The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Deon Cole Talks New Comedy Special, Old Spice, Vintage Women, Black-ish, Paul McCartney + More
Episode Date: October 2, 2024The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Deon Cole To Discuss His New Comedy Special, Old Spice, Vintage Women, Black-ish, And Paul McCartney. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy informat...ion.
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The Breakfast Club.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Jess is on maternity leave, so Lawn LaRosa's filling in,
and we got a special guest in the building.
He getting all the money, too, by the way.
All the money.
Don't let nobody tell you different.
All the money.
Don't let nobody tell you different.
I peeped the Gucci on the pocket.
Acting, stand up.
Don't let nobody tell you different.
Endorsements.
Old Spice.
Come on, man.
He is the Old Spice Man.
He is the Old Spice Man.
Did you ever think, Deon Cole, you'd be the Old Spice Man?
Like, you the Old Spice Man.
Ladies and gentlemen, Deon Cole.
Deon Cole is here.
No, I wouldn't.
I never would have thought it.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, what's going on?
That's one hell of an intro.
All the money went. How are you feeling, first and foremost, brother? yeah, yeah. Hey, what's going on? That's one hell of an intro. All the money went.
How are you feeling, first and foremost, brother?
Great, man.
I'm great, man.
How y'all feeling?
Bless Black and Holly favorite, brother.
Yeah, thank you, man.
Thank you for sharing your platform and all that.
Always.
Before we get into all the stuff that you're doing,
I just have to ask, since we started,
the Old Spice commercial, right?
I know you talk about it a million more times.
How did that come about,
and did you ever expect it to be as big as it is? You know Old Spice commercial, right? I know you talk about it a million more times. How did that come about, and did you ever expect it
to be as big as it is?
You know Old Spice, man?
It's crazy.
There's only been two that I remember.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
I mean, it comes on football games.
It's like, it's, it's...
What's the audition process for that?
How did that happen?
No, so I had been doing Black-ish,
and I was doing all these characters,
like on the show called Angie Tribeca doing Black-ish, and I was doing all these characters, like on this show called Anti-Tribeka and Black-ish,
all these kind of like left kind of characters, you know?
And so they came to me and was like,
man, we looking for a new guy.
And I was like, I ain't got no muscles and shit.
That was the first thing I went to.
I was like, I think they want me to ride a horse, have muscles.
And they was like, no, no, we're looking for a guy that's like,
you know, just regular next door guy that you can hang out with or whatever.
And I was like, OK, yeah.
So we talked and next thing I know, they had me on a flight to Portugal
to go shoot some commercials and stuff.
And I went out there and did it and had me doing like, you know,
how they really get down, like throwing rocks in the woods and swimming in streams,
fish catching my mouth, just all this weird stuff.
When I got back to the States.
There's fish fishing in the mouth.
How many times did you have to do that?
At least nine times.
Like, this fish jumped my mouth and I had to stand there
and do this and it was wild.
You know that check was good. It was like, fuck it, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it, mouth and I had to stand there and do this. It was wild.
You know that check was good.
It was like, fuck it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
Right, yeah, I'm going to do it.
But when we got back to the States, they was like, no,
we got another campaign we want to do.
And everything that I shot was like out the window.
And they was like, no, but what do you think about this?
And they came and I was like, oh, no, this would be great.
Like, the whole thing about men have skin too.
And the whole campaign.
And I was like, yeah, I think this might work.
And we shot it and boom.
Took off.
Well, it works.
Cause that's all I use is Old Spice body wash.
And I never did that when Isaiah Mufasa was the Old Spice man.
All I use is Old Spice body wash.
For real.
Some of the Neons.
So not to get into the finances,
but do you get paid every time the commercial plays?
Nah, so they give me, they pay me once a year, like flat.
Like boom, like.
Man, that commercial runs all the goddamn time.
They run a lot though, don't they?
All the goddamn time.
Yeah, they run a lot.
Yeah, nah, they give me one flat fee,
and then they off to the races with it, you know?
Yeah.
Well, congrats.
I do wonder with everything that you've done though,
from stand-up to Black-ish, and the movies,
and the average Joe, what gets you recognized more?
Is it the TV or the Old Spice commercial?
Man, it's always something different.
Like, I'll go somewhere, and everybody
know me for something different.
They'll be like, man, you write for Conan.
Or they'll be like, oh, no, you the comedian of everywhere I go.
It's like, and it depends on the crowd too, you know.
I went to NASCAR and nobody knew me.
Is that refresher or you feel like, no, no, what's going on here?
I went down this red carpet.
They had cameras out there and then they were just quiet as I walked by.
Which black man is this?
I told you somebody.
I was like, yeah, well, they don't know me at all.
Yeah, yeah.
But no, you said, what did you say?
Is that refreshing?
Like, okay, I'm finally somewhere where I can just relax.
So you're like, hold on, why they don't know who I am?
I mean, man, you know what?
You know what you're doing in this business.
You know what I mean? I ain't going to be one of these dudes where, yo, I just won. I'll be like, man,'re doing in this business. You know what I mean?
I ain't going to be one of these dudes like,
yo, I just won.
I'll be like, man, it come with the business
because couldn't nobody be talking to me.
You know what I mean?
That's right.
So which one am I going to choose?
You know, so I don't trip like that.
You know, yeah, you know, take it as it comes.
Right.
Now you embrace your age,
the fact that you're 50, brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You look comes. Right. Now you embrace your age, the fact that you 50, brother,
cause you don't have that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You look amazing for 50.
Thank you, 50 plus.
50 plus?
You do that in the new special a lot.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, definitely.
That's what the title is, right?
Okay, Mister, the young girl's like.
Yo, that title.
That title right there hurts so bad.
Okay, Mister.
They say Mister, not Unc They're like, oh, yeah.
You said you don't like OG.
No, I like OG.
That title hurts so bad.
My name is special.
It just sums up everything.
Once a woman calls you that,
we're like, okay, hey, how you doing, Mr.?
Okay, man.
You'll be like, oh, God damn it. I ain't gonna lie, I hate it. I're like, okay, hey, how you doing, mister? Okay, man. You'll be like,
oh, God damn it. I ain't gonna lie, I hate it. I hate it, too,
man.
Why you don't like mister?
When they say your full name, hey, Mr. McKelvey.
I'm grown. My daughter's 16. Her friends
better call me mister.
You talking about somebody that's young, but you
not young, but of age
that you might be potentially interested in,
and they call you mister?
It just depends.
Anybody calling me mister, I'd be like, man.
You know, I don't feel that way towards white folks, though.
I like my mister.
I like my mister.
They call me mister.
I like when they call me mister, man.
They talk about dating younger women
and dating older women, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's your issue with younger women?
One of our co-hosts right here is single.
I was watching it like, you traumatized.
I did not traumatize.
I gave y'all love.
I just was saying, like, y'all got a lot of energy.
Y'all on a different page.
And, you know, when you're older and you pay a lot of taxes,
you know, you just, you know, you don't really want all of that.
You say you just want to high-five and then go to bed. You just want to chill. You know, just sit back in the, you know, you don't really want all of that. You just want to high five and then go to bed.
You just want to chill, you know, just sit back in the cut and chill.
You don't want to do all that stuff.
Y'all always want to go somewhere.
Go somewhere.
And when you do go somewhere, you're on your phone the whole damn time.
It's like, what are we doing?
You know, 17,000 photos from your door to the car.
It's like, yo, it's just different.
You know what I mean?
And so, you know, I'll talk about it, you know.
What's the worst experience you had dating a younger woman?
Man, I remember she had an old spirit.
Let's just say that, right?
I went to her house one day, man,
and she had like a J. Cole poster on the wall,
and I left.
Why?
She had a poster on the wall.
But is it like, it's not like framed.
It's not like a memorabilia moment.
It was a poster.
Like a high school girl poster. It's like a high school girl poster.
It was like a college.
Yeah.
Like, yeah.
So not like memorabilia signed.
What if it was Michael Jackson?
If it was Michael Jackson, I would be like, oh, that's cool.
You know, depending on, I guess the frame
would make a difference.
And there was no frame.
It was tax.
Like, just taxing it. I just showed up over there and was like, hey, It was tax. Just tax. Who were you dating?
I just showed up over there and was like,
hey, are we going to go out? Are we going to hang out?
I was like, all right. She was tall as hell.
I thought she was older.
Where did you meet her at, though?
Where did I meet her at? I met her at a comedy club.
Okay. At a comedy club, yeah.
And I was like, yeah, we can go hang out.
And she was like, yeah, let me stop at the house first.
And we went to her house.
And I was like, yeah, I'm going to use the bathroom.
And I went in there. And I looked.
And I said, she got the J. Cole poster.
In the bathroom?
No, no, I was walking to the bathroom
when I saw a J. Cole poster.
And I was like, oh.
So what was the reason you told her?
No, you said, you got this poster here.
I just was like, man, I ain't feeling well.
I'm going to go head to the hotel room.
Like.
She probably thought you took a dump in the bathroom. You came out the bathroom like, I ain't feeling well. I'm going to go head to the hotel room. Like.
She probably thought you took a dump in the bathroom.
You came out the bathroom like, I'm not feeling well.
She probably knew I was bullshitting
because as soon as I closed the door, I opened it up and left.
I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to get on out of here.
I've been hearing older guys complain that young girls don't
understand they references.
They references?
They references.
So you might reference like Doogie Howser.
And you like, who the hell is Doogie Howser? Wait, wait, hold on. Somebody smart. She definitely don't know who Doogie Howser and you're like who the hell is Doogie Howser
somebody smart
I seen that happen before
I seen an older dude reference to a young girl
like oh you a regular Doogie Howser
she's like who's Doogie Howser
your references will make you old though too
like on some real stuff
I remember this one girl told
I was like girl you, you keep playing.
I'm going to make you wetter than Lake Minnetonka.
And she's like, what's that?
And I was just like, I got to go.
What's Lake Minnetonka?
You got to go.
A lake?
A lake?
No.
Who's that associated with?
Don't even Google.
I don't know.
She's 32.
It ain't her fault.
I mean, but.
It's Purple Rain.
Purple Rain. Oh, okay. Prince. Prince. You know who G, our folks. I mean, but. It's Purple Rain. Purple Rain.
Oh, OK.
Prince.
Prince.
She know who Dooe Gowza was.
Come on, guys.
I know who Prince is, though.
I just didn't know the Lake reference.
We hope you know who Prince is.
Do you listen to Prince?
No.
Jesus.
I don't listen to Prince.
But it's not.
I have nothing against Prince.
See?
And I will walk out of your bathroom.
I will just walk out.
Like, honestly, I've never even thought
to put Prince on my playlist. Not because I think the music is bad. I just. I will be like, your bathroom. Honestly, I've never even thought to put Prince on my playlist.
Not because I think the music is bad.
I will be like, I'm not feeling well.
So in your house, you just be chilling and Purple Rain is just playing?
No, I'm just saying.
I'm not saying that it's not.
He's just not on my playlist.
First of all, I'm not about to have no conversation with anybody
about Prince being fired.
That's just silly. That's not the conversation. He's just not on my playlist. First of all, I'm not about to have no conversation with anybody about Prince being fired. That's just silly.
That's not the conversation.
He's just not on my playlist.
So let me explain something real quick.
And I do have an issue with this.
A lot of our young generation are letting our icons just fall about the wayside because you won't even pay attention to where the music that you listen to is samples from. Like, all these people are great artists,
and we got to, like, at least give them some love
and pay attention to who they are.
White folks, they still be going to see the Rolling Stones.
They be going to hang out with them.
If Prince was alive, I would go see Prince.
Y'all motherfuckers is not fucking with Diana Ross.
A lot of people not.
Y'all not going to go see Lionel Rich and Stevie Wonder.
I would do stuff like that, but even then and still, those people are not on my everyday playlist. A lot of people not. Y'all not going to go see Lionel Rich and Stevie Wonder.
Y'all ain't upholding these people. I would do stuff like that, but even then and still,
those people are not on my everyday playlist.
That's what I'm saying.
But I was going to see them.
I get it, but look, y'all not playing them.
Y'all not keeping them in your music list or none of that.
And so what happens, I'm going to tell you something.
Is this the conversation you have at dinner with the younger girls too?
No, no, I don't do, no.
You don't even make it to dinner.
I go like this, hey, give me your phone.
No, I'm just playing.
No, but I went to the Spear, right, in Vegas.
And I saw you two.
Did you go see that?
I didn't see it.
I heard it was crazy.
Have you been to this crazy, craziest concert I've ever been to?
And while I was there, I'm looking at you two,
and I'm going, they sold out four shows, four shows a week,
17,000, let's round it off to 20, 20,000 people a week
for five months, sold out.
My question is, besides like Beyonce,
who do we have in the black community
that can do that? I feel like Usher did that
I don't know how big the sphere is but
Usher was doing that in Vegas
but new edition maybe
straight
look four shows a week
for five months
straight
Usher did that didn't he?
Usher was doing that in Vegas
he did 5,? Usher did that, didn't he? Who? Usher was doing that in Vegas? No, no.
He did 5,000.
Oh, 5,000.
Usher did 5,000.
Got you, got you, got you.
Who can do 20,000 that we got?
It's mind-blowing.
Besides Beyonce?
Who?
Mary?
20,000.
I don't know, man.
Four times a week. I don't know, man. That's 80,000 a week. That's. Four times a week.
That's 80,000 a week.
That's 80,000 a week.
Who do we have that can do that?
My cousin said Chris Brown.
I don't think.
No.
Not all them days.
No.
No.
Diana Ross.
I could say Diana Ross.
I think she can have a residency.
20,000 a show?
That's a lot of people.
Let me just give the rest.
17,000.
That's just a spear hole.
17,000, right?
17,000 people four times a week.
I think Stevie Wonder could do it.
For five months straight, Stevie Wonder?
I think Stevie could.
Only because he's such an icon living.
17,000?
I think Stevie could.
Because Stevie got black people, white people.
Four nights a week, though.
Four nights a week. YouTube. a way people for nice a week
YouTube
You guys the stones who can do it right you got maybe
Metallica can probably
It's been blowing my mind trying to figure this out. $17,000 four nights a week is crazy.
Beyonce could do it.
But besides Beyonce can do it.
But who?
And so what I'm saying is I think
it has a lot to do with our younger generation
not upholding our artists that we have
and really keeping them alive or whatever.
When the Stones go out, man, it's all picnics. that we have and really keeping them alive or whatever.
When the Stones go out, man, it's a whole picnics.
But as young as different generations.
Different generations.
I have to say, because y'all don't come outside no more.
Who?
He don't go nowhere.
No, I go to stuff like that.
I think there's comics that could do it.
Who?
I think there's some comics that could probably do it.
Dave Chappelle.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rock probably could do it.
20,000. Listen, I, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rock probably could do it. 20,000.
Listen, I even go three times a week.
Three times a week, 20,000 people for five months straight.
Let's even go four months.
Four months straight, who?
As it's so, it's so sad to me that-
Nah, that's true, it is, that's the point.
Yeah, I can't, other than Beyonce,
I can't think of nobody.
You can't think of nobody nobody and that's so sad.
But they have...
Billy Joe can go
in that motherfucker
and do that shit.
You know what I mean?
Like, they have so many...
I think Jay-Z could do it.
Jay-Z,
we saw him going out
four nights in a row
and have like 50,000, 60,000.
But that was New York though,
but that's 50,000 in New York.
I think...
I think Jay could do it.
I'm being quiet. I don't know. think Jay could do it. I don't know.
I don't know.
I really don't know.
I don't know.
I'm sitting here thinking like four nights a week, 17,000 people.
I don't know.
Let's even break it down.
Three times a week for four months straight.
I think Jay might be that kind of spectacle.
I think Snoop could do it, too.
Dre and Snoop.
I think Dre and Snoop together could do it.
No, no.
I think Dre and Snoop can do it.
Yes.
I think Dre and Snoop together can do it.
Snoop, and
that's the big homie Snoop.
Dre my guy too, but I'm just
saying like together. And because
Dre ain't been around,
do you think OutKast can do it?
Yes.
It's because they don't get it.
80,000 a week for a four-month.
Not that.
I'm speaking from personal perspective. But they ain't 80,000 a week
80,000 a week
You too have him you don't think I'm gonna do it. I think I'm gonna do it you to snuck their music on people's Oh, they cheated. No, you two been rocking for decades.
You know who I think could do it right now?
Who?
Drake.
Because he's such a, he got that type of music.
He could do those things.
You know what?
I think Drake could do it.
I think Drake could do it.
I think Drake can do it.
I think Drake can do it.
Yeah, Drake can do it.
I think Drake is, Drake is, and that's so sad.
That's the only person that probably can do that,
out of all our artists.
Yeah, Drake could do it. He's so, he's so crossover, so international. He's so crossover. of all our artists. Yeah, Drake can do it.
He's so crossover, so international,
so many different genres.
I think Drake can do it.
Drake can do that by himself, too.
Well, not too much on us.
Let's talk about the vintage ladies.
Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry.
We're just having a conversation now.
No, no, I'm not one of the youngest.
Let's talk about the vintage ladies
because you get into them, too.
Yeah, yeah, what about them?
What's your, uh? Not what about them.
So that's what...
You lean more towards the vintage ladies.
Do I lean towards them?
Lean more.
Yeah, because we got stuff in common that we can talk about.
You know, I can't really talk...
I mean, unless they teaching me something
that I don't know, a younger woman,
they could teach me something, but you know,
I got to make sure that it's in line with what I'm trying to do with my life.
Do these older women,
like you've called an older woman in real life,
a vintage woman, a vintage lady?
What can you teach me right now?
I don't know. I don't teach lessons.
See, and this is why.
Yeah. Back to the vintage ladies.
I used to say vintage vagina, but then...
But you don't say that to them in real life. Oh, he did. You say that to them the vintage ladies. I used to say vintage vagina, but then...
But you don't say that
to them in real life.
Oh, he did.
You say that to them
in real life?
He used to.
What?
Vintage vagina
and vintage ladies
and vintage women.
Do I call women vintage?
To their face.
Yeah.
How do they respond?
They like that?
Yeah, they do.
I mean, vintage is a word
that you got to look it up.
And I say it in my special.
It means like rare,
one of a kind.
It ain't like no bullshit.
It's like vintage. Like vintage. Yeah. I'm just asking a question. By the special. It means like rare, one of a kind. It ain't like no bullshit. It's like vintage.
Like vintage, yeah.
I'm just asking a question.
By the way.
It's like a good thing.
Like ain't nobody going to buy a vintage Corvette.
Like you're not just, you know what I mean?
It's age.
Like fine wine.
Yeah, that's what it is.
It ain't no diss.
I'm not being defensive.
I'm just asking a question.
All the women over, I call vintage anything over 40, all the women over 40 look better than these young girls. Man. It ain't no diss. I'm not being defensive. I'm just asking a question. All the women over... I call it vintage anything over 40.
All the women over 40 look better than these young girls.
Man. It ain't even close.
Not too much on us, now. It's just the truth.
It ain't even close. Not too much on us.
And look, they a little bit...
They a lot... I'm going to make up a word, funner.
Like they are like...
So that's what I could teach you is how to...
I don't know. Look, you can be like fun like this, but they-
What's their type of fun?
Their type of fun is, hey, I'm an empty nester,
all my kids is gone, and I got 300,000 in the bank,
500,000 in the bank, let's go to Fiji and go kick it,
and let me show you the kind of fun I got.
I'm not upset with y'all because that's what we be on too.
We would rather have the... That's what we want.
You said you just want to go to Miami.
Oh, no.
See, and y'all want like.
Go to Miami.
You said Miami.
Just go to Miami.
None of my friends want to just go to Miami.
That's what they want.
Take me to live.
All she want is live in Nova when they in the same corridor.
Like, that's not the one for you.
No, I'm just saying like you would want to go on a trip
or whatever, but you won't pay for it, would you?
Why can't I pay for a trip? I'm asking you.
I'm not trying to assume. I would pay for a trip.
You would pay for a trip? Okay.
Would you tell your friends you paid for it?
Would you tell your friends you paid for it?
Our chat is a little different.
If it's worth it, we'll be doing all that.
But we talk about the majority of women, not just you, right?
Well, you've been putting us all in one category.
No, I have not.
Keion, she is lying her ass off.
Just yesterday in this room, she said,
I'm tired, man. I want a man,
because I'm tired of paying for things.
You said that yesterday.
I did not say that.
You said that yesterday.
Taylor said that. Taylor said that yesterday.
I thought I heard you say it too.
I did not.
Yeah, I said it. I'm tired of paying for curtains.
You said, I'm tired of paying for these curtains.
Tass Rabbit.
She's tired of paying for these curtains.
That's exactly right.
I paid you.
That's what you said.
I need a band to hang up these curtains.
And if you hang up these curtains, babe, you said you wanted to go to PGA Golf.
What?
Let's do it.
It's an even exchange.
You ain't never heard of that.
She said she's tired of paying for these curtains.
That's what she said.
I'm tired of paying for these curtains.
Let me tell you something. How did you say it? When said, yeah. I'm tired of paying for these curtains.
Let me tell you something.
When I tell you, I tried to do it myself at first.
You see these nails?
My mom was like, girl, if you don't get your behind down
off that chair.
She went out in the hallway.
It was this man just doing something
in one of the other apartments.
She said, excuse me, sir, can you come help us?
He happened to work for TaxRabbit.
I was like, yeah, for sure.
He hung them curtains up in 10 minutes.
I was trying for an hour. Wow. See? I was trying to find the studs and all that. I was like, yeah, for sure. He hung them curtains up in 10 minutes. I was trying for an hour.
Wow.
See?
I was trying to find the studs and all that.
It was just a lot.
Debbie.
Debbie Mills.
Hey, Ms. Mills.
As Ms. Mills walks in. Yeah.
Ms. Mills heard vintage and walked right in.
Don't play with us.
Don't play with us.
We were just talking about vintage ladies.
Wow, look at the way she is.
Look at the way.
Way better than these young girls.
That vintage.
That's.
Look at the way she is looking at him.
That man has.
He is ready.
As she gives him a nice hug.
Look how he just melted into her. I see. I'm watching. Do'm ready. I'm ready. And she gives him a nice hug. Look how he just melted into her.
I see it.
I'm watching.
Do you see this?
Yes.
That's a girl.
Look, you see how she's hugging him?
That's right.
I piece this like the back around her neck.
You see how she just, ooh, ooh.
There's something in the way she make me feel.
Something in the way you make me feel.
You better something something.
Until you help me put my feet on silent. You better something something I swear I'm coming tonight
Oh my gosh, hear this?
Wow
I swear
Okay, Dion
There you go, I'm jealous
You still got that lipstick on
You see that? You ain't gonna be able to make a man feel like that You still got that lipstick on you.
You see that?
You ain't going to be able to make a man feel like that for another 20 years.
As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions,
but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt,
learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams.
I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves.
For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step.
And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going.
This increment of small, determined moments.
Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
I forgive myself.
It's okay.
Like grace.
Have grace with yourself.
You're trying your best.
And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
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What's up, y'all? This is Questlove,
and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on
with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records.
It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right.
A podcast for all ages.
One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th.
I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records,
Nimany, to tell you all about it.
Make sure you check it out.
Hey, y'all. Nimany here.
I'm the host of a brand-new history podcast for kids and families
called Historical Records.
Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop.
Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette
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nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing.
Check it.
And it began with me.
Did you know, did you know?
I wouldn't give up my seat.
Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin.
Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records.
Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise.
Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean.
He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba.
He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.
And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.
Elian Gonzalez.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian.
Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with.
His father in Cuba.
Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.
Or his relatives in Miami.
Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.
Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.
Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story,
as part of the My Cultura podcast network,
available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
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It's your favorite ghost host, Teresa.
And guess what?
Haunting is back, dropping just in time for spooky season.
Now, I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane,
wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories.
Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you.
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We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete.
You know how much I love this time of year.
It's the one time I'm actually on trend.
So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board.
Just don't call me unless it's urgent.
And tune in for new episodes every week.
Remember, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky,
and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever.
Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app,
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You know it's going to be filled with chisme laughs
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You ain't gonna be able to make a man feel like that
for another 20 years. Look at him. You got red lipstick on your lips. Do I? hot. You ain't gonna be able to make a man feel like that for another 20 years.
Look at him.
You got red lipstick on your lips.
That come with experience and age.
It ain't red lipstick.
You ain't gonna be able to make a man feel like that for 20 years, Lauren.
No, she made me hot, so it's okay.
You didn't even know who that was when she walked in the room.
First of all, stop playing with me.
She definitely didn't know who that was at first.
That's not true.
I interviewed her when I was at TMZ.
Stop playing with me.
Oh, I love Starz.
OK.
Y'all ain't really acting like just because we're younger,
we might not consume everything all the time that y'all do,
that we're like idiots or something.
No, we're not saying that at all.
No, not idiots.
Just dumb.
Not idiots.
Like, that's harsh.
Harsh is idiots.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you for the grace.
I appreciate the empathy.
It's just differences.
You OK? You were able to finish?
You need some water?
No, no, no.
That blew my mind right there.
Dion, stop stuttering.
Did you see that?
She just be hanging out.
No, she...
Did y'all see Dion?
No, he's not stuttering.
I'm coming tonight.
I'm coming.
I'm coming right now.
I'm coming later.
I'm coming tomorrow. I'm coming right now. I'm coming. I'm coming right now. I'm coming later. I'm coming tomorrow.
I'm coming right now.
I'm coming.
I'm coming.
Don't that see, did you see that?
It was the, yeah.
Did you see that?
Can you have, and I'm just asking,
have you ever walked in a room and just made a man just?
No.
You have not?
I have.
That's what's up.
That's what's up.
They aint lying.
They aint lying.
They aint lying.
They aint lying. They aint lying. Hit her. They hit her.
I'm lying for the whole reason.
Don't be dabbing him off.
Why?
With the younger ones, you gotta pick a side.
You gotta stay over there and get over there.
Lies for no reason.
Don't give me.
Give me.
Give me over here capping right now.
That aint nothing happening.
Charlamagne don't be nowhere, so he don't know.
I would've heard about it.
I wanna ask you, Deion, what makes it special, special nowadays?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't, so he don't know. I would've heard about it. I'm kidding.
I would've heard about it.
I want to ask you, Deion, what makes
it special special nowadays?
Man, just getting back to funny, man.
It seems like everybody got a message now,
and it's like everybody stand for something and you
know, we got to get the word out about it.
And it's like we missing the funny, you know what I mean?
And so that's the focus.
You can still do your thing.
It's not what you do, it's how you do it.
And so I just think specials are missing that. And when, I guess,
I guess what people are talking about right now,
you know, the game is shifting a little bit, you know?
And it's like, it's changing the way
that people put out things, you know?
And so I'm not knocking nobody,
but you know, it's just, it's just changing.
Specials used to really be special. Hell yeah. You know what I mean?
Like special.
There are a few that still are special,
but the more you have, it's going to dilute what it is.
Do you touch everything on your specials?
Is there something like, do you do politics?
Do you touch Diddy? Do you do all that in your specials?
Nah. If you notice on all my specials
or if you don't notice, all
my stuff is really evergreen because
I feel like you
can do those specials where you can talk about
pop culture and what's going on, but
to me, it's great for the moment
but it'll like, it'll
date you a little bit. And don't get me
wrong, I talk about
pop culture a lot,
but when I do a special, I try not to,
unless it's something that,
unless I'm making a point on something that's longevity.
You get what I mean?
Yeah.
So it's not because,
because like when you started the gay joke in the special,
you was like, I don't want to mess up my Old Spice money.
Yeah.
So it's not really because you're like scared of anything.
No. What you mean?
Like, so you don't touch certain, like do you not touch certain stuff because you're like scared of anything. No. What you mean? Like so you don't touch certain,
like do you not touch certain stuff
because you're actually scared of losing those like sponsorships
and endorsement deals or is it more of a-
You definitely got to watch yourself.
Like you got people, that's why Dave Chappelle and like Kat
and these guys are so important to this game.
They, to my knowledge,
they don't have endorsements and stuff like that or whatever.
So therefore, they can say whatever they want.
Corey Holcomb.
Corey Holcomb.
They can say whatever they want.
Andrew Schultz.
They can say whatever they want, which keeps that amendment alive.
But then you got certain people that really can't say whatever they want.
You know what I mean?
So it's very important that them guys go out there
and keep knocking them doors down
in order for us to be able to say as much as we can,
you know what I mean?
But the endorsement game is changing now, you know?
Like, they not really, like, on you like that.
That's right.
Especially with Snoop out there doing,
he doing Snoop.
Man. Olympics.
Everything, still smoking crazy herbs
and making music
and he's still being him.
You know what I mean? I don't even like having that conversation
because I don't want nobody to go look at old Snoop.
You know what I'm saying?
We get to talking and he be like, can you believe it?
And you be like, keep that amongst yourselves.
Just chill, they don't need to know old Snoop.
But that's how the game
is changing now.
People are really just looking at you as something that can market their brand or whatever.
But the gay joke that you did,
that was the joke, you didn't really have a gay joke.
No, so I had a bit that I was gonna do,
but I was just like, yeah.
And I said to myself, I was like, I'm gonna end this probably.
I'm probably gonna do it.
But depending on how I feel, I might run through the whole thing.
Okay.
And so I was like, nah.
I was like, nah.
But I knew in my mind I wasn't gonna do it because I felt the audience
and the audience didn't feel like it.
Because it was shot in L.A.
You could see the gay in the audience.
You could taste it exclusively.
At least you got a barometer.
At least your gaydar is on point.
What was the joke?
Nah.
Nah.
One day when Old Spice let me go, I'll tell you.
How pivotal was Black-ish for your career?
Man, Black-ish was everything.
It was everything.
That show should have still been on, man.
Shout out to my boy Anthony Anderson.
I was just at his house.
We was over there eating and kicking it or whatever.
And Tracy and everybody.
But I hate that show ended, man.
We supposed to have kept going.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, I really don't even know.
I think it was a money situation.
But I just wish we had just stuck together.
You know what I mean? With the money thing.
And that show would have been on.
You mean like the people in the cabs wanted more money?
Yeah, the money situation.
And this is just from what I was told or whatever.
Everybody was doing their own deals
when we all should have just went in together.
You know what I mean?
And just came together.
I think Abbott Elementary just did that.
Everybody bumped up like, bang.
Modern Family did that. Everybody bumped up like bang. Modern Family did that.
Everybody was like, you know,
and I just always had this issue
with why we didn't do that or whatever.
Everybody went on their own deals.
I remember I told them, I said,
yo, the guys in the office, me and Jeff and Peter,
the two white guys, I was like, I told them,
I was like, man, they need us, man, so look,
we gonna go in there and make our deal,
we gonna do our deal, you know what I mean?
If not, yo, we not gonna sign, like fuck that,
you know what I mean?
And so I remember my people went to talk to them
and they was like this, yeah, they already signed.
And I was like this, what?
And they was like, yeah, and I was like, and I called one of the guys, I was like, dude, they already signed. And I was like this, what? And they was like, yeah.
And I was like, and I called one of the guys.
I'm like, dude, what's?
He was like, yeah, my daughter's got to go to college, man.
And I was like, oh my god.
And so I had to, you know.
Did y'all even attempt to have the conversation as a cast
to say, let's go in there together?
No.
Nobody even did that.
But I was wondering, I remember one time
I was even talking to Ant and I was like,
did everybody negotiate this?
Ant was like, yeah, everybody going in on their own.
Everybody doing their own.
And I was like, all right.
And I was like, man, we should just go together.
They wouldn't have told y'all no.
You, Anthony Anderson, Tracee Ellis Ross, Jennifer.
Lawrence Fishburne.
We had the, I think we could have really did it.
I don't know what happened, man.
I just hate that that dropped the ball
because that show could have still been on.
We still had some firepower in us,
and we all could have really made some money,
money because I think they was really making money.
I really wasn't making crazy money on a show like that.
You'd have probably had a spinoff by now.
It'd have been some type of issue for you.
No, no.
Shout out to Kenya Barris, too.
That's my brother. Love him to pieces, man.
That's my boy right there.
We talked about doing something or whatever.
It just didn't materialize or whatever
because I had went over to Grown-ish with that character
and kicked off Grown-ish over there.
And then I don't know if they really was like,
yo, we kick off another show with you or whatever,
because it really didn't make no sense for me to be on Grown-ish.
Kenya was like, yo, we're going to make you a professor.
And I was like, all right, bad, cool.
We went over there just to make sure the show took off.
You know what I mean?
And so I went over there, rocked with them for about three years. And sure the show took off. You know what I mean? And so I went over there, rocked with them
for about three years.
And then the show took off.
And then I was able to leave or whatever.
But as far as doing that character again
on this on spinoff, I think we should have did it before I
went over the ground and shit.
You know what I mean?
So we missed that window or whatever.
It feels like Average Joe got a whole new life, too,
once it hit Netflix.
I thought people were talking about a new Dion Cole show
the way people were talking about it.
Let me tell you something, man.
You got to believe.
You got to believe in you, man.
Like, I know it sounds cliche, but it's really real.
Like, you really got to believe in what you feel.
We shot that show a year and a half ago,
almost two years ago,
and it was on BET, and nobody seen it.
But I just knew that the script was dope.
Nobody did, dog.
Nobody seen it.
It was just over there, and nobody was really checking for it like that.
But I would tell BET, I'd be like, man, we need to market this to like, you know,
a murder audience because it's about murder, gore, money.
You know, marketing this to, you know, Tyler Perry's audience
and the people that's on BET, the Sunday Gospel,
like they not gonna really be-
It make sense, right?
So I was like, man, we need to go to the ID channel.
So it just never worked out.
Then when I heard that they were talking to Netflix,
I was like, man, this is what's going on.
Netflix is gonna do what it's supposed to do
because they had them kind of shows
and they gonna partner them with this.
And I think that's what's gonna make the difference.
And sure enough, man, they partnered with Netflix
and they put that thing out.
That thing went like crazy, man.
I was like, man, shout out to everybody
that watch Average Joe too, man.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah, yeah, still going crazy.
So we getting season two?
Yeah, I leave January. We start shooting in Cape Town. Oh, getting season two? Yeah, I leave January.
We start shooting in Cape Town.
Oh, dope.
See?
Yeah, South Africa.
Yeah, South Africa.
Yeah, we going down there.
Thank you.
How long you going to be down there?
Like four and a half months.
Yeah, it's going to be crazy.
Yeah, going there shooting.
And come on back and make it happen, baby.
You know?
Yeah, definitely.
Is it true you once bombed at a comedy show
because you got high with Paul McCartney?
Oh, yeah.
That just happened.
He said, yeah, it just happened.
It just happened.
Yeah.
You smoking weed?
Smoking with Paul.
Ain't that crazy?
That's insane.
Oh, he just, man, I walked up in the improv,
and they was like.
Oh, I did see that.
Yeah, I did see that.
Yeah, man, it's been everywhere.
I walk up in the improv, and they was like, like they saw a ghost. They was like. Oh, I did see that. Yeah, I did see that. Yeah, it was, man, it's been everywhere. I walk up in Improv
and they was like,
like they saw a ghost.
They was like this.
Paul McCartney's here to see you.
Oh, y'all cool?
Nah, like, not like that.
Because when he came on stage
and y'all were talking,
like, y'all knew each other
for a long time.
No, let me tell you
how cool Paul is, yo.
Like, when I was like,
I couldn't believe it.
I was like, Paul.
And I was like, Paul who?
And they was like, McCartney. I was like, really?'t believe it. I was like, Paul. And I was like, Paul who? And they was like, McCartney.
I was like, really?
I said, tell him to come up to the green room.
He came up there.
Hey, man.
How are you, bro?
Man, I love your stuff.
And hey, man.
Yeah, man.
I think you're hilarious, man.
Specials.
And yo, I love it.
I'm sitting there looking like, this is crazy.
Like, this is.
One of the Beatles.
I like to call people like him, like culture shifters.
Oh yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Shift the culture like a couple times.
You know what I mean?
I'm looking at him like, wow.
And he was just like, yeah man.
He reached in his pocket and he's going,
mind if I partake brother?
And I'm like this, yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah man, so, you know.
We started talking about Michael Jackson.
You talking about how Michael got him?
No, yeah, about the publishing.
No, you're bullshitting.
I swear.
Come on, man.
You didn't stop it, man.
So we sat there, and he was like, you want to smoke?
I was like, I ain't smoked in 13 years.
But it's Paul.
It's Paul I got to.
So I grabbed him, and I was like this.
Let me ask you a question, dog.
I said, Michael Jackson.
Just tell me about Michael Jackson. He was like, oh, me ask you a question, I said, Michael Jackson, just tell me about Michael Jackson.
He was like, oh man, he's brilliant, man.
He's brilliant, man.
No one works like Mike, man.
No one works like Mike.
And we had a relationship and it was real cool
and everything, you know, used to play with my kids.
He said, he's real childlike, very childlike.
And he was like, you know, and one day we sat up
and we was like, we should do some songs together.
And we did, and he was like, yeah, we made a few songs.
And I was like, monster hits, motherfucker.
He was like, yeah, you know, a few songs.
And then I was like, yeah.
I said, but get to the real shit.
Like, what happened?
He was like, they was at a party one day.
And he was in the courtyard and they were talking.
And he told them, he was like, hey, Mike, man,
you need to jump on your business.
You know, that's the only thing you're missing.
You got everything else but your business affairs or I don't know what. You need to own your own publishing. You know, that's the only thing you're missing. You got everything else but your business affairs
or I don't know what, you need to, on your own publishing.
That's where the money is, man.
Or on someone else's publishing.
And he said, Mike was like, oh yeah?
Like who?
And he was like, I don't know,
like whoever's the biggest in the game.
And Mike was like this, well, I'm gonna own your publishing.
And he said, he was like, yeah, not me, Mike,
but anybody else.
And he said, they laughed. And he said, yeah, not me, Mike, but anybody else. And he said they laughed.
And he said, next thing he know, Mike bought the fucking publishing.
Bought the shit.
And so he told me this, too.
He said that him and John signed a really kind of like fucked up deal.
So the money that they were making, it wasn't like tons.
They wished they made more, especially on the publishing. So since Mike owned the publishing,
they thought Mike is our friend.
He'll give us a bump, at least a bump.
So he went to Mike and said,
hey man, you think you can give us a bump on our publishing?
And then Mike would told him, no.
He said, no, it's business.
Wow.
And he said he wouldn't give it to me.
And he said, and that's when they kind of just stopped
talking.
Wow.
And I was like, wow.
He was like, just break a leg.
And then he went downstairs.
Well, that's a legendary story.
And I was just sitting there like, man.
You just sitting there high.
I'm sitting there high as shit.
And I go downstairs.
He's still smoking.
Well, hold on.
But then he goes on stage.
And I bomb.
The one of the worst shows I ever had in 20 years.
Because he was high.
Yeah. But then he heckled you, I heard.
Yeah.
What was he saying while you was on?
He really went heckling me.
This is what he was doing.
Every time a joke didn't work, I could just hear fire in the back.
Oh.
And I was like, this goddamn ball.
But then you bring him on stage.
Yeah, because I told people.
I said, man, this show ain't going well.
Because I'm a little high,
but I'm going to tell y'all why later.
I was like, I don't want to use that as an excuse,
so I'm going to tell you why later.
So I bombed the entire night.
There's nothing worse than bombing
and you hear comics in the back
dying, running
around when some shit don't work or whatever.
I'm in there like... That's my favorite.
I'm not going to lie. Dude, I can hear them in the back, like shit moving,
like everybody run, anytime I did a punchline,
and I hear Paul, and they running around,
and I'm like, for an hour, a whole hour.
At the end of that, I was like this,
I'm going to show you why I'm high, everybody.
I said, I got a friend named Paul here.
I said, Paul, bring your ass up here.
And he came up.
And when he came on stage, the whole audience gasped.
And I only work out in front of like 40 people.
When I'm working on new material,
I do it in like real small crowds.
And everybody was like, ah.
They could not believe it.
What do you do with that material that didn't work?
Or the stuff that was working that didn't work that night?
No, it just, it was both. It was stuff that had was working that didn't work that night? No, it was both.
It was stuff that had worked before that didn't work
that night because I wasn't delivering it correctly.
And it was new stuff I was doing that I'd never done before
that I didn't believe in.
You got to believe in this shit when you say it.
Right, right, right.
If you're trying to sell something,
you got to believe it. You know what I mean?
And so I just wasn't believing in it,
and therefore it wasn't working.
But when he came up there and he even said it,
he was like, yeah, yeah, you was bombing.
Like, you know, and I was like, yeah, I know.
But here's the ill shit.
He appreciated that night.
So, cause I was talking to him like a regular motherfucker.
I wasn't bowing to him.
I'm like, even when we was upstairs in the green room,
I'm like, Paul motherfucker, come get, get, yo, yo, yo.
I'm just, just, just talking to him regularly. And then having him on stage, like, yo, motherfucker, come get, yo, yo, yo. I'm just talking to him regularly.
And then having him on stage, like, yo, this my guy.
He appreciated that real moment so much.
He appreciated me bombing, because it wasn't staged.
It wasn't, I got to do my best shit, because Paul's here.
It was a real moment that people like him don't probably get.
You know what I mean?
So he loved every moment of it.
And I did too, in a sense,
because I felt like he will remember this.
You know, I remember one time Prince,
a friend of mine saw Prince on the plane
and Prince was like this, he was like this,
"'Yo, there go Prince."
And he was like, "'Hey Prince.'" And Prince said, "'Let me show you something.'" yo, there go Prince, and he was like, hey Prince.
And Prince said, let me show you something.
And he pulled his phone out and he showed my guy,
he was like this, this is a woman taking a picture of me
and I took a picture of her back.
And my boy was like, oh okay.
But Prince was like, nah.
Give me your warning.
That little moment meant everything to him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's like, it's these little moments that mean so much to these infamous people.
Because they don't ever get to feel like regular people.
They don't feel like regular people.
So these real moments that they have with regular people are everything to them.
You know, when people like bow to them and, oh my God, that come every day. But if you just treat them regularly, they, you know? When people like bow to them and, oh my God, that come every day.
But if you just treat them regularly, they, you know.
Y'all homies, like, so y'all be talking now?
Like, what's the?
Nah, dude, we kicked it that whole night.
Like, even after the show, we hung out.
We hung out and kicked it.
And he was just, man, we just had a great time.
And then he left and I went home and shit, that was it. Now you was just, man, we just had a great time. And then he left. And I went home.
And shit, that was it.
Now you got material for the rest of your life.
Man, for the rest of my life, I got this story that I bombed smoking weed with Paul McCartney.
That's a good way to do it, though.
If you're going to do it, do it, right?
Well, OK, Mister is out right now.
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Yes, man.
Make sure you check it out.
And we appreciate you for joining us.
Continue success always.
Thank y'all for always sharing your platform.
Thank y'all, man. Appreciate it. Dion Cole. Google Prince, too. Make sure you check it out. And we appreciate you for joining us. Continue success always. Thank you. I've always shown your platform. Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
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