The Breakfast Club - Have You Ever Experienced Body Shaming In Your Workplace?

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

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Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show, Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle.

We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was assassinated. Crooks everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974.

George Foreman was champion of the world. Ali was smart and he was handsome. The story behind the Rumble in the Jungle is like a Hollywood movie. But that is only half the story. There's also James Brown, Bill Withers, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba. All the biggest black artists on the planet. Together in Africa. It was a big deal.

Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 All the biggest black artists on the planet. Together in Africa. It was a big deal. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you?

Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is, not everything is a mess.

Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like J-Lo on her third divorce. Living. Girl's trip to Miami. Mess. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living. It's kind of a mess.

Yeah. Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we're talking about an incident that we've seen happen at Costco. I guess a lady was body shamed because of the way that she looked in the tire and her co-workers might not have looked the same way.

Now, we're asking 800-585-1051. We're just talking about our culture and the fact that, you know, usually our women are more thicker. Black women is what you're saying. So, is this a regular thing women go through? That your body shape makes your attire look inappropriate? We got AJ and Tam Bam from the We Talk Back podcast in here. Answer the question, ladies. Good morning, ladies.

Absolutely, man. We've been going through that our whole lives, for real, in a real way. I think women of other ethnicities get away with a lot more. I think black women and girls are over-sexualized from a very young age. So it is a real

thing. And a lot of the disrespect comes from other women now. So I dealt with that in a corporate setting. You know know my clothes might look a little better on me may not be inappropriate but and this is coming from other women though black women in particular bigger black women this morning I saw the sanitation workers losing a mine but that's just jealousy though right the other way the women they see you come in the corporate

workplace you might have on the same dress that they have on the same outfit in the morning in New York. But that's just jealousy though, right? The other women, the women, they see you come into a corporate workplace, you might have on the same dress that they have on, same outfit that they have on, but because of your body shape, they probably just feel jealous. Or intimidated. Yeah.

You know, another producer of ours said she used to deal with that in school. So I guess it was a uniform that she had to wear and she said that, you know,

when she was younger, she was a lot thinner up top and bigger on the bottom and when she wore the uniform that the other girls didn't have a problem but one teacher pulled her to the side i was like you can't wear that and she was like this is the uniform i can't wear anything else where they actually took her to the principal she said thank god the principal was black and was like no this is her body she can do it and she was like the white teacher made a big fuss about it like there's boys in there there's boys in there but she was like this is my body type white teacher ain't got no ass that's just jealousy the white teacher made a big fuss about it like there's boys in there there's boys in there but she was like this is my body type white teacher ain't got no ass that's just jealousy

the white teacher ain't got no hips that's just jealousy and her husband probably over there um on uh whatever the porn sites sites and bbws you know women are made very conscious of their body from very young i remember uh my mom would tell me a story when i was little and they were like she's too big to be in a pamper still. Well, you need to take her out of pampering. She's like, that ain't no pamper. She ain't got no pamper. That ain't got nothing to do with body size, man. What are you talking about?

I'm just saying we're being conscious of our bodies from little girls. You ain't got no diaper at six, Tammy. You're being conscious of your body size. How old were you? Nine. No, maybe nine, maybe six. You used to wear a pamper when you were nine. I was not in a pamper. I was not in a pimp.

I was not in a pimp. I just looked like I had one on. That was a pimp. He's not a pimp. Oh, okay. I get what you're saying now. I looked like I was wearing. I get what you're saying.

I thought you were saying you were in a pimp or not, but you're saying that. No. It looked like you had a pimp on. It looked like I had a pimp on. They was like, oh, she's. Fudge Bob Square Pimp. No, no. We had a homeboy like, y'all know Dre?

What? Dre, we used to call Dre Dirty Diaper. He was hippie? He had a dirty diaper. Oh, baby kids. I remember that. I didn't used to call him that. One of the partners used to call him that.

No, I never used to call him that. I do feel like when someone says that to a woman, they're just acknowledging how they see them. So they're sexualizing. Exactly. And objectifying them. Very young. Ashley, good morning.

Good morning. How are you feeling? You went through something similar? I did it myself, but my daughter did. Talk to us. What happened? So it was her eighth grade graduation in middle school. And she had on a fitted dress.

You know, one of those stretchy but fitted dresses. Yep. And she's thicker. And there was girls in there, mind you, with their cleavage hanging out, their ass and their body open and see-through. But they made her call me to bring her a sweater to put around her waist because her butt was too big.

That's crazy. And she was so embarrassed that all these kids seeing her get escorted to the front door. And they literally made her stand there with escorts until I got there to put a sweater around her wrist or her waist so that her fur didn't show. That's got to be some form of discrimination. It is. That girl discrimination. It's clapper discrimination.

Clapper? Why clapper? Because you're clapping around the schoolyard. Clappery. Hello, Misha., good morning Good morning Now Nisha, you dealt with this too? Yes, actually since I was in like middle school I guess we had to go

So it would be like Make your fingertips seep back Make your fingertips go longer than your shorts If your shorts too short. What is that? Six inches above your fingertips. The white girls did, because they didn't have hips for, you know, everything that black

girls had. It would be mostly the black girls that got them. You kind of get used to it in time, but it's not right. She said you kind of get used to it, but what? It's not right. She said it's not right. I mean, as black people, you get used to all types of forms of discrimination. You know what I mean? Hello, who's this?

Good morning, this is Dan. Good morning, guys. Good morning. Now, talk to us. You're a manager, right? Yes, I am. All right, now don't tell us what job. We don't want you to lose your job,

but tell us what's going on. Yeah, so that body shaming is not supposed to be done, especially not by a manager. I mean, we have enough employees and other things they have to work about coming to work. And it's insane how they insist on stuff. If that's their body, that's their body. I don't know if that manager took the HR training classes, but she definitely has a lot of support.

Absolutely. I do wonder if the Costco employee said it was the manager that was body shaming. It probably was another woman manager Probably Well 800-585-1051 We're talking about being body shamed in the workplace Does this happen to you? I get body shamed here all the time

Just because I'm the thickest person up here I get body shamed from Envy I get body shamed from Taylor because she's a hater You know what I'm saying It's actually starting to get to me. Why are you dressed like that? Whoa. Skinny jeans on at the workplace.

I don't have skinny jeans on. There's a uniform. Clapping all over the building. Damn. Don't tell him that. Don't tell him that. Don't tell him that. The problem is he think he thick, right?

But he's not thick, right? He makes up his own nickname. Taylor can't help it. Because they're snacky. Taylor couldn't wait to come in here. She can't even bully you. Taylor couldn't wait to come in here. Her can't even hit a bully. Taylor couldn't wait to come in here.

Now Taylor, talk to the mic please. Just talk to the mic. Are you jealous of Charlamagne's thickness? Absolutely not. Let's be very clear that he started

mentioning that because he's jealous of me. So why do you always You started saying you thick because of me. Why do you want to do side by side comparisons all the time?

And I don't. She be trying to test me. She be like, let's drop down and get our eagle on right now what are you talking about right you know i'm saying for what what's wrong with you that's her it's topic time 800-585-1051. Is this happening to you? Let's talk about it. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club.

Let's talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about women being body shamed. 800-585-1051 now of course we got some special guest hosts from the we talk bad podcast aj and tam bam and we were talking about the situations working at a place where other women might not have the same body as you and you know they don't look as good as you but because you got body and shapes and curves that you you know, manages. And sometimes the boss thinks that you are. Call it what it is, man.

These women be hating. Okay. They be seeing these black women come through and, you know, they be of a certain shape and stature. And they just be hating. That's really what it boils down to. That's it. Let's go to the phone lines. Got a lot of people on the line.

Hello. Who's this? Good morning. This is Christina. Hey, Christina. Now, this happened at your job the past 15 years? Yeah, actually twice. I forgot.

But when I went to join the Army, you know, they have very strict standards. And I had to lose five pounds to be sworn in. Wow. And I'm very hippie. And I've been naturally like that. And then after I had kids, it enhanced it. So the past 15 years at my job, within the first five years, they changed the dress code where we could wear leggings

and things like that that shows off our shape. Anything I wear, it's going to be tight, and it's going to show off. So what did you wear? Around my hip, it's about 52 inches. Okay. Around my butt. Yes, honey. How tall are you?

Oh, you dragging a wagon. 5'3". Oh, 5'3"? Yeah, I'm definitely dragging a wagon. Stop. What? You ever thought about working for Lizzo? See, here, shut up.

Listen. Goodbye. Have a good one, mama. I'm sorry. You like bananas, my son? I'm sorry. Goodbye. Well? I'm sorry. You like bananas, my sweet? I'm sorry. Goodbye. Well done, victim.

What's up? I was just asking. Y'all harassing a victim. Yo, what is happening? Hello, who's this? Hello, good morning, Westwood Club. This is Lauren. Hey, Lauren, good morning.

Good morning. Has that happened to you? You know, the fact that you probably got more curves and shape and it's been a problem for you at your work spot? Yes. I mean, it's hard as a black woman to have a natural body part. And it just being over-sexualized, like, in people's minds when it's not. If y'all remember the Home Depot girl that was going around the internet. Oh, yeah.

She wasn't even, yeah, she wasn't even wearing anything anywhere inappropriate. But people were harassing her. So it's hard for black women because we always being over-sexualized for no reason. We wear our natural hair. It used to be called nappy. Yeah. So it's hard being a black woman in work spaces.

Y'all remember the news reporter? I think her name was like Demetria. Oh yeah, yeah. Beautiful. But it was all the white women calling and complaining or putting messages online about her body shape and she looked very good in her clothes. Yeah, what's Demetria's last name?

It's like Abelor. O-B-I-L-O-R or something like like that i know demetri hello who's this hi this is kelly hey kelly good morning how old are you kelly i'm 32 okay now you said this happened to you before mama oh heck yeah what happened um so being putterian in like a wide dominant area I was a good I was in gymnastics and different types of sports and I would literally like have to tape my side so that they wouldn't bust out you know it would be too big for my tights or whatever oh my butt was too big and then like it was really hard in gymnastics that would always get me in front of because all these girls were so skinny. And I'm sitting here in a wheel car, and obviously I have a bigger figure, and everyone's just there.

It just wasn't the thing back then. How do you tape your feet? You had to tape your thigh. I would take duct tape. Oh, compression? Yeah, I would take duct tape. Wow. And then probably make my pants smaller on me.

That's hard. What did your parents say? Did your parents know you had to do that? So my mom found out when I was around 16. And she told me, like, she's like, you know, self-worth and, you know, everything is within or outward. But, you know, as I got older, like, having a body became a thing. Right. Well, thank you.

I'm so sorry you had to deal with that, Mama. No, thank you so much. And good morning, guys. This was awesome. Thank you. Good morning. What I'm hearing, man, it boils down to just the sexualizing and objectifying of black women and, you know, women that are thicker and just jealousy and envy of black women and women that are thicker.

That's right. Because if I'm following the dress code, mind your business. Right. Right. So we don't know if the Costco worker was white or black, though. This is our experiences as black women. I out of thickness. That's right. Because if I'm following the dress code, mind your business. Right. Right. So we don't know if the Costco worker was white or black, though. This is our experience. I think she was black.

I think she was black. There's a picture. Oh, okay. Yeah, she was black. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I've never seen anybody tape their thighs to make it look smaller,

but I know I've seen girls tape under their butt cheek. Can I say that? Yeah. Under their butt cheek to give them a little tip. Did you wear skims? Mm-mm.

Hold on But what does that do now? Like if you tape Under your butt Right up under your butt cheek It'll be fat up at work tomorrow Yeah it'll give you That little pee in the back

Don't you want it To be small at all? Is she trying to compress it? Now Now the big butt is cool Yeah everybody This person at Costco Is probably just having

A problem with that manager In particular Yeah she got a personal issue That's the young lady right there Oh yeah Yeah, everybody wanted to be good. This person at Costco is probably just having a problem with that manager in particular. Yeah, she got a personal issue. That's the young lady right there. Oh, yeah. She thick, she fine. She got on the leggings. You know what I'm saying?

Now, okay, so it just depends. So, you know, in Charleston, they have the port. So a lot of times they complain about women wearing, because women are now working out there. They complain about them wearing leggings to work. I feel like you should wear cargo pants. You should wear like a thicker material if you in an environment like that. Yeah, but leggings

amongst mostly men out there, we have to consider those things as women. No, men have to consider those things. Why do women have to change their attire? Like the men need

to change their mindset. Like focus on your job. Men are very physical. It's important. I agree with you, but what if it's hard for them to focus? Well, then they need to change their focus. That not that's not the ladies fault put on your legs it's 110 degrees out there yeah and by the way ain't no man complaining watch them

laying in students but they ain't watching them ladies that's why we call them wolf pants boy that's right you wear them all day long and when you take them off all right well keep it locked when we come back we got your rumor report we got to talk about lizzo about 18 minutes ago 20 minutes ago lizzo actually left a statement we'll get that statement we'll read that statement to you guys so don't move mr breakfast club good morning hey what's up this is ramses job and i go by the name q war and we'd like you to join us each week for our show civic cipher that's right we discuss social issues especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence.

And we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unnerves the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974. George Foreman was champion of the world. Ali was smart and he was handsome. The story behind The Rumble in the Jungle is like a Hollywood movie. But that is only half the story. There's also James Brown, Bill Withers, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba.

All the biggest black artists on the planet. Together in Africa. It was a big deal. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and The Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, my undeadly

darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you?

Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy.

But the gag is, not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like J-Lo on her third divorce. Living. Girls' trip to Miami. Mess. Breaking up with your girlfriend while her third divorce. Living. Girl's trip to Miami. Mess. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living.

It's kind of mess. Yeah. Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.