The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: David Banner Talks 'The Family Business,' Settling At 50, Working With Jill Scott, Music Industry

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

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Jess is out, Llorosa filling in. We got a special guest in the building. Man, I was having it. David Banner, how you feeling, brother? Man, I'm feeling so good. Good to see you, brother. Man, I'm floating, dog. Hey.

I feel like I'm floating, bro. I like to hear that. I'm gonna reply to you, man. It's good, it's good. What's been going on, brother? Man, I'm floating, dog. Hey. I like to hear that. I'm floating, bro. I like to hear that. It's good, it's good. What's been going on, brother? Man, so much. First of all, I want to say thank you to you all.

There's a lot of amazing things. There are a lot of things that are changing in my life. I'm making a whole lot of money. You been doing that? No, it's different now. I like to hear that. I ain't gonna lie to you, though. You know what I'm talking about.

I just shook your pockets down. You know what I'm talking about. 400, shook your pockets down. You know what I'm talking about. 400,000 fell out this man's pocket, man. Here y'all, that's just change. That's just change. No, man, but the thing is, man, I wanted to thank y'all because a lot of times we invest our time and you all have built a certain crowd

and a certain rapport with people. And to give it to me, you know, there was a conversation that me and Charlamagne had off camera. I called him before the first time I came to the show and I was like, bro, I'm really serious about the liberation of my black people, of black people, man, and it means a lot to me. And we had a very, very in-depth conversation.

You remember that conversation? And like, our relationship has grown since then. Bro, I was even talking about you introducing me to your family, bro. You remember we had dinner, you brought your family so I can meet him, that kind of stuff matters to me, man. And, you know, a lot of rappers don't get the opportunity to grow.

It was funny, BET said something to me when 106 and Park was still on TV. They said, David Banner, you are one of the few or only artists that talks about anything of substance. They said, the ratings might not go up. They said, but they don't drop. We have never seen that. So for you all to give me the opportunity to grow

and turn into this thing, because this is sort of sad, but Prince died. And as much as that hurts me it did open up the opportunity for me to be the sexiest motherfucker on this planet and it has happened and the Breakfast Club has allowed me to slide into that place Don't you start wearing the Mass IGs now. Don't you start now. Was this the energy homegirl felt on that NAACP red carpet? That was the sexiest ever energy?

You tell us Lauren. I mean. I'm not gonna say no name but one of our producers they had just randomly yelled out something you like Mississippi in the building yeah well she said in the building that could be literal no they said yeah yeah you know I'm saying let me say let me tell you something about that. I do want to clear this up though, is that people think that I'm joking about my admiration for black women. I'm dead serious. And what some people are uncomfortable with, they're not used to a black man giving admiration

and I don't want anything from you. Just because I think that you're beautiful, just because I speak about how I feel about the black woman in general I don't want anything from you but but but to let you know how I feel and sometimes we don't believe in ourselves and it's hard to really think that there is a man that really really feels that way without it having some type of game connected to it because bro I'll say this and nobody ever noticed it since I've been in college, SGA president at Southern University, I have consistently, for the most

part, outside of my actual art, been the same man. Consistently, I have never sold a lot of people out. I've never done anything flawed. And it's like, you know, when we do something, they either try to make a joke of it or poke. You know, when I came out and say, I'm ready to be married, you know, when we do something, they either try to make a joke of it or poke, you know? When I came out and say, I'm ready to be married, you know, people found a way to poke at that. I thought you said, you know, not having any diseases,

not whooping on nobody, raping nobody, not having 4,000 kids. I thought that was amazing and awesome. You know, so for me, I am again grateful. I do wanna tell you something though. Mm-hmm. Bro, you did something that you will forever have an ally. I spent close to a million dollars on the presentation

of the guide box. I told black people about streaming. Now everybody's coming back saying that me, Snoop, Prince, TI was right when we told folks about how stupid the concept Now everybody's coming back saying that me, Snoop, Prince, T.I. was right when we told folks about how stupid the concept of streaming was, right? Everybody ran towards that. One of the reasons why the Godbox wasn't

that successful at the time, because I wouldn't let them stream it, because I had just gotten to the point where I got $9 an album. Imagine that, G. You go from having dollars and cents to micro pennies, things that you can't even calculate. And bro, you stood up in front of the world and told people that you believe that The God Box was one of the best hip hop albums of all times bro,

and you didn't have to do that. It was though. But still, you know, and I know how much you fight it. Cause I see what you've done for me, Mike, everybody you get the opportunity to you being from the South, you get it. You put us in positions that we normally are not in bro. And what people didn't understand is every time that I do hip hop, every time that I do what people say that we should do, I lose money. When I stay, you know, doing the stuff that America wants young black men or black men

to do in general, I stay getting bread. But you got to think about Crooked Lettuce, Mid-Ninth Wonder's album, Death of a Pop Star, The God Box, bro, I just spit almost two million dollars of my own money bringing what we call real hip-hop out and people just talk about it and bro you put your career on the line and I will never ever ever and usually we only hear the negative shit dawg but as a man bro I was paying my own money. Billboards everything that you've seen for David Banner for the last 15 years, that's my bread. That's why you might see me out in the streets

picking up flyers. No, I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. You might spend money on this. That's my money, you feel me? So I'd like to thank y'all as a whole and I appreciate it. Oh, love, you said something just now that I stress all the time.

If you want black people to do a certain thing when they do it, you got to support it. And you know, these Lamborghinis and Ferraris You talked about it I did see people getting on you about this why now at the age of 50 Do you think you ready to settle down? All right peep this now this let me pull off my glasses for this So we can we can did this right now. All right. So people talk about love languages, right? I told a young lady this and it shocked her. I said, what are your main love languages?

What do you see in one out of a man? She said, I want him to be successful and I want him to spend time. How? How? I'm a fucking activist, a top tier producer, a top tier rapper, actor. I do more than most people do in their one career in my five or four or five careers. When do I have time? If you want me to be successful, when in the fuck do I have time?

People didn't notice my 10 year run. Think about this dude, when I wasn't putting out like a pimp, I was producing Wayne or Chris Brown or Maroon 5 or Quincy Jones. Quincy Jones? I did that. Okay. Me and Warren Campbell. Yep.

Or, I was acting, people forget Black Snake Mone. It's funny they think that I'm just starting this. I've been, I hadn't done 38 films or television shows, right? One of the top people on the speaking circuit, right? When do I have time? So then if I were to get a wife, right? She'll be at home. I'll be an absent provider.

And then people will talk about I didn't raise my kids or didn't have time With my wife we have to choose what it is. We want to do and then I'm successful at it. I won So and then the other thing that I always wonder is why do grown people care about can I curse? Yeah, I just I try you know, because I go over there sometimes. Who I'm fucking? I'm grown. And then they don't say nothing about them white folks who had wives and kids, 38,000 children.

That's right. We don't say that, bro. I did what people said was the honorable thing to do. So we keep thinking that we winning. Look at the shit that we say about good people. You make me not wanna fuck with you no more. You tell kids what to do and what the right thing to do and then they do the right thing and you still talk shit?

That's why I tell these rappers, do what the fuck you wanna do. Because people are gonna criticize you regardless of what you do, no matter how good you are. Bro, you ain't never heard nothing negative besides me getting in a fight with them cops. That's the only thing. And when that happened, I was protecting black people. So we act like we're winning. We act like we got all of these leaders. And then when you do

have the people that do the right thing, that's how you do them? There was this documentary last night that I went to, Being First on the Call Sheet. And I was watching there was this documentary last night that I went to, being first on the call sheet. Yep, right. And I was watching Denzel's portrayal of Malcolm X, right? And it hit me, bro, cause I was thinking about like how many Malcoms, you know, how many Betty Shabazzes we have in current time.

And we always talk about Marcus Garvey and Martin Luther King, but there's people that I like them to this day. I'll give you a great example. As much as people revere Killer Mike, you and I know how long Killer Mike has been doing this. We know that most black people don't even know his real group. They don't even really know why he's popular. And so the fact that he decides to come back to our community is a blessing because he probably shouldn't because of the way that we treated him. I was producing, I produced Mike on what his first mixtape or the second mixtape, right?

So I watched how hard he worked and he had to go to another community. And bro, that's happening to me now. Like I had one of my mentors, bro, he told me, he said, Benham, you always get in a position of power, and then you throw it all away for your people. And then you have to go somewhere else and build it all the way back up to come back and give it back again. And people are not really being reciprocal.

I do what I do by the grace of God. And I do what I do because I truly, truly love my people, but what I am not is stupid. So to answer your question really quickly is that I have a library, an extensive library, and I write in the pages of my books to my unborn children. I tell them right now, I love you,

and I don't even know you. I love you so much that I couldn't pick my mother and father, you couldn't pick your mother and father, but I can pick yours. So I will make sure that I do that with honor. I will make sure that I will take my time, because right now the only thing that I'm focused on, bro, you know where we from. That's right.

Dog, I'm from Mississippi. There's no way in the fuck I'm supposed to be here. I bet time. So the thing, if you notice, man and not all of us in here are successful in a way that most people are not. Every story that you read of substance whether it's in the Quran or the Bible or the Torah is really about what you are willing to sacrifice. I wanted seven children. I wanted a few rappers, I want to be married. But usually, if you want something that bad, you have to sacrifice that other thing that you wanted the most.

But the cool thing is when I do find her, she don't have to want for shit. My kids won't have to. I'll be able to go to their football games. I'll be able to take years out to make sure that they all right. So I just hate what people say because I love black folks so much

and I can't act like it don't bother me envy it does you know why I was gonna ask you did the marriage conversation bother you because it's kind of backwards for people to be upset that when you're accomplishing you can devote that time they're like bro so you don't rent like they made it almost like a they made it not almost they made it a negative thing to say I'm ready now because I can devote the time energy did how did that make you feel and I'm doing superhero movies how you gonna be out here you fit you fit you fit y'all know that don't work with my job you fucking with my money why are you doing that cuz I look

sweetheart do me a favor I know you're used to gazing at mortals, close your eyes on them. Open them, about the closest you're gonna get to God. That happened. Yeah. So in saying that, I'm feeling the carpet vibes, I get it. No, no, no, it's not carpet, it's the energy. Stop, baby. But I think with you, people are so used to people

saying things for clickbait or whatever, which hasn't ever been you, I don't know how people confuse that, because I feel the energy, you mean what you're saying. But that's what I'm saying since I've been in college at Southern I've stood for the same thing that's right you've never seen no flow in me I'm not saying that I won't make a mistake you don't you don't speak enough I want I want I want man I've always wanted man to be

out there more what the reason why is cuz they just killed my ass like like the real truth is and I'm in Charlamagne I know you understand this because we have a personal relationship. Bro now ain't the time to be talking. We are at war. And I didn't come here for that. I'm gonna stay on family business. Just so y'all know. But we are at literal war. You can't name an outwardly strong vocal black man in the last three years and I've been very sick. man in the last three years and I've been very sick. That was the reason why I took time off. I had gotten sick. I think God set me down, bro. Because if I would have been the banner that y'all know and love, that would have killed me. I'm for sure. I mean, we know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, tell pro really exists that you can go and get it in the files. The United States government will send it to you what they did to us. So we think that those people and those things don't exist. She is stronger now. I'm obsessed with social media.

And so love, what I'll tell you is to get that from the people that you fight for and love, do you know how bad that hurts? Go and look at the last picture that you seen a pop. Look at that look in his eyes. Look at Malcolm X, his last picture. Look at Martin. They got this look like, damn. That's what we get from us.

I expect that from them, but to get it from the people that you care about, you fight for, and that you really, really, because I could be in much better places if I would shut my motherfucking mouth. But it's hard for me to be in this position of if I would shut my motherfucking mouth. But it's hard for me to be in this position of power and not speak for my people, not stand for my people. But what I'm not going to be no more is broke. I'm putting me first, before I do anything.

So the reason why I don't talk more, bro, is because I've talked about the same thing for the last 15 years and we haven't done anything. If you really think about it, whether it's Elijah Muhammad, whether it's Malcolm, for the most part, get your own shit, shop with your own people, believe and love yourself, grow your own food. It's not the hate of white people. It's not, because that's something that I haven't said. I wasn't gonna say it, but I will say it.

So y'all have something exclusively for you all. Love and exclusive. I honestly don't even hate or have a problem with white folks no more. And I'll tell you why. I learned that there's a finite amount of energy in the universe, right? And so, whatever you spend your energy on,

you only have so much, right? So if I only have 100% and most of my life is spent on talking about how only have so much, right? So if I only have a hundred percent and most of my life is spent on talking about how they have oppressed us, what they've done to us, then 50% of your energy is gone. That could be used for attraction, love and money and knowledge and information. What I know now is I know what they've done to us. So it's like if they if you go and kiss a rattlesnake would you be mad that that rattlesnake bit you in the mouth? No, it's a rattlesnake. Because you know better. So if you know historically what they have done to you why would you keep going over there? It's stupid, right? So what

I do now is I understand who and what I am dealing with. And now I concentrate on love and attraction and building what I wanna see for my people. Because the powerful thing about, I always talk about this, the powerful thing about the Black Panthers, people thought it was the Black Fist and the Afros, it wasn't, it was food. That's right, breakfast for a man.

They took care of people's children. And then on top of that, I look awesome. I remember we were speaking. Wait do you feel like the pushback came mostly from women or men on the marriage conversation? I never heard anything from men. I actually have to say that something happened recently that I don't want to talk about and black men stood up for me. They really really stood up for me. Like my family called me me and said, man, go look in the comments, bro. Like, black men are saying, like, he the one that always stands up.

He was the one that was at Katrina. He was the one that when this happened and that, why are we doing this to him? You know? And what I'll say about the black woman is that my resurgence is because of the black woman and their love and admiration for me. And usually it's just one person.

See, we don't read the comments. T-Pain taught me this, like, and that's somebody that I have love and admiration for. He is one of the premier people in our culture and we should treat him better. I just wanna say that. Shout out to Ali Siddique too, one of my favorite comedians in the whole wide planet, bro.

That's my homie. That we should just make sure that we do better with treating each other and respecting each other. And the black woman has done that for me. It's just a lot of loud negative voices. It's one or two people. And what I will say is, you know, black women will tell somebody ass up

about their David Banner. And I just have to find a way to group those people together. And I've started a company called a Banner Vision, my movie company, we're about to do sci-fi movies, and I'm really, really excited about it. And it's funny because I wanna do a movie that's similar to Love Jones.

And people would say, David Banner, I thought you were doing sci-fi. I said, well, isn't black love in the media right now? Science fiction? Because we damn sure don't see it. That's my wife's favorite movie. Love Jones in Color Purple. And I really wanna do it with Jill Scott.

Ooh. Because I want a different body type. I want a different bit of a color purple. And I really wanna do it with Jill Scott. Ooh. Cause like I want a different body type. I want a different type of sexy. Jill Scott is sexy in a way that. Beautiful. Oh my God. Just like. She's all aura.

And it's funny, we just talked about Mississippi and Philly before we came on. That is true. Like she from Philly, but she got that Mississippi. Oh. And you know, just on the low,

I should see if she want me to talk about it too late. I'm actually helping her with her album right now. That's all I can say right now. Jill Scott, and it has been one of the most eye opening. Cause I only really produce, you know what I'm saying, people that I love or care for, or like young artists that I really believe in. Music is taking a lot away from my spirit.

So why? Good or bad? It's the business of it. And because we have gone into streaming, it's forcing the more talented people out. Because as a businessman, it don't make no sense for me to spend all the money that I spend. Most people don't spend money on music watch this I want you to really think about this this is crazy hold on ready all right here we go they have taken

away American society and we have allowed them to do this have taken away any hustle that we can do and becoming a millionaire or a billionaire in a lifetime I'll talk about that all the time, especially when you're black. Music? Right? They tried to take away movies, but they were still making a lot of money off of that. So they didn't talk. Because think about this.

As much as they went to war about movies, they had just done the same thing to music. They had just taken all of the money. They took the foundation. They put AI on top of it. They were trying to do the same thing to music, I mean, movies, and white folks are like, nah, we still making a lot of money,

y'all can't do that to us yet. Dope. And I'm not saying to sell dope, but anything that we could do to make money and catch up with them, they have taken it away from us and we run right behind them and let them do it every time. Family Business, New Orleans is on BET+, it's very important for you to watch.

My name is David Vanna. You know, I forgot what we was talking about that one time, but you say this constantly, and I'm paraphrasing. If you want me to be me, you gotta support me. Shailer, man, you hit me, bro, you hit me with that one, because I actually feel that with my own team. It's like I'm a force to be dealt with, bro. I have that same energy of a Muhammad Ali.

Like I wanna be free. I don't wanna start stuff with people, but I wanna be able to speak freely. And the only way that I can speak freely is either I got a lot of bread or the people are really, really behind me. The real truth, and we wanna admit this, bro, you know, folks will, really behind me. The real truth, and we want to admit this, bro, you know, folks will walk away from me.

Bro, when I was sick and you knew about it, bro, then nobody come see me. I was up in the North Georgia mountains by myself, and people left me up there, and I think God allowed me to be in that valley to really see that not even what you perceive as being positive is before God. The movement ain't before God.

Helping black people ain't before God. So let me sit you out here and show you what this feel like alone. And the crazy thing, y'all, they still didn't find out what was wrong with me. Like I got hold of my blood pressure, my cholesterol, all of those things, sleep apnea, all of those things, and they still don't know.

So God was like, okay, put something before me again. So I'm putting nothing before me. And now, and I say this especially to you all, love, please listen to me, I'm very serious about this. I'm listening. What I found out in my valley is people treat you exactly how you treat yourself. That's right.

I was being a martyr, so all black people brought me was death. My son got killed, this happened. The police did this. When I became about opulence, now people bring me money. If people know, like when Erykah Badu walk in the room, I don't care who it is. It can be the niggas nigger from niggadum. He stand up straight. Cause she treats herself. She has a standard for herself. Whether it's the way that she eats,

whether it's the way that she thinks. I saw Erica do something that was so powerful one time. She, I believe she pulled the vibration. She did the vibrations to get all the negative energy. Whoever came before her, let me clear out the whole stadium. She played positive vibrations, high level vibrations. She said, let me clear this shit out before I get started. And so like, man, for me-

You see, we got her overlooking the room right there in the middle in the center. Yeah. Right there. Yeah. Yeah. And y'all get ready, man. Y'all might as well go ahead and give me a whole section on the ball. I'm about to tell your motherfucking mouth out.

Watch. When y'all see what's under here, when I decide to show my abs and my chest, I'm gonna come up here just for that. It ain't gonna be for nothing else. You can see. You want to peek? I mean sure, if you want to show us. Are you sure? You know it was funny when you was like, I want you to listen to this love. Loris was like, I'm listening. I mean, I'm listening. I just straightened up, I'm listening to this. I mean, I'm listening to this. I mean, I'm listening to this. I just straighten up.

I'm listening. Oh. Oh. I want you to expound on this too. You said, I saw you in an interview. You said, black people don't take care of our OGs. So you don't want to be an OG in the black community because we don't take care of our elders.

We don't take care of our leaders. Yeah. I tend to agree with you, my brother. Yeah. But you can't help it if you're an OG. You're gonna be that regardless. I saw that and said, well, what else you gonna be? Cause you there for a lot of people.

Well, the thing is, is that it's cool, but I'm telling you that I don't want it so you can get that energy to somebody else. Don't give me my flowers and keep your fucking flowers. I can't spend and eat flowers. I want your money and your attention. I want the same thing you give white people. Give me your money and attention. If you're not giving me that, I'm not an OG. I said this in that same interview. I was debating one time. I said, do you all, do black people think I'm the

antithesis of Trump? And they said, yes, I do. The opposite, right? Okay. Well, then that means I should have as much money from the black community as Trump gets from the white community, if you love me that way. But we say one thing and do the other. Oh, we want positive music, but you don't pay for positive music. Oh, we want a leader, but you don't take care of your leaders. And that same clip, it was crazy. I don't know if you saw this, it went sort of viral. They put that part where they said, I don't want to be an OG, I want to be an OG because

you don't take care of your elders. Then they cut to, I believe, Malcolm X's daughter, and somebody asked her, do you think that the black community took care of your family? And she said, I don't believe so. So why would I wanna be some, why would our kids wanna be a king when we allowed the other one to get killed?

Kids don't, that's one of the reasons why I'm so fly. That's one of the reasons why I'm whipping the Ferraris and I'm whipping the Lamborghinis on purpose because when kids usually see somebody conscious, they broke. I don't wanna fucking be broke. Why? We don't have to, we give everybody else

our disposable money. Even if every black person gave, this is something I'm gonna try me and you we're gonna talk about this think about how powerful this show is right and I say here go my cash out my name is David Banner I want to shoot a seven million dollar movie let's raise the money right now on the Breakfast Club right now here go my cash app I ain't fucking got to go through nobody else I'm going to the fucking people. That's true power

But are we willing to really do that? Because most of it comes from self hate. I don't believe that I'm shit. So how dare David Banner call himself a god How dare David better look that fucking good that you know I'm saying my wife and my daughter and all the women around me really want to have as much sex with him as they possibly can but I don't know if it's possible. The way you just looked at me I was like what is happening right now? I'm not sweating I just it was the intentional look. It was a piercing look. I'm like you know what you're doing. But doesn't that feel good though seriously? Yeah it's very intentional thinking about it

It's intentional and what I what I would want to do. Maybe I am sweating you are so it's tight It's bad. I think I'm glowing but that's all another conversation. Okay another no, she's single too. She went to her HBC you she's Amy can we Let's go back. Which HBCU you went to? Why you taking your jacket off? She ain't ready. Why you giggling? She ain't ready. Why you giggling? She's a young girl, man. She went to Delaware State. She went to Delaware State. She got a degree.

She's very bright, has her own. She already invested in real estate, got a couple of properties. Enjoy yourself. You just gonna make a hat and put a knot on her. Oh, it smells great. That's why I did that. So listen, I'm being very honest with you.

She is very intelligent. She's a go-getter. It relax. I'm going to tell you she's not a square. She party. She get dressed. So I put cologne here, put cologne here, put cologne here and here. So that when somebody hugs me, that it can go, they put their nose right there.

Yeah, smell it. You know what I'm saying? When I shake somebody's hand, I learned this when I was at Southern in business class that everybody has a 4.0. So at the time that's when they put resumes on paper. Sometimes the quality of the paper is the difference between you getting that job or not.

I remember my ex-girlfriend told me, she said, "'You know why I called you back?' I said, "'Why?' She said, "'Cause I smelled your black ass for the rest of the night. I couldn't out, I took baths and I could not wipe your scent off of me.'" Man, like a pimple's more than a record, huh?

There you go. I understand about all the songs right now. Let that man cook! Let that man cook! Wait, what is this scent? Don't worry about it. It's a good scent. Actually, I combine scents now because I don't want to smell like anybody else.

Okay. So depending on where I go and what time of day it is, like one of the things that y'all and I really need y'all to watch this. I'm going to bring masculinity. Don't, you might wave the scent away. Stop. Don't get my back. I'm going to bring masculinity back to high fashion.

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Felt that spirit when somebody was about to get their fucking head buzzed? Cadillacs on 22s, calm your black ass down again. some shit like that you know I'm saying and I believe great DJs do the same thing be honest with me bro you can feel it yeah of course you can feel right before about to get pregnant absolutely right before they're about to get their head bust absolutely and if you are a responsible person right before a motherfucker about to get cut mm-hmm you'll move to something else if you care. To the ladies. Right. Absolutely.

Do you feel like your intention and your commitment to black people in the black community, who you keep seeing the love waivers? I know you dealt with mental health things and you talked about no one's immune to mental health issues. Do you feel like you want to serve a community that you never get to that goal post? Do you feel like that fucks with you?

That fucks with the mental health? Do me a favor. Ask the question for me in one sentence so I can give you the answer in the proper way. Do you feel like your love and commitment to the black community affects your mental health? Hell yeah! Affects my money, affects my relationships. I was, I fell in love once with a woman that wasn't a hundred percent black, but she didn't look black. And Dr. Umar would not have approved. But I'm not, that part I don't worry about because we live our lives for other people. Only thing I give a fuck about is being happy. You know what I'm saying? We live our lives for other people. Only thing I give a fuck about is being happy. You know what I'm saying?

We live our lives for outside people, but you know. And to be honest with you, I probably should have stayed with her. I would have been a lot happier. But I cared too much about the perception of what my people thought, and I shouldn't have done that. I should have just did what was best for me. Is that what taught you that lesson?

That not care about what people think so much? Well, that and the fact that, you know, like after Katrina, as much work as I did, people left me alone. I was almost broke. You know, people didn't realize like I had played during that time. I had the number one rap single

and I never go back and look. I never ever promoted my album. Cause one thing I didn't to do is ever make people, I didn't ever want people to think that I was using the movement to make money. So I never cross-collateralized when I talked about, if I came to talk about the people, I talked about the people.

If I came to get money, I came to get money. And what I even found out is a lot of my rapper friends would push me up there so I could do it and lose my career and they wouldn't got money. You know what I even found out is a lot of my rapper friends would push me up there so I could do it and lose my career and they wouldn't got money. You know what I'm saying? How hurtful was that? Because I heard you mentioned money a lot, right? And you sacrificed a lot of money.

About $12 million, I counted it. And you feel like people didn't come and help you. People didn't come and protect you like they should have. Because I hear it in your voice so much, like you feel like you sacrificed this, but at one point it seemed like damn, I had to struggle, I was fucked up and nobody helped me. Is that what I'm hearing from David, man? Not no more, cause God got me in a way.

Not no more, but before. God got me in a way and all of those pain is nothing but to push you in the right direction, that's all it is. And again, my blessings don't come from man, they come through man, but they come from God. So like, yeah, it hurt me because even think about this. I just learned this concept, watch this. When we bless somebody, right?

Our ego leads us to want to get that blessing back from them, specifically from them. But if they had the power to do that, they wouldn't have needed your blessings in the first fucking place. So the thing is, I don't even want my blessings back from the people that I get it from, because it blocks God's ability to give it to me.

So like, I'll give you a great example. They could have gave me the money back, but there's not too many artists that comes from the generation that I come from that would even garner the respect of your fans for me to be on this fucking platform. Think about my homies that came up that sold so many millions of records more than I did.

They can't even come up here, even if you wanted them to come. God blessed me to actually even still be here. So all of those things, think about that. When I did what I did for Katrina, that made me bigger than a rapper. It may have not manifested in money, but it did manifest in grace and protection.

When I lived, there's a certain city that I lived in, that when I left that city, I realized the type of motherfuckers that I was around, and I didn't know they was that level of, they was real killers. And they kept me away from all of that because they respected what I did as a man. You can't buy that shit.

You can't get honor, bro. You can't get respect, bro. That's what I love so much about Nipsey. As much as he was about his money, Honor, you knew him. Honor was first, bro. Great brother. Honor was first. So as much as envy as it did hurt me,

look at the man that I am right now. I wouldn't have been who I am right now. Like, my Asian naturopathic healer, he told me something. He said, your ability to love is in direct proportion to how much pain you have experienced. So the deeper and the more you've been hurt,

the more capacity you have to love. But our ego makes us not wanna love because we have been hurt. But actually that's like us saying, I don't want my arms to hurt while I'm doing this extra set. No, we gotta make it has to hurt. And envy, if they knew how to treat themselves,

then nine times out of 10, they would know how to treat me. And if they knew how to treat me, they wouldn't need us. You preaching my brother. That's why I always say, I don't judge anybody based off how they, God's not gonna judge me based off how other people treat me. I don't judge anybody based off how they, God's not gonna judge me based off how other people treat me.

He's gonna judge me based off how I treat people. That's the bar. That's it. Who was leading your team and stuff around the time when you were doing all the Katrina stuff? Cause you didn't have people in your ear like you should be promoting the music. And like, what was your pushback to them at that time?

Well, no, I mean, I am such, this is the crazy thing about me is that people are afraid of me. And I didn't know how afraid people were of me. Because the thing is, bro, if I hadn't put my hand around your neck, why are you worried about it? You know, and so I think a lot of people

were afraid to tell me a lot of things. And I always say that, let me know, just tell me. I'm a big old bear, but if you say it to me and I know that it's good, like, we done had a couple of calls, well we done talked about it, hey bro, you might not need to do this. I remember I was going on CNN,

and a friend of mine who works at Apple, he called me and I told him what I was about to say on CNN, if I woulda said what I said, I woulda probably had the biggest standing ovation in history from black people, but it would have been the last time I would have been on public TV. Yeah, I'd have been done.

And he said, Banner, we need you for the long run. We don't need you for short term. So as much as you wanna get on there and say it, you done if you do it. So- And you've always been like that. You've always been the person that say, man, y'all, we talking too fucking much. And I'm always been like that. You've always been the person who say, man, y'all we talking too fucking much.

Stop talking so fucking much. Let's build schools. Let's shoot the movie. Like that's where I'm at now. You know, and it's funny, CeeLo wrote a song and he put my name in it. Cause I told CeeLo, CeeLo called me one time, like Ben, I'm ready to get back on the front line.

Shit, better stay your ass in Vegas and get that damn bread. You can send some money to the front line. But like, and he, that was the name of the song, the goody moss off front line, I'm like, shit, you better stay your ass in Vegas and get that damn bread. You can send some money to the front line. But like, and that was the name of the song, the goodie myself front line. Dammit Barry told me, you know what I'm saying, I told him like, bro, no, we the only people that put our generals on the front line.

I don't know nobody in the army, you can't even speak to a general. You know what I'm saying? So for me love, to be honest with you, I had a great team and I had great people, but I'm so driven sometimes that people are afraid to just tell me to sit my ass down somewhere. And too, a lot of that came from fear. I'm grown enough and been through enough therapy now to say that the David Banner that I am now, I would beat the living shit out of the old David Banner.

If I was David Banner that I am now, I would beat the living shit out of the old David Banner. Because if you think about a kung fu master or a martial arts master, you barely ever see them mad. What the fuck they gotta get mad for? Being angry is ignorance. Because if I know how to snap your neck, I can snap your fucking neck and it's over with. Keep it moving.

You're not talking a whole bunch of shit. You know, I wanna talk, you talk about therapy. You know, I love therapy. I love about therapy, you know, I love therapy, I love just being on a journey of healing. And I saw you say you had to overcome some mental health issues, and physically you've always pretty much kept yourself together.

What made you realize you had to get it together mentally and emotionally? Bro, this last time I went through it, dog, it was the first time in my life that I thought that I may not come out of it. Mm-hmm Like I've been through a lot dog People don't understand about People these kids say they want to be famous but imagine coming from the streets and where we from like we don't

We don't allow people in. Like y'all know this, I didn't smile the first fucking two years of my career. The Mississippi the album days, fuck you, we don't smile where we from. Y'all gotta tell you this, really happened to me. So I'm 10 years old, I walk in the house, I'm playful, my dad said come here. He said what the fuck you smiling for? I said, huh? He said, I pay all the bills and I ain't happy. What the fuck you happy for?

And I don't think I smiled again until I was 21. Jesus. Like Jackson, Mississippi was the murder capital of the United States when I was growing up. It's just that we was in the South so we didn't get the sexy looks and that ain't a thing to be proud of. But it took me a while to understand

that my happiness is my freedom. Like that's the reason why I correct people now. I'm not gonna let nobody around me who not happy. I don't want people around me that's not getting it, that don't have the same type of draw because you have energy vampires. But bro, what I realized is that if I didn't get on top of it, there's a book that I read

that they said that your mind is like a garden, but the weeds, just like a garden, grow faster than the fruit. So every day I gotta put a new thought in my head. I have to read something. I have to stay on it because it's just so much negativity. Man, and then I realized that I didn't like myself. You know, I was too hard on myself.

I didn't give myself grace. And this dude told me one time, he said, God is forgiving you, why haven't you forgiven yourself? So I forgave myself for the things that I did, man. And I really love no lie. I started loving me. This may sound strange, but I date myself now. I date myself, I take care of myself. That was the reason why I went and bought the cars

and all that kind of stuff. Think about all the money that I made and I ain't had shit. Everybody else that didn't work a quarter of how hard I worked had all this shit. My third in command had more cars and shit than I did. Not that it's about cars, but I just realized that I was doing for everybody else and not me.

Government was coming. So once I started loving myself Charlamagne and I realized that if I didn't get control of it, that I would be in a place forever. Because think about this, bro. You I would be in a place forever. Because think about this, bro. You can even be in a jail cell. You can be at war, but know that you maybe could get home. If you hate yourself and your mind is the prison,

bro, that's really hell. I gotta get up out that motherfucker. And I'm not playing with nobody. I don't care if it's my mother, my cousin, anybody who fucks with my mental health or my well-being. I gotta get at you. What led you to therapy? My mentor, David Moody.

He owns one of the most successful black construction companies in the United States. And I had a mentor, it was actually a woman, and she came to me one day and she was like, I can't do nothing with you no more. And I was like, what? And she said, you need a black man in your life. And so this right after my dad died,

she introduced me to Mr. Moody and it was crazy. We went and ate at a steak spot in Atlanta, and LL Cool J was in there. And so Mr. Moody was it was crazy. We went and ate at a steak spot in Atlanta. LL Cool J was in there. So Mr. Moody was like, I love LL Cool J. And I was like, let me go get LL, get him an autograph. Like I know LL and I know LL for shit. And I walked out and said, what's up LL?

Hoping that he knew me. And he was like, BAM! And I was like, yes! I'm like, dog, would you come take a picture for me? He took the picture and then Mr. Moody became my mentor and he was really open to me. And it's funny, I was talking to my publicity team and this is something that I wanna say

and y'all tell me if it's the same with y'all. I didn't talk to my homeboys about the shit that was going on with me. Like I just recently had a conversation with my friends about anxiety. I'm like, dude, I've been in the streets, tough, tough. Why the fuck am I having anxiety about shit that's not life threatening?

Been dealing with it my whole life. It made me feel soft. I'm like, what the fuck am I tripping for? I was on a really big show recently and had a fucking anxiety attack. Me, dog, I'm like equalizing. I can't tell y'all. I can't tell y'all.

They gonna be looking for it, They gonna be looking for it. Let me tell you, no. But I had a straight out fucking anxiety attack, but then I realized how important it was for me to have a better team. Because I was doing too much shit, bro. You know, and I wasn't talking to my friends. And Mr. Moody said, they're not your friends

if you can't talk to them. Because in the streets, said Jackson, you don't trust nobody. I don't care who it is. So I had always been, I had always been taught to not talk about it and just hold it all in. And y'all, this is very personal.

My cortisol levels was so high that it was eating my body up. Like that's how stressed I was, man. And it was killing me. And so Mr. Moody said, just talk to your friend. And I called up my five tightest homeboys and it was crazy cause it was like, they were waiting on me to talk.

I was like, my toughest homeboy, one of my toughest homeboys, he from Tulsa, Oklahoma. I called him. I was like, AB, bro, have you ever had an anxiety attack? He was like, fuck yeah. And like now we talk and it's crazy cause everybody trip, I be on the phone with my homeboy, I love you dog, I love you with all my heart,

bro I'ma talk to you later cause we don't know if they gonna live. You know what I'm saying bro? So I had to do it man and because I'm, you know, outwardly tougher than most people, I can say stuff to these children that most people are scared to say. Like I can say I had an anxiety attack.

That won't stop me from choking you. You know what I'm saying? That won't stop me from putting these legal firearms. Firearms? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. But no man, I'm grateful to God though. Cause think about it. That now draws us closer.

I'll tell y'all this, this happened to me. It was like either the bass player or the guitar player from Earth, Wind & Fire. He said he changed his religion because of the God Box. That album. So I thought about it. With so much music being out,

back in the day we remember what was number eight on Michael Jackson's album. Now with so much music we don't. But think about it. If you are the person that helps someone to become conscious, they'll never forget you for the rest of their life. Bro, you helping me with that album, bro?

I will never, ever forget you for what you said, bro. This man got on TV when you and Joe Buttons was rating the albums and you put the Godbox on there and they took it off because Joe Buttons had never listened to it. And I wouldn't confronted him about it. I'm like dog, like I'm independent, that look what I have, but I will never ever

forget you for that. So imagine if I'm the man that allows someone to become conscious or you the person that teaches someone to tie their shoe or someone who teaches somebody how to ride a bike, that transcends all of that. So for me to stand up as a man and say, yeah, y'all, I'm all of these things,

but I'm also not perfect. I don't know if y'all saw that clip. That clip was super viral. This young lady asked, she said, David Banner, you got it sewed together. And I stopped and I said, no, baby, I'm a wreck. She was like, no, she couldn't believe it. She was like, no. I was like, yeah, baby. And I said, no baby, I'm a wreck. She was like, no, she couldn't believe it. She was like, no.

I was like, yeah baby. And I'm only telling you that I'm a wreck so that whenever you become a wreck, you know that you can still get up, put on some clothes and keep it moving every day. So when y'all see this, when y'all see me vibrating, when y'all see me talking this shit, it's because I am healed and I'm gonna do everything

that I possibly can to be a consummate example of what a man looks like in America. And I hope that I make y'all proud. And part of that healing is telling your story. Because you know, when I first started about dealing with anxiety and depression, I didn't know my father had been dealing

with it his whole life. And when I started telling my story back in like 2018, my father told me that he was going to therapy two and three times a week, that he tried to commit suicide, that he was on 10 to 12 different medications but you know when you from the south yeah they give you what they call crazy pills man take these pills take these pills but imagine if he would have told me that when I was younger yeah I would have known exactly what I was dealing

with so that's why you telling your story is so powerful yeah it is and family business on BET plus I want to ask you one more question before you go what's more treacherous the Family business on BET+. Family business. Family now. Family. Family now. I wanna ask you one more question before you go. What's more treacherous, the music industry, Hollywood or the streets? I think it's definitely not the streets. I think the streets, you know what it is.

It's clear. It's clear. And that's what I, I tell people this all the time. My preference is Mississippi white people. And they say why? If a Mississippi white person loves you, they will die for you. If a Mississippi person doesn't, white person doesn't like you, they'll try to kill you. Unlike you living up here next to a white person and working with them every day and

they smiling in your face and then it's time for you to retire and your pension gone. The industry. And they've been smiling in your face all the time. At least I know what it is. You know? And I, the streets, and it's so funny, man,

I fell into believing that this construct that we call the music industry and the movie industry, that it's any different. It's no different. It's oppressive. It's built for you to fail. And that's one of the reasons why a lot of people

get mad at me, because as a producer, think about it. I probably lost 20, 30 million. I'm one of the top producers, and I never put out an artist. And the reason why I never put out artists is because I care about human beings, and I know the game is about throwing 35 people, lives on the wall. And you have to become callous in order to do that.

That's the reason why hustlers do so so good and in the music industry because they've done so much on the streets that they've already become callous. So being callous in this shit is easy. You know what I had to do out in front of my grandma house in front of my fucking grandma house. I had to serve my fucking uncle. And you think I give a fuck about this music shit? That shit easy. I care about people.

If I fuck with you, I mean it. One of your friends that I whisper in your ear and tell you who it is, I had to tell him you might have to rethink our friendship. Because I'm serious. If I say I fuck with you, I mean it. So if you come in town, it ain't that you got to check in with me. But I want to see my friend. I'm serious, if I say I fuck with you, I mean it. So if you come in town, it ain't that you gotta check in with me, but I wanna see my friend. I'm excited, I really think we homies.

I don't throw that shit around, bro. So for me, I'll say at least you know what the streets are. It is what it is, you know what it is. It ain't personal, let's keep it moving. What I do like about the movies is that usually as an actor, if I step on set, my check there. And so it is what it is. I might not get much on the back end until I'm able to negotiate at that level, but I know this amount of money, I can run with this money and I'm gone. It ain't personal. You know what I'm saying?

money and I'm gone. It ain't personal. You know what I'm saying? But what I will say is that I plan on being one of the best actors who ever touch the screen. I'm very serious about black art. I really think, you know, as much as I love music, if people can't see it, people don't understand one of the reasons why the West Coast popped off the way that they did is because they had an hour and a half long video to go with the music. When Snoop and them came out, Dre and them came out, what else did they have? Menace to society. Boys in the hood.

So like they had all of that and we really didn't believe that it was that until we saw the movies and then we had the music oh shit for real because people could say what they want to they weren't smoking like that to Snoop came out till we saw it on the screen was like yo and if you think about the South we still haven't had that one movie that properly depicts the South. If you really think about the South, I always tell tell, I tell people this, they use us for cheap labor. Cause we still don't have our Will Smith.

We still don't have our Queen Latifah. We're very close to it. We still don't have our ice cube yet. And as much as we talk stuff until we can cut a check from where we stand, then it's still New York and LA. So like for me, that's what I want to do. I want to cut a check from where we stand then it's still New York and LA. So like for me that's what I want to do. I want to cut a check. I don't want to beg for DEI. I want to give you the job and we ain't got to worry about them because even in the strike y'all and I know they don't want me to talk about this but how dare

someone try to take away your whole livelihood, take away your likeness, show you that they want to cut everything, every tie that you have to sustainable lifelong generational wealth, they're gonna cut that away from you and then because they give you some scraps now we okay? Like when Tip and Ernestine boycotted Houston's in Atlanta, I still ain't been there. I still not going back. Once somebody show me what they really, really mean

and how they feel about me, I ain't never going back. Fuck you for life, forever, until you show me in your efforts over time that you have changed. So for me, y'all, like, when do we start identifying? And this is one thing that I want to say about the kids. This is what I love about the young revolutionaries. They don't talk about the man, the man. No.

Edward Jenkins, who lives at 156 Solid Street, and works at, yeah, let's go get that motherfucker. Let's talk about this board member. Let's specifically go to his fucking house. That's revolutionary. That's the shit that we should do. Family business, New Orleans. Let's get banned out of here.

Oh, yeah. Let's get banned out of here. Come on, say something about family business. Family business. I've seen it. You're great in it. Lila Rashaun, I love her, love the dynamic. But I wanted, because when I watched that,

and I know before you talked about loving acting so much it almost made you leave music, you're not thinking about doing that again, right? I just stepped away from music. I'm almost to the point financially, I'm very close. I want to get back to making music like when we made it in high school. I can put out music and it don't really matter.

I can just do it from a very pure place. I spend a lot. I still mix and master. I still pay artists. I still pay the bass players. So music is expensive to make and black people give their money to tech company. They don't give it to the artists.

That's so stupid to me. People who don't even care about music. This is not a shot at any one particular company. As a matter of fact, I'm not gonna say their name. I'm gonna be smarter. But this one particular company that we give all our money to, right? Music is the last thing that they care about

in their company. But we give the thing that means the most to us to a company that cares nothing about music, it's not even on their front page. Much less black artists, music in general, they just don't give a damn about. So you're gonna give your, like think about it. It's tech moguls, they don't even like music.

They wasn't cool, they don't give a shit. They really, really don't. And we give them all our money, our residual income, all of these things. And what they did that was really, really smart was they gave a lot of money to one Influential or two influential artists. It was one Pop young lady and it was one top rapper and we all followed them no matter if we were going to hell in that

but to answer your question answer your question directly I I love I love music and I love music, but it hurt me. And every time I go back to music, I'm serious, every time I go back to music is when I get depressed. Wow. The music industry or the music industry? Well, either way, because I'm gonna sell my music.

I'm too old to be doing shit and ain't making no bread. You know what I'm saying? So it's built that way. But to be honest with you bro every time I go back to music I start feeling that way again and I feel less free so I said this in an interview if God is constantly saying son every time you go over there you get hurt why the fuck you keep going over there so like you know you know bro like the God Box 2 is probably my best album,

even better than the first one. So many people jumped on Griselda bro, they whole clique jumped on the album for me bro. Shoot bro, like you name it, they on it. T.I.B., 2 Chainz, just everybody came through for me. Raheem, but I just feel like, man, like with the movies, like I told you on the West Coast, I can show people how I want them to think.

I wanna lead this interview with saying this. I think that black people look at freedom the same way they look at death. Death may be better. We don't know. But the fact that we don't know, we don't want to try it out. So it's the same thing with freedom. Until they know what freedom looks like, we got to show them what it looks like. Think about our iPhone. If

you look at a Star Wars, Star Trek, besides teleportation, all that shit we could do on our iPhone now. That's what sci-fi is. It's preparing us for a future. I said this man, it was a young black girl who came in crying uncontrollably. Her dad say, what's wrong? Why are you crying? She said, daddy are they gonna be any black folks in the future? He said, why? She said because I was watching the Jetsons and I didn't see any. So as much as we put out good music, if people don't know what that looks like, it don't matter. Banner Vision, I love y'all, I appreciate it.

Make sure that y'all go and stream and look at Family Business. You can look at all the episodes like we like to do. Even though y'all, we need y'all to watch it every week so we can have those elongated stats that we need. Because if you look at it in one sitting, then we're only going to get that credit for that day or for that week. But what I'll tell you is like put on Family Business New Orleans when you cleaning up and just let it stream all day.

Just do that for me when you cooking even if you don't watch it. Because I'll be honest with y'all. There's some black movies that come out, I'll pay for the ticket and then go watch Avengers I sneak in Avengers like I did back in the day. I'm just being honest with you I'm gonna get my bread between this and the guns you carrying in the club. You gotta stop telling on yourself And then they go watch something else Give me the bread what I Oh, give me the bread What I say, give me the brand of your attention. David Banner ladies and gentlemen. Fight night 2. Check the banner out on fight night.

Yeah, suck that. And the equalizer with Queen Latifah. I'm on that tonight. Even though the night may be five years from now. Hey y'all, but seriously, thank y'all. Thank you for appreciating y'all. I love y'all. It was an honor to meet you. It was nice meeting you too. I would have flirted with you a little bit more, but I don't want people people to think i'm just a whore He needs his jacket back too. No, I don't I want you to smell me. I'm sorry. Oh I do. It's there

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