I'm paying for the trip, right? So I was like this. One of you just be there? Yeah. Both of them. Neither one was there. I'm talking. It got to about noon. I ain't heard from these motherfuckers yet. So I was at the hotel. They was at a different hotel because I had us at the nice shit. They was at the not so nice shit.

They start calling me a noon. Like, where are you at? I told the front day, I said, I'm not here. Don't let them check in? Nothing. So I come down in lobby, the little gym. was right next to the lobby. They were all standing there looking at me. I walked by him like this. I'm on a little lytical.

They was at the glass looking. I think I was on lyrical for two hours. There's a little bit of sitting there. This is why I told him. I said, look, if somebody told you there was a million dollars at London's airport, just be there 60 and to pick it up. You would have not have overslept. Right.

I was like, treat me like I'm a million dollars. Right, right. So. Oh, you ain't shit to me. No, I'm doing it. I got a balance. No, you got to drive. You got to drive.

You got a half. Hey, damn, gal. Carl. Carl, I get it. All right. I get it. No, like white people like to be on time. We do.

I was here early. I think I got here a three. But I ain't gonna let you. I was like, oh, I ain't gonna let you leave until I give you a gift, man. I'm talking about, I can't wait. I love gifts. That's a big shit, too.

Now you swag. Oh, it's the hoodie. You swag now. This is going to be awesome in 95-degree weather this weekend. No, you don't wear it this weekend, but you do live in Ohio sometimes. Oh, this is a whole sweatsuit with socks. Yeah. Absolutely.

Thank you. Hey, man, we appreciate you stopping through that. This is awesome. I know this your first time. Don't let it be the last. Watch. I'm going to wear it. Next time I'm going to wear this on the show.

All right, bet. Watch. Well, you know where we're at, man. You're more than walking to stop back to. We got to do a long way. I got a long way to Tuesday. Get it on. Bam.

I can't close box. Close that box. Who's back? Bro. Let's get a flick, man. What's doing? Then you can clap. A new year doesn't ask us to become someone new.

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