The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Chloe Bailey Talks New Music, Rumored Relationships, Pursuit Of Perfection + More

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

The Breakfast Club sits down with Chloe Bailey to talk about her new music, rumored relationships, and the pursuit of perfection. Listen for more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave. And we have Lauren filling in. And we got a special guest in the building. Big Chloe. Chloe Bailey. Welcome. Hi. How you feeling?

Gorgeous. Thank you. I'm feeling really good. I'm happy to see you guys again. Happy to see you too, cuz. You doing a lot of movies. Happy to see you, cuz. Happy to see you, cuz cuz. You doing a lot of movies. Happy to see you, cuz. Happy to see you, cuz. He is my cousin. I know.

You be forgetting. So that's like real? Yes. Okay, because he be claiming stuff and people and I be thinking he little. I don't claim nobody. No, but it's real. Yes, you do. Except for Chloe.

Okay. I be proud too. You proud? Yes, I am. Oh, look at that. Lauren, could you not find a way to hate this morning, please? Jesus. Sorry. Chloe, you just rapped Goons to hate this morning, please? Jesus. Sorry.

Chloe, you just rapped Goons. Yes, I did. The Exorcism. Mm-hmm. Fight Night is out. Mm-hmm. How do you have time to record albums? Oh, you working, working.

Oh, yes. Well, I breathe music, so I do it in between. When I was filming Fight Night, I was going back and forth between Coachella rehearsals and everything like that. So you make time for what you love. And how was doing Fight Night? Because you had so many people in there. Kevin Hart, Samuel L. Jackson, Taraji, so many people.

How was working with that cast? It was amazing. Every time I'd go to set, I'd pinch myself. I specifically remember during a lunch break or when we rapped that day, Taraji and I, we were in our sweats doing stunt rehearsals rehearsals and I was like this is insane like I look up to this woman and you know even doing the scene with Samuel L Jackson and I was just like so pumped and nervous right before I was like okay you gotta hold your own because this is Sam and he was just so gracious and Kevin and Don and Terrence like everyone's just been so amazing and I love Will for even putting me in that space.

Do you keep it cool with them, or do you ask them a lot of questions? Do they have to tell you not to call me Mr. Jackson, not to call me Ms. Henson? You know, I think I do a pretty good job at keeping it cool. Okay. You know, of course, inside, I'm not going to lie, I fangirl. I'd be lying if I was like, oh, yeah, no, I'm chilling. No, it's an honor to be in the room with them,

and it's just really exciting, and I definitely did learn a lot, like a sponge. Any intimidation at all? Because they have so many years in. Of course. Are you kidding me? Of course. But you're your own star.

But I'm just asking because they've been doing it for 20 plus years. Yes, we're all our own star in our own right. But it's always nice to have figures to look up to. So when there's people in places that you wish to be and you have experienced things that you wish to seen it's really amazing when you can be in a room to pick their brain you know got you and you play uh lena mosley i do so who is she lena she is technically one of the guys she's the only girl a part of the robbers oh yes you're getting busy she getting busy robbing so you're not a shooter gun in real life no oh okay i want to learn yeah you from the south

you gotta learn i know i know how to box oh i've never had to use my skills but i do so you've trained boxing you know the box yes how much would i have to pay you to punch your cousin in the face? Oh, I would not do that. You should do that for community service. No, no, no, no, no. I'm a lover, not a fighter. Okay.

You know what I mean? You know what I mean? I got to fight in this room every day. Why? He starts the fights in this room every day. That's not true. It's okay. It's all right. You got me.

That's what got him where he at, the coddling. Back to Lena. Because you said she's one of the guys yes so explain to me like when you say she's one of the guys like how does she fit in the world of like the gangsters and the thieves and so she goes undercover so she convinces chicken man who plays kevin hart well kevin hart plays chicken man yep and she's like hey i'm gonna be a part of one of the go-go girls does she give this energy? She does give this energy. And what I really love about her is her weapon of choice is her hairpin.

And that's like, it personifies a woman. It's feminine, it looks cute, but she will cut somebody with it. Right. Wow. Okay, hairpin. How does it feel to be an auntie now? It feels amazing. It's like life has an extra layer of meaning i love halo so much how you how are you with the baby changing pampers changing diapers are you that

auntie or you want to be like you know this is your child you change the pamper and then bring him back i'm the fun auntie okay you know i do all the fun stuff with him so i keep all of that stuff for them yeah you're gonna be rich auntie in the future, too. Oh, yes. She's rich right now. Keep that energy when he wants some money. Oh, yes, I will. I will spoil him anything.

Hey, love, what you need? I got you. Does it make you want to have your own babies? Is it making you kind of prepare for that? Absolutely. Not for a while. Okay. What's a while?

Like six years. Okay, six years. You know. How old are you? 26. Okay. I think six years is good. But you can never really plan your life.

It's all really on God's timing. But if I could, I'd say like six years. Got you. And then as like auntie, I know your sister talked a lot about like going through postpartum and all that stuff. Are you guys like, how is she doing with that? How do you help her through that? Because I know you didn't experience it, but you're you guys are so close so yeah well I don't want to speak on her journey necessarily but no matter what each of us go through we're always there for each other no

matter what and I'm just happy that we can cling on to each other like even when I'm in need or need her like she's always there for me as I will always be for her. I'm mama bear when it comes to Halle. I always protect her. Does it bother you when you see stuff online with the memes of your nephew, and with DDG, he's always posting the videos, the haircut thing, does that stuff bother you? Well, that's not my baby.

He is my baby, but he's not. He has great parents, and I'm happy to witness him grow. Got you. Yeah. You know, the album is called Trouble in Paradise, and I know you spent a lot of time in St. Lucia, and you said that it inspired the album. What was the inspiration?

What about St. Lucia? Okay, so St. Lucia has been like my sanctuary. I have found peace there, comfort, happiness, joy, and not saying that it erases life's problems, but it makes it a little bit easier to deal with. So I literally wrote Away My Troubles in Paradise. Wow. And what I love about this body of work is it feels like what a summer fling feels like. You know what I mean? It's exciting. It has its ups and downs. You know, it's not too serious, but then again, it really feels heavy.

In the moment. Yes, in the moment. It just feels like this is the one. But then it's like, oh no. Then by Labor Day, you're like, you know what, what was I even doing? Yeah, exactly. So I love the project.

Do you remember a place that you found peace before St. Lucia? No. Wow. No. Wow. So when I found it, I was like like this is what it's like to live yeah it's you're a cancer so you like water of course you know okay wow when you say to live is it

because like you've been famous and like kind of in the spotlight for a long time or do you just mean like just because they live differently they're very free on the islands or like what do you mean by to live it It gave a new definition to living because this is all I've known my whole life. I've been in the spotlight or however you want to call it since I've been like a little girl. So my life, my goals, my dreams, my aspirations, what makes me happy, it's all been based on my career

and how people view me in that space. But it's also about your internal, your character, how you feel mentally, your heart. And when I went there, I was like, okay, this is true peace. It has nothing to do with how people view me as an artist, but actually as a human being. I was triggered by your album a little bit. Why? Tell me why.

He's light skinned. Yeah. That's really weird. I'm looking at myself together. Because he's light-skinned everything share with me are you about to cry almost you have a song on there called rose and i'm not talking flowers yeah we had a conversation on the breakfast club one day about how women use the rose and how men... You got to dig deeper. Don't tell the story if you're not going to tell it. Yeah, we can go there.

It's all right. You need to dig deeper. Are you laughing back there? He has some issues. If you're going to tell this story, you need to tell it. Yeah, he has some issues. Go ahead.

It's all right. My tear's a little bit... You know, some men look at the rose and not flowers as cheating. And you want women to charge the rose. But how about men? Now, that's not fair.

Because if you think a rose is cheating then you could say porn is cheating some people do consider porn cheating i don't like there are some people who'll be like we have to watch it together we don't need to do now that's od in it people can have fantasies okay so this song she really idolizes the rose and i don't i don't like it you buried the lead, though. Tell her about the book, King. Tell her what you wrote. Tell her about the parts you wrote in your book.

She wrote away her troubles. That's right. You wrote away yours as well. Oh, I have to hear this? Yes, please. Okay. Wait. Me and my wife have been together since 16. Love it.

Hold on. When we first having sexual relations, don't look at me like that, because you're troubling me now. Okay, I'm just waiting. I'm sorry. I don't know what I like that because you're okay i'm just waiting i'm sorry i don't know what i'm gonna hear it was hard for me to make her orgasm hold my hand please i got you wait why are you talking about this it was in the book we wrote in the book we fine now okay but for five years no 10 don't you dare cut that you see what i'm saying you see what

i'm saying it was 10 was not 10 years you said 10 in the book. I read the book. Don't you laugh. Don't you laugh. 10? Don't you laugh. I'm not laughing. But for a while, it took me- 10 years, Khloe. Stop it. A decade.

I could not make her reach orgasm. You can't get to no points. That's why you hate stories. Just get there already. Dang. I couldn't get there. That was the problem. That's the problem.

You ain't getting nowhere. That was the problem, and I couldn't get there because you know what? I used to watch porn, and I used to think bang, bang, bang, bang, bang was the way, and I realized it wasn't and now the rose triggers me that's why he hates toys yeah you just need to build yourself up so that

you're not triggered by materialistic things you have to better yourself and that'll solve the problem it should be an addition to you all's love so I agree that's sound advice

thank you Chloe and why are you laughing back there I see you laughing back there she is cracking up honey she is having a time over here especially when he said 10 when he doubled down so she told you that? She was honest about it?

You want to bring it back? You should be honest about that. I'm really intrigued. Okay, so let me tell you what happened. We've been married 23 years. You said this already. I know, but I want to tell her. You're doing therapy

when you repeat yourself. That's a beautiful thing, though. We couldn't live for a breakthrough. But it happened during an argument. She probably got tired. She was like, exactly. And then it was bad. But we worked.

He tried to flush the rolls down the toilet. That's how mad he got. I actually ran over it. I put it out in the car and ran over it. But we good now. We write about it in the book so couples can learn from my mistake. Okay. Any more questions, Chloe?

You brought this up. I'm happy that it ended in a positive way. Thank you. Okay. I hate this place. Go ahead. So this album, and even just hear you talking right now, I feel like this is a lot, you're a lot more like open about just you relationships wise, like sexuality.

I saw the video you posted when people were reacting to the lyrics and you was like, y'all, like it's life. It happens. Like, how has that been coming around

even being in a public eye like the dating stuff? I know there was a photo with you and Gunna. How is all of this new world for you? Because you're a lot more, like you're here,

you're sure, but you're confident. A new photo of her and Gunna? Well, it wasn't, it's not that new. Like it wasn't yesterday, but there was an additional one

outside of y'all. Y'all were in LA. So y'all were in LA. Remember you guys were in the store shopping and you were like, no, no, no. He came here. You're like, no, no, no. We're just friends. And then you perform with Offset.

And then there was a photo y'all at the party afterward. Y'all are just sitting next to each other in the photo, which sparked some more rumors. So Lauren did her homework on you. This is my eye. Nah, she is great. I see. No, I gotta give you a shout look I got my pen in my hand

this is I'm at work no you that girl thank you I appreciate that we ain't gonna get around a question though oh no I'm listening I'm not deflecting

okay so I wanna know two things first of all I wanna know right because you are who you are he is who he is talking about Gunna and it's tough sometimes and people critique you

a lot about you're a woman and you date and you have sex and you a lot about be you're a woman and you date and you have sex and you do these different things so is that tough trying to date at all removing gunna from the situation yeah well one i'm really proud of everything that he's doing two honestly it is tough to date because even if i just want to go out to grab a bite, say talk about music, if it's any one of the opposite sex, it's like, oh, that's when she's dating. And I want people to focus on me and my career.

I don't want to be connected to every man that I'm standing next to. So because of that, I mean, I am naturally a hermit, but because of that, I'm just like extra, extra cautious. Yeah. And it's unfortunate, though, because you are in the phase where I'm sure you're dating, wanting to meet new people, and it's a fun thing to be able to do. Yeah. You know? And it's unfortunate though because you are in the phase where I'm sure you're dating wanting to meet new people and it's a fun thing

to be able to do. Yeah. You can't do it publicly but since those photos were public at one time and I know you guys have denied it and then the offset thing happened,

what is the, what's the synergy there? Like, is there nothing there for real or? You want to know the status. Yeah, like I just want to know.

I feel like every time we get told there's nothing then it's like, y'all find each other somewhere. Well, I mean, we're both in the industry. He's doing his thing. I'm doing my thing. He's doing really great, by the way.

So it's just all love. Yeah. Okay. Are you writing nowadays more from a reflective standpoint or as a storyteller? Because, you know, I hear records like Might As Well, where you say things like, I might fly a nigga to the south side,

let him hit it first night, then fall back. Jesus. You know, that's the new Chloe I'm talking about. My girl, you here now. So it's like my external doesn't say these things. Right. But my internal feels them. So when I write, it's like coming from a standpoint,

this is what I'd say to you. Right. If you, you know, if I had the gall. The gumption. I like that for you though. You'd fly a man out for real? No. Oh, okay. Why you can't fly a man out? If you like him you wouldn't do it?

She ain't gonna be dealing with no brokies. They'd fly themselves out. If a man is treating you well You wanna treat him sometimes But I don't I don't think I would do that I mean Maybe I'd go there instead

So that I'm flying myself Okay You feel me? You're dating somebody That might not have it like you did You wouldn't say You know what boo boo I'ma fly you to me to LA

Or I'ma fly you to me to St. Lucia Or I'ma fly you to wherever I would want them to at least be able to get a flight to see me ain't nothing wrong with that yeah you know I don't want to be like I don't want to play like the masculine role and like make him

feel less than so I'd rather not even visit that people forget that you're 26 years old I think a lot of people still look at you as the young teenager singing. Do you have a hard time with that? No. It kind of makes me laugh, especially when I have no makeup on.

I do look 15. And I do have, like, a young spirit. So, I mean, it's okay. Sometimes I'm like, gosh, I'm 26, four years from 30. Like, let's let it go. What does your dad and auntie say about those lyrics? Because you're such a family person. Yeah.

And usually your dad's here. So what do you, what do they say when they hear those lyrics? So my godmom, she's the first person I'll send the songs to. And she knows me like at the back of my hand. So she, she will laugh a lot to the lyrics. And then she'll also push me. And what I really love too about how Want Me came about with Sis and I when I played it for her she was like this feels like a Chloe

and Halle record and I kept looping that in my head and I was like you know what so then I wrote Sis's verse and I was like do you want to hop on this with me and it was nice that we got to have a collaboration together after two years so it's like little things like that that I won't always be privy or open to that she'll like call out so it's always nice to have someone that you'll trust now if a song is she'll tell me there's too much yeah are there ever any songs like because you have temporarily single uh all I got where like you're you know you opening up about stuff where you're like don't listen to this one y'all like skip over that one like do you ever have to tell them that i always get nervous anytime i play my music anytime really yes because you i'm burying my soul in the song and it's like okay yeah this is me i don't really show this this is me so it's

like i hope you know people will like it even the ones closest to me like i'll get nervous i'll have my head down listening looking up like this yeah I love the relationship you have with your godmother, too, though, because you hear people say, oh, I'm the godmom, I'm the goddad, but you don't see the godparent really act like it. Yeah. She really hold you down like that. Yeah. Has that always been the case?

It has. She's the first person to show me what unconditional love truly looks like. Wow. Wow. Y'all anybody Godparents? I am. Me too, but I don't act like it. You got me too.

I don't know what it entails. Like, that's what I'm saying. When I see them together, I'm like. OK, so it's like if something happens to, you know, they will take over. Like, I'm Halo's aunt, but I'm also his godmom. Wow. Got you.

Got you. Got you. That's fitting for y'all, though, because I don't know who else is. Like, you guys are the closest. I've never. It's just, it's y'all. I know. I would have got you, got you, got you, got you. That's fitting for y'all, though, because I don't know who else is. Like, you guys are the closest. I've never. It's y'all. I know.

I would have been like, excuse me, why am I not the godmom? But it makes sense when you got a relationship, when somebody just labels you that, and then you don't really have a relationship with the child. With the child, right. And then something happens, you're like, I don't know this person. I think we all godparents on birthdays and holidays, right? You don't send gifts at all? I don't even know what it means.

That's why I say when I see them, it's like, oh, okay, that's how it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be like your backup angel. It's like, you know, like you might need to call them for something. You might need to, God, Dad, I need some money. You might need to, hey, advice. It depends on the relationship. I like how you said like the little backup guardian angel. That's how I think of my God mom, who's also my aunt as well, too.

It's my grandma's sister. But I feel like we are like kindred spirits, and just God made it that way. But I have a question for you about, you mentioned when you play your music for people and people hear your music, you always get nervous. How do you deal with critiques? Because I know John B. came out, and that was like a whole thing

when he said that you were going to song that you remade of his. What song was it? The They Don't Know was Ratchet. And people were upset at him for saying that. Like, how did you feel about that? Well, John B is an incredible artist. If that song didn't exist, we couldn't sample it. So I love what Gunna and I did to it.

And, you know, I'm sad he feels that way. But, hey, everyone has opinions. You also said it didn't get cleared. I was like, it had to get cleared yeah that i mean it had to be clear for us to be sold did you know who john b was before that of course of course why do y'all think that no don't get on his get on yours too literally. Literally. If they talk to me because I'm younger, I'm just like, doo-doo-doo. It's like, I might not know everything. No, it's really important to listen to her and trust the youth.

She's a smart one. Put it here, girl. When's your birthday? November 22nd. Are you a Sag? I love Sages. Scorpio Sag. Okay.

It don't have nothing to do with youth, Chloe. It has the fact she sometimes, I'm not sure, people just don't be knowing stuff. That's all. That's it. Yes, but if she doesn't know something, we can't say it's because of her youth. Yeah, she just don't know. You gotta inform her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I get it. It's just little things, though. Like what? You wanted somebody to ask you that. She didn't know we called Latifah a queen. She didn't know it was Queen Latifah. No, that's not true. He asked me, did I know Queen Latifah's real name? That's what he asked me.

That's not true. It started from LL Cool J. Yeah, I didn't know LL Cool J's real name because I'm like, it's LL Cool J. Like, what do you mean? That's the stuff. Those are the things I think people should know, though. But that goes back to when we were younger, we had to read the album credits. Correct.

We would watch the movies, watch the TV shows, and look at the end credits to see what people were doing. That I do miss. I feel like that art is gone. Like that's something that I would have appreciated, you know. Do you really feel like nice girls finish last? So I do feel that way. And in your case, your wife did.

So that's good. Was that a stab? No, that's what the song's about. What is that a stab? That's what the song is about. Jesus. Oh, oh. That's what the song is about.

On Face Value, that was such a blast. That's what the song is about. Don't let it fool you. Don't let all of this fool you. Explain the lyrics. That's what the song is about. Now everybody want to listen to Nice Girls Finish Last.

Because we cater to the man and the nice girl finishes last. And then we reference Janet Jackson at the end on the last line of the song. That's what the song is about. Was that a stab, Chloe? It was not. You're saying that women should speak up for themselves more the last line of the song. That's what the song is about. Was that a stab, Chloe? It was not. It was not.

So basically, you're saying that women should speak up for themselves more, and if they're not getting what they want, say it. It's like a innuendo. Yeah. And are you also speaking romantically, like sexually as well too? That's what it is.

Yeah, because you wanna, it's all about pleasing your partner. Sorry, Emmy. It was not a stab. No. It was not a stab. I wish this was TV. They're going to see it on YouTube. The way she looked at me

and said, and that's what your wife felt. Give him the rose. Somebody told me that he needs to use it. I don't want no rose. Put that rose on the other side. I want no roses over here. I'm sorry. But that's what the song is about. I want those roses over here. You want this? I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

But that's what the song is about. That's what it's about. Okay. Like taking the back seat and letting your partner, you know. As a woman, because one of the things that I feel like I'm learning right now is. She's single, by the way. I am, and I'm enjoying it. Period. Independence.

Not temporarily. Not temporarily. Leave the floor. No, I'm done. No, I'm done. either, Kloi. That was good. That was good. I keep that there because I be having to throw stuff at him. But I've been enjoying it. And I will say though, one of the things I had to learn

is how to take a backseat because I wasn't just natural. That wasn't in my household. But then he made me forget everything I was about to say. You were saying you were single. As a woman who, you know, you're very career oriented, you have a lot going for yourself, all that stuff. How do you deal with knowing when to take the back seat and knowing when to be like, no, I'm not doing that? Because you don't want to intimidate the guy.

That's a really great question. So for me, I like to be babied a bit, like because I am in a field where I do have to lead and speak up for myself and, you know, command the room and everything. It's nice to be able to come to a space that you're comfortable where you can let that down. I feel like every woman wants a protector. They just have to find the man who can protect. And I feel like that's when we don't feel that way. That's when we feel like we have to stick our chest out because it's like fight or flight. But when we feel like someone is capable enough to carry us, to shield us, you know, when the storm gets crazy, that's when we kind of take that backseat role.

So it's really about who you find comfortable being that vulnerable with, I feel. I agree with that. You so calm. Really? Yeah, you're right too. Shit, not the way she threw that dart at Envy just now. No, but even that, I love it. I don't know how to shoot a guy that never shot a gun before.

I can't tell. I couldn't tell. Now, being that you are who you are, Khloe, do you really feel like, fuck your status when it comes to guys? Because you got a song and I'm called FYI. That's your status, Chloe, do you really feel like fuck your status when it comes to guys? Because you got a song that I'm called FYI. Do you really feel that way? Do you really feel like all I need is love? I don't need nothing else.

I don't need the money, the car, the diamonds, your position, job. Yeah. Honestly, yes. I still want someone with drive and someone who has ambition so that we can build each other up but I think being in a world where it's so superficial and everything is based on what you have what are you doing next this sometimes it gets a little suffocating and redundant so it's nice to just have someone who loves you just for you so you would date like somebody that

wasn't in the industry oh yeah like the up i gotta drive ups or something no but someone not in the industry yeah got you yeah but i think a lot of times too when when people ask that question i mean it's like i get it but like when people ask that question too like one of the conversations people don't have is sometimes like when finances aren't right or like even just status right like we could both be making the same money but i'm more outward than you are i've never come across a man that has been secure enough in himself to be okay with that and it causes problems even if you don't bring them in and that's why women we kind of do that to protect ourselves sometimes so i think it gets unfairly thrown on women you're very successful it gets unfairly thrown on you when you say, oh, I have a preference.

But the preference sometimes is to protect yourself. But what would be wrong with a UPS driver? That's what somebody would say. Everybody has a preference. Nothing's wrong with a UPS driver. Nothing's wrong with them at all.

Would I date someone? Maybe, maybe not. Just like everyone has a preference. They like a woman with the big booty. They like a woman with tiny titties. Everybody has a preference. You wouldn't date somebody a big booty. They like a woman with tiny titties. Everybody has a preference. You wouldn't date somebody short though. I would date

someone who I'm the same height with with heels on. Oh, okay. I don't see... I've not known somebody who's kind of your height. Who? We've seen them in photos together already. Why do you keep going back to this? What is this?

What are you trying to ask? I think you're such a fly couple. What are you trying to ask here? I'm asking you, would you, like, if today he's like, we need to do this, would you lock in? Like, is the relationship there where you guys are friends enough? I understand you're just friends now, but you guys are friends enough where you would be like, you know what? I would explore this. I think we're both living like our own lives.

You so good at this. Good at what? Your answers, your answers. I'm just being honest. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, we're just living our own lives, you know? Did you like his physical transformation? Yeah, I'm really proud of him.

It's always great when someone transforms their life like that, you know? He did it the right way. No surgery, no BBLs. He looks great. Yeah. Were you asking her that or telling her? I'm confused. you know. He did it the right way. No surgery, no BBLs. He looks great. Yeah. Were you asking her that or telling her? I'm confused.

Were you confused, Wendy? Get your cousin. I told you. Lauren, what is your problem, yo? Nothing.

Jesus Christ. I was going to say, you opened the album, I think it's All I Got, but correct me if I'm wrong. And you talk about, like, there's like a guy who he's like not the fall guy but he's always there for you and he's always there for you all the right ways but that's not the guy you

like or want to be with but then there's this other guy like you have the this is the ideal guy but he doesn't know how to be free be there for you in the same way what's your experience been like with that like in house ask which one is gonna that's what she wants to ask which one is gonna. That's what she wants to ask. What inspired that song? So what inspired the song? You guys love talking about it. What inspired the song?

It's kind of crazy. I didn't even say that. Right? I literally didn't even say it this time. I just was interested in that. We knew where we was going. You know, I think every girl has that. Yeah.

What inspired the song, though, for me is that you want to feel safe and secure, but then at the same time, you also want someone to push you out of your comfort zone. So it's the Catch-22, because we all just, oh, it's life. Life be life. So you like the bad guy, or you like the guy that's going to keep you secure and safe? The latter. The latter.

Should men listen to your albums and use it as a blueprint? Should they use it like how people use Steve Harvey books? Or is this the stuff you're writing? Do you really mean a lot of the time? They can if they would like to. Okay, okay. You know? I mean, there might be some girls who have experienced things I've experienced.

There might be not. But it was really fun, you know, just coming from such a stance of power as being a woman and being in the islands, you islands, just looking out at the water as I'm creating this music. It was just something about it. It was just like... So you recorded the whole album in English? I did.

Wow. I did. We had a villa, flew out, producer, engineer, and it was just so nice. And every night we'd go out, experience the music. I'd go swimming, come back in, record. It was just the most freeing experience, to be honest. Did you do the mud bath thing in St. Lucia?

I did. Okay. Yes. Sulphur Springs. Sulphur Springs. Sulphur Springs. How was that? Amazing.

I love it. It's so, so cleansing. What's fun, relaxed you like? Like no work in St. Like on a day where you're not working in St. Lucia, you're not Chloe. You're just somebody that's there and experiencing like, experiencing to have a good time. Like, what are you like? Are you the stand-on-the-couch friend?

You're the spa friend? Like, which one are you? I'm the friend who has my bathing suit on and my big baggy sweatpants, and I go straight to the beach, and I lounge out there all day, and I'll eat good food. Or be on a boat and jump off. Adventurous friend. Yes. There jump off. Adventurous friend. Yes.

There you go. Adventurous friend. I also read one time that you said you enjoy acting because it helps train your brain not to aim for perfection. Yeah. So have you been striving for perfection in everything else, like your career path, your personal life? When it comes to performing and music, you kind of have to.

You're only as good as your last performance. And, you know, you rehearse for hours to make sure the choreography's perfect. You make sure you can sing the song perfectly so that it's like... So, you know, for me, I just love acting as well because it's like it taps into a piece of me where I can be really raw and vulnerable and open.

And when you are channeling an actual human being, there's beauty in the flaws. And how channeling, how hard is it to try to chase perfection though? Like, cause I feel like you'll beat yourself up if you don't feel like you're doing things perfectly. You'll constantly, it'll be like a endless cycle, like a hamster in a wheel. And for me, there's so many times i've done that but it's like you it'll be a losing battle so it's a catch-22 as well a lot because a lot of times that can lead to like depression that can lead to like anxiety because you think you're not doing things you're not doing enough yeah yeah yeah of course what was an experience that made you like realize

okay like i gotta learn to step off the wheel like do you remember a moment where you're like oh I'm hitting rock bottom right now I gotta step off the wheel I think it was last year and it was like you know when you kind of go numb a bit and you kind of nothing really phases you yeah that's when you're like okay I've lost feeling how do I get that back you don't want to ever give up to a point where you stop caring yeah so I'm happy that my love and care has come back but what I really appreciate is how you constantly do talk about mental health because it is important and I feel like especially in the black community it's overlooked or like it's frowned upon sometimes but more recently it hasn't

been but i think therapy is important i think you know talking to the people your loved ones so that you're not suffering or going through anything alone i think all of that's important did it help you get out that space like therapy and oh yeah yeah oh yeah for sure if you don't mind and this one over here God Mama see yes you said a line one time you said people who you think will be there

for the rest of your life people who you think have your back through and through they have the knife Jesus Christ yep wow

that's life and I think what has been healthy for me is knowing that everybody goes through kind of a similar thing. Absolutely.

It kind of takes me out of the moment of being like, woe is me. Like, of course, I still do, you know, I'll be like, damn. And I'll allow myself to feel. But it's like, okay, someone is going through something similar. You're not alone. And it's like, okay, this is just life. And that's how I'll generalize it to keep pushing. Do you know how to set boundaries?

That's my big learning lesson right now. I'm getting there. I'm getting there. Where were you, if you don't mind me asking, what was going on in your life at the time where you had to step off the wheel and you got numb? Because I remember what I was going through specifically. It was a factor of things.

It was a factor of things. It's like, I think there's always that little cherry on top yeah and it's like oh but what is important is that you always continue to get back up and having people who can help you get back up so I'm standing now there you go how was it when you and Holly got back in the studio it was amazing we were in New York actually we had like a press event here and I was like sis okay here's the verse you actually. We had like a press event here. And I was like, sis, okay, here's the verse. You like it? She's like, I love it. I was like, come.

She's like, okay. I'm bringing Halo to the studio. He was there at the engineering board with me. And she just sounded so beautiful. And she just pushed the record to be even more special. Is it hard to get her to do anything other than be a mother nowadays? No. She is multifaceted.

Like, she's doing so much. She's been filming filming taking care of halo even when i was filming in new orleans she came to visit me for a weekend because i was like feeling lonely so i was happy i know you guys your uh is it t it's tea time yes it's y'all started it back up and i saw halo was in one of them what it is like because you've always been close but now she's a mom so so she's experiencing different things. Is the relationship different now, or is it the same, but you just have to know she's also a mom too? What was that like?

In a really weird way, it's gotten stronger. Okay. I can't explain it. It's just like, I think because we both have a deeper appreciation for life now, seeing something so pure and innocent like that, it has our bond stronger y'all women now it's like a different level of womanhood mm-hmm that's what I feel through this this this project that's why I'm like you here like I'm happy for you thank you thank you so much happy that you enjoyed it let's split can we play a joint other than Rose off the album? I think we should play Rose. I think we should play Rose on the album.

We can play favorites. Okay. Favorite feature, Anderson.Paak. You her favorite. There you go. Yes, I like that. You made up for it. There we go.

Boom! There we go. True cancer. Shoot you, heal it up a little bit. You know what I'm saying? You laugh a little longer, she'll shoot you again. You a cancer? Yes.

Oh, yes. Wow. Absolutely. 629, July 1st. Yep. You're cancer? Yes. Oh, yes. Wow. Absolutely. 629, July 1st. Yep. You're July 1st? No, I'm 629. You July 1st.

Oh, I was like. It's like, hold on. Love you, Jesus. Well, it's Chloe Bailey. We appreciate you for joining us. Thank you. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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