The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Bill Bellamy Talks Comedy Tour, Shannon Sharpe, Diddy's Rise & Fall, Hip-Hop's Legacy + More

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Bill Bellamy To Discuss Comedy Tour, Shannon Sharpe, Diddy's Rise & Fall, Hip-Hop's Legacy. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wake that ass up early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Yep, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne the God, DJ Envy, and Jessa out. But Lauren LaRosa is here, and we got the legendary, the iconic Bill Bellamy is in the building. I love it. I love it.

I love it. The Breakfast Club, we here! Bill, you are aging amazingly, my brother. Thank you, man. You know, I'm only 73. And ain't nothing but coconut water, Lauren. You know, you get coconut water, get a cup of strawberries, blueberries,

and a little bit of shake butter. You look just like me. But you playing, or you just turned 60 a couple weeks ago? That is an amazing 60, my brother. Thank you, man. But I don't know what 60's supposed to look like, because I'm comparing it to what we grew up on. No, no, no, no, no. We didn't knew. We didn't knew.

We didn't knew, because, you know, back in the day, if you told somebody who was 60 years old, they'd be like, man, I just got me some pancakes from IHOP, you know, for free. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, now, you know, we moving, grooving, we work out. You taking care of yourself, you know what I'm saying? We know what we eating. You know what I mean? You watch your diet and, you know,

if you're blessed to have good health, you'll look good. Do you take advantage of that kind of stuff, though? Like the free pancakes from IHOP and all of that? Man, I haven't really leaned into the senior citizen thing, but I really think I need to get like some of them little benefits and stuff. You don't got the AARP card? Yeah, you do or you don't?

I don't have one, you think I should pull up? Yeah, I feel like that's the right passage. That's the right passage. You go ahead on it. But I just don't want to be Unc everywhere. Like, you know what I'm saying, I'm getting Unc now, I'm getting OG, OG is kind of cool. But Unc everywhere. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm getting Unc now. I'm getting OG. OG is kind of cool.

But Unc, like on the basketball court, be making me feel like I can't play no more. Yo Unc, you want the ball? I'm like, yeah. And they're not helping you up off the ground calling you Unc. No, no, but it's a tricky thing. OG is cool.

Unc just in certain cases. And I'll be honest with you, I was in a club. Where was I recently? And I felt like, unk. Like you need to go home. Yeah, I was like, yeah, you know, this music loud. What song was it? Not this music loud.

Because some of the music I just don't know, I feel like I just missed it. Like, I love Glowrilla, but she got this joint that's so fire, but all the girls know the words and I ain't know nothing. And that's when I felt like, I gotta go home. Was it FNF? What is it?

How does it go? Tell me. She got so much since FNF. Yeah. Is it with Sexy Red too? Yes. Okay. It's the independent, the remake of Boosie song.

Yes. Every girl in there from 25 to 35 was going crazy. And I'm at the bar like, man, I gotta go home, man. Y'all ain't playing no naughty by nature. Y'all don't know trash. But that's funny when you say it, cause like when you get to a certain age, when you think about everybody who didn't make it

from our culture. Correct. Does that make you appreciate it more? Yo man, honestly, yes, yes. That's a very, very good thing you said, because you know what, to have a long career is a blessing, you don't know. And then we lost so many people that came up with us.

Charlamagne, you've been my boy forever. Like we came up like at around the same time. Like we went to the same school kind of thing. You know what I mean? We seen, you know, from the little Kim days, to, you know, let's say boys to men, the early 90s. I remember when Busta Rhymes first got on

with leaders of the new school. I remember like the Def Jam offices, like the Source magazine, like all that energy of the 90s. I remember when Q-tip went solo, you know what I'm saying? LL was the like ladies man of rap. There's so many moments of hip hop that we experienced.

And to think now, I'm like, man, that's such a great time for us to be able to experience it. I mean, I remember interviewing Michael Jackson. How many people did it? Just think about that. How many people interviewed Prince? Like, they not even, like like if you would have told me

20 years ago Michael Jackson would not be allowed, like that doesn't make sense. Like I always thought like them dudes would live forever. Like Prince, like he was so damn cool. Michael was so damn cool. Whitney, Jersey girl. Like I have all these wonderful memories of these people. Left Eye, you know, damn.

Like we did all this stuff with MTV, when people were just coming up, people getting on, people getting accepted, they starting to go platinum. So you young, you don't even know if it's young. I know it go platinum. You know platinum? Okay cool, I gotta make sure. I gotta make sure, but like,

like I remember when Usher went Diamond. I remember when the Fugees went Diamond, like Diamond was like way out there. Like you told somebody you went Diamond, they like, what? And that was real albums. I'm talking about hard. I was about to say, I think it's just different for y'all

cause people had to go and get the, you know what I mean? Like right now we streaming, so it's like, okay cool, that's people listening. It's different when all these people going to the store. Nobody is going to the record store like me and Charlamagne. Me and Charlamagne knew, remember Tile Records here in New York. We remember when the album released,

people was lined up to get your album. We remember, I remember taking the plastic off. Remember when you couldn't get the plastic, you needed a razor. God damn, you had to take a key to get the damn album out and then you read, then you, did you ever get a thank you? Did you ever like-

No, I wasn't around. I'm 46, so. Well, I started getting thank yous later on, but that was my early 2000s. Like when you would get the album, you'd be like, yo, I wanna shout out my man, Charlamagne, for your support on my album or whatever, and then I would read all the producers and stuff like that. Those days are over.

You don't even get artwork. What thank yous did you get in artwork? No, we don't get artwork. You don't get no artwork. You just get a song. Chris Brown got a new song? Yeah, it's like a special thing if they release artwork and images. And normally it's like merch and something swaggy.

So you gotta buy a t-shirt to get artwork now. Yeah, unless people do, I forget who. She don't even know what you're talking about. That's why she said t-shirt. He talking about in the album. I know what he's talking about. I'm not that old, I mean that young. Yeah, you are.

I had the Destiny Child Writings on the Wall two side album. I had Michael Jackson. Did you ever go to a drive-in theater? No. I did, but it was like a cool vintage experience. You said it was vintage. We vlogged.

You did not have Michael Jackson Thriller. Why would you tell that lie? What year was you born? 1991. My mom had it in my house. Michael Jackson Thriller? Oh, she had it in the house. Which Michael you like.

But Destiny's Child, I remember going and buying that album and like it opened up like this like and it had all the writings on the wall. Okay see that? Go ahead girl. Your right of passage. Oh my god. You young o. Now you know about a lot of this in top billing but just talk to the people. What was interviewing Michael like? Somebody literally asked me that this weekend. You ever interviewed Michael? I'm like, nah. Interview with Michael Jackson was like talking to, you know, a prince, a king of some sort of, some royalty because of the way he moved, you know what I'm saying? Like he was to me the epitome of being a rock star,

superstar. He had like, if he was in here right now, it'd be 30 people in here, 30 people that you don't know what they do, but they look like they kill people. Three, four publicists. You got the record label people. You got his personal people.

And then everything is just like, oh my God, like you don't wanna make a mistake. And he comes in, everything's set up, the lighting. You just like, I'd be sitting there like this. We gonna do this? And, you just like, I'd be sitting there like this, we gonna do this? And his people be like, no, Michael's gonna do three, five, and nine, thank you. That's how it used to be.

I'm like, and he had his own lighting person? Like you ever heard of a person having a cinematographer for an interview? Now Mariah Carey did that to us. Mariah Carey came in the studio, had her people turn down the lights, and had her team set up lights. And I was like, and I said, Mariah, they only gonna be able to see you. And she was like, that's the studio, had her people turn down the lights, and had her team set up lights.

And I was like, and I said, Mariah, they only going to be able to see you. And she was like, that's the point, darling. That's the whole point, darling. How early did the lighting people get there before Michael got there? Two hours. That same thing that he said is true, because I interviewed Mariah Carey in Hawaii, and Jermaine was there too. And I was like, JD, where's Mariah Carey in Hawaii, and Jermaine was there too, and I was like, JD, where's Mariah?

He was like, yo man, Mariah be down in about three hours. We waiting on her man to get here, DP. I didn't know what that was at the time. So I was like, DP, who's that? He said, that's Daniel Pearl, he'll be here. He like all of Mariah's stuff, right. This dude comes, he got like 10 people, they like, poof, poof, poof, poof.

They doing the little thing, poof, poof, poof. Turn that down to 30%, put that up to 10, five, poof, poof, poof, poof. They doing the little thing, poof, poof, poof. Turn that down to 30%, put that up to 10, five, poof, poof, poof. It looks like heaven. Heaven, heaven, everybody heaven. Bring Mariah out, because the lighting was heaven. Wow. Swear to God.

I was sitting out there black. I got so black, I was sitting out there waiting. Just like, man, she'll be here in another hour. They didn't even give me no water. This is back in the day, MTV stuff. What happened to that era, man? Like can you even build a superstar like that anymore? Yeah, I guess on TikTok.

I learned a lot of great artists on TikTok. I'll just come up with my feed, because when I came up back in the day, we knew who was dropping. We knew that the new Beyonce album was dropping. We knew Jay was dropping something. We knew that, you know, Redman and Memphis doing something. Now I'll get a TikTok video.

That's a challenge or something. I click on that and then I find the artist and I'm like, yo, and I lock it in. That's how I've been doing it lately. Damn. But can those people become those superstar global icons we're talking about? Because I feel like there's a level. Because I feel like there's a level of what's the word? But can those people become those superstar global icons we're talking about? Because I feel like there's a level of, what's the word? There's a level of curation that's not happening anymore. Well, you know what?

We missed a few steps. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'll give you a perfect example. Leon Thomas. Love, love, love Leon Thomas, right? I got windowed. Leon Thomas, by mistake I got window Leon Thomas by mistake.

Mutt was on Instagram and it was doing, somebody was doing a, was singing his song, trying to do like a version of it. I said, damn, this shit's kind of dope. I go click on that. Then I clicked to him and I'm like, oh! Then it's a Chris Brown remix. I had to click to that.

Now I download all that on Spotify. That's how I'm finding artists. It's like, what the fuck? You know what I'm saying? It's like, damn, they don't promote the artists like they used to. Coco Jones right now on fire. Label won't even send her music to the radio station

after the interview. Yeah, I saw you said that. I was like, why would they do that? I have no idea. They did it to us and Angie Martinez. It's like, what are you doing? It's like, nobody gets their press kit sent out no more, where they really show you what the project is,

how they gonna promote it, and how much money they putting behind the artist. Like Coco Jones is fire. She's in a pocket right now to me. And I love her music. I like Givion. Do everybody know? I do.

I think he's dope as hell. I'm trying to think of somebody else that I just was like, oh snap. Snow Allegra. God, Lee, what? Snow is bananas. Is there like a big, big, I had Danny Lee on my podcast.

She's dope too. Then all of a sudden I don't even hear nothing. It's like, yo, she was rolling, rolling. Maida, is it Maida or Maida? Maida? Maida? Am I saying it the right way? Maida?

Maida? Maida's dope. She's a new artist. She was on my podcast. Super dope. I'll give you one more guy. Tone Stiff. You know him?

See? You don't know who Tone Stiff. You know him? See? You don't know who Tone Stiff is. And you young. You better Google it. That sound like a dick joke. I thought you wanted to say Tone Stiff, this dick in your mouth. I was like what?

No, no, no, no, no, no. It's a real artist. But more importantly, you know what I'm saying, like as much as I love music, I'm trying to incorporate that vibe to my new tour, Top Billing. Because it's like, I feel like it's gonna bring people away

Bring people together in a way that they're gonna be very very nostalgic Because I feel like you know what we're talking about is it exists in people They just don't have anybody to bring it together And that's what I want to be I want to be like that The beacon I like to bring music comedy in a and a moment of hip hop that is just incredible to the people. That's what I really want it to feel like when you leave. You're like, damn man, I got way more than I thought.

You know what I mean? And I feel like that's really possible now we got social media, you can shout out clips to people, they can see a little bit of your show, see what's going on. Like yo, I'm going to see that stuff. Whenever I play anything with Mary, Mary just, she just does it for the ladies.

For everybody. Mary is something else. But I don't know the other day I seen her with them boots on her, it looked like her ankles was hurting, was that me? I saw it, you be seeing her on stage, she be looking like she ready to do this. It looked like it hurt a little bit.

She look like she be tired. Yeah, yeah. And I love Mary. Mary, I came up with Mary, I came up with Mary. I love me some Mary. Boom, boom, boom, boom. I just love this part right here. Boom, boom, boom. She got the little bump to it.

Just like that one hip hurt. Mm, mm, mm. No. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to Mary. Love you, Mary. Now, you haven't done a special since 2022, right?

Mm-hmm. So is Top Billining working towards that? Yeah. OK. So I think right now I have an hour of comedy that is crazy funny. Like, I think nobody's talking about what I'm talking about right now.

It's very relevant. I mean, it's so much stuff going on right now, it's very relevant. I mean, it's so much stuff going on right now from Diddy to Shannon Sharpe to Shadour. There's so many elements in the culture that everybody's thinking about, like, oh my God. And I wanna capture this moment because it's right now. So I'm really trying to tape soon so that everything that I'm talking about

will be indicative of this moment in the culture. Okay. I was gonna say how are you, cause I know you got the podcast, but like you obviously, you're so aware of everything because of your background and like interviews and stuff. How do you bring the podcast to the stage?

Like, are you shooting the podcast? Well, I usually shoot the podcast in the studio. I'm gonna try to do the podcast live too, because I think it would be kind of nice to be able to have the energy of the people there too. And then they could ask people questions during my interviews and then we could have some interaction and shoot it that way.

I think that could bring some different energy in season two. I just think it's interesting, because there's a lot of people who try to intertwine all of that, but they're not really as up to date and current as you are. You just rattled off, I'm just sitting here listening,

you just rattled off so much, and I'm like, oh, he's on the headlines. Oh yeah, I have to. Because of your background, you know what you, you know what I mean? Well, you have to be a student of the game as well. For me, I have to read all the time, so at night when the house is quiet,

I'm reading every publication, I'm listening to music. I have to stay in the culture because it's like, there's stuff, it's a language. The culture is a language, right? And so if you get outside the language and then you try to come back, you gonna sound dated. You gonna sound like, oh, they don't even talk like that no more or whatever, you know what I mean?

So for me, it's very important for me to stay very, very relevant and conscious of what's popping. I watch you, I watch you now. I watch jazz, I watch the new comedians, I watch the news and seeing like, oh shoot, I watch the headlines that's popping off on social media like, oh, everybody's talking about this.

What's the deal? You know what I'm saying? Get in the trenches with it. Oh wow, this is a good angle. So what I do with comedies, I'll take like something that's a real subject matter and flip it. You know what I mean? And now you laughing, but you like, oh my God,

that's crazy, what made him say that? Because you gotta know it. So how do you flip something like the Shannon Sharp situation? We just... Well, first of all, Shannon Sharp did not see how to be a player at all So let's just just let's get that out. He must have missed the VHS and the DVD release

Yo, he 56 years old he should have seen it coming it was right on it What's that sound your ass is coming? It's coming. What's that man? What's that sound your ass is coming? It's coming. What's that man skip should have known not skip Shannon sharp should have known when when that first tape leaked that we got slow down. Yeah, it's a little bit It's a little bit too much. Yeah, baby. What's okay? Talk to it I didn't even know I was live. They tell me baby. Listen now now if you are going live and you don't know what you two are. You know how to get on live? Of course! And you got to click click to do it. So he wanted to be live. They told to me baby to tell daddy what it is. Tell daddy what it is. Right? He full throttle got caught on that one. Everything should have been shut down,

went to some type of class. You can't talk nasty no more. You can't talk nasty, Shannon. Calm down, get you a nice, nice, solid woman over to the corner of that one, and just lay low for a minute till this. What is it? Not even eight, nine months later?

I don't think it's that, it hasn't been that long. It is not even that. He back in them streets. Damn. You mess up the bag. I'm telling you right now, white girls can't even say nothing to me. I was at the door part of the white,

oh nice dog, I took my dog and ran. I wasn't even trying. I'm not trying. I'm like, I'm like Jonathan Mets. Whoop whoop, can't do it. What about the age difference? Because he was 54 when he met her, she was 19.

Ah, thank God. Thank God she was 19. It's too far. See, I got a young daughter, so I can't even process. How old is your daughter? My daughter's 21. So I'm thinking that's, I'm thinking like my daughter, me and Shannon in the alleyway scrapping,

I can't wear that, you know? But, you know what I'm saying, these cats, I don't know. Athletes are different. I'll just be honest, I think it's a difference with these type of guys. Like they get attracted to certain things that are different. Like why do like most football players like strip clubs?

I don't know, they just like that. I mean, when I did any given Sunday, that's when we was in strip club. Come on dog, let's go see the girl man, real talk man, blow off some steam, drink a little bit, get back to the hotel. You saw one this weekend in the strip club. Two.

Football players love strip clubs for whatever reason. Is it because of their like, their industry takes so much like aggression and like ugh, so they like. I don't know what it is, man. I just think that it's a fantasy, you know what I mean? And I think once the fantasy is sort of sparked, like that's the kind of women they're attracted to.

Like, I don't know why, you know, Shana Sharp would have to get a girl from OnlyFans. I mean, that seems real thirsty. That's crazy, yeah. That's crazy, like, you couldn't just get a regular fan Like somebody Turn around baby, let me see it. Like, yo, what are you doing? Like, come on man, it's like, here's the thing.

When you with Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse, that's this. You gotta keep it clean, you know, you can't be nasty, baby. You can't be, no, no, no, no, no, uncle, uncle, uncle, uncle, can't do that now. But you said something that's important. What's that? Like you said after the first situation. You gotta slow down. But you said he shoulda went to like some type of class.

Something! That development isn't there no more for nobody. It's not there for musical artists, it's not there for personalities. Like you got people that literally going in their living room and becoming like these phenomenons overnight, cause of podcasts and YouTube and streaming. But Shannon Sharpe has been famous for a while.

He's been famous for a while. He comes from that time of like y'all should. Different level of fame. This is like, he was always dope, you know, football player, always Hall of Fame, da da da. But this is a wave, like he got like boom, you know, Cap Williams gave him that boom, you know, it's like, then you get on, you leave, skip, boom,

come to ESPN, that's like, that's a rockin' wave, right? So you know you rolling, you know the light on, you gotta kinda be careful. He needed an auntie, man. See, this is what's lost in the culture. Old school black auntie. An auntie be like, Shani, you can't do that, baby. Uh-uh, now you done got too nasty.

Monique tried to tell him. Yeah, Monique tried to tell him. Yeah, Monique tried to tell him. Yeah, Mo, yeah, Mo was trying to help him, but you know, he like what he like. What you gonna do? Now, can you wear it? See what I'm saying? Can you wear it now?

So what do we do from here? Like, how do you, how do you, how do you Olivia Pope that? What would you do? Like, what do you do? I mean, I mean, he ain't kill nobody, you know what I'm saying? He just gnashed it.

It ain't a crime, is it? You two gnashed it, no? There's other stories. More stuff? Well, it's stuff that has been documented before prior, like actual legal things. Ah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I don't know.

Charlamagne, you be in the trenches. Oh, that's because of Lauren. I be in here listening to her. Lauren, you know the good, like it's a lot more to it than this? I mean, it's out. The choking and the duh. In the BDSM, it's out.

There's a woman who just came out recently and dropped a defamation lawsuit. It's talking about sexual assault. Okay, so BDSM. And he's walked away from networks before. Ah. So this BDSM is like like that's the bondage stuff is that what we talking about you 60 years old, you know, I'm just saying okay No, I'm just saying like that that that is a that's a lane

So, I mean that's a lane. Let's be honest, that's a lane. I know, I'm just saying, you might have to come out with some T-shirts. He's not- I've got the funk. I don't know, I don't know, when you in that lane, that's a tricky lane. That's like driving your car 100 miles an hour

with no seatbelt, shit gonna happen. You did, like, that's a a tricky lane because it's edgy. That's what I think is the pull for people. It's so edgy, but it can always go left because where's the line? Where's the line? You wildin', where's the line where we can come back or like say, this is the thing that's tricky.

You could be all good on Saturday, we go back to do it again Sunday, you might not be on that right now. So now it's a bad deal. I think at this point, at Shannon Sharpe's age, he needs to sit still with a person, like marriage, something. I think he should do a turkey drive.

What? That's a bad thing. Turkey drives always fix stuff. No, that is the playbook. That's the playbook, you do it to me, a playbook. That is a playbook. You do it to your nothing around. No, turkeys make people feel good. Man, he giving out turkeys.

What? He didn't do it? You ever notice? Oh my God. You ever notice when somebody do something bad, they always do turkey drives? And then they send me the photos exclusively. Yes, I know. Yo, you've been seeing them.

Oh my god. You've been seeing them like, hey, thank you. It'd be a bunch of turkeys. It's going to be summertime though. You gotta give out turkeys, Shannon. That's the trick. Where's my camera? Right here.

Hey, look, Shannon, do a turkey drive. Just give out turkeys randomly all over the country. Hey, baby, get going little turkey, get going little turkey. By the time they get that 30-perfect turkey, this'll be over. Just kidding. And they gotta be butterball. Yeah.

Listen, now you grew up in that era of- Oh my God, that's so funny. Go ahead. Of the 90s, when bad boys- He got his fans. He started laughing. He be going through menopause. He got menopause. Okay, go ahead, Charlie B.

When you look at the Diddy situation, did you ever think the culture of hip hop would catch up with people the way that it did? Because a lot of this is lifestyle. Ah, well, well, well, well. I'll be honest with you, man. The Diddy situation is just, it's going to hurt us. It's's gonna hurt us all no matter what, how it comes out, but it's gonna hurt the culture because to me, why I say that is because what he's done for the culture before all of this is phenomenal.

Like it never happened before. You know what I'm saying? So when I think about his career from where he started at Uptown, intern, doing parties, I feel like I was coming up on MTV when Bad Boy got, like I remember Puff literally giving out flyers. Like literally Bad Boy t-shirt on his shoulder, he out there with the street team,

this is when his label was about to pop off. Cool. To cut to becoming a mogul and a guy that's an incredible influencer in the hip hop culture, pop culture, right? To come to this point, I didn't see that coming. You know what I'm saying? You didn't?

You've been around. I know, but I didn't know all the other stuff that people were saying. That's just like like all this stuff It's just so like oh my god. Oh, it's so many. Oh my god. No turkey drive can fix You know, yeah, we never thought that he would have been in jail. Yeah, I would never say in jail is crazy What life yeah, like we look at it. That's crazy. Like I mean god dang, you know saying cuz we came up Hop, let me tell you,

the 90s was really a fly 10 year run for everybody that was coming up through it. Cats is getting record deals of substantial money. I remember when Janet Jackson got her like 40 million dollar virgin deal or something crazy. Remember when they was giving out numbers for artists? 90 million, this, that, and the other, whatever, whatever. Puff got a $100 million deal, I remember that.

That was a big deal in New York. People was like, yo, Puff got his own label now. Boom, boom, boom, Clive Davis, some, some, something. Boom, pow, boom, 100 million. Because I'm interviewing all the artists. So I'm right there with Craig Mack. I'm there with Big. I'm there with Total.

I'm there with, who else he had? Faith Evans. Faith Evans. 112. 112. 112, like I'm interviewing all the artists. So I'm seeing this brother. Mace. Mace. The Hustle.

Oh my God. What you gonna do talking about I-Land, C&T, all them in the head rest. You remember this? You was probably four, right? Like I came up with Mason, those guys, and Cameron and guys. So just think about like, oh man,

I just seen like these guys making money, now dudes that look like me, that came from situations like me, we out here eating, to now, like damn. So let's say, even if he were to get out of it, his image is smashed. So it's like, even if he were to get out of it, his image is smashed. So it's like, damn, man, you could do all this good and do one thing and people never feel the same.

Like, you know what I'm saying? They'll never look at you the same. So that's the part that gonna hurt the culture to me. I think it's the, but wait, hold on, before I say that, why do you think it'll hurt the culture though? Because he's one piece. That's a big part of it. He's a huge part of our culture.

Like, there's very few people that did what Puff did for hip hop and like the culture, like very few people have done what Jay-Z has done. How many rappers you know, you know a lot of rappers, but you don't know a lot of rappers that became billionaires. You don't know a lot of rappers that came out the street that you've seen on the block go from being on the block to being on a TV show with you,

from that to being doing world tours to becoming a mogul, like that's a crazy ride. Like you mean to the legacy of her. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, the legacy of what you've created. Yeah, for sure. I think about your kids. Like I'm thinking that I have children, so I think about your kids. Like I'm thinking that I have children.

So I think about his children. Like that's their dad. Like, you know, they don't want nothing to happen to their dad. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, what do you do? Like, how do you take care of your kids if you're in a bad situation like that?

Like, what do you do? Are they trying to take all your money? Do you have to stash your money all the way? You know what I mean? You got a family. He's got, like, a beautiful family. So now, and then the trial about to start. I'm up here.

Lauren will be there every day? You're going to be, you're going to, are they going to televise it? It will be, it says that you can't, did it say? Are they going to televise the trial? Today they announced it's an open bar. No, open bar is crazy.

What did you say it was? You said it was something. It's first come first serve. There you go. First come first serve. First come first serve. Open bar at No, open bar is crazy. What did you say it was? You said it was something. It's first come first serve. There you go. First come first serve. First come first serve. Open bar at the trial. That's crazy.

Broadcasting and recording is prohibited. What is it? Broadcasting and recording is prohibited. But it is first come first serve for a media. So you can sit in there? Yeah, you can sit in. You're going to go in? Mm-hmm.

Oh my god. I'm going to go in. Because to your point, first of all, I just think it's. How do you get that opportunity? That's beautiful. What's that? First come first serve. You can go. You can go with media. Oh, so you're just going to get a, oh, I'm not.'s... How do you get that opportunity? That's beautiful. What's that first thing I did? I'm just gonna go. You could go immediately.

Oh, so you just gonna get a, oh, oh, oh, I'm not, you right, I didn't think of it like that. I was just like, well, maybe they invited you because you're doing this and they want... Oh, no, they didn't invite me. I emailed them. You say, I'm going. Yeah, but I, but I forgot what I was gonna, oh.

To your point though, the reason why I wanna go is because, yes, I wanna have like firsthand account for the show, but also too, this is something that's happening that I think for years to come, people are gonna look back at like, oh wow, that really happened. So to be first-hand account is- This is like the OJ trial for hip hop, for real.

Like this is gonna be like the OJ trial was in the 90s for hip hop because one of hip hop's biggest pioneers is on trial. Like yo, people gonna be watching it. Watch what I'm telling you. It's gonna be all over the, anything they say in court, boom, boom, boom, the charges, people that, you know how many people that's probably gonna testify

that we don't know, that's gonna pop up, that we know? You be like, you gonna be like, yo, oh snap! Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And some of the testimony gonna be funny. It's gonna be like, yo, oh snap. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And some of the testimony gonna be funny. It's gonna be horrible, but it's gonna be funny. And you know it. It is. It is.

You know some of it's gonna be funny. Ah, it's gonna be a field day for comedians. I got a real question for you. How you been around all this time, did all this stuff, but you ain't never been to a ditty party? I didn't get invited like that. I missed it. But I'm happy.

God is good. Won't he do it? Won't he do it? You ain't gotta go to everything. I heard that. I'm not cool. But you was like, I mean. But I was right there though.

You were, that's what I'm saying. And that was like the iconic, like when they were partying here in New York and all of that. I remember that in Hamptons and all this, yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep, I remember all that. Did you ever have to fight to get hip hop on MTV back then? Yeah, man.

Charlamagne, come on, you know what we did. Okay, so this is how it was. So when I came on MTV, it was mostly rock. They was tiptoeing with hip hop. Well, we gonna play a little bit. We gonna play a little bit over here with Yo. We got Yo MTV Raps. Those guys, Ed and Dre are doing a great job.

Blah, blah, blah. I wasn't even on the channel yet. So now we're getting this hybrid show that's going to show you that hip-hop is crossing over a little bit. We not only gonna do Nas, but we gonna do Salt and Pepper. We gonna do LL. We gonna do Leaders of the New School.

We gonna do Domino, and we gonna do Coolio, and we gonna do this young dude named Snoop. So now you gettin' all these new artists. You got Ice Cube now, you got this, you got that. So now the plate got bigger. So I just happened to be the guy delivering the plate to the people, like yo, we got this, we got this, we got this, oh my God, we got this girl

from Detroit named Boss, nobody mentions her. But she's the boss? Boss, Boss was a young artist came up, just like the Brat, like Brat was the first platinum female artist girl to go platinum. Like, people don't talk about that no more. She was the first artist to go platinum female.

Not Latifah. That's a fact. MC Lyte, it was the Brat. Solo artist. Solo rap artist. Solo rap artist. You talking to me like you teaching me. I'm just, because I feel like I'm bringing you. I knew that, but go ahead.

You did know that. Okay, I'm doing it to you. I didn't know that. Okay, I'm doing, you knew that. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. So my point being is, I just think it was really, really a blessing for me at that time, just to be in the right place at the right time

because I love the music and I love us. You know what I'm saying? I wanted you, if you was a new artist, I'm like, I'm trying to get you on. I'm like, yo, you gotta come on here. Make sure you get, fix her hair. Make sure she looks fly. Okay, cool cool I'll fix her hair. No, no, but what I'm saying, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can figure this out later. So real quick Anything go on turkey drive

I already do See how you ain't been in a truck I already do one every year. Do an opinion. And you see how you ain't been in no trouble? Throw them turkeys on the ground. They just forget. It just make people go, he ain't do nothing. He gave me a turkey.

What was the biggest thing that MTV passed up on that you were like, you fought for and they was like, nah, we good. And then later, like now you're looking back like, man, that was iconic moment we could have. I can't remember that. And then later, like now you looking back like, man, that was iconic moment we could have had. Ah! I can't remember that. I can remember what they almost blew on. There's a couple of things that happened like this. One I remember very, very vividly was H-Town. So H-Town was on Luke Records, right?

So you got- Oh, the group. The group. Knockin' the Boots. Okay. Knockin' the Boots. So you got- Oh, the group? The group. Knocking the Boots. Okay. Knocking the Boots. So I was in like, in the South, I was doing a show or something

and I heard Knocking the Boots. I said, oh my God, what is that? I go back to MTV. I'm like, listen, this dude's down to goddamn Tuscaloosa. Got this song that's fire, everybody going crazy. This dude's down to goddamn Tuscaloosa. Got this song that's fire and everybody going crazy. I was like, we gotta get this on MTV. Oh my God, who is it?

What is it? Oh my God, H-Town, Luke Records. Oh my God, we can't touch Luke. Luke is, cause at this time Luke is like, you know, he is the Hugh Hefner of hip hop. They doing, pop that, what is it? Pop that booyah and all that. They rugged, they wild, they wild.

But he got an R&B group that's not. They just, a sexy R&B. I go in there, I show them the tape, I say, yo, this is that and the other, blah, blah, blah. They're like, oh my God, go to the billboard. Let's see what it is. Is it doing, is it a heat seeker? What is it doing on the charts?

I was like, it don't matter what the billboard. Let's see what it is. Is it doing? Is it? Is it a heat seeker? What is it doing on the charts? I was like, it don't matter what the charts is. I'm telling you, this song right here is crazy. We get the video. They still on it. We put it on the air. Oh my god, Bill. Oh my god. You're you're you know, you know music. I've been telling y'all. You see, that's the thing, when you live in the tower,

you're not on the ground, you don't know the people, right? So that's why I never stay in the tower to this day. I never stay in the tower because you don't know what the fuck going on. Did you ever get a chance to try to group that? Yeah, they know. Oh, okay. I got the plaque.

Oh, okay. That was a real risque song back then when you think about it. Yeah, because it was knocking the boots and plaque. Oh, okay. That was a real risque song back then when you think about it. Yeah, because it was knocking the boots and it was boom, boom. You know, it was a lot of grinding and you know. Interesting. You do remember that when we used to.

I wonder what the difference between knocking the boots and Sex U Up was. Nothing! That's what I'm saying. They white. They're multicultural. You're right. There you go.

You know, we nasty, they pleasant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure them people didn't have no problem with sex you up. We did Color Me Bad, I Wanna Sex You Up, yeah. So all them groups, like now, you won't even see groups no more. We had Color Me Bad, Boys To Men, Shy. Jodeci. Jodeci.

Girls. High five. Damn, high five. High five. Brownstone. We had Jade. Who else? Give me another group, give me another group. Give me another group. 702. 702.

Mm-hmm. Damn. Total, there's so many, man. I love Total, though. That was just cool. Can't you see what you do to me? I saw somewhere that you said you regret coining the term booty call.

I ain't regret it. I regret that I didn't trademark it. Oh, got you, got you, got you, got you. I would have had a lot of money. If I had trademarked that right now, it'd be a hologram sitting right here. What inspired that term? What made you come up with that term?

It was the way I was writing the jokes at the time. What was her name? The girl? Yes. I don't remember I Didn't have the girl didn't have a name in in this in the show. It was basically Don't talk about the girl you actually slept with that inspired I'll tell you what she was she was of age. I know that I know she was at least 24, 25, something like that. At least.

How old were you? 24, 25, something like that. I try to keep it even. You know what I mean? Keep it even. But, yeah, so booty call came from me just talking about a girl coming to your crib. You know what I mean? I had just got a brand new crib, loft joint,

you know, I'm getting that money now and stuff. So I was just like, oh man, it's crazy when you want chicks to come by. And I'm like, damn, they always bring a friend and stuff, like to blow the vibe. Because the thing about it was, booty call is basically like, you call this chick up and you're hoping she answers,

she answers like, yo, what you doing? She's like, oh my God, I don't know. You like, yo, won't you come through for a second? You hoping she say yes. She's like, yeah, I could just slide through in about an hour. We like, oh, you are happy, whatever. And then you get in your house and get together.

You like trying to set it up. You putting the candles and stuff, you know, you trying to make it fly. And then she come to the door and she got her friend. She like, hey, babe, you like, what is that? And she like, how long y'all gonna be? Cause she bring the ugly girlfriend, the block case, it ain't going right.

She got to, she got to out. Y'all know how y'all do team, team defense. You ready to go, Lauren? What? They do that. We do. Girls do that. Or you set up the phone call. You be like, yo, if I text you this word, call me,

cause then I can say it's an emergency and I gotta do it. They do team defense on us. Say for us you ain't on her. Don't act like anybody ever did that. And you were trying to buy her a drink and she ain't like it. Her girl will come over like, we gotta go, your baby. Your baby sitter is leaving.

Or they'll do some crick. So you just want- You told me you didn't have no kids. Well, it's a baby I just found. So anyway, they make up stuff, but that's team defense for y'all, right? Yeah. See, told you.

Damn. Would you have known what the dude, like if you had trademarked it back then and it like once it started blowing up and the movie's going and all that, would you have known what the dude with it or you would have just sat? I think I would have just did merchandise and stuff like that,

because people still say booty call. They try to say Sneaky Link, but it don't. Sneaky Link don't. Sneaky Link sound like it's contagious. It's the same thing as a booty call, though. I know, but it don't, it sound like you get a rash from a Sneaky Link, right? Sneaky Link.

Booty call sound like, booty call sound like I got some booty, it was fun. Sneaky Link sound like, mm. See, now they not even saying Sneaky Link is Booty call sound like, booty call sound like, I got some booty, it was fun. Sneaky link sound like, mm. See, now they not even saying sneaky link, it's fine shit now, so it's like, like you be like, you my little fine shit. Yeah, like my little fine shit coming over. My little fine shit.

I'm too old for that. I don't want fine shit, I want that booty. What happened to wifey? I mean, those two. Nobody got wifeys no more? Nah. It depends on like, you know, where y'all are in the stages of things But so if okay right now you meet somebody you have another great group next

boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom, but what if she could feel my dick getting hard right now They was talking about getting hard in the dirt. I wonder if she can feel excited. He was talking about being hard in the club. I can't hide it. Girl, you're dancing through real close. Y'all just made it. Y'all packaged it well.

Packaged it real well. Turned into, won't you be my wifey? So you gotta start somewhere. Gotta start with the- That's what I'm saying, there's levels. Levels to the shit. My little fine shit, then it's like, that's bae, then it's like, that's wifey, now we lit together.

You got a booty call, cause you go home and she there anyway, and she don't wanna give you nothing anyway, cause she been seeing you every day. Don't forget, bad baby mama, dead beat, that can happen too. Not in my trajectory. So now, like on social media, baby mama's BM, right? Yeah.

I had to figure that out. I was like, BM. That was a car. Yeah, I bought two of those. Bought two of those. And YN is Young Niggas. Yes. You want to stay away from those.

Definitely want to stay away from those. R.I.O.G. So that's the people that the YNs mess up the club. The mask. Yeah, we used to call them killers. So they just date the killers that be in the corner that as soon as we see them, we leaving. That's right.

Okay, that's right. That's right. Did you bring me up to speed, Elle? I got you. Thank you. You said you want to do another How to Be a Player. Are you really working on an updated version of that? What would that even look like in 2025?

Oh my God, the woke auntie's gonna be pissed. Shani Sharp will not be in it. Oh, you, nobody that's messing up got anything to do Shani Sharple not being it. All you, nobody that's messing up got anything to do with how to be a player too. Nope, nope, nope, nope. Is it even worth being a player? Cause Kendrick Lamar said, and I agree with him

on the new album, GNX, he says, you better off being with one woman, everything tricky right now. Yeah, it's tricky right now. I think for the comedy of it, it would be really good for the culture. I feel like it would be good because it's nostalgic. Everybody's the right age now.

Some cats was like in their teenage years, some cats was in their 20s, whatever. I think if we do it coming, like if it comes out next summer, I think it would be perfect because we can talk about certain things. You know, how technology is blowing cats up. You know what I'm saying? Leaving your phone open, girl using your face

while you sleep. I feel like we should have alarms on our phones. You know what I'm saying? You sleep and your girl try to go, bong, bong, bong, bong. Or you could just not have nothing in the phone. That's true too, Bill. We always got something in our phone.

You know you got stuff. Everybody got something in their phone that something you just be like, nah, I didn't think nobody was going to see that. Your phone clean. I mean, I don't. Thank you. I'm out here on my own, though.

I do what I want to do right now. What I'm saying, but if your phone was just left open and people went to swipe it, would you be good? No. See, look at the pause. I would. My phone clean. She said which phone? Also, two of the other. OK, now, I'm the pause. I would, my phone clean. She said, she said, which phone?

Also, two, okay, now, I'm not going to. What if you did an updated version of the brothers? That's supposed to be happening, right? And you had Dr. Umar in it, mad at you and your character because how much you like white women. Dr. Umar would be

bananas. He would just show up on my dates. Yes, he's a cousin. Come on, brother! Every time you're out, he just pops up for no reason. Don't let the bunnies get you, brother. Boy, if Dr. Umar have a mixed baby, I'm a pass out. It'll never happen. No, I'm just joking.

Some things in life will never happen. I'm betting on that one. Dr. Umar, he's staying on business with his stuff. Boy, he hit it so hard. He better not even drink white milk, you hear me? He better have brown rice in his house. I don't wanna hear it. He is over the top.

Word. I love watching him just go off. He just come through my phone. Every now and then I'll be swiping on my phone and he'll be like, listen brother, I'm gonna tell you what you need. You need a sister. Keep this culture, keep the vibe.

I'm like, oh Lord. Could we forgive Dr. Umar if he got with a white woman? Like we found out. Oh no, we would go crazy. Black people would go crazy. I knew it! You know, we want you to fall. You know, black people.

So what could he do to get everything back and get back in our good graces? Turkey Drive. What could he do to get everything back and get back in our good graces? Turkey Drive. For black people, a turkey drive solve all your problems. Just go, Costco, right now. You know you're gonna do some dumb shit,

get you a bunch of turkeys. As soon as that shit drop, you just start giving them out and people forgive you. Bill Bellamy, his top billing toys going on right now. He's gonna be at the Improv Comedy Club May 3rd and the forgive you. It's Bill Bellamy, his top billing tour is going on right now. He's gonna be at the Improv Comedy Club May 3rd and the 4th. Yeah, I'll be in Brayard, California. Yes, Brayard, California.

Full-winning the anime, 9th and 11th in the Summit City Comedy Club. He'll be at the Chicago Improv in Schomburg, Illinois, May 16th through the 18th. The Miami Improv in Miami, Florida, May 30th through the June 1st, and the Funny Bone Comedy Club in Cleveland, June 6th through the 8th.

Let's go, man. Let's go, man. That's how we do it, man. Thank y'all so much. Man, always a pleasure. Welcome to the team, yeah. Oh, thank you. I had another question.

You didn't know who I was, did you, Rob? Go ahead. No, I didn't know. No, I never had a chance to meet her. We didn't get to meet a lot. I only met Donnell because he had a lot going on. He had like this, I'm in the airport or something, and I had to call him.

Okay. I ain't never had to call your team, so it's a good thing. Thank. But I had a question for you. Wait, you're still married, right? Is your wife white? Oh, okay, because I was looking, I thought that your wife was white. No, she mixed.

She got like Indian in her family. Okay, all right, because with Dr. Umar, I'm like, he laughing, he's having a hard time. No, no, my wife is so goddamn black. That's the only reason why I was like, wait, Dr. Umar jokes, don't let him get you in the comments. Oh no, he can't get me.

But you know Wendy used to get me though. She always did. But people don't realize that black people come in every shade. I saw that clip of Wendy last night when I was getting ready. I didn't see that one. Because it was so funny,

because my wife looks so, like you don't know if she wear hair this way, it's one thing, where, you don't know what the hell's going on right and so one day it was windy windy was like so bell you know this is the good the good days of windy or whatever Bell so what is your wife you know you're trying to I was like she black have black have white one two is one side is the good times of size Bradyunch. How was I to know?

How the fuck I know? That's another one. Did you ever think Wendy would be in a situation that she's currently in? Man, I just hope she can get her life back and I don't know who signed her off on this goofy thing conservatorship. It's scary, like it made me realize

no matter how successful we get, we should make sure that nobody can just take over us. You know what I mean? You make sure your paperwork is in order, you make sure your paperwork, you will never know you get sick and then have some weird person telling you your family can't do nothing, you can't do nothing. Nah, take care of your business and pray for Wendy. When people tell all these stories about like these iconic interviews and hip hop stuff,

why don't they mention you more and stuff? Cause people, I don't know why, like I think what happens is people forget, you know what I mean? Cause they always jump into the next. You gotta do your history. That's why I can come to the breakfast club and have a good time because you guys know,

like there's certain things you know, and then I grew up here. So it's certain things that people be like, yo, I'm remember. Like I'm from Jersey, right? I'm from Jersey. So the crazy thing, like I remember the first time I met Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson was at Webster Hall at a party, right? This was when Mike was Mike.

Mike would knock somebody out and be in a club. Like Mike would knock somebody out and literally be in a club with us, right? The first time I met Mike Tyson, right? And I didn't know Mike Tyson knew who I was yet. And we in the men's bathroom, I'll never forget this. And Mike comes in, I'm like, I can see him in the mirror. You know, you're at the urinal, you can see us. Oh shit, that's Mike, oh shit.

He was like, man, you're very funny, William. He called me William. I don't know why he called me William. You're very funny, man. I love you in Def Comedy, you're really funny, man. He called me William. I don't know why he called me William. You're very funny, man. I love you on Def Comedy Jam. You're really funny, man. I appreciate you, man. I was like, yo, that's Mike, motherfucking Tyson, man.

I was like, damn, he right there. But I told Mike, I said, Mike, you know you the first hip hop champ. Absolutely. Like, he was of the culture. Like, we literally could watch Mike at Madison's Ware Garden and see him at Nell's like he would just be one of the first hip-hop mainstream stars to right whether whether he knew that or not yes Mike left

a Bentley Rolls Royce in the middle of the street somewhere right you remember it was a Rolls Royce I get if you read Bobby Brown's's book, Bobby says him and Mike used to do that all the time. They'd be in different cities and see somebody, give them a bag of cash, just buy their car and leave it. These guys were making so much money back then that it was unbelievable. They didn't know what to do. No.

She don't even know. I looked it up. No. What kind of car was it? There was a story about Mike Tyson leaving a Rolls Royce on the street in 1988 1988 yeah, they were gonna take the car from him So he let him and keep it but after photographers saw them and the captain saw the picture

They ordered him to return they give the car back to him. No officers were suspended ten days without pay Yep, and then he offered at lover the road the Rolls Royce Wow I think MTV also hasn't done a good job of, a good job of preserving the content that, I don't think BET, but I'll be honest with you, BET either, there's gold, platinum, classic material between MTV and BET. They should be airing it like a TV show

because it's literally music history. You know what I'm saying? That's how it was getting ready for this yesterday, watching some of the, you have old clips on YouTube. I got so much stuff, I remember interviewing Aaliyah. I mean, I just hit pop back in my head and she was showing me the one, two, check, everybody know. What's up?

That was her first album she did. We would sit there and watch that all day. With you narrating, yours, Fab Five, Freddie narrating, yeah, Ed Lover narrating, you on TV. Like we watched that all day. Only you fanned out over Janet Jackson. The Janet Jackson interview, you were like, you had a crush on her.

Oh my God. That interview for you was big. I just didn't, I didn't know what to do by myself. You know, if I knew Jermaine could pull it, I would have pulled it. You know what I mean? He just had more courage. He caught it straight.

He caught it straight. Pew! No, no, I love JD, but JD pulled up. I did, I mean, you know what I'm saying? I was on two of one and everything, and I was just like, dang, you know, I ain't, it was so interesting because we had such a really cool friendship

that I didn't know, like I didn't wanna mess it up like crossing the line, you know what I'm saying? So I never did, but the thing about it was she used to flirt with me on camera, like in front of everybody, and I was like, what? But I would be like stuck because I didn't know what to do with it, right? You know what I'm saying?

I'd be like ah, she ain't really mean that. Ow! You know what they say, if you can make her laugh, you can crack her ass. Bro! I promise you, but you gotta understand, she was so big at the time. So I'm thinking like, you know, this is Janet Jackson,

you know what I'm saying? Ah man, I don't know. But then she'd be like, Bill come by the house. I'd be like. You never went by the house? Oh yeah, I went by the house. And you what? like, Bill come by the house. I'll be like. You never went by the house? Oh yeah, I went by the house. And then what? Well, it was a bunch of us.

Oh, okay. I was never like, alone with her like that. Like I would party with them and stuff because we was on tour together and stuff. You know what I mean? But I should have pulled up though. I ain't know. I should have came over there with a turkey.

Be like, yo. Got you a turkey, Janet. It's Bill Bellamy, man. Where can they follow you, Bill? Oh, follow me Got you a turkey, Janet. It's Bill Bellamy, man. Where can they follow you, Bill? Oh, follow me at Bill Bellamy on Instagram. I'm on TikTok. I'm on Facebook, wherever it is.

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