The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Chico Bean Talks 85 South, Katt Williams, Diddy, Women's Egos + More

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

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Starting point is 00:03:37 We got a special guest in the building. The brother Chico Bean. Yes, indeed. Oh, you know my name. I know your name, Chico. Stop it, man. Yeah, because the nigga downstairs called me Cisco Bean. I thought that was you oh man we got cisco bean down here i'm like nigga who the fuck is cisco bean y'all was in time for the uh we didn't want his comedy tour how
Starting point is 00:03:55 that's going man oh it's going smooth man it's dope you know we uh just did the barclays last night we did memphis this weekend biloxi so it's been dope man it's been dope especially in this time when all of the comedians are beefing. It shows camaraderie that is still love. And, you know, it's dope, man. Who's on the show? Myself, Los, Fly, Lord Duvall, D-Ray, Mike Epps, Mojo Brooks, and Moneybagg Mafia Dukes as well.
Starting point is 00:04:19 That's a nice balance. You got the OGs. You got the now. You know what I mean? They give you a lot of game yeah yeah for sure you know you we have relationships with these people already been as though we work with them but when you go on a tour it's a different level of access that you get you get to see how people move in a different capacity so we learn a lot from you know like d
Starting point is 00:04:37 ray and mike and duval and all that and then they also are learning certain aspects from us from the way that we move because you know all three of us come from doing this together all the time so it's just certain levels of camaraderie they see amongst us that they get to learn too so it's a dope dope experience hey i want to know what's next for 85 south man stop talking to me like you don't know me i don't know what's next for 85 let me get a job act like let me tell you about jess man let me tell you about fuck that i don't want to hear that let me tell you about jess look the day i tell you about, fuck that. I don't want to hear that. Let me tell you about Jess. Look, the day I buried my mama, right, I'm walking down the street. I'm walking down the street. Somebody's like,
Starting point is 00:05:09 Chico Bean. I'm like, hey, how you doing? She looked like, bitch ass nigga, you don't know who I am. And I looked and seen it was her. I'm like, oh my bad. It was a long day. Fast forward, her and her friend get out of the club drunk. They upstairs in my room eating my mama repaid food. You said you didn't want it. It was up there eating my mama
Starting point is 00:05:25 repay. I don't even know if she knew who died. She was like, I'm so sad about your sister. Can I get some more of that rice? Get some more of that rice, please. I don't know what's next for 85 cents. You got plenty more to talk about. You been letting people, nothing you and all that. What's going on? That's because I'm pregnant.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I know. That's how it happens. And ain't no people, nigga. It's one... Listen, it's my job. Don't play around. That's because I'm pregnant. I know. That's how it happens. And ain't no people, nigga. It's one... Listen, it's my job. Don't play around with me. That's who I want to get. Come on, Jess. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:51 We too free. You got your nails done. It look like COVID tests on your fingers. Free. I love it. Always. How you liking your new job? I'm loving my fucking job.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Let's see. There you go. That's what I need. I need that type of energy. Don't talk to me like no white woman with the hair around you. Yes, you can. All right. Let's what I need. I need that type of energy. Don't talk to me like no white woman. Yes, you can. Alright, let's try them off. Every time I try, I tell these two niggas to be up here. No, no, please, no.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Like, they be scared. Like, I'm on the spot. We gotta keep them away from her. They be talking over me, scared, sweating. I ain't never seen Sean Mayne sweat. I can't let her make the same mistakes I made, Chico. Yes, you can. You don't mind nobody else making them, nigga. Will you stop being a good person?
Starting point is 00:06:26 You and your bunk bed brother up here, that's why they scared. They think you're going to fuck their relationship up. They scared you. They let you get comfortable. You're going to fuck around the out that they go together up here, and that's going to be the problem. She gave us the name. She did that last year. She gave us the name.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Which name she give y'all? The Gusmans. The Gusmans? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? You did the bunk bed brothers. The bunk bed brothers, yeah. You know what I mean? You did the Bunk Band Brothers. The Bunk Band Brothers, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:46 You know what I mean? Now y'all, you know what I'm saying, designer women. Gave it Alan Grier and Gaming Wayans. That's who y'all is. You know what I'm saying? We up here. All right, Yosemite. What y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:06:57 What 85 South doing next? We doing everything. Damn. Damn. We doing everything. You know, we got the tour coming up right after this tour over we got the uh big business tour coming up and then you know we got the studio in atlanta so you know we producing shows you know doing all the good stuff that you're supposed to do when
Starting point is 00:07:13 you get the type of you know access that we got now i'm more interested in knowing what made you want to get a job i know you like you ain't the nine to five type person what made you want to work that's a fantastic question what made you want to work? That's a fantastic question. What made you want to work? The fact that being on a platform like this do amplify everything I got going on. Just because I'm pregnant now don't mean I ain't on no tour. I'm going to go into my special this year.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Nigga, this ain't my interview, but I'm telling you. Man, whatever. Nigga, what the fuck? It ain't no interview, nigga. I damn near work here too. All right, so we can't wait for a conversation.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah, this shit going to amplify everything that I'm doing. And then I'm also a benefit near work here too. So we can't wait for a conversation. Yeah, this shit gonna amplify everything that I'm doing. And then I'm also a benefit to this show too. And then I also always wanted to do this. Not to really do radio, but to have like, this is a Hall of Fame show y'all. Of course. This is huge.
Starting point is 00:08:00 This is a big opportunity for me. And it's like a, I look at it, like I said, in my mind, like a partnership. You know what I'm saying? Like I bring so much to this table. And at the same time, the things that I want to do, like sitcoms and movies and stuff that I'm actually writing and everything. I'm on one of the most listened, the most viewed, the world's most dangerous morning show. Like it ain't nobody that's not listening.
Starting point is 00:08:23 If they're not, they're going to get on. You know, because my voice is up here. You know what else I say, Chico? I remember back in the day, there was a period and people probably don't remember this, but there was a time where it was like all the comedians got an opportunity to do some type of syndicated radio.
Starting point is 00:08:36 That's why Steve ended up with a show. D.L. Hughley. D.L. Hughley. Ricky Smiley. Ricky Smiley. But,
Starting point is 00:08:41 but it was, it was also Monique had got an opportunity to do a syndicated show. I think some more. And Cedric didn't. I think some more had one. But definitely was also Monique had got an opportunity to do a syndicated show. I think some more. And Cedric didn't attain them. I think some more had one. But definitely DL, Ricky, Steve. So to me it's just a new generation of that. Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? I definitely feel the same way. That's why they got me in
Starting point is 00:08:58 Atlanta. I was mad about that. But just having the ability to be able to do this is difficult because that's why I'm so proud of you because getting up this early in the morning, this ain't your time. She on time every day. No, that's good.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I really do be on time. Yo, when I was guest hosting, I wasn't, but I wasn't getting paid. Yeah. I wasn't getting dressed. I'm all good.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So I'm here early bird though. No, I am, but I'm waking up, but I ain't never like get up to be nowhere right exactly i have to leave out the host at five like between 5 and 5 15 that's what it is and then still be pretty and then come ahead and and you know good morning i'm just hilarious like it's not just it's really not as easy as people think it is i already know i talked to him when they was trying to give me
Starting point is 00:09:39 the job in atlanta for radio he was like nigga you sure you want to do this it's a lot to come with it and you know i went to school for it, so I'm prepared for it. But still, it's a hell of a commitment to make. So salute to you, Jess. And I don't know why y'all fake like she wasn't hired up here doing all that goofy shit on social media. Who I did was that. You ain't tricked me. I knew the whole time.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I knew what it was because Jess had a quinceanera when she was wearing a dress. First of all, that was a goddamn party. Ain't nowhere in the world no black woman wasted no dress like that that was not my party that was a holiday party and I had told my homeboy Dave I was like yo I got it and he went up there
Starting point is 00:10:13 and said something and then he was like yo you the third host right and I went up there and I was like ah damn I'm not supposed to say that right now but you know what I'm gonna say it anyway and I said it or whatever. So what am I? Quinceanera. It was my part.
Starting point is 00:10:27 You wouldn't have wasted that dress. I know that. No, I just be looking good anyway. Stop acting like I don't be out here really putting on. Listen, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I came up here for.
Starting point is 00:10:36 That's what I came up here for. Y'all got my uncle up here acting like she ain't my uncle. Nigga, stop playing with me. What the hell? But let me, let me ask both of y'all comedians because i didn't speak to jess about this with time so sensitive right like they were about to cancel charlamagne
Starting point is 00:10:50 for saying big back i've been canceled forever i'm canceled i've been canceled do you i'm a zombie do you have to be extra careful when both of y'all doing comedy now when y'all do it because everybody got a phone out that's why that's why dave everybody gotta take their phone and chris everybody gotta take their phone do y'all are extra sensitive when it comes to people because you know you say the wrong thing or you offend the wrong person today, you cancel them off? Well, like I say, it's maliciousness in my mind. If I'm not being malicious, then I can care less how somebody feels about something that I say. Now, if I'm being malicious, then, of course, I think that energy is going to cause you to have to have some backlash because you're just being mean. But if you're back big and I say you're back big, you got a big back.
Starting point is 00:11:28 What's mean now though? What's mean now? Because before you could say, you know, it's jokes. But now people take jokes as it's messing up my mental. I can't take it no more. I'm thinking about, but it's jokes. I mean, we've been all joked. You've joked on me. We joked on you. We joked on Charlamagne. I mean, everybody's not prepared to be able to have whatever their flaws are put out in front of the world. So you got to understand, like when people hear certain things about themselves, they already have insecurities about whatever said thing is. And if you have the ability to point it out in a way where people are laughing at it externally, their internal pain that they have is just going to come out. And now we live in a time where everybody has the access to be able to express themselves in a way that didn't exist 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So now if somebody was offended at a Dave Chappelle show in 1997, you had to write a letter. You had to go get up out your bed and go stand in front of somewhere and protest. Now you got to do is have Wi-Fi. So it's just easier for people to be offended now. I think that's the thing. If you had to still be offended the old way, a lot of people wouldn't be as offended as they are about simple shit. I don't want to apologize. I just want to ask the same thing.
Starting point is 00:12:30 How do you feel? Because you do stand-up as well, and you go to the thing, and it's easy to get you because you're on the show. Yeah, definitely. On the stage, I'm going to talk about any and everything. I don't care. I mean, because that's my safe place. And if you bought tickets to see me, you already know how my mouth is. You're setting yourself up. You know what I mean? because that's my safe place. And if you bought tickets to see me, you already know how my mouth is. You're setting yourself up.
Starting point is 00:12:45 You know what I mean? Like, especially. But I'm also not one of those comedians who crack on people in the audience or whatever. Now, if you heckling me and you happen to be big or ugly or are you going to get that? You know what I'm saying? But I talk about things that I can't talk about, of course, on the radio. And that I wouldn't talk about online just because I already know what it's going to bring. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:08 But on the stage, it don't matter. I ain't going to take your phone. You can record if you want. That's my show. That's my stage. The venue is like, that's mine at that point. So y'all can feel how y'all want if y'all catch it at a show. But I'm not going to say it online.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And I'm not going to say it on the radio. Have you said anything you regret, Chico? I saw Jess was on the pivot. She said she regretted the Chadwick Boseman comments. I know what I said, yo. I'm just telling it for the audience that's listening. See, that's why you got to talk to these niggas the way you got to talk to them.
Starting point is 00:13:35 They be slick. Yeah, because Jess said that she do it. Yeah, Jess be doing it. They be slick. They be trying to get away with shit, man. You got to check them every time. But no, you know what I'm lying. I regret some of the things i said about your skin that was wrong i mean i regret some of those things man you know i mean because i don't want him to get stressed out and wake back up with the you know the hamburglar circles around his eyes again you
Starting point is 00:14:00 know i mean yeah i don't want him to have to go through that and i know that was a rough period where you having to sit under that machine and get cooked every day. And I just was just coming in here making fun of you and all of that. And DJ, I regret some of the things I've said about you too, man. You know what I mean? I said you was out here allegedly selling halfway houses, and that's not fair. That's not fair that I even would say something like that about you.
Starting point is 00:14:23 You're a good person, and most people don't know that. So I just want to apologize to both of y'all. And out in y'all relationship like that. Like don't nobody know y'all sleep naked together in between breaks. So, I mean, those things are things that I regret. So, yes, I apologize to both of y'all. Thank you. Thanks, Chico.
Starting point is 00:14:41 We apologize. Accepted. No problem. How has shit changed since y'all went number one onico we apologize accepted no problem how has shit changed since y'all went number one on netflix uh it hasn't really no not not in the way that you would think that going number one on the billboard would you know i'm saying did you have an expectation once you saw that no no i don't think we had an expectation because we are independent so it's just certain things that come with you know being independent so it's you know it gave us a level
Starting point is 00:15:03 of visibility that we didn't have like i went to ghana you know i was in ghana and i'm sure like the reckoning recognition that i got when i was over there a lot of that came from that being available but as far as us being in a position we're like now we number one and you know we gotta you know start doing things differently or now we get to work less because it's made things easier for us no that hasn't happened we're appreciative of it but we still got the same drive that we had before it happened. So no Hollywood came knocking anything like that? No, I don't even know what you mean. The way you asked that question, I know it's a follow-up question coming out.
Starting point is 00:15:34 There's too much going on. I know you, man. Hollywood ain't come knocking. Hollywood ain't come knocking. You already know. You ain't get invited to that 1 o'clock party. Did he ask you to host it? I told you.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I told you. I told you. I told you. I knew it was coming, man. I know this nigga. You had three movies. What happened? You had three movies or something? Yeah, I knew it was coming.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Now you won't trick me up here, man. I'm too prepared for y'all, man. And I know you ain't ask me about a nigga y'all still got a picture of in the hallway. Like, y'all tripping. Listen, I feel like you cannot, um... Number one, it is all allegations number one right and number two you still can't take away what people did like i mean like come on man
Starting point is 00:16:11 stop listening to bad boy records i mean hey i i went through this with the the other one i'm i don't even know if we can say this oh well you said it so yeah you know i mean we went through the same thing because you know i always ask people when it come to that, the age ain't nothing but a number come out before I believe I can fly. It did. Yet I still sung. I believe I can fly my elementary school graduation. So who was responsible for letting kids all across America sing a song in churches and schools that was written by a man who was allegedly married to a 14 year old girl and made her sing the song? So, you know, you just think about the way that people, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:45 can be offended now, you know what I'm saying? Like I think it's to a point where we don't know how to separate our lives from the celebrity of people. Like I don't have time to worry about anybody else's problems because I got my own, so that's what I focus on. But music is music. People's art is people's art. And people, you know, always ask me when i talk
Starting point is 00:17:05 about this like i talk about it on stage and people like well what if that was your daughter i said well if it was my daughter she wouldn't have been in no grown man house without me doing a motherfucking thing like i'm not sending my daughter to no grown man house to do nothing for whatever reason i don't care how good she sing or how good he can produce beats or whatever i'm not doing that so i think that it's a know, just a character flaw that we have as a people where we just get so invested in everybody else because it gives people the opportunity to deflect what they need to do in their own lives to
Starting point is 00:17:31 make themselves better. You know what I'm saying? Same thing with the Cosby show. I mean, the Cosby show has inspired a lot of black people to go to college, inspired a lot of black people's family life, but they took it off air because of... And it's just art. Like, that's art. Now, in the case of R. Kelly, I air because and it's just art like that's art now in the case of r kelly i understand because a lot of his art bled into his music but i think what
Starting point is 00:17:51 you just said is is true jay goes not like people didn't know what was going on yeah people definitely knew what was going on i mean and not only did they know that it was a tape like a whole tape surface like i mean and not only did we know we laughed about it like you remember dave chappelle see rolling around sitting on dubs can't because i was houndstruck cruising in my escalade damn i'm paid i got it may take me to your special place turn around show me your face okay i'm gonna piss on it like that was a boom doc that's what i would stop jesse i would stop just right there no i'm just saying. We all made R. Kelly jokes. We all talked about it.
Starting point is 00:18:26 So I just think that the timing, you know, everything is timing. You got to think about it like this. The Etch-A-Sketch was the iPad at one point. So the way technology moves, everything is progressing in a way that, you know, it's going to make whatever it was that was the old God irrelevant. And it's not going to take anywhere near as long now because how fast things move. So you got to just be careful with what you do now,
Starting point is 00:18:48 but you don't need to, you know, I don't think as long as you're not normally hurting yourself, anybody else, man, do what you want to do out here. And by the way, we was making jokes about Diddy way before all of this happened.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Partying jokes about Diddy. Since he did the interview on drink champs with Nora. And he was like, we ain't party. Party, party, party, party.
Starting point is 00:19:05 We've been making those jokes. And I think that y'all two are great people to speak on that because y'all have been famous way longer than me and Jess has. You know what I mean? DJ Envy, you done been at the party for a long time. I never party party though. What does that mean? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:19 But you gotta know what it means. You didn't party party with him. I didn't party. What's the second party? I don't party. What's the second part? I don't know. That's the part. But don't skip that. Don't skip that.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Don't skip that. Like, just this nigga. Jess, why you be letting these niggas get away with this shit? How much they paying you, man? I know. They paying me a lot. You're a lot. But what I'm saying is, like, yo, that's funny that you said that because the other day,
Starting point is 00:19:44 they, one of them you uh envy had asked charlamagne he was like did anybody ever try to like do something you will make a pass at you like you know to be famous something like that and and he stood up like you'll stop playing he came with that energy like it may have happened and then he stood up and he was like well we can go new for new because he was like yeah i said no but i know yeah because they know you ain't been cheating on me but ain't nobody say nothing and i just i was quiet because i was waiting for something to come out but you know they smart they've been doing this for a lot way longer than me and he came up in new york in the 90s what that mean you know what that mean
Starting point is 00:20:19 what do you mean new york in the 90s was the wild wild west let's go listen to the lyrics i was only like 12 i was only like 12 14 at that age i wasn't that old and that was a nice was the Wild Wild West. Just go listen to the lyrics. Go listen to the lyrics on your favorite rappers from New York in the 90s. I wasn't that old. That was a nice ripe age. No, that was the age. Ripe, ripe, ripe. What'd you meet Clue? Clue's my neighbor.
Starting point is 00:20:34 He lived across the street from me. I ain't asking, not asking no details. I said, when'd you meet him? In the 90s. All right. So how old was you? I don't know, why?
Starting point is 00:20:40 See, 90s, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying, Scream? Yeah, I mean, but you gotta understand his name, DJ Envy, man. You know how En? Yeah, exactly. Why? Team Scream? Yeah, I mean, but you gotta understand, his name DJ Envy, man,
Starting point is 00:20:46 you know how Envy is, man, Envy is very sensitive. I think he picked that name because a nigga beat him in a DJ competition in the third grade and he still ain't got over it yet
Starting point is 00:20:55 because he could have been DJ Experience or DJ Popularity or DJ anything. He chose DJ Envy just to let you know what type of time he on, man.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Are you gonna do a solo special? Yeah, I mean, eventually, you know what I mean time he on, man. Are you going to do a solo special? Yeah, I mean, eventually. You know what I mean? That's like I said, I've never been one to rush that type of, you know, thing because, you know, your art is your art. And, you know, I always move at my own pace. You know what I'm saying? And I think that now with the ability that people have to just put things out, you know, I think that we've lost a lot of substance in that regard. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like whenever you put something out, these know, I think that we've lost a lot of substance in that regard. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:25 And I feel like whenever you put something out, these bodies of work will live forever. So I want to have one of them ones where when you look at it now and whether you look at it now or you look at it in 10 years, it still resonates. You know, the Mike Epps underrated, never faded. You know what I mean? The Corey Holcomb, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:42 You the problems. The, you know, Earthquake About Damn Times. Dave Chappelle is killing them softly. You know what I mean? These Corey Holcomb, you know what I mean? You the problems, the, you know, earthquake about damn times. Dave Chappelle is killing them softly. You know what I mean? These are specials that are timeless to me. So when I watch those, those are the things that I base it on. And I never really had the, you know, the desire to just say, I'm going to do it just so I can say I got that notch under my belt. Because like I said, we live in a different time now. It's not even as necessary as it was back in the day. You think 20 years ago, everybody wanted to be on HBO. Now it's Netflix. So it's just a matter of you finding the pocket that you need to be in before you put something out to the world. Because I feel like you can damage yourself a whole lot more with the level of criticism that can come with not even I don't even want to say criticism because I don't want to make it seem like it's a negative thing, but just the level of access that people have to be able to look at something and move right on to the next thing it's very difficult to get somebody to sit with a piece of work and just really understand and sit with it so my mentality is always make sure that by the
Starting point is 00:22:34 time i get it it's a body of work that is going to live forever so you know i don't even know if i'll be thinking about like the energy of stand-up like i like going to pay to go see a stand-up show right because you know the people that pay to go see a stand-up show they're actual stand-up. Like, I like going to pay to go see a stand-up show, right? Because you know the people that pay to go see a stand-up show, they're actual stand-up fans. When I'm watching it on TV nowadays, I don't get that same energy no more. Like, when I see somebody do a stand-up special.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I like what y'all did with the 85 South Show live because I'm used to that energy. I'm used to watching y'all do the podcast every day. So my mind is kind of conditioned for that as opposed to conditioned to watching somebody
Starting point is 00:23:03 just on stage telling jokes. Why do you think that is? I don't know. Maybe this is the era we live in yeah i think that you got it right i mean you think about celebrity and what it is like i talk to people now who i grew up watching you know i'm saying and and having these conversations my one of my first line of questioning is what was it like to be famous for real because now now the access that we have to people, if I was the biggest Martin fan in the world, I love Martin, but if I wanted to talk to him, I would have had to write a letter, send a letter off, hope somebody got the letter, wrote me a letter back.
Starting point is 00:23:35 The process was way longer. So it was a disconnect that is not there now. Somebody want to talk to me or Jess or you or, you know what I mean? All they got to do is pick their phone up and go on a picture I posted and say whatever it is they feel so the access right is completely different so now when you think about somebody coming to see you they feel like they already know who you are based off of your social media you know I mean they know the foods you eat they know what you wore yesterday so when they come see you live the energy that you're supposed to give or get you got to make sure that you give that in a way where people are feeling like
Starting point is 00:24:06 they're getting something that they can't get from any of the other platforms that we have to make people feel like they know us but also what makes y'all different to me is y'all do like raw on the spot comedy that's different y'all don't get to see that neither and I don't care there's no other
Starting point is 00:24:21 stand up special on Netflix HBO that I've seen in a long ass time Like, I don't care. There's no other stand-up special on Netflix, HBO, that I've seen in a long-ass time where it's like, y'all three niggas, like, y'all just, it could be like 40, if y'all don't go to a parade, y'all don't even know what y'all going to talk about. Not at all. And it's on the spot.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Comedy is raw. It's like, that's what make, honestly, Wild N' Out fun. Right. Watching y'all just pick people and then the chemistry y'all bounce off of each other it's like I don't know that's that's that's different yeah especially in this time y'all don't care what y'all say no
Starting point is 00:24:53 and it's that's the reason why is because we understand that it's never been done before in the way that we're doing it you see now with the climate of comedy and the way that all of the OGs are beefing and going back and forth like we need Batman out this bitch now the way these niggas is going back and forth but one of the things that i think is the case and low said this to me years used to say this years ago all the time because he's the you know our elder in the as far as the group he's the og amongst us
Starting point is 00:25:17 he was like man these niggas don't like each other they hate each other they can't stand each other why do you think it's bubbling now though i mean because you know once cat came out and did that interview it just shook the game up it was just one of those things that shook the game up you know i mean i think that you know truth is subjective i say this all the time because what's true to you is a lie to somebody else but if somebody tells their truth all of the people that he was you know speaking on they received that and they had you know it's like this is back room you know green room comedy talk that was you know gave on they received that and they had you know it's like this is back room you know green room comedy talk that was you know gave to the world so once that happened now you got these back room conversations that have been happening for years now you got them coming to the forefront
Starting point is 00:25:55 so all of these conversations that these people probably have been having in green room since the early 90s now it's like all right well nigga i will fuck you well fuck me fuck you too then and you know now i think that's just what happened but i mean for as far as we go our generation we love each other like we really got genuine love does it help or does it hurt does it does it push you to to be better or does it say f the comedy game because i can't work with this person no we don't have that element you know we don't have that element at least not that i've experienced you know i'm sure there's probably some people who don't get along or don't like each other but like i said it's too easy to get in contact with somebody now if i had a problem
Starting point is 00:26:32 with somebody in 1995 it might be a little difficult for me to get a number on them or get in contact with them now if you got a problem with somebody it's very easy to get in contact with them so i don't think we even had that element the level of disconnect between artists has shrunk so much that our generation we really you know we really fuck with each other you know i'm saying like this is my uncle like i love her to death you know i'm saying without because the way she treat me she treat me like an uncle like every time i see her she cuts me out like an uncle and all it like it's genuine though like you know i mean like i love jess like we all do because we came up together you know we all was broke together trying to figure this thing out and i don't think a lot of them had that same element when they was all broke they was all trying to get the same spot we know now that there's more spots available than just one you see
Starting point is 00:27:18 that with the 85 south show it's three people who are now on a tour with the we didn't want to all individually doing sets all coming out by herself all you know got our own face up on the screen like everybody was aspiring to do in the 90s but now we're able to do that and then double right back and come on stage together and then double right back and go do a wild and out and then double right back and you know meet up with jess and do something with her because as we realize now the opportunity is there to do whatever it is you want to do. You don't have to all fight for that one spot
Starting point is 00:27:47 but I think that's what causes the OGs that had a problem. They still fighting for a spot that really don't even exist no more. But it's so weird because all of them making money. All of these people we talking about. I mean that's what you assume. You never know. You know what I mean? You gotta know the reality of how the game works. You never know what. You can make money but
Starting point is 00:28:03 I don't know how many people are able to keep it. know that's the hard part keeping the money is the hard part you can make it all day but you never know how people feel about the fact that an opportunity let's just say figuratively speaking i wanted this job and just got it like that could be a you know it can be held against her for years without her even knowing that a nigga mad at her but once it come out you know i mean that's i think that's the way that they operated back in the day for some reason i've been blessed in the game with most of my ogs and the people that i met have embraced me but i've heard horror stories because you know they got that old god you know they feel like oh if i embrace you or give you some love then that mean
Starting point is 00:28:43 that i'm going to diminish my light and my star so we don't really have that type of interaction with each other amongst our generation because i think that we know that you know it ain't gonna do you no good to be beefing like that now mind you seeing the ogs go back and forth it's been interesting just because i'm still a fan i you know i've been watching y'all nicks as i was a little boy so now i'm like oh you ain't never liked him. Man. You know what I'm saying? So I can't lie about it being interesting, just being a part of the game.
Starting point is 00:29:11 But, you know, I don't think that it's good for us. It might work for them. But I think the internet, the combination of the way the internet has changed things, like I don't think that they really embraced it, a lot of them, really embraced it in a way that way it's not detrimental. So now you got all this access and you feel like you gotta let people into a space if you've been famous since the 90s like you know i mean you you you can hold secrets a lot more i know you know envy you know i'm saying like you've been to the second party you've been to the second party the first party
Starting point is 00:29:40 the party party party was cool but that party party i don't know i mean exactly you this is harder to keep that secret now man how'd you feel when cat william shouted you up uh you know what's the party party party was cool but that party party i don't know i mean exactly it's harder to keep that secret now man how'd you feel when cat william shouted you up uh you know what's crazy man uh my daughter man salute to my baby who has had a promotion who has a youtube channel that she just started man so i gotta plug that man my baby then started her youtube channel i'm so proud of her man so make sure you subscribe to pierce chanel but um i was in africa i was in ghana when the interview came out that's how goofy my daughter is like i'm in africa and you know my first thought when i seen it i was like man hope this nigga don't say nothing about me because you know i
Starting point is 00:30:15 mean once i seen what he was saying because you know over there the internet access is different so i couldn't really watch it so my daughter facetimes me she like daddy you seen the cat williams interview i was like i seen clips of it baby she was like you know he said your name your heart i said what he say she said find out when you get back to america that was a good tease that was a good listen man i'm like yo what did he say but then my manager man she sent me the clip and I seen it you know he was a positive thing and I was thankful and grateful because you know the first time I met Kat was at a Wild N Out show in Las Vegas we had when we was on the one of the first Wild N Out tours and prior to him coming to Wild N Out to actually do the show which was just last
Starting point is 00:31:04 year when we first got on because you know we was the you know Out to actually do the show, which was just last year, when we first got on, because, you know, we was the reincarnation of the show when it came back in 2013. And when I tell you from our first season probably all the way up to, like, our fifth or sixth season, they was talking about Cat like this nigga was the boogeyman. Like, every time, Cat might be coming. Remember when Mad Dog was coming on Martin?
Starting point is 00:31:25 Like, that's how they would talk about Cat like hey guys i'm kate max you might know me from my popular online series the running interview show where i run with celebrities athletes entrepreneurs and more after those runs the conversations keep going that's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all.
Starting point is 00:32:17 It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So, y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, my little creeps. It's your favorite ghost host, Teresa.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And guess what? Haunting is back, dropping just in time for spooky season. Now, I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane, wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories. Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you. Let's just say things get a bit extra. We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete. You know how much I love this time of
Starting point is 00:34:31 year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend. So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board, just don't call me unless it's urgent, and tune in for new episodes every week. Remember, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky, and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you come in here, don't be afraid. So I'm like, man, what is this nigga going to do? The way that the perception was just like is this nigga gonna do like the way that
Starting point is 00:35:05 the perception was just like this nigga was just gonna come in and kill everybody but you know and that kind of i would say built up a level of you know uh nervousness about actually interacting with him because the way that the narrative was being said about him but me being the type of person i am after a certain point i was just like man whatever you know whatever it's gonna be it's gonna be so by the time we actually met he came to the this is right after he won uh emmy so this you know i'm hearing stories about him in the building because we doing an arena so i'm hearing stories the cat showed up with the emmy and the louis vuitton bag cat was smoking two cigarettes at the same time and it was just like man where is this nigga i gotta find him and say hello so i my creative process i walk
Starting point is 00:35:45 around and talk to myself and get my jokes together i don't really write shit down so as i'm on one of my missions get my shit together it seemed like he was on the same one and i ran into him and i was like hey man cat how you doing man my name chico man it's a pleasure to meet you he said nigga don't disrespect me everybody knows you and walked away i was like oh i don't know if that was a good or positive interaction. You know, that's what it was. And then we ended up having a conversation sitting outside of the hotel. He just happened to be walking his dog and I talked to him and this nigga is brilliant and he showed nothing but love. He was gracious in every aspect and letting us know that, you know, letting me know at that time how much of a fan he was and how much he appreciated what I had brought to the show and the elements of the show that you know he I reminded him of himself at that time so
Starting point is 00:36:30 just like I said I've been blessed in the game that when I've met the OGs they've embraced me you know I'm saying so being as though he did that interview I just look at it like he told his truth whatever you you know I mean you tell your, people are going to receive it whatever way they receive it. But he told his truth, man. So, you know what I mean? I think that it was good for the game in that regard, but it was bad for the game in regards to the way it set fire up under the OGs. Have any comedians like ever stolen your jokes? Not just jokes nowadays.
Starting point is 00:37:00 You got a podcast and you do interviews. So they hear your POV. You might be saying some funny shit just talking yeah you see people make memes and all that type of stuff but you know you i look at it like if you steal something from me that means that's the best you can do it's not the best i can do you know i'm saying if you take something you can you know it depending on who it is and if it's somebody that i have a relationship with or that I know, then we got a problem because you blatantly being disrespectful. But I've seen people do my stuff all the time, but it don't bother me because I'm not restricted to that joke that you took.
Starting point is 00:37:33 It was just a part of what it is that I, you know, have experienced. And then the type of person that, you know, the way I've learned the game is you do my shit. I'm gonna go up right behind you and do it the way it's supposed to be done. So it's just a way of looking at it but I don't think that you know that's something that would bother me because you know I'm I'm really on stage telling my truth that's one thing I love about Jess's stand-up like Jess we did a show what was that in Vegas we did that show together at the Mirage yeah we co-headlined the show at the Mirage and you can just tell that you know that was my first time seeing Jess perform in a while but just her freedom
Starting point is 00:38:06 on stage you can't be Jess hilarious you know I mean even if you take it you can't do it like her because this is her real life she talking about so it's the same way with me like you can say some shit I said but you ain't live it like I lived it so it's not going it's not going to hit the same that's right that's the most that's what I'm excited to
Starting point is 00:38:21 see like because you were doing stand up for a while but you saw how things change once the podcast took off the people could tune into you most, that's what I'm excited to see. Like, cause you was doing standup for a while, but you saw how things changed once the podcast took off. The people could tune into you every week. That's what I'm excited about. Even with Jess, I want to see how like the people react that come to see her stand up now cause they hear her every morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I mean all the way. And I know she going to have a lot to talk about being up here with y'all. Like this type of shit. You're going to see up here. You know what I'm writing. Wait till you see him praying naked. Like that shit crazy. That don't happen. Yes, they, yes, they, y'all you're going to see up here. Wait till you see him praying naked. Like, that shit crazy. That don't happen.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Yes, they, yes, they, y'all. Listen, I heard this story. It's an allegation, allegedly, man. Allegedly. But I heard they get butt naked and pray in the morning. You know what I mean? Disgusting. Yeah, see, that's what they say.
Starting point is 00:38:57 That's what they say y'all do. That's what they say y'all do. I don't know who they is, but it's the same person that threw the second party. You know what I mean? That's who made that up you know i mean i don't know nothing is your daughter telling you what she wants to do yes yes all the way she's 15 15 now damn yeah she's getting up there man but she's very very you know very clear about the things she wants to get into and you know for me it's an honor to be
Starting point is 00:39:22 able to provide her with the level of opportunity that I never got because I didn't have my father. My father was gone. So there's a 50 percent of of a helpmate that I never got to receive. So my you know, it brings me joy to be able to help her skip a lot of the parts of the game that I knew that, you know, I had to go through just because I didn't know no better. You know, I mean, like she's I'm her springboard, like stand like stand on my shoulders baby so you can see better because that's what I'm doing this for and the fact that she is you know wants to be in the entertainment and wants to be you know an actress and all of those things like it it helps me to know that I'm doing the thing out here that can help her get past just on namesake you know I mean when she show up the fact that she is who she is is going to mean something that brings me the greatest joy, because I know that if I would
Starting point is 00:40:09 have had that, then I probably would have been able to get to the greatness a whole lot quicker than I did having to figure it out and create my own blueprint without help. You know what I'm saying? So she, she's really, really excited about her YouTube. You know, we had talked about it. And like I said, I don't lie to my daughter. We keep it, you know, we have conversations that are direct. I know people say you're not supposed to keep it. You know, we have conversations that are direct. I know people say you're not supposed to be friends with your child, but I think that's another old mentality. I mean, I think that's an old narrative, because if you're not, you've got to think about the access that these kids have now and the things that they are up against. Like I wasn't when I was her age, I didn't have to compete with every other 15 year old's highlight reel.
Starting point is 00:40:43 You know, I mean, I didn't have to compete with every other 15 year olds highlight reel. Hey, you know, I mean, I didn't have to compete with a highlight reel I didn't have to go on on a Device and be able to see what all the niggas on the other side of the city was doing it and all the niggas that went To every school was doing so they under a different level of pressure So you got to make sure that you in my opinion you got to make sure that you are at a point with your children Where they're not afraid to let you know what's going on That's right When you not around and when you not looking because you open they open to a whole different
Starting point is 00:41:08 level of criticism than we are you know so once i had the conversation with her about what comes with what it is that she wants to embark upon i was able to see that she has a genuine understanding of it because of the way and the level that we communicate on she's not afraid to tell me what she's really feeling and you know that's a blessing too because when i was her age like for example i baby don't be mad at me for telling this story but i gotta tell her just to you know give context um you know she got a boyfriend you know i mean yeah i blew a six foot six to 20 15 years old star football player yeah are you scared of him a little bit you got me fucked bit you got me fucked up i ain't scared of nobody i mean except for the second party i'm scared i'm terrified of the second party let's just get that out there while we up here
Starting point is 00:41:55 but um you know she wanted you know he came over to the house and they baked cookies and you know was down in my you know theater room watching tv you know i got cameras all in my house or whatever so you know i can see what they was doing and the most egregious thing that this 15 year old boy did was just rub my baby a little too affectionately now mind you just out of protocol i got on the camera like hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey i can see y'all nigga hey hey that's exactly how they look like nigga what is the god i'm like yeah I can see y'all, nigga. Hey, hey. That's exactly how they look. Like, nigga, what? Is it God? I'm like, yeah, I can see y'all. What is y'all doing? But, you know, in reality, I was proud of the fact that I know that this little girl is a better human being than I am.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Because at 15 years old, if Wanda, God rest her soul, would have had cameras in her house, she would have went to jail. She would have went to jail for the shit that I was doing in her house at 15 years old. Because the the way that our minds worked at that time, we were so much more advanced with shit because we actually had to go outside and be amongst the elements. We had to be amongst all of the things that were going on in our environment. So it caused us to mature so much faster in real time. They have the same level of access, but it's just on the phone. So they have a better ability to be able to make the decision.
Starting point is 00:43:10 You know what I mean? It's a clear decision for them. It wasn't a clear decision for me and Jess' generation because we were just like, I feel like this is what I got to do because I'm by myself and the door closed. Now they get to make a decision and say, okay, is this right or is this wrong to do in a way that we never got the opportunity to do? So to see my daughter make the right decision made me proud to know that, okay, she's a better person than I am because
Starting point is 00:43:31 ain't no way in the world. What is this, second generation internet people? Maybe third? So even with y'all, y'all didn't realize that the internet was going to have the consequences, the people's futures that it does now. So they even, your daughter, my daughter, they got to look at it totally different now too.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yeah, I mean, the crazy part is I'm still using the internet the same way I did when it first came out. Porn. That's all I mean. Pornography. That was it. Now I just ain't got to get off the phone to watch it. You know what I'm saying? You used to have to get off the phone to use the internet back in the day. Now it because that's you know what I'm saying you used to have to get off the phone
Starting point is 00:44:05 to use the internet back in the day now it's just accessible but you know I think that forward thinking like now it is what it is but in 10 years what is it going to be you know I don't know if y'all seen that Apple vision that came out y'all used it yeah I got one of those
Starting point is 00:44:20 why you say that with a think pad and not an Apple computer. Everybody know what an Apple Vision is. No, they don't. I've just realized that he got that old-ass computer, Jess. Good job. A lot of good luck on this computer. A lot of good data.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I had this for 14 years. You had that computer for 14 years. They ain't selling them now. She said they ain't selling them now. Hell no, they ain't selling them now unless you go to a pawn shop. That's what it no, they ain't selling them now. Unless you go to a pawn shop. That's what it is. That game is for real. I know.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Boy, you talking about secrets. Ain't no telling what's in that computer. Go in his history. See what he looked up. I'll show you some stuff. It's crazy. It is kind of crazy. I don't want to see it.
Starting point is 00:44:57 See, that's why I say stop. Look. He's like, stop, stop, stop, stop. I never know. I never know. It reminds me of when I first moved to New York. What was I on? And I can see it. Just by looking. I'll show you. I'll show you after the interview. No reminds me of when I first moved to New York. What was I on? And I can see it just by looking.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I'll show you. I'll show you after the interview. No, don't show me after the interview. I want to see DJ Envy naked. So back to your Apple vision. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, a lot of Michael Kors bags. I'll tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:45:19 For real? That's how Michael Kors. Yeah, he was at the outlet for sure. They don't even sell the bags in the real store. You had to go to the Tanger Outlets to get the Michael Kors bag. That's crazy. But you were talking about the Apple Vision. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 You didn't have it. You didn't have Apple Vision. You had Michael Kors Vision. That's what you had. But no, I say that to say it's a dope, like, you know, look into the the future because you put this on your face and it's your phone on your face right you know i mean everything that you can do on your phone you can do on this machine and you can walk around with it on the only thing is now you know it's so expensive that you're just gonna look like an asshole walking around with it on but the reality is this is the future like this is the the beta version of this machine so this is basically the
Starting point is 00:46:07 nintendo of the future so you think about what the nintendo was versus what the ps5 is right so by the time you know our kids get to be our age this shit is going to be irrelevant like you know i mean it's going to be a heirloom you know i'm saying it's going to be a ancient item like oh man i remember i had one in big bulky ass things by the time you know in 10 years it's gonna be something you can just sit on your face and walk around with and talk to people everywhere you know i mean it's it's crazy how much technology has advanced just in our lifetime you know i'm saying so i just had a foresight to know that in 10 if you ain't access you ain't got access to your kids man they gonna have way more access to do shit that, you know, could potentially damage them.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Because, you know what I mean? You got these kids now. I ask teachers all the time when I be doing shows, like, you know, what's the craziest thing you've seen in the classroom? Because I remember how wild we was. And they were just like, man, you know, they sending naked pictures and videos and all of that type of stuff. And it's just like, you know, in my mind, I'm like, yeah, that sound crazy now. Cause they doing it. But imagine if we had the internet in the two thousands,
Starting point is 00:47:10 you know what I mean? Ain't no telling Jess, if you had the internet in the 2000, I'm asking, see, that's what I mean. That let me know what type of time he was on. You was in Baltimore eating crab cakes.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And I already know what time it would have been. Cause I might've came to see you in 2007 if I'd have known, you know, what I know now. But you've been bluffing for years. Ain't nobody been bluffing. Ain't nobody been bluffing. Ain't nobody been bluffing. Ain't nobody been bluffing.
Starting point is 00:47:39 How's yours? I'm good. I'm pregnant and I'm happy now. So what's up? I mean, I don't understand why you coming at me like that no no no no he was scared
Starting point is 00:47:51 what was I scared of tell me what I was scared of he just wasn't with it when I first got the wildin out I was like oh my gosh I like this nigga he quiet and shit like he ain't all all over the place like you, he ain't wildin'. They get up, pickin' and killin'.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Whatever that shit is. That wasn't even out when I first got there. That was a later game. Yeah, that was a later game. Yeah, so, I, you know, I tried to throw some game on him. But he was like, oh, don't you have a boyfriend? I'm like, who the fuck be worried about that? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:48:20 Me? Yeah, right. I come from out the ghetto, niggas. I tell you about a Jessalarius in my hood. You know what I mean? I don't play them games. My boyfriend, he wasn who? Yeah, right. I come from out the ghetto. Niggas are kidding you about a Jess and Larry. It's in my hood. You know what I mean? I get it. But I don't play them games.
Starting point is 00:48:27 My boyfriend, he wasn't that type of nigga. So that's the thing. What type of nigga was he? That's why. Yeah, I did. That's why I was going at that chick. I'm like, okay, nah, you cool. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:36 He quiet. He low. Right, right, right. But he really, like, funny. Like, he down to earth. I'm like, all right, cool. So I told him that I broke up with him. I told him that I broke up with my boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Did you really do it or you lied? Didn't be. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Did I lie? Yeah. I did. I let like a week go by and I was like, what's up now?
Starting point is 00:48:55 We broke up. I was acting sad and everything. I was like, I'm like sad. Like, what's up now? He was like, you didn't break up with him. Like, no, you didn't. And I didn't. But I'm like, this nigga gay.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Like, how you not? You see how fucked up that is? You see that fucked up? Just because you don't want that pussy, I don't want none. That's crazy. That's crazy. I was like, all right, he just going to be a brother at this point. Yeah, because you got to understand, you know, I got to be very selective with any woman I deal with because of the perspective that i have and how i live i'm
Starting point is 00:49:29 you're not about to come at me not saying that you would have did this but i know you would have just because i know you who you are you just that type of person that you're gonna flash out but you're not gonna be the only woman that i'm dealing with right and that's so i have to be very very careful with who i let into the way that i operate like i say all the time i make the outside of my house ugly because if you can't get i'm gonna leave with all of the shit that you're gonna judge a man or i'm gonna let you know these things about me immediately so you got a choice to make but when you can see the type of person that a person is i'm like there ain't nobody about to be fighting with you at the
Starting point is 00:50:03 cheesecake factory because you mad about the fact that I didn't do something that I told you I was doing. She's the type of motherfucker that's going to act like you ain't never told her that shit. I know what you said, bitch, but I wasn't listening. It just wouldn't have worked. But don't make it seem like I was scared because I wasn't. I want to know how Jeff kicked game.
Starting point is 00:50:20 How did Jeff kick game? Man, she offer you crab legs, Baltimore shit. You want to go get some crab legs? You want to go get some crab legs? You want to go get some crab legs and listen to some house music? I got this special butter I make. I make this special butter. I put a little bit of cream cheese in it
Starting point is 00:50:36 so the butter lasts longer. You want to eat some crab legs? It wasn't even no real game. She came up to me and offered me a Michael Kors bag. She didn't come up and do no shit that was that impressive. She was just offering some regular shit, you know, when she came up to me, but, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:53 What do you say, Jess? And then he was cool. He was, yo, and that's the thing. He'd be talking all smooth and shit, you know, you know, and I'm like. That's Chico. Yeah, I know. Yeah, he ain't try. He don't ever try.
Starting point is 00:51:03 I can't. But I'm just saying. And then by the time I actually really did break up with Chris, this was my ex-boyfriend, the first Chris. By the time I did break up with him, I had already engaged with another Chris. But this one Mexican with locks and he got a job and he took care of everything. So this is good.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Time out. First of all, he's Mexican and black. He's a Mexican with locks like what the fuck type of nigga is this what's he he's Mexican with locks like when did you find this nigga right
Starting point is 00:51:34 is he a Mexican can't tell you right what in the world he's the only one out here like that I got a uniform by the time i got real chris for real i had already got to know him right and we was we was like man and got close and i was just like damn we're fucking up you know what i mean and i had to go back and tell everybody
Starting point is 00:51:57 i was like yo he not gay yeah i'm not yeah right he just didn't want me and i wasn't feeling the fact that he will never settle down with nobody. All the time. Women all the time. It's two things that happen to me all the time because of my perspective. One is you gay. He got to be gay. Having a Charlamagne too all the time. I mean that's because of Michael Kors bags.
Starting point is 00:52:17 One is he gay and then the other one I'm always relegated to loneliness. You're going to die alone. You're going to be alone. Who deal with that? And it's crazy because like the fact that unless you know for me the arrogance of a woman is is completely the ego the female ego is way more treacherous than the male ego because we only get to operate an ego in very slim situations outside of that is's very little that we get to operate egotistically on, you know what I'm saying? And it's like the fact
Starting point is 00:52:48 that a woman can tell you what's going to happen in your future based off of the fact that your narrative don't match the one that she has in her mind for you is crazy, you know what I mean? That's like me telling somebody, oh, well, I don't think you should have a blue jacket on so that means something's going to happen to you because
Starting point is 00:53:04 in my mind, niggas that wear blue jackets, get something done to them every day. And when they go, they ended that later. I mean, but that's what I'm saying. Like all of that is, it could be true.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I'm not, that's the reason why I use that analogy because it's not necessarily that it couldn't happen. But the fact that you immediately think is going to happen because you see me in a way that you never heard about. Nobody talked before. And that's the thing about the truth. Every woman that I've encountered, you meet anybody anybody they say they want a man to keep it
Starting point is 00:53:28 100 but until you run into one you don't know what that looks like right and you know like just just said she ran into me and thought i was gay because it's like wait a minute i can't do it baby girl you got this boyfriend right and i know that if you get to fuck with me you're not gonna like this nigga the same no more yeah you're not small backs can't take rejection oh please shut it up like listen and then another thing that he had said which i respect and i could respect it later on because i mean i was young we was young you feel me but he just always been so sure of himself and who he is and all of that matured way earlier than a lot a lot of people i know he was like he was so focused on his daughter like you know she was younger like way younger
Starting point is 00:54:11 back then and he was just like i don't bring people around my daughter i don't like you will never get that like i'm focused on raising my girl right now you know what i'm saying so other than him just not wanting to settle down with nobody he had a mission to be a dad and he just didn't want the two to bleed like no and you're not going to be the only female because I'm not trying to settle down I'm not going to be the one person people be mad when a man got a
Starting point is 00:54:36 checklist when a woman got a checklist it's fine yeah because our checklist has been the same since the beginning of time pussy that's the only thing on our list what else give me a couple things on the list. Emotional intelligence. You know what I'm saying? Somebody that is going to really be with you through thick and thin.
Starting point is 00:54:54 I don't like the term ride or die. Okay, but when did you develop into this mentality? Before or after buying the Michael Kors purse? I've literally always felt like that. Only because I saw how my father's situation ended up when he didn't do right by my mom and so I've always been the person
Starting point is 00:55:10 that wanted to be with one woman now did I always stick to that script no but from early on I mean yes a long time and how many of those years did you cheat not a lot but you have a lot. Don't answer it. Not a lot. No, no, no, not really a lot.
Starting point is 00:55:25 But you have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot. Absolutely. A lot of years. You made mistakes, okay. But that's the thing. Like, that's another part that's difficult about the relationship standard or the way
Starting point is 00:55:35 that the rules are set up, you know what I mean? Because if you, to me, the value of a man is based on things that we know we don't get no credit for. Like, I use that example all the time like you know i mean it's very difficult to be a man while also being emotionally available because of the responsibility that comes with being a man that you got to face in the world so if you've been a good nigga for 10 years and you fuck up on the 10th year in the first date is that now negate the 10 years of positive you know work that i've put in. You know what I mean? But I understand it from a feminine aspect as well, because, you know, you have to accept the fact that this woman now has realized that everything that she's been dedicating herself to is a lie in a sense, because you broke a promise that you stood in front of a pastor and listen to Brian McKnight songs and said you would never do.
Starting point is 00:56:21 So you got to understand it's difficult for them. But the part for me that I don't understand is that how women, you know, in certain aspects, act like they don't understand a man lying when they lie better than we ever could. Oh, shit. Absolutely. And the craziest part is I'll never be able to lie to you in the way that you lie to yourself. So, you know. You think women lie better than men, Jess?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Absolutely. I've said that. I've lied plenty of times, never got caught. And you never will. They never will because of times, never got caught. And you never will. They never will because of the, they never will. They never will. And this is the good part about being who I am. When you tell the truth to a woman, they'll tell the truth to you.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Mind you, I'm able to have a conversation with her in a manner that most men probably can't because they're scared that if they say something that's going to fuck their chance up of getting some pussy. I'm not worried about that. So now we can have a dialogue where with she giving me game from a perspective that most men don't get because she know i ain't got no dog in the fight right so you get to see how good they lie like women lie on a different level because they know us better than we know ourselves emotionally so they got a vantage point into you as a man so where they know how to play women deal off a man's ego where she'll build it all the way up to the sky just so whenever you act like you ain't got no sense
Starting point is 00:57:29 get over here bring it on down because now i'm in control of how you see me and niggas be so worried about the bullshit that they get ready running dude you ain't even looking at this woman and how she operate and what she got going on and the things that she's saying so they get away with it way that the reason why men are called dogs more is because we get caught. Yeah. We get caught fucking in front of everybody. We get caught fucking in front of everybody.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Exactly. And you never will. No, you know what I mean? Not in public. At least they get away with it. So I'll tell you one thing, boy,
Starting point is 00:57:59 you're going to have every woman right now. This woman putting on Vaseline, tying their hair up just to run to the comments and fight your ass. I mean, that, that happens all the time. I'm i'm not i'm not it happens man i get it you know and i understand i had these conversations all the time this is not something that i just talk about frivolously like this is my life i live like this but i also hope that women can understand that there are men out here who stand on principle and protocol and have no desire
Starting point is 00:58:25 to get whatever it is you trying to give that's a value to you like i'm me regardless of whether you like me or not i can care less who likes me i know who love me and that's all that matter so i'm not you know being malicious in my sentiment this is really who i am and i feel like being honest is me giving you a choice to know what you're about to be dedicating your time to because you can't get none of that back time is the most valuable asset we have so if i take your time away from you pretending to be a nigga that i'm not then you're gonna hate me for it but you can respect me if i tell you the truth in the beginning might hurt you in the beginning you might not like me but down the line once you get to running into them niggas that's full of shit you're gonna look
Starting point is 00:59:01 back and be like well i did know one motherfucker who kept it real with me you know and that's full of shit, you're going to look back and be like, well, I did know one motherfucker who kept it real with me. You know what I mean? And that's of value. Because like you said, I got a daughter and I understand the sins of the father. I can't put that energy out into the world knowing my daughter grade go out here and be fucking around with niggas because I got to teach her how to cheat in that regard. I got to tell her the things that look for. And if I'm her father
Starting point is 00:59:20 out here doing things to women that I can't think that that's not going to affect my baby. And the reason, a big reason is why I'm like this is because I saw the way that men dealt with my mother. So, no nigga kept it real with my mama. So, how could I be out here seeing that she went through all of this bullshit
Starting point is 00:59:35 and then I go out here and do the same thing to somebody else's mama? I think anytime you take away somebody's power or choice, that's criminal. So, you giving them a choice. Did you give the ladies a choice as to whether or not they wanted a Michael Coors or a Coach bag? Yeah, I don't know. I ain't giving them no choice. No, I asked them. That's what they wanted. No.
Starting point is 00:59:51 No. See, that plays to the type of woman that it was. Ain't nobody. I never, a nigga never asked me, what you want? And I said, Michael Coors. Ever. At no point in life. No. No point in life did you ever want a Michael Kors bag he was fishing in the wrong pond
Starting point is 01:00:08 no you know what pond he was fishing in that nigga was at the Dwayne Reed every night messing with the night shift acting like I need the key to unlock the soap so what's your name on the radio every morning I'm going out to the
Starting point is 01:00:24 Tango Outlets this weekend you want to ride with me you want me to pick you up you ain't never bought Louis for nobody not even oh no that's cheating that's cheating
Starting point is 01:00:33 that's cheating oh so I mean the wife get the Louis god damn what and then everybody else get the Michael Gores bag
Starting point is 01:00:39 that's disrespectful that's crazy man that's a limousine disrespectful to anybody who did that Stan this nigga this nigga Stan from Martin in real life man don't ever call man. A limousine disrespectful to anybody who did that? Man, Stan. This nigga Stan from Martin in real life, man.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Don't ever call up with no limousine. That's crazy, man. Chico B, man. Y'all trying to get rid of a nigga again. Chico, get out of here. Salute to the lovely voluptuous women of the world. Voluptuous is a better word. I told you.
Starting point is 01:01:04 The voluptuous women of the world. All theptuous is a better word. I told you. The voluptuous women of the world. All the way. Yeah, all the voluptuous women. Make sure you get your tickets to the We Them Wands Tour. That's right. We're coming to a city near you, man. Myself, DC Young Flag, Carlos Miller, D-Ray Davis, Lil Duval, Mojo Brooks, Moneybagg Mafia, hosted by Mike Epps. It's one of the dopest shows you're going to see.
Starting point is 01:01:22 It's amazing. You get all different types of perspective, all different types of comedy, all different types of energy all on one show. And it's showing love amongst comedians in a time of, you know, in tumultuous times amongst comedians. So I think this is, you know, perfect timing. You know, I always talk about the outlier, the book outliers, and the timing of everything.
Starting point is 01:01:41 So this tour is happening at the perfect time because the climbing is so opposite of what we're actually doing on this tour man so make sure you get your tickets to come out we're gonna have charlamagne at the next show giving out michael kors bag to all of the ladies out there that need a michael so if you want a michael kors bag send your uh email to this uh computer he got right here what's it called a think pad send it to the think pad man so we can get you a michael kors in the next week and one show i'm giving out this spring and summer is gift cards the planet fitness 24-hour fitness gold's gym you're gonna have an unbig your back campaign for the spring and the summer that's what we doing man that lady gonna
Starting point is 01:02:20 beat the dog shit out of you. I ain't talking about her. You ain't talking about her. That lady gonna beat the dog shit out of you. I don't got nothing to do with it. I'm gonna let her do it. I'm not helping. Yes, you know you're being, that's why I say this nigga is the ultimate troll, man. I am not. There is nobody in the history of entertainment
Starting point is 01:02:36 who has trolled on the level of Charlemagne the God, man. This nigga is a grade A troll, man. The trolling that he does is immaculate. You keep talking about this lady like you not talking. You've seen this lady say that you hurt her feelings. All you got to do is rewind the tape, and you heard me talk about the Unbigg Your Back campaign way before this happened. I've been talking about this for the last three weeks.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I've been saying how I want to do that for the spring and summer, the Unbigg Your Back campaign where we get gift cards to all of these different gyms and give them to people. Nigga can change his skin and just think everybody is just capable of making those types of transitions. Let's give it a try. I mean, listen, man. Give it a little incentive to try. I mean, it's more difficult than that, man.
Starting point is 01:03:21 You know what I mean? You got to stop. It's not just the gym. It's the eating. It's the eating. That's the part that makes man. You know what I mean? You got to stop. It's not just the gym. It's the eating. It's the eating. That's the part that makes people. You got to understand. You got to not go to the kitchen at 2 o'clock in the morning and get another cookie.
Starting point is 01:03:31 That's the hard part. And then go back to sleep. So the gym, you're wasting time, man. You need to, you know, update. It's not a start, man. It's not a start. The start would be us getting a list of who you bought the Michael Kors purses for. Shut up, man. Chico B, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Jess, let's do a recap. I'm coming back up here. We're going to have me and you. We're going to interview the ladies of the Michael. You know what I mean? Meet the Michael Kors. You know what I'm saying? That's what we're doing.
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