The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Dr. Chuck Morris Talks ‘Midtown Biohack,’ Redefining Training, Wellness, Recovery +More

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

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Jess lied to me. Jess told me Chuck Norris was coming. I did not, Chuck. I was ready to get my kung fu on, my taekwondo and all that. I said Chuck Morris, Dr. Chuck Morris. Welcome Dr. Chuck Morris. Hey, how you doing, Dr. Chuck Morris. Welcome Dr. Chuck Morris. How you doing Dr. Chuck Morris? And we can still come through.

Give you some time to stretch, but we can still come through if that makes it better. That's right. Now Dr. Chuck Morris, he's from Philly, he has the first ever fitness coach of Philadelphia. He wrote a book called Stress the Human Superpower, the Miseducation of Stress. And just behind the scenes he's telling us that you got a new machine that makes work out. You wrote a book called Stress the Human Superpower the Miseducation of Stress and Just behind the scenes was telling us that you got a new machine that makes workout I only got to go to the gym one day, but it's like the workout of five days He said that's all we need to know is you got a machine one day we machines one day week 20 minutes for the last eight years One day week

Is downstairs Bring it up. How much is this machine He's the machine you got it with you. It's downstairs. Bring it up. How much is this machine? Oh, the machine. It is about 58 grand. What is it? What is it? Break it down. So in essence, we can hold more weight than we can pick up.

Like if I'm taking my groceries in, you can put more on me than I can actually pick up, right as human beings. So the machine gives you the maximum thing that you can handle more on me than I can actually pick up, right? As human beings. So the machine gives you the maximum thing that you can handle for time. So it's constantly changing based on what you're doing. So the more you fatigue, the more machine turns it up and turns it down.

So when you're done, you've done all you could possibly do. So there's no need for anything more. 20 minutes, a 20 minutes, a session? That's it. One day a week? One day a week. Is it healthy? It's extremely need for anything more. 20 minutes, 20 minutes a session. That's it. One day a week. One day a week. I've been doing it. It's extremely healthy because you first off, you get your whole week back. But do you get your cardio like because, you know, they say cardio does your hard. Is it like you're doing this?

I like what workout is. I'm not going to take you. OK. If I want to get real, real, real strong, I'm a power lifter. Yes. Heavyweight, maybe three reps. I want to get more like a bodybuilder, lighter weight, 12 reps. Everybody heard of that, right? I want to get shredded, lighter weight, maybe three reps. I want to get more like a bodybuilder, lighter weight, 12 reps. Everybody heard of that, right? I want to get shredded, lighter weight even 30 reps. Well, this machine does all three at the same time, because any one of those you do, you lose the other two.

There's no gravity. So there's no gravity. So there is no way for you to get injured. And it's giving you everything. So when you say, do I do cardio? What makes your heart bump? Your muscles move. If a car is trying to crush you,

your heart pump real fast. And that's basically what she doing. I call her the precious. So she's pushing on you for strong and it's heavy. You call her the precious. You call her the precious. Yes, she calls them the precious. She's like from the movie.

Yes. Yeah, she gonna take a little bit of your soul, but she won't give it back. She won't give it back. She won't give it back. So. Okay. She won't give it back. She won't give it back. So how did you hear about this product? Because it's a, I'm sure this is something, and you can lose weight with this?

Yeah. So every reason why we work out, we get that accomplished. Literally in one day. If you think about it right now, in every other part of your consumer world, everything, you can take a phone from that phone even though we get irritated, it's going to give you real-time data from a satellite. Your car can even park itself in parallel park.

But the gym right now looks like the same gym from 30 years ago. It's the only industry. So it's just science. We're literally using science and AI to get people stronger, faster, and then we have a whole other model that's for recovery and stress. Like it's a game changer. It's a game changer because most people don't work out because they say it's because they're not disciplined.

Time and discipline. And time. That's not really true. It's not really true. So what do you think the reason is? I think the reason is because we failed. Our space failed. All right. Okay. I'm so not to do this, but I'm gonna do it anyway. You name me one consumer experience that you can have. Just name one. Where you pay for it in the result, you don't get the result, and not only will you pay for it again, but you blame

yourself. Pick one. If you go to get your car brakes changed and the brakes don't work, it's a problem. Fitness and wellness is the only space where you can pay me for something, you don't get what you paid for. A lot of people say marriage. Oh my God. Not my marriage. I'm not married. I got a family. I'm married for 21 years. Love you say marriage. Oh my god. Not my marriage. I'm not. I'm not married for 21 years. Love you man. Not really joking. You must have had one. I mean that makes sense because you pay for a gym membership, you're there for a year and you don't get

the results and you still do it and you don't get the results and you still do it. That's like somebody's subscription based flat tummy tease and all that stuff. Yeah. Because I get to blame you. And then you really think, you know what you're right. I wasn't disciplined. I didn't stick to the eating plan or are they just using bad science? They don't know what they're doing. Just because everybody has a body, they don't mean everybody knows the science

of how to make the body better. To break down the machine. How does the machine work? I come to your gym and I'm like, Doc, Chuck Morris, with an M, I wanna gain weight. My son plays football for University of Miami, and he's diesel, I wanna match him. But I don't have the time to work out like him

or the discipline. And look at his arm. Got it. So different. Yes. I'm gonna look down, because I feel like that wasn't, that was a conversation earlier

that ain't got nothing to do with me. Go ahead. First thing we're gonna do, we're gonna take you through what we call the gray matter assessment. It's a system that we designed. The gray matter is the part of your brain, your nervous system that controls emotion, motor skill, all that.

We're gonna take you through a two hour assessment. So I gotta put something on my head or just? Yeah, it's gonna be a whole bunch of stuff. We're gonna measure your body, your movements, we're gonna do all that kind of stuff. Then we're gonna put together a playbook, which is your prescription of what needs to happen for you to get in the best shape of your life forever.

So include, literally make your heart, brain, and lungs five years younger. And then all you do is show up. So what is experience like? You show up, you wanna come in, you wanna sit down on the precious. She gonna talk good to you, you gonna talk good to her. Now you sit down on the precious,

is it a laying device or you stand up or is it water? So think of it, think of it. People are listening to me, I don't know what I'm curious. So think about you sitting into a cable machine. Have you ever been to the gym before, right? So I'm sitting in a big cable machine. And imagine that this cable machine doesn't have pins. Instead of pins, there's motors.

And instead of pins, there's a computer screen. And we change the computer screen to adjust for your range of motion. We're going to do all of that. And then we hit go. And all you do is push for your life. And the machine is adjusting and adapting to you. You feel like it's the worst thing you've ever done in your life. And the machine is adjusting and adapting to you. You feel like it's the worst thing you've ever done in your life.

It is constantly giving you all the pressure that you can possibly take from every range of motion for every movement. So chest press, leg press, curl, overhead press, everything. The computer, the machine, the AI, the pressures, is squeezing down on you safely. Because the moment you let go, it stops. In 20 minutes. 20 minutes.

Listen, Charlamagne, I'm sorry. I'm envy. I'm envy. I'm a handsome one. You told me you was going to get a higher seat for me. I'm going to tell you, but I'm not going to tell nobody. We have to say it's 20 minutes. Because if we don't, everybody's going to say, be like,

it really only takes 8 and 1 half. 8 and 1 half means one minute. So all half. Mm-hmm. Eight and a half. Eight and a half, yeah. Mm-hmm. So, all right. What are the risks? Now, what about if you wear a wig? Like, if you got a wig and your wig is not too nice,

how do they put the machine on your head? Oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no. The head on your head is just for the diagnostics. For the actual workout, it's just weights. Yeah, so if it's just for, just for diagnostics, that means nothing won't sweat on your face. Dr. Morris, she don't have a wig on right now. That is her hair Yeah, and if you can't tell his beard is dyed well today. So what I was trying to make sure of is that just for men

Paws. Yeah, but I definitely felt like it was some internal use you feel that yeah, you know what I'm saying? But there is no we're going but go ahead. How did you get into this? Like what what made you? Want to work out this way instead of going to the gym, you know, every day or three or four days out the week? How did you arrive here? Because I really like honestly want people to change their life.

I had to figure out what's getting in the way. Everybody said, I don't have time and I'm not getting results. And there's too much science out here. I didn't design the machine, I just grabbed it and then put together a whole bunch of other machines to make them work together. And what I saw was only 8% of the population has a fitness program. But it's a trillion dollar business.

Like that's crazy. But people said, I want to get results and I need time back. So I said, okay, well, how do we do that? Where do we find that? And that really drove us into this model of giving people their time back. So we wanted, I wanted people to say, I can do it for real and I'll win.

And that took us down Australia, Germany, Singapore. We want searching all over the world for how do we get people to actually guarantee their results and make it happen faster? And that was like the genesis of that. And then the whole stress thing, that became, I didn't see that coming. So like you mentioned the book, Stress and Human Superpower, what spawned that was, 13. So 13 years ago, anybody that knew me, I was one of the healthiest people that they know, hands down, period. And I thought I

had pink eye. So it was bothering me, it was irritating me, it was bothering me, it was irritating me. I go to my physician, he does a great, phenomenal eye exam. You're right, you do have pink eye. That was the entire eye exam. Gave me a script, I took the pills. Three days later, I'm balled up in a living room floor with blanks and stuff over my head in the most excruciating pain I have ever been in my life. It felt like somebody had spike gloves on, twisting down my nervous system.

They finally said, we gotta get you to the hospital. So they go to take me outside. First time I've been out the door in three days, the sunlight hit my eyelids and I hit the ground, almost peed on myself because of the pain. They take me to South Jersey eye surgeons. I didn't have pink eye. Didn't have pink eye.

He misdiagnosed me. I had ulcers on my eyes from chronic stress. Oh wow. Actual ulcers. And his medication that he gave me made him grow. So I'm the healthiest person that anybody knows that know me and I had been doing it for a long time and I didn't know that chronic stress

had created ulcers in my eyes. And that's when I said, okay, we gotta deal with the stress thing. Because this is crazy, it's killing people. And that's what I said, okay, we got to deal with the stress thing. Because this is crazy, it's killing people. And that's what drove us down the stress and how does the brain work, which became kind of like our calling card for everything that we do. So now everything that we do is recovery based on the nervous system. So the fitness thing is super cool because that gets people in the building like, hey,

okay. But then when they get there, they find out that, hey, listen, we're going to get you out of chronic pain and get you out of chronic stress. Yeah. And that's how we actually like change people's lives. How much is the procedure? So if somebody wants to come to the gym, is there a membership? Do they have to pay per like, how does it work? Is it affordable? It's not a procedure, Envy.

The workout program. Yeah. Okay, workout program. I was like, procedure. So yeah, they can get just a recovery thing cost about a hundred hundred twenty five bucks Just for a little recovery session and then if they want to actually have a membership it ranges from 650 to 1250 per month and they need it once a week once a week Now can you go more than once a week? Are you taking people more than once a week? We take you more than once a week because now you're once a week. Are you taking people more than once a week? We take people more than once a week because now your fitness-

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Line on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The rest of the week is all the recovery stuff. Got you. Psiotic pain, jaw pain, MS, like all of those, all those other recovery things. That's what you do the rest of the week. So my question to you is, so you do that. So you never lift weights? You only do the machine? Yeah, that's it. Now, yeah. For the last eight years.

And how long have you been doing it? So for eight years you haven't touched the weight, you just do the machine? I do a body weight on Sundays. I do a body weight program. That's it. And then what about diet? Like does diet have any effect on it at all? Diet does. Diet does have a big effect on it. That's why we do customized nutrition program AI all kind of stuff But what that being said, here's here's a catch. They'd be messing the diet thing up. That's why it's killing everybody Calories in calories out everybody heard that right cut your calories down lose weight If that were we'd be the fittest like people in the nation. It don't work. It's not true. It's literally not true

if you take an apple, an apple has five batteries in it, and I put it in my body, I don't get to dictate where those batteries go. The calories in, calories out is based on a closed loop perfect system, and that's not what the body is. So when we try to deal with diet, we say, hey, here's the perfect eating for you, for your heart, for your lungs, for everything. But don't start there. Just don't drink sugar. Like we pick little stuff. Because when you start training and you increase the muscle, you increase your bone density and your stress levels go down and the inflammation in your

body goes down, you can eat almost whatever you want. Okay. But don't tell Jess. Okay. I'm trying to get her to eat clean. Yes. But don't tell Jess. Okay. I'm trying to get her to eat clean. Yes. Yeah, the diet thing is-

That's just what she had this morning from- Oh my God. It was only half. Sorry, sorry, sorry. She could eat half if she working out. Half of a sausage, egg, and cheese croissant with a little bit of ketchup. A little bit of ketchup.

And they had ketchup. That's vegetables. It was half. She had a half. She was disrespectful in the morning. She got like crazy. Well, we told her she was just getting started though. It is chocolate pastries. She just getting started though. And raspberry, what?

Sugar every day. Every day. I don't drink coffee. Okay. That's my little. That's the hit. Sugar. Alright, well here we go.

Do y'all workout? Yes. Okay. What's your favorite part? None of it. Why do you workout? Because if not I'd probably be big as a house. I don't know if I'd be big as a house but they're healthy like I you know

I do the I walk on the treadmill for 30 45 minutes 12 and a half on three and a half Then I just do you know body part weights. Got you. Nothing crazy. I play basketball things like that But how much time a week does that take you? I used to do it a lot more but I got these two dogs and these two dogs are busting my ass but um I would do it like four times a week in the morning before work. How about you? No nothing not at all I go to sleep. Okay why not in your opinion? I just don't first of all I don't have a wig.

Oh my god. I just don't and also but so before I was here more I would do just like walk like going outside and walking or treadmill not because like weight loss or anything obviously I'm giving but because I just felt like I needed to be active like my body didn't feel like it was moving right but now I don't do anything because I'm doing some I'm working so much so that's like everybody in the country but your machine sounds like it doesn't sound real so it sounds scary it sounds too good to be true. Yeah, like it sounds like something that like- I can go there for 20 minutes and then you can be- Yeah, it sounds like something years from now

I'm gonna have like- Deezer? Something going on with myself because I'm done with it. I'm gonna start shaking, doing the shake like- Yo, listen, that's only because y'all don't know. It's just because you didn't know. You right. If you knew the signs, you might,

oh yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. But all right, I'm gonna make it easy. Okay. Make it easy. You, here we go, But all right, I'm gonna make it easy. Okay, make it easy you Here we go Money back guarantee

We've been doing that for 15 years. We've never had to give anybody money back money back guarantee. Here's the deal. Mm-hmm. You give me 60 minutes in the entire week 60 minutes for the whole week and if I don't change your life 60 minutes for the whole week. And if I don't change your life, you get all your money back. How long will it take? I love that question. How long does it take in the gym normally for you? I mean it could take weeks.

It could take weeks to start noticing. If you had to guess, what would you say? It depends how hard you go in the gym. So let's say you go normal. It depends what I want to do. For you when you're normal, when you're in your flow, how many weeks do you think it might take you to, for you, when you look at it, I see. Three weeks, three weeks straight.

Okay, three weeks straight. Two and a half weeks straight. All right, so most people will, anywhere from four to eight weeks, it takes them body to change. I can see my body changing in about two and a half, three weeks. I can see my body. You can see it, beautiful. Now, let's assume, just so you have a couple of off weeks, let's say it takes you six weeks.

Six weeks in my world is literally six days. It is literally six hours. What the hell you talking about? Come on, baby! That's... They just gotta try, right? Listen, you can't believe it. Everything you try to do is gonna tell you Listen, you can't believe it.

Everything you try to do is gonna tell you that it's wrong until you do it. I'm telling you, I told him he was bullshitting. I told him he was. And now how you feel? If I drive down to Philly. I'm telling you. It's not even in Philly. It's in the city.

No, we on Madison Avenue, baby. Midtown. Oh, it would take no more. 56th and Madison. We right here. Question for you. Where we go? let's go right now Question for you. I saw that you used to train like former athletes Olympic athletes and stuff like that

So are any of them in this program? Is there anybody that we can like point to that we know that you've worked with that you're okay with talking about I Cannot talk about any current athletes because it messes Messes with the money. Oh we get some of the older ones. I don't know how old you are. So I'm a Philly boy. So Trey Thomas with the Eagles, Marion Barber with Dallas,

Hank Poteet, New England champ, Carly Lloyd, Olympic gold medalist. All these are all legends. Anybody from Delaware? Bashawn Gary. Anybody from Delaware? She's from Delaware. Oh, Delaware. She don't know anybody from Delaware. We from Delaware? She's from Delaware. Oh, Delaware.

Oh, Delaware. She don't know anybody from Delaware. We got athletes out of Delaware. Joe Biden. Del St. got some. Busy Bone Highland. Joe Biden. Devin Steele that used to play.

They keep on talking about Joe Biden. Joe Biden and- Joe Biden. Right? We got people. No, I believe it. I believe it. I'm serious.

I'm gonna try you out. I'm gonna try you out. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna come tomorrow. I'm gonna tape it. I believe you. Because you were very sincere about it. I'm going to try you out. I'm going to try you out. Yeah. I'm going to come tomorrow.

I'm going to tape it. I'm serious. I'm going to come after the show. You and that guy give me my money back. If you can help Envy with his arms in the next month, I'll be there every day. Yeah, she got a problem with how low his arms are. That's a good challenge. Listen.

If he can come in here with a cuddly shirt before the summer is over, proudly. I'm proud of my goddess. Some If he can come in here with a cussleaf shirt before the summer is over, proudly. Cause he just, some days he just come in here. We gotta be having to be specific with what to ask you. So what's to ask in the summer? I want everything. I want everything. This is why we gon' get along. This is why we gon' get along.

You know what I want? I want, come on. Chris Brown. Wow! You know what I look like? Chris Brown? All right, now look. Now look.

I'ma tell you this right now. I'ma look just like this. I'ma tell you, I got a rule. What's that? You have to use your powers for good. I'm not responsible for what happened after the super sexy kick in. Look, I'm Larry.

So I might have seven kids, but I want to rip the shirt off like, nah! All right, now if you wanna rip the shirt off, we will have to mess with your eating. We do gotta mess with your food. Michael B. Jordan, that's what I need. Oh yeah, Michael B. Jordan. Michael B. Jordan! How long it gonna take me to get to Michael B. Jordan? Hold on what I need. Oh yeah, my name. Michael B. Jordan.

How long it take me to get to Michael B. Jordan? Hold on, hold on, hold on. How much that cost too? Hold on, let me do the math. Carry the one. Give me September. September. My birthday.

Ooh, when your birthday. So my birthday's September 3rd, Virgo season. Let's go, man. September 3rd. You come tomorrow. I'm ripping my shirt off. September. And it better be Michael B. Jordan.

Period. Woo! Okay, fuck it, Shailie, I'm ripping my shirt off and it better be Michael B. Jordan. Very it. Whoa, okay If it looks like Callum me and you fighting I want the Michael B. Jordan But I want the Michael B. Jordan, I'm a kid listen I want the my I'm a kid what you need But you really should do that, you know on the barbershop that the one two three you like you have one to Michael B Jordan to the John majors three to Chris Brown the fourth like so black I want the one you know what? Yeah, I'm serious. We won't get Lauren the Clarissa Shields. We want her no look no That's a lot of working out. She's very in shape. She is you keep I just want to be there real cute Like let me just come in every now and then

She is. I just want to be there real cute. Like, let me just come in every now and then. You keep looking at the old model. Huh? You keep looking at the old model. We doing something different. Oh, because I don't got to do as much. Yeah.

I got to get my hair braided to be coming in on all this. No, no, no. You don't do as much. You don't sweat. It won't be as much time. No, I ain't say that. You won't do as much. Yeah.

It just won't be as much time. Well, how can people get in touch with you and find out more about it? And where are you located? We are 575 Madison Avenue. Okay, that's between what what between 56 and 57 something that walk a walk. All right Yeah, you we right here and how bad will I be after the first day? Do I get sore like your real workouts? First off don't call it. Don't say that this ain't a real work this ain't a real workout. I gotta fit it, I gotta fit it right there. I'm sorry, we gotta look that way.

We gotta look that way. Yeah, we gotta look that way. The other part of it is we're gonna do the recovery right after the workout so you're not even gonna be sore. I ain't gonna tell you that because you already told me I'm lying. Recovery? Yeah, we're gonna do recovery right afterwards

so you're not even sore. Yeah. I'm serious, I'm coming tomorrow. Let me see. Let me see what this is about. I'm serious. All right, and then last question. Any negative long-term effects?

Like anything that, you know. No. Because I know people will want to know that All right, and then last question any negative long-term effects like it anything You know because I know people will want to know that because this this is some too good to be true shit. That's more listen Every reason why we work out. Mm-hmm. You're getting it done what I gotta wear Address I don't know if it's something that you gotta wear because it gotta help you. No, but I've been changing. I've been in Godspeed, like you going to the gym. I've been in there and I've seen people, like men that have on suits. I've seen workout clothes. I've seen, yes, I went in there with a skirt on one time

and I was like, oh, I forgot. So I had to go put on some leggings. But it ain't what you think. You don't gotta get your hair braided to go do it. You really don't. It's not gonna sweat out? Yeah, no, it's not. I promise you.

I've been in full face of makeup because I go right after work you really don't. So I'm gonna sweat out? No, it's not, I promise you. I be in there full face and makeup because I go right after work. What doc? Yeah, so I'm sorry, I answered your question, IIG, so it's DR Chuck PhD, or you can just, or Midtown Biohack. Okay. So Midtown Biohack is IIG,

and mine is DR Chuck PhD. I just want to tell you, it's the wildest, Lauren, that the person that found this out is the person that don't wanna go to the gym. Is a lazy mother effer that wants a smoking drink and Jess was the one that found this motherfucker. Jess was the one. Necessity, the mother of all invention, necessity.

See, God will use, he will use anybody. He will use, and he used me to bring you to them cause they needed, especially them arms. You gotta get them. You gotta get them working out. See, you won't talk while flying. I got you. I got a video I'll show you.

You don't wanna talk. I got a video for him too. Okay. You don't wanna talk. It's Dr. Chuck Morris. We appreciate CEO of Midtown Biohack and it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, I'll see you tomorrow.

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