The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Davido Talks '5IVE,' Tiwa Savage, Burna Boy, Wizkid, Chris Brown, Nigeria, Healing, Family +More
Episode Date: April 8, 2025The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Davido To Discuss '5IVE,' Tiwa Savage, Burna Boy, Wizkid, Chris Brown, Nigeria, Healing, Family. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1...051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, Davido!
Davido, what's up, brother?
What's up, man?
How you doing?
I'm good, good morning.
I'm doing good, good morning.
How you feeling, man?
Feeling good, man.
Just a little bit tired, been all over the place, you know what I'm saying?
Promoting this album that comes out soon.
So just been crazy for me.
Got the new album dropping April 18th, it's called Five.
Five, my fifth album.
Yeah, fifth album, yo.
You the one, yo.
A lot of hype surrounding you, yo.
Like seriously, you one of the most followed African artists
on IG and Twitter, YouTube, anything you drop, go crazy, do crazy numbers,
all your collabs, everything.
How's all that success impact?
Man, feels good, man.
You know, just, you know,
I stayed here a little time in my life,
so just to see everything come around full circle
for the culture, you know what I'm saying?
Even since when I was in school,
I was always pushing the African narrative and for it to just naturally pop off
That's crazy. You feel like one of the
Godfathers of Afrobeats and Afrobeats music because you were one of the first to yeah really pop and definitely
Commercialization pop. Yeah, definitely. You know I'm saying especially in the new age of the
Commercialization of the genre, you know, I'm saying yeah, but we have a lot of godfathers though that came before me, you know what I'm saying?
But we commercialized it, you know what I'm saying?
Made it cool, made it popular, so yeah, I take that.
Did it hurt or help?
Because it was, it almost felt like it was commercialized so fast.
Everybody jumped on it so fast and then it slowed down so much.
You felt like it hurt or helped with explosion.
That's why you always have to have your backing,
which is home.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why you notice that we always go home
any chance we get just to be around.
And there's so much going on in Africa
that we was okay for a long time.
Taylor popped off here, then we come out here for tours.
So I feel like we always have the backbone
to be able to, you know, kind of always be able
to go home, you know what I'm saying?
If anything, like if this stuff is slow a little bit,
always go home.
Something I found so interesting about you
was you didn't even grow up listening to Afro Beats.
No, I grew up listening to rap, like 50 Cent.
You always say 50. I like, when I met him the first time, because we were talking, because you know, into Afrobeats and then you grew up. No, I grew up into rap, like 50 Cent.
You always say 50.
50 was what it was.
I like, when I met him the first time,
because we were talking, because you know,
we do the tour, we do the stadium together in London.
So I'm telling him, I'm looking, he's just like, what?
I'm like, guy, you don't know Stani.
I'm like, I had the sneakers, I had the video game.
I had the video game.
You used to wear the tank top.
I had the game, I had the sneakers.
Did you wear the tank top?
Did you wear the tank top with the nipples on the side? The big white beard? Okay. Anything, I had like, I was crazy about like I had the sneakers. Did you wear the tank top? The white beard? The white beard?
The big white beard?
Okay.
Anything, I had like, I was crazy about like G-Unit,
like all of them, and just to be able to, you know,
go on tour with him, it's like, wow.
What did your family think about you being so influenced
by somebody from America like that?
I mean, they always knew I liked to rap, you know what I'm
saying?
Like, and you have to feel like my parents, you know,
did a little bit out here too, so they understand like American culture as well. You know what I'm saying? And you have to feel like my parents, you know, did a little bit out here too,
so they understand like American culture as well.
You know what I'm saying?
You ever look at these rappers
and be like, these poor ass niggas.
Hey.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That means yes.
They're going to the wild.
I mean, they know, they know what's going on, man.
Yeah.
Okay.
But it's all good like it's just a different time like I remember like coming out here
like after I went back home coming out in 2015 you know trying to work with people you
know Finesse get this I you know I had this song with Meek Mill at the time and I knew
what I had to do to get to Meek Mill like you know what I'm saying and it's so much
easier now where like my DM is like,
you know what I'm saying?
They understand it now.
Yeah, let's work, you know what I'm saying?
I'm trying to come to Nigeria.
You know what I'm like, oh come, let's,
you know what I'm saying, come experience it.
I love it when they come.
I'd rather meet them there.
I'd rather you come and-
Because you can show them.
My culture.
Most times when they come and they see how it is
and it's like, wow, why Jumaide was just there?
Because he's on my album.
We shot the video, he's on the single as well.
And he asked me a question, he was like,
why do you leave?
Your life is so dope here, you know what I'm saying?
Like he's never, he told me he's never seen
this kind of style done before, you know what I'm saying?
Like how everybody love you, he's never seen it.
Why do you come to America?
You know what I'm saying?
Why? Why? What do you come to America? You know I'm saying so Why?
What's the answer to that?
I'm American, you know I'm saying so it's different for me, but apart from that like there's so much going on outside
The diaspora with the culture and everything, you know I'm saying at the time it's slowing down now a little bit
You know I'm saying but did they get mad at you when you say that in Nigeria when you say you an American?
No, you know I'm saying like
they know it's like it's from a pet like naturalization not like
They know I still rep, you know Africa and rep Nigeria. I'm always home every chance I get
Yeah, so you were born in Atlanta. I was born in Atlanta and then I went back home with my parents
But we used to come every summer. You know every summer we had a raised in Atlanta. I went back home with my parents. But we used to come every summer.
Every summer, we had a house in Atlanta, so every summer.
And mind you, my siblings didn't live in Nigeria.
They stayed in London and America.
So I was the last child of five kids.
I was the only one at home with my parents,
because they wanted at least one kid with them.
So I didn't leave.
I'd come every summer, but I didn't come and stay till
I was like 14, 15.
So you saw the best of both worlds. So you had the trenches, because what part of Atlanta?
No, I was in Sanny Springs. But my cousins used to stay in Gwinnett on the North Side.
So I'd go there, go there, chill, smoke, you know what I'm saying? I can't do that at home.
But that's when I really experienced real Atlanta culture you know I'm saying you
know start tapping in with the Jordans you know I'm saying first it was just sandals
listen my mom was one of the first probably person in the world to get there's this particular
Chanel bag at this time this bag was like 20, 20 thousand, at that time, I'm talking about 80s.
She was the first, like my mom was stylish, like she walk in this building, you smelling the perfume like,
you know what I'm saying? So like, we've always, they've always been fly, cause like I said,
they understood American culture a little bit as well.
I was wondering.
I can't keep up with how much Afrobeats has evolved though
because you have the I'm a piano now.
Yeah, it's like.
What's the difference between.
You see like Afrobeats is not like how,
it's not a sound, it's not how,
it's not a type of music actually.
It's kind of like, it's the genre that we record
because in the UK there was this song
that blew up from the band's the band
It's like he's our like that's our like Jay type stuff like he broke all the barriers
So at the time in the UK, they didn't want to call it African music. Mm-hmm because you know
Yeah, so they called it Afrobeats
But Afrobeats was actually a genre that fella was doing that's fellas own genre which has a distinctive sound
It sounds a kind of way, you know what I'm saying?
So when they were describing the music for the Afrobeats, it's just called the Afrobeats
as a whole, which describes, so if you're an African artist and you sing R&B, like we
have people back home that don't even, like they sound like R&B type, Usher type singers,
and they're dudes like Udu Modu who's really,
trap sounds like he from Bronx.
You know what I'm saying?
Like type beat, type of vibe.
But they still call them Afrobeat artists.
So it's like, it's an umbrella that has been used
and it's kind of too late now to be like,
oh no, it's not Afrobeat.
And explaining it and all that.
So it's just like, we just ran with it.
So what are you currently doing?
Like when you look at your new album, 5, what is that on there?
I mean it's African music.
It's African music, but obviously if you go on a genre, they'll say it's Afro beats,
you know what I'm saying?
But it's African music, like the song with Victoria Monet, it's not Afro beats to me,
it's like Afro R&B, song with Becky G, like, kinda like Latin, but our music sounds alike anyway.
You know what I'm saying?
But definitely like you have original Afro beat,
David O songs on there.
But what I'm saying is that,
that's just the umbrella used, you know what I'm saying?
So my piano is from South Africa.
And that I'm not saying.
So South Africans since time always had great dope music.
And funny enough, since earlier in my career, I've been collaborating with South Africans, very
early in my career.
So my piano came in like, I'd say like five years, like to my knowledge, it's been going
on there since time.
But it became everywhere in Africa like five years ago.
And then definitely, you know how Nigerian re-tapped in with the sound too as well.
You know, I was working with their producers and one thing about Nigerian producers they
can adapt they can remake anything and make it sound like you know what I'm saying sick
so.
So does Nigeria have a sound because I was listening to some of the records off five.
Nigeria has a sound but like South Africa and my piano is actually their sound.
Their sound okay.
That's their that's really like I don't want to say they don't gatekeep it too like but
that's really they sound like I every time I do a song that's like I, I don't want to say they don't gatekeep it too, but that's really they
sound like I, every time I do a song that's like, I'm a piano ish, it's either I involve
one of the producers, or I involved one of the artists. One of my biggest records, the
unavailable record is featuring Musa Keyz, which is he's South African. On the album
too, he produced like two records
which he produced and they actually are my piano records.
So I feel like, because everybody has that image
of Nigeria being the giant of Africa
and us not like carrying other countries along musically.
Cause if you look at-
All the stars.
If you look at the numbers,
the top, I said the top five to ten artists that are globally known
as Afrobeat artists are 80% Nigerian.
You know what I'm saying?
So I do my best to carry them along, but now they're killing it with their parties, and
they have amazing DJs too.
And their parties, you should really visit one.
Why do you think that is though?
Why do you think Ghana hasn't gotten any do you think like Ghana hasn't gotten any,
I mean they got artists but it's not like Nigeria.
So I've ever got artists but it's not like Nigeria.
Why do you think Nigeria?
I think first of all the kind of people we are as well
are very like any your face like, you know what I'm saying?
Like if you go to any hood, even in New York,
like you see Nigerians everywhere.
So that's just how it is.
The kind of people we are, we're very,
I don't wanna say like, I don't wanna use the word bully, but we're like.
Give me your credit card.
Yeah.
Hey, yo. Jesus.
Not the credit card.
What's your issue, man?
Yo, you old school, man.
What?
Credit card.
Nah, they just ask for the numbers now, not the card.
Not the numbers, man.
Yeah, yeah.
How y'all doing it now, Demeter?
I don't know, man.
I know, I know, I know.
I know that shit digital, man.
That shit digital now man.
I wanted to ask, since you was such a fan of 50, you never tried to sign a 50 when
you first started?
I didn't even know, I didn't meet him.
The first time I ever saw 50, I was a kid in Vegas.
I was like, can I have a picture?
He was like, no.
He said no for real?
No, Luke D'Amene said no.
Like, look to me, I was a kid, because my brother was turning 21, so my dad took everybody to Vegas,
but I'm like 14, I can't do nothing,
so they doing their own thing,
so I just seen them in the lobby,
and I actually used to love Lloyd Banks,
that was actually my favorite,
and so I saw him and I went to him,
I'm like, ah, Lloyd Banks, ah,
and I took a picture of him, then I saw 50,
and I went to him, I'm like, ah,
with my accent then, like Nigerian,
wow, 50 Cent, I love him, can I ah with my accent then like Nigel I was like wow 50 Cent I love you McConnally picture no and just walked off
mmm do you tell him about that when you met him later on? Yeah I told him. What did he say?
You hear it now right? I met him like I seen him in New York and he brought me out
I remember he brought you out yeah and then yeah we doing London together with
May J Blige and the stadium and then yeah and then do in London together with major bludge and stadium amazing
And then yeah, and then like they saw like they saw the reaction of putting me on the tour
He's like yo, I want you to come on more days
Another person that you collaborate with that I I love each and every song Chris Brown
I always see when you talk about it
No, it but you know one song that I love that I felt like completely went under the radar because it was so both
Y'all was doing so much stuff at one time was blow my mind
That was your first that was our first single together right that was testing testing testing a song like that
You tested it. Yeah, like crazy when we did blow my mind. I had met Chris
Cuz he was already doing like
African stuff kind of artists, but I had never personally met him
But he had he has a Nigerian best friend big dude as always with him He was already doing African stuff with other artists, but I had never personally met him.
But he had a Nigerian best friend,
big dude that's always with him, Hoodie.
He's Nigerian.
So Hoodie hits me up like, yo.
Cause I had dropped a song that I did for my wife
at the time, it was called Asharan's,
huge, it was huge in the Caribbean.
And Chris liked that song.
So from there we linked up,
and then I came to America, came to LA.
I remember the first time linking up with him like he was just so cool.
We hadn't even done the record and then we did the record then he's like
we would then he came to Atlanta and I linked up he's like yo let's shoot the video
and this is all happening in like a week.
So I'm like oh is this real like yeah okay let's shoot the video so I'm gonna
because I've I've been in situations like you you know how you do work with American artists.
When I first came, I didn't even know,
oh, you have to get songs cleared, all that.
I'm heading over a brand, let me get that verse.
They're calling me too, hey, yo,
I might want some more money.
I'm like, what?
This is way before I met Chris.
You know what I'm saying?
That's a whole nother situation.
And then I met Chris and how everything just went.
Video was everything free, the clothes, everything free.
Crazy.
And then at that time, that's when like,
I think Beyonce had the gift album.
A lot of things were happening for the culture
and then me and C.B. dropped, you know,
Blow My Mind as well.
And then from there we just became really good friends
and just kept on doing music, music, music.
And he's been on like all my albums since then.
You know what I'm saying?
I co-wrote the under, the influence with him and my producer.
That ended up becoming huge.
Amazing.
And then from there, we just locked in and then we just did the Sensational.
And then...
Is he on five?
Yes, he's there.
He's on five?
He's on all my albums.
I know that.
He's excited now.
That's what you need to know that, right?
He's on my albums.
He's on all my albums.
He just, you know, we was in South Africa together. I'm gonna ask you, did you go to his show? Yeah. I came, oh my albums. I know that. He's excited now. He's happy to know that, right? All my albums, he's all my albums. He just, you know, we was in South Africa together.
How I'm gonna ask you, did you go to his show?
Yeah, I came, oh my God.
Like that experience alone,
and it was just a full circle moment for everybody.
Like for me, for him, everybody was just so happy for CB.
Like finally everybody gets it, you know what I'm saying?
Cause I've always been there like,
like I'll be talking to him the next five minutes ten backflips on stage
You know I'm talking about like he's not human and I'm saying so it's like seeing him taking him to Africa
And I'm so happy that I told him I was like look
America now
America now woke up and you had to just show them like you had to come to Africa and they saw it
and they're like yo. I was like 80,000 right? Yes, two nights. That's crazy. So I told them I was like
see now you're doing the stadium tour. Sometimes you have to go outside and let people see from
far like yo other people are appreciating what we have. You guys have Chris Brown that's a
that's a gift that was given from God
to music in America, you know what I'm saying?
Just the same way.
So when he came out there, I feel like
he saw that full circle moment
and I was just happy to just be involved in that.
You know what I'm saying?
And then he got the Grammys after like how many years.
You know what I'm saying?
So off of music that I worked on,
it's just the best.
So you got a Grammy too then?
No, no, no. I don't get a plaque. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I worked on it.'s just the best. So you got a Grammy too then? No, no, no.
I mean, I don't get a plaque.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I worked on it.
So what's with songs on the album?
Yeah.
What's the meaning of awoke?
Awoke, awoke.
A-W-U-U.
Awoke.
Am I pronouncing it right?
Awoke.
He's telling you awoke.
Awoke.
You don't got to spell it for him.
He's telling you.
It's like a chant.
Awoke.
Awoke.
Just like a chant, like togetherness, happiness, you know all good things.
You know what our music entails?
We don't really be singing about deep stuff like that.
But we do have deep songs, but I'm saying with this particular record, that's what it
means.
Do you chase the US charts still?
Or no?
I mean, everybody chases something, you know what I'm saying?
But you being so big overseas, being big everywhere.
I remember when Sensation got into Hot 100, I got a call, I was trying to understand,
I was like, oh, okay, yeah, so we in the Hot 100.
I was like, oh, but then the records are already performing everywhere, setting out arenas,
so you know what I'm saying, so it's like, it's give and take.
But like, you know we have our own
Billboard Afrobeat charts now.
So we follow that as well.
We have a UK chart.
But it's always amazing to see an Afrobeat song
scale into the upper echelon of charts.
You know what I'm saying, every time.
I wonder if the labels get it though
in the radio stations,
because the song like, Unavailable,
that should have been number one to me in America.
Crazy.
I know it was number one in the UK, wasn't it?
Yes, yes, yes, UK, yes.
I mean, it just depends.
I feel like maybe if I got like a Latin remix or something,
maybe that would have gone crazy and stuff like that.
But also like, it's just, to me it's just,
now the game is different.
Like somebody could just, a random person could just
do your TikTok and blow, look at Young L.A.
from a song from 20 years ago.
He's doing shows everywhere at night.
That's like, you know what I'm saying?
So the internet, I feel like unavailable.
And because I was just coming back
from what I just went through, I was mourning for a damn near
year, you know what I'm saying?
So me dropping that album, like even we didn't believe it was going to be that big, you know
what I'm saying?
So by the time we dropped it, you know what I'm saying?
I'm like, damn, I gotta get ready.
I gotta get ready for tour.
I gotta, you know what I'm saying?
So by the time all that was happening, you know what I'm saying?
And then we had to go on tour and it was just crazy.
And we just, we just like, you know what?
I think we just, we missed that opportunity
for Unavailable in the States.
Classic record though.
Chart wise, I mean we went gold,
I got a gold plaque on the way to platinum,
so it's like still made bread, you know what I'm saying?
But yeah.
You know, you have been through a lot personally,
especially with loss.
What kept you grounded through that grief?
My family, man.
My family, because you know, my family man. Ah my family because you know I'm
my family's very big right and what I noticed was that you know I'm saying you
know you grew up in a family since you were a kid like I've always been the
youngest around that's little David that's little David and then I blew up
obviously and then I know how many times like I'm like I'll be so busy like out
of it and then like even go to a point where like I'd be so busy like out of it and then like even go to a point where
like I'd be like it was my siblings were getting upset like yo D we still your family like
you know I'm saying call talk to your nephews blah blah blah and then when my world went
dark like they was the only ones there like you know I'm saying every day obviously my
wife and her family were there but the only thing that got us and we both strong like
me and my wife is strong but apart apart from that, the people around us
that were there at the time, you know what I'm saying?
Really did a great job, and I wanna give kudos to my father.
My dad really stepped in, he put everything on pause,
the business, everything on pause just to make sure that,
you know what I'm saying, we were okay, you know what I'm
saying, and we got twins now, so it's like,
he's lit, a boy and a girl.
And the boy looks exactly like my son that past,
like scary exactly, they act the same,
the same, everything he used to do, like he does.
So like me and my wife, we be like,
yeah, he came back, type stuff.
I know you're a spiritual person too,
so is like your faith and your family,
is that what carries you,
or do you ever just sit with the pain sometimes?
I mean it depends on what you like face some people's faith are stronger like me. I believe in God fully absolutely
Like my dad we grew up seven day Venice like Saturday going church Saturday doing the Sabbath six o'clock
No TV and no earrings. That's how I grew up like with my father
Then my other siblings they go to like Methodist Church normal Catholic stuff like up, like with my father. Then my other siblings, they go to like Methodist church,
normal Catholic stuff and like that.
But with my faith, stuff like that,
if you don't have faith after that,
I don't know what faith is, you know what I'm saying?
But with me, like I'm a Christian, you know what I'm saying?
But I don't really have like a certain church
or a certain pastor that like, you know, talk to anybody.
And when you talk about how you had to go on the road
when Unavailable started popping,
do you ever feel like fame and celebrity
get in the way of like really healing?
Definitely, definitely.
Like, I could see sometimes, like I was like,
kinda, I would say healing too fast,
but like I'm on the road.
Like, you have to understand, like my wife at home,
chilling, like she comes one or two shows, you know what I'm saying, go back. But see me, I'm on the road like you have to understand like my wife at home chilling like she comes one or two shows you know I'm saying go back but see me
I'm on the road my journey is pumping I'm seeing in a week I'm seeing a
million dollars like I'm seeing all the crowd being the car they chasing us so
it's like you're smiling but it's like you need to kind of slow down you know
I'm saying so you know I'm saying? So, you know what I'm saying? That's why things like
me getting married, you know what I'm saying? Like, okay, look, you need to, this is how,
this is how we got lit last time and, you know what I'm saying? Forgot about family, so you know
what I'm saying? Slow down a bit, you know what I'm saying? I told my boys, like, look, I need to go
take you home real quick, you know what I'm saying? So, gotta move my wife to Atlanta, everybody, the
kids, gotta crib, you know what I'm saying?
So I just be home. This is prior to doing five, you know. After the tour was done, you know what I'm saying?
We got married. Her mom flew her mom to America to be with her with the kids and everything.
So like I just be chilling like at the crib. And it's like, I'm like, yo, this is not bad. Like, sometimes, sometimes you got situations. I'm serious.
I'm like, yo, it was so crazy that after I now sat
for so long, like, I was having anxiety.
Like my boys like, let's go.
I'm like, we'll go out.
Envy, I'm telling you, we'll go out.
We'll go out with lit, the bottles.
I'm like, you sleep.
So the other day we went to, we had to,
we went to Trinidad for the carnival. Me and my shout dropped
the records so I performed. Me and my boys talking in the room. I said, I don't enter
the room. I said, what are you guys talking about? I said, man, boss, I don't have any
phone. You've changed, man. Where are the girls? I said, where are the girls? Then when
I get in trouble, everybody run away and leave me to face the internet and all that like
Boy, I mean women have dealt with me in my career
So it's like boy like I'm good on that like trust me like I've seen I've been at the highest of the highest
The most the best time is when there's no problem at home. Yes.
Yeah.
I don't care how much you make.
I don't care how much is in your account.
I've had, I've made it all.
When that's sleep and wake up,
your heart is not beating, check your phone like.
It's called peace.
Yeah.
Peace of mind, man.
Not having no anxiety.
There's nothing like that.
I went to my friend in high school recently,
so he just got married. So he calls me and I'm back in Nigeria. I'm like at home. So he calls me
like, ah David, you know, I just got married. Come and come and visit my wife. You know,
my man, we just got this new nice, it's nothing big, something nice, something small, modest
and his wife is kids. So I'm like, yeah, I'll pull up. I'm like, yeah, but I got too many
people with me now. So let me come like later in the night when everybody kind of like gone to bed.
And then I drove to my guy's house, just low key.
Me and my security, blah, blah, blah.
And I just sat in his living room.
His wife brought food for me.
Me and him were talking.
I was just looking at him like this.
I was just looking at him like, I said, God.
I said, God, I know I'm happy you did all this for me.
But boy, I'll switch this, I'll switch this with my friend right now. He was telling me, man, God, I know I'm happy you did all this for me, but boy, I'll switch this.
I'll switch this, my friend, right now.
He was telling me, God, your life is the best.
I said, bro, my life is the best, but bro, you don't know what you have.
Like the way you and your wife are even playing, you guys are not even, there's nobody knows
you.
You and your wife can't go out.
Nobody knows you.
Do you understand?
Like when my situation is way different, so it's different, it's give and take, but sometimes it's a dream that
I wanted and what if it never happened too?
So it's like, I'll just be thinking about that too.
So now, so I'm going to come at you like a real, not no African, like a real American
nigga.
So, you done cheated.
Like it's done.
Like you should.
I know once what I like.
You know what I'm saying?
I say I don't want that anymore.
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I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm OK.
I'm OK. I'm on my envy swag right now.
But you can add more vibes to the roster if you want to.
If I want to but I don't.
Too much wahala.
I have four kids, I have five kids and four women.
With four women.
You know what I'm saying?
So you're ready.
So you done, that's it?
I want to go home.
I'm sweating already.
I'm sweating for you.
In certain reasons in Nigeria,
you can have more than one wife.
Yes, no, it's not certain reasons.
It's like if that's-
If you want to, yeah.
If you want, you just, it don't have to be a religion.
It don't have to be anything like you-
Okay, now for example, the Eastern part of Nigeria,
which is like the evils and stuff,
like I've seen a lot of situations,
especially like the Niger Delta part of Nigeria. I've seen a lot of situations especially like the Niger Delta parts of Nigeria I've seen a lot of situations where it's like multiple wives like my uncle that's the governor. He got two wives
You know I'm saying I have another uncle um
That his all his wife's live with him like they be playing with each other's like he's Christian
No, I'm saying so how much money you got though very rich exactly. You know I'm saying it, but I mean that that don't mean nothing
You know I'm saying But But I mean that don't mean nothing. You know what I'm saying?
Shit over here, dude.
But it's that still wahala.
Up on all the money, there's still wahala.
You know what I'm saying?
I'd rather go and live with how my other guy is living.
Maybe because I've, maybe I've had bad experiences.
You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes the experience is the best teacher.
You feel me?
I'm saying like, it's just never not worth it.
Because when it happens, I know how many times when we was in,
having on the yachts in Miami, having the best time,
and then when it happens, what you gonna be saying?
Damn, I shouldn't have gone.
I should have stayed, man.
And the worst thing you like-
But we not talking about that, though.
We talking about having another-
I'm not cheating again.
No, not cheating.
If you're able to have another wife
under the laws of Nigeria.
Yeah. Would I? No. No, not now. If you're able to have another wife under the laws of Nigeria, yeah
Would I yeah, no
No, not now. I believe
The truth when they say no, no, no, no, no, you said one long though
I blew up my first song blew up when I was 17. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm with you.
Have one woman, that's the most beautiful thing
in the world, beautiful family, nothing better than that.
Yeah.
Get that man up above a paper towel.
Listen, I was expecting you to come in here
a little chubby though,
because I know your wife is a chef too.
I was ready to say she got her own thing going.
So when you ask her.
I actually gained, I just got back on the road.
So like, think about me, when I'm active,
I lose weight quick. But I gained weight quick too. So it's like when I'm home, and the kitchen back on the road. So like, think about me, when I'm active, I lose weight quick.
But I gained weight quick too.
So it's like when I'm home and the kitchen's right in front
of me, I'm like, boy, she cooks everything.
That was the last minute on the road.
Do you have any anxiety?
Cause you're leaving your family again
and leaving your kids.
Any anxiety like, ah.
Oh, when I was leaving this time and like,
you know what I'm saying?
Just natural, you know, family stuff.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm like, babe, I'm on the road, I'm on the road.
But it's like, you still have to handle stuff
back at home as well.
And just balancing it, it's crazy.
But I feel like you can balance it.
I'm not the first person to be married
and be a superstar with all this career.
Nothing happened, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, things happen, but you know what I'm saying?
I've seen people way more success than me, way more success than me, handle it.
So, who am I?
I bet you, since you've been married
and really devoted to your wife being faithful,
I bet you've seen your life just go up, up, up, up, up.
I'm telling you, like everything, like I'm, every time,
no, my wife has always had this thing over me
since we were young.
Every time I fight her, something bad happens.
Something bad happens to my business.
Oh damn.
So if I fight her, she'll say, you're fighting me, Abii.
Don't worry, your album is coming.
You want to fight me?
No, I'm telling you because it's like she has that grace, you know what I'm saying,
like over me and like everything. You know, my kids, you know, she don't have all my kids, but you know what I'm saying, like, over me and like everything, you know,
my kids, you know, she don't have all my kids, but you know what I'm saying, like my kids
love her, you know what I'm saying, especially my daughter, love her, so I'm just happy to
see like growth.
You know, there was a time that, there was a time I was scared to even bring my other
kids around her, you know what I'm saying, so the growth just made me understand like,
you know, I didn't even have to tell my daughter like, oh, this is your, she made me understand like, you know, I didn't have to tell my daughter like oh
This is your she kind of just like
It just happens. She just got it. You know, the next thing we was in Bahamas and my wife braided her hair I'm looking at the crowd. I'm looking at the room like yes
Hello, you you all been together for a while, right? Yeah. Yeah, like before we got married was together like 11 years
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah school, you know men in school
We've been married for 11 years. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, school, you know, men in school, girlfriend,
and then we got married.
We meant to get married.
She's the best man.
Oh, y'all were young, like, you was young when you married.
Yes, I mean, she was like, I was 18.
She was 17 in school, and then we just finished school
together.
That's how many of y'all would've been since school.
16, 15.
26 years.
And then another thing, what I, cause I'm not married yet, but I do understand, like even cause I'm under, yeah. 16, 15. No more like 26 years. And then another thing, what I,
because I'm not married yet, but I do understand.
You have to be engaged.
No, I'm engaged.
I saw it, I saw it.
Yes, in my new ring.
Thank you, thank you so much.
What's the wedding, you don't know yet?
No, I don't know yet.
Okay.
It's the schedules, whatever, but.
I do understand when you get married young,
it's certain things that you do have to live out
because there was a lot of infidelity in my parents marriage but they got married right out of high
school so you're not able to live that bachelor life you're not able to be you
know had that whole phase as a woman you know what I'm saying like it's certain
things that you just don't get to experience and then you grow up with the
person and some things sometimes some things do happen or whatever you just
push past it. You know the culture that really,
apart from like, we have our own African culture back home.
But like, it's when I actually went to school in America
that I was like, oh my, they don't play with relationships
in America.
Back home, boyfriend and girlfriend is like,
like we, yeah, but you know what I'm saying,
but it's when I got to America, I was like, boy, they don't like, people we, yeah, but you know what I'm saying? But it's when I got to America, I was like,
boy, they don't like, people will lose endorsements
over cheating on your wife.
You know, as a back home, you know what I'm saying?
Cause of the cultures, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like you, you can, okay, for example,
this is just an example, you know what I'm saying?
It might not happen in a lot of households.
And it goes for also the of households and it goes for also
the groom and it goes for also
the the wife. So, let me give
an example of like for a guy.
For example, now, a lot of
husbands in some families like a
lot of them, they grew up with
their mom. Their mom is
everything. You know, those
kind of husbands that they can't
live there even if they get
married, their mom must be in the house controlling this doing that anything the
anything the husband does right or wrong she's supporting the husband that is
mentality in Nigeria now same thing for women too do you understand the parents
who always support their daughter no matter right or wrong where in like in
America it's like me me and you get married,
you parents, bar, your brother, bar,
this is between me and you, you know what I'm saying?
So in Nigeria, you never really leave that family.
Have you seen a Nigerian wedding?
It's not about the groom and bride,
it's about the families, you know what I'm saying?
Coming together and doing this.
So I'm doing my white wedding in Miami in August.
I thought you were in the wedding.
I thought you were married already.
That was traditional.
Oh, they said that was like a national holiday in Nigeria.
What? Crazy, man.
Girls crying like, oh my God, he's off the market.
I can't believe it.
Yo, that was like, yo, that was really a holiday, bro.
That's what it sounds like.
The whole world stand still.
You know why too, because me and my wife's relationship
was kind of in the
public eye especially after I did that one song. So a lot of things have happened
apart from even us losing our child but like I don't messed up a lot of times on
some other stuff you know I'm saying so I feel like that full circle moment
everybody was like man finally you know our son finally got his things together
and really gave this girl,
cause she's like, she's the best.
My wife, you can never see her go to any interview.
You know what I'm saying?
She said, oh, my husband did this.
Or take a phone or go live,
or do normal things that, you know what I'm saying?
And I appreciated her for that cause she could.
You know what I'm saying?
If I sit here and lie to you, I say, oh, I perfect.
Nobody's perfect.
We all go through things, but you know what I'm saying?
She's just that one, man.
How was the relationship with the big three?
You know, yourself, Berna and Wizkid.
What's the relationship like?
I mean, we don't have a personal,
I don't have a personal relationship with them.
I did at some point in time,
but I feel like the culture is just so big.
You know what I'm saying?
And the conversation is bigger than the big three right now. And that's the honest truth. You know what I'm saying? And the conversation is bigger than the big three right now.
And that's the honest truth.
You know what I'm saying?
There's Real Ma, there's Aira Star, you know what I'm saying?
There are so many artists for us to just really make
this thing about us.
I feel like right now, all three of us understand
that it's bigger than us.
And whatever it takes for the culture to grow,
whichever way, you know what I'm saying? That is true, but a lot of times, and you know this from it takes for the culture to grow, whichever way, you know what I'm saying?
That is true, but a lot of times,
and you know this from living in Atlanta,
what it takes for a culture to grow
is unity and group operation.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It takes all three of y'all maybe coming together,
doing records together, like especially now.
Yeah, I mean, it's not impossible.
It's just sometimes just, I feel like people around us,
you know what I'm saying, wouldn't want that to happen.
You know what I'm saying? So, eventually like, huh? You we don't want that to happen You know, so why not actually like huh? You said wouldn't want it to happen. Yeah
Some people make money off just not us. Not just not just being cool
I guess yeah, I'm saying but like with me, you know, I'm saying there's been situations where we've all you know
I'm saying like all been cool, but you know over years
So much success so much people in between feel like the fans pitch out against each
other? Of course like it'd be annoying you know I'm saying like even the other day so I just did
yesterday two days ago so Victoria Menae she's asking me like yo what are these people saying
so I'm looking at like yeah don't read so anybody you see so I'm telling her like, so anybody you see with this emoji, they're going to say something.
So just ignore it.
You go to the other side.
So just ignore it.
Yeah.
Nikki don't call me about this before.
Like, like, yo, what, what's going on?
So I'll be, you know what I'm saying?
It's cool because it happens in America too.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
It happens in America too.
I see it everywhere.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's just, I think about it, the fans also, it's also a thing for them. They wake up like, who are we doing today? How we,
what's the agenda against David? They make money off it. You know what I'm saying? I've had,
I've seen somebody that has been, used to abuse me online for a long time.
You said you used to abuse me. Like talk, you know, talk down on me. And I was like, you know, a lot of people, these people don't have faces, you know, but it's lucky for me, I saw this guy.
You see the Republic?
Yes.
But I didn't know that I knew
that, that is him, because he
didn't have a face.
But this guy, he has me, he
has told me so much, I paid one
of the fans, I said, come, I'll
give you 5,000.
Tell me where this guy is.
I didn't want to do anything
to him.
I don't want to have a
conversation with him.
And we did have a conversation
with him.
And he said, I'm going to tell
you something, I'm going to
tell you something, I'm going to tell you something, I'm going to tell you something, I'm going to tell you something, I'm going to tell you something, I'm going He has me so much I paid one of the fan
Tell me where these guys I don't have a conversation. Yeah, we did have a conversation and I just realized that yes sucker
It doesn't have nothing against me. It's just what is working for him. It's the economy
Especially now Elon done made them make money. Yeah
If I tell you the crazy things they've been I can't wish my wife, because I know that my wife would just break down.
I'm like, I'm like, you're bugging.
And then you get the guy and he's like,
I don't need to, David, please forgive me.
I don't need to feed my family.
He was African?
Yes.
Oh, wow.
You know, it's crazy.
I told Charlamagne and I told Justice the other day,
these sites reward people for doing this.
So the worse they talk about you,
the more followers they get,
the more likes they get, and they get paid for it.
So they gonna keep doing it and keep going on and on,
and it's fucked up, but.
It's crazy, like even the new artists,
like I have a label, you know what I'm saying?
So I have artists that are under me too.
And I just sometimes, I just see them, I'm like,
what you doing?
I just see them on their phone. I say doing? I just seen him on their phone. I said stop reading this
comment. We'll finish you stop me. If I think in the history of
Nigerian music, I think I've been the most best, disrespected
artist for my for what I've done.
Why? Because of your upbringing? Because it's part of that. But respected artist for what I've done. Why though?
Because of your upbringing?
It's part of that.
But let me tell you, just like that's how it is.
Anybody that has, I think because of me and me, I got OT, there's something we call OTs,
orientation.
You know what I'm saying?
My mom met my dad at rich, but my mom was from the hood.
You know what I'm saying?
So she gave me and my sisters that I still have that orientation
That's why when I was going to school, I went to the most expensive high school in Nigeria at the time
But after school I'd go to the hood to be with my cousins in them
That's how I even got the music knew myself how to record so that OT I feel like that just OT is what has helped me
Kind of finding middle ground because they're like damn
These guys pops of billionaire, but he out here
Grand with us. He's more humble than the people that are from the hood with us
He can sit I can sit with them. We can sit down. We can talk we can go out we can eat
Everybody in my house is the same food. My wife doesn't play that my driver my cook my
Electrician anything everybody we the same food because My wife doesn't play that. My driver, my cook, my electrician, anything, everybody, we eat the same food, because that's
how I was brought up.
So I think that too has helped me in the industry.
But my initial entrance into the game, they was not having it, boy.
Like they don't, Nigeria doesn't work that way.
You're a son of a successful person, you're going to get it.
You know what I'm saying?
But I'm lucky to come from a very great family that we,
my dad is university, 60, 70% of the students are free.
You know what I'm saying?
So people know that, people know my family for like,
being cool headed, very, very humble people.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm first generation entertainer in my family.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm the one that, nobody knew who my dad was.
He was a silent billionaire.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm the one that came out and sang a song saying ah
I'm my daddy's this blah blah blah and then it blew up what made you want to do that though your dad's a billionaire
I could run the company just relax and chill ain't got to deal with the BS
But you was like nah, I want to go this way cuz I 50 cent
So 50 Cent's your daddy? Huh?
Oh, not a daddy.
What the?
Listen, listen, listen.
Do you know what I watched the other day on YouTube?
Top 20 Charlamagne funny moments.
Breakfast on my mom's.
You know the funny one when the guy was talking about you, you were like, we're not gonna
laugh.
We're not gonna laugh.
Then he's like, when I was young.
Damn, y'all.
I said short name, man.
We got no role.
But I respect it though, you come from a wealthy family, but you still went out and earned
your own name.
But to Envy's point, was there ever any pressure just to take the easy route?
I've been mad a lot of times, like after the fact that I've blown up like a lot
of situations have happened you know I'm saying I don't you know I'm saying I've
overcome them now like we are we outside you know I'm saying well before getting
here I know how many situations I kind of overcome I know some rooms I
wasn't being let in because people felt like, man, he's good anyway, man. Take us, man. Like, we need it.
You know what I'm saying? But the music spoke for itself.
You know what I'm saying? Till I was able to get in those rooms,
get in those conversations.
Like, I know how long I fought to be like, yo,
yes, I come from a great background, but bro, I'm dope.
Like, you know what I'm saying? My music is really dope.
Like, I'm actually a really, really good musician. And over time, you know what I'm saying? It was harder for me. People
think it was easier for me because of, you know what I'm saying, this paper. But it's not only
paper because a lot of billionaire kids don't try to blow after me. Not none of them blow. Not one.
You know what I'm saying? So, and there have been times where I'm like, you know what, I'm done.
You know what I'm saying? I'm just going, y'all can have it, you know what I'm saying?
I'm mad, I think I've even tweeted this before,
I think when there was like something on the internet,
I'm like, you know what, fuck this,
y'all can have everything, you know what I'm saying?
I've done my bit, I'm out.
And let me tell you, if I go work for my dad,
I'm back way more.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, I mean, that's still there waiting,
but you know what I'm saying?
Right now we're still doing this. And it's hard, right? It might be easier now waiting, but you know what I'm saying? Right now we're still doing this.
And it's hard, right?
It might be easier now because of, you know,
what artists in Nigeria have done.
But when I think about you, when I think about my girl,
Cuppi, like, it would have been easier for y'all
to be doctors or something like that.
It's harder for y'all to go into the entertainment industry
and be successful.
Crazy, especially like Cuppi's a female too.
That's right.
You know, and she's not an artist.
She's like, she's an artist, but also a DJ. Producer, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I remember her side got going through Cuppi's a female too. That's right. You know, and she's not an artist. She's like, she's an artist, but also a DJ.
Producer, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So I remember her side got going through Cuppi now,
chilling, man.
She got like four Ferraris.
Cuppi.
What's about your kids, though?
What about your girls?
Love Cuppi.
Do you want your kids to stay in this industry,
or would you prefer your kids to go work with grandpa?
I'ma go work with my dad, man.
I'm chubby, man.
You know what I'm saying?
So every Christmas, my dad takes all the grandkids
to the Caribbean's.
Either send kids or like we've just sent kids the last two years.
The last two years, last year we did Bahamas and I could just see him like up on all the
things he has, multiple private jets, multiple this that's his happiness was him seeing his
grandchildren like he rented out like this, just him and his single man.
Chillin'.
Oh, your father's single?
Yeah.
Nice.
You're not.
You're engaged.
I'm asking for the people, I'm asking for the listeners.
You're making sure.
But yeah, I just saw his happiness.
Man, this is what life is about.
So my kids is like, whatever they wanna do,
cause you know what I'm saying?
As much as my dad didn't really want me in the entertainment,
he didn't like overkill my dream, you know what I'm saying?
He saw that, damn, this boy is really adamant about doing this,
you know what I'm saying? So I would want to do that to them as well.
And my daughter already like, she already singing and dancing like crazy.
How do you stay so hungry when you're already so big as an artist,
and you know you good regardless of if the music hit or not? I mean, I think it's like. How do you stay so hungry when you already so big as an artist and you know you good,
regardless of if the music hit or not?
I mean, I think it's the passion, man.
I think I'm just already like, I'm obsessed with music.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm obsessed with the life, the lifestyle
of just being a musician.
So apart from that takes it out,
apart from, you know what I'm saying,
the money is good and everything, the fame.
But when you love something,
when you're passionate about something,
that's why Ronaldo is keep going. That's why Messi keep going. You know what I'm saying?
They've won it all. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like my, what's kept me going is,
you know, definitely the passion, you know what I'm saying? And that's, that's the globalization
of the culture as a whole. Like who, who, who wants to be here now experiencing this?
Like we've had our whole career before America even tapped in, you know what I'm saying?
When we did Fall that time, remember?
So it's like, I've had a 10 year career
before Afrobeat popped up here.
That's what a lot of people don't know.
Like there are so many artists back home,
they are huge, they do stadiums.
They don't care about coming to America.
People like Flavo Anabanya,
he has the whole Igbo culture in his hand.
He don't need, he could come out here and do Barclays two nights and you probably wouldn't
even hear about it.
You understand what I'm saying?
So it's like.
So what's left?
You said, what's left to accomplish?
You done got number one records, you done got, so what's left for you that you want?
Just what's left for me, man, I think this album is going to really solidify, you know what
I'm saying, not all those two records chart and go on radio in America. I'm like, we want
to go the full way, you know what I'm saying? And also bring people with me as well. I have
a lot of amazing songwriters, producers. I started off as a producer. One of my producers
that was on my last album, Timeless, I met this guy through some random
person at the airport that came to me.
He just cast a check for like 400 from publishing.
Wow.
Damn.
That was a, came to my house and dropped off 40,000 from me.
Like thank you.
I was like, what?
Like nobody has ever done this.
Like, just kidding me.
You know what I'm saying?
You didn't have to. You know what I'm saying? Because I get a check off him me. You know what I'm saying? You didn't have to, you know what I'm saying?
Cause I get a check off him anyway.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's just like stuff like that.
I'm telling you like African music is changing generations.
Like these people are actually blowing,
doing one hit songs and getting a million dollars off label.
So it's a lucrative business.
Any of your friendships ever gone sour over your success or?
Oh, definitely.
So many.
So many.
You can't, you do good.
99 times.
The one time you don't, you know what I'm saying?
I've had so many close of my friends, like even my friend from college, blackmailed me
like then, like long time ago, like my friend, and he was from New York, man.
Don't blame me on that.
Don't blame him on us. Don't blame him on us.
But I'm just saying like he saw me actually grow,
saw me grind, and then when we got there,
he tried to, you know, kind of, you know what I'm saying?
So I've had-
What he do, send you an email,
ask him for your social security number?
No, no. Shut up, man.
So what happened was that he held the camera like,
this is my boy, so he held the camera, that's my guy.
So it's like, we talk about everything.
Oh, wow.
So there's a clip he had about me talking about another artist.
You know what I'm saying?
But you know what I'm saying?
Behind closed doors, we all talk about each other.
So I'm on my phone.
So you know the disappearing messages?
Yeah.
I just saw a video and it said you have 24 hours something something something
something and I'm like and it was from his phone like you know I'm saying I
just called him I called my sister I'm like yo this was going on and called his
sister his sister called his mom and then like the other he wrote me like
three years ago like yo man I'm sorry for what I did. You could have been right here.
How much you want?
I'm just curious.
I think you wanted like $40,000.
All that for $40,000.
That's so short-sighted.
My boys make that in the worst week right now.
But that's God though.
God's letting you know who you need around you.
What happened between you and T.Y. Savage?
I know you all were really really close.
That's my sister, man.
She cool.
Man, like I said, you know what I'm saying?
Even with the big three question you asked me,
you know what I'm saying?
I remember when all of us, you know what I'm saying,
coming up together.
You know what I'm saying?
Me and Tiwa, we used to stay in the same house.
That's like my house, big sis.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
She saw me as a youngin.
You know what I'm saying?
But the situation with Tiwa was kind of personal. You know what I'm saying? But the situation with Tiwa was kind of personal.
She's very, very good friends with the mom of my daughter, my first daughter, which we
were in court having custody and stuff like that.
So I just felt like, you know what I'm saying?
Help me see my daughter.
So we just got into a little argument. It was nothing. You know what I'm saying? It me, help me see my daughter. So we just got in a little argument.
It was nothing, you know what I'm saying?
It was just like brothers and sisters arguing.
You know what I'm saying?
I haven't seen her since then, to be honest.
But she did reach out and you know what I'm saying?
So probably if it happens, it happens.
And I know that, but I love her.
You know, I love her child.
And I saw him grow up.
You know what I'm saying?
She's an amazing person.
She changed the game for females.
You know what I'm saying? She'll always have person. She changed the game for females, you know what I'm saying?
She always have that respect, you know, that's my sister.
I'll never let nothing happen to her, she knows.
You know what I'm saying?
What about WizKid, do you love WizKid?
That is not his sister.
That's not his sister.
I'm just asking.
I love everybody, man.
I do wanna ask a question about the big three though.
Like if they call, they call Bernard a rebel
and they talk about WizKid, he has the mystique.
What is, what's your lane in that, in that big three?
I mean, I'm just a mule.
You just a mule.
I'm just a mule.
I'm just a mule.
I'm just a mule.
Like I'm just a mule.
Just me.
I thought you said I'm just a mule.
Like a worker.
I really thought you were.
I was like, are you just a worker?
That's what I thought.
Like, oh yeah, I'm just a mule.
People, people, people know me as the outgoing guy.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Very, you know, free. You know what I thought like people people know me as the outgoing guy yeah you know
saying very you know free you know I'm saying um I don't have that mystique or that rebel you know
I'm saying I can't act that way I'm just me and people sometimes some people be like man you're
too free you're too free so don't you know you're a superstar I'm like bro I've been listening I've
gone Disney once out two years old yeah this does not yeah like I
like I always say like if my dad walks in the room like if you walking on the
road you know I'm saying my dad passes you by you probably would have known
like I'm telling you so that's how I grew up my manager began mad like I'd
be in the house I'd be in slippers Look good every time, you know what I'm saying?
But there are people that are born artists.
That's just how they, they coming out their room like,
you know what I'm saying?
That's, people are like that, you know what I'm saying?
That's what works for them.
And to be honest, it's work for them, you know what I'm saying?
What's worked for me is work for me.
And what's worked for them, you know, is work for them.
Maybe if they like they feel like me,
maybe they wouldn't get what they have.
You know what I'm saying?
And maybe the way I am is what has helped me.
So it's just like everybody.
I feel like in every industry,
just like how you had the big three back in the day
with like Jay-Z, they were all different kind of people.
Same thing with Drake and Kendrick.
They're different kind of people. You know what I'm Drake and Kendrick. Kendrick, Drake, Cole. They're different kind of people.
You know what I'm saying?
Drake outside.
You know what I'm saying?
And Kendrick is like, you don't even know what that next move is.
So it's like they're different kind of people.
And that's okay.
You know what I'm saying?
That's okay.
Yeah.
Well, the album is out on April 18th.
What you want to hear made?
April 18th.
What you want to play off the album?
What's the Chris Brown song?
I know she got that one.
They sent that one.
They sent that one. Okay. Yeah. Let me tell you? We got that one. They sent that one.
They sent that one.
OK.
Yeah.
Let me tell you what we got so far.
We got Be Still.
Hold on.
Which ones we got?
We got Be There Still.
We got Awoke.
Awoke is Awoke.
Awoke.
OK.
The album not out yet.
Not out yet.
OK.
So let's do Awoke.
Let's do the funds.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
Because those are like, you know, we apart from like the records you guys here
It's a big dude. I know that this guy you got on this record is big. Oh do you know dude?
Yes, biggest rapper now. Yeah, so a lot of things you guys know like for example
You see how when I came out here, we had the air for money falling on you a lot of songs that pop here
pop money falling on you. A lot of songs that pop here, pop, you have bigger songs like
the local ones like back home, you know what I'm saying? Like for example, a song like
Funs with the Odumodu, it's always going to be bigger than a Vicar and Mané record,
back home, you know what I'm saying? But once you get in the radio here, that's what you're
going to hear. You go in the stores, H&M, that's what you hear. But I'm saying but once you get in the radio here, that's what you're gonna hear you go in the stores H&M
That's what you can't but I'm saying what I'm trying to say is that there's so much more music back home
That is also being digested that you guys don't really really get to hear
So so every time like I'm doing a project. I always keep in mind. Yes
We have to please the Western world and you know, I'm saying we got to make money for the label
But we also have to please the Western world and you know what I'm saying we got to make money for the label but we also have to please our original fans.
Of course.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
Well let's get into the joint right now.
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You've been talking to this man for a whole hour.
I know but he said his name wrong.
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He says Davido.
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Davido.
If you go to Nigeria, it's Davido.
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