The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Ava DuVernay & Aunjanue Ellis-Taylor Speak On 'Origin' Film, Intentional Filmmaking + More

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

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DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God. Being here next to all of you guys, it's really big. It's one of my favorite shows to do. Just because y'all always keep it 100, y'all keep it real. But what better place than here? I think everybody should go on The breakfast club and start with that if you want to shake it up. Good morning, USA. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

Charlamagne the God. Peace to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. what day it is Hump Day Good morning That's right How y'all feel out there? It's Wednesday

It's Hump Day It's middle of the week Good morning That's right I feel blessed, black, and highly favored, man Happy to be here I was riding in the work Listening to a great podcast

One of my favorite podcasts The Pivot Podcast With Ryan Clark and Fred Taylor and Channing Crowder, and they had Dez Bryant on. Man, such a powerful, inspiring conversation, man. I love to hear black men just being vulnerable. What was he discussing?

Oh, everything. I mean, his upbringing and, you know, his issues. Not issues, but how he came up under his mother, because, you know, his mother had him when she was 13. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, he was just explaining that dynamic and that relationship, how he breaks, you know, generational curses in his own family.

Like, it's just good. It's good to hear Dez Bryant in such a great space, man. I love a great conversation. That's a great conversation. That's right. Go check that out. After you listen to The Breakfast Club, of course, this morning. Okay.

Yes. All right. Well, we got some special guests joining us this morning. Oh, yes, we do. Speaking of some great storytellers. We have Anjane Ellis. Anjanoo. Anjanoo.

Anjanoo Ellis. I said Anjanoo. Anjanoo Ellis and Ava DuVernay. They'll be joining us. Origin, new flick, premieres January 19th in select theaters. So we're going to be talking about that. Now, I've had the privilege of already seeing Origin. Let me tell you what Origin is based on.

If you've ever read the book Cast, great by isabel wilkinson read it a few years ago it's based off this book when i when i when i heard that they were doing a movie based off this book i was like how are they going to make a movie based off cast like if it's not a documentary because the book is just full of facts and research but she did it uh through the lens of isabel wilkinson getting the idea to write the book cast and the process of her writing the book and that's who uh ajnu plays she plays isabel wilkerson in the movie correct yes so we'll be talking to them this morning correct and like you said it's uh it's based off uh i guess different things that happened in the in the

past what six seven years no what's the it research? No. What was it? The book, what, the cast? Yeah. The movie? What is the research on? It is based off the system that we live in and how the system of race was developed in the country, in America. Okay. Yes. All right, so we'll discuss with them.

And I said six years, but I'm bugging because they go way back to slavery days. They go way back to the Holocaust. I mean, it was sparked. A lot of the idea was sparked by the death of Trayvon Martin. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I meant.

All right. Well, we'll kick it with them in a little bit, but let's get to some front page news when we come back. Teslin Figueroa will be joining us at Oak Move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

Let's get in some front page news. Morning, Tiz. Good morning. Happy Wednesday, DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. Peace, Ted. Let's jump right into it. Let's talk Nikki Haley. Yeah, once again, it wouldn't be campaign season if nobody was bringing up slavery and racism. So Nikki Haley was asked on Fox News if she belonged to a racist party, but she answered about racism in America. Take a listen.

Are you a racist party? We're not a racist country, Brian. We've never been a racist country. Our goal is to make sure that today is better than yesterday. Are we perfect? No. I know I faced racism when I was growing up, but I can tell you today is a lot better than it was then now her campaign affirmed her statement and said that america has always had racism but america has never been a racist country a little bit of contradiction if it's all if you've always had racism how can it not be a racist country you know what's so interesting about that uh that that that whole exchange we've heard that before you know senator tim scott know, said that a few years ago.

And guess who agreed with him? Vice President Kamala Harris. Guess who also agreed with him? My OG, Jim Clyburn. And I remember Vice President Kamala Harris saying that, you know, America is not a racist country, but we need to talk openly about the racism in America. So it's kind of the same rhetoric. It's a racist country. Duh, but I'm just saying how it's just the same rhetoric i just don't you know it's just it's

just strange to me how we don't hold you know everybody to the same level of account of accountability because the problem is no politician knows how to talk about race honestly in this country none of them regardless of what side they're on that's right and my confusion is every year you like come on candidates let's get it together let's that should be the first thing in training shout out out to my training, push the line training. We train about 500 people every year for to run for office. Maybe they just need to start knowing how to answer this question right out the gate. Rhonda Santus also was asked about her comments on CNN. And this is what he had to say.

Do you agree that the U.S. has never been a racist country? Well, the U.S. is not a racist country, and we've overcome things in our history. You know, I think the founding fathers, they established a set of principles that are universal. Now, they may not have been universally applied at the time, but I think they understood what they were doing. I don't understand why people are mad,

are scared to say it's a racist country. Of course, it's not back when my dad was in school where he had to use different bathrooms and different water fountains, but it's still a racist country. Listen it's not back where my dad was in school where he had to use different bathrooms and different water fountains but it's still a racist country like listen nobody talks about race honestly when the elected officials don't talk about race honestly because a lot of republicans are racist and democrats are just afraid to talk about race democrats democrats advocate for you know anti-racist policies but then they'll turn around and say things like america's not a racist country because they're afraid to turn off these hypothetical imaginary swing voters.

And just to be clear, as we know, there's some racism going on in the Democrat Party as well. But it's about the overtly racist racism that you see on the other side. Let's make sure we put that point out there now. It bothers me. Like when I when I hear somebody like Nikki Haley say that, I expect that from Republicans. Like it bothers me more when I hear Democrats say things like that, because you can't lay out all these examples of systemic racism and then turn around and say America isn't a racist country because you just dismiss your own position. Sure, sure. But again, like you said, they're trying to make sure they piss off. They don't upset those hypotheticals. Right. That are not voting for you and keep telling you over and over

they're not voting for you uh dr ben carson also he chimed in this week in iowa uh letting everybody know that hey we shouldn't be ashamed about america's history uh so take a listen to that if there's anything unique about the united states and slavery it's that we had so many people who were vehemently opposed to it that we fought a bloody civil war to get rid of the evil institution. That's what we should teach our children. Our history is nothing to be ashamed of. There's good, there's bad, and there's ugly, as there is in every society inhabited by human beings, which is why we need a savior. If you if you are Republican or Democrat, if everybody in the Republican Party was was unified and they all collectively said America is a racist country and it's our job to fix it.

If everybody in the Democratic Party was unified and they all collectively said America is a racist country and it's our job job to fix it it wouldn't be an issue and it would be an honest conversation but folks are scared to do that because they know nobody in the party will have their back if a republican says that they know nobody in the party gonna have their back if a democrat says that they know nobody in the party gonna have their back did you i wanted to just say again on ronda sanders did you hear him say uh it's universal uh the founding father is meant for it to be universal but it wasn't universal i'm gonna be honest with you i i i'd be i'd be tuning ronda sanders out that's what you were playing in the before being yes i heard ben i didn't i didn't even i didn't even hear the wrong totally tuned him out okay i didn't hear ron at

all i can remember ben saying we need a savior i I didn't hear Ron at all. All right. That is front page news. Now, what are we talking about next hour, Tess? Next hour, we're going to talk about AI. Charlamagne, you've mentioned many, many times how AI will be spreading misinformation during the campaign. And they said they're going to do something about it. And then just a quick update on the IRS and getting your taxes ready. All right.

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It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Ray, Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlamagne. Lizzy, what up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest.

I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. We made it. We live. Hello, who's this? DJ Envy, what's going on?

This is Front Page O. Front Page O, what up? Get it off your chest, bro. Hey, man, real quick. What up, Charlemagne? Peace, King. Peace, peace. Hey, real quick.

I'm a truck out here in these streets, man. So this one right here is for the professional driver. Hey, look, man. In the name of Diddy, we got to stop the **** out here because here's what's happening. You're a professional driver and I got a lot of pedals in my truck. That means I go faster than the average. If a lot of these guys are locked off at 65 or 63 miles an hour, eat that. Take it up with your company.

But don't throw your body in the lane of a truck that's flying down the line here. Now, it sounds critical, Solomon. I know you always complain that truckers don't drive it like it's a Lexus. But at the end of the day, it's in their best interest we keep it moving and stay out your lane. No, I do not like y'all driving trucks like they cars. And by the way, if y'all was actually paying attention to other people on the road, which I don't think y'all are, I think y'all hit those left turns and those right turns, and y'all expect us to see y'all and get out y'all way.

Y'all ain't looking out for nobody else. I refuse to believe that. Not the way y'all drive. Impossible. We can clearly see everything. 360 all over. We got this. I will say this, though.

We're avoiding you guys just to keep it moving. I see a lot of... If you guys get mad at when a dick take you and say, traffic cop, and get in the lane, you're going to get yourself killed. I'm never doing that. I'm never doing that with a truck. But I just wish that y'all didn't treat trucks like they were just regular old Priuses. Yeah, but people do, too, though.

People treat trucks like they don't exist, or the truck could just hit the brake dumb fast or something because I see people cutting trucks off and then trying to brake check trucks and all types of wild stuff. And I'm like, all right. All right. You think you're going to win that battle?

Okay. You're not going to win. 80,000 pounds up your ass. You can't win. Stop doing that. Yeah, I don't know who's doing that. Whoever doing that is stupid. All right, front page.

But please, stop driving your goddamn... You got it. And, Faze, this is for you. There you go. There you go. Please, don't listen to him. Stop driving your trucks like it's a regular car, please. Get it off your chest.

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Hello, who's this? This is Rashad. Rashad, what's up? Get it off your chest. So, I've been in Busta Rhymes' DMs for like a minute now, about a year, right? And I've been sending him some beats that I've been making. I was just up until like 5 a.m. yesterday sending him track after track after track. He replied once, sent a heart, another came about it.

Just send him some more tracks. He hasn't opened it. I'm hoping maybe he hears this, you know, maybe he opens it. What are you talking about? So you mad you've been DMing Busta Rhymes beats and he hasn't opened up your DM nor has he responded? No, he did respond once because I did it about a year ago.

What was his response? He sent love. He was like, yo, I see what you're doing. I love it. But I misunderstood his post. He wanted to work with artists, but it was more of a promotional type thing. And I thought he just wanted to like, well, maybe anybody, but I didn't have the money. Maybe he's listening to your beats and he me in anybody, but I didn't have the money. What's up? Maybe he listening to your beats and he didn't hear nothing that he liked so far. Maybe not.

But, hey, I'm still at it. And I'm still sending him something. I just want him to hear it. Maybe it was just the wrong time. No, no, no. I think the last thing you said is true. Maybe it's just the wrong time. But you know what?

You got to have a DJ Khaled level of annoyance. annoyance so yeah if you feel like he's paying attention keep sending them beats but guess what if you send artists beats and they don't uh reply to you on social media they don't have to no like they don't have to they might not like it i'm not mad about it but i hope maybe he hears it but also you know it's you, Busta might not be in his DMs but he has a bunch of people around him sending it to Spliff, sending it to his manager, sending it to his A&R,

sending it to everybody around him, sending it to his DJ, sending it to everybody in Busta because all you need is one person to hear it and say, yo, that beat is dope. Let me give it to Busta and see if he like it. Well, let me ask you another question.

Why Busta? Why Busta? Why not reach out to some of these artists that's, you know, young and on the come up who might be that's, you know, young and on the come up who might be paying attention, you know, to fresh beats and want some new beats? Like, you know, Busta's... Busta Rhymes, I'm sorry, but he's one of my favorite artists and always will be.

Oh, so you need something bucket list. I want... What's that? I said Busta's on your bucket list. 100%. Oh, so you're not trying... You're not really trying to get on. You just want Busta to hear your music. No, I mean... Oh, no, the goal, of course, is to get on. You just want Busta to hear your music.

I mean, oh, no. The goal, of course, is to get on. I'm not. This isn't for nothing. I want an opportunity out of this. But, no, if anything, if you just gave me an opportunity or just gave me some feedback or anything, I wouldn't be world. Or do you hear Busta on your beats?

How old are you, brother? I'm 28. 28. Okay. Yeah, I would say keep doing it. And like Charlamagne said, I love Busta, but I would give it to a bunch of different artists. Because, you know what I mean? You never know what artists will like your beats or reply or will use your beats.

And then maybe that'll get to your bucket list where you want to work with Busta one day. You're right. Say what? All right, brother. All right. Appreciate y'all. Peace. Peace.

Hello, who's this? Yo, yo, it's Rico. Tell it. Rico, what up? Get it off your chest. Hey, what's up, fellas? I just want y'all opinion on something. Yes, sir.

Now, me personally, I do think that America is a racist country. It started that way from the beginning. So I don't know how they saying that, but just to play devil's advocate. White devil's advocate. Yeah, white devil's advocate. Let's go there Rob You know how if you go to a bar And they sell food

They still consider it a bar But it's not a restaurant What do you think What if that's the way they trying to Air quote portray it at I don't really understand the analogy If I'm being honest with you sir Like alright let's say you go to a bar.

And then next thing you know, it's like a corner bar or whatever, but they got like chicken wings, et cetera, et cetera. They got finger food. They saying America is the bar. There's no racism in here, but there is racism in the country. Yeah, but that's like saying there's no food in the bar. There is food in the bar. Right, that's what I'm saying. There's no food in the restaurant, but there's no food in the bar. There is food in the bar. You don't, you don't, you don't, you don't tell it a restaurant, but it's still food.

Right. My brother, my brother, here's the reason America's a racist country. America's a racist country is because it's rooted in systemic racism. Like, like you got people every day waking up fighting for racial equity. You know what I mean? Like in, in, in, in every, in every way possible. It's just a systemic racism and structural racism in the very foundation of america it's not just it's not just you know a person here or there who is prejudiced against

black people it is systemic and structural racism in the very foundation of of america oh no i absolutely believe that because that's how it all started like we didn't voluntarily come over here i mean it's still going it's in every industry it's in the healthcare industry it's in you know the judicial system like it's literally in every industry right so that's what i'm so is the united states a racist country it is yes and we've been having some long overdue awakenings on systemic racism. And, you know, we're going to keep fighting until we break these structures down.

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up. Now, when we come back, we got to discuss Diddy. You know, Diddy was suing his liquor company, Diageo, and it seems like they reached a settlement. We'll talk about it when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Diageo and it seems like they reached a settlement we'll talk about it when we come back it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club I love some

good drive by hate in the morning futar guy Brandon Brandon is one of our producers brands a producer right yes and you got awesome come here Brandon show me what I walk by fast and hit him, too. I just hit him and killed him. Hit him with what? What'd you say? Brandon got the... What kind of J's are those, Brandon? What kind of J's are those? These are 11s. These are 11s.

The 11s. The white and black patent leather 11 J's, right? What's wrong with the Concord? The Concord. I walk by and I go, yo, them J's clean, but they fake. You got fake J's? Yeah, they fake. These are ordered all the time.

Nah, don't try to show we used to work on Canal Street by Canal Street I guess that's we got him from cuz they sell a lot of the face you know I can see the ass crack in his Jordan man I thought no his Jordan is Jordan got a ass crack in it that's how I know they not real they what they clean though they look fresh. You stupid. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Diddy.

Rumor has it. Rumor has it. Call out a name or you gossiping or you chatty patty. I'm gossiping. This is the rumor report. I mean, I guess we on The Breakfast Club. This is where the tea spills, right? Right.

Now, Diddy and Diageo settled seven months after Diddy accused Diageo of racism and underinvesting in his liquor brands. Now, Diageo is the parent company, kind of like if you look at it like a record label, like an artisan to a record label. So they usually handle distribution. They handle promotion. They usually handle marketing. And Diddy was upset and saying some of the other brands that they have, they do more for and they don't do the same for mine. So they reached an agreement and yesterday diageo said uh mr combs has withdrawn all his allegations about diageo

and will voluntary dismiss his lawsuits against diageo with prejudice uh diageo and mr combs have no ongoing business relationship either with respect to serac vaca or delion tequila which diageo now solely owns. So Diddy has nothing to do with Ciroc and DeLeon anymore? Not anymore, no. So basically they either bought him out or settled the lawsuit, basically. Correct.

I wonder if Diddy wasn't dealing with everything he's dealing with right now, would they have stayed in business with him? No. Because he was trying to get out beforehand, remember? Was he trying to get out or remember he was he trying to get out or was he just trying to you know well he said get them to honor their contract because if you don't remember remember hove did the same thing with bacardi but they're still in business together

and hove won his lawsuit you know i mean so i just i mean i just wonder what this was before all that though remember before all that they wanted out they were trying to find a way out of it you know no i don't think they were trying to find a way out he was just suing them yeah yeah i mean he was just suing them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was just suing them. And then remember, their response was, you know, even though, you know, he's trying to turn a simple business dispute into a claim of racism. But Hove was different, right? Because Hove never claimed that he never claimed racism.

He just claimed that they were undervaluing his company and they had to revalue the company, which is different than saying somebody's being racist, especially in today's workplace and today's business two different approaches i think they both were trying to get to the same goal though yeah you know i just wanted i just wondered if diddy wasn't going through everything he's going through could they have you know settled that and then still stayed in business together i don't know good question now if you were looking forward to that drake and j cole tour well it looks like you're gonna have to wait a little longer it It's all a blurred tour. It's being postponed.

Over your Eli in the back. You know, he's a huge Drake fan. He's so upset. He was tearing this morning when he walked in. Makeup runner. It was supposed to start January 18th in Denver. But now they're saying the tour will now start on February 2nd in Tampa Bay, Florida. February 2nd?

Yep. Black History Month? Yep, yep, yep. They should both start in like the middle of Black History Month. Yo, shut up, Florida. February 2nd? Yep. Black History Month? Yep, yep, yep. They should both start in like the middle of Black History Month. Yo, shut up, man. No, I'm just saying. Halfway through? Just halfway through?

Half of Black History Month, they should start. Oh my goodness. And lastly, Charlemagne came in this morning talking about Dez Bryant. He recently appeared on an episode of the Pivot podcast. Oh, so powerful, man. And they were having a conversation about breaking generational curses. And this is some of the things that he was saying let me read something it's been on my phone for five since i met y'all i'd probably be like six years you know just say uh break break generational curses quit yelling at your kids before they go to bed and inspect

them sleep well quit yelling at your kids in the morning right after they wake up before school inspect them to have a good day you set set the tone for your children. You set the tone for your voice. They will always remember in their heads. You become their inner voice. Don't be their inner critic. Speak life. Speak love. Speak bravery, kindness, and hope. Speak wisdom and truth. Most of all, listen to your your children i never had none of that i get that to mind and that's my number one priority that's i follow that that's how i break it and um and i do it i live it i live it man drop all the clues bonds for des brian man salute to everybody at the pivot man you know ryan clark fred taylor channing crowder that that conversation

i don't know if y'all have listened to the whole thing yet, but it's so powerful. You know, I always say, man, you got to remember, if you didn't come from a healthy family, make sure a healthy family comes from you. And I think that as a parent, you know, we all struggle with that. We had the conversation yesterday about, you know, how do you discipline your kids when, you know, they run up $10,000 on your credit card or whatever it is. Like, I don't spank my children in any way, shape, or form. So you do end up raising your voice or yelling sometimes. And you do never feel good about that because you remember all of those times you got yelled at when you was young. Now, I don't call my kids names and all that kind of stuff like that.

But I definitely used to. My dad used to definitely call my name name i don't even remember that well i do remember what just tell us one um i think when you just call your kids stupid oh stupid you know i'm saying you call your kids stupid like that can that can yeah stuff like that can stick with them i don't know what i mean especially especially when they're young like i think they can internalize that and you know believe that so like everything he said is true like you know you want to be you don't want to be you don't want your child your voice to be the voice in your child's head that's their inner critic yeah you know i mean i do think that you have to discipline your

children but you in my family we explain why just so they don't think that we're just yelling for no reason or getting upset for no reason but every night before my kids go to sleep you know me and my wife we kiss them we love them we tell them how much we we appreciate them and we have like a most of the times we do pray and in the morning you know uh i know you do it you speak to your daughters every morning i speak to my kids every morning before they go to school just to say just to give them that that positive conversation before they leave in the day that to always let them know that that mommy and daddy love them and we got their back yeah i think we forget that we're like the first generation that has the luxury of actually healing and i think sometimes we forget you know a lot of the things our parents were

going through and they projected a lot of their issues onto us so the pain and the hurt they might have been dealing with, they projected onto us. So you just got to make sure you're not doing that. You got to make sure that, you know, whatever you're going through in your personal life, you're not projecting onto

your children. Which is very difficult at times because people are stressed out. There's so much going on in this world, but you just got to remember that what you're going through, you don't want to push that to your kids. And if your parents are still alive,

I would say have those conversations to understand why. I six o'clock this morning my dad texted me to make sure i made it to work all right because the roads were icy and nasty and he does that each and every morning to just make sure and that gives me that that positive feeling each and every morning i think we all we all got to remember the fourth agreement for don miguel ruiz which is always do your best and remember what dad bz Bryant said just now. Go find that clip, write those words down, and constantly repeat them to yourself if you're a parent. And most importantly, like I always tell y'all, go do the work on yourself. Go sit down with a therapist. Go sit down with a psychiatrist.

Go do the work on yourself so you can deal with whatever pain and trauma you got going on so you don't project that onto your children. All right. Well, that is your rumor report. Now, when we come back, we got front page news. Teslin Figaro will be joining us at Oak Movies, The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired?

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There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country?

My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.

We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going.

That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know,

follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally

that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

What's up, y'all? This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone.

Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know?

I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, he was called a woman. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hola, mi gente. It's Honey German, and I'm bringing you Gracias, Come Again, the podcast where we dive deep into the world of Latin culture, musica, peliculas, and entertainment

with some of the biggest names in the game. If you love hearing real conversations with your favorite Latin celebrities, artists, and culture shifters, this is the podcast for you. We're talking real conversations with our Latin stars, from actors and artists to musicians and creators sharing their stories, struggles, and successes. You know it's going to be filled with chisme laughs and all the vibes that you love. Each week, we'll explore everything from music and pop culture to deeper topics like identity, community, and breaking down barriers

in all sorts of industries. Don't miss out on the fun, el te caliente, and life stories. Join me for Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German, where we get into todo lo actual y viral. Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. What up, Tiz? What's going on, DJ Envy? Good morning, Charlamagne Tha God, Breakfast Club family. Let's jump right into it. Let's talk about ChatGPT.

So we've been talking about this. We've been talking about AI and how misinformation will be on the rise this year, and particularly with elections in the 2024 election season. Now, they have decided to roll out a plan to prevent its tools from being able to spread misinformation as voters prepare to cast their ballots. It said it will ban people from using the technology to create chatbots that impersonate real candidates or governments to misrepresent how voting works or to discourage people from voting. It said that they will use more research to get this done.

They understand that it will be very persuasive and powerful, and it will not allow users to build applications for the purposes of political campaigning or lobbying. Starting early this year, OpenAI said it will digitally watermark AI images that will be created so that you'll be able to tell if it is an AI image. This will permanently mark the content with information about its origin, making it easier to identify whether an image that appears elsewhere on the web was created by an AI tool. I don't believe it. I got to see it to believe it. I really do. You don't believe what?

That they'll do it i don't believe that they can watermark the stuff because why don't why don't they do that now with fake content yeah i don't i don't think they can i don't think they can either there's so much fake content out there now like literally it's so much fake content how come they can't watermark it now and they have all these different things that they try like they try they have these machines that you could put into your i guess a chat gT type of forum where you can see if something is real or not. Or, you know, there's things that you can tell if it's made up or not. But, you know, they'll find ways around it like they find ways around everything.

Not to not to mention humans don't care. Humans will still take some of those same watermarked AI stuff and present it as facts. Right. I've already told you all the 2024, you know, in 2024, the presidential election here, the presidential election in South Africa, this year is going to be so full of misinformation. And I know for a fact, I can't say I know for a fact, but I personally believe none of that stuff is going to work because nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining. And folks are not searching for truth. They're searching for content. They don't care about what that content is. It does as long as it gets them engagement.

So I can take those same watermarked ais and still present them who gonna really be paying attention to the watermarks nobody but you know that's the sad thing about it is even when people look things up sometimes what they're looking up seems to be real and it's fake so they think that they're actually doing the research but they're researching things that don't exist or not true you know which is difficult and it's hard to really get it it's almost gonna have to get back to the old days of encyclopedia and i know some of you are like what the hell is an encyclopedia but it had to be something where you honestly know it's real because sometimes you google things and it's not real yeah no that was the point i was gonna bring up even if they

watermark it with a big stamp across it saying this is fake they still just are still gonna believe it because again remember we talked about this yesterday people want something to believe in even if that's a lie in addition to that we know people don't read the entire article they read the headline we know people don't read the caption they just look at the picture so even with a big watermark i would like to see the watermark by the way to at least try to do something but ultimately will it make a difference if people want to believe a lie and what happens when somebody takes takes a video right like somebody takes a video that we know is the truth. Like, it's literally a factual thing that we all know, but they take that watermark and put, this is fake on it.

That's going to make people be like, you can take that watermark and put it on anything. That is true. So people are going to stop believing the watermark. They're going to look at the watermark and say, that's fake. That's fake, yeah. I'm telling you. Yeah, because you'll be able to duplicate the watermark i'm sure i promise you man it's all bad it's good it's and at the end of the day i'm still a gardener on my wikipedia well you are i'm not a

gardener it's really over you can't put the toothpaste back into youtube it's really over i'm telling you i don't feel like none of this is gonna work but hey man i'm not mad at them for trying yeah at least they're trying well i wanted to give a quick update on the IRS. Folks who are getting a return, start getting ready to get your taxes returned. Those who got to pay taxes always wait until the last minute. But those who want to get going, they will be accepting your IRS submissions January 29th. And I'm not going to start processing that right away, but they will be accepting it. They said that the annual incomes of people 79 000 are less will be able to file for free so they'll start getting that information out the agency said it

expects 128 million individual tax returns this year to be filed by the april 15th tax deadline okay and then one other random health study i haven't had a chance to do this in a while but i love this kind of stuff. I'm a nerd. Did you know that men are more forgetful than women? It is a scientific fact. So I'm sure you guys always ask your wife to remember different things and want to throw this out here. That numerous studies dedicated to comparing the memory abilities of men and women consistently prove that men are more forgetful than women. A study published in the Quarterly Journal journal of experimental psychology hypothesized this is due to the varying brain structures of men and women the hippocampus is a part of the brain

associated with the memory and it decreases faster in men than women are we really forgetful or we just pretend to forget huh what'd you say i think you do both exactly what'd you say if you huh you can't hear if you huh you can hear. If you're hung, you can hear. All right. Well, that is your front page news. Thank you, Tess. Absolutely. And make sure you subscribe to Teslin Figaro's podcast, The Scraped Shot, No Chaser podcast on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network.

And follow at Teslin Figaro on all social media platforms. All right. When we come back, Anjanue Ellis and Ava DuVernay will be joining us. Their movie, Origin, premieres January 19th. And we're going to talk to them all about it. I don't think people realize how good this movie Origins is. If you've ever read the New York Times bestselling book cast by Isabel Wilkerson,

Origin is based on the book cast. Well, not based on the book, but based on the book. We'll discuss. Yeah, and we just have to say this. We have to support our own. We have to support. When we do these type of movies, we have to go. We have to support. If we can't, we got to support our own like we have to support when when we do these type of movies we have to go we have to support if we can't we gotta buy a ticket you know you're talking about uh color purple that came out about a month ago you talk about book of clearance that came out

what a week ago listen everything you're saying sounds good but these people ain't gonna listen these negroes is not gonna listen okay color purple made 55 million dollars with 140 million dollar budget uh book of clearance had a 40 million dollar budget made three million dollars with a hundred and forty million dollar budget uh the mclaren's had a 40 million dollar budget made three million dollars this weekend these new girls ain't listening we just talked well how beyonce do we we we see we supported beyonce right oh beyonce ain't got no movies renaissance renaissance renaissance actually did better than both those movies damn all right well we'll talk to them when we come back, so don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining us this morning. Yes, indeed. We have Ava DuVernay and Anjanay Ellis-Taylor. Welcome. Hello. Anjanay.

Anjanay. Anjanay Ellis-Taylor. Welcome. Good morning. How do y'all feel today? How y'all feeling? Glad to be here with y'all. Black and blessed. That's right. That's right. Blessed, black and highly favored. That's right. We're talking about a new movie, Origin, which is in theaters January 19th.

It's based on the book cast by Isabel Wilkerson. And I loved the book. I loved the movie. But when I heard you was doing a movie, Ava, I had no idea how you was going to turn it into a film. Yeah. So what gave you the idea that you used to make it the... Do I call it a scripted narrative? Yeah, yeah. It's a drama. Well, break down how you heard about Cass. What made you read the book Cass first?

I thought that was interesting. Oprah was really in my ear about this book. But it was during the pandemic and I was sad. You know what I mean? And then it came out about two months after the murder of George Floyd

and I just really wasn't trying to read a big old book. But she kept on me and kept on me. And finally, maybe a few months later, I've read it. And I didn't quite understand it. It's thick. It's a big one. But there were some things in it that were interesting.

I just didn't agree with everything. So I read it again to try to really understand it. And by the time I got to that, about the third time, I said, I want to make a movie about it. The reason why you're saying you didn't know how I was going to turn it into a film is because it's not a story. No, it's facts. It's research. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the idea was, well, let me make a movie about Isabel Wilkerson, the author, as she's researching those facts.

And so that's what the great Andrea Ellis Taylor plays as Isabel. When you watch the film, you can clearly see why it's called's called origins but how did you know the name needed to be changed i don't think people want to go see a movie called cast yeah i don't even think enough people know what cast is i didn't and so i'm just really trying to bring people into some you know information some emotion about things that we should be thinking about in this country because it's so much easier not to talk about it and uh we need to be talking about it. Our freedoms are slipping away. There's information in history that is being kept from us.

There are secret arcs of what's going on in our society, whole arcs, beginning, middle, and ends that we are not aware of. And so a lot of that is in her book, and we tried to bring it into the film. How much time did you spend with Ms Wilkerson as you know I didn't spend any time with miss Wilkerson by the time that I became a part of the project Ava and miss Wilkerson had kind of developed a working practice where

she's just sort of said Ava you do your thing and I when I became a part of the project I I honored that I respected that. Well how do you embody her so well because you're like one of the most passionate thoughtful actresses on screen but it really comes through in this film so how are you able to do that? Well the great thing about her writing and I recommend

anybody to actually read the book Cast is that she and you know this her writing is so transparent and there's blood in her words you know every every pillar of cast that she argues through every every part of the book she's in the book she she builds her arguments from her own personal experience so I looked at the book cast when I was reading it when I got the part as a memoir of Miss Wilkerson so I I just used that as a memoir of Ms. Wilkerson.

So I just use that as my source material. And then I had a great script. How were you able to get out of character? Was it easy? Because watching the film, I think anybody who watches it will get so much emotion, right? It starts in the beginning. You get emotion because it brings you back to that time to even a conversation when you're having with the plumber. And it puts you in a situation where you're upset and you're mad and you're angry.

So how did you get out of character? And how long did it take you to get out of character when this film was finally over? I'm still in character. Really? I'm still in character. I was talking to someone yesterday and they were asking me about why I wanted to do it. And I said, well, I feel like I have something in common with Ms. Wilkerson. I don't have her brain, but I do feel like I share her heart.

I don't have Ava's brain or her artistic abilities, but I do feel I share her heart. And I feel like it's my mission. And that's why I wanted to be a part of it. So I'm in this character every day. The difference is how Ms. Wilkerson presents herself is far different from the way that I'm far more passionate. You know, at least I present more passionate than Ms. Wilkerson does. Ms. Wilkerson is very withheld, and I am not.

It's very interesting that you say that you feel like you don't have their brains because it feels like a symphony, right? Like all of y'all are together. Yes. I don't know she's the sister is is intellectually rigorous partner the most um the most robust muscular exchange of ideas that i've ever had on any set with any actor that i've ever worked with in 15 years of doing this. And I've worked with incredible people, but I'm talking about let's dissect what we're doing, let's think about it together, let's look at every line,

let's really make sure that our intention is coming through in every scene and everything we do. And that kind of partner was incredible to have. So yeah, it was an extraordinary experience shooting with her. When you watch the film, you see Miss Wilkinson going through the whole creative process of the book. Do you see yourselves in the movie's version of Isabel? Yeah, I do. You know, when you're making a film, you are on a singular journey.

You're with a group of people. It's like you feel like a tribe of folks that are just kind of at war with uh you know fighting for a vision and fighting for something every day and i feel like she she was doing that but she was alone you know she was alone in the world she you know in this film we travel from you know you'll see um this black woman actress you know traveling the world on an intellectual adventure we're in berlin we're in new delhi, India. We are crisscrossing through seven different time periods. We are kind of on this globetrotting, globe-spanning mystery, romance, intellectual adventure, but we're all together. Isabel Wilkerson was by herself when she did it. And so just the idea that we're able to chronicle and capture this incredible feat done by this sister is something that was an honor for us. What about you, Ajna? Do you see yourself in the film's version? Yes.

I mean, I feel like I feel I mean, I feel that she she writes for me. She writes my mind. She writes my heart. She writes so much that I did not have the words for it. That makes sense. I knew that there was something at play here, but I didn't know how to articulate it. And Ms. Wilkerson gives us the words for it. My experience being from rural Mississippi and understanding that these statues and the flags, that they're not just hagiography.

They're not just, oh, we're putting this up here for our fallen heroes. That they are tools of intimidation and this is this is what miss wilker this is the work miss wilkerson does she calls it out she calls the thing for what it is and so she writes what i need the words i need to know in order to fight for what i need to fight for all right we got more with ava duvenet and anjanue ellis taylor when we come back don't move it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj envy charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.

We're still kicking it with Ava DuVernay and Anjanue Ellis-Taylor. Charlamagne? Is it true, Anjanue, that you stood outside a movie theater passing out postcards to promote Origin on the day of the Golden Globes? Yes, I did. Yes, sir, I did. Wow. And she's trying to go tomorrow, too.

She's asking me for extra postcards. That's dedication. Yes. Wow. She sure did. Absolutely. I'm not waiting for somebody to go tomorrow, too. Asking me for extra postcards. That's dedication. Yes, it sure did. Absolutely. I'm not waiting for somebody to do it for me. I want to do it myself.

We don't have a lot of money, right? We don't have millions and millions of dollars in promotional funds. If you're on Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles, and I've been there for the last couple days working on this, every billboard is some incredible movie we don't have that so we got to get the word out whatever way we can so first of all thank y'all for letting us come on thank you for coming and yeah i was outside that movie theater passing out them postcards yeah yeah man that that saddens me a little bit though because i'm like yo great films like this great black films created by black people black women women. It should get the promotion in the market.

And you think about everything that Taraji has been saying recently about, you know, pay in the industry for women. Whose fault is that? Is it our fault for not supporting these films like we should with our dollars? Or like whose fault is that? In general, in our industry, it is an interlocking puzzle of factors that put us all in the places that we're in. And that, you know, I really feel we need to solve for by getting together as a group of people and trying to address everyone's different issues and find solutions. But it's just not one thing like that. so much history within the studio system and within Hollywood, within the marketing, the distribution, the exhibition, the casting, the production.

I mean, it's layered. You're not seeing folks on sets in the positions where they're being crew members. It's in the casting. It's in the executive ranks. It's in the marketing. It's in the promotion. It's in the publicity. It's in the distribution. It's in the promotion. It's in the publicity. It's in the distribution.

It's with the exhibitors, you know, the actual theaters themselves and what they want to play and what they think folks are coming in. So, you know, it is it's a mess. And yet we still make our art. And yet we still tell our stories. And yet we still enter into this and wade into it to try to enlighten entertain empower tell our stories so whenever you see a film like i love watching films late at night on vet let me tell you why they have one camera like this is one camera you can tell you know they had two lights you know what i mean in these movies they the makeup might not be quite right everything might be quite right but you are seeing someone with a voice trying to create something and so

i think you know it's really hard for me to criticize films because it's hard out there to make them and i know that whenever i see someone and bear witness to someone trying to do it they are fighting a battle that most people don't even know yeah what makes it worth it for you as you know the work and actress like if it's not if it's not financial what makes it just worth it for you it depends on what it depends on what it is you know i i'm i'm i'm gonna i'm not gonna say that you know i'm above doing i i gotta pay i gotta take care of people in my family got people who rely on me uh family and friends uh so uh hallie berry famously said acting is uh is is is uh I don't know what she said what she's trying to say what she said was it's a job right you know it's not something you

do for fun it's great if you can do it for fun but it's a job it generates income for you for your life but when I have when you can converge these sort of things of purpose and paycheck like that's what I live for and origin is origin is one of those origin is one of those places I believe and I cannot say this enough coming from Mississippi where there is an an active move to redact black women black people from history books from curriculums that is happening all over the south that if you can come inside a theater with some popcorn in your hand, and Ava DuVernay is offering origin, offering our history to us in places where we should learn it, but we can't because there's an act to remove us, to erase us.

And when I'm doing this kind of work, I feel that it makes me want to get up in the morning. I was going to ask, what do you want people to get out of this film? Because there's me want to get up in the morning you know yeah i was gonna ask what do you want people to get out of this film because there's so much to get right i'm one of the scenes where your mom in the movie and she's talking about you know maybe he should the boy should have just listened right and the crazy thing about that is that's something my dad would say right and he would say that because he's looking at it as i just want you to get home right but now me being a father and i have two boys as a young man you think about i don't care what they say i don't have to do this but now as a father i think of the same thing i just want my kids to come home and then on another scene you look at the love story with the gentleman who was

you know uh dating a jewish girl and you see his and you see what his heart meant so what do you want people to get out of this story? The true message. The true message is, you know, people come out of this film and we've shown it in different festivals and things around the world. People come out of the film and they come. Some people come up to me and they're talking about grief and loss. Some people come up to me and talk about the grandmother. Some people come up to me and they're talking about, you know, the scenes of the Holocaust or the slave ship.

Some people are talking to me about Niecy Nash and how she made them laugh in the Black Family Reunion scene or Audra McDonald or Blair Underwood or whatever it is. I don't want to define what people take out of it. What I want to say is we are not defending ourselves and we are not talking enough about what is happening. And I hope that this turns on people's desire to want to read more, talk more, Google, research, figure out what is happening around us. You know, when I talk about the stripping of rights, this is an urgent call. There's so many people making it. And I'm just a filmmaker. So the only thing I can do is make films. That's what I do. And I'm asking you, what can you do where you are? Because we all need to alert ourselves, remind ourselves, orient ourselves to where we are and what is coming. There's going to be a change in this country.

It is going to be happening within the next year. And if you are not aware of what those changes are, please watch the film or don't watch the film. Watch, read, talk to whoever you need to talk to to get up on the current state of events. And this is an all out emergency. So that's why it was really important for us to try to create something that instigates conversation. You come out and you're talking about it. That's the goal. I will not go anywhere. We have more with Ava DuVernay and Anjanue Ellis-Taylor when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of, like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete.

Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tried my country. My forefathers did that themselves.

What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help!

We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run run high is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories,, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High.

It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going.

This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.

Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey y'all, Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called

Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus

nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hola, mi gente. It's Honey German, and I'm bringing you Gracias, Come Again, the podcast where we dive deep into the world of Latin culture, musica, películiculas, and entertainment with some of the biggest names in the game. If you love hearing real conversations with your favorite Latin celebrities,

artists, and culture shifters, this is the podcast for you. We're talking real conversations with our Latin stars, from actors and artists to musicians and creators, sharing their stories, struggles, and successes. You know it's going to be filled with chisme laughs and all the vibes that you love. Each week, we'll explore everything from music and pop culture

to deeper topics like identity, community, and breaking down barriers in all sorts of industries. Don't miss out on the fun, el té caliente, and life stories. Join me for Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German, where we get into todo lo actual y viral. Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Ava DuVernay and Anjanue Ellis-Taylor. Charlamagne? I thought it was incredible how you showed how

Ms. Wilkinson was inspired to write, cast, after the shooting of of trayvon martin and i know uh mr brina fulton his mother has turned down a lot of people in regards to putting that story on screen so how did you convince her you know what i called that sister i was so nervous when i called miss fulton i called her and she was like girl why are you so nervous to talk to me I said does my first voice sound nervous she said yeah your voice is shaking she made me feel comfortable we laughed I told her what I wanted to do uh in portraying you know the the final night of her son's life her son's Trayvon's life and she said right there on the phone do it wow do it right there she said she believed in the work. She believed in my storytelling

and that she trusted me with the story. I said, do you want to come to the set? Do you want to see the script? Do you know? Just do it. And so she visited my campus in Los Angeles. We keep a nice touch. Her other son came to see the film. I showed her some clips of the film just so that she could be aware, you know, before it was out. And and she's been a beautiful, beautiful advocate for this to the telling of the story. Was that the real 9-1-1 call? That might be a that is a real. I was like, man, whoever did that voiceover was great. That's the real killer's voice.

Yeah. Wow. On that on that call, you hear his last words so in the back when you went in the film when you hear the final 9-1-1 call that Zimmerman made when he called uh when people were calling the police on the scuffle outside yelling screaming yes it's his screaming in the back and you know he's he's saying help you know and and when we think about that case we think about Zimmerman but you don't think about that that that boy on the ground yelling help help help me and so when you know it's important to give visibility and

presence to his voice and so in the film you don't just see what was done to him you see what he was doing before this man even walked up to him he was on the phone with his friends going to get some candy talking on the phone and um he was afraid yeah that's what stood out to me like yes yeah think about that in the moment you're in a neighborhood that's really not your neighborhood it's dark and you feel like you're being someone's circling the blind yeah and then you know you run because you want to get away that's right and so we show it from his perspective it was the same thing with when they see us you know people mad about that but the bottom line is this is their story you're mad about selma this is the black people of selma's version of the story this is when they see us these are the

exonerated five and their family's versions of the story and so it's just like who gets to tell the story whose perspective does this history and this news that you hear who gets to tell it and you know what i just answered my question maybe that's why i'm not getting scripts that's why i don't judge the old woman in the movie or anybody who feels like that because when i watched that scene i literally said don't run brother but if we're older now you know what i mean you would have ran when you were that age absolutely probably you know what i mean when you were that age yeah yeah this man wasn't a police officer and that's another thing he's not a police police told him to stand down yes they told him stay where you are we don't need you to do that yeah but that's

what that that piece in it is what got isabel wilkerson from what she told me thinking about the whole idea of cast because she was like wait a minute this is a latino man stalking a black boy to protect a white neighborhood that's not race so everybody just puts that in the box of race and she was like but that's not race because because the zimmerman would have been in the same situation if that was him in a different neighborhood that's right but also you have you so she's saying there's something more complex than this being race because you have all of these different class elements, you know, ethnicities, you know, where the geography was. So she started to think about, well, what is it?

And that's what led her to the idea of Castle. We opened the film and you see Trayvon Martin in his life, in his day before George Zimmerman is even around and what he was doing before. And it was important to humanize him. I think that's the thing with when you're showing trauma on screen you can't show it as spectacle you have to show it as the emotion and the dignity of the person who's been traumatized and so when we open the film you open on him talking to his homegirl on the phone laughing doing their thing so about that

by the time he is assaulted he's not just a boy in the hoodie you know I mean you know really specifically what was on his mind what he was doing and a bit of who he was and that's that's so important when we're dealing with you know matters like this on screen and miss Fulton seen it yet I'm sure yeah she saw though she saw the scenes that he was in okay yeah yeah yeah she saw the scenes I wonder how that was for her actually I was she I was there she was she had two friends with her to a family member and a friend and they were both very emotional. That sister is.

She was emotional, but she was stoic about it, and she said yes, that's right. And so, you know, you imagine what a mother goes through and the way they have to reserve their emotion. And she was, I won't say strong, because I hate that word, but I think it's overused. But she was, you know, very, I think she was very present in the moment as she watched it. It was emotional, but she was processing it analytically, like a mom, like protectively, like, okay, you can go do that. You know, and I've really enjoyed um i've really enjoyed uh each time we cross path the bottom line is our film um will be out in the world on january 19th and if it is near you and it may not be near you but i ask you from my heart if it is near you you'll have to find it because

it will not find you there will be very few commercials there will be very little promotions you will not hear about it in your face like you're hearing about everything else you you i'm asking you to look for it to google and see if it's near you i'm gonna cry google and see if it's near you and if it is please go or send someone to go and it's not for the box office because i'll never see it i'm not getting paid on this film i didn't get paid on this film right i put my money into the end of the film itself the film's not for the box office because I'll never see it. I'm not getting paid on this film. I didn't get paid on this film, right? I put my money into the film itself. The film's not going to make enough money for me to ever see any money back. Go to see it so that it can do what the purpose of it was. need to learn come out a little bit um more knowledgeable about some key things that might help you in your decision making because decisions will need to be made and soon and so please google check reach out find it take someone that's my ask there's anything i've ever made that has

entertained you queen sugar selma wrinkle colin and black and white 13th anything i've ever done please look for this because I think there's something in it that will be worth your time how many more labels of love do you have Ava

because that's what it feels I don't know I'm tired that's what I'm saying I really am yeah I'm tired well I was going to say I've seen Ben Affleck

I've seen Dave Chappelle do screenings yeah Charlamagne you want to do a screening me and you together absolutely I would love to

we'll do a screening that's easy we'll get a data here I actually want to do it for some kids I thought about that. We'll do a screening. We'll get a data here. I actually want to do it for some kids. I thought about that last night because my daughter's 15. I was like,

I would love for her and her age group to see it because it's so educational. It's entertaining, of course, but it's also educational. And you have something that you're doing for teens, right? 16 year olds?

Yeah, yeah. Break that down. It's called Seat 16 and you can, so you go to Seat, S-E-A-T 1616.com and you can buy a ticket for a young person. And for $16, you buy a ticket and then they also get a year long subscription to master class. Because I did one of those master classes about how to how to how I made the film.

And so for a year, they can go on and they can get a master class and watch master classes and have an education about all kinds of things for 16 bucks. And the hope is that we can, you know, get young people into this. So you can just go to the website and pay for a 16-year-old's ticket and that's how to go to... A young person's ticket

for $16. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what's the site again? Seat16.com. Seat16.com. I promise, if it means anything,

Ms. DuVernay, I think this is your best work, you know, because, you know, I don't think you get the respect you deserve as a writer, you know, as much as you do as a director,

but there's a lot going on in this film but you were able to take the documentary style of 13th and mix it with the narrative of When They See Us and it just creates a great piece of work called Origin. Thank you.

Najnu, you phenomenal. Bodied it. Thank you. All types of emotions. Thank you guys so much. The movie you phenomenal bodied it that's right bodied it thank you all types of emotions thank you so much well thank you guys so much the movie January 19th

go check it out go see it go find it yeah go find it go find it it's gonna be in Hattiesburg Mississippi it's gonna be somewhere

you know what I'm saying we appreciate y'all for joining us thank you so much thank you for having us brothers thank you y'all absolutely it's the breakfast of the morning alright

that was T Grizzly Chris Brown Mariah the Scientist morning everybody Thanks for having us, brothers. Thank you, y'all. Absolutely. It's the Breakfast Club of the Morning. All right. That was Tee Grizzly, Chris Brown, Mariah the Scientist. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Usher. Rumor has it.

Rumor. Rumor has it. Call out a name or you gossiping or you chatty patty. I don't gossip. Tell us. Tell us. This is the Rumor Report. I mean, I guess we on the Breakfast Club. This is where the tea spills, right?

Right. Now, we tried to report this yesterday, but we had technical difficulties yesterday because of the mics went out. It was a problem, but we were talking about Usher. Now, of course, Usher's performing at the Super Bowl this year. Charlamagne's Dallas Cowboys won't be there. And neither will your New York Giants. I told you you got to shut up.

Our producers won't be there. And neither will your New York Giants. You are really delus to shut up. Cowboys won't be there. And neither will your New York Giants. You are really delusional. You lack self-awareness. I hope you know that. Like I said, Charlemagne Dallas. I never thought my Giants was going to be there. That's your fault for not having no optimism.

No, I knew the truth. And you should have known the truth, too. No, why? We was 12-5. But did you make it? We made it to the playoffs. You say it every year, though. If you get into the playoffs, you have an opportunity to go to the Super Bowl. Your team didn made it to the playoffs. You say it every year, though. If you get into the playoffs, you have an opportunity to go to the Super Bowl.

Your team didn't even make the playoffs. You say it every year. Y'all started rooting for that guy because his name was DeVito, and he had an agent that y'all thought was cool. Tommy DeVito you talking about? Whatever. I don't know. All right.

Well, anyway, as I was saying, the Super Bowl this year, Good Morning America spoke to Usher about his performance and the fact that he's getting ready and if he ever thought about this before. Nine number one singles, over 80 million records sold worldwide. How do you possibly pack that into 13 minutes? Where do you start? I try to get back as far as I can and go back to the first album if I could. But, you know, literally 13 minutes.

I think I just started by making certain that my kids approved I got my portion of it for you know for the 30 and up I got them yeah but for my youngins you know I'm asking on Cinco and Naveed I'm taking notes they've been like taking conference calls with my entire team giving notes when did you start rehearsing for the show actually you know what playing the Super Bowl the first time as a support for the Black Eyed Peas. Since that day I think I had it in my mind that I wanted to go back to the stage. Usher what is your favorite song to perform and why is it yeah? Who said it was yeah? I mean I said it was yeah. You think it's your favorite song is yeah?

Listen man. That was Kelly Carter by the way. Salute to Kelly Carter. Drop on the clues bombs for Usher, man. Legend. What a bomb. This is a celebration of black music. It's a celebration of culture. This is Usher getting his flowers on the highest level. Absolutely.

We've been on a journey with Usher since day one, right? You remember the first time you seen Usher in a music video? It had to be like 25 years ago, right? At least. Yeah. Because Confessions is 20. I think Confessions,

am I tripping? Yeah, Confessions came out in 2004. So Confessions turns 20 this year. So Usher's been around for at least 25 years.

Absolutely. At least. Excited to see him at the Super Bowl. Oh my God, cannot wait. Bring the Skripper Poles to the Super

Bowl, Usher. If you've been to Usher's Vegas residency, you know how it goes when he brings the Skripper Poles out. excited to see him oh my god cannot wait bring the stripper poles to the super bowl usher if you've been to ushers vegas residency you know how it goes when he brings the stripper poles out the girls probably can't be dressed the way they dressed in vegas but you got to bring them stripper poles to the super bowl stage that's right well salute to usher and also salute to ice cube he received a basketball hall of fame award named after him. Basketball. Six rap star, film producer, actor, entrepreneur, and big three basketball league co-founder Ice Cube was in Springfield today. The artist received the inaugural Ice Cube Impact Award. The award recognizes Ice Cube's remarkable contributions to basketball

and his commitment to fostering dialogues on inclusivity and equal opportunity. So it's an award that we, you know, I get the first one, but we're going to give it out every year to people who've made a positive impact using the game of basketball. So I'm out here because, you know, it's a huge honor for me, and it's great to be able to interact with the community as well. Today's award presentation took place at the basketball hall of fame i love it dropping a clue month of ice cube i'm shocked the nba hasn't bought

uh the big three yet me too only because like the big three stretches out the lifespan of like some of their greatest players like think about a big three uh the game at the all all-star weekend right you know where you go you can go get the Tracy McGrady's and Allen Iverson's and, you know, the Kevin Garnett's. Carmelo Anthony's. Yeah, the Carmelo Anthony's.

They playing against each other. Like, I don't know. I'm just shocked they haven't bought the big three. But it also gives players an opportunity who were in the league

that think they can still play to show that they still can play, you know, outside of the G League. And people we still want to see. Right. You know,

there's people we still want to see. There's people that just, you know, hung it up. Like a Carmelo, you still would want to still want to see. Right. You know, there's people we still want to see. There's people that just, you know, hung it up. Like a Carmelo, you still would want to see him out there. Absolutely. You know, so I'm shocked. I'm sure you will at some point. But I'm just shocked they haven't already.

All right. And that is... But the price is only going to keep going up. What do you mean, for the big three? Yes. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah.

And that is your rumor report. Now, who are you giving that donkey to? Oh, man. I need Nikki Haley to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with her. Okay'll get to that next don't move it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club your mornings will never be the same this is a miracle there is no question that there are problems in this country between police and community yes you are a donkey the latest on that police killing of a black man

now to new developments in the deadly spa shooting rampage and yesterday was a really bad day for him and this is what he did and so we are in a state of emergency okay white supremacist violence is always has been the number one threat to our society but i'm also very proud that my wife is white the breakfast club bitches all right sean lean please tell me why was i your donkey of the day well donkey of the day for wednesday january 17th goes the republican presidential candidate and former governor south carolina nikki haley i have had the opportunity to have a conversation with nikki haley when i guest hosted uh the daily show last November I had her on I've also said repeatedly I personally believe the Republican Party should move away from Donald Trump and the 91 criminal charges to impeachments and host of other BS he brings to the table that's

an understatement by the way uh the GOP needs to move away from him get behind Nikki but they won't because the white supremacist party doesn't really want an Indian American female representing them. I don't believe anyway. And the GOP, if they can get Trump back in office, are so close to really taking over and punishing who they hate. Why would they give that up now? But those aren't the reasons we are gathered here today. We are gathered here today because Nikki Haley is in the news this week because she is the latest american politician to say america is not a racist country her statement was america has never been a racist country which is complete malarkey

cap as the kids say let's listen are you a racist party we're not a racist country brian we've never been a racist country our goal is to make sure that today is better than yesterday are we perfect no i know i faced racism when i was growing up but I can tell you today is a lot better than it was then. Cap, that wasn't even the question. The question was, are you a racist party? But Nikki said America has never been a racist country. But then she turned around and said she has experienced racism. That's because there can be systemic racism uh without racists let's discuss listen uh y'all

i don't know why we have to say this ever so often but a quick reminder america is a racist country i think we forget that racism isn't always explicitly visible it's not always uh you know conscious but in america what racism absolutely is and always has been is systemic and structural. Remember when the great black philosopher, Father of Blue Ivy said, and you can try to change, but that's just the top layer. Man, you was who you was for you got here. That's America. Regardless of how the top layer changes. Doesn't matter if Oprah is the richest woman in the world. Barack Obama was president. That's just top layer stuff. The root, the foundation of this country is systemic and structural racism is deeply embedded in systems, laws, written or unwritten policies. These racist practices and beliefs that produce and perpetuate widespread unfair treatment and oppression of people who are at the bottom of this caste system in America. Okay. And those people are black, brown. brown it is what it is why do we act like this isn't a thing okay america was never a racist country how many examples do you need right now

we don't even gotta you know get in the delorean and go back to slavery or the jim crow south we can talk about residential segregation right now unfair lending practices and other barriers to home ownership we could talk about uh you know unfair barriers to accumulating wealth and environmental injustice and biased policing and sentencing of black men and black boys voter suppression policies there's a quote and the quote is those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it and when people say things like america is not a racist country or it's never been a racist country that's them trying to not remember the past and that is exactly why systemic racism continues to permeate all sectors and areas of society okay saying things like

america is not a racist country or america has never been a racist country is why we have never truly fixed systemic racism because acknowledging the existence of systemic systemic racism is the first step all right you can't hear what you don't reveal and we're not gonna ever heal because there's not a politician who truly wants to be honest about it this isn't the first time i've given the biggest he heart of someone for making these type of statements oh no no no no see back in 2021 just three short years ago uh my south carolina brethren senator tim scott delivered the gop response to biden's first joint address in congress and he said this hear me clearly america is not a racist country cap well that statement for the next few days caused the media to ask every person of color okay every black and brown person who was in government whether or not they thought thought America was a racist country.

They asked, you know, more of my South Carolina brethren, my OG Jim Clyburn. I love Jim Clyburn. I hope this doesn't get my invite to Jim Clyburn's world famous fish fry revoke this year. But they asked my OG and he said this. A racist country would never elect Barack Obama president or Kamala Harris vice president. So we should stop arguing about whether or not this is a racist country. It is not. They also asked Vice President

Kamala Harris, is America a racist country? And she had this to say. First of all, no, I don't think America is a racist country, but we also do have to speak truth about the history of racism in our country and its existence today. Cap. Nikki Haley, Republican, Tim Scott, Republican, Jim Clyburn, Democrat, Kamala Harris, Democrat,

all saying America is not, or as Nikki said, never has been a racist country. Every single one of those statements is just simply not true on any level. Absolute falsehoods okay the vice president kamala harris said america is not a racist country but the nation must speak the truth about its history with racism in this country speaking the truth about the history of racism in this country is acknowledging that yes america systemically and structurally is a racist country okay saying this country isn't racist because they elected president obama and you know vice president kamala harris is not accurate everybody in this country isn't racist okay i believe people aren't inherently racist

but once again this country this system is rooted in structural and systemic racism the irony of og jim clive bern statements are they are actively trying to prevent us from ever having another president obama now through voter suppression and we can't even begin to discuss the impact of voter suppression on black communities we're talking about guess what america being racist and we're not even gonna get into the electoral colleges racist origins okay i'm not smart enough to discuss that but once again you can't talk about that without talking about america being a racist country all right listen here's what it is regardless of party nobody talks about race honestly because when it comes to republicans racism is part of the gop's ideological dna and

when it comes to democrats they just scared they just shook to death that's why i call them cowards okay democrats advocate for anti-racist policies but then turn around and say america is not a racist country it's stupid and all because they are afraid to turn off hypothetical imaginary swing voters. This is why people think Democrats are full of it, because when Republicans are telling their base their truth all the time and Democrats are dancing around. OK, everything Republicans look honest and Democrats look like liars. I know it's strange, but that's why knowing how to communicate is important. And you will never win people over looking like you lying.

OK, Republicans are more honest with their lies than democrats are about their truth i repeat republicans are more honest with their lies than democrats are with their truth democrats in regards to racism and a lot of other things but in regards to racism especially in light of what nikki haley just said dems need to lean into some difficult honest conversations about race in this country you will win some people over and you will lose some people but anything is better than what y'all are doing right now okay but i don't want to make this about dims because as i said earlier regardless of party no politician has conversations about race honestly in this country but one more thing for democrats all right you can't lay out all these examples of systemic racism and then

turn around and say america isn't racist country. You just dismissed your own position. OK, if the Democratic Party was unified and they all collectively said America is a racist country and it's our job to fix it, it wouldn't be an issue. And it would be honest. But folks are scared to be honest. OK, folks are scared to be honest because they know nobody in the party will have their back. And if you were were honest you would really show the glaring difference between yourself and republicans okay in regards to racism but in regards to racism you all are saying the same thing and that is deeply disappointing it is deeply disappointing to listen to all of these people try to either deny or oversimplify racism okay to either deny or oversimplify america being a racist country or

in the case of nicki haley saying america was never a racist country to begin with please give nicki haley the biggest hee-haw all right well thank you for that donkey today. Yes, indeed. Now, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. This morning in the room was we tell you a story about Des Bryant. He was on a Pivot podcast. Fantastic conversation. And he was talking about breaking generational curses. This is what he said.

Let me read something. It's been on my phone for five. Since I met y'all, it's probably been like six years. Just say, break break generational curses quit yelling at your kids before they go to bed and inspect them sleep well quit yelling at your kids in the morning right after they wake up before school inspecting to have a good day you set the tone for your children you set the tone you set the tone for your voice they will always remember in their heads you become the inner voice don't be

the inner critic speak life speak love speak bravery kindness and hope speak wisdom and truth most of all listen to your children i never had none of that i get that to mind and that's my number one priority that's i follow that that's heartbreaking and um and i do it i live it i live it i want uh i encourage everybody to go listen to that episode of the pivot with uh you know des bryant but you know i really just want to know when you hear that when you hear those words coming out of des bryant's mouth how does it make you feel as a parent not even just a parent how does it make your inner child feel what do you feel when you hear those words well we'll discuss when we come back 800-585-1051 let's talk about it all right it's the breakfast club come on the breakfast club

it's topic time call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. If you're just joining us, during the earlier rumor, we were talking about Dez Bryant. He was on the Pivot podcast with Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor. Salute to my guys, man. Salute to everybody over there at The Pivot, man. Love what

they do. One of my favorite podcasts to listen to. I told Ryan this a long time ago. I think I said it when I even did The Pivot. They really have created a safe space for men to go and be vulnerable. If you've ever seen the Michael Beasley conversation or you saw the recent Dez Bryant conversation,

you know what I'm talking about. Well, he got a chance to talk about breaking generational curses. And this is what Dez Bryant said. Let me read something. It's been on my phone for five. Since I met y'all, it's probably been like six years. Just say, break generational curses. Quit yelling at your kids before they go to bed and inspect them to sleep well.

Quit yelling at your kids in the morning right after they wake up before school and inspect them to have a good day. You set the tone for your children. You set the tone for your voice. They will always remember in their heads. You become their inner voice. Don't be their inner critic. Speak life. Speak love. Speak bravery, kindness, and hope. Speak wisdom and truth. Most of all, listen listen to your children i never had none of that i get that to mind and that's my number one priority that's i follow that that's heartbreaking and um and i do it i live it i live it so we're opening up the phone lines 800-585-1051 uh just talking about what's your thoughts after hearing Des Bryant talking about how he feels about his kids and probably how much trauma probably brought back to him because he probably was yelled at before he went to sleep. He probably was yelled at before he went to school and clearly he said to him and how it's affected him throughout his life.

You know? Yeah, man. Listen, it reminds me of the statement. If you didn't come from a quote, if you didn't come come from a healthy family make sure a healthy family comes from you everything dad said you know hit home you know not just hit home you know because because because what my inner child you know felt when he said those words but you know it hit home you know me being a parent now which is why in those moments when i do fall short and you know i yell at my kids for something i do something that i never got when i was a kid when i used to get yelled at and that was you know an apology you know i apologize to them sometimes because well most of the time because of everything that's brian said because i don't want to be their inner critic i don't want them to think of me and my words to them you know and

and and feel feel down about that i feel insulted I want them to get strength from my words. I want them to feel empowered by my words, you know, which is why when you're a father of a young daughter or young daughters like I am, you tell them they're beautiful. You tell them you love their complexion. You tell them you love their hair. You tell them they're brilliant.

You tell them they can achieve anything because that's the stuff that they're going to remember. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, I do discipline my children. And I was always taught when you discipline, you do it out of love. Right. You don't do it because you're having a bad day. You don't do it because of something that's going on in your life. You do it out of love. And I think that's the one thing I would say that as parents, we need to do more when we make a mistake, when we're wrong, we apologize. Right. Because, you know, a lot of times people feel like apology is you're being weak, but no, apologizing is being strong.

You understand what you did was wrong and you're apologizing and you're telling your kids this is not the way that you're supposed to be acting. Now, when it comes to my kids and they do something wrong, I explain to them what it is so they understand. They just don't think that I'm taking something away or they're getting yelled at or there is a, you know, a problem because of something that they don't understand why and I think as a lot of times as children we don't understand why we were you know in trouble or why our parents said no but I think when you break it down and you explain it it's a it's a it's a I think they gain more trust for you as a parent because now they understand why you're looking out for them I'll be honest with you I always knew I was getting in trouble as a kid I was like kids kids ain't that kids ain't that clueless now.

Kids know when they ain't got no... But like sometimes, like for instance, last night, you know, I had a... Shout out to my son Jackson. For Christmas, my daughter came home, Madison came home, and she Fortnite a lot. So he's into Fortnite now. And he's almost addicted to Fortnite. Like he plays so much. So I had to pull him back off of Fortnite.

I pull him back off his video games. So last night I go in his room and the video game is up. And I'm like, bro, so I had to pull him back off of Fortnite. I pull him back off his video games. So last night, I go in his room, and the video game is up. And I'm like, bro, we just had this conversation. But he took it as, dad, you said don't play Fortnite. But I'm playing Madden. It's two different things. You know what I mean? That's just a conversation.

But it's just a conversation. But, you know, he didn't necessarily get it. So when I explained to him what it was, he was like, all right, I thought you just meant. By the way. I know. He know good and well what he was doing. Absolutely he knows. Please. But that goes back to my point that's my point you know dan wasn't supposed to be playing no video games period absolutely he just hit you with the word play and you fell for it i see boy you are really clueless no that's what we are realizing it's not

envy is clueless envy can get got i want you to envy gets got so easy oh shut up shut up let's go to the phone you play go to the phone just go to Shut up. Just go to the phone. You play too much. You play too much. Just go to the phone. You play too much. Just go to the phone. No! What I was saying was about why I wanted him to stop playing video games because he was missing out on life. He was missing out on family things.

He was missing out on the most important things, and he understood it. That's what the point was. Hello, who's this? This is Marie. Hey, good morning. Good morning. How did you feel when you heard that, Marie? I agree with what he's saying 100% because I do feel like what our parents used to do with us

or how they spoke to us do affect us in the long run. So I grew up, like, very strict, very stern. I'm Puerto Rican, so it was like, when you're going to punish me, you know, you kneel down with your hands on the wall, you hold encyclopedias and stuff. So I try my best to be different with my son. But it is difficult sometimes to break, you know, break those characteristics that you know,

because I feel like now if my mother wasn't turning and she wasn't the way she was, then we wouldn't be how we are today. So I try not to definitely hit my son. But these new kids, they have, like, a different outlook on things. They're very much entitled. So sometimes as parents, we do get tired of talking. And I tell my son all the time, like, don't think I like yelling at you. Don't think I like giving you punishment. But I do have to discipline you and let you know that you can run over me.

You won't be able to do what you want to do, but I do feel like we need to bring more life, encourage our kids, uplift them, and be open with them and have those conversations and even let them express to us how they feel. Like I always tell my son, if I make you feel a wave, be okay with telling me. I have no problem with apologizing to my son. I feel like a lot of parents do. But that's how we teach our kids to take accountability and also be proud of the things that they do. Absolutely. Thank you, Mama, for sharing your story.

Hello, who's this? It's Carlos. Carlos, good morning. What did you think after you heard that, brother? Well, for Deji Banks, I do understand what he means as far as don't yell at the kids before they go to school and expect them to have a good day. Who did you say just now? Desi Banks, right?

That was Des Bryant, man. Des Bryant. Yo, Des Bryant. My bad. My bad. There's a huge difference between Des Bryant and Desi Banks. Ex-football player. My apology.

Go ahead, brother. Okay, yeah. I get it. But what I'm saying is that what he's dealing with, that's his level of trauma, right? That's something that he went through and he's trying to correct that

in his life. And I absolutely understand that. I agree with it. Good for him. But the only thing that I'm trying to say is I don't think that most people

just yell at their kids for nothing. No, a lot of people do. A lot of people do. And the reason a lot of people do is because, you know, what people don't think about it when you're stressed out. Right. And you have a lot of stress, whether it's work, whether it's just the outside world, whether it's financial, whether it's family. Most of the times you take it out on the closest people to you, which is usually your wife and your kids. Most people don't think about it, but they usually do. I don't think, I think what

he's saying is, I get what you're saying my brother on the phone, but I think sometimes there can be an overreaction based off everything Envy just said. You know what I mean? You might yell at your kids for something that doesn't necessarily mean, doesn't necessarily need that level of yelling volume.

If I'm saying this correctly, because I'm also not trying to disregard what he's saying i'm just using it as an example to say surface level like if my if my kid did something wrong i'm going to talk to him a lot more stern whether it's before bed or before school to make sure he just understands the point like hey you may have done something wrong yeah and that's probably just that's probably just my that's probably just me and the way i operate in my home well thank you brother yeah i'm sure it's not even just the yelling it's the it's what's being yelled it's the things you say to your children before they go to sleep or the things you say to them before they go to school like you know i think a lot we we gotta we just gotta speak more life into our kids man 800-585-1051 we're

talking about des bryant he did an interview on the pivot podcast and he was talking about breaking generational curses we're gonna play it when we come back and just asking your thoughts it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj nv charlamagne the Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now we got to salute to Ava DuVernay for joining us this morning. Salute to Ava DuVernay and Anjanue Ellis. The movie Origins will be out January 19th in select theaters.

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morning everybody it's DJ Envy Charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club it's time to get up out of here Charlemagne you got a positive note that's right uh listen man um I want to tell everybody make sure you go check out Des Bryant's conversation on the pivot podcast with Ryan Clark Fred Taylor and Channing Crowder amazing conversation man I want all of us to continue to do the work on ourselves, continue to go see your therapist, your psychiatrist, your counselors, your spiritual leaders, whatever you got to do to do the work on yourself, keep doing it. And I just want to tell y'all, man, we don't call our cars broken when they're out of gas. They just need to be filled up. We don't call our phones worthless when they're out of battery. They just need to be

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