The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Da’Vinchi Talks 'Mary J. Blige's Family Affair,' GloRilla Pregnancy Rumors, BMF Vs. Power + More

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

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Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guest. podcasts. Feeling good? It's crazy, Jess not even here. She been saying we need to get Da Vinci up here forever. For like months. And she not even here. Aw, damn, that's my dog. I love Jess. How you know her, Jess? From Instagram? Yeah, Instagram and running into her.

I went to a few comedy shows. I started doing comedy, so I watch a bunch of comedians. And every time I go watch her live, I'm like, bro, she's good. She's actually great. She understands the art of it. Absolutely. How do you just start doing comedy?

Like, what made you? Because that's not easy. We told you you're funny. Oh, shit. No, I started doing a lot of speaking, right? Because mental health stuff and different type of keynote speaking and moderating here and there. And when I was doing that, the audience, they would laugh a lot.

And in my family, I joke around, I bullshit a lot with my friends and stuff like that. So someone was like, yo, I think you should start doing comedy, because it's gonna build a different type of confidence for speaking. And I was just like, all right, bet. Let me just give it a try. So I just started hosting it,

and I started developing a love for it. And I started developing a love for it. And with that, last just, you know, last year I did like 15 cities. This year I started off with one. I'm probably gonna do like 12 more. And I mean, it's fun. I feel like I'm already an anomaly by the grace of God.

You know, I made it out of my situation. It's like, why not just try like whatever at this point, you know? So when you were on stage, like, you know, doing your mental health advocacy, you was telling your story about things that you're going through, and people thought it was funny.

No, no, no, no. What? No, no, no. The way I would break it down, the analogies that I use to have people, especially our community, grasp the concept of mental health, is so I make it in a way that is just digestible.

You know what I'm saying? And then in doing that, you know, people are laughing and I'm just like, you know what, what if I like try to like hit the stage and like just even drag it out some more? That makes sense. I mean, you know, they always say, come here, what do they say?

Tears of a clown, right? So it's like one thing about black people, we know how to turn our trauma into something that either people can learn from or people can be entertained. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, let's go back.

For most people that don't know who Da Vinci is or they've probably seen you but don't know the name, how did you get into the acting business? I'm sure people know you from Power or from BMF. How did you get into- Damn, that's crazy. How did you get into- Same power. I'm disrespecting you.

It's the same. No, it's not. It's totally different. It's the same. I know, it's the same family. Different set, same block. It's the same block. No, different set, same block, though. But how did you get into acting? I know you started off as a rapper, so's the same family. Different set, same block. It's the same block. No, different set, same block, though.

But how did you get into acting? I know you started off as a rapper, so break the people down. Where you from, how you started, and your journey. Bet that, bet that. So I'm from Brooklyn, and I was in Brooklyn, then my mom moved to Jersey, my parents split up, and then so I was in like, orange and north area,

and then back and forth between Brooklyn and north. I was getting in trouble a lot. Then I moved to Florida and then I got arrested and my dad was like, yo, I gotta keep him. I was just a bad ass kid just following the people in my environment, the people around me. And when I was in Florida, I went to all white high school and that kinda changed my life.

That changed my perspective on life. I was seeing things that I've never really saw before so it really just started developing my brain in a different way And then afterwards when I went to college at one point my brother was like bro Like you should we should really like try this like rapid shit in this entertainment. I'm like, but it's impossible It's not what school you went to what college I was a college Central Florida Central Florida. Okay Yeah, and I was like brothers this is bullshit. This is not gonna like be a real thing or whatever I was like, you know, whatever I'm gonna try not gonna be a real thing or whatever. And I was like, you know what, whatever, I'ma try it. And I moved back up north, my mom's in Gloria Carter.

Shout out to her, Jay-Z's mother. She had this Diamonds in the Rough. I don't know if you guys ever heard of that. You had a group? Oh, the foundation? Yeah, yeah, it was like a little restaurant thing, foundation department. Oh, it was in Newark?

It was a Jamaican spot, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was, yep, exactly. It was Caribbean food, yep. In Newark? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, man, people would come there and every Thursday she had this open mic thing, so I got discovered from there.

So I was rapping, doing music there. And then I was in the studio, I was recording a lot, but then after a certain point, I was starting to lose love for it, because it was one thing when you're on the outside looking in, but then when you really start getting into business and you see what they're promoting, what they're pushing you,

the direction that they're pushing you towards, I'm like, bro, I'm not trying to perpetuate this. Like this is really like, people take this serious. So I was like, they all don't like this. At the same time, I was told like, you should start acting too because it's gonna help with stage presence. So I started acting, shout out to Mark John Jeffries.

He was the one, the boy from Lose and Isaiah, and he played 50 in Get Rich and Die Tryin' and Lil Cease. And he was teaching this acting class in New York and I was like, yo, let me take it and I started taking it and then I started meeting people. Shout out to Lil Mama because she was the one like, yo, she was like, yo, come to LA,

like you should be my manager, ah, ah, ah. Then the rest was just history and then by the grace of God, I just started booking consistently. Lil Mama wanted you to be her manager? No, no, no, she was like, yeah, she was like, nah, come to LA and meet my manager. She was like, yo, you talented, you speak different languages, you, no, she was like, yeah, she was like, nah, come to LA and meet my manager. She was like, you're talented, you speak different languages, you rap, you do this and that.

And I was just like, bro, she ain't gonna wanna sign me. And she was like, bro, just go. And then I went and I just started booking consistently. How was the all white high school? What did that do for you? Other than cause you to lose your virginity? Jesus. Nah, it was crazy,

cause you started realizing how broken the environment and the community that I was and was, you know what I'm saying? And then when I went there, people was judging me based off, they was judging my intellect based off how I spoke English. I remember one time I was talking to this one other black dude in my class, and I was like,

yo nigga, you weak. And she was like, you weak is your, Y-O-U, possibly. I was like, damn, and she made this big scene in front of class, and I was like, I said some more. You corrected you on that by not calling her nigga. Right, right, exactly, exactly, exactly, right? That was crazy.

But anyway, I was like, bro, that's all vernacular. We choose to speak like this, you know, because of our environment, but I can speak properly if I want to. But then I started to realize, I'm like, yo, around these white folks, I gotta change how I speak, and I just started educating myself,

and I started reading books, and I just started changing a lot, because I was like, in this environment, my upbringing, it ain't conducive here, it ain't serving me here, I'm just like a criminal. So it changed me a lot. Then I had teachers that believed in me more.

Up north, one of my teachers, they told me literally, I swear she was like, most of y'all are gonna end up dead in jail. This is at Dwight? No, no. Oh, okay. Yeah, up north, yep. In Jersey, actually.

And I should've shut out the school, but I ain't gonna do it. But she was just- You should've shut out the teacher. The teacher, yeah. God damn. Her name was actually Miss Dixon. But she was like, yeah, most of y'all are gonna end up

or in the army or like at a dead end job. I mean, she wasn't lying, because that is what happened. Well, what happened that day that we got her to that speech? Because we was just, we was just. That was acting up in class. Yeah, we was like, I was bad as hell. I'm not gonna lie.

Oh, so you ain't say that now. You gotta get some context. She just came in the back like this. She on the dots like, well, what was that y'all? Y'all ain't going nowhere. No, no, no, no, no, but the thing is, but the thing is though, it's like, she still could have been more positive, because we was just no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no need to be an algebra artist. I was like, what? I was like, I'm not gonna do that. I went from having D's and F's to graduating high school

with a 4.1 GPA. Wow, to your point about the teacher, the teacher could have said, hey, if y'all don't change y'all lifestyle, if you don't change the way you're acting, then you're going to end up. That's how I was always taught to. But did she say that?

And because sometimes you only hear what you wanna hear. All you hear is, y'all ain't gonna be shit. But you missed the first part, which is like, if y'all don't change, y'all ain't gonna be shit. Yeah, ain't missed the first part, which is like, if y'all don't change, y'all ain't gonna be shit. Yeah, nah, you're probably right. She probably did say that, but I just heard like, so I was like, damn, I was like, I ain't bet. I hope she have a TV now.

What you said about the school, I hope she got a TV now. I hope she got a TV now. You know, Steve Harvey allegedly sends one of his, I think it's an old teacher, somebody that told him he would never make it in TV. So he sends them a TV every year. Every year sends her a new TV.

Allegedly, I don't know if that's true, but that's it. Damn, I used to do that. That's hard though. That's a lot of money though. But what you said about the cold-twitching is real because a lot of times they try to give people flack for cold-twitching, but it's not just you cold-twitching. Sometimes you just don't want to reinforce negative stereotypes of black people.

Exactly. Exactly. And I feel like we perpetuate that enough with the media. Like we got to, some of us got to be a good representation of us because we not looking too good. Identity wise though, going from your neighborhood and what you were used to then to this new school and feeling that way, like, yo, I gotta kinda switch it up a little bit.

How did, because you still growing up at the same time. Who were you talking to about what your identity as a man should be because that's such a hard place to be and where you're trying to, you're over here but you come from this, you got family that are still back in your old neighborhood. What was that journey like? I think, honestly, I was just, I was just going through the motions,

you know what I'm saying? So I really didn't have a figure to look towards as an identity for a man. I mean, my older brother, I'm the baby, so my oldest brother, shout out to him, damn, he basically raised us until I went to my pops. But I guess that was my idea of a man and he was this high school phenom basketball player.

So he really was that father figure. So I looked up to him for real, as much as what a man should be. But the rest is honestly, it's by the grace of God. I'm super fortunate. Like I'm well aware that I'm not supposed to be here or really like able to express myself, be disarticulate. Cause the amount of feedback that I receive from people,

I'm like, damn, why you guys so shocked? I'm like, oh, that's cause they looking at the numbers like this it shouldn't happen. You know, so it's just God. Well, that's God. That's what I'm saying. Like, you know, I don't care about no statistics. You know what I'm saying? I don't care, you know? So it's just God. Well, that's God. That's what I'm saying. Like, you know, I don't care about no statistics. You know what I'm saying?

I don't care what you tell me. You can tell me I'm one of 40 million or this many people from my hood ended up like this. What that gotta do with me? Right. You know? No, that's facts. He's a product of grace.

Okay, now I was gonna say, do you remember the first show you booked? Yeah, Marvel, Jessica Jones. How was that? Tell us that story. I love that show. Yeah, I was scared to say. I was just like, it was two weeks after I signed

with an agency and I remember my manager calling me at the time and she was like, hey, she was like, hey, you booked it? And I was just like, what? And she was like, yo, you actually booked it. You actually booked it? I was like, stop playing. And I was like, and I just remember being shocked

and I just felt like Will Smith in that Pursuit of Happiness moment. I was just in the Bronx walking from the gym, the Crunch Gym. And I was just like, bro, this is crazy. I'm like, bro, I ain't telling no one this right now. Refresh my memory. I used to watch all those Marvel shows. So I was this guest star.

Basically, this scientist, my dad was like a scientist. And when I was born, my face was like disfigured and shit like that and then he took me to some lab and then fixed it and then Jessica Jones was trying to find out how did that happen and she was trying to get to my dad so she got to me. And then, yeah, so then she had to like, she used her super strength and shit

and I was like acting like she was mad strong. I was like, bro, this is crazy and the scene took like eight hours. I was like, bro, this shit is long. Nah, I like eight hours. I was like, bro, this shit is long. Nah, I used to watch Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Dead Devil. I watched all of them. Oh damn.

Oh, he was hip. Now you on the Mary J. Blige Family Affair series. The third installment of the series is, what is it called? Family Affair? Family Affair, yeah. How's it been doing that? It's been great, honestly.

It was, that's probably one of my most favorite projects only because it was a role that had nothing to do with being black. It was just existing, you know what I'm saying? And it promotes the family nucleus, you know, in the black community specifically. I feel like a lot of us, you know, we promote things that is to our demise

and to our destruction. So to be a part of a project so early in my career, you know, that is promoting, you know, what happens when having a family, the sacrifices that's being made and stuff like that. I'm like, bro, that's fire, bro. Cause it's done in a way that I feel like, you know, some kids watching this at home probably like,

yo, I want that one day, you know? Cause we've got so much content and material that is doing the complete opposite. So to play something like this is like, bro, I feel like God is like smiling down like, yeah, good know, because we got so much content and material that is doing the complete opposite. So to play something like this is like, bro, I feel like God is like smiling down like, yeah, good job, bro. And when I watched it, all I kept thinking to myself is like, man, he loves her so much.

Like you're- Ben. Yeah, Ben. Not me. Well, you know what I mean. In the movie. Some people don't. He's like, be clear.

For real, that happens where people like- Hell yeah, people be watching them like, oh bro, I feel like you like her really. I'm like, no, bro. I'm like you like her really I'm like no, bro Like I'm doing my job man. Like yeah, well as an actor in them in the family affair. Thank you watching it I was like, wow, he loves her so much But there were times I mean y'all had there was a lot that y'all had to deal with like I don't want to give it Away, but as an EP on the project cuz your EP right on the project

Are you an involved EP where you're making those decisions to show, it was like subtle moments. Like one time I think y'all went to a restaurant and she didn't order something and you noticing, you're like, what's wrong? Because you didn't order blah, blah, blah. Little stuff like that, are you being like, oh, we should do that as an EP? Or is that coming from somewhere else?

That adjustment, no, but a lot of things like, yeah, I definitely like behind the scenes. I'm like, guys, we can't put this out. Like I'm like, bro, this is not, like this don't really happen, you know? And a lot of things like, yeah, I definitely like behind the scenes. I'm like, guys, we can't put this out. I'm like, bro, this is not, this don't really happen. And a lot of times, it was dope because they gave us the creative freedom to say certain things. Because oftentimes stories like this,

a different race is heavily involved. Like there's Caucasian producers that really don't really know some of the intricate details what happened in black community. So they really like sat back a lot of times. It was very like collaborative, you know, shout out to the producers, John, Jordan Davis, Jeremy, and everyone, Bruce and everyone, Mary, of course,

like all of them. And so it was fire. Cause I was really able to be like, nah, guys, like, nah, this is going to send the wrong message. And like they listened. I was like, yo, this is crazy. Like what? Like people don't even know.

Like I really influenced that. Before you was in the business, did you pay attention to the images of black people on television? Because I've heard you mention that a few times. Absolutely. And I thought it was very disrespectful. Personally, like, you know, a lot of times that you meet Europeans or white people

that's really not exposed to black people in this country, they have this preconceived notion that we're like very ignorant. Like the amount of times that people are like, oh man, you're so young and you speak so well. And particularly, I'm like, as opposed to what? I'm like, yeah, I'm like, bro, like, it's like, cause there's that many people that is like,

cause oftentimes what we do, and I've been watching, cause I've been watching y'all for a while, and different things, and I've been like, bro, it's like, they be asking the right questions to the wrong people sometimes, and then they say something like, oh my God, now the world think that's how we all think. And I'm like, no. Hell no.

Hell no, that was a good one. That was a good one, but it's just like, I'm like, bro, you're having people answer certain questions about politics and they don't know shit about it or certain things about it. I'm just like, important things. I'm like, bro, and I'm not trying to sit in

and say I know everything. It's okay to say I don't know. I'd be like, bro, I don't have enough information on this, so I'm not about to just give the wrong information, but when that happens a lot, or the content, I mean, we're looked at as violent as fuck. Like, people are scared of us, boy. Like, bro, our stereotype is just crazy,

and we're perpetuating the hell out of it. Yeah, you're absolutely right, but that's something that was designed since the beginning of time. That's true. Yeah, it's not even about this modern day era of media that we're in. Like literally, the big black man

has been the villain in history forever. Right, right, and to justify slavery and racism and all this stuff towards black people, but I just feel like we don't have to perpetuate it. You know what I'm saying? But a lot of times it's like, because during the reconstruction era, that little short 12 years,

we were outpacing white people really fast in this country. And then that's when the whole concept that black people were da-da-da-da-da, and they started just tarnishing our image and making us look like the most feared thing on planet Earth, right? But then it's just like, and now the only ways we get famous,

I mean the only way we get successful is usually like a situation that's just such an anomaly. You know, like for every, like I love 50, I love hove, I love hove, but like for every 150, for every one hove, you know how many millions getting locked up? You know what I'm saying? Like, that shit's a, you know, that's crazy. Like, for every one LeBron, like to be a LeBron,

but that's.0, God only make a handful of big niggas that can move like that. And so many people really think they can be that. I'm like, bro, you got your priorities fucked up. You're going after something that is far from the majority. You're going after something that is pure favor and grace. And the favor, that's a supernatural advantage that God gave you to really fulfill his will and his job.

So it's like, that's not something that you can really bank on, bro. You know, and it's like, but you got, like we're banking on these things, which is like crazy. You're not wrong though, it is intentional. You ever seen that old movie, it's old though, like it's a demo called Birth of a Nation, and it showed all of the black people,

and basically they were elected officials, and they were like, you know, eating chicken with their feet and licking their fingers. Like it was just, that's where actually the negative stereotype of chicken came from. But they did that because they wanted to show this is what happens if you put black people in politics. And this was like in the 40s, I think it was.

So it's absolutely intentional. And I always think about like after the 90s, cause we didn't, we grew up in a very positive era. We had great representation of us. On TV and music, right? So you had the Cosby Show and the Different World and the Martins and the Living Singles and the Girl. All of these shows showed black people

just being great working class Americans. And it was like an intentional shift to reality television. Right, why do you think that is, Charlamagne? I don't, I ask everybody from the 90s that question. Like I asked, like Michael Jumaan wanted up here, Eric Alexander, I asked him that. Cause it wasn't like it wasn't successful. It was super successful.

Cosby Show was the number one show on television, Different World was number two. So it's like, how does that happen? It was intentional and I, you know. I think y'all know something. I don't. Y'all just not seeing it. I just got here, I don't know nothing. Tell'all know something. Yeah, I just not saying

Tell me what you think Comedy or like a whole nother level start touring, you know, I'm saying make it some ends like Yeah, I'll start I think I know exactly what's going on. I'm playing. I don't. I don't. Well, congratulations, too. Appreciate you. You and Glorilla.

Heard you got her pregnant and, you know, did the nice cute photo shoot and all that. That was pretty dope. Yo, yeah. Glow is funny as hell. Yo, she is so famous. People believe that though. You ain't deny that one. You denied when Lauren brought up whoever she brought up.

You ain't deny, Glow. You ain't say that was exactly. You say her name, Ijana. Ijana. Ijana. No, Ijana, Glo. You ain't say that was exactly. You say her name, Ajana? Ajana. No, Ajana, that's my dog. That's my dog.

But the Glo thing, I mean, it was for the video, right? Yeah, yeah, of course it was for the video. Glo is so famous, bro. It's crazy. People was coming up to me in the streets saying, oh, that's Glo's baby daddy. I'm like, first of all, Jesus. Like, I've been in this shit longer than Glo's been around.

And then second of all, all the people was coming up to me and saying, oh my God, you done trapped my girl. They believe this? They believe this? Yeah, and they was thinking I trapped Glo. I'm like, yo, I make a good salary. I've been making good money before Glo even came into this.

I'm like, you're saying I trapped her? That's crazy, her following is legit, bro. Are you gonna put the ring on her or you just gonna keep it there? Yeah, yeah. Have you ever had more kids on her or you just gonna keep it there? Yeah. You ever have more kids? Nah. That's my only,

I don't think Glo wants kids. Glo is focused on a career right now. That's priority. Who introduced you to just therapy and mental health? Who told you you need to go out there and do some work on yourself? Why did you have people around you that was doing it and you decided to do it?

I think it's my boys that, you know, I got some friends that are strong believers in the Bible, like whether it's their conservative Christian, their Pentecostal, Jehovah Witness, things like that. And in the conversations that we have, oftentimes when I'm talking to them, it's like they hold up a reflection in my face. And it's really good because a lot of times

with certain spiritual things, it's like you can only see yourself spiritually, just like you can only see yourself physically through a mirror or if somebody's telling you there's something waiting for you. If I'm telling you there's something waiting for you and there's no mirrors everywhere, you gotta trust what I say.

So there's certain things that only another person can see that's in your soul. So I think I've been fortunate enough to be around people that they hold me accountable. You know what I'm saying? If I'm acting a certain way, or if I'm just being too fleshly, they bring that to the forefront.

Which forced me to go to therapy at one point. I was like, bro, you could just do it. And I was like, man, nah. Cause I grew up with OGs, where it's just like, they call that shit, all type of soft, weak names. And all them niggas need it. Yeah, exactly. Every single one.

They need it the most, right. And then I went there, and just thinking about certain things from my childhood and the way they was breaking that down and bringing it up. I was like, yo, I'm like, bro, we all need this. And it's like a superpower. It's like the first time I feel like you ever just look at yourself in the mirror,

get a haircut and brush your teeth. That's what it do spiritually to you. A lot of people are walking around like, bro they're so unaware of what's going on and the ironic thing is they think they know so much. It's like the people that's just so far from themselves and from reality, they got the biggest opinions and know so much, but I feel like when you go there,

it kind of humbles you and it allows you to see yourself from a third party perspective and it's healing, man. We need that. In the family affair, you deal with your brother who has mental health issues himself and you try to help him through that. He stops taking his meds. This is a bunch of stuff that happens.

But then also you start having your own struggles because you have a lot of pressure. I remember the first scene when you're in your office and it's like an anxiety attack. And I recognize it as an anxiety attack because we talk about it a lot. But do you have people reaching out to you? Oh, I guess it didn't air yet, nevermind.

Scratch that question. In you doing that, does it trigger anything for you because you had to go through therapy yourself? I'm assuming you dealt with some stuff that was heavy. Kind of like what your character Ben dealt with. Like did any of that trigger you? Definitely, definitely. My life at home is like, it's a tough one.

You know, my brothers go through it and they're going through it. My family have gone, like they're going through it currently, you know, so it's definitely a lot of pressure. That movie in a way was kind of mirroring some real stuff in life. But yeah, I just try to keep good people around to just help carry me and lift me up.

But yeah, it's a lot going on back home. And usually when you're the one that you make it out, so to speak, it's like, it is a blessing and a curse. Because then you start speaking a language that nobody around you understand anymore. And it's like, you're speaking everything but English. And it's the most frustrating thing because it's like you watch the way you can help somebody.

They ask you for advice within the things that you're saying, they're not even taking it. And then you're just like, it's almost gonna drive you into insanity when you're the only one that makes that, and then you're forced to create an extended family. Thank God that we can meet people and have this family, but at the same time, you're just receiving so much shit

from back home that it's like, it's such a fucked up thing. It's not what it's all cracked out to be. It's a blessing, because yeah, you're financially free, but like you've been chasing this financial freedom, but you've been also building yourself in a prison simultaneously. And you're like, damn. Catch Jon Stewart back in action on The Daily Show and In Your Ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. From his hilarious satirical takes on today's

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but that's not like, that's not a real place. I had a real life, you know? So, and I'm so aware that that's not a real place and that's the way I try to separate out of that. And I just, I ride horses, I just do mashing in nature, bro. Like that's the only, and that's what I communicate with God and I read scripture. Like God is the real reason why I'm like sane.

Like the reason why, and I was talking to the Surgeon General about this in the US, Dr. Vivek Murthy. So he hit me up last year to hop on the last leg of his tour, what we are made to connect because of the national crisis right now, the mental health situation. And when we were just having these conversations, man, he was just like, it's literally because

we're not connecting to higher power anymore. And it's like, we literally have, I believe it's like a worship chromosome, like every human being to praise a deity to do this, but what we're doing, we're taking on these burdens in a narcissistic way, and we're carrying a weight that we were never meant to carry. We're trying to fight this battle that's way bigger than us, and when you just put all your worries,

you cast all that onto the Lord, it seems like a lot, but you're like, nah, I'm good, I know, I'm just fighting a good fight, bro. This really is battle, I'm just a soldier. So it alleviates that, and that's how I'm able to just go about my day, by the grace of God, I'm not on any type of certain stabilizers mentally or whatever,

because God is there for me. You letting, a lot of people will let ego lead instead of letting God lead. Absolutely. You know? Absolutely. That's why I always tell folks, man, I believe in God and therapy.

If you're a religious person, it's like, ah, I'm not gonna sit down and talk to nobody. Well, I respect you for being religious, because I'm a spiritual person, not religious, but I believe in God and going to therapy at the same time. And I appreciate that, man, what you preach, because you talk about therapy a lot in your book and interviews and certain things.

I was like, yo, he's not just like, he just don't talk mad shit. Like you really, you. Like how you do it? I used to talk mad shit, so I started going to therapy. Oh, that's what's up, man. 2016, I started going to therapy. And I think whether you want to talk magic, so I started going to therapy. Oh, that's what's up, man. 2016, I started going to therapy, and I think whether you want to or not,

if you're doing it for real, it's gonna change you. Absolutely. You can't hide it. Absolutely. It's like DMX and Belly, when he was undercover, you know, in the nation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was undercover, but it got to him.

It's like, oh shoot. So once you start doing it, it's going to change you, if you're doing it for real. It's inevitable. No, you're right, that's 100% right. Absolutely, now I wanna go to BMF. How did you get BMF? How was that situation?

Oh, man, that was fire. That was actually during the pandemic. So I was fortunate enough, again, man, I hate to keep saying God, but it's the truth. No, no, I don't hate to say me, bro. I don't wanna be that person, but God's the truth. No, I don't want to hate to say me, bro. I don't want to be that person, but God's timing is crazy. So right before the pandemic,

we was blowing up on All American. And then when the pandemic hit, All American got way bigger. It was the biggest show in the world, because everyone's sitting their ass at home. So we got so famous that it was unprecedented. They were gonna cancel the show on CW and Netflix made this show like just a household name.

And in doing that, I had like three different offers for different shows and I saw a BMF coming. I was like 50% and I was like, oh snap, this is fire. But I was like, for a second I thought it was one of the power things, because I'm not gonna lie, I never wanted to do power. I never, only because it's like, I feel like I wanted my first drug thing story

to be a true story. Like I didn't wanna just do it just to do it because when you're doing it, and no shade to anybody that do it, the little Power Boys, Michael and Gianni, damn I love them. I love them a lot, they cool, they cool, they cool as hell.

Like I really, they get a little in stature and just everything. Jesus. But nah, not just that, not just that, but I was just like, if I'm gonna do that, it would be fire if it's like a true story. And I was like, yo, this is two brothers that ran one of the largest domestic drug distributions

in the history of this country. And I was like, bro, this is crazy. And then I did an audition and they knew who I was. And I 50 watched the show All American, the show runner, a lot of producers. And it was like one audition that I like, I tested, and I was reading a long time, Meach, Lil Meach, and it was like, bro, like, you know,

you bring something out of him that's da da da da da, whatever, whatever, and I booked it, and I was like, bro, and I actually went out for B. Mickey and Terry. Wow. Yeah, so I really, yeah, yeah. Did you ever sit with T? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Yeah, nah, that's a real, that's a real dude, man. He's a solid. Wow. Yeah, so I really, yeah. Did you ever sit with T? Yeah, absolutely. Okay.

Yeah, no, that's a real dude, man. He's a solid guy, you know? And he's like an oracle. He's just like this wise OG that just sit back, you know, and then just, he narrate from his perspective, but he try not to get in the way. And honestly, one of the greatest compliments he gave me was when he was just like,

bro, the way he portraying his character, it's fire and even offscreen. It's like when people see you, they see me, and everything that you're doing is such a great representation of me, and I just want to say thank you. And I'm like, to me, that was like an Emmy. You know, like, forget what the critics got to say.

Like, the man that I'm portraying is like saying thank you and you're doing a hell of a job. I'm like, bro, that's crazy. Let me ask a question, because, you know, it is based on a true story, but you talk about the negative images of black people. BMF was a huge drug dealer, so how do you justify playing that role?

Right, no, which is a great question, because I've been asked that before, this interviewer said the same thing, and I was like, okay. And they was like, how do you feel that you're promoting that and you're perpetuating this image? I was like, well, if you watch 824, a Blumhouse film or anything like that, or like a scream,

and somebody is like stabbing someone 57,000 times, do you think that I'm gonna go stab someone 57,000 times? No, and if that's what you're thinking, you probably shouldn't watch TV, right? So what I'm doing is like, I feel like one, you should receive it in the same manner that it's art, but two, it's a true story. It's a true story about black people

that was part of one of the most successful human trafficking in the history of the world. The transatlantic slave trade was one of the most successful human trafficking. Actually, it probably is. Is actually, yeah, the. So you got these two brothers in when slavery was abolished and all this stuff was happening.

Now you got these brothers in the middle of nowhere. Everybody know poverty is the mother of all crime. They know statistics show it. Benjamin Franklin said it. All the founding fathers know that. That's why systemically they put these things in a certain position just for you to fail, right? And you got these brothers that rose out of that,

that created this organization and ran this organization that they ran. And I just asked people, I challenged them to be like, imagine if they had a better environment. That would have been Steve Jobs. That could have been the Wright brothers. That could have been Elon Musk and them.

That could have been, you know, to have that courage and to lead that many men to really listen to you and follow you and salute to you in what you're doing. Especially you. Yeah, right, exactly. What? Exactly, and something illegal too, because you know if we're doing something illegal together,

I don't really got to listen to you because I can tell the cops on you at any moment. But they had, you know what I'm saying? They had an auto, they had a cold. Bro, that's crazy. So I just challenge people to look at it from that perspective and be like, damn, we're a product of, you know,

I still think we live in a great country, but the founding fathers of this country built it on a certain playing field, and you got brothers that rose out at a time that there wasn't positive influences at all. So I think if they were born in different times of better influences, they would have been scientists. They would have been anything else.

100% right, you ever read the book Outliers? No. By Malcolm Gladwell, and he talks about that in the book, and he just talks about how all of these different people at different points in time were like, they were basically being at the right place, the right time, with the right circumstances. So that's how you become a Steve Jobs, a Jeff Bezos.

It was somebody else. Absolutely. But they all came up around the same time. They're all around the same age, but it was just the right place, right time, right circumstances. When you got that kind of mind, yeah, to your point, Meach R.T. could have led any Fortune 500 company.

Exactly, exactly, and that's the beauty in the story, and that's how I look at it. So, I mean, people could say, yeah, you just choose and see what you wanna see, but I feel like I'm seeing it objectively in the correct way. Did you get a chance to talk to Big Meach? Yeah, I used to actually talk to Big Meach a lot, I should actually talk to Big Meach a lot like FaceTime because Lil Meach would be FaceTime on set

While he was locked up and you know and talking to him and he was like, yo, bro They be playing that all-american shit all the time like and this shit like we watch all y'all shit He's cool. So like those guys honestly, they're like that's like Bigfoot, you know, those are like it's it's like foreign creatures that's like, yo, what? Every rapper mention these people, and I'm like, by the grace of God, I'm around these juggernauts, real street legends. And then the hip hop legends, I'm just like, bro, sometimes it feel like a dream,

and I'm gonna wake up and be like, bro, I had the wildest dream last night. You know, it's funny, I remember the first time I saw the BMF documentary, I said to myself, this shit ain't real. I'm like, if this was real, all of these dudes would be in jail.

And then that's what ended up happening. So I hope that, I hope that, but no, so I hope that the show continues on so people can actually see the consequences to the lifestyle as well. I think that's a good teachable moment too. Absolutely, absolutely. And I think that's gonna happen.

I think people's gonna see the ending and what happens. So that way when people are considering this, they know that they could really lose a great portion of their life. Absolutely, well, definitely check out Family Affair. I was gonna ask, are you and Meach cool in real life? How's y'all bond? Lil Meach, we cool.

It's all love. I think we just, he be so busy in his world. He can tell you ride horses, man, and be in nature. I know, but I don't know if you play brothers on the show. Mitch be in the club. Mitch be in the club. If he can get the groceries, he can ride a horse. Nah, it's good.

So he rode the horse after he got the groceries. Or he put the groceries on the horse. Nah, Mitch mean a different world. He mean his own little world. I got love for him, but you know, we just, we be on this side of the planet, I be on that side of the planet. We come together, me in a different world. It means it's all over. I got love for him, but you know, we just, even on this side of the planet, I'll be on that side of the planet. We come together, we work, and we do our thing.

And Lauren, what was that thing about- I was going there. What's your, so first of all, funny Mark O'Shawn, take your girl. Who's my girl? Lala. Oh my God. Can you get tired of people bringing that up to you?

Like just that, because on screen, y'all interaction is very complicated. And then off screen, there's like moments too, it's like y'all was holding hands. Virgin by his concert. I was just being a gentleman. I think she was a little tipsy, and she was like, can you help me walk?

And I was like, yeah, I got you. And I was just doing what, how my mama raised me to be. You'll be turned up, you'll be sending all your checks to La La. Play with OG La La if you want to. You said he been getting checks from the 4Globals Famous be telling sending all your checks to Lala play with OG Lala But yeah, I mean I guess so nothing nothing, cause y'all always say it's nothing there. But even when y'all was on Jason Lee's Sit Down Show, it was a minute ago.

Oh yeah. Yeah, even there I was like, they kinda cute though. Like there's like a little synergy. Nah, that's my dog. Like I think Lai is one of the most genuine Absolutely. Humans in this business. Like, and she got a spirit that is like,

you almost feel like you knew her forever. So when you're around her, she brings out this kid in you. You know what I'm saying? So that's probably why when you mentioned her name, I was smiling and shit. But she gave me great advice, like that's my dog. What's the best piece of advice she's giving you? Personal advice or work advice, whatever.

I think she helped me see situations for what it is and vetting shit, you know what I'm saying? And see the other side, and looking at it from an objective point of view, you know what I'm saying, getting my emotions out of this shit. And then she'll, or if I'm like, yo, I'm having a conversation with this person, what do you think?

And then she'll really call me and give me the inside scoop, or if she don't know, she'll be like, wait, let me find out. And at one time I was, I mean, from the littlest things, to sometimes someone's trying to stay still on my social media, and they were trying to sell it back to me for like, wait, let me find out. And at one time I was, I mean, like from the littlest things to like, sometimes someone's trying to stay still on my social media and they were trying to like sell it back to me for like 200K and I'm like, bro, ain't no way. 200K? What? Yeah, and I was like, yo, wow, like what the hell?

Da da da. And then she hit up Kim's people and they gave me a social media person and then got my shit back in 48 hours. Little Kim's people? No, Kim Kardashian. I didn't know which Kim he was talking about, y'all. It was a lot of Kims. She said little Kim. I didn't know which Kim he was talking about. Y'all is a lot of Kims.

She said, little Kim. Little Kim. You know the Kardashians run that social media over there. Yeah, you're right. And that is her... They're like the feds. How fast did the turnover happen when Kim... Bro, like 48 hours. Oh, wow.

I thought I was done. I was like, oh my god. I'm gonna have to pay this or something like, yo, 48 hours. I don't know what they did. It was like, bro. Were they posting crazy stuff? No, they didn't post it. They was just trying to sell it back first. And then I was, thank God they didn't post craziness.

They didn't. And I don't know how they did that. How did you feel when Power got, I don't want to say canceled, but they ended Power? I felt good about it. I was just like. Damn, man. Nah, nah, I was like, damn, I was just like. Damn, my man. I was just like, nah, nah. I was like, damn, that's such, they out of a job.

Like, I know that fella, but I know they're about to have another spinoff. Like. It's gotta be, right? Yeah, 50 is like, it's like the Avengers, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, just like Chris Evans and the rest just re-signed to Marvel.

There's obviously about to be another Avengers. So, you know, there's about to be something else. It'd be like Power Book III or something. Exactly. I know, they already did three. They already did four too. They did four too, yeah. Yeah, it probably, yeah. It. It'd be like Power Book 3. Exactly. They already did three, they already did four too. They did four too, yeah. Yeah, it's probably gonna be like a new force.

The last episode of y'all last season, y'all were like in the middle of the desert. It was like Mexico or something? Oh yeah. Right, so y'all have another season, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I don't know when it's coming out,

but I'm sure like the first quarter of this year. Got you. How do you feel, and I don't even know if you see this, but like for that last season, a lot of what I was seeing online was people being like, all right, now the storyline is getting unbelievable. I mean, it's TV and film, you know? Like I think they gotta over-exaggerate

and do certain things. I mean, personally, some of the creative decisions, I'd just be sitting back like, ah, damn. But I mean, there's only so much I could do. It was almost like when you're a player on a field, you're playing football, basketball, whatever, sometimes you just gotta run with the route that the coach tell you to,

and it's like, it's bigger than you, you know? And yeah, but I shut up, I humble myself, it's like, bro, I just got in the game, I'm not trying to piss people off. But the BMF story is unbelievable, it just is. I see, yeah. If you watched the documentary, I'm glad I watched it back in the day, and I'm like, this is not real. But the BMF story is unbelievable. It just is. If you watched the documentary, I watched it back in the day,

and I'm like, this is not real. There's no way this shit is really going on in Atlanta. Like, no. Yeah, and he brought zoo animals in the club. For a party, suit to Hannah King. Hannah King, that's the homie Hannah. She did that party. She still does amazing parties now.

But she did that party back in the day. You know, people are still finding cars with money in it. Like, cars that they own, limousines, they find a panel and they have like money in it. I believe it. Yeah, that's, she's like, I'm about to go buy some cars. You about to go buy some cars. What's happening there?

So in this upcoming season, do you figure out love-wise, like where are you, what you doing? Cause you're all over the place. You got, it's like two families at this point. Yeah, I think he's more focused on the money. Like I think, I don't think he's ever gonna figure it out. I think it's still not figured out, honestly. God, man.

Yeah, it's me, like it's not figured out to the point that the real Marquise is getting pissed. You know, like how that story is being portrayed. So I don't think, I think, yeah, like they not, it wasn't really thinking about family for real like that. They was just like, I mean, of course, like they were to a certain extent, but it was like, you know, let's figure this situation out. You know, so I don't even think they really like had the capacity to be like,

yo, we want to like, I'm going to think about really just sitting here building family with this one or that one, you know? But maybe that happens. I don't know. Do people come into your real life upset about how you doing the girls on the show? Because you mentioned that with Adriana. Absolutely. People really just be like, bro, why you do the girls on the show? Because you mentioned that with Adriana. Absolutely. People really just be like, bro, why you doing my girl Sydney like that? Sydney Mitchell. I'm like, bro, first of all,

when you're talking about the show, you use my real name. And then when you see me outside, you use the character name. I'm like, bro, that's kind of crazy. When you're saying, like, yo, Da Vinci was doing this with Lala, that's on the show. But when you see me in real life, you're like, yo, Terry, yo, you, Marquesha. And I'm like, yo, bro, like, you got to stick real life, you're like, yo Terry, yo, you Marquesha,

and I'm like, yo bro, you gotta stick to the, you know what I'm saying, because it sound crazy, but yeah, people all the time, man, mad gangsters be coming up to me like. They be mad about how you meet with Lala? Yeah, absolutely, and then the gangsters be coming up to me like, yo bro, first of all, they be like, yo, what is it like to fuck Lala?

I'm like, bro, that's not real. And they be like, bro, there ain't no way, bro. I'm like, bro, tell me, I'm like, bro, that's not real. And they're like, bro, there ain't no way, bro. I'm like, bro, they brought time, but that's not real. And then they start going into their meets and tea stories. I'm like, bro, like, if you tell me this shit now, I'm an accomplice kind of, you know? I'm like, I'll tell on your ass.

And they just shut up and they just keep it pushing. But like the amount of gangster stories that I have to run away from, bro, I'm like, bro, please. What's your dream role? Probably to play Toussaint Le Vichy or Dussain, they were like two characters that was very influential in the Haitian Revolution.

The Haitian Revolution was one of the most profound revolutions in the history of the world, only because it was the first time black people gained their independence on paper, you know? And it was a small little army that destroyed Napoleon Bonaparte's army, who was known to be the best war general at the time.

So I think it'll be fine to be a character in that story. That's like a real Marvel superhero to black people. They created their own language, which is the language that I speak fluently, which is Creole, which is 75% French in different languages, and they switched it up just so when they're fighting, when it was in the war, the French people can't really understand,

but we can understand Frenchy. So it's kind of fire and I think that story is dope as hell. And that's one of the things that don't ever get talked about. I would love to play a character like that. I mean, that's why they punishing Haiti to this day. Oh damn, Charlamagne, you said it, brother. I did not say that.

It's a fact. Yeah, nah, for real. And you Dominican, right? Yep, yes he is. Yeah, what up, man? He my neighbor. I am not Dominican. He is. I am not Dominican. He just said A-line, nah, for real. And you Dominican, right? Yep. Yes, he is. Yeah, what up, man? I am not Dominican. He is. I am not Dominican.

He just said that. He lying. I'm not. I'm fully black. 100,000%. Oh, what? I thought you was joking. You really thought that?

See, you can't be mad that people think you doing la la wrong, you date la la, and you think he Dominican. Nah, that's crazy. You're Dominican. No, I'm not Dominican. I have no Spanish in me. My parents are black black, like black. You're lying.

I don't speak no Spanish. Nothing. Nothing. I don't speak no Spanish nothing You say every morning on a breakfast level people really think that My dad he's black with me from's black. Where's he from? He's black. Where's he from? He's black. See what I'm saying?

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I already took the phone. Where your dad from? Dominica. It's a Caribbean island. Dominica's a Caribbean island. Dominican is a Spanish.

You're Dominican, man. Cut it out. My dad is half black. And his father's from the island of Dominica. It's a Caribbean island. You're not an FBA bro. And my mother is 100% black. I don't really know why.

Why you say it like that? Actually, I don't want to claim his heritage. That's not true. That's actually hilarious. Nah, it's okay DJ Envy, it's okay. Okay, rep your set. Good to meet you brother. Likewise brother, it's a pleasure to be here with y'all.

Absolutely. Make sure you check out Family Affair premier in January 25 at 8 PM Eastern on Lifetime while Envy looks up his birth certificate. You know what I mean? Look at my picture so you can see my parents. He can't find no picture where he don't look Dominican. White jeans, curly hair, giant jerseys. Knock it off.

It's the breakfast. Did you play baseball? No. I actually played football. Oh, he said football. I's the breakfast club. Wait, wait, wait. Did you play baseball? No. I actually played football. Oh, he said football. I'm from Queensville, so Queensville is nothing but Haitians. And that's your cousins! Dominicans and Haitians are the same thing.

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