The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Bossman DLow Talks 'DLow Curry' Album, Hoop Dreams, Switching His Flow, Responding to VladTV + More

Episode Date: December 13, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Bossman DLow To Discuss 'DLow Curry' Album, Hoop Dreams, Switching His Flow, Responding to VladTV. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:52 We got Boss Mandilo. Welcome. First time up here. How you feeling, brother? I'm cooling, bro. You got all the money, man. What you got in that left pocket? He got it all right now.
Starting point is 00:03:01 What's in the right pocket? Show me something. Yeah, you got something. Aye, aye. Man, people love you. They call up, ask why you haven't been up here yet and everything. People will love you, yo.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I think I was supposed to be in a comment. Yeah, what happened? They say you got sick. They say you got sick. Yeah. They say you got sick. What's been going? Yeah, what's wrong with your immune system?
Starting point is 00:03:20 What's happening? What's wrong with your immune system? This is crazy. All right, shit. You ain't got enough water on tour. I'm show after show, sometimes three, four shows a night. He done messed up, I'm sure. You gotta wear condoms too, man.
Starting point is 00:03:35 All that got. What? Yeah. He said immune system. No, I wasn't that. Just, you know, that shit. I ain't gonna lie like that. I had my last show in Daytona.
Starting point is 00:03:47 It was like, I was about to pass out. Kind of like blacked out for like five seconds type shit. Is it the drinking? Is it the smoke? Dehydrated type shit. I ain't drinking no water, trying to, you know, Don Julio and shit. Now, you say this yourself or did the doctor say you need to drink more water?
Starting point is 00:04:02 Because that's the first thing when somebody gets sick and they need to drink more water. Yeah, yeah, the doctor said it. Oh, the doctor said it doctor say you need to drink more water? Because that's the first thing when somebody gets sick and they're like, I need to drink more water. Yeah, yeah, the doctor said it. Oh, the doctor said it, okay. He said, drink more water. It happened to me. Passed out one time, years ago.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Wildin', out all night, we'd be in the clubs every night. I passed out on the floor in the studio. Right there on the floor. You know what I did? Dehydrated. I laughed. I'm in front of all these people, the lights, I'm like, damn, I can't pass out right here like that.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Mm-hmm. Oh, that shit crazy. I had to slow it down right quick. What you doing to help that though? Are you still drinking water? Cause I just offered you one. You was like, no, I'm good. I'm starting to drink it.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah, I'm drinking water. You know, I'm trying to work out a little bit. You gonna cut back on the Don Julia? Yeah, I'm done drinking. That's what's up. I gave it up, I'm sober. So you're not drinking at all no more. I ain't drinking.
Starting point is 00:04:43 So what was the last experience? Something must've got you. I really didn't even I'm sober. You're not drinking at all no more. I ain't drinkin'. So what was the last experience? Something must have got you. I really didn't even drink like that. Like I wasn't no drunk. Like I'd really never really drink. I just take a little sip to loosen me up for the show. Type shit but. You really talk like how you rap.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I know. Yeah. Yeah. Like the hell yeah. Got shit. Have you ever performed sober? Come out like that. you ever performed sober? Come out like that. You ever performed sober?
Starting point is 00:05:10 Nah. You think you can? Like what you mean, like all the way sober? Yeah, all the way. Nah. Like sober is sober. Nah. You know?
Starting point is 00:05:18 I thought you talking about like just off the liquor. Yeah, nah, like no liquor, no weed, no nothing. Yeah, nah, I ain't never do that. Okay. You feel like you can? Yeah, but yeah, nah, no weed, no nothing. Yeah, nah, I ain't never do it. Okay. You feel like you can? Yeah, but yeah, nah. Nah, I can. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Because I done did like over 200 shows, so now it's kind of like... You got it. How much you get in the show? Jesus. Jesus. Don't let him count your pockets. I was going to count a little pocket watching. It must be an increase. He said right now.
Starting point is 00:05:45 My 150. That's right. He counting your pockets right now. He counting your pockets. I know you gonna leave Uncle Lil Snump. Get out of here, man. Lil Snump, it's a holiday, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Let's go back a little bit. How did you get into rap? I know your dad's a truck driver, and they said that your brother influenced you to rap. So how did you get into rap? What made you say, you know what, I'ma get rid of all the F-boy-ish and the illegal-ish and start doing rapping? What got you to that?
Starting point is 00:06:15 Shit, I ain't never really rapped till like 2019. You know what I'm saying? I just, my homeboys, I was in jail, my homeboys said they had a studio. I'm like damn, they made a crazy move, like you know what I'm saying? I just, my homeboys, I was in jail, my homeboys said they had a studio. Like, I'm like, damn, they made a crazy move. Like, you know what I'm saying? So when I hung up the phone with them, that's when I just started writing.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I just tried some shit, for real, for real. In jail, you just started writing? Yeah. That was your first time ever even trying to rap or writing? We used to like, just in the hood freestyle, but like ever like recording a song was yeah, 2019. You was locked up during the pandemic too, right?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah, yeah. I seen, I seen, I was in there, I seen COVID, like I seen when the dude first got out the ship, whoever it was and then the shit spread, like I was watching all of that. I'm watching the numbers go up. You know what I'm saying? I'm watching my own.
Starting point is 00:07:04 My mama got it, my daddy got it. That shit, you know. We were dying for real. Did it go through the jail? I don't know. Everybody was getting sick in there. But y'all weren't testing. They weren't testing out.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Ain't nobody testing though. You know what I'm saying? Cause I went to South Florida. Like I know for a fact I got it. Cause I was in there on some like, it's no AC in here and I'm still cold. You feel me? So I know I called it, but it was like,
Starting point is 00:07:33 you can't really say nothing because then we gonna go back on two week quarantine where you have to sit in the cell, no call. No eating and that. So y'all were just sick, just like, F it, we gonna fight through this. Yeah, you sick, you gotta just wear that. Like, just go lay down, bruh.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I bet you it ran through the jail fast, though. What do they call it? I can't remember what they call it, but it's when everybody catches it. So everybody comes to the music. It was like a hot potato, like, wake up the next morning, he's sick now. Wake up the next morning, now he got it.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Wake up the next morning, he got it. It was just going like that. When I listen to your music, man, it seemed like you a big basketball fan. Yeah. Was that your dream to play ball or something? Or you just? It was.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah, yeah, it was, but damn shit. Kind of, I don't know, I was just lazy. Did you ever play when you was younger? Yeah, I played like, I played six, no. I ain't made the team sixth grade. I ain't made the team seventh grade. I made the team sixth grade. I ain't made the team seventh grade. I made the team eighth grade. I was kinda dedicated at that point,
Starting point is 00:08:29 and then Screech took over the bit, and ninth grade just slowed down, getting lazy further in the Screech, and Kick, Dot, now that shit over with, basically. And you remember the first song that took off? The first song that you was like, oh, this could really be something, and not just some hobby that we doing in the studio
Starting point is 00:08:51 It probably was uh, it's called boss man, it's it's it's like one of the first songs I made 2019 and like what it did and like just I love treasure coasts You know how to everybody turn So it was like, oh shit, you might know what you're doing for real, you feel me? Now with all the artists out at the time and all the artists looking for people, was there anybody that came to you that wanted to sign you and how come you decided not to sign
Starting point is 00:09:16 with a particular artist? In all, I had got, it was like a couple, like Gucci had tried to sign me. And it was like, you know, a little misunderstanding. I don't know, I guess I wasn't really, I guess I wasn't communicating with him. I guess it was the lawyers, you know what I'm saying? So that ain't work out.
Starting point is 00:09:41 But I think, what's, what's, what's, what's Luchi, what's but I think it's the game was trying to sign me, but that didn't work out. I ended up with Alamo, right after that. What made you go with Alamo? Why was the Alamo reason? Because it was really like, you know, I was, I'm kinda at the time I was looking at the raw wave cause he over there and then I'm sitting like,
Starting point is 00:10:11 okay, he doing good, he ain't complaining. You know what I'm saying? More of an independent route? If that man is like, they was coming correct too. And the Gucci, so the Gucci thing dissolved because of the attorneys, but you would have loved to sign the Gucci. Bro, at the time, bro, I was so deep in the streets.
Starting point is 00:10:29 It was like, it didn't even matter about the money. I know me being with Gucci going, you know what I'm saying? I know I'm gonna snap. So I was like, damn. But it just, the conversation wasn't right for it to go first. Did y' you speak after? Yeah, we were supposed to do a song.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I think he ended up dropping it before I could because I was on tour so I really couldn't really get to the studio. But yeah, we talked about it though. Was that your first time being locked up back in 2019? Yeah, we talked about it though. Was that your first time being locked up back in 2019? I mean, I done been to a little detention center and shit before that, but that was my first time. No, that was like my second or third time in jail.
Starting point is 00:11:17 That was the longest time you spent in there? That time, no, no. I was locked up, I was locked up like damn near all of 2018. And I got out early 19, I was on probation trying to rap and shit. I'm in the club, I was violating all of that. So then, I got violated in like probably like six months, seven months of like trying to rap and shit. So that's cut all that off.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And then I was gone like 20 months. That was long, it's like 20 something months. Yeah. Has the success been going a little bit too fast for you? Cause like you came up like quick, like from our point of view, you dropped your first mixtape last year, you signed your deal last year,
Starting point is 00:12:03 and then you got hit records and performed all around the world now. Yeah, I'd say probably like the success, I feel like it kinda can't come, but as far as like me grinding, I feel like nah, it's 2024. I was grinding since 2019, you know what I'm saying? I count me going to jail as part of the grind
Starting point is 00:12:25 because I went to jail for doing that shit, you know, doing this. So. For doing what? For like, you know, rapping. Like I went to jail because I violated. Oh you was in the club, oh yeah. Yeah, I was in the club.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Bruh, I ain't gonna lie, bro, I'm in the club, bruh. So you been lying the whole time? Yeah. La la la. I'm in the club, like we like performing and promoting our shit, you know what I'm saying? So I'm in the club. Like, we like performing and promoting our shit. You know what I'm saying? So I'm in the club. I'm vibing.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I'm turned. That phone go to vibrating in my pocket. I'm like, oh, shit. Pull it out. Mama. Fuck. Boys at the house. I ain't even answer that shit.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I already know what that call mean. You was on house arrest? Nah, I'm on probation. I had a curfew at 10 o'clock. Feel me? So it was probably like 12, she pulled up. So you still just party like fuck it, if I'm out, I'm out. So then if it won't vibrate again, I pull it back out.
Starting point is 00:13:19 It's a test of as, yeah, P.O. just left, you violated. I'm like, damn. Put the photo up, you violated. I like that. Put the photo up, I can fuck that. I can't party. I feel like they need to make different stipulations if that is what the profession you're chasing, right? Like if you say I'm a rapper, your work hours are different basically. I feel like they should make adjustments for that.
Starting point is 00:13:40 We up all night. Yeah, but how can they account for that? Because then somebody used that and they not really a rapper. You know what I'm saying? People can just use that. I'm really in the club. OK.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yeah. But then you, because you grinding at that point, so it might not be to the level. You can't show no show contracts and all that shit. You ain't even getting booked. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't getting booked at the time. I'm paying people to perform at the time. I wasn't supposed booked. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't getting booked at the time. I'm paying people to perform at the time.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I wasn't supposed to leave the county. I'm all out of the county. So how was the transition from the street to the industry? Because the industry is different, right? I mean, I remember when Yogati first came in and Yogati would barely talk, because he just is a transition. So how's the transition been for you? Shit, I'm barely talking too, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:26 That's what I'm saying. Nah, it's really like, it's like, I feel like, bro, once you like, you know, I ain't do it a lot of time, but you know, some people brains click earlier than, you know what I'm saying? But just for me, my love periods of time, but you know, some people's brains click earlier than that, you know what I'm saying? But just for me, my love periods of times and four times going to jail, the last time,
Starting point is 00:14:50 20-something months, actually touching the reception center prison and seeing what I seen, you know what I'm saying, and COVID going on, all that and that, like, you could, I could have literally lost my mom and daddy quick, like that, in jail. Like, that's the worst, you know what I'm saying? That shit, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I feel like, at the end, seeing the money you getting out of this, it's kind of easy for me. I don't need to prove nothing. I don't need to go to jail. I done did that, feel me? And I done been in the streets for real, for real. Anybody know, they know. So I don't need to prove,
Starting point is 00:15:24 I don't need to be trying to do no street shit to prove nothing, you know what I'm saying? I'm a business man now, I'm rapping. Yeah, I heard you say to Walu and Gilly when you did Million Loss Riffle Game that you value reactions over numbers. Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. For sure, it's like, cause I don't know,
Starting point is 00:15:44 like the numbers, you can't really tell, bruh. Num sure. It's like, cause I don't know, like the numbers, you know, you can't really tell, bruh. Numbers is all that computer shit, you know, just too much going on. You don't know. I feel like you need to be focused on how people turn it up at your shows. You need to be focused on, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:01 how many comments you getting, you know what I'm saying? How many people sharing your, whatever you posting. That's, you know what I'm saying? How many people sharing your, whatever you posting. That's, you know what I'm saying? I get it, because you say if I do 10 albums, it don't matter, but if my records is bumping in the club and I can sell out in the arena, who cares about those? Exactly, exactly. And you're still getting club money, like the show money.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Ain't nothing gonna beat that show money. That's where you know what I'm saying, most of your income really coming from. Only one thing beats the show money, like that. Ain't nothing gonna beat that show money. That's where you know what I'm saying, most of your income really coming from. Only one thing beats the show money. Yeah. That's the IRS, just make sure they, because they be watching since they made it. Oh, you know, I ain't gonna, I got them people,
Starting point is 00:16:33 I got them out of the way, I ain't gonna play with them. That's the only people don't play with them. I ain't gonna play with them. And is it true, I think somebody told me you started getting, your first show was 2,500? First show, 2,500? First show 2,500. Damn, and now you had a buck 50. And I was spinning.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Look at God. I was spinning. I probably done spent 3,000 to get to where I'm going. The first show was in Tallahassee, it was like five, six hours away. You got rental clothes, you're bare-man homeboys, hotels. You check. Yeah. Man, yo. your airmen, homeboys, hotels, huge shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Man, yeah. But that lets me know that you had a bigger play in your mind and you had a vision. Because you already was getting the money so it wasn't about the money, you just want to put yourself in a better position in life. It was, you know, like I said, I was starting off, I was paying people 500 up to 1000 to perform
Starting point is 00:17:24 for an open up for somebody. I was paying people 500,000 to perform or open up for somebody. So now me actually receiving 2,500 is like, you know what I'm saying? That's, I don't care. I ain't even need to make no money. I feel like it's gonna get big anyways. I ain't care about making money at that point.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Now you also did something that we haven't seen before. You announced your album on Sports Center. Yeah. Damn. Now who came up with that concept? What was the idea of that? It was funny when I heard you announced your album on Sports Center. Yeah. Damn. Who came up with that concept? What was the idea of that? It was funny when I heard it. D-Lo Curry.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. You know, I was talking about it like, damn man, I'm trying to get on Sports Center. You know, label made an album. Label made an album. Mm-hmm. That was all your idea? I brought it up, you know, we all talked about it.
Starting point is 00:18:03 It was all like some really some, I'm just high saying something. And it actually happened. I wanna go back to the basketball cause you do make a lot of basketball references cause that's how I know you really, really loved it. So what got you away from it? Was it just bad grades, getting cut?
Starting point is 00:18:21 Like you didn't have nobody really pushing you to do it? Like what was it? getting cut, like you didn't have nobody really pushing you to do it, like what was it? Um, yeah, it wasn't really no push to, you know, do it, but I kind of myself, like I kind of just always was watching TV, watching NBA and shit, so I kind of just always liked it, you know, certain moves, rage around around those certain shit,
Starting point is 00:18:44 so I just wanted to go outside, copy it. Know, and then I just, I wanted to play it. But then, oh, you know, streets, bro. Streets. Was you good? Yeah. Not at the streets, at basketball.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Nah, I was saying, nah, nah. That's what I was saying. You know, everybody say they get at basketball. But you said you get at basketball, we don't believe you. Nah, nah, nah, I was saying I was, nah, nah. That's fine. You know, everybody say they get a basketball. But you said you get a basketball, we don't believe you. Nah, nah, nah, I was hard. I was fine. But I just didn't, I just didn't like, I don't know. Like I just, I started smoking,
Starting point is 00:19:17 so then I started not caring about practice. You know what I'm saying? It just, you know how it squeeze. It just slowly go, like step by step. Older smoking, now you don't care about this, now you just going, now you breaking the houses, now you tripping. Damn, hold on a minute.
Starting point is 00:19:31 It don't usually go like that all the time. It don't usually go like that, but that's how mine went. I don't know why. I got you, I got you. I feel better. Damn. Now when you put out your first single,
Starting point is 00:19:41 it was a big, big single, right? Number one record. Yeah. Did you feel like, cause at one time they be like, ah, he got one record. Did you have any pressure? Be like, damn, they gonna think I'm a one hit one. I gotta come back with a second record.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Cause that one record was rocking for a long ass time. Yeah. And then I kinda, you broke through that with a couple of other records after that. But at first, was that pressure on you? Be like, I gotta make another one. I mean, I didn't really, I don't know. Cause I just like, I just, I already had,
Starting point is 00:20:07 I guess my goal was kind of a little too small of what I thought I was gonna get out of this. So when the one song did what it did, I'm like, well shit, I'ma make some more, but if I'm one way wonder, I'll be shit. I'm cool with that too. I ain't had nothing. Yeah. So, when it kept going, I'm like with that too. I didn't do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't had nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:25 So. And it kept going, I'm like, dang. And TikTok really, really blew that shit up, get in with me, you know? So do you feel like without TikTok, it wouldn't have blew as quick as it did, it wouldn't have been? Nah, nah, definitely not.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Not without TikTok. TikTok is a whole, like, TikTok catch-all song, you gone. You gone. Just TikTok itself. Yeah. Do you rap with that in mind? Like saying little catchy shit or you write differently?
Starting point is 00:20:52 Cause you know, TikTok is all about what them kids, some they just need one catchy part and then that shit'll go up. Is that how you keep in mind? Not really TikTok, but I just was always thinking that when I just started rapping. Anyway. Well, 2019, I was rapping differently.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I was rapping kind of for like what I wanted to hear and what my dawgs wanted to hear. But then I started to really understand like you can't, you gotta rap. It's a billion people out here, but you can't rap for 20 motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? That's right, that's right.
Starting point is 00:21:23 So once I figured that out, I just started like, okay, what would people wanna say? What would people be in the club wanting to say? And you know, when would they turn? They on that drink and they feeling good, you know what I'm saying? That's how I started rapping. I think it's the melody though,
Starting point is 00:21:39 cause them kids on TikTok don't know what the hell you talking about. When you say I take a seven, make it 20, and I make it 21 like 10 Duncan. Yeah, you just gotta say it though. You just gotta say it crazy. Some of them know you. You think they know what you talking about? Some of them. I don't even know what you talking about. I ain't gonna lie, bro. I know it got something to do with something.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Well, sure, you was born in 1978. You don't know. I ain't gonna lie, they have babies at my shows, bro. Like literally. What you mean babies? Like they two, three, five. They at the show. Yeah. Why? I don't know. Hick top.
Starting point is 00:22:09 She be trendy in the house. But they turn up, they know the music. Like they literally know the music. He barely can talk, he talking about Big Z. Did they charge him? I was racing how much of the baby tickets. That's a good question. That's a good question, that'll be crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:22 That sound like a charge waiting to happen. You got three and four years in the club? It's an all age event. Yeah, I saw a tweet that said, I like boss man D-Lo cause he don't talk too much about killing. He just pop his shit about being fresh and getting money. What do you think when you see posts like that?
Starting point is 00:22:40 That's what I, you know, I kinda love posts like that cause that's the whole vision from the beginning. Man, that's all, you know what I'm saying? That's kinda how it was out, like bro, we just started killing each other, bro. Like, it don't even make no sense no more. Like, to the point where it's like, it's dumb. Cause ain't nobody even getting no money.
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Starting point is 00:28:07 Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Does that scare you, bother you, worry about? Because usually when people get into trouble or they get robbed, it's usually their home team, their hometown that it usually comes from. Does that bother you? Oh, no. I don't stay in my hometown. Cause like rob and nothing but like, police don't like me, I don't like them.
Starting point is 00:28:31 You know what I'm saying? We don't have a lot of words so. What they feel like you got away? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you made it what? And you made it, yeah. So anytime I come around there, they gonna do it to me.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I'm going to jail for a damn seed, whatever. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. A rare seed. Yeah. You got a record called Finesse, and there's a line where you say I can teach Finesse and I'm about my check.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And I bring that up, because we saw Vlad TV post, well Vlad posted he accused you and manager of attempting to scam him and then he later took back the statement. What was the conversation that led to, I guess the misunderstanding between you two? That's what I'm saying, shit, I don't know. You know, it's all kinda shit going on on the internet
Starting point is 00:29:19 where somebody might be acting like they my manager and dropping a number and then people fall for it. Like you don't, you know what I'm saying? My manager is in my bio. Why does you listen to somebody tell my, you know, Tommy is a, I'm D-Lo manager. That ain't what my bio say, you know what I'm saying? So then you been sent your money,
Starting point is 00:29:41 just sending money anywhere, which you know that's not how you do business. You know what I'm saying? So. That's what he said, he sent the money to somebody claiming to be your manager. But then he did publicly apologize. Yeah, because we don't, bro I don't,
Starting point is 00:29:57 I ain't, I don't do shites to you. You just said you broke in somebody's house. I did, I used to, I did, I did, I did. But, you know, that was on some, I'm a kid, I'm just doing what I need to do, thinking about some money, you know what I'm saying? As you, you know, I got older, it's like, I don't do shiesty things to people just for my blessings,
Starting point is 00:30:20 and that's because I want you to say I'm real, because I know how I'm gonna get blessed for being real. That's because I want you to say I'm real, because I know how I'm gonna get blessed for being real. That's how I work. And you was on Clubhouse and you had said Tia Kemp was in your DMs trying to smash, but then she had said you was trying to get a full video and she said she got recieved.
Starting point is 00:30:42 What video was that? I don't even know nothing. I never knew nothing about no clubhouse. I never been on that app. Okay. That's why I don't. Yeah. Never, never been on clubhouse.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Never. You answered that like, I don't know what you talking about, Ms. Officer. I don't know. I felt like I was interrogating a woman. No, you're not. It ain't even. Cause I heard that but I never, I was like, no, no, it ain't even. Because I heard that, but I never, I was like, I don't even have a clubhouse.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I don't know what the fuck. I don't do all that gossip. I barely be on, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. They be telling me I need to go live and shit. You know what I'm saying? Do you know her though? You know Tia, Kemp?
Starting point is 00:31:19 Huh? You know Tia? Yeah, I know her. Oh, okay. Y'all ain't never had no words? You said we ain't never had no words? You have no words or whatever, like, back and forth, he was trying to smash, I know her. Oh, okay. Y'all ain't never had no words? You said we ain't never had no words? You have no words or whatever? Like back and forth, he was trying to smash
Starting point is 00:31:27 and that was the school? Hell no. No, oh, okay. Hell no. Okay. Hell no. She licked them teeth, that shit be over, don't it? She know.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Ain't never get you? Like that? Yeah, dog. All right, y'all. You know how I'm talking. We ain't never, we ain't never try. I don't know her like that, man. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:44 We ain't never, I don't know what she got going on. Got you, I feel you. That shit, yeah baby. Man, Florida niggas is the funniest niggas on the planet, man. You know how I say the craziest people in America come from Florida, right? The Bronx and all of Florida.
Starting point is 00:31:58 You thinking something to that? I don't know, Florida got there on water, man. Yeah. Real. That's why when I'm going to all these different states and it's cold and shit like this, I ain't used to this shit. I'm used to 80, 90 degrees.
Starting point is 00:32:14 That's right. We going at 18 and shit. I can't deal with it. That's why I can't live nowhere else. So you just came here for this, you getting right back on the plane. I'm going. Going back, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I'm sick of that. Who the, who the? They just told me it's 47 in Florida. 47? Little chilly for Florida. Oh, not dog. What artists giving you advice? Like who do you, you know, reach out to
Starting point is 00:32:35 when you trying to figure this game up? I kind of, I kind of, you know, Rod Wave, he'd definitely be chopping it up with me. Soudra Raza, for sure. Plas, you know, I don't talk to a couple. I just take, you know, what everybody say and I just run with it and I put my sauce on it. Because you always gotta do what your brain.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You can listen to other people, but you gotta do what your brain. That's how I move. I saw a video that I think could be a valuable lesson to a lot of young brothers, man. Especially brothers coming up making money. It said, it showed you allegedly getting your money in jewelry stolen by a woman while you were asleep.
Starting point is 00:33:25 How's that experience influenced the way you move now? Man, my album dropped December 13th, man. My album dropped the night, man. You know, that's right. It's a great answer. Great answer. For sure. Does your success mean even more to you
Starting point is 00:33:45 knowing that you self-invested? Shit, like, it's definitely a way better reward, you feel me? Cause like, knowing you grinded for it, you did it, but you know by yourself, you know what I'm saying? And you know, now you had a little help from your home boys, you know what I'm saying? And you know, now you had a little help from your home boys, you know what I'm saying? So they still with me.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And just knowing that that hard work, like I said, I've been grinding like five years. So, but it's kinda, you know, people ain't gonna see that whole grind from that, so. I think the number I saw, they said that you and your team put up 100 racks independently before any label got involved. Yeah, I have spent, so. I think the number I saw, they said that you and your team put up 100 racks independently before any label got involved. Yeah, I have spent, yeah. I spent about 100 racks, for sure.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Before you could, before we seen you any type of money. And what does that go towards? Like, just for people wanting to come up, trying to figure things out, like where does that money go? It's, uh, just, it might not be, you know, it might not be as hard for some other people, but you know me, I had to travel an hour and a half to go to the studio, you know, I'm driving cars that, at the time, you know what I'm saying? I might have a rental sometime, so I might be straight, but I had bought a BMW X4.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And it was like, you know, I was road running, and so you know, at a certain point, cars had them problems. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, I'm going an hour and a half, two hours to the studio, anything. I was a tired today, the half, two hours to the studio, anything, I'm tired today, the motherfucking fuel pump tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:35:29 the alternator the next day. So you gotta deal with the car, the gas, going back and forth, the studio time, mixing, mastering. The look at the club, go to the club, videos. mastering, you know. The look at the club, go to the club, videos. Behind the mic performances, clubs, promoting, pushing. You know, paying nine, five, four. You know, the blog pages, Posture Music. Say cheese, they want a thousand.
Starting point is 00:36:04 What about DJs? call some of them out. Some of them DJs you have to pay. Most DJs, they gonna spin you for free. They gonna spin you. They show love. That's why they show love to me, I show love. That's how it kinda went. What do you say to people who tell you
Starting point is 00:36:20 that you need to switch up your flow? That's why you say one time, motherfuckers want you to sound like Kendrick Lamar. Yeah, they want me to sound like Kendrick Lamar. Yeah, yeah, they want me to sound like they want me to be lyrical and shit. You know what I'm saying? Man, I ain't finna do all that thinking, man. We trying to turn up, man.
Starting point is 00:36:33 God damn, get high and turn up. Do you like Kendrick? You listen to Kendrick? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That just ain't the shit you trying to be on. Nah, I just can't. That's why we got niggas in the car already.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah, I just can't. You already got Kendrick Lamar, you know what I'm saying? That's mad, lyrical Florida rappers though. Trick Daddy, historically lyrical, Rick Ross, Kodak. It's my god. Yeah, you don't think so? I mean, like, some boys real artists, I just don't call that lyrical. Lyrical, yeah, you don't gotta think too I mean like some boys real artists. I just don't call that
Starting point is 00:37:06 Thank you, they got yeah, but it ain't like you really thinking like how little Wayne had you No, I'm guys can rap them guys. I just mean that's lyrical. That's what I think like little Wayne Kendrick like them. That's lyrical You know, they call that lyrical But not to assert you I'm saying that he's saying they got lyrics but. They lyrical, but not to a certain, you know what I'm saying? Not. He's saying they got lyrics, but they got lyrical. Yeah, they have lyrical. But not just have the content that they put together. I feel like lyrical is where you literally,
Starting point is 00:37:30 like every bar you, you know what I'm saying? Like how they? You gotta think about it, you can dissect it, it can mean, yeah. I saw another photo, they say it was of you, they say you was in church with your family, and the internet was calling you a preacher's kid, and I'm like, what's wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:37:45 Like what's wrong with you, so what? My dad, he became a preacher when I was like, probably like 14, 15, like I'm in the streets by then. I mean, he was how he was. He changed his life, shit, I don't know. He appreciate it, what the fuck? What y'all want him to be, a killer? Like, I don't wanna listen to that shit, bruh.
Starting point is 00:38:13 That's the internet. They don't write me, they hate I keep going. I'm having a chicken. It probably, you never know, your daddy Prez might be the reason you in the position you in right now. You feel me? That's why we getting all these blessings. We getting more chicken.
Starting point is 00:38:26 It's simple. They talking, I'm getting chicken. Let's get into something off the album. What you wanna hear off the album? The album is out today. What you wanna get into? I been dropping tonight. Hopefully, turn up.
Starting point is 00:38:38 It's tomorrow, so it's out now. Oh, tomorrow? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, I see what you're saying. Album's out now. Yeah, album out. So what you, I'll see you the same. Album's out now. Yeah, album out. So what you wanna hear? We rollin' loud.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Sunday we at club, we finna do a goddamn mix. Okay, that's your first time I live as a performer? That's your first time performing at live? Oh yeah, yeah. Now I know you're rollin' loud this week, and my son's actually, he's out in Miami, so he's excited to see you this weekend. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:05 So what you wanna hear off the album? What song you wanna get into? I like that 46th Street. 46th Street? Mm-hmm. Okay. We should do Shake That Ass remix too. Oh, you wanna hear that glow with glow on it?
Starting point is 00:39:15 Yeah, with glow really. She snapped, she snapped. Too hard. That's not baby right now. Y'all got a few records together, right? Yeah, we got Finesse, Step. Okay. Remix, Shake That Ass.
Starting point is 00:39:27 How'd y'all connect? You know, I think the first song we did, she just, you know, we just hit, you know, you hard, you hard, and then that shit just, you know, let's do one. Y'all recorded together? Nah, we weren't together. It was sent, we sent it through. Okay, okay. Y'all met each other before though? Yeah, we weren't together. It was sent, we sent it through. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Y'all met each other before though? Yeah, we met each other at shows like two, three times. I'm a dog. You be extra fresh when she come around, don't you? Man, I be fresh all the time. I be fresh all the time. Why you blushing, bro? I'm a dog though.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Why you blushing though? I'm a dog, I fuck with her. I fuck with her ass. It's a show. And we gonna get a visual for Shake That Ass, Turk Song and the remix? We gonna get a visual for that? Oh, we playing on song in the remix, we gon' get a visual for that. We playin' on that, I don't know though.
Starting point is 00:40:09 That song so old, bro. But it's still ringin'. Yeah, like. It do good, we'll shoot a video. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, got to see it. That's the only thing that you probably gotta, you know, stay focused on is the ladies, cause it's a lot of,
Starting point is 00:40:25 they see you getting all of this money. You out every night, and I know they on you heavy. That's probably your biggest distraction right now. You know? Nah. Nah. Nah. No. He started blushing when he bought up Glorilla though.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Nah. Yeah, he did. When you getting up for Christmas? You say when I'm getting up? When you getting up for Christmas? You said what I'm getting? You getting glow for Christmas? You know on that step, she said she want a C8. Okay. Nah, just boy shit.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I'm fucking glowed up. This thing remind me of bruh man from the fifth floor. You know what I'm talking about. It's so funny though. Boss man D-Lo man, D-Lo Curry out now. That's right. Al was out today. Pick it up.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Hey, we appreciate you for joining us, brother. I appreciate you, man. It's Boss Man D-Lo. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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