The Breakfast Club - Hitmaka Interview, Malcom Gladwell and More

Episode Date: September 13, 2019

Today on the show we had HitMaka come and discuss his new single, his position as Vice President of A & R  at Atlantic records, and in between that he spilled some tea on some celebrities.  We also had author, Malcom Gladwell, come and discuss his new book, "Talking to Strangers" and he also revealed why America doesn't know how to talk to strangers. Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to an NYPD Sergent after they went on a shop lifting spree in the Bronx Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.

What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast

Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show, Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people.

We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or show you love to hate. From the East to the West Coast. DJ Envy. Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God. The realest show on the planet. This is why I respect this show, because this is a voice to society.

Changing the game. You guys are the coveted morning show, but y'all earning it. Impacting the culture. They wake up in the morning and they want to hear that Breakfast Club. The world's most dangerous morning show. We in the mother, we in the house. Wake up, God damn it. What's happening?

Charlemagne the God here from the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. DJ Envy and Angela Yee are running late this morning. Oh, it feels good to say that. Dropping the clues box for me for being prompted on time. Okay? Well, I'm not really on time because my contract says 6.05, so I'm actually just early. I just happened to be in the building. So I decided to bless y'all with

my presence five minutes early. Okay, happy Friday the 13th. Do we still care about Friday the 13th? Is that still a thing? Like, do people still look at that and feel like it's superstitious? It's not, right? Because every day of your life, you wake up and you try to avoid crazy, and crazy can happen on any day.

Friday the 13th is just a marketed day because of Jason Voorhees that makes us think that something bad can happen. But, nah, I don't subscribe to that. Now, this morning on the show, we have one of my favorite authors, somebody that I thoroughly enjoy. If you've ever read his books like David and Goliath or Blank or The Tipping Point or The Outliers. He has a new book out now called Talking to Strangers, which I had the pleasure of reading a few weeks ago. Malcolm Gladwell will be here this morning.

Okay. To talk to us about how none of us know how to communicate with each other. That's what his new book is about. And also, who else we got on the show this morning? Hitmaker. The artist formerly known as Youngberg. Or should we say the executive formerly known as the artist Youngberg. He'll be here this morning.

All right, we got front page news coming up next. I guess we're going to be talking about the Democratic debate. And I guess I'll be here talking about it by myself. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. What the hell? You beat me here. Hey, man. I didn't actually beat you here. My time to be here is 6.05.

I just happened to be early because my barber's here because my receding hairline is showing. Okay. And you know it's Friday the 13th, so that's bad luck to have your receding hairline showing on Friday the 13th. Okay. I just made that up on the fly. And let me apologize to everybody on the road this morning.

I'm sorry. Why? What'd you do? Who'd you kill? I was late. Who'd you kill, Brandy? I ain't killed nobody. But I was late. So I had to get here. But let's get in some front page news.

Uh, sir? What? You gotta do front page news. Oh, hold on. I was too busy putting Vazine in my eye. All right, listen. The Democratic debate was on last night. Mm-hmm.

It's hard not to watch those debates and think to yourself, Trump 2020. It's hard not to watch those debates and think to yourself, Trump 2020. It's hard not to think MAGA because it sucks, man, because those Democratic candidates seem qualified, like they are all better humans than Trump. But sadly, they're just not entertaining enough to get the casual voter excited. You weren't excited. You were bored. I mean, it was cool.

I mean, it had a lot of substance to it, but it wasn't enough flair. Wasn't enough. Okay? Okay. But then you got Andrew Yang. He expounded on his universal basic income last night, but he wants, I guess, to test it out. My campaign will now give a freedom dividend of $1,000 a month for an entire year to 10 American families. Someone watching this at home right now.

If you believe that you can solve your own problems better than any politician, go to yang2020.com and tell us how $1,000 a month will help you do just that. That'll get them 10 extra votes. Absolutely. I mean, it's 10 families. Absolutely. What else we got? You're not doing this front page news thing pretty good.

What else you got, bro? What else I got? Mayor Pete, he was talking. Can we talk about that? Talking about what, though? Biden and Castro. Yeah,, though? Biden and Castro. Yeah, let's do Biden and Castro. Biden and Castro had a nice little exchange. Okay.

If you want Medicare, if you lose the job from your insurance company, from your employer, you automatically can buy into this. You don't have no pre-existing condition can stop you from buying in. You get covered. Now Castro responds. The difference between what I support

and what you support, Vice President Biden, is that you require them to opt in and I would not require them to opt in. They would automatically be enrolled. They wouldn't have to buy in. They do not have to buy in. You just said two minutes ago that they would have to buy in. You said they would have to buy in. Are you forgetting what you said two minutes ago? Best moment of the night, Julian Castro, age-shaming Joe Biden, accusing him of having dementia, clearly. I put too much sauce on that.

You did a little too much sauce. No, that sounded like he was accusing him of having dementia. Oh, boy. Anyone get to Mayor Pete? All right. This is why presidential debates are becoming unwatchable. This reminds everybody of what they cannot stand about Washington. Scoring points against each other, poking at each other,

and telling each other that you're my plan, your plan. Look, we all have different visions for what is better about our nation. Mayor Pete was solid last night, but when Mayor Pete was last here, I told him that he had to step it up because he kind of sucks in the debates. And he didn't suck in the debate last night. He's always solid, you know. But last night, what Julian Castro told him is real. Like, bro, this is the debates.

Right. Okay? We here to throw dirt on each other and throw mud on each other. All right? And question each other's records. Right. All right? That's what we here to do.

Okay. All right. All right. And last night, the Buccaneers beat the Panthers 2014. It was football on last night? Yeah. I watched a little bit of it. I was on the plane coming back from Milwaukee, dropping the clues bombs from Milwaukee.

I was in Milwaukee yesterday at the Minority Health Film Festival. Talking about my favorite subject, which is mental health. They gave me a plaque yesterday, a proclamation. Yeah, they gave me one when I was there a couple of weeks ago. And shout out to Milwaukee. If anybody's into real estate, that's my next spot where I'm going. Milwaukee has a lot of property, a lot of inexpensive property. They're building it up.

There's a lot of hardworking people in Milwaukee. So it's a great area to look for real estate. I just got so much love from Milwaukee. Salute to everybody that listens to us on V100.7, because that was the first city in the country that syndicated the Breakfast Club. Salute to Bailey. Salute to everybody that listens to us on V100.7 because that was the first city in the country that syndicated the Breakfast Club. Salute to Bailey. Salute to Reggie.

Every time we in Milwaukee, I just like the city of Milwaukee. I love it, too. Just a dope-ass city. Yes. All right. Shout out to Mr. G's Barbershop. Yeah.

All right. Well, that's the front page news. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent. Hit us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg.

I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go.

Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High.

It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth,

gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like, grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.

Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest,

whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Mark, good morning, Mark. Good morning. Oh my goodness. I thought this was a different Mark, but this is Marquesha. Marquesha, good morning. That's not, how many, my goodness. I thought this was a different Mark, but this is Marquisha.

Marquisha, good morning. That's not, how many times I got to tell you that's not my name? What's your name? Well, we not used to hearing a woman named Mark. That's not her full real name. It's short for something else. Can I have a nickname? Okay, nickname, Mark. Yeah, I think that we should call you Queesh.

That is not my name. Why you don't call me that? Your name Marquish, right? No, it's not Marquish. What's your name? Mark. Go ahead, Mark. Get it off your chest.

I saw your interview on Malik Yelba. What'd you think? He was rambling. Okay. Did it give you clarity or are you confused? No, I'm just as confused as everybody that was in your comments. Yeah, we definitely still confused. But you know what?

It's not about understanding their lifestyle. It's understanding that they have the right to live and they should not be killed for simply being transgender. Absolutely. I agree with that with any human being. But he still needs to talk to Chris, though. He did what with Chris? I said he needs to talk to Chris.

Chris who? Chris Brown. I'm not messing with you this morning. Shut up, Mark. I'm not messing with you this morning, Mark. What's wrong with you, Mark? Goodness gracious. Tim, good morning, Tim. Hey. Shut up, Mark. I'm not messing with you this morning, Mark. What's wrong with you, Mark? Goodness gracious. Tim, good morning, Tim.

Hey, good morning, DJ. I'm V, Charlie May. How you guys doing? What's up, King? What's up, bro? How you doing? Well, I just want to spread a little positivity today. You know, it's Friday the 13th.

I know it's supposed to be an unlucky day, but you know what? Positivity. I just want to say congratulations to you, Charlie May. Proclamation for yesterday. I did what yesterday? Let's talk about your proclamation. Oh, thank you, sir. Appreciate you.

Souto City of Milwaukee. Yeah, I follow you on Instagram. I DMed you not too long ago on a little bit of organization that I have here over in Long Island called Young and Motivated. My Instagram is Paul underscore Tales, B-A-L-E-Z. And, you know, basically I wanted to talk to you a little bit more and see if I can get you out here to Long Island or particularly Brentwood, New York,

maybe raise a little more awareness on mental health. You know what? Hold on. Let me put you on hold and you talk to his assistant and I'm sure if they got some time free,

there's somebody. I'm going to look up your Instagram because I don't be checking my DMs, but now that I know that you actually hit me, I'm going to reach back out to you. But matter of fact, contact the email on my IG. Contact the email on my IG.

Gotcha. Will do. All right. All right, brother. Have a good one. Darius. Good morning, Darius. Hey, how you doing?

What's up? Get it off your chest. Hey, every morning I wake up, leave the house at five o'clock in the morning, and my girl stays in the extra couple hours, and all she do is just rolls over to bed and just sleeps on my side, and it makes me angry every morning. How do you know she rolls on your side? How do you know somebody else is not on your side, brother?

Hey, come on, man. Ain't nobody else rolling on my side. But I know every time I leave the house, I love you, baby. She just sleeps on my side and just rolls over there and just makes me so mad because she can be getting up with me. I don't know. What the hell

is he even talking about? He's mad because he has to leave earlier than his girl and his girl stays home all day and sleeps in the bed and rolls over on his side of the bed. But I told him it's probably

somebody else in that bed, brother. I don't think nobody else in the bed, but what's wrong with your woman, your queen, staying at home while you go out and make the bread?

What's wrong with that? It ain't that. It's that I just get up so early. You know how people get up early. You just want to know something. Nah, we don't know how people get up early, bro. We have no clue on people getting up early, sir. None whatsoever.

What does it feel like? What does it feel like? To wake up at four in the morning and have to be to work by six. I wouldn't know the feeling. You know the feeling, Envy? Nope. Nah. Hey, but on the real, though, I want to shout out my girl.

I love her. We just closed on the house, though. Congratulations on us. Congratulations, bro. I love her, the real though, I want to shout out my girl. I love her. We just closed on the house, so congratulations on us. Congratulations, bro. I love her too, though, man. Thanks, y'all. All right, bro. Trav, what you want, Trav? Yo, what's up, MV?

What's up? You can talk about anything you want, Trav, except for the Cowboys. No, you talk about them Cowboys, Trav, and not in the Brokeback Mountain type of way either. Drop the glue bomb for the Dallas Cowboys because Trav, and not in the Brokeback Mountain type of way either. Draw the glue balls for the Dallas Cowboys because we follow you. Listen, we're going to work the bum skins, the dead skins ass on Sunday. Yes, we are. We got too many weapons out there.

Our wide receiving core is ridiculous and if we can't use the wide receiving core, we got Ezekiel, Elliot, and Tony Pollard to run them down the ground. That's right. So yeah, we killing y'all, man. Trav, goodbye. This is all year for real, Trav. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on.

Hold on right quick. Can I talk about something real quick? Can you shout at your son? You got a son? Go ahead. Hurry up, Trav. Chalamet, he's full of s***. Hey, watch it, man.

What? What'd I do? I want to let you know, when did y'all record that Malik Yoba interview? Two days ago. Why? No, wasn't it two days ago?

Yeah, like two, three days ago. Yep. I don't even remember. So it was this week that y'all recorded it, like on Monday. Why? No, was it two days ago? Yeah, like two, three days ago. Yep. I don't even remember. So it was this week. Did y'all record it like on Monday or something? Yeah, why was that? I think it was Monday.

It was Monday. As a matter of fact, it was Monday. It was Monday. Solomon, I called in and I asked you, did y'all ask him about him touching

that 14-year-old girl and you told me that you didn't even hear about it on Monday. No, you called after we did the interview. And we told you that we didn't ask him about it on Monday. No, you called after we did the interview. And we told you that we didn't ask him about it. It wasn't about that conversation. This was about transgenders and open conversation.

Yeah, if you recorded it on Monday, but you recorded Brilliant Idiot last week. And on Brilliant Idiot, you clearly said that you heard about it. I recorded Brilliant Idiot Wednesday. Yeah, and you heard about it. I recorded Brilliant Idiot Wednesday. Yeah, and you heard about it. No, Wednesday of this week. No, no, no, no, no. Last, your last Brilliant Idiot, the guy said, yeah, I heard. Trav, this seems like a domestic argument.

I'm going to have to put you on hold so you guys can argue at home, okay? All right, bye. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Damn, damn, it's a chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Mark, what's up, Mark?

Or Mac? What's going on, NJV? What's your name, Mark or Mac? It's Mac. All right, Mac, my bad. Get it off your chest, bro. All right, so yesterday, I lost a grand total of 180 to about 200 pounds.

Got my divorce decree. Oh, you got your divorce yesterday? Yes, I did. Congratulations. How come it didn't work? Let's see. She pulled out a gun on me three times. She fired it one time as I was PCSing from Fort Hood to Fort Stewart,

like the day before I was leaving. But why'd she do it, though? Why'd she pull out a gun? Did you shoot her? I got to hit both sides. Okay, both sides. The marriage, I mean, it was rocky at times, but she wasn't taking her medication when she had PTSD and whatnot. Oh, she's in the military, too. She's a veteran.

Well, she needed some help. She needed some help. You know, people will say that, you know. No, no, no. She was getting help. She was taking her medication, And then she started feeling better. And some people, when they start to feel better, they're like, okay, I don't need my medication anymore. That's when you need to keep taking your medication because that's when it's starting to help the most. You know, some people will say, you know, when your spouse is going through their worst, that's when you're supposed to hold her down even more. You know, I was holding her down for two years.

And two years, I was holding down two households and one income. And that was rough. Yeah, but you know what? It says tell death to us part through better or worse. And you're in the military. You're in the military. She's in the military. You should understand

what she was going through as a veteran. And I can't tell you how to live your life, but you should have helped her get some help. Did you at least try to help her get some help? You're talking about bills and all kinds of stuff. I'm talking about help for her mental health. I'm talking about help for her mental health. I'm talking about help for her mental health. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Well, I'm glad. If you got the divorce and it makes you happy,

I'm glad you're happy, brother. Enjoy your day. Hello, who's this? Oh my goodness. Is this Andre 3000? Sounds like it. Hello? Hello? Tracy, you playing your flute? Oh yeah, I was practicing while I was waiting for you guys. What's going on,000? Sounds like it. Hello? Hello? Tracy, you playing your flute? Oh, yeah.

I was practicing while I was waiting for you guys. What's going on, Tracy? I just wanted to say the gentleman yesterday who was talking about the football, he was saying that certain athletes shouldn't get anything until they earn it. Are you talking about Stephen A. Smith? He didn't say that. He said that too many people are being celebrated, and they haven't won anything yet. Okay, well, I understand what he's saying, but I'm saying that sport is highly volatile.

And even if they haven't really earned anything yet, the fact that they step on that field, they can lose their life, their limb, their mobility. Anything that they can get, as long as they're not being egregious or highly insensitive to other people's feelings, they should be entitled to, because they can get as long as they're not being egregious or highly insensitive to other people's feelings, they should be entitled to because they can lose their life the first

day they get on that field. I don't think whatever they can get, they can get because sooner or later, they're going to be exploited. You're just a slave anyway in a high intensity field where everybody sees you, but you still have the chains on you. Anytime they can tell you what to do, where to do,

where to go, what to wear, what to dress, what to say, you're done. You're right. So get it and then use it

for your community once you're free. That's what I say. I get what Stephen A was saying. Stephen A was just like some of these guys are just so popular

that they get endorsement deals and stuff like that but it should be based off performance, not popularity. But like she said, you step on that field, you get injured, that's it, your career's over. You know what I mean? And that's something that should be true. When like she said, you step on that field, you get injured, that's it.

Your career is over. You know what I mean? And that's something that should be true. When you're young, you're stupid. It takes a little while for you to acclimate to certain situations where you say, you know, I'm acting like a buffoon. I'm doing this. I should earn it.

You got to do something. You're a young guy. You got to give them some time to mature a little bit. Now, Tracy. And I think they'll make it if you just leave them alone and just, like, not harass them so much. Now, Tracy, do me a favor. Yes.

It's Friday. Play Big Pimpin' on that flute. Oh, okay. Hold on. Whoa. Hold on. Let me get in the right position. Yeah, you got to sit up.

I can tell that you're laying down. That didn't sound good, Tracy. Just try this again. Nah. Nah. That's Just try this again. Nah. Nah. That's parking lot pimping. Yep. Thank you, Tracy.

Goodness gracious. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. When we come back, we got rumors on the way. Swiss Beats, he buys a whole home, like a real home. And it kind of reminds you of Tony Stark's home. We'll explain it when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's

doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh, my God. What is that? Bullets.

Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.

After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people you know, follow and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself.

It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Breakfast Club.

Listen up. It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip. The Rumor Report. Gossip. Gossip. With Angela Yee.

It's the Rumor Report. The Breakfast Club. All right. Well, Swiss Beats, I'm sure by now y'all have seen the new houses Swiss and Alicia have bought. It looks incredible. Let me tell you, Swiss is my inspiration when it comes to, he inspires me to go harder.

He sent me a picture of that house about a week ago, two weeks ago, and I couldn't even reply. I was just like. $20.8 million. Yes, and today's his birthday, too. Shout out to Swiss Beats. Give him a round of applause. Drop a bomb for him.

Do both. That is crazy. All right. Well, here's what he told Angie Martinez about their new mansion. Because the reports say it's like the Tony Stark's house. Yeah. Is this really what it is? Yeah.

But is it like a recreation of it? It's where Tony Stark's got the inspiration. So Wallace Cunningham is the designer. The Razor House is very, very famous piece of architecture. And yeah, that's the house. And you bought it. That's the house. It's in Arizona, so I guess Swiss is moving

to Arizona. I mean, they have so much money, they're going to probably live both. The house is amazing. It has like a huge garage. The views are just to live to die for. I mean, it's... To live, to die. Yeah, it is.

If you haven't seen it, I was Googling it. I mean, Swiss, sheesh. All right, now, another good news, DJ Khaled and his wife, Nicole Tuck, they are expecting their second child together. So congratulations to them. Congratulations to Khaled, man. Yes, he wrote, God is the greatest. And he did an Instagram video of his wife receiving an ultrasound.

That's dope. Congratulations to Caleb. Did he say another one? Yes, he did. He did, right? I'm sure he did. He had to. At the post, he put, Mama, Assad, Assad, we got another one. There you go. You gotta do it. Alright, and speaking of kids, let's talk about Chrissy Teigen's daughter, Luna.

She is always saying funny things, and Chrissy's always talking about the funny things that her daughter says. Well, she posted this video of her daughter, Luna, talking about her boyfriend. He always listens to my feelings. Oh, that's nice. What else does he do? He always shares. Aw. Is he cute? Yeah. Is he your boyfriend?

No. He's a cute, cute boy friend. Nope. Aw, it's so cute when little kids say funny things. How old is her daughter? Three. Nope. Okay.

Yeah, I'm with Charlamagne. Nope. Not encouraging none of that from my daughters. Nope. Oh, my God. Not even a little bit. Nope. She don't even know what she's really saying.

That's right. It just sounds cute. Nope. They could be friends. Don't. They could be friends. And she has the nicest, cutest little thing. She got a friend that's a boy, bro.

Nope. He listens to my feelings. Oh, I love that. He's really, really cute. They only do that at that age, and then we come back around in late 30s, so you better enjoy it now, little girl. All right? You only care about your feelings at that age in the late 30s.

All right, and congratulations to David O. and his girlfriend, Choma. They are now engaged, so that's exciting news. Now, for everybody that's engaged, there's people that are getting divorced, and Adele has filed for divorce from her husband. And they've been married after, I guess, more than seven years they've been together. And the divorce filing was a long time coming. You know, back in April, she announced that they were separated. They do have one child together.

And they are committed to raising their son together lovingly. They've been mostly out of the spotlight with their relationship since they started dating. And, you know, they got married in a very secret ceremony. She didn't even confirm that they were married until a couple of years ago. And now, I guess it didn't even confirm that they were married until a couple of years ago and now I guess it didn't work out so it's over. Okay.

But here's something that is working out. A girlfriend's reunion on Black-ish. Come on now. What's girlfriend? Drop one of Clues Bond for girlfriends, Dammit.

Don't worry about it. If you don't know, you don't need to know and I'm not here to explain. What's girlfriends? I don't know what that is. Talk to them, Yee. What they doing?

Of course, you should know who that is but Tracee Ellis Ross said that basically she's going to merge the worlds of blackish and girlfriends. She said it was surreal for me and so much fun. We got the audio. So, we have an extra special

episode of blackish and it's a feminist episode and I brought in some backup from some of my girlfriends. Oh, hell yes. What? Shut every door. Oh, yes.

Hell yes. Hell yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Hell yes. That's why your nipples are so hard this morning. Look at God. Look at God.

Look at God. Won't he do it? This is going to get us girlfriends, fanatics, closer to the closure that we all need. Because I'm going to tell you what's going to happen. You saw how this story took off in the news yesterday, right? And then when it airs, it's going to be trending. And then everybody's going to be wanting to go watch reruns of Girlfriends. And the DVD sales are going to shoot up. And some executive who's culturally clueless,

some white culturally clueless executive, or hopefully some black executive who knows, says, you know what would be good? If we gave these women a miniseries and gave the fanatics of Girlfriends the proper closure that they deserve. Because if you know how it ended, it ended just open-ended.

We don't know what happened. Do you want to know when it's airing, this episode? October what? October 8th. And Black is just returned for their sixth season on September 24th. Come on now. You know what's funny? Charlamagne walked in today and his nipples were hard. I was like, oh, because I got a haircut. My nipples were not hard.

You know what I mean? I thought he was looking at me. But it was actually because Girlfriends is back. My nipples were not hard, but I am very excited because I am a Girlfriends fanatic. He said it was gay.

So what? It's gay to watch a show full of black women. Who said that? Drum. The guy who hates the beehive. Okay. All right.

Why do people say that, though? Being that I love girlfriends, they be like, oh, you gay. He said it's because your nipples are hard, but that's not true. Watching a show full of women makes you gay? It makes your nipples hard. I'm gay then. What are y'all even talking about? I don't know.

Being gay. File keep up, ye. Me. And loving girlfriends. All right. Well, I'm Angela Yee, and that's your rumor reporter. I mean, Malik Yova did ask you. You didn't answer correctly. He said, what are you? And you... Yeah, I, I'm Angela Yee and that's your rumor report. I mean, Malik Yova did ask you. You didn't answer correctly.

He said, what are you? And you... Yeah, I was confused. At least he's honest about that. That was a trick question. That was a trick question. What are you? And by the way,

what I've been calling myself all of these years, they was like, nope, you're a cisgendered, heterosexual, something else. Male loving male. Male loving male.

They said that for real? Oh, they didn't say that. I'm male loving male. Male loving male. They said that for real? Oh, they didn't say that. I'm a good one drunk. Did I confuse you? I couldn't even find, see how you confused me? I couldn't even follow you. You did pretty good.

I'm good. All right, when we come back, front page news, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Yep, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club.

Charlamagne Tha God, Angela Yee, DJ Envy. We got front page news coming up right now. Angela Yee. Yes, so of course, we're all talking about the debates from last night. Did you watch? I did watch. I caught the last two hours when I was on the plane.

I saw a lot of people talking about who were the big winners and losers. Who did you like? I don't think that there was any winners and losers last night. Like, it's hard to watch those elections and not think Trump 2020, not because the Democrats don't be speaking of things of substance, but because none of them are entertaining. And I hate to say it, but you got to be entertaining nowadays to capture the casual voters, to get people energized about coming to the polls.

I don't see anything transformative up there. All right, well, I'll tell you what did happen. We'll give you some highlights. Now, Andrew Yang, you know, he's been talking about this dividend that he thinks people should get the one thousand dollars and he's going to test it out. Here's what he said. My campaign will now give a freedom dividend of one thousand dollars a month for an entire year to 10 American families. Someone watching this at home right now. If you believe that you can solve your own problems better than any politician, go to Yang 2020 dotcom and tell us how $1,000 a month will help you do just that.

Well, he'll get 10 extra voters because of that. Those 10 families, he got them on lock. All right, now another thing that happened was Beto O'Rourke, people and everyone on stage is really commending him on his stance when it comes to gun control. Are you proposing taking away their guns and how would this work? I am if it's a weapon that was designed to kill people on a battlefield. In Odessa, I met the mother of a 15-year-old girl who was shot by an AR-15

and that mother watched her bleed to death over the course of an hour because so many other people were shot by that AR-15 in Odessa and Midland. There weren't enough ambulances to get to them in time. Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47. I forgot Beto O'Rourke was even on that stage last night. You know what? And I think because this is a debate, right? So everybody was going back and forth and trying to play each other.

But everybody did big him up. And I think it shows also in a way that they're not feeling threatened. He just gets lost, man. Being a young, cisgendered, male-loving female. Let's not make any assumptions about what his gender or sexuality. We don't know. You're very true. But he gets lost on that stage.

All right. Now, Joe Biden, he was asked about Barack Obama and the deportation policies when they were in office, when Biden was vice president and Obama was president and all the negative backlash they got. Here's what he said. You didn't answer the question. Did you make a mistake with those deportations? The president did the best thing that was able to be done. How about you? I'm the vice president of the United States. All right. And what people don't like about Joe Biden is that is that he will invoke barack obama's name whenever it's to his benefit but whenever there's policies that are questioned then it's all of a

sudden well it wasn't my decision and one person that pointed that out was julian castro my problem with vice president biden and cory pointed this out last time is every time something good about barack obama comes up he says oh i was there I was there, I was there, I was there. That's me, too. And then every time somebody questions part of the administration that we were both part of, he says, well, that was the president. I mean, he wants to take credit for Obama's work, but not have to answer to any questions. I did not say I don't stand. I stand with Barack Obama all eight years. Good, bad and indifferent.

It's a damn shame that Joe Biden is the front runner because you cannot look on that stage and say to yourself, he is like the runaway top-tier candidate that the Democrats should be getting behind because I don't know what the hell Joe Biden be talking about 90% of the time. He just be rambling. All right, well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your Front Page News. That's right, and a man who doesn't ramble is coming up next. His name is Malcolm Gladwell.

Huh? Oh, Hitmaker's coming up next. Oh, okay. Well, I'm not as excited. Formerly known as Young Bird. Yeah, formerly known as Young Bird. But he's a great conversationalist, I will tell you that. Yeah.

Hitmaker will talk about anything, and he does not hold back. Yes. He'll be here to talk about all the records that he's produced in the past couple years. I didn't even know that he was doing all of this work that he's doing. Yeah, he has a talk about all the records that he's produced in the past couple years. I didn't even know that he was doing all of this work that he's doing. Yeah, he has a lot of number one records that he's produced, so he's made that pivot from being an artist known as Youngberg to being a producer, Hitmaker.

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We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. I don't know if you should call him Young Berg or Hitmaker. Hitmaker. What do you call yourself now? What do you prefer nowadays? Hitmaker. Hitmaker's in the building.

What up, sir? Oh, man, just chilling, man. How you feeling? Happy birthday. He's a Virgo as well. Fellow Virgo. Yes, sir. You already know.

So it's like Young Berg dead, kind of? Young Berg died so Hitmaker could live. Hey. Why don't you do like a whole ceremony, like really play already know. So it's like Youngberg dead, kind of? Youngberg died, so hitmaker Khalil. Why didn't you do like a whole ceremony, like really play it up, make it a big thing? No, for real. I mean, the internet might have did it for me already, you know what I'm saying? So I had to do what I had to do. That was one of the best rebranding situations I've seen.

Yeah, I think in the last 10 years it's probably been myself, 2 Chainz and Joe Budden. Yep, those three especially. And I was just crazy. Like, a lot of people didn't know, like, even when I took the job

to be vice president of Atlantic Records, like, I never did, like, a press release. I never did nothing like that because I knew this was going to hate, you know what I'm saying?

I think it's better to stay low and keep firing. You got a job at Atlantic Records? I'm vice president of Atlantic Records. I had no idea. Yeah.

When the hell did that happen? Two and a half years ago. Wow. He was making hits for a long time. And Joby's trying to act like we in Atlantic Pocket. Hold on, hold on. And he in bed with you, and you the VP of Atlantic Pocket. By the way, after the Breakfast Club interview.

Yeah, after the Breakfast Club interview. What do you mean? My last interview here, I took the job after that. And then we were up here talking. I think at that point, like, I had a couple number ones. I did Big Sean bounce back. I did Chris Brown party. And then going to Atlantic here talking. I think at that point, like, I had a couple number ones. I did Big Sean bounce back. I did Chris Brown party. And then going to Atlantic, man, in the last two and a half years,

as a writer and a producer, I've sold over 15 million records with him. Congratulations, brother. What's that? A&R, VP at A&R. Gave A Boogie his first number one record. Did Meek Mill first number one record. So, good vibes. Talk that talk, Headmaker.

I love it, though. So, you and Jeremiah are partners still? Nah, like, that's my brother. He changed my life. Like, for talk, Hitmaker. I love it, though. So you and Jeremiah are partners still? Nah, like, that's my brother. He changed my life, like, for real, for real. When nobody was rocking with me, he took me on tour, and everybody know Jeremiah bounced to the beat of his own drum. We never seen him. Exactly.

So I was able to have, like, 50 Jeremiah records. Nobody has Jeremiah hooks and all that other stuff, and I was able to run it up, and that really put me in a position that really, like, changed my life for real, for real real for real yeah that's interesting because I always thought you guys were partners kind of in the or is it is that unofficially partners or it's just my brother and we just work like we're serial collaborators like and you know we just work all the time that's what's funny the funny is that the girl from loving hip-hop hazel eat introduced me to Jeremiah and um wow we went to the studio to do it well Jeremiah came to do a record for her and then

it turned into just me and him working and me giving a song to Meek and Meek and Chris Brown for his collaboration. So loving hip-hop helped your life? I'm a hip-hop some bulls**t, but I mean, I'm glad I made it out. Who isn't? Me, Cardi B, f**k it.

I would say K. Michelle, but she right back in the s**t anyway. Joe Button. Joe Button's right back in the s**t anyway. He's a show still. He's talking about made it out. What about T.R. Murray? You used to be with T.R. Murray? Nah, I feel bad for T.R's a show still. He's talking about Made It Out. What about T.R. Murray? You used to be to T.R. Murray? Nah, I feel bad for T.R. Murray too.

You should lend her some bread, bro. Yeah, so she can pay 50. No, she ain't got it. She ain't got it. What do you mean back in the shits? I mean back on the show. Back on the bullshit.

I could just imagine what Joe was going to go through this season with him, you know what I'm saying? And his baby mother not being together. They're going to spice that up for sure. I don't understand why he's back on Loving Hip Hop.

The man told me he got a million dollars to do it. I still don't believe him. No way. He's a liar. God damn it. He's a liar. No, that's a motherfucking lie. Still don't believe him. But I thought you wanted to go back on the show at one point.

Hell no. Not after they tried to trash me with that whole shit. What's wrong with you, man? Because I don't understand why the fuck you'd just be saying s*** like that as if we're not all in this business and we can't fact check. Joe driving around looking for cars. He might have got that.

You ain't got no million dollars to be on no loving hip hop. You got to ask Mona. Please. Yeah, that's how I landed. Bitch, one wouldn't approve that vibe. I wouldn't approve nobody. Come on, Bird. S*** is getting $1,500 an episode of being on a hip hop.

Joe might not get a damn $1,500. I'm not saying Joe is, but come on, man. You're a million dollars. You're not get a damn fifteen hundred? Stop it. I'm not saying Joe is, but come on, you're a million dollars. Not a million. Or maybe they doubled up. Maybe they gave him five and gave Sin five and that's how you make it.

Joe get more than five thousand. He's not doing no damn five hundred thousand for the season. Five hundred for the million. For the season. Five hundred thousand. You think that?

That sounds kind of high too. Who you think is the most paid person on Love & Hip Hop? I would think Remy Moore and Pat Pooh. Right now? It depends. I mean,

I don't really watch this show right now. I don't know. Somebody in the back said Riz Dallas. Shut up. But then, you know what? You have a lot of

connections on there because A1. I don't f*** with A1. But you did. But I'm saying you did have a lot of connections on A1. I don't f*** with A1.

At all? Nah. Why you don't f*** with A1, Burke? Because, like, they put me in a mix of all that Love and Hip Hop s***.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I was trying to separate myself from that because I went through traumatic shit on the show. Like, they tried to, like, kill my whole career again. And, like, they put me around a bunch of bulls**t. And I was like, yo, keep that away from me. Then he went and trademarked, like, I would always say, like,

Tuh, like, that's my s**t. Then he went and trademarked my s**t behind my back. Isn't that your album name? Yeah, he went and trademarked it. And he has s**t apparel and everything that says Tuh. He gave that your album name? Yeah, he went trademark. And he has peril and everything that says T. He gave us some bags and everything. What does T mean? I would think that was an acronym if I saw it. It's just like f***ing.

It could be used for multiple different things. You know what I'm saying? He took that behind your back and trademarked it? Yeah, he did. And y'all remember the video where they were on live in the studio? And people ran up in the studio? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was cap, though. That was

love and hip hop cap for them to add to their whole shit. Wow. So that's where we parted ways because I'm like, yo, if y'all could use me for that type of bait just for whatever y'all doing, then ain't no telling what y'all could do with me. And like, I'm vice president

of Atlantic Records. I can't be having no shit like that go on. You know what I'm saying? That was literally my pace of business that Atlantic put me in a studio to be at. So I had to cut that off for real. So hold on. Did you know it was fake when it was happening? Um, he was just on Instagram Live. You know what I'm saying?

Like, he would walk in and out the room and be doing a lot of different stuff. I didn't know nothing. So when they ran up in there, you thought it was a real situation. Yeah. So that could have went bad. Yeah. Yeah, you could have had a gun, you thought it was a real situation. Yeah. So that could have went bad. Yeah. Yeah, you could have had a gun, something could have, you know what I mean?

Your people could have shot somebody like, yeah. Who you telling? Who you telling, bro? Over loving hip hop? So do you want to rap again? You don't want to be an artist anymore.

Absolutely not. See, the thing is is that a lot of people are like, yeah, I'm a writer. Yeah, I'm a producer, but I'm about to be the biggest executive in the game.

Like, Craig Calman going to have to get up out that seat for me. You know what I'm saying? One of these days, like, I'm about to One of these days, like, I'm about to be bigger than every executive out here because I actually have

the relationships and I actually make these records. Like, when I created Dangerous for Meek, like, that was just something, me just being in the studio. We did that song in 30 minutes and then it turned into

being a big record for them. And I think that a lot of A&Rs, no disrespect to them, a lot of them are glorified middlemen. You know what I'm saying? They're just like, oh, I know this person, or they're taking credit for records because they put somebody in the studio

with somebody when I'm actually on the ground level getting my hands dirty with this s***. But there's a talent to hooking people up and putting people with people as well. I understand what you're saying. But my talent is just bigger. I'm not a s***. You did s*** on Craig Comer just now. No, he said I want his job. I want his job. I'm supposed to aspire to that

LA Reid All these different executives That I'm learning from QCP Coach K Like I'll look them in they face And be like yo I'm going to be bigger than you

And nothing wrong with that Nah But I will say It's very hard for creatives To be in those seats That's why a guy like Craig Would be in that seat Like they don't put

Creatives in those seats That's a lie Craig Calman is a co-producer I like it like that Cardi B record with J Balvin and all them. He actually did music? Yeah.

He played music. You go to Craig Calvin's house. He gave him a sample, yeah. He has vinyl, like, all covering all the walls. So he picked a sample? Yeah. L.A. Reid,

he's an executive, too. He was a music creator. He was a creator. So that's a talent that's not a talent, like, on your level. As far as sitting down and actually doing the...

Yeah, like, and really creating the stuff. I think that it's really more so, like, the best thing about what I do is that, like I said, like, A Boogie had never worked with nobody like that, like, closely because he just goes in the studio and just kills these records and goes crazy, and they plaque up and they go stupid.

I was the first one for them to, like, really open the fold. We went to Hawaii. He gave me his whole album. Look back at it. It was a song that was like, we had that song for nine months. So me being Vice President of Atlantic Records, I was able to hear the record. We was waiting on a sample to be clear. The song was actually five minutes and some change long.

I took the record in Hawaii. I added the snaps to it, and I restructured the record and made it a three-minute record. And it was our first number one again. Well, Craig, I might be the exception to the rule, but we're not going to sit here and act like these white executives be having talent. Like, come on, stop now. Charlamagne said that. And they be culturally clueless like a mother******, 95% of the time. A lot of people.

It's a lot of nepotism that go on with this ****. You know, like, when one person get it up, they get a little homie the job. You know what I'm saying? Which is nothing wrong with that as long as you qualify for the gig, you know? All right, we got more with Young Bird, a.k.a. Hitmaker. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're kicking it with Young Bird, a.k.a. Hitmaker. Yee. Now, let's talk about your project, right? Because you have Thoughtbox out now. Yeah, Thoughtbox just came out.

What the hell is Thoughtbox? It's my single. I hear it on Sirius all the time. Yeah. I thought you said you don't want to be an artist, though. Huh? You said you don't want to be an artist. No.

It's a Khaled-type thing. It's a producer album. So I had the pleasure to work with on Thoughtbox, A Boogie, 2 Chainz, Meek Mill, YBN Amir, and Tyga are all on the record. So it's all... So I would assume that it's pretty easy for you to get anybody to be on your album because you work with a lot of these artists and they want to get some beats from you. So do you do like exchanges?

Yeah, we could swap it out. That's what I did with everybody. Well, first and foremost, a lot of people will. I didn't got so much money and I didn't got so lit that I'm not really charging people. You know what I'm saying? Like if I got a relationship with you, like a 2 Chainz, I've known him since he was Titty Boy. His record with Ariana Grande, Rule The World, his last hit. I did that.

I didn't charge him, though. You know what I'm saying? That's how I was able for him to get on my record and everybody that's pretty much on that song. But you still get your money from royalties, publishing. I remember when Def Jam asked me what should be the single off 2 Chainz's album, and I said that. And he was like, all right.

No, matter of fact, they said anything but the Ariana Grande record. And look at it. It's about to get a plaque right now. That's some of them people that don't know what the f*** they're talking about. Shout out to everybody at Def Jam. Maybe they was going through, you know,

they just transitioned and they been hiring and firing people a lot. So, I mean, maybe they was tripping and lost in the sauce on that one. What did Hitmaker learn from Youngberg?

Youngberg made a lot of mistakes. Yeah. Keep the right people around you. Never do too much. You know, I was wilding back in the day. Wilding? Yeah. Was you on drugs or drinking a lot? Like, what was it? I did, I was wilding back in the day. Wilding? Yeah.

Was you on drugs or drinking a lot? Like, what was it? I did ecstasy a lot back in the day. And, you know, like, it was good for me because I made all them hit records on it. And it was bad for me because, you know, you get out of character. And when you're young and you just get millions of dollars out of nowhere, like, and you don't have no OGs, you don't have nobody telling you what to do, what not to do, how to move, how not to move, you end up in some young bird s***. And hopefully you work hard enough to become a hit maker. You have the most random stories, I'm sure, of things that happen.

Yeah, my life is a real f***ing movie. Like, for real, for real. You worked a lot with Nicki Minaj. Yeah. What did you think about her coming out and saying that she's retiring? The thing is, with Nicki, I think that people feel like she's going through something right now, but everybody sitting in this room,

no, that's just Nicki Minaj, yo. Like, you know how many times she done cursed me out and said some of the craziest shit to me in the world, but on the flip... What's the worst she said to you? Oh, Meek was gonna beat me up

at one point when they was dating and all that. Yeah, like, she... No, she called me bitch-ass, eat a dick. I was on a Nicki hate train. But my thing is, like, yo... You those. You've done something before. Yeah, like she, no, she called me bitch ass, eat a dick. I was on a Nicki hate train. But my thing is like, yo, I-

You are, you work for Atlantic. You know Atlantic had a plot. No, absolutely not. And at the end of the day, I cannot say nothing bad about Nicki

because yeah, she cursed me out and we did a lot of shit together. Like when I was, when I was working with her, she really put her arm around me and really embraced me

and like I got a lot of clout, like a lot of cool points because I'm in Nicki Minaj's studio every day. I ended up doing six records on her album. It was great times for me. But now that I got money and I'm rich, it won't be tolerated talking to me like that. I can't do it. Did she accuse you of being on the hate train because you worked for Atlantic? No, not at all. She was actually proud of me.

When I first got my gig, like I told her, she flew me down to Miami. Because for a while, her and Meek were dealing with each other. And I'm going to keep it 100. Meek voted me off the island. You know what I'm saying? At that time? At that time, it was his girl. I was in the studio all the time with her.

And I just think it was like, yo, he got to move around. So they removed me. I moved around. And then when they broke up, she hit me back and we ended up working a little bit. Why did he remove you? I'm confused. Why did he remove you from the studio? It's just crazy times, Charla, man. It was

just real crazy times. You thought that you was trying to get with Nikki? Was it justifiable? Could you understand it? The truth of the matter is that I didn't know him and Nikki were dating. And you tried to holler? No. So I would see Meek out and I'm like, yo, I'm finna go do this. I'm finna go do this with some

hoes or whatever. I didn't know they was dating. So I'm in the studio just talking s***. Like, you know what I'm saying? I seen Meek earlier, you know, this, that, and the third. We was kicking it. Snitching. She went and snitched on me. Like, I didn't know that they were dating at all. And that's how we got, that's how it happened.

So you would see Meek with girls. No, now you're wrong. Now you're wrong. And Meek is my guy, so don't even do that. Meek was just at my birthday dinner. That's my dog. So don't even throw me in the mix. So you would call Nicky a hoe? No. Like, say he was out in the club and Meek was in the club.

He said, oh yeah, I was in the club. Meek was there. He might not have been doing nothing. Oh, got you, got you, got you. Got you, got you, got you. So you was in the club and Meek was in the club. He said, oh, yeah, I was in the club. His man, Hoes, Meek, was there. He might not have been doing nothing. Oh, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you. He was in the club with some hoes. Got you. He cleared that up for you, bro. Thank you. I'm a woman.

I know what it is. It was weird for me, too, because Safari was actually around at the same time, too. So, like, I would be in a studio with Meekie and Safari would be in a studio. And then, but she was, I don't know. It was during that transition period yeah it was a weird time when did you make the decision to like i guess fully commit to the hit maker thing um i just realized that yo like i got good product but people didn't want it from me they didn't want me to be the one that was delivering a message or delivering a song so my first big ones were um

john by rick ross and little wayne i was Grammy nominated for that. Shout out to Aeon Keys. You did John? Yep. Then my next big one was Tamar Braxton, the one, and that's what prompted me to fly back and move back to L.A. Shout out to Vincent Herbert and Tamar Braxton. You know, that was a good look for y'all. For y'all.

You got it all. You got it all. No boy shit, though. And Tamar, it's funny as hell, yo. It's funny as hell It's funny as hell With Tamar Cause after I gave her the hit Like

She went on a rant That I didn't do this And I didn't do that Or whatever And then I was at the BMI Awards And I seen her And I touched her

And she was like Vince He touched me And I just touched her On the shoulder I was like Damn I just gave you a hit

And then from there What did Vince do When she did that He was just like, hi, bro. I can look you in the mouth open. I don't want to look at no man with their mouth open. So why'd you work with Vince? His mouth was always open.

Listen, man. So she didn't realize that you worked on the song? Oh, she knew. Rest in peace, LaShawn Daniels, who just passed. She for sure knew what I did and what my collaboration to the song was. They took my tag off the song. Damn. They went crazy on me.

Why? I don't know. They didn't want to give me the credit. You know, I wasn't big enough at that point, I guess. And then she all in my pictures, on my likes, my comments. So I guess she want another. Your perk don't care, man. Is it better for you to lay low?

Is it better for you to like stay behind the scenes and just write and produce? Yeah. Why would I want to work As hard as these Got to work Yeah Like I'm in a studio You think I want to run around Like for my single

And for my stuff I'm doing it strictly because They say Youngberg was finished He'll never have another Hit record again Youngberg is definitely finished I went and I had hit records Now I'm about to have

A hit record with my own single But you're a hit maker though Exactly You're not Youngberg no more I mean if I Until I get a face off Or something like that I'm still going to be me You, now I'm about to have a hit record with my own singer. But you're a hit maker though. Exactly. You're not Young Bird no more. I mean, until I get a face off or something like that, I'm still going to be me. You know what I'm saying?

You married? No, not at all. Oh, I see the ring on you on that ring finger. To the game. I'm like Marcus Graham right now, for real, for real. All right, we got more

with Young Bird, a.k.a. Hit Maker when we come back. Let's get into his new joint. It's called Thought Box. It's the Baptist Club. Good morning. That was Thought Box. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. That was Thought Box.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Hitmaker, Youngberg is here. Yee. Since you said that Love & Hip Hop tried to destroy you, that was the whole situation with Masika, right? Where they said that you had attacked her,

things had gotten physical. Have you guys resolved that situation since then, you and Masika? Me and Masika talk all the time. In fact, she actually came up here and told y'all that none of that shit happened, and Charlamagne was sniffing her seat and all that other shit. I remember that interview.

I sniffed Masika's seat? It must have been a long time ago. It had to be about seven years ago. That was about four, five years ago. Nah, about six. Masika wasn't famous seven years ago, bro. She ain't famous now. Love and hip-hop.

Listen, sniffing seat era was about six years ago. Love and hip-hop was 2014 Cedar was about six years ago Loving hip hop was 2014 so it was five years ago But there were also rumors that she was dating

Jeremiah at a period in time I think he smashed probably I don't know So does that make you feel away knowing that was your ex

and then she dated Jeremiah No This is Hollywood so let's be clear the whole cast I probably smashed the whole cast of Loving Hip Hop when we was on that shit.

It's mad women. I won't even say because I'm not a kiss and tail type dude. You just did. We just kissed the whole cast. I ain't say no names. I'm just saying. It's Hollywood. You know how it go, man.

We all, you know, kind of like. It's like incestual. It's weird. But, you know, I'm not on that no more. I will not be dealing with any leftovers from any uh of my friends or colleagues that i work with just know i will be importing and exporting or doing something out the norm because 90 day fiance no i don't think i sniffed her seat either you most definitely don't disrespect my seeker like that man you live jlo that's it i don't we might have to go back and look at that footage.

It exists. He wouldn't have made it up, though. I don't think that hitmaker would make that up. No, because we live in this era. You see something on the internet, you think that's it all the time. You make little mama cry one time. I watch all the Breakfast Club interviews, Charlamagne. Thank you.

Yes, you did, bro. I was a wild boy back then. Black men don't cheat, Charlamagne. Not no more. We've all grown. We've all evolved. You know what I'm saying? We different people. Good'm not a kid. I'm not a boy. Black men don't cheat, y'all. Not no more. We've all grown. We've all evolved. You know what I'm saying? We different people.

Good morning, Masika. How are you? I don't like him saying that he you. What? Whatever he said. I didn't even say that. Oh, no, he said Jeremiah you. No, I didn't.

Yo, Masika. He just said that. He said he don't know me. I don't know, maybe. He said he don't know. I don't know. I mean, they did date. What the words in that man's mouth?

I thought he said that. He did. You didn't even say that? No, I didn't even say that. Oh,'s mouth i thought that was something that was known like i didn't know that that's new to me okay so like hey guys if you're dating and you're adult and it's year 2019 safe to say you didn't got some some action i mean i wouldn't consider myself dating nobody if i haven't slept with them she might not want to give it to you she might want to wait till marriage you wouldn't be with somebody who's celibate? Nah, uh-uh.

See, I got to smash the first night immediately. The first night? You have to? Yeah, because I don't want to waste my time. What if you put in like two months into something and not get something, and then the sexual chemistry isn't there? What if you don't perform well that first night? I sold 20 million records in the past two and a half years.

I shouldn't have to wait for no people. 28 and a half million records, Charlamagne. My bad. Eight number ones. So many top tens I can't even really count them. But, I mean, it's been a lot. What if you performed terribly that first night? You asked for a do-over?

Do you ever have to apologize? It depends on how I feel about the chick. You know what I'm saying? Because, like, sometimes, you know, it could just be like an in-and-out type situation. Or if I really wanted to go in, I would catch a redo. Don't you feel like you have to represent in this climate? Because they'd be like, yeah, I was with Hitmaker and I don't know why they call him that because that hit did not make it.

Nah, I mean, you got money, you might not have to hit it as hard as you think so. Oh, come on. For real, for real. People talk. Money don't got nothing to do with it. You know how much they didn't say about me? I do not care what nobody got to say about me. Run my check. I'm happy.

Are there people that you'll never forgive from during that era that might want to work with you that are big, but you're like, I'll never work with that person? Trick Trick, Maino. It ain't no reason to work with Trick Trick or Maino anyway. Right now. I mean, seriously. I mean, God bless them, both of their careers. But I never, what people didn't know about the fact that I never met Trick Trick a day

in my life. I don't know that man. I don't know them people. And Mano, you know what I'm saying? He was a, he's a cool guy. Like, I just think that that got blown out of proportion and that was something that he kind of took and ran with it on a little press publicity type of thing or whatever. Why you say there's no reason to work with them though?

Yo, Charlotte, man, you trying to get me in trouble right now? He paused. No, I'm asking a question. I mean, I still listen to Maino. I don't listen to Maino. Yeah, I like Maino music. I mean, personally, I just don't feel like they're relevant to what's going on. I don't think I'm catching a number one with them.

I don't want to leave this out there because, you know, everybody's grown. Everybody's evolved. People are going to think you took a shot at Maino. They're going to think you took a shot at Trick Trick. No, absolutely not. Let them know it's all love. Absolutely not. I have nothing but love for Maino and Trick Trick.

Those are things that happened over 10 years ago. I cannot carry that type of energy with me. No disrespect. I respect everybody. There you go. And when is their full album coming out? I'm going to just drop single after single after single and go platinum with all of them

and then drop the album like Tiger and my shit and go gold the first week. And what's the name of the album? Big Ta. Who else is on the album? The whole industry. Charlamagne, Lil Duval, Black Man Don't Cheat remix on my album.

Let's do it. I don't know if you're into that, if you're part of the Faithful Black Male Association. I can, though. You gotta believe in me. You know, I gotta get a part of that. Do you got a girl? You got a woman? No. So, I mean, at some point... You want one? Yeah, of course. At some some point i gotta settle down i'm getting old i gotta share these experiences with somebody that's what kevin live told me a long

time ago find somebody to share your experiences exactly because like you can achieve all these goals and then get all this wealth and get everything and then have nobody to share it with and then you look back and just be like damn i just worked my whole life and now i don't got nothing but i'm still young so probably like 35 you know what I'm saying I get active. Do you take girls like on vacation and things like that? Yeah of course yeah of course why not? I'm just asking I haven't seen no pictures of that so. Nah see we keeping on a low

I ain't like Joe Button like how he was just saying what up what up. Turks and Kegels. Yeah. I was there that same weekend he was there too. I thought y'all was together. Hell no. Why wouldn't you be with Joe? What's wrong with that? Joe my man but I wouldn't know. You on vacation with Joe? No. First of all? Joe my man, but I wouldn't know. You on vacation with Joe? No. First of all, Joe was ducked off because Joe was with some woman.

I don't know who he was with. We didn't know this. Joe wasn't trying to run into none of us. I seen her. She was very voluptuous, to say the least. Wait, you were in Texas also? Nah, I mean, I seen it on the Gram. I was like, yo, sorry.

I hit him, though. I was like, yo, where you at? And he was like, let's go get some. I said, let's go get dinner. He was like, hit me back the next morning. He was like, man, I mean, I seen it on the Gram just like that. I hit him though, I was like, yo, where you at? And he was like, let's go get some, I said, let's go get dinner. He was like, he hit me back the next morning. He was like, man, I would've went out, but I was knee deep in some ass last night. See?

That's when you said that. That sounds like a private conversation, guys. That sounds like a private conversation. Why would I want that out there? Yo, you're Charlamagne. You and Turks and Kegels with a thick woman, you just talk about Charlamagne. The man is filming Love and Hip Hop right now.

Come on, man. Don't do that to him, Charlamagne. It's going to be the next thing right now. What kind of woman are you looking for? Somebody. Well, it's hard. Don't start with this. Remember last time you asked that question?

Shut up. Don't even do that. It's hard dating, you know what I'm saying, now because it's like you don't know if the woman. See, Charlamagne's situation is different. Your situation is different. You both known your wives forever. That's a fact. So y'all really came from the mud together.

Now meeting a chick like, I love the star tenders. I love the girls in Starless, but I can't think that they can actually be one of my girlfriends. They don't know me. They're going to catch me throwing money at them. In fact, I've never been to Starless in none of them clubs either. I'm never going to your bar. I'm never giving it. You know you love the picture.

You love the picture. Graham? Lust. Lust is crazy. Which one do you like the most? You know, you just from the picture. You love the picture. The gram? Lust. Lust is crazy. Which one you like the most? Bernice?

She not in Starless no more. No. Oh, she not? Like six years. But they got new star attendants? Yeah. I didn't know. They got new ones, bro?

There's one named Nicole that's bad. There's one named Winnie that's bad. And they all cool people. They got a gram? Yeah. For what? Black men? I'm just looking to see. Put your phone down. Black men don't look.

You don't need to see, bro. Exactly. Black men ain't blind. Get your Bible, bro. Don't do that. Black men ain't blind. You know what? I was going to say,

Hitmaker. Hitmaker, Berg. We appreciate you for joining us, brother. Yo, I appreciate y'all having me, man. All right. What's her name? Nicole.

Hey! Hey, yo, chill, Charlotte, man. You done made her hot. You just made her hot. Get your Bible, bro. Go get your Bible, bro. I'm just looking. All right. It's The Breakfast hot. Get your Bible, bro. Go get your Bible, bro. I'm just looking. All right.

It's the Breakfast Club. It's Bird, Hitmaker. Yes, sir. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee. Rumor has it. On the Breakfast Club. So listen up. Yes, Stephen A. Smith and Markeith Morris started going back and forth on Twitter, and

it's over that butt slap from back in 2017. Right. Now, Stephen A. Smith was on The Breakfast Club, and this is what happened. Have any athletes ever tried to hold your commentary against you? All the time. They do it every day. I'm talking about, like, press you, press you, like, physically.

Yeah, there's a couple. Didn't you get smacked on the butt once? That was by Morris for the Washington Wizards. He just slapped me after I had won a game. And, you know, I thought nothing of it until a couple of days later. He said publicly, well, I just did that because that's all I could do. And I was like, well, wait a minute. I thought you was playing around.

That's what you were doing? I'm like, that's what you were doing? Like, you were serious? Like, you really? And I went on national TV. I said, let that happen again. I'm not going to lie. Somebody smacked me on my butt.

I don't know how to take that either. That actually happened to me, though. That happened. Remember when I was walking out the club and the guy smacked me on my ass and said, good job? Yeah, but you're not a, you know, it's different. He's an athlete. It's after a game, right? Yeah, but Stephen A. Smith ain't playing.

I know, but he didn't think it was a big deal at that time, you know, until he heard differently otherwise. So Keith Morris went on Twitter and says, Stephen A. Smith, stop being a tough guy behind cameras and mics. Have that same energy next time I see you like you had on The Breakfast Club. Sheesh.

Stephen A. Smith responded, ain't about being done, tough guy, bro. I simply pointed out how I thought you were playing around a couple of years ago and then you publicly stated

what your real intent was afterward to someone in the media. So I said, had I known, it wouldn't have gone down like that. Period. Don't smack me on my ass. Okay.

So, yeah. So there was some back and forth about that afterward. But yeah, I guess anything physical, you know, is like insulting. Now both of these guys are old. They ain't gonna be out there fighting. They would look so stupid out there fighting on the court. You said both of these guys are old. They are. They're older. Stephen A. Smith is 50 years old would look so stupid out there fighting on the court. You said both of these guys are old. They are. They're older. Stephen A. Smith is 50 years old.

They look crazy out there fighting on the court. All right. Now, Lil Baby is going to stop smoking cigarettes. That's good news. The reason why he's decided to stop smoking is because he got his new teeth. He got his veneers in. So he said he's determined. Today is the day I start smoking cigarettes.

And he said, plus, I got new teeth. Whatever the reason is. F the fact that it could give you cancer and kill you, but damn, you don't want to mess up them new teeth. Come on, little baby. You definitely don't want to mess up them new teeth, but whatever it takes. I'm happy.

I'm happy he stopped smoking, though. Shout out to little baby. All right, and Terrence Howard said he's quitting acting after Empire. He said he's done. He won't be pursuing any more on-camera roles, and that's that. He said, I'm done pretending.

I don't know what's going on. It sounds like he's having a lot of issues in his personal life. I would hate to see him not act anymore, though. He's in some great movies. He's light-skinned. He's like me. He's emotional. He overreacted. I'm sure he'll be back and say, you know what? It was a bad decision, a bad thought. He's just right now, like you said, he's going through it. Right.

Alright, now let's discuss Chance the Rapper. Now, he did an interview. He was on Big Boy and he talked about a lot of different things, including Cardi B and Nicki Minaj's beef. Here's what he had to say. A lot of that stuff is produced, like all the information, the way that they phrase it to us, the way that, you know, that they pit people against. And I think I don't want to speak for them at all, but I feel like to a certain extent, they got pushed into that, too. And I don't think that all of that was 100% their feelings. I mean, I don't know if it's manufactured.

I mean, I think those two ladies had a disagreement somehow, some way, something didn't connect and they just really don't like each other. Yeah, but I think that labels probably feel like they benefit off of it. They definitely benefit off of the beef, but I mean there's a lot of people. I mean, there's some people out there that you don't like eating. It's not manufactured. You just don't like

them and that's cool. We could be in the same. It's not on that level, though. You know what I'm saying? Like when I don't like you, I just ignore you and you don't exist. You're right. Me, too. All right. Now, also, he talks about being inspired to get married after a conversation that he had with Offset.

He was like, everybody doesn't know this, but like this thing between me and Cardi isn't fake. We actually just got married in my backyard like a couple of weeks ago and we didn't tell anybody. And this was before it got announced that he was married. This was before like everything that's happened through their relationship and he was like, this is my wife. This is like who I'm going to be with for the rest of my life. So like

just keep it real with me if you're going to do this. And I was like before you said all that stuff, I wanted to do it, but now I'm going to do it and I'm going to propose to my wife soon. I heard that. Yeah. So Seth just being 100% clear about it. Offset.

Yeah, definitely one of the big inspirations and me manning up. I mean, that's what it is. I mean, you want to get married in the comfortability of your own house, with your family around. I'm not mad at that. Yeah. And that's inspiring when somebody else you know and respect in the business and has done something that influenced him.

So there you have it. All right, well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your Rumor Report. All right, thank you, Ms. Yee. Now, when we come back, Charlamagne's giving somebody donkey of the day. Charlamagne, who you giving that donkey to? Yes, what does your Uncle Charla always tell you? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida, but Florida, you can breathe easy today.

The Bronx has stepped up to challenge the crown on this fine Friday the 13th. We need a young woman named Ava Pena to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with her. I don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Hiring

isn't easy, but there is one place you can go where hiring is simple and smart. That place is ZipRecruiter, where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates. Try it for free at ZipRecruiter.com slash breakfast. ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire. Let's don't be a donkey, because right now you want some real donkey stress. It's time for Donkey of the Day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey man, hit me with the hero.

Did she get donkey in the name, please, Delia? Absolutely. I have become donkey of the day. At the breakfast club, bitches. You're a donkey. Yes, Donkey of the Day for Friday, September 13th. Unlucky Friday the 13th goes to a woman named Ava Pena. Am I pronouncing that right?

Ava Pena. Now, Ava is from the Bronx. And what does your Uncle Shala always tell you about the Bronx? Okay, the craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. And Ava is no exception because Ava is a sergeant for the NYPD. Now, we all know some police officers can be crooked.

All cops aren't crooked, but all aren't here to protect and to serve either. Alright? Some cops abuse their power. Some cops think they are above the law. Well, Sergeant Ava Pena abused her power, people. Not only did she abuse her power, the hypocrisy is real because Ava did something that she would usually lock somebody else up for. Let's go to News 12 Westchester for the report, please.

NYPD sergeant suspended after going on an alleged shoplifting spree in Westchester. Now, police say instead of taking out her wallet to pay, Ava Pena stuffed about $350 worth of items into her purse. That happened at a Macy's in Yonkers. Authorities say she didn't get far though as she tried to leave the store. She was arrested. Pena now facing a petty larceny charge, was suspended without pay from her job as an NYPD sergeant. Now this is actually an indictment against the NYPD because Ava Pena clearly isn't making a lot of money. If she was, she wouldn't have to shoplift. And that's a travesty because public servants like teachers, cops, firefighters, they should be making top dollar.

And they don't. And that's a damn shame because it leads them to committing crimes like this. But I don't have any empathy for her the same way they don't have empathy for people from the hood who sometimes have to take criminal chances to provide for themselves and their families. Now, I don't understand why Ava just didn't rob some drug dealers. All right, pull over some guys who got drugs on them,

take their money and earn your $350, the good old-fashioned cop way. Have you never seen Training Day? Now, I don't know how long she's been on the force, but the starting salary for a NYPD officer is $42,500. After five and a half years, $85,000 plus. So I totally understand why you probably

needed to steal out of Macy's, but the law is the law. Now you got a petty larceny charge and desk appearance ticket all because you decided to steal some Tommy Hilfiger pants, a beaded guest shirt, and a lace guest dress. What do you think of that, Fit Yee? You wearing that down in Atlanta for Revolt?

You know what's interesting? Tommy Hilfiger is back. Really? Yes. When I was actually in France, they had huge Tommy Hilfiger stores and everything everywhere. So people are into it. I think Zendaya is a Tommy Hilfiger spokesperson. Really?

So... Well, excuse me. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not mad at that. Now, guests, I don't know if that's back. A beaded guest shirt and a lace guest dress? Yeah, I don't know if beads and all of that is popping right now.

Well, add her fit to the reason she's getting donkey of the day. All right, some donkey of the day's just sell themselves. Please give Ava Pena the sweet sounds of the Hamiltones. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw. Now, I do want to say, we don't know that she wasn't stealing from these drug dealers. That is true, but if you were stealing from the drug dealers,

you would have had $350 to be able to go buy out of Macy's. Yeah, but maybe she just likes doing it. So that would make her a kleptomaniac. Yeah. Okay. Could be. But maybe she's just addicted to it. Like, she's stealing from these drug dealers.

It's easy. Let me go to the store, steal a little something. I understand the feeling. I still steal magazines right now. Now, maybe you need to give yourself donkey of the day. A magazine. No, I haven't gotten caught yet. If I get caught and arrested, then yes, I'll definitely get myself a donkey today. Well, watch this guy.

All right. Now, coming up, my man Malcolm Gladwell will be here, okay? If you've ever read The Outliers, if you've ever read Blank, if you've ever read Tipping Point, if you've ever read David and Goliath, he's got a new book out called Talking to Strangers. And I promise you, this book is so necessary for the times that we live in, because none of us know how to communicate with each other. We'll be talking to Malcolm Gladwell when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club.

The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Oh, man. My Virgo brother. He was born on the same day, September 3rd, as well. Wait. Is there a connection? That is crazy. Yeah, I'm born on September 3rd. He was born on the same day, September 3rd as well.

Is there a connection? That is crazy. I'm born on September 3rd. He's born on September 3rd. Wax was born on September 3rd. Charlemagne's assistant was born on September 3rd. One of my best friends was born on September 3rd. Dr. Jessica Clements. Napoleon was born on September 3rd. Wow. Really? Malcolm Gladwell, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome.

Malcolm has a new book out, man. And some books are good reads, some books are necessary manuals for the times that we live in, and that's exactly what I think Talking to Strangers is, man, a manual for the times that we live in, what we should know about the people we don't know. I think this is your best work. Really?

I think so, first and foremost. But what is this book about? Well, it starts with the story of Sandra Bland, which is what inspired the book. And it ends with the story of Sandra Bland. And the middle is an attempt to figure out what happened. Because for some reason, I don't really have a good explanation why. Of all of those cases in that, I guess it was like a three-year run

where all those cases were in the news. That was the one that got me. You used Amanda Knox, you used Brock Turner. No, I'm talking about of all those police cases. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. From Michael Brown on, they were all horrifying in their own way, but that one, I could not get that one out of my head.

Yeah. Because it was so, I mean, it's the middle of the day in a college town in Texas, a young professional woman driving down the street, pulled over for no reason. And then it just completely unravels. Our first day there. Yeah, exactly. First day there. And the weird thing, of course, in that case is that we have the whole thing is videotaped.

So there's no dispute about, usually in those cases, there's a dispute. The officer says, well, you know, blah, blah, blah. The other person says, blah, blah, blah. This one is like, we know exactly what happened. And so I decided, and I got obsessed with that tape. And I decided, it's so weird to think that this completely trivial encounter could spiral out of control and end in Sandra Bland being dead three days later. That I decided it was sort of, I also realized that that encounter was somehow typical,

that an awful lot of the big, high-profile cases that we were obsessed with were all about the same thing, which is about strangers meeting each other and something going wrong and them misunderstanding each other. Miscommunication. That's where the book begins. You said that the death of Sandra Bland

is what happens when a society does not know how to talk to strangers. Expound on that a little bit. Well, if you... So a lot of what I'm focused on in the book is what are the ways in which we get other people wrong? What are the things that lead us astray when we're meeting someone for the first time? And then that encounter with the thing that becomes clear, particularly if you listen, the cop gives this deposition in Journey Investigation.

And he, it's totally weird deposition, but it becomes clear that he's terrified of her. Because he becomes convinced that she's dangerous. And he completely misreads what she is, is upset. But he completely misreads someone's

discomfort and anxiety and anger at being pulled over as threatening behavior. But doesn't everybody get upset when they get pulled over? Exactly. So wouldn't any cop feel like I think nobody's ever really that pleasant when they get pulled over. Especially for something that a lane

change or whatever it was that she got pulled over for. I felt like it was his ego because he didn't like the fact that she lit the cigarette, right? And he didn't like the fact that she wouldn't get out of the car because it felt like his ego wanted her to just bow down to whatever it was that he was telling her to do. And she was challenging him. Yeah. No, he very quickly gets in over his head.

But he gets it over his head, I think, because he makes a series of very rapid assumptions about her that are completely false. And that's what, it's that part of it. And also, secondarily, that he's been put in a position, like, if you go into that cop's history, you realize he was stopping everyone for everything. So this is not some random encounter for him. This is part of a practice, not just of him, but of police officers in general. There's a philosophy of policing that requires them to go out and stop anyone who looks even remotely suspicious on the off chance they might be doing something wrong. If you do that, you're going to get into trouble, right? You're going to be put police officers in situations where they're required to make very rapid assessments of people that are going to get into trouble, right? You're going to force, you're going to put police officers in situations where they're required to make

very rapid assessments of people that are going to be erroneous. And it's that kind of group of factors that interests me. And I think that shows up, like Charlamagne was saying, the book talks about Brock Turner and Sandusky and Amanda Knox and Bernie Madoff.

They're all versions of the same thing, which is people meet a stranger, and they just totally get them wrong. Right, you really liked Bernie Madoff. Oh, I loved it. That case is fascinating on so many levels because it's like super, super, super smart people or people who consider themselves really, really smart

were completely taken in by him, which I just find kind of hilarious. Like, there's a certain superiority among people on Wall Street that you think they're above all this kind of stuff, and the truth is, they're completely not. Is that the Fring's fallacy? Would that be considered?

Well, so, yeah, I have a chapter. Chapter six. Chapter six, which is, I start with an episode of Friends and point out that you can follow an episode of Friends with the sound off, because every single emotion that any character of Friends and point out that you can follow an episode of Friends with the sound off because every single emotion that any character of Friends has is displayed perfectly in their face. Right. And I had a psychologist who's an expert in facial expressions go through the episode.

And, you know, if Joey is angry, Joey's face looks angry. If Monica is like surprised, her jaw drops and her eyes grow wide. And we, if you watch things like that, you get the impression that that's the way the real world works. That you can reliably predict how someone's feeling from their expressions. In fact, that's not the way the real world works at all.

And this is a source of big trouble, particularly for police officers who have a whole series of things in their head about what guilt looks like, about what guilt looks like or what suspicion looks like or what nervousness looks like. If you avert your eyes, an incredible percentage of cops think that if the person they're talking to averts their eyes, it means that they are hiding something or they're guilty. That is not what it means.

On Friends, that's what it means. But in real life, people avert their eyes for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes, it was an incredible... Do you remember that show? Remember Cops? Yeah. Of course. There's a guy, there's a psychologist who does this hilarious study

where he looks at, like, four years of Cops episodes. And he... Because in Cops, you always know whether the person who's being interviewed is guilty. You find out whether they're guilty or innocent, right? Correct. So he looks and he compares the facial expressions of the guilty and the innocent people on cops. It's real world.

Camera's running. It's not in some lab. It's like... And what he finds is there's incredible differences in the way that guilty white people, black people, and Hispanic behave. And also incredible differences in the way that innocent white people, black people,

and Hispanics behave. It's just different cultural ways of managing a situation when you're talking to a police officer. Right. So you can't have one fixed notion in your head about what innocence looks like if you're out in the real world where people are different. At all. Even if I know I'm not doing anything wrong and a cop pulls up next to me or behind me, I get instantly a little nervous. Yeah. Even though I'm not breaking any law,

I'm not doing anything wrong, I'm not on my phone, my seatbelt's on, all my paperwork is right, and I'm like, oh my God, they're about to pull me over. See, and I'm the opposite. I don't get nervous at all. I get more aggressive because I know I did nothing wrong. So it's totally two different situations, you know? I agree with you, but isn't that kind of dangerous on both sides?

Because you can judge somebody off their demeanor, and a lot of times when you grow up in a certain environment, that is actually a survival tactic, because a lot of times you are correct about people. You even speak about in the book how cops can tell when somebody has a gun on them. Well, they think they can't. I don't know whether they're... There was one

cop who was really good at this back in the day, but he couldn't teach anyone how to do what he did. So, I mean, I think there are very limited, rare examples of people who are good at that. But basically, I think a lot of people in these professions are just way overconfident in their ability to read people. And we have to sort of deal with that fact, I think, if we're going to prevent these kind of cases in the future. All right, we got more with Malcolm Gladwell. When we come back, don't move.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good future. All right, we got more with Malcolm Gladwell. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Malcolm Gladwell. Charlamagne. Let's talk about the Kansas City experiment a little bit.

You talk about the fundamental misconceptions that police officers carry. It's not an individual problem. It's a system. It's a system. So this is something I've been, like, banging on for a while. And I thought of this, actually. This is a little tangent.

When Donald Sterling is forced out as the owner of the Clippers, and it's because he makes those comments to his girlfriend about how he doesn't want her posting pictures on Instagram. And Ramona Shelburne has this amazing podcast about the case. I listened to it. And I was struck by the fact that Sterling is someone who, over the course of his career, twice,

there were actions brought against him by the Department of Justice and by the... Because he was discriminating against black people in his housing developments, right? In his apartment buildings. The NBA doesn't do a thing. No one says a peep. Everyone's fine with it. Life goes on.

And then he makes these comments to his girlfriend and boom, the world blows up. And Matt Barnes, God bless him, makes the most interesting and intelligent point in the entire podcast. And he says, wait a minute, we knew about this guy for 25 years and now you're getting

upset? And it's this weird thing in society where the personal... If someone personally is racist, we go crazy. But if they are systematically doing something, we're, like, fine with it. Like, it is 100 times worse if you don't let black people rent apartments

in your building than if you say something racist to your girlfriend, just as like, it is a hundred times worse that there was voter suppression in Georgia than the governor of Virginia wore blackface. Like, who cares? I mean, are we really surprised that a middle class, a middle-aged white guy from Virginia

who was a frat boy in college at some point in his life was in blackface in the 70s? I mean, that does not surprise me, right? Like, we got upset about that but the fact that stacy abrams probably lost because of some really nasty that's something that like fades away after so there's this weird thing where stuff that's about systems just goes over our heads and And personal stuff gets us crazy. We do that every day with Donald Trump? We do that every day with Donald Trump. Every single day. We get obsessed with the...

So with cops, the real issue with Sandra Bland is... I mean, it is an issue that this guy is a racist. The larger question is that there is a philosophy of policing that says it is legitimate for police officers to go everywhere, even neighborhoods where there is no crime, and stop people just because they believe in the back of their head there is a tiny chance they may be doing something. That's not something that individual cops do on their own.

It is something they are taught to do. And that part, that's the outrage. Who cares whether when this guy goes home at night, he has a Confederate flag on his wall. The issue is that there's a system that is in place. And what I want to do with this book is kind of get our focus back on the systematic things. I agree with you. But when you take somebody who, when you have a system like that,

but then you take somebody who may be a racist or may be a bigot, doesn't it make them easier for them to, you know, exert that racism and take it from young people? It does. But I don't know. I always run up against this thing with racism, which is, so some percentage, significant percentage of people, I don't know what it is, no one does, but are probably on some level racist. I don't know what you is, no one does, but are probably on some level racist. I don't know what you do about that. I don't know how you get rid of them. I don't know how you change their minds. All you can do is you can change the system in which

they're operating so that their racism doesn't harm people as much. Let's talk about your experience with Bernie Madoff and how you had to sit down with him and what your thoughts were. I sat down with, not with Madoff, but with the guy who caught. Who caught Madoff.

Yeah, Harry Markopoulos. Yeah. Who is, you know, I think it can be said, a very weird dude. So he's the guy who, ten years before anyone else, figured out that Madoff was crook. He knew. He sort of... But the problem with this guy, he's this kind of...

He's a hedge fund guy from Boston. He's super smart, but he's completely paranoid. And the reason he doubts Madoff is he doubts everyone. But you don't... My point in that chapter is you actually don't want to be that guy.

You don't want to live your life thinking everyone is potentially dangerous or bad. It's like, I think this guy, he strikes me as the most deeply unhappy. But you don't want to be the opposite either. You don't want to be that guy that trusts and believes in everybody either. Why not?

Because that's what most people get got. That's what most people get scammed. That's what most people get taken advantage of, I think. I think you could use common sense. And I like to think that you trust people until they give you a reason not to. Some people look at it, I don't trust anybody until I know them better

and I vet them out. And it takes a long time to earn your trust. But I feel like, okay, what you show me is what I'll take it at face value until you prove to me otherwise. Yeah. I think I tend to err. I mean, you're right.

You don't want to be completely gullible there's some middle ground here but I really think that happiness lies on the I would rather be occasionally scammed and you know trusting

than be on the other side of the equation and be sort of paranoid what about can you get somebody based off how they treat other people well so this

actually this is an interesting question so So let's say you were, journalists face this question all the time. You're writing a profile of someone and you have a choice. You can either interview the subject of the profile for as long as you want, or you can never meet that person, but you get unlimited access to everyone in their life, all their friends, coworkers, which do you, if you want to write the most accurate picture of this person, but you get unlimited access to everyone in their life. All their friends, co-workers. If you want to write the most accurate picture of this person, which do you choose? I would say everybody else in their life. I think that's

a better shot at who they are. Right? Because you meet someone for an hour. This goes to my point in the book. It's really hard to get to know a stranger quickly. You meet someone for half an hour in a job interview, and they are putting on their best face. They're not being themselves.

But if you had unlimited access to everyone, all their former co-workers, old employers, family, they're going to give you a far more nuanced picture. Here's my last question. In Chapter 12, titled Sandra Bland, you said, we are inept when it comes to talking to strangers, and we think we can transform the stranger without cost to sacrifice into the familiar and the known, and we can't. Then you ask the question, what think we can transform the stranger without cost to sacrifice into the familiar and the known

and we can't, then you ask the question, what should we do? So what should we do when it comes to talking to strangers, Malcolm Gladwell? We should be, there is no first of all, there's no simple this is not a book that ends with this kind of perfect it ends in a pretty dark place.

But I think we have to be a lot more cautious in the judgments we make of others. And we need to be a lot more humble in our understanding of how good we are at reading people. So don't jump to the conclusion. You know, if you're a police officer and you're walking up to Sandra Bland's window and you think you're faced with this

behavior you can't make sense of, don't jump to a conclusion that she's dangerous and out to get you. Right. Slow down. Ask her questions. Be a nice person. I mean, there's no... This is simply a... The lesson of all this is that we're just... I don't know why

we're in such a hurry to pigeonhole people and describe them and try to identify their patterns and behaviors. Because I've got to get these retweets. I've got to get these likes. I've got to get these Instagram comments before everybody else. That's why. So I've got to jump to conclusions.

It's not healthy. Listen, man, this is a great book. I think this is the second most important book I read this year. Well, not second best. I important book I read this year. Oh, that is... Well, not second best, but like, you know. I read two important books this year. What was the other one? Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport.

Oh. Great read. Yeah. And this, Talking to Strangers, is a must read. So I think everybody should read it. Thank you so much. Do you think it's your best work? I think it's my angriest work.

Mm-hmm. I didn't get that. Oh. I got concerned. Yeah, yeah. I didn't get angry. Oh. I got concerned. Yeah, yeah. I didn't get angry. Well, that's what, I'm a very, you know, I'm a very mild Canadian. That's what anger looks like in a mild Canadian.

Got you. You can't read it the same way on him as someone else. Exactly. All right, well, the book just came out, so we just got our copies. Thank you so much, Malcolm Gladwell, Talking to Strangers. All right, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

It's about time. What's going on? Rumor report. Rumor report. This is The Rumor Report. Talk to them. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Yes, Dennis Rodman says that he thinks 10 to 20 percent of pro athletes are gay.

And the NBA is ready for an athlete to come out. So he said he doesn't think that people will be shocked by an athlete coming out and will be supportive, saying as long as he plays and performs, does it even matter? Yeah, nobody cares, bro. I don't mean nobody cares about your life. Nobody cares about your lifestyle. Well, no, people do care.

Let's be clear. You think so? In 2019? Yes, people are still getting beat up on the street, randomly killed, gay slurs. Just post something and say that you come out and see all the people that comment under your picture and say nasty, mean things.

So, yes, people do care. Yeah, but in the NBA, it's a different ballgame because these guys are millionaires. These guys can ball. If you can actually play ball, they're not going to care if you're gay in the NBA. I mean, look, in an ideal world, that would be great. In the world that we live in, I don't think that's the truth.

And let's be clear, Jason Collins, nobody knew his name until he came out. One of your former Brooklyn Nets, ye! Nobody knew who he was. He came out and it was love. He got to play another year or two. Alright, now Cardi B, she is leading the 2019 BET Hip Hop Awards. She has 10

nominations, so congratulations to her. That's a huge deal for Cardi B, she is leading the 2019 BET Hip Hop Award. She has 10 nominations. So congratulations to her. That's a huge deal for Cardi B. Drake has seven nominations. And Cardi B, by the way, she won four last year at the BET Hip Hop Award. So congratulations to her. I'm pretty sure she's going to win a lot this year as well. Christina Milian, she was talking about hacking into Nick Cannon's phone. You know what is crazy? When I used to work at Sirius

a long time ago, I remember this story because Nick Cannon told me about it. She hacked into his phone and that had a lot to do with them obviously breaking up because he was doing a lot of stuff. Why are they talking about that now though? They've been broken for a decade. She was on E! News digital series Just the Sip and she looked back at the time

when she did that. So I guess it's just something that happened to her. She thought things were going well. I remember he was telling me about this. He was like filming a movie or something. One of them was out of the country filming a movie and here's what she had to say. When I was dating Nick Cannon, I like the password somehow worked on the

first check and I was right and then next thing you know, I was reading for like a month. I was reading messages. I was stuck in Romania. I had time. So I was right. And then next thing you know, I was reading for like a month. I was reading messages. I was stuck in Romania. I had time. So I was like, I cannot bust him while I'm away. I need to bust him in person. So in the meantime, I'm going to get my intel, make sure that this is for real, for real.

And it was for real. So it was enough. Yeah, she was in Romania filming something and he didn't think it was a big deal. I remember him discussing it, but I'm sure he's going to address it as well. All right. Now, Kanye West, the new Yeezys. A lot of people are laughing at those. They Crocs. The Yeezy foam runners.

Yes, they are Crocs. They look like Crocs to me. You like them? No. Are you going to wear them? No. What if they're comfortable? Let's see, that's a different ballgame.

Now you pause. Now it's a different ballgame because I'm at that age where comfortability means more to me than how something looks. Did you get rid of those corns? I got one shaved off my left pinky toe, but it's starting to come back. But she told me that that was probably going to happen. When I got it shaved, it was months and months ago, so I just need another shave.

Okay, so you shave your toe. All right, so maybe those Yeezy Crocs might do the trick. Yeah, but they look stupid. All right, and Odette Beckham Jr., he is, as you all know, playing for the Browns now. And he talks about a situation where he said that Browns players were instructed by their former coach, Greg Williams, to injure him during a preseason game in 2017. So he's going to be playing the Jets. And right now, Williams still coaches his players to hit dirty in his current position

on the New York Jets, according to Odell Beckham Jr. Here's what he said. In preseason, nobody in the NFL is really out to do stuff like that. I had players on this team telling me that that's what he was telling them to do, take me out of the game in this preseason. You just know who he is. Well, that's whack. Yeah, that is whack.

The fact that you can have done that and then get back into the league afterwards. Yeah, I don't think that you truly love the sport if you want to see the best players in the league or any player in the league, you know, get hurt on purpose. You know what I mean? Like, that's whack. Right. And by the way, why would you do that as a player? It should be a code amongst players.

Like, no, I'm not going to do that. Because I don't want anybody to do that to me. Absolutely. Mess that man's livelihood up. He can't provide for his family. That's lame. Because it's already dangerous enough. Rob Gronkowski said he's probably had 20 concussions in his life from playing football. And he said he even had five

blackout moments. So imagine that. Also, I just want to make sure you guys know that Angela Rye is hosting a BET town hall on the mass student debt crisis and voter empowerment. And that's all having to do with this whole presidential candidacy. So that's going to be airing on Sunday at 915 p.m. on BET.

That's right. Y'all support my sister. I'm actually headed to go see my sister right now in D.C. Congressional Black Caucus is this weekend. That's right. I'm moderating a panel today for the Congressional Black Caucus. And the panel is brought to you by Fourth Movement. And it's could cannabis licensing be reparations? That is the question you by Fourth Movement. And it's could cannabis licensing be reparations? That is the question that they're asking. And Michael Eric Dyson and Kareem Webb, Marquise Dawson, Representative Karen Bass, Corey, Adria, Ron Holmes, they're on the panel.

So I'll be moderating that. So I'll see you all in D.C. in a couple hours. All right. Meanwhile, I'm in Atlanta for the Revolt Music Conference, showing that support. And the Envision Conference is also this weekend back in New York. And I have another surprise for you. We are giving you the chance to win one of ten trips to New York for Powerhouse NYC, complete with a round-trip airfare for two people.

You get two nights hotel accommodations. You get those sweet tickets. And, of course, you get the chance to meet the Breakfast Club. This all goes down at the Prudential Center October 26th. That features the Migos, Meek Mill, Lil Baby, A Boogie, DaBaby, David O, Megan Thee Stallion, Saweetie, Polo G, Lil TJ, and more. So make sure you just text today's keyword to 37911. That's how you enter for a chance to win.

And, of course, this is presented by our friends at AT&T. That's right. I got to say peace to Revolt. Y'all be cool, all right? It's the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, we got a shout-out to Malcolm Gladwell for joining us this morning.

Salute to Malcolm Gladwell, man. You have to get talking to strangers. It is a must-read. It is a book that is necessary for the times that we live in right now. Right. And also shout-out to Hitmaker, a.k.a. Youngberg, for stopping through. Please, Mano and Trick Trick, don't slap Hitmaker. He knows not what he do, man.

You try to clear it up for him. I know, but he knows not what he do. You know what I'm saying? Because by the time that message get back to Maino and get back to Trick Trick, they're going to be hitting our phones asking us what he said, and I'm going to tell them go watch the interview because— You try to clean it up. I try to—Hitmaker ain't had to do it.

He don't know no better. He don't know no better. Yeah, he can't help it. All right. Hey, salute to everybody in D.C. too. I'm going to be it up. I tried to. Hitmaker ain't had to do it. He don't know no better. He don't know no better. He can't help it. All right. Hey, salute to everybody in D.C. too. I'm going to be in D.C. I'm going to be at the Congressional Black Caucus 2019 this afternoon. I'll be in the Walter E. Washington Convention Center having a conversation,

moderating a conversation actually about could cannabis licensing be reparations you know the Dr. Michael Eric Dyson is on the panel my man Marquise Dawson is on the panel representative Karen Bass is on the panel my man Kareem Webb is on the panel uh Ron Holmes is on the panel and Corey Alegria is on the panel and they're going to be discussing could cannabis licensing be reparations which is something a lot of people have discussed. My man Killer Mike has the best take on it. If you ask me, I wish he was on the panel. He says that it should be reparations for the drug war,

but not for overall African Americans, you know. That should just be a check, but, you know. We'll be discussing that today. I'll be moderating the panel. All right, I'll be, today and tomorrow, I'll be in Vegas for the Mr. Olympia competition. Okay. You know, I've been working out

so I'm one of the contestants. No, I'm not. I'm just DJing. You're just out there watching men in Speedos. Shut up. You're out there watching oiled up men in Speedos.

But you know what, Envy? What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. So I ain't judging. I'll be out there. Shout out to a little bit less of this Saturday. I'll be out in Chicago.

All right? Yes, and y'all know I'm in Atlanta. It's the Revolt Music Conference judging. I'll be out there. Shout out to a little bit less of this Saturday. I'll be out in Chicago. All right? Yes, and y'all know I'm in Atlanta. It's the Revolt Music Conference, so I'll be out here for today just because we have a nice kickoff, which Diddy will be attending as well as the CEO of Revolt and all the executives from

AT&T. And then we have a meet and greet later today. I believe it's Remy Ma and Joe Button and Ebony K. Williams will be there. And in addition to that, I have my juices out here, my drink fresh juice. So if you want to sample that, have some drinks, I'll be at the gathering spot tonight out here in Atlanta. And then we also have the Envision conference this weekend. And that's going to be back in New York. So make sure you look at my Instagram for details on that.

But I'll be speaking at Envision. And I will also have my juices there for sampling drink fresh juice. When we come back, positive note, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.

It's time to get up out of here. Charlamagne, you got a positive note? Yes. My positive note comes from the good brother, Malcolm Gladwell, who we had on today, man. Malcolm Gladwell said in Outliers Practice isn't the thing you do once you're good It's the thing you do that makes you good Breakfast pub bitches

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