The Breakfast Club - Good Moms Bad Choices: Misconceptions of a Wild Mom

Episode Date: October 4, 2025

The Black Effect Presents... Good Moms Bad Choices! Motherhood doesn’t mean losing your identity, your sensuality, or your freedom. This week, Erica and Milah confront the outdated “perfec...t mom” stereotype and challenge the idea that motherhood means: dressing conservatively, hiding your sex life, or being ashamed of smoking weed. This episode is a reminder that you can be a loving, responsible parent and still show skin, smoke a blunt, and have good sex. It’s not about being reckless, it’s about being real. You can expect to hear: The biggest lies society tells about “wild moms” Why it’s perfectly fine to smoke weed How to survive your hoe phase after motherhood The importance of showing kids how to properly clean themselves, even if you need to include props and Nutella Why Banana Republic and kitten heels might be a crime against moms everywhere The line between freedom and “put some damn clothes on, mom!” ------------------------ Watch This episode & more on YouTube!  Submit your advice questions, anonymous secrets or vent about motherhood anonymously! Submit your questions   Catch up with us over at Patreon and get all our Full visual episodes, bonus content & early episode releases. Join our private Facebook group!   Connect With Us: @GoodMoms_BadChoices @TheGoodVibeRetreat @Good.GoodMedia @WatchErica @Milah_Mapp ------------------------------------------------ 🏝️🧘🏾‍♀️ Good Vibe Retreat 🏝️🧘🏾‍♀️ Our summer retreats in Costa Rica are almost here! Book now, pay later because healing should fit your budget too!! Option 1: July 31st- August 5th Option 2: August 8th- August 13th Use promo code ESCAPE at checkout for a deal you don’t want to miss. ------------------------------------------------ 🥰😝🍆 Spice up the bedroom🥰😝🍆: LEXUS: An innovative couples' sex toy set that's designed to sync clitoral vibrations to your partner's rhythm and closeness. Its ergonomic design seamlessly enhances your intimate moments, heightening pleasure and deepening your connection without disruption. Check out using this link and thank us later!! https://feelrobotics.go2cloud.org/SHJM   Kiiro Toys: Theres something here for everyone, trust us! ------------------------------------------------ 💊Take your Vitamins! 💊 In the spirit of growing up, it's also time for you to grow up and start taking your vitamins! Check out www.Blackvitamins.co and find the best vitamins for Black Women, by Black women. Use Promo code GoodMoms20 at check out! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:04 I'm Erica and I'm Mila. And it's a Wednesday motherfuckers. It's another good Wednesday, y'all. And we are here at the church of Good Moms to speak to you the good word of the good moms of the not-so-good world. How's it going? Amen.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Hallelujah. Let the words to say, say, amen. We need to get some of those, like, orchestra. Wait, where are our sound effects? Orlando, cue the sound. Oh, my God. We do need sound effects. I need a button.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I need to be like a producer. I know. I think that we just need to invest in our own little pad right here. And we just do it ourselves. Like, we know our comedic timing. When I start to preaching, I need some organs like the organ sound. That's it. I'm getting another one of those.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I'm putting in right here. We need to get those sounds popping. Asap. have everything on Facebook Marketplace. You know, this is not a segment, but I'm just going to make it one right now, and it's called Mom Tip of the Week, and the Mom Tip of the Motherfucking Week, and about the year is
Starting point is 00:04:06 go on Facebook fucking Marketplace, because you can sell and buy pretty much anything. I'm pretty sure you can buy exotic animals on that, bitch. You could literally, you can't, you can buy land. I was looking up land in Costa Rica on Facebook Marketplace, which that's where they're selling it, because you know, like, the old people, they're on Facebook. That's where they're selling
Starting point is 00:04:24 their land. Don't tell anybody that. Oh, sorry. never mind really yeah girl you can buy farms on facebook well this is another announcement i want to buy a farm we want to buy a good mom's farm it's going to be like a community where everybody has duties and like we can just leave the world and go off grid and like deliver our own babies and i don't know source her own water and make her own fires and i don't know i think it's time that we're going from podcast to community we're going from the podcast to the good moms community if you want to apply to move to the community it's a tribe style living you know we have like two people babysit once a night we
Starting point is 00:05:02 rotate everybody gets free time yep i love it i love it yeah also if you want to donate to building the property of in our land on costa rica you too can have three vacations once the once the once the bungalow goes up you can have three vacations with your family there if you donate five thousand dollars so that we can build our road in costa rica this is a community land that And so if you want to be a part of the Good Mom's community in Costa Rica and you want to have a time share on our land, send us your paystuffs. So you can make sure that you can afford $5,000. And then you two can stay at our property, I don't know, three times in the next three years for today's. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yeah, it's 30 days. It's a month. 30 fucking days. $5,000. I mean, that's a steal. That is a steal, right? Yeah. Your family can come.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I'm actually not kidding. I know you're not We're going to vet you I'm going to look you deep in your eyes And I'll know you're fucking psychopath That's the vetting you looking deep in somebody's eyes Yeah I'm pretty good read on people
Starting point is 00:06:06 I could look in their eyes and be like that bitch is crazy Says every bitch ever I knew she was crazy when I looked into her eyes But I ignored it anyway I just did that recently Fuck You ignored someone's crazy in their eyes Yeah
Starting point is 00:06:21 Yeah And then they're crazy Yeah What would you say the indication of crazy looks like it's like something in the eyes it's like a dead it's like a deadness it's like a little bit of a deadness in the eye
Starting point is 00:06:33 or like you're just not all there it's a dead or like it's like a crazy eye like it's a little yeah it's like one is big one eye is bigger than the other you know what it is like one eyes bigger than the other or it's this the dead eye where it's like a little helpless and lost
Starting point is 00:06:49 that's just tired mom it's overwhelmed mom I don't make eye contact Oh, yeah. You know, the hard part about filtering out the crazy people to the same people is that I hate to break it to everyone, but like 90% of the people right now are crazy. And I don't even think it's their fault. It's just like the state of the world, plus society, plus Western, everything.
Starting point is 00:07:13 It's, you're lucky to find a sane friend. Well, to find sane. What is your version of sane? My version of sane is self-aware. um not like crashing out more than like like not crushing out like only crashing out like once a quarter yeah not like every day oh yeah i i feel like luna recently luna used the term crash out she went to uh i just realized she went to a play date and she was like yeah i was playing with so-and-so and she just got
Starting point is 00:07:55 so mad and she started crying and crashing out. Actually, I think she told me that the girl who got beat up at the school would crash out. Oh, yeah. I'm like, hi! That's what it was. She was like she crashed. No, she said somebody else, but she said that too. She said that too. She said she crashed out in the bathroom. Luna went to school and her friend got beat up in the bathroom, got jumped in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:08:11 This is fourth grade, guys. At like a very predominantly Caucasian charter school, I was very shocked. I was like, wait, what happened? Apparently one of the little girls calculated. This is what I thought was very interesting. basically I said how was the last day of school she said it was horrible it was the worst last day of school I've ever had and I said whoa what the fuck happened she's like I can't wait to tell you the tea first of all she can't wait to tell me in Orlando the tea especially this fucking gossip queen or Orlando over there because he loves he's a messy bitch so he's telling me yeah so so so so and so called my other friend into the bathroom and beat her up and I was like what do you mean I like why she's like I don't know last Last week she said, she's like, must have shoved her or said something to her.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I said, whoa, wait, let me get the street. Your 10-year-old friend calculated this for a week and then proceeded to beat the girl up in the bathroom. She said, yeah, she told her other friend last week that she was going to do it. She was going to wait until the after-school party down the street at the pizza parlor, but I guess she couldn't wait. And then furthermore, she asked another girl to stand by the bathroom and watch and wait as like to make sure like no one came by. Yes. Oh, my gosh. She kicked out?
Starting point is 00:09:25 no I don't think so what the little bitch was at the party after after school she was at the party I I realized at this moment this might have been a bad choice I was cracking at that is that your bad choice of the week that was my bad choice because I was like she was like I was like no she didn't calculate it I said what the fuck did she do to her I said what did she say to her for her to wait calc I said that's a crazy bitch she waited a week I said I don't know any 10 year old who has patience and calculations enough to wait a week to beat somebody up and then plan it and then I was like so bad mom I was crying I was like you and your friends are soft I can't wait to see how who this little girl grows up to be with all this patience she makes like a Russian mobster
Starting point is 00:10:09 so I was like was she Russian yeah I was like you know Russians don't fuck around I know I was like why were you crying she's like I was scared and I was like girl you better you know I better not I better not hear about anybody beating you up. You better not be soft. And then I laid her at night. I was like, sleep. I was like, fuck. I should have never said that.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I was like, I lack emotional maturity. Now she doesn't think it's okay to cry when her friends get beat up. So the next day I tried to like smooth it out. Like, remember you told me you're crying at the fight? She was like, yeah. I was like, it's okay to cry. Actually, when I saw my first fight in the sixth grade, I was pretty hysterical too. And then I just relived what I said.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And I was like, ha ha, she's soft. What the fuck is wrong with you? I don't know. I don't know. It just seemed. This was caught off guard. I was completely caught off guard by the conversation. It was hilarious at the time.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I needed to know more details. And I was just like, I was like, damn, your friend's soft. She got beat up in the bathroom. I was like, I need you guys to get your fucking boxing moves up. And then I realized that was not the best reaction to the fight. And then I got home like, tell Orlando. Orlando, guess what happened at school today? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Oh, my God. But, yeah, the kids are getting more advanced. Be careful. I mean, that's why kids need to know self-defense because, first of all, the school called me saying Luna got beat up. I'm coming to beat a little 10-year-old's ass. And I don't even think they called the girl's mom until, like, wait. Yeah, I don't know if they didn't call her or something. But I was like, this is absolutely insane that this girl.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And then she said that the other girl who was the lookout, she was like, she went in the bathroom to find her friend. She's like, oh, don't go in there. And she's like, why? And she's like, I don't know. And she went there and saw the bitch of wailing on the other girl. And I said. Did she try to break it up? Ludo was just like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:12:05 Oh, God. What are you doing? And then the girl ran was bleeding and shit. Bleeding? There was blood? Yeah. There was blood. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:12:13 These little bitches are crazy. That's what I said. I was like, not in this fucking charter school. I didn't see this coming. I didn't even know there was any, like, there's not even really really cat. girl beef like that so this one little bit she took it to the next level she's had enough of her shit okay she had enough and the my luna had told me one time that that girl tries to like she told me she was like i told my other friend that she tries to like manipulate her and i was like manipulate her
Starting point is 00:12:37 she was like yeah she tries to be the boss of her and then i tried to remind her that she said that and i was like didn't you say that that girl be manipulating and like trying to be the boss of people she's like yeah but she's been like she's not like she's not like that for real she was like trying to make excuses. I was like, that's what happens when you're manipulative little bitch. You get beat up in the back. I didn't say that, but I was like trying to be like, well, didn't you tell me something about her?
Starting point is 00:12:57 And she was like, no. I guess I should have also tried not to justify her getting beat up. Oh, my God. Did you ever get into any little fights when you were in Luna's age around that time? School? No, not in school. One time my father dropped me off in the hood. What?
Starting point is 00:13:13 Of, like, the hood of, like, West Philadelphia with, like, my very hood. and um yeah i got in a fight there and then he came to pick me up probably like five days later because my parents were fucking dropping me off wherever and i had flea bites and sorry it was like it was it was it was it was a numbers house do you know what that is no what's that at numbers on the east coast people who play numbers it's like a gambling house oh okay so not only did he dropped me up in the hoodie hood hood hood and i had to be like 10 maybe nine it was a numbers house which means there are gamblers and guns. Who was there?
Starting point is 00:13:52 Like, who was there to watch you? My gambling uncle, nobody, bitch. And he came to get me, and they were like, he was like, came to pick me up, and they're like, look, she could fight. And he hit me in my face, and I was just like, and I'm pretty sure it was a boy. Like, I got to fight with the boy. Your dad watched this happen? He was just like, okay, time to go.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And he'll never forget it because every time I was like, remember the time I drop you off in the head, and I picked you up and they're like, look, Miles, she could fight. trauma lovely so in addition to my flea bites I did get in that one fight
Starting point is 00:14:27 but a lot of my fights that I've gotten to were like as adults not like as a young adult like in my 20s but I realize that my problem is I'm better now but I can't
Starting point is 00:14:37 let go with shit like if some I think the one time I do remember fighting somebody like outside the club is it was a girl was talking shit and someone had just told me
Starting point is 00:14:46 and I was like really I just saw that bitch And she didn't say shit And then I saw her at the club And I was like, don't say anything Don't say anything And then she like slid by me And I was like hey
Starting point is 00:14:55 Somebody told me that you said blah blah blah She's like what the fuck you talking about And I was like bet Then we left the club And then I think she was talking some more shit And then we just fought her Oh it was a group effort It was a group effort
Starting point is 00:15:08 My friend Shawnee was there Actually I wonder if she remembers But I was just like I could have just shut the fuck up And let it go I could have just been like Oh okay this bitch she was talking shit She wasn't my friend or anything
Starting point is 00:15:18 but no no no no no no I had to say hey bitch are you talking shit because I just saw you last week and you ain't say a motherfucking thing so it's the Philly and me and I think it's down to a 5% at this point so I don't think I would be getting into any over 30 fights but that was really just the only time I think that I can think of from the top of my head
Starting point is 00:15:38 what about you no no adult fights well sort of not really it was like a bitch in the bathroom that was taking like I was knocking and she got mad and she came out swinging and like we were like fighting through the door. We're like fighting through the crack. This was said Casa Vega, not Casa Vega,
Starting point is 00:15:57 Mexicali. You had to be drunk as shit. It was Cinco de Mayo. Mexico? Wow. It was single to my. It was so back with that one. Yeah, Mexicali shot,
Starting point is 00:16:07 if you're a valley girl like me, you know where Mexicali is. It's actually down the street from here. You know, it's still open. I know. The food was never even. It was horrible. It was so bad.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I just want to know how the fuck are they Underage drink, that's why. It was like, you know, there's certain, like, L.A. spots. There was a sushi spot on sunset. There was Mexicali. There was the spot over in Encino. Oh, the spot. They didn't have a bar, though.
Starting point is 00:16:28 They just had hookah. You could have hookah, but you could be, like, 12 during hookah. I was at, I was at, like, 4 a.m. When I was 12, I don't know why. Yeah. Of course you were, because it was down the street from your house. Yeah, I can't with Mexicali still open. That food is horrible, but they are obviously still going strong.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Wait, so you fought them through the door. And then that was it. And then, yeah, and then, like, she, like, bust through and, like, ran out. And I was like, bitch, get out of here. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm not about to fight. You know, I think, like,
Starting point is 00:16:55 I've never really had a lot of fights because they've, they've just never fully escalated. And then also, I'm not scared to fight, but also, like, I don't want to be in, I don't want anyone to hit my face. I don't either. I was very much, like, I don't even,
Starting point is 00:17:07 it's not even that deep to me. Like, actually, the fact that you are jumping out of character lets me know that I've won. I've won. Because now you're acting crazy, and I'm just sitting here like I was giving very much Kimbella like still pretty but except
Starting point is 00:17:22 didn't get in the fight That doesn't count I think I think not too long ago Like the last couple years Me and Danielle went out to the club At the W I don't know what the club is called right now And we were waiting for an Uber
Starting point is 00:17:35 And apparently like this white lady Was also waiting for the Uber And she got into our Uber And I was like this is our Uber And she's like what the fuck are you talking about bitch And I was like And I was like And then she was
Starting point is 00:17:47 You're like, I couldn't believe you hit me. I was like, yeah, bitch. And then we got in the car. And I was like, I really went to punch her, but she just got that one. Yeah, but that probably like, you know, sometimes it's all you need. This is like a. You're just like, you're going to talk about it for like three weeks. And then I poke that bitch in the face.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Sometimes it's all you need. You just need a little tiny bit of action for a long shit talking session. And this makes me know that I probably need to go to boxing or something more aggressive because there's some, obviously some angst that needs. to be released that anybody could get poked. Yeah, I mean, I think when you start doing those type of thing, at least that's what I think about, like, with Shikam, because he's so, like, calm, but he could also, like, kill you in four seconds is, like, once you start, like, tapping into those type of modalities, boxing,
Starting point is 00:18:33 kickboxing, moitai, like, you realize the power that you yield, and then you're like, you don't even, you don't even use it. I don't know if I have any moitai power, but listen, baby. No, but when you, if you did, I'm just saying, like, once you start doing those type of practices you actually don't even really utilize them as much probably i mean i don't really utilize them now but apparently i have some some things i need to get out so i fought my mom a few times oh lovely so ghetto yeah me and my mom slapped each other around a little bit once is that what we have to look forward to and free like adolescent healing like i hope not i don't
Starting point is 00:19:10 i like i can't oh my god i can't even imagine iris smacking me they're fucking huge i think luna tried to get like buck with me like and i was like and i was like i'll fuck you up i might black out i would black out i think i yeah i get it that's probably why your mom blacked out she's just nuts i mean nuts plus the mom plus the black out you know like but i had to tell my mom at a certain age like yo you talk like there's been a lot of times again my mom is grown a lot and she is from philly but there are times where i'm like you do realize i'm a grown ass bitch and you keep talking this shit girl and it's not gonna be mom daughter it's gonna be bitch on the street. You're using bitch on the street language.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And I remember, we're in the car, and I was in the passenger seat, and this is a while ago. I think I told you, we were friends. Luna was in the back seat, and me and her were going back and forth, and I was being really conscious because Luna was in the back seat, she was five, but Luna was in the backseat talking shit, too. I remember this. My mom, you better. I was like, oh, God. I was like, everybody's ghetto. Everybody in the whole family. I was like, I was just like really like, I was really just like praying, like, get the fuck out of the car. We got to just shut the fuck.
Starting point is 00:20:15 up and get out of the car just i was just like looking at her and i just look back at luna and she's like mom that is not i was like let's get out of here before it goes south we're all in jail mom daughter gram daughter the lineup the lineup a five-year-old a fucking 20-something 30-year-old Luna crying yeah everybody's crying it's looking just the like oh man this are my ghetto confessions these are my confessions Oh, my goodness. Anyway, dear God, please don't ever let me have to get into any physical altercations with my child because that is ghetto and we are moving on from that.
Starting point is 00:20:56 We are healing. We're healing our lineage. No more ghetto fights amongst our families. And I promise I won't drop off Luna any trap houses or number houses are in the hoods. Amen. Except that one time I did drop off of the projects in Harlem to go out. Forgive me. anyway um have you made any bad choices this week um have i made any bad choices this week um have i made any bad
Starting point is 00:21:33 you keep putting me on the spot i got to like really think about this i had sex on the couch and then my friend came over and sat on it I don't know if that's a bad choice it is your couch I know but I like kind of got wet it was like you know who's your friend oh my god they're like why is your couch I'm not gonna tell you why is your couch damp I dried it I put like a blow dryer on it yeah okay yeah when you come back to my couch it's fully clean now which couch don't worry about it now I'm not gonna sit anywhere I'm like no no no no I'm cool I'm gonna stay I'm gonna go on the backyard into the grass everyone knows that your couches are to be
Starting point is 00:22:15 fucked on and everyone's couch has been fucked on and you've sat on it including i've sat on your couch that you've been fucked on of course i don't even go to people's couch just thinking you fucked on it i just like my mind already knows that you fucked like you you know just next time you lay your head on someone's couch to lay down when you're tired just know that someone's ass was there too and maybe semen okay no there will be no semen on my couch there will be no Because I got that green velvet And that shit shows You don't put no cement on my couch
Starting point is 00:22:46 In fact I feel like some people were like trying to fuck on my couch And I was like, hold on, hold on guys And if I got all these towels like Okay Because I don't know It took a lot to get that couch up there Huh?
Starting point is 00:22:57 I said it took a lot to get that couch up there That couch is gonna If I leave, it's staying I'm not taking that That took six grown men I know we both got couches on the same day Remember we went to that fucking warehouse And bought those covers?
Starting point is 00:23:08 You're like I'm getting a On fucking Facebook marketplace I had this poor land about this cheap little couch It did this good for like six months And Erica was like, I'm at the couch place I was like FaceTime me, I need a new couch I was trying not to hurt Orlando's feelings
Starting point is 00:23:23 that we needed to get a new couch But it was time And so she was like slowly panning this like one one place I was like, wait go back Yeah yeah yeah yeah see they'll give us a deal for that too For the two couches I don't think they gave us the deal But we got them anyway
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah we did And then I had a party And then I really needed to get the couch up And so I was like, I told Orlando, I'm like, once everybody gets here, I'm going to make all the men go get the couch from the garage. He's like, okay. So we're like, oh, yeah. And that's like, okay, before we get too comfortable, everybody, I'm going to need you, you, you, you know, everybody with a penis. Follow Orlando to the garage.
Starting point is 00:23:55 We need to take this big ass couch up, two flights of stairs. It'll be easy. It's going to be great. And then they came back sweating profusely. It was pretty intense. I mean, I think that's a great plan because what are you going to, you're drinking my liquor. You're in my home. Come on.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Come on. The least you could do is bring my couch out. Yeah. Those people may not ever come back. over my house ever again but that reminds me of in costa rica when we like went to the poetry lounge and we waited for them to just recite all their poetry for them to then come help us get the car out of the ditch thank god that car i just asked i was just asking gilly about that recently oh my god i do have another bad choice speaking in gilly shout out to gilly
Starting point is 00:24:30 the god who uh in purto i went to his house because we had a long wait before we like between checkout and leaving and his baby oh my god it feels so bad this is a bad choice he's one and i was eating like plantain chips and i was like giving him little pieces and he's like sucking on it and he was like getting excited because they're salty and then i must still like give him one and he got too excited and then he started bleeding and then his little gums and i was like and gilly you know it's their first kid gillie's baby mama was she's like oh my god with the dick of the hospital gillie i was okay everybody keeps then gillie's cussing her out why are you not watching him i'm like it's my
Starting point is 00:25:09 fault. I gave him chips. It's my fault. He's like, she's the mother. He's yelling at her. He's bleeding. I was like, we don't need to go to the hospital. It's just a chip. Everybody keep calm. I was like, are you breastfeeding? I was like, put your boob in his mouth. Just put your boop
Starting point is 00:25:25 in his mouth. Because he has teeth, right? Or not really? But they were sharp. We probably like, they probably like cut his little gum, baby. I felt so bad. I was like, I'm terrible fucking auntie. I'm not going to anyone else's house. I text her later. you can't be giving people babies foreign foods you shut up you ain't got no kids
Starting point is 00:25:44 exactly anyway yeah I'm like damn do I lose my my baby feet like I don't know shit about my kids 10 I don't fucking know anymore I gotta relearn myself I thought you were gonna say something worse honestly what she choked or something no no I mean because I remember one time I fucking gave Iry a goddamn apple a little piece of apple and she fucking choked and I literally saw my life flash before my eyes. Were you home alone? I think every, has every parent experienced this? Like when your child, you give them popcorn.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Are they choked? And then you're like, do I remember any of the high-lick maneuver? No, I don't. No, I don't. All I know is I'm going to go to jail. Yeah. Actually, you know what's so crazy about almost dying? It's like you'd never forget because I was, I choked on a piece of candy.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I know what kind of candy it was that, like, you know, the candy that looks like the strawberry and the packaging? Oh, yeah, yeah. And I lived in Alabama, which had to mean I was, like, two. Like, I had to be, like, one or two. I was a baby. Or, like, three? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And that shit got lodged in my throat, and I never forgot that shit ever again. And I'm 37. I can, like, remember it, like, daylight. Because when shit gets stuck in your throat, like, there's, you can't even be calm. No. Like, you can't even, like, it's just, it's terrifying. Even when something goes down the wrong hole, sometimes you can't, like, catch your breath. Even when people are around, I'm like, I'm going to die.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Jesus, yeah. Don't kill your kids, guys. No. When we go through our second iteration of mothering again, we're going to have to, like, revisit a lot of things. Like the Heimlich maneuver. Like the Heimlich fucking maneuver. Like, what the fuck do I do with this kid?
Starting point is 00:27:24 Like, I don't know. I think it was going to be like a whole new starting over to remember. Because when I gave that kid and he started bleeding from the mouth, I was like, oh, God, I am not a good mom. Aw. Yeah. Well, you know, first-time parents are going to, freak out they were freaking out flip it out i was like oh god not gilly yelling at her
Starting point is 00:27:42 she's yelling at her chill out gilly i know i was like relax she's the mom she should know i was like oh god what are you doing yeah he was outside he was outside cutting us coconut and stuff off his fucking tree i felt really bad so um shout out to gilly and tess i'm really sorry baby pharaoh i'm a good on i swear um speaking of motherhood and small children to large children and all the children in between God's children, we have a very special list to bring to you today. Very, very important. And it's the five misconceptions of the liberated wild mom.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Break it down, baby. Number one. So, as you know, good mom's bad choices. It's foundation is built on breaking. Breaking stereotypes Breaking the glass Getting out of this bitch And when we first were birthed
Starting point is 00:28:45 Seven and a half years ago We were really Adamate about not falling into The trap The trap and the constructs Of wet perfect Oh this is a word from our book Of
Starting point is 00:29:00 Fuck We haven't smoked yet I know okay Jesus Oh fuck Oh Toxic motherhood Toxic motherhood syndrome
Starting point is 00:29:12 Yes We coined it because we're smart And it's in our book And if you haven't gotten the book It's called Good Mom's Choice Good Mom's Guide to Making Bad Choices It's available everywhere And we wrote it with our own brain
Starting point is 00:29:23 Not chat GPT Our own hands Our hands and our brains Every word no ghost writers bitch No ghost writers No nothing Just us and our brains and our pen Because I don't even like to type
Starting point is 00:29:34 I just wrote it down because I'm fucking strange because I'm still living in the 1940s I was like Eric it's hard to type and I got to write it She had 22,000 notebooks Literally I put them on this I did like see them
Starting point is 00:29:47 If there's any doctors listening Tell me if this means I have problems I have to see them all at the same time I can't even turn the page I literally was in Mexico with Orlando And I taped every page next to each other So I can remember what I said already And so that it would be like
Starting point is 00:30:02 My eyes needed to see them like that I mean that makes sense okay thanks because like yeah probably i wonder how redundant i was well that was my thing like i only know so many words how many word time did i say the same fucking word over and over again i literally was like am i smart do i say the same terms like i really had a hard time but i one of the things we talked about in the book is toxic motherhood syndrome i think that was it we also talked about toxic positivity but one of the things we birthed this podcast is because we weren't going to be like old haggish mothers we're still going to be fine and we're going to still date and we're still
Starting point is 00:30:37 going to shake ass and we're going to still you know do all the things that women do and so i thought today that we should discuss um just breaking out of those formats and the misconceptions of the liberated mom because i think this is really important for the women it's important for the men and society who use these standards to ridicule and be mean to women and to be judgy but most importantly it's also really important that um other moms don't hold each other to that standard and that you don't hold yourself to that fucking standard so if you're pregnant if you're thinking about getting pregnant if you're 10 years in or if you're fucking 20 years in listen at listen up see if this if you fall into this category into these categories and how you can dig yourself out of one and how you
Starting point is 00:31:22 can change your mind and stop going with the programming and think for your fucking self amen so number one this is my most number one one this is my most number one one this is my most number One, one. But first you do that, I'm going to light the backwood. Please. I feel like, step one, smoke a blunt. Smoke one. Step one, moms can smoke weed.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Step one, moms can smoke weed. Guess what, guys. I'm a mom. Look at me. Look, it's not crack. Are you acting crazy? I think my brain is still working. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Now, if you were like a young teenage mom and you get lazy and you maybe you have other things you should be doing. Wait until your frontal lobe develops before you start smoking lots of backwards. Or doing any extracurricular drugs. Like if you're doing a lot of extracurricular drugs, maybe wait to have a baby. But if you already are a mom and you're a teen mom, you should wait to do any of these things. Not any of these things, but these things. So I just want to say for the record, for anyone listening, for anyone who's ever snared their little nose up at us,
Starting point is 00:32:29 for who snared their little nose up at anybody else who's smoking trees. It is a plant. And if someone is indulging in plant medicine and they're still of the right mind and they're still doing their duties and taking care of their responsibilities and aware that their kids are alive and thriving, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Let the bitch,
Starting point is 00:32:46 let the mother. I say bitch with all the love in my heart. Queen, smoke the weed. It is of the earth. God made dirt, so dirt don't hurt, but don't smoke dirt. Smoke weed. Good weed. We get a lot of messages for moms who are like, I can't believe you guys are smoking weed. I'm so happy I smoke weed.
Starting point is 00:33:06 And I realize we're in L.A., so it's legal and it's, like, much more acceptable. And if you're in between states, there's a lot of weird shit going on around there. Don't let people make you feel bad because weed is not a drug. Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient. Still using yesterday's tech, upgrade to the ThinkPad X-1 Carbon, Ultra-Light, ultra-powerful and built for serious productivity
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Starting point is 00:37:22 I was talking to my home girl. actually shawnee my best friend is coming to town tomorrow but she has three girls she's eight years older than me and her girls are like now 17 and 18 16 and 18 and they just started having sex i was like did the girls have sex yet they're twin she's like yeah i told them i don't like condoms i said that's the worst oh shonnie shonnie no i don't know if i should have blasted her like this but and her kids Oh God Don't make this a clip Not pull it out
Starting point is 00:37:55 Not edit it out Don't make it a clip Don't make it a clip Shh Hide it in the port Everyone shh Hide in the catalog Don't tell her
Starting point is 00:38:01 And if one of you Bitches tells I know it's one of you I feel like that was a bit too honest Of her to tell her kids that But I also respect it You know her daughter said Mom that is irresponsible Oh
Starting point is 00:38:15 You know she's doing a good job You know sometimes you got to test your kids a little bit. I would have been like, yeah, that's what I thought. That was a joke. That was a trick. Because guess what? Nobody likes condoms.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Nobody. Never, that's step two. Well, you know what? As a young girl having sex or a young teen having sex, I did like condoms because I didn't know any better and I was scared. And I was like, yes, put the condom on because this is going to protect me and keep me safe. It's when you get older and then one boy, one day. says let me just put the tip in and then he put the whole fucking thing in and then you're
Starting point is 00:38:54 like whoa this feels a lot different and you're like never oh you're like something like when i was a teenager i was 16 in Vegas with my baby daddy because we were high school sweethearts and we were at a wedding for his family because we were inseparable am i codependent so my uncle my dad's friend came and got us to a nelly concert after the wedding we missed the reception so we go to the nelly concert and in the car my uncle turns the rearview mirror at us and goes I want to tell you guys something and I was like, okay never, ever, ever, ever
Starting point is 00:39:23 have sex without a condom because you're never going to go back and I was like, too late me and him are like he's right but yeah I think you should have uncomfortable conversations with your kids and I think also speaking of wild
Starting point is 00:39:37 or liberated moms one thing I'll say about a liberated mom is shout out to Shawnee you're going to be honest with your kids and your kid is going to know they can come talk to you so if you're wild you're generally probably more likely to talk about things that most moms won't and I think because of that your kid is less likely to get into fuck shit without telling you because they're like my mom's
Starting point is 00:39:56 fucking nuts I could tell this crazy bitch one time Luna was talking something about penises or like about we're talking about something and I was like she's like something penis and I was like do you want to see one she's like no and I was like okay I'm just telling you if you want to see when I can show you I did the same thing when I when I found out I was looking at penises on the internet I was she was looking at diagrams like they were drawings and I was like do you want to see a real one because like maybe are you do you need to know what it looks like and she was like no she's crying I'm like this is so dramatic I've been meaning to tell you I have a big plan for our kids but I figure maybe I should ask the mother first I was just going to do it but since we're here talking about it oh I this year I had big plans on busting out my my penis models and my vagina model let's start with the vagina but I'm down I was going to just I was going to do all the same time but maybe I'll do it in days and now she's just going to bring them in the living room and and just pull off the cover from them and be like, I want to show you guys something. And I think that we should,
Starting point is 00:40:53 I was going to put some Nutella on the ass. What? So I could teach them, like, how you wipe yourself properly, how toilet paper doesn't always do the trick. What? You assume kids no shit, but they don't know if you don't show them. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:41:14 And then I was going to tell a couple other, you know, important things. I'm really glad. you're telling me this thanks because i first of all natella's iris is a favorite snack so that's going to be really confusing i can use something else peanut butter like i don't okay maybe peanut butter since nobody likes peanut butter but you know you get the point i think now's the time i was thinking in my head i was like i was driving the car i was like yep that's what i'm going to do i'm going to bust out my models and i'm going to rip off the cover and i'm like it's time for me to teach you some things and i don't know if it's going to be traumatizing but
Starting point is 00:41:46 I realized, like, these are things that you have to learn. Like, if someone, literally something, like, the last couple of times I was in the shower, Luna, I was, like, lifting my leg up. I was like, you see how you open them? This is how you rinse. This is really how you really clean your vagina. I was like, the right side, the left side. And she was just looking at me, like, bitch.
Starting point is 00:42:06 This is the last time I take a shower. I mean, I've definitely, like, shown Iri, like, my vulva. And, like, this is how, I mean, she hated every moment. of it and she like barely looked at me when I did it but but you know I think it is important I think it's not enough to just be like wipe here's here's here's here like first of all the paper doesn't work second of all these are things you have to like like no and I realize that because someone told me that like a teacher was like she was at school and realize a bunch of kids didn't know how to iron or didn't know to turn on the iron or plug it in like step one step two and she's like
Starting point is 00:42:41 what the fuck and then she's like you have to realize that kids have to be shown visually for them to understand like you assume kids know things but that's the problem with these new generations they're dumb because your mom assumed that you knew things because back in our day oh my god did i just say back in our day back in our day it's called common sense now it's not so common so you have to break it down and show them so um maybe i'll include you can get models online they're not that expensive it's like maybe $30 and this is probably good for you and also you know what show I appreciated that you guys should also watch I don't know if you watch this is a good one it's a series called sex education I remember that
Starting point is 00:43:23 series and I was like obsessed and I really liked it I'm actually want to watch it again can you hey me the lighter okay sorry back to the list it's next to you number two misconception of a liberated mom number two I think is you have to dress a certain way this is my favorite one because everybody knows that I don't dress appropriately. Like you gotta you gotta pack it up. You got to put the hoochie gear away. You got to put those titties away. You got to put on pearls and stockings and
Starting point is 00:43:55 you gotta wear that college shirt all the way to the time. You know, I don't even, like, I don't even know if it's that extreme but I will say that I see like I do see like a difference. I'll see like a person that I'm maybe new in my like younger life, my younger outside life. And then they have kids and then they're like their whole style. Like it's like their style
Starting point is 00:44:13 just went to shit. Like what, like what We stopped shopping at the same places. Like they decided they needed to only shop at Banana Republic. Oh my God. I hate Rebecca. I fucking hate Banana Republic. I hate it. Like.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I really need you to join YouTube so you can see you Mila's facial expression. I'm so happy you specifically said Banana Republic because I hate it so much. It's my least favorite. You know, they had like one good season, but not even that. And it's overpriced. And it's like Kate Spade. even the gap or that one store
Starting point is 00:44:49 black and white oh god sorry the people are listening who are like I love that store okay so if you're listening and you feel ashamed good
Starting point is 00:44:57 listen good I need you to go I want you to stop this episode right now and I want you to go in your fucking closet and pull all the black and white
Starting point is 00:45:10 gap in banana republic you have out right this now right now and I want to I want you to lay it on the bed, and I want you to take a good look at it. And I really want you to really, really think about these choices and whether you can remove at least four of these items from your closet today.
Starting point is 00:45:25 You can remove at least four, because they all look very similar. Like, you got to, they got to go. However, if you're one of those people who've always dressed this way, this is, the gap is your style. If Banana Republic is all you, I have an aunt like this. Shout out to my aunt. I will never speak her name on camera because she is a very private person. Okay. Like, she would think she's famous.
Starting point is 00:45:46 But, um... She must have scared the shit out of you. She did. Absolutely. She does not play any... Like, she won't post any pictures. It's very serious. But she has always dressed like a fucking square.
Starting point is 00:45:57 That's been her identity. And I respect that. If you're just a square, and she's like, oh, I love square nerdy outfits. I love it. But, you know, there's like a conservative fashion or like... It's like New York. It's like... Yeah, there's that.
Starting point is 00:46:12 You know, you know what this is like... Couples therapy? No. Oh, what? Another thing you must throw out. What? The kitten heel. The kitten heel must go!
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yeah, the kitten heel. The kitten heel's got to go. If you're not going to commit to a full heel, this is my version of a kitten heel. This is it. This is the smallest heel I own. And this is because this is cute and they have a cool print. But you don't think the kitten heel looks good on, like, skinny long girls that are dressed in, like, little mini skirts? Like, what if you have, like, a mini skirt on with a kitten heel?
Starting point is 00:46:43 I've seen girls pull it off. Because there's this one girl that I follow, and she always is wearing, like, the fendi kitten heels. Is she lived in New York? She lives in Chicago, but she's always flying around, and she's like, she's like Dior. I was going to say, actually, it's a Dior.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It's the Dior. Remember I bought a kitten heel? Did I say something? Shh. I'm ashamed. Okay, so I went to, like, a consignment shop in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Of course. And the, but the consignment shop was hitting, okay?
Starting point is 00:47:09 Because no one has style there. And then there was this Dior. kitten heel and I was like I put it on and my mom was like oh those are in style my mom was like that's in style right now and I was like huh my thick calf with my kitten heel on
Starting point is 00:47:25 I'm like I don't know mom like it's not like I don't know if it's doing it she's like you just not the right outfit on I'm like okay have you worn them since bitch I sold them I sold them on Poshmark I'm gonna get a Poshmark I'm gonna put Poshmark just for skinny girls you know I think maybe I am biased because I'm short so it just doesn't
Starting point is 00:47:41 do anything like when I see long lanky tall girl with like mini skirts not like a fucking you can't wear a skirt that's past your knee and a kitten heel that is called church Amish or I don't know that's just I don't even
Starting point is 00:47:57 shame religions but it's just not it okay but you know if you have a short skirt you have to pair it correctly you can't just do all the gap in Banana Republic and a kitten heel but I do now that you said that about that girl that you follow I do feel like kitten heel screams
Starting point is 00:48:12 rich. It does. It's like the kitten heel and like the folding purse the foldable purse or the Chanel bag. The Chanel bag. Yeah. Maybe when I get rich I'll rock the kitten heel. When I start rocking kitten heel, you know I made it. When you see me with that
Starting point is 00:48:28 kitten heel, baby, you know I'm on the yacht. Okay. Oh no. I'm not going to let that happen. Please God. I don't care. How rich I get? I Yeah, I rebuke that That you have to dress a certain way as a mom
Starting point is 00:48:45 Like, I'm not gonna probably, I don't know I'm never gonna stick by that I'm gonna say I'm not gonna be 70 rocking my cleavage out Because that's a goddamn lie If I get these titties are still sitting I remember cleavage I mean I people would talk shit about I remember I remember actually my friend
Starting point is 00:48:58 Sebastian his stepmom Would always comment on my tits Because I never wore bra Before I had my boobs done I still never wore a bra Actually I have a bra on today Because I wanted to really push girls up but back in my other day when I had a size of bee tit I never wore a bra
Starting point is 00:49:15 you're a bee mm-hmm a small bee um and I remember her like commenting like Eric why don't you ever wear a bra like she and she would say it like she said it like multiple times and I was like why the fuck are you looking at my tits like why are you looking at my boobs and also I'm 20 that's why exactly but also I'm 37 and I'm still not wearing a bra so maybe it wasn't that but I just feel like I just feel like first of all your titty's out like I don't understand no one has a problem with you feeding their babies with these things but the moment you want to show them or they help balance out your outfit or accentuate something or you just feel confident or sexy it becomes this whole thing about like you just want attention I mean
Starting point is 00:49:59 also I mean people shamed me and I'm sure people are getting shamed right now at this very moment for breastfeeding I mean because I would bump a titty out anywhere because I'm feeding my kid and You know, I'd prefer to be topless anyway. But I, shaming women for breastfeeding and claiming that it's for attention is absolutely ridiculous. Shaming women for anything they choose to wear. Even when I catch myself thinking like, she should not be having that on. I'm like, bitch, stay in your lane. Keep your eyes focused.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Bitch. Let her wear the fuck she want. Because, you know, I have that club in front of my house and baby, they be wearing some shit over there. I mean, I have some, I know some people that do not dress what I would say would be flattering to their body. but bitch they're confident they looked in the mirror and they said I look good and I'm out and I'm out and I'm here for it okay because I said the same thing
Starting point is 00:50:47 and now I'm out so who the fuck am I to tell you any differently but I've I mean I've had Luna definitely be like I'm gonna put on this or that and I'm like no because this is my body you go put on what the fuck you want to put on and I think she just I asked her oh she said recently I was like how do you feel about me being naked all the time or something
Starting point is 00:51:05 because she made a comment was one of my non-friend's kids came over like a school friend and she I was cleaning I was like had no shirt on and she's like why is your mom have any clothes on she's like oh she's changing and then she's like then you just kept sweeping you just kept cleaning yeah and then you moved on to the windows and then you wipe the TV down and I was like well we're all girls like she's like little girls so I was just like am I and so I asked her how do you feel about me being naked or what do you think that means that's what I said what do you think that means and she goes that you're free
Starting point is 00:51:37 So even if she doesn't like it, at least that's what she equates it to. But I, um... So now do you put shirts on when her friends come over? I'll probably be more conscious of it when that little girl comes over. But all of my other friends are my friends kids, and you already, you already know. So no, but I'm like, God, I have to consider somebody else in my own motherfucking house. But, you know, I mean, because I will keep my shirt off with any guest over, like, Orlando's friends, male friends. Like, if my dad comes over, I'll put on a shirt.
Starting point is 00:52:05 But, like, that's pretty much it. no one gets special treatment this motherfucker but I I We're not smoking weed Because like this is something I've encountered Where like I smoke
Starting point is 00:52:13 I smoke I smoke Iris knows I smoke weed Obviously And when her friends Or when like she's had friends over And I'm like I'm gonna smoke I'm gonna go outside I'm like sometimes I've had the question
Starting point is 00:52:23 Like should I hide Like Because not because maybe their parents Haven't had this conversation with them And then now I'm the one That's brought this up And now I'm smoking dope in the backyard.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Well, how do they know if it's not a cigarette? Like, people smoke cigarettes. I don't know. So that's why. I don't think of it the same way because I think, oh, well, it could be a cigarette. You know a kid, you don't know what the fuck. But when parents... But they might know the smell.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I don't know. Well, if you know the smell, and your mom's smoking too, shit. Nobody's like, mommy, it didn't smell like a cigarette. It smelled like something else. I will prove it. But if the parent comes to get the kid, I hide. I hide the... She's like spraying down.
Starting point is 00:52:59 No, I do. I'll hide that. I won't smoke when kids from school are over. unless I'm on the balcony But I will hide all of the paraphernalia I'm not going to lie Because I don't need you You don't need those problems
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Starting point is 00:53:25 Mom gear Mom gear and sometimes When I have Well this is shout out to blunt blowing mama Good mom smoke weed It is like this big I'm like, maybe I'll just, I'm always like, come on, Luna, let's go. And that's also because there's not that many black kids at our school.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I just don't need any trouble. But then I'm like, bitch, this is your brand. Yeah, I don't, I've worn it to school. I don't really give a fuck. You know? No. You also, I feel like your school's a little bit more, like, urban. Not urban.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Kind of. I guess. But either way, we're in L.A. Yeah, that's true, too. like this yeah rock this I'm surprised by me yeah
Starting point is 00:54:09 rock the hoodie I feel like a lot of the a lot of the parents at my kids school shop at Banana Republic oh so yeah
Starting point is 00:54:18 yeah and then I don't want to have to I know all the girls at my the moms at my school ring skims exactly they're like in skims matching sets
Starting point is 00:54:26 with their butts done oh yeah oh they have oh yeah there's no BBLs at my school oh there's lots BBLs at my school the moms have
Starting point is 00:54:32 oh Body's done app, honey. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, my school's very... Are you her mother or her grandma? Who knows? Yeah, I get it. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Oh, it reminds me of on Abbott Elementary. There's an episode. Shout out to Quinta. Kinta. There's an episode where the mom keeps showing up to school and things that say like, slut, bitch. And then, so the teacher has a conversation with her, like, you know, some of your outfits dropping off little Johnny,
Starting point is 00:54:59 and she's like, oh, so you are stereotyping me? because this is my brand that I made $1 million in last year. And it's so that I can... That's us. Literally. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:55:08 oh my God, that's me. And she was like, and then she like looked her up and she was like super successful and like changing the word slut and bitch. And I was like, oh my God, is that me? I'm that mom.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I, uh, I just said this already. I don't know if I said this. Went to summer camp and they insisted on being fucking, they have all these cool activities that were like they could do. dance girl power aerial like fucking arrow movie making yeah and they chose girl power and i told her
Starting point is 00:55:40 we better not change it they call me from camp like your daughter would love to change the girl power and i'm like tell her no same we both were doing they both of our kids were calling us and we're both like no but you know what bitch's like we're girl power that's why well that's my i told her land there he's like i was like i am girl power you don't need any more of this shit you're the most girl powered girl there is because of me i was like we learned how to shoot guns mom i was like okay that sounds about that that was the only thing i was like i'm okay with that i was like i was like i'm okay um that's what we need to learn how to do loki i know fuck god we need to go we should come to the goddamn shooting range every week we say
Starting point is 00:56:11 fuck okay um yeah but wear the see-through shirt wear the lay shirt obviously we're to the appropriate place like to the dinner where it's dimly lit you don't have to wear it to the mall or to like a job interview depending on what job you're trying to get unfortunately we're just not that ahead of the times yet guys i you know every time i've ever had a job interview i really struggled in that department of outfits i sometimes struggle here because i can't be on youtube with my tits out look i'm just a little oh my god can we do an episode where there's like just something right in front of us and we're just like naked but like never just like no don't move like one leaf yeah in the jungle those can be our only fans episodes um what's number three baby um i don't know
Starting point is 00:56:57 because you have the computer in front of you oh i'm a reporter guys let me look it up um oh i think there's a big misconception about how oh this is a big of like your dating status as a liberated mom or like that you're bringing a bunch of guys into the house and introducing every guy you ever dated to your kids you're like having one night stands with your kid in the next room and you know that probably may happen if the babysitter goes home but like i think there's this misconception that women who are single and dating as moms are just outside outside not paying attention like doing reckless shit i i agree and that's just absolutely most moms are just not reckless you're not going to no matter how reckless you are personally you're
Starting point is 00:57:41 well you know i'm going to just say that if there's like a learning curve when you become a parent because if you were reckless in your before a kid life you don't just become unreculous suddenly when you become a mom there's a learning curb that happens so you might actually be outside a little bit and then you finally fucking learn there's a lot of things i mean it could be because of but there is something that switches yeah there is something that switches and you just become more mindful and yeah there's there's things that happen and I think that like when you become a single mom because there's not always the support that you need there like there are times where you might bring the guy home and
Starting point is 00:58:19 the babysitter went home but the baby's asleep so you're like all right fuck it right you know and it's like I don't think that there should be I don't think we should be shamed for that like the kid is sleep like and there's a door and a lock between me and any child that it wakes up yeah like i don't know like the internet is so weird and people are so sensitive and people's have experienced their own bouts of traumas and i get all of that but it's like at some point like we can't just live in fear of everything and and also like villainize every man like every man is a fucking predator and a pedophile yeah it's it's bizarre and it's also like you're not allowing women and moms to be human like you have have you done
Starting point is 00:59:01 some shit okay well like just because i might do something that maybe quote unquote wild like have a white night stand doesn't mean that like that in any way shape or form affects how i show up as a mother if that is going to affect my child in any way like i'm not you know i just i'm not saying move a nigger in in the studio apartment let them let you and you're like everybody's sharing a bed like this is not what we're saying but like you're you're going to and i think it's and i also think it's okay for moms who maybe didn't have their ho-phase before kids to have their ho-face.
Starting point is 00:59:34 You're allowed to have your whole face. You need to have your ho-face. It's okay, babe. You can do it. It's not too late. Like, fuck what they said. You can do, you can have your ho-face after motherhood. If you're late to the party, welcome. Okay? Obviously, your whole phase is going to be a little bit different than the whole phase you would
Starting point is 00:59:50 have had before kids. I'm so sorry that you didn't get to experience the whole phase and it's full whole glory. However, without the shame in the guilt of people saying, I mean, you're going to still be shamed and guilty. You're always going to be shamed and guilty, but they try to shame you more. They try to shame you so much
Starting point is 01:00:02 that you don't even have it. But that's the point. It's like, you're going to get shamed anyway. So do what you need to do. You know, like, you know, speaking of, I wore our shirt the other day, our heel first, ho later shirt. We might need to bring that back.
Starting point is 01:00:14 I think we do because I got a lot of compliments of it. People are like, where did you get that shirt? They're like, oh, I like, out with Irie. My dad saw he's like, you spelled hoe wrong. I was like, that's how you spell hoe. I was, I was out of it. And I was like, thank you. And I was, like, really hoping Irie wasn't going to look at my shirt and be like,
Starting point is 01:00:32 heal first, ho later? I was like, thank you, thank you. Anyway, so honestly, that, that, this is going to be an important topic. When I pull out my, a couple years after I pull out my, my manuals, that's going to be one. You should heal first and ho later. Yeah. I'm going to teach my kid that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:50 You know, like, let's, let's work on this first and then, you know, do what you do intentionally. It's funny. One of my friends, I was talking to one of my friends yesterday. And she had this role She was being celibate She was trying to like Find her husband And she was just like
Starting point is 01:01:04 She waited to have sex with this guy And then come to find out like It just wasn't him Like it was it wasn't this guy So I talked to her recently She's dating again And she's like I'm dating this guy Who I had met on Hinge a while ago
Starting point is 01:01:15 And she was just like Yeah I hate my pussy And like did you suck his dick She was like yeah And it was really nice And she's like You know
Starting point is 01:01:23 I've actually been thinking about If I'm gonna like Stay with this like I think it was like a 90 no maybe it's like a six month rule or something like that and I was like telling her I was like that's a long time to be wasting I was just telling her I was like honor yourself you know you know if you feel safe or intentional and just know that like even if you break the celibacy or whatever you're the rule you put on yourself like you you are hopefully at this point intentional about who you share
Starting point is 01:01:49 yourself with and know that like you feel good about it you need some dick and like this seems like a safe person and that's okay if it's your nigga it's your nigga forever and if not it's no need to beat yourself up. You don't have to like re-go into your virgin years to fucking find your husband. No, we punish yourself. Yeah, no, no, no. I mean, I think I understand that. You know, I'm a newly proponent of celibacy before, like, before whatever, devoting
Starting point is 01:02:13 yourself to a guy. However, I will say that doing that over and over and over again for years and hoping that you, like, you doing that over and over, you'll be five years in, under-fucked. And not with your nigga. So I feel like you got to find the balance in between there. You got to, like, bend the rules when needed. You know, you know when you're supposed to. And obviously, and also, like, whatever he's giving to you, too.
Starting point is 01:02:40 If he's, like, just trying to fuck, then you already know, like, I don't really want to fuck you. Like, so if you're with someone who's respecting your boundaries, honoring what you need and honoring your requests, then I feel like there's more space to be a little bit more flexible there. Yeah. So. Yeah. Don't give yourself such strict rules that you can't even break them under the guise of your own intention. Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long?
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Starting point is 01:04:06 And he got down, and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother tried to solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look to people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes,
Starting point is 01:04:43 then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight. people using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the stuff you should know true crime playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky. went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward
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Starting point is 01:05:52 journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that you all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I've definitely had some, like, good, hearty, necessary, fun, unattached, like, one-night stands. And I left and I'm like, that was nice. That was good. You know, and then like that versus you do it and you're like, oh, God, I feel like, shit. Why the fuck did I do that?
Starting point is 01:07:10 And then, you know, you know good and goddamn we shouldn't have done it. But if it's like, this seems fun, woo, do what you got to do. And, like, indulge in your pleasure in that way sometimes. Everything, every sex partner, though sex is sacred, doesn't necessarily. mean it's going to be your long-term partner and that's okay thank god Jesus even though I'm like I need I cleanse me God cleanse me of all the things I was just I was just my phone is overfilled and I can't fucking take any more videos and so I'm like going through my storage and it's like telling me like what my biggest files are I'm sitting there with Orlando and I'm like going
Starting point is 01:07:46 through the videos and then I'm like oh god there's like a sex video of me and my ex and I was like I'm like washed it for a second and I was like ew and I was like you know some of this shit does not need to live in my phone forever like part of me was like should I save it so I can look back and remember that time wait because there was this time with this ex in particular because he was such a psycho and jealous because he was cheating on me um where he wanted me to delete all of my previous my previous sex videos my like pictures with guys like there's no reason for you to even have these romantic photos in your phone anymore. Why do you have these? And I was like
Starting point is 01:08:25 wow. He's like I deleted all mine. I was like. First of all your fucking line. He was lying. So anyway, I didn't do it. But he thought I did and I literally just dropped them all into a drive. All of my exes. I was like, because if this doesn't work out, I'm going to, what if I want to see that picture?
Starting point is 01:08:41 What the fuck? And I'm so glad. I'm so glad that I did. Because recently I went back and I was like, oh, look at me in Happy Bay. Oh, look at me. Look at that that era. That chapter. Oh, Bay. I'm like yeah fuck all that but I don't have
Starting point is 01:08:55 I did I did delete all my sex videos from my phone every single every single one you have I have no I think there's something like that back folder that back folder that you dropped
Starting point is 01:09:06 that backup folder that I have is it like an actual hard drive like where is that your computer it's in my drop box it's my drop box that's actually smart you could just leave it somewhere else not to be seen
Starting point is 01:09:18 until you intentionally need to look at it Because sometimes I should be popping up on a day. I didn't even ask to see this shit. Yeah, yeah. Email us. What do you guys think? Should you delete all the sex videos, all of your memories from X? I definitely have some sex videos.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I mean, not that I'm, like, going in my folder, like, looking at them in my closet. I just, I didn't even think to erase them. Yeah, I don't have many, though. Do you have a hidden folder? Of course. So in your hidden folder, that's where they live then, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I have all types of things. What's the next one? I think the next one was around career, which we kind of touched on already, but maybe we can, actually we didn't really touch on that. We were talking about dressing for careers. I think that there is a lot of shame
Starting point is 01:10:07 around, A, women prioritizing their careers because it does require balance and you will be imbalanced. But I think that that's inevitable with anything. You know what I mean? Like, no one's shaming dads that are out doing their thing. And I think that as working moms, as women that have dreams and aspirations, our kids need to see us, do our thing.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I know my mom literally was on set from 6 a.m. to 11 p.m. for a lot of my life. So I would get nights with her, and I would get not even nights. I'd get cuddles with her early, early mornings, and then I'd get the weekends. And for me, like, that's not why I'm in therapy. It wasn't because mommy wasn't around because she was working. You know, like I, if anything, I saw her do that and it, I think, has inspired me to be able to manage and do all the things to be able to dream the way I dream. And I hope that Irie sees that and realizes that is, and that that's a possibility. But I also think that I think the difference is that I didn't ever see my mom rest.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I didn't ever see her prioritize herself and I think that that's where I come in in this iteration of motherhood is like yes you can do all those things but you have to also equally take care of yourself like it does no one any good to just be fucking running yourself down into
Starting point is 01:11:34 the ground so I think it's like finding the balance but I think there's a lot of shame for women choosing their careers and I don't even want to say over motherhood but like just still prioritizing both yeah you know I think even and I think that there's a like such a disconnect because what we what we see a success
Starting point is 01:11:56 and then what we see what we also say is the standard of which a mom should be present or whatever in the life of their child like even for us I think we were like oh I want to travel a lot you know I really want to be able to travel while I work bringing the kids which obviously kids have to go to school and shit so it's not as easy as it sounds but like there's such thing as like refining the the manifestation and like you could have a season if you're going really hard and then you're like let me rest and like I mean rest always but and then you're like maybe you are going to rearrange what's priority priority to you as you evolve it's just how it works as you get older like I'm working really hard for what like yeah things are
Starting point is 01:12:33 nice but like what do I really need so I could have a balance of both and I I you're allowed to and I think they're almost come from the same place like even a lot of our success came after we had kids like our womb is what creates. Our womb is like, it literally creates people and it births ideas and it births things. And it's like you have to feed your creativity and work in your purpose as well as, you know, alongside motherhood, which is also a purpose. But most of us have additional purposes outside of motherhood. You know what? And as you said that, I'm like, don't you think that's not ironic?
Starting point is 01:13:09 It actually makes total sense that usually after women give birth, that's when they like really start to prioritize their dreams, their career. maybe not even their dreams. I mean, that's not, maybe that's not true, but like they get into creation mode. It activates you. Yeah. It's a right of passage.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And it's not necessarily just because you maybe have to be the provider, because yes, there is that, potentially. But it allows you, I think when you see a child in play and you see your child's, like,
Starting point is 01:13:37 experience of the world in all its newness, it can't help but inspire you to kind of, rethink what it is that you want to do and that brings me to another part of this number four that we're on is like the shame around your career choice to like what kind of career is suitable for a mother right it's suitable for someone raising a child like we talk about sex on the airwaves on the airwaves we talk about sex on the airwaves in our dating life and like you know for a lot of people I'm sure they've looked down upon us and like those are mothers and they're talking about this.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Yeah, bitch. I'm getting paid to talk. Pay, bitch. Pay, beach. And it's not even just about the money. I'm fulfilled. Yeah. I feel good.
Starting point is 01:14:27 I'm happy. I'm being honest. Yeah. It's not like I'm on here lying and shit. Like, yeah, the truth will sell. Shut you free. Shall shut you street. Even if it's not likable to everybody else or to everybody else's idea of what you should
Starting point is 01:14:41 or how you're supposed to show up. Yeah. Happiness. So as long as your career is making you, you feel fulfilled making you feel happy making you feel grounded not making you feel outside of yourself outside of your body girl do your thing yeah and also if you don't have it all together like you know i would recommend having some shit together before you give birth because she gets very real when you don't trust me i know but also like there's space to grow like don't feel like i i know
Starting point is 01:15:09 when i was you know struggling financially and just trying to figure shit out in my 20s even in my 30s there was such deep guilt I felt around you know it's one thing to be like figuring it out as a single adult and you could just like figure it out go on a date here you know sleep over here but like when you have a kid there's a stability that needs to happen and there's so much shame sometimes around figuring it out I mean like you know at least you're attempting to figure it out don't feel ashamed in the in-betweens because we're all breaking down and rebuilding all the time you know we're all growing we're all blossoming and it's just like just because you give a birth to a child or because you're this age or that age doesn't mean you're going to have all your shit together everyone is not dealt the same cars everybody's in different circumstances we're in America I mean some of you are not but the economy is crazy life is crazy I don't think we're supposed to really truly have to to pay and work to live like we're supposed to work to live but not in this this not in this capitalistic world that we live in so it's really not human but I think there's also shame around that whereas especially with single motherhood
Starting point is 01:16:13 because it's like when it is all on you is the pressure of that, the emotional dependency of your child, the need to show up still feeling good and at least for your child, even though you might be feeling shame or sadness inside. And a lot of times men can keep going.
Starting point is 01:16:27 They're out of town, they're living their best lives, and very rarely their friends saying, did you send money home to your kids? When was the last time? Do they ever say when was the last time you saw Johnny? Have you, do you contribute? You know, I, even with my dynamic with my baby daddy,
Starting point is 01:16:41 I'm like, damn, your mom be over here talking to me, calling me, texting me. I wonder if she ever asked this nigga one time. Girl, you know. I wonder if she asked this nigga one time. I'm going to answer it for you, babe. Did you ever, have you ever sent Mila any money for Luna for school? Have you taken any of these things? But no, the answer is fuck no, because that's never even, I don't even, but as a mom, even if I had a son, those are things that I would ask.
Starting point is 01:17:07 but the idea that men don't have the same like sense of responsibility and society doesn't hold them to the same standard because a lot of times if you're an shit father and the child's with their kid, chances are you're not sending money home so the responsibility of being there emotionally and fucking physically and financially is fucking heavy
Starting point is 01:17:28 and it's not something that I think men have to deal with on a day-to-day basis. And if you have a career that you might do OnlyFans or be a call girl or, I don't know what the hell weird shit is going on toe model whatever it is don't let people make you feel bad about what you got to do to do you know you have to do what you got to do I've done some shit illegal another and would I recommend my my kid do it no but sometimes you have to do what you have to do and that's just what it is today I had an audition that Orlando did a self-tape with me and I was a cam girl oh and I was like she was like a cam girl to this old man and he just was lonely. He just wanted to have conversation and he wanted just her to dress up kind of like Charlie's Angels. And I was like
Starting point is 01:18:12 I can do this. This ain't so bad. She was even showing no ass or nothing. Baby, in my days of... She was pretty low-key with her camming. You hope that you get a client like that. I have nine times out of nine, you're going to get some weird clients. But I considered that. I looked at a couple
Starting point is 01:18:29 sites and I was like, can I live with myself if I'm only cam girl? And then I was like, what if someone records it? I couldn't live with the... Not that I couldn't do it. It's that I couldn't live with someone else having video of it. And then possibly going somewhere. I don't want it to go.
Starting point is 01:18:43 I could have done it. I've thought about it. I often think about those with my sex videos that I've made with people. I'm like, God, I've been very lucky to not have any vengeful ex-boyfriends yet. Let's say a prayer. Dear 9-pound, 6-ounce baby Jesus, for us and those listening, if any, ain't shit men around this motherfucker. or women, for that instance, happen to have any full frontal or back shots
Starting point is 01:19:12 or head-given shots of us in their phone. I pray, baby Jesus, that you delete them. Right now. From every device. Every single device. Every backup. Every backup. Every backup.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Every backup. Every drop-box, Lord. Somehow, in the technologies of Mercury retrograde, remove all sex videos that no longer should be in anybody else's phone from the phones, Lord. And the technology gods, we pray. Amen. for real
Starting point is 01:19:39 I got some good ones yeah I got some shit that I'm like oh god I got something that I'm like I wish I had it just to watch sometimes and put it back in my drop box which is not even because it was them because me because I looked good
Starting point is 01:19:54 but also damn you look good look that ass if you're watching this and you're like what the fuck are these stupid bitches talking about why would they do that don't ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever let him keep the fucking video Don't. Ever.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Ever. Don't let him use the phone. Ever. And don't send it to him. Let him watch it on your phone. Has anybody ever, has anyone ever told you to delete a video and you kept it? No. Like a guy? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:18 No. Really? This is not you, that evil ass laugh. I'm going to go ahead and say that it has happened to you. I plead the fifth. Okay. I'm just kidding. I delete everything.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Anyone ever asked. What was he doing? Oh, actually, I kind of, I already know what it was. I already know. You don't know shit. I know. You don't know shit. I already know what it was.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I don't know shit about what I'm talking about. Does it involve high socks and... No, heels? No, no, okay. Those are from the early, those are from the early days. Don't try and blast me. Okay. If you guys are just joining us here on this good mom's journey, I highly, highly, highly
Starting point is 01:20:54 recommend going back to seasons one and two, which is just year one and year two, because there were no seasons. There was like 300 episodes in season one. Such as, yeah, the first 84 episodes, 88 episodes. If you're listening to us now and you're like, Woo, they seem so, they seem so. Go listen to our first 88. Those first 88.
Starting point is 01:21:11 If you think we seem mature and well-involved and classy. Ooh, just them first 88. Just hit those first 88 and come back. And this is what growth is called, God damn. Oh, my God. And then last but not least, number five. Is it number five? On our list of misconceptions of a wild mom are.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Prioritizing your relationship and not just that one with your hood. husband, you know, the one you got a divorce for and now you got a new nigga, prioritizing that one. So I was telling me I was thinking, like, you always hear all this talk about prioritizing your marriage and prioritizing your baby daddy or whatever.
Starting point is 01:21:51 But I don't feel like that same energy is for like the new men in your life. Like the new stepdaddy in your life. Like, there's no prioritizing that. Like, that's just the new nigga in your life that's stuck around. And you're not supposed to like go on one month vacation
Starting point is 01:22:06 with your with your partner to solidify the foundation um and i feel like that idea is generally catered towards the child of your father but if that doesn't work out then what the next thing goes ain't shit you're not supposed to prioritize that anymore because he didn't birth your children i don't believe in that i don't believe in that because the hope and the goal is that that person that you're bringing into your life is going to pour into your child and maybe become stepdaddy or maybe full-time daddy if daddy ain't around. So I think that it's important for
Starting point is 01:22:41 us as single mom specifically. I'm not talking. I also think, yes, if you're married, prioritize your husband, all that great stuff. You already have the book and all the stuff on the internet about that. But if you are a single mom and you're in a serious relationship with someone, or maybe you're trying to build something with someone, I think it's important and it's okay
Starting point is 01:22:57 to prioritize that relationship. I agree. I mean, I'm the bitch you want to have one the vacation. But I also, I was like, I had to say, like, I'm finishing my book. You know, you have to, like, slide other things in there because you can't be like, I'm going to go solidify my relationship with my new boyfriend. Hold my baby right quick. Nobody really cares. You got to lie. I could be like, it has to be work, it has to be money. Oh, man. Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.
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Starting point is 01:23:45 Lenovo, Lenovo. Unlock AI experiences with the ThinkPad X1 Carbon, powered by Intel Core Ultra processors so you can work, create, and boost productivity all on one device. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, And on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again?
Starting point is 01:24:13 And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. And he got down, and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother try to solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Being more able to look people in the eyes. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time.
Starting point is 01:25:08 There's a shootout in broad daylight. People using axes in really terrible ways. Disappearances. Legendary heists. The whole nine yards. So check out the Stuff You Should Know True Crime playlist. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie.
Starting point is 01:25:32 For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her. We know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen. investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica
Starting point is 01:26:05 Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her. Or rape or burn or any of that other stuff
Starting point is 01:26:20 that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I port. guess on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season at free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. You generally have to lie. You can't be like, I'm going to go stabilize my relationship. I'm going to go, like, build the foundation. You've got to be like, I'm working.
Starting point is 01:27:18 It has to be money related or else no one respects you. No one really cares if a single mom has to go, like, date or find their mate. They're almost like, should have made the first one work, bitch. And so, fuck you. And it is important. And, you know, good moms. Good moms do deserve love. And you still are worthy and they still show up for you.
Starting point is 01:27:38 And you still deserve to prioritize those relationships as if it was the person you had the baby with. Because hopefully you're creating a foundation of family. And it's also important. So don't let your peers or your mama because you know your mama be hating because, you know, she'd be like, you got to go for that long. I was, I never did no shit like that. Did you just go on a date last? Like, I never left you from that. Like, girl, they forget what they'd be doing until it's your turn to do it.
Starting point is 01:28:02 So I just feel like, you need to prioritize it to make sure that niggas for you. And you have to read, these are things that you're going to have to pump yourself up on. No one except us is going to remind you. So in the moments when you're feeling that guilt come up about any of these above lists, that outfit, that job, that trip, if you need to go to Coachella, whatever the fuck of the shit is that you just need. to get off right quick you know sometimes even your closest friends will hate on you because they want to have fun too but they're not going to keep it real with you and hopefully they do because you have good friends but if not just turn on this episode again and we'll remind you do whatever the fuck you want to do because you matter and being a liberated mom doesn't mean
Starting point is 01:28:42 you're a bad mom it means you're a good mom and you still want to look good and you so want to do fun shit and that's okay you need to be happy amen right yeah no i agree i think being being a liberated mom is a heart it's hard it's not for the faint of heart baby this is not for it's i don't want to say it's not for everyone because i think it should be but it's hard out here because you're going to battle yourself and you're going to battle people a lot it's just the nature of being a fucking woman that chooses herself and honestly a lot of this shit is not even just for moms it's just for women in general because they put age limits on how you dress and what you do and what you should be doing and if you should be married and if you should already have kids and
Starting point is 01:29:25 I'm like, it's just about checking in with yourself. Because no one was commenting on my baby daddy when he was making out with his girlfriend in front of the Dubai-Burzal Arab and was gone for two months. No one said, when was the last time he saw his kid? Sorry, I just had to say that. Not in front of it. Not in Dubai. Do you want me to go comment on that?
Starting point is 01:29:47 Where is it? No, I don't get bought. They broke up. They broke up already. They broke up already. See, but he had to go do that. He had to go make sure. Super important.
Starting point is 01:29:56 You know, I've been on the internet. I've been on Twitter. He's done it quite a few times, so he could chill now. He's a lover boy. I don't know if we would call it that. Something. He's a lover boy. We're both lovers.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Not after the aftermath. It doesn't seem like he turns on. He's hot and cold. He's that Gemini. He loves you and then he don't. That's the Gemini. I wonder if my baby daddy was like, listen, Jam. My baby daddy calls me Jam.
Starting point is 01:30:22 That's my earlier day nickname. Yeah, you know, me and so-and-so got to go I mean, one time he did, he went to Thailand for a month And I thought he was going to get his life together, but I remember that? We had hopes. He had hopes, but then he was like going to come back, then he didn't come back and kept extending it.
Starting point is 01:30:38 I remember. I just went on forever, and there was nothing happening. Nothing happening. I thought he was going to come back to a little Buddha, nope. But, yeah, honestly, if he said that, I would say, what the fuck ever. Have fun. Maybe if you go with a bitch, you'll come back changed.
Starting point is 01:30:55 a little bit well all we can do is pray and wish i think the cards need to speak their messages to us now okay would you like to choose one i think it's tarot time tarot time bitches do you have an affirmation while i pick a card um what i was going to say is silly i I am wild and free because that's the only way to be. Okay. The other one was I'm a liberated mom because I don't want to be incarcerated one. Wild moms can be good moms. Wild moms are good moms too.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Wild moms are good moms. You know what that sounds like, right? What? Black people are talented too. Oh, shut the fuck up. Shut up. Shut your assat. Remember that mantra?
Starting point is 01:31:52 I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know Okay God, my affirmation Wild mom What's that song like wild and free Let your tities hang mom Let's your titty swang
Starting point is 01:32:14 Let's your titty swang I like that one that one sticks Today's affirmation is Let's your titty swing And this is good mom's reminding you to let those titty swing. Especially if you're a mom. I'm swinging my titties right now.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Me too. I feel ten times better, actually. You hear that? That's ASMR for titty swinging. Oh, man. What card you pulled? Come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.
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Starting point is 01:33:23 I'm Jonathan Gould. and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke. And he got down, and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother, Try to solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to heavyweight on the I-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast.
Starting point is 01:34:25 guest episodes, then have we got good news for you. Stuff you should know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the stuff you should know true crime playlist on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-true. is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved,
Starting point is 01:35:06 until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said it. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.
Starting point is 01:35:50 They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season at free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus
Starting point is 01:36:26 on Apple Podcasts. Opportunity is on the way. I could use a check right about now. Yeah, me too. And I remember that, sorry, remember that one time we saw the money depositing. We're opening our apps. I think we need to do it again. Let's manifest opening up our bank, mobile bank apps.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Oh, look, it's that one that I used. I signing in. Oh, my God. Oh, my goodness. 20 mil? Two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, too, too, too, too, too, to, wow. I'm such a, Oh, wait, shit, there's more in my savings.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Oh, my God. We're good. We're good. I'm going to rest now. I think actually I want to, I don't know. I think I just want to lay here and drink a martini and take this all in because I didn't even know I was getting this electric transfer of $400,000 today. God, God is good all the time. All the time.
Starting point is 01:37:42 God is crazy. God is crazy. All the time. God is crazy, y'all. All the time. That's our song. In case you didn't know, it's unreleased. It's unreleased, but it's coming.
Starting point is 01:37:55 We're waiting for the church choir to come in to do the backups, and we're still getting, we're still getting, what's our boy's name? Again? What is the most famous gospel singer-rapper? Kirk Franklin? We're still getting Kirk Franklin on the rock. That was, that deep voice, that was him, that was his adlipped. God is crazy, y'all.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Stomp. Yeah, exactly. You see, you hear it? Yeah. Okay. Ace of Pentacles, a new financial or career opportunity, manifestation, abundance.
Starting point is 01:38:28 The Ace of Pentacles, like the other Aces of the Terrell, represents new beginnings, opportunities, and potential. And as a Pentecost, these new beginnings correlate to the material world, finances, wealth, career, physical health, and manifestation of your goals. You may receive a new job offer, an unexpected sum of money. A new business or investment opportunity may come your way, or you'll have the chance to bring an idea to fruition. No matter the occasion, the Ace of Pentecosts heralds a sense of prosperity and abundance in the material or financial areas of your life.
Starting point is 01:38:57 The Ace of Pentacles also symbolizes wealth, not just for your bank account, but in a holistic sense as well. You may discover opportunities to generate a new source of income or receive a financial gift or windfall. I love windfall. Or you may have a chance to create wealth in a broader sense. Happiness, fulfillment. No, I'm going to go with money. Money buys happiness. Happiness, fulfill, my potential, and love.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Yes, rich, lovely, juicy, rich, rich, rich love. This ace signifies abundance in all areas of your life. Enjoy it. Tasteful good. Richness. So rich and abundant. Yes, yes. I like this card.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Juicy. I like this card a lot. That was beautiful. Well, thanks guys. Thanks for listening. Yeah, I hope that, you know, if you come back to this episode, whenever you're feeling a little out of flow with yourself, when people are hating on you and shit,
Starting point is 01:39:52 when you want to take that trip, when you want to book that trip to the Good Vibe Retreat, or you want to go hang out with your new boyfriend for one week in Tulum, or you want to switch careers because your job fucking sucks, or you want to go through your closet and throw out all the gap and the black and white and the other stuff that we said, the kitten heels. Come back here.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Especially the kitten heels. Unless you have long legs and a mini skirt. And you're rich. You don't have to be rich You'll look rich if you do that But if you have long legs and mini skirt The kitten heels might work I saw a thick girl with a miniskirt and kitten heels
Starting point is 01:40:31 And she looked cute actually the other day So maybe I need to try this out Should I not have sold my fucking kitten heels? I'm sure there's more kitten heels to be gotten I actually bought a clear pair of caten heels Two years ago and I've never I did I did I was really trying You know what? It's funny you said that because
Starting point is 01:40:46 I was in New York I got confused One day I was out and about And I didn't want to go home because I was already in And so I went to Target and bought a whole new outfit. I think I met up with you that day. I went to Target and I bought, this is before the Target boycott, by the way, guys, everyone relax. And I bought a full gene outfit. And it was cute.
Starting point is 01:41:01 And it was really cute and I couldn't believe it. But then I went to DSW because I was by the Beverly Center. DSW. Because it had Target and DSW like right there. So I hit him both at once. And I've been sleeping up. Wait, is it DSW or is it? What's the other one?
Starting point is 01:41:14 No, Nordstrom Rock. Oh, that's a better one. That was a better one. And I got these shoes that were pink. And when I bought them, I was like, is this heel high enough? And I wore it that night, and it was fine. But yesterday, I went to go put on these bright pink heels. And every time I fucking put them on, I look in the mirror and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:41:34 these are kitten heels. I bought fucking kitten heels. If you're unsure, it's probably a kitten heel. They're like three and a half inches. They're like just above what I thought kitten heel was, but no. Get rid of them. Okay. Anyway
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Starting point is 01:42:17 Download the motherfucking episode. Leave a subscribe, leave a review, tell a friend, send this episode to a friend that needs to be reminded to be a wild bitch sometimes because you deserve to be a wild bitch sometimes. You are a feral, wild human of the world and you need to go let your fangs out and let your tits swang and just, you know,
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Starting point is 01:45:03 then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways, Disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the stuff you should know true crime playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season, ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. People called them murderers. Ten years later, they were gods. Today, no one knows their names. A group of maverick surgeons who took on the medical establishment who risked everything to invent open heart surgery. Welcome to the Wild West of American Medicine.
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