The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: DaBaby On Bouncing Back, Righteous Actions, Loyalty, Stunna4Vegas Split, New Mixtape + More

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With DaBaby To Discuss Bouncing Back, Righteous Actions, Loyalty, Stunna4Vegas Split, And New Mixtape. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So, Lauren LaRose is filling in, and we got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Ladies and gentlemen, DaBaby's back. Welcome. It's a pleasure to be here, man. Pleasure to be here. How you feeling, my brother? I'm feeling great, you know what I mean? Wouldn't rather be nowhere else right now. I'm happy to have you here, man. For sure.

You got the new mixtape. How the fuck is this a mixtape right now? How the fuck is this a mixtape? I'm still trying to figure this shit out. That's an album, man. It should have been an album. i'm still trying to figure this out that's an album man it should have been an album trying to figure this out right now why not an album um you know we wanted to we wanted to warm the pot back up you know and and really more than anything it's more of like a reintroduction you know what i'm saying to all the listeners to the fans to the supporters to the newcomers you know i mean it's just a reintroduction i feel like you know i've been him so long, it's my first time putting my heart in a project in like four years, so, you know, I wanted the, no features, I ain't wanted the,

it ain't got nothing to do with no roll out, no none of that, you know what I'm saying, I wanted to just give him my authentic self, be completely transparent, you know what I mean, and reintroduce the listeners to me as a person, you know what I mean, beyond the artist, and you know, move forward from there. And then we come with the album right after though Don't get it. Yeah, don't get it

I see you You take the music as like I would say how the essence used to be right? Right reason I say that is you do the mixtapes you do the freestyles. Yeah, you pop up in the clubs Yeah, even when there's a paid appearance and not paid in parents You still get a whole lot of money to perform but you still go to the small venues Why is all of that so important because we don't see that with a lot of artists the most important thing about all that shit is being able to connect directly with the fan base you know i'm saying everything else is it's clouded you know when you talk playlist and when you talk this and that all that shit got

politics and and factors that come into play that you know the the control you know how how visible your music is or what have you you know when it come to a freestyle I can give you current energy I can touch on on current topics and everything I can give it boom straight to you I don't gotta wait I don't gotta upload it wait for the DSPs to get time to service it and all that all that extra shit shout out to them when they do do it you get what I'm saying but sometimes you know when it come to this art with music you want to just get it straight to the consumer you know I mean I mean? You need to know how I'm feeling today. For the consumer, what's the difference between a mixtape and an album nowadays?

They don't fucking know. You know what I'm saying? It's just all about how you hype it up ahead of time. You know what I mean? And of course, an album is presumed to be something that's just a large thing in a moment that's coming. But I'm more of a spontaneous person you get what i'm saying so i like the boom just pop out with it and then yeah let the music speak for itself and let it catch up with me kind of like how i popped out

with this one like you know i'm seeing i'm like what a weekend come midnight it'll be a week that it done been out but you know i'm i'm slowly but surely seeing people you know what i mean understand like the type of body of work that I just put out, and that's what it's all about. To me, like, that mean more than, you know, it being on this playlist for a day or for a week, you know what I'm saying, because somebody done broke bread or, you know, this or that, you know what I'm saying?

So I like the organic, and I really want it, the organic, I want an organic climb back, you know what I'm saying, to the top. That's what I want, because then it's not, you know, I understand it for exactly what it is. But you keep talking about being canceled. You keep talking about being at the I'm saying, to the top. That's what I want because then it's not, you know, I understand it for exactly what it is. But you keep talking about being canceled. You keep talking about being at the bottom, climbing back to the top.

I ain't talking about it no more. You know what I'm saying? But maybe I wasn't paying attention. I ain't see it that way. Man, that's, I don't see it that way. I appreciate that from you, my G, because I know you don't fuck around. Yeah, you saw it.

I saw it. Yeah, what you see now? What did you see? I mean, I feel like, I don't believe in cancel culture completely, but I did feel like there was a time where you were like, it was like quiet a bit and we weren't seeing you out as much because I forgot at one time you had the festival run.

It was all the baby. Like if it was a festival, it had to be you. Mixtapes dropping, music, music, music, songs. And then it just got really quiet after the whole situation. And now I feel like i see you slowly like you're dropping them your uh your freestyles online you're dropping the content i watch you do that a lot and now we're here with the tape and you're running back around so i think it's coming back around why are we not gonna like shake something didn't happen yeah no it happened

but even even with that happen later but i thought that that was going to be the pop back out and it did amazing but even then i think because people attach to you as a person because you're you know you're very animated people let me hear you talk we didn't get that during that you kind of did a little bit but now your your interviews you're talking to people for sure that's how i perceived it you can let me know if i was if that's not with a lot of that you correct except for like with the freestyles i never stopped that like that was really the only thing i could do off the rip that was my way to boom keep doing what I'm doing.

But when it come to, like, festivals and shit like that, that shit is controlled. You know what I mean? Like, somebody can, somebody press the button. You know what I'm saying? Somebody press the button. You get what I'm saying? And I got to navigate my way through that. However, I navigate my way through that.

That ain't something I can just, you know. But in terms of everything else, right, when it come to, like, press or, like, how I go about marketing music or whatever, like, I really got in the space to where I was falling out of love with the art, you know what I'm saying, of creating music and putting music out because of the politics and everything else that came with it. It made me, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, shit, this ain't something I even enjoy doing at this point. You get what I'm saying?

I go from being an artist to a politician over fucking night. You know what I mean? I ain't no damn politician. That ain't never even over fucking night. You know what I mean? I ain't no damn politician. Like, that ain't what, I've never even, that ain't never even been my brand. You get what I'm saying? Even my brand. I've always been, like, I've always been that nigga that's gone, I can't believe that nigga just said that. You get what I'm saying?

Like, I'm going to say something that a lot of people would think, you know what I mean, in the music. But I'm going to say it before you even realize how crazy I'm talking. You already enjoying the vibe of the music or whatever. You know what I mean? And in terms of Shake Something, you is correct because my whole plan when I dropped that was to follow up immediately. We was supposed to boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

You know what I mean? I've never been to drop a song and sit back and hold my nuts and goddamn, you know what I'm saying? And goddamn, yeah, look at that song I just dropped. So yeah, you know, this is what it is. Or I would have came in and dropped Suge and sat the fuck back for two years like a lot of these niggas do but I dropped my first three projects you know I'm saying as a mainstream artist six months apart number one number one

number one album number one album top streaming artists in the world top streaming rapper in the world 2020 you know I'm saying so my my fans have always been conditioned to receive my music in high volume you know I'm saying like I always boom boom boom boom boom i don't really sit on nothing so definitely you know and like i say like a big thing with this project how the fuck is this a mixtape you know what i'm saying and just with me and how i'm living right now the space i'm in i is i'm in a i'm in a era of accountability like when it comes to myself so you know i i just said this shit yesterday we're talking to somebody like i appreciate the fans for holding me accountable and not letting me, you know, settle and put out bullshit and get away with it.

They know what I, you know, they know what I got to offer. You know what I'm saying? No disrespect, but I always felt like, F those people, right? Nah, facts. Because there's your core fans and people that love you, right? And during that time when it felt like you was going through it, I felt like your core still supported you. They wanted to show you even more that they supported you. And I dropped the fucking ball. You know what I mean?

Even when I would see you outside and people coming up to you. It's a difference. The crossover shit, yeah, of course, they're going to be fickle. But your fans stayed in that trench with you regardless. And I've seen that. And the reason I've seen that is we've seen this with a lot of artists, right? When they don't fuck with their core and they feel like they're bigger than their core, they leave their core, then you smack back to reality. I've never seen that is we seen this with a lot of artists right when they don't fuck with their core right and they feel like they're bigger than their core they leave their core

then you smack back to reality i've never seen that with you which i always respected you know i mean no for sure for sure no that's i agree 100 you know i'm saying i agree 100 and you know and that's that's part of the whole myself accountable for you know what i'm saying like the way that i allow shit to take place over the past four years i could have put out a body of work like how the fuck is this a mixtape immediately after the controversy you get what I'm saying and boom trumped all that shit like that's that's like the shit that I done did while being a mainstream artist like while I was the the most you know what I mean talked about artists in the game the shit that I was doing at the same time like I go you know I mean like I I don't even be trying to bring this shit up like i'll

whoop a nigga ass on camera then go get on the cover of billboard magazine the next day you know what i'm saying like all type of shit like this i'm telling you like i promise you like this shit is public record like i can't wait to this documentary come out so it's like for me to even you know for me to even allow myself to get to get tricked into being in a space where i feel like you know, I'm at the mercy of some motherfuckers who ain't, who don't understand me

as an artist anyway because anybody who is a fan of me, they already know. It ain't nothing I can say that'll throw them off to the point

to where they're, oh wait, you're a bad person. I'm turning my back and ain't no way. I didn't say it worse. You get what I'm saying? How bad did it get?

Because on the album you talk about, of course, you always talk about the money. You were getting 500 a show and then it dropped so what I'm saying? How bad did it get? Because on the album you talk about, of course, you always talk about the money. You were getting 500 a show and then it dropped so much. not that. How bad did it get

to the point where that you think about, you know what, I got to give up music? I was finna get my jet. I was finna get all type of shit. I already had it,

you know, figured out. Yeah, I done talked about this plenty of times, but if you- But after fall, you talking about?

I'm talking about the paper. I'm talking about the hair. Yeah, I ain't talking about the, you know, I mean, me, the music ain't never went nowhere like I you know I'm I'm in the demonstrating on the regular you know I'm saying anytime like anytime I feel like you know motherfuckers got me fucked up when

they when they get the the the when they get the love and the attention from the media when they see that shit shift and they get that shit confused with you know who I am as an artist and what I got to offer as an artist that's when I get in that mode like these niggas got me fucked up i'm doing this song and this one i'm gonna pick the hottest songs out and i'm gonna burn them bitches down you get what i'm saying and then i just leave everybody and oh you see it you see it the shit do 20 million views on damn instagram i wouldn't even put the shit out on youtube none of that or i'll go do it on somebody platform or whatever and i would just leave it at that but like i say that that all go back to me just holding myself accountable

because I could apply that same amount of pressure to my own individual work, and that's why I come with this mixtape instead of a three-pack or a single. I'm like, fuck that. I want to put a whole tape out. And it went from, I mean, originally, what we was going to do, bro. We was going to do, what, like five, six songs overnight, you know what I'm saying? Within like a week. Like, man, hell no, I got ah overnight you know what i'm saying within like a week like man hell no i got 14 you know what i'm saying and shots to my team because they ain't

hey they finally like yo nigga do you you know i mean they like do you so i'm like no i got 14 of them and all this is shit that i just recorded so it's current energy it's all the way there and that's the way i prefer to put the music out you know what i'm saying you was telling us how bad it got though you said yeah it got bad but it ain't nothing I'm dwelling on you know and I don't really want to speak on that cause I'm ready for him to start giving me

giving me the five and the four I feel like you've been past that dude I didn't even realize it was four years that feel like longer than that long ass time

you get what I'm saying long ass time I done had two kids I done had two more kids like my baby's talking running around you know they don't need one of my babies

don't even know I'm a rapper like what am I my four year old My baby's talking, running around and shit. You know, they don't need, one of my babies don't even know I'm a rapper. Like, what did my baby do? What did she do? She saw me on TV, man. It fucked her up. She said, Daddy, Daddy, you got a song. I said, yeah, baby.

I had to tell her, Mama, like, you ain't told my baby or daddy a fucking superstar with the head you got going on. You know what I mean? But, nah, it's all good, man. Like, you know, more than anything, man, I'm grateful to be here. And then, at the same time, I'm going through so much real shit personally that, like, I needed that. You know what I mean? Because, like, me, like, you know, I'm one way. I'm Mr. Tunnel Vision. Like, when I got my mind set on something, like, it ain't too much at all.

It was nothing that was going to stop me from, you know what I'm saying, from getting what my heart desired. You know what i'm saying from getting what my heart desired you know what i mean but if that ain't healthy for me for my mental for my for my spiritual if that ain't healthy for me you know i'm going to run into a brick wall you know it's a downward spiral and and you know once you once you come up off of that you know that's a that's a beautiful space to be in you know i mean and that's where i'm at right now you feel like everything hit you at once like you, you know, all that situation happened. But then, like you said, real life issues, like grief from your brother. That happened first.

So what a lot of motherfuckers ain't understanding, like, you know, I was really getting kicked while I was down. You know what I mean? Like, niggas ain't even knowing just because of, like, how, you know, how I carry it. Like, I'm not, I wasn't looking for sympathy. I wasn't looking for none of that. You know what I'm saying? Like, so, yeah, I was hustling to goddamn divert my attention from the real life shit I was going through.

You know what I mean? But every year of me being, especially the first two years, my most successful, you know what I'm saying, time period in the game, like, I took the biggest losses of my life. You know what I'm saying? I lost my father in 2019, right after I dropped. You know what I'm saying? My debut project. Right after.

You know what I mean? Month after. And then my brother, 2020, while i'm the top streaming rapper in the world you know what i mean and then the next year boom the the whole big the whole big cancel culture shit the very next year so it's boom boom boom you know what i mean so i kind of been i kind of been dealing with the bullshit longer than i've been you know what i'm saying out here really doing my thing so that's why i said you know I really got in a space to where, like, I kind of was, you know, just losing my love for the art, you know what I mean, and just the sport of, you know,

putting out music and marketing the music and just all that, you know what I'm saying, all the shit that I do in a way that no other artist does it, you know what I'm saying? It was that type of shit. You know, I allowed this boy shit to steal my joy, you know what I'm saying, for what I do. And, you know, that's detrimental to my art, you know what I'm saying.

But the space that I'm in right now, you know, you can kind of see it. It's kind of bleeding through. If you can't, you will soon. You know, they say staying busy is a response to trauma, right? Absolutely. That's exactly what it was. When you lost your pops and your brothers, you was super busy doing everything. Man, I flew out.

So when things got a little bit quiet and you had to sit still. Exactly. That's when I heard. Man, I flew out. So when things got a little bit quiet and you had to sit still. Exactly. That's when I heard. Man, look. Everything. And this is where it got quiet and I had to sit still. It was really COVID. That was my second show back.

COVID would seem like so long ago. That really was a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. So that was really like my second show back. So I had stayed. I was able to stay busy enough like when it came to my pops. And not only that, like, you know, it was a different situation than my brother you get what

I'm saying but I immediately like I dropped my my debut the second project my second album really baby on baby was a mixtape but I dropped my debut album uh Kirk you know I mean that went number one that was an honor of my father that was my way of carrying the last name you know I did that you know I did that when it came to my pops. We even had a conversation before he passed where he, you know what I'm saying, like, you taught me something. You get what I mean? Like, you know, you stuck to what you wanted to do.

You did it your way. You taught me something. Now what's next? So we, you know, that situation was a little bit different, you know, and I was able to stay busy enough to, you know, navigate through that or whatever. But, you know, when you talk about losing somebody to suicide, like, that's a different thing. You know what I mean? Who was in your corner? your corner kids behind who was in your corner during that time cuz you

know you you're always in somebody's corner you always reach out to your people who was like you know what put their arm around you to make sure that you're okay if anybody it like emotionally like spiritually that way when it come to what my brother just to make sure that you okay see nobody nobody yeah I mean nobody hell no nobody he's like who does the go-to guy go to right you know what i'm saying i'm i'm the i'm i'm the one that's in this in the corners you get what i'm saying like it ain't no yeah nobody you know what i'm saying and it ain't even expected you know what i mean which ain't that ain't healthy at all but it's

not expected of me like i'm kind of like a lot of people probably attempted to be, you know what I'm saying? But I don't, you know, that's just how I'm wired. That's how a lot of, you know, black men wired. Like, we don't, you know what I mean? Like, we taught to suck that shit up and keep it moving. You get what I'm saying? Like, hey, bro, ain't no, you know, you got to deal with the shit, you know what I'm saying, that's put in front of you, you know what I mean?

So that's something that I really stand on, and I'm really the one one I'm really the shoulder to lean on more than the person looking to lean on the shoulder you know I'm saying like I won't even allow it you know what I'm saying I don't it got to be it got to be equal with me you know what I mean I ain't even started it yet I plan on starting it immediately you know what I mean I plan to start I want to have a conversation with you you know I'm saying off the air you know I mean we get done and and just so you can you know I mean give me some some insight on that and you know lead me'm saying, off the air, you know what I mean, when we get done, and just so you can, you know what I mean, give me some insight on that and, you know, lead me in the right direction. I got an idea of how I want to do it, but I

want to get you, you know what I mean? I saw you said you wanted it to be, like, when you do do it, you want it to be publicly shared? Yeah, I really want to, yeah, because I want to, I want to, I want to inspire others to, you know what I'm saying, do that shit. I want to, I want to make that shit okay and acceptable, because I already know what time it is like it ain't a

nigga it ain't too many niggas more stubborn than me like I didn't bend motherfuckers Ben told me do it Ben told me do it Ben told me do it I rock with people I you know I'm a big fan of this man and the work he do in that space you get what I'm saying so I already know what's going on I'm aware of it I pay attention I ain't no stupid nigga at all but at the same time like it probably ain't a nigga it's stubborn but at the same time like it probably ain't a nigga it's stubborn it's me like when it come to like not accepting sympathy and shit like it's not like I don't I don't even I don't play like that you know I'm saying like my mama is

cut like that like she don't you know when we got ass whoopings as a kid it don't stop until you till you're not crying she don't it's It's shut. No, you can't cry. If you crying, she going to keep whooping. You got to shut up. You get what I'm saying? And that's her conditioning. You know what I'm saying? These children for this world that they about to go off into.

You know what I mean? Because there ain't no love out here. You know what I mean? But even that, like that shit ain't okay. That shit that we, the motherfuckers need to goddamn, you know, we got to learn a different way. And that's why I want to, you know what I'm saying, go through my journey of starting therapy. I want to do it, you know what I'm saying,

publicly I want to do it in a way, the way I really want to do it, I kind of want to spill the beans, you know what I'm saying, but I don't know if you should do that yet. Maybe not to start. Yeah, you got a lot of layers. And not as I go, you know what I'm saying, but I definitely want like the

progress to be, you know what I'm saying, I I definitely want the progress to be... You know what I'm saying? I got a different approach when it comes to that. Document the journey. Definitely. I did that once. I did that on VH1. I did a live therapy.

Man, I regret doing that. Yeah, no, no. I ain't going to do it. No, it's got to be controlled. I got to be able to take it. I've seen some shit. I did it with Dr. Jess. I watched that.

I did a live therapy session with Dr. Jess on VH1 one time. I'm like, man, I wish I never did it. Yeah, I ain't going to let nobody pick me apart like that in front of me. I'm gonna be on that motherfucker like I'm in an interrogation room. I was gonna say, what do you want to get out of it? What do you want to get out of therapy? Because most people, I know when they go, it almost feels like somebody's in your life. You know what I'm saying?

And that was always my thing with it. I'm like, man, I ain't about to pay nobody to tell them my business. Like, what the fuck I look like? But it ain't even that. And really what got me on it, right? What got like look i'm about to start therapy i want to do it is me working on my documentary you get what i'm saying so i did so much digging you know what i'm saying into my past and i'm calling my mama i'm having conversations with her i'm asking her questions you know i'm saying i'm calling this uncle this uncle you know and as they telling

me these stories and they confirming certain stuff that is jogging my memory, like I'm, I'm remembering more and more and then I'm, Oh, what about this? What about, and yeah, boom, boom. I'm getting answers. And I'm like, damn, hold on. Like, Hey, we, I'm, I'm fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm really, you know, it's, it's different.

And you know, like with this, with this smile and even how I came in there, everywhere I go, they do this, do this smile and show your teeth and shit like you know it's far more to me than what meets the eye you know I'm saying it's layers to a nigga like me like it's different and I know it ain't no different than than just about any other individual you know what I'm saying like we you know we we Kings we know how to goddamn carry it and and carry on you know what I mean but at the same time you know these Kings need somebody to go to you know what I mean? But at the same time, you know, these kings need somebody to go to,

you know what I mean? For sure. You big up your mom a lot. I can't remember the name of the record. Every record, damn near. I can't stop talking about that woman.

I love her. You say blame her for everything. She's the reason you are. I'm so confident in myself, you know what I'm saying? Like, absolutely, thousand percent.

Like, she ain't never used to introduce us to nobody, none of that shit without putting the word handsome in front of it. Her email to this day is probably still, uh,

my three sons, Linda, you get what I'm saying? Like she ain't, you know, we was a pride and joy, especially a baby, especially a baby.

The one that looked just like her, you know what I'm saying? Like for sure. So definitely like she, the reason why I, you know, why I don't let nobody. And also the reason why I'm,

I stand firm on my principles. Why I don't really accept sympathy for nobody is, you know, why I got them let nobody. And also the reason why I'm, I stand firm on my principles, why I don't really accept sympathy for nobody is, you know, why I got them. Yeah, she the reason. I was raised by a strong black woman, a beautiful one at that. That's why I'm so handsome too. The documentary gave you more appreciation for her?

Absolutely. A thousand percent. I ain't never, you know, I ain't. The stuff you didn't know. Yeah, I wasn't never lacking appreciation with my mom, but it made me, it made me apologize a few times because when I'm thinking like, my, you remember when me and,'t never lacking appreciation with my mom but it made me it made me apologize a few times because when I'm thinking

like my you remember when me and and Reed that's my brother you remember when me and Reed called your job and got the voicemail

we calling this in the 90s this early 90s so this when you could pick up the house phone in this room you could pick it up

in the other room we used to rush to try to call my mom at work you know what I'm saying we'd get home from school I had a house key at like six years old

by the way I'd get off the bus and go let myself in in preschool you know what i mean and then that's when you know elementary school be the first ones to get out or whatever so i was coming in and let myself in the house as a as a peewee you know what i mean like that's crazy to think about we used to do that i swear to god you know so it's different these kids don't even know. That's all your mom used to say. I swear to God, you know, so it's different. These kids don't even know. These niggas got iPhones, iPads,

TikTok, we ain't had none of that. Y'all ain't never wrote a little love letter. Y'all little niggas, boy. How about the door wasn't even locked at my grandma's house?

It wasn't even locked. Yeah, so you know, they, it wasn't even locked. You was in there with a knife, wasn't you? Back in the day, nigga used to have that knife.

I didn't even think that was gonna happen. He was in the house cooling. Nah, for sure, man, but nah, definitely, like I had, back to that that's that's a funny story i'm gonna share this with y'all so we had we went to call my mom we used to rush to call her from different phones or whatever badass little niggas man that shit crazy they ain't answer this is at her job got the voicemail we on the not not realizing that this is a voicemail and just thinking that we on the phone

with each other, acting like our goddamn uncles and other family members and shit, and we cussing each other out on the phone. Oh, boy. I'm like four. My brother like five or six. He's like a year and a half older. So I'm four.

He like five. And they know us. She bring us, like I say, we was up proud and dressed. So they all know us. We call every day. We had to be annoying as hell. We call every day. How can I speak to Linda, please?

They, hey, Jonathan. Hey, you know what I mean? Like, so they hear these boys that they just think so cute and whatever. And they hear us, whoever the manager, whoever came to play that voicemail in the morning. You get what I'm saying? Fuck you, bitch, motherfucker. We don't even know how to cuss yet and shit. So, you know, it'd be bad when a little nigga don't know how to cuss yet.

It'd be bad. And, you know, my uncles and shit, man, look, this cloth I'm cut from different. So the type shit we was saying, I know we just embarrassed the hell out of her, man, and I'm sorry again. When you see this, I apologize, you know, and if my kids ever, you know, but we, yeah, she didn't even say nothing. She just pulled up to the crib.

She said, come here. Y'all come here real quick. We thinking, God damn, she got something for us. I think she closed the door behind us and goddamn. Press play. Oh, Lord. We got the. Whooped our ass.

Then we got the phone cord that day. We got the phone cord. God. Did she lose her job? No, no, no, no, no. They love. No, no, no. They love my mom.

Now, how are you with your kids? They knew she had some badass kids. Now, how are you with your kids? Because, I mean, you got to have a bad kid. They got to be one that's bad. You be like, nah, I got... You just like me. I'm a princess maker, man.

So, you know, my twin, she just like me, but she ain't. She not bad. Nah, hell nah. Ain't none of my kids really bad. Really, my... There you go. My second born, she... But not with me.

You know what I'm saying? She handle her mama, but not with me. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. But I don't got no kid. I don't got no kid as bad as we was. Hell no. Hell no.

It's always the second child that make you feel like you don't know what you're doing as a parent. Right. For sure. Now, now, now my nephew. That's why I see on the video, nephew acting up all the time. I love watching him in your videos. He is such a little man.

Oh, man. That's my nigga, man. He turns seven. He turns seven tomorrow, by the way. You know what I'm saying? But that boy's six. You know what I mean? Going on.

He on his way. He on his way. I can make him. He already. He him. He don't remind me of me, man. He different. I wouldn't cut like him at his age, man.

When I tell you that boy is different, I wish I could have brought him with me. That boy different. You know what I'm saying? He is different. You know? So he got the world in front of him, man man it's for the taking when it come to him I'm super excited about seeing him growing and the way he gonna grow into and definitely I try to do everything I can to lead him in the right direction but I know the cloth he

cut from I already know what's going on so it's like I understand it you know what I mean I understand it and with me coming from that cloth and seeing the other side of shit and seeing you you know, what is possible. Like and he look up to me like a motherfucker. So, you know, I make it a point to make sure that I'm putting the right things on his mind and I'm sprinkling the game on him and the lessons I learned. So he don't make none of the mistakes that I made. You know what I'm saying? I try to make his, you know, as little of the mistakes I made as possible because he gonna have to make some. You know what I mean? But I think he ready for them. Now, how difficult

was it to go from the streets to the industry? And the reason I say that is, you know, when you're in the streets and you get in a fight, you get in a fight, you go home, they go home. But now, when you're in the industry, you get in a fight, they suing you. And they suing the tail off you, right? I got my licks in before I started getting sued, but I got my licks in,

you know what I'm saying? But now, yeah, I don't... Does it make me what, like scared to put my hands up? Run from everything. Absolutely. I'd I got my licks in. You know what I'm saying? But now, yeah, I don't, does it make me what, like scared to put my hands up? Run from everything. Absolutely. I, boy, I be a bitch ass nigga any day of the night.

I ain't got time for that shit. I done spent about four million on lawsuits, man. Like four or five million on lawsuits. Damn. Got facts.

What, settling out or just fighting them? Nah, fighting them. A lot of that shit be bullshit. And that's one thing about me. Like, contrary to popular belief, like, I don't put my hands on nobody that don't that don't deserve it you know what i'm saying when i say deserve it i ain't saying like okay i feel like you deserve an ass whooping like nah like so that's why i don't get charged criminally with nothing like

it don't you feel me like i don't you know what i mean like i'm going i'm like you have to make me do that you know what i'm saying like i just'm going, like, you have to make me do that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just defend myself. That's all. I just defend myself. You feel me? We've seen some videos that look like you just swinging on. That was a different type of thing, man. That was, you know, I really, that's something I, and that shit, that's what rubbed me. That's what rubbed me.

No, I don't regret it. But that's what rubbed me wrong about that situation is because I can't even give context, you know what I'm saying, as to why that shit took place like that without opening up a can even give context you know what I'm saying as to why that shit took place like that without opening up a can of worms you see what I'm saying and and I expect for bruh to be you know I'm saying I expect for him to be a stand-up individual enough to you know you feel me like that's a thousand percent on him bruh know that shit too but don't come tell me that privately you get what I'm saying like you know clear that shit up for a nigga that's out here you know I'm saying that's sacrificing and putting any amount of energy

money whatever into you know i'm saying it's your duty to clear that shit up but it is what it is at the end of the day so y'all good now no it's all good yeah it's straight one of my favorite songs on the album is uh ain't that a bitch damn ain't that a bitch because i can relate but you one thing you said you are willing to reconcile with some of these people if they admit they was wrong you better that's me but but i ain't though that's one thing about me too like i ain't no rest i'm only talking about probably like one motherfucker when it comes to that but i ain't no nigga you can goddamn nah because it ain't i keep it i keep it too real for that you know i'm saying like niggas know niggas know too and anybody out in they know niggas know niggas know a thousand percent like

it ain't no you know the proof is in the pudding when it comes to me. I can hear the pain in that song, though, because it's like, you do things for people. You help people. Absolutely. My brother's going to never gossip about how you help them. Hell no. They ain't going to say a word. You know what I mean?

But the thing about this shit, like, with me, like, it's really, a lot of this shit public record at this point. You get what I'm saying? Like, it ain't even, I don't even got to talk about what I done did for a nigga. Like, I don't got to do that. You know what I mean? So, when it come down to that, it just be like, damn, ain't that a bitch? You know what I'm saying?

Like, I just leave it right at that. That's why I came with that song. I feel like that's something everybody got a situation or a particular relationship or something, you know what I mean, along the way in their journey that they can immediately relate to that record. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. You also talk about selling your soul or people trying to get you to sell your soul.

I talk about not. Yeah, people trying to get you to talk about not no yeah people trying to get you to sell your soul in certain situations and you're not doing it so when you talk about that like how does that even work like people come to you with it's different like offers opportunities are they like you're talking about some illuminati shit no i'm not talking about that i'm talking about the fact that i mean it's simple like selling your, it's simple. Selling your soul is like if somebody tells you to do something that doesn't align

with your morals and principles. You get what I'm saying? To get to a certain level or to stay here. It's like if they tell you, look, in order to get them to come be on Breakfast Club, you got to come in here

with your ass out. You got to come in here and twerk to the music goddamn at the beginning. And if that's not something that aligns with you, with your morals, with your principles,

with the way you operate, and you say, hell yeah, I'm a dude, man. It's brave. I can't, hell nah, I can't miss this opportunity. You sold your motherfucking soul. That's real. It's that simple. You get what I'm saying?

And that ain't really something my dude, the world has seen it. With me, like, you know, I could have did one or two things and been, boy, I'd have been about at about the 500 million mark by now. Facts. Facts. Facts.

It was 400,000 a day for me for the rest of that year. 2020, like 400,000. We ain't talking about after parties. We ain't talking about any other business relationships that got fucked up through it. You know what I'm saying? Like we ain't talking about none of the other shit. If I'm just talking about what was already on the calendar, you get what I'm saying? It was, yeah, it was sweet.

I was up out of here. I was going to have that Tyler Perry motherfucker that runway on the calendar. You get what I'm saying? It was, yeah, it was sweet. I was up out of here. I was going to have that Tyler Perry motherfucker, that runway in the backyard. Right. Facts. I wonder what you ever sat back and thought, what was the divine detour? Because, you know, I always say things don't happen to you,

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Not only how far I didn't goddamn came and appreciate, you know what I'm saying, what I got going on so much more, but I also needed to smoke the clear, and I needed to see things clearly. I needed to see what was around me, who was around me, you know what I'm saying, and what purposes I'm aiding, who I'm aiding in doing the wrong thing. You get what i'm saying what purposes i'm i'm i'm aiding who i'm aiding and doing the wrong thing you get what i'm saying and not only that like just get and not and and i needed to fucking

heal and grieve you know what i'm saying for once from multiple things you know what i mean like i needed i probably needed to talk to somebody at therapy before i ever even touched the motherfucking microphone you get what i'm saying but just you know the shit i done been through since then you know and and like I say, I'm in a season of accountability. Like, I done got away with a lot of shit.

You know what I'm saying? Like, since, even since y'all done known me, I done got away with a lot of shit. So, you know, that ain't no way. And if you get away

with enough, you'll get to thinking or you'll get in a space to where you think that shit is really okay. So, like I say, like, you know, it was a lot of changes that need to be made

and I needed to get my personal life in order. You know what I'm saying? Because I was a ticking time bomb. At any moment, I could have crashed out way, way harder. You get what I'm saying? Any moment. At any moment. You get what I'm saying?

Like, let's say that motherfucking busted ass Adidas would have hit me.'s say I wouldn't uh you know what I'm saying another one of the viral moments from that show that night yeah I would I would have jumped out there and punched somebody I'd have did some punching you get what I'm saying or whatever or it's simple if I walk out the door right now when I feel like I'm you know I'm threatened or whatever it's so many different things that could have triggered me in whatever ways that could have led to this shit going way worse and not you know leaving me in the space to where i get time to reflect do i get time to heal do i get time to get my life organized my business organized you know what i'm saying where i get time to spend time with my kids you know what i mean stop giving my attention to motherfuckers

who don't deserve it and get more that attention to my family members you know what i'm saying who need me you know i mean my brother kids you know my kids what have you you know what I'm saying? Who need me. You know what I mean? My brother kids, you know? My kids, what have you. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's so much more. The list is taller than my last. You get what I'm saying? Did you have to change all that, though? Did you have to change the people around you?

Did you see artists switch up on you and people that you thought were family switch up on you? Absolutely. Hell yeah. Was that the hardest? Was that the hardest what? What, artists? Not no artists. I mean family and the people that you thought were your family switch up on you.

Was that the hardest thing to deal with? Dealing with with that it wasn't hard dealing with that because i was born into this cut those shit right so like that type shit really ain't like you know i i grew up the the environment i grew up in man like you know like your family members that goddamn steal your shit help you look for it you get what i'm saying it's like that so it's i'm i'm used to that so that's what a lot of motherfuckers don't know like when it come to me like that part i know anybody across you i've been through that you know what i mean that'd be where a lot of motherfuckers are where i had them fooled too like they're thinking sweet they're not knowing like i didn't already i didn't i didn't have that type of shit done to me and in their streets i done done that type of shit you get

what i'm saying and so that part is whatever the hardest part with it is severing the ties with the motherfuckers who you do like that that particular you know i'm saying group and understanding like like them like really processing that shit like nigga you goddamn tripping you acting like one of them type niggas you you tripping you know that's the that's the hardest part to me but like when anybody i done met through like you know music or some other shit like that man we ain't i'm not you don't trust nobody trust my daughter i trust my daughter i trust people to be themselves man at the end of the day you know i trust people to be themselves and i know a person is is i know it's human nature i know i know it's human nature to to preserve you know what i'm saying your own best interest this way i know you know what i mean so even when people have moments or when people have you know what I'm saying your own best interest this way I know you know what I mean so even when people

have moments or when people have you know that's natural like that ain't something I hold against a motherfucker see those the type of like those the type shit like that I

that's the type shit I can reconcile but anybody who done ever who done ever tried to like assassinate a nigga character you get what I'm saying like

or take money out out my pocket you know what I'm saying or especially motherfuckers who I done put money in they pocket or you know what I'm saying like or take money out out my pocket you know I'm saying or especially motherfuckers who I don't put money in a pocket or you know I mean like like you got motherfuckers who would go from goddamn boy you saved my life you saved my life the goddamn you feel me if if it's to say they face their goddamn act there boy it's like my nigga like this shit is like you know it's black and white you know what i'm saying so it's

like you got that type of shit like i ain't i don't come up off of that like i ain't a person you can ever you know if you come back around me and trust me boy you's a fool i'm letting you know right now like don't it don't matter how long it don't matter how much time it went by like trying to assassinate my character playing with my family playing with my family, playing with my kids, playing in any way that can affect my kids, that type of shit. Like, yeah, I'm on your ass 4L. Like, I'm on your ass. I wouldn't even fuck with me.

And I, you know, and I would tell people that. Like, I'm not even, I wouldn't even let a motherfucker come around me. Like, I still wish a motherfucker the best because I'm not that type of nigga. Like, I never needed to, you know what I'm saying? Like, dim somebody else's light for my light to shine bright. You know what I mean? I came in the game, shed my light on everybody. So with that said, what happened with Thunder 4 Vegas?

He took a different route with his journey. You get what I'm saying? And, you know, like, that's one of them. That's the nigga, like, right now. Like, I tell the nigga right now, like, you know, I'm happy for him because whatever you're doing now, that's what you want to be doing. That's what you'd rather be doing. I'm that type of nigga. You see what I'm saying? Like, I'm that type of nigga. You see what I'm saying?

Like, I'm that type of nigga. I ain't never. It ain't a nigga. And, bruh, no. It ain't a motherfucker in this world. It's not another nigga in this world. That's you talking about your daddy. I'm not even going to say ever because I don't want to wish that for him.

But currently, and he know. It ain't no nigga that want to see him win the way Baby wanted to see him win. Y'all know that, too. The first time y'all saw me in this bitch, who I had to me come on bro who i had next to me every question i diverted the attention boom to him every interview every interview everywhere i go i'm gonna it don't matter who i meet every fan every fan every goddamn uh tastemaker every person in the industry when you get done talking to me and everybody wanted to talk to me I got them you met Stunna for Vegas and walk off you know what I'm saying do your thing so yeah brother no did he he reached out to me okay you know I'm saying not too long ago he reached out to me you want to

get back but but like I don't necessarily know what he want to do but he reached out to me I commend him for that too but you know just like I told him like bro that's something you know that's something you you supposed to do on the front end. You know what I'm saying? That's something you're supposed to do on the front end. He made it public. Yeah. I mean, made what public? The fact that he wasn't with you no more.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He ain't supposed to let niggas play like that. You get what I'm saying? Like, you ain't supposed to. It don't matter. You're supposed to move on. You ain't supposed to stop for nobody. You ain't supposed to.

If you in a situation, if you want more, I'm not. And that's the thing about me. And it don't stop with an artist or whoever, right? Cameraman, videographer, whatever. I don't put ceilings on nobody. So if God damn fucking with me, and that's what's going to happen. If you get around me, you supposed to feel like, boy, I can do anything. That's what I do.

So when you do, when motherfuckers get the feeling like that, see a nigga that did them that and nah, nah, wants you to play small, that's a fuck nigga. I'm not. I've never been there. I don't fuck with little niggas. I don't fuck with even in the streets. Like, I don't fuck with.

I could have been had even now. Like, I could come in here and have 100 little niggas out there ready to do anything I say. You get what I'm saying? I don't fuck with them type of little niggas. I fuck with niggas who want to goddamn go do something. Niggas who's like me, who see something and who all it takes is for them to see something and then they feel like they can boom, go do something. Niggas who's like me, who see something and who all it takes is for them to see something

and then they feel like they can boom, go do it. So like with that being said, like I don't put ceilings on nobody. So whenever anybody around me, you know, feel like that they can go further by, you know, taking their own path and not, you know what I mean? Not what I necessarily say,

boy, you should do this, you should do this, you should do that. Whether it's working or not. I goddamn, I say spread your wings and I'm gonna be the first nigga to clap when you do this you should do that whether it's working or not i goddamn i say spread your wings and i'm not and i'm gonna be the first nigga to clap when you do it i spent more money on artists than interscope than spent on me and that's facts you know what i'm saying honor right here used to tell you to remind me all the time you goddamn like hey bro like make sure motherfuckers is goddamn great niggas don't do shit like they used to tell me like bro niggas don't do shit like that like i'm i'm cash eighty thousand dollars for for niggas videos you know i'm saying before anybody

even know this month like a motherfucker can go from goddamn goddamn the motherfucker could have been goddamn homeless the day before yo ass we taking the jet to this spot to shoot your video like this you shooting a video with the same quality the same the same production value is my videos and i'm the i'm the hottest artist in the world right now you get what i'm saying if i'm going this place if i'm going to this award show i'm gonna have your ass right here every person i talk to boom boom that's where you yeah that's where you first met so you know the the the difference like when it comes to like artists like stunning you get what i'm saying and other motherfuckers he for for a period of time, he did the damn thing.

He did what I wanted to see him do. You get what I'm saying? He went out and got them and did his thing. You know what I'm saying? For whatever period of time that he did do it. Like, I remember it was certain motherfuckers. We had certain motherfuckers. Like, they'll want to work with him just as much as me. And that was the goal.

That's what a nigga wanted. You get what I'm saying? But for other motherfuckers who see that and like I'll never be a lick I ain't never been a successful lick like it ain't gonna happen you might think you might think it's got them going there but shit ask around bump into these motherfuckers and ask them how it end up going or just look

you know what I'm saying we seen enough yeah I ain't talk about like responding that way though but I'm just saying like it ain't no push over and not goes. Yeah, I ain't talking about responding that way, though. But I'm just saying, it ain't no. You got a pushover. Yeah, it ain't. And not even no pushover.

It's just like, I do things righteously at the end of the day, even when I get on a nigga's ass. And that's why I make it through these shits. That's why I goddamn overcome any of these obstacles. Because if I goddamn do something, I did it righteously. Whether it's goddamn something that's considered good or if it's something, if it's goddamn, if I kill a nigga, I did it righteously.

You get what I'm saying? So I'm going home. I ain't even tripping and I'm goddamn, I'm like this all night. I might suck my thumb like my daughter. I'm sleeping so motherfucking good

because I'm not doing nothing that I ain't supposed to be doing at the end of the day. But there's trauma that comes with that too and you've had to do that. You've had to defend yourself. Yeah, absolutely. But I'm sure doing nothing that I ain't supposed to be doing at the end of the day. But there's trauma that comes with that too. And you've had to do that. You know, you had to defend yourself. Yeah, absolutely.

But I'm sure there's some trauma that comes with that. Like, you know, my man Shaka Sankor, he did 19 years, you know, for a situation that went wrong during a drug deal. And he always says like, there's not a night that he was in there that he didn't think about. See, he went to jail.

That trauma come from jail. Well, you said it came from taking the person's life, too, even though it was in defense, even though it was in self-defense. Yeah, I wasn't selling no drugs, goddamn, when it happened with me. I was shopping for baby clothes. So, you know, you feel me? But, of course, you know, anytime somebody's life is lost, you know, whether knowingly or not, you know,

it probably definitely got some type of effect on you. You feel me? But like I say, I operate righteously. You know what I'm saying? Everything I do, so I'm okay with whatever results I get from that.

Now, if I'm doing something unrighteously, which I don't do, that ain't even how I'm rocking. I don't even got to do that. If I do something unrighteously, then hell yeah, that shit will haunt me every single day. You know what I'm saying?

Like it bother me more that I'm letting motherfuckers play that I'm settling with what I got to offer as a as an artist as a person for two years that type of shit to hunt me more than you know doing something right just seeing it going you know what can be goddamn what can be saw is you know the wrong way was all those situations feel like it brought it on like it's like people wanted to test you because they wanted to see well let me see how how tough the baby is let me see if he gonna try to swing on me let me see i don't even think it was the tough shit i think it was the contrast with me like the fact that like yeah like i'm so animated right and i could be i'm so i could

be so entertaining and then i'm i'm not on tough guy shit like i'd be chilling like i'm not too cool for myself i'm not too tough for myself. I'm not too tough for myself. You got to think, when I switched my fucking name, I wore a diaper to market the new name DaBaby. You get what I'm saying? I had a Glock 23 inside that bitch. So it's a difference. You ain't, you're not going to, you know.

Pistling your pamper is crazy. Right. Pistling your motherfucking. That's crazy. Pistling your pamper is crazy. Pistling your pamper. That's crazy. That could have been it. It would have been a fell off. Pistling the pamphlet. That's crazy. Pistol in the pamphlet. Pistol in the pamphlet. That's crazy. I'm telling you,

if it would have been a fell off, I'd have pulled that motherfucker off. It would have been a fell off. I'm out of this butt ass nigga. Yeah, bro. You know, I think it's the contrast and just the fact that like,

that like niggas ain't, you know, that's how this shit go out here, bro, at the end of the day. So I don't really, you know, I take it, I take it, you know, with a grain of salt, situation by situation. day so i don't really you know i i take it i take it you know

with a grain of salt situation by situation you you play with this shit you know it's hey hey it is what it is you know what i'm saying but it ain't but me knowing that like it don't me knowing where i take it ain't enough for me to goddamn walk around like these niggas and be on goddamn this type of time hell nah i be goddamn smiling doing the tiktok with my daughter you bring your ass over she know bring your ass over here playing she gonna get to looking like boy she gonna she gonna goddamn she see it like get the plan and put like i'm with my with my kids right now bro they doing all that she what's up bro you really i'm with my daughter right now right you know i mean not right now they get the and they and they ignore the warning the you know what I'm saying? They, look, my baby a goddamn. What?

He told you. He warned you. Hey, look, okay. You know, so I think that got a lot to do with why niggas, you know what I'm saying? Like, they got to test it, you know what I mean? Like, that's what people do. And I come from that, too. Like, that's just culture, period.

Like, when it comes to the streets. Like, you see a nigga. I remember seeing, like, an interview with Biggie before. Like, you see a nigga i remember seeing like a interview with biggie before like you see the nigga especially my city or whatever and i come from that like from the carolina like we from the carolinas like this ain't niggas ain't the nigga that's on it's fuck that nigga you know and i'm the only one you see what i'm saying so it's i've been up against all that shit for me to even be able to navigate through that and survive and make it up out of Charlotte like this. Yeah, that ain't you know, that's not normal.

I was already conditioned for that shit. So that's why I can get it can get viewed as arrogant the way I do navigate through situations. I deal with them as a mainstream artist because they not knowing like in my city. That's why I still ain't been another nigga after me because me. Because you got to have a certain type of goddamn skin. You know what I'm saying? You got to have tough skin to come from where we from. You know what I'm saying? You got to.

So I was already conditioned. Like, I'm not. I really ain't trusted when niggas got to, you know what I'm saying, showing me all that love. That's why I ain't come in on no buddy-buddy shit. You know what I mean? So that's why when it go left, like, I don't got a thousand industry friends where I'm like, goddamn, bro.

I wasn't trying to, man. I'm like, hey, what's up? We doing music? Because all that goddamn trying to fake kick and shit. Man know what that's about I ain't I'm just waiting to burn you when you say that's all I'm doing you say you sleep good it's interesting too because I'm even thinking about when dude trying to come on your property oh yeah you had to shoot him yeah he was Arnold was there too he was listening to the project when you said that I didn't even remember I forgot the Walmart Walmart was a whole different I was talking about the house thing because I yeah i remember that too yeah i didn't you know

but yeah uh things like that have happened to you it's not like you're not bringing it on yourself you know what i mean but like that's what i'm saying like and see him like that's i do things righteously i got out there i've been waiting for somebody to come to the crib that's I could have that was the comeback that was my kids that was my seat in terms and that's what I'm saying and like babies are all but when I of my babies would have if any one of my kids would have been out of took that nigga whole face off and then went live for y'all but I remember you posted that people even know that you're always with your babies why was like just to enter someone's home that way is just insane i'm gonna tell you i did like i was proud of myself and that like going

back to what i say like that's what i'm saying like i do things righteously like like when i get out there and i see wait this nigga ain't no threat this nigga is a this nigga is a slow fan this nigga is a slow fan not to mention the nigga had on leggings with gold stars on them damn when i popped his ass the nigga that was out there with me say now shut up nigga what you i said shut up first then you got to shut up what you come here for what you come here for he said i came to sink the nigga had like one of them little drawstring book bags you know I'm saying as soon as I pop them I get the you know how I neutralized them mm-hmm see what you got he uses these words

he's neutralizing till you get here you get what I'm saying I'm patting him down went through the bag I'm because this is I'm going to know what you're here for. You get what I'm saying? I go in this bitch and I see the nigga had a pack of beef jerky. God damn. I thought you were going to say baby oil. But go ahead. Something.

I'd have popped his ass. He'd have had some baby oil. Because what you doing? What you coming here for? What you coming here for? I ain't even know none of that shit. We ain't doing none of that. I'm going to get you up out of here right now.

You ain't going to come back and order nobody up. We ain't doing that. But the nigga had a pack of beef jerky. It was halfway eaten. The nigga had some, what the nigga had? A pack of beef jerky, a little bag of bullshit ass weed. A little bit of weed, man. Probably about a gram and a half of weed.

Whatever he rolled the weed in, a pack of backwoods in uh a id a college id a school id for new york school of the arts and in his picture he just so innocent i said you don't know all of that before no no no somebody getting shot yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody got to get shot. I got to let you know when you cross that gun line, your ass getting shot. Because I can't even have people thinking, this ain't show and tell around this bitch. It's dangerous. It's like, well, Mufasa told Simba, don't take your ass over there. Yeah, yeah. You see what happened when he went over there? So somebody got to get it.

He went over there, them niggas done killed Mufasa. You see what I'm saying? So it's like, boy, you got to know. It's consequences and repercussions when it come to this but i was so proud of myself for how i handled that because when i see that i say wait this nigga sing for real like and he had a notepad i said this nigga sing he couldn't and he had on like the shoes i think they call like toms they like the shoes that the the karate kids be wearing and shit but they really jail shoes they give them in jail down there. So I'm like, this is in a Carolina Panthers hoodie and some gold leggings,

no, black leggings with the gold stars like all over them, like step and repeat, like stars. The shimmery stars. No, leggings. Like the ones you wear. The ones... He had on the ghetto bitch leggings,

the ones that's at the beauty supply store. I swear to God, I say, wait a minute. I say, hmm. The ones they wear when they put their hands on their knees thank you i said i said i say this is a setup i say either this is a setup or this nigga i knew he was slow because you got to be slow to even be back here you but i'm like okay this nigga this nigga slow and you know he's not a threat you get what i'm saying, but I had already neutralized them You know first just to make sure I didn't get out there and he didn't harm me or anybody that was on my property At the time, you know what I mean? And then you know, I told him come get this nigga up real quick

He bleeding on my turf, you know I'm saying I had to neutralize Please come get this guy off my lawn because I love that. And shout out to them. They ain't, not the black dude that pulled up because he's Uncle Tom. He pulled up. Shut up. Go stand over there. I said, who the fuck you talking to? Nigga, you lucky I ain't killed this bitch ass nigga. Nigga, hurry up. I said, hurry up. Get him.

Now I'm mad. You get what I'm saying? Now I'm, you know what I mean? Because he came like, what you doing bro? Like, nigga, I called you. I just had to open the gate for you, bro. You ain't even, you couldn't even get in. Y'all at the gate beeping the horn and shit with sonny aside just let you in why you come over here and think did you hear the phone call nigga like why you think the niggas that nigga this is my shit why you think the one standing here is nigga help him that's what i called you for i didn't call and say somebody's in trouble that ain't the call you got i said somebody shot

hurry up and get him. Why y'all niggas got that baby oil sitting there like that, man? Y'all niggas. We not going to demonize baby oil, man. I just saw that shit out of the corner of my mouth. You see his autographs? Baby oil has been good to us. It was a gift to Charlamagne.

Y'all got this shit everywhere. And Envy. No, they had it. Y'all niggas crazy, boy. We used to be signed to Revolt. Okay? Used to. See, y'all on that bullshit.

Y'all on that bullshit. Y'all on that bullshit. But yeah, man. I said all that to say I do things righteously. So that's a prime example because that wasn't nothing but a free kill. And I could have went platinum the next day with the type of negative shit and the shit that this world gravitates towards and that type of shit. So that's proof in itself that I don't exploit these types of situations when they do go that way because then that would be me doing it unrighteously.

Listen, the Vice President of the United States of America said she owned guns and if somebody breaks in her house, they're getting shot. Absolutely. A thousand percent. Especially in the South. I'm from the South. I want to ask you about Hollywood Freak. You know a little Hollywood Freak?

Because it made me think like what's more enjoyable a Hollywood Freak or a 704 Ratchet 704 Ratchet I'm a Hollywood Freak it's weird than a bitch yeah I can vouch I can vouch a nice ghetto thing

but you also say you hate a nice chick I hate a nice chick when I say a nice ghetto thing, I don't mean a nice. No, I mean like nice. You mean like built nice. Not even built. Like, you know, just Just nice.

Yeah. But not like nice, like friendly. Not friendly. Yeah, because on I hate a nice chick. I hate a nice chick. So you don't want to chick that guy manas? With me?

But fuck everybody else. Except me and your daddy. Oh, so you don't want her to be friendly with other people is what you're saying? Fuck no. You say you got too much ops out here. Okay, I see what you're saying. I don't got ops. You say it in your song.

I say I don't got too many ops out here, but you know I got shots like I'm at the bar. I don't got ops, but I keep shots. Plenty of them. Jesus. How the fuck is this a mixtape, man? Listen, during all this stuffxtape, man? Listen, during all this stuff you faced, man, I just want to know,

you always appear confident and strong in public, but I wonder if you projected that confidence as a way to convince yourself that you weren't going through what you were going through. Absolutely.

A thousand percent. Not, and not even, you know, absolutely. I don't even got no fucking, no runaround when it comes to that.

A thousand percent, for sure. And that's like what That's a problem that I feel like A lot of black men in particular have Like this is what we literally gotta do You know what I'm saying Like it ain't nobody else to where

Okay you get pulled over You know what I mean The nigga wanna shoot you off the rip So it's like we been conditioned to be like this for so long, not to even get too revolutionary. You get what I'm saying? But it's a real thing. Like, you know, I done had police goddamn try to kill me several times.

You know what I'm saying? Like, felt it. Like, oh, these niggas finna kill me. Like, when you already got four, five niggas on you, probably about six, and they still saying, stop, give me your hands and they already about to break your arm it's like nigga hold on you already got them like what you tell you know what's going on you get what i'm saying when that shit start moving in slow motion you know something gonna happen you know what i mean so it's like yeah i'm you know so many so many different scenarios and situations but just

me just being a a black man who who stand on morals and principles, period. I'm in danger every second I step out the door, and I can't show weaknesses. I can't, you feel me? I'm conditioned to believe that I can't show weaknesses because as a black man, they preyed upon. Like, the second I feel like I show vulnerability as an artist, I saw it get preyed upon. You get what i'm saying

like from the from from everywhere you know what i mean from the media to everybody like i saw it and i'm like oh niggas got me fucked up like they don't you know what i'm saying like i really don't you know it's really this way but at the same time you know that's just that's a never ending never ending process to navigate through you get what i'm saying and i think the best way to navigate through any process is gracefully. And that's what I'm on. You know what I mean? Instead of being combative

with this shit or whatever. Like, that shit takes too much energy. And a person like me, I can easily be consumed with that shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, I started making music

for the haters. Like, what the fuck am I doing? I started making music to where I'm only addressing these bitch-ass niggas that I feel this way about. I'm tripping. They not the ones who buy. You get what I'm saying? I see ass niggas that I feel this way about I'm tripping

They not they not the ones who buy you get what I'm saying. I see the fans like damn nigga You got them showing them more loving than us. We want to got them, you know, we should we the ones that love you So it's like, you know and everybody like be careful anybody whatever it is that you do like Now you don't get tricked in the you you know what I mean? Like, allowing your purpose to become proven. I done already did that. Like, it ain't nothing a hater can take from me. You get what I'm saying? There's nothing a hater can take from me.

You got to come take something from me that is hard to take. That's it. You get what I'm saying? But other than that, like, you know, don't get lost in the sauce. I got lost in the sauce. I'm real enough to say that. I got lost in the sauce and allowed myself to goddamn get tricked

out of my position. And I hold myself a thousand percent accountable for that shit. And I'm glad you started the baby Kaz so other people don't get lost in the sauce.

Absolutely. In no way, shape, or form. But you should be in the first in line for your own program. Bro, that's what I'm saying. That's something I've been advocating

for the past two weeks. I need this shit. So it's like when people say, you know what, it's something that I need, you know what I mean? I'm a grown ass man, and I know, you know, I know me at this age could've utilized this program. I know my nieces

can need this shit. I know my nephew need it. I know plenty of people, bro. Plenty. Millions of people around the world, you know what I mean? And that's what I started the Baby Carriers for. Shout out to Tammy for helping me take that all the way up through there. It's something I've been wanting to do. You know what I'm saying? But now I can do it on a large scale, and I love the recognition it is getting

because I can already see it, you know what I'm saying, drawing people in. I already know what time. I be seeing these niggas copy every goddamn thing else I do. So hopefully, you know what I mean, niggas get the goddamn, you know, hopefully a light of fire and somebody else to, you know. Go on a journey of healing. Absolutely, bro. I saw you said

on Sway, the baby had to sit down so that you could take care of Jonathan. Absolutely. What does taking care... We talked about all the other stuff, right? But like, where you are right now, you seem like you're in a very different mental space. What is taking care of Jonathan? Um... I mean, shit.

It's really all this shit I'm doing collectively, like, number one is, is, number one is hold myself accountable so I can identify the things that I do need to tend to, you get what I'm saying, rather than goddamn diverting shit and, and deflecting shit, you know what I'm saying, and blaming it on this or this, or, man, I'm going through this because of this or because of that, like, nah, like, I done did plenty of shit ahead of time that, that even got people to even think about you know placing me in this type of box you know what I'm

saying so I got to hold myself accountable for these things but it's it's just moving better you know what I'm saying and and and getting organized getting on top of my business get on top of my personal life you know I'm John I be in Jonathan be in the gym now you know I'm sorry hold on I ain't been in the three for this why I wore the beater. I thought you would have asked me that shit. Grab the baby oil. I do need that.

I do need that because I was running around. I do need that. Y'all can really come on with some of that. I'm not fucking with y'all and this baby oil shit. But nah, I mean, and, you know, and taking care of the people. Yeah, Jonathan be in the gym. But I ain't been in it like three, four days. So this really, you know, this ain't mean.

Okay. You know what I'm saying? God damn, four days. So this really, you know, this ain't me. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Goddamn, Lauren. What the fuck? You want to put something on me? No, I don't want to put the baby oil on you. I don't want to get you in trouble. She's single as a mother.

She's single as a mother. Okay, back to what's taking care of Jonathan. She's single. You said you want to take care of Jonathan. No, that's not what, oh my God. We're not doing this. You want to take care of Jonathan? Can we move on?

It's up to you. We are not doing this. We are not doing this. Can we play a joint off the album? I would love to. Yes, album something. Do you want to play something introspective or do you want to play one of the radio joints?

What you want to do? It's up to you. I like Ain't That a Bitch, but then I think Fat can go for the radio. Fat is definitely the radio joint. I already knew what Fat was. I like Ain't That a Bitch, but then I think Fat can go for the radio. Fat is definitely the radio jump. I already knew what Fat was. I really could have just came with that as a single, but I'm like, nah, they got to get the person.

You know what I mean? Let's do both. Do Ain't That a Bitch and Fat. I mean, you know, if the opportunity presents itself, I won't turn it down. We can do both of them. Ain't That a Bitch and Fat. All right, we're looking into Fat right now.

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