The Breakfast Club - IDKMYDE: Maggie Bozeman and Julia Wilder

Episode Date: February 11, 2024

In this episode of #IDKMYDE, join us as we uncover the unjust nine-year imprisonment of Maggie Bozeman and Julia Wilder, two courageous Black women who fought for voter rights in Alabama. Back in the ...day voter fraud looked a little different. Yet, it seems society has never been absent from the "trims to a win". But in the past, 'fighting for your freedom' usually meant waiting behind bars for it. These two female elders set an example. It's the case of "no good deed goes unpunished" but with voting. IG: @_idkmyde_ | @BdahtTV | @blackeffectSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:45 Well, today I introduce to you two women from Alabama that did nine years in jail unfairly, all for standing on business. I didn't know, maybe you didn't need it. I didn't know, maybe you didn't need it. I didn't know, maybe you didn't need it. I didn't know, I didn't know, I didn't know, maybe you didn't need me. I didn't know, maybe you didn't need me. I didn't know, I didn't know, I didn't know. 51-year-old Maggie Bozeman and 69-year-old Julia Wilder went to jail in Alabama January 12, 1982 for 1978 voter fraud. For perspective, white folk in the town had been hit with voter fraud in the past and were met with minimal punishments and or fines.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Nobody had ever been jailed. 51-year-old Maggie Bozeman got four years and 69-year-old Julia Wilder got the maximum, five years. And they could have pled guilty and got probation, but they took it to court because they said they had done nothing wrong. Like being black in Alabama wasn't offense enough. In 1978, there was an election in Pickens County, Alabama. Now, Julia Wilder was the president of the Pickens County Voters League
Starting point is 00:03:55 and Maggie Bozeman, who just so happens to be the cousin of one of my comedy partners, Chris Jones, set it off. And that's how I even came across these women. So I appreciate you, Chris. But Maggie Bozeman was president of the local NAACP chapter, and they were just urging elderly illiterate blacks to vote by absentee ballot. Maggie and Julia picked up the absentee ballot applications from the County Elections Commission, used central addresses for them, and had all 39 notarized by the same notary. It wasn't even really an issue until on election day when one of the absentee voters showed up at the polls adamant to vote. That led to an investigation because that lady was 79 year old Sophie Spann and she testified she knew nothing about no absentee ballots. She never signed one and that testimony was largely the reason the jury voted for
Starting point is 00:04:45 conviction. But she was sus. Like the sheriff bought her lunch right before she testified. For what? And she even testified that she would do whatever the sheriff wanted me to do, but he ain't told me to say nothing. Yeah, all right. It was 12 other folks whose ballots were filed by Ms. Bozeman and Ms. Wilder. They testified too, but their testimonies were a bunch of confusing stories and all over the place. They didneman and Ms. Wilder, they testified too, but their testimonies were a bunch of confusing stories and all over the place, they didn't really stick. The Sophie Spann testimony,
Starting point is 00:05:09 that's what did them in. Even though they had 15 character witness to vouch for them to the 12 white jurors, it was to no avail. They were painted as a couple women who went out and stole 39 votes. Listen, listen here, listen. If we really wanted to be vindictive, okay,
Starting point is 00:05:24 we could have got them vindictive, okay, we could have got them 39 counts of forgery, punishable by up to 10 years each. That's what the DA Pep Johnson said, who scratched all blacks from the jury. They spent 11 days in a state penitentiary where there were daily protests. The then governor scrambled to put together a work release program for them.
Starting point is 00:05:42 They got transferred to Tuskegee to finish out their term. They lived in a trailer house instead of jail. One juror, 33-year-old William Tate said, It may sound like five years to a little old lady, but if someone's found guilty, their age shouldn't make much no difference. A white deputy sheriff said, Listen, if they can get out there and march at them ages, they gonna do just fine in jail.
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