The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Dr. Chuck Morris' New Way Of Working Out, Envy's Arm Muscle Growth, Jess' Core Strength + More
Episode Date: October 3, 2025Today on The Breakfast Club, Dr. Chuck Morris' New Way Of Working Out, Envy's Arm Muscle Growth, Jess' Core Strength. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omny...studio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hold on. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The breakfast club.
Do you all finish or y'all done? Right? Morning everybody. It's D.J. NV.
just hilarious. Charlamagne Nagar. We are the
breakfast club. La Rosa is here as
well. We got a special guest back in the building.
Yep. The CEO of Midtown Biohack.
Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Chuck Morris.
Yes. I'm glad you said Morris and not
Norris. This man be calling you Chuck Norris
all the time. I'm like, not the Black Walker,
Texas Ranger. Lord.
I think he's doing it on purpose.
Yeah, he does. He does. Especially on the weeks he made
at you. That's right. Yes.
So Dr. Chuck Morris has
a new way of working out
that, you know, he came up here.
I would say a couple of months ago and talked about his new way of working out.
Jess had been diving in and doing it.
So I dove in with Jess to do it as well.
I told you guys I wanted to see for myself what it did, what was it about, and results.
And I've been there, I would say probably about 10 weeks, 8 to 10 weeks.
I've been doing it, 8 to 10 weeks.
I was there.
I've been there every week except to when I went to Greece.
Lie again, lie because you are not always consistent like me.
So lie again.
Get on them, Jay.
I'm going to let the doctor talk about who's consistent.
who's not consistent.
You can be honest with me
because I'm like a neutral party
because I'll be coming.
Who comes the most?
Like how consistent have they been
and like what was your plan
for them in the beginning
and how much have they stuck to it?
To the mic, Doc.
Oh, I'm sorry, to the mic.
I'm going to say
they stuck to what I wanted them to do.
I could see throughout life
based on whatever they had
going on, the tour, whatever.
They disappeared for three days,
four days, but that's the model.
But they were always back.
The only time I didn't see them
was when it was a lot.
long stretch yeah like vacation or weddings yeah other than that they was like that got you
what is what is there so we're here for results but before you get to the results like what what did
you have them doing when they were there yeah well we we had them doing the morris method so that's
that's that's what we do is the morris method which basically we take a bunch of science and tech
stuff put together great recipe so they come in they do a warm up do a little they do a little brain
they do a little brain work
and get your stress levels down
get your body ready to act crazy
yeah don't leave nothing out
unless in their training
to get the infinity stones
they got to get the infinity stones after that
what do you let me
well before you start working out
we want you to calm down
so we want your brain to get fired up
we want your nervous system
just ease down so we do
little stuff to bring your body down
how does that work with them
because they're leaving here
from the breakfast club
and then coming over to you
so like it's high energy here
you talk about politics
negative stuff and good stuff like they're all over the place like how does that work we don't
leave it up to their personality so we use the technology so we put a band on the head and we put
a thing on their on their ear to have to make the vagus nerve so we do that to actually physically
scientifically bring their bodies down into hyper focus and then help me Jesus after that
absolutely so it like controls your stress level like we do that for 10 minutes and then
we start the workout and then we do recovery now
I don't know what evolution he's in, but I'm in the second evolution.
Okay.
So you're doing better mentally.
Doing better mentally.
I think that might be the third or fourth evolution.
Okay.
What they're talking about is the program is not random.
So we have evolutions.
And based on your consistency, the time, your strength, all of that,
you evolve into each evolution.
And every time you get a graduation to the new evolution, the game changes.
So you thought you knew what it was.
And it becomes way more intense.
Well, in theory, some people feel like it,
comes more intense
but some people
not on the same evolution
do you get to know
like what their main stressors are
individually
in the
so they tell us what's going on with them
okay got right
and we keep that locked in the box
and we go to
you know go to our grade with that
but then we use our system
to understand what's going on
with their body
so we can see the stressors in their body
and then how that
really kind of like works out
into their program itself
so yeah because a lot
a lot of people don't understand
right like when you have in pain
somewhere, and this is what I learned from Dr. Morris
and Coach Warren, man. Like, when you had pain
somewhere, a lot of it is
mental. You're more than likely
stressed out about something, which
heightens the pain. It ain't like, you ain't
heard of nothing, but like, a lot of it is stress-related.
Right. Yeah. So what they
are, is to break it down, is
coach and doctor are big bullies, right?
Yeah. And what they do is they push you to...
They push it to the point
until you want to hit them back. And right when you're about
the swing, they stop. That's a
You're really what it is.
So the workout is you're not necessarily in competition.
Well, I'm going to competition with everybody in there.
But besides myself, you're in competition with yourself.
So you want to be better and stronger than the week before.
And they push you to that place, right?
So if you imagine, I tell everybody it's like this.
It's not bad on your joints.
So it's not like when you go to the gym.
Like when I go to the gym sometimes, my wrist hurt or my elbows hurt or my knees hurt from lifting.
You don't have that pain or that feeling.
and it's also like when you're working out
instead of you lifting let's say 200 pounds
it's like 500 pounds coming at you
so it makes you actually stronger
but with anything else you can go to the gym
all day long it's also
he's not a miracle doctor right he's not
a voodoo doctor that I can sprinkle a little thing
on my forehead and make me lose weight
but you still have to eat right you still have to
do the right thing that you do it like yesterday
just told me about drinking my Starbucks drink
right yes because then he's not supposed to drink that
He, no, listen, he consumes 590 calories every morning and Monday through Friday, between 6 and 7.
That's right when he wake up.
So not only is that going to damage his teeth, it's going to damage his stomach, his gut.
And he's trying to wear his shirt off.
And there's no way because he gets his stomach done.
He get his teeth done.
I don't get nothing.
But the doctor said one thing.
The doctor said, what hurt you the most is alcohol.
He says alcohol is the thing that hurt you the most.
What's the first thing that y'all just did before the doctor came in here?
Wait, wait.
You mean like having a little drinky drink?
I feel like
Because we're all snitching
I know
No no no no
He is lying doctor
Listen no no no no no
We're not gonna do that
We're not gonna do that
We're not gonna do that
Where's in that cup
That's not even light
That's brown
No you know the rules
You know the rules
But I would say the lifestyle
I mean so Jess is torn
A lot with comedy
And I know you don't
Really drink too much
Before you're gonna say
You're kind of like not at all
Yeah I've been to her
Yeah
Not at all
And in NBCJN he might have
A little sippy sip
You know they like to keep a moderate
But the lifestyles
that they live, it does include a lot of social drinking,
how does that affect
what, or how did that become
an obstacle that they had to get over in your
training? Because I don't even think of that
as a negative thing, I think. Well, look, he doesn't
tell us what
we can eat or drink.
He does have a program
where he does give us, he suggests
like diets, suggested diets that goes
along with the workout, which is how you get
to the second evolution quicker. You move up.
The third evolution, fourth evolution.
You just have to be disciplined enough.
To go by that and envy has not.
So for me, the goal is to assume the worst case scenario, right?
So we use the technology in our system to assume that they're never going to show up again,
even though I know that they are.
So every session we did with, we make the assumption that we're never going to see them again,
we got to give them the best results we prospering in a short period of time.
And yeah, drinking is not the healthiest thing in the world,
but on the whole list of things to do, we worry about that.
later yeah like we we actually decide what's most important pain weight loss strength and then we
hit it like that and even talking about the results I'm not a big before and after picture
person that's not like I'm not big on that because I think your after is really like how you live
in your body I think your after is how you feel about you with that being said last time I was here
some things were said a lot of things were said a lot of things was pointed at pointing at my man
right here oh his arms because I said I didn't realize he had results yeah
Yeah, see, that's why we never going to rise as a people.
It'll be some of us, but they're going to be all of us.
Let me see.
Because I really said that before you came in.
I'm like, oh, my God.
I don't know if I see results.
Yeah.
Okay, Doc.
Now, listen, he's showing me photos of envy with like a little muscle somewhere.
Yeah, a little muscle.
But here's the thing, in the photo where there's no muscle, he's not attempting to make a muscle.
And these other photos, he is attempting.
See, I knew you was going to say this.
So look at all three pictures, though.
I'm looking.
He's not, so this photo.
Oh, so he just happened.
Uh-huh.
This photo is him just like that without making a muscle.
That's photos is him chilling on his side with his arm.
Don't want to interview like he's doing right now.
And you see the, you see the guns popping out.
I'm not going to lie.
I do see.
I, and you know, I'm top hater of all haters when it comes to envy in the gym.
But no, I do see a difference.
I do see a difference in his arms for sure.
Oh, what you said?
Because at one point you was giving middle school girl.
Now you like, you arrive.
My arms are good now.
Now, I got to see, the problem is I'm a candy eater.
Right?
Yep.
Sugar.
And I'm a chocolate.
He missed her.
And so I eat horrible.
I'm the one that comes after the club, after I perform.
I want some wings.
That is me.
I can't stop it.
I try to stop it.
And then my kids, they come with their little snack.
And I feel like I got to taste their snack because they got a snack.
And then I messed up.
And I hate to say it, I'm a soda drinker.
Yeah.
Which is probably the biggest thing.
I like soda.
I don't drink alcohol like that.
Yeah.
I like soda.
I like that pop.
I like the pop in my mouth pores.
Yeah, you better pause dad.
Hard pause.
I like so.
It is what it is.
But yeah, so I'm, I would tell everybody this, right?
I'm not gonna lie.
I was very skeptical about Dr. Chuck Morris and his program of how it worked, right?
I liked it because I didn't have to go to the gym five or six days a week.
I go there one day awake for a workout and then I recover.
No, you'd be speaking another day in because you will lie and say, and tell everybody over one, but you really doubled up.
I usually go four days a week.
Because you know, you could do stomach.
You could do stomach.
Every other day, so I do stomach.
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Every other day, and I do recovery every other day because I wanted to take the maximum, right?
But the problem is, when it comes through it, I'm disciplined, right?
I go all the time, I see your husband all the time, Chris is there all the time, and you not so much.
But you kind of like Gia.
Like Gia went hard for like a week straight.
She sure did.
And then she ghosted.
She had the cutest little outfits too.
She probably had her outfits and Madison had the outfits all they all right now.
We're going to protect.
We're going to protect it.
We're going to be matching hats.
They come every day.
Okay, Dot.
She was in there.
She was in there.
She was in there.
She was in there.
And it's definitely not the same as Jess.
Don't do that.
So what about Jess's results?
Because I also told her she looked amazing before she like,
I remember you did the walk with Big Sexy.
Yes.
And people.
I was actually pregnant.
You were pregnant.
Then people were like, yo, the body.
And then she had Marley, you baby wear.
So she looked amazing before.
So what are justice results?
And that's a good question because we always figure out in our head,
we're like, hey, what do I look like?
What do I look like?
And we go for the wrong things when we say results.
The first thing is to get healthier and stronger.
And that's the key.
If I get healthy and stronger, then my body can contour
and switch it to make it look the way that I want to look.
So when we talk about the results,
Just across the board, her strength increased by 28% on everything she did across the board in 12 weeks, which was 12 workouts.
What does that mean?
I'm going to give it to you.
Envy did 31%.
So he had a 31% increase across the board in 12 weeks, which is 12 workouts.
In a regular model, and this is validated, you would have to work out three to four days a week for 45 minutes, for 14 to 16 weeks to increase by over 20% in strength.
They did it in 12 weeks
And it was only one day
Got you
Right
And then the recovery stuff
So the other part of what the results is
How does my body feel
Getting people out of pain
We got them out of pain in the knee
Out of pain in the ankle
That generally takes
The same amount of decrease in pain
That they experience in 12 weeks
Just coming in for the extra 30 minutes
One day a week
It takes on average
The regular person
16 weeks
45 minutes to 60 minutes a day
and PT. They got it done one day a week. So their results is stronger, less pain, and then
really kicking in on all the brain stuff and get the stress levels out and get the brain rock and rolling.
And yes, Jess definitely increased her sex. Because I think that's important too.
Period. Chris definitely gave me a chest bump. It was random. He just came in the chest bump. I didn't
know what it was for. He's like. Period. So it's real. And I have built muscle as well because that was
one thing after I did have the baby. Thank you, Lauren, for telling me I didn't look like I needed it.
But, like, girl, this, like, when you do this, I didn't realize that it moves a lot.
Even when you're skinny a little bit, it's like, oh, I was not the healthiest person, you know, even having a baby.
And even though you look like you're healthy and you look fit, that's not always the case.
And so that's what I do thank you for that.
Because even when I walked in here one day, remember Charleney was like, you're looking a little strong.
And I was like, he did not say I look like a damn bodybuilder.
He said, you're looking a little box.
You're looking at little chiseled.
Yeah, chiseled.
I like chiseled.
So, and I was like, thank you.
You know, just the midtown biohack.
You know, just the Morris Method.
I'm all here, you know, killing them.
Well, shout out to y'all.
We have a good time.
But also, like I said, it's, it's, I don't have the time to go to the gym five days a week.
Neither do.
And I don't have a time to stay in there for an hour and figure the machines out.
And everybody talk to me.
So I go there once a week for my workout.
I go for recovery a couple of days.
And I really enjoy it, right?
Because I talk shit to the, to the doctors and coach all day long.
No, he'd be cussing them out.
When he's on that machine, he cusses them out.
I do. I cuss anybody out.
That's his lovely.
Yeah, I cuss everybody out.
I just decided. That's his love.
Yesterday there was an Asian woman in there, right?
Yes.
And she was like, oh my gosh, I don't yell like that when I'm on a machine.
I said, then you ain't working.
He is a bit of a bully.
He's a bit of a bully.
So, but if you get a chance, how can people connect you and if they want to try it out, how can they follow what you do?
Well, they can go to Midtown Biohack.
We're right here on Madison Avenue.
We're closing the deal on Hamptons.
So we're going to have Midtown BioHack
and then we're going to have Midtown BioHack at the Hamptons.
Congratulations.
Appreciate that.
Appreciate that.
So right now, just go to the website.
We're going to a jersey.
We are.
Oh, sorry.
See, that's inside the box.
Sorry.
Sorry.
So they can go to the website,
Midtown BioHack.com or go to our IG,
Midtown BioHack.
Now, why would you advise the people to try
midtown biohack over going to a traditional gym why would you tell people to try that like
what what are the I would say the benefits of coming to you instead of a gym traditional gym
yeah I would say the benefits are pretty they're pretty relevant one you want to have
guaranteed results to make sure you get done what you need to get done we're going to treat you
as the whole person right so how does your brain mind and body work together and we're going to
get past black don't crack like how do we get you healthy for real how do we get you out of pain
for real and we're going to do it in a third of the time that's giving you your whole life back
so we literally make you younger in a shorter period of time you're going to guarantee to get
results and you can't get hurt right yeah it doesn't get much better than that yeah and that's
why we actually putting around little uh competition that y'all spark we're doing the morse method
12 week competition hey we're going to do a challenge we're going to do a challenge we're going
give away $3,500
$64-inch 4K TV
or a three-month
free membership.
So what they do is they sign up,
they join for 12 weeks,
they do the whole protocol,
the whole Morse method,
and as you're winning,
whoever has the most points,
throw it in a raffle,
and then you get your money back.
So you want to get fit
and you can win a prize.
Yes.
So for everybody out there,
I'm going to let you know,
it's not cheap.
It's not cheap.
No.
It's not cheap.
But I will say
every month when it comes out
my account,
I enjoy it.
And the reason I say I do enjoy it is because my workout, how long do I actually work out
on the machine?
Like, how long do I work out?
The actual machine is eight minutes.
I'm on the machine eight minutes.
And in that eight minutes, I do viz, tries, chest, back, legs, and what else?
That's pretty much it.
I do that in that eight minutes.
And it sounds like, yeah, right.
But I guarantee you, if you go there for one session and try that eight minutes, you'll
understand exactly what it is.
And it's not just one rep.
No, you're doing five, six reps with three second breaks or five second breaks,
and it's real shit.
Like, I thought it was some candy-coated stuff when you win.
When I tell you, this man was like, no, I ain't, you know, he got God in there cussing y'all out.
That's right.
And if you look at Doc, Doc, I don't put your age out there.
How old are you, but?
Forty-eight.
Doc is 48, and he looks amazing at 48, right?
And he does his own workout.
My biology age is 38.
Right.
My biological age is 38.
Yeah?
Yeah.
That I'm 28.
Now, if you look at coach in the back, you can show coach in the back.
Coach used to weigh.
How much did you used to weigh, coach?
440 pounds.
Coach used to weigh 440 pounds, and he lost all his weight by working out on his regimen
and coach is in great shape and probably the strongest person there.
And I go to battle with coach with stomachs, abs.
And we go back and forth all day long.
And I'll call coach in the middle of the day and be like, no, green buttons.
And if you go, you would understand exactly what I mean.
But what I do want to say is my favorite part of the workout right there because I'm there for an hour in total because I like to do recovery right after.
That's the best part for me, recovery, because I actually broke my ankle about 11 years ago.
And I shattered my tibia bone and my fibia bone, right?
And I had to have two surgeries to get my foot basically put back together to bones, like from the ankle on down.
And he's been doing this PT with me, physical therapy with me, that gives me.
much more movement than I've ever had
because my it healed wrong
because I jumped back in heels too quick
I was a little hole back in the day I was
you know just walking down the boat
okay just don't get cold sorry
back to this because I'm married now
and I ain't doing that
I'm reformed right right right
he has gotten me to move
my ankle a lot more
than it has ever moved because
I thought I was going to have to have many more surgeries
that's what the doctor has said
so I'm
first of all grateful and happy that I met you
because it's not just the workout.
It's the recovery, and it's also the therapy
that goes along with it.
So I appreciate that, Dr. Morris.
That's right.
Appreciate you guys.
And again, you can definitely check out Dr. Chuck Morris.
And again, you don't have to, you can go in between.
If you have lunch, you can go at your lunchtime.
There's a lot of people that come there and there's suits
and they work out in their suits.
You don't need workout clothes.
You might be a little funky after, but that's you.
Just get a little spray deodorant.
But you can definitely go do it.
And as far as physical therapy, I got to say one last thing.
I was the same as just not with the ankle.
My knee was effed up.
right um i was jumping on the jumpy with the kids the machine hit me and effed my knee up
it was hard to walk and the one good thing about this and uh it probably won't stay like this
but since they have a small staff they know everything about you yeah so doctor knows when i'm
going on tour when i'm going here the first thing he said well grease is a lot of walking how you
knee i let's do let's do therapy on your grease as soon as you get back to get my knee back
and that's what i like i like the fact that they know yeah every individual there's life
If they know when somebody goes there and goes on vacation,
it needs a little bit of this and a little bit of that,
they know your body just as well as you do,
so they're able to help you recover.
And it's not just black people.
It's black people, white people, as Asian.
You know, it's bad people.
Rich people, poor people, everybody.
Yeah, yeah, so that's nice.
I appreciate you, Doc.
Coach, thank you so much.
Pleasure.
Appreciate you guys.
And last thing, I just want to tell you this last thing.
You guys are four blocks away from us, right?
So the first time I went,
I went with Jess and Jess called the Uber
because I thought you were far away.
Right?
So Jess got the Uber there so I got the Uber back
and the Uber was $80. $80 to a blocks?
Yo, it's four blocks.
Was it raining?
No, I said, Jess, why don't we just freaking walk?
You want to spend $80 a day?
Jess used to spend $80 a day to go to four blocks.
Jess is rich.
You know what I do every day?
I walk to that motherfucker.
That's my pre.
Do you know why?
Because now I work at the breakfast club
and I ain't trying to get punched
in the back of the head.
You're talking about, hey, Jess, you want to do a drop?
No.
So I Uber.
All right, because I ain't trying to get yet, you know, so, but I have started walking because
$80 is a lot.
And I'm like, you know what, I could actually, this is actually good for cardio.
The warm up.
So, yeah, it's just the warm up, you know, so I started walking.
And just used to do Uber Black.
So I was like, I tried to say, all right, so Jess did Uber Black Day.
I'll do Uber Black Day.
I'm like, what?
I would have Uber X.
We could have got 10 people in that car for four blocks.
It's so cheap.
He acted like he would have
He went and got an Uber package pickup
Put me in the truck
I'll get there
I don't think I love about you
You're gonna hold on to your money in you
Jesus Christ
Dr. Chuck Norris
It's the breakfast club of the
Not Norris
I said Morris
You said Norris
Oh my bad
Morris is the breakfast
Cloak morning
Oh no
Every day I wake up
Wake your ass up
The Breakfast Club
You don't finish
Or y'all done
Ugh
Come on
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