The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: BIA Talks Debut Album 'BIANCA', Cardi B, Becoming A True Artist, Signing With Pharrell + More

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, BIA Talks Debut Album 'BIANCA', Cardi B, Becoming A True Artist, Signing With Pharrell. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnys...tudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:29 La Rosa is here as well. And we got a special guest in the building. Bianca. Beer is here. Bianca. Bianca. Her album comes out this Friday and it's called Bianca. What's up, Bea?
Starting point is 00:02:40 What's going on? Bianca's out 10-10. Very. You ready for this album, girl? I'm so ready. Yeah. Like, I've been ready. So this is just perfect timing.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I love that none of the songs sound the same. None of them. You got like a... You listen to it. Yeah. I love that. And it's like pop, yo. It's like crossover time, like all of that.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Because I hear me... I mean, I see some of the tracks. I'm like, all right, I can see me shopping and Bergdorff's a Nordstrom all the way down to H&M. And then, you know, you got some good music, car ride music. You got to do your makeup music.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Birthday song. Birthday song. Yeah. And then you got a little bit of biggie vibe going on. Yeah. Give me a lot of biggies. That's what she said. We was listening together.
Starting point is 00:03:26 She was like, it's heavy Biggie vibes. Yeah. Baby Biggie going on the flow, everything that you had going on. On the bag. Baby Biggie, come on now, like, stop. Well, my favorite song with the album is the bad guy. Okay. Yeah, I like the bad guy too.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It's the tone. It's how she coming, even the flow. Is Biggie your inspiration at all? Yeah, Biggie, Sean, Fox, Little Kim, like, that we were listening mainly like Foxy and Biggie Records that day and just trying to like, that's how I'm going to, to come on the song even the beginning of which one was it trifling when she was screaming like a big's um yeah yeah that was trifling yeah pray for my down for
Starting point is 00:04:01 like pray for my down like you screaming on the beginning of that that was trifling right yeah yeah yeah yeah we can tell it was very important how intentional are you about representing all sides of your identity through your music um super I'm glad you asked that question I'm very intentional like when it comes to the music I just feel like I'm a student of music I love rap I love just the whole process of making music and I started with people that were really like, you know, I started with like, Farrell and people, Family, that there's a really, there's like a really intense studio culture.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So that's what I came up on and I really wanted this to be a reflection of my years in music, not just like one sound. And I didn't want you to be able to expect what was gonna come next on the track list. Whatever with Farrell and Fam? Because you were signed with them at one point, I think in 2014, that's when I first heard of beer.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And you're not with them anymore. What, what about that business relationship? I think like that journey just like rent his course and it was time for me to kind of like go and do my own thing and step into more of like a businesswoman entrepreneur mind of like my run my own program but I'm so grateful for them for life because that's where I think a lot of my like collectiveness when it comes to music comes from is like just that whole artist development period which a lot of artists don't really have right now I also want to know but you being Puerto Rican and Italian when we were listening to the album, it finally did come up. I was like, I wonder how come she didn't dive into the Latino side more, especially because it's one of the biggest right now when you talk about Spanish music. You see what Bad Bunny's doing. You see what all the Spanish artists are doing. How can we didn't dive into that more? That's a good question. I feel like when I make music, I'm very like,
Starting point is 00:05:40 I'm a feeling artist. So like, whatever is my feeling at that time or whatever I'm trying to get off is what I'm going to like intentionally get off. But I do want to work on like a Latin project on the side because there's like a lot of things I want to do with different sounds and like merging and fusion in them together but I got a song with Becky G that I'm really excited about Harway and that's like to me like you know and with young Miko and they're like two of my favorite girls like on the Latin side especially too this is your official debut album how do you approach this project different than other projects like how do you say this is my album this is my album they you know what they say you have your whole life to like
Starting point is 00:06:20 like work on your first album and I always didn't feel like I was ready up until I would say like maybe a year or two ago I started to be a lot more intentional with the music that I'm putting out and they were like you know of course people call for you to have an album at different times and I'm like I'm not ready I'm not ready but that's because I don't think personally I was ready to like check my frequency and what I'm putting out into the world why didn't why didn't you think you was ready it was just a personal thing like you had to do some inner work yeah okay okay Like, I think I didn't, I didn't go through enough. And I think, like, when you're a new artist, like, people are like, okay, cool, this is new, this is cool.
Starting point is 00:06:56 But I think people have to see the growth and people have to see you, like, go through shit in order to be like, okay, let me take a listen and let me, let me give this person a different eye. Didn't you almost, forgive me, didn't you almost die? What the fuck? Motorcycle accident. Motorcycle crash, yeah. Oh, all right. That part you look like that jazz, just like, what? Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Wow. You said it was 10 or 20 of y'all on bikes. You was a passenger, a junk driver whipped a U-turn. You flew 20 to 30 feet in the air. You fell on the floor. You hit the floor like, oh, my God, am I alive? You looked down, your leg was split open. You didn't know if you was going to keep your leg or not.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It was bad. How did surviving that motor cycle accident changed just the way you approach your life and everything? I think at that time I was just living so fast and I was so excited to be doing music. I just signed my deal with Farrell, like maybe two weeks. weeks before that. So I thought like my life was about to change like, oh yeah, we on. Yeah. And then it was like, no. But I was still in the studio at that time like on crutches just because I wanted people to see like, oh, I'm serious about this. Like it made me a lot more grateful and realize like don't play with your time here, you know, and don't play with with people like
Starting point is 00:08:14 because you don't know when you're going to lose somebody. It's very quick. That's real. So what is it that you wanted to go through to be able to do this album now? Because, I mean, that's a life-changing experience. You are signed at that point. I'm sure you've had life before that. Like, is it, like, heartbreak?
Starting point is 00:08:28 Like, what did you think you needed to experience? I just don't think I had experienced enough. And, like, in terms of just life experience, love, music, whatever the case may be, like, I don't think I was ready. And I don't think that I cared about the frequency that I was putting into the universe. Like, even now, I'm a lot more conscious of, like,
Starting point is 00:08:51 what I'm saying online, what I'm doing online, what I'm doing, like, in general, just because it's like, it's all a universe, it comes back to you. A lot of that sounds like, that sounds like imposter syndrome a little bit. Like, you had to deal with Farrell, but you just weren't sure who you were in that moment, or maybe not sure of the position you were in? Yeah, I think I always knew who I was. But I think at that time, like Farrell was trying to help me develop. and fan was trying to teach me how to be a real artist.
Starting point is 00:09:19 So for them, they were like, okay, do this beat, do that beat, do this beat. And I didn't know what my sound was. When I knew deep down the sound, like, oh, I want to come like this, but they're trying to like help me widen my palette and like be a better artist. So I don't think I fully grasped that at that time. And then you were just trusting them because these are successful creators that came before you,
Starting point is 00:09:39 so you're just putting it in their hands, just trusting it, right? Not really. I think you just don't know enough about the business at that time to know how to take the reins on your own shit and like run it. What slowed down for beer, right? Because you had a trajectory to go through the roof at one point, right? A whole lot of money came out. You did remix with Nikki.
Starting point is 00:09:56 You had records with Jay Cole. You had records with artists and you was all over the place. And then it just seemed like it just stopped or it just slowed down. Was it business? Was it label? Was it personal? No, it was never business label personal. It was more so like trying to balance like touring and creating because I'm a real,
Starting point is 00:10:14 I'm a real creator. like my favorite part about this is going to the studio and making songs and then going and performing them but like i love being in the studio like they'll tell you you can lock me in the studio for for a week i will not leave like i'll sleep there like wake up there brush my teeth and record there like i love being there that's my happy place yeah so like that's the whole reason why i got into this and so at that time it was so busy it was like show show show show show and i was like i miss being in the studio like i really want to go back to the studio So it was like finding that balance at that time and also making new music and figuring out like, okay, how do I want to come and what do I? I don't want to just make bops. Like I just, I got to that point where I'm like, I can make cool songs, but like I want intentional songs
Starting point is 00:11:01 that's going to mean something that's going to be here after I'm gone that's going to reflect my legacy and what I'm putting out into the universe. So did you like a whole lot of money? Because it popped off TikTok viral, right? I loved it. It was one of my favorites. When everybody else didn't get it, I got it.
Starting point is 00:11:15 So they didn't get it, people didn't get it before. At first, a whole lot of money was out for like six months before people. And at the time, they were like, oh, it's some monotoneers flow. Like, she's rapping in that low tone. They didn't really get it. Now there's so many people rapping in low tone, monotone voices like girls, everything. What moment in your career thus far has tested your confidence the most? Hmm.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I would say getting out of my first deal. because when you leave a situation that's so big and it's not what you envision it to be you think like oh my God what's next or like am I going to be able to top this but I feel like I've always have so like everything that came next was always bigger and better than I could have predicted
Starting point is 00:12:06 and like you know it's cliche but God's plan is literally like way better than our plan like we could show up and write it out but how it goes is like It's never up to us. Who is the person that was playing at the SoFi Stadium that was taking you through with y'all? On the album you mentioned, you said you had shows
Starting point is 00:12:25 and he had something at SoFi. And I'm like, well, that's the NFL team that played at the Sofai Stadium. Who was taking her through it? You know she knows. You know she's going to dig into it. No, it was just like a... No, no.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Don't do that. Don't do that. The album is called Bianca. And you said this is your most personal and vulnerable album or project. Yeah, you could have said any other stadium. You could have said MetLife. Maybe that was very specific. That gave, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I just, at that time, like, I had been to the sofa, so. So, I went there, and then it was an NFL team playing, and then you had met a person? No, like, I had just been to the sofa, so it just stuck out to me, like, oh, this is one of those places that I was at. But on this album, on Bianca Tenten, I feel like it's very, very personal for me. It's the most vulnerable I've ever been on the album. Yeah, because there's another song, too. what the girl I was along the ride with you in the beginning of the album right it seems like whoever this person is or people could different experiences you're going through it and then
Starting point is 00:13:24 you get to I think it's like sad party or one of the parties or one of the songs and you realize who you are you like yeah you can't take back I mean I don't want nothing because you can't take it back from me and I'm like okay so whoever he was she realized no I'm the prize yeah who was that you going through but hold on that's interesting what you say that Lord because Because you went from, you the prize. So talk about that being in that moment. I'm so glad you said this. Lauren, you are T.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Because when I talk about the track list, like I literally take people through the track list. And it's like, I'm like, okay, don't turn me to the bad guy because I don't want to play for you. But like I want to like, it's like, it's taking you through like the day in the life almost of me and kind of just like finding my way. And like dealing with different people,
Starting point is 00:14:09 whether that be relationships, friendships, and I'm just like finding my way. and y'all are just coming with me on the journey throughout that project. So there is, like, love moments in there, heartbreak moments in there. Yeah, because you said you got a whole face. You call the whole face in there?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Sad party, girl. You might take a couple shots and do something. NWFA. Oh, NWFA is for the, you know what that's for. Because they will do it. That's about the men's. The men's. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:38 What will the person know that you're talking about them, the one that you're talking about? I don't know if he'll know, and I don't know if it's for him. I think it's just like, that's like a therapeutic for me. I'm going to get off whatever I got to get off at the studio. If you offended by it, that's on you. But like, I'm here for me. You really feeling like niggas will fuck anything?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yes, absolutely. What? They home boys. You ain't never fuck anything? They home girls. No, seriously, you look like anything at one point. I know you was fucking anything else. You are anything to somebody.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Oh, okay. I'm everything to the right person. Don't play my bed because this niggas is playing real bed. But you think that though? Yeah, I think a lot of them will. Not everyone, but I think a lot of them will. What experience made you feel like that? Who?
Starting point is 00:15:28 What did she look like that? You like, damn, you fuck anything. It's so true. Mm-hmm, girl. Like if you really, if you go through some of these phones, you'll see what's going on. Oh, my girl. I'm not saying do that, but I'm just saying like,
Starting point is 00:15:41 they will do anything. anything damn damn who hurt beer nobody hurt me trust me I'm super healed like I'm happy
Starting point is 00:15:54 she said I'm ill now yeah for sure I'm happy I know my worth like I'm not that girl that's gonna be up like crying over a man's like
Starting point is 00:16:02 or like even begging him to like get it right like what's the wildest thing you did beer you had to do something wilder man kid call what's the wildest thing you did Were you laughing?
Starting point is 00:16:14 She cut somebody before, bro. At least pulled the knife. That's the Spanish side? Yes. I can't remember really, honestly, truly. That would be like incriminating myself. She started smiling so you remember something. Puerto Rican and Italian sheet.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Well, what does peace look like for you, Gia? In an industry that thrives on chaos and competition. Oh, you're asking such great questions today. I was a little worried about you, but I love you. you but I like how you coming because I like how you coming beer is not over yet stay low keep firing beer it's not over yet um what repeat that if you don't mind what does peace look like for you in an industry that thrives on chaos and competition peace looks peace is like is a is a me thing like like the piece comes from me all across the
Starting point is 00:17:05 board when it comes to like my career my relationships I I seek balance and I just seek to be intentional with everything I do. In that way, I don't feel no type of way when anything happens because I'm coming how I need to come every time. If you get me, what I mean by that. A piece for me is like a, I go to sleep every night. I could look myself in the mirror with what I've done and I have integrity.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I have like, I have who I still am when I came here. Like I'm not a different person than when you met me five years ago other than success or different money I've made or like different experiences I've had, I'm the same person, like. Well, what does peace look like in an industry that thrives off comparison? What does peace look like?
Starting point is 00:17:49 You've got to be a peaceful piece with yourself. No, but I'm talking about in this industry that, you know, that thrives off comparison. They like to compare people to everybody. Yeah. This person reminds me. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie.
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Starting point is 00:18:46 and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that you all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
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Starting point is 00:20:09 and he got down, and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother tried to solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look to people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Listen to heavyweight on the I-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. How do you think you're misunderstood?
Starting point is 00:20:59 I'm not this evil, mean person that people think that I am. I'm too compassionate. I have sympathy for that my man. to put so much heart and soul into your work what's the hardest part for you to take that criticism this shit was not given to me I worked my ass off for me even when I was a stripper
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Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, I don't really feed into that. I'm not really that, like, I'm not one of those people who are, like, shaking up by what people say. Like, I have tough skin, maybe that's what it is. Like, I love competition. I'm a Leo, so. I'm barking. Park like you want it. I'm coming.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I will say, I was a lot. expecting because I know we saw since we took my piece and you choose in peace there were some piece chose on this album because I didn't get a straight Cardi disc on this album. Why would it be a Cardi Dis? I don't know like I don't even know like why would you think that. Because when Cardi dropped her song Pretty
Starting point is 00:23:20 and Petty as F you posted in the studio and said well now I have 16 songs that you can name so the fans thought we would get a response on the project. It's not to say I don't have a response but I think like where I'm at right now like that was a year ago like and what am I going to do keep beefing with partisan
Starting point is 00:23:39 like over and over again like why would I I don't want to do that you guys I don't want to do that like I know what it started from she knows where it started from um like only thing I'm here to do right now
Starting point is 00:23:51 is to like make people pay attention to my album and like if I decide to address it six months from now two weeks from now a year from now cool I can address it but I could address it on wax that's what I did the first time yeah I went to the she said my name I went to the studio
Starting point is 00:24:06 and addressing in 24 hours and then you made me weigh a whole year. So what I'm supposed to do? Bring myself back to a lower frequency when I'm already up here. Crazy thing is, call me stupid, where did the beef start? Did somebody help me?
Starting point is 00:24:20 I don't know you. Lauren? She would know. So, okay. I'll say what you think. 11-11, y'all. Hey, make a wish. 11-11.
Starting point is 00:24:28 No, shut up, man. It is 11-11. You don't know what to do this. No, I'm 15 years being on a positive vibration, guys. I'm just, I'm just, where it came from um okay so there was like something about you supposed to have like a sex tape or something like that that she cardy said this when she was here too that there was like a sex tape that she had heard that was circulating it was from you and then there was but before that it was like
Starting point is 00:24:51 you make the video that she made uh there was like subliminals online what you saying she's like still in your style with the video and like that whole thing then it led into y'all back and forth it's still 11 11 yeah like that was on the right path you're a master manifester and know exactly what you're going alignment at his finest you can choose where to go now that's so funny are you are you are you so you know i'm done okay um wait five seconds seconds that's 11 12 okay so where it started was there were fans that were like bringing up similarities between like a video a couple songs i'm i'm i'm an artist I write all my stuff I don't have the the resources like that maybe a artist with a bigger
Starting point is 00:25:41 platform would have so when I when something like that is brought to my attention it's disheartening for like an artist that do everything on their own so when you see something like that I'm like okay I said my piece I like I like the tweet she called my phone screaming like trying to like bully me or hoe me out of how I feel like you can't hold me out of how I feel like that's just what it is so she that's where it all started it has to do with a sex tape. I don't even know what sex tape. They, I don't even know what that's about. Like, there was a lot of people also too that at that time that when I was going to the studio to make my diss because she dissed me first. So when I went to the studio to go, okay, I'm going
Starting point is 00:26:20 to the studio, rah, rah, rah, it was in Atlanta. So there was a lot of different people that was in and out the studio hearing what I was saying on the records, going back, saying stuff to her, offset, whoever they were saying it to. But that had, that had like, the stuff that she was saying that I was saying I was not saying like they even called like she even called me multiple times with like managers on the phone my friends on the phone like trying to get me on three way to record me do all this weird stuff and like I have real when I get on the phone with somebody I'm genuine so my first intention is not like when we record this I can use it us a receipt like when I get on the phone and I speak to you it's genuine I have no ill intentions I know everything I said on that
Starting point is 00:26:58 phone call I know everything I said to her about her that's just not how I roll so like we could even had a conversation about it if you inspired by somebody or you think somebody is tight like it's nothing wrong to be like if the fans pull out that similarity you'd be like oh yeah I think she's fired yeah but why you got a downplay and be like no I didn't do that that's that's not I wouldn't I wouldn't fuck with that like that's not true you know that's not true because it's receipts so that was my issue this isn't even about her this is really about real artists like the artists that get up and go to the studio and care about the creative and do their work and have limited resources.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I'm speaking for them. This is not even about her anymore. It's like I'm anti-machine. Like... Do we have any visuals coming for Bianca? Yeah, there's a lot of visuals. Okay. Nice.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Bad guys coming. Okay. Nice. You can't give me a little treatment synopsis. It's cute. You'll see it, but... You know, you talked about the machine, and it seems like you've moved from being,
Starting point is 00:28:02 like, just under major labels, carving out your own lane like what did the industry teach you about ownership and self-worth well i own my masters and like so i care about like you know i have my publishing my master's all that stuff i care about like the business side of things because i didn't know about that coming in so when i did understand like what all this is about my goal is to like teach younger artists and kind of like mentor and feel that space of like what i didn't have when i came into this industry So that's really what's important to me. Like, I just want to focus on that, be an example to that,
Starting point is 00:28:38 and just keep growing my business on an entrepreneurial side, not just like an artist on the front side. You started on Sister Huit of Hip Hop, right? Mm-hmm. Wow. So that show, would you say that helped you? Absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I think that a lot of people can look back in my journey and be like, oh, wow, like this is a real thing. I started with like 3,000 followers. I started with like people saw my grind, go to the studio. So I care about the music, for really. Like, I love music. I love doing it. It's not really about, I never care to be so famous.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I don't, like, date and put my business out in the world. Like, there's so much about me that's private because I want people to fuck with the music and I want people to pay attention to, like, what I'm doing in the world, philanthropy, like community outreach, shit like that. Was it a lot of one that show? What show was a lot of ones?
Starting point is 00:29:25 A lot of them. Rap game or something like that, yeah. It's interesting that they actually made those shows for female rap. rappers, I guess, to have a platform and get seen, and you actually have people who came from those shows and had success. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:38 On the song, Plus 4-4. That's a UK country code, right? Yeah, that's a London country code. And you're rapping in like a little British actions. You think they're gonna say cultural appropriation? No, because I'm from New England. I don't know what that means. I'm from New England, like, you know, Massachusetts, New England.
Starting point is 00:29:53 New England. Like New England Patriots, man. Yeah, like New England Patriots. I'm from New England. Yeah, exactly. Basically. Huh? Huh?
Starting point is 00:30:01 You know London? Yeah. With Jacob? The song? Yeah. You know five-bee of songs? Hold on, hold on, I'm so crazy. Because Cardi said people can name five-bid songs, and she's still in a kid with J-Co?
Starting point is 00:30:12 Yeah, I can name five-biz songs. Okay, that's what. All right. So, London is like me coming, plus four-four is me coming back to London. Yeah, a whole lot of money in London, plus four-four, um, Dade. October. Let's go. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Tell me, why are the songs on the album so short? You want to leave people wanting more? Like, what is it? I just wanted it to flow. Like, there's some songs that are really long. Like, sad parties, like, almost what? Three minutes and 37 seconds. That's the longest song.
Starting point is 00:30:41 That's the longest song on the album. And it got an outro, interlude type of thing going on. Like, so I just wanted it to flow. I love short projects. I love projects that are, like, I don't know. I just love projects that I could just listen to and, like, digest them. So I feel like it's like that. But I also got R&B stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I have, like, a whole other project done that I'm like, I just, I feel like this is just kind of opening me up to different genres that I haven't done yet. I was glad you had an album because I'm not gonna friend after, you know, we had Cardi up here and he was like, O'Bea wants to come, like yeah, like that beer, but then I was thinking about it, I'm like, did she have an album or something coming up?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Cause I didn't want you up here just, you know, beefing. Yeah, no, crazy. This album was done way before she dropped this. So, you know, I'm not even mad. Like, I'm not mad at her. She actually just like shone the big light on me. saw it's like I have no ill feelings towards her it's rap you know I'm not like it's a competitive it's a sport like you call on me I call on you like it's not it's I don't know it's like this is what
Starting point is 00:31:42 I'm here for yeah that's what we're here for how hard was it to keep a response record off though I'm sure for the fans I'm sure well especially because of how fast you responded when everything was happening I got a studio in my house so like I read just for me to go and get it off I I didn't want to have the same like mentality as I did the first time because I did learn like the energy you put out into the world is the energy you will receive so I was like how do I want to go about this I could say something nasty again but it's like okay and then what you know so you did a record I'm just saying like I'm always doing records I have a studio on my house I record myself so how do we make peace though we got bad bunny at the Super Bowl in February like we want
Starting point is 00:32:27 to see bad bony Latino together. Badboni at this Badbani? Yeah. What does I have to do with I want to see Latinos together? He said what?
Starting point is 00:32:37 But she had Italian so that's how I probably won't let her 50% of her, whatever. She said Leo's doing. Yeah, honestly I don't know, man. This is life. Like, you let it go how it goes.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And they work yourself out. I just show up with good energy and good vibes and everything will come back. Do you really do your own nails? Sometimes. Oh, okay. I don't think that's dope.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah, they're Jellex. Sometimes I have a nail studio like in my house. God damn, what else you got in the house? Yeah, I love my house, yo. That photo you took in front of the BSI when you put, posted that that was in your house, that's the studio in your house. Which one? When you talk about you got the 16 songs weekend in? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:33:20 In the studio, that wasn't in my house. That was in a different studio. But yeah, I do, I got a nice house studio. Like, I love my house. Like, I'm glad too. I'm glad, too, you said something earlier about, you said you made these songs a while ago. Like, you just focused on that because, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:34 even though it's not a shot, but the mention of Stefan Diggs, that line, I don't know what, you know, girl, you're spilling a lot in this, you got let people listen to this thing. Well, I'm just asking because when people see this interview and they start talking about it, they're going to make it seem like it was something that it's not. Yeah, no, I recorded that it was just a bar.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Like, I do bars and metaphors. I could rap, so it's bars and metaphors and bars and all throughout my songs. But what's the line? The line is... Not you wrote it down. Bitch, you can dig it. Yeah, just...
Starting point is 00:34:05 Like Stefan. I missed that one. I didn't... I don't... Yeah, it was on Plus 4-4. Yeah, it was on Plus 4-4-4-4. He said, like, she don't know. I don't know what song that was on.
Starting point is 00:34:15 The album is coming out. I was out today. It's out today. Yeah, you know that you ain't write that a long number. I actually have a TikTok when I recorded that. The day I recorded it was long before this. Wow. So I'll show you.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I'll show you. I got receipts for everything, for real. I'm not a liar, like. Yeah. You craft a lot. I mean, you make a lot of music that travels globally. How do you think about building like a sound that crosses borders? Or do you just make the music?
Starting point is 00:34:43 I do you think to yourself? I want this to hit here. I want this to hit here. Sometimes I have like that intention. Like when me and J. Cole did London, I had that intention to make a song that would bring me to London. But now, like, I just, I just, whatever the beat calls, for is like kind of what I give influence to I this is my first time getting on
Starting point is 00:35:02 I'm a piano records because I have some really good friends Tyler I see you Khalil like they brought me into that space so that was really cool like that's my first time experimenting with that and I wanted it to sound natural not like oh B is trying to make an I'm a piano song even one thing for you right yeah pray for you and one thing is like a is that what is one thing that's not I'm a piano no one thing's kind of like reggae Lauren Hill influence yeah you go from like house music to reggae to Latino, I was like, and it's all so good, too. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:35:32 You're welcome. How do you, when you're trying to focus on what music you're putting on an album, how do you know which ways you want to go? Because it seems like you can do so much as well. And like, what do you want people to know you for? That's the hardest part. My track list, when we throw it up on the whiteboard, there's like 50 to 100 songs. Sometimes we're cutting down from 150 songs.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Like, we are recording all the time. So there's still so much music that I want. wanted to see the latter day that hasn't made it to this album but this was just some of the songs that I felt like was necessary and I really wanted them out like I told you coming back to like the energy I'm putting into the world pray for you I felt like that was necessary one thing a song for girls like I just don't want girls to always feel like they got to be on some low frequency shit like I want stuff that daughters could listen to like you could listen to which your daughter you can listen to which you're you know yeah like I wanted I want people to give I
Starting point is 00:36:27 want to give people the feeling that when I would listen to sometimes a Lauren Hill record like that thing and I would leave with something or like listen to TLC or leave you know it was it wasn't just a feeling of like I want to go shake my ass and shake my tities I want to go and like put something good into the world and I love that because we just had Tadala sign up here and um he had just he's also on your album yeah crazy fire like that too but he was saying um what's what's missing what what should change about the music today I don't want to put words is the subject we everybody talk about the same shit you know like what you just said you don't believe that all we have to listen to is low frequency shit like you want stuff that my daughter can listen to my mother your grandmother you know what I'm saying so I do I do like that I will say this is not a question I love your voice like your tone on any song is you have that sound like it's everybody is not unique in a way where you can hear their voice so you automatically knows them because a lot of people sound the same. You know, so I do love your voice and your tone and all your music.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Thanks, Jess. Yeah, a little time. I want to ask, whose decision was it not to go back in beef, right? And because I'm thinking about it now, the sad thing is, is the album, which is a dope album, when we listen to it, will get overshadowed by the beef, right? Yeah. And the fact that there's no beef there, I'm hoping that people actually get to see who beer is and not just somebody on line beef. So whose idea was, it's like, you know what, I'm not going to do this. I want people to see me, especially for my debut album.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I'd say it was my idea I'm sure it was a hard decision I feel as a rapper as a rapper yeah absolutely I've even been going back and forth foot up until yesterday like I've gone back and forth with it every day is like do I want to respond to this right now because
Starting point is 00:38:12 but at the same time I would be doing a disservice to myself with everything I put into this album making it about her you know like when I could just go and I could drop something at any time like that came a year ago I dropped that record a year ago like it is I would be doing
Starting point is 00:38:33 a disservice to myself I'll say that like there's so much more importance to like my message and like what I'm here for than to rap beef I've been out for over 10 years I've never gotten to a rap beef that says a lot about me like yeah I have great relationships in this business because I carry myself a certain way so why would I ruin that like I can address it at any time time, but I'm just here for a bigger mission right now. I like the fact that Cardi waited, though, only because I just feel like this is still a business at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yeah, why not respond if you're going to respond on your album, you know? That's what you always said. You came from that school, you came from that school, you're going to get my album and I'm having these balls. Maybe I'm going to be here. There we go. No, but I said she came to the school.
Starting point is 00:39:15 If you listened to the album, you could tell me. Yeah, I'm just like on a different vibe. I have like way, I don't know, maybe I'm so happy and peaceful in life right now. Yeah. Like, I'm so happy and so peaceful. So why you end the album saying, well, fuck you, nigga, then? Because that song I did a couple of months ago.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Now I'm like. Hey, yo, she said, well, I can always deluxe. All right, you put it in the air. Because you can be like Chris Brown and put 45 songs on one album. I'm still trying to learn the last one. I'm like, Jesus, I, you know, would you ever do that, though? Like, deluxe extended album? Yeah, I might.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I got a lot of songs still that, like, we really wanted to put. put them on this album that they, I didn't, I just didn't want over a certain amount of songs. So maybe I'll deluxe some, but maybe I'll just put them on a whole different album. Are we getting a tour? Maybe we're getting a tour. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Maybe. Right now, I just want to like, be in your house. Be in my, be in my album mode. Like, I'm gonna like, go outside, perform my songs, do spot these things like that. Got you, got you, got you. Bianca is out Friday. Today, yeah. Bianca is out today, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Bia, which one here off the album? What song you want to play? Um, um, Hmm. Want to hear a bad guy? Bad guy. Bad guy. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah, let's play bad guy. Let's get into bad guy right now. It's the breakfast club. It's beer. Hold up. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The breakfast club.
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