The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Doechii Talks New Project, Kendrick's Praise, Bisexuality, Sobriety + More

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Doechii To Discuss Her New Project, Kendrick's Praise, Bisexuality, And Sobriety. Listen For More! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm David Boren. And I am his dear friend Langston Kerman. And we host My Mama Told Me, a podcast about black conspiracy theories. We just did a spectacular live show with some of your favorite comedians on the planet. David, tell them who was there. We had the Kid Mero, Marie Faustin,
Starting point is 00:00:19 and we had Jaboukie Young White. Some of your favorite comedians playing some of the most offensive and groundbreaking games. So listen to My Mama Told Me on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. We want to speak out and we want this to stop. Wow, very powerful. I'm Ellie Flynn, an investigative journalist, and this is my journey deep into the adult entertainment industry.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I really wanted to be a player boy, my doll. He was like, I'll take you to the top, I'll make you a star. To expose an alleged predator and the rotten industry he works in. It's honestly so much worse than I had anticipated. We're an army in comparison to him. From Novel, listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. in comparison to him. From Novel, listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and my latest interview is with Wiz Khalifa. The craziest part of my life, I can go from performing in front of 40,000 people to either being in a dressing room, being in a plane, or being back in a bed all by myself. He is a multi-platinum selling recording artist, mini mogul, and an actor. Which of them are the one, the only? The Wings of the League!
Starting point is 00:01:31 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Join iHeart Media chairman and CEO Bob Pitman for a special episode of the hit podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing, as he interviews the iconic and prolific Martha Stewart in front of a live audience in celebration of her 100th book. Did you ever think you were gonna wind up writing 100 books?
Starting point is 00:01:58 Yeah. You did? Yeah, it's just a minor goal. Listen to Math and Magic on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone, it's John, also known as Dr. John Paul. And I'm Jordan, or Joe Ho. And we are the Black Fat Film Podcast. A podcast where all the intersections of identity
Starting point is 00:02:21 are celebrated. Ooh, chat, this year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show, Angelica Ross, and more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Fam podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or whatever you get your podcast, girl.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Ooh, I know that's right. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning, The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, and the guy. We are The Breakfast Club, and we got a special guest in the building that came in here so delightful and bright and nice, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Lying. She was not lying, ladies and gentlemen. Definitely came in lying. She was not lying. Ladies and gentlemen, Dochi's here. Good morning, Dochi. Hello. What's up, baby? How are you?
Starting point is 00:03:07 Good morning. I'm great. Man, it feels good to see you. Yeah. Because the last time you was here, no label reps were with you. No. I know.
Starting point is 00:03:17 It was don't know, yeah. But when you see the whole label here with you, that's when you know you're really doing good. So congratulations. Thank you. Thank you so much. It has been a while. I think last time I was talking about fighting, That's when you know you're really doing good. So congratulations. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you so much. It has been a while.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I think last time I was talking about fighting, it was a lot going on. Did you get a call after that? Did that person call you? Oh my God. They didn't call me. They didn't call me, but it doesn't matter. We don't need to do that.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I learned my lesson from last time. You know what I'm saying? No. How much has life changed? It's changed, I mean, a lot. I've been nonstop, like on the go. I've been really from last time. I learned from last time. No. Well, how much has life changed? It's changed, I mean, a lot. I've been nonstop, like, on the go. I've been really, really busy in a good way, performing a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I just got off tour, which is incredible. Grammy nom. You know, a lot of- Well, very well deserved by the way. Thank you. A lot of things have been happening. I feel good. You've received a Hip Hop Disruptor Award?
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yes! How'd that feel? hip hop disruptor award. Yes. How that feel? They just made that up. You know it's real when they gotta make a name for it. They gotta make an award. You're in the lane of your own. It feels good. I mean I'm just like wow hip hop disruptor that that resonates with me heavily. Feels good. Do you consider yourself just a rapper though? I think an overall artist, but first a rapper for sure. From Tampa. Remember we talked about artists from Tampa? From Tampa, Florida. Yeah, but Dochi sound is just different.
Starting point is 00:04:33 It is. Thank you. I don't know where she from. She's from another galaxy. It's different. I will always say Spooky Coochie is my favorite song. I know you been talking about Alligator Bites and Heal, but like girl, that's my jam. Thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Let's talk about the name of the album. Yeah. Or mixtape, is mixtape an album? Mixtape. Mixtape, Alligator Bites Never Heal. Yes. Why is the name of that? And you talk about it all the time,
Starting point is 00:04:58 but this is different. I know. This is Google People. I know. I mean, today it's like, it's about this never ending cycle of life, of you always have a series of truths that you have to constantly come to within yourself over and over again. It's about patterns, essentially. It's like when you get over one hurdle and you cool
Starting point is 00:05:24 in, then you have another one to jump in and it's another one. And it's just about accepting that there's always gonna be more to discover about yourself. There's always gonna be more things to dislike about yourself or like about yourself the more you go on in life. And that's what it's about. Ultimately, you'll always be wounded in some type of way
Starting point is 00:05:41 and then you'll always heal. Well, when did you get bit by an alligator? Chow. Why did it never heal? Chow. Did you go to the doctor? Did you even try to go to a hospital to see? Are you just here?
Starting point is 00:05:51 I have never been bitten by an alligator. Okay. I would hope that would never happen to me but I be around them all the time. Cause you're from Tampa? Yeah. What came up with that even that concept? Like just to even, I don't know what you call it,
Starting point is 00:06:03 a metaphor or whatever. Yeah. What made you come up with that? I don't know, it really was deeply spiritual. It just came to me. Like, I always had the name before I even had a project put together. I was like, one day I'm gonna do a project that's gonna be called Alligator Bites Never Heal
Starting point is 00:06:18 and the musical makes sense with it one day. I was like, you've been thought of this. Mm-hmm, yes ma'am. Now you talk about changing and things that you like about yourself and don't like about yourself. What did you see that you didn't like about yourself? I think when I was creating this project, I was always drunk, always drinking, always partying, and I couldn't recognize myself at all because I wasn't really myself.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I was intoxicated whether I'm smoking, I'm't really myself. I was intoxicated, whether I'm smoking, I'm drinking, or whatever. And I wasn't liking the person that was reflecting back at me. And I was like, okay, I think it's time to like, sober up, and I need to just get away from people and figure out who am I right now? Because I feel like I was carrying this version of myself
Starting point is 00:07:03 that I had been since I was like 20, 21, you know what I mean? And it was no longer serving who I was to become. And when it was no longer serving me, I was like, OK, let's make a change. And I felt heavily inspired and I made the album. Bada bing, bada boom. I'm in a data suit. You know, when you get to that point, you know, in denial is a river. You talk about that a lot. You talk about, you know? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:25 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:32 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:39 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I don't think I was ever lying to myself. Denial is a River, I titled it that because I was dealing with somebody
Starting point is 00:07:48 who was lying to themselves. But anyways, I came to that point when I realized that I couldn't create music without drinking in the studio. And that was my breaking point where I was like, oh, I have truly forgotten the source of my creativity, the source of who I am. And I'm looking for things outside of me to be myself.
Starting point is 00:08:12 That's weird. Did Wendy Williams influence the Niles River? Yeah. That quote. Wow. Yeah. So you was in a situation like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Wow. Don't say that again like that. Is it shocking? I mean no, not in 2024. It's not shocking. How do you deal with that when you find that out? I mean, that was never the problem. I think the problem was that you cheated on me.
Starting point is 00:08:44 You also could have let me know up front, you know, what your style was. I'm bisexual. That's cool. I've dated a bisexual man. No problem. It's different when it's a man. Let me know what it is up front.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah. Keep your mania on you. Let me know what it is up front. I'll accept you for who you are. It doesn't really matter. I think it's like cheating on top of lying and secrecy about just who you are as a person. So you wouldn't have a problem dating,
Starting point is 00:09:07 oh you dated a bisexual man. Absolutely. 100%. That's what the song is about. That's what we, It's like how can I be bisexual and then I'm gonna not date somebody who's bisexual. Why, because he's a man? Cause people look at it differently.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yes. People look at it differently. It's in this world, it's okay for another woman to be with another woman, but for a man to be with another woman, but for a man to be with another woman, people look at that differently in a bisexual relationship. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I don't. I don't see it that way. I really don't. I think that sexuality is fluid and I really don't give a damn. Because then that's contradicting. It is. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah. Yeah, how could I sit up here and be bisexual and they be like, oh no, he bisexual. I can't, girl, whatever. So what's your relationship like now? Cause I saw where you said you have a girlfriend now. Yeah, it's wonderful. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Oh, she giddy. Oh yeah. Does she trust you? Oh my God. I did. I'm just saying. Yeah, I would hope so. Hey yo.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Jesus. Yes, she does. Okay, okay, okay. I love the fact that you also name songs after things that I love, cause Iall. She does. Yes, she does. OK. OK. OK. I love the fact that you also name songs after things that I love, because I'm from the South. You literally look like you just don't age. You look fantastic, by the way.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Don't you hear what I'm saying? You look really good. That's a goddamn lie. That's good. Tell me more. Hey. OK, as you were saying. But no, you named the songs after things that I love like boiled peanuts.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yes. Catfish. What you know about boiled peanuts? Where you from? I'm from Carolina. Hey! Come on now. Okay. Talking about fireflies.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Like what made you pay homage to those things? Just the little things that I like in Florida. The little things that make up the swamp. Just things that I think are cool. Even bullfrogs. You gotta be from the country to even know what a bullfrog is. Yeah, I hate those things. I only hear them. Even bullfrogs. You gotta be from the country to even know what a bullfrog is. I hate those things.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I only hear them. I don't know what that is. I've seen them. OK. Yeah. You people in the South like the little states. I know. I'm over here like the you people.
Starting point is 00:10:55 He's like fireflies. You can't even get in the home of oil peanuts. You people? It's beautiful. Ooh. What? You showing off your white side. We don't want to hear you say nigga no more.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Shut up. Oh, shut up. Now, speaking of that. Oh, god. Kendrick sent you You showing off your white side. We don't want to hear you say nigga no more. Yo, shut up. Speaking of that, Kendrick sent you the hardest out. He did. How did that make you feel? That was great. It's Kendrick. I was like, I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:14 He didn't say she hard. He said the hardest out, period. With a period. And men don't even be using periods. So that's a big deal. These niggas, nah, they do. Has he given you that validation offline too? We've actually never met in person.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I haven't met him in person yet, but he has given me my props publicly, which is incredible. And the day I meet him, ciao. It's gonna be a really good time. Had y'all spoke before that? So you've never even spoken? I've never met Kendrick. Never met him, never spoke to him, ciao. It's gonna be a really good time. Had y'all spoke before that or? Mm-mm. So you've never even spoken?
Starting point is 00:11:46 I've never met Kendrick. Never met him, never spoke to him, no nothing. He just randomly posted. Wow. You were assigned to TDE for four years, and you didn't drop anything with him. No, I didn't. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:11:59 It took me a really, really long time to figure out the direction of where I wanted to go with my music. And I think that we were dropping singles and it's like, time had gone by and I was trying to discover who I was musically through singles and I couldn't discover that
Starting point is 00:12:21 through a full body project. And I was like, I need to drop a mix tape and get something out so that I can have a project to measure up to. You know you have artists that are single artists and then you have artists that are like conceptual album artists. And I think that I'm that type of artist
Starting point is 00:12:37 and I couldn't see that because I had never dropped a project before. So it was like four years went by and I got 10 singles. I was like, listen, we gotta let something go as soon as possible. But yeah. Was it a fight, was Top and Punch against it? No, I don't think that, I actually don't work with Punch.
Starting point is 00:12:57 But no, it's not that they were against it. It was just a lot of back and forth about what it is that I wanted to say. And do we wanna go this direction? Do we wanna go that direction? Do I want pop? What type of artist do I wanna be? And it took me a minute to kinda figure that out.
Starting point is 00:13:17 How big is T.D. that you don't work with Punch? I mean Punch is heavily in with SZA. And I mean SZA's a global superstar. She's busy so. SZA shows you mad mean SZA's a global superstar, she's busy. SZA shows you mad love though. Yeah, that's my girl. That's my girl, she's incredible. So when you're creating, it's just you in the studio?
Starting point is 00:13:33 Yeah. Wow. Damn. I don't like anybody in the studio. Now there's rumors that, you know, you haven't met Kendrick, but there's rumors that you're gonna be meeting him soon, because they said that you possibly are going out on tour with Kendrick and SZA, is there any truth to that?
Starting point is 00:13:49 You can lie about everything else, but you can't keep that one. Y'all, please, I have not met Kendrick. I don't know what Kendrick has up his sleeve. I don't know what's to come, but I know that I am prepared to receive any opportunity that comes my way, but truly, I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I heard you want his Deluxe album on the next project you're up on. I'm sorry? Yeah. How I'm on it, I ain't never even met him. I don't know. Y'all can send records back and forth. I have no idea where he has us to be asleep.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I don't know what's going on. You going to the Super Bowl? I don't know. You performing at the Super Bowl? I have no idea what's going on. You going to the Super Bowl? I don't know. You performing at the Super Bowl? I have no idea what is going on. I love your song Bloom too. Thank you. You talk about constantly neglecting important aspects in your life, like checking on your family,
Starting point is 00:14:38 making time for yourself. You've only gotten more busy. You're only getting more money, so how are you balancing those things? I am balancing them. Listen, I use D&D to the fullest You know, you're only getting more money, so how are you balancing those things now? I am balancing them, listen, I use D&D to the fullest of my potential. When I'm off work, I am truly off work. That's how I have my balance.
Starting point is 00:14:53 When I have my me time, that's my me time. And if I need three days where it's nothing and nobody, I'm gonna take that time. So that's how I keep my balance. It's just shutting everybody out when I need me time. Has family gotten more aggressive? Because you know you are. Aggressive.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I mean you're more visible now, like people see you now, a lot of people talking about you and you know sometimes they think that you got more than you got. People's families get aggressive? Oh yeah, like we used to be a hundred dollars. Especially around the holiday season. What?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Especially around the holiday season. Nah, not my family, not my family. Our family's very, very supportive of me. They hold me down, like big time. I was just at my Tampa show. My entire family came, like half my family was the goddamn audience. I was like, y'all are pushing my fans out the way, so nah.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Did your label really tell you not to put out so much rap back to back? Who said that? Online, it's a bunch of stuff online. Yeah. Rap to rap back to back. Who said that? Online, it's a bunch of stuff online. Yeah. Rap to rap back to back? No, not to put out so much rap back to back. Like not to...
Starting point is 00:15:51 So much hip hop music in the air. No. So much, yeah. No, they didn't. People be lying. Why would they not want me to rap? That's the point, I don't know. I just, I seen it, I wanted to hear it from your mouth.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yeah, no. Do you still have a Nissan Altima? Hell no. No, no. Do you still have a Nissan Altima? Hell no. No, but it's crazy. I actually just, I got rid of it, the video that we shot. That was when I got rid of it. Why would you get rid of it? That was the first car that the label got me
Starting point is 00:16:17 when I first got here. I didn't have a car and they got me a Nissan. The label bought you a Nissan Altima when you got the deal? Come on, Top. Damn. He got me a Nissan Altima to start with. Top bought you a Nissan Altima, what year was it?
Starting point is 00:16:24 He didn't buy me a Nissan Altima. He just said drive? Come on, Top. Damn. He got me a Nissan Altima to start with. Top bought you a Nissan Altima? What year was it? He didn't buy me a Nissan Altima. Oh, he just said drive. He gave me a Nissan. I didn't have a car, I didn't have no money. It was like, look little lady, you need to take it easy. You gotta crawl, fly your balls. That's good, though.
Starting point is 00:16:38 He gave me a Nissan, I crashed it. It was horrible. And that's the reason why they gave you that Nissan Altima. Damn. Was it a new one? I don't drive. No. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I had never had a car before either, and I didn't drive. So. Wait a minute. Come on out. Explain this to me again. Before I got signed, I never had a car before. Okay. And I didn't drive.
Starting point is 00:16:57 So I came here, and I was like, I need to learn how to drive, and I need a car, I need to get around. So they were like, here, you can just try your best with this one. Did you have a license? It was horrible. I did have a license. Okay. But I didn't drive.
Starting point is 00:17:08 How'd you crash in New York? What you mean? In New York. From the country. It was a culture shock when I first started driving. LA. Oh LA, okay. LA.
Starting point is 00:17:16 LA is stressful driving. It's too much. I get anxiety. Even to this day, I don't drive. It's too much. But yeah, I wrecked the car. It was horrible. No, look, no, they said they didn't, I wrecked the car, it was horrible. So it's the right song.
Starting point is 00:17:25 No, look, no, they said they didn't want a ton of hard rap songs back to back. Like they wanted you to spread them out. Jess is like, you just keep up. Nah, I'm serious. No, no, no. Jess is like, I heard this rumor. This is what they sang. So, alright, alright, so she said no.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Nah, nah, nah, nah. T.D.'s gonna always push me and want me to rap. Like, that's the core of the label. On the song, Nissan Altima, you say she's munching on the box while she watching Hulu. Absolutely. How does she do that? Who's, you know, I'm old so you gotta school me.
Starting point is 00:17:55 When you say she, you talking about she's munching the box while she watching Hulu, but the she watching Hulu is you. It could be more than two girls in there. It could be, yeah, you never know. You don't know what's going on. It's a lot of girls in there. It could be two, it could be three, it could be six. Because if she watching Hulu how she munching the box at the same time? It could be one more. You gotta focus. That's not true. Well she's terrible
Starting point is 00:18:16 at her job. Women can multitask. You got to do a visual for this song. Women can multitask. You would be surprised what can go down in these lesbian relationships. You can multitask. You would be surprised what can go down in these lesbian relationships. You can do a lot. You could save world hunger and still eat the box at the same time. Skylight frame is more than just a photo frame. It's the perfect way to keep loved ones close no matter the distance. With skylight, you can share the joy of a special moment, a silly snapshot, or a treasured memory instantly,
Starting point is 00:18:49 making it the perfect present for anyone who values connection and family. Millions of families have fallen in love with their Skylight frame. It's perfect for parents and grandparents with a simple, user-friendly design. This holiday season, give the gift that keeps on giving memories.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Whether it's for grandparents who adore seeing the grandkids' latest antics, or a friend who loves capturing every moment, the Skylight Frame is the perfect gift to bring joy and connection into any home. For a limited time, get 20% off your purchase of a Skylight Frame when you go to ca.skylightframe.com slash comedy. That's right, save 20% off your Skylight Frame when you go to ca.skylightframe.com slash comedy.
Starting point is 00:19:25 That's right. Save 20% off your Skylight Frame at ca.skylightframe.com slash comedy. That's ca.SKYLIGHTFRAME.com slash comedy. Hi, I'm David Bordy. And I'm his grandson, Langston Kerman. And we host My Mama Told Me, a podcast about black conspiracy theories. And more importantly, we are here
Starting point is 00:19:50 to tell you about a very spectacular live episode we have coming out. It features some of your favorite comedians in the world. David, tell them who. We got the Kid Mero. We got Marie Faustin. And we have Jaboukie Young White.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Truly a phenomenal episode featuring some of your favorite Kid Merrill, we got Marie Faustin and we have Jaboukie Young White. Truly a phenomenal episode featuring some of your favorite comedians playing some of the most offensive and groundbreaking games possible. The audience was amazing. We shot it all in Brooklyn. You're not going to want to miss it. Let's get nasty. So listen to my mama told me on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. We want to speak out. We want to raise awareness and we want this to stop. Wow. Very powerful. I'm Ellie Flynn and I'm an investigative journalist. When a group of models from the UK wanted my help,
Starting point is 00:20:46 I went on a journey deep into the heart of the adult entertainment industry. I really wanted to be a Playboy model. Lingerie, topless. I said yes please. Because at the centre of this murky world is an alleged predator. You know who he is because of his pattern of behavior. He's just spinning the web for you to get trapped in it. He's everywhere, and has been everywhere.
Starting point is 00:21:10 It's so much worse and so much more widespread than I had anticipated. Together, we're going to expose him and the rotten industry he works in. It's not just me. We're an army in comparison to him. Listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and my latest interview is with Wiz Khalifa. The craziest part of my life, I can go from performing in front of 40,000 people to either being in a dressing room, being in a plane,
Starting point is 00:21:46 or being back in a bed all by myself. He is a multi-platinum selling recording artist, mini mogul, and an actor. Which among the one, the only, Wins Khalifa. Did you feel like a big break was coming? I didn't know what that big break looked or felt like, but I knew that what I was doing was working. The gangbanging
Starting point is 00:22:05 and the drug selling, that's not really for me. But the looking cool, the having girls, and making music, I'm like, I like that part of it. How was that experience for you? Losing someone so close to you that you love? I am grateful that I was able to have the last moments that I had and to be able to prepare for it. It was something that I'm still dealing with. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Martha Stewart has been a household name for over four decades and still isn't done. Join iHeart media chairman and CEO Bob Pittman for a special episode of the hit podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing,
Starting point is 00:22:48 as he interviews this icon in front of a live audience to celebrate her 100th book, Martha, the Cookbook, 100 Favorite Recipes, with lessons and stories from my kitchen. Did you ever think you were going to wind up writing 100 books? Yeah. You did?
Starting point is 00:23:04 Yeah, it's just a minor goal. This intimate and wide-ranging conversation between friends covers the pivotal decisions in Martha's career, the philosophy that has guided her, and the source of so much of her creative inspiration. They actually looked at the July issue that I had prototyped, and they said, this is fabulous. What would you do next July? And I said, well, living is a limitless subject matter. Listen to math and magic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:23:33 World hunger? Maybe. No, it's just interesting. That's why I say I love the title of your songs because it's like, it's clearly just a feeling, right? Like you write these records and you're like, what does this record feel like? This record feels like a Nissan Altima.
Starting point is 00:23:50 It does. I was like, cause that record to me, it feels like when you like freestyling with your girls and you're just smoking in the car and y'all freestyling. That's what it gives me. I also wondered too with TDE, was there ever like, I don't want to say pushback, but it's like they have a scissor, right?
Starting point is 00:24:04 So it's like, if you started, when you do like to sing sometimes, do they ever discourage you from doing that? Like, no, just stick to it. You know what I'm saying? Never, never. They don't, my label does not bother me in the studio. Like, I don't like people in the studio with me.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I like to record alone. I'm by myself. Nobody's interrupting me. It's just like, do your thing. I sing, I sing. I got what it is. That's nothing, that's a full singing song. There's no rap on there. Like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:30 The reason I ask is because on Boom Bap users, like, I just can't sing a little bit? No, because literally. I felt like with Boom Bap, it was like, I'm internalizing all of the chatter that I'm getting from fans, from haters, from major label, from the guys like, oh yeah, we really like when you rap.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Now we really like when you sing. She should keep doing the pop, she should keep doing this. And I was just too focused on what everybody else wanted for Dolce versus what Dolce wanted for Dolce. Is that a diamond tester? Yes. All right. You know these rappers be coming in here
Starting point is 00:25:07 with the fake jewelry. So y'all check y'all clocking them? What? That's scary. There's gotta be some form of bullying. No. We just checked my ring the other day. Like what?
Starting point is 00:25:17 You see yourself. Crazy. I wanted to ask too. She checked mine. She checked mine. She checked mine. Now you talk earlier about, you know, you were drinking and you were using drugs and alcohol as a crutch, right, when performing. Were you nervous about doing this project, not drinking? Like, is it gonna come, am I gonna sound the same? Am I gonna sound good?
Starting point is 00:25:35 I was terrified. I was terrified because I was like, I don't know if people want to hear these dark topics. I don't know if anybody wants to hear this right now. I feel like there was a period in music where everybody was like, shut up with that constant, don't nobody wanna hear all that. People just wanna have fun right now. We got out of COVID, don't nobody wanna be sad, da da da da, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:25:57 I don't want my fans to listen to my music and be sad. I want them to feel good about themselves. But it's also like, if I'm'm I have to make music for therapy for my myself otherwise I'm doing it for the wrong reasons and then I was like well this is my truth this is where I am in my life right now somebody else got to be dealing with this shit too and even if they not I don't give a fuck what became the new crutch or if there is a new crutch like usually people get rid of drinking and they smoke or they get rid of smoke and they start having sex
Starting point is 00:26:27 or they watch this. Like what was, what's the new crutch if there is one? Knock it off. I think the new crutch is music. I am, I don't vape, I don't smoke nicotine. I don't do none of, at least right now in this season of my life. Cause what works for me now is what works for me now.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I might run right back to the bottle. When I turn 30, who knows? That's my business. But I think that this serves me, and my new crutch is just my music and sobriety. It feels better to be sober right now. Got you. I don't think your generation knows how courageous y'all are.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And what I mean by that is, it's like, you know, for us, we weren't talking about mental health. We weren't talking about anxiety. We weren't talking about depression. But you know, you get older, you start doing the work on yourself. We didn't have nobody provide no soundtracks for us. But it's like, now it's to you, it's to Kendrix, it's to Rhapsody. Like, y'all are not afraid to put that type of stuff in y'all music.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah. I think that is important too. I feel like especially in hip hop right now, it should be reflecting real life situations and real things that are going on. I feel like there is a overload of distractions and materialism and things like that. We need to balance it with that heart and that consciousness and a self-awareness.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And that's what I'm contributing right now. I'm gonna be popping ass soon though, so. I don't know why. You say that, what was that song on MPH, where you say I could give them the conscious shit, but I'm too busy giving them the kind. Too busy giving them the kind, mm-hmm. It's like, there's so many layers to me as a woman,
Starting point is 00:28:01 and I'm gonna express them all, all the time. I'm never gonna box myself in like, oh I'm only gonna talk about this, I'm only gonna, this is real rap, cause you talk about that, that's not true. I just think that I'm telling my truth right now and this is my truth. But I'm not righteous.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Glock it. Well the yin and the yang of life is righteousness and ratchetness. Ooh! It's the perfect balance. See? Yeah, it's the perfect balance. I like that. You got anybody you wanna collaborate with? Like you just, it's been. See? Yeah, the perfect balance. I like that.
Starting point is 00:28:25 You got anybody you want to collaborate with? Like you've just been a dream? No? Damn, no. I'm popping right now. I don't give a shit about nothing y'all got going on. No, no, no. I think that I've gotten all my collaborations that I want.
Starting point is 00:28:37 That Tyler one really did it for me. That was like top of my list. I have always wanted to collaborate with Tyler the Creator. I have my collab. Oh, Beyonce and Kendrick Lamar. Got you. Top collaborations. Other than that, I'm coolin'.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Beyonce gave you props too. She listed you as one of her favorite rappers. She did, that was crazy. Have you met her? I haven't. God damn, who have you met? You stay in the house, yeah. Who are you talking to, girl?
Starting point is 00:28:59 You speak to anybody? I ain't in the house. But you performed in LA for Renaissance, right? I did. OK, you just still didn't get to meet him. No, we didn't meet. Because I heard a lot about your performance. It was lit and everything.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And I thought you would have been popping bottles in the back. OK, no. What time did you go on that you didn't meet the other? So you didn't even see him? We got that opportunity kind of last minute. I think it may have, I found out what, a day or two days before the show or something. And again, global superstar, super busy woman. She has her children with her on tour.
Starting point is 00:29:32 She don't got time, like you know what I mean? But I think in the, when it's the right time, we'll meet each other. And that recognition and validation mean anything to you? From Beyonce, absolutely. Absolutely. mean anything to you? From Beyonce, absolutely, absolutely. I trust her to pick the best talent and the best people that she surrounds herself with.
Starting point is 00:29:52 When I went and I opened up, her production team, flawless, her team was incredible. So I knew her inviting me was validation that I'm doing something right and I'm performing to some level of excellence, which was incredible. How do you deal with your anxiety now? Cause you know, the crowds only gonna get bigger.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Lot more eyeballs on you. And you know, sometimes when I see you out, it feels like, I guess that's your bodyguard. You always, like you're always holding his hand. Is that like your safety blanket? I just don't like people too close to me. And that's all. I think I just hold his hand so that we can move
Starting point is 00:30:27 through the crowd, cause sometimes you can just chill. Yeah. So what are you doing to just deal with anxiety in general? Like before you hit the stage? I don't feel any anxiety when I'm on stage or when I'm at shows or I like this environment. I like my job. I fuck with it.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah. What about interviews? Hello. Interviews. No, I'm just kidding. I like interviews. This interview, however, made me a little I was like, I don't know. Why? You're a bit unpredictable. Yeah, you're a little unpredictable. That's how. Last time you said we had a great time. It was great. It was great. But I was like, I don't know, you know, I don't know what type of head space he gonna be on,
Starting point is 00:31:06 you know. Did he say his manager's gonna be at it? I don't know where he gonna be at with it, but I mean. I feel that every morning. I'm coolin'. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Top Dog said that Alligator Bites Never Heal,
Starting point is 00:31:18 he said it had the same vibe as Section 80. He did say that. He said he had the same feeling that he did when Kendrick dropped Section 80. Meaning like this is our next superstar. I won't speak for him, but. I told him that though. He sent me the album a while before it came out.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And I was just like. What'd you think about it? I said she's out. I was on the air talking about it. I was like, yo, I heard those about it. She's out of here. Like I literally was like, yo, she's out of here. Thank you. She got it. I always give you props up there all the time. And I literally was like, yo, she's out of here. Like, she got it.
Starting point is 00:31:45 She always give you props up there like all the time. And I want to say thank you, Jess, cause you do. You always give me my props. Everything that you have said about me is just, you always esteem me and I really appreciate it. Even before all the hype, you was like, I fuck with Dochi. That's right. Yeah, she loved that Stanky Poochie record.
Starting point is 00:32:03 First of all, it's not a Stanky Poochie. It's Spooky Poochie. Spooky Poochie. Oh no, Stanky Poochie record. First of all, it's not a Stanky Poochie. It's Spooky Poochie. Spooky Poochie. Oh no, Stanky Poochie is on the first one, the newer. Stanky Poochie is insane. What's the no A in this record on the newer called Stanky Poopy? Stanky Poo?
Starting point is 00:32:13 Stanky Poo. Stanky Poo. Stanky Poo. Yes, that's a real Southern thing. Was that like your nickname growing up or something? Stanky Poo, yeah. Stanky Poo. Aw.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Is it true that you completed this project a month before it was released? Absolutely. Damn. What? Absolutely. Damn. What? Yeah. That's all it took?
Starting point is 00:32:28 No, I needed it. It was something in my spirit that was like, you need to drop this project now. If you don't drop this project now, you gonna miss the mark. And I was like, I got to get this out right now. I don't know why, but God was just tugging on my spirit. Like it's time to go. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah. How often do you, and that's a stupid question, but how often do you listen to the Spirit of God? Because sometimes God will tell you to move and we don't move. I only, I'm only not listening to the Spirit of God when I am distracted internally. That's why I keep telling y'all this sobriety thing.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I hear from God better when I'm sober and I'm clear-minded. So it's like I only veer off of that when I distract myself with other things outside of me. And sometimes those other things are people, humans. No. That are with you when you're watching Hulu. Man, why? I was trying to, no. He's great. He's coming back to this. I can't imagine it. How does it feel when you talk about all the albums that came out this year and they talk about yours
Starting point is 00:33:34 as being one of the top five or the best, when they talk about Kendrick's album, your album, what's some of the other albums you named this week when you talk about the albums came in and her albums like top five of the best albums that came out this year, Glow Realize album. Yeah, Glow, Taladacreta. How does it feel to be on the top of those lists
Starting point is 00:33:48 when it comes to putting out music? Because that's what you do it for. You want people to receive it well. So how does that feel? Yeah, feels like they're accurate. They're right. It should be there. It feels really, really good.
Starting point is 00:33:59 You ever feel a moment of they didn't understand it first and now people are starting to get it? I think people are still kind of trying to get it. Yeah. Still. I don't know, yeah, I've kind of felt like niche at first. I think people are just kind of like, what's her vibe, what's going on? She's in underwear, she's rapping about this.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I don't really get this girl with tape on her face. And they're trying to figure it out. I don't know. But you do this thing, you capture somebody's attention, you make people want to pay attention more, because that's how I got onto you. I'm like, dang, what is this? You are different.
Starting point is 00:34:36 That's why I didn't know you were from San Francisco, just from San because you can't put you in a specific place. And then your projects before, nothing sounds like the previous one. Like you offer so many different, like a variety of sounds. So I think the fact that they're trying to catch on, that's still good, that's what you want,
Starting point is 00:34:56 because you don't fall in the box with nobody else. Yeah. I think that it's like a little alien. They have to like, you have to digest it, and I think you need context, because you'll listen to one song, but then you'll listen to like, you have to digest it. And I think you need context because you'll listen to one song but then you'll listen to another. And it's like, when you listen to the full project
Starting point is 00:35:11 I think it comes together for people. You kind of got to dive in a song. Oh, oh, oh, oh. She is so animated. I think it's dope that they can't put you in a box though. Like if you listen to a song like All the Ego or Nissan Altima, you like, what is this? Who is this? I think it's dope that they can't put you in a box though. Like if you listen to a song like Althe Eagle or Nissan Altima, you like, what is this? Who is this?
Starting point is 00:35:26 I think it's just hard for people because in order to get an understanding, you have to say, oh, well, you know, she sounds like this or she sounds like that. So people know what they expect. But I think not knowing what they expect is even better. Yeah, I agree. I think that my goal is to eventually just be in my,
Starting point is 00:35:43 my own lane, my own thing. It's kind of like what I admired about Missy Elliott when she came out. It was like Missy Elliott rapped and sing, but she rapped in a way that was just, she's just Missy. You know what I mean? She kinda like separated herself, and I think that's the goal.
Starting point is 00:35:59 What type of conversations is Dochi having with herself nowadays? Are you safe with yourself? I am, a lot of the conversations that I'm having is, I'm trying to... Say the right thing in interviews. No, I find myself, I'm trying to ground myself right now. It's kind of like a lot of things are happening at once
Starting point is 00:36:27 and that happened to me when I first got signed and it overwhelmed me and I'm trying to learn from that and ground myself. I feel like I'm walking on a cloud, like on air and I need to ground myself constantly and be like, okay, calm down, you're safe. Good things are happening and because good things are happening, it doesn't mean that something bad is gonna happen, this is okay.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And that's what I'm practicing. How do you process your mistakes nowadays? Through my music and through honesty and admitting that I made a damn mistake and then talking about it in my music. I don't like secrets. And I have to tell my business on wax. I don't know. Have you and Azalea Banks spoke since that last back and forth? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah. No. Yeah. It seemed like you ain't even wanted to be a beef cause it's like, nah, but. Yeah, no, that tea is stale. It's like what? Yeah. It's like, it's whatever, you know? Now back to what I was saying they were saying that
Starting point is 00:37:30 Don't worry about it, okay Okay, because she seems like the type of person that you could talk to yes because Okay, because she seems like the type of person that you could talk to. Yes. Because y'all have had a similar trajectory. It's something I... Really? The reason I say that is because I love the way TDE does it with their artists. I know it may seem frustrating to the artists, but it feels like they're one of the last few people who actually do artist development.
Starting point is 00:37:56 So you watch these people grow and then become these big superstars. Yeah. So she seems like the type of person you could talk to about everything you're experiencing now. Absolutely. I could call her and I could talk to her about the simplest things or I could call her and be like, I'm having an existential crisis. She'd be like, what's up, Dochi?
Starting point is 00:38:15 Yeah, that's dope. So it feels good to just know that I still can do that and she knows she can do the same with me, which is fire. Well, we know Dolce is busy. That's right. She told us she had to be out here at a certain time. Let's play a joint off the album. What you wanna hear?
Starting point is 00:38:30 I wanna hear GTFO. Ooh. GTFO. Okay. Well, let's get into it right now. And we appreciate you. What's that? How you pronounce that name?
Starting point is 00:38:39 Cunt Fetish? Yeah. Okay. It says Cunt Fetish. How you pronounce it? It says Cunt Fetish. I don't know, man. She's so fire. It could have been cuntifitish.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Shout out to cuntifitish? No, not the Nigerian cuntifitish. Y'all check out cunt fetish. Shout out to her. I'm gonna give her a spotlight in her moment. Check out her music. She's really dope. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Ladies and gentlemen, it's Dochi. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake that ass up. In the morning.
Starting point is 00:39:03 The Breakfast Club. Hi, I'm David Bore. And I am his dear friend Langston Kerman. And we host My Mama Told Me, a podcast about black conspiracy theories. We just did a spectacular live show with some of your favorite comedians on the planet. David, tell them who was there.
Starting point is 00:39:27 We had the Kid Mero, Marie Faustin, and we had Jaboukie Young White. Some of your favorite comedians playing some of the most offensive and groundbreaking games. So listen to My Mama Told Me on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We want to speak out and we want this to stop. Wow, very powerful.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I'm Ellie Flynn, an investigative journalist, and this is my journey deep into the adult entertainment industry. I really wanted to be a player boy, my doll. He was like, I'll take you to the top, I'll make you a star. To expose an alleged predator and the rotten industry he works in. It's honestly so much worse than I had anticipated. We're an army in comparison to him. From Novel, listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and my latest interview is with Wiz Khalifa. The craziest part of my life, I can go from performing in front of 40,000 people to either be in a dressing room, being in a plane, or being back in a bed all by myself. He is a multi-platinum selling recording artist, mini mogul, and an actor. Which one of the one, the only, Rich Khalifa! Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Starting point is 00:40:44 you get your podcasts. Join iHeart Media Chairman and CEO Bob Pittman for a special episode of the hit podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing, as he interviews the iconic and prolific Martha Stewart in front of a live audience in celebration of her 100th book. Did you ever think you were gonna to wind up writing a hundred books? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:07 You did? Yeah, it's just a minor goal. Listen to Math and Magic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's John, also known as Dr. John Paul. And I'm Jordan, or Joe Ho. And we are the BlackFatFilm Podcast. A podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Ooh chat, this year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey show, Angelica Ross and more. Make sure you listen to the BlackFatFilm Podcast on the iHeHeart Radio app, have a podcast or whatever you get your podcast girl. Oh I know that's right.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.