The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Al Sharpton Talks National Action Network, Trump, Eric Adams, Operation Breadbasket, Eulogies +More

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

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Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are The Breakfast Club, Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess, we got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. We have Reverend Al Sharpton, welcome back, R Club. Lauren and Rosa filling in for Jess. We got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. We have Reverend Al Sharpton.

Welcome back, Raf. Thank you, glad to be here. How you feeling? I'm good, I'm real good. You got your workout in this morning? You know every morning, seven days a week, I got to get up and do it. Have you, when the last time you missed one?

About maybe seven years ago. Really? I don't care where I am in the world. You and I was in South Africa together and I got up every day and did my workout. Absolutely. The last time I seen you, Reverend Al, we were coming back from D.C. We were playing together. This is right after Kamala Harris lost.

Very sad, very upsetting. What do you think about the new presidency and what he's doing and all the things that is affecting our communities? What's your thoughts on that? I mean, I think that, first of all, the only surprise I have is that everybody's surprised. He said he was gonna do everything he's doing, tariffs, that he was coming after DEI,

diversity, equity, and inclusion. He said that he was gonna go after his enemies or those that he felt were opposed to him. So I don't know what the shock is. And I don't understand where all of the people that were saying that they didn't see the difference between Trump and the Democrats, how they have gotten longitis now

and have not come back out and say, because none of what he's doing what a Democrats doing now nobody's been more challenging to the Democrats and I have all my life but you can't act like that was the same thing he has done a direct affront on black people and working people and no apologies I mean when you take down black servicemen's pitches on the Department of Defense's website including Jackie Robinson and Medgar Evers you can't be more intentionally offensive than that. So I think that the bad side is what he's doing. The good side is I think it's gonna I think it's

gonna wake a lot of us up. Sometimes we need something to happen for us to understand what is really happening. Well, when you're dealing with poor and disenfranchised, poor and disenfranchised people, how do you tell them that, you know, if they're already living in hell, how do you tell them things are gonna get hotter?

Because they get hotter. I mean- But you're already in hell. Well, you're in hell, but the heat is up in hell. And the fact is, we in hell economically. Trump is now saying, I'm gonna make it worse. I'm going to use Social Security money, Medicare money. You had that in hell. I'm gonna use that to balance the budget

and pay for my billionaires to get a tax cut. So when we tell ourselves it can't get worse, it can get worse. When Trump say I'm going to bring back stop and frisk, which we all, Nash Action Network is part of helping get down, that means you're going to get thrown up against the wall again. When Trump says that I'm going to deal with getting rid of all of these sentencing rules that can help you get out of jail. So there's a big difference in doing two years and doing 20. So yeah, you in hell and you are now the fires in hell is being turned up.

And to tell yourself, to try to rationalize your inactivity does not make you smart. Because a lot of brothers and sisters saying that to me, well, we're doing bad anyway. That's trying to rationalize that you are not trying to do better. To say that a man with 34 felony convictions found guilty of sexual harassment is better than a woman who did everything right, lawyer, attorney, general, senator, went to Howard. And just give that example to your kids, that no, I'll go with DeFelon, cause he got swagger,

is to make us appear like we're not serious. I don't think that's a fair comparison though. And the reason I say that is cause I don't think the vice president, of course she didn't run a perfect campaign, who does? But I think that she suffered from being a part of the democratic brand as opposed to her. It wasn't the fact that they chose a Donald Trump over her.

They chose Donald Trump over Democrats. They chose Donald Trump over Democrats because I feel like it was the same thing in 2020. You had to fight to convince people to vote for Joe Biden. It was definitely the same thing in 2016. You had to fight people to convince for Hillary Clinton. The last time Democrats have been cool in the eyes of the people that have been 08 and 012. Well then why did Biden win?

The reason I don't accept that, Biden won. A series of extraordinary circumstances meaning George Floyd, COVID. You don't think it was extraordinary. No, no, no. George Floyd and COVID happened. Yeah. And so did 34th Felony. We saw that this is the only time we've seen American history of men stand up in court having to defend himself and attacking black prosecutors. He went after Alvin Bragg. He went after Tish James. And the fact is that Donald Trump was the president when George Floyd happened. I did George Floyd's funerals, led the big march.

We could not get a peep out of the White House. So that don't wash with me. When you're standing there saying this man was president during COVID and told y'all to drink bleach, was president when George Floyd and never opened his mouth other than one time, walked across the street from the White House to the church and held the Bible upside down and reprimanded the protestors.

We all got amnesia in two years? That's what happened though for a lot of people. And you've been doing this work for a really long time. I'm interested because it does feel like that's what happened. But how do you get people as emotionally charged as you are about it? Because people were emotionally charged when George Floyd was killed

and when those different things were happening, which I think led to Biden, but they didn't care about the 34 charges. So how do you change that? I think the way you change it is you got to be able to get people to understand the only way've got to be able to get people to understand the only way you're going to be able to make changes, you have to sustain a movement. You know, I talk all the time about there are those of us that have tried to build organizations

to sustain and then you get those that are like flash and you need them both because you need the flash to get the fire, but then that doesn't sustain it. I can tell you every, you said I've been there a long time I just go back the last 12 years we saw groups after Trayvon then they die out we saw groups after Michael Brown and Ferguson die out then we see groups on and on and all the way to George Floyd that's why you need groups that's going to sustain itself whether it be on outside of civil rights or whether it be the nation that's gonna be there when the smoke clear,

because the right wing has that. Don't forget, they went from Tea Party to birtherism to Donald Trump. So they have their flash guys, but they build institutions, and it led to Trump. And it's not even generational, that's the other cop out.

I was talking to a guy the other night, we getting ready for our national action at work convention and he was coming and he said I used to not understand y'all but I'm you know I'm next generation I want to do this that other but I'm work with y'all. I said let me ask you how old are you? He's I'm 43. I said well you ain't that young. I said you do realize Vice President JD Vance is younger than you. He said, word? I said, Stephen Miller, the architect of the Project 2025, is 37 years old.

This ain't about a generation, it's about an agenda. Those young guys on the right were smart enough to take a 78-year-old man that eat Big Macs in the middle of the night and sit on the toilet tweeting and make him president to get their Agenda through they divide us on whether you Christian Muslim young or we got to stop all that and look at what made them victorious there was no Separation between them they they they are Christian Church. They are radicals. They're young they oh That's what put Donald Trump back in so where the Democrats project They are Christian Church, they are radicals, they're young, they're old.

That's what put Donald Trump back in. So where the Democrats project 2025? That's a good question. Why they don't have a project 2028? Why they don't have a project 2026? They didn't have a project 2020. We did. We did, George Floyd.

They didn't. I keep reminding people, the Democratic Party didn't lead the Civil Rights Movement. The Civil Rights Movement challenged the Democratic Party. Lyndon Johnson and John Kennedy did what King and Farmer and Pan-Lohama made them do. And when we are dependent on others to do for us, when we ought to be leading the charge for ourselves, we always fooling ourselves.

Yeah, you know, listen, there's a lot of reasons I don't believe in the Democratic Party anymore, but you know, 2020 they won the election, they were in the White House for four years, and that still didn't stop what we're seeing now. So how can we have faith in them to do anything? And I know you're saying, you know, we can't depend on them,

but you tell us to vote for them so they can go in there and stop these things from happening, but they didn't. They didn't stop the fascists from rising. I think that we vote for them as the alternative to those that are openly gonna do what Trump is doing now. Nobody gonna say that they're the perfection, but if I'm drowning in the water,

if a guy gonna bring me up two inches rather than bring me all the way out, other guys holding my leg, bringing me down, I'm gonna go with the two inches. But we did that in 2020, and it didn't stop nothing. In 2020, no, we made some advancements in those four years. We were able to stop stopping first. We was able to deal with saving some healthcare. 2020, we know we made some advancements in those four years.

We were able to stop, stop and first, we was able to deal with saving some healthcare. We were able to deal with infrastructure development where blacks got some contracts. We got some things done, but then it reverts back. If you look at history, it is always one step forward and one back. After slavery, we had 12 years of Reconstruction,

then 50 years of Jim Crow. So if we don't understand that they gonna fight back, I think the problem is a lot of us relax and say we won now, we there now. No, the fight is just as much important when you end as when you trying to get in. So where do we go from now? We look at all the things that Trump is doing, right?

He said he's gonna possibly run a third or fourth term, you never have to vote again. So where do we go from now? We look at all the things that Trump is doing, right? He said he's going to possibly run a third or fourth term. You never have to vote again. Yeah, well, that's tall. Gee. Well, first of all, to get a third term, you have to change the Constitution. You've got to get 2 thirds of the Senate to vote for, 2 thirds of the House, and then 2 thirds of the states

to ratify that. That ain't going to happen. But what he's doing is his boys got caught on that signal app. Tending to text out, yep. On that signal app, and he's trying to change the conversation. He's mastered that. He knows how, we all talk about is he gonna run again rather than talk about how the vice president, secretary of defense, secretary of state, and all of them were on the app

talking about classified stuff of attacking a building in Yemen. And Trump sent up there, how do I change the conversation? I'm gonna throw out the, he's only been in three months. Why would he even be talking about what he gonna do in four years? And Biden was too old, we said, right? Trump will be 82 years old in four years.

I mean, as crazy as it is now, can you imagine what he gonna be like at 82 years old in four years. I mean as crazy as he is now, can you imagine what he gonna be like at 82 years old trying to convince two-thirds of the state to bring him back in? It's all in his mind it's a decoy to try to get away from the issues right now because they can't rationalize. This is the first time you see in red states they have an election in Wisconsin, two in Florida, where they are fighting to win those elections. Cause even whites are now going to their town hall meetings

saying, wait a minute, you mess with my social security. Wait a minute, you messing with my Medicare. Republican congressmen can't hold town hall meetings. So he's gotta try to change the conversation, make it something else. And he's good at that. There's no doubt in my mind that Republicans are gonna fumble the ball.

You already see it happening now, right? Based off what you just said about what's happening in the town halls, on a larger level, you see what's going on in the stock market, all of that type of stuff. But even when they fumble, I don't think Democrats have the team to recover the ball.

Now there, you and I agree. I think the problem is that you got the wrong team players. You cannot play a game if you're not gonna play the game. And if you, they're afraid of Trump's gonna tweet, Trump's gonna do this. Don't get in the ring if you're afraid to get hit. I agree. You got to throw a blow and expect the blow to come back. And that's what I've dealt with all my, I assume they're gonna come and throw blows at me.

Because I'm throwing blows at them. People say to me all the time, Redmayne, how do you take it? Because I expect it. I mean, do I think I'm gonna swing at them and call them bigots and talk about what they're doing to us and they're not gonna swing back? I think a lot of us act like the folks

that we're talking about are wicked ain't really wicked. They are really wicked and they're gonna try to do wicked stuff. You know, do we, do we, do we, do we, do we, I feel like you should primary everybody ain't really wicked. They are really wicked. And they gonna try to do wicked stuff. I feel like you should primary everybody in the Democratic Party who's not willing to fight. And the leadership like the Chuck Schumer, the Hakeem Jeffries, if y'all not willing to fight, we should be calling for them to step down too.

But the only way you can run in the primary is you gotta be in the party. If you're not registered in the party, you can't primary. So I think that I agree with primary. And I agree that a lot of these people need to be challenged. But you've got to build up a base to challenge them. And that's why I talked about the temporary folks. You need them for flash, but you need your people

that are going to be there in and out so they can build some permanent structures. You think it's crazy that you look at Trump, right? Like him, love him, hate him, whatever. The fact that he gets in office and he actually shows the power that we thought other presidents should have had, especially Democrats. Like, I mean, the first day he gets on stage, he gets a pen and he's signing executive orders left and right.

I mean, his guys that's getting, that has 20 years in prison, 10 years in prison, part of them immediately. And then you look at some of our Democratic presidents and you'd be like, man, they could have helped so many people for good. It just never did. Just was cowardly and didn't. So how does that give the people confidence? It doesn't. And that's why guys like me that would come to the Democrats and ask them to pardon people and didn't can be disappointed and say, I went to Biden and asked for certain pardons that we couldn't get.

He pardoned his son. But I couldn't get him to part in Jesse Jackson's Sun, and who should have been partying, and others. We went there. So how does that make you feel? It makes me feel like I'm not getting everything I want, but I'm certainly not going to go on the other side. So we need to then put the right kind of leadership there.

You don't, if you're on a team, if the quarterback or the tacklers can't work, you get better team players. You don't join the other team. So that's why I'm saying there's a difference in the frustration some of us are showing and some of you expressed, and in those that went and joined the other team. They went and supported Trump like that was an alternative.

The alternative to having a head cold is not suicide. So how do you look at Mayor Eric Adams? I was about to say you decided whether you back it away from Eric Adams. How do you look at Mayor Eric Adams? How do I do what? Look at Mayor Eric Adams. Look, Eric and I go way back. When I started National Action Network, he was one of the founders. Where he is now, I think that he has made some positions that I disagree with, and I've told him that. Whether he made a deal with Trump or not, I don't know. But I know that there's some things in policing

and all we disagree with, some things that we agree with. But I think that he's in a very peculiar political position. I don't know how he can get reelected. So you don't think that- I'm sorry, go ahead. I was gonna say so because... Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you? Why is my cat not here?

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listen and follow the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Before, the conversation is that you are having a conversation about whether you're going to back him as mayor or not again. So you have made a decision not to? I don't know that he's running yet. Has he said he's running? He hasn't said he has to Thursday to say if he's running again. But if he does say right now, do you know what you would do?

Call me Thursday night. I don't really call you. I don't really call you for that. Because I think for me, I'm looking at it because, I definitely will, I'm looking at it because you've been so vocal about him. And now you're vocally like, I don't know what I'm going to do. What do you want him to do? Like, what do you expect him to do? I want him to continue to fight for the things that I supported him on.

Like the right kind of policing in our community, like being fair to people that are getting cut out of jobs in the city of New York, like standing up to Trump on a lot of this stuff that he is agreeing with Trump on. I do not agree that we should put Haitians and people of color in a category that they can be picked up by ICE just because of what they look like. That is racial profiling. I want them to do those things. As a civil rights leader,

do you feel like you should work with this administration on anything? With the President Trump administration? Yeah, this administration. I don't think that I have that option. Trump has made it clear he's not gonna work with civil rights leaders. He tweets at least once a month against me by name, because I fought him when he was

here. Central Park Five, we fought them when everybody thought they were guilty. Them boys went to jail. And two of them at my rallies every week now, because we support them. So I don't think that there are areas that he and I could ever work together. But even though he tried to play Democrat, he used to come to National Action Network convention. Twice he came. But there are some that can work with him, I guess. They need to do that. But they need to show us the result of the work. You remember, both of you, you remember when I had access to Obama.

I could come out and say, well I got Obama to do this and that. I've not seen any black come out and say, I got Trump to do anything. In fact, the last black I saw come out of there was Omarosa, who said he's a racist. We don't even have an Omarosa in the White House now. Do you feel like there's enough resistance on the street? No, I do not. I think that the resistance on the street, when you see one of the things we're talking about is doing a boycott against a single company and not talking about we're gonna do it Ten days 30 days you boycott I grew up in Operation Bread Bag you boycott till you break them

Or you make them do what you want to do You don't put a timeline because they're just wait on you then it's oh we got 40 days Oh, we got you need to break things down economically 40 days, oh, we got, you need to break things down economically. None of these companies that we're studying, coming out with NAMM, can survive a long boycott because you find out who has a margin of profit, 4 or 5%, and their consumer dollars, 30%, come from the black community, which means all you got to do is stop 7, 8 out of those 30 to not buy the product longer than they can operate in the red.

That's how you do a boycott. That's what we're getting ready to do. So you don't want DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion. Fine. Then you shouldn't have a diversified consumer base. You can have diversity in your selling, in your sales, but you don't want diversity in the C-suite. Then why are we buying from you?

I can buy my stuff from somebody else and that's what we're coming out this week on the companies that we're going after. And we're going to stay on them until we get them to turn around on this DEI thing. Which companies? I was going to ask you. I'm going to announce it at the end of the convention. That's one thing that I- And we're going to announce, we march every year, big march, a couple hundred thousand in Washington,

we gonna do it somewhere else this year. I'm gonna announce that on Saturday. Is that due to the boycott? It's gonna be connected to economics. It's just an economic battle. We do not have the Senate, we do not have the House, but Trump and the Senate and the House can't tell us where to spend our dollars.

We ought to focus on corporate businesses and force them to tell their man, Donald Trump, what they got to back up on. That's the mistake that was made after George Floyd, when all those corporations proposed all that money that we never saw. I remember Reverend Jesse Jackson pressuring corporations back in the day to keep their promises. Well, I was his youth director. That's why I know. I've been there.

I'm not experimenting. I was there. I became youth director of Operation Breadbaskets, which is when I was 13. So I grew up in this. And you don't have a timeline on boycotts. And you don't stop the pressure until, first of all, you have these are the six things we want.

Contracts, money in black banks. That's what we were doing. Advertising advertising on black me you don't even have black media no more we would categorize it now we don't do that anymore and that's why we got to bring that back because that worked what do you mean by we don't have black media anymore we don't have enough black owned me oh got you we had more black-owned media in 20 years gonna we have now. Got you. How did you feel? I've seen the press go at you and go at a lot of the people that Kamala Harris's campaign gave

money to during the campaign. So what was your thoughts on that? I expected that. I thought they was late. Kamala Harris gave some civil rights groups money to help get the vote out nonpartisan, signed a contract with us that we could not in any way endorse candidates,

so that they were protected, we were protected. Nobody ever asked, did y'all have a contract? I think she gave several groups a couple million dollars, she gave national action, there were 500,000. And the tour we took, I took Central Park Five, two of them all over the country, which cost us more than that. We had to raise more money. So I expected them to do that. And my thing is, fine,

we can bring the contract, let's go to court, because then I'm going to ask you about all the money the Republicans was giving some of these Christian conservative churches and these groups. They're going to take a shot. They are not going to mess with you unless you mess with them. Isn't it interesting you got some of the people that you refer to that got some of that money doing the George Floyd? They ain't talking about them, they ain't prosecuting them, they're going after other people.

I'm talking about people that did crazy stuff with that money. None of them, have you heard, got a problem. But they still beating up on us. I had a question for you, you mentioned- That is true. If anybody got hundreds of millions of dollars and nobody say nothing. Not a dime.

But I get a half million dollars on a $700,000 tour and it only was 100 more. But you know what that's about though, it's cause you're like a figure of faith that people wanna move and target. And I accept that, that's why I don't give me you're like a figure of faith that people want to move and target. And I accept that. That's why I don't get mad. I don't be crying.

I expect, in fact, I get a little upset if they don't hit me at least once every couple of weeks. Must mean I ain't got my fastball. Then Charlamagne the God be saying I done got old, so I gotta stay. You gotta stay ready so you don't gotta get ready. I gotta stay in the middle of the heat. I had a question. You mentioned like having black people standing next to Trump.

We don't have anybody right now doing that You talk about Omarosa people compare Candace Owens to Omarosa and we're saying that she was trying to position herself that way I know she's not the biggest fan of you But like you do you think something like that would have been a help or hurt for us if she was able to position herself the way She was trying to who Candace Owens? You put a Candace Owens and and and Candace Owens in that category? She's not been in the White House? No, she hasn't.

She was, she, the way- Omarosa was in the White House. People felt like she was trying to position herself that way to get there. I have no idea. If she walked in right now, I wouldn't know it. So I don't know that she was there. I know, that's right.

I love what y'all do with Operation Breadbasket. I have done with Operation Breadbasket. That's something that I think that this generation needs to study a lot more on. When you look at, I remember Operation Breadbasket. I have done with Operation Breadbasket. That's something that I think that this generation needs to study a lot more of. Well, when you look at, I remember with Breadbasket, we would go at McDonald's or Burger King or whatever and say, you gotta have black franchises. That's how black franchises,

and I can name those that had them. And those were spelled out results so you could gauge it. And that's what we gotta go back to. We want our own businesses? Yes, okay, give us some franchise. Put money in black banks where we can loan money. When you look at the fact right here in New York City, let's use New York for example,

you have two thirds of the city of New York black and brown. Ask who is managing the funds for the taxpayers. I met with, had all the mayoral candidates come to our convention, and that's one of the things I raised with Eric going for the your thing. How do you have all of this money and none of the blacks in financial services, whether they're in asset management or whatever, are handling a large sum of the money is our taxpayers So let me tell you what happens. I meet with a union a union says

That 70% of my union members are black and Latino I said who invest their pension funds or the pension board takes care of that Let me meet with the pension board pension boards all white They lend money to developers. Those developers take their money and gentrify our community. So grandma's pension funds is the ones that are financing her own removal. We need to start thinking economic again.

And I want to ask you too, I know that, you know, y'all have driven a lot more traffic to Costco because Costco is somebody who stood by their DEI initiatives. What is Costco doing for the movement? We want, I don't want them to do nothing for me personally. They've never donated to nothing, but I want them to open up some Costco stores where we can own some of those stores. We can franchise some of those stores. We want to see,

we went to say we're going to do a buy a cot, we go in there and buy it cause they stood up for us, but not do business with us. I don't want, again, for us to always be the receivers of what is considered charity, give us parody. And you got the National Action Network, well, it's coming up this week, right? Starts Wednesday. I know you're honoring Ms. Patti LaBelle.

Ms. Patti LaBelle's been honored. We're gonna have everybody from the governor of Maryland, Wes Moore, who's the only black governor, to the chair of the Democratic Party. We're going to ask some hard questions. We're going to have Ben Crumper's coming with a lot of the cases that we afford. Everybody's going to be the Dr. Michael Eric Dyson.

And it's four days. We are convinced we always have thousands because it's free. And we even had Charlamagne the god there one that's right absolutely I'm gonna be there with them I'm gonna be with me no you know you're gonna be there cause of her not he's no you don't know about that he's not coming out of respect to me that is not he's coming with Patti LaBelle made it clear. Shalem A. Lagarde is sitting with me.

I'm not sitting with you, Revin. I said, OK. But they told me what it was. I'm like, oh, absolutely, I'll be there. Yeah, no, he's been there for our youth day and all that. He's done that. How did you, when Asa Rocky was going through all of the stuff that he was going through in court,

and you tweeted out about the black jurors, the lack thereof, how do you decide when things like that come across your desk, what like put your name on? Well first the first law I use is that I don't ever get involved in something unless somebody involved asks me. When he was in jail his mother came to me and that's why I stood up for him. Then Trump helped get him back. I give Trump credit for that. Oh, when he was over in... The person over there. So I knew him. So when he's on trial this time, and somebody in his legal team called me and said that, you know, there's an all white pool that they're choosing from. I said,

that's wrong. He said, would you come out here? I said, I don't have to come out. I can tweet. And I tweeted. I wouldn't have done that without the legal team because I wouldn't have known what their legal strategy was. Anytime you see me out there, it's because some of the family members of the legal team have called us. I don't chase ambulance. People say, oh, they ambulance chases.

No, we ain't ambulance chases. We respond to the calls. So you don't dive into cases to make sure that people are doing right by those individuals? Like you wasn't diving into ASAP, you wasn't diving into the DIDI unless somebody actually calls you. Somebody actually calls, and then we research it.

For example, when George Floyd happened, we were in the middle of a pandemic. Ben Crump, who's gonna be leading out the Criminal Justice Forum at the convention, he called me, very mad, did you hear about this guy in Minneapolis? I said I saw something on the news, because everyone's locked in watching this.

He said the family like to speak to you. I said okay, they connected me. Would you go to Minneapolis? Would you lead some marches? Would you do the funeral? I said, have we seen the whole tape? Yeah, and it's exactly what we saw, yeah. I said all right, I the whole tape? Yeah. And it's exactly what we saw. Yeah.

I said, all right, I'm down. No problem. I called Eric Gardner's mother, because George Floyd reminded me of Eric Gardner, you know, the old chokehold. And I asked her, I said, would you go with me to Minneapolis? I'm going to do the funeral. We're going to do a march, and we're going to build up to go to Washington.

She said, I'm down. And I said, we got one problem, it's a pandemic. We could not get a flight, because a lot of the flights was down. I called Robert Smith to be in there and said, can I use your plane? He said, let me see if my pilots are working or pending. That's how we got to Minneapolis.

And then when we got ready for the last funeral in Houston, we had to fly a lot of the family in, so I was too shy to call Robert again. I called Tyler Perry. Tyler Perry sent his plane to bring the family in. But all that was based on a phone call. And right now, from Trayvon Martin all the way to now, from Howard Beach 30-something years ago,

all those families are at our convention. We just had Yusef Hawkins, our mother, at our Saturday rally because I stay with the families. I call them on holidays. Their kids grow with my kids. If they get in a jam, I try to help them out because I know it'll be in the newspaper. We become family. Does it ever get like heavy on you or like what do you do to kind of like decompress? Because it's a lot of like death and trauma. Like you're speaking at the eulogies. I tell you something, it bothers me a lot

that I try not to think about. I have spoke at every victim's funeral you can think of. And a lot of them we had to help pay for. Cause you gotta remember, nobody's family plans on a tragedy. And we never even asked for the money back some of Them settle for millions of dollars say you don't mean nothing. That's what we do Wow, so I mean from back in the day Sean Bell all the way to now I've done the funeral and artists I was thinking I just did Roberta Flax

Eulogy. Yep two weeks ago. I did James Brown. I did Michael Jackson's I did I spoke at Aretha Franklin's I did Eddie Jane I mean you could do a book on a celebrity That would make me crazy if I just sat around at night thinking about it So what I do is I get up in the morning workout and I listen to the Breakfast Club and I feel better You did you did miss hazel dukes to miss hazel dukes? I spoke at that funeral, but I did the eulogy for bird I knew Roberta since I was 13 years old, she was in Operation Breadbasket. Wow.

Operation Breadbasket was started by Dr. Martin Luther King, right? King founded it as his economic arm of Southern Christian Leadership Conference. And Jesse became the Chicago director and then the national director. And when he became national director, I was 13 years old. I became the youth director in New York.

So he and Reverend William Jones mentored me. I like to study movements that were successful and those movements were successful on so many different levels. What should this generation be learning from that civil rights movement in the 60s and what wasn't done in that movement that should be done now?

What they should learn is if the objective, you should judge people by the objective. You cannot in any way gauge people by your objective, gauge them by theirs. And the objective was they wanted to break down apartheid, segregation, and change the laws on voting. They did that. 64 Voting Rights Act, 65 Voting Rights Act,

64 Civil Rights Act, they did that. So, with King and them were after they did that. Then they wanted to build economic bases, Jesse. And they did that. They were able to break in the first blacks that would get on boards, and the first blacks that would own a lot of franchises, and Reggie Lewis and all of them.

They did that. What we did not do is institutionalize those things so from generation to generation that continued and Then we build our own business. We could say what we want I've been a different school of thought than the nation Islam, but lies Muhammad built business That's right any community you win and that's not there no more So what we've got a now perfect is how do you pass it on in your lane? And you know, people come to me, I'd like to be the next guy in national action, but

you got to be about what we're about. If something happened to the pope, you don't get a baptist to be the new pope, you get a Catholic. So if you're not in what we believe in, you cannot be in that. But if you're in that, we need to continue that. And that's what we've not done. We've seen too many just go all political and get out of the economic. You can't afford to be political if you don't have money.

That's right. So even with what this administration is doing, rolling back a lot of things that have helped black people move forward, we can still build those institutions. We can, because he was doing it then. He can't make us spend money they want. He cannot do that.

And if you put the right pressure on them corporations, they can make him turn around. Why is he talking about tariffs and all that now? It's all economic. He is a businessman. Donald Trump has never held office in life. He went in there from business. And that's why I say,

we've got to have an economic strategy. That's right. And join them this Wednesday at nationalactionnetwork.net. Sign up, register. So many people are speaking, I'm looking at right now. Attorney Benjamin Crump, Stacey Adams, Michael Eric Dyson. Of course, Patti LaBelle is gonna be honored.

Charlamagne is gonna be at her table. Congressman Al Green will be joining us. Dr. Jamal Bryant will also be there. Let's see if you have a conversation with DA Alvin Bragg. Yeah, we'll have DA Alvin Bragg there. We're gonna talk about a lot of the criminal justice stuff from the inside.

And then Ben Crump is gonna talk about it externally. It's all free. All they have to go to nationalactionnetwork.net and they can register online. We already have several thousand, but we can handle it. But it's all free if they go in and register now. And that's the Sheridan in New York Times Square. So definitely go register.

And you gotta come up here more often, Reverend Al. All you gotta do is invite me. All right, say no more. I had to comp Charlamagne the Garbage. Man, stop, definitely. Get your computer stacked. I spoke to you on the plane, I said, say no more. I had to count Charlamagne the guardian. Man, stop, definitely. I spoke to you on the plane, I said, come on up. Patti LaBelle had to get in to cover the thing, and he felt bad.

He knew he was going to see me Wednesday night. Oh, that's what it was. So he said, I better put him on the show. Can you call in? Not to cut you off, I'm sorry. But Friday morning, once you make your decision, Thursday night, can you call in? All right.

Yes, please. OK, because we need to talk about that. I'll call in. OK. I'll call in. But I noticed you covered for me., because we need to talk about that. I'll call in. Okay. I'll call in. But I noticed you covered for me. I was getting ready to tell a whole Shalomist story.

You can tell it because I don't like him like that. So go ahead. I do that on Friday morning. Go ahead. Oh, you don't? Oh, no, you don't. Yeah. See what I'm saying?

Uh-huh, right there. This is Reverend Al Sharpton. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning. Wake that ass up. In the morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you? Why is my cat not here?

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