The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Beenie Man Talks 'Eminence,' Dancehall Legacy, Love For NY, Headlining 'Wild 'N Out,' Battling Sickle Cell, Friendships + More
Episode Date: September 11, 2026Today on The Breakfast Club, Beenie Man Talks 'Eminence,' Dancehall Legacy, Love For NY, Headlining 'Wild 'N Out,' Battling Sickle Cell, Friendships. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@...BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Be your mind, he's back.
Let me, man, what's up?
Good morning.
How you feeling, man?
I'm feeling good.
Another album out right now?
Yes, though.
Eminence.
Eminence, yeah.
Why eminence?
What's that mean?
Evidence means, you know,
being the leader of everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's really what it means.
So is it celebrating what you accomplished
or just reminding people who you are?
Yeah, just reminding people who are you.
Word.
Yeah, and what do I stand?
for really.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Were you trying to top
your other records?
Or would you different?
No, it's not trying to.
I'm not trying anything.
I'm just doing what I've always been doing.
Because, you know, you say,
can somebody give you a count
and call you the king of the dance house?
Somebody called you the cars of some sugar
or somebody, you know.
You know, so eminence is just like, yeah.
High status.
Yeah, high status.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're superior in your field.
There you go.
Top of the, top of the food chain.
So you know you always start,
Mass, when you say, you know, people say,
when they talk about the king of dance all
and then it's that in the other.
So now they're going to say,
but does that mean I'm the top of everybody in my coaching?
I'm the eminence of Dancer.
Here we go.
Blessing.
He even got a nice little twang to us.
He was very regal.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Yeah.
So, yeah, you can't be like doing the same thing
over and over and over and over.
You got to step up your game.
So in this business,
since it's like a staircase.
So you have one staircase, one, one, one, one, one,
one, one, one, one, they step up to the top.
That's where it is.
It's not me putting myself to the top.
It's me working towards being the top of the food chain.
I like the title because there's a difference
between being famous and being eminent.
Like, like fame is just a tension.
Eminence is like, like you said, the respect you earned over time.
Yes.
Which one took you longer to understand?
Hmm.
There's no.
language I understand. I've been in this business for 40 years.
You know, so I've been there, done that. I'm still here doing it.
So, you know what I'm saying? It's just, you know,
makes sense. Yeah.
Have you seen the reassurgence of dance hall and reggae music on radio?
Because at one time, I was talking to somebody, I think a couple weeks ago,
we would hear tunes on radio, right?
Labor Day in Brooklyn was one of the biggest parades ever.
And it seemed like it took a downfall for a little bit.
I was there.
I was there.
No, I was there.
You said this year?
I was there.
Yeah, I was in, yeah, I was there.
Lebedee.
I was there.
And a Chuck.
Sing it.
And people was,
I couldn't see the other truck behind us.
That's the amount of the people that was following us.
So I only say he'd take a step back.
I think people just want to see the right way that you're supposed to be like.
You know?
And I think,
Some people is not doing it like how they're supposed to do it,
like how it used to be done.
And, you know, evolution is a must.
So, you know, the music step up.
So I think people just want to see the originality
the art tend to see at the music and all of that.
And that's what I gave to them.
And this album, trust me,
because I did some old-school hip-hop.
I did some old-school time, so I did one of my classic
and this album.
and yeah, it's really nice.
Did money ruin it?
Because it was a time where artists wanted to be at those parades,
wanted to be at those events.
And then I feel like you got to a time with people like,
well, how much you're going to give me to be at these events?
I remember there were times where you went to every parade.
Yeah.
Puerto Rican Day parade.
West Indian Parade.
African American Day parade.
Yes.
You wanted to be seen and heard.
And I felt like for a lot, I think money kind of ruined it.
I think what ruined it is because I,
I lost my visa for like 13 years.
So if I did have it, it wouldn't be like that.
You'd have been an every parade.
Yeah, I'd be every pirate.
See, then everybody would have followed.
You see, but right now, everybody's thinking about the money, the money.
How much to make the check?
How much to pay the sound system?
How much to DJ get paid?
How much what get paid?
So how much I'm going to get paid.
So, you see, when you make music all about the business
and no longer about music,
I think that's what messed it up.
It's like some artists get a one hit song
and forgot that we need to go back to studio
to make another one.
So, you know, I feel that's what I miss it, really.
You got a song called Immortal.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, when you've been doing this as long as you have,
do you start thinking less about hits
and more about what survives after you?
No, it's not less about hit.
You know, it's...
And this, some of this song,
I didn't name these songs.
How about that?
Because Jess loves
marijuana and acucci.
I can't wait to ask you about that.
Marijuana and a coochie.
You named that one?
So some of these songs,
I have marijuana and acucci.
That's funny.
Some of these songs, I don't name these songs.
These songs just come with names.
What do you mean?
The song came with marijuana and the coochie?
No, I don't know nothing about my one and the coochie.
Did you, so you ain't named,
You didn't name you Mortally either?
I didn't name it much.
Okay.
Yeah.
So you have a team that you just go and make the music and the team just takes care of.
Yeah, take care of naming the songs and doing that.
See, the marijuana song.
In the Coochie.
Don't forget that one.
Not just the marijuana song.
It's the marijuana in the Coochee.
I don't know about that.
Okay.
I don't know about that.
Do you know who on the album with you?
Because you know it's a lot of it.
You got 16 tracks, big artists.
Yeah, man.
I know who's on the album with me,
but I don't know about my one in the kitchen.
Okay.
I don't know.
I didn't name this song.
Okay.
These songs was named by the producer,
Camel McGregor.
Gotcha.
He named all these songs.
You know, I just sing music.
I go in the studio,
you play the beat,
I put the headphone on,
and I just spit.
And that's it.
How do you go about picking beats,
though?
Like, do they run beats past?
you because what if they...
No, sometimes you ask her a beat,
like even the juicy beat.
I definitely requested that.
Okay.
Because, you know, Biggie's my rapper and thing,
and I feel like I should do a song on that beat.
And chew Biggie's not around anymore.
I choose Rick Ross to put a big man in the big men ridden.
Yeah.
That's how you decided.
We're going to find the biggest rap on there.
Man, that's crazy.
You put a big man and a big man with him.
That's where it goes.
And, you know, a few of these beats, I pick it.
Like even the, my man, the kuchi, the beat is the kachi,
past the kutti on the left.
And so, yeah.
So it's perfectly to put up weed tune under.
Yeah, so, you know, yeah, those things, those are the things that I do.
And sometimes you walk in the studio, the producer,
he got this beat ready, and you go, okay, let's do this.
You know, and then we make our back,
I will do anything just for you.
And, you know, these songs, and he went and got snowed,
then he went and got Snoop, then he went and get elephant man.
And then all these ladies, you know, but it's beautiful.
The album is beautiful.
The music is nice.
I'm not telling you no joke.
a beautiful album.
How come you and Maya don't do more together?
It's like your third record together?
Yeah, because Maya is on this album.
Yeah, with the old Janet Jackson beat.
Yeah.
So, yeah, me and Maya, we're good together.
You know, when we're making music, we make proper music.
And I really respect her as an artist
because she can dance and she can sing.
And she have everything what a artist needs to be an artist.
You understand what I'm saying.
So she is not...
We understand.
You couldn't even help him so you see it.
So she got all of that.
She got looks and, you know, and she now only looking good, she can sing good.
And she can perform good and she can dance good.
So artists like that you need to be working with.
And I got TIE on the album.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, this is a great album.
It's just a great, great, great, great album.
You got friends for life?
Yeah.
Who survived success with you all these years?
Do you have full life friends?
Mm, yeah, seriously, I got a few.
Because, you know, a lot, it's not here anymore.
Got rest their soul.
But, you know, we've got a few.
What does it take to survive success with somebody?
Mm.
Well, it takes you being yourself, you know,
And you working towards being successful and more successful and more successful and to keep it.
Because, you see, when you have a building and nobody living it, the tree grow through the megal of the building.
And if you don't paint your house, you're not maintaining it.
You know what I'm saying?
All right.
All right.
Let me give you this.
In Craigtown, that's the place that I grew up.
Zid.
And you'd have a big house in the megalari square
where people living
and them run up a staircase every day,
run down the staircase every day,
run up the staircase every day,
and one day they'll move out.
And somebody decided, like,
yes, we've got to move this house now.
So we have to build a park in the miglai place.
And somebody fling a stone in the house,
and the horse just goes to and drop a gun.
So I'm like,
so people that used to live in at the house.
And people used to sleep in there,
run up and down the staircase,
run up and down the staircase.
And the house was running.
But when life is in that house,
the house becomes alive.
That's right.
Yeah.
So this is what I'm saying.
If you don't keep yourself alive,
then you're going to fail, though.
Yeah.
And you don't want to do that.
You just want to continuously doing what you're doing.
You're continuously going on tour.
And, you know, doing shows.
If you can do
a week
If you can do Friday
Saturday and Sunday
you're good
Trust me
Because that is keeping yourself alive
Because it's great to
You work hard in the studio
But you work out on stage
So people always remember
So I'm gonna say
Yo being a man of a show
I'm going because
I expect to get a good performance
Yeah so
You know
That's so it goes
Whenever you drop music
and it does things like
you were at the top of the US
iTunes charts across all genres
right?
When that happens
are you ever like
I mean you've transcended
across all genres before
but are you ever like man
like I'm here all these years later
doing it still
well that's what I'm saying
I'm still running
I'm still running
I'm still running
I see
when you're a great runner
you don't resign
you don't give up the game
You just keep in the game and keep on doing it.
As long as you can do it the right way, everything is great.
Yeah.
So we got the nice, we have a right crew behind us.
My crew is my wife, you know,
and the team that produce the song, they're doing their thing.
You see me, and I respect what they're doing,
but I got to do me.
You get me, so you have to keep me up there.
So it's not like, you know, them alone can do it,
And now I sit down like, yeah, I'm the king.
What?
What?
Look at me.
No, you got to go out here and do it.
I work and dig it in.
I make people know and say, yes.
May I do this?
Not only for the family, but for the funds and the well wishes
and the people that out there that wish you good right through your life.
Yeah, so you can't let them down, but what about when your body is asking you to slow down?
Because you've been battling what, sick or something?
Yeah, well, that's, that's, that.
That's no problem.
You can't make that bottle of you.
You got it's time firm.
I know that, yeah, yeah, it's time for them on your feet and be there.
Now, you know, this week is the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
You remember where you were when 9-11 hit?
Were you here or were you in-19?
9-11, I actually left the tent.
I was here in America, New York.
And I leave and went back to Jamaica.
They let the planes leave, or you had to wait for?
for a while.
No, the tent.
The day before.
Oh, he left on the tent.
Yeah, I left the tent.
But I was watching, what's your name?
Good Morning America.
Yeah, because I think I did have the, I think I had something coming on in the
morning.
And I was waiting to see it, see it, then it was supposed to come after the, we call it,
the trading thing.
When they go to the trade.
The stock exchange.
Yes.
And then I saw the plane.
Boom.
Okay.
I'm not coming on TV today.
And that was the day that I realized that.
The world changed.
And yeah.
It wasn't a good day for nobody.
No.
Trust me.
It wasn't a good day.
And when I saw that,
I realized that
the world changed.
Because when a country like United States get attacked, it's not like a easy country to get attacked.
It's not like, you know, it's not something that you expect to happen.
America do the attack.
America is the bullies.
They go around and like, say something.
Just say one more thing.
And then you see America get attacked.
It's like, hmm.
And then you hear cops died and the fireman died.
It wasn't a good thing.
People started to jump off the building, top, and all these things.
It wasn't a good day.
It was just a sad day, and it's always sad.
Every time you remember that, you just felt like you didn't want to be there on that day.
We talked about how it changed.
We tell a Jess and Lauren that before there was no...
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TSA.
Like you walk to the gate and you get on the plane.
You get on the plane.
There was no check.
There was no.
Checkpoint is everywhere.
It's got about a patrol.
I can't believe we ever used to live like that.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Like, why?
Why did we try?
Why did we trust each other?
And even like some of the things that you could take on the plane,
like cigarettes and lighters and that whole thing.
They take away them.
Yeah, now they do.
There's no lighter allow on the plane.
You couldn't even, you can't have a cock screw.
Nope.
No, no cold school.
Nothing that you can use for a weapon.
Yeah, you used to have a little knife that you used to bring you.
He called them the Swiss lights.
You can't bring the on the plane.
You used to be able to smoke on a plane.
I didn't see pictures of that online.
Like, you used to be able to smoke on a plane.
Australia on a plane.
Yeah, you said that.
that they used to smoke in the plane.
You go like, and you used to smoke in the plane.
But all that changed since 9-11.
Now you said you lost your visa for 15, 16 years.
No, for 13 years.
13 years.
Yeah.
What was the process of getting that back?
Was it the administration making it difficult?
No.
What I did, I just wait.
Because America always tell you that for you to come here in a visa
as a privilege they give to you.
So, you know, I'm not an enough.
I'm not an American.
I do not have an American passport.
I have a Jamaican passport.
So when it's time for a day ready to give me back my visa,
it's time for day to give me back my visa.
But what really happened, what that does,
it gives me time to tour the world.
So I've been all over the place.
I've been to Australia, I've been to Africa,
I've been everywhere, like everywhere all over the world.
Japan, everywhere, me go, everywhere, me got.
Is it.
And here I am right here speaking to you.
The breakfast program.
Yeah.
You just recently headlined at the Barclays, the Wilden Out Live show, right?
What was that like?
No, that was wicked.
What?
The show was wicked.
You were supposed to be there.
My flight got canceled.
Your flight got canceled.
I couldn't make it.
I was in Phoenix and my daughter's dance competition.
Okay.
And Rip set it up right, though.
He set it up.
They had an escort picking me up from the airport, but I wouldn't have made it in time.
Travel.
The Safari come out and battle you that night?
No, shut out.
No, my God.
Make you don't stop.
I thought that was supposed to happen.
I thought that he would have Safari come out and battle.
You are.
You don't stop.
No, my God.
Stop.
Now, you've been doing arenas for a long time, right?
Now, performing in front of a crowd like that these days versus way back when, is there a big difference?
No, it's not a difference to me because, you see, an audience.
Our audience is the audience.
From the audience come out to see music,
I am dear to give music.
The audience come out to see performance,
I'm dear to perform.
So when you come to a being in a show,
I'm dear to entertain you.
You're not dear to entertain me.
I give you my energy
and you give them back your energy seven times ten.
Yeah.
And that's what I'm dear for.
That's why I say I work harder and stage.
I work out in the studio,
but I work harder and stage.
Gotcha.
Yes.
What do you tell an artist for long?
Because you have a longevity, you still have an amazing show, you're still putting out records.
What do you tell a younger artist now to make sure that they still have that longevity, 20, 30, 40 years later?
Well, it's for them to know what to do and what to keep yourself alive.
Because I think some artists kill their genre.
They just kill it because they're not doing the right thing.
They're not doing it the right way.
And not because you have more young people.
people coming in the world and young people coming in the world.
There's no old people.
Everybody born one day before they comes two days, before them comes three days.
So what you're supposed to know is to control your generation and make them know that,
okay, this is where I'm coming from, this is where I'm going.
So you bring them with you.
You don't lose them along the way.
So I think some artists, they lose their generation.
So a generation go like this.
I say, what is he doing?
What is he doing?
My thing is,
if you can give 85%
or 95% every time you perform,
I think you should.
You don't give 50%
and expect 100%
agreement.
Like, people say, yeah, I agree with you
because you did 50, but I'm going to give you 100.
I don't think that.
I think if you give you a 100, I don't think that.
I think if you give you a 100.
97 and somebody said, you deserve 100, you deserve 100.
You get what I'm saying?
So it's not like some artists they, they just come out and just,
they run off the stage.
Oh, that's the far.
That's a far.
Why you want this guy was so mad.
They're running off the stage.
And they're singing the song.
and the song in 40 second, you're a dash.
Next one.
Dash!
Next one.
You forgot that people sit down and listen that song for three minutes.
You didn't remember that.
All three verses people listen to.
So they know all three verses.
So you sing from one verse to the third verse.
Now, if you don't got a time, I understand that.
If I give you a 10 minutes to do 20 songs,
then you do 20 punchline.
That's what I'm saying.
Don't get it twisted.
But if you got an hour and a half to perform,
perform, doc.
Trust me, because people work hard for their money.
And when they come out to see you,
they got to pay money.
And it's not like them just come out and free
and they pay their money to see you.
So why are you not performing for the people?
I feel like with certain genres of music,
like with your genre of music,
we expect energy and the performance and the excitement.
with certain genres you go, it's like,
you'd be surprised if they say,
oh, they got a little one, two, seven.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
True, but all artists,
I think all artists supposed to think about the people.
I think about your, I think you should practice
at home before you go out, like, seriously.
I think you should, you know, your house
and play the music,
and stand up in front of the mirror.
We're hurt so, yeah.
I think you should do that.
Like, seriously.
I think you should learn the kids.
keys. Like when you go on stage, you don't sound louder than the music.
Because I think people intend to do that.
My God, the mic is too loud, dog.
So the people are not hearing what you're saying, even though you think that you're singing loud.
When you sing loud, you just sound nicey.
Yeah.
When you were younger, did King mean, like, just beating everybody else or being better than everybody else?
And does it mean something different to you now?
No, king mean greatness.
Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, I don't think you should beat up everybody.
I think you should bring everybody.
Yeah.
I think everybody should just roll me.
You understand what I'm saying?
So if you're doing great, everybody can do great if they're just following you.
Yeah, that's what king mean to me.
I don't think it mean anything else.
I think it means leadership.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
You just got an official proclamation from the city of Hartford.
Yeah.
Right?
What does that mean?
to you, that type of recognition from an actual city,
from a certain city versus the industry.
I've got a lot from other cities.
Yeah.
Florida, everywhere.
Yeah, but it's a great thing when the government recognize you.
That means you can't get a parking ticket.
Yeah, right.
You're right.
You have a key to the city.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
You just call the mayor.
I'm going to get a parking ticket.
You're still going to get it, but, you know.
How do you get something like that?
What are you performing hard for a lot?
Or like, what made them want to do that?
Well, I think it was the work that you did, the body of work that you've been doing.
They've been listening to you for a long time, you know.
A lot of these people were in school when Simmer came out.
And that was their song, you know.
So they see you now and they can give you some respect.
Why are you still here?
I accept it.
This is flowers.
That's right.
Yeah, you don't want nobody
give you a reap.
There we go.
You ended the album with a heavenly father.
Yeah.
Like, why did the album ultimately end with God?
Yeah, because you got to give thanks.
You got to give thanks.
You can't put that song like that in the middle.
Yeah.
And then marijuana with the kentakuchi come on after.
Right.
Oh, God.
Steve a little over that.
Just have my money in the culture.
God, God, that's.
Are we getting any music videos?
Yeah, we're working in that now.
Yeah, to get it out and, you know, get it out here.
Yeah.
What is your thoughts on Masego?
They say he's the future of dance all.
And the record, of course, Hello is probably one of the biggest records out now.
What are your thoughts on him and his music?
Who's that?
Masego.
They say, the future of Danzao?
What's it?
I'm about to say
Masego do dance halls too
Yeah I didn't know that
But Masego was actually from Jamaica
He's from Jamaica
Masego
Yeah he is
He was
Born in Kings of Jamaica
But he was
That I like?
Yes
Yeah
He's not a dance hall
He sampled who am I
For Simma
Yeah
For hello
So he's the future dance on
I don't know
But he's not the future dance on
Critics are same
He's R&B artist
But he also does
BATO as well
he's just a future
you can just say
he's just a
he does R&B and jazz
he does dance hall too
he's not really
he's born in Jamaica
though I just have to say
congratulations because
yeah if you
cover SimColitan
congratulations son
do you think
well you had to clear it
right I'm sure
yeah
yeah
Germany Arden have to
clear it
yeah
and also you know I want to know
I want to know too with most
reggae artists
dancehall artists, they take, when they come to the U.S.,
they love Miami.
But you love New York.
Yeah.
Why is that?
Because every artist, besides you and Shagga,
the only artist that I know will live in New York,
will stay in New York, we'll eat in New York, we'll walk around.
What does New York mean to you?
New York mean everything.
Because, all right, you see, I think it's a,
because of the second place I came when I left Jamaica.
I left Jamaica, I went to Canada.
Then I came to New York.
Brooklyn kind of changed me.
Like, seriously, Brooklyn kind of changed me.
Because when you're in Brooklyn, it's like you're in Jamaica.
It's not Jamaica Queens.
Jamaica, Jamaica, Jamaica.
Like, when you're in Brooklyn, most of Jamaicans.
And then you see people that you know for a very long time
or you haven't seen them for a very long time.
You wonder if they're dead air in prison, they're in Brooklyn.
Dang.
Yeah, so that is it.
So, you know, I think I just love New York because of New York itself
and the vibes and the vibration that it brings.
And the people, I love Queens too.
And I love Branks.
And I just love New York.
What am I going to do?
I can't help myself about it.
If you want to chop my head up.
I love it.
Just job it in New York.
What part of your legacy you think people understand correctly?
Part of my legacy of people understand correctly.
I think my work, my hard work and my work ethics, you know, because I work very hard.
And, you know, I don't stop.
I don't really stop.
I can't stop.
Because can you imagine me sitting down for a month in my house for a month like this.
The last time I tried out, I got fat.
Last time was COVID.
I got shoulders in this way.
My belly get big this way.
I'm like, what?
If you remember that versus thing.
Yeah.
I got a huge gut in front of me.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's being in your house.
That's what being in your house is.
That what it means to me, you just cook, eat,
cook, eat, cook, eat, cook, eat,
no, I want to work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work.
Stay active.
Yeah, stay active is not being lazy, you know.
Because, see, my job, I don't have to exercise
because I reckon states for an hour and a half, two hours sometimes.
And if I feel to it, I'll go treat.
I don't care.
So, you know, when you have all the energy,
You burn all that fire off.
You burn all the sweat off.
You got to put it on back.
Then you burn it off again.
You put it all back.
Then you burn it off again.
So when you stay active,
that means you stay fit.
You're staying healthy.
You're saying physical.
So, you know, yeah.
So what part of your legacy do you think people
who have gotten wrong?
Well, people always get people wrong.
Always.
Because people think I'm a selfish man.
I only believe in myself.
And that is so far from the truth
but people don't even know that.
These people say, I don't help nobody.
There are more people that are helping this music business.
It'll be sad if I call everybody in there.
But, you know, when people brand you, they brand you.
There's nothing you can do about it more than laugh
and just know that, okay, I am this man.
I am not that guy.
Yeah, so, you know,
People always get people around.
Because when people start to brand people, people just brand people.
And there's nothing you can do about it.
If they say you don't have nobody, that's why you don't do.
You don't have nobody.
They say you don't boss nobody.
That's what you do.
You don't bust nobody.
So you don't go there and tell people that, I did this, I do that, I do this, I do that,
I did this, I do that, I did this, I do that.
Nobody's going to believe you.
Because they don't stigmatize and centralize and mentalize
and make the people
them know
say, yeah, that is who you are.
And it don't matter anyway.
God knows what you've done.
Yes.
That's right.
No, who know I've done things for?
Know what I've done for them.
It's for them to come out and said,
this men do this.
But what they do, they just sit back and allow it to happen.
What are you going to do?
Fight?
No.
I'm not a boxer.
I sing music.
Well, let's get into a joint off the aisle.
What you want to hear?
Well, do you...
Marijuana and a coochie.
It's cuchy.
And it sounds like Cucci.
Okay.
It's my one in the Cotchy.
Get it right.
Cotchy is different to Cucci.
Yeah.
Okay.
What's a cuchy?
Oh, so it's not Coochie.
No.
No, I thought it was Coochie too.
It's called Coochee.
Every time we said, she was different.
Like, that's not what it is.
Okay.
Marijuana and a touch.
I don't know that was my song you're talking about.
That's why he was confused because he's like,
he's talking about it.
I don't know who named him.
Yeah, he's like, I don't know what that is.
Okay.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Damn.
I don't know.
Damn.
I'm talking about burning.
Oh, God.
All right.
Well, let's get into the joint.
It's called marijuana in the what?
Cotchy.
Coochie.
Not Coochie.
It's the breakfast club.
Come on.
Day I wake up.
The Breakfast Club.
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