The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Donnell Rawlings Defends His Character, Speaks On Getting Booed + More

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Donnell Rawlings And He Defends His Character, Speaks On Getting Booed. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Queen you always been a queen. Good morning. It's a queen missing today. You won't be booed in here. It's okay I don't okay. I don't understand what that means. I don't get booed Sometimes it might be a situation where there's a misunderstanding But I don't get booed. You can't, you don't know a person that knows that. What happened? What happened with what? Boo! So we were watching something online and it was a roast.

They was coming for you. And they were booing you. Every time you spoke, they booed you. Right. What happened, Donnell? All right, this is, I don't really like to, I really wanted to start this interview in a positive note. As much as I can't stand y'all in the absence of somebody where's he he's at a strip club dropping like it's hot somewhere

There was a very viral video that went down and look very very suspect. It was my video It was your video there was someone that was driving like hot in a velour sweatsuit one of the most Ratchet things you can do as a human Okay back to you. do as a human. Okay, back to the question. I was uh a lot of people don't know what you're talking about. Well, you were doing a a roast. Uh you were hosting roast. It was you. I wasn't hosting. I wasn't hosting. I was explaining. What are you doing there? First off, I was I was in Los Angeles, California and I had the opportunity to

meet with somebody that regard in in the highest manner that that uh you know I came in here and I've sung the I lose control song for the longest time probably for the last couple of years. I've been using as a correct Teddy Swim. So, I had the opportunity actually we were like connected through DM and oh that sounds sketchy as **** We were um connected through social media and I had the opportunity to uh meet him in person. Hung out with him, and that turned, what are you doing?

I just, you know, like exclusives, I just want people to see you after the bullying situation, and I can confirm that you're good. So, I had a chance to hang out with Teddy Swin, and we had some uh that night we had some adult beverages. Yeah. You were drinking liquor.

We were drinking liquor. A lot of it. And what I learned that night was that you can't go toe for toe doing shots with Teddy Swim or Lauren. I don't know if you ever drank. I was about to ask you do you want because you know how we come on. We've been having a good time. No no no no no.

According to the streets there I need to slow down on my drinking. I think so. I didn't ask for your opinion, Mr. Perfect. Went to a comedy roast hosted by Jeff Ross and the Negro. After the shots. After the shots. And it was a platform where comics go on stage, and they do they three or four minutes worth of roasting.

And then you as a guest host or not a host, a guest judge, you critique those people on what you thought their comedy meant. Right. Or in that moment. Correct. And I didn't have a lot of favorable things to say about them, to which the Negro on the show

encouraged the audience whenever I spoke to Boo Me. So to your point of a boo. Boo! He told me to do it. You said the Negro said when you speak. How long were you going to do this? I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, I'm not doing it. And it was a situation. It was a misunderstanding. They booed me, but it wasn't like a boo boo. No, no. They booed you. It was a bunch of boo. It wasn't a boo. It wasn't a boo like that. You got different boos. You got the fuck out of here boo. You just shit is corny boo.

Then you got a boo that when people, when they encourage someone to do that. And that's what happened that night. You know, they booed you. They booed you a lot. Every time you spoke, you got on stage, they booed you. How did it make you feel? It didn't make me feel anything.

You too old to be getting booed. No, I'm too funny to be getting booed. That too. No, I'm not. Cause you actually are, like I told you, like when I saw you at Radio City Music Hall, I was like, I've seen you before, and I was like, you're funny.

There you go cutting people off again. Period. Jesus Christ. I would say you're gonna go on Instagram Live, but they're gonna be in the comments and not caring. There you go cutting people off again. Oh man, I see what that means now. I write down.

Jesus Christ. Do we raise our hand, can we get a bail or something? God damn, order in the court. There's a lot of people missing in here today. That's why you dressed like that? What? You came in here thinking this was court. No, I just feel like an adult today.

Can I ask you a real question? Donnell Rawlins is here, and if you haven't seen the video, yes, he was booed and the host of the show told him every time he spoke to Boomb, I thought it was hilarious. Of course you are, you're a was hilarious. Of course you are. You're a negative person. Of course you are.

No, but I actually like you. But do you think- I'm not concerned about you liking me, Evie. All right. Okay. Fine. But seriously, do you think people take you serious enough? Do you feel like they play with you too much?

Because I feel like they wouldn't play with certain comics like that, but they feel like they play with you all the time like that yeah yeah they play too much my whole life play too much my whole life people thought I played too much when I was Korea they didn't know how to say this nigga played too much in Korean so they would say too much a game play and I was that's me I'm a game play motherfucker I'm in the right position they just said that all the time you are too much a game play every day you why all the. I'm not being funny that's how the Koreans talk. Why you every day? They just get upset with me. Lawlis you every day. You

all the time bullshit all the time. You don't speak Korean now shut up and be quiet. But why do they play with you? But why do they play with you? Like they don't play with Kells, they don't play with Duval, they don't play with any of the comedians that's on this wall, but they play with you all the time. It's like they almost try to take the fact that you are famous, the fact that you are successful, the fact that you are funny, and try to downplay it all the time.

Why do you think that is? You wanna know the real answer to that? Please. Because of you, motherfucker. What do you mean? You and this platform, that's why. Why? Because y'all play too much

I started with booty tricks y'all started with what black big asses and can I cut you off? With the booty tricks it started when you tried to come here and what it was something like with your dad at a book Remember the moment when you had Charlamagne's laughing at him. Yes. That's when you wrote a book about his dad First of all, you probably was in high school when I first started doing this show. Okay. So your facts are incorrect. That's not how it started. At what? The first time it stopped- The one that we- I'm cutting you off again.

Okay. No. You okay? I'm okay, yeah. All right, I'm just checking on you. Okay. The one that I most know of is the moment where your dad in the book, and I felt bad for you in that moment too, I Felt bad for myself at that moment. It was very very awkward He had a good time with that, you know I'm saying I when he speaks about his dad or whatever

I'm like, oh, that's so good fact that his father was a popo and in the military Our kind of paths were parallel. So I support him in a relationship he has with his father. Now when I wanted to get really serious and talk about some childhood trauma in my life they thought it was a joke. So back to your question, how did it start? And just to answer your question, you motherfucker, the lack of respect that you guys have had, but I've mustered through it, I'm a better person. So you think because you come up here and play with us you think people play with you?

Yeah, I think so. I think that's a part of it. Yeah, you seriously think that I answered the question once Yeah, but I was gonna be joking so you're gonna just keep asking questions. Do you get the answer that you want? That's what I do So, how do we change this narrative done now because I don't like the fact I mean, you know what it is You know, you know when you're dating somebody and you're like, I could argue with her, but nobody else can, I feel like that with us. Like, we can make fun of you,

but the world should be able to make fun of you. But, like, I feel like they take your comedy lightly. But we don't take your comedy lightly. Nobody takes my comedy lightly. We laugh at you. There's only a couple people that take my comedy lightly, and I don't care about that, but nobody takes me lightly.

It's just that, and I will say, wherever I go, the first thing they say is, why you let the Breakfast Club fuck with me like that? I said, I don't let them fuck with me. You don't just that, and I will say, wherever I go, the first thing they say is, why you let the Breakfast Club fuck with me like that? I said, I don't let them fuck with you. You don't fuck with you. You fuck with, yeah, like, you know, the praise. They're either like, they don't, they don't. I didn't interrupt that one.

Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Man, I said so many goddamn prayers before I came up here today, man. I wasn't, I didn't come here for that, Envy. I'm trying to talk to you because I really want

to get your feelings and your expressions out there because I don't like how people play with you. The booing thing is funny, it's hilarious. I thought it was funny. There's nothing funny about getting booed. It's the most traumatic thing you can deal with as a comedian, especially when you, when it's because you weren't funny.

The situation I had wasn't because I wasn't funny. It was just, it was a setup. That's what it was. But that's a lacquer. I didn't like watching it because I was like, okay, maybe this is what they do over there, but like I felt like it was a lack of respect and I don't like that.

I mean, it was, I wouldn't say it was a misunderstanding. Yo, there's no tricks going on to that. I promise you, there's no tricks. There's no tricks, I promise you. What the fuck is going on? He's traumatized. The door opened up, he's scared. And it started right here. I promise you. What the fuck is going on? He's traumatized. The door opened up.

He's scared. And it started right here. I don't know what's happening. Bro, nothing is going on today. I swear. There's no penis pins. There's nothing. We're just having a real conversation.

I don't have a... Listen, things happen. Mocha Menace is not here today. I noticed that. I feel so much better. Things happen. As a committee, things happen. And then at the end of the day is what you do with those things that have happened. That incident I had with Jeff

Ross and that roast battle, you know, there's a lot of things that could have happened that I could have switched the situation. I was lit. I'm not going to lie about that. But at the end of the day, it's what when things happen, it's like they always say, can you turn lemon into lemonade? So they tried to tackle mr. Crash out I am a crash out motherfuckers because of people in relationships that I have with people like yourself like with her she's absent today She he Queen Oh show me yeah, okay, man. It's yeah for the girls. What was that? When it's for the video you reference when Charlamagne was dropping it like it's hot

Yeah, and give it all ballroom in the the ballroom we call her Mocha Menace. Oh, Mocha Menace. What's up, Mocha Menace? And it wasn't like, it was like I practiced that. He practiced that at home, and he finally had the platform to drop it for everybody. I'm sure. But back to what I was saying, so how do you change that narrative? Because I feel like you let people trick you out of your position right it started with the when the community called you mild and

you was upset about that and you crashed out about that then with the booing you crashed out about that but because it's not true son there is nothing that's not there is nothing that's mild about me... There's nobody, I swear. It's not nothing that's happening. As soon as the door closes, you get scared. Yo, the reason why, because there's no facts to make that make sense. After 30 years doing comedy, I've never ever once heard anybody call me, Myle. So it's like this, it's like an assassination of somebody's character. When you put something out there and it's not true, you can be upset about it. I have to, and I'm thinking about getting a therapist,

I have to learn how to deal with stuff like that and not take it so personal. But there's a couple of words, there's N words in comedy that when you said people get offended about, corny and whack. Those two words is almost like fight words in comedy. And it's not a person, I'm not a person that had a career where I go back and forth, one year he's funny,

one year he's not, or that was okay. I've been tearing up stages forever. And that's not just me saying it, it's anybody that come on, any comment that come on this platform would agree that I'm a funny motherfucker. So when you put that out there, I take offense to it, but I shouldn't take it that serious.

And usually it's people like that, the ones that talk the most shit are the ones that doing the least shit in this business. Right, but you know, Charlamagne always says, nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining. But when you allow it and you crash out about it and it shows people you bother you,

people gonna keep attacking that same thing over and over and over again. I mean, you- And you allowed them to do it. I don't allow them to do anything. You're a perfect example of that because you fucking with me now. I'm not, I'm asking you questions. I'm not joking it. I don't know I'm doing thing you're perfect example of that because you fuck it with me now I'm not I'm asking you like I'm not joking you I don't trust I do not trust your face you don't but I

Don't but I'm asking I don't trust you why? You can go eight episodes and answer question. Why motherfuckers? It's a whole it's count as you put down a Ross breakfast up everything starts off But a goddamn joke so I don't trust you and I have my guards up. Are you really gonna do therapy? Like, is that a real thing? I think I possibly might need therapy. Because just in life, you have some things

you need to figure out or because the way, like you're not, like, you don't like the responses you're getting to your comedy. No, it's the relationship that I have with certain people. Okay. But now you know you part of the joke. Like me? You came up here and you bought us baby oil.

We barely know each other. Yeah. You bought us baby. Like you're part of the joke. Like it's not like we just crack on you. You crack on us. Well everything I know by the end of this conversation is going to be a real estate joke. I know that. I don't do real estate jokes no more. You don't do real estate. You've been, see, I'm just, that's not a joke. That's a, that's a, do you still do real estate? Do you still follow certain people on your Instagram page? See?

It's not a real estate joke, it's real. You don't do real estate. I do. Okay, I didn't know. It's not as promoted as it used to be. See? That's not a joke. But I know I'ma get that from you,

but it doesn't bother me, it doesn't affect me. Well, maybe with two different people, Envy. Why you turn around? Because I just don't feel comfortable with this situation. That's why. Yeah. So, what's next for you when it comes to comedy? Because it seems like-

Performing at City Winery in New York this weekend. It seems like you're always trying to prove yourself. I'm not trying to prove myself. That's next for me in comedy. Another thing that's next for me, I have this thing that I do called Don L land and it's something similar to what you do in regard to Providing something for the community. I do this five days in Yellow Springs, Ohio Which consists of a lot of activities for the family with the canoeing kayak and sound bath nature walk of Sunday fun day Celebrity cook kickball game streets versus the creek and then it comes to a climax on Monday,

Memorial Day Monday, with the River Run that we've had at least 400 people participate in that, and that's happening again this year, and that's the weekend of Memorial Day. That's what Darnell's doing. I love that. With Dave Chappelle, your close friend, what does he tell you when you go through

a lot of the stuff that you go through? Because, I mean, you put out a special special and I thought the special was hilarious, right? He tell me don't engage. But you do! So you don't listen to your friend that's filthy rich, that's been doing it. I don't listen to a lot of people, and that's why a lot of situations I get into. Because so many situations I've been in, it could have been like, why did you respond to that? I don't care how anybody wants to say it.

It's the hardest thing to do is not to respond to negativity. And part of, I know, whenever I sit hardest thing to do is not to respond to negativity. And part of, I know, whenever I sit down and talk to therapists, the first thing they're gonna do is tell me, Donnie, don't read the comments, to which I'm gonna read each and every one of those comments. You also be in the comments too. You in the comments too.

Yeah, but I mean. Every other page I go. No. Every other, yes, you on every page. Not every other, you calling me a hoe? I didn't say that, I just said I'm not calling y'all. I'm just uh, you Social media You for the tweets

There's so many comedians like you look at Gary Owen. Shut up. Don't say nothing because you'll get in trouble. You look at Ryan Davis. You look at all these comedians that want Netflix specials, that Netflix hasn't offered them anything, and you got a Netflix special. You're working on another one. So you're blessed beyond belief.

You're doing comedy in front of hundreds of thousands of people. So you get to the opportunities that most don't, but I feel like you always trying to prove yourself. I've heard those opportunities. And I just never understand why, because you're funny as shit. Like, you know, I come and support you. Right. It's just that-

I'm coming this weekend. Oh, I'm going to. I didn't invite you. I was going to tell you, you can't give me tickets. You're just going to barge in? Mm-hmm. All right. I know.

I can tell I hear you in the lobby. No, it's not, I'm telling you, a lot of things that I engage in, I shouldn't engage in, and that's part of me, that's part of me trying to find some growth, and that's part of me, I really do think that I probably could use or benefit from having a therapist or talking to a therapist. And it's something I had to deal with.

Until then, I'll continue to be funny, but I'll tell you one thing, that anytime I have an incident what it does to me It took for my fight back is that it makes me more creative It makes me want to go on stage and just destroy room and it makes me want to produce something funny even the incident That you're talking about with Jeff Ross and um I made a song about it The only way I could deal with it is to try to bring some human and really pushes me To be more creative and get in my production mode

That's what I do. That's why I fight. Why did you want to make a song? Because I was tired of explaining what happened that day and the song was lost control I lost control that day lost control when I had drinks with Teddy and I was like That's a funny way to address instead of me really Express how I feel like fuck the motherfuckers. I don't give a fuck by myself Why don't I try to make it funny and spin it and I'll take control of the narrative when I do stuff like that Next question now, what about you drinking it has your drinking been an issue in a problem? No, I've never been dropped problem Why are you looking me in my face like that? I?

Mean it might have been an incident before which you drinking and every time there's a situation It seems like alcohol is also involved and when is that usually when these instances happen drinking hours? What is happening? What is drinking? I was mean that doesn't mean that Me I'm saying I could see if I was coming out of church fucked up. You don't see that But if you're drunk and every every time it happens when you're drunk that might be a issue I don't say drunk. I'll just say inebriated or slightly like you're drunk that might be an issue. I don't want to say drunk I'll just say inebriated or slightly like feeling nice and I've had some incidents and what it happens. Envy what incident are you referring to? I'm not cuz I'm not gonna put that man's stuff out

there he knows what I'm talking about I just want to make sure my brother is okay and my brother is good. No it's a couple of them. What are you talking about? I don't remember that one. See that's the one I was talking about. I googled Donnell Rollins drinking. Oh my god. The second article that came up is from Yahoo googled Donnell Rollins. Oh my God. And the second article that came up is from Yahoo Entertainment. Donnell Rollins says he had a great time at Diddy Party. I swear to God everything look look look look second article that came up. What? Donnell Rollins drinking. La Diddy.

Oh, was that the time you drove up the wrong side of the street? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Wait, you drove up the wrong side of the street? That was part of a joke. That was a part of a joke. And the joke was.

I don't know what joke that was. That was part of a joke, because it was a picture, y'all made viral, but it was that picture of me on Diddy's yacht. And I said, I don't know what he put in that vodka but it feel like I had a forehead of hair on that yacht It felt like I was a black Fabio. That's what it was. All right next question Who wrote the song you wrote it? I did. Okay. Yeah, I thought it was something funny He was it but you know, I can't really play it because copyright situation

But you know, that's what I do You got to be able to turn limits eliminate and don't let people don't let stuff like keep You down or fuck you up, and I move forward the only thing I just put like that any situation if you make me mad It's gonna make me go hard on stage You know matter what anybody want to say about me that thoughts of me I'll just say I invite any of those people any of the naysayers or any people have questions about how I'm as a stand-up I'll say come to my show and challenge you to go one-on-one toe-to-toe with anybody, anybody in the business I have no problem with that. Now I know another challenge was at one time your child's mother, how has that worked out?

Have you all worked everything out? Can you get Darnello a napkin? Can you just spit out his water please? Don't worry, he's just getting a napkin, I promise. Okay, no problem. Was that challenging? Did you all fix that? Are you all on the same accord now?

Fix what? I know at one time you and your child's mother was not seeing eye to eye on things. I mean when you're not with the person that at one point you was in love with and it didn't work out like you want, I mean people want to have a healthy relationship but it's kind of tough because there's always emotions involved and it always comes down to like how you feel. How do you say this? We're good, but it's gonna be some trials and tribulations with that.

Do you ever look back at that and say, I was the problem, hi, it's me, what you gonna call the song that you always sing? I look at it all the time, I take accountability. You know, it's easy for us to say when you hear situations about like co-presenters like this, it's easy. It's two sides to every story. And I do believe that part of the reason

that we're not together in a living situation is because I'm pretty sure I contribute to it. But that was in the past, and the most important thing right now is to raise our son to be the best human we possibly can do at the end of the day. I'll take account and be like, I'm not a perfect motherfucker, I'm not any of that.

Would you change anything? Would you look back and say I should have did this differently or I should have did this? With the relationship with her? Yes. No I think she should have stayed the fuck out of my phone. What did she find when she went through your phone? Don't worry about that. I'm just saying leave my motherfucking phone alone. That's all I'm saying. Your phone is over there. My phone is over here. You pay the bill over here. I pay the bill over here I pay the people over here. Hey man in relationship I'm the perfect motherfucker if you mind your business, just stay out of my phone The devil is in the phone What does he find in the phone and how does it wasn't locked?

I don't know They got ways to do it shit, I don't know. You gave her your password? You asked that question, say it. They got ways of doing shit. I don't know, motherfuckers might have opened my eyeballs up one night. I don't know what the fuck. She's a lot younger than him, so she might have just watched him into the passcode and remembered it.

It's God's way of saying, Donnell, you're not living correctly. And it's for parts of my life I wouldn't live correctly, but that's Donnell. Are you living correctly now? Yeah, that's done now. Are you living correctly now? Yeah, that's much like it. Yes. I don't fucking know what's going on. I'm just trying to have a real, you say you don't have a real conversation.

I'm not joking you, I'm just having a real conversation. No, you be low key stressed. What? About the, like the parental situation sometimes. No, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't be stressed about that. I don't be stressed because what I try to do, this is what I believe. When you, in a co-paradise.

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your podcasts. A lot of guys like this, well I'm gonna take care of my responsibility and they think that their responsibility is just taking care of that kid. I don't agree with that. I think really if you want a healthy relationship for your kid and the mother, I think it's important to try to do everything to make her happy physically, mentally, and financially too. So I do all those things to try to have that relationship as healthy as possible because if the mother of your child is mentally unstable or whatever, that could affect your kid.

So I do everything in my power to make sure that she's good and she's happy. Okay, I respect that. Ain't really nothing to talk about because we're not making jokes. I wanna take this as serious as possible, Don. I don't want you to think that anytime you come up here We just come in a pay to the shit on you a jokie or boo you or not something like that I like I really take you serious as a friend and you know, I want you to be succeed and I want you to win

Why does this feel so fucking weird it no I feels we congratulations Oh what on your podcast and everything that you do You're gonna be a good person of course. I'll be let me ask you a question What advice would you give Lauren and Jess you know you've done radio for a long time what advice I would give them You've done radio with me. I thought about this and I'm just gonna call me that day. I didn't answer the phone I feel like it's shit that day. I know you know what this is how I feel mm-hmm And I thought about this even when I came up here envy I was like we've had a lot of opportunity to be funny and everything like that.

I was like, am I always going to be funny? But this is what I think. I think with Lauren and Jess, you have to allow them to be Lauren and Jess. Jess is not Lauren. Lauren is not Jess. You know? I think so.

And we're like, I've been on the blogs, and I've been listening out here. People say, well, Jess is not a journalist, whatever. But you guys didn't hire her to be a journalist and the thing that people don't understand is like yet and I thought it was a very funny benchmark with her when I searched from one of the funniest things that just did was just with the mess I loved it that showed her comedic thing and it was always a spin on news and satire you know what I'm saying so now there's not gonna be a

comparison if you look at a person is's trained to be a journalist or whatever, it's going to be an obvious distance, obvious difference between. But you got to let Jess be Jess and you to be you. And this is the story that I look at that really bothers me on people taking sides of it. You have two black women that came and no insult or whatever from nothing. That's not an insult. You know from nothing that they came from the mud. Correct. You know what I'm saying they position themselves so we should be celebrating that and be proud of it. We shouldn't be pinning them together. And as far as uh and I remember when you was on TMZ when I first had opportunity to actually talk to you I appreciate like how you used to hold me down on that show.

When Harvey and I used to try to go sideways, what have you always defended me? I remember just some years ago, maybe seven, eight years ago, when she probably had 15,000 to 20,000 followers on Instagram, and she sent in my DM and asked me an honest question about comedy. Like, what do I need to do? I said, I can't tell you anything to do.

I said, but what you gotta do is go on stage and everything you need to know about comedy, it'll happen. And like people, this is the thing, Jess had to her all the tools to make herself successful and be self-made. And most of these muffins that talk shit, and I know this is kind of hard for people in the social media side,

oh, they came from social media. They came from YouTube. But even to get to the point where she is, you have to have some type of work ethics. You have to have some type of discipline. It's not like you post one video and it's going to happen. And I've seen her go. The same way I saw Kevin Hart when he first started doing Twitter with 20,000 followers.

He stuck to it. She stuck to her thing. So you can't hold against it, hold against her the way she got on. I think it's unfair to try to pit them together. And I think that they could coexist in the same thing if both of them do their lanes and do what they're supposed to do.

I'm proud of watching both of them. I consider both of them my friends. That's what you called me to say that day? I called you to say some, you didn't have to hear from me. I didn't call to talk shit because. I didn't to say it's some you didn't have to hear from I didn't call to Talk shit because I didn't I didn't I was like I don't feel like no more jokes me and comedians just ain't Happy it ain't going well to know because I know this what people say we all are opportunists We all try to position ourself to win

You know saying how you gonna get mad at a person? I remember when you first started doing this and you wasn talking about, I'm gonna be an on-air personality. You was talking about, oh man, we gonna make it even tighter? Because I used to say to myself, the show is, sometimes, it's all over the place. But I know with your experience of producing, I was like, that's part of something that they need.

I didn't know that it was gonna turn into a situation where you get as much time, but you deserve enough everything that you got on this show, not even without this show. You already had a trajectory to be successful. And how can somebody be mad? Like, because a person like coming here, guess what? They like me, I'm doing a good job, I wanna continue that.

It wasn't no shade. I can understand just feelings on that side of it, especially when you say a situation like, okay, I suggested that this person being in this, there's no cattiness, whatever. I see a strong black woman that wants to do something, and if I can help her in any way, I wanna do that. But I can understand coming back

and feel like a situation's supposed to be another way, it don't happen. I could see the discomfort and the misunderstanding on both sides. But again, I think they can coexist. She gets to be herself and Jess gets to be herself. That's it. That is so positive.

I'm not a negative person. I like, I really support like, I called Jess when it happened. I called you and I called her. She answered? She answered the phone. And this is what I mean, I know you not really, it's not too much of a candid conversation

And I told her I said I can understand how you feel and I could hear in her voice. She was upset She didn't want to hear no jokes or whatever. I said just most importantly thing whatever you do when you respond. It's so hard To not let your emotions take over the live her emotions were taken over I said whatever you do do it in a funny way take over, the life, her emotions were taken over. I said, whatever you do, do it in a funny way. However you respond, do it in a funny way. I said, if people upset with you, whatever, remind them why you're here, and you're here because you're a funny person, so continue to do that.

Don't, you see people that come out, and they have, they go on these media runs, and they talk about everybody. So many comedians now go on these platforms, they don't even wanna be funny no more. Well, you know why, right? What? And I told people the other day,

is they get paid for it. The Outlander stuff that they say they get paid for. Before you did an interview and you said Outlander stuff, you didn't get paid for it, right? But now if I say something crazy and it's on YouTube and it's on TikTok and it's on Instagram or X or whatever these platform it is, and I get a million views, I get paid off for that.

And it becomes an addiction. Now I wanna say more stuff that's wild because- I agree with you 100%. It's like, it's media horror. You become a media horror, and you become a clickbait horror. It's so easy. And people, a lot of comedies now,

they don't care about being funny anymore. They just wanna be controversial. If you look at most tags and most clickbait, it's so-and-so destroys, claps back and everything. Because you get excited about those clicks. You can go up there, you can try to be positive as you want, as funny as you want sometimes, but that's not gonna move the doubt. It's unfortunate when I first started, we go way back and way, way back in radio where you had to be successful, you had to be likable. Now motherfuckers win by being hated. Cause it's all about, at the end of the day,

it's all about engagement. It's not about, oh, I like him, I supported my father. It's just like, what's gonna click? So if you get a click on something negative or positive, it's still a click and people are wrong with that. And the comic- I have a situation with a comic right now that it goes back and forth. You know what I'm saying?

Anytime that- You're talking about- Huh? You can say his name. You know what I'm saying? Anytime that I'm, huh? You can say his name. You talking about Corey Holcomb? Yeah, and it's unfortunate. The reason, I'm gonna tell you. Yeah, why do you and Corey Holcomb have such a long lasting problem? This is the thing with that.

And I've said this on platforms. And what it is is like, he has an audience that tune into him. He has a podcast where pretty much nobody on the show has an opinion. It's always gonna be siding with his thoughts. And we had an incident, it's documented, not an incident that he started,

but an incident I did where I got triggered at a comedy club, I yelled out at him. You know what I mean? Like some of the things he was saying. So you started it, or did he start it first? Well, you could say I started that part of it, but I think the conversation was started. And I do, it's crazy, people are like,

oh, you on Dave Chappelle's dick and all that type of shit. He's one of my closest friends. You know what I'm saying? It's not, he's one of my motherfucking closest friends. Like in Yellow Springs, we live two miles away from each other. It's my brother, you know what I mean? We don't just, we live two miles away from each other. It's my brother, you know what I mean? We weren't just coworkers.

We was fucking at Charlie Murphy's funeral. You know what I'm saying? We've been at weddings. We've been visiting people in the hospital together. Y'all friends are real. It's like sensual loyalty. Right. And everybody wants to fucking paint this picture.

Darnell is riding Dave's dick. You know what I'm saying? If it wasn't for Dave and all that. And that gets on my motherfucking nerve because I know before that show, I had a resume. After that show, I had a resume. It just so happened that I was a breakout performer on what people are calling one of the greatest shows in

the history of television. Facts. Motherfuckers want me to repeat history. I can't do that. There's never going to be another Chappelle show. Even after the Chappelle show, you know, people's like, oh, y'all gonna do it. It would have been the most foolish thing for me and Charlie to say we want to do a sketch show. And someone said something about even after when Chappelle decided that he wasn't being part of that show no more,

me and Charlie Murphy hosted the Lost Episodes. We didn't host those episodes with the intent we're gonna take this show over. They had an archive of sketches. They were trying to figure out what the fuck they was gonna do with these sketches. They hadn't communicated to nobody. I didn't know where the motherfucker was,

hadn't spoke to him. And when I look back on certain things I did in my career, it might not have been, when I look about it in retrospect, it might not have been the best decision. But in that moment, I'm like, like this, this is a great show right now. Nobody is gonna be like this, we're the new Chappelle. And even when me and Charlie came out

and Mr. Hocus says something about that, he oh you these motherfuckers hosted the show that's why I fucked with DC Young Fly because DC Young Fly told them no. DC Young Fly told them no to continuing the show as the new host and DC Young Fly could fucking do that because the core of Wilding Out was Chico Bean, Carlos so he don't have to do Wilding Out because he got 85 South. He has that. Even when me and Charlie did that we came out first thing Charlie says and it was a joke oh I don't feel comfortable doing this I was like speak for yourself I need all the camera time I can get that's the reality of it I've had a conversation about Dave and I apologized to Dave about it. I

was like I didn't think about it like that. I said but one thing Dave had you called me right? Yo, D. I'm not fucking with this network. I'm not fucking with them. I mean I would have never done it. So what do you do? You got to make a decision on what you're going to do that's going to continue to help your joint and try to be as respectful about it as possible. After when he left, we never wrote another sketch. We never, me and Charlie had a pilot, it was called Charlie vs. Don-El. And it was a reality show that Comedy Central passed on. It had nothing to do with sketch. It was me and him battling each other. Big Tigger was the co-host of that, whatever. We thought we had an opportunity to do that, but what Comedy Central didn't understand is that me and Charlie Murphy, if you wanna say,

became stars of that show. They was waiting for Dave to come back, so they didn't think that me and him could pull off. That didn't happen. We never revisited that. I never did a sketch show. I never tried to do anything past that, and I showed him the respect for that.

But I tell you, I tell you, what pisses me off and anybody can understand, when you put so much work into something and for people to try to assassinate your character and say you're something other than what the fuck you are. And for all these motherfuckers, this is what I feel.

I don't wanna fight you on no fucking podcast. I don't wanna be more controversial. If you wanna do fight me on anything, let's go on the fucking stage. Let's go to the stage. For all the motherfuckers that wanna say he's wack, he's mild and so and so, and I put this out there, let's go on a fucking stage

and let the people decide that. And I guarantee you, it ain't gonna get the fucking results you want. You can tell a motherfucker that motherfucker's wack after 30 plus years performing, not just on the Chitlin circuit. Five, six continents. And oh, you with Dave guess

what I am with Dave when I do shows I am Dave's open I don't open for nobody big dogs Kevin Hart Chris Rock Dave I ain't gonna never open for you know so if you want to do it stop talking your shit and let's go on the stage and I guarantee you You're gonna fucking fill it. Is there and I'm not a one-trick pony I'm not just for the black audience. I'm from everywhere and as much as much as my friends say, oh, he's on Dave Dick, this is the best feeling I have when I tour and I got video of it. I could show you Nobody expects me to be on a show with Dave. He don't never promote my name. He don't need me to.

He can sell out any venue in the world. 25, 30,000 people. DJ Trauma will say, you seen him on HBO's The Wire. You seen him on The Corner. You seen him on BMF. I might get some clap claps, but you fell in love with him as Ashley Lerner and Chappelle Show.

In every fucking venue for five years, a whole arena goes ape shit. That only gonna last me two minutes on stage. But guess what? As they go ape shit, when they know I'm there, when I get off stage, guess what? They fucking stand up again, because I put the work in and people know me for that. I'm not gonna apologize because I've made some characters or did some shit that people remember. And it's only bitter motherfuckers that talk that shit. What have you done? And I continue, I can continue to do it.

I've been on BMF, I did this, I continue to work. Motherfuckers say, oh, you ain't made it. I'm just addressing shit I've heard on podcasts. You know, oh, because I told you. Is this just Cory's podcast? I mean, for the most part. And then here's the thing. This is the fucked up thing about it.

This is gonna be fuel for him to go and say the stupid shit again. But I just, I'm not. But I do have to ask, you said, if you started it, right? You said you started it. No, I didn't say I started it. You said you started from your remarks. I'd say even that.

Because for every action is a reaction. So if he went at you first, you can't be mad if he, you know. The club, the lab factory, right? No, no, it was. And you know what? God damn, it's hard for me. I'm trying to be accountable for my actions, but I gotta say what triggered me. You know what I'm saying?

When I just keep hearing this, and this is because it's a friend of mine, when I keep hearing this, it's just interesting to me the notion that you would go to a comedy club with 150 people on a workout night and be critical of someone that's doing the numbers, someone that's fucking got all the accolades, the Grammys, the Emmys.

You wanna go, that's like going to a practice facility and watching nigga practice and saying, oh, that wasn't that good. What happens at game time, motherfucker? For you to even put it on the universe, there's somebody that's booty or boo boo or whatever, in the practice facility, go to an arena, go to a theater, go to not just a certain point, guess what? You ain't

gonna be the funniest motherfucker. I think now Dave has done it so long, so much, people don't really even look at him just to be hearty, hearty, hearty. They look at him for his perspective. They're looking for his point of view. His thoughts is bigger than that. He's turning to that Dick Gregory shit. You know what I'm saying? I don't wanna say activist,

but it's more than just his laughter. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I did took offense to that. And I said, even when an incident happened, I said, you know what? I probably broke the unwritten rule. You're not supposed to yell out at a comedian when you're on stage.

For that, I'm guilty. So he was taking a shot at Dave, and you were like, Dave's my brother. I'ma ride for my brother. Yeah, well, pretty much. I'm not mad at that. But not even just my brother. It is what it is.

But, you know, why can't, well, I guess you and Cory, I mean, tried to work this out many a times, but I feel like- And the thing about it, Envy is- You're successful, he's successful, right? Y'all have two different audiences, two different cores. I don't understand why it continues on. Again, that goes to like, when you have a platform

and you know what's gonna, you know, even with the roast, the roast battle thing, a person couldn't wait to take an opportunity to say this guy's booty and he doesn't support young comics. And I said something, because it was a quote from that thing was like, and I think I was misunderstood or I might've misspoke. When somebody says something about a special,

I said, I made that show. What I meant to say was I helped make that show, but it was, and it was and took that was like motherfucker you didn't You haven't even made it and I beg to differ that do I get the fucking banked at Kevin Hart and these motherfuckers do Or the movies or anything but for somebody that no college education Not formally trained on anything other than the military, to be able to position myself where I could do fucking seven figures

using my God given talent. In some areas people think that you made it. I don't answer anybody, I work for myself and that's it. Well, Donnell you did make it, I don't know if you realize that. You came from the military to what you've done, what you've accomplished. I mean, people don't know if you really do your history.

Me and Donnell did radio together. We did a morning show together. Yeah, a long time, on Hot 97, with Miss Jones. It was me, Miss Jones, and Donnell Rollins. And we did a morning show together. And we've seen you go from there to where you are. So you have made it. And we joke with you a lot up here.

And we clown you, you clown us, but we are proud of you. And we think you're one of the funniest. I don't support many people. I don't come out to do shows for many people, but I come out and I support you because I really do think you funny. And I appreciate that, but it's not that, it's like, I have a history of that.

And like, even when Mike Epps was up here, when Mike said, Don-El too old to be getting booed. The translation for me was like, Don-El's too funny to get booed. We came from the same place. And I'm not saying that it has never happened, but after a while you get a certain amount of experience that you know how to handle different situations.

And for anybody here, like he got booed, the first question people asked was like, wait a minute, that doesn't sound right. What happened? And yes, they booed me, but it was like, it wasn't a boo, like I told a joke and it was black It was like he was instructed by the host of the show but it was a lack of respecting and that's what I meant by you was too over because I feel like

Again to your career and watching you on those stages like a radio city music or whatever I just felt like I don't know like like MV said earlier Like they was playing with you a little bit and no one else where you are would do that. For me, one of my questions for you would be, why even be in a space where something like that would even be allowed to happen? I'll tell you why, I will tell you, the alcohol. The alcohol is what made you go there?

No, in that roast battle? No, what made me go to that roast battle, as I was there, I was hanging with Teddy Swims and I watched him on Adam Carolla, he has a show called Dr. Phil, where he tours and he does an impression of Dr. Phil, and he act like it's the actual Dr. Phil show. I wanted to support Teddy on that.

And one of his buddies was on the panel to be on the Rose Battle, and we was hanging out. He was like, yo, D, you wanna go up to the Rose Battle? I went up there, and everybody know in the business that I don't go to the Rose stuff, because I could be sensitive, I be upset and it was one thing led to another it just was a awkward situation and they got out of hand but at the same time I didn't feel good about it but a one thing what I said to

those comics if you look at it it was true and I even told him at the end of it I said I hope you are so mad at me that it makes you want to step the game up just to say fuck him I know I could do it. It wasn't no effort. I've supported so many young comics I've gave opportunities anybody and even even to you and like certain people I come around if I feel that they'd like have funny energy I don't think everybody can be funny, but I'll say you know what you should try it. I told her I think you have to personally do it. She's not He's not gonna do it. I am not getting on stage.

He's been trying to, it's not ever happening. No, it might not happen, but you know, I was been 100% supportive. Even I told her, I said, you coming to my show, she didn't show up. Cause she thought I might put on stage. But to that, and I noticed interview when people come and see me, they watch,

they like, oh God, he's gonna cut up whatever. But it's something to be said about letting somebody air it out in their gripes and their grievances. And to that, I say fuck them. All right, well, you're gonna be at the City Winery in New York, March 28th, March 29th. Damn, that's a hell of a way to end an interview. In the afternoons, Indiana, April 4th and 5th,

Tennessee, Buffalo, and Florida. So next hour, you wanna stay a little bit? Charlamagne's not here. We have Ryan Davis next hour. Would you like to sit there and do some of these questions with us, especially coming from a comedian? Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. Show him your socks.

It's a good... Got yellow socks on. It's a pop. It's called a pop. It's called a pop. Yeah. I can do it. I will say it.

Do it one more time. Wait, you did that real fast. You hold on, slow down. You know, you're too old to be moving that fast, too. Why you like to use that word too old? It's my bad. Shoot, I'm sorry. You know, you're too old to be moving that fast Interrupted that's interrupted. Well, I will say more importantly and I came up here What I want I do want to talk about my performance at at the city winery But again Memorial Day weekend is something this is going into the fifth year There's something and I started like when we were doing outdoor shows with Dave,

he would focus on the comedy, and I was focused on the camp atmosphere, having the fun. Something that I created five years ago, it's dope. Go to DonnellRollins.com and get more information about Donnell land. I'm going to try to make this the black Disneyland for people. Okay.

And hopefully I could come out there with my kids one time. They would love it. All right. Well, there you have it. It's Don L. Rollins. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up.

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