The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Anita Kopacz Reveals Her 2nd Book, Connection To The Ancestors + More

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

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He's back with a new book out right now, The Wind on Her Tongue. Ladies and gentlemen, Anita Kopak. Welcome. Thank you, thank you. It is so awesome to be back here. That's right, book two of the Daughters of Three Waters trilogy. Yes, yes, yes.

Tell us what The Wind on Her Tongue is all about. So, The Wind on Her Tongue is about Oya, who is the daughter of Yemeya, whom our first novel, Shallow Waters, is about Yemeya. And so, O about Yemeya. And so Oya is her daughter. And not only in my stories, but in the ancient parables and in the religion of the Yoruba people, the Ifa. And so Oya is the goddess of the wind and storms and so many other things. But I think one of the things that mainstream

might know her as, like Storm the character in X-Men, she is kind of fashioned after Oya. So Oya can like change the weather and bring. So this year, which is 2025, is a number nine year. That's right. Which is Oya's number. Highs all the change. Yes, the end, right?

This is the end, this is when there's a lot of transformation, things are moving fast, and we can tell as soon as 2025 started, right? Like what this year is, and so this is really the energy of Oya. And that was not on purpose that this book was coming out on a year nine. So.

In the opening of the book, it's not like the first chapter. I don't know if it's the forward or the note, but you talk about how like in black communities, we're not really allowed to talk about these like folk lords that other communities and other ethnicities are able to talk about. And it made me think about how like, with your grandma, even with my grandma, certain

things she's like, turn that off. That's demonic or that's not God. But then they have certain things that they lean into. How do you have those conversations with your family? Because you're putting this on the forefront and I'm sure some of your family is like, girl, what are you doing? Absolutely. And the thing is, is that I've had these conversations

way earlier from the beginning. Because I would be like, well, what do you mean? We can't learn about our history. We can't learn about our gods and goddesses, our parables, our stories. Why is it demonic? Who said it's demonic? We know who said it's demonic. And so it so it's like we've, I've definitely.

You mean white people? White people, yeah. Exactly. My grandma and my aunts be saying it, but they got it from somewhere. But they got it from somewhere, right? They got it from somewhere, because it's like it's where our ancestors are from.

It's us, it's like who we are. And so even if you're not gonna practice the religion, you know, like it's like, oh, but can't we know our history? Like, why is it demonic to know our history, to know the stories? And they know them. Like if you think of like some of the, the who do practices, it's like in our families,

like, you know, if you're gonna, the beginning of the year, you wanna have black eyed peas, you know, like exactly. And so it's like, we're doing it. We're doing it. But you know, it's, there's just that, that fine line. But I think more and more people are waking up because it's in us.

It's in us. And like it, a part of it is our power, remembering our power, remembering who we are. And, and so there's not really any stopping. We can burn books, we can do whatever it is. It's inside of us. It's inside of us. And at some point, some of us are gonna remember.

Some of us are gonna write it down, right? And who knows who's gonna be inspired by this book, right? To create more things and remember more things. So. What made you dive into all of this? I know you were here before, you briefly explained, but for people that this is the first time hearing, what made you dive into this part of it? So to me, I felt like Oya, not Oya, Yemeya, like dove into me because I was, I would say

curious, but not like I wasn't practicing the religion or anything, but I had a lot of friends who were, and someone had told me that Yemeya watched over our ancestors as they came over on the slave ships. And I was just like, what? We had a black mermaid watching over us, watching over the souls that jumped off? I was like, what? We had a black mermaid watching over us, watching over the souls that jumped off. And I was like, what is this? I was like, I don't know these stories.

And I'm a curious person. So I was like, I want to learn about this. And so as I was diving in, I just felt so connected. The more and more I learned, the more I felt like I woke up, the more I felt like I was going home the more I felt like I was going home. And I was like, what is this? And so at some point I decided to write the book and as I was writing the book, to me, it felt like for Shallow Waters, it felt like Yemea was sitting at the edge of the bed telling me the story.

And so there were things that I had to look up after to make sure that, you know, these are both historical fiction. And so the history part, I definitely had to like look up, make sure that it all made sense. And of course, you know, the publishers, they helped me with that as well too, to keep me on point but I would say if I just felt such a calling to it and Then what was interesting was when shallow waters came out African ancestry got a hold of me and they're like do you want to see like where your ancestry's from?

I was like, yeah, actually that would be kind of of dope. And it is, it's Yoruba and Hausa. And so I was like, oh, it's because it's in me. That's why I felt so connected. You know, you wrote an article for People Magazine, break it down to parallels between Wicked's, Elphaba, how do you pronounce the name? Elphaba. Elphaba and Oye, and how they defy the gravity

of social norms and expectations, break that down. So when I watched Wicked and I saw Elphaba's character, I was like, oh, this is Oya, right? Like how nobody understands her, how when she gets mad, this power comes out of her, she doesn't understand the power and then someone else has to understand it first, you know, help her to like hone it. And there were so many things how she just stood up against the, like societal norms,

right? And was able to be herself. And she did have to go through her own journey and different relationships in order to do that. So Oya is very similar where she has this power within her of the storm and gathering up, right? The energy of the nature and all of these things and in the beginning it just happens when she's mad, right? And I don't wanna tell the story,

but you know, she learns about herself and about her powers. And what was really cool about what I found out after I wrote that article is that who Elphaba's character is fashioned after, which is Matilda Jocelyn Gage, that's Tilly in Shallow Waters. That's Matilda Jocelyn Gage, that's Tilly in Shallow Waters. Wow. That's Matilda Jocelyn Gage. When I was doing the research and everything, and I was like, I like this woman. She was fighting, she was a white woman,

she was a suffragette, she fought for black and indigenous rights, She fought for even child slavery as far as like trafficking back then. She did so many things. And I was like, I like this woman. So I made her Tilly. And she, that's who Elphaba is fashion after. I had no idea. Now you talk about the 16 truths.

Break that down a little bit. Oh, oh, oh, listen. Okay, I put that onto my Instagram because I'm not a, I would say, I don't know everything about Ifa, right? I know like one of the truths that is very important is know thyself, right? Like really knowing yourself even before you find what Orisha. So the Orishas are like the energies that represent the different, the natural forces in the world. So this is she's a storm weather, Yemea was the ocean, right? And so they're not

necessarily gods and goddesses. We just say that for the purpose here, right? So they're more like spirits. And so even before you really know who's on your head, that's what they will say, who's on your head, like what Orisha rules you, you have to know yourself. And so really connecting to yourself and your ancestors and what you were born for. And so that, you know, to me, it'd be one of like the most important truths in IFA. When you were growing up,

did you know you wanted to be a writer? Oh my gosh. Because you're in the arts. Let me tell you. Just scrolling, I see you a tap dancer, you know, wanted to be a writer? Oh my gosh. Because you're in the arts. Let me tell you. Just scrolling, I see you're a tap dancer. You do so much. Did you know that you wanted to be in the arts? So I was a math and science nerd.

Like I went to UC Berkeley, I went to UC Berkeley with my bestie, Risha Rox here. And she actually did my makeup. Okay. And I did civil engineering so I was very much like math science nerd but I always loved storytelling and I am dyslexic so I actually didn't think I could be a writer like that wasn't really like I was like I can't spell shit, you know, like, I'm like, fuck. That's all of us up here.

Yeah? Okay, good. And so I didn't think I could be a writer until my senior year. They're like, Anita, if you don't take freshman English, you're not gonna graduate. And I was like, yeah, I gotta take freshman English. Freshman English? You got all the way through without doing it?

Yes, cause I had, you know, I was doing crazy math classes, science, all of that. And they're like, you need to take freshman English. You're about to fail for freshman English. You're not going to graduate. And so I took the class, and I fell in love with it. I fell in love with the storytelling and all of that. And so I was like, actually, is this what I want to do?

And I loved learning about the African diaspora, the different places within the diaspora, the people, how are we alike, how are we different, and what wakes up inside of us. Like, you can't really describe what wakes up inside of us when we learn more and more about our true ancestry. Because it's like, you're getting closer and closer to home and there's these energies and people are like, you're glowing, what is that?

And so I feel like that's kind of what happened. And once I hit that, I was like, oh, I'm a storyteller, I gotta figure this shit out. And luckily, the world has turned into a place where I don't have to know how to spell. I want you to go deeper into who Oye is, right? Because you dedicate the book to a lot of your friends who have experienced stillborn births and miscarriages. And Oye is an African goddess who watches over women who have had stillborns and miscarriages. So Oye is an African goddess who watches over women who have had stillborns and miscarriages.

So can you respond on that a little bit? Yes, that just gave me chills because to know that there is an energy or a goddess out there that is watching over women who have lost children. So I've told you about my time when I went to Peru and I did Ayahuaska and San Pedro, right? And so when I did San Pedro, my ancestors came to me. What's San Pedro?

So San Pedro is, I believe it's a cactus and it's a drug. Plant-based medicine. A plant-based medicine. Plant-based medicine. Plant medicine. And so you go into this space, like you just get deeper in touch with the energies around. To me, it felt like I was more in touch with the invisible energies that are around. And so my ancestors came to me and they said, what is happening right now is that so many of us are dealing with

the loss of children, whether it was us or our ancestors down the line who had lost children, lost children through death, through being taken away during slavery. So many people are suffering from that, that we're trying to hold on to everything. So that's why people have clutter. That's why people think they have to keep things and like, as if we can own anything ever, right? And so that's what the ancestors told me. And so then when I found out that Oya watches over women

who had lost babies in any form, right? Like the stillbirths, miscarriages, even abortions, right? Like it's like you've you've lost a child and she helps with the healing and she helps with you know getting us because she is the goddess of the storm, she's the goddess of the storm she's the goddess of transformation so she moves things around so that if there is a healing like that that needs to happen because that's such a deep wound she comes and she blows the shit away so that you can heal. It's crazy because in your writing,

a lot of times I can relate it to things like how you talked about the black eyed peas and the fried chicken and I'm like, oh yeah, that's what they were doing. But with that, I couldn't relate it to anything and I'm like, I don't think I've ever had a conversation in my family just about what happens if you have a miscarriage and how you feel.

I don't even know, I'm sure it has happened but I don't know any close family members that have ever talked to me about it. Yeah, because people don't talk about it and they definitely have, right? Like someone has. It's in all of our families, right? If it hasn't happened to you,

it's like happened to someone who's close to you. And it's a lot of times people just go through it in silence and go to work, right, in a couple days and not be able to deal with it. And we know that if we hide things away, they just keep growing and growing and growing. And so it's so important to have a place and a way to heal from these things. And I'm also a spiritual psychologist. I, so I do deal with people in that way

as far as guiding people through trauma and things like that. I do it with the Goddess Wisdom Council. We have a retreat that's coming up in Costa Rica. So a lot of times I work with women who have experienced some form of sexual trauma. That's one of my things that I work with a lot. And what is interesting with that too is that it's not always directly. Like a woman can be like, oh my gosh I don't remember anything happening to me, but I notice the way I act. It's as if something happened.

So it could be something that she doesn't remember, or it could be something that happened in her family line, because if it did happen to her grandmother, right, like she's passing it down, like what's inside of us is what was in our ancestors. So. Here's, you know, can you break down the parallels that you make with Oya in the black woman trope, angry black woman. And then you talk about duality too, cause you talk about how like the hurricanes are like

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I was actually kind of afraid at first to write about her because I was like, oh, Oya scares me a little bit. She's a beast. She's an unbeatable warrior. Like that's who she is. She's an unbeatable warrior. Like, don't fuck with her. And I was like, oh, I'm a little bit scared

to write about Oya. And then when I started like learning about her and writing about her and listening to her, I was like, oh shit, it's like the angry black woman, like people being afraid of the angry black woman. I was like, she's not angry, she's just powerful. And just cause you can't handle it, right? Just cause they, you know, just cause I couldn't handle it,

right, like from what I thought about her, it was like, no, she is just powerful. And I think it's that misunderstanding that, people misunderstand that. Like a black person, a black woman is just saying what she needs, oh, she's angry, right? She's just telling people that she doesn't like something, oh, she's angry.

And we know other people say that they don't like things all the time. White people, especially white men. Exactly. Do you think that these goddesses possess you when you're writing? Like, are they guiding you? Like, hey, I need you to tell this story about me. So I gotta tell you something because yes, I had an experience like that, so I didn't necessarily feel like that.

So with Yemaya, I felt like she was sitting at the edge of my bed, right? Telling me. With Oya, I wasn't sure. I couldn't quite, I didn't feel like I was possessed. But at the end, when I finished writing, I like the, after I wrote the last word, I was like, let me go downstairs. I put on some music and I started dancing and all of a sudden I just started bawling crying and it felt like she was coming out of me.

Like it was just like, and I don't know where these tears were coming from. It was just like, and I was just like, oh my gosh, was she, I didn't, it didn't feel like it. I don't know, I don't know what it feels like to be possessed, but it didn't feel like it in that way, but it did feel like I was definitely guided. She was telling me the story, she was telling me who needed to be in it. You know, some of the characters I love to work with, with historical figures.

So like Marie Laveau and Mary Ellen Pleasant. So Ellen is named Ellen. Mary Ellen Pleasant is Ellen in the book because sometimes people called her Ellen or Mammy Pleasant. But anyway, when I was looking up Mary Ellen Pleasant, I was like, who is this woman? How come I don't know about her? Before Madam C.J. Walker, she was,

she was the first self-made millionaire woman. And this is not just black women, it's women. She's the first one before Madam C.J. Walker. And I was like, how come I didn't learn about her? Was because she was a voodoo queen, so they don't wanna teach that in school. She was also a madam. That's not how she made like most of her money,

but she co-founded Bank of California, which is now Wells Fargo. She's like, did so many things, invested in like in gold, silver, a lot of real estate. And the thing is, while she was doing this, because of the time, she was pretending that she was a mammy. So she was pretending that she was the help, right? So she would dress up like the help. She had a 30 room mansion. When people came by, she would pretend she was the help. And then she would like serve.

The white men would be talking about the investments they're making, and she would take that and go do her inside training. She was like the spook who sat by the door. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And so she was amazing. And I was like, why?

How come I don't know about her and so when I was studying about her I saw that she studied under Marie Laveau and so that's kind of where I got all of the characters and Marie Laveau oh my gosh when I went to New Orleans to learn about learn more about her I had a tour guide and he was like so what do you guys think when I say voodoo? And we're like, okay African religion, you know, honoring ancestors and he was like, oh thank God! I don't have to like, you know, break down what it is because he's like, most people you say voodoo they're like dark

magic, you know, evil, like all this stuff. Well, I'm from South Carolina. We say roots. Yeah, roots. Roots on you. Yes, exactly, right? And so, so when I learned about her through his eyes, you know, she's, she's a healer, right? She's, most of the people who have actually met her and talked about her, they were saying how she helped them and how she was a healer. And then, you know, in stories and in pop culture,

she's still like seen as like a voodoo queen who drank baby's blood, but none of that. I mean, as far as I know, none of that happened. When I read Shallow Waters, you know, four or five years ago, whenever it was, I didn't know it was gonna end up being a trilogy. Did you know that? I didn't know either.

Okay. But listen, people kept going, it's a trilogy. And I was like, no, no, it's done. The story finished. It's done. So people said that to you? So many people, they're like, it's a trilogy. It's a trilogy.

Did you say that to me? I don't remember. Why, I wonder why a trilogy? I wonder why. I don't know. Why, I wonder why a trilogy? I wonder why? I don't know. Why doesn't it keep going on? So, well, the daughter of three waters. Let me tell you where that comes from.

Because in Cuba, usually you have just the two orishas on your head, a male and a female. And so that would be who like kind of rules you or rules kind of the energies of your life. And they have one thing in Cuba where if it feels like you have Yemea and Oshun, they'll say, oh, that's a daughter of two waters because you can have that in Cuba. Everywhere else they don't really have that. And so I was like, oh well Oya feels like water for me too. So that's why I made that up, daughter of three waters. So do you know what the third installment is gonna be about? I do.

Oh okay, so it already came to you. I do, I do. You're gonna share it in the chat. I mean, most people probably will figure out that it is Oshoon. So it will be Oshoon. And I do have the story, but I haven't. Is Oshoon sitting on the edge of your bed? She is. She is.

Wait, okay, wait. I'm trying to think if I should be sharing this yet. Probably not. Okay, let's focus on the one on our tongue. It's out right now. You said something in your dedication that I find interesting too. You said, you said to your mom, dad, and sisters

for putting up with you as a child, then you shouted out your children for putting up with you as an adult. Is there anything from your childhood that you have bought with you into adulthood that made you say that? I can't imagine you were not like this as a child. I was definitely like this as a child. that you have bought with you into adulthood that made you say that adulthood and parenthood. I was definitely like this as a child.

I mean, I was very introverted though. I was quiet, but I was very much in my own world, like in this magical world all the time. And for my kids, I'm kind of more like one of the kids. It's not necessarily how I thought I would adult. I thought I was gonna be a little bit more strict. My mom, she's amazing, but she was definitely strict with us as well.

Mom, I love you. That's... She's amazing. But you know, I couldn't fuck around, right? I thought I was gonna be like that. And you know, I tried to be strict for one second and to see like my kid, the way they responded to it, I was like, nope.

They don't take you serious, huh? No, they don't take me serious. Are they artists as well? They are, well, my two girls are, and then my son is math, science. Got you. Yeah, yeah. And my oldest one, Sadie, she's 20, she's at NYU, she's like doing film.

And then Teala is a senior in high school and really into singing. She's actually, yo, which I gotta talk to you about, she is writing the songs for Shallow Waters, the musical. And I like, she came in, you know, I I like she came in you know I was like she's 17 year old I was like okay yeah she's like I have a song that I want to sing to you. I had chills I was like oh let's do it Lin-Manuel where are you? So you want Shallow Waters to be a musical? Yo! When she sang the things I was like yo

yeah you don't even know I was like like, okay, we're doing this. Let me find Lin-Manuel. So she's into like, definitely into the arts. And then my son Mayan is math, science. He told me he can't imagine a world where he's not figuring something out, like math-wise. So they're all like parts of me, right? Like, yeah. But you know, it's interesting

because when you talk about these books being filmed, if you've ever read Shallow Waters, if you read The Wind on her tongue, you're going to feel like you're, you know, watching a motion picture. Like that's how much this stuff pops out, you know, on the page. So I know that's the next evolution of these stories.

Yeah, they're going to be on the big screen or the small screen. They're going to be on the screen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something you said about Voodoo. What point in the world did that switch? Because like, even when you're talking about it, I'm like, oh, saying this word so much is like a no no. Yeah. Especially around like your older older. Oh, yeah. When did it switch from like these people were healers roots

to this is bad, stay away from it, you're possessed and you can't watch scary movies? Like when did that switch? So that switched all during slavery when the Africans were enslaved. So they needed to keep us away from our religions, they needed to keep us away from our spirituality, from our language.

And so in order to do that, they demonized it needed to keep us away from our spirituality, from our language. And so in order to do that, they demonized it. And not only that, if you practice it, a lot of people were killed or beaten. And so all of these things were like, just kind of like, I guess, beaten into us, right? And then there was a point where the fact that it survived, right, like what you resist persists, right? Like you can't beat shit out of people. It just doesn't work. Like the more you try to do that,

the more the person becomes stronger in that. And so it's like these spirituality, the religion, all these things survived these, these times and a lot of times they kind of hid it behind Catholicism because Catholicism works with saints, right? And so each candle, right?, like would be a certain saint, but there'd be like, oh yeah, but this is actually Yemaya behind this saint. And so they were able to work with their religion

through Catholicism. All right. Well, the new book, The Wind on Her Tongue, is out right now. That's right. Make sure you pick it up. It's available via Black Privilege, Simon and Schuster Publishing, man, and you know, Anita, how do you feel for your second book? You know, you wrote Shallow Waters.

How does it feel to have another book published? It feels so good. Like, I feel so grateful to you. Like, the fact that you saw me, you recognize me, you recognize the work, you recognize the words that needed to be out there, the stories that needed to be out there. I feel so grateful that I'm able to get these stories out into the public. And I would say that's how I feel. Deep, deep gratitude. Well, if you're looking for some escapism

rooted in some realism, the Wind on Her Tongue by Anita Kopatch is available right now everywhere you buy books. And the audio book is read by your sister. It is, it's out. Oh, I was listening to it this morning. Yes, the audio book is read by my sister Michelle Kopatch and also shout out to Yadi for bringing us together.

Absolutely, salute to Yadi. And she wanted to try to come too, but she wasn't able to so yes. And tonight we will be at Greenlight Bookstores. Yes. 730 p.m. it's on Fulton Street. In Brooklyn. Yes. It's on Fulton Street so we'll be there tonight at 730 p.m. having a conversation about the wind on her tongue so we'll see y'all there tonight. All right. Yes Greenlight Bookstore in Brooklyn 730 p.m. Pick up the book now and we'll see y'all there tonight. All right. That's Brain Light Bookstore in Brooklyn, 730 PM. Pick up the book now,

and we appreciate you for joining us this morning. It's Nita Copax, The Breakfast Club, good morning. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Consider this is a daily news podcast, and lately the news is about a big question. How much can one guy change?

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