The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Bubba Wallace On Responsibility As A Black NASCAR Driver, Robinhood, Scrapping On The Track + More

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Bubba Wallace On Responsibility As A Black NASCAR Driver, Robinhood, Scrapping On The Track. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051F...MSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 podcasts. Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. We have Bubba Wallace and Steve Quirk.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Welcome fellas. What's going on? How you feeling? How you feeling? Another day. Man, Bubba, how does it feel? And I know you get this all the time, but how does it feel being the first black NASCAR driver?
Starting point is 00:02:27 Well, I wouldn't say the first, the first in a while. Okay, oh, you weren't the first? No, when Scott was the, he opened the door for all of us. And so I've been the first to win since him. Gotcha. Yeah. How long ago was him? I was in the 60s. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Right? So it's been a really cool journey. Lots of ups and downs. Being in the Cup series for 8 years now has been... I've learned a lot, I've grown a lot, I've got a couple of grey hairs in my beard. I guess every year that I've been in that, I'd say every race, I've been in the Cup series. But it's humbling. Knowing that there's not many of us there, but I'm leading the way for a generation
Starting point is 00:03:12 that is paying attention. You have a following and a demographic that wants to be a part of this sport. It's cool to be at the front of that. How did you get into race car driving? Started when I was a kid in go-karts. My dad had a go-kart and he raced a couple times. He flipped all three times.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I have yet to flip in my career. Okay. All right. Yeah, knock on wood. But my dad got us started and he invited us to come out. He told us to come out and watch a family friend of ours and just sitting in the stands. Became a fan that way, bought a go-kart and went racing. Where did the name Bubba come from?
Starting point is 00:03:43 My sister. Yes. We don't know why. She won't. She said she didn't have a speech impediment. I bought a go-kart and went racing. Where'd the name Bubba come from? My sister. Yes, we don't know why. She said she didn't have a speech impediment. She just decided to call me Bubba, so she's five years older than me. I see five years older. And it's stuck ever since.
Starting point is 00:03:55 It's stuck. I can see. Well, it was confusing at the racetrack, right? Because I'm a junior, so hey, Darryl, my dad would turn around, and they were trying to get in touch with me. So we were just like, let's go with Bubba. It makes it easier.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And it's fun. Everybody's a Bubba. Yeah, especially now. I say that a lot. Yeah. What's up, Bubba? What's up, Bubba? So you embrace the responsibility of being, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:17 are you the only black male car driver? At the cup level, yes, sir. So you embrace the responsibility of being that person at the forefront to inspire the next generation. Yeah, yeah. We got some youth coming up. We got Raja Kharuth coming up through in the truck series. And it's fun being a mentor to him and the others coming through.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And yeah, I sense a responsibility there to carry myself the right way, but also show that I'm here to stay and make a name for myself as well. So the only way to create boundaries is to cross them and figure out what to do, what not to do. So I've made some mistakes along the way, but it's shaped me and helped me to become who I am today. And so off track, on track stuff has been phenomenal. I can say this whole year has started out
Starting point is 00:05:04 really, really strong for us. And nothing's better than winning. So it's been a while since I've been in Victory Lane, but it's not from a lack of effort. How difficult, I'm sorry, guy. What part of North Carolina are you from? Charlotte. Charlotte, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Seven-O-Fo. Seven-O-Fo. That was big, growing up. We're in a hub. Race car was, okay. Yeah, so like I grew up 15 minutes from the racetrack. So all the race teams were all within a 30 minute radius of each other.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I was gonna ask how difficult was it? Cause coming up there wasn't too many of us in the stands. I'm sure there's not too many of us in the stands now, but there was way less in the stands. So how difficult was that? I'm sure you had to face racism, other drivers, other teams and how difficult was fighting through that? Honestly, my mom was, my parents, both my parents,
Starting point is 00:05:42 but my mom was the driving force behind of just never giving the media any negative to talk about, right? Well, I failed at that a couple times. But she was always just keeping me aware of said scenarios, right? And for me though, I grew up in a well diverse community and didn't see color, still don't,
Starting point is 00:06:06 and it just didn't matter to me. So when I jumped into it, there was, I think, two of us that were of color, and Beny Mingo, he actually works at our race shop now. So it's crazy how he works on race cars. But it was just the two of us, and didn't bother me one bit. You know, growing up, the higher you got in the rankings,
Starting point is 00:06:26 the better you got, the faster the cars. You know, I was the only one and still didn't bother me. All I cared about was winning, and it sounds like a very just cliche, typical straight line answer, but I didn't give a damn, right? And I still don't because at the end of the day, we're all human beings, and that's how I view each other. And we just happen to be a little bit darker than others.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And that's okay, but if you treat each other with respect, then you demand that respect back. And if they can't give that back, then they're not the people for you. So that's how I've kind of viewed life and have enjoyed life, no matter what's thrown at us. I agree with that, you know, but you being a bi-racial, right?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Whenever you feel, when people come at you for being black, do you ever feel like, well, I'm white too. Half way there. Yeah, I mean, you have to kind of balance both hats really. You know, I have a black side of my family, I have a white side of my family, and so. Whose food is better? Ha ha ha!
Starting point is 00:07:21 That's a good question. And where do you go for Thanksgiving? That's a good, I like to stay home now. I ain't gotta do nothing. Damn, you put me on the spot. I don't think it's that difficult. You know, you know the side of you. I'm gonna have to go with my sister.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I'm gonna have to go with my sister, the black side of family. That's good, that's good. Yeah, she named you Bubba. Yeah, our food is definitely good. No, I think just you know Trying to just walk both paths can can be tiring at sometimes because I just want to walk down the middle But it's just never that easy sometimes so now before we get to you're dealing with Steve I want to ask how many people come up to you and try to race you in the street when you ever drive
Starting point is 00:07:58 Does that happen a lot? No because I have ten on my windows, so you can't see who's okay Yeah, and do you ever get crazy on the street? Sometimes you just like no, no, I don't waste time though So if we got to drive to the grocery store I'll I know how to get to the grocery store But I'll plug in a GPS see which way is the fastest way and to see if I can get there faster You know got a speed ticket. Of course really Actually, it's been a long long time and I can say I've I've been I've been pulled long, long time. And I can say I've been pulled over 20-something times
Starting point is 00:08:29 and only gotten like three tickets. It's nice. That's because you played the white side. Ah! Ah! That's right. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I thought it was because they recognize you. That's what I was going with. But she got to it first. That's what I was going with. Now you hit with Steve Quirk with Robin Hood. So what got to it first. That's what I was going with. Now, you hit with Steve Quirk with Robin Hood. So what's your relationship with Robin Hood? It's just starting out. So excited for the partnership that we just announced. To be a part of 2311 and sponsoring myself and Corey Hyman and a couple cup races this year.
Starting point is 00:08:58 So hats off to everybody at AirSpeed on the marketing side of things to bring in new sponsors to the sport. So this will be the first time that Robin Hood is a part of our sport in this sort of capacity and it's special. So it's fast paced, so I hope they can keep up. Yeah, it's our first national sponsorship of sports. We have a couple NBA teams that we sponsor. For people that don't know what Robin Hood is and what they do.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, yeah. Let me quickly explain. So Robinhood Basic, we have about 25 million customers and Robinhood is an investing app. And what we've been largely credited with is bringing 25 million young, very diverse, first time investors into the marketplace. So in the US, we're sitting close to 60% of US households now are invested in the market. That's that's the envy of the world. It's like 20% in Asia or Europe or other places. And what we did is just remove the friction. So if you have $5, if you have $10, you can invest. We removed all all the friction made it very easy for people to have access to
Starting point is 00:10:09 The greatest wealth creation vehicle in the world so as important as it is for you to make money you have to put that money to work and We've made that really accessible for for young people. Yeah, my kids have Robin Hood and it's very accessible They yeah how to use it. They invest in it. They're not investing a lot of money, but $5, $10, it's a start for them at a young age. That's what I'm telling them.
Starting point is 00:10:32 But the whole system used to be really kind of inaccessible for young people because you had to wait until you got this amount of money to be able to do it. And so really by the time you got around to investing, it was a little bit too late. The second component that we're really, really strongly focused on is it's one thing to give them access, but it's another thing to make sure that they do it in a way that's going to be sustainable and that they're going to have a good investing career. So we do a lot in the way of education, both within our site and the app, but also we go out to universities. We have a bunch of university programs where we help people
Starting point is 00:11:08 understand the importance of doing this in a suitable manner and then we give them access to all of this and provide them with curriculum and then we have a newsletter that goes out every morning to we have 40 million people subscribed basically describes the day's news and then if there's something within that news that could be an investable opportunity for them. What's your vetting process, Bubba, when it comes to who you choose to take on as a sponsor? It's just the money. If you're willing to pay, let's go.
Starting point is 00:11:39 That's what happens. I mean, I come from, I remember, man, we were doing about anything just to get anybody to spend a buck right and so it's it's it's a tough sport to be a part of it and want to invest into and for new companies to come into the sport and not know which way is up down left or right I mean I would be hesitant as well and so and taking a risk on a kid that's trying to find his way throughout the cup series but I feel like now we've established ourselves established our name you know within the race team within the sport it makes it easier for for companies that want to be in part of our journey and yeah you got
Starting point is 00:12:15 you're associated with MJ so how is that MJ is a co-owner so how is he as a co-owner do you speak much do you talk much do you play one-on-one basketball how is it not the basketball piece. He taught me if I know I'm gonna go into something and lose, then I don't compete at all. So he won't jump into a race car. I won't jump on the basketball court. Gotcha. And so MJ is super involved.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And it might be a shock to a lot of people. And I think it was for me to start because you think of somebody as big as MJ that can be doing anything else that he wants with his time and his money. He has a strong passion for NASCAR. He's been a fan, he's watched even before he became a team owner. He was a kid going to the races, Darlington, Talladega, Charlotte. He was going all these places with his family growing up and so he's always had a strong knack for NASCAR and what it provides. And so now him being invested, it's game over.
Starting point is 00:13:08 He's watching each and every weekend, whether he's here or overseas, whatever he's doing. I have a text before and after the race every weekend. What did he say? I lost some money betting on you. No, it's always encouraging. He's a glass half full guy. No matter how rough the day gets,
Starting point is 00:13:23 he's always searching for the positives. And so it's helped me grow up a lot in a short amount of time. What about you, Steve? What made y'all wanna say, you know what, NASCAR is where we wanna spend our money? Well, if we look at our customers, they're very into sports,
Starting point is 00:13:36 but if we just look at a Robin Hood versus a non-Robin Hood customer, they're four times more likely. They're into motor sports, particularly NASCAR. And so this gives us broad exposure nationally as well, which I think is very positive. And they just, they're as passionate about their sports as they are about their investing.
Starting point is 00:13:54 So they tie together pretty nicely. Gotcha. Was it hard for you to get sponsorships, Bubba? Because you always hear the stories about Serena Williams, even though she was dominant in tennis for a period of time. Her and Venus, it was hard for them to get sponsorships. People just didn't feel like they were marketable. Was it the same for you?
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah, absolutely. We look at the sport and the personalities that you have with the inside of our sport, and there's a select few. And I feel like I'm near the top of the list of just being person personable and and likeable despite all the BS that goes on. Um you know I'm I'm gonna tell you how I feel and I feel like a lot of us inside of our sport are very straight edged and cookie cutter right and that's
Starting point is 00:14:36 that's okay you don't want to show your true colors and show your cards you keep that in your personal life that's fine. Um but for me I've always just been trying to be super relatable to everybody I meet and make a lasting impression to eventually have the investments come in and the funding come in. And it seemed like nothing we ever did would work. And for whatever reason that is, it was what it was, but it never stopped me from pursuing what I wanted to do and fighting hard. Now I look at the people that potentially said, no, we're good and just laugh because we're in a good spot now. What does the sport have to do to increase?
Starting point is 00:15:11 Because I feel like it's been in that same spot for a long time and it hasn't really grown as I thought it would. What do you think it needs to do? I need to win. There you go. I think that's the easiest way to go about it. I need to win. You look at, I mean golf didn't really change too too much.
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Starting point is 00:19:37 So the way that we've been performing this year, last two races, finishing third, two spots away from doing just that so uh i'll take full responsibility and helping that whose fault is it though is it the car because is it the car to drive the engine as a driver you never blame yourself so it's always somebody else's fault so that's just how drivers operate but uh it takes uh it takes a whole team to win races and man it's tough you're the next level after cup level is retirement. So it's the hardest thing that you'll ever do in forms of motorsports in the form of the path
Starting point is 00:20:10 that we're on and so the guys you're going against have been doing it. Denny, he won the second quarter, our other boss, he won Sunday but he's been in the sport for 20 years and so my eighth year so it's just experience takes over. But it takes a car, it takes a crew chief, it takes the driver, it takes pit crew, and just a lot of luck to get these things in the right way.
Starting point is 00:20:34 This could be a stupid question, I don't know. How do you know that certain people on the team might not be sabotaging you though? Just because for, you know, they might be mad that you have the Confederate flag on it. Yeah, we have a good process in knowing, like basically feeding out the bullshit, right? And you know, you have to show up and ready to work.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And as simple as, I think you look at who the owners are, MJ and Denny, they care about winning and they care about doing it with integrity. And if you don't have that, then it's game over for them. So we don't have to worry about that. And I never really have. Who's the toughest driver you ever faced and why? And NASCAR, is it like that?
Starting point is 00:21:15 Like, you know, as a basketball, you can say, this is the toughest opponent. In hockey, this is the toughest. Baseball, this is the toughest team. It's different. It's different in regards of the tracks that we go to. You know, for example, Denny had won this weekend and this is at Martinsville which is one of his best tracks and so when you show up to said track it's like who's the guy to beat. That's how you look at it. So it's
Starting point is 00:21:41 always different throughout the throughout the circuit and throughout the year. So I can't pinpoint it to one, who's the biggest asshole? Ooh, that also changes too. Depends on the mood that we're in. What's your favorite track? Favorite track? Martin Zill's one of them. So Bristol's coming up here in two weeks.
Starting point is 00:22:00 That's another good one. Mostly all the short tracks, but also the ones we've won out too. So Talladega and Kansas are good. Y'all get scrapping sometimes. Y'all fight on that on those tracks sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, you feel like you're done wrong because I go back to the respect thing. You show up with respect, you man respect and return, and sometimes you feel like you're shorted or you're done wrong and for whatever reason, you know, when I'm done wrong and I retaliate, it's the world's end. And all
Starting point is 00:22:31 I'm doing, and when I was growing up, you know, being taught is you just get even. So I'm just getting even. Like, oh okay, we're good. We can shake hands after the fact. We're good now, but massive deal. Y'all get suspended after y'all get into a fight? Cause I remember you got into a fight a couple of years ago. Did you get suspended? Is there any penalties or anything? No, well the rules are constantly changing. I got suspended for right rear hooking somebody,
Starting point is 00:22:57 which basically got pit maneuver. And rightly so because it's happened to me twice throughout my career and Explain what that is. I'm lost like a pit maneuver like like somebody turns into you on your right rear spin jab okay, and like it's a it's a The the Opposing car that you've done it to is you just turn them right head on into the wall Yeah, kind of and so you've done it too is you just turn them right head on into the wall and at a high rate of speed.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, kinda. And so versus like hook them in in the left rear, like they kind of just go spinning throughout the infield and kind of get it gathered back up. So it's happened to me twice in my career and it's the most, I'd say one of the most disrespectful things you can do and I found myself stooped down to that level and Commit the same deal But the guy had just come up to me and run me up in the wall and it was like oh We're just gonna go on about our day. No, no, no, no, they said that you did it on purpose. That's what they say. So People are gonna always talk and have their opinions and that it is what it is But I regret doing that I can say thatfully, and we've moved on past that.
Starting point is 00:24:08 But as far as fighting, no, because one, we're an entertainment business and so it's good for entertainment, but you're quick to jump in. So you have to be methodical about how you wanna go about it. Isn't it a matter of life and death when you're out there at a hundred plus miles per hour? It is, our safety's come a long way.
Starting point is 00:24:27 So you don't think of it in that sort of fashion. But you know, all it takes is one wrong move. Do you wanna race Denny Hamlin? Do I want to? Do you want to? Yeah. Okay, cause he was asked about you. He asked what you need to do to beat him
Starting point is 00:24:42 and win your first race in nearly two years. And he said, you have a decision to make. If you need to make to beat him and win your first race in nearly two years and he said you have a decision to make if you need to make more speed on corner exit you must sacrifice something else somewhere you can't just put the throttle down and get more speed on exit it's an approach thing maybe you need to slow up your center a little bit more do you agree with him? Yeah do you know what that means? No. No. That's why you're here. I was
Starting point is 00:25:07 impressed. I was impressed. I don't need that. She was holding. She was holding Denny. That's all. We made him right there. Words for a word. Now, now you have to explain that's what that means. I got to explain. So, that's just
Starting point is 00:25:17 attacking the corners. So, the exit, exit of the corner versus the center of the corner versus the entry of the corner. There's there's ways to approach every corner differently and you know And it goes back to the experience, Denny's been at these racetracks for 20 years, as to where I'm figuring it out still.
Starting point is 00:25:30 So he kinda has a better feeling for what to expect on entry and center to set him up for a better exit as to where I'm just like, I'm gonna send it off in there and figure it out. So it definitely takes a lot of time and a lot of seat time, a lot of just skill and management and having the right people around you. Cool, for you Bubba, and I wanna ask Steve this too,
Starting point is 00:25:47 what do you consider the most rewarding aspect of the work in the racing world, especially if you're not winning? And for you Steve, what's the benefit other than visibility if Bubba's not winning? Yeah, I would say the last three years, I've really taken it upon myself of trying different things but putting in the work and putting in the effort and it seemed like
Starting point is 00:26:11 the last two years the previous two years it didn't matter what I did it kind of ended up in the same results and so this year I kind of didn't flip the script I said we're gonna start working out better, start eating better, doing all the necessary things, paying attention to my sleep, all these types of things. And the results are starting to show up quicker. And so the rewarding thing is knowing that you can pour your heart and soul into something.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And when it doesn't work out the way you want it, then a lot of self-doubt't work out the way you want it, then a lot of self-doubt creeps in, because you take it, for me, I take it on my shoulders, like, well damn, I guess I'm not good enough. But then you see others that are doing half the job, but getting it done, and so it's like, well damn, what's the scenario I need to put myself in?
Starting point is 00:27:01 Well, I think it comes down to just trusting the process. And I've realized that, and I've said this recently a lot, that your timeline is gonna be either quicker or slower than mine, and that's okay, that's how we're built. We have to appreciate the scenario that we're in for ourselves and work on self and continuing to do that because at the end of the day, that's all you got.
Starting point is 00:27:20 When you get into those- What about you, Steve? What's the benefit of, what's the rewarding aspect of the work that Bubba's doing in the racing world if he's not winning for Robin Hood? I would say, well, it starts really with think about Robin Hood and the mission and what we're all aligned on,
Starting point is 00:27:36 which is helping a younger, more diverse group of people have access to financial services and what that creates. And that's why we're very aligned with 2311. And of course, I can say this, because I'm a little older, this is a very impressive young man here. I mean, extremely impressive. And we're completely aligned in seeing success, not only from 2311, but of course from Bubba.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I was gonna ask, when you get into those car wrecks, you get a call from MJ and he's not like, Bubba, another car? How much of those cars cost you a place? And do you fix those cars or do you just totally get a new car? It's circumstantial. If you cause the wreck and it becomes a repeated offense,
Starting point is 00:28:21 then it's like, all right, what are we doing? But a lot of the wrecks that I've been a part of, like I can truthfully say, it hasn't been my fault. Like we're just caught up in somebody else's mess. But at the end of the day, you do find yourself, if you do find yourself in somebody else's mess constantly, then it starts to deter back to you, because it's like, quit putting yourself in that scenario.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Well, it's easy to blame, like, well again, it wasn't my fault, it doesn't matter, like, run better, run closer up front, or try a different type, better center for a better exit. The corners. The corners, right, you know? So, it all comes back to self at the end of the day, and how you can do, what you can do to be better, to not put yourself in said scenarios, but yeah yeah it can get annoying sometimes but at least not
Starting point is 00:29:08 for me because I'm not paying the bill. How much are those cars to replace? Ballpark? I don't know what we're up to five hundred? Six hundred thousand per car. And how many cars do you have in the store just in case? We're only allowed I think like seven to eight on rotation. How many have you wrecked? This year, like two. This year? I'm counting questions. I've got to get it right.
Starting point is 00:29:32 I've got to get it right for 22 years. Yeah, that's a necessary expense, I would think, right? It's a lot. That's why you want to have good partners to foot the bill. So thanks, Robin Hood. Yeah, thanks, Robin Hood. You know, I wanted to ask, you played a big role in getting the Confederate flag banned from NASCAR.
Starting point is 00:29:47 How did other drivers who didn't want it banned treat you after it was banned? I necessarily can't say that they didn't want it banned, so I didn't really know their viewpoint on it, but I think we all came together as one, as in unison, and I think that's all you could ask for in sports. But for the ones that necessarily didn't want to band, they've never come forward or shown their displeasure. So I can honestly say the sports has been way better without it.
Starting point is 00:30:12 So hold on, how do you know they haven't shown their displeasure? Because there was a news found in your garage back in 2020, was that before or after? Oh my God. Well, that's, it's all, I think we're all human enough to, out of the driver's world, if you have a problem with it,
Starting point is 00:30:27 you just kind of keep it to yourself and move on. And I'm not treated differently, or I just don't speak to said drivers, but I haven't had any instances where the drivers have come at me for removing the Confederate flag. It's been, everybody's been in support of it, and we've moved on, so it is what it is. Did it ever get to the bottom of the new thing
Starting point is 00:30:46 and find out who did it or no? Yeah, it was there before we got there, years before we got there. And it's just coincidence that I had that garage. Damn. Like it's wild. They knew you was coming. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Wow. Wow. Wow. So, you know, it is still a topic of discussion to this day. It's wild. You should see my Twitter mentions. Like, Bubba finished third. Oh, is there a noose?
Starting point is 00:31:12 You know, it's wild that that is still going about it. But no, it was there before we even got there. And just the one in a million, a quadrillion coincidences that I had that garage stall. And in fact, it was tied in a fashion like that. It could have been this small, it doesn't matter. And so it is what it is, and we've moved on from it. And it sucks that the sport was put in that situation, that I was put in that situation,
Starting point is 00:31:40 our team was put in that situation. But we've learned a lot about who we are as a sport and who we are as competitors and that's all you can ask for. Did it take a toll on you emotionally? Oh, those, those year or two after that was rough, you know, because, you know, I went from being one of the most, I wouldn't say the most like drivers, but favorable drivers, you know, but now it's, it's just been the boos and stuff. And that's okay, because it's sports.
Starting point is 00:32:08 And I'm a big, you know, I love going to college football games, Tennessee, and college basketball games, and I'm not a person that boos other teams, because I'm kind of in the sports world myself, and it just kind of seems childish, but fans do what they want. So booing is a part of sports in general. But it was you know the next week after Talladega it was like a light switch and it was like whoa wow you know like holy shit I didn't ask for this and so now it's they're making noise you know I've always been told and I've read things is when
Starting point is 00:32:43 they stop making noise is when it's worse So yeah, you still get do you get scared when you get in that car your fear fear at all no no fear I'd be free. I'd be afraid for you. I appreciate that you drive fast on the roads Hell no afraid for you. I'm not anymore when I was younger I was one of them stupid kids that was right in and out of traffic I think we all were at one time right and so you know you climb in and just do it and that's that for us if You have to fear that is that is seconds that you're that you're giving up And I mean we're talking about fighting for thousands of an inch giving up seconds for just being scared can't have it
Starting point is 00:33:19 I hate people who speed whenever I get a call somebody who speed I was like are you in a rush to die? It is it is a job. I understand. Yeah. But on the roads, it's different because you know, people's lives are at stake and the safety and I've always said, uh, you know, I don't speed on the roads because the safety of my race car is way higher than, than a street car. Right. I have a nine, 12 point harness, whatever it is. And we got one seatbelt in a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car,
Starting point is 00:33:52 I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna be a car, I'm gonna was a stupid kid. Now he's a stupid adult. Exactly. That's fine. Yo, Guadala, you saw a son be, I got it one time. Everybody needs to be humbled.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Why do you encourage people to do the dumbest things? Everybody needs to be humbled. So that's fine, you can take that. You can take that. And Steve, shout out to Robin Hood. Y'all made investments for financial literacy programs at Howard, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Are y'all gonna do that at other HBCs too? TCU, yeah, we're 12 universities and expanding. Yeah, that's dope. Wow. All across the country. Very cool. Why is that important for Robin Hood? I think it's important because you want to make sure that people at the at a very young age start to understand how to do it responsibly and suitably the younger that I mean Everything shows that if you know, they're just the power of compounding alone. You started young age You know, you're gonna you're gonna benefit at an older age
Starting point is 00:34:44 I'm one of those annoying fathers who has three 20-some-year-old daughters and I pound on them. You gotta put that money to work, put that money to work, be invested in that. And I said, one day you'll thank me. We appreciate you guys for joining us. Thank you so much. Good luck with everything, Bubba and Steve. Appreciate you for joining us. It's the Breakfast Club. It's Bubba Wallace and Steve Quirk. Thank you guys. Thank you.
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