The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Babyface Ray Talks New Album The Kid That Did,' New Label, Detroit Rap Scene, Rich Paul, Jayz + More

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Babyface Ray to Discuss New Album The Kid That Did,' New Label, Detroit Rap Scene, Rich Paul, And Jayz. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy inform...ation.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. LaRoy LaRose is filling in for Jess. We got a special guest in the building. The kid that did.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Babyface Ray. Yeah. What's up, brother? How you feeling? What's popping? How you doing, my brother? I'm doing good. You doing all right?
Starting point is 00:00:20 Yeah, I'm chilling. I love the title of that new album, man. What does that title mean? The Kid That Did. Kid That Did, man. Originally, I got it um sauce walker it was a quote he was saying you know what i'm saying but i felt like it applied to what i had going on and everything that i did so far in my career so it originally started out as a mixtape idea where i wanted to put all the group artists that i was dealing with on it, but it ain't work out like that, and then it turns into an album. We've been talking about how much Detroit has influence on the game right now.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Speak about that for a little bit, because for a while, it was difficult to get out being a Detroit artist. Yeah, it was tough for us at first, but now, like, everywhere you go, they love us, you know what I'm saying? It feel good right now, you know? But at first, it was rough. They didn't even want to hear it. What was the switch?
Starting point is 00:01:06 What was the change? Me, I always say this. I think when T came out with the first day out, it kind of like opened. It kind of shined light on Detroit for that type of sound. You know what I'm saying? And then everything after that, Sada, Doug, it was cool. You know, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:01:23 I saw somebody sent me a tweet where they said, Babyface Ray's music is all about getting money and hustling. Even if you're broke, his music will motivate you to go get a bag. How does it feel to hear people say things like that about you? Because, you know, for me growing up, that's what Jeezy felt like. You know what I'm saying? That's a cool title to put on me. I'm glad they're putting that on me than anything else.
Starting point is 00:01:43 You know what I'm saying? I'm glad I can motivate them to do else. You know what I'm saying? What? I'm glad I can motivate them to do that. You know what I'm saying? I don't hate when they say it and they trying to put it like that, like I'm just down talking to everybody that was broke, because I used to be broke before. I remember how I used to be. But it's cool.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I ain't tripping. At this point, do you feel like you're getting your flowers or like you just do? Definitely. Definitely. How they received my last album definitely motivated me and made me feel loved and supported still. What motivated you to get a bag?
Starting point is 00:02:09 When you hear people say, you know, damn, Babyface Ray Music motivates me to go get some money. What motivated you? Being in the mix. Like, when I was young, I was in the mix. You know what I'm saying? I probably was in the mix with the wrong crowd, but just seeing what they did,
Starting point is 00:02:21 that motivated me to get a bag. It wasn't even about rap. It was just the things they did and how motivated me to get a bag it wasn't even about rap it was just what the things they did and how they carried themselves and stuff so now you're not in the mix what motivates you today today yeah my kids you know what i'm saying my family my fans and stuff like that that's what keep me going for real i always look at your kids and be like i don't really have a baby face because this is what a real baby face looks like no for real i'll be looking at them like this crazy this is how i used to look when I was little? Like, it's crazy. Word.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I love seeing, you know, Sada Baby was up here. I love the fact that Detroit is coming together a lot more than before. Yeah. You know, there was just so many beefs on so many different sides of Detroit, but it feels like that's been squashed.
Starting point is 00:02:58 What do you think the reason that has been? I think it's more of everybody understanding that we got business to handle. You know what I'm saying? We ain't got to be like each other or hang around each other, but all the bullshit that's in the mix, we ain't got to. You know what I'm saying? Like, you get in the bag, whatever, go do your thing.
Starting point is 00:03:17 You know what I'm saying? Y'all in the same clubs. Y'all doing concerts. Y'all doing shows. I love to see that. It ain't no big deal. I saw you got a few lyrics, man, that make me just wonder, like, why does it feel like you'd be so disgusted to hear that a woman would even fuck with a lame-ass nigga?
Starting point is 00:03:32 You put a lot of emphasis on that. You got one line, you say, we ain't got no business even speaking if you fucking lames. You ain't got no business even thinking you can fuck with Faze. Yeah. Another line, you say, seeing a soul called baddie fucking lame, it left me traumatized. Yeah. Another line, you say, almost cried when I seen my ex bitch her new nigga broken is sad to see yeah Hey, that's crazy. I don't know man
Starting point is 00:03:52 You know when you did it with somebody you put your you know Look your love and your caring to them and you deal with them and then you see somebody that you feel is lame That's dealing with the same thing that you cared about it can mess you up a little bit Why is it that he can say that and you big him up but when a girl says the same thing we get downplayed why you think that that is because he loves to drag me for being like certain things i don't want to deal with that's crazy i don't know what you're talking about oh he does it daily i can send you women is doing that a lot now like y'all got uh high high expectations of me i'm saying it just. You think not dealing with
Starting point is 00:04:25 a lame is high high or is that like just regular depends on what you consider lame too though. You gotta excuse me because what I think is lame y'all people might not think it's lame. What do you push it as lame? I don't know you just I don't know. I can't really pinpoint it. You just know when you see it. Yeah like bro ain't.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Maybe that girl was always lame. Maybe. And that's why y'all and you and her didn't match. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe I'm that's why you and her didn't match. Maybe, maybe. Maybe I'm lame to somebody too, so I don't know. Do you have an ex in particular when you be writing these raps? No, no, no, no, no. We ain't turning nobody up. We ain't doing that.
Starting point is 00:04:58 So in Delusional, you're not talking about nobody specific because it was given, finding love, currently in love. No, no. Everybody kept saying delusional, delusional. about nobody specific because it was given finding love currently in love no no it was it was it kept everybody kept saying delusional delusional you know what i'm saying i think i think b even had said it to me delusional and i was in the studio you know about what it's the summer time it's a delulu summer you ain't hurt yeah delulu yeah it's been that type of everybody just kept saying like delusion you delusional or anything so So it was just something going on right now. You ever told a girl that?
Starting point is 00:05:27 You delusional. Man, baby bitch, that's my boyfriend. That girl delusional. I never say that. No, I ain't saying that. They trying to get you set up right now. No, I'm really just asking because this game ain't new to me. I guess you're using me.
Starting point is 00:05:39 But for you, I'm delusional. You perfect. You beautiful. I got some bruises, too. It sounds like you spitting right there. I ain't gonna lie In a relationship You have to be Somewhat delusional
Starting point is 00:05:49 About your partner You know what I'm saying Somewhat I feel You know what I'm saying If you ain't delusional About that person Then it ain't really
Starting point is 00:05:56 Gonna work out If you not all the way Strong out on me Like to the full Like it ain't gonna work out But you can't be stupid though Like for example If you dealing with a girl.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Sometimes you get like that. Who's just a straight up smut. No, no, no, no, no. And she know you got a bunch of girls. She can't be delusional, but like, you the only one. Hey, man. Listen, man. Sometimes you got to say you the only one, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:19 What'd you say? I was going to say sometimes. Well, but never mind. Nothing. What'd you say? Lauren's single. And sometime but never mind nothing What'd you say? Lauren's single and she's been looking for a man for a while now
Starting point is 00:06:27 so we call her delusional a lot I'm not delusional I just think that I agree with you that at some point you do have to kind of like
Starting point is 00:06:35 remove critical no that's going to sound dumb not remove critical thinking but sometimes you have to just kind of go with the flow and if you figure out at the end of it
Starting point is 00:06:43 that it's not working and it's not right it's whatever but you are a bit delusional as you're flowing because you want to F around and find out a bit. But I was going to say sometimes as a woman, you have to not fully tell the truth a bit because you got to ease it. You got to ease a guy. You have to ease a guy into being able to take what you're saying to them
Starting point is 00:07:06 without it being an ego trick this is crazy as a man you believe that men do small lies with women sometimes so what lies do you do
Starting point is 00:07:14 they do a lot of lies lying La Rosa that's what he called it they do a lot of lies I'm not saying I'm lying about who I'm with or I'm cheating
Starting point is 00:07:22 I mean like cause he was basically trying to get you to say you be telling people they the only one and they not you do that I did not say it in like a, like I'm lying about who I'm with or I'm cheating. I mean, like, cause he was basically trying to get you to say, you be telling people they the only one and they not. You do that? I did not say, whoa. That's what he was trying to get you to say.
Starting point is 00:07:30 That's like being in the territory. Babyface, just take a step back. Let him go. I did not say that. Babyface, let him go. Let him go. That's why you wasn't about to answer that question. Yeah, I ain't.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Yeah, I thought that. Uh-huh. Let's move on from that. Yeah. Well, anyway. No, but I ain't that type of guy, bro. I ain't that type of guy. I. I ain't that type of guy. I ain't going to say, I ain't going to flat out just blankly be like, you're the only one.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Like, I'm going to treat you as such. I'm going to let my actions show. And she delusionally feels that and goes with it, even if she might not think different. I mean, as in a relationship, people go through stuff. Yeah. You've been through stuff before. I'm sure you've been through stuff before. Like, people go through stuff. Why you ain't say I've been through stuff? You've You've been through stuff before. I'm sure you've been through stuff before. People go through stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:05 But you ain't say I've been through stuff. You seen it. You seen it, man. Everybody knows you. They ain't not seeing that. That's why. Now, I read that you just bought your mama a house, man. Congrats.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah, thank you. Congrats. How you know that? You listen to Sway? I think I was on Sway. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did. How'd that feel?
Starting point is 00:08:20 Feel good. Feel damn good. I ain't gonna lie. I used to have this thing. Once I buy my mama a house, I'm cool. You know what I'm saying? But we're gonna keep going. Keep reaching higher.
Starting point is 00:08:31 When did you know you had got to that point where you were able to do it? Like, were you sitting with your financial advisor? You was like, yeah, I can go buy my mama a house now. I sink the money. Like, hold on. In my mind, I'm doing the right thing. As soon as I get X amount of dollars, I'm buying my mama a house.
Starting point is 00:08:47 So once I got to that, I'm buying my mama a house. It was that simple. You surprised her? Did she know what kind of house she was getting? I called my dad. I didn't tell her.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I called my dad. Yeah, we're going to find a house. He's like, what's the budget? And I told him, he's like, you sure? I'm like, yeah. What was the budget? It was a nice amount. He said, you sure? And he playing, yeah. What was the budget? It was a nice amount.
Starting point is 00:09:06 He said, you sure? And he playing you like you broke, bro. Yeah, because they don't be long. Yeah, look over here, because I wouldn't do that. That is so me, Envy. Why? Why don't you just ask him, is he sure? I am broke.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I threw it on you. I was joking. That's what my mom would do, too. Are you sure my pops do that? Because they want to make sure that we're not spending it over our budget. I mean, they're coming from a lifestyle of not having it make sure That we not spending Over our budget They wanna protect us Yeah You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:09:26 They wanna protect us It's never happened Was she crying Was she What was her She cried She still She might cry
Starting point is 00:09:32 Today She cry all the time You know what I'm saying My mama crazy But that's because She's seeing all of the success And things happen That you said
Starting point is 00:09:38 That you know She's not used to seeing I'm the baby boy too Oh wow So Everything that I do, she be looking at me like, this is crazy. She gonna watch this and be like,
Starting point is 00:09:50 you said mama. Like, that's crazy. So, you gotta support the whole family. The whole family look at you because you the baby boy. You the artist. You making it. 100%. How is that stressful on you? I mean, sometimes it gets stressful because they get a little crazy. When it's all coming to you at once.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Christmas time, Thanksgiving, everybody coming at the same time. I ain't tripping about Christmas time because it's time to give. But when they see you do stuff like buy your mama a house, now those requests get a little crazy. Let me buy 10 grand until Friday, man. Man, hey, for real. How do you deal with stuff like
Starting point is 00:10:21 that, though? I saw an interview where you said, I can't have your problems on me right now. I'm trying to lock in and focus. That don't mean I don't love you or nothing. It's just I'm on a mission right now. So how do you deal with stuff like that, though? I saw an interview where you said, I can't have your problems on me right now. I'm trying to lock in and focus. That don't mean I don't love you or nothing. It's just I'm on a mission right now. So how do you create that barrier of, like, it's not that I don't love you, but not right now? I need to get better at communicating,
Starting point is 00:10:33 because when I get in that mode where I feel like you wearing me down, I just cut off all communication. And I don't be meaning nothing by it, but I be so focused on what I'm trying to do, I feel like you throwing me off. How many siblings you have? I got three. Salute to do, I feel like you're throwing me off. You know what I'm saying? How many siblings you have? I got three. Three.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah. Salute to you too, man. You partnered your Wavy Gang label with Empire. Yeah. What does that mean for you? It means a lot. I don't know too many people that got their own record label, for real, for real.
Starting point is 00:10:58 You know what I'm saying? So for me to have one, it feel good. You know what I'm saying? You feel pressure to, like, I guess, put on more artists from Detroit are you gonna be looking for artists from everywhere
Starting point is 00:11:08 no no I ain't really got that type of pressure like people ain't gonna run up on me I mean they do all the time but I don't feel
Starting point is 00:11:14 no pressure about it I'm a helping guy so if you got good music I can help you know what I'm saying especially while I'm in a position I'm in now
Starting point is 00:11:22 then I'm gonna help you just rappers or R&B everybody yeah R&B, everybody? Yeah, R&B, producers, everything. If it's fire, shit, we can work. Is there more that you want to do in your city just outside of music, community-wise?
Starting point is 00:11:34 I know that you just did the New Balance shoes for the Boys and Girls Club. What else are you looking to do building up-wise? I ain't going to lie, we've been in talks trying to get a school. Oh, wow. What ages? What grades?
Starting point is 00:11:47 They was saying more like high school because we working with a football team now. So I think it'll be cool for us to get a school and build it up and have it under my umbrella and get something going like that. But it's a lot I want to do.
Starting point is 00:11:59 However I can help, I'm going to try to help. That'll be good. Who's all in the Wavy Gang? Who all in the Wavy Gang? We got a lot of people in the Wavy Gang that's not rappers. So I'm just try to help. Dope. Who's all in the Wavy Gang? Who all in the Wavy Gang? We got a lot of people in the Wavy Gang that's not rappers. So I'm just gonna name the people that's, you know. The rappers, the entertainers, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:11 But everybody is in the Wavy Gang. Sammy Shabazz, we got Rockstar Rally, we got World Tour Mafia. Any of my brothers you seen me with. V's, them, all them, we all claim the same thing. Daisy Lane, Losanuddy, you know what I'm saying? Everybody Wavy Gang's been around for real. How many chains you got to buy?
Starting point is 00:12:34 How many chains? Yeah, how many Wavy Gang chains you got to buy? How many chains have I bought? How many you bought? Everybody really bought their own chains that got waves for real. I just recently bought two chains for Samuel Chabaz and Rockstar. And I bought my nephew a chain too. They money, he rap as well. I just recently bought two chains for Samuel Chabaz and Rockstar. And I bought my nephew a chain too.
Starting point is 00:12:47 They money. He rap as well. I saw you say that the entertainment business involves more than just rapping. So when you got the Wavy Gang label deal with Empire, was that part of that? What? Rapping or the business? Yeah, you saying that the entertainment business was more than rapping, more than just rapping. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was me handling my business for sure because we had been talking about it a lot
Starting point is 00:13:06 and I had ideas so much for the artists around me. Gazi was like, you know, we had a conversation. I'm like, you need to just let me get a label and I try to work with the artists. We really was trying to have me like work with the artists in Detroit, but it ain't turn out like that. I just got who I felt like I wanted to work with. What do you want people to take away from this album?
Starting point is 00:13:27 The growth, man. Just see me growing musically. I want people to know that I'm still growing with it. I'm not just trying to put it out. Sometimes artists in the music business now, today they look at it as a cash grab. I want to keep trying to move musically. People still look at albums as cash grabs?
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah and the way it's set up now. Last time you was up here you were talking about the importance of a good team and a good manager. Did you work that all out and find your good team and make sure your people around you? Yeah you see my team behind me. When we handling a business y'all keep my team with me for sure you know what I'm saying. They keep me focused. You know,
Starting point is 00:14:06 they don't leave me slack. Even when I want to be lazy and just do what I want to do and feel like something is not important, they stay on me. You also talked about, you got two sisters with you too.
Starting point is 00:14:15 That's important. Yeah. Two black women? Yeah. They boss you around all day long. No, no, no. I'm a pretty easy going guy, so they ain't got to boss me around.
Starting point is 00:14:23 If it makes sense, I'll do it. Can you say that again for them in the room? Easy going. Easy going, so they don't have to bust me around. If it makes sense, I'll do it. Can you say that again for them in the room? Easygoing. Easygoing, so they don't have to bust you around. Yeah, yeah, they ain't got to do that. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:30 You bust them around? No, look over there. Look, I'm a man. I like direction. I like for a woman to give me direction. Yeah, if it makes sense, though. That's right. She heard GPS broke.
Starting point is 00:14:39 She heard GPS broke. She heard GPS broke. You ain't might just tell me anything, though. Exactly. Now, also, last time we were here, we was talking about acting. Yeah. When you went to get in the acting game. How has that been?
Starting point is 00:14:50 Because Detroit is the biggest place for Tubi, so. Tubi's lit right now. It is. I ain't going to lie. I've been smallly trying to do my thing. Y'all got to go check it out. I got a video called Money on My Mind where I kind of did a little acting. And then my trailer for my album, we did a little acting.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So it's slowly getting to the point where I'm going to try to act a little bit. How did you all connect with Rich Paul for The World Is Yours? Rich Paul, let me say this right too, because the last few interviews I've been doing, I've been saying it wrong. My guy who do clothes by the name of Jack Rip, you know what I'm saying? He connected me with Rich Paul. He called me one day like, you mess with Rich? And I'm saying? He connected me with Rich Paul. He called me one day, like, you mess with Rich? And I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:27 So I got Rich's number. We FaceTimed, and we just was talking. He wasn't even talking about no sports or nothing else. He was talking about music, how he enjoyed it. And we ended up linking in California and doing a song. Oh, he liked your music? Yeah. OK, OK, OK.
Starting point is 00:15:40 He was telling me how he was listening to a song, one Pacific song, during his book release. Which one was it? Congratulations. Lil Yachty, DJ Esco did it. Got you. What other conversations did y'all have? You know, Rich is a wealth of knowledge.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Yeah, yeah. See, everybody say that, but we just be kicking it about music. He be just trying to keep me on game about excelling at music. He'll send me a beat. You might sound fire on this. Attack it like this. You know what I'm saying? He helped me out with my foundation thing back on.
Starting point is 00:16:11 But other than that, we talk about music. Dope. That's lit. What about the legacy record with Doughboy Clay? You said build a legacy before you get to the tomb. Yeah. What kind of legacy do you intend to leave in Detroit? One of the Mot. Yeah. Like, what kind of legacy do you intend to leave in Detroit? Mm.
Starting point is 00:16:27 One of the Motown joints. Like, how everybody know about Motown just being a staple. I want people to remember Babyface right away when we get in like that. You know what I'm saying? Positive, good music.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Mm-hmm. Stuff like that. Man. The title of that song, I don't know why the title of that song just made my, like, heart drop a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Legacy? No, the, what was it? Something the tune was that a line that line that just threw me completely off like I for I think with me when artists have songs like that I guess you have to you do have to think about legacy as you're building but I don't know I just don't it's just a weird feeling to think I didn't I didn't put it in a negative way I know what you mean like the power of the tongue and what you're that way. I didn't put it in a negative way. I know what you mean, like the power of the tongue and what you're saying and stuff. I didn't put it in a negative way. I'm just being honest about life.
Starting point is 00:17:09 The reality is we all going to go. Yeah, for sure. I saw DC Young Fly say that yesterday, and it's true. We all on borrowed time. For sure. He was like, at some point, we all going to end up in that place. We just don't know when. For sure.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It's not like you saying, I want to go to the womb tomorrow. I just don't know. Yeah. Just make it count not like you're saying, I want to go to the womb tomorrow. I just don't know. Yeah. Just make it count while you're here. That's right. Don't be wasting no time. I procrastinated a lot in my younger life, so I'm trying to make it count right now.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I need some motivation. You started with a devotional, which you said, God, you never promised me days without pain, but you did promise me to scrimp for those days. Was there a situation that happened? Do you remember when your faith became so strong? i mean we all got low points feel me so that prayer was like when people play that song once you hear that prayer and understand like you ain't alone because i know people be going through stuff i haven't been through low points i'm sure you've
Starting point is 00:18:00 been through low points where you had to you know what i I'm saying? So, it ain't, I can't name a specific time when it happened, but, you know, that was just for the fans to know, like, you going through something,
Starting point is 00:18:11 you can get through it. Do you have a song on the project that like you're, that's kind of like your favorite out of the 20? I ain't gonna lie,
Starting point is 00:18:17 I've been feeling legacy. Like, before the album came out, I was playing that a lot. You know what I'm saying? Legacy for real. What is it? Because you leaving one, because you building one. I was about to ask, what is it, but it playing that a lot. You know what I'm saying? Legacy, for real. What is it?
Starting point is 00:18:25 Because you're leaving one, because you're building one. I was about to ask, what is it? But it's that. Yeah. I don't have more questions. You're just looking at me for it. Let's get into something. I don't want to step on you.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Let's get into something off the album, then. What you want to hear, Babyface Ray? I don't know. Y'all can just pick whatever y'all get. Just pick one. I wanted to ask one more question, because I know you do so much for Detroit, and I know a lot of times people don't necessarily see all the stuff that you do for the kids in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah. When did that come about? When did you change and say these kids need to see a difference? Because every time I'm in Detroit, and I'm in Detroit a lot, I see you out and about. But not only in the clubs, I see you doing for the youth, right? I see you giving back, whether it was the sneaker thing that she said or the backpacks or the football teams or whatever it may be.
Starting point is 00:19:04 When did you feel like that was what I need to do because you do it so much? And a lot of times people don't necessarily talk about it because I was actually looking for an article where they talk about it. I see it, but I didn't see any articles talking about the things that you do. Once we built our foundation, you know what I'm saying, once we built it, we already knew what we wanted to do. So we started doing workshops for all the kids. And I got kids.
Starting point is 00:19:24 My brothers got kids. So we already dealing, like, workshops for all the kids. And I got kids. My brothers got kids. So we already dealing with our kids. So it was important to, like, start helping the kids around. Like you say, when you come in the city,
Starting point is 00:19:32 you're going to see me out. So it ain't make no sense for me to be bouncing through there in luxury cars and not giving back. You know what I'm saying? So I wanted to help and reach out
Starting point is 00:19:40 and touch the kids in a way where they remember that someone like me helped. You know what I'm saying? Why is it so important for, especially Detroit artists, I see this a lot in Detroit, where Detroit artists stay in Detroit. Like a lot of times you see people from other markets and they go to another city, another state, like they move away.
Starting point is 00:19:57 But, you know, I done been in seeing you in your hood. I done pulled up on you. So why is that so important to you? It be, it's rough, real like, cause even my, like, no, they still want me to get away. You know what I'm saying? But it'd be hard because of my family and what I got going on. But I did have a theory in my mind that I wanted to stay in Detroit and, like, get it going to where High Atlanta is and High California is.
Starting point is 00:20:18 You know what I'm saying? And how they strong and what they got going on. But it get rough out here. You know what I'm saying? The love that you think you may got, it might not be like that for real. I'm still kind of 50-50 on how I want to play if I still want to be there. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure you move a certain way, though.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, I move a certain way. You move militant, I'm sure. But some days I might be riding Dolo. My pops might call, I'm like, what you doing? Who you with? By myself. You tripping, man. Get somebody with you.
Starting point is 00:20:44 You think you will see a day like how Kendrick did in L.A. where he brought everybody on that stage? You think we can see that in Detroit? We somewhat had that day. Doug had a concert. Doug did, yeah. Yeah, where it kind of reunited both sides. That was kind of few before.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Even though we had conversations prior to the concert behind the scenes, but I think that day kind of showed, like, unity. But it's still more work to do it's still artists that's few in but they might not show it but we got to get past that you know what i'm saying so maybe that day coming i don't know what is the detroit street politics though i don't understand that like is it beyond the music it's real stuff going on that y'all know about all right so you know how that is speaking of kendrick um he dropped a song where he's talking about like we need more substance in media and music all of that stuff and i know you talked earlier about t
Starting point is 00:21:32 grizzly and one of the things i like about detroit artists is the way that you guys storytell yeah music yeah do you feel like right now that we were having this conversation the other day that things are shifting more toward that and that's why people are receiving you so well do you think that music is at a place where you pick and choose what you want to hear? It depends on the artist. I think Kendrick can do that
Starting point is 00:21:51 because that's the type of artist he is. Now, if you're not an artist known for doing that, that might not work for you. You know what I'm saying? Like, even if you try to switch over to it,
Starting point is 00:21:59 it might not work. I don't think we're switching toward that. I think people know what's right and what's wrong and what they want to hear. Somebody told me the other day, it might not work. I don't think we're switching towards that. I think people know what's right and what's wrong and what they want to hear. Somebody told me the other day that our audience is not maturing as much as the artists may be. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:16 That's crazy. Young Miami was told that too. Yeah, so even when we might figure out the information and try to kick it back into music, they might be like, what you want? They don't really know for real. I think it's shifting, but it might be a little, take a little time.
Starting point is 00:22:31 But I think it's the way you do it too, right? Like when you on I Need a Motivation and you rapping, I Need Some Motivation, you rapping about God, that's your way of doing it. Yeah. I just think it's just all about how you do it. Yeah, how you present it. But does it make it hard for you when you do stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:22:45 but then you're told your audience isn't maturing with you? Like, how do you figure out who are you talking to now? And who told you that? The label? Man, my partner told me that. We were sitting in the car kicking it. He told me that. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:58 So it wasn't like a statistic? No, no, no statistics. Just like the homie? Okay. We were just talking about growing and things we know now versus what we, you know what I'm saying, music and stuff like that. He was just saying, like, the audience might not be maturing how we mature. So you got to sometimes, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I've also seen Rolling Stone asking you about being underrated. Yeah. And you were saying you don't feel underrated because of these artists. Yeah, I don't feel underrated because of these artists. Yeah, I don't feel underrated. I go in the rooms and get the same respect as any other artist. It's just how I carry myself. It may seem like I'm underrated. I'm kind of like I'm to myself.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I don't bother nobody. I don't want to be in nobody's mix. I don't care what you are doing. I'm doing my thing. You know what I'm saying? So if you don't see me in a lot of places, you might feel like I'm underrated. So when you see Hov put you on a playlist,
Starting point is 00:23:48 is it surprising to you or? I thought it was like some PR. Hey, I'm like, ain't no way Hov put me on a playlist.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And Hov tapped in? You don't think you're listening? Yeah, for sure. I know now, you know what I'm saying? So now that I know,
Starting point is 00:24:00 it's like, that's lit because we listen to Hov. So to be accepted by Hov and guys like Future accepting us, like, that's a big thing like that's lit because we listen to Hov so to be accepted by Hov and guys like Future accepting us like that's a big thing
Starting point is 00:24:09 because that's all we used to listen to so ain't no way I feel underrated Hov tapped in who don't know who tapped in he didn't reach out
Starting point is 00:24:16 after that no conversation after no no we was just talking about that I went to the game it was floor season he was across
Starting point is 00:24:20 and they was texting my phone like walk up on Hov I'm like you can't just walk up on Hov he hit me with the and he was across and they was texting my phone like, walk up on home. I'm like, you can't just walk up on home, bro. He would have, nah. I think he would have. I think he would have.
Starting point is 00:24:27 He hit me with the, you know what I'm saying? He hit me with, I accepted that. Like, yeah, I take that. Don't be too cool to go talk to the OG. I'm going to say it on record. Don't be too cool. I did attempt. Nah, what about that?
Starting point is 00:24:39 What about I did attempt? And the security guards was like, I ain't want to tell y'all, I got blazed. Oh, you see, you ain't say that. Yeah, I got blazed. Oh, you see, you ain't say that. Yeah, I got blazed. How close did you get? It was like I was over here and I'm telling security like, Hov know me.
Starting point is 00:24:54 It's babyface Ray. It's babyface Ray over here. And I watched him tell him, and Hov blazed me. But it's cool. Damn. It's cool. I don't believe it. What game was it? Man, KD, we really was going on behalf of KD.
Starting point is 00:25:06 It was me and KD. I think they was playing. I don't know who they was playing, but I know this was when KD was there. I'm sure y'all will do that again. Because Rich Paul and J-Z and Hov got a connection. A lot of people don't even have a J-Z story, so at least you got one. You know what I mean? It just-
Starting point is 00:25:22 I didn't even want to say that. It's a J-Z story. So you'll never try it again if you see him somewhere? It's got to be different circumstances. Y'all just walking by each other in the hall. Stopping him. Even if it's the same security guard. If you see the guard.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Stopping him. Lips out. Like, remember this lip? It's me. Yeah, I'm outside your mom's house. Why you being weird to me? For real. Well, let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Hold on. I want to ask one more question about the label. Are labels still important? Labels? Yes. What you mean? Are they just important for artists nowadays? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Because you trying to go in a direction of being an independent artist and stuff like that. Whatever suits you. If you got the drive to do everything on your own, then do everything on your own. We not knocking you. Go get that money. Do everything you need to do. But some people need to be told what to do you know i'm saying some people need direction some people need a team different ideas they're not as creative as you know i'm saying a yay or you know i'm saying so whatever works for you i see people talking
Starting point is 00:26:20 about being an independent artist but they're not telling you it's a lot of work that come behind that you know so if you don't have the work ethic to do everything on your own, don't even try it. You're just going to be sitting in a room looking stupid talking about you're an independent artist. It ain't going to work for you. So whatever works for you. Did you ever try to highlight Future?
Starting point is 00:26:37 Or he curbed you too? No, no, no. Why you say it like that? So you met Future before? Yeah, for sure. Okay. Tell him to stop playing with you. I don't want to ask him.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I don't be getting blazed. That's why I don't... Don't think I'm... You said blazed? Don't think I'm... Or blagued. Don't y'all have a dance? Blazed?
Starting point is 00:26:52 Oh, blagued, yeah. Okay. I don't be getting blazed. Like, I don't really put myself out there to be rejected. How long ago was that, though? Jesus Christ, man. Was that before or after he put you on the playlist?
Starting point is 00:27:03 This when I came and saw y'all. Oh, okay, okay. It was 2022. You ain't seen on my face in the breakfast club. I had the Jay just blazed me face. Wow. I feel like I should pause that. I feel like I need to pause that.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Pause what? The Jay just blazed me face? Man, I don't be playing like that. What's wrong with you, man? Ever since the big deal, he been kinky. You been watching too much Cam and Mase, bro. He been,
Starting point is 00:27:28 he was locked into the Diddy trial all day. Yeah, ever since the baby oil, he been real kinky the last couple days. But anyway. Not true.
Starting point is 00:27:35 That's not true. He was born this way. Let's get into a joint off the aisle. What you want here? Wavy Navy Universe. Okay. All right. With V's.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Yeah. All right. Let's get into that now. Ladies and gentlemen, it's the Breakfast Club is babyface ray wake that ass up in the morning the breakfast club

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