The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Beenie Man On Returning To America, The Spirit Of Dancehall, High Energy Shows + More

Episode Date: March 24, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Beenie Man To Discuss Returning To America, The Spirit Of Dancehall, High Energy Shows. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee ...omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:15 Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ, Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne, The Guy, We Are The Breakfast Club, Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess, and we got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. The king of dance hall, my brother, Beanie Man, welcome. Zaga.
Starting point is 00:02:32 How you feeling, man? I'm feeling good, man. Good to see you, man. How does it feel, how important is it to have access to America again? Well, it's a very important thing, because when you don't have access to America, you have access to the rest of the world.
Starting point is 00:02:47 But America is a place that you can work every week. Yeah, so it's really a nice accent. You got to get that money. Yes, you got to get the money. It's been 13 years? Yes, 13 years. So for people that don't know, what happened? Because you are always here.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I thought you even had a house here. Me myself don't even know what happened because you are always here. I thought you even had a house here. Me myself don't even know what happened. But things happen. We're Jamaican, so we're getting a privilege to come to America. I think something happened, and they just beat everybody for it. But it's loosened up now.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Everybody's been releasing, and everybody's getting their visa back. Yeah, it's a good thing. People would think that it would be different because Trump's in office, and he's actually trying visa back. So yeah, it's a good thing. People would think that it would be different because Trump's in office and he's actually trying to get people out, so people think it would be more difficult, but it wasn't. No, it wasn't. It was nice.
Starting point is 00:03:32 It was a nice thing because it just gave me a chance to tour the rest of the world. You know, so I've been to Africa a few times then, but now I've been to Africa like I lived there. And I'm going to England like I lived there, going to Europe like I lived there. So we get chance to visit the rest of the world. Spiritually, when you have those type of setbacks,
Starting point is 00:03:52 those type of, I guess, obstacles, how do you embrace it? By doing music. I'm making the fans know that we're still here, we're still alive, and we're just waiting to get to them one more time. Yeah. So gotta embrace it. Yeah, I was gonna talk about, um, I saw you bring out Maya on stage.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah, in Miami. That was like the first time in, yeah, 10 years, right? Yeah. For, uh, that moment for you, how does that feel? Well, it's always a great feeling to work with Maya on stage because she's a great performer and a great entertainer and a great person and she has a nice personality and people do love her. So she bring a different energy to the show.
Starting point is 00:04:28 So, you know, ready a car up in a club show, or outdoor event, she always do good. And you know, as an artist, that's the type of artist that you need with you on stage. Are there other artists now that you've done collabs with in the past that are hitting you like, hey, since you're able to perform in the US now, like we need to have that Maya moment too? Yeah are hitting you like, hey, since you're able to perform in the US now,
Starting point is 00:04:45 we need to have that Maya moment too? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. But you have to just have the right time and the right place. Mm-hmm. Are you ever surprised about how timeless your music still is? Like, zaga zaga, still hit to this day.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Well, you see, you cannot surprise when you make good music. When you make good music is lifetime music. Because as people always say, only play off and sing as an instrument will be there when the gate of Zion is open. So all you have to do is make sure that your music is there. From your music is there, you are representing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:19 When the gate of Zion is open. So it's a spiritual process. Yeah, well, everything is a spiritual process, you know, because life is a gamble. Every morning you wake up, you have to give thanks. Yeah. Do you feel the, it feels like the people have been embracing dancehall music and reggae music more in the last couple of
Starting point is 00:05:36 years, right? We've seen it with Buju, we've seen it with yourself, we've seen it with vibes. Does it feel different now than it was, let's say, 10 years ago? No, well, it's say, 10 years ago? No, well, it's... Especially here in America.
Starting point is 00:05:47 All right. The difference is, um, the original formation of the music is always there. So it feels different because we are here now. It's not like the younger generation alone is out there trying to push the music. We from the 90s are here right now. So we're still here doing the music as though we know the music to be done.
Starting point is 00:06:11 So that's the different feelings between the music three years ago from the music today because we are back. Why do you feel like the music from a couple of years ago doesn't transcend like that music from the 90s? Because they feel like they come and go, but now it's, people are going back to that era of music, back of that film. Yeah, right. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:36 You see, music always have a phase. Every music, hip hop, R&B, each and every music in the world have a phase. Sometimes them mix the music with the other genre of music, other beats mixed up with it, what do you call it, fusion. Yeah, sometimes they fuse the music. That's what happened to dancehall. Dancehall have been fused. But don't get it confused because the artists, them really are spit lyrics and they're really chatting the same way. But I don't think they're getting across to the audience like how we get across to the audience. So I feel like sometimes when you're chatting some lyrics you're straight like an highway. Sometimes you have to
Starting point is 00:07:11 have some curves. So sometimes you got to learn to sing, take a note, do something, make a difference to the music. So I think that's the difference between us. Like we'd have come and say, memories don't live like people do. Then we'd have come with the voice-over, down in the past. It's a whole different genre of music. So now you have them just come on. They can take it, they can take it, they can take it, they can take it, they can take it, they can take it,
Starting point is 00:07:32 they can take it, they can take it, they can take it, you see, that's the difference. So whenever music with a melody and more understanding and people can dance to and play for their kids and play for their grandmothers, I'll call them woman come out at 98 and said, being the money of my DJs, it's feeling good to know that people like in those age
Starting point is 00:07:51 and those categories can look at you and say, you sing my favorite song, so yeah. I always wonder what that line meant. You said memories don't live like people do? Yeah. What do you mean by that? Memories don't live like people do. I feel like memories live long?
Starting point is 00:08:04 You're being dead, that's what I'm saying. Oh, god damn it. You fuck, I'm an idiot. Yeah, what do you mean by that memories don't live like people? I feel like memories Do you feel like afro beats took some of the dancehall stunder It's not only the thunder. Because you see, the music is, the drum is from Africa. Anyway, so we took their drums. See? So that's our music is, they come from Congo drums and all these drums. Any drums you hear is from Africa. But we put in a different manner, because we come from reggae music, which reggae music is the original one drop,
Starting point is 00:08:49 but we just add three drop to the beat so we can dance to it, rock to it more, we can do more styling. But what Afro music did, it's wake up Africa, because there's a lot of people that live in Africa, that live from dancehall music and reggae music all their life. So if them come now with that original sound, which is not an original sound, they have a piece of our one still but you know it's their drums so you can't
Starting point is 00:09:17 really argue with it. But if they come with a music that the country, the whole entire continent of Africa can follow is a great move. Because you have one city of 20 million people, you have one city of the next 26 million people. So if them can get all of them people there to follow their music, the world is gonna follow. Yeah, so it was a good move and a great gesture on their behalf.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Do you feel like this new generation of dancehall artists are representing the culture right? Well, it depends on their culture. Yeah, my culture is morals and you have to have more morality when it comes to the music and you have to respect where the music is coming from and respect the elders in the music. I don't think some of these young artists respect
Starting point is 00:09:58 the elders in the music and they don't respect where the music is coming from. They respect where the music is at today. They have no respect where the music is coming from. They respect where the music is at today. Famous, buy a car, get a house, music is not about that. The music is about longevity, long living, keeping yourself alive. Because I can say, Robert, Nesta, Marley died,
Starting point is 00:10:17 but Bob Marley is still alive today. And that's what the music is. Are you ready? I'm sorry, Alon. I was gonna say, what does respect, I'm sorry, Lone. What does, okay. I was gonna say ask what does respect look like from the new generation? Yeah, well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I wouldn't know because, you know, we don't deal with a lot of these young generations because they don't deal with us. So, you know, I can't talk about me. I can't talk about the next one. But you have, I'll actually move, we are bound with the love of the music within them. So them love the music from a mother's point of view,
Starting point is 00:10:54 or a father's point of view, or a big brother point of view. You know, sometimes you will find out some person say, yo, me used to say, Bunti when me I grew up, and me used to say, Beanie Man, and their sisters and brothers. So, you know, that's how the music used to go but this time of today our man is a man every man is on their own so it's not like no one helping nobody else and it's not like you going in there helping an ex-artist and you don't even business this artist want to say that you help him or not you just know that
Starting point is 00:11:21 you put in your two cents and make him a firm and a better person. Why do you think that is though if you look at pop music you look at country music you'll see the the elder statesman working with the younger artists and making music but you never see that in reggae music you don't see that in dance hall you don't see definitely don't see that in hip-hop yeah it's there in dance hall but as know. But as what I'm saying, a little while ago, it's like people get help, but they don't appreciate help. They don't come out and say, oh, you know, that man put me in the studio the first time.
Starting point is 00:11:55 They just remember the first it they get. They remember when them try and try and try until you succeed. And that's what dance hall music is about. And that's what it was about. And that's what dancehall music is about, and that's what it was about, and that's what it's supposed to be always about. So each one help one. In Jamaican motto, that's what it is, out of many one people.
Starting point is 00:12:14 So we as a people know that we supposed to come together and help the youth. But if the youth don't want to take help, I cannot bust a brain and put the words or the melody inside it. Yeah. is there any young artists right now in particular that like you wrapping your arms around that's doing it right that's doing like the respect and yeah well I respect each and every man from the genre you don't have to like a person to respect them job you know you don't have to be a friend with
Starting point is 00:12:42 a person to respect what he's doing so I do respect the effort that they put out and they try hard, you know. So I respect all young artists, every one of them, you know, seriously, because it's not easy to face a 20,000 crowd. It's not easy to face 40,000, 50,000 people. It's not an easy thing. You have a man who get nervous breakdown backstage, you know, you have to tell him, say, no man, just take a deep breath and hide these things.
Starting point is 00:13:13 They have to take deep breaths, because you have a man nervous before them going on stage. Even me, sometimes you get butterflies. Still? Yeah, because too much confidence cause distraction. You get that confidence when you go on that stage and the people go wow they say okay I got it now. Boom I moved you but sometimes you go on stage with too much confidence and say yo I have this and you end up
Starting point is 00:13:40 flapping. You don't want that. I did that first show on America, Phil, when you came back. Did you have those butterflies? What? You haven't performed in a place in 13 years. And now you're performing for different type of people. You're performing for the working class people that left work, go home, left home, go to work. This is their time to go out and party. So the only time them listen to a Beanie Man is either on the radio or watching TV or on the YouTube or anywhere
Starting point is 00:14:12 else. But they don't really go to a Beanie Man show. So these are the type of audience that we have at this Jazz in the Garden show. But when you go on stage and you do the first ooh na na na na na na na na na na and you do reaction from the audience, then you know you got them. Yeah, so you just give them music, it's after it, song after song, it's after it, song after song.
Starting point is 00:14:37 You don't make the vibe drop. When the vibe drop, you have something to say, but make sure it's something that keeping the vibes up. So yeah, I did have a little butterfly there because it's really itching going backstage with my entrance and team, but it just worked out right. I was going to ask too, you know, dance hall is very competitive. Yeah. And back then you guys were warring.
Starting point is 00:15:01 You're like, it was a competitive sport and like y'all were going back and forth. But was there a mutual respect there? The reason I say that because in hip-hop it seems like they want to kill each other after those type of battles but you guys felt like it got there as many times but we've never seen any bloodshed, we've never seen any fist fights and nothing like that but it was still competitive. Yeah well you see, alright, when it comes to competition and competing with another artist, you just have to respect the artist for who he is. You know?
Starting point is 00:15:31 So you know, on stage, we're no friends. Backstage, we'll call to each other. That's it. It don't have to be violent. It don't have to be me send my friend to shoot after you, or you send your friend to step on my corner. It's a feeling of mine. It all depends on who the person is and where the person is from.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Because you have artists who are real gangsters, you know, and before them becomes a superstar. So you just make that highlight. You don't have to highlight it because you have people who know who you was and what you used to do. So a next brother come to you, he just know, say him come with utmost respect but when it come to stage and showing lyrics, there's no respect in showing lyrics but there's respect in you see the person, he goes boom, if you don't have to boom him, sorry nothing, you just acknowledge. There's respect in acknowledgement. So if you acknowledge that person and know that person will go there with you, if you acknowledge that person and notice that person, we'll go there with you. If you try to go there with that person.
Starting point is 00:16:29 You don't try to start nothing. If you don't want nothing. So after a sound clash, if the person doesn't give you a fist bump or something that's... No, well, you come off the stage with all that. You got some people who's ignorant, but they put arrogance in the ignorant. So ignorant but they put arrogance in the
Starting point is 00:16:45 ignorant so then when you put arrogance in the ignorance, they can't have a right to be mad and you know you don't make no sense so sometimes you just slow it down by good night tonight when we see our next night it's gonna be my night so that is it you just slow down all of that right there. So sometimes when you just say it becomes a violent argument, sometimes you just be the better man and smile, you know? Yeah. You ever been on stage with an artist and didn't like how they was performing and snatched the mic from them or something like this?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Well, sometimes you got to... Bini has done that. Yeah. Bini has done that. I'm not going to be like, yeah, no, I didn't do that. No, I've done that a lot of times. Because sometimes you have artists that jump on the stage and snatch the mic from you. You have to snatch it back.
Starting point is 00:17:36 You don't want to disrespect him, say, bring him out to the front and make the people them know that. This is a young artist who's trying, you know, yeah. Somebody came and snatched a mic from you? What? I was last year I was on the stage doing my thing the show was in fire and the mic is gone. What? Who was it? Who did that? Some young kid you know so I have to make him know on stage right here that this is not how you do it you know so I have to yeah I have to make him know on stage right here that this is not how you do it you know yeah and people want to take him off the stage but I said let's leave him alone give him a chance all right boom do what you're gonna do he never did well so that make it bad for him because the people was getting really rowdy so I have to get back the crowd together and boom the show
Starting point is 00:18:23 is happy and up again. Do you ever have to prove yourself because you got hard music, you got gangster music, but you got a lot of music for the women? Yeah, I'm the girls and sugar. That's right. Did people ever think you were sweet for that and you had to prove yourself, like play if you want? Did that ever happen? I think every time I go on a stage with other artists, I have to end up proving myself.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Really? Not Beanie Man, the king of dancehall? No, but trust me, because you see, alright. When I'm on a stage show with everybody else, like say I'm on a Sunfest bill, you know, not a Beanie Man in concert, so I'm in a summer festival. It took me to walk backstage enough. I have to just walk backstage and every artist is backstage because I'm not wondering if I'm going to work now, I'm going to work before him, all of that. That was never my problem. Whether I work first, in the middle, or close the show, my time is my time. But what I like to do is watch the artists who are working before me to see the vibes that they're pushing
Starting point is 00:19:26 to know exactly what I have to do. Because if you stay back there or stay in your truck and you don't know what vibes go on, the man that worked the very first could took the show and you don't know. So this is how I build my vibes. I build my vibes from your energy. No negativity, but your energy.
Starting point is 00:19:45 So if I don't have to change the starting of the show, if I don't have to change the middle of the show, I don't have to. But you watch the artists and see other artists bring the crowd, you need to keep the crowd either high at that level or higher than that. So you always start, get a middle, keep the people with them them up and end with that energy that you need to end with. Because you end it with an energy that you need, what do you call it? An encore. But you can't do no encore because your time is up. So you end with that energy, people shouting for more. So this is the reason why I said you have a competition every night when you go on stage. But when it's you in concert, the only competition you have is the energy from the people
Starting point is 00:20:28 Now speaking of your concert and your tours the name of this tour is the king of the dance hall tour Yeah I know there's back and forth with the vibes cartel and the fans trying to figure out king of the dance hall But the you're this is the the dethroning this tour right here But I'm not dethroning no one. I don't come to talk about people. I'm a king because of my music and my longevity in the music and still being here. I've been here since the 80s through the 90s and I'm still here doing the same thing.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So, yeah. So, you know, I don't have to compare myself with people. People try to compare themselves with me. It's a good thing because every artist that busses in this music business since me busses, they compare me to them. So it's a great thing to call up, your name called up with a young fresh artist. So it's a great thing. I'm not fighting it, not disputing it, but you know, that's what it is, what it is. Do you think that's why one of the reasons artists always want to challenge you though?
Starting point is 00:21:28 Because you call yourself the king, the king. I don't think God, didn't I call myself the king? I was crowned king. Oh, oh, okay. Yeah, big difference, yeah. Now I also wanted to ask, new music, are you working on new music? Yeah, I'm working on an album right now. Yeah, I got a new music out with me and Etana.
Starting point is 00:21:49 It's called Guide Over Us. Yeah, it's produced by Kemar Maregga. And majority of this album will be produced by me and Kemar Maregga. We're going to have other producers. So yeah, we're working on a new album right now. But this is the new singer. it's called Guide of Us. I was gonna ask you, do you still get inspired?
Starting point is 00:22:08 What still inspires you to do new music? Cause you got classic, you got hits, you don't like to do new music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the people, the fans. Because you see, the fans, when you go out there, they ask, when are we gonna get a new giant? When a new giant is gonna jump? When you gonna put out this?
Starting point is 00:22:23 When you gonna put out that? So that continuously have you in the studio. Because I went in the studio the other night and I did a song with Freddie Brown, he's a house music producer. And that beat was so wicked that I have to jump a wicked check on it. And you know, this is how the music goes. Music take me here, music take me there, music take me to Africa to do some Afrobeat. I do, I have a new song with Maya to come out right now. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:26:15 I make up about that juicy rhythm with, you know, that biggie, small rhythm. Yeah, I'm trying to get Snoop up in there, so yeah. I'm so stupid to do it. Do you have to change any of your lyrics from back then? Because back then in the 90s and 2000s, there was words that we used that can't be used now. There was songs that can't be used.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Which ones? You know which ones. Yeah, yeah, but you see, music is adapt and adjust. So if that's what going on, you gotta adapt and adjust. So if that's what going on, you got to adapt and adjust to the vibe that's going on. Because in Jamaica, we were just singing for Jamaica. We didn't know that the music gonna go worldwide international.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Once the music go worldwide international, you have to sing for the world to understand where you're coming from. So you have to make some adjustment. You have to look back and be like, damn, we used those words back then. That was the times though. Yeah, those were the times.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Those were the times when we used to do the music the way like we love it. But now the people is into the music, you have to do music for people. So you're not doing we music, my music, my music for me, you're doing the world music. So do the world a favor, Play what they want to hear. I love what you said earlier too about artists
Starting point is 00:27:27 just doing the music and they were doing it just to get the cause and just to get the look. I feel like the reason people have always loved reggae music is because it has an intention. Yeah. So what is your intention when you recall? All right, just to put it like this. When I just started out, when I was like five years of age,
Starting point is 00:27:46 and I started to do stage at age seven, I never know that money come with music. I never know that. You're doing it for the love. Yeah, I'm doing it because I was born a Stammer kid and music is what made me talk today, so we can have a conversation. Because I sing all the time, I sing everything. I used to sing the reading book in the school I used to sing the
Starting point is 00:28:07 list to shop everything so I can really talk so what I did the music for is to get my speech up to date so I can speak to people straight so when I start to make money from music is when I used to go in DJ competition, DJ contest. You got 40 artists there, but I could do three things. I could sing, I could chart, and I could dance. So I entered the dancing competition, Breeze. I entered the singing competition, Breeze. When I entered the DJ competition now, it's a difference because DJ show world and each other. So if you're good enough, you can build a lyrics backstage. You have a lyrics that already built, but incorporating a next guy name into it,
Starting point is 00:28:54 this is how the DJ business goes. So, you know, sometime when I said I started out age five as a DJ, people think I used to play music. I play music. Yeah, I play records, I play CDs, I play music. Because without you knowing music, you're nowhere in music. So the DJ and the competition and the interest in music,
Starting point is 00:29:19 it just came from loving the music. It's not really, you know, you get up and say, I'm gonna be rich. because you never know that money, I never know that money was into it. Until I saw King Yellam and he come out and buy a car and walk in Jularama, I'm like, what? That's what you becomes when you becomes a star. So yeah, I try to fight to be a star.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I love what you said about the, you said you had a speech impediment. Yeah. Who taught you that? Like who said, you know what, if you sing everything it'll teach you how to do it? Nobody taught me, I really do taught myself. So God just said, hey sing. Yeah, yeah. I think that just come in my head and it's just, bam. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah, because every time I'm in school and the teacher call me up and give me the reading book, everybody know they're going to get something. So the whole classroom is like this. Yeah, because they know I'm not going to read that. Everybody knows I'm a stem of kids, so they know there's no reading going on. So you had a bad experience, like the first time you had to read out loud or something? No, it's not really that. I couldn't form a full sentence in less than 10 minutes. Trust me, it was hard. You have to stamp your feet, beat your chest, do all
Starting point is 00:30:35 different type of things. Yeah, so I realized that when I started singing, I don't stop. Because as a kid you have a thing near got me got a little lamp, old McDonald have a farm. He, I, he, I, you sing all that. But you turn all of that into lyrics. So you just move there, move from here, move from there, move from there, till you start to figure out that. When you do this thing, it make you speak better.
Starting point is 00:30:58 You never thought about doing a children's album? And just singing all them songs? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought about it all the time, but it's not really my thing. But yeah, it's a music thing, sis.
Starting point is 00:31:12 So if I can get some reggae and some dance all together and put some children's song together, but I'd rather write my original children's song more than go from Old Madonna to Love. It's just incredible how God works. Like, you know, something that some people would look at and say, oh, this is an impediment, this might hold me back in life.
Starting point is 00:31:28 It actually propelled you to be who you are. Yeah. This is not about the children's songs. I was sitting here thinking, I remember you guys had the verses. And I was wondering, because during that time, you couldn't, you're talking about how much money you make here in the US. You couldn't come here.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I hear a lot of US artists talk about how the verses that they do help them make so much money and the catalog numbers go up. What did it do for you at that time and how did it help because you couldn't come here and tour and stuff? Trust me, my Cadillac numbers go up like seriously. My Cadillac, it was just, my Cadillac becomes a Cadillac.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Your catalog became a Cadillac. That's right. It just, whoop, and just move off. Like seriously, you get more listeners who never used to listen to you, you know, you got more streamers who never used to stream. So yeah. And what happened,
Starting point is 00:32:22 that police officer just walked in your house? Walked in your house? Yeah, he just walk in tight. Just boom. Is that how it works in Jamaica? just walk in your house? Walk to the street? Yeah, he just walked inside. Just boom. Is that how it works in Jamaica? Just open the door and just come on in? Well, all right. Everybody was focusing on what was going on.
Starting point is 00:32:32 So nobody was focusing on... So for people that don't know, during the versus, a cop just walked right into the room and was like, hey! Hey, what's going on here? And I was like, what? We got millions of people and they're live now. So what you want to do? He started talking about COVID. Oh, it is something like we're home.
Starting point is 00:32:52 So he talking like you want to get serious. Do you want to be that guy? You look into himself and say no. That's true. Yeah, so cops do that. That cause they feel they have a right. Anyway, they see like cars gather, even though the door, the gate is closed
Starting point is 00:33:10 and it's indoor area, they feel like they are the police. So they have to come find out what's going on. It's not like they didn't know what's going on. They just wanna come show their face. I see with them at the time. But at the time we were taking a break, that's why we could say, what's going on? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:29 It was like the only time I've ever seen a versus battle like interrupted like a party, like, yo, y'all make it too much noise. Kind of, yeah. It felt like it was making bad decisions. Yeah, like I was like, what the heck? And you were so, you handled it so well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Well, you see, the police officers, they're waiting for you to disrespect so they can do their thing. You know? So you just angle it in the best way you can. Just do that in the best of your ability to make them know, say, we're not disrespecting no one. We're in a closed door, indoor area.
Starting point is 00:33:59 We're not outside. We're not harboring nobody. You come in there, you see everybody in their masks. Everybody's good. It's only we know who's under versus just doing it raw. And I never want to do a versus like upstays and downstays gathering thing, you the dear and me the writer.
Starting point is 00:34:18 So we get the studio and we just go in the studio and just do it right there. Because this is our Jamaican role. Why did you have to, why was Trinidad and Tobago so mad? Just because you say you don't like doubles, man. Well, you see, people get mad at things. Yeah, it wasn't even necessary for them to get mad. So, you know, that's how it goes.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And I don't think Trinidad and Tobago get mad at us. Some people just trying to say that. Yeah, yeah, that was the headline. And it made it seem like the whole Trinidad and Tobago get mad. Some people just trying to say that. Yeah, yeah, that was the headline. And it made it seem like the whole Trinidad was mad at you. No, that's crazy. I watch the airport and I take pictures with Trinidadians every day. I go to Jamaica, I take pictures with Trinidadians
Starting point is 00:34:56 and Tobagans every day. So if they were mad at me, they would have tell me personally. Yeah. They probably whisper to you, I don't like doubles either. Seriously. Seriously. I was going to say how are you dealing with social media?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Because we came up in an era where there was no social media. I mean you walk down the street, people take a picture. How are you dealing with social media and people picking apart your life? I deal with it because I don't have a phone. I don't have to look at it every day. You don't have a phone? No. That's a blessing. Oh wow, I didn't know a phone. I don't have to look in it every day. You say you don't have a phone? No, I don't. That's a blessing. Oh, wow, I didn't know what I would do.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Oh, I got people around me that phone. It was very difficult that you'd be on the phone. It was very difficult. I was going to put that out there. No Instagram, no quick little Insta stories. That's a peaceful life. I don't do that. I don't do that because I got too much problems in my life.
Starting point is 00:35:41 My real life, I got too much problems. I got, you know, my life. My real life, I got too much problems. Not problem, problem, problem, but you got mouths to feed. When you sit down and look on certain things, it bring you back, make you get mad and crazy over nothing because anything people say about you is publicity. If people call your name every day,
Starting point is 00:36:04 that's every day somebody's talking about you. The only thing bad a man can say about you is publicity. If people call your name every day, that's every day somebody's talking about you. The only thing bad a man can say about you is when they say you're dead and you cannot come back and say, nah, I'm not dead. So anything bad they say, you can counteract with goodness. So I don't listen to social media. I like it because the music is, what do you call it? Evolving, you know? And evolution is a must. That's what they say in science. So when they come with all this technology and everything,
Starting point is 00:36:37 regardless of you is a part or a part of what, this is a part of the world and this is what happening with the world today. So you can just adjust and adapt or just leave it alone. That's how I know you're an original and you don't care about what other people think. No, I don't care. But a lot of times people have social media
Starting point is 00:36:53 just because they have a fear of missing out. Yeah, I'm not into that. I don't have a fear of missing out because I will always be here. I sing Sim Simmer, come on. That's right. Sim Simmer, we have a producer named Sim Simmer. So because you're such a positive person and like your spirit is so common, how do you deal with stuff? Like I saw when your
Starting point is 00:37:13 daughter, you guys are going back and forth where she had made those statements and then you guys had to come out with a statement and I was like I've never seen you involved. I was not going back and forth. People were trying to react to her because I always have this thing as I am father, she's daughter thing. Yeah. If she have a problem, she come to me. See, but you see, sometimes people that you think not going to do certain things, they
Starting point is 00:37:36 are the one that surprise you. Like, ta-da, surprise. Your statement, you seemed hurt by how to even respond publicly to her. Trust me, because you see, the problem is, he's only your own kid can make you feel a certain way. You see when you dedicate your life to take care of a person and a person dedicated their life to bring your life down you're gonna be hurt regardless of what. Yeah so yeah she did hurt some feelings but I move on and I get over that. Y'all good now?
Starting point is 00:38:07 Yeah, no, but she's good. She's a 30-odd-year-old woman, so she know to balance up herself, and she's all right. You ever question yourself, like, what did I do wrong? Did I do something wrong? Yeah, I always do that, because when, you know, it's always be one thing or the other.
Starting point is 00:38:24 You let somebody ask for something, and then they get it at the time when they want it. And just take it out on you. But yours is yours. You work for yours. You know, so all you have to do is just be humble, mile it down and know that that's your daughter. You know, she speak foul thing and things that she's not supposed to speak about me. And it was all lies, so it's not true.
Starting point is 00:38:47 So it's not like she burst in the secret. The only secret she burst was talking about my Maserati when I never want nobody know that I'm going to bring it to Jamaica. That was it. You have to have to deal with that with people. Like do people, you know, sometimes, like you might do something for a person 10 times,
Starting point is 00:39:07 but that one time you don't do it. What, that's the Caribbean way. I don't think that is the Jamaican way, that's the Caribbean way. Yeah, you do a lot of good, lot of good, lot of good. And then, do you ever notice that a guy got a $200 problem while you got a $2 million problem
Starting point is 00:39:27 and this problem is more important than yours? That's right. That's what we face every day. Yeah, so people in life just have to face life for what it is, you know? It's either you're just a red-upper, just leave life alone. I'm not going nowhere, I'm still here.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Did you ever want to leave Jamaica and live somewhere else? This is not my thing. But I've spent time in firing, but I have to go back home. Because first of all, my kids are there. So if I plan to leave Jamaica, I have to pack up everybody. And I'm not planning that for now. I was gonna ask you, what makes you such a people person, right? You dealt with so many different artists, Caribbean artists, rap artists, R&B artists.
Starting point is 00:40:14 But when it comes to you, you are very a people person. You like to meet people where they at. I mean, I tell a story of a time, one time I came to Jamaica and you took me to the beach. You took me to get food. And it wasn't you and your crew and you took me to the beach, you took me to get food. And it wasn't you and your crew, you took me around. No, me, me, yeah. So what makes you such a people person like that? I think it's my mom's.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Yeah, I think it's my mom's. Because she know that I'm not a churchgoer, but I have to go to church. It was even one day in the week, but Sundays we have to be in church. So that's where you start to meet people, that's where you learn to start to socialize with people and all that. So I bring all my upbringing in my music.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Because the stardom never got to your head. Never. Because you see, all right, you want to become the star. You have to expect everything that comes with stardom. You got to expect you have to take pictures, you got to expect you have to with stardom you got to expect you have to take picture You got to expect you have to sign autographs after I expect you got a kiss a baby You got to expect you got to live up a little kids. Oh, man. Okay, this tree. Oh, I'm 50 and Looking come on
Starting point is 00:41:17 Got to hug that kid You know, you got a sign out a girl for that kid take a picture with that kid And yeah, that's that's how it goes because people love you because of your personality. People don't love you because of your songs. People will listen to your song and dance to your song but not buying a ticket to come out and see you. That's real.
Starting point is 00:41:37 That don't make no sense. People supposed to love you for who you are, not what you do. So you could be a TV announcer, you could be a radio announcer, you could be a journalist, you can be anything. You can be the man that picking up the garbage. You have to talk to everybody. You have to boom off the madman fist because the madman know you. He's the madman that sleeps on the ground like this and he moves off the ground and says, be the man. If you don't want to boom off the fist,
Starting point is 00:42:01 you give him a thing. That's it. The man who pushed the handcart, the man who us the taxi, the man who load the bus. They are all people. So for you to grow up in a big family like mine and not a people person, don't make no sense. My mom got 13 kids and her kids got 13 kids. And yeah. Where are you in the 13 kids? Like what number?
Starting point is 00:42:24 I'm in the region. I'm in what number? I'm in the region. I'm in the region. I'm in the region. I'm in the region. I'm in the region. You said people got to love you for who you are, not for what you do, but you are the music, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:38 But not because you're a musician and not because you're a superstar. People need to know you. They need to know who Moses Davis is, otherwise from Beanie Man. Beanie Man is a man that go on stage and pull out the audience and make the girl them wine and them down the fence and all them things. But who's Moses? It's not like I walk and sing and walk and dance. You have a beater person who people can talk to, come out and shake your hand. You have to do that person who people can talk to, come out and shake your hand.
Starting point is 00:43:06 You have to do it presidential like, yeah. We all get older and the older we get, we have to change things about our lifestyle. Did the doctor tell you to slow down on the rum in Red Bull? Well, doctor always say to slow down on everything. Doctor tell you to slow down on the high grade, they tell you to slow down on the rum in Red Bull.
Starting point is 00:43:24 They always say that. But you are the one that feeling it. So you're supposed to know how you feel. Doctors give you advice. Sometimes you have to take it. When them say critical, it is critical. But if them give you time, over time, you will get to balance it.
Starting point is 00:43:39 So if you drink a Bacchla rum today, drink half Bacchla. Tomorrow you start to drink quarter bottle. Then you know, you slow down. I like that. So you don't just stop, brah, boom. And then you get into, I don't understand. I don't think rehab work for people. I think after rehabilitate yourself.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Yeah, excuse me. But you can do that. You can drop back. It's still the same rum. You're just not drinking a bottle. But you can do that. You can jump back. It's still the same run. You're just not drinking a bottle. You're drinking half bottle. When you reach the half bottle, then you just force it down to a quarter bottle. And then you can go one drink a day. And you can do that. You believe in your health, so you believe in your life. You can last a little bit longer. Yeah, so doctor don'tontepi, I knew that. Well, Beaty Mayer's gonna be performing May 24th at the UBS Arena on, uh, that's a Saturday.
Starting point is 00:44:30 The King of Dance All Tour. He'll be hitting the city. What other, what other cities you hitting? We're eating, ugh, a lot of places. We're eating Philly, we, we, yeah. It's, it's there. You can find it. But right now, I can't tell you on top of my... Well, New York is May 24th. I'm coming. You know, the wife's coming. You can go to Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster, yeah. Just check out Ticketmaster and they will tell you everything. I was supposed to come with an old thing of listen where we're going and what we're doing,
Starting point is 00:44:56 but I didn't know that I was going to be here today, so I have to cancel everything. I know. I called him. I said, I called Beanie. I said, Beanie, how you come to New York and don't come by us? He goes, hold on. I changed my flight bridge and I know. I called him. I said, I called Beanie. I said, Beanie, how you come to New York? And don't come by us. He goes, hold on. I changed my flight, Bridget. I'll be here tomorrow morning. So he changed his flight to here. So I appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:45:11 But I knew that when you were in New York City, you had to come through. Yes, man. And we appreciate you, Beanie Segal. Beanie Man, man. What the hell? Beanie Man. What?
Starting point is 00:45:20 I don't know why I said Beanie. What the hell? That's funny. That's funny because Beanie Segal used to the name Beanie Man. Really? Yeah. Beanie Mac. It was Beanie Mac.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Beanie Mac. Yeah, it was Beanie Mac. Okay. Beanie Man. Yeah. Because he said Philly. Beanie Man. Wait.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Don't be offended by that because he's retarded. I know you can't use that word anymore. You're not supposed to use that word anymore. What y'all say? What's the word for retarded in Jamaica? Dumb. Ah, damn. I'm the cap. Yeah. A lot of things.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah. I would just go with normal stupid. Yo Envy, I'm gonna call you that. You normal stupid. It's Beanie Man, it's The Breakfast Club, good morning. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. podcast, Beardless **** with Me. I'm the old one. I'm the young one. And every week we try to make each other laugh really hard. Sounds innocent, doesn't it? A lot of cussing,
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