The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Cordae Talks New Music, Fatherhood, Lil Wayne's Influence, Avoiding Social Media + More

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Cordae To Discuss His New Music, Fatherhood, Lil Wayne's Influence, Avoiding Social Media. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. We got the brother Cordae.

Welcome back. What's up, y'all, how y'all feeling? What's up, my brother, man? I feel good. I got a third Breakfast Club interview, man. That's tight, man. A lot of people don't get to the third one, man. Damn, that's true.

Yeah, that's true. Don't talk about that. Well, how you feeling? Happy holidays, man. Nah, I appreciate y'all. I'm feeling good, man. You know, just landed this morning, so I'm good. I feel like the Crossroads, which is your new project,

I feel like it should be in a lot of rap album of the year categories. I concur. Yeah, I agree. Why do you think it's not? Because all the black people got fired at Atlantic, so it ain't no team. Jesus. Oh my goodness. Look at Spade.

You know what? Well, God has a store for me no man can get in the way of. That's right. And I think post-album marketing is just as important, if not more important, than pre-album marketing. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've had albums to where they really get their legs like six months later after it comes out,

you know what I'm saying? You still, you got a tour, you got a, I mean, the album's been out a month and I'm doing this with y'all. It's gonna be a bunch of new people who may not have even known I dropped something that see this, so I think post album, post release marketing is just like super important, you know.

You know we had a boss man D-Lo up here and he said that he values reaction over sales. So what do you consider successful this album or any album? I guess it depends on how you define reaction. So, but I guess how people, I don't know, cause I try not to put like, because I'm an artist and I'm sensitive about my shit,

right, the quote, Erica. So I try not to put too much like, I guess thought or energy into reaction. But I'll be alive, I say it don't feel good when people are like, yo, I love this album. I've been getting a lot of that amongst this album. A lot of people telling me it's my best work. I'm seeing it online. A bunch of people rock with it.

But for me, it's when I'm performing it. That validation for me is when I'm performing it and people are reciting the lyrics to me, people are coming to see me when I'm out and about, and people are coming up like, yo, this line, just really registered with me. This song really connected with me. Me and my family talked about this,

and so I guess that's the validation more so. So that's success to you when people know your stuff, listen to your stuff, your chord. You don't need a number to make it successful, or do you? No, just more so I think to the point we just made earlier, and even to Boss D-Lo's point, is just like people liking it people enjoying it It does feel good when people enjoy your music, right as an artist like you gotta have can I curse?

Yeah, okay You gotta have a sense of like not giving a fuck you gotta like when you're in there creating and you put it out You got you got to think like I don't give a fuck what people think like truly That's the only way you're gonna ever put anything out, right? But it at the same token it feels really good when people actually do like the work that you put in now. So that feels good to get such like positive like feedback from real people and fans that's out there that I'm meeting in real life and like fans online. But then also again that validation for me is when I'm performing it and people are rapping the lyrics back to me.

Coming to see me perform the music. So that is.... So validation comes in a multitude of ways for sure. Why is it called The Crossroads? You said it's your third time up here, it's also your third album. This is The Crossroads, does that have something to do with your personal life? How you feel? At what point in your life are you right now?

Yeah, I feel- Did you think you were dying or something? Oh my God, I rebuke that. This is not about the bone thugs and harmony. The crossroads can mean a number of things, sir. But, um. Yes. Well, I did sample Bone Thug, yeah, on the intro.

But more so for me, I had to pay homage if I'm gonna call the album The Crossroads. I gotta bring some Bone Thugs in it. But for me, just more so, it's like, when I was making this, the crossroads represent for me is like not necessarily know where I'm going. And when I was making this album, I kept saying I'm at a crossroads, I'm at a crossroads, I say it like on like seven different songs before I even knew the title of the project.

And so I'm like, why I keep saying this in music? Am I at a crossroads? And so like, you know, quarter Life Crisis is like a real thing. Quarter Life Crisis. Yeah, do you never heard of that? No. Yeah, yeah. You know, I think somebody, I forgot who it was,

artists made an album called Quarter Life Crisis, I can't think of the name of it. I don't think it was like a really big album, but like I looked at it, it's a thing. I don't know if it's a thing, but I seen it there, and it's a thing, right? How old are you now, like 30? No, oh my God, I'm 27, bro. No, not 30!

No! I'm a fresh 27 too. But even that 27 club, you know, not to speak that energy, I'm gonna live a long, prosperous life. But yeah, just more so the feeling of unknowing of where I'm going next, you know what I'm saying? And that's an exciting thing, but it's also, it's fucking scary, honestly.

So that's how I came up with the crossroads. I don't believe in vision boards and stuff like that. I mean, cause you know, they always say, you can tell God your plans, but God will laugh at you. Like your good plan is God's plan for you. Yeah, we plan God laughs. Yeah, that's a proverb. But I think it's a Yiddish proverb.

But I say all this to say, yeah, I definitely make vision boards. I do like a planner at the end of every year, beginning of next year. I've been doing, I write in my little notebook while I journal a lot. And honestly, yo, I knocked out a bunch of stuff that I wrote down.

I did like a thought bubble of goals more so at the end of last year. And I knocked out a bunch of stuff that I wrote down I did like a thought bubble of goals more so at the end of last year and I knocked out a bunch of those stuff like one of my thought bubbles was like to have a song with with uh what yay formerly known as Kanye West that was on my thought bubble and um so yeah I do vision boards I write down goals and dreams and stuff but I haven't done a vision board since 2018 so I literally thought about that like a couple days ago I'm like nah at the end of this year I'm gonna do another vision board but I always like done a vision board since 2018 so I literally thought about that like a couple days ago. I'm like nah at the end of this year I'm gonna do another vision board but I always like write down my goals and stuff for the next year for sure.

But even with that you don't know where you want to go? Now I do know where I want to go but it's more like just you can have an idea of where you want to go but where you actually go it is sometimes a difference. Sometimes you write on the money like I want like, yo, I want to do this, I wanna do this, this, here, this, this, and that. And then your path came like, well, I did this, this, and that, but actually that wasn't right for me. You know what I'm saying?

So God brought me here. But what I've learned is too, was like, what's meant for you will never miss you. No matter how hard you try to fuck it up. You know what I'm saying? What's never meant for me, excuse me, what's meant for me will never miss me, you know? How has your life changed now that you have a child, right? Because your daughter is one years old?

Yeah, one and a half. One and a half years? Yes, sir. So how has things changed as a young father? Yeah, for me it's more having a respect for my time, you know what I'm saying? Being more like disciplined when it comes to my time and also having more respect for other people's time,

you know, because I'm like, I want people to respect my time because I got kids, I can, you know, when I leave the house, it needs to be something important or something that I love to do, something that's fulfilling. Fulfillment for me is going into the studio, enjoying good times with friends, you know. My job is, I mean, you know this is essentially,

I want, this doesn't even feel like a job to me though, to be honest, you know, this is essentially, this doesn't even feel like a job to me though, to be honest, but I say this to say- Yeah, you don't even take your coat off. Yeah, no, exactly. It's a fresh coat. But I say all this to say, yeah, when I leave the house, it has to be something important, you know?

So it just really has me focused on like time management and versus before, like I'll be, you know, as an artist, like you'll be in the studio from like 9 p.m. to 6 a.m. one day then the next day might be like from 7 p.m. to 3 a.m. so you kind of all over the place versus like when since I had a daughter it's like now I'm in the studio from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. six days a week and then three out of those six days I come back to the studio from like 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. So it's more of like a regimented of me like recording and stuff.

And I think I'm more productive now because I don't take my time for granted, you know? That feel like work though? Like if you set like work hours, nine to six, because creativity comes all the time today, all the time tonight. Yeah, that's why I do that. That's why I do three times a day, I do it at night too.

But I've noticed all the most successful artists that I've talked with or linked with, they work like that. Like Pharrell, he works from like 9 a.m. to like 3 a.m. He works at like a 9 to 5. I've seen him somewhere. Eminem is in the studio every day from 9 to 5. He takes a lunch break at noon. You know what I'm saying? A bunch of other successful artists, I know they're like on a regimented schedule because is I know they're like on a regimented schedule because where I guess motivation is low, that's where discipline kicks in. Or inspiration is low, that's where discipline comes in.

And what I've learned too is like every verse that I write is equity. You know what I'm saying? Whether that verse makes the album or not, that verse can be used for, let's say somebody wants me on their song, I can use that verse for that song, I can use that verse for like a movie sync, a video game sync, you know what I'm saying? And so me, I really, it doesn't feel like work to me above all else because like I love doing this.

Like I love like being in the dojo if you would, you know? And I switch up the times and locations of where I cook at. Like I might like rent out an Airbnb for like two months, bring all my studio equipment there and we just creating I cook at. Like I might like run out of Airbnb for like two months, bring all my studio equipment there and we just creating out of there. I might, you know, I find creative ways to get creative. I saw one of those crazy YouTube videos and it said,

why Cordae's career hit a crossroad, album flops horrendously. Yeah. Do you feel your, you just said it, you feel you at a crossroads, but do you feel like your album flopped? No, because like, probability of that, it's like some white boy in Indiana.

Not that it's a race thing, but it's like the truth of the people that run those. And like, if you look at channels like that, their whole channel subscribes to a bunch of negativity. Like, that's like what they're about. So you can nitpick every artist in music. You could find something negative and nitpick at where like they lack of,

where they lack in some department. You know what I'm saying? But no, because like I had other albums that didn't have like a strong first week. But again, my tour ended up doing super well. And then later on it grows and becomes like a larger thing. Like why spend all this time focusing on one week? One week we gonna spend all this time focusing on one week when there is 52 weeks out of

the year like you want to just give up on an album because like it didn't have a super strong first week you know what I'm saying? Excuse me what I'm saying and um I think I get compared to like mega stars. Like if you compare like a Cordae first week sales to like a Kendrick Lamar first week sales, of course there's a discrepancy. But when it comes to like my actual peers that do the type of music that I do,

it's all like a balance, it's there. We're all doing the same comparative numbers. Even though comparison is a thief of joy, but just that's a whole nother perspective. But yeah, no, I have no worry about what some white man says about my career. And what's your relationship with Wayne? I see Wayne on a project a couple times.

Oh, Wayne is the one. I've gained so many gems from Wayne. Honestly, when it comes to creativity, when it comes to creating music, when it comes to, like he gave me some gems of like, you have to treat every single song like it's people's first time hearing you.

And it sounds so simple, but it like lit a fire under my brain of like, nah son, like that is, yo, it's so simple, but it says so much of like what happens is I've been blessed I have like a core audience and the core fans that like rocks with me no matter what I put out but that can also become a hindrance because you in the studio you like yo my fans gonna love this regardless like no matter what I do versus you taking that approach of like

I got to make a first impression on people I got to treat every song like it's people's first time hearing it, it makes you like really like want to give it your all if that makes sense and want to make sure like yo is this worth hearing? You want to make a good first impression and that way the fans that you already have, they're gonna be like oh my god this is the greatest thing in the world and for somebody who's like 50-50 on you who may be like okay I heard a song, I heard a freestyle, I don't know like that here a song then or an album then then they like oh no like they legit you know

so um I think that was a huge thing I learned from Wayne and also like that work ethic just by just what he teaches by by doing you know what I'm saying like his I've been able to be blessed to watch him up close and his work ethic is like incredible and his love for music it just never goes. And you understand why he sold like 300 million records and been, he's like hip-hop's Michael Jackson, if you would. Because if you think about it, there's not that many people that were like child stars that went on to become superstars and more successful

as they get older, you know what I'm saying? Have you ever told you why he likes to collaborate with you? No, I don't ask. I didn't ask. He's got two songs on this album. Yeah, no, no, I don't ask, but, um... I mean, he definitely, like, gives me my props and my loves and just like, yeah, you want...

I mean, he says I'm a killer, you know what I'm saying? He's like, no, you a killer, like, why... Like, you scary, you know what I'm saying? So he's like, yo, you a killer and you scary, so I would assume. That's why you know How many songs y'all got in the vote together? One joint we got one on like unreleased joint okay? Yeah, but it's um yeah that that mentorship and that guidance is like You is you can't put a price tag. How'd y'all meet? Um like how you whispered that I guess

That's what you wanted to hear I didn't say like that wild. How'd y'all meet? I didn't whisper nothing. That's what you wanted to hear. I didn't say it like that. I said, how'd y'all meet? Actually, he had a- Good job, Cordae. Just ignore him. Good job. Yeah, nah, it's all good.

You've done this before. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's not my first. You're the first one, obviously. We said what I was finna say. Oh, yeah, yeah, how we meet? I did an interview with- he had a Young Money, not had, he has a Young Money radio.

Oh, the Apple Show. Yeah, so we started with that. Then I got his number, he shot me his number through there and it's just been like back and forth since then, you know? I think we gotta stop saying things like the hip hop Michael Jackson. Yeah. Only because Wayne is Wayne and he's an all time great.

I think sometimes when we make those comparisons it puts unrealistic expectations because I don't think people realize how big Michael Jackson Well, I think y'all generation says that shit. Yeah, but y'all really don't realize how big Michael Jackson He's sold a hundred million records on one album. They had to be there You know what I mean to sell a hundred million records off one album when people had to get up and go to the store? That's also a different thing, going back to our earlier points with how albums are consumed,

because when Michael Jackson sold 100 million records, 100 million people or 30 million people three times, you had to actually leave your house and go to the store to buy an album, versus now, like the Spotify, Apple music streaming equivalents, you gotta stream, a song has to stream 1,500 times, to count as like one singular unit,

to where you can have like 500,000 people all streaming your music, once, and it equates to like, I can't do the math on the top of my head, but like not like a high number. So I say, going back to on the top of my head, but like not like a high number. So I say going back to the original point of the Wayne, you know what? I find comparison is the easiest way to describe something.

You know what I'm saying? Like comparison is like the easiest way to describe something. So just my more so point was like, it's like my child star growing to now. Yeah. And being even more successful and better as an adult, you know what I'm saying? So that was the whole point. But yeah, now Michael, I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan, but I was born in 97, you know what I'm saying?

So that was like what? His story. Oh yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, yeah, like Invincible. I was there for Invincible. Yeah, that was like one of those. So I love Invincible by the way.

That album, he got the, the flowatree joint on there, the butterflies. So what do you think about streaming? Because I see you broke it down. So you really thought about streaming, right? And like you think about it, if I stream your full album and I only stream it once, that doesn't count as a sale, which is wild. You have to stream it 1,500 times. That count as one.

Which is wild. So what's your thoughts on the streaming process? And I know you're signed, but would you ever say, you know what, I'm going to go direct to Kusuma? Yeah, for sure. And you know what? It's a bunch of like, I always have these, because I love music, I love hip hop. I'm always having like, not always, but I have these talks like amongst my friends of like the difference or like even amongst other artists friends or like the pros and cons of being an artist today versus like let's say the 90s, right? Like in the 90s, even early 2000s, they made a lot more money off like actual music.

Off the actual music because it was physical sales. You know what I'm saying? So where like, again, when you sold 1 million records, that mean 1 million people bought it and it was let's say $10 a copy to where like, yo, you're actually making, so my bad to go into tenure. So back in the 90s, 2000s, right?

They made more money off the actual music, off music sales, publishing, et cetera. But they weren't making as much on ancillaries like touring, merch, brand endorsements. So today we had, like I was in a Coca-Cola Super Bowl commercial as Cordae and I say that to say like I am like in the 80s 90s you had to be like the like Michael Jackson was in like a Coca-Cola Pepsi yeah Super Bowl

commercial or like you know commercial whatever right so I say this to say um back in the 90s they didn't have too many like ancillary opportunities they weren't making as much money on shows and stuff like that. Today we make more money off shows, festivals, brands, et cetera, but it doesn't make as much on the actual music because the way music is scaled is like kinda crazy.

I don't know, I just don't know. I'm not gonna act like an expert on it. It's just like super complicated, but pros and cons are both, you know. It might even out and balance out, you know, but pros and cons are both. It might even out and balance out, but it's just different. Now, in the song 06 Dreaming, you talk about your mom and her musical dreams

and how she tried out for making a band and American Idol. And you sampled one of her old songs. How did she feel about that when she heard it? Oh, she liked it. She liked it a lot, yeah. She definitely liked it, because it's just like a, that's one of my favorite songs, because it's obviously it's close to home, but it's like a story of irony of just like, and also a story of how like, you can love something so much that it gets passed down to your kids,

whether you like it and whether you know you have an influence on that like outwardly or not, you know? and whether you have an influence on that outwardly or not. And so I love it again, because it's a close to home, it's a story of irony. And it's just hip hop. I sampled one of my mom's old songs, and y'all telling the story. I mean, she definitely got her pub and points for sure.

She ain't charged me, I made sure. She eating off that, you know what I'm saying? So she got a just do for sure. So I say all this to say, yeah, nah, thank you, I rock with that song a lot ain't you kind of glad she ain't make the band I know yours static she's on the record you said uh I can't remember what the line was but you say you basically said you think puff is a victim of his own karma he made him run six miles and your mom didn't make the

band so do you really do you think that? Do you think Puff is a victim of his own kind? Cause you said look at Puff now. That's one way that it can be interpreted. It can be interpreted in a bunch of different ways, you know? It just depends on like what lens or what ear you listening to it. But um.

So what'd you mean by the bar? You know what? To be honest, like that bar was something I was so hesitant on saying because above all else, not even above all else, above all else, I'm a human being, right? But being a human being, I'm super pro-black.

And publicly, I don't ever wanna speak bad about another black man. But damn, this nigga's making it hard. You know what I'm saying? Honestly, pause. Oh my god. Oh my god. Super pause. Crazy. Yo, like pause. Oh my God. Oh my God. Super pause.

Crazy. Yo my goodness. She just said Puff is making it hard. Pause. Crazy. Yo. You know what I'm meant by that. No I don't, Corgis.

No we don't. No we don't. Hey, hey, nah nigga, we ain't finna do this. We ain't finna do this. The pause, the pauses that you have. That's facts. He got some pauses. So I say this to say, go back to my,

man let's leave this shit alone man. There's no right answer to this shit. I tried to mother fucking juke around this shit, you know, but y'all some, but yeah, to my point, like I don't ever wanna publicly speak down on another black man, but like, oh, you know, it's like fuck. You got a song on the album with Kanye,

you talked about it earlier, it's called No Bad Juice. Why would you do that? No Bad Juice. Yo, you crazy, man. No, yo, you're crazy. It's called No Bad News. Oh, news, yes, you're right, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, it's called No Bad News.

How was that, cause I know he's on your Mount Rushmore. Yeah, I mean, bro, bucket. Where'd you get juice from? Yo, it's his name. I thought it was called. It might be a typo, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, bucket. Where'd you get juice from? Yo. That's why I thought it was cold. This might be a tight ball. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's definitely a dream come true bucket list. What did you learn from that session? I mean, yo, Ye's one of the goats. Like, I had a different hook for that song. And he sent over notes. And like, instead of saying this, you know say this Yeah, so let me finish. Okay. Okay My bad my bad came up you been

You been throwing me like I'm just messing with you I know you just talked You called it no bad news. He wanted to call it something else No, no, that's not the title There was no back and forth over the title But yeah, basically like yo, I mean, point blank period, he's a genius,

creative genius at the highest level. What can I say about him creatively that he doesn't already know and that we as the world doesn't already know. But definitely a bucket list to work with him for sure. What kind of space is he in right now? I can't speak for another man. You know what I'm saying?

Were y'all together in the studio? No, no, no, we weren't all together. It was all remote. So I don't wanna speak for another man. I love the record All Alone. Oh, thank you. What do you think could fill that void of loneliness for you?

I don't know, cause it's funny about that song too, because I actually had sampled, It's funny about that song too, because I actually had sampled, it was this Korean jazz artist who did a cover of that song, but the person who owns the master hates that person. And so we went back, went back, and I found the Luther sample,

which is super dope too, that he cleared that. Luther don't let you curse on this shit either. That's a whole nother story. But yeah, so I guess what fills that void? My family, you know what I'm saying? First and foremost, I could have went straight to that, but being around my family definitely helps that. Enjoying life experiences with my family

helps fill that void because I mean, being a generational curse breaker,, it's a lonely road. You know what I'm saying? It's not for the weak. Being a famous or an artist with a platform, that shit is not for the weak. Like you said earlier, somebody's always gonna have something to say, no matter what.

People are always gonna have, especially in the zeitgeist of this earth, it's like negativity is just like, it connects the most. You know what I'm saying, unfortunately. And so, yeah, so at times, you know, you can't feel alone, but for me, feeling that void is like, you know, being around family, being around my daughter, and enjoying life and making memories with them,

and building my own tribe of like community. You know what I'm saying? Because I feel like in hip hop, and black people in general, not to speak for the general consensus, but there needs to be a lot less competition in a lot more community. I can speak on that for hip hop for sure.

I love the competitiveness when we going at it, when everybody going at it with the bars, because that's the genesis of hip hop. That's the heart of hip hop. But as far as just like, sharing knowledge, sharing information, resources, connecting, I feel like there needs to be a greater sense of community, you know, so, yeah.

I wonder about that often. Sometimes I think it's too many of us to ever have a sense of community. Like, you'll find your tribe, and amongst your tribe you'll have community, but black people aren't monolithic. You're talking about 40-plus million people. Yeah. I don't amongst your tribe you'll have community, but black people aren't monolithic. You talking about 40 plus million people. I don't know if you can ever have community

amongst 40 plus million people. What does monolithic mean? Means that all of us aren't the same. Okay, yeah, I thought so, I just wanted to make sure. But yeah, I mean, and that's the beauty about being black. Like, I think, you ever heard of RDC? They're like the comedian, they're like a group of comedians and shit online. They do skits and shit.

But they have this thing called, they have this con that they have, it's like a festival if you would, in Austin, Texas. And it's basically like a safe place for black nerds that love anime. But it's like, yo, you wouldn't think, if you're just like, not wouldn't think, but I'm just like, yo, the fact that you found like your niche audience

and made a safe space, because it's like 30,000 people and it's all people that love like anime and shit like that, and so, just going back to the point of just like, you know, community, I don't know, I think community is important, and find it, you don't have, you're never gonna find one person that agrees with you on 100% of everything, or one person that likes 100% of everything that you like, but finding a community

of just good people that look like you, or don't look like you, but have the same morals, values, and on the same wavelength. I think that's super important, of just finding, creating your community of like-minded individuals. And I think in hip-hop, specifically like, I guess lyricism or substance-driven artists,

like that, I can sense that's something that needs to be like, build upon, you know? Mm. You got a question, Jess? So, yeah, I did have a question a long time ago. I see. Ooh. Yeah, I know that you said you like to,

you know, be with your baby girl, your daughter. How are you and Naomi though? We good. I just seen that y'all had a date night a couple nights ago at Jamie Foxx. Y'all was at something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, nah, we good, man. Y'all know because y'all don't post each other so much. People even speculate about that. Maybe they broke up or anything that speaks to what you were talking about, about just everything connecting negatively. Yeah, for sure. Me, honestly, I am a super private person. I am like, I try my best as much as I can be

when it comes to my personal life to be super private, as much as I can be. Because some stuff you gotta keep for yourself, and when you allow outside opinion, when you let, and outside opinions can be family members, you know what I'm saying? And that can get in the way of stuff that's important to you.

So man, when you add the world to that, that's a whole nother thing. And so I try to be as private, well I'm speaking on it now, but I try to be as private as I possibly can about like my personal life, like you know, even with my daughter and you know, my relationship and stuff. Do you still talk to the YBN crew?

I talk to Almighty J. I don't really talk to Namir like that, to be honest. Why? I don't know. For me, no matter what Namir got to say about me publicly, there's always a level of respect and appreciation that I have for Namir that like nobody can ever get me to like talk bad about Namir.

You know what I'm saying? Cause like, yo, that dude threw me the oop and I caught it and dunked it. He shined that light on me and I'm like, I'm not even saying this to be like politically correct. It's just the God's honor truth. I'm super grateful for him. He changed my life. You know what I'm saying?

For lack of a better word. And so like I said, he shined that light on me, threw me the oop, I called it, windmilled it, and I got so much love for him. I talk to Namir mom more than I talk to Namir. You know what I'm saying? That's how that is. So yeah.

I was gonna ask you. Will y'all ever talk? Yeah, for sure. It'll be random birthdays and stuff. The distant relative is like the best comparison For communication like I remember when I did Coachella like two years ago I wanted to bring him out for that cuz I'm like, yo, that'd be crazy just on some stuff but um, he want to do it for whatever reason I saying it was like any bad blood but um,

Yeah now like I said when I'm here bro, like I got so much like love and appreciation for him that again, even if it ain't the same way, it's nothing that he can say that ever make me forget like all the love that he has shown me, you know? I was gonna ask, how do you deal with social media? Are you on social media because between your girl, yourself, if she has a bad game, they blame it on you. Yeah.

If you have a bad album, they blame it on her. So it's like, how do you deal with that as far as mentally and even in your relationship? Well, it comes down to like, I've truly like, I don't give a fuck, bro, what people think. Because people, I've learned too, that internet isn't a real place. Like, it has influence, right?

It does have influence. But it's not a real place. And people are always going to say something. People nitpick anything apart. Like literally people always find something negative. And the most positive stuff, Charlamagne, you can do a toy drive and give away $100,000 worth of gifts.

And if you got a cameraman there, niggas gonna be like, oh, you just did it for the camera. And let's just say you did, you overlooked the positive part of like, yo, this nigga just gave away $100,000 worth of gifts, you know what I'm saying? And so people always gonna have something to say. And the sooner you realize that is like, bro, y'all can all suck my dick, you know what I'm saying? Pause, you know what I'm saying?

And it's crazy that nobody ever brings that up for the negative stuff, right? Like somebody can just be online flossing, have the money phone to their ear, doing it for the camera, but nobody ever says, you just doing that for the camera. But anything positive, you just doing for the camera. It makes no sense. Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. Yeah, no, it's, I mean, but the state of the world, no, the state of, it does, it, my, again, I'm an artist.

It's best it has to be for your girl because it's like, they attack everything. And it's like, damn, I'm an artist. Especially it has to be for your girl, because it's like, they attack everything. And it's like, damn, leave her alone. Yeah, for me, I can't speak what she feels. I ain't gonna speak for her, but I'll be the worst PR person forever. But I say all this to say, for me, again, I am an artist, and I'm sensitive about my shit.

And with this album, yo, it's been been like people been fucking loving the album, you know what I'm saying? Like it's been across the board, like yo, I really fuck with this album, it really connects with me. But I'm at a place now where you don't create, I was doing a stream with Omdonte, this kid Omdonte, black streamer, super dope, super funny. And like I was telling him like, bro, like even with these streamers, and not to say like I'm all knowing and shit,

we figuring this shit out day by day, but it's like, their next move is based on what the fucking chat is saying. You know what I'm saying? They're like, what they say, their whole mood is based on what the chat is saying. I'm like, I get it, that's your job, but like you can't live like that.

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They're gonna look at them comments, them YouTube pages, and it will influence every single thing they do. I think the most power that you can give yourself in this era is to disconnect from all of that and have an opinion, or create art, and not even worry about what anybody on social media is gonna say. No, cause they're always gonna say something.

It's always gonna be negative. And so what I've learned is, let's say even back to an album, like if people, I've learned to like not give a fuck because let's say everybody loves this album. Like again, it's been like really positive feedback on this album. I fuck with it.

Nah, thank you. Appreciate it. But let's say you drop an album and everybody's like, this is the greatest shit ever, this is the classic. You can let that get to your head and create an ego of like, oh, I am as great as they say I am. Then your next album, people might not love it. And they're like, oh, this is shit.

And it can fuck with your confidence. Like, damn, maybe I am shit like they say I am. And so when you know who you are, nobody can tell you who you are from my experience. And so that's why it comes down to like, I don't give a fuck what people think, whether it's great or bad, you know what I'm saying? And like, yo, like I can sleep well at night.

You know what I'm saying? I know I put a bunch of work in in the music. I can live with that, you know know no matter what the outcome is now It gets tricky when like if you be honest with yourself you like damn I could have put more time and effort into this I could have put more thought and energy into this and then people don't Like it and then it's like yeah Damn, the niggas might be saying some shit You know what I'm saying, but if you like truly put your all into it your heart into it and like people like y'all this shit You know, it's like yo, fuck them like suck a dick. I'll try next time, you know

Oh, I'll try next time. God damn, you know what I mean. No, I don't. Oh my god Do you question it by the way? I've been hanging with my little brother and them they some young niggas They like 20 and so my Paul's radar has been like through the roof Yeah, yeah, it mean it like I pick up the pause. I'll usually pause myself first and others. You got gay ears. Pause. It's fun.

No, no, ain't nothing homosexual about nothing on this part. If that's somebody's prerogative, that's all them. But anywho, what would you finish up? I got gay ears. You got more than gay ears. You got more than gay ears, bro. He got more than gay ears. Hey, hey, live your truth, brother. By all means, this is a safe place and we have, we got an abundance of love and joy

for you no matter, you know, what you like doing your free time. When you write, because of the mother of your child, you question your lyrics, for example, like when I hear pray, is Pray about Naomi? I try to make my music as from my heart and relatable as possible. And also I answer that with, I just let the music speak for itself. A lot of insecurity you showing on that record.

I just, I let the, because I'm so, and also too, because I'm so vulnerable in my music, that's why I don't do too many interviews. Like I said, you know, this is my like third time on here. You know, we have a rapport now to where I can't come with y'all with, well I can, but like, I'm not gonna come with y'all, not to say there's anything wrong with people that do this, but I'm not gonna come

with y'all with a list of like shit to not talk about. You know what I'm saying? So I say all this- You can't when you got a bar that says you never gonna be in interviews and not be authentic That is true. That's a bar So I say this to say because I am to be authentic right because I am so vulnerable and personal in my music It's some stuff. I rather not go into detail and over explain it, because it kinda is like a magician revealing the magic, the trick, so yeah.

Do you feel like sometimes being the boyfriend overshadows, being the boyfriend of her overshadows you being Cordae? Nah, because I was Cordae first, and I'm very confident in myself as a, I don't really like to pop my shit, but I'm a super successful young black man young black man you know what I'm saying like I'm wealthy I'm blessed I do it and above all else I'm a man of God and I'm a proud not prideful but I am a very unapologetic black man you know what I'm saying and

when I say all that to say, yeah, no, there isn't. All right. All right, well. Oh, I got some more questions. Okay. Wait, then, nigga. We here, baby, we here. Don't try, don't give me the 30 minute one, nigga. Never see it with Juicy J.

Mm-hmm. You say you might see me stressing over blessings that I prayed for. Yeah. And I wanna talk about that line because I overstand it. Yeah. Expound on that for people. Like, bro, like this shit is stressful, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, um,

People can come into interviews And be stressed out based on the questions that they're getting. Like you just asked me about two super controversial Top, not to say that's a bad thing, but like one can view that as like fucking oh my god stressful But I pray for, let's leave it alone. My bad for bringing it up. We ain't bringing it back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we gonna leave that in the seven minute mark.

But I say all this to say of like, yeah, you might, a nigga do be stressing over shit I pray for, you know what I'm saying? Like I pray for, you know, the quote meek middle not to bring it back, you know, I pray for times like this. And if you really a killer, you really love this shit, and you really dedicated to this craft, it's not for the week.

It's not easy, bro. It's not easy. It's not for the week. It's not easy. I over understand that. I'm super blessed, bro. Like, some days when I'm stressed out, bro, I do retail therapy and I go shopping. I know that's a lot of things that people can't do. You know what I'm saying? But what's the most difficult thing you have to deal with?

Because people look at your life and be like, you popping, you got a great career, you got a family, you got a kid. I'm handsome. He's like, never forget that, y'all gay, why y'all ain't say that first? Yeah. Yeah.

I'm six feet tall and shit, you know, super handsome. We get it, we get it. I was waiting for somebody to say it. You handsome, yo, you handsome as well. Hey, appreciate you. I don't play gay on the radio, I'm not really gay. What I was finna say, damn. I was asking what bothers you the most out of everything.

Oh, honestly, it can't- Most difficult thing to deal with. It's the thing that's like whatever's currently, presently in front of me. Like at that time, it's not like, oh my God, this, um, Dinkleberg, you know what I'm saying? Y'all might be too old for that reference. But it's not like one constant thing or one enemy. When I say enemy, I don't mean like person. I mean like thing. What is a Dinkleberg?

I can't even- I, I mean like thing. What is a dingle bird, I can't even. I heard a dodo bird. Okay, it's a fairly odd parent's reference, it's this cartoon and shit. But that was like the nigga Timmy Turner's dad, like arch nemesis, but that was the same nemesis every episode, so my bad. Oh, I didn't read the wrong.

God, no, no, it's not for us. It's your old ass niggas, big old ass niggas. No, no, no. I told you it ain't nowhere near 30, you told us that, Earth. I know, it's not for us. You're the last thing in the world. No, no, no. I ain't know where they at 30. You told us that earlier. I'm still by CDs. It's fine. Can you put us on to something?

Yeah, nah, for real. So I'll say this to say, it's never one constant enemy. It's always just, it'd be some different shit every day. Like literally, you know what I'm saying? Like some different shit every day. And so you have to conquer that. You have to be bigger than your issues. You have to be solution-based.

And I try and one thing I've learned to be is like solution-based. Let's make the most out of any given situation. And that's why I am as successful as I am and why I'm gonna get to where I want and need to be you know, in life. And so yeah, it's some different shit literally fucking every day.

And you just gotta be, and that's for anybody in life. I know it's a million motherfuckers that may watch this or listen to this. It'd be some different shit every day. No matter what stage of life that you're on, you just gotta be solution-based and like, you know, yeah, just try to be as solution-based as possible. And it causes levels of anxiety in you, right?

Because you know it's a blessing from God. You feel like you're not appreciating it. Then you feel like damn, is God gonna take it away from me because I don't appreciate it? It's not that I don't appreciate it. It's just stress that comes with it. Nah, that's a fact. I mean, heavy is the head, bro.

Heavy is the head. And yeah, heavy is the head. And so you gotta, if you ask for, what great, you know, not the, I was trying to not to if you ask for what great you know not the I was trying to not to quote fucking Stan Lee but you know a great power and platform comes you know great responsibility and so when you ask for massive things you've got to be pause you got to be ready to deal what comes with it you know what I'm saying be ready for the responsibility of it and so

like my therapist told me there's no either or. Meaning that you can't have Cordae's success without having Cordae's problems. Exactly. And any, yeah, exactly. Now you did post a picture of yourself on the beach. I was just tracing X and Y. And you put hashtag free Luigi. Yeah.

People were mad at you about that. They are? They assumed the free Luigi... Who's people? Who is this target demographic of people that's mad? Who these people are? Cause I didn't know that. Nigga, are you mad, nigga?

I'm not joking. I'm not joking. People are mad at Free Luigi because, you know, Luigi, if it's the same Luigi, we don't know. He's the gentleman that killed the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. Yeah, I know my nigga Luigi Mario Bravo was locked up, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a kid, yo.

Okay. But, anywho, but, yo, I'm just in a space now. Another big thing that I, like, the, like, one crossroad I've gotten past is, like, being super, I feel like because, um, I'd say I've done a lot of things that I wanted to do thus far, right? And I know so much more that I gotta do.

I'm still on this, this journey. If you look at all my albums, they all represent a journey from the lost boy to the crossroads. If you look at it, it's all a journey because that's kind of what life is, right? So on this particular moment in my journey, I felt as though in the past,

I've been a little too scared to be canceled, for lack of a better word, or fearful to say what I really feel about certain shit. And because of protecting what I've built, you know what I'm saying? When you build and saved up millions of dollars, or you've built up a bunch of shit, or a brand, or whatever the case may be, a company, business, you want to protect that. And sometimes protecting that causes fear, and you to move through fear. So I've kind of entered into this space now

of like, yeah, I'm a creative first, I'm an artist first, and I gotta just say what's on my mind. Like, you know, don't be an idiot, you know what I'm saying? Don't be dumb, you know? But like, yo, don't be as like politically correct and like scared to offend anybody

because you're just going to be bland if you're just like, oh, I don't wanna offend this person, I don't want to offend this person or I don't want to offend this person I don't want to make this person mad you know what I'm saying to where like I've been doing that hella like in my creative and so I want to do that shit like yeah I just thought that shit was funny I mean bro you know he um I don't want to speak on that too much to be honest. I don't think you thought it was funny. No, no, no, not that was funny, but I don't think he is a monster. You know what? I'm going to say this.

This is going to be my politically correct answer, but it's also my authentic true self. I'm not going to say this is a medium, but authentically, me as an individual, I am not well-researched enough on the montrosities of the healthcare industry and what the guy that got killed had to do with it. I just know that the American healthcare industry is fucked up, so I don't wanna speak on the assassination of that particular individual without doing my proper research on what that particular individual

had to do with the overall scope of the fucked up. You already put free Luigi. Too late. You picked the side. You know, free that nigga. Well, your initial caption was, do you feel guilty on vacation? Explain that. Yeah, because, yeah, I do because, um, not, yeah, it's just like you there and you're kind of thinking like, okay, what could I be doing?

What else could I be doing? Like working versus like, working versus, like, you know, just chilling. But sometimes, as an artist, you gotta live life to have shit to talk about, or else you just gonna talk about, I'm in the studio all day working, nigga, grinding bars is life, you know what I'm saying?

You gotta live life to talk about it. And so, yeah, man, like, again, this whole entertainment business is like a journey. You know what I'm saying? Like when you first started to where you're at, it's been a level up, a journey. You know what I'm saying? Same to all of y'all. You know what I'm saying?

And so I'm recognizing, and sometimes that difficult point is all these self-help books about how to get from zero to 100. But you kind of got to figure out yourself when you reach that first major milestone, a big goal about how to get to that next level. That's some shit you got to figure out like through trial and error, through mentorship, through community or through fucking up. And so like I said, I'm super blessed, bro. I can acknowledge the fact that I'm super blessed.

I thank God every day, literally. But I still have a lot more to do and I know the work that that takes acknowledge the fact that I'm super blessed. I thank God every day, literally. But I still have a lot more to do and I know the work that that takes, the dedication that that takes, and the thick skin that that takes. Pause. A good book that you can get is The Big Leap. Okay.

Conquer Your Hidden Fear and Take Life to the Next Level by Gay Hendrix. That's really his name. Okay. And it's a fantastic book. I was a little scared too. It's for people who are at 100, who are looking to either stay there

or get to that next level. Well, see, that's why mentors are important because I just said there isn't a book that exists. And you know what's funny? Questlove put me onto that book a couple years ago. You know what's funny? I was watching y'all interview with Nip a couple weeks ago. Rest in peace to Nip.

Yeah, RIP Nip. And that had me pick up The Way of the Superior Man. You know what I'm saying? So I've been reading that. And well, I bought the book. I read like four pages of it. Don't, you know, whatever. Listen to the audio.

Yeah, yeah. Now I enjoy reading, cause I like highlighting it to where like I like to go back to it and shit. But yeah, no. So yeah, each one teach one. So thank you for that. I definitely picked that up. Another line on Never See It,

you said you would never see me partying with the Michael Rubens. Yeah. Why is that? So look, let me say this, right? He has this, it's crazy because he has this program called Reform that actually got, that does amazing work, honestly,

and it got a bunch of people out. It actually got some of my closest friends out of jail, straight up out of prison, got them an appeal. They do amazing work, right? So I will wanna start off by saying that. But I mean, bro, it's just going back to that place of me being a free creative in the studio. It's like, yo, this shit just seem a little off,

you know what I'm saying? But you know what's crazy? I actually, I've never met that nigga before before I said that line. He's not a one. And you know what I mean? Oh, my God. Not a little. It's crazy. God, you know what you're doing?

Oh, my God. This is why you nitpicking me, man. Damn. Oh, my God. Anywho, you never met him before. Yeah. Yeah, so I never when I said that line in like again So going back to you fucking up my train of thought It is impossible for me to so um So going back to my point early of like I just want to be a free creative You know what I'm saying and say what I feel if. And that includes humor, you know what I'm saying?

Some of my favorite rappers had like social commentary through humor. And so like, I've always done that since the very beginning, but when I got lit and shit to lose, I stopped doing it as much because I didn't wanna burn bridges, you know what I'm saying? And so I say this to say, it's just me fucking joking.

I see some shit online, the behind the back hugs. I'm like, yo, that shit is crazy, nigga. You all see me doing that. And so, funny enough, and again, acknowledging, I did wanna acknowledge he has this program called Reform that does amazing things, right? So when I said that line, I have never met this nigga, damn my life.

One week after that song come out, I meet this nigga, and he's hella cool. What'd you mean by that? At a Commander's game. Did he hug you? Huh? He hugged you? I didn't say behind, I just said, Did he hug you? Huh? He hugged you?

I didn't say behind, I just said did he hug you? Man look, I say what I say, I adapt him up, he's actually hella fucking cool. And like I said, the work he does with ReForm is amazing. And so I think as an artist, I can acknowledge that he does amazing. His program, charity, ReForm, and I'm sure he does a bunch his program, charity, reform, and I'm sure he does a bunch of other amazing shit for community is great, but then also, yo, nigga, that shit is funny, you know what I'm saying?

Do you talk about the line? Do you talk about the line? Like, I just. No, fuck no. And he's put a lot of money in black people's pockets. Like, I just had an interesting conversation with Lil Baby recently, and he was talking about that. And I think that sometimes people just really go

where the information is. Yeah, no, exactly. And he's one who shit is saying from, even like I only met this dude one time and he was like, again, I felt kind of bad after meeting because you see shit online and he's just like, I'm making fun of it. But then when you actually meet the person,

they become a real person. And so, which is also what fans think of fucking artists. So, you know what I'm saying? It's like a duality of it. So, not I met him and he became a real person, but like when I met him, I'm like, oh wow, you're like, you're really, you're the complete opposite of what I thought you were like.

You know the cool. That's why everybody's at your parties because you're super cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, um. So you would go to one of those parties. Nah, I can't now. I still, I can't.

I still can't. What if he invites Naomi but not you?. Nah, I can't now. I still can't. You got stans. What if he invites Naomi but not you? Then she, I don't know. I'm not gonna answer that. I don't know. If I commit any crimes, I'm committing it with this nigga. He ain't gonna talk about it anymore. He might rap about it, but he ain't gonna talk about it at all.

Yeah, that's funny. That's worse now, rapping about it and fucking talking about it. Did you ever connect with Doc, Umar? No, I didn't, no. Okay. Yeah, no. Why would he have to?

He was dating a white woman? No, never in life. No, all right. Never in fucking life. But not to say there's anything wrong with Bunny Hoppin' and shit. I'm just saying I wouldn't do that, you know, whatever. But what niggas do with, you know,

their time is what they do. Now, Umar, I remember Um when I made some comments up here about Naomi He did. Yeah Am I trippin I don't know but oh I was getting his number because he wanted to play for her national team or something Like that or it was something like that If he he's just misinformed he just doesn't have all the information. Let's not pull it up.

Let's not pull it up. I know this is crazy. What the fuck? This is the same thing. Y'all ain't get these niggas new laptops. I'm sorry. There's a lot of great history that has happened on that thing. Yeah I know. I had to take fucking HSAs on this shit and y'all still using this shit, man.

Y'all should be a fucking shame to y'allself, man. I ain't know y'all, I got Apple right here. Yeah, I know, Jeff shit, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all shit is straight. Gotta keep it classic like a MPC. No. Now you in the studio and you get the more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get the little red dot.

Okay. But so I had this idea, so I wasn't aware of that, but he probably just was misinformed but I had this idea of having him in a music video and um, yeah that I had this idea of me having him in a music video. I like that. Yeah, yeah, so that's it. But I, man look, you know, I gotta see what he said but you know, yeah, but I agree with

a lot of shit, you know, that Uwana says, like 50%. Oh yeah, he was talking about her representing Japan in the Olympics. You say you didn't wanna hear it. Oh my God. You say you didn't wanna hear it. No, the producer just texted to me.

Aw, these niggas are messy. They're just like, shit, get on it, get on it. I closed it. Y'all see how play I am, right? I not only took the laptop, I switched on the laptop and closed it. on the last time this phone was on. That would be working, bro. Texting it.

Who is Shay Afini? Put me on to what that means. Oh, that's Shia Afini. That's my daughter's name. Oh, okay, okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Producers didn't send him that one. Yeah. That's a dope ass name.

The producer was probably a white man, huh? No, I'm not white. Okay. That'd be a damn shame. You think Dr. Gwad would come up here so much if he had white producers? I got white camera man. He's not white.

No, I'm joking, I'm sorry. He is white. No, he's not. Italian. Italian is white. That's a different kind, it's like off white. My nigga. And he's Puerto Rican.

Yeah, yeah. Not that it matters, okay? Not that it fucking matters. We all love each other. You know what fucking matters. We all love each other. You know what I'm saying? We love each other. We all, I got love. Hey look man, I got a lot of white corday fans

and I love all of them. You know what I'm saying? I got a lot of love for everybody on earth. You know? Okay. I do have one last question. Oh God. No, no, come on.

Yo, can I just play my song? No, your album is fantastic. This is just a personal thing. Let's leave on that. No, I, no. Can I just play my song? No, because your album is fantastic. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. This is just a personal thing. Let's leave on that. No, I'm sorry. I want you to go ahead. As a man, what did you do to help your lady get through her postpartum? Hmm. Oh, my God. It's just for the men, though.

You don't got to get personal with her. Just for the men. What do men, what should men do? I got four daughters, but what should men do in that situation? Especially young men that are a quarter life crisis. Yeah, yeah. I would say, I don't know. I don't wanna act like I'm the perfect person and be given advice.

I'm the perfect example of what to do. Is just be as present as you can and be as understanding as you can and be a man, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, be as understanding and be as present as you possibly can. Well, let's listen to something off the album. What you want to hear off the album?

Man, I don't know, man. Let's do Saturday Mornings. I'm fucking with you. We Fat Chain Broadway. Let's do that. Oh my god This is crazy. Look the rock wave love rock. Yeah, now I thought I misunderstood that line. I think what is that a misunderstanding? I'm dealing with a lot of problems. I don't know if y'all can relate feeling like raw wave I got a lot of my plate

Yo, when the black skulley going, this man is crazy, this man. Yo, what color Air Forces did this man go? I mean, that goes back to my freedom as an art, like me expressing my sense of humor and my freedom as a, like this is hip hop. It's a double entendre. Yeah, it is.

So I say this to say say that goes back to the point I made earlier, like me just being as free as I possibly can versus me like worrying about what people think. But I mean, bro makes dope music, obvious fucking way. You know what I'm saying? Great artist, so yeah. Yeah, you were saying like he just always stressed out about some shit.

I think the bar is like my bad, Jay. I don't want to do this to you, Jay. It's like, yeah, it's like, it's there. It's there. Very, it's there for sure. Can I leave now, please? yeah, it's like it's it's there is there very is there What is that? Can I leave now, please? Yes, there is all jokes aside Corde is dope I've always thought it was dope no one of them ones I think that when I we was having this conversation recently. Thank you. Nala was playing

She was gonna pass off to play some off. He was was supposed to come last, I think it was like a month before he was supposed to come, and we talked about it before he got here, but he canceled on us. Cause I was just talking about like the new big three, I don't wanna say big three, but like this new era of artists, cause you know, Kendrick and Cole and Drake, that's the last generation. For this generation, I feel like you gotta put your name

in there, personally. Nah, yeah, it's there, for sure. I appreciate that. Absolutely. That doesn't warrant all the shit you've done before, but now I'm fucking with you. Nah, thank you, nah, thank you, bro. And I'm glad, yo, this is great.

I've had, honestly, despite the jokes, I had a good time on here, so thank you for having me, man. That's a lot of you. I'm not coming back. Nah, nah, I'm gonna come back, man. I'm always here. You talk about Rod Wave's plate, you talk about gay ears, he's like, nah, I'm good.

Oh my God. The crossroads, out now. Yeah, I know, right? Let's get into the joint right now. It's the, talk about gay ears, he's like, nah, I'm good. Oh my God. The crossroads, out now. Yeah, I know, right? Let's get into the joint right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Skordaya. Good morning, y'all. Wake that ass up early in the morning.

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