The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Day 26 Talks New Album 'Day ones,' Relationship With Diddy; Bad Boy, ‘Making the Band’ + More

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Day 26 To Discuss New Album 'Day ones,' Relationship With Diddy; Bad Boy, ‘Making the Band.' Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:10 The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. Yes indeed. They got a new album out right now called Day Ones. Ladies and gentlemen, Day 26. Yo yo, what's up?
Starting point is 00:02:25 What's up fellas? How y'all killing? Good to be here. Man bless. Good good good good. How y'all brothers doing man? Y'all ain't come up here just to talk about Diddy did you? Nah, we don't wanna talk about him at all.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Alright, I'm just saying everybody, I'm just saying. That's what a lot of former Bad Boy artists are doing now. Okay, new album, Day 1. Yeah, we're talk about day 26. How did y'all stay together so long when you had this industry, every, well almost every group breaks up, there's a problem, there's a situation,
Starting point is 00:02:52 but you guys have been pretty strong for a while. Yeah, I mean God, man. I mean, one thing, like I was talking to Dylion the other day, and he was like, man, like I really like respect y'all like so much because you guys have like been able to still keep Going he was like I wish my group and I would have been able to do that Who's that?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Dylon Oh Dylon Dylon Dylon I'm trying to remember as well Not say his name three times Dylon Dylon Dylon Dylon That's how you remember I'm like three times Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:24 Just to piggyback off of that we got some of the best fans in the world. So no matter what throughout this time, they've been really supporting us, whether it's big or little, you know what I'm saying? And they just support us no matter what. So it helped us stay together and keep us working and all that too. So shout out to the greatest fans in the world. They're 26 fans on day one. 100%.
Starting point is 00:03:40 What's kept y'all together all of these years, just as a collective? I would say the grind that you saw in making the band of these years? Just as a collective. I would say like the grind that you saw in making the band of us even being created as a group, like that was serious. Like we really want to get cheesecake. We really stood outside in the cold and put our all into this. So we take that serious everywhere we go, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And then y'all never thought about like, we just walking home. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I ain't going. But I can tell y'all really, really wanted it. But like nobody ever said like, tell the truth. And then y tell you I really, really wanted it. But nobody ever said, tell the truth. And then y'all were just like, not about this shit. When I got back to clear, through the years, group members fell off and came back and things
Starting point is 00:04:12 of that nature. So we had the hills and the valleys of- Didn't fall off. Of groups, but at the same time, I think the passion behind us and the thing that we're really trying to accomplish out here is what keeps us going. We really like to be in front of the fans. We like to just create the new music and be in front of them all the time. I don't remember him making y'all walk for Cheesecake.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I remember the band. We walked all the boroughs. We did worst in the band. They only had to go to Brooklyn. We had to go to all the boroughs. Cross the George Washington Bridge and all kinds of things. I swear I don't remember that ever. Damn.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah, it was crazy. It was bull. It was bull. It was bull. Yeah, yeah. Never should have happened. Yeah. When, do you think that that show really was trying to set y'all up for success or was it just for TV?
Starting point is 00:04:55 I think it was more, honestly, that show was kind of, in my opinion, it's my opinion. TV. It was TV. It was TV, you know what I'm saying? Not for us though. It definitely wasn't set up for the artists to succeed after.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Definitely wasn't. But they didn't know what he was doing. He know what he was doing. He put us all together. It was only by the grace of God that like, we were able to still maintain and still be here and still do music and not just do music, but do like, still do amazing music.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Y'all heard of y'all? No, not yet. No, we didn't. Oh man. Jess, come on. Y'all like Arbito, right? Yes. But do like still do amazing music. Yeah No I'm telling you yes, I am here. I'm gonna listen. I'm you have today. Thank you. Yes When in the bathroom just I'm dead after tonight. I'm like, why didn't you play on day 26 in the stall? No, it wasn't me. It was my cousin in here, man. Somebody was playing in the new album and they was in the stall. And he was talking, he was like, I need some music while I'm in here. But you said that you feel like TV was made for you guys not to succeed.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Why do you feel that way? Well, the show, I should say. I mean, just the way the whole thing was like set up like even from the contract you know saying the way it was structured to like when the cameras were gone it was like alright guys it was nice knowing you. We had to really go in and fight for our next fight for our next deal like we wasn't already signed you know I'm saying we literally had to have people like B Cox and that really cared about
Starting point is 00:06:27 us and what was the name that we get? Troy Taylor. It took people like that to go to the label like what are y'all doing bro y'all got the hottest R&B group in the world here and y'all won't do nothing with them you know and so that's what it took for us to even get in the door to do another project they wasn't worried about us like that though it was for what it was for. That's they looked at it thought about it for like that but you get people who've been grinding their whole life at certain things so it wasn't just a start at a TV show exactly it was things that you know I was 10 years in writing stuff like right I was signed to walk left at the time and I
Starting point is 00:06:56 was a music world you know what Beyonce's father for years so we was already in the game it was created to make it look like he gave us to like put us learn we learned everything we knew from this situation, everything, but we was vets in the game. We had to get bought out of our contracts. Some of us took to be in this situation. So why would y'all do some of the things, because if y'all were already in the industry, right?
Starting point is 00:07:15 I understand for people that was, this was their first time signing, and why would y'all do some of the things that they made y'all do? If y'all were there, like you were signed, you were signed before, y'all already, your foot was in the door, why would y'all do some of the stuff that I feel was like you were signed, you were signed before, y'all already, your foot was in the door, why would y'all do some of the stuff that I feel was like,
Starting point is 00:07:27 I don't wanna say degrading, but a little degrading, like walk five boroughs across the George Washington Bridge, go get cheesecake, like, and y'all know it wasn't part of the industry, that was just part of the show. I think at that point, it's just, you know, you got your foot in, but you ain't all the way where you wanna go, and you see somebody who's a musical mogul, who can possibly take this thing and take it somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:07:46 So you'd be like, all right, cool, I'll go and take that chance. I think that was more of a chance and we just took it. And then for some of us like me, I always wanted to be signed to Bad Boy. So that was a big thing for me. Like no matter the deals that I had before that or the deal I was currently in,
Starting point is 00:08:01 that's a position that I always wanted to be in. I didn't know what it was before I got into it. But that's where I, when I moved to the United States, Bad Boy was the first R&B hip hop that I even knew or heard of. So it had that kind of influence. And when you got that kind of influence on somebody, especially at a young age, you know what I'm saying? Like.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Where did you move from? Germany. I grew up in Augsburg, Germany. My dad is in the military, so I traveled around a lot. But once I came back here, I wasn't allowed to listen to R&B music like that, because my dad is a bishop. He's a pastor.
Starting point is 00:08:29 So when I came here, I was with my mom, and I got to experience R&B. Bad Boy was the first thing that I really gravitated to. So it was something I really, really wanted. So it's like going after something that you've been going after all your life. And to be in right there, you might do some things that you wouldn't normally do.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Were y'all seeing the previous season, were y'all close with any of the other people like you know like Ness and Chapa and all that. That came after. Okay so they was after that. So during nobody gave us heads up or nothing. Right, that's what we did. So y'all didn't need heads up or heads up. I mean Dandy Kane but they were still doing they were still very well in the middle of
Starting point is 00:09:04 their situation too. So they wasn't giving us that many jewels to really, to make us understand what the situation was. But they did try to tell us a few things and be big sisters to us and, you know, help us out or whatever prior to us finding out for ourselves. I wonder, did people take y'all serious? Because y'all had talent. That was obvious. It was also the antics of the TV show. And I always think about that one scene where y'all was singing y'all ass off,
Starting point is 00:09:25 and Diddy was like, yeah, but y'all gotta get naked. What? Yeah, I remember that scene. Y'all were singing y'all ass off. I remember that scene. Stop. I don't remember that scene. I don't remember that scene.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Because Paul's power. Yeah, it is. Super Paul's. Super Paul's. It's a million things that Diddy say at that time, that now, at the end. It's horrible. Didn't age well.
Starting point is 00:09:45 We went back to watch the clip and you forget how hard y'all was singing. And how good they sounded already. You just remember the naked part but I'm like, yo they actually sounded really, really good. Like what? And ain't nobody singing like that now. That's what also makes it so viral too. Thank you. Damn, y'all niggas, y'all wasn't in no studio.
Starting point is 00:10:03 It wasn't no nothing, no touches on y'all voices, no nothing. on your voice or nothing. Y'all were really fucking singing like boys them in But I mean I'm thinking he was meaning, like, you know what I'm saying, you gotta be vulnerable while singing, right? Yeah, at that time, that was it. But it ain't strong. That's the way I interpreted it. I mean.
Starting point is 00:10:34 It's how they edit it. That's the way I understood it. That's the only way I was gonna continue. Exactly. Exactly how they edited it. Because if you watch the full thing, he explained it a little bit before, like the video that's going around now they cut out
Starting point is 00:10:47 the little part Like no he wants y'all to be open like emotionally open and that's how you get the best Oh, we explain the nakedness. He did explain it but the video that's going viral was just they did they was just saying I made it sound like all right That's what they made it sound like You were like you're Willie I need you naked video that's going viral was just they were just singing. And he was like, all right, that's good. But now you got naked Willie. That made it sound like you were naked Willie. I need you naked, but that's just an explanation. 50 probably made that video.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Look, look. It's just not aging well. Let's just put it that way. It's not aging well at all. Especially with the new allegations of whatever things are. But did that make people take y'all less serious, though? Definitely.
Starting point is 00:11:22 We had a hard time breaking into radio, because people really thought it was just a gimmick for TV. And we had the number one album in the country and couldn't get radio played because, couldn't get radio played because people was literally like, oh, we didn't think y'all need that. Like y'all from, you know what I'm saying? The TV.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And it was crazy because people really didn't give us the chance for us musically because of it. It was like, yo, y'all come into places and people coming to see y'all and y'all selling things out. But y'all don't have a record that was pushing. It was more from the TV success. The DJs and nobody would really give us that full play. Like, yo, now it's real dope stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:55 But we just wouldn't get it just because of the TV show and what they thought we already had. And then going from, because Willie, you went from making a band to loving hip-hop. You did more reality TV. How did that help or hurt? Did that help her take a re-entry? I mean, just steady on the grind of things, man.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I don't think that it helped much, but at the same time, it was visibility, for sure. Yeah, because then we started looking at you as the husband who couldn't get it right. But you know what, the best thing about it is, I'm 17 years married now to this day. Yes, Lord. So you know what I'm saying, no matter if we mess up or the things, as long as we grow and we mature from those things, and we're able to correct our wrongs,
Starting point is 00:12:33 I feel like we get to a better state, I think. And that's why I am now. How much of that is in the new album? What songs reflect that? Is it like, Be A Man? Every record on that album is somebody's story at one point or another. Every single, like it's 17 of the hardest R&B records you'll ever hear. I'm not just saying it because I'm a member of the group.
Starting point is 00:12:54 This is one of the dopest R&B albums in a long, long time. And to answer your question, one of the songs that I think the touch on for me is the record called in or out I think it's really big for a lot of relationships now a days You know how we go in and sometimes we feel like we're here we nodded and we may be in a position to almost lose Our girl, but we fighting back in we don't understand the arguments and things to say those type of things I think all that stuff comes down to that one record in or out. I think it's really really dope Yeah, shout out to the exclusive that the producers one record in or out, I think it's really, really dope. Shout out to the exclusive that the producers have.
Starting point is 00:13:24 They did the whole album, right? Yeah, and they really did extensive research on each of us before they went in and produced the records. They knew about our situations. They knew about me being newly married. They knew about some of the things they went through personally. And so they really worked hard to incorporate it
Starting point is 00:13:39 into the record to make it personal and make it, you know, make it happy. Congratulations, you're newly married. You are three years Oh okay alright well At the time we did it I was only one year and a half in I don't know
Starting point is 00:13:55 I just hit three years but I think that's still kind of newly wed That's the end is good but congratulations Thank you I like what you said about the inner out thing, because I feel like anything that you care about and have cared about for a long time, you can always go in and out of, I don't want to say love, but just in and out of a feeling that you have for it. Like sometimes it feels very intense.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Sometimes it's like, eh. Yeah. No, for sure. I mean, it is. There's a lot of things in life, like, yeah. I was about to say that. And there's a lot of things like that in life, just period. You know what I'm saying? You just got to be, you Yeah, I was about to say that, and there's a lot of things like that in life, just period, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:25 You just gotta be strong enough to kinda ten toes down and stick through it. I'm sure y'all feel like that as a group a million times. Absolutely. No, for sure. We're a prime example of it. We fight, we fuss, we cuss, we do it all, but. And we don't even be, we're not even around each other
Starting point is 00:14:41 on an everyday basis to be able to build that. Chemistry that most groups have, and they're from the same place, like 112, and like boys to men and people an everyday basis to be able to build that You know chemistry that most groups have me from the same place like 112 and like boys to men and people like that when they Able to build that grind they all from one place They able to see each other every time they want we all live in five different places across the United States We even to just get a rehearsal for a show take Take flight Just to have a rehearsal for a show, you know So like then we've been fighting through that by ourselves this whole time.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Y'all a group, so everything is super duper expensive. Everything. It comes to somebody, so it's expensive. I wanted to know when Diddy said... Your entourage is too big, by the way. I just want to say that. But if everybody's talking about one person, it's Tim. I wanted to know when Diddy said R&B was dead back then a couple of years ago and He had y'all was signed to him. How did y'all how did that make y'all feel?
Starting point is 00:15:32 What he said it Man I feel like people like that I mean especially with him having like a huge like Platform and then having a huge part in putting us together obviously It's almost like I Don't want nobody else to love you if I can't have you type type situation So I want everybody crazy crazy crazy analogy like you What did he say? Crazy analogy to use at a time like this. You know what, man? We know what you meant. We know what you meant. Come on, Lally.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Come on, Lally. I don't want nobody else to love you if I can't have you. I don't think it really affected us like that because I've heard Diddy say himself, like, I work with everybody from 112 to that and I've heard everybody from Jodeci to... But yeah, that's who he was signed to. And he's basically like, Day 26 is the best group I've ever in my life worked with vocally. So I've heard him, we've heard him say those things as well.
Starting point is 00:16:29 We were working with him at the time. Did you believe him when he said that? I believe that. I believe he knows that we are, I believe what he said too. And I believe he really believed that. He knows, that's why. I don't think he would care if we weren't, if we weren't capable of doing it.
Starting point is 00:16:41 He said y'all was better vocally than Jodeci? He did, that's what he said. I didn't say that. I'm just saying that. Yeah, he's a liar. He said y'all was better vocally than Jodeci? He did, that's what he said, I didn't say that. I'm just saying that's a lie. He's a liar, I like y'all, but no. No, Jodeci? No, Jodeci, Jodeci, Jodeci. Jodeci and Jojo.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Jodeci is not, be honest. Jojo is the only two singers that we got five million singers here, bro. Jodeci is great, man. And that's my favorite group. Yeah. So I'm not gonna say anything. Okay, I can see that if you saying it like that,
Starting point is 00:17:01 because KC and Jojo the lead singers, and then 112 is usually Slim. What all y'all can sing. But let's just be honest though. Some people do skate off of sex appeal when they're in good hits though. Like I'm not sitting here discrediting Jodeci. Like yeah, we know them for them hits, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:19 But then you got vocalists like motherfuckers that can like sing acapella and make you feel the same way. Yeah. That's why it's the big fuss of who's the best jodecy or voice to men because they both embody the two different sides. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's both of them a vibe. Two things to do at the same time. Both of y'all a vibe. But it's like vocally, like if you can hear somebody sing acapella and make you get that feeling of jodecy when you, you look so like, but then you need the beat, you need everything with that. It's like a vibe. I really feel vocally they are a strong group. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Thank you so much. All of y'all good things. I appreciate it. Can we say, I guess. No, no, no. When I think about it, what you said is true. It's like KC and JoJo were the singers, but all five of y'all can say, I get it.
Starting point is 00:18:02 So what happened to the Bad Boy Deal then? Cause you were still, like you said, still having number one records and everything. So why did it just... So Diddy went through some stuff, I guess, with Atlantic. And we were a joint venture between Atlantic and Bad Boy. And whatever they went through at the time, Atlantic took us from Bad Boy. Okay, so Atlantic kept y'all in... Yeah, exactly. And we weren't able to move forward whatever that situation was with Bad Boy because we had to stay with Atlantic. And when y'all were with Atlantic, did they believe like they should have always been
Starting point is 00:18:29 working? They believed and we worked and then Brian decided to, you know, do some things that made us lose the situation. Man, look at the general. What did you do to Brian? I, I, they like to, look, I'ma tell y'all something, man. We like to tell the truth. Nah, y'all like to fabricate a whole lot, man.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I'ma be real with y'all, man. Like, look, Brian is the bad guy and I'm cool with that. You know what I'm saying? If stuff ain't right to me, man, I'ma be real with y'all. I'ma be real with y'all, man. I'ma be real with y'all, man. I'ma be real with y'all, man. I'ma be real with y' a whole lot. I'm gonna be real with y'all, man. Look, Brian is the bad guy, and I'm cool with that. You know what I'm saying? If stuff ain't right to me, man, I'm gonna point it out. And I'm gonna point it out, and I'm gonna point it out.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And if nothing is being done about it, then I'm just gonna remove myself from that situation. So what happened, Brian? I had to step away, because it just wasn't right. What was it right? Just some business. Well, you should have warned the crew, Brian. So you just stepped away and tell everybody.
Starting point is 00:19:06 We was about to go on tour the next day. No, that's not necessary true. I did not leave the group. We was on a radio promo. Hold on. No, no, no, see. Damn. Y'all see how they tried to make me out to be a DJ?
Starting point is 00:19:15 Now's your time, Dre. Now's your time to put the clear record. Okay, allow me to talk. Okay. Nah, basically, man, I wasn't exactly pleased with the management at the time and I just sent a letter of direction to the company. I record company at the time Atlantic. Mm-hmm. Okay. I Basically anyways, I basically like let them know hey I had new management
Starting point is 00:19:43 So if there's any business as far as Day 26 is concerned, please direct any business as far as Brian is concerned to this person, which is Michael Moosewings. And I don't know what happened after that. From my understanding, people- I know, I seen you as a new artist, solo artist on A1 Records, that's what I saw.
Starting point is 00:20:00 That's what I saw. So you were soloing with him. No, no, no, no, I got browned. No, no, no, no. I got in a solo deal with, at the time, E1. But I wasn't, I was still gonna be a member of the group. I just got a deal as a solo artist. There's nothing wrong with that. But Brian, did you tell the rest of the group?
Starting point is 00:20:16 No. Did you tell the label? No. Did you just not show up? The rest of the group knew I was working. We didn't know that. We found that out when the tour was over. Jesus! Anyway, next time we'll leave. No, we didn't. You said you were on the when the tour was over. Jesus! Next question!
Starting point is 00:20:25 You said you were on the radio. Next question! I'ma tell you something. See the thing is, see Q had already left the group, so we had to go down to four by the time we was with Atlantic. So it was already four of us. I just wanted different names. He already had did something different. So they wasn't finna go through it again with him doing it.
Starting point is 00:20:40 He was pulling the same exact thing he pulled. Like the same letter, everything. He wrote it down here. But Q told y'all, Q tell y'all ain't fucking with y'all no more. Q was very transparent. He started tripping. Yeah, he definitely. Out of the gate.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Different vehicles and everything. Yeah, see that's just because I wasn't messing with management. Exactly. See, same thing. Same thing. I got my own management. I had nothing against the group.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Yeah. That's why I did it. Should've never told y'all y'all was better than Jotis. Yeah, this is exactly why. I hate that dude. I hate that dude. True. Y'all got a promo tour, y'all do a radio was better than Jota. This is exactly what I'm talking about. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Y'all got a promo tour. Y'all doing radio tours. He just don't show up. We had dropped the record, May Love Lately, which is our first single. Without Q, we was in the video, getting busy and everything. We was getting ready to go on our radio promo tour. It was number one most added at the time. Before you continue. Let me finish.
Starting point is 00:21:24 We were supposed to leave on that Monday to start in Detroit. No me finish. OK, go ahead. And then, like, I think we supposed to leave on, like, that Monday to start in Detroit. No, Ohio. Columbus, Ohio. Boom, he got it. They didn't remember. Yeah, because it was real. I had my back pack. That's why I'm like, they had my back pack.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And they were like, yeah. Yo, you sitting down? Yeah, Lenny just dropped y'all. What? What? Just like that? I'm going to tell you why. Damn, Brian.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah, you know. I'm going to tell you why. Somebody got to be the bad guy, always. I'm gonna tell you why damn Brian. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna tell you why Somebody got a bit of a bad guy always I'm gonna say exactly what? Atlantic ended up signing TGT And it was a situation where? Two groups are the same. I mean that I mean they're pretty much the same type of group. Not really no It was all you. Their catalog. It was all you, Brian. It was nothing about it. This is my fault. This is my fault. This is my fault. This is my fault. Tireze, Geno, and Tank, we're in the wrong time. This is my fault. This is my fault. This is my fault. This is my fault. This is my fault. This is my fault. This is my fault. This is my fault. This is my fault.
Starting point is 00:22:12 You're not even insane. There's a lot of false equivalencies happening in this room today. Hey, man, I just admit it. At the time, you was going through some things and you did some things. No, I wanted different management. There's nothing wrong with that. We're blessed with the wonderful name of the Lord, bro. There's nothing wrong with that. We're blessed the wonderful name of the Lord, bro. There's nothing wrong with that. What year was it? What year did you get back in? No, no, this was like what?
Starting point is 00:22:29 May 11th, what, 2012? 11th, I think 11th. 11th? Mm-hmm. Yeah. But that's what happens when it's a group, like, you feel me, because you can't make decisions, because you making decisions for yourself,
Starting point is 00:22:38 but the whole time it's four other people to, you know, fend for and to take an account. And when you bring somebody like a TGT in, they're going to say, all right, we're giving all, especially back there, we're going to give all our resources to these more established artists. Who have made it individually. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:53 When you come together for a group. And that's exactly what happened. But obviously, they ain't going to put it off on me. So you know what, guys, I'll take that. You know, bow. So who called Brian after? Because I know one of y'all called him like my nigga. We didn't talk for a long, long, long time.
Starting point is 00:23:04 So how did y'all finally talk? That was our, at the time, that was everything. That was our bag, we had his back ears. After we thought the label wasn't paying attention, we then went to Atlanta and recorded this bomb album. We were just ready to kick the door in in a way that wasn't for making a band, you know, for people to take us serious. Fight Brian.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And we was finally in that position. Fight Brian, don't let them do you like this. I don't fight no more, man. No, don't let them do you like this. I don't need physicals. I don't need physicals. I don't need physicals. I don't need to fight for your credibility right now. No, no.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I'll tell you this. Why would I shoot a music video? Why would I go to 106 and Park and premiere the video with the guys and everything and not plan on being a member of the group? Because you didn't know what your actions was gonna lead to, bro. You just did something.
Starting point is 00:23:44 So basically I'm supposed to just sit around and... I'm not doing it right. Hey, we didn't ask. Next question. I'm not doing it right. It wasn't intentional. You didn't mean to do it. I'm gonna know what was gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:23:53 No, man. I just wanted my business handled, bro. There we go. I can call the squad. Bro. Are you the youngest? You the baby? No.
Starting point is 00:24:01 You the oldest. Are you the what, nigga? What? Oldest? Oh my God. Q, why did you leave? What was... Why did you leave? You know this are you know what nigga? What was why did you leave initially well if you watch making a band for like the last season you saw that I was like Tripping about management. I remember that business. So that's why when we went to Atlantic I was like, oh he's still involved. No Who the manager at the time? Okay. Who was the manager? I remember. It's the angel. Yeah. Now you want to be the oldest. Now you want to be the angel. Now you want to be the oldest. Now you want to be the angel. Now you want to be the oldest.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So how, so when I came into your business, how did y'all eat during that time? I know you dumped 11 hip hop, cause you was like, the bags was there, this was out, this was my life. So how did y'all eat from that? You I know you jumped in love with Hip Hop, because you was like the bags was there, this was my life. So how did y'all eat from that? You just get dropped, Brian's not effing with y'all, you're not talking to him, so how did y'all eat? Because y'all a group. I mean, God is good because we had a lot of exposure at that point where we could find money
Starting point is 00:24:56 in the same industry. Like for instance, even still now I work for the Board of Education in New York for New York Black Arts, I do off-Broadway for all the schools in the area that children can't pay all those money for Broadway tickets. So we bring Broadway to the schools and stuff like that. So I got into, I got involved in that more,
Starting point is 00:25:15 that end of things and still producing and writing for people. People always, once they see you on TV and doing your music thing, people always gonna come and you always gonna be able to have a bag if you know how to work your craft. What about you, G.O.? There you go, Mike.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Oh, of not being with the group? Yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo. What's up, Michael? What's up, big dog? How we at? To be honest, it was a very hard time for me. They just kicked you out the group by the way.
Starting point is 00:25:37 They was just talking shit about you too, Mike. They kicked you out the group. I gotta keep my bag. Nah, it was a very hard time for me. This is a time where I went through mental health. And I'm healed now, but I went through so much of not being in a group and some other stuff too. It's just was a time of kind of like me trying to recover.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Did you go to Taffy? Yes. Good job, my brother. Still do. Me too? Yeah, absolutely. I wanted to ask Rob, because you said something earlier,
Starting point is 00:26:07 you said that Diddy didn't really know what he was doing, which is shocking, because of all the success he's had with R&B groups, like before y'all, it wasn't Jodeci's, it wasn't 112's. What you mean when he said you didn't know what he was doing? Well, I just think it was more divine. I think God had more to do with it.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I believe he knows good talent, he knows how to put it together. I just don't think he thought he was putting together this, that five, I mean that all these years later, whether he's involved or not, no matter how much we've been kicked down, that we still gonna overcome, you know, from these five different places in the world.
Starting point is 00:26:36 That already put a big wedge between us to be able to be successful, be able to get rehearsals in and stuff like that. So I just don't think he really knew, I don't think he was really in control. That's just my spiritual opinion. You know, I think that- You know what I hate, you guys?
Starting point is 00:26:49 I hate a passionate person that doesn't have a good work ethic. And I think we're all passionate and have great work ethic. And I think that keep us together too. Yeah, common though. You think Diddy don't have a good work ethic? Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:27:01 No, I wasn't saying that at all. I think he meant as far as other groups and people that can't keep it together or anything like that. Other groups and other artists. Got you. Sometimes they have the passion, but they don't know how to put the work in behind it.
Starting point is 00:27:10 They don't wanna get up early in the morning or, I don't know, they just don't wanna put the work in behind it. Well, what did y'all learn from Bad Boy in those days that y'all are still able to apply to now? Man, there's always somebody trying to take your spot. Always somebody trying to take your spot. I'll never forget that. Always. Ever. Always remember that always somebody trying to take your spot. I'll never forget that.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Ever. Always. Always remember that somebody always trying to take your spot. While you sleep, somebody else is working harder. You know what I'm saying? I think that plays a huge part in us still being a group as well. The sad thing is what you said some earlier that because it was a reality show and TV show, I don't think people took y'all as serious as they should have, right?
Starting point is 00:27:44 I think we did that with everybody. I think we did that with Daddy D. Kane. I think we did that with the making of the band, Crew, with Dylon, Dylon, Dylon. Even on the crossover, Ruben studded in Fantasia. Fantasia's kind of the only one that we really accepted to, but Ruben, I don't, we loved him. I disagree with that.
Starting point is 00:28:00 But after he came, he never fucked with Ruben. I disagree with that. I was a fool. His new album, I just heard his new album. He's working on a new album now. It's phenomenal. The reason I disagree with the analogy he's making, because they didn't make people on American Idol
Starting point is 00:28:12 do the things that they made y'all do. Exactly. American Idol was always treated as, this is going to be the next superstar. This is going to be America's next top superstar. They didn't have him walk into Brooklyn. Yeah, it was kind of like a almost like a degrading type thing. It was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You know what I'm saying? Like, I just... And at the time, it's crazy, because at the time you don't see it that way. You don't. I mean, you just in the fight and you like, you know, the competitive nature and you was like, nah, I'm just gonna win. You know what I mean? No matter what it is, you know.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I think it makes you, when you competing, it make it like that too. Like when you competing against somebody else, it's not really thinking about what you doing. It's just thinking about beating the next dude. Beating this guy. You know what I mean? Whatever it it is he ain't gonna beat me it was like that for the first album too when the group was picked y'all still in competition mode not me if when when Brian left the group did y'all did they well you didn't have the option but did you think about replacing them no no our
Starting point is 00:28:59 fans wouldn't have that yeah that's what we felt we just felt like with them watching us grow on TV and come together it had just been hard to be like yeah, and here's this new guy. Yeah, he ain't get no cheesecake I feel like that's a lot of other groups try that and it failed but no addition did great with it when they put John in Yeah, that's Johnny Somebody didn't lose nobody to him. They just added an to it they didn't like get rid of one of the people Bobby left, Bobby left Bobby left, yeah We watched a lot of other groups like even We did see Destiny's Child leave
Starting point is 00:29:31 Yeah That works for them too That worked for them too You put a vote me on the island for that You gave it like the only two groups that ever they worked for But the differences go back to the point like all of y'all are vocalists You can do that in Destiny's Child, because no disrespect, you know, Latoya Luckett can sing, but Latoya can sing,
Starting point is 00:29:49 but they weren't considered the lead singers of the day. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. Mike, what was your take when Brian left? Because everybody's saying it was completely Brian's fault that they got dropped from Atlanta. Oh yeah, when he left, it was his fault. Damn!
Starting point is 00:30:02 What? It was his fault. It was unanimous. Yeah, it was him. It was! It was his fault. It was his fault. It was unanimous. Yeah, it was him. It was him. I'm gonna say that. All of them. Somebody always gotta be the bad guy.
Starting point is 00:30:10 That's all good. It was his fault. That's okay. That was you. That's okay. I'll accept that. So I was gonna ask who was the biggest, you know, diva of the group back in the day,
Starting point is 00:30:20 but I think we've got that answer. No, no, definitely not me. What is you? What is the definition of that diva? Late, bougie. I'm never late, never bougie. I gotta stay at a five star, gotta fly first class. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:30:35 That type of person, who you looking at? Who you looking at Brian, who was that person? Oh I don't know, I was trying to see. At that time I don't know, I don't think we had that. Look, Day 26 new album Day 1 is available right now. I was gonna play it for you. It's available right now. I do want to talk to y'all about, I know when the Bad Boy reunion tour happened y'all weren't there,
Starting point is 00:30:55 but then y'all did y'all own thing. Did they even invite y'all? Yeah, we did. Yes we did. They didn't invite you, Brian. We gotta invite him. Everybody hit him. you, Brian. We got invited. Everybody hit him. Brian! I'm so sick of hearing men talk about women's basketball. If only there were
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Starting point is 00:34:08 Follow all the big changes and what they mean for you. Make America affordable again. Listen to The Indicator from NPR on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get podcasts. Hey, it's Brian. Brian went on the radio and said something to Puff. But you said to Puff. Man, I just basically was like, yo, I just find it kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:34:27 That you got all this baby oil. I don't know anything about that. But I just said, pause. Back to back. Pause. No, I absolutely know nothing about that. I just felt like it was weird that like, yo, you got a whole Bad Boy tour going on. It wasn't like in the beginning stages or talks or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Nobody reached out to us before or anything. The tour was on. So nobody reached out to us. And I felt that it was kind of weird because like, yo, I felt like we played a huge part. Yeah. And you know, I mean, especially in like of weird because like, yo, like, I felt like we played a huge part. Yeah. And you know, I mean, especially in like the, you know, the. So all it was was he didn't know. He didn't know.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Well, they reached out to you. Well, communication rules the nation. Okay. Hold on, let him get it. He didn't know. Transparency, brother. He had us on like certain dates. So like all the major markets,
Starting point is 00:35:21 he wanted us to come in and fill in on those. But then once he was putting it together, because we was doing like the big autograph signing and things and sending it in for the merch. And once, like a week later, Brian did an interview and saying, you know, we need to be on there. I don't know why we're not on there. And then he was like, yeah, he was like, who the fuck
Starting point is 00:35:41 you think you talking to? He was like, you know who he is. He went out, he was like. He's always like that to me. Harpere called me personally, he was like, hey man, tell think he talking to? He was like, he know who he talking to. Harpierre called me personally and was like, Harpierre called me personally and was like, hey man, tell your boy Brian to shut the fuck up. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, well, he's like, we already got you on tour,
Starting point is 00:35:51 but Puff don't want to put y'all on there no more because he heard what he said or whatever like that. Wow, man. There's a lot of shut up, man. I'm the bad guy saying hello to the bad guy. I don't understand the miscommunication though, because that's just a conversation. No, no, no, no. Real simple, right? Now, he said all that, right? I don't understand the miscommunication because that's just a conversation
Starting point is 00:36:25 Now now he said all that right that's my first time hearing about all that no, it's not bro I'm not gonna let you. No, man. I'm not gonna let you. No, man. I'm not gonna let you. No, man. I'm not gonna let you. No, man. I'm not gonna let you. No, man. I'm not gonna let you. No, man.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I'm not gonna let you. No, man. I'm not gonna let you. No, man. I'm not gonna let you. No, man. I'm not gonna let you. No, man.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I'm not gonna let you. No, man. I'm not gonna let you. No, man. I'm not gonna let you? Like that's why I'm saying like communication is key to everything, every relationship, every business, everything. Communication is key to everything and there was no communication being brought to Brian.
Starting point is 00:36:55 So if somebody knew in a group why nobody tell you? That's a great question. I didn't know. That was management. Oh, okay. Management knew. But y'all brothers though, forget the management.
Starting point is 00:37:06 No, no, no, management told us. Not to tell Brian. No, no, no. I don't understand how Brian got left out of that. Because again, this was weeks of him telling us this and we were in the process, like, we were in the last phase of like doing the autograph signing. To be a part of the tour.
Starting point is 00:37:28 So I don't understand how he slipped through the cracks and everybody else didn't. But we have management. Management is supposed to communicate to everybody else. Communication, right? Every executive at Bad Boy is lying if they act like that band era of Bad Boy didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Right. All of it, we grew up on it from the band to Danny D. Kane to Day 26. It saved part during that time. Yes, absolutely. That's what I felt. So I'm like even with that era being watched even from that tour was like, what you doing? It kind of put us back in mentally to think like,
Starting point is 00:38:00 okay cool, we already knew he was coming from a television show, but he even kind kinda stamped that more for us at that moment. Like damn, bro, you really thought of it just like a TV show. And the rest of this music shit is what you're doing, but you just trying to erase what we brought. So that's why it's really strong that we still here, because it's without no extras,
Starting point is 00:38:19 it's because we really passionate about what we doing, it's because we really believe, and it's because the fans really receive us and they come out. Other than that, what do you make sense? People try to stop us too. We had some roadblocks along the way, like some big opportunities that kind of just like kind of fell through and we don't know why. So we still fighting those kind of adversity too, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Like what Robert? I mean, deals, I don't know if I should really I mean, but I mean Basically deals that we had that you know that we know We would actually end it, you know, just magically. Yeah like labels endorsement Contracts already signed in everything after after the bad boy after Atlantic we had more opportunities because people saw and they believed like, yeah, y'all ain't got a deal. So we started having so many conversations. We had a situation, we was actually signed to another major. And as we did like a press release to let the world know, the next day, the next day,
Starting point is 00:39:18 we ain't have a deal no more. What label was that? I don't remember that. I mean, we can't speak on it right now. That's because it was shut down. Look that up, Laura. Yeah. Oh, contract. What label was that? I don't remember that. I mean, we can't speak on it right now. That's because it was shut down. Look that up, Laura.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Do you feel like everything that's happening with Puff right now is karma for some of the stuff he did? I don't know. I mean, God don't play about me, man. So I mean, I don't know. It's a lot of things that he's done. I don't know what he really did and didn't do. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I do got to ask a question though. Earlier today we heard a guy say that, did he like to record in the shower? Like in his bathroom. He set up equipment. Have y'all ever? That's why he wanted y'all to get naked. Have y'all ever recorded in the shower or the bathroom?
Starting point is 00:39:56 No. Hell to the no. I have no idea what you talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't. That's crazy. I'll do about half of the stuff they said out there, bro. I ain I never experienced it myself because I feel like As a grown-ass man some of the stuff you just shouldn't experience anyway, and I'm a grown man
Starting point is 00:40:12 If it's only so much so far you can influence or push me or Set up all the equipment like they usually would shower What he said. I don't know. I don't remember. I don't know. I did just watch the new... You talking about with Sarah Stokes and all of them on there? That one?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah, that's the one on HB Max. That's the one on ID. ID channel. The ID channel. It just came out like a week ago. I mean, it's like 10 of them but the one that just came out a couple nights ago on ID. Oh, the one that just came out. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he said it recorded and did he want it to record in the shower because he said he got it was a vibe in the shower. That's what he said. Rip two stories. I'm going to be honest. Recording music? Oh, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I just want to say to be very transparent with y'all, I've been through so much trauma with this guy, man, and the whole situation. And I just want to say I think he needs a lot of prayer and he needs mental health like the things that that we can relate to you know absolutely I think that's what's gonna save him or help him nothing else I don't think we should talk about him I don't think we should make fun of him it's like real sit that's a lot of the stuff is funny though it is I agree with you Q I'm with you 100% but it is a lot of the stuff is funny though. It is funny. I agree with you Q. Just some things. I'm with you 100%. But the point is, it is a lot of comedy.
Starting point is 00:41:46 A joke is a joke. But there's also a lot of trauma there. You mean? It's funny. I'm sorry, but it do be funny. Sometimes that's all you can really do. I just didn't mean to. You just laugh at it.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Just not all of it. We know you're talking about all of thousands of bottles of baby oil. Bro, it's funny. But you know what it is Q? A lot of times, man, you see people. A lot of times when we talk about people's trauma, it makes it feel like we're making
Starting point is 00:42:07 excuses for him, but it really is, that really probably is the root of all of this shit. You know, like hurt people hurt people man. Here we go, here we go. But no, you're definitely on this, I'm like, you know, just praying for him, because obviously the latest documentary, which is why we was asking y'all about it, it actually dives into his childhood and how he may have gotten to the state of, which is why we was asking y'all about it, it actually dives into his childhood
Starting point is 00:42:26 and how he may have gotten to the state of where he is or where he was. Now I seen that in the making of A Bad Boy. Something like, my man know him. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And they got the show like, you know, his past with his mom and how things that he was previewed to at such a young age and how it may have a lot to do with how he liked these conversations. But how did he, if you don't mind me asking, you don't gotta answer, how did he traumatize you personally? I can't talk about it right now. Gotcha, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:42:54 But you will find out soon. Oh, wait, wait, okay, okay. The reason I say I do like these conversations is there's a lot of young people that's trying to get into the industry. And a lot of times if we don't tell these stories, you know, people are gonna joke, it's regardless, but a lot of times if we don't tell these stories,
Starting point is 00:43:09 people don't see it, right? Because from the outside, you know, we see Diddy on television a lot, and a lot of it seems for TV, but you guys have been traumatized by it, and his other members have been traumatized. So if we don't, a lot of times, we don't tell those stories, the next generation of artists that's coming up
Starting point is 00:43:26 have no idea. Right? You know what I'm saying? What you just said, man, is why I got so much respect for the new generation of artists, because they found a way to not need labels and do these things that become famous on their own. So right now, bro, I guarantee you nobody can get on TV
Starting point is 00:43:40 and do it and make it a band, because these little kids will whoop your ass and you get on there to go get some cheesecake or talking to them the way Diddy was talking to us and stuff like that I'm not taking nothing away from ourselves we just had respect for our it was a different era these kids ain't letting that happen and to the point of where Envy was saying like yeah it is good to tell these stories I understand it's hard for you to tell yours right now but it's good to
Starting point is 00:44:00 tell them because what did you say you said you came from Germany when you got to the States that was the that you wanted to be sound because what did you say? You said you came from Germany. When you got to the States, you wanted to be signed with Bad Boy. You didn't know about all that other stuff. All you knew was this guy, he made this person hot. This person, he produced this record and he had Biggie and he had all these, you know what I'm saying? So you wanted to be a part of the start-up.
Starting point is 00:44:17 The very first concert I went to was the Bad Boy. Right, right. So that's also why these things are important too. It's not about, like it is. Yeah, and is it hard, right? Like, you know. Hard, what you talking about is hard. And cut it out.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Listen, when Q say, you had trauma from that dude way before in the 80s allegations, right? So when you got to do interviews and you know these questions are going to come up, does it trigger things? You deserve that first. To be honest, and it used to in my documents that I have for my mental health I have his name mentioned in there but it used to traumatize me a lot to where everybody thought something was really wrong with me
Starting point is 00:44:58 and stuff but I just won't blame him I blame people around him too because they ain't innocent either so it's a it's a lot man. That's the thing like him, I blame people around him too. Because they ain't innocent either. So it's a lot, man. That's the thing, like you said, Enable is people around him who are, you know, whatever happened we don't know because he's not found guilty or anything like that. But the people around him that's allowing it to happen, a lot of times those people are just as guilty.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah. I just said they are. I've seen something and never said something. Say something now, I've seen it. Well, how come you didn't say it then? You could have saved that person, or you could've helped that person. So when we see things like that,
Starting point is 00:45:27 that's why I always feel like it's good to talk about things where people understand, because a lot of people don't understand the industry. They just see the gold and the glistens, the cars, the mansions, the jewelry, the clothes. They be like, this is what I want. But a lot of times they don't know how that happened. So when you hear the Aubrey O'Days
Starting point is 00:45:42 and the D-Woods talking, how did that make y'all feel? I mean, for me, I just seen, and I really didn't know, so when you hear the Aubrey O'Day's and the you know, the D Woods talking how did that make y'all feel? I mean for me I just seen and I really didn't know you know I'm saying if for us to be so close with them for us to be so close with them and Experience so much with them. Yeah to not know that they was experiencing those kind of things They're kind of that was weird to me because I had literally never heard nothing like that about any of them While we were there now we experienced some of the stuff with him, you know, firing them and all of that stuff. But as far as like, you know, the stuff that Don, that D Woods and then was talking about like body shaming and, and that other things like with Sarah, with Sarah
Starting point is 00:46:17 Stokes talking about, with Sarah Stokes, I'm talking about, but it was further, it was further than that. Like she went, like Sarah Stokes'm talking about everybody, but it was further it was further than that like she went like Sarah Stokes was talking about How he touched her inappropriately those kind of things like that? I never really experienced those and I never seen them act that kind of way, but that could be days mask or they shield I'm not saying it did but I'm just saying as they brothers they never they never Disclosed those kind of things with us and the sad thing with men, but y'all knew your brother was going through something So when when he ended up coming back to the group, that's when we started to understand things was different and seeing a different walk and understanding what it was.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Because when I left the group, I went to sing background for Dirty Money. Right. He was on stage with them on the news at the time. I was looking at the news like, why is my group member singing backgrounds? Yeah, so he stuck around a little bit longer inside that formula versus us leaving and doing Atlantic thing and trying to figure that out. So when he got back, we did notice different things or whatever, but he's a lot better right now.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I'm glad you're a lot better, Q. I was going to say things are changing because when men deal with things, it's usually funny at first, right? No matter what it is, I'm not putting your stuff out there, but Charlamagne talks about a time when he was a kid that something happened to him. And the first reaction when he tells that story, people laugh.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Right? I couldn't believe that though. I couldn't believe that. When Kool first taught you how to DJ, I laugh about that too. There's nothing there. See? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Nothing. Nothing. He's a man. He's a man. He's a man. He's a man. He's a man. He's a man.
Starting point is 00:47:43 He said when Kool first taught him how to DJ, he was standing at the bus stop sucking on a lollipop. Koon pulled up in a nice car and he was like, damn, that's a nice car. The stick and Koon. When you was little, you was around your sisters in the room and all that. And a new addition popped up on the TV and Sean was like, Michael Bivins, that nigga cute. And your father was like, smash your ass up.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I'm like, hold up, boy, what you talking about? That nigga cute. That's true. Or the picture of you sitting on Wendy Williams lap. Oh, I was talking about the clue teaching you how to DJ because he came up behind you. See? He did.
Starting point is 00:48:21 He did. He talked about that. He talked about that. He talked about that. That's true. Now, this is a good segue to ask'm glad you're on the screen. I'm glad you're on the screen. Now this is a good segue to ask y'all about freak offs. You ever been in any? Hell no, man. No, sir.
Starting point is 00:48:31 No, sir. I'm gonna be honest, man. Say it again. No. Never. Uh-uh. I think the only time we've ever. I've seen the door to a couple, but never walked through.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Never walked through. We're blessed to be warned about a lot of the stuff before we were ever in opportunity off camera to be involved in it. So we already knew what not to do, where, you know, whatever the case may be. I don't know what was exactly going on in those things, but we were definitely warned not to go.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And also I think a lot of people know- Who put y'all in the game? Oh man, just a little birdie from the show. Right. From Bad Boys, just to show it. A couple of actors told us about it. A dancer. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:12 He was probably speaking to it. Like, hey man, stay away from the red door. Got you. Told us to stay away from the red door, so that's kind of a big thing. Yeah. I would not want to go through what y'all went through, bro. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Like that, like. Who gave y'all the name Day 26? We did. Okay, so y'all, okay I thought that was like, that he's saying like, man y'all Day 26 is not a day 26. Nah, he tried to take it from us. The day we came up with it, he tried to take it from us and change it to 26 Day and we like nah, we ain't.
Starting point is 00:49:37 26 Day, okay. August 26th, oh man. No, the name came from us being selected on August 26th, so we just took that. Through the years, you know,, we heard, we were like, okay, it didn't age well at some point. It does great now, but I'm saying, at some point we had people like, yeah, you've been around for 26 days.
Starting point is 00:49:53 We played into it a little bit. At the same time, it came from August 26th. Or when somebody missed it, they'd be like, oh, they're 23 now. God, you got it. The day that changed our lives, it's a day that we'll always remember. Was it a blessing or a curse, though? It was a blessing. Honestly, man, no, that changed our lives. It's a day that we will always remember. Was it a blessing or a curse though?
Starting point is 00:50:06 It was a blessing. Honestly, man, no, man. I won't even put nothing negative on this, man. I mean, God's still, he's still working on this. It was a blessing. It was a lot of curses there. Because a lot of, we cut a lot of money. With the blood, baby. A lot of money, but at the lot of money you know but at the
Starting point is 00:50:25 same time we still got our passion we still got our voices we still got our fans we still got our to do for our families we're here we're making a statement so all those things still matter you know me so that's why I would say throughout all the curses that could have been throughout the years we ended in a blessing yeah and my last question okay so y'all got this album out now. Will y'all be touring? Absolutely. Okay, and did he recoup anything from y'all now?
Starting point is 00:50:51 No, not at all. So y'all are no more not tied to this man at all? Well, technically, did we talk about our publishing? Well, he still got our publishing from those albums. I thought he gave it back. But he didn't give us anything. We didn't sign up for it. He got on there and said he gave it all for us.
Starting point is 00:51:04 He didn't even offer us. No, he didn't. He sold it to Sony. He didn't even offer us. He sold it to Sony. No, he didn't. And he can give it to us now. You know, make the calls or whatever. But we do we. And all the other money they sold. Yeah, yeah. How much you think he owe you?
Starting point is 00:51:12 Right now his kids got all that money. Yeah. On our publishing, they say his kids name and his mama. No! Yeah. Hey! Every time I see everyone, I be like, man, he's. Oh, Lord have mercy.
Starting point is 00:51:23 So the publishing, it's in his kids and mom. But at's not what he said I was giving all my artists back there publishing we wouldn't Set right here and said it we got Everybody back yeah, he probably did something I was talking to all be doing the time and she was telling me a lot of things I guess she had got off of the situation and she was saying how it wasn't worth it anyway She got Everything I'm know you guys figured it out with accountants and all that how How much you think is owed? You know what, the thing is, even off the show alone, they made millions of dollars. Yeah, it had to be like 70 to 100. It was a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:52:15 We just, I mean, I don't know the exact number. The first album was 15 million. Yeah, we just, it's 15 million. Well, that's what they told us. They only told us 15. They told us. The first album. That's a dime. I was about to say what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I get what you're saying. It made 14 million. I didn't say it sold 14 million. I said it made 14 million. I'm from TLC. I'm going to TLC. I saw what he was hitting. I'm like, no, he's gonna go deep like 14 million. Let me call my kid.
Starting point is 00:52:51 We did not say 14 million albums. We didn't say 14 million albums. You made that much money. We were dole, but we didn't go, you know. That's what Diddy would say. Diddy would say, we spent so much money on them, we put so much into them, we didn't recoup back what we put in it. But I would disagree, because our situation was tied to MTV that was paying for so much money on them, we put so much into them, we didn't recoup back what we put in it. But I would disagree, because our situation was tied
Starting point is 00:53:06 in with MTV that was paying for so much stuff and on their end anyway like that. It took so much cost off of Bad Boy and Atlantic that didn't make no sense, so that makes no sense at all. They didn't have no cost. They wasn't spending no money. As a matter of fact, they was getting their budget from having us on Bad Boy.
Starting point is 00:53:21 They did a sub-label, you know what I'm saying? So that's impossible for that to even be business wise. Y'all know business, they don't go like that. So you think so many people had their hand in the pot that that's probably why y'all couldn't get no money? They ain't. You talking about MTV, Bad Boy, or the Interscope or Atlantic?
Starting point is 00:53:35 Atlantic. Atlantic. Like everybody, the writers, the, like everybody that signed up, like they got. They all rich right now. Yeah, he might've owed somebody a favor or something. They got theirs out of whatever it was. But we knew what we were signing into.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Well, at least I did. And we had to sign. So what did he change the publisher? Because it wasn't in his kids' name at first, right? No, it was always. That was from the jump. From the jump, it was in his kids' name. So he already knew it, which, I mean, I get it.
Starting point is 00:53:58 He a father, and he got kids. But at the same time. Don't erase my name. They did. I'm a father, and I got kids. Exactly. And that's what it comes name. They did. I'm a father and I got kids. Exactly, and that's what it comes after. Because I'm a father and I got kids. You're right.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And now we want to be able to do for our children the same way, you know what I mean? So give me my money. That's all I care about with the whole ditty thing. Man, I just want my money, bro. I just want my money. I want what I'm worth, the albums that we sold, and the way I should be living.
Starting point is 00:54:23 And I don't want to see your kids rolling around in a car better than mine Off of my music, off of my stuff, you know what I'm saying, that's just weird how do you even have that conversation and justify that with somebody And they're from Germany so you come in a whole different way So they say yeah, they're from Germany, they don't play with me like that So day ones he gets nothing from day one No, none at all. Which is available right now on all streaming platforms.
Starting point is 00:54:47 That's right. And shout out to Amir and the Exclusives, man. They put this album together. Amir, that's my cousin, he back there. And I think the biggest thing about this album is the first album we was able to do with just one writer, one producer. That whole type of nucleus was just us. Other albums always had different producers, different writers including us, but this right
Starting point is 00:55:04 here was just one body of work, you know, one producer, that whole type of feel. And it's real R&B. I think everybody will enjoy it. People have called it a classic, you know, so I'm hoping that everybody, you know, go check it out. Is the, this is my last question. Is the industry really worth your peace of mind?
Starting point is 00:55:20 And if you could do it all over again, would you have taken the route y'all took? I would say it's not the industry, it's the people in the industry, man. So I love the industry and the work that it's provided and making my dreams come true, making me join with the group and the experience, all of that's great.
Starting point is 00:55:38 But it's some wicked people out here, man. And that's everywhere in life, bro. When you're talented, they would try to come in and just distract you and destroy whatever it is that God has for your purpose, man, and you just gotta watch out for them people and don't compromise. Yeah. All right, well definitely support Day 26.
Starting point is 00:55:58 I know y'all gotta show up in New York. Absolutely, man. It's SOBs tomorrow. First show is sold out tonight. I mean tonight, first show is sold out. You know what I'm saying? Second show is almost there. So get your tickets right now.
Starting point is 00:56:09 There's only a few left and we not playing. You know what I'm saying? We selling merch. You know what I'm saying? The Day 26 merch. Y'all see that? Yeah. We got shirts, we got hoodies.
Starting point is 00:56:16 We got hats. We got crop tops. We got crop hoodies. We got sweats. We got all socks. What else? We got, shout out to Mark and Aaron. We got varsity jackets as well. Sweats we got all socks what else we got shots Mark and Erin we got varsity jackets as well. You know saying I see the quality is amazing
Starting point is 00:56:36 I'm just happy to see y'all working We appreciate y'all joining us let's get into a record which I want to hear. Over You. Our new single. Over You. Off our new album. Let's get it on right now. It's The Breakfast Club. It's Day 26. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning.
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