The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Cam'ron Talks Petty Moments, Pink Horse Power, Paid In Full, Peace Of Mind + More

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Cam'ron Talks Petty Moments, Pink Horse Power, Paid In Full, Peace Of Mind. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Long LaRose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. One of the most hustling motherfuckers I've met in my life. Ladies and gentlemen, Kill up. Cameron is here. It's good, man. How y'all been? Good morning. Good morning. How you're doing? How you feeling, man?

Regular, man. Good to be back. I ain't been up here in a little minute. Before we go in a way, I just got to ask one question. Yeah. Are you going to do another project, man? Because you play too much. You rap and then you stop, then you spit, then you stop.

Then somebody pisses you off and you rap. I'm like, Killer still got it. Just do a project, Killer. Like, for what? Because you're nice. You're good at it. Nah, of course, you know you're my brother. I appreciate that, but it don't be making financial sense.

Like, if I'm going to do a project, you're going to get merchandise. behind it, it's gonna be a tour behind it, everything else, but you know, I do the freestyles on my show and here and there, but as far as doing an actual project, and don't be making financial sense for me. Like, you see niggas be rapping my age, it's only a few niggas who could really go on tour,

who's my age. Niggas be just thinking in their brain, they're doing a lot, but they're not really doing what they think they're doing. Because when you like, for me, I was on tour up until 2021 COVID hit I was on tour. I just didn't go back on tour after that.

But every tour I had something lined up, not just the show. It was shit behind it, you know what I'm saying? Can we curse? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was shit behind it, but I'll keep the free stuff. As far as doing the album, my album's the last thing.

Like, a great album is like two weeks. You know what I'm saying? Like that shit, I'm talking about a great one last two, three weeks. That shit's don't last. But even like an EP, just you and Mace and killing murder just because, now, look, look, me and Mace got some,

now I would do that. Me and Mace got like 19 records. Wow. But I can't put them out. Like, I feel like my hands is tied with this nigger. He'll get in the mood, and he'd be like, we're going to come out. Then he'd be like, nah, just wait, and it don't come out. I can play it for y'all with nobody listening.

Like, the world ain't listening. But Mace is really, really nice. What's his invitation? I don't know. I can't tell you. Like, he gets in the mood and we're going to do shit, and then he'd be like, we're not going to do shit. And what we got going on now is too.

good to even question it you know what I'm saying so gotta you're the worst two slick talkers out there but on some g shit because y'all hear me do the freestyle shit mace is like dumb nights get busy not like no I'm talking about you know you ain't hearing really rapping a long thing is nice nice like a real real problem I want to say he's better than me I want to say that he's right underneath me right there now we saw the one where he spit on it is what it is I forced him dude I had to beg like too much for that to happen but but do you know what a problem is for me He sends me the shit

Why I tell him Just stop sending me shit My nigga Because I'm getting frustrated I think he do this shit To tease me to be honest with you Okay, I'm listening to this Listen to this

And this shit never comes out But I think he does it for therapy He makes too much other money Besides What we do Mace makes a lot of money And I think I don't want to say that

But music isn't a priority I wish it's a priority I guess it's a priority I saw you to Memphis Bleak That Mace told you That if you and Jewel's the music Or you and him even do anything That y'all put out

It has to be like a moment because of all that stuff what would that moment if y'all hypothetically speaking if it did happen what would that moment be is it an offer for a big show or anything we do together

like Mace like if we get booked together Mace don't move for less than 100,000 for him and that's just being nice like he just don't move he'd do too much of a shit to where he's like

Kim if I'm not getting 100 I don't even call him if it ain't like 200,000 because he doesn't care like he really doesn't like what he got going on he doesn't care about doing anything else so I'd be like yo mace yo listen

so-and-so want to book us for like 125,000 he's like you want to take 25 and I'm like no he's like scam you have to realize it's a moment when we're together we haven't been speaking for 25 for 10 years

why would we take that money I'm like mason it's just a look it's not a good look So more the story is, he basically says we haven't been speaking for a while. We're getting older. Everything that we need to do needs to count. So kind of like when you heard me say that with Jewel's, same thing, Jewel's has sent me to a record, send a record for me to do probably five, six months,

maybe longer than that. And there was a good record, but it was like, you got to be spectacular. We didn't do a song in 15 years. So that's kind of what you heard. How did you and Mace get back together for people that don't know? because there was, y'all were going back and forth for years. And then Gillian Wallow, right? Yeah, absolutely.

Shout to Gillian Wallow. He went on Gillian Wallow show to, I guess his artist was saying that Mace was stealing from him or whatever. And when he was up there, he just was like, he basically, like, shouted me on the cool way. He's like, because, you know, he did a disc record and it was kind of, it was crazy, the Oracle, this and me. He's like, I didn't really want to do that to camp. And I was like, but he said, in the cool, he's like, Cairn's my man, then I went on Gilly and Wallow and then we talked and then when we spoke,

we spoke and we just kept it moving, but all because of Gileon Wallow, basically. And how did the show come together from there? So the show actually came together. We were supposed to do a tour after we got cool, me, him and Jada, that didn't work out. And so many people were inviting me to do podcasts. Like, yo, Cam, do a podcast,

when are you going to do a podcast? And I'm like, I don't really want to talk to niggas for a living. You know what I'm saying? Like, because I don't want to have to talk to nobody, but I do like sports. So I look at the phone, and I'm arguing with niggas,

and the time I hang the phone up, it's just, say, two and a half hours of me arguing with a nigga about sports. So I was like, maybe this is something I want to do. And I built a state, I got to say on stage, I built my own set out. And I said, I'm going to do ESPN meets the hood.

so that's why we wear suits on the show but it was a professional setting and then after that I invited Mace on the show as a guest and he's like Ken what's going on and I'm saying I'm just shooting this shit I said I got a budget I'm gonna reach this budget

and see if niggas bike calls and he's like you want to be partners I'm like after I get my money back on what I spent we could go 50 50 and he's like I bet so we did about 10 shows and a bunch of people called so we ended up doing like 30 shows and ended up getting

a really good deal but after I did like five shows he's like my fifth guest and he's like to be partners because I have nobody consistent doing it anyway so that's how I came together. I think y'all smoking shit man I think everything that y'all have done in the media space what it is what it is and the talk was flea I think y'all smoking shit. Nah I appreciate that thank you brother

I appreciate it man it's all natural it's all fun and kind of me and mace relationship is like just picking up because the shit we be talking about just regular high school shit or shit after high school shit, you gotta realize a lot of our public life was publicized, so Mace got his deal at 21. I got my deal at 21, so a lot of shit y'all see.

Music-wise, it's been since me 21 years old. And I also say, you know, if you, whatever- But thank you for that. If what you build only benefits you, it's not big enough. I love the way that you've empowered somebody like treasure. You know what I'm saying? And I know you got to like a whole production team there.

And she has like a network or something of her own or she can develop content. Well, she has her own show. It's called Check Out the stat and whatever she wants to do, she's able to do. We don't hold anybody out. We don't stop nobody from doing what they could do, what they want to do. She's big in the streaming world.

You know, I'm not really twitching and all that. Like, she's big with Kassanai and her boyfriend's a streamer and everything else, but she just turned 24 years old. So it's really dope to have a dynamic of her being on the show because we tease her about shit. She don't know and then she'll turn it back on us. like y'all niggas don't know this shit. So it's good, different generations being on the show,

but definitely she has a bunch of shit that she has going on, but her show is called Checkout the Step. In the moment with her, you and Adrian Bronner that went viral, like we had a conversation about it up here. And when I watched the moment, I was so appreciative of it and I'm not her, just because I know what it's like to not be able to, like, kind of say things or whatever. When that went super viral,

when people were reacting to it, how did you feel watching it? Because it was a natural thing for you to just do. I don't really watch the shows, to be honest with you. We do them shit five days a week, and I keep it moving. So I didn't really, I never watched it. But in the moment, you're asking? Like, in the moment, see, a lot of things, y'all didn't see.

We don't, we don't go live. We pre-recorded. So I stopped the show like six, seven times and asked him to stop. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like just once. It was like six, seven times. Because I know Adrian Brun, I have a relationship with him.

So I kept asking him to stop. and he was like, oh, my bad, my bad, bro, and he wouldn't stop. And her boyfriend was there, too. So I was like, yo, bro, you got to chill. And he's like, not kidding, my bad, my bad, and he wouldn't chill. So basically, I just asked him to leave. You know, I didn't really want some of the parts I was where the guy edited to where when I came back and I was kind of frustrated

and I said some shit about him afterwards, which I didn't want the air, but that was just pure frustration. But in the moment, that's like my little sister, you know what I'm saying? And so at the end of the day, if you keep doing that shit, you're disrespect to her. And then if I ask you to stop, you disrespect to me. So now you're really in my house and you disrespect to me. So I paid him for his time and I asked him to leave.

Like I said, it ain't like he's a stranger. I know who he is and we got some mutual friends as well. So in the moment, it was just disrespectful because it isn't like we asked you to stop several times. And he apologized and people were mad at you because they were like, yo, I guess they caught you saying something. They're like, why you ain't said to his face? That's what I was talking about. I mean, I was saying that because when I sat back down,

I was like, I hate this thing. I don't really want to repeat what I said. And he was like, basically, you know, Cam, this, down and third, why did you say that? It was purely out of frustration. That's like saying, if y'all walk me out now and then you sit down, you don't know, I didn't sit down for the edit. And then you'd be like, yo, this nigga.

You know what I'm saying? I said a little more than that, but it's like, that part should have been cut out. But it wasn't about saying nothing to his face. I said it to his face. I walked over to him. and actually escorted him out. It wasn't about a fighting situation for me

and nothing like that. I was just more of a, I think he was a little intoxicated and he just needed to be escorted out. He out of himself accountable with your father? Yeah, smart guy. So any artist that comes up there that talks to your coach, you're going to pay him out? The thing about it is, I'm not going to,

Terrence Crawford's there, I'm not walking up on Terrence Crawford. I'm not walking up on Territ's COVID, but it's security there. It ain't just us in there. It's other people that's outside the studio. So it isn't just randomly me just putting things out. But I feel me and him was cool enough for me to do that.

And I'm glad you bought that pink horsepower. Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. I can't order it discreetly, I don't think. I'm glad that you bought it up here. No, what is it? I thought it was edible. What is it? She's starting to take one.

She could take one for a man. You all good time. So basically, um. And they deliver, too, by the way. You call it. Oh, you're done. Okay, I mean, you're sick a crazy. They didn't tell us that.

You told me that you did the pink horse power. We talked about the honey pack back in the day. Yeah, the honey pack gave you a headache. He's don't get no headaches. Yeah, this is all natural. Okay, you're being an ambassador. Yeah, it's all natural. It's from Africa.

You said from Africa? I'm going to show. Pink horses in Africa. I'm going to show you the video like so you can see exactly where I went to get it. Because the thing about it is this. So they have this in the city, different places. But what happens is I know people in Senegal and it comes in on a boat. And what happens is when it's on the boat.

boat they water it down they double or double down so it's more when it gets here and basically i keep a nigger on the boat for two months to watch our stocks so that we make sure we have the highest potency of it but it's all natural leaves roots trees and um we just got the best product it works we've been doing this for four years uh probably made close to 10 million dollars on it and uh it's been really really good my man sugar digger basically runs everything right now with that shit, but it's been really well. And the thing about we are reoccurring customers, niggas coming back, I guarantee it.

Like Frank Lucas said, I guarantee it, nigga. Like, it's really gonna work. But Jess said, ask me how long does it take to activate? I said, 10 minutes. I said, I wouldn't go do that and go to the mall, hang out with your mom, nothing else. Take that when it's time to go and it works really fast. It don't make your heartbeat crazy?

No, everything's good. You see, I mean, no. It's natural. You know what I said nothing. No, hey, you know it. That's not a conversation. To be honest with you, I don't want to say too much because, but it has good health effect as well.

Yeah, I mean, I see ginger, ginseng, turmeric, natural flavor. Wait to after, man. I know how y'all do. I want to go ahead and grab mine right. That's a little shit don't work. And take one per day because some time niggas. So drink the whole day? Did that just leave me with one?

Yeah, take one for the whole day. You said they deliver. You said they deliver, no. Order you something. Order you something. Order something. Take a shot. You take the shot. Take a shot.

Oh man. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're on a joan, nigga. You got a whole stop. That's why I got six kids. Kim, what conversations were you having where you were like, you know what? This is what I'm bringing next with the Pink Horse Power.

Like, who was your market study? For this situation, the pandemic. That's when I saw there. Like I said, it was on tour. Nobody was doing shit but fucking at home. And like I said, I knew somebody from Senegal who actually brings it in and he was giving me something and he's like Cam, this is watered down.

If you want the highest potency, we could go to Senegal. And I'm like, you serious? I'm like, so I took the trip. And I've seen how niggas is manipulating it on the boat and how, because it's a lot of places who say, I got the shadow, they'd be like, I got Cam, I got cam, we got the same shit.

No, you don't. You are getting it from the niggas that's watering it down bringing it over here and we're getting the highest potency possible. Let me ask you, because what was your favorite viral news network moment. Was it the 60 Minutes Joint? Was it the Bill O'Reilly

or the CNN drinking pink horsepower? CNN. CNN? By far, because first of all, like Bill O'Reilly, I didn't know who Bill O'Reilly was. Like, I remember being a Rockefeller, and they was like, Kim,

do you want to go Bill O'Reilly? He's like big. He's on Fox. Y'all, y'all. He's like, I bet. He's like, but he'm telling you, Kim. He's like one of these niggas this, you don't, I'm telling you don't know

or he's going to come at you, pause. I'm like, good, let's figure it out. So I had no idea who Bill O'Reilly was. I just went up there and just debated the nigger like, fuck it, I don't give a fuck. 60 minutes, I was mad high. I ain't going to lie. I was super duper high on 60 minutes.

I was wow high. And, pardon me. That was cool. But the CNN shit that just passed they kept calling me and I'm like, yo, I'm cool. And they was like, yo, it's going to be a puffsion. I'm like, puff questions and all that. I'm like, nah, I don't want to do it.

Then they said, well, we'll talk about other things. So I was like, bet, can we pre-record it? I'm like, absolutely not. It has to be done live. So in case y'all try and renege on what y'all said, I'm going to expose the situation because I told you I don't want to be up here answering a bunch of puff questions. And when we got up there, I said, I do one or two,

but you kept forcing the issue. I bet. Let's do it. Pink Horse Power commercial, the whole shit. So that's how that went. But that was my favorite one out of all over. I know sales was crazy for Pink Horse Power. Crazy.

And to be honest with you, that's kind of how, to be honest, how it kind of catapulted, because sugar's running around, you know, going hand-to-hand. But Gilly Show, sales went up 400 percent. Then I did. Now, pardon me, Norrie's show. When I did Drink Champs first, it went crazy. Then I did Gilly Show.

and it went crazy and that was another reason I started a podcast I'm like I could shoot a commercial for this every day on my own shit matter of fact should get some more back up here so hopefully the sales will be a little better

after doing you guys show man now I tell everybody Cam is one of the pettiest people I know right yeah I said between Cam and 50 they are the two pettiest people I've ever seen in my life I'm trying to do better though no you're not what happened to Omar goodness And so you're trying to do better after that?

See, niggins don't even know in the back story. So, like, right, Omar Gooden, pardon me again, Omar Gooden, I was on my show talking about B-Less actors, black actors, no disrespect to him. But we all know his brother, Cuba, is the biggest star. And basically, I said Omar Gooden, Jr. And he went off, he went crazy. and because I hired him before for a movie

I did like 2011-2012 percentage I did a movie with Queen Latif and Shaqam shot to Queen Latifah and Shaqam and we hired him so in my segment in my show I'm like yo it's fucked up for the B-class black actor because you got to sit here and wait for somebody to call you for a part or

if they do who says you're going to get the part like just sitting around and waiting and I was actually talking to Rich Paul and he's like them niggas should have came up with a network by now all came together you know what I'm saying but I basically was telling y'all when telling him saying what I'm telling y'all now right and I called him omar gooding junior and he just went crazy he was like how to fucking my junior when cub is the junior you disrespect and you don't call him in out his name

this down the third so I'm like I got him on this page I said you go look at the dates I said my bad bro I didn't mean to offend you no no no problem now fuck that then he started doing disc records and I was like his rapping wasn't bad though I wasn't that bad it was all right I put it on the pair, I said, this type, hi. I wrote that shit on his comments. I'm like, yo, I don't want no smoke, bro. This is a hype. This is dope.

So, did another one. I'm like, I bet. So I know how much you cost, bro. You know what I'm saying? So I had a mutual friend. I was like, yo, when you, I haven't used him pores in a while. How much you, you caught booking for you? Like, when I need a movie scene, I pay him $1,200.

I said, I got $3,000 for the nigger. and that's how that went because he wouldn't stop doing records and I already said I didn't want a problem So you said I'm going to come up with a fake movie A fake script So you have to proceed to Patty to do this Yeah but what happened is he signed a paperwork

And so let's just say I paid every three I gave him $3,000 because I know he wouldn't say no because he gets $1,200 So I said $3,000 His flight was $7,800 And so let's just say

I spent $5,000. So once he's signed up paperwork, I'm getting 10 times that for the episode. So I win. I spent five, but I made $45 off of his stupidity for me telling you, I don't want no problem with you, but you won't stop. So now I'm going to give you five and make $45 and this content at the same time. So you was really in the other room watching and directed?

I was in another room, but I had a ring camera up around the corner at one of my cribs. watching the whole shit the whole time. And he was trying to say that he was going to take legal action. Is that possible? Because what documents did you have him sign or like whatever? Adam, so basically my man who actually did they sign my man, Bibi, one of my production companies, partners of one of my production companies, we basically had him sign everything. And what he was trying to say was going to take legal action about everything was cool

but the dressing room. But he didn't realize what he signed was once you walk in, we can use security footage, ring footage, everything that we wanted to use once you walked in the building, any camera we wanted to use. And what I did was he had, we gave him $1,500 up front. And when he came, I made sure the other $1,500 was in tens and five, so it looked like he got a lot of money. So when he gave him, we gave him the night, he was,

I knew he would just sign anything. Oh, so wow. Because, you know, when it looked for us, when it looked like it's a lot. Yeah. So we paid him like tens and five. so it looked like he had $20,000 when it was just $1,500. I don't know why you waited so long

to do the killer comedy show and I don't know why you're not on stage your damn stuff. It's so bad. It's so funny. No, I just don't be bothering people and then I'll be like, yo, leave me alone because I know where I could go with it.

And this is what happens, basically. But yeah, thanks for even bringing that up. We got the killer comedy show. It's today? Tonight. It's tonight. At the Beacon Theater. At the Beacon Theater.

Desha'am on me and Johnny Shipes in the building. He's the one to put everything together. D. Ray's going to be there. Jayfowell is going to be there, Tony Rock. Cory Holcomb, yeah. Sorry, I don't know if y'all still be for the other. Yeah, we are. I got none to do it.

Will Mills and Ray, Ray, so. Jay Farrow, too. Yeah, yeah, we said John Farrow, yeah. Yeah, so. And Ferg performing. Ferg is performing as well, definitely. Y'all are all welcome to come. I don't know what you guys are doing,

but you're more than welcome to come. but we actually put that together because I did a, I got a cameo in a movie Happy Gilmore, too. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, how did that come about? So, yeah, Joe Vessy, he's a comedian and writes with Adam Sandler, he's a big fan,

he's the one that kind of got us in the movie. Adam Sandler is my man, too. And he has a stand-up, and he wants me to put it out. I guess he's not going through the right channels, and I'm like, Johnny, like I said, we're going to put that out, but he was like, let's just do a whole fucking, comedy show we got our outback they sponsored and that's i going so we're gonna go on tour with it

that easy but shout to joe vese for even giving me the idea to want to do it oh so lute joe that's my man yeah what made you want to get in the comedy now though because you always been funny right always i'm beyond it was joe vessie okay i'm not even going to say and hold you when he said he had so he has a stand-up that's done and he just wanted to put it into my lap and say cam do what you can do it and i'm like he's not on this show because paperwork kind of took a wow but it was purely when he had a stand-up and I'm like I'm gonna find a home for it but why not put a show together after that that's kind of it's really totally Joe Vessie that gave me the idea to put a comedy show together you know he know you know his dad

Peter Vester he wanted best sports commentators ever hey Joe Vess he's like a street basketball playing all that shit too man so shout to him that's how I came about dope no more no less man I got to ask where did the friction with you and Dame come from how did that happen I don't know it's a nigga Dame like He was a manager, a partner with you at one time, right? Dame, like, Dame did a lot for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, today's going to be my last day, Dame dashing. Us too.

Us too. Yeah, because it's annoying, you know what I'm saying? So, to be honest with you, um, pardon me, to be honest with you, I feel like I got set up. It felt like Dame had all these problems with me and never said it and was looking like a reason to say it. I was in a terrible deal of epic records I grew up with Dane and Rockefeller was up and he helped me get out that deal

and then actually signed me to Rockefeller that helped me get my group on Rockefeller put out a platinum album The Diplomats was born It was great And he did a lot for me So I always attribute that Not only I knew niggas since I was like 10, 11 years old

You know what I'm saying and when Rockefeller fell apart he's still my man he's my man last year I don't know what I'm saying he's been my man this whole time but to me it's like a setup because no matter what

so publicly I've been giving this man props for 25 years and it hasn't been a smooth 25 years but that's always been my friend I've never ran to the internet and talked about you but we're having good time bad time whatever but I do do over the years

just take breaks from me when I say that it's like I can call him for a minute I call him next year this and the third and when he started talking about me

on different on different podcast I'm like bro what the fuck is this about but he was guess he was saying Kim is not a man

he ain't calling me this time yo bro everybody's not built for your personality I am I just know how to take breaks from you

from time to time because I know your personality now I want to deal with it right now but for him to go to the internet, start talking about me. It was like, really?

This is what the fuck we doing? And when I seen that, I was like, this is crazy. He kept doing it, kept doing different interview. Yo, Kim, this, Kim, that Kim, this. And I'm like, and then he talked about, the last thing was he said, I didn't promote nothing. We were supposed to go partners on with HonorUp, the movie, and we did an album with A-track, and he said, I didn't promote it.

And I finally gave feedback on why I didn't promote it. I'm like, I didn't want to be in it. You know what I'm saying? No disrespect, but that's how it happened. From there, Avalanche. He's just been crazy. Start going to create, Kim, there's Kim, that Kim. It's a even point where it's like, bro, now you're stretching the truth.

You're lying about a few things. But that's where it all started from. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder. of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator

on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice. to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said.

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Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcasts For me, this an honor up But to me If you wanted to just my art Or my movies or my music or whatever cool You start getting personal And start taking mad personal shit

And I'm like we know too much About each other To be doing personal shit Because this shit could get nasty because I know a lot about you, you know a lot about me, and I'm mad funny. Like, I don't want a rag doll nigger, my man, on the internet, especially, like, that's how I'm not talking about, but who the fuck is you around

to come out with a patch and teeth? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would never let you do that because you're my man. I texted them, I'm like, yo, bro, whoever you're around, they, you're not around no real niggas because they would not let you come on the camera like that. And that's kind of how I started when I dishonored when the shit just got personal

and it was to the point where I'm like yo listen man this could get nasty and I spoke to Daniel I know Daniel was up here with him Daniel cool with me too and so he kind of mediated it and he was like yo

this shit is down the good look for Harlem yada y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all I was like cool I said listen it was a Thursday he said look I said listen I got something coming out tomorrow it's already done. If you tell him,

listen, this is coming out tomorrow, but I won't say nothing else about him on the internet. Cool. He says, cool, he said, cool. He's still talking about me on the internet yesterday. Right now.

You know what I'm saying? Cam Capone's on part 15, 17, right? Exactly. And it was like, bro, I thought we were going to talk about each other. Cool, that ain't no problem. But to me, to be honest with you, I was tapped out when

the nigger issued a $300 million lawsuit, and then he tells Daniel to tell me, you'll tell Kim to give me a million dollars and we might let it all go away. I'm like, you're trying to quiet and distort me? Like, what are you talking about? Send you a million off the 300 million. I said, let's go to court.

It's not a real lawsuit, it was chat GPT, the sign from the dash group. We got one of those two. Yeah, no, but the fact that the lawsuit, we got a defact that the nigger even that's supposed to be my man even do some shit like that, like, yo, for a million they'll go away.

Nigger, I'm not sending you a million dollars. Well, I'm glad he didn't take your show off revolt because he could, like, he was your boss. Yeah, he was your boss. Yeah, that's the point. Like, the shit, the shit that, nigga, be talking about to me, this, like, to me it's semi-disappointing because I looked up to him, you know what I'm saying? And I'm just a point where I don't wish him wealth, health, and success, but I can't know more because, like you said, in the Ken Capone or that shit, you were the

point where you say as long as your name stay in the algorithm, even if it takes beefing with your man to be in the algorithm, that's where you're at in life. And I'm like, I see why niggas be curving. You got to think about this. Not just artists. If you sit there and think about the artists that he helped and put on, it's phenomenal. You sit there and thinking about Kevin Hart or Jay-Z or Kanye or myself or whoever. Nobody fuck with you. Is it the artist or is it too? You know what I'm saying? Day one, niggas don't fuck with you. Daniel, I'm not saying Daniel and his man, but like Real Max. all the niggas bigs, like,

niggas from your hood don't fuck with you. So I don't mean this in the bad way because I know you're going to take this and this will be like I asked another three, four months for him. You know, he'll take a spinning dish, kid, da, da, da. And then I'll be seeing, like, to me, bro, you try to defame my character to where it's like, for what, my nigga?

Kim's a civilian. All right, Dane, whatever, I'm a civilian. We tried to give you a million dollars last year when you was in the news, for owing $800,000. We Mason, Dame, don't even got a good relationship. They don't even fuck with each other, but Mace felt bad. And he's like, Kim, you're going to spend $500,000, $500,000?

Just so we, this nigga don't got no debt? I'm like, I don't know. I'll do it, but I don't really know if we're going to make our money back. But for the sake of Dame, yeah, I'll do it. And then when the shit didn't go through, we suckers. Because you want to wait on a young boy NBA or Drake or whatever deal you had. We tried to give you a million dollars. just to clear your debt up

and you basically gambled yourself out where you're more money. Did you call his son to do? Remember he was saying that you called his son? So basically, y'all probably be lost with all this shit that he'd be on on. So he bought it up here.

He bought it up a couple times when he's up here. He's like, Kim is running around with this nigga named Larry. And y'all probably don't even know. I have no idea of Larry. Yeah, exactly. So do you even remember him saying it?

I do remember if you bring up Larry. He kept bringing up Larry. He kept bringing up Larry. Let me give you a backstory on Larry. Larry had a grow in Vegas where he was meeting a bunch of rappers and everything paying everybody to promote his grow in Vegas. Dane met Norrie. Pardon me.

Norrie introduced Dane to Larry. Like, Norrie knew Larry first. And he introduced Dane. Larry was paying Dane $5,000 a month. to promote his weed. Dame ain't Snoke Dog or Wiz Khalifa would be like, but he's still giving a nigga to bread like, I ain't here.

Supposed to give him 3% of the company. I don't really know about that part or whatever. But anyway, not only that, Larry's paying you to promote his weed. Larry lives in Vegas. Not only that, your son live with Larry as a grown man. So Boogie, his son,

live with Larry for two and a half years because he wasn't fucking with Dane. You know what I'm saying? or they didn't have a good relationship. I don't want to say he wasn't fucking with him. They didn't have a great relationship. He's sitting there as like, can be with Larry now, can't be with Larry now.

Larry puts up $50,000 for a movie. Dame held up $50,000 or supposed to put $50,000 for a movie and another nigga put up $50,000 for a movie. Movie's supposed to be $150,000. Dame tells Larry, when this lady calls, allocate the money to her.

So she may want 12,000 now, 6,000 now, 7,000 now, whatever. When it gets to the 50,000, he calls Dame and says, yo, I gave the lady the 50,000. Dame goes off him, you dumbass, nigger, you're a Vegas Bama. So I called this nigga a bunch of names talking about, I didn't tell you to give. I didn't, Jesus, these niggas, niggas, niggas, crazy. Yeah, I didn't tell you to give her $50,000. He's like, I don't know his lady. How'd I get a number?

Yada, y'all, y'all, y' yada. Larry hangs up on him calls me he said Cam I've been dealing with Dan I deal with his insult I say this is the last straw I've been paying this man

this promote the weed I gave him 50,000 for a movie etc I just can't I'm tapped out dame calls me after we're not fucking with Larry I said why not

he hung up on me that's not what real men do real men don't hang up on niggas like how many times me and you argue you never hung the phone up on me to say that I say thing. I know you. Everybody's not

built for your verbal assassination or whatever the fuck you want to call your verbal assault. Everybody can't take that. You know what I'm saying? Verbal fair one. Yeah, yeah. You did a good job. So he's going crazy on me hanging out with life because

I feel Larry didn't do nothing wrong. That man looked like your son live with him. He was paying you to do weed. He put up 50,000 for a movie and because he hung up on you because you started and sought him about $50,000 where he allocated it to where you want to be allocated it to, he's a Vegas bama.

I can't jack that, bro. I'm not, he's a good nigga. He's a nigga when we get to, when we, I stay in Vegas now before we's coming, big time gambler. We have to pay for no hotels, comps at every hotel. Take, I take my, my sprinter. We didn't have to pay for shit when we went to Vegas. And because he hung up on him, now he's,

not a real man, but he's trying to spin the narrative. Remember, I was telling you three people doing the movie. The third person is suing Dane for the movie. Kim is hanging out with a nigga who's suing me. I don't know this nigga who's suing you. I know, Larry's not

suing you. He's just taking the L on the $50,000. You know what I'm saying? He's like, yo, I'll take the L. But Dane going around, Kim, running around with a nigga who's suing me. I'm not running around with a nigga suing me. Lorry's not even suing you, but that's the narrative that he's pushing. So when he's talking about some of me doing so in the son,

his son called, so Larry's a producer on Talk with Flea on my show. Boogie, dame's son, call Larry asking for money. Recently, ask him for money. So like, like, yo, you want to get Boogie on the show? I'm like, I don't give him a fuck. He's like, you're going to give him $5,000. I said, all right, cool. You were interviewing them.

You were syncing to interview him. I don't give a fuck. I text Boogie for the producer for our writers. What do you want to talk about on the show? he says his music and his movies I have to text message I said cool I give it to the writers

two days later Kim trying to do shit with my son that niggas foul da da da da da da da da da da da how you gonna reach out to my son your son reached out to Larry and said he was fucked up Larry asked the nigga do he want to come on the show he said yeah he took the deposit

he sent the deposit back but now you spend it in again to where you're fucking with my family y'all my nigger nobody calls his son your son called Larry. Larry asked him if he wanted to come on the show. And that's the name Larry that y'all keep hearing.

So it's just basically... What's up, Larry? What's up, Larry? What's up, Larry? Yeah, so now y'all know the back story. Daddy name is Larry. Right, and the thing is for me, the last thing I will say about this situation

with Larry anyway's concerned. Larry's white. My mom died of cancer two and a half years ago. I watched Saddam. Thank you. I appreciate it. I watched Saddam. for a month.

She was good January 8th, went to the hospital in January 9th stage your mom got about a month and I have to live. Jesus. So she died. He's on this show, talking about you, Larry need to just be worrying about his wife. Larry's wife died four days after they was on the show.

I was watching his wife die with the nigger. Like, she was in hospice, she was at hospital. She didn't want to die in the hospital. She went home and so with hospice so she could out at home so Dame is on the show like

yeah and this nigga Larry don't need to worry he just need to worry about his wife this is a nice guy this thing ain't in the all this shit I'm into I'm with all this dumb shit this is a cool nigga

you know what I'm saying you up there telling this man wife I'm literally watching her die every day so I'm like yo bro you really don't got no boundaries you dismal at Larry for what nigga that nigga watched your son

for two years and made sure that nigga got a roof over his head and now you're mad at because he's not in a lawsuit. He paid you $5,000 a month and then you put his business out there. Who the fuck said that the nigger want his business out there

about his dying wife? That's why old your dad told him chill out. Did he? Yeah, he did. Because you know why? Daniel wife died from cancer. He watched his wife die on a deathbed from cancer.

So he kind of get it. But at the end of the day, fuck is you talking about, yo, you need to go watch your wife and you don't understand what that scenario is about. And that's what I'm like, I wish you the best, my nigga,

but you don't really care because she died four or five days after the interview. Condolences, that's hard. Yeah. That's just a back story on the last. There's only two questions I had about the dance situation.

I wasn't even going to bring it up. Yeah, not. I don't give a fuck. Like I said, it's done for me today. You can fight by yourself. I'm not fighting with you. When you talk about him bringing up family, I didn't understand why he bought up

you having a script a pole and a house your mother was in. But he was in there partying, having a good time. Did he tell you that he had a problem with that back then? No, first of all, it was a two-family home. My mother wasn't on the side with the strip,

but just to give some context of what's going on. I bought my mom in my house when I first got on. She never wanted to move in the house. She's Harlem. You get what I'm saying? So that wasn't my primary house. I had a few houses. Still do.

And she had a stroke. And she was like, she's not moving to Jersey no matter what. I'm like, Mom, you can't run around Harlem like this. But that's a New York thing. Most, my parents are never living in Queens. Right. Never. Right.

So, example is basically when she never moved into the house, it's a two-family home. I built my studio in there, out of strip clubbing there, all that. So I'm like, Mom, the house is still there. I'm going to put you on the other side house. It's a separate address. It's not even the same address. So my mom is hood.

And she didn't give her fuck, you know what I'm saying? But you're acting like I had her in the bedroom next to a stripper code. It's a fucking never house around the corner. But no, he didn't have a problem with it. He loved it. But that's what I'm trying to tell you. He's trying to defame my character. For what reason?

I have no reason why. I saw people reacting to that in the comments. I talked about just how low that was, regardless of what he was trying to do, because I think everybody knows how you were about your mom and what you went through. Right, absolutely. Well, you know what it is, is that,

and people might not have seen that part because I ain't posted it. And he still shouldn't have said it. But he felt the way, because when he said that shit about Larry wife I was on his comments talking about he ain't one of his kids that he found out like he had not buggy

he found out he had another kid and he took like eight paternity tests trying not to find one to making our beers so he got you all them niggins on play fair god damn I don't know that's what I told you yeah but you know I'm gonna be honest about it

yeah but he was mad about it so I was putting and all that in the comments, and that's when he did the shit about, yeah. So I, like I said, it was low, I was low, but that was low what he did, but I get why he did it, you know what I'm saying? Because I would start spilling a lot of business.

That's why I said shit could get messy. Shit about his girl, I was in the comments. We see. I was it all in there like, bro, I know too much. I don't really wanna do it. It's more shit, man, I just won't say, you know what I'm saying? So. Another thing we see that revival was the Big El thing.

Yeah, like, bro, Big El didn't even like you, my nigga. Big else from my block, right? And Big old brothers, brother, he had a couple brothers, but his brother, Big Lee kind of ran my block, him and then somebody else, a couple of other people. And they hated Dane. They hated Dane. They hated Dane to the point where when Big Lee came home, that's Big old brother, they ran down, he ran down on Damiencing, like, you owe me a favor. And they, I told him, he's like, yeah, I'm going to do the favor for him.

I'm like, yo, this is polite distortion, I wouldn't do the favor. He end up dying Big Al's brother, Big Lee. But he did not fuck with you. And to the point where you're not even lying that me, you, and Big Al was in a car somewhere, it's just stupid. Like, you know what I'm saying? Why did he lie so much?

I don't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. And you know what I'm saying? It's to the point where it's like, bro, when that nigger said, whatever I need to do to stay in the Alka River, you just knew it was over from that.

Yeah, like, my man sent me a clip to where it's like, yo, you know not saying me and jim not have the best relation now and i wish him the best as well but it's to the point where he's like yeah i ain't going to lie jim war ping first you know you said that three days ago or two days ago i'm like what is that after you do with anything you got going on bro this is what i'm trying to say he's trying to throw me under the bus as much as he can to the point where you'll say and do anything what i'm taking from it and i'm just not with it no more another thing i didn't understand when he said you went on

the radio to announce you was VP of Rockefeller. He said you did that on purpose. He thinks you did that on purpose because you knew it would cause problems at the label. Correct me if I'm wrong. I thought I remember you being on the air and you was on the phone.

I thought you was on the phone with Dame and you said Dame gave us the green light and that's what I remember. That's what I remember. I don't remember exactly how happened. I ain't going to say a lot of you, but you ain't have a problem with it all these years. Now all of a sudden you got a problem with it.

Like my nigga, I understand it may cause friction later, but why the fuck? would I want to damage some shit that's going good? You know what I'm saying? Like, it was probably the height of my music career at that particular time. Why the fuck would I want to damage that?

Like I'm saying, all the shit that he's saying now, it sounds like he has shit building up, and now he's throwing lies mixed in with it. But you didn't make that up, though. Somebody told you that you was going to be... No, he actually told me that. What he's trying to say is that I jumped the gun and set it publicly when I shouldn't have said it publicly.

That's what he's trying to say. But there's no way in the world you didn't tell me that. And what happened was I went to my lawyers to try and negotiate the deal and I think I don't remember I think I wanted $750,000 and it was like, no, we was just gonna make you the president

and I'm like no, fuck it and then when Jay Z must have came back from vacation according to Bleak because I shout to Bleak, I did Bleak show Rock Salad, yeah, and he was just basically like Jay ain't like that shit so that's kind of how that went but no, it's no way I was making that up

that's exactly what you told me. He told me he wanted to make me and beans vice president president whichever way it went i tried to negotiate the deal the money wasn't right and obviously j z didn't approve it but how can he call you out on that and then come up here and say he the chairman of revolt and nobody even told him that he was the chairman of he made that up i'm just so glad he didn't take cam show or that's i was a mess hall that's my most of the revolt had to be crazy after that because they probably try to figure out what's going on so so this is what happened actually um when all this shit was going on

And this dead series, too, before it happened, Revolta hit me and was like, do you mind if we work with Dame? And I'm like, because all the shit was going on. And I'm like, I don't really care. Like, it wouldn't be until 2026 because, you know, programming-wise, the slots of field. So I have two shows that I can put out starting this month

that I wanted to put out. When Daniel called me, I say, yo, no, not Daniel, I put it on Instagram, I told Daniel about it, but I put it on Instagram. I had two slots left. I said, Revolt might want to work with you, but it ain't going to be until next year.

But if you want, the opportunity you gave me, I'll give to you. When I got a need to get off Epic Records, you gave me a chance to do music and you executive producer albums. I said, let me give you the same opportunity and let me executive produce your TV shows. You ain't got a

wait till next year. And you was going to give revolt all your content for free. That's how bad he wanted it. And I say, yo, I'll even pay you. Shout to Big Fendi. That was the middleman for that. So I said, tell Dane this

before I put it on Instagram. And Fendi was like, yo, the beginning of the conversation was cool. He was like, I bet. He said, but before I hang up, he's like, no, fuck that. Nick, I ain't producing my shows. He can't do that. No, no, no. He can't do that. It's ego. You was ready

to do it for free. And because you want me to, I can't, because I want to executive producer shows, fuck that. I don't get it. You're going to do it for free. Now you can do it and I can executive producer and give you a check. It's just, it was ego. So then, that's when he went on to announce he was the chairman. And I've never seen a nigger force this way to try and be somewhere

where niggas don't want them in my life. The shit was, wow. Damn. Beautiful, right? What stage of production or development is it in right now, the series? Right now, 50s fillet. Still trying to finish up some stuff in Shreveport because I believe he wants to do a lot of stuff in Shreveport.

But it's probably not going to even be to the point to where we do casting, maybe not until April or May or something like that. I think he wanted to just make the announcement, get the buzz going because he's shooting like three TV shows, 1,800 movies, that nigger. That nigger worked. and he does shows in between.

But if I had to guess a timeline, I would say probably April or May for casting, but I think it's some loose sense you want to get tighter in Shreveport. Why did you do more? Hold up. Because I want to audition. Don't do me like, oh, my, nigga.

Like, I really want to audition. You got to be careful, Cam. I know. Cam has sent you a deposit. Yeah, I don't got time. No, no, no. I mean, when it's time, I'll definitely let you know. But that's what I was telling the nigga

fifth when we were speaking, I say, yo, you put this announcement, I know he said he's going to do it, but you got to give me some more information because now everybody's hitting me. Oh, right. Like I said, not in a good way,

not in a bad way, but it's just like, when you ask these questions, I want to have the correct answers. And I was teasing, I said, yo, you see I announced out of the vice president of Rockefeller and shit went left out of me. I don't want to be saying the wrong shit too early

and shit, but definitely I'll let you know, but I don't want to give saying and even announced on this show a date. I'm just guessing right now if I had to guess probably April or May last because we talked two weeks about it. So does 50 have

the rights to tell the story? Like is that like what's that conversation? So basically he has the rights to pay them full. I guess it was up and he bought the actual rights to it. But he's going to slow the movie there to where you get

Alpo when he goes to D.C. You know what I'm saying? You get more of the preacher, the one who actually kidnaps Rich's nephew. You get his story. You know what I'm saying? You get Dementio. I know if y'all even know about Dementio.

You know what I'm saying? That's one of the people Alpo killed over a girl. You get all these different stories that kind of was sped up in the movie when you slow it down throughout the series. Gotcha. When you think about Legacy Cam, your legacy in particular, when you think about Legacy versus Peace of Mind, which one do you value more at this stage of your life?

your life. Peace of mind. Peace of mind is everything, big. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, for me to still be doing what I'm doing at this age, and even Envy knows, like, he's been doing what he's doing a long time. For us to still be relevant, having fun,

and still coming up to shit, like, to do shit like this. You know what I'm saying? People want to come up here and do this. You know what I'm saying? But for me, it's more like I get to fucking, I love sports. I get to talk about sports. all fucking day, watch sports all day and talk about it for an hour. And me and Mace made tens, I don't want to give the number,

we made tens of millions dollars in the last two years. And then to jump off, pillow off that and then do talk with flea and make a few million dollars. Like, you know, that's where I'm at, like, where I could build multi-million dollar companies or brands and don't, and be me. I don't want to have to do some shit I don't want to do at this point in life so when you think of Pink Horsepower

you think a multi-million dollar company or talk with Flea, multi-million dollar brand or it is what it is, a multi-million dollar company. I just love doing this. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm naming these shits like a hundred other things didn't work. You know what I'm saying? Like, people don't see the shit that don't work.

So 100 things that don't work, but just to figure it out at this age, like it's going to be 50 next year. I mean, it's just... But you figured it out early. like you you figured out peace of mind early oh yeah peace of mind absolutely i get away from niggas i don't know because when people wanted you it was like where's camera i don't know he bought a crib in florida he's killing he's not doing nothing yeah because you got to think about this right when you see and i'm asking yo this is a question i'm asking you when you see

somebody and like i said i don't want to bring it up but i hate keep repeating the blast of the last day do you when you see the person like dame do you look happy to you no no no no no That's what I'm saying. Like, happiness matters to me. Me too. Happiness and being able to pay my bills and all this other shit. You see, sometime when you bring my name up

to certain niggas, you just get mad, and they're emotional, and they be like, I'd be like, yo, this nix's angry. This nigger's really mad. I need, I don't want to be happy, I want to be laughing. Like, when you see me and Mace on the show, we be dead-ass laughing to where we edit some of that shit out

because we laughing that much. Like, that shit is cool. To make money, laugh, and go home, and have a piece of my, that means more to me than anything else or especially at this stage in life. What the fuck are we beefing and arguing about? Especially if you're making a couple dollars.

And then you don't wanna be beefing with the niggas you grew up with it, who and not at this age of life? You don't have to be around niggas, but the end of the day, what the fuck, how long you think it's supposed to be arguing with each other? You know what I'm saying? Or just in general arguing with anybody. I think a lot of people in hip hop

struggle to transition into new chapters of life. So when they, I'm like, when I see somebody like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I want to ask, how did you find peace and purpose outside of hip hop? Is it the other business business? Yeah, because, listen, man, I talk about that shit and think about that show all the time.

I'm like, yo, and no disrespect to nobody out there. I'm just like, yo, I hate to have to be in a club for $3,200 tonight. 59 years old, my nigga. Yo, what I'm saying? Like, yo, that shit would kill me. Like, yo, but some people, You got to realize, think about this, right?

Let's just use a better number. Let's use 5,000, 7,500. I'm like, yo, I don't want to be in there. Nobody's club that I don't want to be in for $70,500. But if you do that every week and you're this age, you just do it three times. You're sitting there saying, yeah, you make $20,000 a month. That ain't bad.

You know what I'm saying? That's not bad. Like, yo, fucking, nigga, I made $20,000 a month. And I'm 49 years old. And this is great, because you have a regular job and some people don't make that. I don't think that's a bad living at all. I'm just saying that isn't where I want to be able.

You know what I'm saying? So definitely peace of mind. Also, too, with Harlem, man. Yo, Harlem people talk about Harlem like it's Harvard. Like, what does Harlem mean to you today compared to when you were like 18? It ain't the same for me. You know what I'm saying?

Not at all. That's a great question, because it's so gentrified. It's just not the same. And I may sound ignorant for saying it, but I missed the abandoned buildings. I missed the vacant lots and going up, driving, you know, walking to school and almost stepping on glass. And I'm saying that's good and you shouldn't improve from that,

but that's just my memory of Harlem. Like, when I see Red Lobster on 125th, you know, like an H&M, I'll be like, this is crazy, you know what I'm saying? but it's gentrified and, you know, to me, everything, but you got to think about this too, right? Where I live is gentrified. Like, what this nigga doing over here? You know what I'm saying?

So you might got somebody white like, yeah, well, what the fuck? Remember when it was all white over here? You know what I'm saying? So it's a balance, but just for me, Harlem isn't what it used to be. I'm not saying Harlem still ain't Harlem today, but just not the Harlem I grew up with. My man, I sometimes shoot videos in this building and shit like that. And he's like, Cammy, I talk to the building manager.

I'm like, all right, who is it? And the dude's white. It's like, yo, I thought you was the manager. He's like, now I sold my apartment to the nigger. And now he's the manager. So now I've got to talk to somebody white and go into a building that I've been going to my whole life to get permission to shoot something on a roof. So for me, it's not the same, but I understand it.

Gotcha. When you talk about Harlem, I know you mentioned earlier, you and Jim's relationship not being the same, that's not, like, we're never going to get to see that sit down, combo, reunion, like anything at all? I don't know. I mean, like I said, I just think that we're in two different spaces in life. That don't mean I don't wish them well, and I don't mean Jewel's and everybody that was part of what we did. I think it's a great movement. But sometimes things just come to an end. So I'm not, I would never say never, but it doesn't look like it's in the near future.

But I do wish them brother as well. What do you hope people say about Cam 20 years from now? In particular, what do you hope people say you stood for? Well, if you sit there and watch everything I did since I've been 20, 21 years old, it's about helping people. Of course, helping myself as well. But I always tried to make sure everybody, despite what anybody says, tried to make sure people around me had money or was getting money

because I never wanted nobody to have to ask me for money. You know, it was one of those situations where I'm like, even when Jim, you think about Jim, Jim wasn't a rapper. It's like, yo, we're going to make you a rapper, my nigger. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, you ain't going to be around and not know how to rap. You know what I'm saying? And I think Jim is one of the people that's grown more than anybody

from the time he started to where he's at today, as far as music is concerned. He didn't know how to rap. You taught him out of rap. He's my hype man to where he's directing videos, do he had a job at Def Jam, to where he's doing albums. that I think right now people are respect to him

lyrically more than anything else. But it was about always helping people. Even Jewels, Juels was in a bad deal. He's in a group called The Draftics. I'm like, I think I like you a little better than your partner. I could get you out the deal. Let's try and get you out the deal.

Everybody on Witt has made money. Whether they kept money or didn't keep money, even other people that was on the label, which I won't name. It was always about putting everybody on and trying to make sure that they had a couple dollars because I didn't want people to have to ask me for money that I was around.

So even like this nigga back here, pink horse pound I'm glad he found this lane because he was running out of time. Listen to killer comedy show, man. Yes, man. Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it. No, thank you for coming.

Get your tickets if you haven't got it. And where can they order this at if they need to order it? You got to shake it before you give them to them too. You got shake it. I'm not sure you go to pink hyphen. horsepower.net is going to lead you to the new website because it's a new website. I don't know it off the top, but it directs you to the website. So ping hyphen horsepower.net and make sure you go

order something. That's right. And hold up. You said it's for men or it's for men. It's for men. I can take it to? No. No. So listen, the reason I was telling you, if you take it home, not for you to take. Right. Take it home to give it to my other. Okay. To your nigger. That's what I'm basically saying. But for the last thing, for the last thing, I'll say in this, not 100% close. Complex Con, if anybody's going to be out there in Vegas coming up, me and Sexie Red are doing a drop of horsepower

and whatever she got, I don't want to say the wrong name, but we're going to package it together. We're going to do a special drop for her sex pill for women. So we'll try and send you something because she has something for women. I got something for men, and then you can take sexy rights joint. Makes sense. All right, cool. Well, there you have it.

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