The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: 85 South Show Talk Reality TV, Chico Bean's Gambling, Politics, Tour + More

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jet Salarius, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. Our guys. From the 85 South Show. We got Chico Bean and Carlos Miller in the building. Morning everybody, it's Carlos Miller, Chico Bean. How you guys doing? How you brothers doing? How y'all feeling? Good, man. How you feeling this morning, DJ Envy? I'm good.
Starting point is 00:00:23 That's good, man. It doesn't look like they want to line you up. No, I ain't. Wait, why you scouting stuff already, man? I just wanted to check on my brother, make sure he good, man. The crazy part is I see him in Vegas, right? He pops out of Vegas, and I'm sitting there DJing. I'm like, oh, man, I know he going to light me up.
Starting point is 00:00:36 So I had to try to sneak out of it. He didn't light me up, thank God, though. Nah, nah, let him live. So do you remember Chico's name nowadays, though? God damn right. He better. My treatment didn't get a little darker. Yeah, that's why I asked, was he okay, man?
Starting point is 00:00:46 He got a little darker. Yeah, he got darker just in the face, though. He must have been wearing turtlenecks and turts. Well, you guys are going to be in Newark this week in the Prudential Center. Most definitely. Big business comedy tour. Yes, sir. What can they expect from an 85 South Show tour, Mike?
Starting point is 00:01:03 Big laughs, big performances, everything big, sir. What can they expect from an 85 South Show tour, man? Big laughs, big performances, everything big, man. Now, do y'all do a separate set, or is this the show that y'all do collectively? You know what? All these years we've been coming up here, for you to still have to ask that question lets us know that you do not support in the same way we needed to. How have you never been to a show?
Starting point is 00:01:23 I'm going to come in this weekend. Somebody told me y'all do it different, though. Somebody told me sometimes y'all gonna come this weekend somebody told me y'all do it different though somebody told me sometimes y'all do stand up and sometimes y'all do it collectively we ain't did stand up in like what about six about six years now even a three-head monster we tried to do it but the people crave all three of us at once yeah pause yeah they do they want to take it all in but she was making sweet love to a Caucasian man on this on the That was actually a Caucasian woman. Damn, what?
Starting point is 00:02:07 My Tubi subscription is, what? I'll be just watching random shows and then she just pop out. I'm like, look at Jess. I'm like, this must be the scene where she got pregnant in. No, no woman could get me pregnant. That was actually a stud. That was a white stud. I was gay.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Wait a minute. I'm sure you have much. You got a sex scene with a white stud? Yes. Hey, man. I need to call my management. I don't understand how I missed that. Are y'all not paying attention?
Starting point is 00:02:39 I don't see this. I ain't seen that movie. I saw I got a story to tell when she cut the white woman head off. That was great. But I was very much given in that scene, though. So did you cut the white stud head off after y'all had sex? No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Oh, it was two different movies? You got more than one? Man, this is ridiculous. That's a different series. Both of them are series. One is I Got a Story to Tell. My episode is episode five. And then on 10 series,
Starting point is 00:03:02 that's me, Colin Powell. There's a bunch of other people in it too. Oh, I'm watching that this weekend. She was naked. She said she in a movie with Colin Powell. Button naked. Time out. You in a movie with Colin Powell?
Starting point is 00:03:16 Yeah, y'all. I got to see that. Time out. I don't think she said that right. Not Colin Powell, Colin Powell. We know. She said Colin Powell. Do you know who Colin Powell is?
Starting point is 00:03:26 Ain't that Pinky? Yeah, exactly. No, you was not in a movie with Colin Powell. When did y'all shoot that? It's a series. We shot it over the pandemic. That might be his name. Let me Google Colin Powell.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Let me Google. Man, Google Colin Powell and watch what come up. I know which one's going to come up, but it might be an actor named Colin Powell, too. I thought it was Clifton Powell. That's what she's talking about. That's what she's talking about. She said she was in a movie with Colin Powell. Well, who was Colin?
Starting point is 00:03:54 Listen, man. General Colin Powell. Wasn't he the Surgeon General or Attorney General or something? All right, well, Clifton. Yeah, my bad. That's why I said Pinky. My bad. Now, what's the difference between the big business tour
Starting point is 00:04:06 and the three headed monster tour though? Hey man, the big business tour is the one that let you know that, hey, we ain't just figuring it out no more. This is, we really in our stride, we really know exactly what we doing. We take, like, we got sets, we taking the whole presentation to another level.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Added the screens, different sounds, different, oh, everything, bro. So we in even more elements to the 85 South Show pretty much yeah and it's bigger it's just showing you know like you said the elevation of what it is that we do because you know we are the first to do it in that capacity as far as you know black entertainment especially you know I mean we were the first to really get on stage together and show what that dynamic looked like. So now it's to a point where we're developing it
Starting point is 00:04:48 to where you're setting up an example for this to be a valuable option in entertainment for especially black comedians to be able to share that spotlight and be able to get the money together. So it's definitely big business. It's like the evolution of the kings of comedy. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:05:03 They used to do individual, but imagine if they came out there. Yeah, that was a whole nother movie. It's a whole not of the Kings of Comedy. Absolutely. They used to do individual, but imagine if they came out there and collected it. Yeah, that was a whole nother movie. It's a whole nother movie. You know what I mean? We could have got Colin Powell in that.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Stupid. Yo. Wow. I got a random question as a fan of 85 South Shore, right? When y'all got guests on, do you consider those interviews or do y'all just feel
Starting point is 00:05:20 like it's a kickback? Or just conversations? Was that a tough question? I was just waiting. I was just waiting. Nah, man, it's kind of just like having a guest co-host. We don't really do too many interview type situations. I mean, of course, we like to bring people on that we fans of, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:40 but we don't really just sit there and try to keep up with the topics of the week or the drama or nothing like that. We just have some nice company around so they can kick it with us. But they open up on that couch, though. They get comfortable. Yeah, that's the point. That's the point. Giving people an environment that is different than what they're used to.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Audiences are constantly doing interviews that they send their PR team in with questions you can't ask and things you can't say. You know what I mean? We don't really have that type of dynamic. So people get to come in and really, you know, and we ask a different line of questioning, too, because we're interested in different things when we sit down with these people, you know, because a lot of them we are fans of. So we're not asking questions based on the perspective of, you know, an interviewer.
Starting point is 00:06:22 We're really coming from a fan perspective just with a, just with a structured way that we talk to people. So I think that it allows people to feel more comfortable when they having a conversation with somebody that they feel like you sitting on the porch or you at the barbershop with. You know what I mean? And you can tell these fans of y'all because they got to drive all the way to y'all studio.
Starting point is 00:06:38 That's about two hours outside of Atlanta. No, it's not. Why you on here lying, Charlamagne? Why you trying to- Man, we just got here, man. It's just an hour. We just, not an hour. How long on here lying, Charlamagne? Why you trying to... Man, we just got here, man. It's just an hour. We just not an hour. How long?
Starting point is 00:06:47 Everywhere is an hour away in Atlanta. What you mean? In Atlanta, yes, with the track. Everybody say 30 minutes, but it's at least 45. Everywhere is an hour away. All I'm saying is they got to really... They fuck with y'all to come out there. I tell you who...
Starting point is 00:06:59 Don't. You, nigga. You ain't never been. I've been there. Yes, I have. You ain't never sat down with us, though. You just sat down and did an interview. Y'all ain't never invite me, but I've been to the studio.
Starting point is 00:07:06 What you mean we ain't never invite you? We invited you and Envy. I know why Envy couldn't come, but you ain't got no excuse. Yeah, we knew Envy wasn't coming. Why Envy couldn't come? Because he don't hang out with people like us. He don't even hang out with you. I don't.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I don't. I've seen one picture of y'all outside of work. They are really not partners, and they keep this relationship real. You got to watch. Y'all outside of work. I'm like, they are really not partners. And they keep this relationship real. You got to watch. Y'all don't get to see it. We be in the back room. These niggas don't even talk to each other when the camera's off.
Starting point is 00:07:32 They just sit there and just look straight. I'm like, man, that is true. It's like we've been together for 14 years. We've been together. I'm glad you're finally doing it. Y'all have been together. Y'all definitely been together. I bet y'all periods
Starting point is 00:07:47 just synced up and everything. They ain't friends, but they'll sleep in a bunk bed together. Your best partner is the one you ain't gotta make conversation with. You can just sit around in silence and it'd be cool. But we know what each other's thinking. We laugh at the same jokes.
Starting point is 00:08:02 That's work related. And you know we really neighbors. For real? In the same neighborhood. Like, see each other's family at the grocery store. Who lived there first? Was that the same time? Yeah, I moved there.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Did anybody get you the house? That's what I'm asking. Don't start. He really live there. That's a good question. No. Oh, all right. And oh.
Starting point is 00:08:25 All right. I oh. All right. I'm just making sure. She gonna always come up with star shit. No, I ain't starred nothing. That was him. Charlamagne, I know you get money now because you look good. You know what I mean? You taking care of yourself.
Starting point is 00:08:36 You starting to look like a Cain Corso in the face. I saw a picture. Jess, I saw a picture of Charlamagne. I was like, man, he look like a Cain Corso, man. You see, he ain't smiling no more. Yeah, you see. He do look like, look at his face. He look like a Cain Corso.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I was like, boy, you better not run up to Charlemagne crib. He going to bite you. Oh, you stupid. He got that paper, bro. You remember when it used to be camouflage? Yeah, exactly. He got all them old pictures deleted. Look like a Cain Corso now, man. He got all the old pictures deleted. He got all them old pictures deleted up there. Looked like a Cain Corso now, man.
Starting point is 00:09:05 He got all the old pictures deleted. He got all his old pictures deleted. Man, saying somebody look like a Cain Corso is terrible. I'm telling you, man. Put the pictures up side by side. Now, did y'all hear Soulja Boy call B. Simone a Charlamagne face? What? That's her saying B. Simone was handsome.
Starting point is 00:09:22 That was just his way of saying it. No. They got into an argument. He said Charlam, now I said that's the most disrespectful. He was saying she bald headed. So he said Michael Jordan face, Sean's main to God face. I'm going to tell Big Soul right now, you can't be talking about my little brother B. Simone. That's my little brother.
Starting point is 00:09:38 She always been my little brother. I understand your outrage, but raise up off my little brother, man. Yeah. I mean, you see, we got just my brother. You already know. We discussed that the last time. What the hell is going on? You know what I'm saying? The last time you was here, you said I was your uncle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I mean, my brother, uncle, we just, you know, whatever it is we need to be to make sure that we stay in pocket. You know what I mean? How you doing over there? You see, you got the white room. I'm trying to act like you care now. I didn't know y'all liked each other until the interview came out. She said I didn't like her. That's what she said. Y'all liked each other until the interview came out. She said I didn't like her. That's what she said. Y'all really thought that for real?
Starting point is 00:10:07 What? That y'all didn't like each other? No. I mean, like, romantically. I didn't know they had chemistry. I was going to say, no, I've always loved Chico. For real? Oh, I forgot about all that.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Damn. Yeah. All right, don't be a clown with it now. Thank you very much. Yes, you are. Yeah. What? I'm doing good, though.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I'm expected to have a baby within like two weeks. Oh, the baby coming in two weeks? Yes. Within two weeks. Yeah, that nigga must be in the other room. They talk about me. All this extra shit. Say something about me.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Man, you know, one thing I like about y'all, y'all don't got to do nothing that y'all don't want to do. Absolutely. So if you see Carlos, Chico, or DC doing something, it's because they want to do it. So, Los, why are you doing college here? Why am I doing college here? There's got to be a reason behind it. Just for a little razzle-dazzle. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Just to shake it up a little bit. Sometimes I just wake up and I just be doing shit. Take advantage of this whole entertainment situation, bro. Ain't no telling what you might see me on. You wake up, you're going to see me on one of them survival type shows, like, where they get voted off the island. Oh, yeah, survival. Ain't no telling. I get all kind of calls
Starting point is 00:11:12 through my phone, bro. Sometimes I say no most of the time, but I'm gonna start saying yeah to some of this. Did you see the fight on college, too? Which fight? I know you wasn't there, but did you see the fight with Jocelyn and Amber Rose? Yeah. Is that a concern that you might have to fight somebody on there? No, absolutely
Starting point is 00:11:28 not. I'm a great fighter. That's why nobody ever tried me. You think they just let me walk around saying whatever I want to say? I think nobody ever questioned it. I'm a great fighter. I seen a clip with you, Nick Young, and Saucy Santana. How was it trying to keep them from
Starting point is 00:11:44 fighting? Well, you know, Saucy Santana is a whole handful by himself. Firecracker, yeah. He got a lot going on. It's like a whole production when he's involved. Shout out to my partner, Saucy. But he cool as hell, man. He's definitely not the person that I thought he was going into the show.
Starting point is 00:12:02 But then after being around him, and you kind of get to know these people, you're like, okay, it's a method to your madness. So he's great, he's got a great marketing plot and all that. Somebody gonna play with Saucey and get their ass beat. And that's what's gonna be hilarious. That's what's gonna be hilarious, cause they only get to see like-
Starting point is 00:12:20 That sound crazy the way you say it. Somebody gonna play with Saucey and get their ass beat. Not on purpose. You see how that conversation always trail off to something else? But Salsa gonna end up whooping the hell out of somebody. I can tell. It looked like they wanted to jump you when you said homelessness wasn't your problem. It's still not my problem.
Starting point is 00:12:41 I understood what you were saying. I got it. Yeah. I don't understand why that was so controversial. And then you see now, they're passing all these laws. They want to kick the homeless people off the street. Criminalize them. You can go to jail.
Starting point is 00:12:53 They're criminalizing it. So it's like, man. What you say about homeless people? The professor said that homelessness was a problem of everyone. And I was like, I just don't feel like that. I don't think that that's my problem because the powers that be and the people who make the real decisions, they can eradicate that in less than 24 hours if they want to.
Starting point is 00:13:11 So I don't feel like they try to play on your sympathy and your good morals and all that to try to make you feel guilty about somebody else's situation. I mean, it's terrible, but I don't feel like it's a problem that's individual amongst the citizens. How can Carlos Miller or any of us as individuals correct the homelessness problem in America? Don't be homeless. Or let them come live with you.
Starting point is 00:13:35 We should all adopt one homeless person. I don't know. But not only that, you think about all the billions of dollars they send overseas, right? Right. I mean, they can miss one payment and eradicate homelessness. Yes, for real. I mean, this is New York City. It used to be a problem.
Starting point is 00:13:49 You used to see homeless people everywhere. Now you don't see them. No, that ain't true, Neil. Number one place for homelessness in America. But I'm saying it's not like it used to be. You used to have to step over people. Now you can go blocks without seeing a homeless person. You still do.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I mean, depending on what block you're on. You know what I'm saying? If it ain't a homeless person, you're definitely stepping over a rat. I don't know why they wait until 2026 to put the trash cans in. That's backwards. Like, yeah, we're going to fix the rat problem in two years. We're going to let them run it up for two more years. Then we're going to get the trash cans in.
Starting point is 00:14:16 So this is a unique city. I love New York City. But, like, we were just talking on the way over here about how the world just ran from this island, from right here. You know, this is where the world is ran from this island from right here you know this is where the world is ran from all the decisions that are made here in new york city affect the world so really you believe that yes but without question without question like you think about all of the businesses and all of the everything is centralized right here you know even if you look at media you look at what you guys have done you guys have shaped the culture from right here in this city and i think it's just the essence of this city that makes it,
Starting point is 00:14:45 you know, so grandiose in regards to, you know, the power that is, you know, the power structure that New York has, you know, I'm from Washington,
Starting point is 00:14:52 DC, I'm from the nation's capital, but it's more, you know, decisions made in New York city than it even is in, in Washington, DC. If you ask me,
Starting point is 00:14:59 that makes sense. Are y'all big into politics? No, not really. No, you know, I mean, that's the thing that I learned about being on this show, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You ask a black man his opinion, and it don't necessarily line up with everybody else's. They're going to try to make you look crazy. Yeah, and like I said, I'm from the home of politics. I'm from Washington, D.C., so I have a different vantage point into it. I know that a lot of the things that people want done, you know what I'm saying, from wherever you're from,
Starting point is 00:15:23 you're sending them to my city to get it done. And I've seen them walk past us in the conditions that you want fixed in your community. So I see that it's not a care. And unfortunately for black people, when it comes to politics, we're the only ones that are expected to share. You know, we're the only ones when it comes to getting something done for us. It's like, well, we got to be the president for the whole country. And we got to do this and we got to do that to make sure that everybody's okay like it's it's so hard for us to get litigation and things passed that just benefits us i don't think that you know we we really are at a
Starting point is 00:15:54 disadvantage when it comes to political you know the political structure in america so it's hard to identify as a black man that's what triggered me too what's that i'm not just sitting here listening you say that like as a black man, you can't sit here and try to blame that on me. Like the America's problem. I ain't do nothing. I ain't do nothing with that. I ain't got nothing to do with me.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah. It's, it's difficult to find a, you know, cause you know, as black people, we've been in a committed relationship with the democratic party for, for years.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And I think that a lot of people don't understand locally. That's what creates that, that connection is our local politicians that spread the word if you will like I'm from DC Marion Barry is the president to me will always be but what he did locally is what made us for sure say the Democratic Party is the best party to go with because of the things that he did locally so that's why I always advise people to vote locally because the local government is what's going to affect your life day to day. It's not going to be the president. It's not going to be, you know, the senators and all of that.
Starting point is 00:16:52 They make the big decisions. But the day to day things that go on in your community, that's what's going to shape the way that you live. So make sure that you pay attention to your local government, your sheriffs and your, you know, police chiefs and all of that. That's what you need to vote for. My daddy was in rehab with Mary and Barry. my daddy was in rehab with mary and barry your daddy was in rehab with marion he told me this story for the first time like a week and a half ago man that was lit i guarantee it was lit
Starting point is 00:17:16 they said all the way to south carolina in a facility he said they used to he said he used to stand uh they used to stand at the bus stop and he just would tell them about all the stuff that was going on in politics in D.C. He just said it so casually. That goes to show you how real of a nigga Marion Barry was. He went to South Carolina and caught the bus. That's different. That's a different type of politician. That's the type of
Starting point is 00:17:38 politician we need. Somebody like that. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know. I just think that for somebody like Charlemagne who was heavily involved in politics, I got a question for you like what do you think the plan should be in this coming election for us to get something done for us i think that you should uh well i'm gonna tell you what i'm voting for i'm voting to protect democracy you know me personally i am i'm voting to preserve democracy but i mean i do i had i'm going to say I had no intention of voting because I was going to vote in November. I just wasn't going to tell nobody who I was voting for.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And I'm still not telling nobody. You're turning into a white man. I'm still not telling nobody to vote for a certain individual. I'm just telling people to vote for their issues. Fine, fine. Look at both candidates. Look at the issues that you like, the agenda that they got, and cast your vote based on the issues. I mean, but that's the thing. What issues
Starting point is 00:18:27 are specifically directed towards black people in America? I don't think there's anything specifically directed towards black people in America. And it should be. Yeah, but there's things that they, you know, one of the candidates is doing, Kamala Harris, I believe, that, you know, could impact us. You know, when you talk about
Starting point is 00:18:43 the black maternal health rate, death rate in this country, you know, she's a leader. When you talk about the black maternal death rate in this country, she's a leader on that. She's a leader on mental health advocacy. She's a leader for small businesses, HBCUs. Those are things that I know directly impact us. Entrepreneurship, economic empowerment. Yeah, but these are issues that have been
Starting point is 00:18:59 on the board for years. And for us to still have these same issues lets you know that none of this stuff has been rectified. So at what point do we start to see the results other than the promises? We get promised a whole bunch of stuff during the election cycle every four years. It's like the same movie come on. You get all these different
Starting point is 00:19:15 promises, all these different, you know, we're going to do this, we're going to do this, we're going to do that, we're going to do this, and then for the next four years it's just hurry up and wait. You know what I'm saying? I'm glad you said it so I don't got to catch the backlash. And then I guess. Are you speaking the truth? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:29 The older I get, you know, having actual relationships with people and being able to reach out to them personally, to me that goes a long way. Because you can really, like you said, you can really be in the air. Like Mary and Barry was down there talking to the people. So you know exactly what's going on with the people. To be able to make those kind of connections, I think that's priceless for our community.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I can agree. Personally. To a certain extent. What did y'all think when Trump got shot in the air? He didn't get shot. He didn't get shot. Stop saying that. You know he didn't get shot. Why you don't think he got shot? You don't get shot and be outside talking shit the same day.
Starting point is 00:20:07 He not 50. Yeah, he didn't get shot. He did not get shot. He said it was the glass. He didn't get shot. He said it was the glass. Either way, I mean, coming from somebody who done been shot at, there ain't no such, there ain't no difference.
Starting point is 00:20:19 You know what I mean? There ain't no difference. I don't know what y'all talking about. You know what I mean? All that, he ain't get shit. I don't know about y'all, but I ain't never seen no buddy be like, wait, hold up. Wait a minute. That one ain't mine.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah, go ahead. Nah, it don't work like that. But I will say this about that situation, though. In my opinion, like I said, with my understanding of politics, that was the first time that he ever looked presidential to me. Really? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Because to me, it was impossible to see him as presidential because he'd been a celebrity our whole life. I watched this nigga in Home Alone. Like this is, he was always the apprentice. So you saw a celebrity, but that was the first time that I think in his, you know, political career that he actually looked presidential. It's kind of like what happened with Ronald Reagan. When Ronald Reagan got a, you know, the attempted assassination that if you look back on that history, that shows that that was the first time that he felt like him and the American people connected in a way that he did. Because he was a celebrity before he became the president. So once that happened, it connected him and bonded him with the American people. And I think that's what stretched him out to where we were able to see.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Because I think the world that we live in now, the world that we're adults in, is because of Ronald Reagan. And if Trump wins this next election, the world that our children will live in will be because of Donald Trump. Absolutely. You know, what you just said made me think of something. That doesn't show you the importance of this election coming up, though. When you see one president get an assassination attempt and then the other candidates say, you know what, I'm going to step out because it's so serious. I don't even want to give us a chance. I don't think that's the reason why he stepped out Joe Joe Biden was mumble rapping Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:21:50 was I'm talking about you ask him a question he was yeah we're gonna begin in I heard that already Joe you're not you're not gonna get me with that one that's thug right there. I think that should be an age limit, though. That should definitely be an age limit because like me and Los was talking the other day and he was like,
Starting point is 00:22:15 man, there's always going to be a bunch of old white men so when are we going to stop letting them be the ones that make the conscious decisions for us? Come on, that's a little different. It's very different. Yes. You're going to stop campaigning at work,
Starting point is 00:22:29 Charlamagne. I'm not. I'm trying. There's got to be some kind of law against it. I really don't want to endorse nobody. You can't be on here telling people who to vote for. I'm not. I feel like I made that mistake in 2020.
Starting point is 00:22:38 We know that's your home, girl. That's the home. We know you went over to the after party and all. We saw the pictures. We follow you on the ground. I ain't never saw the pictures. We follow you on the gram. I ain't never post no pictures. She's somewhere right now like, look at my King Corso. Look at my King Corso.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Look at him just protecting me. Look at my King Corso. Remember how Trouble's like, look at my black people. That's how she's going to be like, we got my King Corso on stage. Shalabay the God. I'm really trying not to endorse nobody. black people that's that's how she gonna be like we got my cane corso on stage charlotte bay the god oh i'm really trying not to endorse nobody she gave us a shout out yeah she definitely came when we did the bt award she came and talked to us so there is a level there is a level of connection that that is there that we can you know utilize as black people from just the optics
Starting point is 00:23:21 because black women carry so much of the burden when it comes to our communities for various reasons. You know what I mean? You know, a lot of factors play into that. But the black woman is very, very pivotal in our community. So I think that, you know, having that connection and being able to galvanize black women, if black women are with it, then, you know, everybody going to be with it.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Man, think about your daughter, right, Chico? Think about the confidence you already instilling in her as a woman but then she got people she can look to like that like imagine what that do for a confidence oh yeah well she already got all her confidence yeah I don't know where you know she she she different she all the way different but I mean that is you know optic wise that's something that i never thought i never thought we would see obama in our lifetime so to see a black woman would be amazing but you know i would just hope that you know the understanding you know because you look at the record and you know what what people criticize her on in regards to what her time was as a uh a prosecutor and
Starting point is 00:24:21 everything you know but i think people need to understand that everybody got a job to do. So if that was her job, she was doing her job. And if she locked a lot of people up, that means she did her job well. So now it's time to, you know, rectify that. And I think that's something that she should speak to to kind of make black men who might have an issue with the fact that that's her record, make us feel a little bit better about the fact that that's not necessarily what she was doing because that was her sentiment, but she was doing her job and now that she could potentially be the president, she's going to do a job that
Starting point is 00:24:49 is going to be more beneficial to those same people that she might have been a detriment to back in the day. Do she want to win? Does she want to be the president? Yeah, absolutely. It seems like that just came out of nowhere. You just go to your regular job one day and they're like, hey, guess what we got for you?
Starting point is 00:25:06 She ran in 2020. Yeah, she ran in 2020. She didn't buy the ticket from them, but I think she wants to be. You think so? She definitely want to be. Chico, how much you had lost in Vegas when your daughter made you do the walk of shame? Man, come on, Slim. I don't want to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:25:19 He's not going to talk about it. Why you keep trying to put me? We go from politics straight to that? You trying to get the IRS in my business man too much man I have a limit I have a limit to where you know my own money but the messed up part was
Starting point is 00:25:34 I lost all my winnings that's the thing about gambling man I say gambling don't get the respect it deserve in the hierarchy of addiction because you sit there and you know that if all they take is one of these motherfuckers they hit and i'll be right back up and then next thing you know you dig in your pocket to get some more money out and you got
Starting point is 00:25:54 a coupon it seemed like nobody hit though like i seen i think drake hit for like some crazy eight million the other day and i'm like that just don't happen i mean yeah i don't know nothing about that ain't no way in the world i ever gambleled that much money. I don't care how much money I have, but just the feeling of losing was, was so terrible. And my daughter really, you know, her perspective was, you know, we going to make it fun, but you can't do that, daddy. And, and I'm just glad I'm in a position where I listened to my child in that regard. Like I always say, you know, I think that a lot of parents don't give the credence to their children
Starting point is 00:26:26 to understand that you think you know what they know, but they are very, very knowledgeable in a lot of ways that you don't give credit for. And I think that that's something that our parents didn't do.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I joke about that all the time. Like our parents felt like giving us a better life was just buying all of the shit that they didn't get when they was little and thinking that that provides a better life
Starting point is 00:26:44 than we had. But the reality is... Tell me you've been gambling again. Huh? I was just saying if you was going to tell the world and all of the shit that they didn't get when they was little and thinking that that provides a better life than we had. Tell me you've been gambling again. Huh? I was just saying if you was going to tell the world you've been gambling again. Why you snitching, bro? Because you're going to sit here and give them this long speech. Why you snitching? I didn't say nothing about being changed.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Yes, I went back. All that you did to gambling, you went back? I definitely went back, and I won this time. That's why I ain't say nothing. Damn, Lord. He just said people downplay it as an addiction. It's an addiction. Yeah, it's an addiction, and I have an affliction.
Starting point is 00:27:11 You know what I mean? What's up? You're not going to do this on the breakfast club. Not when I'm here. Yeah, I had enough. But I won this time, and like I said, I got a limit. I was like Big Meat. You don't ever bring it all with you,'m i'm not as bad as i was that day
Starting point is 00:27:25 that day i was sick though oh my god you say what i'm scared of gamblers no you're not especially the gamblers from the hood because it's like i know people that you know that i would never do that used to be their hustle like how some people got themselves crack they're gonna i can't do the street gambling now fly fly is a legend on the dice little baby and four two do them the best gamblers in the world yeah don't just don't gamble with them you're not ready for that no you gotta don't gamble with these you gotta put fly in there i was about to say you gotta throw fly in there fly monster on them dice but i never gambled in the hood like just because i saw uh man that's
Starting point is 00:27:59 some of the worst violence i've ever saw yeah you know what i mean so i i'm good with that but vegas you know that's control. It's a little different when you're at the casino. But the streets, nah, I couldn't do the streets. The streets is a little different. But Charlemagne, you gamble. You gamble all the time. When you went in there and sat under that machine and let them peel your skin off and put a whole
Starting point is 00:28:18 another layer of skin on, you could have died. That was a gamble with your life, bro. They refurbished my boy like a leather boot. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? When you got in there and refurbished yourself, man, you could have passed away.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Nobody know what you went through. You gambled with your life to look like that cane corso with the smooth skin. I might not even be me right now. I might be dead. The homie might be dead. The OU definitely is dead. The OU is definitely dead all the way. They said 4-2-Duck and Lil Baby won't even gamble.
Starting point is 00:28:45 4-2-Duck was up here two weeks ago. He said him and Baby don't even gamble against each other. I don't blame them. He said they only hit up other people. Yeah. Yeah. They had a life-changing type gamble. Yeah. But just go ahead and let you know I lost $6,400. That's how much I lost.
Starting point is 00:29:01 $6,400? $6,400 of their money. You know what I mean? That's how much I won, and then I gave it all back. Gave it all back. Do y'all roast each other? The same way Doug and Baby won't play dice against each other, do y'all not roast each other? You just heard this nigga snitch on me. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:16 You was just talking. That's how we do it. There's no filter. Like, we really brothers. We partners. So there is no, you know what I mean? We keep each other in check that way. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:28 There is no situation that can happen where if we're going to laugh at each other first, the world not going to be able to make us feel bad about some shit. We're going to discuss it and laugh and joke with each other first. And by the time the world gets to it, we already got past it. You know what I mean? If you ever around some comedians and they don't say nothing they don't care about you So yeah, I can never go too far with each other You know I mean cuz there's a level of respect that is this in place if
Starting point is 00:29:53 But then there's no situation that we can go through in life that is off the table because you know these you gotta have You know therapy man. That's really what it is Your brothers are your therapist your everyday therapist the ones you don't have to pay So you you really missing out if you don't utilize that. You know what I mean? If you and Charlemagne live in the same community and y'all going through something, you don't walk across the street and holler at your boy.
Starting point is 00:30:12 No, they don't associate outside of work, bro. Yes, we do. He's not going over. He don't know nothing about Charlemagne's house, bro. Charlemagne ain't been over his house. They don't eat dinner. I don't really go to nobody's house. Oh, now he don't go to nobody's house. Now he should go. I eat dinner. I don't really go to nobody's house. Now he don't go to nobody's house.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I really don't. I don't go to nobody's house. Exactly. I got six kids, so I'm home. We know how many kids you got. You post them every day. I got six kids. Jeez.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I got six kids. Lacey, Casey, Stacey, Bracey. Man, come on, man. Amazing. Yeah, you got them C's on that boy for sure. Know too much about y'all, man. Son is a great athlete and all this. What about the Covenant House, Lowe's?
Starting point is 00:30:51 How did that change you, your visit to the Covenant House? Bro, I never been around, like, homeless teenagers, man. I didn't know that it was. You know, when you think homeless, you think of, like, adults who, like, had a whole life and, like, went through like fell on hard time but then you go and you see like teenage mothers and fathers and then you got like high school students who's still getting up every day going to high school which could totally be a struggle because kids are cruel and you got uh future comedians in there roasting everybody not knowing what people's situation is so it's like that just hit me in a different way to be like it's
Starting point is 00:31:27 not just grown people involved this people still trying to have a life so I had to make sure that I went down there off camera and kicked it and talk to them people and send some some gifts and some you know some resources and just try to use my platform to try to amplify that part so and probably still reinforce you american shit it definitely ain't yeah man it definitely ain't like i was saying bro it's like it's a real problem yeah and then sit here and like come up with a tv solution to a real problem it just aggravated the hell out of me so i just had to make sure i did something on my own and that was dope right because growing up still working on that i've been calling a lot of people
Starting point is 00:32:09 trying to get some resources behind it like been talking to some of the the executives over there bt to be like hey if we can go over there and shoot something there we can definitely put them on the list or you know what i mean keep them in the rotation or you know what i mean there's a lot of places like that i grew up like grew up in dc it's You know what I mean? There's a lot of places like that. I grew up in D.C. It's a place called Sasha Bruce that a lot of the, you know, homeless kids lived at, and we would go volunteer. And, you know, this was when I was still in school. So just sitting in that dynamic made us have a greater appreciation
Starting point is 00:32:38 for what we did have. You know, even though we was poor and broke, we still had mothers and, you know what I mean and a place to call our own. And just seeing kids have to try to figure out that dynamic, even back then, was a problem. But now you look at what they're up against, man. They're up against everybody's highlight reel. We didn't have to compete with that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:57 With the internet now, I went back to my college and talked to the kids in my program, at the mass communications program, and just hearing them say, man, I feel like I ain't doing enough. I feel like I ain't doing enough. I'm like, how old are you? 18, 19. And the reason is because when you look at your phone, you seeing everything that everybody's doing everywhere. Like when I was in, when I first went to college, I knew what everybody was doing on the campus and the surrounding areas,
Starting point is 00:33:21 but I didn't know what the dudes at central was doing or the dudes at Hampton or Howard. Now everything is available to you every 15 to 60 seconds, so they're under a greater level of pressure than we were ever under because you have so much access to information. So you think about the pressure of having that type of access to information, seeing everybody who's living better than you, and then you've got to live in this reality.
Starting point is 00:33:43 They need that type of support from people like us to be able to push them forward and say, hey, man, the real world is always going to be the real world. When you turn that phone off, this is still going to be going on so you can push through it. And that's necessary. That's why I was so me and L after we had the conversation i was just like man i'm glad that you're doing it because you're the person that can change the dynamic of what people think about reality tv you know i mean it doesn't have to be you know you relegated to being a reality star if you go on a reality television show you can go on there and change the dynamic and i think that's what he did so it's good for people who might not have had the theory to be able to say, I'm going to a reality show. Now they can see somebody like him on a reality show
Starting point is 00:34:30 and realize, okay, I can go on there, be myself, and still come out and do all the same things without being typecast as, all right, well, we ain't going to be able to see you on nothing else but Love & Hip Hop, and not that there's anything wrong with those shows, but... I might go on there next. For real? I want to go on there. You want to do Love & shows, but- I might go on there next. For real?
Starting point is 00:34:45 I want to go on there. You want to do love and hip hop? I want to go on there and break up. What? I don't know. Just go on there and have a terrible relationship. Pick up what Steve and Jay left off. On purpose?
Starting point is 00:34:54 On purpose. See, that's funny, though. If you go on there with that intention, that's funny. That's comedy to me. I would definitely go on there. Have they approached you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:03 You just didn't want to do it yet? I ain't found the right person to go on there yet. Because I don't want it to be just regular. I might get one of them OnlyFans girls or something. Act like we in love for three episodes. Yeah, they approached me with a reality show. They want to be doing a reality show where I was going over there to find love. I was like, you don't want me on there.
Starting point is 00:35:21 You should go on there. You need love. Not like that. They don't want that. Boy, you think them comments be bad when I be on here? Oh, my God. They approach you because they hear your comments about your relationship? Yeah, they thought that it would be a good idea to have me go on there and bullshit. I'd go on there.
Starting point is 00:35:37 No, I couldn't do it. You know what I mean? I couldn't do it. It would be too disrespectful for the people who have accepted the truth that I give out every day for me to go on there and act like I'm trying to find a girlfriend on a reality show. That would ruin my- You should go in there and fall in love with an ugly woman. What's an ugly woman?
Starting point is 00:35:51 I mean a woman who's not conventionally attractive. Cosmetically challenged? Yeah. Cosmetically challenged. She didn't style yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give her like 2027, she'd be, that'd be the one. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:03 He went on there talking all that shit. Exactly, you know what I mean? So you say I need to go out there and get an unconventionally attractive woman. Then you know what, now that makes sense. We might be able to shoot and get an unconventionally attractive woman, put her with Charlamagne who was unconventionally attractive, show him, get her to show her his whole process. She look just like him, her name's Sharla Womain.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Hey, that's crazy. I used to always say, I'm an exotic. I'm exotic looking. No, you're not. Like Seal. Remember Seal? Like women like Seal. Remember Seal?
Starting point is 00:36:36 This nigga said he look like Seal. He got one white lady and thought that was it. Seal ain't got a good summer. My eyes and then mine. Come on, Charlemagne. Who was the white lady he was married to? She was like a supermodel. Yeah, she was a supermodel.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Yeah, they got kids and everything. Shout out to Seal, bro. Don't let him be the face of ugly. Yeah. And then I just realized something, Charlemagne. You said my daughter made me do the walk in shape. You know I'm not ashamed of the way my hairline looks, right? But you looked like Michael Myers when you took the phrase.
Starting point is 00:37:12 That's the funny part about it. Like, you know what I mean? I'm glad that we had the type of dynamic that we have because it's fun for her. But, like, from the beginning, it was just me showing that, man, who gives a fuck what people think about you? You know what I mean? And the fact that I could walk at the same reason I could walk around confident With my hair looking crazy like that is the same reason you think you look like Morris Chestnut I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:37:38 delusion But yeah, but it's self-indulgent delusion. You know what I'm saying? SID, we both got it. Don't let them talk yourself to steam down. That's what I'm saying. You got to have that type of mentality. I ain't going to take it that far, but you got a good job. You got a good job. He got a good job.
Starting point is 00:37:57 He a good man. Amen. There you go. I think Maliki Ova. You got insurance. You got stability. You said I didn't look like Maliki Ova. New York think Maliki over. You got insurance. You got stability. You said I didn't look like Maliki over. New York undercover Maliki over or Tyler Perry movie Maliki over.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Tyler Perry movie Maliki over. Don't let him do that. You know that. Don't let him do that. Man, salute to Maliki over, man. I ain't got no problem. That's the old me. You just texted me the other day.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Don't act like he ain't texted you. You sent me a screenshot. Yeah, well, you know what? Now that I think about it, y'all do look like Malik, Yobe, and Torres. Y'all could be the New York undercover. New York's other brothers. New York's other brothers undercover. Because y'all is undercover.
Starting point is 00:38:40 You know what I mean? Bro, we need to stop coming up here giving these niggas these free ideas, man. They need to pay us, man. We're going to do that for Tubi, man. We're going to do that for Tubi. And then, you know, Jess can be the chief. Jess can be the chief, you know, the chief of police that y'all got to report to. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:57 She could be in a relationship with Colin Powell. That would be a hit. Man, I'm telling you, bro. I hate y'all, man. Don't hate on us, man. Whatever. We'll start with Channel 85, man? What'd you say?
Starting point is 00:39:08 What's up with Channel 85? Jess, you need to take a nap. You sleepy. I can see it. She pregnant. Answer the motherfucking question, nigga. There you go. Now, don't get too aggressive.
Starting point is 00:39:19 That baby, your water gonna break on camera. But now, you know, channel 85 is is you know our attempt in you know making sure that we are in control of as much as we can be in control of the content that we put out on there is the way we want it to be without having to be you know under the the rules and guidelines of you know people who might disagree with what we want our narrative to be. So having that control is is important. And also being able to be in charge of what you know, you put out and having the understanding of how deep that goes when it comes to the visual aspects, when it comes to what you're talking about, the content wise, all of that is stuff that somebody else is going to dictate and determine when you're using that platform.
Starting point is 00:40:07 So for us to have that ability, we're, one, putting out what we want to put out, but also learning the game from that perspective to be able to have people who have like minds be able to come in and put their content out on our platform as well. It's all about the ownership, what it looks like to create produce your own ideas and where would it live what does it look like we don't need the validation of somebody at a
Starting point is 00:40:31 network to say that's a good one i don't like that one maybe you change that it's like no we want to try to build we want to build within our own structure and it's all about retaining ownership because you know with other platforms like YouTube and the social media, that fluctuates. One month you be great. You make a whole lot of money. Then the next month they'll flag all your content. And then you make no money.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So it's really just about trying to stabilize the ownership and, you know, get into the media game. Because I feel like at this point it's still early like hell yeah people still figuring out like what's gonna happen in 10 years where all this content is created like how are we gonna keep getting paid off of it you know i'm saying so that's that's the the the like the insight that we take when we're creating our new projects and you know doing things like channel 85, it's in the tech world. If we figure out some tech world type situation,
Starting point is 00:41:28 we'll be the next billionaire. Yeah, exactly. And then you look at the way that the game has changed with the streaming. You look at people like Hasanet and I Show Speed and all of these people who are going. I got to get over there with them. Yeah, for sure. They need an old dude over there.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah, you know what I mean? They need somebody to get over there with them yeah for sure the old dude over there yeah you know i mean they can't be over there i mean that that right there is is a dynamic that shows you just how quickly things can change because you know five years ago nobody saw that coming nobody saw valuable options and being able to just sit in a room and broadcast yourself doing whatever it is you want to do but now that is one of the most lucrative ways to be able to market to be able to you know you know break artists to be able to do all of these different type of things so that goes to show you how the development of technology is changing the way that entertainment is consumed so I think that when you put your you know hat in the game you allow
Starting point is 00:42:22 yourself to you know be in the race in a way to where you can connect with these people because you have the same type of dynamic going on to where they can, hey, man, we doing this. Come sit with us so we can sit with you and do that. But I think that a lot of people are still stuck in that old guard. So you got to realize that things change. Time is always moving forward. So you can't be stuck in the mentality ah man i can't get with that and that's why kev is so smart because you know he's already certified legendary in the entertainment industry so he doesn't he didn't have to go and put himself in that position he would have been straight without that but because of the energy that those guys are putting out he's
Starting point is 00:43:02 so value in that and that's something that we always want to have on one end, the vision to be able to see and also be able to have something that somebody can look at us and, and there might be in a greater position and say, Hey, I want to come sit down with them. You know what I mean? I want to come have a conversation with these guys to be able to show that
Starting point is 00:43:20 I'm seeing that the progression of entertainment is something that I want to be a part of, even though I've been in it for 30 40 years you know I'd love to see 85 south on Kai I'd love to see Kai on 85 south yeah both ways man Kai come come come rock with us Kai you know I'm saying we out here snap oh a live stream from 85 studios would be crazy yeah a live stream anywhere with slam I mean that is you know the is, you know, I use my daughter as an example. Like, she's my consigliere into the things that I don't understand about, you know, the Internet and entertainment in that regard. And everything that she put me on to, I embrace it because I know that this is what, in 10 years, this is what the dynamic is going to be in entertainment. So if I want to stay in touch, that's my easiest, you that's my easiest way for me to stay in touch is right there.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I got it. And I think a lot of us, if we gave that ability to the children that we have or the children that we're around to be able to let them guide us into what we are going into the future and seeing, you'll have a lot more opportunity to make more money, especially when you've been doing it for, you know, we've been in this game now. We've been on TV, what, 10 years now? Almost 11 years?
Starting point is 00:44:31 Yeah, yeah. So, you know, and Wildin' Out, Garay, Premier. Yeah. Wildin' Out, Garay, Premier this week. You know what I mean? Another season is Garay, Premier this week. So, you know, we have been blessed to be in the game, but it's always progression that
Starting point is 00:44:45 can be made and a lot of the times you miss that progression by being stuck in your old ways you know i'm saying so you know just open your mind up and you'll see the value and all of this stuff these you know new entertainers are doing out here because we definitely see y'all got for y'all the dumbest pitch the dumbest pitch somebody came to y'all and said this we want you to do this movie or this show for me it was that reality show i was like man y'all got said, we want you to do this movie or this show. For me, it was that reality show. I was like, man, y'all know who I am. You want me to go on there and try to find a girl? I tried to talk him into doing it.
Starting point is 00:45:11 He tried to talk me into doing it. He tried to talk me into doing it. I couldn't do it, man. He cannot be phoned. I can't do it. It's impossible, man. I get in trouble for that now. Niggas be mad at me because I don't want to participate in they bullshit. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I just don't understand how you could be a real nigga everywhere but in your house. That don't make no sense to me. You know what I mean? You're a real nigga everywhere. Motherfucker, better not play with you, better not disrespect you, better not say nothing crazy to you but as soon as you walk in that door and that woman asks you where you was at, huh?
Starting point is 00:45:42 Huh? What you mean? And I just, you know know I can't operate like that you tell the truth yeah I can't operate like that because I you know it just don't make no sense to me I can't say you know drink I can't make you like me based on what your fantasy is about a man if you looking for your fantasy man go find them but this is what it is with me and once they came to me with that i was like no it is what it is because it is what it is it is harsh and it's not harsh you like the fantasy lows every day where were you babe babe i was traveling on the western hemisphere
Starting point is 00:46:20 i was chased down by a tyrannosaurus but But I made my way home to love you. That's all good until you get into that argument. Oh, you dinosaur chasing ass nigga. Oh, niggas chase dinosaurs. Now you mad. Nah, nah. You can have that, Slim. I don't want no part of it.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I want to hear all that reality all the time. Lying to me sometimes. Yeah, lying to me. I'm talking about giving me some good healthy lines oh you know who said that Nikki Giovanni when she was having a conversation with James Baldwin that's one of my favorite conversations she was like you know why can't you why can't you why can't you come home and lie to me and that I can respect that as long as you understand when you catch me in that lie I don't get chastised for it that's the part that they left out you know know what I mean? It's cool if you want to be
Starting point is 00:47:06 lied to. You had some brutal ass whoopings. That's what I heard. Who, me? I heard the trauma. Brutal ass whoopings from who? Oh, yeah. From life. Well, yeah. Definitely, life definitely whooped my ass in a lot of different ways, but it's not in the same capacity that most people. I done dealt with a lot
Starting point is 00:47:21 of laws, man. Like, a whole lot of laws. I lost a lot of people that I love in my lifetime. And one thing you can't ever get back is those people. So you left with the memories. Could you imagine that somebody passed away and all you got is lies? You know what I mean? You've been
Starting point is 00:47:37 lied to the whole time. What you mean, can I imagine? That's the reality of a lot of them situations. Yeah, I know. You know how many people I lost that ain't dead? I lost a lot of people that I don't even know no more. Man, that's real, man. They look like the people I used to know. Yeah, but why did you lose them, though?
Starting point is 00:47:56 Because I never had them. Why did you lose them? Because I never had them. And what you mean by that? They showed up, and they tried to sell me a perception of something that they weren't. Lord have mercy. They attached themselves to something that was not even
Starting point is 00:48:11 real. But that's what I tell you all the time. When you hang around people, if they keep it real and they keep it thorough with you, it's not going to last. You can't be yourself all the time. I can't go on College Hill and tell these people how I really last. You can't be yourself all the time. I can't go on College Hill and tell these people
Starting point is 00:48:27 how I really feel. I can only give them, like the way that they edited around that, I saw that. That was a conversation that happened after class. It had nothing to do with the class. But the way that they played it, they tried to make me look ignorant, rude, disruptive, and disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And this is just a regular conversation that I'm having that somebody asked me. So how could you take something like that? And you know they don't think, you answer, y'all are some of the most thoughtful people I know. But see, I don't come on this show and tell the world, I don't want you to know that about me. You don't need to know that i'm a great person i need you to continue to believe that i'm
Starting point is 00:49:09 as terrible as you think i am that's right because that goes with that's so on brand if i was if i was the nice person who went off camera and hung out with these people six seven hours i'm not they don't even tell you i'm the reason why we passed the class in the first place yes sir all the people on there disagreeing with me they didn't help with the with the actual work part of that you had to do real work hell yeah absolutely hell yeah that nigga was calling me they said they dismantled my opinion but then they had no solution dang nobody had nothing to offer did Didn't nobody want to contribute. Not even the teacher.
Starting point is 00:49:47 So you just did that for the camera. And you're the person going to the Covenant House after the camera's not rolling no more. We had them conversations about that. And what we talking about now, because he's sitting here talking that shit all he want to. This is one of the realest niggas you'll ever meet. Bro, you are blowing it.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I ain't no blowing it. I ain't no blowing it. This is what of the realest niggas you'll ever meet in regards. Bro, you are blowing it. Ain't no blowing it. Ain't no blowing it. This is what it is. You know what I'm saying? But I understand where you're coming from because we have these type of dialogues. Me and this dude, man, we come from nothing. Like me in this city, that's why I love this city so much because me and
Starting point is 00:50:19 this dude, when we first got on Wild N Out, was walking the Western Union, sending $30, $40 home and washing our clothes at the hotels. And we didn't bend together and progress through this industry. So the conversations that we've had are always on brand with the future. We are able to see into the future in a lot of ways. You know, that's why I always give Charlemagne the credit that I give him because you have that same vision. But in those conversations, you realize that what he's saying ain't wrong as far as how detrimental being honest and being real can be. But at some point, you have to recognize that who cares what people think
Starting point is 00:50:53 about how you operate. When you go home and you in the house and it's just you, that's your life. That's the majority of your life. It's just you and your thoughts. So whatever you need to do. My life is just me walking around with sweatpants And no droll yes That's majority in the rap music remote 3. Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's your real life
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah, that's that's your real life right there That's what you're gonna do but Jordan and then the fuck the crazy part is that's what you enjoy the most exactly That's what makes you who you are. Yeah all the most exactly that's what makes you who you are yeah all the way that's what make you who you are so you know what there's a lot of those things that make me who i am but i think the mississippi stands out the most you know you when you come from the country that's right you start to see like you get the like the first lesson that you learn is between cost and value that's right it's because something costs a lot doesn't mean it holds any value. That's right.
Starting point is 00:51:45 So when I go through this journey with the entertainment industry and you get the opportunities to make money and things of that nature, I think about how far that will actually go where I'm from. You know what I mean? How much you can actually do.
Starting point is 00:51:59 There's a lot of things that I still haven't been able to comfortably buy because of the... You know how that'll help somebody in the... Oh, man. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I can easily do that. I still haven't been able to comfortably buy because of the survivors' remorse and the guilt. Oh, man. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? It's like I could easily do that. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:52:10 But I could also take this and go help damn near all the people that I know. That's right. Boy, you know what I mean? Change somebody's life. Like, change their whole situation. That's right. But which one do you do? Do you serve yourself or do you do that?
Starting point is 00:52:24 You're going to grow to learn to do a little bit to find the balance. You know what I mean? You got to find a balance because you realize in helping people a lot of times, like I, all the time, I don't loan people money. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:36 If I give you something, cause I don't have any money. I'm still, that's my story. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't loan people money.
Starting point is 00:52:43 If I give you something, I'm giving it to you because I know that the process of getting it back is going to be a whole process that I don't want to see those characteristics in you because the humbleness that you come and ask for it with, there's no way that I'm going to have to or be able to ask you for it back with the same humbleness
Starting point is 00:53:02 because it's something that I gave to you, so I'm automatically going to look like an asshole asking for that little bit of money I gave you. You know what I'm saying? But you also have to balance yourself in knowing that if you give it all away, you won't have nothing. And then those same people who are asking you, you could never ask them for the things that they're asking you for.
Starting point is 00:53:18 That's right. So you got to have that balance. That's why I tell family, don't be ridiculous. Don't ask me for stuff you've never had in your life. Let me get $10,000 until next Friday. You're like, what? Yeah, like asking you for an me for stuff you've never had in your life yeah get 10,000 till next Friday yeah yeah like you asking you for amount of money you've never made like you don't even know how to go get this but you expect me and it's something that I always ask is like how many solutions or how many possible solutions did you go through before you got to me or was it
Starting point is 00:53:40 the problem then me yeah I need to be your last yeah I mean like don't let me be the solution to your problem. Like to have some type of cache to where you try to figure this out on your own. Tell me what you did up until you having to call me. That didn't work to where I was the last option for you to be able to make this happen. And then certain people don't even ask for anything.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Those are the easiest people to help because you know that they are trying. That's the process that goes unsaid. Like I know you've been doing everything that you can to fix this so in order for me to help you not go through that process anymore i'll help you out but if it's just i got a problem you the solution those are the people you got to learn how to separate yourself from because you'll never be able to get them enough because there'll never be problems. There'll never not be problems, rather, in somebody's life. Everybody going to always have issues, and when you the person that people look at as the solution, they don't respect your issues.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I always act like I'm just in between jobs. Well, I mean, technically. Yeah, I'm working on some things, man. Chico, can I borrow $5,000? You said what now? Nothing. All right. $85,000.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Chico being talkative. Stop trying to get rid of us. Don't say that and then try to get us out of here. Chico, when you go to his page and you block, don't ask why.
Starting point is 00:54:53 I might be blocked now. She's blocking you. I might be blocked now, but it's okay because you know I love him and I'm trying to help my brother out. You are already rich. You don't need no $5,000 from me.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I appreciate you guys for joining us. You ain't going to get to see none of the family photo shoots on the stairwell when they get all dressed alike and they be on the stairwell. Yeah. You're gonna miss all of them. I know I'm gonna miss them. And Christmas coming too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Yeah, but that's what I'm worried about. I want him to keep the stairwell. He keep asking for money. It ain't gonna be no stairwell them niggas gonna be back on the porch in Queens and they're gonna be mad and I don't want that for my man and his family guys it's Halloween first we do Halloween first we don't do Thanksgiving then we do Christmas and New Year's see what I'm saying you already I want them to keep the family tradition going he didn't already ran too many risks, man. He's too beautiful of a family.
Starting point is 00:55:46 He has too beautiful of a life. Man, I see Kobe, ladies and gentlemen. No, stop. Y'all ain't got this. It's Friday. The big business. Check it out. It's Friday on a Monday.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Y'all ain't got nothing to do. It's Friday on a Monday. It's Friday on a Monday. Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't got nothing to do. Y'all ain't about to do nothing. That's exactly what I'm about to go to. I'm going to be outside with no shoes on, barefoot, walking around New York. Oh, yeah, you on mushrooms. I probably do some weed today. Probably just do some weed today. I don't know nothing about that, man. Make sure you watch College Hill.
Starting point is 00:56:21 That's right. Make sure you watch 85 South Show. Make sure you come to all the live shows. Subscribe to the channel 85. Subscribe to the channel 85. 85. 85. We all got, you know, the tour we doing.
Starting point is 00:56:33 We got individual shows. We got coming up, man. Y'all should come support, man. Just show love, man. Salute to our brother DC. You know what I mean? Happy birthday to Prince. Happy birthday to Prince.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Today is Prince's birthday. That's why, you know, today is Prince's birthday. Today is Prince's birthday. That's why he's not here, man. He's been an amazing father, man. Absolutely. So, you know, salute to our brother, man. And, you know, thank y'all for having us as always. Always, man.
Starting point is 00:56:53 We appreciate y'all, man. Appreciate y'all partnership, business and personal, man. That's right. All the way. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up. In the morning.
Starting point is 00:57:02 The Breakfast Club.

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