The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Angela Rye Talks New Show ‘Cite Your Source’, Fighting Misinformation, Nolan Wells, Trustworthy News

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

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You're all finished or y'all's done? Morning, everybody. It's DJ NVV. Just hilarious. Sholomey Naga. We are the Breakfast Club. Law and LaRose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

Yes, indeed. She's always here, ladies and gentlemen. She's part of the show, Debbie. Ladies and gentlemen, Angela Ryan, welcome. Thank you. Hey, hi. Hi, guys. How you feeling?

I feel really good. I feel better. I was congested last time I saw y'all. Oh, yeah, you were sick. You had the cooties last week. I'm sorry. The cooties. It was kind of the cooties.

What? But you have a new show. Yes. I mean you have the native... We have a new show, brother. Nice. You're not an executive for new show? Hey, man, man, man.

Yeah. Girl. That would you mean we? But you already have the Native Land podcast. Citrus source. I know, but you already have... I was telling you because you're providing it's misinformation already. You're like, we do?

Oh, yes. Yes. He's trying to be so damn humble. Oh, is that what that is? No, he just slow. Can we talk this again? No, we go stay right here. I want to stay right here.

I want to stay right here. I want you to see what I got to deal with all the time. Start it. Start again. Now I've got a new show. Go. Multiple people. All right.

Start again. You got a new show. I love it when you're here. We don't keep on that. But I'm saying. Start again. Got a new show. We.

Oh, hold on. One more time. So you have a new show. We. Well, I'm an executive producer. I'm still your show. Yes. There you go.

But it's called Sites Your Source. But you already have Native Land Podcast. What is Sight Your Source? Why is it different from Native Land Podcast? Sight Your Source provides us an opportunity to check people on all of the misinformation that spread online on our news shows. How many of you still watch the news? I do. Oh, you do?

Okay, that's good. Local news. Local news. And then you still watch... All of them. To watch for facts? Oh, for entertainment. Okay.

So that's kind of my point. So I'm really frustrated by the ways in which news has switched to providing information to really just looking for ratings. Yeah. And I think that it is woefully dishonest. It's irresponsible. And I think we need something to make sure that we can find our news somewhere. And so one of the things that came to mind was what happened with Jay, someone accusing him of being with the underage girl.

And so that happens, but there's also things like, this is the greatest economy in the world, your president says, right? So all of these things need to be fact-checked, and there needs to be a home for that. And that's what I hope this becomes. We have someone who is really incredible on the show that said it is going to be our two-step verification on the BS. And I think that's the right thing. So it's not just political. It's everything.

And Ashley, Amy, what I'll tell you is so many of us have been hit so hard by Nolan Wells and trying to figure out what happened to him. You all have kids. And so you understand what it's like to not have your child return home and never know what happened to them. our first show is going to be on modern day lynching and we're going to go with three claims. The first claim is black people don't hang themselves from trees. The second claim is lynching is a thing of the past or the third claim is right now,

black lives don't matter. And so we'll work through those claims together with our panel to talk about whether or not these things are true and then what supporting evidence do we have and really get into the depth of the conversations. we don't know what happened to Nolan Wells. So we also have to be responsible about what we're putting out there. We can also, you know, fuel the flame by putting stuff out just to spark anger

because that stuff lives in our bodies ancestrally, you know. So we want to make sure we're also speaking truth based on what we know and the facts we have available. Now, the digital dickheads right now typing, why should we trust you, Angela Rybred? Wow. Robbery. Oh, my God. Is robbery?

Well, no, he just said that. And that is a throwback from elementary school. So thank you, Leonard, for that. That's what they would say. I think that they have every right to want to take time for me to earn their trust. And I think that's fine. I think that they should let the show speak for itself. We have a resident fact checker every show, and it won't be me.

So they don't have to trust me. They can trust that fact checker. Speaking of trusting sources, right, because that's like why I hear a lot of people say that they don't watch the news anymore. You just heard Charlotte say he watches it for entertainment when that's not even really supposed to. to be the premise of the news, right? What sources are trusted? Can you trust right now? Like, who can you give credibility to right now?

I normally will look at two or three sources to see if they're saying the same thing. So papers that I go to, I still trust the black press. So there's black print media, Washington, former Seattle Media, where I'm from, Seattle, New York Times, Washington Post, Politico, depending on what I'm reading, there are a bunch of different sources, financial times that I look to for information. And then I still will like Google and check other sources to make sure. The one thing that I used to be able to rely on is the federal government,

but now they're busy putting ads up with our taxpayer dollars every single week. I think one of the problems is that there's so much opinion. Like I don't need an opinion. I want accurate information and then let me come to my own conclusion. Just give me the facts of the situation. I'll tell you that that will probably be the hardest thing about the show for me. I have an opinion about everything. I don't have a problem with that as long as it's rude.

than factual information. Yeah. Well, sometimes it's emotional. But I think that because it's emotional doesn't mean that it's automatically not logical. Sometimes it's a hybrid of both. But I'll try to be diligent about saying, this is my opinion.

But yeah. Who's on a panel? Because you mentioned there's a panel. So who's on the panel? So the modern day lynching panel will include Sabrina Fulton, which is Trayvon Martin's mother. She, of course, had her child killed at the hands of a vigilante.

There's an argument about what is lynching? If his one person does that constitute a lynching. Roger Mitchell, who was the independent forensic pathologist that did Nolan Wells' independent autopsy will be on the show. We break some of that down too because I've just seen, I guess, a video of them cleaning the boat after they all got off and they said it was weird that he was cleaning the boat at 3, 4 in the morning. So will y'all break all those stories down as well? You know, I think that we should talk about what that is,

but we don't have any real information on, you know, what happened on the boat. boat. So I don't know that Roger will talk about what happened on the boat. Because that again goes back to those theories and those are the theories that enrage us. In addition to that, our independent fact checker will be Ernest Krem the 3rd. He's a history

professor out of Chicago. Really incredible if y'all don't follow him, you should. And then, who am I missing? I'm missing somebody. Oh, we have... No, but he asked me about this panel on Modern New York. Oh, oh, oh. It's Deontay Johnson, who is the Black, he's the president of the Black

Conservative Federation. Definitely Blair. You don't like you told me. You didn't tell me that. You're looking at me like I can help you. Like I can help you. Last time we talk, you didn't have a panel yet. What kind of EP are you?

I'm just sitting there. No, I'm studying his face. Like, I really didn't tell him this. I'm like, really? So every week of change, depending on what you guys are discussing. So the next show will be on school choice. And part of the reason for that conversation, I know y'all have talked a little bit about Nicole

Jones's piece in the New York Times magazine that sparked a lot of discussion and debate, a lot of judgment too. But I think it's really important for us to have these conversations in earnest. We talk about things in big picture policy, but not necessarily how that policy impacts our homes. So like if you're talking about school choice and you want public schools to be funded at the rates, they should, of course we do. But are you sending your kid to that school as is right now with no changes?

Is she going to be on, Nicole? I hope so. We'll see. I know the ask is up. Yes. Well, I don't know that, but I just don't know. Oh, see? What do you know?

I mean, this is an irresponsible ass EP. I just don't even know. I just don't even know. What are you doing? How do you happen with the show? Do you think we've reached the point? Oh, you don't want to answer that question? No.

Wow. Wow. Do you think we've reached the point where people don't actually care if something is true anymore, as long as it confirms what they already believe? I'm sure that's true for some people. But I believe there are a lot more people who've checked out because they do want to know the truth. And they're like, if I can't find it.

the truth here I'm just gonna check out I don't I just wonder how many people approach these shows in good faith like you know what I actually want to learn and I'm willing to change my mind if I am actually presented with facts or do you approach it like I already believe what I believe and I'm standing on that I don't know honestly if it were me I think they would depend on who was the host and who was the panel I'm just not even gonna lie to you like I'm like do I like if Fox News is putting this on like come on like I don't believe anything that y'all got up I'm trying maybe if it was PBS like if it was

something on PBS, I'd be like, maybe NPR, something more neutral, you know? Do you think that neutral is a thing in those? Because I was going to ask you, how will you, or will you guys even try to have that neutral straight through the middle point? Because there's not a lot of news like that. You watch Fox for one thing,

CNN for another. People would argue you watch PBS and NPR for another thing as well too, but yeah, I think this is going to just, it's going to be mostly black. Like, I think that my, if there's a middle of the road for me, it's black. Like, what is right for black people? And like, where do we align? Where can we agree to disagree and is there an end goal that we're trying to reach that's rooted in facts.

I'm sure there will be times where we have other, you know, people, other people of color, maybe white folks on, but right now I want to hit issues that are hardest hitting for us. Reparations, who should get them? Should we use the N-word, you know, school choice? I know you did a donkey of the day on this. I appreciate it. It's great. Now is it just for political season or is it past that?

Well, I hope so. The political season, we always do a big press or big push. Yeah. Then once it's over, we kind of just need some of it. I think the thing. you might appreciate about this is these aren't issues that we're dealing with directly that are on like the ballot, you know, at least not top. Like we don't have a Medicare for All show coming up before the election.

Or should there be Medicare for all? What's really wrong with Medicare? Although I think that's a discussion worth having. I really just want to engage people in factual debate so we can break through not just for voters, but I want people to have like, I want there to be an engaged, not just electorate, but engage citizens. So if we can have some role in that, I think that would be great.

So my question to you, before you go, my other question to you is, how do we know that you are supplying the right facts, right? But sometimes we'll look online and somebody that we think should have the right facts, has it wrong. Or some newscaster or some, you know,

newspaper has the wrong facts. And we're like, we know that's not right, but people are believing it because of where it's coming from. So how do we know that you won't be following the same line that they follow and that actually have the right fact?

Well, two things. The first thing is we have a resident fact checker. So if I say something wrong, fact checker got to get me to. Charlotte, he's not paying them, though. What? I'm not paying them. Well, some of people are paying the fact checker. Are you paying the fact checker?

Yeah, he is because he said people. Look at him here like, or people. The fact checker. Is it an independent fact checker. Yes, the fact checker is not getting paid. Okay. Okay. First of all.

The fact checker, well, we're called. So, Solomon may not. So, he don't know nothing. He don't know anything. Right. So here's the thing. I think the other thing is it's important is I hope people at home start to fact check us. Start to fact check their Instagram.

Start to fact check the news they're reading. So we want people to fact check. That's not true because this, cite your source. What are the sources that you're relying on? So envy, watch. And if we get some wrong, tell us we wrong and then cite your source. But my thing is their independent fact check or somebody that you don't know that they don't know that the other side of this bias. Not how we got to get them on the show.

We got to get them somehow. I mean, obviously that. But to make sure that they're. independent person that they're just checking the facts and not basing off of I lean towards this side or I lean towards that side. Angela will be getting fact check too. Well, here's the most important thing. I think that where we will land is the fact checkers most important role and how they present

themselves online and everywhere else is they want to make sure people know the truth about black history, for example, for this show. So if I'm saying something that's incorrect or just overly inflammatory just to incite the audience, they're going to say, well, I understand why you might. might feel that way, but here are the actual facts. I think that's the one commitment we can make, and hopefully even the panelists come on with that intention in mind. Now, we do have a conservative on this show.

I don't know where he lands on lynching, on modern-day lynching. He may think that lynching is a thing of the past. The facts don't necessarily bear that out to be true. So we'll see. Have you ever repeated something that was wrong? Oh, all the time. And then you go back. You later find out like, oh, damn, that was wrong.

And then you, oh, okay. I used to do it, especially on CNN, I would get a statistic wrong, and I would go on Twitter and be like, I'm so sorry, I said this online, but I really meant 90%, I said 9% or something like that. I don't mind fact checking myself. I definitely do not want to give bad information.

There's a big difference between 9 and 90. I have definitely done it. Talking too fast, yeah. I'll be doing that all the time. And then I'll be like, I meant this. And he'd be like, it doesn't matter what you meant. Your word is your word. And I'm like, how are you going to listen to somebody

that replaces H's for K's? Yeah, you're right. But I mean, some of the stuff he's, be screaming, be like, that's not what it's called. You don't like scream by grits? I do, but I just don't like the way you to hear you say it. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it just sound like you about to spit on me. I don't know.

I don't like to hear you talk, period. All right. Wow, it's not okay. It's not okay. All right. Thank you. Good job, Jess. Cut her off. Shut up. Shut up. Stop. That is so rude. All right, so I don't know exactly

what it was, but I heard something a few months ago right that there were about to be all the news stations were about to be ran by one group. Whatever, right? Like, is that true or is that fake? Oh, she's about the Paramount? Yeah, the Paramount merger, Warner Brothers merger.

That is pretty significant. And I think if it happens, you know, second to state-run media, that could be really scary. Particularly if you look at how this initial group that purchased Paramount began to run CBS News. They put someone in place named Barry Weiss, who is super conservative. One of the first things she did was go into 60 minutes, which is a, you know, 60 minutes. Yeah. which is a source that I normally would have told you I would rely on. They've changed quite a bit.

I think maybe the last credible thing that we saw on there was a little bit was little boozy on there talking about his pardon. So that was his story. I believe his story. He definitely got bopped for $600K for paying for a pardon he didn't get. But I think that if they don't have some barometers in place like an editorial board and other things to ensure that the news remains fair and balanced and trustworthy, factual, they'll continue to have a problem.

Especially, I think, the day that Donald Trump said that he wasn't going to allow political, CNN, or MSNBC into the White House press court, they launched Trump TV, a state-run media. I mean, how close to communism are we right now? So, yeah, it is a real issue. And they need some cultural integration in that whole situation. Who?

That whole merger. They need some... Oh, yeah. But all of these outlets do, really? Absolutely. You know, like there was a commitment post the murder of George Floyd. You know, you all know, you all know all this money flowing opportunities for us. And then they were like, okay, we fired up away from that.

Now we're anti-DI again. That's not good. My final question. If the mission of CITI's source works, right, what do you want somebody to do differently after watching it? I want, so one of the things we're going to do, every time there's a fact check moment, you know, the independent fact checker. hits the buzzer, record scratches, the whole show stops to cite your source. I want everybody to do that

when they're scrolling online. To hear a record scratch, to hear a pause. Like, this can't go on. I'm going to put in the comments that this is wrong. I'm going to put in the community note, this is wrong. In conversation, you know,

when people reference the Willie Lynch letter, you know, maybe they're like, how you know that's real? I want people to stop and really ask the questions that we were taught to ask in school. This shouldn't be that hard for us. And I think if we start

having more earnest conversations, one, will be less prone to canceling somebody just because their opinion is different from ours. And two, agree on the end goal and work backwards from there. That's what I hope happens. When does this launch? When can people start watching it? Yes. So cite your source is at cite your source on YouTube. It will be launching at 9 p.m. Eastern on Wednesday. So we want to get those subscriber numbers up and we definitely want folks to engage. I want it to feel like a town hall where everybody has a role to play. And it'll be on the Native Lamb podcast YouTube page as well. Yes.

Native Lamb Pod and I think in our audio feed too, we want to make sure everybody has access to this. Y'all can post it too. Yes, we're all from Reason Choice Media. No, we definitely go. This is all from Reason Choice Media. It's, yep, well, Native Lambot is a part of it. And then we have some other folks who are very interested in seeing facts out there.

So we're grateful for them too. All right. Well, cite your sources. Check it out this Wednesday at 9. And we appreciate you for joining us. Thanks, y'all. Ms. Angela Rye. It's the Breakfast Club.

Good morning. I'm Melissa Jeltson, every day I wake up, the breakfast club You're all finished or y'all done? I'm Melissa Jeltson, host of the What Happened to Her podcast. We're kicking off the season

with the Sandra Birchmore story, a case the police rode off as a suicide in a snowstorm. Her family never bought it, and the man they suspected wore a badge. You never know who that devil is because he's wearing in disguise. Sometimes it's a police uniform.

And you can get access to all. episodes 100% ad-free with an IHeart True Crime Plus subscription exclusively on Apple Podcasts, available only to IHeart True Crime Plus subscribers. So don't wait, head to Apple Podcasts, search for IHeart True Crime Plus, and subscribe today. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman. Angel Geratana. Jeremy Colhain.

Patrick McDonald. And we're the hosts of the Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists Podcast. The Improvised Character Comedy Podcast where each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of Eurovision participants. And we do a little Halloween sometimes. Does the Pope dress up? He winks on Halloween. He gets right up next to the microphone.

I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other. You never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists every Thursday on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Lisa? Tell them about our new show. a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Yuwano. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s,

I've lived it all. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcasts. The True Crime Comedy Podcasts all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Each week I bring on an amazing guest. Ooh, I scammed them. What? I can talk to you for an hour.

You're a generational yapper like me. That's why I had to make yapping a job. And now you can catch full episodes of my show on YouTube. Start listening to Scam Goddess on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.