The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: DaBaby Talks Gratitude, Processing Trauma, Advice To The Youth, New Album + More

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, DaBaby Talks Gratitude, Processing Trauma, Advice To The Youth, New Album. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We got a special guest. in the building. Yes, indeed. Almas out right now. Be more grateful. Ladies and gentlemen, the baby. The baby. The baby.

What's up, man? It's always a pleasure. I'm blessed, man. I'm in the season of gratitude. I'm way more grateful. I want you know, I like what I just saw, by the way. No, for sure. Come on, man.

We're talking about that. We're starting to do. I'm like that. It's like, what we do. Come on. Come on. Come on. Man, look.

Look. Look. Hey, look. I ain't about to get started. Don't let's all to do that. Do that. I'm going to like 17 minutes in to get started. I ain't going to get started, man.

I went right over, then. Well, how are you feeling? How's everything, man? And I'm blessed, bro. I'm blessed, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like, you know, the way I'm feeling is showing. It's reflected in the project. I just dropped me, what I'm saying?

I'm in a season of gratitude. I'm in a great place, bro. You know what I'm saying? If we go back and just, you know, we revisit the conversations the last few times we we didn't meet, like, you would see it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just, I'm in a great space. And, you know, was there a particular.

moment that made you realize you wasn't being grateful enough? Or you just... Oh, shit, it was a moment that lasted about four years. You feel me? So, you know, but it's beautiful to get on the other side of that shit, man. It's beautiful, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I met with it right now. It wasn't no particular moment.

Like, it wasn't no pivotal. It was several, you know what I'm saying, moments that I could identify as that. But, you know, it takes time. It's all a part of just, you know, life itself, you know what I'm saying? And growth, you know, you got to stand across the street from yourself sometimes and look at what's going on. Stand across the street, see how big your house really is.

Word, wow, wow. Yeah. With the mind frame for this album, right, listening to the album, the one thing I always say about the baby is I don't think people respect you as a lyricist as they should, right? Yeah, they got me fucked up.

Listening to the album, I'm like, Jesus Christ, now, you're gonna be a lot. Cussing up a storm. Now, listen to the album, man, I mean, I love to hear you spitting. I love the songs as a DJ because I love to play the records in the club.

Yeah. But I love when you rap and rapping. No, for sure. That reminds me back in the day when we used to go to Charlotte and see you out there passing our seats. Come on, man. Back to that baby. Was that intentional?

That raw shit, it was super intentional. You know what I'm saying? I ain't, I ain't shy away from it. I won't even say shy away from it because I ain't ever been, you know, I ain't ever been shy about getting in front of a microphone and just rapping like I actually love doing that. But I ain't dumb it down or try to, you know, let me make a hit or satisfy. You get what I'm saying? A particular audience.

Like, it was real important to me with this project to, like, make sure that I wanted to reestablish. You know what I'm saying? My audience, you know what I'm saying? And, like, you know, it was real important that this shit checked all the boxes and really shows you, you know what I'm saying, like, what I could do

and really put this shit on display. Because before, you know, I make a club record, I make a bang, I know how to do that, I know how to market them, I know how to blow it up, I know how to do all that, but that's something everybody can do. You get what I'm saying?

Like, when it comes to just that raw talent, that raw lyricism, like getting in front of a microphone, just rapping, not all them extra instruments in the beat, open that bitch up and let me just, give me a blank canvas and let me paint,

Like, I definitely, like, I know, I understand, like, I'm one of the best in this shit right now at doing this shit, so I ain't shy away from it. I made sure I got, like, eight, nine records on there. I almost made a full-blown, what they call them? Conscious album. You get what I'm saying? But I'm like, nah, like, nah, still, you know, it's layers to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, a onion.

It's layers to me. So I got to make sure, you know, I showcase each and every last one of them, like, at the highest level. And that's how I come up with 23 songs. And Stix and Stones in the intro, you said, you're not rapping about that childish shit no more. I've been growing up. What does that growth look like, though? I always felt like you had a good balance of both.

Yeah, like, I don't, you know, only the turn-up shit, only the, you know, like I said in the uh, I don't, and maybe that song too, and that's a different song. But like, you know, just making club records, party records, I know how to make them shake some ass. I know how to get the party started all that. So I wouldn't even necessarily call it childish, you know what I'm saying? but, you know, just the fact that I understand that I can do so much more,

and I'm not leaning in and, you know, walking in my purpose fully. You get what I'm saying? Like, I ain't really showcasing, like, all my gifts, you feel me? I'm just giving energy when I can really put something on your mind. I can teach you something. You get what I'm saying, and I can make it sound good. I can make you feel good while I'm teaching it something. Like, I can get in there and dance with the best of them.

So, yeah, that was childish of me to not, you know, really. lean all the way into that shit half a decade ago because I could have been doing that off the rip, you know what I mean? And you got a few with them. You got a few, bounce that ass shirt,

you know what I'm sure. But then you got records like Mike Check. Yeah. Those like, where you went off on that. Were you more excited to do those kind of records? I was because the other ones,

I mean, I didn't have done that. Everybody know I can, you know, I can make them shake some ass. Everybody know I can turn a party up. But them other ones, I was definitely, I was super excited to really do them and, you know,

and really, I'm going to leave a motherfucker like that speechless after they hear that shit, you know what I'm saying? I want to come to New York and the New York knickers like boy,

like you get what I'm saying like I want that you know what I'm saying because I'm getting that type of, you know that like the the niggas is really the real lyricist hip-hop niggas

yeah I ain't tripping on that but you know they give me my flowers they give me my flowers you get what I'm saying but like it's up to me like I'm my way of doing shit

is more like disruptive like I kick doors down like I blit shit you get what I'm saying so the same way I did that with the energy and the other type of music, like, I never, you know, I never gave myself, like, a run where I, like, just,

boom, like, just really, like, just whoop their ass. Yeah, yeah. With that, with that lyricism and shit, and that's what I'm on, you know what I mean? And like you said, when you come to New York, you want the New York nigs to be like, but New York, New York fuck with me, though, so it's, everywhere, though.

Envy, he listened to the shame, and he was happy about those more conscious records on hand, you know, so. 100%. No, with the evolution, I always feel like, like when people evolve and try to do what's right, I feel like they get tested more. Do you feel like with you, that happens?

Uh, no, I mean. And not just lyricists, I'm just me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I get shit. I got all my tests early and passed. I graduated early when they come to that type shit. I don't, you know, yeah, I, niggas leave me alone.

That's fine. I don't really. You just leave me alone. Thank you, thank you, too, but please just keep doing it. And I'm watching a video. Yeah, that's like the most recent. And I'm like, and I'm,

And I'm saying, I'm screaming to my phone. I'm like, please. Like, don't do it. Don't do it. Please. Please. And thank God. But I was like, I wonder if that happens more often.

Like, people test him because he's a nicer. No. And that was like the first time. And that's why it kind of threw me off. And, you know, if you watch the video. And I wasn't on no serious type time. Like, I wasn't. It's really the security guards.

They worked for the Spectrum Center. It was leaving the Hornets game. Yeah, Hornets game. Or whatever. But he, like, got his hands on much like, like, he holed. back so it make it look like I'm you know what I'm saying but I wouldn't trip and I just wanted to look the nigga in the eyes who said I'm like me take I don't that's why I don't like

wearing shades too I just started wearing shades I only like the prod of ones probably I need to send me something for that only like the proud of ones you know what I'm saying but um I had to just take him up like who the fuck said because you right here at the end of the day so I just wanted to look at him and just you know what I'm saying and but by the time I took the shades off and turned around and told him I'm like bro watch out I'm not I'm not the security guard you know and looked up at me I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm I'm like, man. Just wanted your attention.

Yeah, that's that young nigga shit, that troll shit that these little niggas be doing. But see, a lot of them, they ain't even, like, he don't even know, like, because he even posted it. But, like, he don't know. Like, you know, like, when that type of shit would have got you a different reaction for me,

like, he was probably in, like, middle school somewhere or some shit, so he probably don't know. He may know the way he apologized real quick, but it's like, he don't know, like, okay, he posted it. I didn't already, boom, clicked on his TikTok. You're in Charlotte.

I know what school. I know exactly where you at. If I want to come do something to you, make somebody do something to you. It's like, bro, it's nothing to it. You get what I'm saying? But, you know, that's like little troll shit. You know what I mean?

Like, I wouldn't even post, the little nigga don't even know to take the part of the video out where he got scared and apologize. I'm like, this little nigga green is, he's just happy that I even gave him a moment. You feel me? And it's like, you know, that's a prime example

of, like, you know, with growth and shit. and just understanding what's going on. Like, I'm way more, you know, calculated when it comes to, like, how I respond to shit, like, shit like that I won't eat. You got to be close enough to me for me to even, you know what I'm saying? Like, I wouldn't get that shit, no. I wouldn't get that shit. Even if he wasn't, if he would have been, you know,

the way we can cross past, like, I wouldn't. I know a threat when I see a threat, you get what I'm saying? And I know how to respond to. That's part of the letter to the Y-Ns I see, too. There you go, you know what I'm saying? You break that down because you got a record called Letter to the Y-N. Yeah, for sure. And I had that record, like, and that's a prime example, right, when I say, you know,

ain't rapping about that childhood shit no more. I ever did that record like two years ago. So you look at the bullshit I'm put out in between the time that I made that record, like, that makes no sense, you know what I'm saying? And when I drop it, the world, like, oh, my God, like, this is it. And I'm sitting here. But me in my circle, like, the people who didn't hurt it that's around me, we've been, like, that's it, that's it.

That's it. My older cousin, you know what I'm saying? It used to sell dope. He, that's it because that's it. You know what I'm saying? Like, so we already knew, like, what it was. But me, more importantly, like I feel like, you know, the world had to get with me. They had to get the listeners, they had to get in the space to where they was able to

receive that type of music from me, you know what I'm saying? And that's up to me to put them there. So it takes time for me to, you know, take a step back, not put out certain type of shit, relax, understand the climate of the game or whatever. Lead by example with the way I move and shit, period. Like, you know, I ain't trying to go from telling you goddamn shake something to goddamn, I got damn letter to my Y-N immediately, like, you know, because I got motherfuckers so, so goddamn on the hook with this, you know.

So it was just, it's all a learning experience with me, you know what I'm saying? I'm just, I'm moving and grooving through it. But this album here, I made sure I checked all of them boxes, you know what I'm saying, letter to my Y'N, beautiful song. I wanted the whole project really to be some shit. A motherfucker can put on 10 years later and really, like, you know, learn something, some shit you can put on, you know, a decade or two from now. And really, you know, whoever that is in that time,

period, they can still gain some understanding and some knowledge from the shit. Like, like them classics, like the type of shit I ride to. You know what I'm saying? On the daily basis, I wanted to make a classic, you know what I mean? Do you think about your nephew when you... 100%. 100%. So having him starring

that video, you know, that was beautiful, you know what I mean? To see, even to see him, you know, digesting it. He'd been and had the song, you know, he knows all my shit, that's my... That's my little nigga right there. That's your little twin right now. Come on, man. What? Love that boy to death. But, like, even like, wow. doing the music video and it's parts where I'm sitting,

you know, I played on the concept of a belly when Nyes went and sat on the bench with the young nigga and the projects or whatever. Like, that's the concept I wanted to approach, like, with the music video or whatever. But even when I'm sitting there and I'm, like, giving game to him in the music video, of course, we shoot the music video.

He understands this, too. Like, he know that, but he's really, I'm looking at him in his eyes rapping. And he really, like, digesting what I'm saying even further, like, while I'm rapping. And it's blowing the director's mind. All of them, they're like, like, damn, bro, like, he really,

Like he really like a little grown man, brother. Like, what the fuck? Like, they're talking to him. Like, yeah, we just, you know, we're getting ready to, we're getting ready to reset the lights. And then they're talking to him. He's sitting there on the bench. I'm standing up. He's already sitting there on the bench just like this.

This little niggas eight years old. G, a whole G, he's sitting there on the bench like this, the director talking to him. Yeah, we're getting ready to do this. We're going to reset the late. We're just how you rap it again and do this. And my nephew just, just like it. I said, bro, he good. I say he good, bro, he got it.

He's looking like, come on, bro, play the music. Like, it's all, like, look, this is my real life. Like, that's how he's looking. That's what it is. So, you know, I'm really speaking to, you know, people like the cloth that I'm really cut from real, real family members, like, and not only that, it speaks to the world, it speak to people all around the world.

Like, they need that way more than they need, you know, a lot of the other shit that I put out. So, yeah, putting songs, I like that, man, that shit, you know, it feel good, you know, it feel real good. In this season of, you know, you being more grateful and all the things that you're talking about. Do you feel like you, because when I listen to the project, I feel like there's a sense of responsibility that you have that you realize.

100%. What is that responsibility? Like, what did you, what was the moment? What did you realize about it? I mean, I don't even know, like, where it's, I realized that, you know, in the time where, okay, I sat back in, it's really like God, like, he, like, hell no, like, what you, what you're supposed to do way big than all this. I feel like, all this shit is, you know, it went exactly how I was supposed to go.

So until I was ready to, he, like, I was. wasn't, you know, asserting myself like the way I could, you get what I'm saying? Like, I was holding back. So, you know, I feel like until I did realize that and understand, like, you know, my purpose is much bigger and much more important than what the fuck I thought it was. It ain't just to

be, you know, the hottest nigga in the world do this and do that. Like, I got a real story. I got real wisdom, real experience, real life experience. I got them been through real shit. You know what I'm saying? More than a lot of these niggas, any of these other rap niggas, like, I really

A lot of it, I didn't, I didn't went through it right here in front of the world. So it's like if I don't feel like it's my responsibility to, you know, to get the people that's going to come up behind me and the kids and whoever, if I don't feel like it's my responsibility to teach them how to navigate through that shit, avoid certain shit that I didn't went through, you know what I'm saying, not make the mistakes. I didn't make, then who the fuck else is better to do it, especially when they didn't really see me go through it.

You get what I'm saying. And I feel like, you know, the artists that do understand that or the people that do understand that shit, you know what they art form like them the ones that god bless the most you get what i'm saying what about me it's kind of like an open letter to god what about me is yes yes that was one of my favorite ones you know what i'm saying it's just a it's a it's a it's a motherfucking home it's so much depth to it yeah i like i like your i like your um your perspective on it like an open letter to god it's really and it ain't even the god it's just more so just me just being just transparent you know what i'm saying really i i try to make sure i was transparent throughout the entire project but i i i've made

sure I put that song early in the track list, you get what I'm saying? So making the track list was so motherfucking difficult, man. Because it's so much shit to it, but I wanted to make sure, okay, off the rip, I come with sticks and stones, then I gotta come, I gotta give them some energy, I gotta make sure they have a good time. And the production on pop that thing, like, made that easy to do, because it's still like, I think the genre is like, what, what's that house music or something? What would you call that shit?

Jersey Club. Jersey Club mixed with like, yeah, it's different. There were a lot of songs that gave me Uncle Luke a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You see, it's house music, and that's what it gives off. For sure, but I don't want it to go straight into something, like, why I still had that mellow, but still some shit to make you move

coming out with pop of that thing. I'm like, all, let me goddamn speak to him, though. Let me, at the beginning, like, you know, from the first three songs, I wanted to make sure, like, you understand, like, who I am, you know what I'm saying? Strip me. I ain't talking about no, I ain't talking about nothing material. Yeah.

I ain't talking about none of that shit, you know what I'm saying? And that's what I wanted to do with, what about me just pretty much, you know, let motherfuckers in on, like, how I'm really feeling, you know what I'm saying, on the inside, you know what I mean? So songs like that, I feel like it's just super important. That's just a display of transparency. Do you feel like the culture allows black men room for redemption,

or they just demand apologies? Shit, man, just like everything else back in the day, we got to go get that shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, the coach are going to allow what you, what you get up out of it at the end of the day, you know? Shit, they ain't allowed us to do none of this shit. We had to go do this shit. Everybody in here, you know what I'm saying?

It ain't just, it would never just know, huh, you know? And everybody in here to have been battle tested within whatever lane at the end. You get what I'm saying? Like, that's what's going to come with it. So, you know, I'm really not only like in a season of gratitude, but like, well, I guess it took me to be in the season of accountability prior to that. That's kind of like more so where I was last time I came to see y'all, you know what I'm saying?

I feel like that comes first, you know, just identifying, you know, what mistakes you made and how you could have did it better. You know, you got to make the adjustments move accordingly. And when you get on the other side of it, okay, then, you know, you get to be like where I'm at with it right now and it's a head space. So, you know, I don't really feel entitled for nobody to take it easy on me. The coach, the business, none of that shit, you know. And when you do, you know, just to put motherfuckers up on game, like when you do, you know, fall into, like, that sense of entitlement or feeling like a motherfucker, oh, you're something, you ain't doing nothing but distracting yourself from what you're just supposed to do.

Coming off of your four-year hiatus, would you say making this album was more therapeutic? A thousand percent. A thousand percent, especially when I do it the way I did it. Like, I can say making music is therapeutic, period. Certain music make you feel good. But once their song go off, okay, it's back to reality. It's shit on hit it. You know, they can talk to anybody that's going through whatever.

It don't matter what. It's, you know, everybody feeling different at every single moment of the day. It's a song on this damn track list for everybody. this world you know what I'm saying motherfuckers that don't got nothing motherfuckers they got everything you know they got everything and they're happy and they feel good motherfuckers they got that thing and ain't at peace with themselves it's something on there for everybody so it wasn't i wanted to make sure that it wasn't only therapeutic for me but therapeutic for the listeners you know what i'm saying like some shit that really really you know tap into them them emotions and you feel something to make you feel

some type of way like that's what i'm on the other shit you know you mentioned therapy um i think it wasn't what about me. Are you actively doing therapy? So I did it. I'm finishing up my documentary. It should end up coming out this year. That's going to be like must-see TV too. It's going to be like a documentary series. It's going to be multiple like parts of it and shit. But when the way that I approached it, like I sat down and did and did therapy. I started my, this is, I had did therapy at all last time. I saw you. I had never in my life. You know what I'm saying?

And I filmed it. I filmed it. So I filmed it for a week straight. I did therapy. I did five therapy sessions, I believe. All of them, like, two to three hours long, you know what I'm saying? But I didn't meet the therapist and nothing. Like, I found the good one. I got recommendations.

I found the good one or whatever. I had the camera crew go in and set the lighten up. I had my people's talk to them after that. I didn't even know who the nigger was when I walked in the room to come do it because I wanted to be organic. Like, I'm not doing this to, I had already handled all the, you know, like sign off on me being able to use your voice and document or all that type of shit because I wanted that part out the way, you know what I'm saying,

the business part, legal part, whatever you call it, you know, because they're really not even allowed to do that shit. See what I'm saying? Like, by law, they're not allowed to do that shit unless, you know what I'm saying? Like, giving permission to do it or whatever. So he was big on that. Like, nah, you got to, hell, nah, like, you got to say that you're okay with this shit because it's, you know, it's against, like, you know,

the rules and shit that come with his profession. But when I walked in, I didn't even know who he was, so I'm getting ready to go talk to a camera, nigga, like, I had to tell him about, like, which one was the therapist and shit. He told me which one was the therapist and shit then I go where I greet him We sat down and got straight to it Salamaine

I know you real big in the mental health space By the third day And he didn't talk about no music shit To like the last day You know what I'm saying By the third day man this nigga had me on camera crying Man I'm on that bitch crying For like 20 minutes straight

Yeah nigga ain't never You know Because I'm Even when it come to like You know What was the breakthrough? Oh man It really

it piled up on me. I ain't going to lie. Like, because he, like, he know what he doing. I recommend it to anybody. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I can't even, like, he, he, rocked me to sleep in there. He figured me out, bro, I can't lie.

Like, I don't, because, you know, me, like, from interrogations and all this shit, I'd have been questioned by homicide detectives,

everything. Like, I didn't, you know, like, and didn't even lawyer up, you know what I'm saying? In certain situations.

I answered one thing wrong. Like, I wouldn't have never been able to sit right here ever, you know what I'm saying? Like, so I, when it come to like, okay, somebody being intentional with talking to me and like trying to get something out of me, like, I kind of, I feel like I'm better or I'm more equipped to navigate through this type of shit, you know what I'm saying, than most people. You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't just going to sit there. I kind of know, okay, this is why this nigga asking me this or whatever, unless I got, you know, respect for a muffling. Like, when I sit down with y'all, I don't sit down like that.

Like, I ain't thinking, okay, what this, what this? That's her angle. What's his angle? What's his angle? When you're talking to me? I just talk, you know what I'm saying? Because I got respect for you. I feel like y'all got respect for me in my mind. You know what I'm saying? So it's different. But with certain motherfuckers, like, everybody else though, it's like I'm kind of, you know, I'm going to control the conversation. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's talking about. He's asking me, he's asking me should I've never been asked before. You get what I'm saying? So I'm going to, when a nigga had me, that third day, when a nigga, and then I'm crying and still talking, I'm like, what the fuck going on? I'm like, what type of shit is this? And he's still. And he's still. And he's, Why I'm crying? Just still sitting there, it's okay. Instead he asking me, shit, I'm like, what the fuck? It's niggas in there, you know, like my partner just working on a documentary with me. Like, he had part of my in-house production team or whatever. When I got done and got up, and walked back around, like, the curtains that we had in there.

We had all the production shit set up at and shit, the monitors, all that. And the niggas is recording the audio, listening to the audio all that. Them niggas couldn't even look at me, like, because they're hearing my story. Like, they didn't heard, you know, days and they, like, without them. They're hearing shit. They never even knew about me. these niggas didn't know me for 10 years, 15 years by now. I come around the corner and he's like, bro, just go ahead and go home.

I'm a rap, everything. I'm like, I'm like, nigga, was you crying to? Nah, for real. So that's going to be adding that component to it, right? And like the making, like, because it really didn't turn into a mental health piece, you get what I'm saying? But it also got all that other shit, violence. You know what I'm saying? Controversy.

All the shit that make motherfuckers that make shit must see TV. You get what I'm saying? The messy shit, this and there, they got the. It got the glitter to gold. It got the struggle. It got the success. But it's all the skeleton of it, the meat and potatoes of it, is mental health. You know what I'm saying?

It's a healing piece to it. Absolutely. The title of it, it should have told the therapist. I am glad you had some time just to be still the last four years, though, because I think you always had a lot of trauma that you never got the process. Yeah. I mean, you know, stuff before you even got in the game. Right.

And I think people always forget that that moment when you got to, you got to, number one record in the country, you get a call that your pops no longer. Exactly. And you still got to just keep it moving. You got to keep going. And that's what I did. And the song I got out, it's the shit I'm got going on. It's fun shit.

It's packing the mail is gone. So I got the whole world turn. Yeah. Okay, cool. The hustle and just the schedule being so busy in the type of year I had 2019, that allowed me to cope with that. I get the care of the name. You know what I'm saying?

For my pops, I name my second album, Kurt. You know what I'm saying, in honor of them or whatever. That goal number one, I'm, I'm doing all the, I'm checking all the boxes, BET Award, I grew up on that shit, that was my Grammy, you get what I'm saying, best new artists, artists, I'm breaking all these records, doing all this shit, right? Then I go

with a rock star in the heat of COVID, number one, record, Billboard Hot 100, number one for like eight weeks straight, but I can't move around and keep myself busy or whatever, but this is okay, another, this is as high as you can go as the artist, you get what I'm saying, I got the top streaming

song in the world, my brother commits suicide, you know what I'm saying? So it was never, you know, coming in, it was already shit that, you know, that I probably needed to heal from or whatever. Yeah. And then, you know, lost my pops, then my brother. I-Hart Radio is throwing it back. 20s, the decade.

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It ain't never been a season for me to, you know, it took, yeah, it took that whole four years. I ain't even realized it was four years since I dropped the album until I really put it out and seen the date on this one and the date. I say, damn, four years. Like, that's crazy. Yeah, your fans knew. Yeah, no, for sure. They knew.

They're like, nigga, what you're doing? You know what I'm saying? And shout out for them for not letting me settle with, like how I approached it. They ain't never let me come play the small game. But I had to find my love for this shit again, and, you know, and figure it out. Like when I do something, I like to do it.

I like to put my heart into it. And I just wasn't in the space, you know? My heart wasn't full enough to empty it out into, you know what I'm saying? Well, got you back though. Because on paper low, you said you didn't even want to make music no more. Yeah, yeah. And then I say, I'll be damn. I let them make me quit them.

The devil still can't stand away. I stand in here and make these hits. Really? I mean, more than anything, my kids, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, while I'm looking at myself, knowing I can be so much better, they still looking at me like I'm the best thing in the world, you know what I'm saying? So I credit it all to my kids, man, my family, my youngest, my nephew, all of them to them, I'm a walking superhero, you know what I'm saying, in real life form.

And I look at them the same way. Like, they're amazing, you know what I'm saying? Every last one of them, like, they're amazing in their own way. And I ain't just saying it because they're my kids. Like people who, they're not their kids, like other people, like, see, like, the way my kids is set up and they, like, damn, like, they mind blown, you know what I'm saying? They love you to that. You know, for sure. I love them, too.

Like, that's my whole world right there. My kids is, they don't play by me and they don't mind letting you know, God damn. They're not played by me. Now, clear this shit. Clear this shit. Is that your text to Kanye? Yeah, for sure. You see, I named it.

I named the song, Clear this shit. You're like, what we name it when I did it. My engineer, I said, clear this shit. That's what we name it. You get what I'm saying. And I kind of put, you know, I kind of challenged them to clear. I asked him to clear it in the song, you know what I'm saying? But ain't going to have no fucking choice when Kanye clear this shit.

Like I got, I manifested it. I spoke the shit into existence, you know what I'm saying? And he cleared that shit. I didn't, he cleared that shit. I wasn't even, when I do samples, I try not to even, like, fall in love. I don't like to get married to the idea of even having it on a project because I know how that shit going. I hate falling in love with a song and the shit fucking around can't get cleared.

Because I know that's one of them. I know that's a classic. Like, you know what I'm saying? I know that's Kanye. like era for real for real like you know what I was listening to that shit I don't know I was probably what in high school or something you know what I'm saying none of like I said it yeah when this shit dropped it was in ninth grade when that shit dropped so now shots out to him he cleared that shit you all had a good relationship though

yeah yeah yeah yeah I fought with brad wherever one of the most you know artistically like like that man a whole a whole another animal brand man a genius you know what I'm saying some of the wildest you ever seen while being with Kanye in the studio you know I see it's a wild shit. Somebody was texting why that nigger music was playing man. Damn. Oh, he was...

You asshole. Now I got caught him, man. What's going with you? That nigga flashed the fuck out. He did, bro. He flashed the fuck out. He told everybody, everybody get the fuck out. Everybody. Everybody get out, y'all. Texting while my mama album playing. Flashed

on everybody. It was about 50 motherfuckers in the... Include with me. Everybody got their ass up and got out to it. for me. I sit right there just like this whole time while he got them cussing at everybody. I'm just looking dead at him. Like, he looked over at me. He looked the way he kept cussing everybody else up.

And they walked in the other room. Shut out the car. Did he make everybody wear robes? He acted like he don't know. He didn't even wear. I don't know. I don't know what the hell he made niggas do. I ain't, I ain't with a robe. No, not you. Of course not. Why in the studio, why he was listening. No, nah, I ain't nobody had no robe on in the studio.

Not when I was there. Not, I didn't. Nobody had on a robe. Not when I was there. Not a robe. I don't know. I just heard a robe. Yeah, nah. Not why I was there. He ain't make niggas wear robes, man.

But that man, you know, he on a whole other level when they come to, you know, creativity and just, it's admirable. You know what I'm saying? Like, he got so many different things in one room and, you know, he feed off of him. But, like, just like everything else, that shit come with a lot.

So, you know, hopefully he, you know, get back to where he need to be. You know what I'm saying? So who's this album for it, right? Is it for the fans, the critics, or you? Fuck the critics. It ain't for them. It's for everybody.

I ain't gonna lie. Like, it's, you know, it's for everybody. But for me and the fans more than anything. Like, you know what I'm saying? For the fans more than anything. I gave the album to myself prior to releasing the shit. You know what I'm saying? So it's for the audience.

Like, I'm real big right now. All the way around the board. Like, not even just with the music. Like, even with what I do, like press wise, everything. Like, I've been like, nah, ain't doing that. Ain't doing that. Like, I'm doing, I only want to do shit that's really connecting, like, to the audience.

Like, I'm back on that, like, the importance of really connecting to the audience because at the end of the day, like, that's what, that's what got them, get the, you know what I'm saying, get the ball moving. Like, that's what it's about at the end of the day. Anything can go any type of way, long as you connected with your audience, so I'm real big on making sure I don't get in the space to where, you know, I leave room between me and the motherfuckers that really matter, the motherfuckers who my music really impact who is for, who lives are changed, you know what I'm saying?

So it's a thousand percent, you know what I'm saying, for the audience. and it feel great to myself, by the way, so I take that too. And the critics, yeah, y'all got it too. You know what I'm saying? It's not gonna stop, though. I'm on what I was on when I came in. I'm really ready to bomb again, but yeah,

it's one of the ones. You care about having hits or having peace of mind? Peace of mind now, and then the hits gonna come. If I got peace of mind, the hits coming. You know what I'm saying? Like, just like a record, like pop that thing. Like, that's like the last one I recorded on the album. I really already had the album done and shit,

but it needed. one of them, like it needed that, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was looking for one of them, but I wasn't trying to force it, you know, and, like, even on that record, like, I ain't, like, I could have approached it several different ways, you know what I'm saying? And I found myself just on some shit, like, just letting that shit flow out. She got the world in the hands. I'm just vibing.

You know what I'm saying? I ain't, I ain't doing nothing, nothing too crazy, nothing too major. And that's how, that's how the hits come. You get what I'm saying? Just organic when you just, you know, when you allow it to happen and shit, you know what I'm when you have an outro like Kobe in 09? Yes. Are you trying to?

Because, you know, that was Kobe's year where he had to prove all the doubters' room. He won his first chip without Shaq. He was the final's MVP. Is that the mindset you went? 100%. And, you know, that was originally the intro. You know what I'm saying?

But I was like, I would play that and then play other songs. That was the intro until I made sticks and stones. And the second I made it, I'm like, nah, that's the intro. Because I played Kobe in 2009. That shit deep. You know what I'm saying? That shit go off and everybody, whoa, like, it's heavy. You know what I'm saying?

one heavy even like with the with the singing this is going on in the background like that shit they're you know so I'm like this is actually perfect for the outro but that's definitely like I feel like you know that's like the chef's kiss on the project you get what I'm saying and it definitely you know it it leave your ass at the very end of that shit like whoa you know what I'm saying so that's definitely the mindset with it like just knowing you know I'm I'm at a stage to where yeah like I can't miss I can't miss this shot you get what I'm what I'm saying?

The, where I'm trying to win rings. And not in a sense of trophies. Like, I'm talking about just in life, period. Like, I'm here to win. I'm here to do what I'm called to do. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm here to really, you know, walking my purpose. Like, I really understand, you know what I'm saying?

Like, why I'm here. And it's super important that I, you know, put that shit on display. And I have discernment along the way. And I make the right decisions and everything calculated. And did I apply the type of pressure that, you know, being given this type of gifts like that that shit required you know so that's definitely the mindset Kobe in 2009 these niggas playing I'm in the gym I'm excited you just announced the tour 100% be more grateful to a you're excited you're excited then I'm all fuck I can't wait to get back in front of

him I can't wait especially like with a project like this like you know what I'm saying like that they make it even because it's layers of the live performance like the energy part okay boom bad that and a bad but it's layers of the live performance that I'm super excited to you know to put on display like it's a whole other level of artistry that I ain't never even get the chance to tap into you know what I'm saying like having a fucking live band playing just me and a microphone and rapid air a single word that shit's going to be amazing you know what I'm saying so I really can't wait to get in front of people like it's going to be motherfuckers out bring your tissue bring boxes of tissue is going to be motherfuckers out there pouring their heart out you know what I'm saying

and I can't wait to connect with them and really you know the performance was my favorite part of this shit you know so I just can't wait to you know get in front of the people and really really meet the people and, you know, exchange their energy, you know what I'm saying, and exchange their energy and see right there face-to-face, like, you know, with my music, then been able to do for people. Did you see when Stunner was up in? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did.

Super proud of that, man, super happy for that, man. What you think he called you his brother? You thanked you for launching his career. Like, he's got nothing of respect for you. Man, look, it go both ways, man. Like I said last time, man, I ain't, I ain't never wanted to do nothing to see that man win. So, you know, to see him win. Like a grown man, you get what I'm saying?

And hats off to him And there's, now you got going on. I love that. I love that for him. You get what I'm saying? Niggers ain't, I'm not the type of nigga to where, okay, you got to be,

you got to win with me or I don't want to see you in. Nah, hell, nah. I love that. I really want for my people. I want for a stranger what I want for myself. You get what I'm saying?

I do. You just don't feel like you got to step on my toes to get it. You know what I'm saying? It's my only thing with anybody with a stranger, whoever. And he ain't have to do that. You get what I'm saying?

So to see him come up here and clear the L. you get what I'm saying like like that was that was respectable I ain't got nothing but the utmost respect for that because like I said we didn't have like I said last time we had several conversations you know I'm saying behind closed doors probably or whatever we didn't have conversations we didn't already you know gained a level of understanding I didn't told him I felt about this he didn't already told me the same thing he came up being said like you know what I'm saying so like that's just another another step forward that I'm happy for him and I'm proud of him to be able to sit there and do that shit you get what I'm saying like I respect that as a

man or not as a negative you still you know what i'm saying do business with you they signs you they put you in position none of that don't none of that shit matter because i didn't do that shit expecting nothing in return you get what i'm saying i did that shit to see you got them you know go to go to where i feel like god i got a plan for you to go so to see you go even further and i'm super proud of it and i have understanding along the way too like it's a it's a beautiful motherfucker he he and the sees in the gratitude as well you know what i'm saying like it's so so i'm aligned with that i get that i understand it and and you know It felt good,

I appreciate it. You get what I'm saying? Like, don't have motherfuckers out here thinking, you know what I'm saying? Something ain't what it is. Like, I ain't a nigga that you know. You know me, if you know me, you know like, it ain't, you know, I don't, you know,

I'm a nigga that don't desert it. You get what I'm saying? Clear their shit up and then got them moved for it gracefully. But I'm proud of that nigga, man. I'm proud of him. He and his wife. But then get back to a point with y'all where, like, y'all are, like,

talking all the time. And, like, you guys have built that relationship where it was like a day-to-day thing kind of. I mean, it's going to go how I go. Yeah, it's going to go at the end of the day. Like, I ain't tripping. I ain't opposed to nothing. It's all good.

It's all good. But seeing that nigger, you know what I'm saying? Out here happy as a grown man. You get what I'm saying? Got a son, got a kid that look just like them. You know, I got four kids by now. I didn't have so, like, that's the type. Like, it take that.

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Having a strong, dope woman in this corner. You get what I'm saying? Like, man, look, that shit. That I'm more happy about that than anything. I ain't looking at them. nah, nigger, this y'all time, this y'all moment.

That ain't, that ain't never been my thing. You get what I'm saying? So the rest of that shit, you know, it happened. How it happened? I ain't tripping. Now, on the tour, right, is it strictly be more grateful? Or are you going to get some old hits? That's what I'm saying.

Like, you know, I still got a hit for every bump on your motherfucking face. This is what I like to say at my shows when I get to pop up in my shit. I ain't talking about that. That's why I did not look her in her eyes. She's beautiful. I don't see a fucking blemish. I'm like, that shit flawless. chocolate yeah exactly you know what I'm saying no disrespect envy it ain't

nothing but some some beautiful chocolate people in envy skin clear too my name you like a shiver cookie you know what don't do to see I don't need no I you know what you know like the orange chocolate bar oh right okay continue on sir you know but I don't even know what we was at man got we're gonna get some always on this tool not I say just got just got just getting pretty than a motherfucker I said he got a yeah so classic as far as like performing yeah I'm a definitely I'll let them decide when they come to that. I probably throw one or two in,

but I ain't going to, like, through throughout this time where I ain't dropped in like four years, like, I'd have been blessed enough to like the way I hit the ground running when I first came out. I got a catalog, you get what I'm saying, the web. So songs, I didn't been able to feed my family and continue to make a living. I ain't take four years off

and end up, goddamn out here back selling drugs, goddamn in prison somewhere homeless. My house, goddamn, still sitting right there where it's set. My car is still parked, everything, still everything. Like, you know, so that ain't nothing short of a blessing. But at the same time, like, I didn't been performing them songs, and it's time to really, like, you know, I got the volume of music and the body of work within this new project

to really give them a different experience. But I'm going to definitely take them down memory lane, though. Definitely. Do you have a caterer on tour or you got to do all the cooking yourself? It's no knife, man. You know how I get out. We get a Carolina needs me. You know how I get.

There's no knife. Fuck a caterer. This caterers can't fuck with me I'm just keeping it real. Like when I have people like cook for me Like I'm real picky Like I'd be on their ass Like I'm looking at the way

They're just like I ain't eating that shit Brother them you ain't eating my hell no How much you're gonna tell them I'll ask them what I owe them I pay a nigga Won't even touch it goddamn Niggas be trying to goddamn make the plate Look all pretty putting that green shit

On top of it That grass Put no fucking grass on top of my plate No flour Did you watch that off A little purple flowers they put on your food Man nigga don't put this shit On my

Especially what you're doing that. Come on my face. Come on my face. Come on, man. Don't do that. I don't want to see flowers come from the fucking ground. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? But, nah, I, you know. So you was cooking the whole time even? On my last tour when I went out of whiskey. Oh, or have I just been cooked?

Yeah, I didn't mean, this rap shit, I just started rapping, bro. I've been cooking. Oh, you were cooking all your life. Oh, you know, with your daughters and stuff like that. No knife. You don't know no knife? You don't know, no. I got to put you now. Yeah, no knife. That's my, my, you know, the nigga. When I cook, I'm no knife. Oh, okay. Because I watched the video. You know what cooking with Kirkson.

No, I just see you post videos when you're in the kitchen with your daughters and they're like, like, breakfast and stuff like that. I didn't know that. I call my baby right now and be like, baby, what's your daddy is? She's going to, a chef. She might say a chef more than the rap. I swear to God, but not, like, I get it in. I've been cooking for a long time. The only thing I ever wanted to be, like when I was a kid, you were asked when I wanted to be a chef.

It wasn't never a rapper and none of that until I looked at a, they give you something in school. I don't know what grade it is. like middle school maybe where they show you all the different professions and shit and like okay what they make how much money yeah and then i'm like okay now i don't want to be i don't want to be i don't want to be like i'm like i don't know what i want to be it just got to make a lot of money that's what i just say yeah but i always you know i had a passion for cooking had to feed myself and i know something in that kitchen for sure how important is um 50 cent to who you are man that's that's a nigger that i could really say that's a big brother to me you know and I don't lost a big brother so I don't

I don't play like that you know I'm saying in terms of I ain't know this my big homie type of nigga I ain't never had no big homie you know what I'm saying like so nah that's that's my my big brother that nigga really got real genuine love for me you know what I'm saying he really want to see me win and and real shit like for the people who don't know 50 he's like this with everybody you get what I'm saying now for the niggas who who didn't cross them and that's I'd be with niggas with big hearts you get what I'm saying so I understand it like I I ain't, you know, you don't do wrong by a motherfucker who, you know what I'm saying, who wouldn't do wrong by you who ain't got nothing but good intentions for you, you know, but that nigga is the most selfless nigga, like I didn't ever met in this business, you know what I'm saying? Like, he ain't never stood nothing in the game with me.

We ain't doing business deals and none of that. Like, you know, and I met 50 like, like, literally like a week before the, the whole little cancel shit, you know what I'm saying? A week before. So when I met him, you know what I'm saying? Like we had our first conversation. That's the perfect time to say, oh, no, hell no. I ain't got them, you know, he ain't got no relationship that we didn't build, you know what I'm saying, to honor at that point. He didn't have nothing.

But it was an honor for me to finally meet him and connect with him. You get what I'm saying? And instead of, you know, giving me distance, like majority of motherfuckers did include motherfuckers. You got to make millions of dollars with this and that, whatever. That nigger goddamn pull the nigger closer, put his arm around in there, you know what I'm saying? and really, you know, made it his, he made it a part of his responsibility to help me navigate through that shit, you know what I'm saying?

And ain't let up on his sense, you know? And that's been, bro, that was five years ago. That was half a decade ago. You get what I'm saying? So I ain't got nothing but love for, bro, he always put me, any opportunity he gets to put me in the room to get around motherfuckers who he feel like my potential. You get what I'm saying?

Like I should be in the room with these people, like my potential, give me the ability to tap in with these people and see the other side of this shit. shit and see, you know, what's really out here for me. And what I should be doing, he'd do that without a question. You know what I'm saying? Like, without a question, without a shadow of a doubt. That nigga, get on a motherfucking jet and come fly somewhere and goddamn, he didn't

did it at interscope. Got on the jet, flew out, now. We having a meeting, call out of him. Tell them, have everybody in there, go around the table. What you do? What you do? Okay, so you're supposed to do this when he dropped. Okay, you're supposed to do this.

Like, he really, you know what I'm saying? Want to see me win. You got no EPIA on your projects? Nah. That's crazy. None of that. And that's what I'm saying. It ain't nothing but love 100%.

How many people got fired after that mean? What my time? How many people got fired after that mean? I don't know. I mean, I can't fire the people at Interscope. You know what I don't know. Because I don't even, I don't get off into that in there anyways. Like, you know what I'm saying?

At this point, I don't get off into that. I make the music pop up with it. That's how I'm marketed. I let them, you know, chime in and throw gas on the fire. I like that bitch. Most people don't know, 50 do that with a lot of artists. A lot of people do it. And he never get credit for it.

It's a lot of niggas that got them stories. They just don't tell them. They don't tell them 10 years later. But me, like, the type of person I am, because that's the type of shit I do for people. So I understand, like, you know, how I feel, like, to, you know, to ever, like, have motherfuckers out here, like, you know, painting a picture of your character

when you really is, you know, a selfless person. Like, you know, it's important. And niggas like me, I don't, you know, I'm to speak for myself. Like, I ain't tripping on getting credit for shit. You get what I'm saying? Like, that ain't what I trip on. But when a motherfucker do, it's just like when you, when you asked me about stunning

when he came up in about how he said and all that, I wouldn't never tripping on it. But when you do do it, you get what I'm saying? I know how that shit feel for a motherfucker to acknowledge. You know what I'm saying? What you do for a motherfucker, out of kindness of your heart and out of love and all that shit. So I ain't going to never be a person that, you know, take credit away from anybody. Even if I do fuck around and, you know, and you do some shit I don't like, you know what I'm

saying? Or whatever. Like, it's plenty of motherfuckers. that I got to deal with do business with, that I don't like a lot of shit about them, you know what I'm saying? So even if I do end up addressing that, keeping it real about that,

what I'm going to always do is revisit what they did the right way. You get what I'm saying? I just feel like that type of shit is super important, but 50, that's the realest nigga I never dealt with in this shit, you know? And I ain't saying it because he's 50.

Like, we ain't, you know, we ain't, you never did a single piece of paperwork, no, none of that shit. You get what I'm saying? No, none of that shit. And he didn't spent his own money that help me do things.

You get what I'm saying? Like several times, you get what I'm saying? Yeah, that's a real nigga right there. Love that nigga to death. Are you more intentional now about the energy you allow around? 100% super intentional. Like, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't be passive on that shit at all. You know, I can't, you know, I can't.

Yeah, we, you know, I can't. Yeah, I can't, you know, like I can't, you know, like that shit. That shit's super important, man. It ain't room for that, you know, times before where I kind of let it, you know, I ain't worried about it. I still, you know what I'm saying? Nah, now I'm more so. I'm just super hands on with that shit.

And I don't, you know, I'm going to do it right there, right there on the spot the first time. You know what I'm saying? Because I know what I mean? What's on the back end of that shit of not paying attention to that shit? So I'm not even with, like, you know, allowing certain energy to, like, get comfortable around me and shit like that. I don't got time for there's too much estate. And I know at the end of the day, like, you know, on the receiving end of it, when they go, I had go, ain't nobody held you know

ain't nobody responsible for that shit but me and that trickle down into my family and how I'm able to provide for them and my kids and how I'm able to provide for them and how my story is told how my, you know, how my legacy is written out and that's super important to me is my legacy is everything to

a lot of people, you know what I'm saying? So yeah I got to value my energy and protect it at all cost right now that's what I'm on. Well the album is out right now. Be more great for the album out right now. What you want to hear off the album? What you want to get into. Oh.

I like boom, but you can pick whatever you want. Yeah, yeah. Cobbillian. Don Julio. There's the DMV. Don Julio lemonade. Yeah, it's whatever. The options is there, man.

Damn. It's so many. Let's do, let's do marinate. Let me go to the ladies. Let's do marinate. All right. Oh, that just made, okay. Talk to me.

That just made me think of a question. Okay, so look, you go from Don Julio to marinade. I know. Because, you know, because I was, when I was listening to a project, I'm listening and I'm hearing you go through these songs and I'm like, now tell me if I'm wrong, you're speaking to somebody. Whoever this girl is, she's been holding you down through a lot of like you trying to figure your life out. No, I'm speaking to you. I'm speaking to whoever the fuck listening to that shit. That's why you're not speaking. No, like I'm, you know,

like I got, like you got, and remember this, you know, I ain't made a project in four years and then even the shit I've been putting out. It's more, you know, I'm making a song for a certain real. Okay, let me make this hit. This going, you know, this, okay, people into this type shit right now whatever okay boom let me do that let me go get the money let me do this this is this is like half a decade of energy and experiences and you know what I'm saying storytelling and all this shit so you know it's it's really more than anything like it's it's teaching you how to love me it's teaching you how to deal with a nigga like me like that's what it is you know I seen somebody comment on that shit when I posted that particular song this morning I posted a clip of it where

I'm just rapping it live and motherfuckers like like their perspective like it was a great take on what the song was it wasn't anything I would have came up with on my own because I'm just making the music at the end of the day. But, yeah, they like, this is kind of like a fucking, you know, a guidebook on you, like teaching somebody, like, how to love you and type of man you is. And, you know, and how to keep your mind at peace and what's important to you and how you would like to keep their mind at peace. So it's overall, you know, it's as much, it's for whoever it connect with.

You know, I ain't write no love letter than nobody in particular. Yeah. Well, there we have. Let's get into it right now. No, it's the baby. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Hold up.

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