The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Donnell Rawlings Explains His Issue With Being Called A 'Mild' Comedian 😤

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

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The Breakfast Club. Donna, tell him you want to call him back. Hey, y'all got on camo today. Yeah, this bullshit ain't about to go down. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Jess, and Larry. Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.

We have a special guest in the building. He has a Netflix special that's out right now. You're familiar with the old written law. Love your friend and his unwritten companion. Hate your enemy. I'm challenging that. I'm telling you to love your enemy. This is from Matthew 55, 43, 48. That's for all y'all religious leaders. I'm telling you to

love your enemies. Let them bring out the best of you, not the worst. When someone gives you a hard time, respond with the supple moves of prayer. Look at God. Read Matthew 5, 5. For then you are working out of your true selves, your God creative selves. This is what God

does. He gives his best, the sun to warm and the rain to nourish to everyone, regardless, the good and the bad, the nice and the nasty. If all you do is love the lovable. Do you expect a bonus? Anybody can shut the fuck up while I'm talking about God. Fuck is wrong with you, nigga. I'm praying, nigga. Anybody can do that fuck up while I'm talking about God. Fuck is wrong with you, nigga.

I'm praying, nigga. Anybody can do that. If you simply say hello to those who greet you, do you expect a medal? Any run of the mill sinner does that. That's Donald Rollins. What I'm saying is grow up.

Your kingdom subjects now live like that. Live out your God created identity live generously and gracely toward others the way God lives towards you ladies and gentlemen Donna Rawlings I love you

why didn't you read the scripture you texted me the other day you texted me Matthew 5 5 read it out Charlemagne happy are the mild-tempered since they will inherit the earth. That's Matthew 5-5. Welcome. Welcome.

How you feeling, brother? I feel very mild. In fact, I'm going to tell you, this is how mild I feel. I've looked at the careers of a lot of people, right? Yes. And some of those people that are super hot that aren't that mild let's just say they're not doing uh the same thing that the mild performers are you talking

about i don't use names i'm not talking about anybody i mean we could get to it i mean it's not listen i had a conversation with a very close friend of mine and they said they knew what i was doing the breakfast club right and they said donnell don't do it that's what that person said don't do what they just what breakfast they don't do what i'm not used to seeing you like they said don't do what they're going to try to do i know you always he said don't do it and the reason why they said here's the thing you could say it's this thing is I'm giving light to somebody that doesn't deserve light. All right. I'm giving energy and pumping up something that doesn't have to be pumped up.

Now, we could talk about the situation. I see that sinister, nasty, light skin looked at you having. You look very light. You look very light. Lighter than normal. Damn. You look like Latisha. Like, like, like, like.

Like a white man. And the thing is, I know it's your business as a fake journalist, as a media personality. You have to get to the bottom of this. You have to get to what people talk about in the streets. I don't want to do that, but we can. No, I want to talk about your special, Don. Let's talk about my special. Wait, wait, wait.

What's special? A new day. No. What platform? Netflix. Not on YouTube. Not a podcast. Continue. What's wrong with you? special don't let's talk about my special and you wait wait what's special a new day no what platform netflix not on the youtube not a podcast continue i'm just saying there's levels to this that's what we do are you still in the fashion i'm still in the top 10 that's what we call for people to understand that they're looking for clips this is called this business of it's called charting okay now there are a lot of shows on netflix and here's when the world not just not just a podcast sees you when you chart when my special dropped on the 27th the next day it was

charted at number two congrats now no no no no no let's talk about it um don't try to congratulate you guys you was scared as shit give me the same energy fucking sucker ass nigga so who do you think is going to fight next who's the greatest so who do you think is the greatest nigga that's the real question

who do you think is the greatest would you ever fight scorpion balls how big are scorpion balls there's a story in Las Vegas where some guy balls got bit by fight scorpion balls? How big are scorpion balls? There's a story in Las Vegas where some guy's balls got bit by a scorpion. Hey Andre, would you ever fight a scorpion? You can give me the same respect.

I don't need that. I don't want your motherfucking congratulations. I want to talk about the facts. I have a respectful question. Before that, I have to answer his question first. The special dropped. I didn't ask a question you were you were getting there okay it charted number two yes right and it held on to number two for three days it went to number four for a couple days it went to number

seven i'm not really sure even if it's charting right now but to have a netflix special to come out as many programs that are on netflix just to get recognized in a top 10, it's a big joint. Amazing. It's a big deal. And it's the reason why I support any comic that want to follow my lead and be mild. You should do it. Absolutely.

That's what I'm saying. And to address that, here's my thing. All right, we'll see. I don't want to get into it. I don't want to get into it because I don't want to be messy. Well, don't. No, but I'm... No, no, I got to say this.

Keep getting into it. It's in your face, nigga. You sinister, nigga. I don't understand to be messing. No, but I've got to say this. Keep getting into it. It's in your face, nigga. You sinister, nigga. Your face should be like, that's the type of nigga you are. I don't get this, Donnell. You've always been such a mild-mannered comic. What is setting you off about this situation?

The thing that's setting me off about this situation is being called mild. Alright? I'm going to tell you why. It's the same issue I had with you. For a person that i'm bringing you back in when i want to bring you back into this i'm gonna pray for you dear father help this nigga all right uh the the point i'm making what was the point now can you keep me on track just what is the point i was making why you don't like to be called a mile the reason why and it's i said the issue i had with you and i said okay this motherfucker keep on trying to create the narrative that he's not funny you don't understand it's not true

let me say this let me talk to a comedian yeah you know the n-word for us not funny and corny as much success as you've had and i not noted you've dealt with naysayers and everything and you could brush it off your numbers don't lie it's still something personal about somebody saying that and you want to say fuck you i know i'm not and the reason why i'm gonna say that and i'll address this first off you gotta ask who's uh judging me who is saying you mile right if that person is not on a level of what I've done. When you're talking about what your mouth's saying, resume. If you're not on a level, it's not even fair for you to make an assessment of what you think my motherfucking career is.

Because I can do the resumes. And this is what, I can do resumes. You can say the resume. I know you saw scorpion balls. I know. I'm going to deliver you some. You know what I'm saying? It's like, okay okay who's judging me

and then when somebody's judging me you're making a critique of me what are you doing what are you doing to your career but sit back trying to shit on a motherfucker and I take offense to anybody saying that funny because I know after 30 years that's not what the streets are saying I've never said you're not funny

I'm not talking about you he was he made a reference isn't that the sign of a narcissist I never said you're not funny. I'm not talking about you. He was. It's always about you. It's always about you. He made a reference to something she was saying. Nigga, do you listen to any of your myths around, isn't that the sign of a narcissist? Yes. Always bringing it back to you. Yeah.

It's not about you. But did you open up for me? Me. Okay. This interview is me. That's right. Don L. Robbins. A new day, a new dawn, and I'm feeling good.

But you opened up for him that night, right? At Laugh Factory? What? What? Oh, shit. What'd you say? First off, first off, youugh Factory? What? What'd you say? First off, first off, you know what? Oh, shit.

Come on, let me get a hug. No, no, no, I don't want that. I don't want that. That was crazy. No, I didn't. Okay, no. I think it's very petty for comedians, and I'm not going to say names, I think it's very petty for comedians and I'm not going to say names

because all it's just getting more I think it's fucked up for comedians to try to be critics of comedians when you're in the same field nobody does that athletes nobody do that you'll never hear LeBron James going out saying that Jay Morant is whack.

I'm better than him. His name is Ja. Okay, Ja, whatever it is, I'm making my point. You guys can clown about me. No, we all understand what you're saying. Stop laughing. I'm going to look at you when I say this. Yeah.

You'll never have any other field where when you actively doing the same thing, you're going to be a critic of that person. And what they do is leave it on the court you're not going to lebron may have a certain issue with certain players but he was like i'm not gonna be like oh i'm better than him like this i'm gonna dunk on you michael jordan never went out and said what i'm gonna do to somebody he went out and did it so if you want to fight me fight in a fair arena you can't fight me on netflix because you ain't in that league no so if your criticism of me is of what your opinion is and even with this situation somebody said don't

talk about it you know what i'm a very petty person i've been riding y'all motherfuckers pause for eight years i can be petty that's right i can be petty didn't want to be petty i said and the reason why i didn't want to be petty, because I started listening. I go through the comments. I started listening. I was saying, wait a minute. I don't got to fight this motherfucker. I let them fight it.

I don't need this fight. You got to stop cursing, Don. You have to use mild profanity. Don't you edit this shit? Yes. All right, edit this shit. But I got you. But mild profanity because we don't want to have to edit too much.

Beep, beep, beep. Okay, all right. What I'm saying is, if you want to fight me fight me on in a right arena you know and the thing is where you want to fight me or criticize me i've already done that yeah i've already done that if you check my resume and i know you guys have because you always want to have some insight on me if you check my resume and my career goes over 30 years i started in the same place that everybody started. Probably even worse. So when you try to put out there what you think comedy is and get in front of

the mud, guess what? I've been through the mud. But who still want to keep playing in the dirt? Eventually, you got to elevate yourself. I don't want to do that. Why are you being so spicy, Donna? You are funny. We know you're funny. So what you're trying to do now is like... No, I'm being honest. How many times have I came to your show? This is gaslighting. You're gaslighting. Absolutely. He's getting some things off his so what you're trying to do down is like i'm being honest like how many times if i came to your show this is gaslighting your gaslighting yeah because he's getting some things

off your chest and your gaslighting you started it i'm sorry i don't trust you i'm just i'm keeping it real i like you but i don't trust you and i have the same situation with certain names whatever but it's like it's like this now look this, and I know the question is, well, what's up with all this comedy beef or whatever? And it's unfortunate. Who got that question? I had that question. There's an elephant in the room. Absolutely.

Every other comedian that fucking comes up here, that question, and I was going to get to that. How do you feel about the comedy beef and the climate that it's in? Let's take away a nigga with a podcast who talks about everybody to get attention. Let's take away that. What's the question again? Let's talk about the climate and what comedy is.

It's a good question, Jess. I'll answer this way. It's two. You got to do it. With the OG comics. White comics, black comics, whatever. The thing is, in our community, we feel like it only can be one black person on top at one time. Nobody wants to share the stage.

They feel like Hollywood picks this person. But everybody can win. Everybody wants to be Batman, but it's going to be more Robins than anything. We're not supportive of each other. Very, very selfish. Very competitive. But not to point a competitive. That's not everybody, though.

We see what Dave would create. I'm not talking to you, Denvi. I'm sorry. I'm talking to a comedian. do you want to do comedy no sir you can start like we did we can do open mics no sir i know you have a platform no sir you think you can do anything i said no sir all right do we interrupt car show promotions like this sorry imagine me interfering when you talking about one of your car shows i said sorry continue sorry, continue. We don't do seminars for houses anymore. I'm so glad that time. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. He doesn't do open mic. He doesn't open houses. Them houses closed like shit right now. Anyway, the question is, it's and it's it's an out. We very, very, very, very hateful. Yeah. And as bad as the climate has been in comedy this is the common

denominator with everybody that's been a subject of discussion from the show let's keep it real from the interview all these names that came up the one thing that's common with everybody is that we all started from nothing there's not a story of anybody's name is going up that didn't come from, uh, uh, one family house. You don't say nothing. Everybody, everybody they talk about had a dream and it turned a dream into reality.

So my thing, if you want to be critical of that, then be same, use that same criticism and talk about the come up, talk about the people that have done it and let people know that this is something that you can focus on and you can do it. You can be good at it and you make it successful. The only thing right now in our comedy community is that people are trying to sell controversy now. Yeah.

They don't want to sell jokes anymore because they know what moves the needle. Every podcast platform, I did a whole media run and everybody, as soon as I walked in, they wanted to controversy. I heard so-and-so. About that, yep. Oh, I heard this. Because they know that our society, we gravitate toward negativity more than anything. That's why you look at the news, whatever, New York News, you look at it, a person was murdered in Brooklyn, a person was murdered in Bronx, because we gravitate toward negative stuff. It's unfortunate where we ever get where we have these positive stories.

Never because that don't move the Dow. So you got people out here trying to move a Dow with podcasts, whatever. And the way I'm trying to move a Dow is by what I'm doing. I don't have to talk about it. I'm not cocky about my Netflix special. I've been doing this for 32 years and anybody, you know,

you know, my history, anybody, you know, my history, I put the work in. So when you try to discredit that, I'm going to defend that. Again, I don't want to talk about it because here's the thing.

I make a conversation. It's been 17 minutes and you're talking about it now, though. All right, because somebody told me not to do it. You had a mild disagreement. That's what it was. No, we didn't have. Now, it's a misunderstanding. Fuck them.

Was I supposed to say that? I don't know how to say it. I was trying not to say it. I was trying not to say it. I swear. God, don't know how to say it I was trying not to say it I was trying not to say it God don't do this I was trying not to Fuck them That's what I wanted to say

Can I ask you a serious question? If sucking three dicks gets you a movie What does sucking six dicks get you? Well That's a question for you because I know you're very serious about getting into the acting world,

right? And when I came up here, I was like this. You know what? Out of all this discussion on fellatio, I was like, who better to audition

for three movies than Charlamagne? So maybe that's a question. You're the one curious about how you get in the movie set and that's a trigger. I've been in over

three movies and i've never and with that i've kept my career dick tree so when i've done it it's been a struggle for some people right but i've stuck to my guns get the dick out of here so much that i moved to ohio just to get away from the traps of the dick in Hollywood. There's no dicks in Ohio? There ain't nobody sucking dicks for rolls. Got you, got you, got you. I'm pretty sure that's, I mean, you know, it's happening out there, but that's not, you know, that's not a thing of mine. Do you practice

like gentle or mild parenting? I'm very, very mild. Very mild and gentle parent. And I think that's because I'm an older, older parent. Like, I think I'm old enough to be my son's grandfather and father at the same time. So he's being raised with grandfather energy. All that discipline stuff.

I don't really do that. Like when he was younger, he cried. I just give him lollipops. I didn't try to give no life lessons. I'm like an old head dad. So, yeah, I got a gentle, kinder parenting style. How's Ohio? He's eight. Okay. Yeah, how's Ohio? Ohio is good. I'm on a road. I live more on the road than anything.

Ohio is great. Is mild weather there all the time? It's mild weather. That's why I leave because I need to go to more spicy weather. I need to go to a climate where they get it from the mud. Here's the thing about it. I got to keep it real, right? That's what society says. But the irony of that

when I did Chappelle's show one of the sketches that connect with people resonates so much was when keeping it real goes wrong so it was a situation I had with keeping it real

goes wrong guess who wrote that who me oh so I knew how keeping it real could go wrong

next question I didn't know you wrote that sketch next question there's a lot of things you don't know about Chappelle's show I did do you know the character Beautiful

that I played? Beautiful. The pimp, not the pimp, the Jerry Carroll guy? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What you didn't know about this was that character was not on the paper. They didn't write that. And this is how hateful of a sketch that was. I asked Neil Brennan, I said, what's the next sketch I'm going to be on? He said

Player Hates Ball. So the next day I look at the call sheet, which would tell you what you planned and everything everything and i saw that i wasn't on it and i asked neil i said i'm supposed to be in a player haters ball why am i not players but he's oh i'm sorry b i forgot i was like all right he said we'll just come up with something so that character if you look at the original script he did not exist on there i went home i my hair has been bald for years and i was like i want to do a different look. Everybody know this. I was like, now's the opportunity for me to grow hair. So I went to the makeup. I said, I want a Jerry Carroll wig.

I went to props and I said, I want a bottle. I want some curl activator, right? But I wanted it to be in a champagne bottle. But they said that would be too sloppy. So I said, give me an aerosol can, wrap it around with some platinum gold, look at whatever. I'm going to do that. Right? This was the night before. I told him that.

And then five heartbeats was one of my favorite movies. So I said, I wanted to be dressed like Eddie Cain Jr. If you look at what beautiful was running at, it almost looked like the day, you know, it looked like that. So I went with that.

I know this bores you because I'm making sense. So you can leave the interview if you want. I see you're not making eye contact. No, no, no, no, no. You're distracted. I'm not. Focus on me. I am. Can it be about me right now? It is about you. Anyway, back to what I was saying. Five hot beats.

Yeah. I'm here for you, Darnell. So I said I wanted the Eddie King Jr. look. So this guy didn't exist. So I got a jerry curl. I got the outfit and everything. And I'm walking around.

And I didn't have a name. And I'm looking in the mirror. I didn't have a name. I said, Neil, what's this character's name? He said, I don't know, B. Just make up something. So I walked past the mirror. And I was like, damn.

I feel beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. I said, Neil, my name is Beautiful. He said, well, that's a lie. But it's a funny name. Beautiful. Beautiful. I said, Neil, my name is beautiful. He said, well, that's a lie, but it's a funny name. Genius. And if you look at it, no, everything I said out of my mouth was improv. It was that character did not exist. That was my contribution to that. Wow. Can I ask you a real question? No. When you got into the.

I said no. When you got into the mild disagreement, why didn't you leave the first time? Why you kept leaving and coming back and leaving and coming back and leaving and coming back? First off, what you don't understand is that I didn't leave and come back. I stayed. Here's another thing about that situation. That night, there was three shows at the Laugh Factory. When it's a three-day weekend, since y'all want the fucking truth, I'm not going to bash anybody. In fact,

I've never one time said anything bad about this guy. If you want to say his name and promote it, you can. I'll call him this guy. I've been called Ugly Larry. I've been called all this stupid shit. It's not funny. It's not funny. The reason why it's not funny, because I know I ain't the best looking nigga.

When I was fucking 15, I looked in the mirror and said, this face has to be rich and famous. Yeah. You didn't have to agree so quick. No, I'm not. Certain faces look like you got to add something to it. Okay.

You know, and what's your question? Why did I keep leaving? Whatever. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's

surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a racket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead.

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and every single wig removal together. Secrets are revealed as we rewatch every moment with you. Special guests from back in the day will be dropping by. You know who they are. Sydney, Alison, and Joe are back together on Still the Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. That day, I closed three shows. First show, second show, late show, midnight show. I didn't want to

go there. I was tired, you know, but I didn't want to let Lonnie down. Shout out to Lonnie Chocolate Factory. I wanted to commit to it. So I came to the show, right? And I don't mingle with comics. I don't go over there and do all the powwow shit. I don't look at the lineup. I just know that I'm going to go in and call them. I'm going to go up.

My name called, went up there, destroyed the show, ripped the show, but also know that I had to make an announcement about my special. And I wanted to say something that was real. So I had the crowd up here. I could have said, good night. I took it down and I explained to say something that was real so I had the crowd up here I could have said goodnight I took it down

and I explained what this special was meant to me how it got here and it was a very hard feeling if you listen to that video you could tell people was riding with me I didn't have to I ain't got to get on standing over right there I said I made my points and I knew I was going to use this so I thought that was giving me the light I'm like

I'm the last one everybody else been kind of weak I'm I was going to use this. So I thought that was giving me the light. I'm like, I'm the last one. Everybody else has been kind of weak. I was wondering why they were stretching it. I was like, for me, just to do 10 minutes after people have been waiting for the room, I don't make no sense. So I did go a little bit over my time. I went over my time not knowing that anybody else was on the show. You thought you was closing.

I thought I was closing. They were trying to get you off the stage for the headline. No, they wasn't. You're not paying. I'm so focused. Yeah. Okay, sorry. Well, no, Corey was headlining, right?

So, I'm getting off the stage. You went off the stage a little bit and you went off the stage. I knew I went off my time. Yeah. But they will let me do that. I've been doing this long enough. If I want to run the line a little bit, I can do it. Yeah.

Okay? I'm Donnell Rawlins, right? Yes. So, I'm leaving. Good night. Good night. And then they said, we got one more guest coming up from,

from the 30, 30 podcast or whatever number it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they said, blah,

blah, blah. And I was like, Oh, I want to listen to this. Yeah. And the reason why I want to listen to it, I had already wanted to talk to this guy.

Why? I'm going to tell you why. Because I was fed up and like a lot of comedians, fed up with the antics of why everything that comes out your mouth has to be negative and shit on people. I want to have a conversation, not just for me, but for the comedy community. Why is it that you always have to talk shit about people and nobody asked you i can see if you go on somebody's platform they said what you think about so-and-so but you volunteering this negative information and you know how close i am with this guy you know talking about dave yeah know how close i am with dave and he made some comments about dave and you could go on your platform you could

say i'm just i'm just telling the truth. I'm afraid. What is the purpose of saying that? Make it a comment and I understand this. And I heard you on your podcast. Dave, he be bombing. Alright, first off. I didn't say that. Not you. I'm saying I've listened to the Brilliant Dummies or whatever

the name of that show is. And you're like, he be bombing. First first off if you see dave chappelle in a comedy like night like d ray mondays right yeah that he's not in there practicing for a special this is what i was trying to make he's not in there you know why he's in there because he's black. He loves black people. And he wants his black people to feel that I'm still accessible. To feel that I could pop in.

To feel like, yo, the guy who is, you call it, goat, still wants to hang out with y'all. Which I experienced myself before. You know what that is. And you going in there, this is what people don't understand. This is why when I asked him about that, he was like, he'd be bummed. I was like, it's a workout. It's a workout. Guess how you get new jokes? By jokes not working.

You think that Deja Pel or anybody is going to go into these nights, especially with the phones running and everything, and go up there and give you a show that he charges $500 and $600 for? He's going up there to do what? To be Dave. To sit up there. They can want to smoke a cigarette. If you want, he's going up there to do what? To be Dave. To sit up there.

They can want to smoke a cigarette. If you want, he's going up there to chill. Yeah. And who are you to sit in the dark? With a mic. In the dark. The creator's like, oh, he ain't so-and-so. If you want to,

if you really want to test a motherfucker, then go to an arena show when we performing for 20 and 20,000 people and we set stuff aflame that those rooms are designed for people not to be critical. That's what those rooms for. But why let it bother you? Because, you know, we've been in those rooms. You know, I've seen you in a small venue and I've seen you in huge venues. I've seen Davis.

Why did I let what bother me? But why are you letting what he said bother you? Because you know what it is. You know don't know i'm sensitive i'm sensitive oh okay and then i'm sensitive and then even with you you know outside of being sensitive this is a person that always does this shit like all the time you know what i'm saying it's the same thing and the only way that you can actually ever get to him to talk to him is if you pop up on him. Because even in my experience, I mean, I'm talking about this person has talked about me years and years and years. Tried to apologize to another comedian.

No, I don't send me D-Rate to apologize to me. I want you to apologize to me as a mother because of the shit you said about my son. You know what I'm saying? And then I had to call you. I'm talking about block my number out to call you. And you answer the phone like, who this? You know what I'm saying? And then you apologize.

And then I would have never made those comments about you had I knew you were a comedian. What that got to do with me being a comedian? So he has apologized to you before? He has on the phone. And then later. It's a whole different story. You get on that mic again on on the show whatever on your podcast show which is like the only thing you have you know what i'm

saying and you talk about me again you talk about me you talk about so he cannot leave our names and the names of the greats in the name of the people that he cannot beat right on a netflix on anything else in any other realm out of his mouth. He can't do that. So that's all he has is that mic and that doner and in that cold corner. Right. You know. Without anybody being able to respond. Right. Without having an opinion of anybody. And here's the thing, whether you know it or not, it was so

many comedians that called me and said thank you. And going back to your question is that I look at the question. I listen. Yes, he has questions. Back to your point is that him, at the question i listen yes he has questions back to your point is that um uh him like i'm a good friend people want to say all this shit well even with that it was like when i had a special or dave chappelle put him on what you don't know is netflix had already agreed to do a special with me produced by Dave or not. So what if Dave did put you on? So what? You his man.

No, but I'm saying, I'm answering like dumb questions. You know what I'm saying? And this is what people don't understand. And this is where the loyalty comes in. Dave ain't just handing out specials. Giving them people that are very deserving of them. That's the point I'm making,

but people don't understand that. Any success somebody get with hard work, whatever, they wouldn't say you had to do so and so. So you dismissing work ethics, you dismissing going hard, you dismissing God. I just think you take people see. I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm just saying, but it just makes sense. It's like if if I wanted to do a podcast, right?

Why wouldn't I go to Charlemagne who has his own podcast? Right. That's my guy. And he's going to hopefully look out the best interest. Even when I was doing my book, I Charlamagne and said yo these are the terms for the book what do you think he's done it before so my next question is if you've written more than three books did you have to give fellatio for three books

or is that just for movies I knew it was something sexual yo but again going back to it when I spoke out and I will do this there's an unwritten rule that comed comedian is not supposed to heckle. And it wasn't a heckle. When I said what I said, I felt like I did that not just for myself, but for so many comedians.

It's like enough is enough. It's not going to change anything. You're going to listen to this, and you're going to figure out how to make some content out of this. And you're going to be yourself. Well, he's got the right to respond. What is he going to respond to? Just like even when he responded what he said, he ugly. And here's the thing.

Okay, I'm ugly. So what? Okay. I got to agree with him on that. Guess who I'm not trying to impress with my looks? You, nigga. Or that nigga. Or you. Here's the thing. Everything with that situation. I like your outfit thing here's the thing everything with that situation i like your outfit today thank you everything with that situation like you're this you that all right so

you're judging a man like you looked at me and said i'm ugly so who's fine to you me i'm not talking to you oh if you want to criticize somebody look like oh he's ugly so just tell me who you think is fine so that means you you're looking at dudes but that's when you that's when you go oh no no donnell ugly but guess who fine y'all are you going to say that next and then it didn't at the end of the day this interview was not supposed to be about this but at the end of the day please i'm not trying to hear none of that you know what can i ask a question whatever could you and cory ever get on the same page I think him and Jess's situation is different because, you know,

talking about somebody's child is nothing, but could you? I will say this. He was with me. He was, for me, I respected him. You know,

everybody don't agree with his style of comedy. And I've, I've said this to people before, like to be able to have the skillset. And I say, Patrice O'Neill was like this, to have a set skillset where you can have people like angry wanting to leave like this is disgusting and then one joke you got him laughing there's something to be said about that dark comedy you know i'm saying

and that's why i've always shown that i don't talk to comedians i don't hang out with comedians he was one of the guys that when i see him i'd be like what's up we would talk we would talk we would talk so it was kind of taught it was kind of interesting to me that when this hits like this, let's keep it what it is. You know, like the situation you have with him. I was like this. I fight you all day. You know what I'm saying? You talking to me.

You fight him? Figuratively speaking. Yeah, please. We've grown. Come on, Donnell. You're what I called him, a provocateur. This is not going to work. Let's just let the interview stand.

I'm saying I don't want y'all to fight We're not going to fight We will fight We'll fight on success We'll fight on what we're doing I know how to beat certain people Just keep going Success is subjective too though

Yeah it is But I know what he wants He wants what everybody else has But what you're going to do And then you paint the narrative Yeah, but I know what he wants. What does he want? He wants what everybody else has. But what you're going to do, and then you paint a narrative that the only way you can get that is to do a certain thing. You don't have to do that. Work ethics still win. As much as crazy as it is, work ethics still win. I remember years ago, it was me.

We was at the Uptown Comedy Club. You laugh because I said. That transition was crazy. That transition was crazy. Let him go the Uptown Comedy Club. You laugh because I said that transition was crazy. Let him go. Everything sounds so sad, man. OK, so what you say? I'm a walking United Negro College Fund commercial. You don't do it. The saddest commercial ever.

Black and white with sad music playing. I say I say I say, oh, it's the saddest commercial ever. You should just be in black and white with sad music playing. I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, oh, man. All right. Damn it. Uptown Comic-Con. Years ago, this is an example of how you fight. Years ago, we was at Uptown Comic-Con. It was me, Dave. We were in the backstage in the loading dock area.

It was me, Dave me, Dave Tracy Morgan Mike Epps, at that time Tracy Morgan for whatever reason, they was beefing with each other beef go way back, just like Tracy Morgan and Mike Epps they were beefing with each other, right, to the point they was getting ready, we were back here in this loading dock

and they was getting ready to fight interesting enough, Dave was there and Dave was getting ready to go at it, and Dave got between both of them. And he said, yo, don't fight right here. And it happened to be a TV back at the stage, right? And he pointed to the TV. He said, this is where y'all need to fight.

Get a TV show. Fight with your success. That's why I could go back and forth with this with him, but I'm not going to do that. I'm going to continue to walk my walk. I'm going to continue to do what I do. And I realize sometimes you got to let other people fight your battles.

I don't. The fans have spoken. The fans have said what it is. My special is a good special. No, it's a great special. You know what I'm saying? Alright. It's a great special. It's a great special a great special it's a great special when i say in a sense of what i wanted to do comedy is subjective to whatever style you like but i tell

everybody i even told all my people did i work what i said people going to be outrageous however they want i said but what you can't deny is that the special feels good yeah people are watching it have you seen any change in like i know it only been a week, but have you seen any change in you, your career since this came out? I feel like the thing that was really in my favor that I had momentum before this special came out. I started seeing my ticket sales. This is just from the grinding. I started seeing that. Even my manager, this is like a two-year process. And everybody was like, when a special come out, I said, can we just say my special's never coming out?

Right? I said, let's just work, like, say it's never going to come out. Because it's easy to work, and now we got a tool to work with. Let's just keep on our path of it's never going to come out. Right? But what I do know is it's only been like two weeks or a week since I was out. When I did a couple of shows.

Here's another thing about the grind and the mud the day that my special came out next day i was charted to right following day for people talking about he couldn't handle certain rooms the next day i did ti room in atlanta oh yeah and that room is a room that would destroy you they weren't even thinking about comedy they was ready to rap and everything. Winning that joint. You know them clubs where you can get a margarita machine. Fuck you, baby.

Funny. And all that. And for me, maybe I'm weird. I could have been like, oh, I'm too good for this. It took me back to when I was doing comedy the first two years. When every comic was going up there, they was bombing and whatever. We're proud of you, Dono. We're proud of you. I don't know what the fuck you in here talking about right now. But we're proud of you, Donnell. We're proud of you.

I don't know what the fuck you're in here talking about right now, but we're proud of you, and we got you a gift basket. We got Donnell a nice gift basket, and we're so proud of him and his new special, his new Netflix special, A New Day. We got you, because I know you like to cook, and I know you like to smoke. That's true.

So we got you some things. So when I went back to this ghetto room, right? Yeah, because it took you back two years. Your first two years. But you know what? I will say, this is my favorite. Which one? This green one right here.

See? We got him. Boom. Right. You got to tell people what it is. I'm going to tell them. We have him some mild green pepper Tabasco sauce. Okay.

Mild and zesty. Okay. All right. What else you got there? No, you take the zesty part. I take the mild part. We have the sweet baby Ray's gourmet sauce. Mild and zesty. You take the zesty part, I take the mild part. We have the sweet baby Ray's gourmet sauce. Mild. Buffalo wing sauce. Okay, we have

the Taco Bell mild sauce for you. These are all my favorites. We have Kinder's barbecue sauce. Honey hot, mild. Okay, we have the Ortega mild original taco sauce. This is good too. We have the Peggy's Mild Original Taco Sauce. This is good, too. We have the Peggy's Marinade Wing Dip, straight from

Pennsylvania. That's where you got into the fight at. This is mild as well. And we have a lot of black and mild cigars, because I know you like to smoke. Okay, Donnell? Anything else? That's it. Alright. I wanted to give some gifts,

but if somebody go to the bathroom and give me a wash rag for somebody's career that's washed up. Do you got to be ahead and show the body wash? Do you have some? Do we have anything that represents washed? Are you going to use these products? There's some good stuff in there. We put some thought into that, Donnell.

You thought this was going to be a hate gift, but I love it. It's not. I was not. That's not a hate gift. I know what you like. I like that. That was very good. It's thoughtful.

Very good. You like to cook. You're always cooking in Ohio. Right. That's a great stuff. Boom. What was the last thing I was saying before I was interrupted with that? You were saying it took you back to your first two years.

When I went back, after doing the Netflix thing, and I went back to where I started in the gutter. I did that show and I felt accomplished with it. I was like, you can say whatever you want, but I could still go in there. And what I'll do is I don't have a beef. But I will say the thing what I was saying earlier, you could talk to me. You could be for me as a man. But this is the dirty, grimy part is when you start throwing a person's family in it and you've had an experience like this where you came out of your

normal self to defend your family who talked about your family stop it you know what it is if we're gonna talk about it talk about it now i really don't know i'm not joking now yeah well you know he mentioned your family the greatest comedian in the history of comedy says something about my family. Greatest comedian in the history. Oh, he's not. Oh, he's not that great. I was thinking about somebody else. You know, I had to like when I did what I did and I have a I don't have a problem saying I shouldn't have yelled out.

I don't have a problem saying that, but it was just pent up. But you go on your platform and then you want to talk about me. That's cool. Your looks and everything. Then you want to bring my family involved. You want to involve my family. You want to post. And I know this stuff is Googleable but on your platform that's filled with hate you want to put a picture of my family. My baby mother and my son.

First off. Oh okay I remember that. That's different. You're right. That's very dirty. Yeah. Because now in a negative climate that your show is first off okay i remember that that's different you're right that's very dirty yeah because now in a negative climate that your show is people seeing that they got to be out in public you don't know how people going to react that's the problem and i was like i don't want to entertain this because it's too much good stuff going on but i have a problem keep it fair you want to fuck with me fuck with me believe that out of it have y'all spoke no i don't really have i don't really but then you have to understand something too this man doesn't respect his own family you Fuck with me. Fuck with me. Believe that out of it. Have y'all spoke? No, I don't really have enough. I don't really,

but then you have to understand something too. This man doesn't respect his own family. You know, you know, he says things like, you know, fuck his daughter, fuck his mom and shit like that. So I,

at some point it's like, there's no making up with a person like this. There is no trying to understand, to sit down like that type of person needs healing and therapy of his own. So that's why i said the prayer the thing is there is no reason to for me to do it i've already started with limited contact yeah always started with a mutual respect but if you lose respect for me i lose respect for you and even when i said what i said on stage not one time did i berate him not one time did i say

anything bad about his comedy not one time to say anything about his family not one time did I berate him? That one time did I say anything bad about his comedy? That one time did I say anything about his family? That one time did I say anything bad about him? I explained to what I am and I know that there's nobody going to believe that I'm a mild comic. There's nobody going to believe that I'm not. So you think, and here's another thing.

You know there's a lot of people that don't know what you're even talking about right now. That's what I'm saying. You know why you got this? I might want that shit, man. Fuck that gift. Go put that on your scorpion balls. I didn't know it was going to be a whole hour. It wasn't. We didn't. You have a great special called A New Day.

It's on Netflix right now. Make it a new day, Donnell. Here's the thing. Donnell, make it a new day. This conversation wasn't specific to one person. It was a conversation about this industry and how people move and like you said

it's a new day it's a new dawn it's a new life for me and I'm feeling good Netflix special is still charting on Netflix and I want to say I appreciate this time it was good to see you and congratulations It's still charting on Netflix. And I want to say I appreciate this time. We appreciate you, Donnell.

It was good to see you. It was very good to see you. And congratulations. Thank you. It's always good to see you, Donnell. You didn't care about me. It's always good to see you, Donnell. I want to say congratulations.

Thank you. That's crazy. I really appreciate you. Thank you. I really appreciate you and your husband. I support you. I want everybody to get along. You know what I'm saying?

I want you and Corey to make up. I want Corey and Jeff to get on the same page. Look, look. You can keep talking that question to him. But Corey, don't ever say nothing about Corey over Jeff to get on the same page. Look, you can keep talking that Corey shit to him. But Corey, don't ever say nothing about Corey over here to me. You already know. We ain't doing nothing. You know how I feel.

Well, Donnell, we appreciate you for joining us. Love you. Thank you. It's a new dawn. Donnell, make sure you check out his special. It's a new life for me. All right. It's the Breakfast Club.

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